From ledbat-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jan 16 17:45:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ledbat-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-ledbat-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCEB03A6A7E; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:45:24 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4032128C0F0 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:45:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.651 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.651 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.325, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PQWusmdFhbrz for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:45:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.237]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3E03A698E for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:45:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2017274rvf.49 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:45:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.162.9 with SMTP id k9mr1274079wfe.282.1232156706093; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:45:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:45:06 -0800 Message-ID: <6c82d1360901161745k38d599celeb17b089926a1768@mail.gmail.com> From: Stanislav Shalunov To: ledbat@ietf.org Subject: [ledbat] planning for San Francisco X-BeenThere: ledbat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list of the LEDBAT WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1708673826==" Sender: ledbat-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: ledbat-bounces@ietf.org --===============1708673826== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd150b6c63a510460a3d606 --000e0cd150b6c63a510460a3d606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Murari and I hope that the WG will have at least the following to discuss by San Francisco: * An updated version of the multiple connections draft from Reinaldo and Jana - a list of issues and action items should appear shortly on the list * A survey of existing approaches from Michael Welzl * An initial draft of the spec from me - this will follow what BitTorrent DNA does Now is a good time to prepare for SF so we have time to discuss the drafts. -- Stanislav Shalunov BitTorrent Inc shalunov@bittorrent.com personal: http://shlang.com --000e0cd150b6c63a510460a3d606 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Murari and I hope that the WG will have at least the following to discuss b= y San Francisco:

* An updated version of the multiple co= nnections draft from Reinaldo and Jana

  = ;- a list of issues and action items should appear shortly on the list

* A survey of existing approaches from Michael Welzl

* An initial draft of the spec from me
  - this will follow what BitTorrent DNA does

Now is a good time to prepare for SF so we have time to discuss = the drafts.

--
Stanislav Shalunov
BitTorrent Inc
shalunov@bittorr= ent.com

personal: http://shlang= .com
--000e0cd150b6c63a510460a3d606-- --===============1708673826== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ledbat mailing list ledbat@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ledbat --===============1708673826==-- From shalunov@bittorrent.com Fri Feb 13 17:25:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BDDF3A6A75 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:25:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.326 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.326 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.650, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CAPLFkyQk8Lf for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:25:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.232]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A82B3A6A46 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:25:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so831879rvb.49 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:25:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.191.5 with SMTP id o5mr1177633wff.326.1234574731434; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:25:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090214005006.BF34B3A6A38@core3.amsl.com> References: <20090214005006.BF34B3A6A38@core3.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:25:31 -0800 Message-ID: <6c82d1360902131725q13a379f6i3cda81ae80264ad6@mail.gmail.com> From: Stanislav Shalunov To: ledbat@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd28df250dcd00462d6d42c Subject: [ledbat] Fwd: LEDBAT - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 74 X-BeenThere: ledbat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list of the LEDBAT WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 01:25:29 -0000 --000e0cd28df250dcd00462d6d42c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Our session will be on Monday, March 23, 2009, at 1PM. Please send talk requests to Murari and me. Thanks, -- Stas ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: IETF Secretariat Date: Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 4:50 PM Subject: LEDBAT - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 74 To: muraris@microsoft.com Cc: shalunov@bittorrent.com, magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com, lars.eggert@nokia.com, session-request@ietf.org Dear Murari Sridhavan, The sessions that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the information of sessions that you have requested. LEDBAT Session 1 (2 hours) Monday, Afternoon Session I 1300-1500 Room Name: Breakout 4 ---------------------------------------------- Requested Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: ledbat Area Name: Transport Area Session Requester: Murari Sridhavan Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 hours Number of Attendees: 75 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: alto tcpm tsvarea tsvwg Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- -- Stanislav Shalunov BitTorrent Inc shalunov@bittorrent.com personal: http://shlang.com --000e0cd28df250dcd00462d6d42c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Our session will be on Monday, March 23, 2009, at 1PM.

P= lease send talk requests to Murari and me.

Thanks,=  -- Stas

---------- Forwarded messa= ge ----------
From: IETF Secretariat = <agenda@ietf.org>
Da= te: Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Subject: LEDBAT - Requested session has= been scheduled for IETF 74
To: muraris@microsoft.com
C= c: shalunov@bittorrent.com, = magnus.westerlund@ericsso= n.com, lars.eggert@nokia.com, session-request@ietf.org


Dear Murari Sridhavan,

The sessions that you have requested have been scheduled.
Below is the scheduled session information followed by
the information of sessions that you have requested.

LEDBAT Session 1 (2 hours)
Monday, Afternoon Session I 1300-1500
Room Name: Breakout 4
----------------------------------------------



Requested Information:


---------------------------------------------------------
Working Group Name: ledbat
Area Name: Transport Area
Session Requester: Murari Sridhavan

Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):  2 hours


Number of Attendees: 75
Conflicts to Avoid:
 First Priority:  alto tcpm tsvarea tsvwg

Special Requests:

---------------------------------------------------------





--
Stanislav Shalunov
BitTorrent Inc=
shalunov@bittorrent.com<= br>
personal: http://shlang.com
--000e0cd28df250dcd00462d6d42c-- From magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com Mon Feb 16 05:14:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61143A6A25 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 05:14:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PDfXL5zLMKzM for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 05:14:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se (mailgw4.ericsson.se [193.180.251.62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE5F3A689B for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 05:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 7133721010; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:14:42 +0100 (CET) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3e-aa8b8bb000001315-e6-499966c2f345 Received: from esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se (unknown [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 544FC204E6; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:14:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.175]) by esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:14:42 +0100 Received: from [147.214.183.107] ([147.214.183.107]) by esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:14:42 +0100 Message-ID: <499966C2.7050508@ericsson.com> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:14:42 +0100 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stanislav Shalunov References: <20090214005006.BF34B3A6A38@core3.amsl.com> <6c82d1360902131725q13a379f6i3cda81ae80264ad6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6c82d1360902131725q13a379f6i3cda81ae80264ad6@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Feb 2009 13:14:42.0089 (UTC) FILETIME=[87652190:01C99038] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: ledbat@ietf.org Subject: Re: [ledbat] Fwd: LEDBAT - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 74 X-BeenThere: ledbat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list of the LEDBAT WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:14:52 -0000 Stanislav Shalunov skrev: > Our session will be on Monday, March 23, 2009, at 1PM. > > Please send talk requests to Murari and me. > A warning, so far the agenda is only draft. And the session may still move, so please do not plan travel based on this. Cheers Magnus Westerlund IETF Transport Area Director & TSVWG Chair ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From lars.eggert@nokia.com Fri Feb 20 05:14:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7673A68BF for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:14:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.427 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.427 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.173, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rxnONJr-i6kj for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:14:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.fit.nokia.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:2060:40:1::123]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452D33A6853 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:2060:40:2:219:e3ff:fe06:dc74] ([IPv6:2001:2060:40:2:219:e3ff:fe06:dc74]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.fit.nokia.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n1KDEixM000793 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:14:44 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from lars.eggert@nokia.com) Message-Id: <0D1566D9-4F04-4049-BF5D-492A6133EA8F@nokia.com> From: Lars Eggert To: ledbat@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-28--869553749; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:14:43 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (mail.fit.nokia.com [IPv6:2001:2060:40:1::123]); Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:14:44 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9016/Fri Feb 20 06:03:22 2009 on fit.nokia.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: [ledbat] worried about the lack of activity X-BeenThere: ledbat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list of the LEDBAT WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:14:35 -0000 --Apple-Mail-28--869553749 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, LEDBAT WG, I'm starting to get seriously worried about the lack of activity since the last IETF. There hasn't been a single draft posted, and there hasn't even been any mailing list traffic this year that wasn't pleas from your chairs to start working. There was sufficiently strong interest during the BOF to charter you, and the first WG meeting was also promising. What I'm missing is any sort of continued activity. I do hope that you will have a productive meeting in SF that would indicate that there is life left in the effort. 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Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:26:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.43 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.43 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_AT=0.424, HOST_EQ_AT=0.745, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fIcW1SMiPIoB for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:26:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.uibk.ac.at (lmr1.uibk.ac.at [138.232.1.142]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E80D3A6950 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:26:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (lwm1.uibk.ac.at [138.232.1.160] Michael.Welzl@uibk.ac.at) by smtp.uibk.ac.at (8.13.8/8.13.8/F1) with ESMTP id n1KDQLDa003291; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:26:21 +0100 Received: from CPE-58-168-232-40.vic.bigpond.net.au (CPE-58-168-232-40.vic.bigpond.net.au [58.168.232.40]) by web-mail1.uibk.ac.at (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:26:21 +0100 Message-ID: <1235136381.499eaf7d6846b@web-mail1.uibk.ac.at> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:26:21 +0100 From: Michael Welzl To: Lars Eggert References: <0D1566D9-4F04-4049-BF5D-492A6133EA8F@nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <0D1566D9-4F04-4049-BF5D-492A6133EA8F@nokia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.8 X-Originating-IP: 58.168.232.40 X-Forwarded-For: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 at uibk.ac.at on 138.232.1.140 Cc: ledbat@ietf.org Subject: Re: [ledbat] worried about the lack of activity X-BeenThere: ledbat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list of the LEDBAT WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:26:13 -0000 FYI, I'm working on a draft. A survey of related work, to find a good starting point for the new mechanism that this group should develop (at least that's my understanding of the purpose of the document). I'll try hard to get it done next week. Cheers, Michael Zitat von Lars Eggert : > Hi, LEDBAT WG, > > I'm starting to get seriously worried about the lack of activity since > the last IETF. There hasn't been a single draft posted, and there > hasn't even been any mailing list traffic this year that wasn't pleas > from your chairs to start working. > > There was sufficiently strong interest during the BOF to charter you, > and the first WG meeting was also promising. What I'm missing is any > sort of continued activity. I do hope that you will have a productive > meeting in SF that would indicate that there is life left in the effort. > > > Lars From rpenno@juniper.net Fri Feb 20 09:25:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1DC3A6B77 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:25:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.453 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.453 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=3.146, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F5LqoE7pussk for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:25:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from exprod7og103.obsmtp.com (exprod7og103.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.159]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C363A6872 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:25:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob103.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKSZ7nenX7gEEv5LySRfzS0oVVzo0FF2Cj@postini.com; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:25:18 PST Received: from p-emfe01-sac.jnpr.net (66.129.254.72) by P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.340.0; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:23:16 -0800 Received: from p-emlb02-sac.jnpr.net ([66.129.254.47]) by p-emfe01-sac.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:23:16 -0800 Received: from antipi.jnpr.net ([10.10.2.34]) by p-emlb02-sac.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:23:16 -0800 Received: from proton.jnpr.net ([10.10.2.37]) by antipi.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:23:14 -0500 Received: from 172.23.1.92 ([172.23.1.92]) by proton.jnpr.net ([10.10.2.37]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:23:14 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.15.0.081119 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:23:15 -0800 From: Reinaldo Penno To: Lars Eggert , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [ledbat] worried about the lack of activity Thread-Index: AcmTf+nVgJeHKeYf9kCQidwylaMtJQ== In-Reply-To: <0D1566D9-4F04-4049-BF5D-492A6133EA8F@nokia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Feb 2009 17:23:14.0827 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9BB5DB0:01C9937F] Subject: Re: [ledbat] worried about the lack of activity X-BeenThere: ledbat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list of the LEDBAT WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:25:05 -0000 I'm working on updating multiple connections draft with Satish. It will be posted next week. Thanks, Reinaldo On 2/20/09 5:14 AM, "Lars Eggert" wrote: > Hi, LEDBAT WG, > > I'm starting to get seriously worried about the lack of activity since > the last IETF. There hasn't been a single draft posted, and there > hasn't even been any mailing list traffic this year that wasn't pleas > from your chairs to start working. > > There was sufficiently strong interest during the BOF to charter you, > and the first WG meeting was also promising. What I'm missing is any > sort of continued activity. I do hope that you will have a productive > meeting in SF that would indicate that there is life left in the effort. > > > Lars > _______________________________________________ > ledbat mailing list > ledbat@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ledbat From vkg@alcatel-lucent.com Thu Feb 26 15:42:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9344F3A6BBA; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:42:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.658 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.658 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.059, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id icDGWmc7DH8R; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ihemail2.lucent.com (ihemail2.lucent.com [135.245.0.35]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E47D3A6AD7; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:42:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from umail.lucent.com (h135-3-40-61.lucent.com [135.3.40.61]) by ihemail2.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id n1QNgK5Q007027 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:42:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from [135.185.236.17] (il0015vkg1.ih.lucent.com [135.185.236.17]) by umail.lucent.com (8.13.8/TPES) with ESMTP id n1QNgJZ6018369; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:42:19 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <49A728DB.5010800@alcatel-lucent.com> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:42:19 -0600 From: "Vijay K. Gurbani" Organization: Bell Labs Security Technology Research Group User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alto , ledbat@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.35 Cc: Cullen Jennings , leslie@thinkingcat.com Subject: [ledbat] draft-p2pi-cooper-workshop-report (Report from the IETF workshop on P2P Infrastructure, May 28, 2008) to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: ledbat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list of the LEDBAT WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:42:02 -0000 Folks: The two URLs below contain two important emails that appeared on the p2pi mailing list. Since most of the people from p2pi have migrated to the alto list or the ledbat list, I am re-posting to these lists. At issue is that draft-p2pi-cooper-workshop-report is being considered for publication as an Informational. Those subscribers to alto and ledbat that were present at the MIT/IETF P2Pi workshop in May 2008, please provide any comments as you see fit. The two URLs below explain the need to do so in more detail. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/p2pi/current/msg00908.html http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/p2pi/current/msg00911.html Thanks, -- Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent 1960 Lucent Lane, Rm. 9C-533, Naperville, Illinois 60566 (USA) Email: vkg@{alcatel-lucent.com,bell-labs.com,acm.org} Web: http://ect.bell-labs.com/who/vkg/ From michael.welzl@uibk.ac.at Thu Feb 26 16:20:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1009A3A6833 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:20:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.895 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.895 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_AU=0.377, HOST_EQ_AU=0.327] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GtEU1tWeDODa for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:20:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from swin.edu.au (gpo3.cc.swin.edu.au [136.186.1.223]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7363A6822 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:20:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [136.186.229.240] ([136.186.229.240]) by swin.edu.au (8.14.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n1R0KTtv010290 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:20:29 +1100 From: Michael Welzl To: ledbat@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: University of Innsbruck Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:20:29 +1100 Message-Id: <1235694030.3588.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 (2.8.3-2.fc6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [ledbat] First version of related work survey available X-BeenThere: ledbat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list of the LEDBAT WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:20:12 -0000 Hi all, I just submitted the first version of draft-ietf-ledbat-survey-00.txt, "A Survey of Lower-than-Best Effort Transport Protocols", which is intended to be a starting point for the new transport protocol that LEDBAT should develop. It's quite short and incomplete, but I think (hope) that it should already be quite useful as a starting point. To give you access until it's available from the usual draft sources, I put it here: http://www.welzl.at/research/publications/draft-ietf-ledbat-survey-00.txt Sadly I can't make it to SF to present it. However, this being just a survey, I don't see a big problem with someone else presenting it. Questions / discussions should probably not be about the draft itself but rather about the meaning of the text for LEDBAT - about the direction to take... Cheers, Michael From michael.welzl@uibk.ac.at Thu Feb 26 16:41:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AFB3A6A42 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:41:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.895 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.895 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_AU=0.377, HOST_EQ_AU=0.327] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sTFBRIEBIQFX for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:41:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from swin.edu.au (gpo3.cc.swin.edu.au [136.186.1.223]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470083A6A39 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:41:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [136.186.229.240] ([136.186.229.240]) by swin.edu.au (8.14.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n1R0fg7b015859 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:41:42 +1100 From: Michael Welzl To: ledbat@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <1235694030.3588.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1235694030.3588.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: University of Innsbruck Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:41:42 +1100 Message-Id: <1235695302.3588.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 (2.8.3-2.fc6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [ledbat] First version of related work survey available X-BeenThere: ledbat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list of the LEDBAT WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:41:23 -0000 Sorry, Just correcting what I said: > intended to be a starting point for the new transport protocol > that LEDBAT should develop. I know that it's not the plan to do a whole new protocol - just a congestion control algorithm. As a matter of fact, having written the survey and read the references that I included, one of the questions I'd ask is: could this algorithm even be run at the application level, by simply tuning the rwnd of transport protocols that we want to use? Actually I think so. Cheers, Michael From muraris@microsoft.com Thu Feb 26 23:59:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC5C3A690A for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:59:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tc6YidIz5eit for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:59:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.microsoft.com (smtp.microsoft.com [131.107.115.215]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86273A689C for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:59:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from tk5-expfs-c107.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (157.54.69.47) by TK5-EXGWY-E802.partners.extranet.microsoft.com (10.251.56.168) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.99.4; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:59:33 -0800 Received: from NA-EXMSG-C110.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.54.62.150]) by tk5-expfs-c107.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.54.69.47]) with mapi; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:59:33 -0800 From: Murari Sridharan To: Michael Welzl , "ledbat@ietf.org" Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:59:32 -0800 Thread-Topic: [ledbat] First version of related work survey available Thread-Index: AcmYdDCBJXe7AfGdR4W/6xdNlfawwAAPQW5Q Message-ID: References: <1235694030.3588.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1235695302.3588.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1235695302.3588.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [ledbat] First version of related work survey available X-BeenThere: ledbat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list of the LEDBAT WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 07:59:12 -0000 Yes very much so. In fact one of our solutiosn for low priority already doe= s something like this.=20 -----Original Message----- From: ledbat-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ledbat-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of= Michael Welzl Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:42 PM To: ledbat@ietf.org Subject: Re: [ledbat] First version of related work survey available Sorry, Just correcting what I said: > intended to be a starting point for the new transport protocol > that LEDBAT should develop. I know that it's not the plan to do a whole new protocol - just a congestion control algorithm. As a matter of fact, having written the survey and read the references that I included, one of the questions I'd ask is: could this algorithm even be run at the application level, by simply tuning the rwnd of transport protocols that we want to use? Actually I think so. Cheers, Michael _______________________________________________ ledbat mailing list ledbat@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ledbat From muraris@microsoft.com Fri Feb 27 00:03:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBE23A6974 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:03:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vyMZD-SiMoNG for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:03:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.microsoft.com (mail1.microsoft.com [131.107.115.212]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBBE13A68D2 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:03:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from tk5-exhub-c104.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (157.54.88.97) by TK5-EXGWY-E801.partners.extranet.microsoft.com (10.251.56.50) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.99.4; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:03:51 -0800 Received: from NA-EXMSG-C110.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.54.62.150]) by tk5-exhub-c104.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.54.88.97]) with mapi; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:03:51 -0800 From: Murari Sridharan To: Michael Welzl , "ledbat@ietf.org" Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:03:48 -0800 Thread-Topic: [ledbat] First version of related work survey available Thread-Index: AcmYcUVlAch30xLoRiixVwaFV8M4SgAQGmAw Message-ID: References: <1235694030.3588.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1235694030.3588.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [ledbat] First version of related work survey available X-BeenThere: ledbat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list of the LEDBAT WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:03:37 -0000 Thanks much for submitting this. I'll read through it and get back to you w= ith comments. We'll find somebody to present it on your behalf, yes we will= use this as a starting point for possible LEDBAT solutions.=20 -----Original Message----- From: ledbat-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ledbat-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of= Michael Welzl Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:20 PM To: ledbat@ietf.org Subject: [ledbat] First version of related work survey available Hi all, I just submitted the first version of draft-ietf-ledbat-survey-00.txt, "A Survey of Lower-than-Best Effort Transport Protocols", which is intended to be a starting point for the new transport protocol that LEDBAT should develop. It's quite short and incomplete, but I think (hope) that it should already be quite useful as a starting point. To give you access until it's available from the usual draft sources, I put it here: http://www.welzl.at/research/publications/draft-ietf-ledbat-survey-00.txt Sadly I can't make it to SF to present it. However, this being just a survey, I don't see a big problem with someone else presenting it. Questions / discussions should probably not be about the draft itself but rather about the meaning of the text for LEDBAT - about the direction to take... Cheers, Michael _______________________________________________ ledbat mailing list ledbat@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ledbat From enrico.marocco@telecomitalia.it Fri Feb 27 01:15:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3484528B56A for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:15:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.719 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.719 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PK5GISPT7Uez for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:15:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from GRFEDG701BA020.telecomitalia.it (grfedg701ba020.telecomitalia.it [156.54.233.200]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113643A6A67 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:15:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from GRFHUB701BA020.griffon.local (10.188.101.111) by GRFEDG701BA020.telecomitalia.it (10.188.45.100) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.336.0; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:16:10 +0100 Received: from [10.229.8.148] (10.229.8.148) by smtp.telecomitalia.it (10.188.101.114) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.336.0; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:16:07 +0100 Message-ID: <49A7AF5D.4080703@telecomitalia.it> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:16:13 +0100 From: Enrico Marocco User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Welzl References: <1235694030.3588.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1235694030.3588.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020704030400090208020309" Cc: "ledbat@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [ledbat] First version of related work survey available X-BeenThere: ledbat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list of the LEDBAT WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:15:49 -0000 --------------ms020704030400090208020309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael Welzl wrote: > I just submitted the first version of draft-ietf-ledbat-survey-00.txt, draft-ietf-ledbat? I don't recall neither can find traces of any discussions about adopting such a draft as WG item. 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