From rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Mon May 4 16:44:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lemonade@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lemonade@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFAE028C1B0; Mon, 4 May 2009 16:44:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -16.915 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-16.915 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.084, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_93=0.6, USER_IN_DEF_WHITELIST=-15] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cEN1aF4aPuJX; Mon, 4 May 2009 16:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bosco.isi.edu (bosco.isi.edu [128.9.168.207]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B4828C1A5; Mon, 4 May 2009 16:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bosco.isi.edu (Postfix, from userid 70) id E37B829B29C; Mon, 4 May 2009 16:42:45 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20090504234245.E37B829B29C@bosco.isi.edu> Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:42:45 -0700 (PDT) Cc: lemonade@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [lemonade] RFC 5524 on Extended URLFETCH for Binary and Converted Parts X-BeenThere: lemonade@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enhancements to Internet email to support diverse service enivronments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 23:44:30 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5524 Title: Extended URLFETCH for Binary and Converted Parts Author: D. Cridland Status: Standards Track Date: May 2009 Mailbox: dave.cridland@isode.com Pages: 9 Characters: 15915 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-cridland-urlfetch-binary-03.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5524.txt The URLFETCH command defined as part of URLAUTH provides a mechanism for third parties to gain access to data held within messages in a user's private store; however, this data is sent verbatim, which is not suitable for a number of applications. This memo specifies a method for obtaining data in forms suitable for non-mail applications. [STANDARDS TRACK] This document is a product of the Enhancements to Internet email to support diverse service environments Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard Protocol. 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The RFC Editor Team USC/Information Sciences Institute From alexey.melnikov@isode.com Wed May 6 05:30:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lemonade@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lemonade@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195623A6F44; Wed, 6 May 2009 05:30:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.57 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.57 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.029, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xy2c7bDzrUhq; Wed, 6 May 2009 05:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rufus.isode.com (rufus.isode.com [62.3.217.251]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957DA3A682F; Wed, 6 May 2009 05:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.2.193] (shiny.isode.com [62.3.217.250]) by rufus.isode.com (submission channel) via TCP with ESMTPA id ; Wed, 6 May 2009 13:30:00 +0100 Message-ID: <4A0182BF.2090504@isode.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 13:29:51 +0100 From: Alexey Melnikov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: Lisa Dusseault References: <20090505213712.4CD4E3A6C43@core3.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20090505213712.4CD4E3A6C43@core3.amsl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lemonade@ietf.org, iesg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lemonade] COMMENT: draft-ncook-urlauth-accessid X-BeenThere: lemonade@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enhancements to Internet email to support diverse service enivronments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 12:30:38 -0000 Hi Lisa, Lisa Dusseault wrote: >Comment: >The URLAUTH RFC says: > "The URLAUTH component overrides the second purpose of the enc-user in > the IMAP URI and by default permits the URI to be resolved by any > user permitted by the identifier." > >The 'stream' value doesn't seem to fit this definition, because 'stream' doesn't identify a user or a class of users. > I think I disagree. The 'stream' access identifier effectively defines a group of services that can resolve such URIs. >Since this draft is updating RFC5092, it would be appropriate (though a little obsessive) to update the definition given above with a new one. > >Since this has been discussed in LEMONADE where URLAUTH mostly originated, I'm making this a COMMENT and don't object to the approach taken. > > From wwwrun@core3.amsl.com Tue May 5 14:37:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lemonade@ietf.org Delivered-To: lemonade@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id 4CD4E3A6C43; Tue, 5 May 2009 14:37:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Lisa Dusseault To: iesg@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090505213712.4CD4E3A6C43@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 14:37:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 06 May 2009 08:03:07 -0700 Cc: lemonade@ietf.org, draft-ncook-urlauth-accessid@tools.ietf.org Subject: [lemonade] COMMENT: draft-ncook-urlauth-accessid X-BeenThere: lemonade@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enhancements to Internet email to support diverse service enivronments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 21:37:12 -0000 Comment: The URLAUTH RFC says: "The URLAUTH component overrides the second purpose of the enc-user in the IMAP URI and by default permits the URI to be resolved by any user permitted by the identifier." The 'stream' value doesn't seem to fit this definition, because 'stream' doesn't identify a user or a class of users. Since this draft is updating RFC5092, it would be appropriate (though a little obsessive) to update the definition given above with a new one. Since this has been discussed in LEMONADE where URLAUTH mostly originated, I'm making this a COMMENT and don't object to the approach taken. From neil.cook@noware.co.uk Thu May 7 04:42:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lemonade@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lemonade@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305563A6A09 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 04:42:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IWsXikucMFG9 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 04:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncookx.randomflow.net (ncookx.randomflow.net [78.129.143.222]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321233A6BE8 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 04:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: ncookx.randomflow.net smtp.user=ncook; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kD8DV2uf36gA:10 a=TLoC2ga-t96bUJdboNQA:9 a=8Km5X3Wi6NMYX44iumIA:7 a=fMmmtIIwIr1uu5gGZAcgzWEVGcwA:4 X-Cloudmark-SWS: X-Cloudmark-SRS: 1 Received: from [88.255.100.67] ([88.255.100.67:56983] helo=[10.5.23.208]) by ncookx.randomflow.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.29 r(23143M)) with ESMTPA id 40/00-03695-003C20A4; Thu, 07 May 2009 07:16:16 -0400 Message-Id: <5F5AA790-C47A-483E-B205-E187E317CB12@noware.co.uk> From: Neil Cook To: Lisa Dusseault In-Reply-To: <20090505213712.4CD4E3A6C43@core3.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 14:43:52 +0300 References: <20090505213712.4CD4E3A6C43@core3.amsl.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: lemonade@ietf.org, draft-ncook-urlauth-accessid@tools.ietf.org, iesg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lemonade] COMMENT: draft-ncook-urlauth-accessid X-BeenThere: lemonade@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enhancements to Internet email to support diverse service enivronments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 11:42:31 -0000 Lisa, In fact 'stream' does identify a class of users - it indicates that use of this URL is limited to a userid authorized as an application entity for the 'stream' application. You can think of 'stream' as being analagous to the existing 'authuser' identifier, which indicates that use of this URL is limited to IMAP sessions that are logged in as an authorized user. In the case of 'authuser' the set of users is "all authenticated users", whereas for 'stream' the set of users is that configured on the IMAP server as being associated with the 'stream' application. Neil On 6 May 2009, at 00:37, Lisa Dusseault wrote: > Comment: > The URLAUTH RFC says: > "The URLAUTH component overrides the second purpose of the enc-user in > the IMAP URI and by default permits the URI to be resolved by any > user permitted by the identifier." > > The 'stream' value doesn't seem to fit this definition, because > 'stream' doesn't identify a user or a class of users. Since this > draft is updating RFC5092, it would be appropriate (though a little > obsessive) to update the definition given above with a new one. > > Since this has been discussed in LEMONADE where URLAUTH mostly > originated, I'm making this a COMMENT and don't object to the > approach taken. From root@core3.amsl.com Wed May 13 00:00:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lemonade@ietf.org Delivered-To: lemonade@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id D2A0E3A6E68; Wed, 13 May 2009 00:00:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090513070001.D2A0E3A6E68@core3.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 00:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: lemonade@ietf.org Subject: [lemonade] I-D Action:draft-ietf-lemonade-streaming-11.txt X-BeenThere: lemonade@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enhancements to Internet email to support diverse service enivronments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:00:01 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Enhancements to Internet email to Support Diverse Service Environments Working Group of the IETF. Title : Streaming Internet Messaging Attachments Author(s) : N. Cook Filename : draft-ietf-lemonade-streaming-11.txt Pages : 34 Date : 2009-05-12 This document describes a method for streaming multimedia attachments received by a resource constrained and/or mobile device from an IMAP server. It allows such clients, which often have limits in storage space and bandwidth, to play video and audio e-mail content. The document describes a profile for making use of the URLAUTH authorized IMAP URLs (RFC 5092), the Network Announcement SIP Media Service (RFC 4240), and the Media Server Control Markup Language (RFC 5022). A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-lemonade-streaming-11.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-lemonade-streaming-11.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2009-05-12235732.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From root@core3.amsl.com Thu May 14 08:00:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lemonade@ietf.org Delivered-To: lemonade@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 10F6628C274; Thu, 14 May 2009 08:00:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090514150002.10F6628C274@core3.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Cc: lemonade@ietf.org Subject: [lemonade] I-D Action:draft-ietf-lemonade-streaming-12.txt X-BeenThere: lemonade@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enhancements to Internet email to support diverse service enivronments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:00:02 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Enhancements to Internet email to Support Diverse Service Environments Working Group of the IETF. Title : Streaming Internet Messaging Attachments Author(s) : N. Cook Filename : draft-ietf-lemonade-streaming-12.txt Pages : 34 Date : 2009-05-14 This document describes a method for streaming multimedia attachments received by a resource constrained and/or mobile device from an IMAP server. It allows such clients, which often have limits in storage space and bandwidth, to play video and audio e-mail content. The document describes a profile for making use of the URLAUTH authorized IMAP URLs (RFC 5092), the Network Announcement SIP Media Service (RFC 4240), and the Media Server Control Markup Language (RFC 5022). A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-lemonade-streaming-12.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-lemonade-streaming-12.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2009-05-14075446.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From alexey.melnikov@isode.com Tue May 26 14:40:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lemonade@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: lemonade@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2D828C25F for ; Tue, 26 May 2009 14:40:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.571 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.571 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.028, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HERD7Gzukz9w for ; Tue, 26 May 2009 14:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rufus.isode.com (rufus.isode.com [62.3.217.251]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2C128C25E for ; Tue, 26 May 2009 14:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.2.117] (shiny.isode.com [62.3.217.250]) by rufus.isode.com (submission channel) via TCP with ESMTPA id ; Tue, 26 May 2009 22:42:13 +0100 Message-ID: <4A1C61F5.8020507@isode.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 22:41:09 +0100 From: Alexey Melnikov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: IMAP Mailing List , IMAP Extensions WG , Lemonade WG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050608070006070004080900" Subject: [lemonade] [Fwd: More information requested on publication status of draft-crocker-email-arch] X-BeenThere: lemonade@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enhancements to Internet email to support diverse service enivronments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 21:40:36 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050608070006070004080900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI. --------------050608070006070004080900 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="More information requested on publication status of draft-crocker-email-arch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="More information requested on publication status of draft-crocker-email-arch" Return-Path: Received: from rufus.isode.com ([62.3.217.251]) by canine (Isode M-Box/14.5a0) with LMTP; Tue, 26 May 2009 22:41:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from [172.16.2.117] (shiny.isode.com [62.3.217.250]) by rufus.isode.com (submission channel) via TCP with ESMTPA id ; Tue, 26 May 2009 22:41:19 +0100 Message-ID: <4A1C61C0.4090806@isode.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 22:40:16 +0100 From: Alexey Melnikov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: ietf-smtp@imc.org Subject: More information requested on publication status of draft-crocker-email-arch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There have been two Last Call notices sent to the IETF for: 'Internet Mail Architecture' as a Proposed Standard The IESG has received a concern about the intended publication status of this document and wishes to confirm the community's preferences. As the shepherding AD I would like to request more feedback on this topic. Please send your answers by the end of June 3rd. You can either reply to this message, send your response directly to iesg@ietf.org, or send it directly to me and Tony Hansen . Please indicate your preference for publishing the document as: 1. Proposed Standard, as queried in the two Last Call notices 2. Informational 3. Some other label 4. I have another opinion (please describe) Also please indicate your reason(s) for this choice. --------------050608070006070004080900--