Subject: Re: [lmap] FW: New Version Notification for draft-deng-lmap-collaboration-02.txt

From: Sørensen, Frode <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2014 10:09:39 +0000

Dear Lingli & Rachel & Shihui, dear all,

Thanks for an updated of the LMAP collaboration draft! Below you find a few comments of mine trying to clarify the distinction between regulator's and ISP's responsibilities. I hope you'll find these suggestions helpful. 

Frode

Section 1, last paragraph
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Suggested new wording:

This document discusses the motivation and use-cases for collaborative LMAP practices, where multiple autonomous measurement systems collaborate together to assist with enhancing QoE by ICPs, monitoring network performance to guide ISPs' network infrastructure planning, performing cross-boundary troubleshooting for SLA complaints from end consumers, as well as performing regulatory supervision by national regulators.

Section 3, first paragraph
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Suggested new wording:

End-to-end performance measurement and trouble shooting is important for solving end user's QoE issues, managing and optimizing the network of Internet Service Providers, improving service logic and application design for Internet Content Providers, examining the status of and guiding future regulation for regulators.

Section 3, paragraph starting with "On one hand, for the regulator,"
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Suggest changing  "is expected to"  to  "may"

The paragraph will then look like this:

On one hand, for the regulator, in order to stimulate local network 
development, it is necessary to have a clear picture of local ISPs'
peering performance for interworking points as well as their own
network construction. Considering the prohibitive cost of a unified
third-party deployment for LMAP MAs at various interworking points
for a large geographic area, it may be more practical to
make use of ISPs' autonomous LMAP systems for collaboration.

Section 4.2.1, first paragraph + next sentence
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Suggested modified title: The current situation of its own region 

Suggested new wording:

Understanding the current situation of its own region is necessary for a regulator to form guiding policies for stimulating further growth in high-speed network development. In order to get a clear picture of a large geographic area, it may be prohibitive for the regulator to deploy a dedicated LMAP system on its own, while it's necessary to deploy a large number of MAs. For a small region, the deployment cost is acceptable, but for a large region, the cost is very expensive and may become unacceptable. The regulator may achieve this goal by means of the ISP's LMAP and the third-party LMAPs. 

Therefore, it is preferable that multiple organizations would...

Section 4.2.2, first paragraph
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Suggested new wording:

Low performance of peering links between different ISPs not only has great impact on ICP services, but also on a local access ISPs relying on other transit ISPs for internet connectivity. For example, a mobile
operator lacking access to an internet resource will have to pay interconnections to other operators. The Regulator may formulate policies to promote information exchange between ISPs and investigate the user QoE problem by understanding the interconnection performance. For the same reason, an ISP/ICP can also benefit from a more clear understanding of the performance of the Interconnection.

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Kopi: 'Huangyihong (Rachel)'; 'duan'
Emne: [lmap] FW: New Version Notification for draft-deng-lmap-collaboration-02.txt

Hi all,

A new revision on the collaborative LMAP use-cases are uploaded.

> URL: 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-deng-lmap-collaboration-02.t
> xt
> Status:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-deng-lmap-collaboration/
> Htmlized:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-deng-lmap-collaboration-02
> Diff:
> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-deng-lmap-collaboration-02

In this version, a new use-case for collaboration between multiple Controllers within a single domain is added.
The requirements sections is restructured, after a list of basic requirements, potential ways of implementing collaborative LMAP by extending the current framework are briefly discussed.

Your review and comments would be highly appreciated.

Lingli&Rachel&Shihui

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:18 PM
> To: Rachel Huang; Deng Lingli; Shihui Duan; Shihui Duan; Lingli Deng; 
> Rachel Huang
> Subject: New Version Notification for 
> draft-deng-lmap-collaboration-02.txt
> 
> 
> A new version of I-D, draft-deng-lmap-collaboration-02.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Lingli Deng and posted to the IETF 
> repository.
> 
> Name:		draft-deng-lmap-collaboration
> Revision:	02
> Title:		Use-cases for Collaborative LMAP
> Document date:	2014-09-01
> Group:		Individual Submission
> Pages:		15
> URL:
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-deng-lmap-collaboration-02.t
> xt
> Status:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-deng-lmap-collaboration/
> Htmlized:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-deng-lmap-collaboration-02
> Diff:
> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-deng-lmap-collaboration-02
> 
> Abstract:
>    This document discusses the motivation and use-cases for
>    collaborative LMAP practices, where multiple autonomous measurement
>    systems collaborate together to help with QoE enhancement by ICPs,
>    network performance monitory to guide ISP/Regulator coordination
>    between autonomous network domains and/or regulatory policies and
>    cross-boundary troubleshooting for complaints from end consumers.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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