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I took a quick look at the diffs (11-13) and the document looks in much better shape! =C2=A0Thanks! =C2=A0I will take a deeper look when the W= G is done with it, but I don't anticipate as many comments. I have to confess I was a little bit worried about this part: > > I approached this document from the point of view of it defining a *new= * > > link-state protocol, one that borrows from existing work. =C2=A0I am lo= osely > > defining "protocol" here as a set of rules for what happens inside a > > specific AFI/SAFI that doesn't carry "traditional" BGP routes, similar = to > > BGP-LS, FlowSpec, etc. =C2=A0Specifically, I see BGP SPF as the sum of = the BGP > > base as transport + BGP-LS encodings + SPF-based route calculation. =C2= =A0... > > The authors don't really agree that this is a completely new link-state > protocol. We've added to clarify the relationship to both the BGP base > protocol and BGP-LS. However, your explanation about the relationship is clear and helps in better understanding the document. =C2=A0:-) This is for the Chairs/Shepherd: =C2=A0As Acee mentions, keep in mind that the document is back in the WG -- IOW, you should not be waiting for me. :-) =C2=A0It is important for the WG to review the updated document (a new WGLC will be required of course). =C2=A0There are several points that Acee calls out that need discussion in the WG (see below). =C2=A0Also, I need you to specifically ask for comments from idr and lsr (which could be done at the same time as the WGLC). Thanks!! Alvaro. > Thank you for your extensive review and comments. Now that the document > is back in the WG, we have couple things to discuss in the WG: > > 1. NLRI packing - Well it is almost implied, I think we need to > limit a BGP Update to a single NLRI and BGP-LS Attribute. > > 2. Initial synchronization - we need to discuss this in the draft > and potentially add an option to require this, such as the IS-IS > suppress adjacency option. I don't think we'd want to require > this as it would limit deployment. > > 3. NEXT_HOP requiremeent - We now say we are following RFC 4760. > However, we need to be sure we are consistent throughout. > > 4. Single session requirement for BGP-LS. Right now we don't > prevent this. ... > > The mail archive contains early requests to both idr/lsr for review, > > but no answers. :-( I would like both of those WGs to (again) be > > given the opportunity to comment -- we can do that as this document > > addresses some of my concerns. [I'm putting this note here so we > > don't forget.] > > It is better that LSR and IDR review the updated version as the changes a= re > significant. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, The author team together with AD have been working hard on this document an= d made significant enhancements to this document. The LSVR WG starts a working group last call for "draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-1= 3". Please send your comments to the LSVR list before Thursday June 3, 2021= . https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf/ This WGLC is cross-posted to IDR and LSR WG. All feedback and discussions s= hould happen on the LSVR WG mailer. Authors, please reply indicating if you're aware of any relevant IPR. All, Please advice if you are aware of an implementation or are aware of re= levant IPR. Brgds, Gunter & Victor LSVR WG co-chairs --_000_AM0PR07MB6386A703783EDAC3C4525C94E02A9AM0PR07MB6386eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
Hi All,
 
 
The author team together with AD hav=
e been working hard on this document and made significant enhancements to t=
his document.
 
 
The LSVR WG starts a working group last call for &q=
uot;draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-13". Please send your comment=
s to the LSVR list before Thursday =
June 3, 2021.
 
https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/doc/draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf/
 
 
This WGLC is cross-posted to IDR and=
 LSR WG. All feedback and discussions should happen on the LSVR WG mailer.<=
o:p>
 
 
Authors, please reply indicating if you're aware of=
 any relevant IPR. 
 
All, Please advice if you are aware =
of an implementation or are aware of relevant IPR.
 
 
Brgds,
Gunter & Victor
LSVR WG co-chairs

 

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