From owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org Fri Apr 11 04:18:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ltans-archive-ba2WohFa@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ltans-archive-ba2WohFa@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BDB3A6927 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:18:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.469 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.469 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M7+EN6nvfb6c for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f04:392::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9683A6952 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m3BB7uqg073687 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:07:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id m3BB7ubo073684; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:07:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from scygmxsecs1.cygnacom.com (scygmxsecs1.cygnacom.com [65.242.48.253]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m3BB7rOc073674 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:07:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from CWallace@cygnacom.com) Received: (qmail 28866 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2008 10:59:05 -0000 Received: from CWallace@cygnacom.com by scygmxsecs1.cygnacom.com with EntrustECS-Server-7.4;11 Apr 2008 10:59:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scygexch1.cygnacom.com) (10.60.50.8) by scygmxsecs1.cygnacom.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2008 10:59:04 -0000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: Meeting minutes Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:07:50 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Meeting minutes Thread-Index: AcibxEg4bOYu/Z5BSJuXnF5Ncm8iBA== From: "Carl Wallace" To: Sender: owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: I just submitted the meeting minutes from the WG meeting last month (https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/71/materials.html). Sorry for the delay. The meeting was very brief. There are four primary activities remaining now, most of which are nearing completion: - New version of DSSC that addresses structural issue raised in both Vancouver and Philadelphia. Once this issue is addressed, WG last call will begin. - New version of XMLERS, followed shortly by WG last call - New version of LTAP, followed shortly by WG last call. This version will be back on standards track. - A new version of Validate will be prepared as the above move forward. This will likely be the final product of this working group. From owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org Fri Apr 11 07:40:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ltans-archive-ba2WohFa@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ltans-archive-ba2WohFa@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D883A6EAB for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:40:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.058 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.058 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.319, BAYES_20=-0.74, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wmRP2lw98x2A for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f04:392::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4125928C164 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m3BEUVul094394 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:30:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id m3BEUVfi094393; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:30:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m3BEUUAL094385 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:30:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from tglassey@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=LhYIOoSql+t1/sFbHmtACm7WO+m7U/dj5NRuzRIP4DlEqeZwqUKjmYVp7Ug9h010; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.23.176.93] (helo=tsg1) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JkKGr-0007Fd-P2 for ietf-ltans@imc.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:30:30 -0400 Message-ID: <002c01c89be0$c3afd840$6501a8c0@tsg1> From: "TS Glassey" To: Subject: Use of "Legal Terms of Art" in Technical Standards. Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:31:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-ELNK-Trace: 01b7a7e171bdf5911aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7994dfe41534e2d1248cee1bbacdf0f2df350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.23.176.93 Sender: owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: We in the IETF have a tendency to 'use existing legal terminology to describe things we are doing or trying to accomplish' but generally this pertains to things that we as technologist' want to change in our own image. I had exactly this argument with Stephen Kent of PKIX and Harald Avestrand years ago, and was hammered for it, but today since there is commentary specific to this from 'the relevant US District Court Judge' I thought I would share that commentary with you... For those of you who were unaware, the RSA2008 Conference featured an expanded Law and Liability Track and one of the sessions featured an interactive session with US District Court Magistrate, John Faciolla and his Honor was very clear that the only relevant rules for Authentication were those of the Federal Rules of Evidence, and that this changed what we labeled as 'authenticated' significantly. Yes this means that our definition of 'authenticated' is different than the Court's who would review the submission of document's so controlled. So let me ask you folks, what do you think that means as far as relying on a LTANS solution? My take is that it makes our work harder not simpler. My taker is that this means that our technical standards need to meet the "rules of evidence" and not our own images of what we want those to be... To that end I propose for LTANS that it only rely on 'established legal terminology' for its operations. Todd Glassey From owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org Fri Apr 11 07:51:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ltans-archive-ba2WohFa@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ltans-archive-ba2WohFa@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634983A6E86 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:51:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.688 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.688 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.450, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_BAD_ID=2.837] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HGZ+QfSXjyH2 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f04:392::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7383A6E7A for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m3BEhxUs095675 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:43:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id m3BEhxMK095674; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:43:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from ganymede.on-x.com (ganymede.on-x.com [194.51.68.3]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m3BEhvI6095664 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:43:58 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from Peter.Sylvester@edelweb.fr) Received: from localhost (ganymede [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.on-x.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21857D; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:43:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ganymede.on-x.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ganymede.on-x.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17874-03; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:43:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from vinea.on-x.com (sedna.puteaux.on-x [192.168.10.9]) by ganymede.on-x.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841ED42; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:43:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [193.51.14.5] ([212.234.46.65]) by vinea.on-x.com (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.11) with ESMTP id 2008041116434632:331625 ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:43:46 +0200 Message-ID: <47FF7922.1060102@edelweb.fr> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:43:46 +0200 From: Peter Sylvester User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: TS Glassey Cc: ietf-ltans@imc.org Subject: Re: Use of "Legal Terms of Art" in Technical Standards. References: <002c01c89be0$c3afd840$6501a8c0@tsg1> In-Reply-To: <002c01c89be0$c3afd840$6501a8c0@tsg1> X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on vinea/ON-X(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at 04/11/2008 04:43:46 PM, Serialize by Router on vinea/ON-X(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at 04/11/2008 04:43:47 PM, Serialize complete at 04/11/2008 04:43:47 PM Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000109060108020802030207" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at on-x.com Sender: owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000109060108020802030207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > My taker is that this means that our technical standards need to meet=20 > the "rules of evidence" and not our own images of what we want those=20 > to be... 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2008 16:43:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from vinea.on-x.com (sedna.puteaux.on-x [192.168.10.9]) by ganymede.on-x.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841ED42; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:43:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [193.51.14.5] ([212.234.46.65]) by vinea.on-x.com (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.11) with ESMTP id 2008041116434632:331625 ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:43:46 +0200 Message-ID: <47FF7922.1060102@edelweb.fr> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:43:46 +0200 From: Peter Sylvester User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: TS Glassey Cc: ietf-ltans@imc.org Subject: Re: Use of "Legal Terms of Art" in Technical Standards. References: <002c01c89be0$c3afd840$6501a8c0@tsg1> In-Reply-To: <002c01c89be0$c3afd840$6501a8c0@tsg1> X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on vinea/ON-X(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at 04/11/2008 04:43:46 PM, Serialize by Router on vinea/ON-X(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at 04/11/2008 04:43:47 PM, Serialize complete at 04/11/2008 04:43:47 PM Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000109060108020802030207" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at on-x.com Sender: owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000109060108020802030207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > My taker is that this means that our technical standards need to meet=20 > the "rules of evidence" and not our own images of what we want those=20 > to be... 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with ESMTP id m3BEUVul094394 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:30:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id m3BEUVfi094393; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:30:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m3BEUUAL094385 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:30:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from tglassey@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=LhYIOoSql+t1/sFbHmtACm7WO+m7U/dj5NRuzRIP4DlEqeZwqUKjmYVp7Ug9h010; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.23.176.93] (helo=tsg1) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JkKGr-0007Fd-P2 for ietf-ltans@imc.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:30:30 -0400 Message-ID: <002c01c89be0$c3afd840$6501a8c0@tsg1> From: "TS Glassey" To: Subject: Use of "Legal Terms of Art" in Technical Standards. Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:31:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-ELNK-Trace: 01b7a7e171bdf5911aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7994dfe41534e2d1248cee1bbacdf0f2df350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.23.176.93 Sender: owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: We in the IETF have a tendency to 'use existing legal terminology to describe things we are doing or trying to accomplish' but generally this pertains to things that we as technologist' want to change in our own image. I had exactly this argument with Stephen Kent of PKIX and Harald Avestrand years ago, and was hammered for it, but today since there is commentary specific to this from 'the relevant US District Court Judge' I thought I would share that commentary with you... For those of you who were unaware, the RSA2008 Conference featured an expanded Law and Liability Track and one of the sessions featured an interactive session with US District Court Magistrate, John Faciolla and his Honor was very clear that the only relevant rules for Authentication were those of the Federal Rules of Evidence, and that this changed what we labeled as 'authenticated' significantly. Yes this means that our definition of 'authenticated' is different than the Court's who would review the submission of document's so controlled. So let me ask you folks, what do you think that means as far as relying on a LTANS solution? My take is that it makes our work harder not simpler. My taker is that this means that our technical standards need to meet the "rules of evidence" and not our own images of what we want those to be... To that end I propose for LTANS that it only rely on 'established legal terminology' for its operations. Todd Glassey Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m3BB7uqg073687 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:07:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id m3BB7ubo073684; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:07:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from scygmxsecs1.cygnacom.com (scygmxsecs1.cygnacom.com [65.242.48.253]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m3BB7rOc073674 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:07:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from CWallace@cygnacom.com) Received: (qmail 28866 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2008 10:59:05 -0000 Received: from CWallace@cygnacom.com by scygmxsecs1.cygnacom.com with EntrustECS-Server-7.4;11 Apr 2008 10:59:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scygexch1.cygnacom.com) (10.60.50.8) by scygmxsecs1.cygnacom.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2008 10:59:04 -0000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: Meeting minutes Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:07:50 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Meeting minutes Thread-Index: AcibxEg4bOYu/Z5BSJuXnF5Ncm8iBA== From: "Carl Wallace" To: Sender: owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: I just submitted the meeting minutes from the WG meeting last month (https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/71/materials.html). Sorry for the delay. The meeting was very brief. There are four primary activities remaining now, most of which are nearing completion: - New version of DSSC that addresses structural issue raised in both Vancouver and Philadelphia. Once this issue is addressed, WG last call will begin. - New version of XMLERS, followed shortly by WG last call - New version of LTAP, followed shortly by WG last call. This version will be back on standards track. - A new version of Validate will be prepared as the above move forward. This will likely be the final product of this working group.