From owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org Tue May 13 08:06:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ltans-archive-ba2WohFa@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ltans-archive-ba2WohFa@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B06E28C0EF for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 08:06:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.046 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.046 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id thZriJ-I3dhk for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 08:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7FA28C2F6 for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 08:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4DE9ew7048790 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 13 May 2008 07:10:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id m4DE9efM048789; Tue, 13 May 2008 07:09:40 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.ietf.org (mail.ietf.org [64.170.98.32]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4DE95mS048736 for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 07:09:40 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wwwrun@core3.amsl.com) Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id D4E9F3A6C23; Tue, 13 May 2008 07:07:14 -0700 (PDT) X-idtracker: yes To: IETF-Announce From: The IESG Subject: Last Call: draft-ietf-ltans-ers-scvp (Using SCVP to Convey Long-term Evidence Records) to Proposed Standard Reply-to: ietf@ietf.org CC: Message-Id: <20080513140714.D4E9F3A6C23@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 07:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: The IESG has received a request from the Long-Term Archive and Notary Services WG (ltans) to consider the following document: - 'Using SCVP to Convey Long-term Evidence Records ' as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. 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The file can be obtained via http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ltans-ers-scvp-06.txt IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag=13703&rfc_flag=0 From owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org Mon May 19 02:11:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ltans-archive-ba2WohFa@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ltans-archive-ba2WohFa@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF213A6C96 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:11:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IjbUANllAixR for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282A43A6861 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4J93QxB005217 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 19 May 2008 02:03:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id m4J93Qtq005215; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:03:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mailext.sit.fraunhofer.de (mailext.sit.fraunhofer.de [141.12.72.89]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4J93NtK005180 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:03:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from thomas.kunz@sit.fraunhofer.de) Received: from [141.12.89.208] (sitp1_156.sit.fraunhofer.de [141.12.68.156]) by mailext.sit.fraunhofer.de (8.13.6/8.13.6/9.9.9) with ESMTP id m4J93LOb025340; Mon, 19 May 2008 11:03:21 +0200 Message-ID: <48314252.4030003@sit.fraunhofer.de> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:03:14 +0200 From: Thomas Kunz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf-ltans@imc.org CC: Susanne Okunick , CWallace@cygnacom.com Subject: Re: DSSC comment References: <47DF85CE.5090803@pawisda.de> <20080318091403.146940@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20080318091403.146940@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Carl, with the new version of the dssc draft, we slighty modified the data structure so that all parameter constraints and the appropriate evaluations are merged under one algorithm OID. Best regards, Thomas Susanne Okunick schrieb: > You are right. This would be more efficient. We will think about this issue and perhaps make changes on our structure. Thank you for this comment. > > Carl Wallace schrieb: >> There was a comment during the meeting regarding DSSC (that was raised >> last meeting too). Essentially, the question is why aren't parameters >> associated with a validity period, with a list of parameters appearing >> under an OID? This would avoid searching the list for RSA, for example, >> finding multiple entries and having to dig through the parameters until >> finding an appropriate entry. >> From owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org Mon May 19 02:12:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ltans-archive-ba2WohFa@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ltans-archive-ba2WohFa@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5803428C1C6 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:12:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.023 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.023 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p0Ekf2pfiIB8 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB26728C2E3 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4J8F4Xq086282 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 19 May 2008 01:15:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id m4J8F4k5086281; Mon, 19 May 2008 01:15:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.ietf.org (mail.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1::20] (may be forged)) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4J8F3pV086274 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 01:15:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from root@core3.amsl.com) Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 0258428C12D; Mon, 19 May 2008 01:15:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ietf-ltans@imc.org Subject: I-D Action:draft-ietf-ltans-dssc-03.txt Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080519081502.0258428C12D@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 01:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Long-Term Archive and Notary Services Working Group of the IETF. Title : Data Structure for Security Suitabilities of Cryptographic Algorithms (DSSC) Author(s) : T. Kunz, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ltans-dssc-03.txt Pages : 38 Date : 2008-05-19 In many application areas it must be possible to prove the existence and integrity of digital signed data. This proof depends on the security suitability of the used cryptographic algorithms. Because algorithms can become weak over the years, it is necessary to periodically evaluate these security suitabilities. When signing or verifying data, these evaluations must be considered. This document specifies a data structure for security suitabilities of cryptographic algorithms which may be automatically interpreted.Conventions used in this document The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in [RFC2119]. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ltans-dssc-03.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ltans-dssc-03.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-05-19011001.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4J93QxB005217 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 19 May 2008 02:03:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id m4J93Qtq005215; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:03:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mailext.sit.fraunhofer.de (mailext.sit.fraunhofer.de [141.12.72.89]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4J93NtK005180 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:03:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from thomas.kunz@sit.fraunhofer.de) Received: from [141.12.89.208] (sitp1_156.sit.fraunhofer.de [141.12.68.156]) by mailext.sit.fraunhofer.de (8.13.6/8.13.6/9.9.9) with ESMTP id m4J93LOb025340; Mon, 19 May 2008 11:03:21 +0200 Message-ID: <48314252.4030003@sit.fraunhofer.de> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:03:14 +0200 From: Thomas Kunz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf-ltans@imc.org CC: Susanne Okunick , CWallace@cygnacom.com Subject: Re: DSSC comment References: <47DF85CE.5090803@pawisda.de> <20080318091403.146940@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20080318091403.146940@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Carl, with the new version of the dssc draft, we slighty modified the data structure so that all parameter constraints and the appropriate evaluations are merged under one algorithm OID. Best regards, Thomas Susanne Okunick schrieb: > You are right. This would be more efficient. We will think about this issue and perhaps make changes on our structure. Thank you for this comment. > > Carl Wallace schrieb: >> There was a comment during the meeting regarding DSSC (that was raised >> last meeting too). Essentially, the question is why aren't parameters >> associated with a validity period, with a list of parameters appearing >> under an OID? This would avoid searching the list for RSA, for example, >> finding multiple entries and having to dig through the parameters until >> finding an appropriate entry. >> Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4J8F4Xq086282 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 19 May 2008 01:15:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id m4J8F4k5086281; Mon, 19 May 2008 01:15:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.ietf.org (mail.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1::20] (may be forged)) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4J8F3pV086274 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 01:15:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from root@core3.amsl.com) Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 0258428C12D; Mon, 19 May 2008 01:15:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ietf-ltans@imc.org Subject: I-D Action:draft-ietf-ltans-dssc-03.txt Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080519081502.0258428C12D@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 01:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Long-Term Archive and Notary Services Working Group of the IETF. Title : Data Structure for Security Suitabilities of Cryptographic Algorithms (DSSC) Author(s) : T. Kunz, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ltans-dssc-03.txt Pages : 38 Date : 2008-05-19 In many application areas it must be possible to prove the existence and integrity of digital signed data. This proof depends on the security suitability of the used cryptographic algorithms. Because algorithms can become weak over the years, it is necessary to periodically evaluate these security suitabilities. When signing or verifying data, these evaluations must be considered. This document specifies a data structure for security suitabilities of cryptographic algorithms which may be automatically interpreted.Conventions used in this document The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in [RFC2119]. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ltans-dssc-03.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ltans-dssc-03.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-05-19011001.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4DE9ew7048790 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 13 May 2008 07:10:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id m4DE9efM048789; Tue, 13 May 2008 07:09:40 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.ietf.org (mail.ietf.org [64.170.98.32]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4DE95mS048736 for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 07:09:40 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wwwrun@core3.amsl.com) Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id D4E9F3A6C23; Tue, 13 May 2008 07:07:14 -0700 (PDT) X-idtracker: yes To: IETF-Announce From: The IESG Subject: Last Call: draft-ietf-ltans-ers-scvp (Using SCVP to Convey Long-term Evidence Records) to Proposed Standard Reply-to: ietf@ietf.org CC: Message-Id: <20080513140714.D4E9F3A6C23@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 07:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-ietf-ltans@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: The IESG has received a request from the Long-Term Archive and Notary Services WG (ltans) to consider the following document: - 'Using SCVP to Convey Long-term Evidence Records ' as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2008-05-27. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. The file can be obtained via http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ltans-ers-scvp-06.txt IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag=13703&rfc_flag=0