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> I am interested to know which routing protocols do not work correctly over
> uni-directional links.

The MobileMesh routing protocol works well over uni-directional links.
You can read more about it here:

   http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-grace-manet-mmrp-00.txt

Also, the MobileMesh protocol has been implemented in an Open Source
Linux software distribution which may be downloaded here:

   http://www.mitre.org/tech_transfer/mobilemesh/


Thanks,
Kevin

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The Survivable C3 Routing Algorithm was designed for unidirectional
links. It can be found in Packet Switching for Mobile Earth Stations via
Low-Orbit Satellite Network, K. Brayer, Proceedings of the IEEE,
November 1984. This paper is referenced in the patent for the Iridium
satellite network. I do not know whether or not the Iridium people used
the algorithm or other elements of the paper in their network.
Kenneth Brayer
> 
> > I am interested to know which routing protocols do not work correctly over
> > uni-directional links.



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Oh you (nitin)... About LAR/LAM - there are many flaws
in location based routing. Your original proposal
does not take into account connection/signal
propagation properties, just location which is wrong.
None of LAR/LAM have been implemented and tested
in real systems. You should do it since you started
it.

There is too much BS Stuff in this circle.
I recall AODV - where the heck is the distance vector
being used here?? That was just a twist from the DSDV
protocol which is a table-driven protocol but
the authors twisted it to change it to on-demand 
based. There is just not enough good/properly 
designed protocols and too much BS stuff and politics
too.

These people need to wake up...


--- Nitin H Vaidya <vaidya@cs.tamu.edu> wrote:
> 
>   >> From: Tom Hello <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com>      
>  
>   >> From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil Fri Dec 22
> 12:43:48 2000
>   >> 
>   >> Li Li wrote:
>   >> >
>   >> >In the DSR draft, it says "Although many
> routing
>   >> >protocols operate correctly
>   >> >only over bi-directional links, DSR can
> successfully
>   >> >discover and forward
>   >> >packets over paths that contain
> uni-directional
>   >> >links."
>   >> 
>   >> I don't believe a single word of it. It was not
>   >> even proven!! The DSR draft constantly copys
> and
> 
> I do not recall if they give a formal proof or not,
> but
> it seemed to me that DSR could work on
> unidirectional links.
> Do you have a counter-example (or a "proof") that it
> does not work?
> 
>   ...
>   >> Also, why you are enhancing DSR and not doing
> your
>   >> own protocol? One need not have a paper that is
>   >> DSR compliant to get one's paper accepted!!
> 
> Huh !?
> Enhancing an existing protocol is not necessarily a
> bad
> thing, be it DSR, AODV, TORA, whatever.
> 

> Happy holidays.
> 
> - nitin
> 
> .
> hoc/ 
> 
> Happy holidays.
> 
> - nitin
> 
> .
> 


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hi Tom

  >> From cyberspacetom@yahoo.com Tue Jan  2 10:31:41 2001
  >> 
  >> Oh you (nitin)... About LAR/LAM - there are many flaws
  >> in location based routing. Your original proposal
  >> does not take into account connection/signal
  >> propagation properties, just location which is wrong.

Of course, LAR is not perfect, and other folks have made some
proposals to improve on LAR.

It is worth noting though that LAR was designed to be an "optimization".
What this means is that EVEN if LAR optimization does not benefit
as intended, the protocol still works "correctly" (perhaps not as well
as we might like).
LAR does improve performance quite a bit under the right circumstances
(see the paper).

  >> None of LAR/LAM have been implemented and tested
  >> in real systems. You should do it since you started
  >> it.

Yes. We are planning to implement LAR eventually - this is not
hard to do, considering that Dave Johnson has kindly made his
DSR code available. My hope is to have someone modify DSR
to run LAR as a class project in Spring'01.

Cheerio.

- nitin



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Enclosed below please find a Preliminary Announcement and Call for
Papers for the 7th Annual International Conference on Mobile Computing
and Networking (MobiCom) to be held in Rome, Italy from July 16-21,
2001.

As you might already know, MobiCom has an established reputation as
the pre-eminent conference in this area owing to the exceptionally
high quality of papers, excellent tutorials and workshops, and
stimulating panels conducted by mobile computing illuminati of various
stripes.

For complete information about the upcoming conference, please visit:
    http://www.research.ibm.com/mobicom2001/

A printer friendly version of this CFP is available at:

   http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/~krishna/Mobicom2001-onepagecfp.pdf  (PDF)
   http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/~krishna/Mobicom2001-onepagecfp.ps   (PS)

We apologize if you received multiple copies of this Call for Papers.
Please feel free to distribute it to those who might be interested.

Very truly yours,

ACM SIGMOBILE MobiCom 2001 Organizing Committee

***********************************************************************
	     Preliminary Announcement and Call for Papers
 
			 *** ACM MobiCom 2001 ***
 
              The Seventh Annual International Conference on
                     Mobile Computing and Networking

		       July 16-21, Rome, Italy

		      Sponsored by ACM SIGMOBILE

	       http://www.research.ibm.com/mobicom2001/
		    http://www.acm.org/sigmobile/

		Submission Deadline: January 12, 2001
***********************************************************************

PAPERS:

Technical papers (maximum 15 pages) describing original, previously
unpublished, completed research, not currently under review by another
conference or journal, are solicited on the following topics:

   * Applications and computing services supporting mobile users
   * Architectures, protocols, and algorithms to cope with mobility,
     limited bandwidth, or intermittent connectivity
   * Database and data management issues in mobile computing
   * Performance of mobile/wireless networks and systems
   * Security and privacy of mobile/wireless systems
   * Interaction between different layers of mobile/wireless systems
   * Integration and interworking of wired and wireless networks
   * Adaptive applications and systems for mobile environments
   * Distributed-system aspects of mobile systems
   * Operating system support for mobility
   * Location-dependent applications
   * Wireless multimedia systems
   * Power management
   * Mobile agents
   * Pervasive computing
   * Wireless sensor networks
   * Wireless/mobile service management and delivery

All papers will be refereed by the program committee. Accepted papers
will be published in the conference proceedings. Papers of particular
merit will be proposed for publication in the ACM/Baltzer Wireless
Networks (WINET) and Mobile Networks and Applications (MONET) journals.

Note: Student Registrations will be provided at a discounted rate.

CHALLENGES SESSION, PANELS, RESEARCH DEMOS, TUTORIALS:

 Short papers (maximum of 8 pages) that challenge the mobile computing
 community with new technologies or visionary applications are
 solicited. Such papers should provide stimulating ideas or visions
 that may open up exciting avenues of mobile computing research.

 Proposals are solicited for panels that examine innovative,
 controversial, or otherwise provocative issues of interest.

 Proposals for tutorials are solicited. Tutorial topics that encompass
 the systems aspects of mobile computing and/or practical experiences
 in building/deploying such systems are of particular interest.

 Informal proposals for research demos are solicited. Proposals should
 include: the focus area in mobility, the technologies involved,
 specific equipment used, demo layout, space required, etc.

 Please refer to the conference website  for submission and other
 details. (The paper submission website is READY for submissions now.) 

IMPORTANT DATES:
 
    * Technical Paper Submissions due: January 12, 2001
          - Please refer to the website for submission instructions

    * Notification of acceptance:     May 1, 2001
    * Camera-ready version due:       May 15, 2001

    * Challenges Session Papers, Panel Proposals, Tutorial Proposals
       Submissions due: January 12, 2001
          - Please refer to the website for submission instructions

 
FOR MORE INFORMATION:
 
 Send email to mobicom2001@winlab.rutgers.edu with any questions or
 comments about the conference or for more information.

ORGANIZING COMMITTEE:
 
    * General Chair:                      * Tutorials Co-Chairs:
 
      Christopher Rose                      Ravi Jain
      Rutgers University, WINLAB            Telcordia Technologies
 
    * General Vice Chair:                   Chiara Petrioli
                                            Politecnico di Milano
      Sergio Palazzo
      Universita` di Catania              * Panels Chair:
 
    * Program Co-Chairs:                    Ramesh Rao
                                            Univ. of California, San Diego
      Mahmoud Naghshineh
      IBM T.J. Watson Research Center     * Local Arrangement Chair:
 
      Michele Zorzi                         Marco Listanti
      Universita` di Ferrara                Universita` di Roma "La Sapienza"
 
    * Finance Chair:   			    Chiara Petrioli
                       			    Politecnico di Milano 
      David B. Johnson 
      Rice University                     

    * Registration Chair:		  * Exhibits/Sponsorships Chair:
 
      Irene Katzela                         Marco Ajmone Marsan
      Lucent Technologies                   Politecnico di Torino
 
    * Publicity Co-Chairs:                * Research Demos Chair: 

      Stefano Basagni			    Nigel Davies          
      Univ. of Texas at Dallas		    Lancaster University  
                                   
      Krishna Sivalingam                  * Steering Committee Chair: 
      Washington State University  	                              
                                            Imrich Chlamtac             
                         		    Univ. of Texas at Dallas    
                                          
***********************************************************************





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Hi, all.

Sorry for the previous email from me, I was trying to forward to my
students - to tell them that my schedule for next year would be too full
for any addiitonal travel -  but accidently hit the
reply-all buttom (when using the Netscape email).
I hope none of you would mis-interpret that mesg - and sincerely
apologize to the Symp organizers for any negative effect that mesg may
cause.


> Kim Dongkyun wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello ALL,
> 
>  * Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this *
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Symposium Chairman
> 
>  Prof. C-K. Toh
>  Electrical & Computer Engineering,
>  Georgia Institute of Technology
>  Fax: 404-894-7468 E-mail:
>  cktoh@ece.gatech.edu
> 
> IEEE Comsoc Liason
> 
>  Gayle Weisman
>  IEEE Communications Society
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> About IEEE SAWN2001
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> The IEEE Symposium on Ad-Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN2001) is a
> new and *high quality* technical meeting (to be held as part of
> GLOBECOM 2001) for researchers to present their latest research
> work related to the fast evolving field of ad hoc (multihop,
> adaptive, and self-organizing) wireless networks and pervasive
> communications. Such networks could have strong potential impact
> on our daily lives (for example at home and on-the-road) and the
> way we work. They are also particularly attractive for military
> and emergency operations due to their fast deployable and
> self-organizing characteristics. Future ad hoc networks are also
> capable of supporting multimedia. High quality papers are invited
> from researchers in academia and industries who are involved in
> this area of work.
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Topics of Interest Include (but not are limited to):
> 
> - Ad Hoc Routing Protocols/Algorithms
> - Ad Hoc Transport Issues
> - Media Access Techniques/Protocols
> - Sensor & Data Fusion Ad Hoc Networks
> - Ad hoc network architectures
> - Error & Link Control Tecniques
> - Access & Session Support
> - Ad Hoc Multicasting Protocols/Algorithms
> - Service Discovery Algorithms
> - Low Power Algorithms and Protocols
> - Quality of Service Issues
> - Mobile IP with Ad Hoc
> - Performance of Bluetooth Networks
> - Integration Issues
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Instructions for Authors
> 
> Technical papers should be submitted to the Globecom Committee
> following the general Globecom submission process and instructions
> (AUTHOR KIT). In order to ensure that your paper is properly
> routed to this Symposium, it is VERY IMPORTANT that you explicitly
> identify Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks as the intended
> symposium to which you are submitting the paper. Failure to do
> so may result in your paper being forwarded to another symposium.
> All submissions are done electronically. Submission deadline is
> 31st March 2001.
> 
> Accepted papers will be published in the IEEE GLOBECOM proceedings.
> All inquires should be directed to the symposium chairman at
> cktoh@ece.gatech.edu
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> International Technical Program Committee
> 
> Dr. Peiying Zhu, NORTEL Networks
> Dr. Bassam Hashem, NORTEL Networks
> Dr. Yile Guo, NOKIA USA
> Dr. Eric Fleury, INRIA, France
> Prof. Andre Schaff, U of Henry Poincare Nancy 1, France
> Prof. Jean-Yves-Le-Boudec, EPFL, Switzerland
> Prof. Adam Wolisz, TU Berlin, Germany
> Prof. H. T. Mouftah, Queens University, Canada
> Prof. Victor O. K. Li, University of Hong Kong
> Prof. K-C Chen, National Taiwan University, Taiwan
> Syed Akbar, TRW, USA
> Dr. Kenneth Bayer, MITRE Corporation, USA
> Dr. Howard Lemberg, Telcordia Technologies, USA
> Prof. Kris Pister, University of California Berkeley
> Prof. C-K. Toh, Georgia Tech, USA
> Prof. Ahmed Helmy, University of Southern California,
> Dongkyun Kim, Seoul National University, Korea
> Dr. Nader Moayeri, National Institute of Standard & Technology
> Prof. Christian Bonnet, EURECOM, France
> 
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> Web Site:
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> http://www.globecom2001.com
> http://users.ece.gatech.edu:80/~cktoh/sawn/sawn01.html
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Chunming QIAO				Associate Professor
Office: (716)-645-3180 ext. 140		201 Bell Hall
Fax: (716)-645-3464			CSE Department, Box 602000
State University of New York at Buffalo, Amherst, NY 14260-2000
World Wide Web: http://www.cse.buffalo.edu/~qiao
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Subject: Antivirus Utility found the W32/Navidad.e@M virus
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Antivirus Utility for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with the
W32/Navidad.e@M virus. The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re:
Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001",
was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at EMAIL/NA1/WHQ-MSGRTR-01.


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Subject: Antivirus Utility found the W32/Navidad.e@M virus
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Antivirus Utility for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with the
W32/Navidad.e@M virus. The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re:
Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001",
was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at EMAIL/NA1/WHQ-MSGRTR-01.


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Subject: Antivirus Utility found the W32/Navidad.e@M virus
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Antivirus Utility for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with the
W32/Navidad.e@M virus. The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re:
Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001",
was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at EMAIL/NA1/WHQ-MSGRTR-01.


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Subject: Antivirus Utility found the W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:46:42 -0500 
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Antivirus Utility for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with the
W32/Navidad.e@M virus. The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re:
Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001",
was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at EMAIL/NA1/WHQ-MSGRTR-01.


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Antigen for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with W32/Navidad.e@M (McAfee4) virus.
The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001", was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in SMTP Messages\Inbound
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To: "Kim Dongkyun" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>
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Subject: Re: Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001
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Hi, all.

Sorry for the previous email from me, I was trying to forward to my
students - to tell them that my schedule for next year would be too full
for any addiitonal travel -  but accidently hit the
reply-all buttom (when using the Netscape email).
I hope none of you would mis-interpret that mesg - and sincerely
apologize to the Symp organizers for any negative effect that mesg may
cause.


> Kim Dongkyun wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello ALL,
> 
>  * Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this *
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Symposium Chairman
> 
>  Prof. C-K. Toh
>  Electrical & Computer Engineering,
>  Georgia Institute of Technology
>  Fax: 404-894-7468 E-mail:
>  cktoh@ece.gatech.edu
> 
> IEEE Comsoc Liason
> 
>  Gayle Weisman
>  IEEE Communications Society
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> About IEEE SAWN2001
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> The IEEE Symposium on Ad-Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN2001) is a
> new and *high quality* technical meeting (to be held as part of
> GLOBECOM 2001) for researchers to present their latest research
> work related to the fast evolving field of ad hoc (multihop,
> adaptive, and self-organizing) wireless networks and pervasive
> communications. Such networks could have strong potential impact
> on our daily lives (for example at home and on-the-road) and the
> way we work. They are also particularly attractive for military
> and emergency operations due to their fast deployable and
> self-organizing characteristics. Future ad hoc networks are also
> capable of supporting multimedia. High quality papers are invited
> from researchers in academia and industries who are involved in
> this area of work.
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Topics of Interest Include (but not are limited to):
> 
> - Ad Hoc Routing Protocols/Algorithms
> - Ad Hoc Transport Issues
> - Media Access Techniques/Protocols
> - Sensor & Data Fusion Ad Hoc Networks
> - Ad hoc network architectures
> - Error & Link Control Tecniques
> - Access & Session Support
> - Ad Hoc Multicasting Protocols/Algorithms
> - Service Discovery Algorithms
> - Low Power Algorithms and Protocols
> - Quality of Service Issues
> - Mobile IP with Ad Hoc
> - Performance of Bluetooth Networks
> - Integration Issues
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Instructions for Authors
> 
> Technical papers should be submitted to the Globecom Committee
> following the general Globecom submission process and instructions
> (AUTHOR KIT). In order to ensure that your paper is properly
> routed to this Symposium, it is VERY IMPORTANT that you explicitly
> identify Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks as the intended
> symposium to which you are submitting the paper. Failure to do
> so may result in your paper being forwarded to another symposium.
> All submissions are done electronically. Submission deadline is
> 31st March 2001.
> 
> Accepted papers will be published in the IEEE GLOBECOM proceedings.
> All inquires should be directed to the symposium chairman at
> cktoh@ece.gatech.edu
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> International Technical Program Committee
> 
> Dr. Peiying Zhu, NORTEL Networks
> Dr. Bassam Hashem, NORTEL Networks
> Dr. Yile Guo, NOKIA USA
> Dr. Eric Fleury, INRIA, France
> Prof. Andre Schaff, U of Henry Poincare Nancy 1, France
> Prof. Jean-Yves-Le-Boudec, EPFL, Switzerland
> Prof. Adam Wolisz, TU Berlin, Germany
> Prof. H. T. Mouftah, Queens University, Canada
> Prof. Victor O. K. Li, University of Hong Kong
> Prof. K-C Chen, National Taiwan University, Taiwan
> Syed Akbar, TRW, USA
> Dr. Kenneth Bayer, MITRE Corporation, USA
> Dr. Howard Lemberg, Telcordia Technologies, USA
> Prof. Kris Pister, University of California Berkeley
> Prof. C-K. Toh, Georgia Tech, USA
> Prof. Ahmed Helmy, University of Southern California,
> Dongkyun Kim, Seoul National University, Korea
> Dr. Nader Moayeri, National Institute of Standard & Technology
> Prof. Christian Bonnet, EURECOM, France
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Web Site:
> 
> http://www.globecom2001.com
> http://users.ece.gatech.edu:80/~cktoh/sawn/sawn01.html
> --------------------------------------------------------------

-- 

Chunming QIAO				Associate Professor
Office: (716)-645-3180 ext. 140		201 Bell Hall
Fax: (716)-645-3464			CSE Department, Box 602000
State University of New York at Buffalo, Amherst, NY 14260-2000
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Antigen for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with Navidad.16896.Worm
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From: ANTIGEN_FIR <ANTIGEN_FIR@sycamorenet.com>
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Subject: Antigen found Navidad.16896.Worm virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:49:40 -0500 
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Antigen for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with Navidad.16896.Worm
virus.
The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE
Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001", was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at Sycamore Networks/SYCAMORE/FIR.


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Subject: Antigen found W32/Navidad.e@M (McAfee4) virus
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Antigen for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with W32/Navidad.e@M (McAfee4) virus.
The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001", was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in SMTP Messages\Inbound
located at Unknown/Unknown/MSMAIL.




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Subject: Antigen found =emanuel.exe file
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:57:40 -0500 
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Antigen for Exchange found Emanuel.exe matching =emanuel.exe file filter.
The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE
Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001", was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at Allegheny Power/EXCHANGE1/SMPXCH0C.


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From: Anti-Virus Utility <ANTIGEN_WHQ-MSGRTR-01@pit.comms.marconi.com>
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        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
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Subject: Antivirus Utility found the W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:41:28 -0500 
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Antivirus Utility for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with the
W32/Navidad.e@M virus. The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re:
Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001",
was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at EMAIL/NA1/WHQ-MSGRTR-01.


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Subject: Antigen found =emanuel.exe file
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:58:22 -0500 
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Antigen for Exchange found Emanuel.exe matching =emanuel.exe file filter.
The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE
Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001", was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at Allegheny Power/EXCHANGE1/SAPXCH0C.


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From: Anti-Virus Utility <ANTIGEN_WHQ-MSGRTR-01@pit.comms.marconi.com>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
        "'qiao@computer.org'" <qiao@computer.org>,
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Subject: Antivirus Utility found the W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:53:30 -0500 
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Antivirus Utility for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with the
W32/Navidad.e@M virus. The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re:
Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001",
was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at EMAIL/NA1/WHQ-MSGRTR-01.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:05:12 2001
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To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
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Subject: Antigen found the W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:01:54 -0600 
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You have recently received a virus infected message.  Please read this whole
message for details.

In a message with the subject of:  "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad
Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001"
Sent from: Wu Jun  
At the email address of: jwu@ee.cuhk.edu.hk 
Antigen for Exchange found the file: Emanuel.exe  
Infected with the virus:  W32/Navidad.e@M  .
The file is:  Deleted.  

The message was sent to:
,pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr;tccc@ieee.org;qiao@computer.org;ietf@ietf.org;manet@itd.
nrl.navy.mil
The message was discovered in the folder: IMC Queues\Inbound  located at
University of Missouri/Kansas City/UMKC-MAIL01.

     If the person that sent you a message with the subject line of: Re: Call
For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001 was from
UMKC, your copy of this message has probably been cleaned.  You may want to have
the sender resend the message after they have disinfected their machine just to
be safe.

     If the person that sent you a message with the subject line of: Re: Call
For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001 was NOT from
UMKC, you have an infected copy of the message and you should delete it without
opening it.  Then contact that person about getting you a new copy after they
have cleaned their machine.


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From: Anti-Virus Utility <ANTIGEN_WHQ-MSGRTR-01@pit.comms.marconi.com>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
        "'qiao@computer.org'" <qiao@computer.org>,
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Subject: Antivirus Utility found the W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:53:25 -0500 
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Antivirus Utility for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with the
W32/Navidad.e@M virus. The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re:
Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001",
was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at EMAIL/NA1/WHQ-MSGRTR-01.


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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:04:21 +0100
Subject: ALERT: Antigen has suspended a message from "Wu Jun" <jwu@ee.cuhk
	.edu.hk> in SCAN.BOX
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Error NWall.Sfadll(508.23.259): Failed to update cured file attachment. The
message is currently suspended in SCAN.BOX on CN=MAILMTA01/O=SINET.





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From: ANTIGEN_NAVAJO <ANTIGEN_NAVAJO@astanetworks.com>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'" <tccc@ieee.org>,
        "'qiao@computer.org'" <qiao@computer.org>,
        "'ietf@ietf.org'" <ietf@ietf.org>,
        "'manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil'" <manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Antigen found W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:10:03 -0800 
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Antigen for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with W32/Navidad.e@M virus.
The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE
Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001", was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at ASTANETWORKS/SEATTLE/NAVAJO.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:12:47 2001
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From: ANTIGEN_NAVAJO <ANTIGEN_NAVAJO@astanetworks.com>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
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Subject: Antigen found W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:08:07 -0800 
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Antigen for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with W32/Navidad.e@M virus.
The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE
Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001", was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at ASTANETWORKS/SEATTLE/NAVAJO.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:13:07 2001
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From: ANTIGEN_UMKC-MAIL01 <ANTIGEN_UMKC-MAIL01@umkc.edu>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
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	 <manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Antigen found the W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:01:49 -0600 
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You have recently received a virus infected message.  Please read this whole
message for details.

In a message with the subject of:  "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad
Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001"
Sent from: Wu Jun  
At the email address of: jwu@ee.cuhk.edu.hk 
Antigen for Exchange found the file: Emanuel.exe  
Infected with the virus:  W32/Navidad.e@M  .
The file is:  Deleted.  

The message was sent to:
,pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr;tccc@ieee.org;qiao@computer.org;ietf@ietf.org;manet@itd.
nrl.navy.mil
The message was discovered in the folder: IMC Queues\Inbound  located at
University of Missouri/Kansas City/UMKC-MAIL01.

     If the person that sent you a message with the subject line of: Re: Call
For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001 was from
UMKC, your copy of this message has probably been cleaned.  You may want to have
the sender resend the message after they have disinfected their machine just to
be safe.

     If the person that sent you a message with the subject line of: Re: Call
For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001 was NOT from
UMKC, you have an infected copy of the message and you should delete it without
opening it.  Then contact that person about getting you a new copy after they
have cleaned their machine.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:14:51 2001
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From: Nemx Power Tools for MS Exchange Server_US-EA-GTWY-4_0
	 <NMXEXSPP0_US-EA-GTWY-4@unisys.com>
To: Kim Dongkyun <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>
Cc: tccc@ieee.org, Chunming Qiao <qiao@computer.org>, ietf@ietf.org,
        manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
Subject: Virus Notification: A virus has been detected in a message in whi
	ch you where a recipient
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:11:29 -0600 
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	From:		Wu Jun [SMTP:jwu@ee.cuhk.edu.hk]
	To:		
	Date:		Wed, Jan 03 2001,  3:10:22 AM
	Subject:		Re: Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad
Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001


The message contained 1 virus(es):

	emanuel.exe		infected with the Navidad.16896.Worm virus
- - -


Virus Notification: A virus has been detected in a message in which you
where a recipient!
Check the original message.
If the attachment could not be repaired it was Deleted from the message.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:15:12 2001
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From: Nemx Power Tools for MS Exchange Server_US-BB-GTWY-2_0
	 <NMXEXSPP0_US-BB-GTWY-2@unisys.com>
To: Kim Dongkyun <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>
Cc: tccc@ieee.org, Chunming Qiao <qiao@computer.org>, ietf@ietf.org,
        manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
Subject: Virus Notification: A virus has been detected in a message in whi
	ch you where a recipient
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 05:11:46 -0500 
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	From:		Wu Jun [SMTP:jwu@ee.cuhk.edu.hk]
	To:		
	Date:		Wed, Jan 03 2001,  4:10:22 AM
	Subject:		Re: Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad
Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001


The message contained 1 virus(es):

	emanuel.exe		infected with the Navidad.16896.Worm virus
- - -


Virus Notification: A virus has been detected in a message in which you
where a recipient!
Check the original message.
If the attachment could not be repaired it was Deleted from the message.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:16:03 2001
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From: ANTIGEN_UMKC-MAIL01 <ANTIGEN_UMKC-MAIL01@umkc.edu>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
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        "'ietf@ietf.org'" <ietf@ietf.org>,
        "'manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil'"
	 <manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Antigen found the W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:01:59 -0600 
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You have recently received a virus infected message.  Please read this whole
message for details.

In a message with the subject of:  "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad
Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001"
Sent from: Wu Jun  
At the email address of: jwu@ee.cuhk.edu.hk 
Antigen for Exchange found the file: Emanuel.exe  
Infected with the virus:  W32/Navidad.e@M  .
The file is:  Deleted.  

The message was sent to:
,pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr;tccc@ieee.org;qiao@computer.org;ietf@ietf.org;manet@itd.
nrl.navy.mil
The message was discovered in the folder: IMC Queues\Inbound  located at
University of Missouri/Kansas City/UMKC-MAIL01.

     If the person that sent you a message with the subject line of: Re: Call
For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001 was from
UMKC, your copy of this message has probably been cleaned.  You may want to have
the sender resend the message after they have disinfected their machine just to
be safe.

     If the person that sent you a message with the subject line of: Re: Call
For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001 was NOT from
UMKC, you have an infected copy of the message and you should delete it without
opening it.  Then contact that person about getting you a new copy after they
have cleaned their machine.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:16:06 2001
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From: ANTIGEN_FIR <ANTIGEN_FIR@sycamorenet.com>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
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        "'ietf@ietf.org'" <ietf@ietf.org>,
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	 <manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Antigen found Navidad.16896.Worm virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:55:38 -0500 
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Antigen for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with Navidad.16896.Worm
virus.
The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE
Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001", was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at Sycamore Networks/SYCAMORE/FIR.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:17:06 2001
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From: Nemx Power Tools for MS Exchange Server_US-EA-GTWY-4_0
	 <NMXEXSPP0_US-EA-GTWY-4@unisys.com>
To: Kim Dongkyun <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>
Cc: tccc@ieee.org, Chunming Qiao <qiao@computer.org>, ietf@ietf.org,
        manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
Subject: Virus Notification: A virus has been detected in a message in whi
	ch you where a recipient
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:15:54 -0600 
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	From:		Wu Jun [SMTP:jwu@ee.cuhk.edu.hk]
	To:		
	Date:		Wed, Jan 03 2001,  3:10:26 AM
	Subject:		Re: Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad
Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001


The message contained 1 virus(es):

	emanuel.exe		infected with the Navidad.16896.Worm virus
- - -


Virus Notification: A virus has been detected in a message in which you
where a recipient!
Check the original message.
If the attachment could not be repaired it was Deleted from the message.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:17:28 2001
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From: Anti-Virus Utility <ANTIGEN_WHQ-MSGRTR-01@pit.comms.marconi.com>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
        "'qiao@computer.org'" <qiao@computer.org>,
        "'ietf@ietf.org'" <ietf@ietf.org>,
        "'manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil'"
	 <manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Antivirus Utility found the W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:46:37 -0500 
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Antivirus Utility for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with the
W32/Navidad.e@M virus. The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re:
Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001",
was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at EMAIL/NA1/WHQ-MSGRTR-01.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:17:58 2001
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From: Anti-Virus Utility <ANTIGEN_WHQ-MSGRTR-01@pit.comms.marconi.com>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
        "'qiao@computer.org'" <qiao@computer.org>,
        "'ietf@ietf.org'" <ietf@ietf.org>,
        "'manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil'"
	 <manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Antivirus Utility found the W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 05:09:42 -0500 
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Sender: owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
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Antivirus Utility for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with the
W32/Navidad.e@M virus. The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re:
Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001",
was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at EMAIL/NA1/WHQ-MSGRTR-01.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:18:01 2001
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From: ANTIGEN_FIR <ANTIGEN_FIR@sycamorenet.com>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
        "'qiao@computer.org'" <qiao@computer.org>,
        "'ietf@ietf.org'" <ietf@ietf.org>,
        "'manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil'"
	 <manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Antigen found Navidad.16896.Worm virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 05:06:36 -0500 
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Antigen for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with Navidad.16896.Worm
virus.
The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE
Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001", was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at Sycamore Networks/SYCAMORE/FIR.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:18:06 2001
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From: Antigen@itd.nrl.navy.mil
To: pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr, tccc@ieee.org, qiao@computer.org, ietf@ietf.org,
        manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
Subject: Antigen found W32/Navidad.e@M (McAfee4) virus
Message-ID: <MSMAILf69aZbLAX3cf300000007@msmail.win.zumanetworks.com>
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Date: 3 Jan 2001 02:06:55 -0800
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Antigen for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with W32/Navidad.e@M (McAfee4) virus.
The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001", was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in SMTP Messages\Inbound
located at Unknown/Unknown/MSMAIL.




From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:23:32 2001
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From: ANTIGEN_UMKC-MAIL01 <ANTIGEN_UMKC-MAIL01@umkc.edu>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
        "'qiao@computer.org'" <qiao@computer.org>,
        "'ietf@ietf.org'" <ietf@ietf.org>,
        "'manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil'"
	 <manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Antigen found the W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:02:04 -0600 
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
Content-Type: text/plain
Sender: owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
Precedence: bulk

You have recently received a virus infected message.  Please read this whole
message for details.

In a message with the subject of:  "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad
Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001"
Sent from: Wu Jun  
At the email address of: jwu@ee.cuhk.edu.hk 
Antigen for Exchange found the file: Emanuel.exe  
Infected with the virus:  W32/Navidad.e@M  .
The file is:  Deleted.  

The message was sent to:
,pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr;tccc@ieee.org;qiao@computer.org;ietf@ietf.org;manet@itd.
nrl.navy.mil
The message was discovered in the folder: IMC Queues\Inbound  located at
University of Missouri/Kansas City/UMKC-MAIL01.

     If the person that sent you a message with the subject line of: Re: Call
For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001 was from
UMKC, your copy of this message has probably been cleaned.  You may want to have
the sender resend the message after they have disinfected their machine just to
be safe.

     If the person that sent you a message with the subject line of: Re: Call
For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001 was NOT from
UMKC, you have an infected copy of the message and you should delete it without
opening it.  Then contact that person about getting you a new copy after they
have cleaned their machine.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:24:19 2001
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From: ANTIGEN_SMPXCH0C <ANTIGEN_SMPXCH0C@alleghenypower.com>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
        "'qiao@computer.org'" <qiao@computer.org>,
        "'ietf@ietf.org'" <ietf@ietf.org>,
        "'manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil'"
	 <manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Antigen found =emanuel.exe file
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 05:09:09 -0500 
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)
Content-Type: text/plain
Sender: owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
Precedence: bulk

Antigen for Exchange found Emanuel.exe matching =emanuel.exe file filter.
The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE
Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001", was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at Allegheny Power/EXCHANGE1/SMPXCH0C.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:26:18 2001
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	for <manet-archive@odin.ietf.org>; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 06:26:18 -0500 (EST)
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From: ANTIGEN_UMKC-MAIL01 <ANTIGEN_UMKC-MAIL01@umkc.edu>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
        "'qiao@computer.org'" <qiao@computer.org>,
        "'ietf@ietf.org'" <ietf@ietf.org>,
        "'manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil'"
	 <manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Antigen found the W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:07:12 -0600 
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
Content-Type: text/plain
Sender: owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
Precedence: bulk

You have recently received a virus infected message.  Please read this whole
message for details.

In a message with the subject of:  "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad
Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001"
Sent from: Wu Jun  
At the email address of: jwu@ee.cuhk.edu.hk 
Antigen for Exchange found the file: Emanuel.exe  
Infected with the virus:  W32/Navidad.e@M  .
The file is:  Deleted.  

The message was sent to:
,pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr;tccc@ieee.org;qiao@computer.org;ietf@ietf.org;manet@itd.
nrl.navy.mil
The message was discovered in the folder: IMC Queues\Inbound  located at
University of Missouri/Kansas City/UMKC-MAIL01.

     If the person that sent you a message with the subject line of: Re: Call
For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001 was from
UMKC, your copy of this message has probably been cleaned.  You may want to have
the sender resend the message after they have disinfected their machine just to
be safe.

     If the person that sent you a message with the subject line of: Re: Call
For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001 was NOT from
UMKC, you have an infected copy of the message and you should delete it without
opening it.  Then contact that person about getting you a new copy after they
have cleaned their machine.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:27:14 2001
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From: ANTIGEN_NAVAJO <ANTIGEN_NAVAJO@astanetworks.com>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'" <tccc@ieee.org>,
        "'qiao@computer.org'" <qiao@computer.org>,
        "'ietf@ietf.org'" <ietf@ietf.org>,
        "'manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil'" <manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Antigen found W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:26:39 -0800 
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X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)
Content-Type: text/plain
Sender: owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
Precedence: bulk

Antigen for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with W32/Navidad.e@M virus.
The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE
Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001", was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at ASTANETWORKS/SEATTLE/NAVAJO.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:27:50 2001
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	for <manet-archive@odin.ietf.org>; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 06:27:50 -0500 (EST)
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Message-Id: <200101031021.FAA26942@viper3.alleghenypower.com>
From: ANTIGEN_SAPXCH0C <ANTIGEN_SAPXCH0C@alleghenypower.com>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
        "'qiao@computer.org'" <qiao@computer.org>,
        "'ietf@ietf.org'" <ietf@ietf.org>,
        "'manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil'"
	 <manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Antigen found =emanuel.exe file
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 05:22:40 -0500 
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)
Content-Type: text/plain
Sender: owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
Precedence: bulk

Antigen for Exchange found Emanuel.exe matching =emanuel.exe file filter.
The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE
Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001", was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at Allegheny Power/EXCHANGE1/SAPXCH0C.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:28:44 2001
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	for <manet-archive@odin.ietf.org>; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 06:28:44 -0500 (EST)
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X-Lotus-FromDomain: SINET
From: "MAILMTA01" <MAILMTA01@somfy.com>
To: "Antigen Notification List" <Antigen.Notification.List@somfy.com>
Message-ID: <C12569C9.00387994.00@mailmta.cluses.somfy.fr>
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:16:50 +0100
Subject: ALERT: Antigen has suspended a message from "Wu Jun" <jwu@ee.cuhk
	.edu.hk> in SCAN.BOX
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Sender: owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
Precedence: bulk




Error NWall.Sfadll(508.23.259): Failed to update cured file attachment. The
message is currently suspended in SCAN.BOX on CN=MAILMTA01/O=SINET.





From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:28:45 2001
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	for <manet-archive@odin.ietf.org>; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 06:28:45 -0500 (EST)
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From: ANTIGEN_NAVAJO <ANTIGEN_NAVAJO@astanetworks.com>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'" <tccc@ieee.org>,
        "'qiao@computer.org'" <qiao@computer.org>,
        "'ietf@ietf.org'" <ietf@ietf.org>,
        "'manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil'" <manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Antigen found W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:08:11 -0800 
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)
Content-Type: text/plain
Sender: owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
Precedence: bulk

Antigen for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with W32/Navidad.e@M virus.
The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE
Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001", was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at ASTANETWORKS/SEATTLE/NAVAJO.


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From: Anti-Virus Utility <ANTIGEN_WHQ-MSGRTR-01@pit.comms.marconi.com>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
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Subject: Antivirus Utility found the W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 05:17:25 -0500 
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Antivirus Utility for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with the
W32/Navidad.e@M virus. The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re:
Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001",
was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at EMAIL/NA1/WHQ-MSGRTR-01.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:29:44 2001
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From: ANTIGEN_SAPXCH0C <ANTIGEN_SAPXCH0C@alleghenypower.com>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
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Subject: Antigen found =emanuel.exe file
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 05:26:39 -0500 
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Antigen for Exchange found Emanuel.exe matching =emanuel.exe file filter.
The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE
Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001", was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at Allegheny Power/EXCHANGE1/SAPXCH0C.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:33:34 2001
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From: Anti-Virus Utility <ANTIGEN_WHQ-MSGRTR-01@pit.comms.marconi.com>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
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Subject: Antivirus Utility found the W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 05:09:47 -0500 
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Antivirus Utility for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with the
W32/Navidad.e@M virus. The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re:
Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001",
was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at EMAIL/NA1/WHQ-MSGRTR-01.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:37:36 2001
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Subject: Antigen found W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:22:36 -0800 
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Antigen for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with W32/Navidad.e@M virus.
The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE
Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001", was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at ASTANETWORKS/SEATTLE/NAVAJO.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:40:33 2001
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From: Nemx Power Tools for MS Exchange Server_US-EA-GTWY-7_0
	 <NMXEXSPP0_US-EA-GTWY-7@unisys.com>
To: Kim Dongkyun <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>
Cc: tccc@ieee.org, Chunming Qiao <qiao@computer.org>, ietf@ietf.org,
        manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
Subject: Virus Notification: A virus has been detected in a message in whi
	ch you where a recipient
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 04:27:02 -0600 
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	From:		Wu Jun [SMTP:jwu@ee.cuhk.edu.hk]
	To:		
	Date:		Wed, Jan 03 2001,  3:10:26 AM
	Subject:		Re: Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad
Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001


The message contained 1 virus(es):

	emanuel.exe		infected with the Navidad.16896.Worm virus
- - -


Virus Notification: A virus has been detected in a message in which you
where a recipient!
Check the original message.
If the attachment could not be repaired it was Deleted from the message.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:47:21 2001
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From: Anti-Virus Utility <ANTIGEN_WHQ-MSGRTR-01@pit.comms.marconi.com>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
        "'qiao@computer.org'" <qiao@computer.org>,
        "'ietf@ietf.org'" <ietf@ietf.org>,
        "'manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil'"
	 <manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Antivirus Utility found the W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 05:27:07 -0500 
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Antivirus Utility for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with the
W32/Navidad.e@M virus. The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re:
Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001",
was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at EMAIL/NA1/WHQ-MSGRTR-01.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 06:50:28 2001
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From: ANTIGEN_FIR <ANTIGEN_FIR@sycamorenet.com>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
        "'qiao@computer.org'" <qiao@computer.org>,
        "'ietf@ietf.org'" <ietf@ietf.org>,
        "'manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil'"
	 <manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Antigen found Navidad.16896.Worm virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 05:19:00 -0500 
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Antigen for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with Navidad.16896.Worm
virus.
The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re: Call For Paper : IEEE
Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001", was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at Sycamore Networks/SYCAMORE/FIR.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 07:14:25 2001
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From: Anti-Virus Utility <ANTIGEN_WHQ-MSGRTR-01@pit.comms.marconi.com>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
        "'qiao@computer.org'" <qiao@computer.org>,
        "'ietf@ietf.org'" <ietf@ietf.org>,
        "'manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil'"
	 <manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Antivirus Utility found the W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 05:59:45 -0500 
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Antivirus Utility for Exchange found Emanuel.exe infected with the
W32/Navidad.e@M virus. The file is currently Deleted.  The message, "Re:
Call For Paper : IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN) 2001",
was
sent from Wu Jun  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at EMAIL/NA1/WHQ-MSGRTR-01.


From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil  Wed Jan  3 07:19:27 2001
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From: Anti-Virus Utility <ANTIGEN_WHQ-MSGRTR-01@pit.comms.marconi.com>
To: "'pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr'" <pretty@mmlab.snu.ac.kr>,
        "'tccc@ieee.org'"
	 <tccc@ieee.org>,
        "'qiao@computer.org'" <qiao@computer.org>,
        "'ietf@ietf.org'" <ietf@ietf.org>,
        "'manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil'"
	 <manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Antivirus Utility found the W32/Navidad.e@M virus
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 06:11:56 -0500 
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Dear Colleague,

Please find attached the SPECTS'2001 Call for Papers.

We apologise in advance if you receive multiple copies.

Regards,

Karim Djemame
University of Leeds, UK

=========================================================

Call For Papers

2001 International Symposium on Performance Evaluation of Computer and
Telecommunication Systems
SPECTS 2001
http//www.scs.org/confernc/spects01/spects01cfp.html

July 15-19, 2001
Orlando, Florida, USA

This annual international conference is a forum for professionals
involved in performance evaluation of computer and telecommunication
systems. Evaluation of computer systems and networks is needed at every
stage in the life cycle of the product including design, manufacturing,
sales/purchase, use, upgrade, tuning, etc. The discipline of performance
evaluation has progressed rapidly in the past decade, and it has now
begun to approach maturity. Significant progress has been made in
analytic modeling, simulation, and measurement approaches for
performance evaluation of computer and telecommunication systems.

Topics of interest include, but are not limited to:

Networking and Telecommunication Systems
- Internet Technology
- Quality of Service (QoS)
- DiffServ/IntServ
- TCP
- Unicast and Multicast Routing
- High-Speed Networking
- ATM
- Optical Networks
- Switching Techniques
- Teletraffic
- Satellite Systems and Networks
- Wireless Systems
- UMTS/IMT-2000
- Mobile Networks/Computing
- Multimedia Systems
- Multimedia Communications
- Adaptive Communications
- Network Protocols
- Network Management and Control
- Service and QoS Pricing
- Security and Authentication
- World Wide Web (WWW) Technology
- Electronic Commerce


Computer Systems
- Client/Server
- Microprocessors/Microcomputers
- Memory Systems
- Interconnection Networks
- Software Performance
- Software Evaluation and Testing
- Hardware and Software Monitors
- High-Performance Computing
- Workload and Traffic Characterization
- Scientific Computing Algorithms
- High Performance I/O
- Reconfigurable Computing
- Parallel and Distributed Computing
- Distributed Systems and Agents
- Massively Parallel Systems
- Cluster Computing
- Parallel Algorithms and Languages
- Scheduling Schemes


Tools, Methodologies and Applications
- Parallel and Distributed Simulation
- Verification and Validation
- Performance Tools and Methodologies
- Neural Networks and Fuzzy Logic Applications to High Performance
  Computing/Networking
- Performance Optimization
- Queueing Systems and Networks
- Scalability Studies
- Integrated Modeling and Measurement
- On-Line Performance Adaptation and Tuning
- Process Algebra-Based Models
- Performance Bounds
- Integrated Design and Performance
- New Performance Models
- Mathematical Aspects of Performance
- New Performability Schemes and Models
- Case Studies


General Chair
Mohammad S. Obaidat
Dept. of Computer Science, Monmouth University
W. Long Branch, NJ 07764, USA
Tel +1-732-571-4482
Fax +1-732-263-5202
E-mail: obaidat@monmouth.edu


Program Chair
Franco Davoli
DIST-University of Genoa
Via Opera Pia 13, I-16145 Genoa, Italy
Tel +39-010-353-2732
Fax +39-010-353-2154
E-Mail: franco@dist.unige.it

Vice Program Chairs
Ibrahim Onyuksel
Dept. of Computer Sciences, N. Illinois Univ., USA
E-mail: onyuksel@cs.niu.edu

Raffaele Bolla
DIST-University of Genoa
Via Opera Pia 13, I-16145 Genoa, Italy
E-mail: lelus@dist.unige.it


Industrial Track Chair
J. Fox, BT Laboratories, UK
E-mail: fox.ijcs@btinternet.com

Technical Program Committee

J. Agrawal, University of Missouri-K.C., USA
M. Ajmone Marsan, Politecnico di Torino, Italy
I. Akyildiz, Georgia Tech, USA
H. van As, Vienna University of Technology, Austria
L. G. Birta, University of Ottawa, Canada
N. Boudriga, University of Tunis, Tunisia
H. Cam, University of Arkansas, USA
A. Campbell, Columbia University, USA
H. Diab, American Univ. of Beirut, Lebanon
G. Fodor, Ericsson Radio Systems, Sweden
L. Fratta, Politecnico di Milano, Italy
A. Ganz, University of Massachusetts, USA
E. Gelenbe, University of Central Florida, USA
M. Gerla, UCLA, USA
W. Hahn, University of Passau, Germany
O. Hammami, ENSTA, France
J. Harju, Tampere Univ. of Technology, Finland
H. Hughes, Michigan State University, USA
A. Jajszczyk, Cracow Univ. of Mining/Metallurgy, Poland
H. Karatza, Aristotle University, Greece
D. Kazakos, University of Louisiana, USA
G. Karlsson, KTH, Sweden
U. Killat, TU Hamburg-Harburg, Germany
B. Kraimeche, Steven Institute of Technology, USA
K. Kwiat, Air Force Research Laboratory, USA
T. G. Kim, KAIST, Korea
P. J. Kuehn, University of Stuttgart, Germany
D. C. Lee, USC, USA
A. Lehmann, Univ. der Bundeswehr Muenchen, Germany
L. Lenzini, University of Pisa, Italy
M. T. Liu, Ohio State University, USA
I. Mahgoub, Florida Atlantic University, USA
K. Makki, University of Southwestern Louisiana, USA
S. Makki, RMIT, Australia
K. Malinowski, Warsaw Technical University, Poland
X. Meng, University of Texas - Pan American, USA
H. Mouftah, Queen's University, Canada
F. Neri, Politecnico di Torino, Italy
G. Pacifici, IBM, USA
S. Palazzo, University of Catania, Italy
G. Papadimitriou, Aristotle University, Greece
A. Pattavina, Politecnico di Milano, Italy
K. Pawlikowski, University of Canterbury, New Zealand
S. Pink, Arizona State University, USA
G. Polyzos, AUEB, Greece
R. Puigjaner, Universitat de les Illes Balears, Spain
V. Lagrange M. Reis, Compaq Computers Corp., USA
G. P. Rossi, Universita` di Milano, Italy
I. Rubin, UCLA, USA
D. Schilling, CUNY, USA
C. T. Spracklen, Aberdeen University, UK
T. Suda, UCI, USA
P. Tran-Gia, University of Wuerzburg, Germany
I. Toda, Fujutsu Laboratories Ltd., Japan
K. S. Vastola, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, USA
M. Veeraraghavan, Polytechnic University, USA
M. Villen Altamirano, Telefonica, Spain

International Liaisons
B. Sadoun, Al-Balqa' Applied University, Jordan
Bsadoun@go.com.jo
M. Sawan, Montreal Poly, Canada
Sawan@vlsi.polymtl.ca
N. Tchamov, Tampere Univ. of Technology, Finland
Nikolay@cs.tut.fi
Hiedeki Tode, Osaka Univ., Japan
Tode@ise.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp

Industry Liaisons
Wai Sum lai, AT&T, NJ, USA
E-mail: wlai@att.com

Barani Subbiah, 3Com, USA
E-mail: Barani_Subbiah@3com.com


Publicity Committee
R. Khasawneh, Depaul University, USA. rkhasawneh@cs.depaul.edu
K. Djemame, University of Leeds, UK. karim@scs.leeds.ac.uk
H. Choi, ETRI, Korea, hchoi@pec.etri.re.kr
W. Hahn, University of Passau, Germany, hahn@fmi.uni-passau.de
A. Nusseirat, Al-Isra University, Jordan, anuseirat@firstnet.com.jo

Paper Submission
Submit your complete papers electronically in pdf format to:

http://spects2001.proceedingscentral.com

All required instructions will be posted on this web site. Submissions should 
not exceed 25 double-spaced, 8.5x11 inch pages (including figures, tables, and 
references) in 10-12 point font. Include five to ten keywords, complete postal 
and e-mail addresses, and fax and phone numbers of corresponding author. 
If you have difficulty in electronic submission, contact the Program Chair 
or the Conference Coordinator, Mr. Steve Branch, The Society for Computer 
Simulation International, 4838 Ronson Court, Suite L, San Diego, CA  92111, 
USA, Tel 858-277-3888, Fax 858-277-3930, E-mail sbranch@scs.org 
sbranch@scs.org.

Extended versions of accepted papers in SPECTS 2001 will be considered 
for possible publication in scholarly journals. 
Proposals for tutorials, special and panel sessions should be sent to any of 
the Conference Vice Program Chairs. 
Proposals for industrial sessions should be submitted to the Industrial 
Track Chair or any of the industry liaisons.

For more information regarding presentations or exhibitions at SPECTS 2001 
contact: Mr. Steve Branch at the address shown above.

Deadlines
Submission of Papers - January 31, 2001
Notification of Acceptance - April 22, 2000
Final Camera-Ready Submission - May 22, 2000

Sponsored by The Society for Computer Simulation International.

Professor Mohammad S. Obaidat

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Happy millenium for everybody!

It is not clear whether the question is:

Which protocols function correctly with bi_D links but may not function
correctly in presence of uni_D links?

for example, AODV, DSR, if some amendments are not introduced.

or:

Which protocols function correctly in presence of uni_D links but route
only on bi_D links?

for example FSR, OLSR, TBRPF... 

Added to this issue there is also the issue about the link layer which is
in general bi-D link oriented like in IEEE802.11, Hiperlan, Bluetooth. In
this case routing on bi-D links is mandatory. I don't know uni_D link
oriented MAC but in this case the link control is either unreliable or very
complicated. 
I think DSR has something very complicated in case of uni_D, and some
feature of route caching would probably need to be disabled. In presence of
some uni_D links together with a bi_D MAC there are also serious sources of
flaws. 

Philippe

A 00:08 22/12/00 -0500, Li Li a écrit :
>In the DSR draft, it says "Although many routing protocols operate correctly
>only over bi-directional links, DSR can successfully discover and forward
>packets over paths that contain uni-directional links."
>
>I am interested to know which routing protocols do not work correctly over
>uni-directional links.
>
>For DSR to take advantage of uni-directional links (assume a compatible
>MAC), DSR requires the route request destination do a seperate route
>discovery. Route caching has to be careful to distinguish uni-directional
>and bidirectional links. Are these the complete picture for DSR to factor in
>uni-directional links?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Li
>


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                    CALL FOR PAPERS

Knowledge Discovery and Data Mining in Biological Databases


                    Technical Session of


 The 2001 International Conference on Mathematics and
Engineering Techniques in Medicine and Biological Sciences

                      (METMBS'2001)

    Monte Carlo Resort, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA

                   June 25-28, 2001


http://www.univ-pau.fr/dataweb/conf/metmbs.html

With the development of Molecular Biology in last decades, biological
databases are growing rapidly in volume, number and complexity. On the other
hand, these databases are highly heterogeneous and geographically dispersed.
They represent data from a highly complex domain. A huge volume of
biological data is then available for the discovery and extraction of
knowledge, e.g., new concepts, concept relationships and pertinent patterns,
hidden in these databases. Knowledge Discovery in Databases (KDD) is an
emerging field that deals with such issues. In this field, we combine
techniques from Databases Management, Statistics and Artificial
Intelligence, to discover and extract knowledge from databases. Data mining
is one of the pre-processing steps in KDD process, it is the application of
specific tools for the discovery and extraction of pertinent patterns.
Numerous tools suitable for data mining in Biology are available, however
the selection of an ad hoc tool is non-trivial. Applied in Molecular
Biology, the KDD process should provide for the selection of the appropriate
data mining methods by taking into account both the characteristics of the
biological data and general KDD process requirements.

In our session, we are interested in papers that deal with issues of
knowledge discovery in biological databases, and issues of biological data
mining. We are also interested in papers that deal with the application of
data mining and KDD techniques in biological databases.

Contributions are subject to a possible publication in a special issue
of the "Knowledge Based Systems" Journal (Elsevier Science Amsterdam,
Holland).

INSTRUCTIONS TO AUTHORS
You are invited to submit a hardcopy or a pdf version of a draft paper,
about 4 to 5 pages including figures and references, before March 1, 2001 to
the Technical Session Chair :

 Dr. Mourad Elloumi,

 Mailing Address:
 Cite Intilak bloc 6, app. 7,
 El Menzah 6,
 2091 Tunis,
Tunisia.
Phone: (216 1) 233 253
 Fax: (216 1) 871 032
 E.Mail: Mourad.Elloumi@fsegt.rnu.tn

IMPORTANT DATES
March 1, 2001 (Thursday): Draft papers (about 4 to 5 pages) due
April 2, 2001 (Monday): Notification of acceptance
May 1, 2001 (Tuesday): Camera-Ready papers & Prereg. due
June 25 - 28, 2001: METMBS'2001 Conference




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To add to Philippe's comments below, it may be hard to justify
using unidirectional links except in some special circumstances.

Using unidirectional links could be inefficient. Consider the
network shown below:

   A -----> B ------ C

(A,B) link is unidirectional and (B,C) link is bidirectional.
In this case, it may be difficult for node A to defer to an on-going
transmission from B to C (since A may not hear B due to unidirectional
nature of AB link). Thus, A could try transmitting a packet to B,
while B is busy forwarding the previous packet from A (or busy with
some other transmission).
So, there is a good probability that packets transmitted by A
would not be received by B.

Also, using unidirectional links can aggravate unfairness in
accessing the wireless channel. Again consider the network above.

Let us assume that both nodes A and C want to send packets
to node B. Assume a MAC protocol similar to 802.11.
In this case, when B is receiving packets from A, C can/will
defer to that transmission, allowing the transmission to
complete successfully. On the other hand, transmission from
C to B will often fail due to interference from A (node A does
not know to defer to the C->B transmission).
This could result in a very unfair allocation of bandwidth to
nodes A and C.

Such unfairness can, in fact, occur even when we only use
bi-directional links. However, using unidirectional links
makes the problem worse.

An issue closely related to unfairness is congestion control.
When transmitting on unidirectional links, such as link (A,B),
it might be hard to take into account the level of congestion
at node B, making congestion control at the MAC layer less
effective.

I guess, in special cases, using unidirectional links
may make sense, particularly when no other route is available
(or, as in case of dedicated link, it may be known that the
unidirectional link does not interfere with other transmissions,
so issues of fairness/congestion may go away).

As has been pointed out though, protocols that rely on bidirectional
links should be provided some mechanism to determine which links are
bidirectional.

Cheerio.

- nitin



  >> From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil Thu Jan  4 09:19:43 2001
  >> 
  >> Happy millenium for everybody!
  >> 
  >> It is not clear whether the question is:
  >> 
  >> Which protocols function correctly with bi_D links but may not function
  >> correctly in presence of uni_D links?
  >> 
  >> for example, AODV, DSR, if some amendments are not introduced.
  >> 
  >> or:
  >> 
  >> Which protocols function correctly in presence of uni_D links but route
  >> only on bi_D links?
  >> 
  >> for example FSR, OLSR, TBRPF... 
  >> 
  >> Added to this issue there is also the issue about the link layer which is
  >> in general bi-D link oriented like in IEEE802.11, Hiperlan, Bluetooth. In
  >> this case routing on bi-D links is mandatory. I don't know uni_D link
  >> oriented MAC but in this case the link control is either unreliable or very
  >> complicated. 
  >> I think DSR has something very complicated in case of uni_D, and some
  >> feature of route caching would probably need to be disabled. In presence of
  >> some uni_D links together with a bi_D MAC there are also serious sources of
  >> flaws. 
  >> 
  >> Philippe
  >> 



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For the military application, which is my area of interest, it is very
common (actually highly likely) that links will be unidirectional. The
fact that A can hear B on an HF or UHF radio circuit does not mean that
B can hear A on that circuit. So a path from A to B may be reversed by a
path from B to C and one from C to A. Thus for military users protocols
that work unidirectional are needed and those that work uni- and also
bidirectional are considered to have extra value. Bidirectional only may
be useless.

Kenneth Brayer
The MITRE Corporation/
Air Force Electronic Systems Center
Bedford, MA

Nitin H Vaidya wrote:
> 
> To add to Philippe's comments below, it may be hard to justify
> using unidirectional links except in some special circumstances.
> 
> Using unidirectional links could be inefficient. Consider the
> network shown below:
> 
>    A -----> B ------ C
> 
> (A,B) link is unidirectional and (B,C) link is bidirectional.
> In this case, it may be difficult for node A to defer to an on-going
> transmission from B to C (since A may not hear B due to unidirectional
> nature of AB link). Thus, A could try transmitting a packet to B,
> while B is busy forwarding the previous packet from A (or busy with
> some other transmission).
> So, there is a good probability that packets transmitted by A
> would not be received by B.
> 
> Also, using unidirectional links can aggravate unfairness in
> accessing the wireless channel. Again consider the network above.
> 
> Let us assume that both nodes A and C want to send packets
> to node B. Assume a MAC protocol similar to 802.11.
> In this case, when B is receiving packets from A, C can/will
> defer to that transmission, allowing the transmission to
> complete successfully. On the other hand, transmission from
> C to B will often fail due to interference from A (node A does
> not know to defer to the C->B transmission).
> This could result in a very unfair allocation of bandwidth to
> nodes A and C.
> 
> Such unfairness can, in fact, occur even when we only use
> bi-directional links. However, using unidirectional links
> makes the problem worse.
> 
> An issue closely related to unfairness is congestion control.
> When transmitting on unidirectional links, such as link (A,B),
> it might be hard to take into account the level of congestion
> at node B, making congestion control at the MAC layer less
> effective.
> 
> I guess, in special cases, using unidirectional links
> may make sense, particularly when no other route is available
> (or, as in case of dedicated link, it may be known that the
> unidirectional link does not interfere with other transmissions,
> so issues of fairness/congestion may go away).
> 
> As has been pointed out though, protocols that rely on bidirectional
> links should be provided some mechanism to determine which links are
> bidirectional.
> 
> Cheerio.
> 
> - nitin
> 
>   >> From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil Thu Jan  4 09:19:43 2001
>   >>
>   >> Happy millenium for everybody!
>   >>
>   >> It is not clear whether the question is:
>   >>
>   >> Which protocols function correctly with bi_D links but may not function
>   >> correctly in presence of uni_D links?
>   >>
>   >> for example, AODV, DSR, if some amendments are not introduced.
>   >>
>   >> or:
>   >>
>   >> Which protocols function correctly in presence of uni_D links but route
>   >> only on bi_D links?
>   >>
>   >> for example FSR, OLSR, TBRPF...
>   >>
>   >> Added to this issue there is also the issue about the link layer which is
>   >> in general bi-D link oriented like in IEEE802.11, Hiperlan, Bluetooth. In
>   >> this case routing on bi-D links is mandatory. I don't know uni_D link
>   >> oriented MAC but in this case the link control is either unreliable or very
>   >> complicated.
>   >> I think DSR has something very complicated in case of uni_D, and some
>   >> feature of route caching would probably need to be disabled. In presence of
>   >> some uni_D links together with a bi_D MAC there are also serious sources of
>   >> flaws.
>   >>
>   >> Philippe
>   >>



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  >> From kb@mitre.org Thu Jan  4 11:21:37 2001
  >> 
  >> For the military application, which is my area of interest, it is very
  >> common (actually highly likely) that links will be unidirectional. The
  >> fact that A can hear B on an HF or UHF radio circuit does not mean that
  >> B can hear A on that circuit. So a path from A to B may be reversed by a
  >> path from B to C and one from C to A. Thus for military users protocols
  >> that work unidirectional are needed and those that work uni- and also
  >> bidirectional are considered to have extra value. Bidirectional only may
  >> be useless.

I would agree with that ... when links are highly likley to be
unidirectional, one may not have much choice but to somehow use
them. I guess what may be best is a protocol that works with
both uni- and bi-directional links, but uses bi-directional
links preferentially.

- nitin






  >> 
  >> Kenneth Brayer
  >> The MITRE Corporation/
  >> Air Force Electronic Systems Center
  >> Bedford, MA
  >> 
  >> Nitin H Vaidya wrote:
  >> > 
  >> > To add to Philippe's comments below, it may be hard to justify
  >> > using unidirectional links except in some special circumstances.
  >> > 
  >> > Using unidirectional links could be inefficient. Consider the
  >> > network shown below:
  >> > 
  >> >    A -----> B ------ C
  >> > 
  >> > (A,B) link is unidirectional and (B,C) link is bidirectional.
  >> > In this case, it may be difficult for node A to defer to an on-going
  >> > transmission from B to C (since A may not hear B due to unidirectional
  >> > nature of AB link). Thus, A could try transmitting a packet to B,
  >> > while B is busy forwarding the previous packet from A (or busy with
  >> > some other transmission).
  >> > So, there is a good probability that packets transmitted by A
  >> > would not be received by B.
  >> > 
  >> > Also, using unidirectional links can aggravate unfairness in
  >> > accessing the wireless channel. Again consider the network above.
  >> > 
  >> > Let us assume that both nodes A and C want to send packets
  >> > to node B. Assume a MAC protocol similar to 802.11.
  >> > In this case, when B is receiving packets from A, C can/will
  >> > defer to that transmission, allowing the transmission to
  >> > complete successfully. On the other hand, transmission from
  >> > C to B will often fail due to interference from A (node A does
  >> > not know to defer to the C->B transmission).
  >> > This could result in a very unfair allocation of bandwidth to
  >> > nodes A and C.
  >> > 
  >> > Such unfairness can, in fact, occur even when we only use
  >> > bi-directional links. However, using unidirectional links
  >> > makes the problem worse.
  >> > 
  >> > An issue closely related to unfairness is congestion control.
  >> > When transmitting on unidirectional links, such as link (A,B),
  >> > it might be hard to take into account the level of congestion
  >> > at node B, making congestion control at the MAC layer less
  >> > effective.
  >> > 
  >> > I guess, in special cases, using unidirectional links
  >> > may make sense, particularly when no other route is available
  >> > (or, as in case of dedicated link, it may be known that the
  >> > unidirectional link does not interfere with other transmissions,
  >> > so issues of fairness/congestion may go away).
  >> > 
  >> > As has been pointed out though, protocols that rely on bidirectional
  >> > links should be provided some mechanism to determine which links are
  >> > bidirectional.
  >> > 
  >> > Cheerio.
  >> > 
  >> > - nitin
  >> > 
  >> >   >> From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil Thu Jan  4 09:19:43 2001
  >> >   >>
  >> >   >> Happy millenium for everybody!
  >> >   >>
  >> >   >> It is not clear whether the question is:
  >> >   >>
  >> >   >> Which protocols function correctly with bi_D links but may not function
  >> >   >> correctly in presence of uni_D links?
  >> >   >>
  >> >   >> for example, AODV, DSR, if some amendments are not introduced.
  >> >   >>
  >> >   >> or:
  >> >   >>
  >> >   >> Which protocols function correctly in presence of uni_D links but route
  >> >   >> only on bi_D links?
  >> >   >>
  >> >   >> for example FSR, OLSR, TBRPF...
  >> >   >>
  >> >   >> Added to this issue there is also the issue about the link layer which is
  >> >   >> in general bi-D link oriented like in IEEE802.11, Hiperlan, Bluetooth. In
  >> >   >> this case routing on bi-D links is mandatory. I don't know uni_D link
  >> >   >> oriented MAC but in this case the link control is either unreliable or very
  >> >   >> complicated.
  >> >   >> I think DSR has something very complicated in case of uni_D, and some
  >> >   >> feature of route caching would probably need to be disabled. In presence of
  >> >   >> some uni_D links together with a bi_D MAC there are also serious sources of
  >> >   >> flaws.
  >> >   >>
  >> >   >> Philippe
  >> >   >>
  >> 
  >> 


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Nitin
I agree.
Ken

Nitin H Vaidya wrote:
> 
>   >> From kb@mitre.org Thu Jan  4 11:21:37 2001
>   >>
>   >> For the military application, which is my area of interest, it is very
>   >> common (actually highly likely) that links will be unidirectional. The
>   >> fact that A can hear B on an HF or UHF radio circuit does not mean that
>   >> B can hear A on that circuit. So a path from A to B may be reversed by a
>   >> path from B to C and one from C to A. Thus for military users protocols
>   >> that work unidirectional are needed and those that work uni- and also
>   >> bidirectional are considered to have extra value. Bidirectional only may
>   >> be useless.
> 
> I would agree with that ... when links are highly likley to be
> unidirectional, one may not have much choice but to somehow use
> them. I guess what may be best is a protocol that works with
> both uni- and bi-directional links, but uses bi-directional
> links preferentially.
> 
> - nitin
> 
>   >>
>   >> Kenneth Brayer
>   >> The MITRE Corporation/
>   >> Air Force Electronic Systems Center
>   >> Bedford, MA
>   >>
>   >> Nitin H Vaidya wrote:
>   >> >
>   >> > To add to Philippe's comments below, it may be hard to justify
>   >> > using unidirectional links except in some special circumstances.
>   >> >
>   >> > Using unidirectional links could be inefficient. Consider the
>   >> > network shown below:
>   >> >
>   >> >    A -----> B ------ C
>   >> >
>   >> > (A,B) link is unidirectional and (B,C) link is bidirectional.
>   >> > In this case, it may be difficult for node A to defer to an on-going
>   >> > transmission from B to C (since A may not hear B due to unidirectional
>   >> > nature of AB link). Thus, A could try transmitting a packet to B,
>   >> > while B is busy forwarding the previous packet from A (or busy with
>   >> > some other transmission).
>   >> > So, there is a good probability that packets transmitted by A
>   >> > would not be received by B.
>   >> >
>   >> > Also, using unidirectional links can aggravate unfairness in
>   >> > accessing the wireless channel. Again consider the network above.
>   >> >
>   >> > Let us assume that both nodes A and C want to send packets
>   >> > to node B. Assume a MAC protocol similar to 802.11.
>   >> > In this case, when B is receiving packets from A, C can/will
>   >> > defer to that transmission, allowing the transmission to
>   >> > complete successfully. On the other hand, transmission from
>   >> > C to B will often fail due to interference from A (node A does
>   >> > not know to defer to the C->B transmission).
>   >> > This could result in a very unfair allocation of bandwidth to
>   >> > nodes A and C.
>   >> >
>   >> > Such unfairness can, in fact, occur even when we only use
>   >> > bi-directional links. However, using unidirectional links
>   >> > makes the problem worse.
>   >> >
>   >> > An issue closely related to unfairness is congestion control.
>   >> > When transmitting on unidirectional links, such as link (A,B),
>   >> > it might be hard to take into account the level of congestion
>   >> > at node B, making congestion control at the MAC layer less
>   >> > effective.
>   >> >
>   >> > I guess, in special cases, using unidirectional links
>   >> > may make sense, particularly when no other route is available
>   >> > (or, as in case of dedicated link, it may be known that the
>   >> > unidirectional link does not interfere with other transmissions,
>   >> > so issues of fairness/congestion may go away).
>   >> >
>   >> > As has been pointed out though, protocols that rely on bidirectional
>   >> > links should be provided some mechanism to determine which links are
>   >> > bidirectional.
>   >> >
>   >> > Cheerio.
>   >> >
>   >> > - nitin
>   >> >
>   >> >   >> From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil Thu Jan  4 09:19:43 2001
>   >> >   >>
>   >> >   >> Happy millenium for everybody!
>   >> >   >>
>   >> >   >> It is not clear whether the question is:
>   >> >   >>
>   >> >   >> Which protocols function correctly with bi_D links but may not function
>   >> >   >> correctly in presence of uni_D links?
>   >> >   >>
>   >> >   >> for example, AODV, DSR, if some amendments are not introduced.
>   >> >   >>
>   >> >   >> or:
>   >> >   >>
>   >> >   >> Which protocols function correctly in presence of uni_D links but route
>   >> >   >> only on bi_D links?
>   >> >   >>
>   >> >   >> for example FSR, OLSR, TBRPF...
>   >> >   >>
>   >> >   >> Added to this issue there is also the issue about the link layer which is
>   >> >   >> in general bi-D link oriented like in IEEE802.11, Hiperlan, Bluetooth. In
>   >> >   >> this case routing on bi-D links is mandatory. I don't know uni_D link
>   >> >   >> oriented MAC but in this case the link control is either unreliable or very
>   >> >   >> complicated.
>   >> >   >> I think DSR has something very complicated in case of uni_D, and some
>   >> >   >> feature of route caching would probably need to be disabled. In presence of
>   >> >   >> some uni_D links together with a bi_D MAC there are also serious sources of
>   >> >   >> flaws.
>   >> >   >>
>   >> >   >> Philippe
>   >> >   >>
>   >>
>   >>



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                  CALL FOR SHORT PAPERS ON RECENT RESULTS

                     TERENA Networking Conference 2001
               "Highlighting Advanced Networks and Services"
                               14-17 May 2001
                       http://www.terena/nl/tnc2001/


TERENA is pleased to issue a "Call for Short Papers on Recent Results" to 
be presented at the TERENA Networking Conference 2001, which will be held 
in Antalya, Turkey from 14-17 May 2001.

The "Call for Short Papers on Recent Results" is listed below and is also 
available from the conference web page at:

http://www.terena.nl/tnc2001/cfsp.html

Please feel free to copy this message to others who you think may be 
interested in submitting a paper for the conference.

With best regards,

The TERENA Networking Conference 2001 Programme Committee

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               CALL FOR SHORT PAPERS ON RECENT RESULTS

                  TERENA Networking Conference 2001
            "Highlighting Advanced Networks and Services"
                   14-17 May 2001, Antalya, Turkey
				
                    http://www.terena.nl/tnc2001/
				
               Submission Deadline:  16 February 2001

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The annual TERENA Networking Conferences are prominent events
offering an opportunity to present and discuss technical and
strategic issues related to the provision of networks and services,
and the corresponding research and development activities, within
the research and education community. Bringing together leading
figures from the research networking community in Europe and
worldwide, they provide a unique opportunity for professionals from
research, industry, academia and related government sectors to
learn about the latest developments and plans for the future.

Further information about the conference is available from:

http://www.terena.nl/tnc2001/


Short Papers on Recent Results
==============================

The conference programme will feature a "recent results" session
allocated explicitly to presentations that reflect up-to-date
information about work-in-progress, ongoing research and recent
results. This call for short papers is for participants who were
not able to submit their material before the deadline for full
papers due to ongoing research projects and for those who wish to
announce new results. With less formal papers and presentations,
the "recent result" session provides a forum for debate and
exchange of ideas, and an opportunity to ask questions and give
opinions on topical subjects in research networking.

Short papers are invited on all topics covered by the conference
programme. A list of the main subject areas for the conference
is provided in the "First Announcement", which is available from:

http://www.terena.nl/conf/tnc2001/announce.html

Please do not hesitate to raise uncommon views or any contrasting
opinions to your own which may prompt interesting debate. The papers
selected by the Programme Committee to be presented at the conference
will be allocated approximately 15 - 20 minutes within the session.
It is envisaged that delivery of the presentation will take
approximately 10 minutes, leaving 5-10 minutes for lively discussion
on the issues raised.

The Programme Committee will review short paper submissions and those
selected for presentation in the "recent results" session will be
included in the Book of Abstracts and on-line Conference Proceedings.


Submission Instructions
=======================

Short paper submissions should not exceed 1000 words (or two A4 sides)
in length, and should outline the main theme, results and opinions
of the proposed presentation. All papers must be written in English
and submitted electronically to TERENA by 16 February 2001. Before
submitting, please take care to proof read your paper to check for
typing errors and spelling mistakes. If possible, your paper should
also be proof read by a native English speaker to check it for clarity.

All paper submissions must include the paper title; titles (Mr, Ms, Dr
etc.) and full names of all author(s); organisational affiliation;
and contact postal address, e-mail address, telephone and fax numbers.
If more than one author is listed, please identify one person as the
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All papers must be submitted in electronic format following the
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Conference Publications
=======================

Authors of accepted papers must supply a speaker profile and an
abstract for publication in the Book of Abstracts and their final
paper for publication in the on-line Conference Proceedings by
23 March 2001.


Important Dates
===============

16 February 2001:   Short paper submissions due
5 March 2001:       Notification of acceptance to authors
23 March 2001:      Speaker profiles, abstracts and final papers due


Relevant Contacts
=================

The TERENA Networking Conference 2001 is being organised by TERENA,
the Trans-European Research and Education Networking Association,
and will be hosted by ULAKBIM, the Turkish Academic Network and
Information Center.

Programme Committee Chairman:   Stefano Trumpy
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Programme Committee Secretary:  Carol de Groot
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Conference Organisation:        Bert van Pinxteren
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General Information
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From: "Karthik Ramakrishnan" <kramakri@engmail.uwaterloo.ca>
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HI,
    Does anyone know of/have an implemtation of the DREAM routing protocol
for ad hoc networks? Particularly on the NS platform....

     Would much appreciate any feedback.

Thanx
Karthik.



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  4'th sem MCA
  CUSAT
  KERALA
  INDIA

I am willing to take a seminar on Mobile Adhoc networks as a part of our
curriculam.Can you tell me where I can get materials regarding MANet.
Also in what are the things I should stress in my seminar.
Can you brief me about how to form a MANet for an organisation.

Thanking You
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                       CALL FOR PAPERS
          The 5th World Multi-Conference on SYSTEMICS, 
             CYBERNETICS AND INFORMATICS (SCI 2001)
          Invited Session: Wireless/Mobile Networks
                      July 22-25, 2001
        Orlando, Florida (USA), Sheraton World Resort

The purpose of this call of papers is to  invite  researchers
and practitioners to participate in the   invited     session
Wireless/Mobile Networks. This session is being organized  as
part of the SCI 2001 conference. For information  about   SCI
2001 check  http://www.iiis.org/sci/

SCOPE:
The  primary  focus  of the invited session  is  on  new  and
original research results in the area of wireless and  mobile
networking.  We  invite  you to submit  papers  that  address
novel,   challenging,  and  innovative  results.  The  topics
include, but are not limited to:
  Wireless/Mobile Networks design              
  Ad hoc networks routing
  Multicast in mobile networks            
  QoS in wireless networks
  Wireless networks security

SUBMISSIONS:
Extended abstracts or paper drafts should be sent taking into
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given  above, 2) Paper title, 3) Extended abstract of 500  to
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Hello mohammed shifaz,

--- mohammed shifaz <shifazmohammed@usa.net> wrote:
> From
>   Mohammed shifaz
>   4'th sem MCA
>   CUSAT
>   KERALA
>   INDIA
> 
> I am willing to take a seminar on Mobile Adhoc
> networks as a part of our
> curriculam.Can you tell me where I can get materials
> regarding MANet.

You can get information regarding MANETS from these
books:

Wireless ATM and Ad-Hoc Networks
by C.-K Toh 1st edition (January 15, 1997) 
Kluwer Academic Pub; ISBN: 079239822X 

Ad Hoc Networking
by Charles Perkins (Editor) 1st edition (December 15,
2000) Addison-Wesley Pub Co; ISBN: 0201309769 

You can also get information from the web page of
IETF's MANET working group.

> Also in what are the things I should stress in my
> seminar.

You can start with where and how Adhoc Networking is
different from the traditional Fixed networking. After
that you can discuss various applications of it. You
can then deal with how some of these problems are
solved using new algorithms for MANETS(Use 
documents of http://www.ietf.org. You can also point
towards some of the works going on in this area like
GRID,DREAM,LAR. A nice compendium is kept at the URL
http://lrcwww.epfl.ch/~agarwal/epfl/

Hope u have a nice seminar..



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Hello ns users,

I have a question regarding the simulation results presented in CMU's
MobiCom'98 paper "A performance comparison of multi-hop wireless ad hoc
network routing protocols".  I'm trying run the simulation for DSDV-SQ, DSR,
AODV-LL and TORA as mentioned in the paper and see if the results could be
reproduced.
I'm using ns-allinone-2.1b7 package installed on RedHat Linux 7.0.  So far
the results for DSDV-SQ and DSR are close to those presented in the paper.
However, I CAN'T get the same output for AODV-LL protocol!  I set the
following constants as listed in the paper:

#define AODV_LINK_LAYER_DETECTION

#define MY_ROUTE_TIMEOUT  	600
#define ACTIVE_ROUTE_TIMEOUT 	300
#define REV_ROUTE_LIFE		3
#define BCAST_ID_SAVE		3

#define NETWORK_DIAMETER	50

#define NODE_TRAVERSAL_TIME	0.04

#define HELLO_INTERVAL		1
#define ALLOWED_HELLO_LOSS	3
#define BAD_LINK_LIFETIME	3

#define RREP_WAIT_TIME		6.0
#define LOCAL_REPAIR_WAIT_TIME 0.15
#define MAX_RREQ_TIMEOUT	10.0

#define TTL_START			1
#define TTL_THRESHOLD		7
#define TTL_INCREMENT		2

#define MaxHelloInterval 	( 1.25 * HELLO_INTERVAL )
#define MinHelloInterval 	( 0.75 * HELLO_INTERVAL )

But after a few runs using the same scenarios files and movement pattern
files as used for DSDV-SQ and DSR, at 20m/s max. speed, 0s pause time and 20
CBR sources, the AODV_LL packet delivery ratio value is around 97.2%, BUT
the routing overhead value insists to be around 55489.5, which is an order
of magnitude less than the value of over 120,000 presented in the paper!!!
Even after I changed MY_ROUTE_TIMEOUT to 60 and ACTIVE_ROUTE_TIMEOUT to 50,
the outcome remain the same!  Could someone please give me some help?  How
should I set those parameters to produce the same settings as in the
MobiCom'98 paper?
Your help is sincerely appreciated!

Wang Qiang




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Hello Everybody,

  I am doing an MSc project conerning reliable multicast over ad hoc 
networks. I am wondering if there is a suitable ad hoc network simulator on 
which I can build my own protocol so that I do not have to write it all from 
scratch.

  Thank you very much in advance.

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Subject: RE: MobiCom'98 Paper results
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Hello Wang,

The simulation model of AODV-LL that you are using is not the same as
the one used by the CMU group for their MobiCom98 work. The model
implementation has been improved much over the implementation they
used. Also the protocol specs changed and reflect a later version of
the protocol.

So I am not surprised that you are seeing much less routing overhead.
This probably is due to a better pacing of route discoveries and use
of expanding ring search.

Samir Das


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
> [mailto:owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil]On Behalf Of Wang Qiang
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 9:28 AM
> To: manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
> Subject: MobiCom'98 Paper results
>
>
> Hello ns users,
>
> I have a question regarding the simulation results
> presented in CMU's
> MobiCom'98 paper "A performance comparison of multi-hop
> wireless ad hoc
> network routing protocols".  I'm trying run the simulation
> for DSDV-SQ, DSR,
> AODV-LL and TORA as mentioned in the paper and see if the
> results could be
> reproduced.
> I'm using ns-allinone-2.1b7 package installed on RedHat
> Linux 7.0.  So far
> the results for DSDV-SQ and DSR are close to those
> presented in the paper.
> However, I CAN'T get the same output for AODV-LL protocol!
> I set the
> following constants as listed in the paper:
>
> #define AODV_LINK_LAYER_DETECTION
>
> #define MY_ROUTE_TIMEOUT  	600
> #define ACTIVE_ROUTE_TIMEOUT 	300
> #define REV_ROUTE_LIFE		3
> #define BCAST_ID_SAVE		3
>
> #define NETWORK_DIAMETER	50
>
> #define NODE_TRAVERSAL_TIME	0.04
>
> #define HELLO_INTERVAL		1
> #define ALLOWED_HELLO_LOSS	3
> #define BAD_LINK_LIFETIME	3
>
> #define RREP_WAIT_TIME		6.0
> #define LOCAL_REPAIR_WAIT_TIME 0.15
> #define MAX_RREQ_TIMEOUT	10.0
>
> #define TTL_START			1
> #define TTL_THRESHOLD		7
> #define TTL_INCREMENT		2
>
> #define MaxHelloInterval 	( 1.25 * HELLO_INTERVAL )
> #define MinHelloInterval 	( 0.75 * HELLO_INTERVAL )
>
> But after a few runs using the same scenarios files and
> movement pattern
> files as used for DSDV-SQ and DSR, at 20m/s max. speed, 0s
> pause time and 20
> CBR sources, the AODV_LL packet delivery ratio value is
> around 97.2%, BUT
> the routing overhead value insists to be around 55489.5,
> which is an order
> of magnitude less than the value of over 120,000 presented
> in the paper!!!
> Even after I changed MY_ROUTE_TIMEOUT to 60 and
> ACTIVE_ROUTE_TIMEOUT to 50,
> the outcome remain the same!  Could someone please give me
> some help?  How
> should I set those parameters to produce the same settings as in the
> MobiCom'98 paper?
> Your help is sincerely appreciated!
>
> Wang Qiang
>
>



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Hello Ahmed,

You can use monarch which is extension of ns for 
wireless network you can get the source code from

http://www.monarch.cs.cmu.edu/cmu-ns.html 

The extension has all the popular protocols inbuilt
and it supports WaveLAN-I CSMA/CA MAC as well.

regards,
Hridesh



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Folks,

After re-reading my mail, it occured to me that my message could be
interpreted as suggesting that the original CMU implementation of AODV was
somehow deficient or inaccurate. I didn't mean to suggest that at all.

The AODV code in the current ns-2 distributions performs better than the
original CMU code in many cases because the current code reflects an
improved version of the protocol. As many of you are aware, the protocol has
evolved (and improved) over the last several Internet Drafts.

Sorry for any confusion my post might have caused.

Samir

>Hello Wang,
>
>The simulation model of AODV-LL that you are using is not the same as
>the one used by the CMU group for their MobiCom98 work. The model
>implementation has been improved much over the implementation they
>used. Also the protocol specs changed and reflect a later version of
>the protocol.
>
>So I am not surprised that you are seeing much less routing overhead.
>This probably is due to a better pacing of route discoveries and use
>of expanding ring search.
>
>Samir Das
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
>> [mailto:owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil]On Behalf Of Wang Qiang
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 9:28 AM
>> To: manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
>> Subject: MobiCom'98 Paper results
>>
>>
>> Hello ns users,
>>
>> I have a question regarding the simulation results
>> presented in CMU's
>> MobiCom'98 paper "A performance comparison of multi-hop
>> wireless ad hoc
>> network routing protocols".  I'm trying run the simulation
>> for DSDV-SQ, DSR,
>> AODV-LL and TORA as mentioned in the paper and see if the
>> results could be
>> reproduced.
>> I'm using ns-allinone-2.1b7 package installed on RedHat
>> Linux 7.0.  So far
>> the results for DSDV-SQ and DSR are close to those
>> presented in the paper.
>> However, I CAN'T get the same output for AODV-LL protocol!
>> I set the
>> following constants as listed in the paper:
>>
>> #define AODV_LINK_LAYER_DETECTION
>>
>> #define MY_ROUTE_TIMEOUT  	600
>> #define ACTIVE_ROUTE_TIMEOUT 	300
>> #define REV_ROUTE_LIFE		3
>> #define BCAST_ID_SAVE		3
>>
>> #define NETWORK_DIAMETER	50
>>
>> #define NODE_TRAVERSAL_TIME	0.04
>>
>> #define HELLO_INTERVAL		1
>> #define ALLOWED_HELLO_LOSS	3
>> #define BAD_LINK_LIFETIME	3
>>
>> #define RREP_WAIT_TIME		6.0
>> #define LOCAL_REPAIR_WAIT_TIME 0.15
>> #define MAX_RREQ_TIMEOUT	10.0
>>
>> #define TTL_START			1
>> #define TTL_THRESHOLD		7
>> #define TTL_INCREMENT		2
>>
>> #define MaxHelloInterval 	( 1.25 * HELLO_INTERVAL )
>> #define MinHelloInterval 	( 0.75 * HELLO_INTERVAL )
>>
>> But after a few runs using the same scenarios files and
>> movement pattern
>> files as used for DSDV-SQ and DSR, at 20m/s max. speed, 0s
>> pause time and 20
>> CBR sources, the AODV_LL packet delivery ratio value is
>> around 97.2%, BUT
>> the routing overhead value insists to be around 55489.5,
>> which is an order
>> of magnitude less than the value of over 120,000 presented
>> in the paper!!!
>> Even after I changed MY_ROUTE_TIMEOUT to 60 and
>> ACTIVE_ROUTE_TIMEOUT to 50,
>> the outcome remain the same!  Could someone please give me
>> some help?  How
>> should I set those parameters to produce the same settings as in the
>> MobiCom'98 paper?
>> Your help is sincerely appreciated!
>>
>> Wang Qiang
>>
>>



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           [Apologies if you receive multiple copies.]

                          CALL for PAPERS
                           SPECIAL ISSUE
                       MOBILITY AND INTERNET
                         of  RSRCP Journal
             http://www-r2.u-strasbg.fr/rsrcp/mintcfp.html


The RSRCP  journal, which  is now  specialized on  thematic issues on
Network and Distributed System is pleased to announce a special issue
on "Mobility and  Internet". This special  issue is sponsored by IEEE
Distributed Systems and the French IEEE Computer Chapter.

Wireless mobile access to the Internet will add new dimensions to the
way we access information and communicate. Currently, several network
protocols  are  being  studied  to  maintain communication between  a
mobile  host  and   its   correspondents  during  the  mobile  host's
movements. This  special  issue  is  devoted  to  the presentation of
recent research on  network  protocols and services  for mobile hosts
and wireless communication on the Internet.

We solicit high quality papers reporting original work in theoretical
or experimental  research. Topics  of  interest include, but  are not
limited to the following :

-  Ad hoc networks
-  Cellular IP networks
-  Distributed system aspects of mobile systems
-  Handoffs in IP networks
-  Header compression in wireless networks
-  Hierarchical mobility
-  IP-based third generation mobile and wireless networks
-  Micro-mobility architectures and protocols
-  Multicast communications for mobile hosts
-  Mobility and IPv6
-  Mobile management
-  Network protocols for mobile nodes
-  QoS in a wireless/mobile environment
-  Security and authentication
-  Service location in wireless environnement
-  Wireless LAN

Important dates:
1. Submission deadline: June 30, 2001;
2. Notifications to the authors: September, 30, 2001;
3. Publication : December 2001;

Submissions: Contributions  should  follow the instructions  and  the
format of the journal edited by Hermes.
(see http://www-r2.u-strasbg.fr/rsrcp/authorsguidelines.pdf)

Contributions  should  be original ones and should not be longer than
25  pages. Submissions  should  be  forwarded  to  the  Guest Editors
(rsrcp@clarinet.u-strasbg.fr - PS or PDF format, compressed).

Guest Editors :

            Thomas Noel                          Andras Valko

  Universite Louis Pasteur - LSIIT                Ericsson Research
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        F- 67400 - Illkirch              H-1037 Budapest, Laborc u 1.
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Editorial Board :

Scott Corson                            Francis Dupont
Flarion Technologies                    ENST - Bretagne
USA                                     France

Philip Eardley                          Andras Farago
British Telecom                         University of Texas - Dallas
UK                                      USA

Phil Neumiller                          Thomas Noel
3Com                                    LSIIT
USA                                     France

Hesham Soliman                          Tapio Suihko
Ericsson                                VTT Technical Research Center
Australia                               Finland

C.K. Toh                                Michel Trehel
Georgia Institute of Technology         Universite de Franche-Comte
USA                                     France

Andras Valko
Ericsson Research
Hungary


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Dear All,

Myself and Kesh Bakhru from Cubic Defence Systems are organizing a session
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Dear Colleague,

please have a look at the call for papers for a the Special Issue
of the IEEE Personal Communication Magazine on
"Mobile and Wireless Internet:  Architectures and Protocols"

http://www-tkn.ee.tu-berlin.de/special_issues.html

to be published in the IVth Quarter of 2001,

Submission deadline  June 1st, 2001.


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Nitin: I don't think you should implement LAR (which 
is not a protocol as you claim) with DSR! You clearly
exhibit some form of political bias. 

Is that related to your MobiHOC conference in some 
way or is that related to your paper acceptance? I
realize you publish things related to DSR and AODV -
clearly you are trying to gather "favor" from those
folks/people. 

Does that explain how you get your papers published in

MOBICOM (and you constantly published there) and
your NSF grants too?? Man.. this is bad...

=====================================================
--- Tom Hello <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Oh you (nitin)... About LAR/LAM - there are many
> flaws
> in location based routing. Your original proposal
> does not take into account connection/signal
> propagation properties, just location which is
> wrong.
> None of LAR/LAM have been implemented and tested
> in real systems. You should do it since you started
> it.
> 
> There is too much BS Stuff in this circle.
> I recall AODV - where the heck is the distance
> vector
> being used here?? That was just a twist from the
> DSDV
> protocol which is a table-driven protocol but
> the authors twisted it to change it to on-demand 
> based. There is just not enough good/properly 
> designed protocols and too much BS stuff and
> politics
> too.
> 
> These people need to wake up...
> 
> 
> --- Nitin H Vaidya <vaidya@cs.tamu.edu> wrote:
> > 
> >   >> From: Tom Hello <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com>    
>  
> >  
> >   >> From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil Fri Dec 22
> > 12:43:48 2000
> >   >> 
> >   >> Li Li wrote:
> >   >> >
> >   >> >In the DSR draft, it says "Although many
> > routing
> >   >> >protocols operate correctly
> >   >> >only over bi-directional links, DSR can
> > successfully
> >   >> >discover and forward
> >   >> >packets over paths that contain
> > uni-directional
> >   >> >links."
> >   >> 
> >   >> I don't believe a single word of it. It was
> not
> >   >> even proven!! The DSR draft constantly copys
> > and
> > 
> > I do not recall if they give a formal proof or
> not,
> > but
> > it seemed to me that DSR could work on
> > unidirectional links.
> > Do you have a counter-example (or a "proof") that
> it
> > does not work?
> > 
> >   ...
> >   >> Also, why you are enhancing DSR and not doing
> > your
> >   >> own protocol? One need not have a paper that
> is
> >   >> DSR compliant to get one's paper accepted!!
> > 
> > Huh !?
> > Enhancing an existing protocol is not necessarily
> a
> > bad
> > thing, be it DSR, AODV, TORA, whatever.
> > 
> 
> > Happy holidays.
> > 
> > - nitin
> > 
> > .
> > hoc/ 
> > 
> > Happy holidays.
> > 
> > - nitin
> > 
> > .
> > 
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________
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> Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
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From: Dave Johnson <dbj@cs.rice.edu>
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Subject: Re: DSR/AODV/& BS Stuff 
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Tom,

I've resisted replying to your earlier messages, but I think its time
I joined this discussion.  I think your criticism of Nitin's
publications and NSF grants is quite unfair.  If you have evidence of
actual favoritism toward people who base work on DSR or AODV, please
share it with us; otherwise, your accusations are unfounded and
without merit.

In the paritcular case of people basing their work on DSR, let me
assure you that (as the leader of the Monarch Project that designed
DSR) this adds no special "favor" to the work in my opinion.  On the
contrary, if anything, I think this raises the bar with me for such
work, since I care a lot about the protocol and its future and don't
want "bad" work based on top of DSR.  LAR, however, I believe is good
work, for its stated application and purpose of helping to reduce the
overall routing overhead in the environments for which the protocol
was designed.  Nitin has correctly described the protocol's advantages
and limitations.

And while I'm writing a message to you, let me go back to an earlier
message in which you said "The DSR draft constantly copys and adds
methods from other people to be included in theirs, which is
ridiculous."  Perhaps you could explain what you mean by this.  If
there are methods that you believe we have copied from other people,
please identify them and we will appropriately acknowledge them in
future DSR drafts and papers; otherwise, again, your accusations are
unfounded and without merit.

And further, Tom, perhaps you could give the group a little
information aboutl your own background and activities in the area of
ad hoc networking.  You know all of the other people involved in this
discussion -- through our identifiable email addresses and our names
and other contact information on the published Internet-Drafts and
other papers that you criticize.  In contrast, all that you have
identified yourself so far with is a free (and easily anonymous) Yahoo
email account.

					Dave


>Nitin: I don't think you should implement LAR (which 
>is not a protocol as you claim) with DSR! You clearly
>exhibit some form of political bias. 
>
>Is that related to your MobiHOC conference in some 
>way or is that related to your paper acceptance? I
>realize you publish things related to DSR and AODV -
>clearly you are trying to gather "favor" from those
>folks/people. 
>
>Does that explain how you get your papers published in
>
>MOBICOM (and you constantly published there) and
>your NSF grants too?? Man.. this is bad...
>
>=====================================================
>--- Tom Hello <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Oh you (nitin)... About LAR/LAM - there are many
>> flaws
>> in location based routing. Your original proposal
>> does not take into account connection/signal
>> propagation properties, just location which is
>> wrong.
>> None of LAR/LAM have been implemented and tested
>> in real systems. You should do it since you started
>> it.
>> 
>> There is too much BS Stuff in this circle.
>> I recall AODV - where the heck is the distance
>> vector
>> being used here?? That was just a twist from the
>> DSDV
>> protocol which is a table-driven protocol but
>> the authors twisted it to change it to on-demand 
>> based. There is just not enough good/properly 
>> designed protocols and too much BS stuff and
>> politics
>> too.
>> 
>> These people need to wake up...
>> 
>> 
>> --- Nitin H Vaidya <vaidya@cs.tamu.edu> wrote:
>> > 
>> >   >> From: Tom Hello <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com>    
>>  
>> >  
>> >   >> From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil Fri Dec 22
>> > 12:43:48 2000
>> >   >> 
>> >   >> Li Li wrote:
>> >   >> >
>> >   >> >In the DSR draft, it says "Although many
>> > routing
>> >   >> >protocols operate correctly
>> >   >> >only over bi-directional links, DSR can
>> > successfully
>> >   >> >discover and forward
>> >   >> >packets over paths that contain
>> > uni-directional
>> >   >> >links."
>> >   >> 
>> >   >> I don't believe a single word of it. It was
>> not
>> >   >> even proven!! The DSR draft constantly copys
>> > and
>> > 
>> > I do not recall if they give a formal proof or
>> not,
>> > but
>> > it seemed to me that DSR could work on
>> > unidirectional links.
>> > Do you have a counter-example (or a "proof") that
>> it
>> > does not work?
>> > 
>> >   ...
>> >   >> Also, why you are enhancing DSR and not doing
>> > your
>> >   >> own protocol? One need not have a paper that
>> is
>> >   >> DSR compliant to get one's paper accepted!!
>> > 
>> > Huh !?
>> > Enhancing an existing protocol is not necessarily
>> a
>> > bad
>> > thing, be it DSR, AODV, TORA, whatever.
>> > 
>> 
>> > Happy holidays.
>> > 
>> > - nitin
>> > 
>> > .
>> > hoc/ 
>> > 
>> > Happy holidays.
>> > 
>> > - nitin
>> > 
>> > .
>> > 
>> 
>> 
>> __________________________________________________
>> Do You Yahoo!?
>> Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
>> http://photos.yahoo.com/
>> .
>> u Yahoo!?
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>> http://photos.yahoo.com/
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>> 
>
>
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Hello Tom,

Let me make this point very clear that your comments on DSR and LAR
are unwarranted and biased. You have been constantly criticizing the 
protocols without presenting any substantial facts supporting your
criticism which may suit a urchin but is not a way to behave on a mailing
list on which serious discussions are only invited.

Another fact that I want to make clear is that you seem to be having some
personal grudges against people and not the protocols. Your comments on
nitin's work at least suggests that. You have no rights to comment on any
research work and grant.

If the moderator of this mailing list is listening me I earnestly request 
him/her to call off this unruly, unsavory and unseemly discussion from this
list which I believe is meant only for serious purposes.

I request you to stop this indecency.

Thank You,
Hridesh





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From: Nitin H Vaidya <vaidya@cs.tamu.edu>
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Tom:

I don't think I want to respond to your e-mail below - thanks to
others who have responded already - but here is some information
that is meant to be helpful.

Like many premier conferences today, MobiCom rejects a lot of papers
to maintain quality and due to lack of space in the program
(unlike what you seem to believe, my papers get rejected too).
Don't despair. Now there is one more good forum for MANET papers.

Consider submitting papers to MobiHoc'01, which will focus on
mobile ad hoc networking, and will take place at Long Beach,
California in October 2001. See the web site at
	
	www.cs.ucla.edu/mobihoc

I don't mean to respond to your future e-mails, unless they
become a little more technical.

Best regards, and good luck.

- nitin

P.S. - sorry for advertizing MobiHoc on the slightest possible
       excuse, but that is part of my job this year -:)



  >> From cyberspacetom@yahoo.com Fri Jan 12 22:05:40 2001
  >> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:05:39 -0800 (PST)
  >> From: Tom Hello <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com>
  >> Subject: Re:  DSR/AODV/& BS Stuff
  >> To: Nitin H Vaidya <vaidya@cs.tamu.edu>, manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
  >> MIME-Version: 1.0
  >> 
  >> Nitin: I don't think you should implement LAR (which 
  >> is not a protocol as you claim) with DSR! You clearly
  >> exhibit some form of political bias. 
  >> 
  >> Is that related to your MobiHOC conference in some 
  >> way or is that related to your paper acceptance? I
  >> realize you publish things related to DSR and AODV -
  >> clearly you are trying to gather "favor" from those
  >> folks/people. 
  >> 
  >> Does that explain how you get your papers published in
  >> 
  >> MOBICOM (and you constantly published there) and
  >> your NSF grants too?? Man.. this is bad...
  >> 
  >> =====================================================
  >> --- Tom Hello <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com> wrote:
  >> > Oh you (nitin)... About LAR/LAM - there are many
  >> > flaws
  >> > in location based routing. Your original proposal
  >> > does not take into account connection/signal
  >> > propagation properties, just location which is
  >> > wrong.
  >> > None of LAR/LAM have been implemented and tested
  >> > in real systems. You should do it since you started
  >> > it.
  >> > 
  >> > There is too much BS Stuff in this circle.
  >> > I recall AODV - where the heck is the distance
  >> > vector
  >> > being used here?? That was just a twist from the
  >> > DSDV
  >> > protocol which is a table-driven protocol but
  >> > the authors twisted it to change it to on-demand 
  >> > based. There is just not enough good/properly 
  >> > designed protocols and too much BS stuff and
  >> > politics
  >> > too.
  >> > 
  >> > These people need to wake up...
  >> > 
  >> > 
  >> > --- Nitin H Vaidya <vaidya@cs.tamu.edu> wrote:
  >> > > 
  >> > >   >> From: Tom Hello <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com>    
  >> >  
  >> > >  
  >> > >   >> From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil Fri Dec 22
  >> > > 12:43:48 2000
  >> > >   >> 
  >> > >   >> Li Li wrote:
  >> > >   >> >
  >> > >   >> >In the DSR draft, it says "Although many
  >> > > routing
  >> > >   >> >protocols operate correctly
  >> > >   >> >only over bi-directional links, DSR can
  >> > > successfully
  >> > >   >> >discover and forward
  >> > >   >> >packets over paths that contain
  >> > > uni-directional
  >> > >   >> >links."
  >> > >   >> 
  >> > >   >> I don't believe a single word of it. It was
  >> > not
  >> > >   >> even proven!! The DSR draft constantly copys
  >> > > and
  >> > > 
  >> > > I do not recall if they give a formal proof or
  >> > not,
  >> > > but
  >> > > it seemed to me that DSR could work on
  >> > > unidirectional links.
  >> > > Do you have a counter-example (or a "proof") that
  >> > it
  >> > > does not work?
  >> > > 
  >> > >   ...
  >> > >   >> Also, why you are enhancing DSR and not doing
  >> > > your
  >> > >   >> own protocol? One need not have a paper that
  >> > is
  >> > >   >> DSR compliant to get one's paper accepted!!
  >> > > 
  >> > > Huh !?
  >> > > Enhancing an existing protocol is not necessarily
  >> > a
  >> > > bad
  >> > > thing, be it DSR, AODV, TORA, whatever.
  >> > > 
  >> > 
  >> > > Happy holidays.
  >> > > 
  >> > > - nitin
  >> > > 
  >> > > .
  >> > > hoc/ 
  >> > > 
  >> > > Happy holidays.
  >> > > 
  >> > > - nitin
  >> > > 
  >> > > .
  >> > > 
  >> > 
  >> > 
  >> > __________________________________________________
  >> > Do You Yahoo!?
  >> > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
  >> > http://photos.yahoo.com/
  >> > .
  >> > u Yahoo!?
  >> > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
  >> > http://photos.yahoo.com/
  >> > .
  >> > 
  >> 
  >> 
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  >> Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. 
  >> http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, Rajan, Hridesh (Hridesh) wrote:

> Hello Tom,
> 
> Let me make this point very clear that your comments on DSR and LAR
> are unwarranted and biased. You have been constantly criticizing the 
> protocols without presenting any substantial facts supporting your
> criticism which may suit a urchin but is not a way to behave on a mailing
> list on which serious discussions are only invited.
> 
> Another fact that I want to make clear is that you seem to be having some
> personal grudges against people and not the protocols. Your comments on
> nitin's work at least suggests that. You have no rights to comment on any
> research work and grant.
> 
> If the moderator of this mailing list is listening me I earnestly request 
> him/her to call off this unruly, unsavory and unseemly discussion from this
> list which I believe is meant only for serious purposes.


I also think Tom is stepping too far and his email include too many
personal biased opinions. However, this should not be the reason why
you want to kick him out. Listening negative comments may be a way to make
the mailing list more healthy. If you do not like his email, just punch
"D" key.  Tom has to hit the keyboard many times while you just one. :-))

I can understand why Tom is using yahoo. After all, he is at the risk
of losing friends if he is uncovered. Right?

Kui

> 
> I request you to stop this indecency.
> 
> Thank You,
> Hridesh
> 
> 
> 



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******************** LAST CALL **************************************
Deadline: January 22, 2001
*********************************************************************

Enclosed below please find the Announcement and Call for
Papers for the 7th Annual International Conference on Mobile Computing
and Networking (MobiCom) to be held in Rome, Italy from July 16-21,
2001.

As you might already know, MobiCom has an established reputation as
the pre-eminent conference in this area owing to the exceptionally
high quality of papers, excellent tutorials and workshops, and
stimulating panels conducted by mobile computing illuminati of various
stripes.

For complete information about the upcoming conference, please visit:
    http://www.research.ibm.com/mobicom2001/

A printer friendly version of this CFP is available at:

   http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/~krishna/Mobicom2001-onepagecfp.pdf  (PDF)
   http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/~krishna/Mobicom2001-onepagecfp.ps   (PS)

We apologize if you received multiple copies of this Call for Papers.
Please feel free to distribute it to those who might be interested.

Very truly yours,

ACM SIGMOBILE MobiCom 2001 Organizing Committee

***********************************************************************
		   Announcement and Call for Papers
 
			 *** ACM MobiCom 2001 ***
 
              The Seventh Annual International Conference on
                     Mobile Computing and Networking

		       July 16-21, Rome, Italy

		      Sponsored by ACM SIGMOBILE

	       http://www.research.ibm.com/mobicom2001/
		    http://www.acm.org/sigmobile/

		Submission Deadline: January 22, 2001
***********************************************************************

PAPERS:

Technical papers (maximum 15 pages) describing original, previously
unpublished, completed research, not currently under review by another
conference or journal, are solicited on the following topics:

   * Applications and computing services supporting mobile users
   * Architectures, protocols, and algorithms to cope with mobility,
     limited bandwidth, or intermittent connectivity
   * Database and data management issues in mobile computing
   * Performance of mobile/wireless networks and systems
   * Security and privacy of mobile/wireless systems
   * Interaction between different layers of mobile/wireless systems
   * Integration and interworking of wired and wireless networks
   * Adaptive applications and systems for mobile environments
   * Distributed-system aspects of mobile systems
   * Operating system support for mobility
   * Location-dependent applications
   * Wireless multimedia systems
   * Power management
   * Mobile agents
   * Pervasive computing
   * Wireless sensor networks
   * Wireless/mobile service management and delivery

All papers will be refereed by the program committee. Accepted papers
will be published in the conference proceedings. Papers of particular
merit will be proposed for publication in the ACM/Baltzer Wireless
Networks (WINET) and Mobile Networks and Applications (MONET) journals.

Note: Student Registrations will be provided at a discounted rate.

CHALLENGES SESSION, PANELS, RESEARCH DEMOS, TUTORIALS:

 Short papers (maximum of 8 pages) that challenge the mobile computing
 community with new technologies or visionary applications are
 solicited. Such papers should provide stimulating ideas or visions
 that may open up exciting avenues of mobile computing research.

 Proposals are solicited for panels that examine innovative,
 controversial, or otherwise provocative issues of interest.

 Proposals for tutorials are solicited. Tutorial topics that encompass
 the systems aspects of mobile computing and/or practical experiences
 in building/deploying such systems are of particular interest.

 Informal proposals for research demos are solicited. Proposals should
 include: the focus area in mobility, the technologies involved,
 specific equipment used, demo layout, space required, etc.

 Please refer to the conference website  for submission and other
 details. (The paper submission website is READY for submissions now.) 

IMPORTANT DATES:
 
    * Technical Paper Submissions due: January 22, 2001
          - Please refer to the website for submission instructions

    * Notification of acceptance:     May 1, 2001
    * Camera-ready version due:       May 15, 2001

    * Challenges Session Papers, Panel Proposals, Tutorial Proposals
       Submissions due: January 22, 2001
          - Please refer to the website for submission instructions

 
FOR MORE INFORMATION:
 
 Send email to mobicom2001@winlab.rutgers.edu with any questions or
 comments about the conference or for more information.

ORGANIZING COMMITTEE:
 
    * General Chair:                      * Tutorials Co-Chairs:
 
      Christopher Rose                      Ravi Jain
      Rutgers University, WINLAB            Telcordia Technologies
 
    * General Vice Chair:                   Chiara Petrioli
                                            Politecnico di Milano
      Sergio Palazzo
      Universita` di Catania              * Panels Chair:
 
    * Program Co-Chairs:                    Ramesh Rao
                                            Univ. of California, San Diego
      Mahmoud Naghshineh
      IBM T.J. Watson Research Center     * Local Arrangement Chair:
 
      Michele Zorzi                         Marco Listanti
      Universita` di Ferrara                Universita` di Roma "La Sapienza"
 
    * Finance Chair:   			    Chiara Petrioli
                       			    Politecnico di Milano 
      David B. Johnson 
      Rice University                     

    * Registration Chair:		  * Exhibits/Sponsorships Chair:
 
      Irene Katzela                         Marco Ajmone Marsan
      Lucent Technologies                   Politecnico di Torino
 
    * Publicity Co-Chairs:                * Research Demos Chair: 

      Stefano Basagni			    Nigel Davies          
      Univ. of Texas at Dallas		    Lancaster University  
                                   
      Krishna Sivalingam                  * Steering Committee Chair: 
      Washington State University  	                              
                                            Imrich Chlamtac             
                         		    Univ. of Texas at Dallas    
                                          
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From: Prithwish Basu <pbasu@bu.edu>
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, Rajan, Hridesh (Hridesh) wrote:

> Hello Tom,
  ^^^^^^^^^^

The guy's name reversed, eh? ;-)

All along I had thought that this guy was writing personally targetted
nonsense (as you have mentioned) and was inciting people to reply. Nitin
and Dave replied to his mails graciously and I think his nonsensical mails
didn't warrant replies. Unfortunately, he has been successful in his
efforts by making them reply.. that's what he probably wanted!

I think most people who are subscribed to this newsgroup are serious about
it, and don't want to waste their time reading mails from a guy who
doesn't have the guts to send mails from an identifiable email account.

Tom: if you identify yourself (with affiliation) and write constructive
criticism of the DSR/LAR protocols, then everybody is here to pay
attention. Otherwise, you should go to other appropriate mailing lists or
newsgroups (rec.humor etc.) and post such stuff - most probably people
won't take you seriously there too! Better still, why don't *you* come up
with a protocol which has *no* connection with DSR/AODV/LAR and publish it
in Mobicom / Mobihoc? If it has merit, it will be accepted. Their
deadlines are not yet over! Maybe you yourself can pull together an NSF
grant with your new "Hello" protocol :)

-Prithwish



> Let me make this point very clear that your comments on DSR and LAR
> are unwarranted and biased. You have been constantly criticizing the
> protocols without presenting any substantial facts supporting your
> criticism which may suit a urchin but is not a way to behave on a mailing
> list on which serious discussions are only invited.
>
> Another fact that I want to make clear is that you seem to be having some
> personal grudges against people and not the protocols. Your comments on
> nitin's work at least suggests that. You have no rights to comment on any
> research work and grant.
>
> If the moderator of this mailing list is listening me I earnestly request
> him/her to call off this unruly, unsavory and unseemly discussion from this
> list which I believe is meant only for serious purposes.
>
> I request you to stop this indecency.
>
> Thank You,
> Hridesh
>
>
>

-- 
-Prithwish



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Hello Kui,

My request was not to kick him out without any notice but 
first reprimand him to correct his conduct, and if he does not 
obeys most of the people on this mailing list will like to kick
him out.

regards,
Hridesh

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kui Wu [mailto:wkui@cs.ualberta.ca]
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 10:59 PM
> To: Rajan, Hridesh (Hridesh)
> Cc: 'TomHello<cyberspacetom@yahoo.com>'; 'manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil'
> Subject: Re: Tom's comments
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, Rajan, Hridesh (Hridesh) wrote:
> 
> > Hello Tom,
> > 
> > Let me make this point very clear that your comments on DSR and LAR
> > are unwarranted and biased. You have been constantly 
> criticizing the 
> > protocols without presenting any substantial facts supporting your
> > criticism which may suit a urchin but is not a way to 
> behave on a mailing
> > list on which serious discussions are only invited.
> > 
> > Another fact that I want to make clear is that you seem to 
> be having some
> > personal grudges against people and not the protocols. Your 
> comments on
> > nitin's work at least suggests that. You have no rights to 
> comment on any
> > research work and grant.
> > 
> > If the moderator of this mailing list is listening me I 
> earnestly request 
> > him/her to call off this unruly, unsavory and unseemly 
> discussion from this
> > list which I believe is meant only for serious purposes.
> 
> 
> I also think Tom is stepping too far and his email include too many
> personal biased opinions. However, this should not be the reason why
> you want to kick him out. Listening negative comments may be 
> a way to make
> the mailing list more healthy. If you do not like his email, 
> just punch
> "D" key.  Tom has to hit the keyboard many times while you 
> just one. :-))
> 
> I can understand why Tom is using yahoo. After all, he is at the risk
> of losing friends if he is uncovered. Right?
> 
> Kui
> 
> > 
> > I request you to stop this indecency.
> > 
> > Thank You,
> > Hridesh
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 


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Hello

 I am trying to install the ad-hockey simulator in this page:
http://www.monarch.cs.cmu.edu/cmu-ns.html

I have downloaded and unpacked the file in the following directory:

------------------------------------------------------
ghee@zambezi(107)% ls
README      ad-hockey/  cmu-docs/   install*
ns-2/       otcl/       tclbox/     tkbox/
TclCL/      bin/        gt-itm/     nam-1/
ns-src/     tcl8.0/     tk8.0/      xgraph/
------------------------------------------------------

But when I tried to install the simulator, I got the fialed message:

--------------------------------------------------------
ghee@zambezi% ./install
:

lib -L../tkbox/lib -ltk8.0 -R../tclbox/lib -L../tclbox/lib -ltcl8.0 -R/usr/o
penwin/lib -L/usr/openwin/lib -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -ldl -ldl -lm -ldl
ld: Warning: File ../TclCL/libtclcl.a : is ignored : cannot allocate archive
simbol table
ld: Fatal Error: Library -ltclcl: cannot find
ld: Warning: File../otcl/libotcl.a : is ignored : cannot allocate archive
simbol table
ld: Fatal Error: Library -lotcl: cannot find
ld: Warning: File../tkbox/lib/libtk8.0.a : is ignored : cannot allocate
archive simbol table
ld: Warning: File../tclbox/lib/libtcl8.0.a : is ignored : cannot allocate
archive simbol table
ld: Fatal error: File processing errors. No output written to ns
make: *** [ns] Error 1
Ns make failed! Exiting ...
ghee@zambezi%
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

The installation stopped at this error message:

If you have any idea please kindly indicate me.
Thank you very much.

Regards
Ghee
-------------------------------------------------------------------


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ls<BR>README&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ad-hockey/&nbsp;=20
cmu-docs/&nbsp;&nbsp; install*&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
<BR>ns-2/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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tclbox/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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See the mailing list ns-users@isi.edu. There you will be able to get lot
more stuff. Also try on fro ns2 at the www.isi.edu.

Shailendra
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, wooighee wrote:

> Hello
> 
>  I am trying to install the ad-hockey simulator in this page:
> http://www.monarch.cs.cmu.edu/cmu-ns.html
> 
> I have downloaded and unpacked the file in the following directory:
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> ghee@zambezi(107)% ls
> README      ad-hockey/  cmu-docs/   install*
> ns-2/       otcl/       tclbox/     tkbox/
> TclCL/      bin/        gt-itm/     nam-1/
> ns-src/     tcl8.0/     tk8.0/      xgraph/
> ------------------------------------------------------
> 
> But when I tried to install the simulator, I got the fialed message:
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------
> ghee@zambezi% ./install
> :
> 
> lib -L../tkbox/lib -ltk8.0 -R../tclbox/lib -L../tclbox/lib -ltcl8.0 -R/usr/o
> penwin/lib -L/usr/openwin/lib -lXext -lX11 -lsocket -lnsl -ldl -ldl -lm -ldl
> ld: Warning: File ../TclCL/libtclcl.a : is ignored : cannot allocate archive
> simbol table
> ld: Fatal Error: Library -ltclcl: cannot find
> ld: Warning: File../otcl/libotcl.a : is ignored : cannot allocate archive
> simbol table
> ld: Fatal Error: Library -lotcl: cannot find
> ld: Warning: File../tkbox/lib/libtk8.0.a : is ignored : cannot allocate
> archive simbol table
> ld: Warning: File../tclbox/lib/libtcl8.0.a : is ignored : cannot allocate
> archive simbol table
> ld: Fatal error: File processing errors. No output written to ns
> make: *** [ns] Error 1
> Ns make failed! Exiting ...
> ghee@zambezi%
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> The installation stopped at this error message:
> 
> If you have any idea please kindly indicate me.
> Thank you very much.
> 
> Regards
> Ghee
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 



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At 08:05 PM 1/12/01 -0800, Tom Hello wrote:
>Nitin: I don't think you should implement LAR (which
>is not a protocol as you claim) with DSR! You clearly
>exhibit some form of political bias.
>
>Is that related to your MobiHOC conference in some
>way or is that related to your paper acceptance? I
>realize you publish things related to DSR and AODV -
>clearly you are trying to gather "favor" from those
>folks/people.
>
>Does that explain how you get your papers published in
>
>MOBICOM (and you constantly published there) and
>your NSF grants too?? Man.. this is bad...
>
>=====================================================
>--- Tom Hello <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Oh you (nitin)... About LAR/LAM - there are many
> > flaws
> > in location based routing. Your original proposal
> > does not take into account connection/signal
> > propagation properties, just location which is
> > wrong.
> > None of LAR/LAM have been implemented and tested
> > in real systems. You should do it since you started
> > it.
> >
> > There is too much BS Stuff in this circle.
> > I recall AODV - where the heck is the distance
> > vector
> > being used here?? That was just a twist from the
> > DSDV
> > protocol which is a table-driven protocol but
> > the authors twisted it to change it to on-demand
> > based. There is just not enough good/properly
> > designed protocols and too much BS stuff and
> > politics
> > too.
> >
> > These people need to wake up...
> >
> >
> > --- Nitin H Vaidya <vaidya@cs.tamu.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > >   >> From: Tom Hello <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com>
> >
> > >
> > >   >> From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil Fri Dec 22
> > > 12:43:48 2000
> > >   >>
> > >   >> Li Li wrote:
> > >   >> >
> > >   >> >In the DSR draft, it says "Although many
> > > routing
> > >   >> >protocols operate correctly
> > >   >> >only over bi-directional links, DSR can
> > > successfully
> > >   >> >discover and forward
> > >   >> >packets over paths that contain
> > > uni-directional
> > >   >> >links."
> > >   >>
> > >   >> I don't believe a single word of it. It was
> > not
> > >   >> even proven!! The DSR draft constantly copys
> > > and
> > >
> > > I do not recall if they give a formal proof or
> > not,
> > > but
> > > it seemed to me that DSR could work on
> > > unidirectional links.
> > > Do you have a counter-example (or a "proof") that
> > it
> > > does not work?
> > >
> > >   ...
> > >   >> Also, why you are enhancing DSR and not doing
> > > your
> > >   >> own protocol? One need not have a paper that
> > is
> > >   >> DSR compliant to get one's paper accepted!!
> > >
> > > Huh !?
> > > Enhancing an existing protocol is not necessarily
> > a
> > > bad
> > > thing, be it DSR, AODV, TORA, whatever.
> > >
> >
> > > Happy holidays.
> > >
> > > - nitin
> > >
> > > .
> > > hoc/
> > >
> > > Happy holidays.
> > >
> > > - nitin
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
> > http://photos.yahoo.com/
> > .
> > u Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
> > http://photos.yahoo.com/
> > .
> >
>
>
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Hello folks,

Two small corrections/comments:

First, AODV is supposed to work over uni-directional
links.  A difficulty arises when a RREP cannot traverse
a unidirectional link from which a RREQ was received,
but there is a mechanism defined in later drafts to
handle that case.  There was some discussion about this
point at the last IETF meeting.

Second,

> I recall AODV - where the heck is the distance
> vector being used here??

The route table store distance (number of hops)
and vector (next hop) information.  So that's good
enough to fit my definition anyway.  Is there
something more that is needed to be a distance-vector
protocol?

> That was just a twist from the DSDV protocol
> which is a table-driven protocol but the authors
> twisted it to change it to on-demand based.

If one would substitute "revised" instead of "twisted"
I'd be happy to agree.  Oh, heck, I'll agree anyway :-)

Regards,
Charlie P.


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Is there also a written IETF (or IAB) policy that allows/forbids anonymous postings to the working group mailing lists?  It would certainly seem (IMHO) more professional for posters to identify their real name (and probably their organization/company).

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>>> Joe Macker <macker@itd.nrl.navy.mil> 01/16/01 01:14PM >>>
Inappropriate postings include:

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This is clearly unprofessional commentary beyond the bounds of technical 
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-Joe

At 08:05 PM 1/12/01 -0800, Tom Hello wrote:
>Nitin: I don't think you should implement LAR (which
>is not a protocol as you claim) with DSR! You clearly
>exhibit some form of political bias.
>
>Is that related to your MobiHOC conference in some
>way or is that related to your paper acceptance? I
>realize you publish things related to DSR and AODV -
>clearly you are trying to gather "favor" from those
>folks/people.
>
>Does that explain how you get your papers published in
>
>MOBICOM (and you constantly published there) and
>your NSF grants too?? Man.. this is bad...
>
>=====================================================
>--- Tom Hello <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Oh you (nitin)... About LAR/LAM - there are many
> > flaws
> > in location based routing. Your original proposal
> > does not take into account connection/signal
> > propagation properties, just location which is
> > wrong.
> > None of LAR/LAM have been implemented and tested
> > in real systems. You should do it since you started
> > it.
> >
> > There is too much BS Stuff in this circle.
> > I recall AODV - where the heck is the distance
> > vector
> > being used here?? That was just a twist from the
> > DSDV
> > protocol which is a table-driven protocol but
> > the authors twisted it to change it to on-demand
> > based. There is just not enough good/properly
> > designed protocols and too much BS stuff and
> > politics
> > too.
> >
> > These people need to wake up...
> >
> >
> > --- Nitin H Vaidya <vaidya@cs.tamu.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > >   >> From: Tom Hello <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com>
> >
> > >
> > >   >> From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil Fri Dec 22
> > > 12:43:48 2000
> > >   >>
> > >   >> Li Li wrote:
> > >   >> >
> > >   >> >In the DSR draft, it says "Although many
> > > routing
> > >   >> >protocols operate correctly
> > >   >> >only over bi-directional links, DSR can
> > > successfully
> > >   >> >discover and forward
> > >   >> >packets over paths that contain
> > > uni-directional
> > >   >> >links."
> > >   >>
> > >   >> I don't believe a single word of it. It was
> > not
> > >   >> even proven!! The DSR draft constantly copys
> > > and
> > >
> > > I do not recall if they give a formal proof or
> > not,
> > > but
> > > it seemed to me that DSR could work on
> > > unidirectional links.
> > > Do you have a counter-example (or a "proof") that
> > it
> > > does not work?
> > >
> > >   ...
> > >   >> Also, why you are enhancing DSR and not doing
> > > your
> > >   >> own protocol? One need not have a paper that
> > is
> > >   >> DSR compliant to get one's paper accepted!!
> > >
> > > Huh !?
> > > Enhancing an existing protocol is not necessarily
> > a
> > > bad
> > > thing, be it DSR, AODV, TORA, whatever.
> > >
> >
> > > Happy holidays.
> > >
> > > - nitin
> > >
> > > .
> > > hoc/
> > >
> > > Happy holidays.
> > >
> > > - nitin
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
> > http://photos.yahoo.com/ 
> > .
> > u Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
> > http://photos.yahoo.com/ 
> > .
> >
>
>
>__________________________________________________
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.
>http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ 




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                            Call for Participation

                WORKSHOP ON SOFTWARE ENGINEERING AND MOBILITY

                             co-located with the
      23rd International Conference on Software Engineering (ICSE 2001)
                      http://www.csr.uvic.ca/icse2001/      

            Westin Harbour Castle Hotel, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
                               May 13-14, 2001

                              Workshop Web site:
               http://www.elet.polimi.it/~picco/icse01mobility

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IMPORTANT DATES

March  15, 2001  Electronic submission of the position paper
March  31, 2001  Invitation to the workshop
May 13-14, 2001  Workshop
June    1, 2001  Invitation to submit to ACM TOSEM

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ORGANIZERS

Gruia-Catalin Roman, 
Washington University in Saint Louis, MO, USA, 
E-mail: roman@cs.wustl.edu, WWW: www.cs.wustl.edu/~roman

Gian Pietro Picco,  
Politecnico di Milano, Italy
E-mail: picco@elet.polimi.it, WWW: www.elet.polimi.it/~picco

INVITATION

The goal of this workshop is to examine an important new wave of
technological changes in the computing environment, i.e., the integration
of computing, communication, and mobility.

In traditional computer networks, applications that are permanently located
on the same fixed hosts exchange messages via the standard infrastructure
made of fixed routers and switches. This conventional scenario is being
stretched in two different directions by the introduction of mobility. On
one hand, the physical mobility of hosts is nowadays enabled by the
increasing use of base stations (fixed routers with wireless communication
capabilities) placed at the periphery of the fixed network, to control
message traffic to and from mobile hosts forming a dynamic
fringe. Ultimately, mobile hosts can detach themselves completely from the
fixed infrastructure and may evolve independently of it in a completely
untethered fashion. Such clouds, called mobile ad hoc networks, are
opportunistically formed structures that change rapidly in response to the
movement of the carriers to which the mobile hosts are attached.

Across this highly dynamic physical structure a logical layer still more
fluid is emerging. Code mobility removes the static binding between the
software components of a distributed application and the network hosts
where they are executing. Relocation of such components is then enabled, to
achieve a higher degree of flexibility and customizability, or improved
bandwidth utilization.  More radical views encompass migration of execution
units, mobile agents autonomously performing tasks without requiring
permanent connectivity with the client. Although the interest in code
mobility is being popularized and amplified by the success of the Java
language, the relevance of mobile code is not only technological. This form
of logical mobility has the potential to completely change the way
distributed applications are conceived and deployed, by lifting the
location where a component is executed to the status of first-class design
concept.

Sorting out the software engineering implications of this intriguing and
perplexing wave of technological changes is a nontrivial task. This
Workshop is dedicated to the notion that software engineering must play a
constructive role during these early and exciting phases in the development
of the infrastructure and applications supporting mobile
computing. Researchers are invited to discuss fundamental models, emerging
themes, research opportunities, technological trends, and market forces in
the field of mobile computing and communication.  The immediate objective
is to provide a forum for intellectual debate. The ultimate goal is to
define an influential research agenda for the area as a whole and to
generate advocacy for it by stimulating new research initiatives.

AREAS OF INTEREST

Contributions are sought regarding any research issue specific to (any form
of) mobility, and related to software engineering. Position papers
describing approaches that aim at defining a common ground for physical and
logical mobility are particularly welcome. Topics include, but are not
limited to:

Technology:     * middleware, runtime systems, computing environments  
                * software architectures, design patterns  
                * programming language constructs  
                * algorithms  
Models:         * semantics  
                * specification  
                * verification  
Applications:   * case studies  
                * experience reports  
                * performance comparisons 

PUBLICATION PLANS

All position papers accepted for presentation in the workshop will be
included in the proceedings, distributed to all the workshop attendees and
available for sale to ICSE participants. An electronic version of the
workshop proceedings will be made available on the Web.

Plans call for extended versions of a select set of position papers to be
invited for publication in the ACM Transactions of Software Engineering and
Methodology (TOSEM). The selection will be based on the quality of the
technical presentation, the editorial needs, and the originality of the
material included in the position paper. Paper review and final acceptance
will follow standard TOSEM procedures.

SUBMISSION GUIDELINES

Authors are invited to submit by e-mail a single electronic version of
their position paper to the address mobility@elet.polimi.it. Both
PostScript and PDF formats are acceptable. Submissions must be received by
March 16, 2001. The position paper must be in English, formatted according
to the guidelines for ICSE proceedings, and a maximum of 4 pages long
(exclusive of the cover page).  The cover page must contain: the title; the
authors' names and affiliations; the electronic address for the contact
author; and an abstract of no more than 200 words.

Papers submitted for consideration may be based on previously published
material or papers currently under review, provided that this fact is noted
and a reference to the original material and its publication status is
provided.  Nevertheless, authors should keep in mind that only position
papers that contain original unpublished material will be considered for
the invitation to publish their results in TOSEM.

TRAVEL GRANTS FOR STUDENTS

Pending approval from NSF, travel grants will be made available on a
competitive basis to doctoral students interested in participating to the
workshop. Grants will range from $500 to $1,000.  Requests for travel
grants must be received by March 16, 2001, in the form of a one-page
position statement following the aforementioned submission guidelines. The
cover letter of the position statement should include the expected date of
graduation, as well as the name of the student's advisor.

ORGANIZATION

All authors whose position papers are relevant for the themes of the
workshop will be invited to attend. A special invitation to present a
position paper and lead the related discussions will be extended to authors
whose work and ideas promise to be influential, are thought provoking, or
offer an interesting integration of existing research trends.

The workshop will be organized around a critical evaluation of the ideas
advocated in these position papers. Brief paper presentations will be
followed by moderated plenary discussions. Ample time will be reserved for
in-depth exploration of ideas about the future of mobility and its impact
on the software engineering community.




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Hello,

I am in the process of implementtng AODV for Linux.
I have the following problem :
the draft says (8.8) that whenever a data packet is forwarded to a
destination, the lifetime of the route to that destination is modified
to "Current Time + ACTIVE_ROUTE_TIMEOUT".
While this seems quite straightforward, I find that there are some
problems to implement this, especially when I don't want to modify
existing IP layers.

- either the existing IP layer spies on data traffic and somewhere
updates a field telling at which time it forwarded the last packet to a
destination (if this is done, I'd welcome the information),
- or I have to spy myself on the data traffic, presumably within the
device driver for my network, and thus create a relationship between the
driver and the Routing Algorithm. This is damageable in particular
because the Routing Algorithm becomes dependant on the driver, and it
doesn't seem "clean" to be searching for IP addresses in the driver (we
would be violating the OSI layers).

Does anybody have already met and maybe solved this problem ?

Thanks,

Yves

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Yves:

In Linux, at least, the route cache will be updated when a route is
used.  You can get the route cache info via a netlink socket.

Yves Prelot wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am in the process of implementtng AODV for Linux.
> I have the following problem :
> the draft says (8.8) that whenever a data packet is forwarded to a
> destination, the lifetime of the route to that destination is modified
> to "Current Time + ACTIVE_ROUTE_TIMEOUT".
> While this seems quite straightforward, I find that there are some
> problems to implement this, especially when I don't want to modify
> existing IP layers.
> 
> - either the existing IP layer spies on data traffic and somewhere
> updates a field telling at which time it forwarded the last packet to a
> destination (if this is done, I'd welcome the information),
> - or I have to spy myself on the data traffic, presumably within the
> device driver for my network, and thus create a relationship between the
> driver and the Routing Algorithm. This is damageable in particular
> because the Routing Algorithm becomes dependant on the driver, and it
> doesn't seem "clean" to be searching for IP addresses in the driver (we
> would be violating the OSI layers).
> 
> Does anybody have already met and maybe solved this problem ?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Yves

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Dear Sir,
We are third year Computer Science students at the Indian Institute of
Technology at Kanpur, India, and are presently doing a course on mobile
computing. We are expected to do a project in this regard, and since 
we have become very interested in adhoc networks and the complexities
involved in their implementation, hence we want to base our project on
MANET and related issues.
We would be very much obliged if you could suggest some specific 
directions on which further work on.

Thanking you in anticipation,
Yours sincerely,
Aaditeshwar.




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Maybe these proposals will be inappropriate on this
list, sorry in advance if this is the case.

Maybe they have already been discussed over and over,
sorry again.

First idea:
-----------
How about implementing power control at every mobile
node in an ad-hoc network, in order to keep the number
of neighbors known to this node inferior to a certain
number n, chosen cleverly to achieve reasonable
coverage nonetheless? Maybe this could reduce power
consumption and/or overhead, and reduce it enough to
be worth the corresponding coverage loss.

Second idea:
-------------
How about a "dual" mobile phone, able to switch
between a normal cellphone mode and an ad-hoc mode,
the decision to swich being based, for example, on
maximizing battery life, or minimizing bandwidth
usage? In ad-hoc mode, the phone would use a chain of
other phones not to reach the party called, but to
reach the nearest (or otherwise clerverly chosen) base
station.

Maybe the overhead won't be that bad in this case
since all the phones of a region will try to reach the
same base station.

Natural human selfishness hinders the development of
ad-hoc phones:"Why should my battery power enable
conversations between strangers?"
Switching to ad-hoc mode when doing so saves battery
power (if such a thing is possible) would reverse this
situation and put selfishness on our side.

Of course the hand off decision making and procedure
will get very complicated.

Maybe there are some situations where functioning in
ad-hoc mode would actually reduce the phone's emitting
power [compared to normal cell-phone mode], which is a
good marketing argument for the brain tumor concerned
general public.

And maybe the telecommunication industry would be more
willing to subsidize research in this domain, since
their base stations/infrastructure/services are still
used, so they still can make some money out of it.

There is also a possibility that in crowded areas some
base stations would become useless, the mesh of ad-hoc
enabled phones doing all the work cheaper than they
would. It's a kind of paradox: less base stations
needed in the more crowded areas.

Pushing the concept further the phone could choose
between 3 modes:
**Fully cell-phone
**ad-hoc to reach the nearest base station
**completely ad-hoc (and free, unlimited connection
time in this version)


Such a phone with these 3 options could be targeted
and sold to communities where people usually have a
cell phone anyway, and ususally call parties who are
not too far away:
*University and Company Campuses
*Families
*Ski resorts
...
This would be attractive for them since most of the
communications would be free. Imagine talking to a
friend over the phone: 83% of the last sentence you
said was transmitted in full ad-hoc mode,5 % in semi
ad-hoc mode, and the rest in normal cellphone mode.
Verizon will only bill you for 17% of this sentence. 

I was told that Nextel already offers a phone which
can be used as a talkie-walkie. This is a first step.
I think "3G TR 25.924 ,Opportunity Driven Multiple
Access" deals with a similar idea.

--
Robin


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> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:37:48 -0800 (PST)
> From: Robin Poss <robin_poss@yahoo.com>
> Subject: research topics
> To: manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
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> 
> Maybe these proposals will be inappropriate on this
> list, sorry in advance if this is the case.
> 
> Maybe they have already been discussed over and over,
> sorry again.
> 
> First idea:
> -----------
> How about implementing power control at every mobile
> node in an ad-hoc network, in order to keep the number
> of neighbors known to this node inferior to a certain
> number n, chosen cleverly to achieve reasonable
> coverage nonetheless? Maybe this could reduce power
> consumption and/or overhead, and reduce it enough to
> be worth the corresponding coverage loss.
> 

Good topic. BBN has done some work on this idea. Look at

R. Ramanathan and R. Hain "Topology control using transmit power
adjustment" Proc. IEEE Infocom, 2000 (Tel Aviv)

Or for the larger project of which this is a part, look at
www.ir.bbn.com/projects/dawn/dawn-index.html (badly needs to be
brought up to date, so contact me for details if interested).

This is only the tip of the proverbial iceberg.  There's lots more 
juicy research that can be done in this area.

-Ram.


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Hi,

> > First idea:
> > -----------
> > How about implementing power control at every mobile
> > node in an ad-hoc network, in order to keep the number
> > of neighbors known to this node inferior to a certain
> > number n, chosen cleverly to achieve reasonable
> > coverage nonetheless? Maybe this could reduce power
> > consumption and/or overhead, and reduce it enough to
> > be worth the corresponding coverage loss.

Take a look at the following work:

M. Sanches, P. Manzoni, and Z.J. Haas, "Determination of Critical
Transmission Range in Ad-Hoc Networks," Multiaccess, Mobility and
Teletraffic for Wireless Communications (MMT'99), Venice, Italy, October
6-8, 1999 
(it's on our web page: http://www.ee.cornell.edu/~haas/wnl.html)

Also, Miguel Sanches's work on power control in ad hoc networks.

Zygmunt Haas.
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On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Robin Poss wrote:

> Maybe these proposals will be inappropriate on this
> list, sorry in advance if this is the case.
> 
> Maybe they have already been discussed over and over,
> sorry again.

Another email from Yahoo, but really good points. Hey, who said we should 
limit the domains in this list? 

> Natural human selfishness hinders the development of
> ad-hoc phones:"Why should my battery power enable
> conversations between strangers?"
> Switching to ad-hoc mode when doing so saves battery
> power (if such a thing is possible) would reverse this
> situation and put selfishness on our side.
> 

Saving battery in ad-hoc mode may not be feasible. How about let the
phones serving in ad-hoc mode earn some "points", which can be converted
into money or bonus. :-)). If that is true, I would like to switch my cell
phone in ad-hoc mode.

Kui

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Hi Kui,

> Saving battery in ad-hoc mode may not be feasible. How about let the
> phones serving in ad-hoc mode earn some "points", which can be converted
> into money or bonus. :-)). If that is true, I would like to switch my cell
> phone in ad-hoc mode.

The paper by Jean-Pierre Hubaux in the Mobihoc'00 studied credit-like 
schemes for rewarding nodes that forward traffic in ad hoc networks.
Some very interesting ideas are in that paper, which assumes that the
nodes are not necessarily collaborating.

Zygmunt.
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Kui Wu wrote:

> Saving battery in ad-hoc mode may not be feasible. How about let the
> phones serving in ad-hoc mode earn some "points", which can be converted
> into money or bonus. :-)). If that is true, I would like to switch my cell
> phone in ad-hoc mode.
>

The terminodes project (www.terminodes.org) is exploring incentives for
collaboration in ad-hoc networks. In their paper, "Towards Mobile Ad-Hoc WANS:
Terminodes", there is a description of a terminode currency called nuggets which
can be exchanged using various models to enable packet forwarding. Robert
Axelrod's TIT-FOR-TAT strategy also seems useful in this context.

...brian



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>>>>> "Robin" == Robin Poss <robin_poss@yahoo.com> writes:


    Robin> First idea: ----------- How about implementing power
    Robin> control at every mobile node in an ad-hoc network, in
    Robin> order to keep the number of neighbors known to this
    Robin> node inferior to a certain number n, chosen cleverly
    Robin> to achieve reasonable coverage nonetheless? Maybe
    Robin> this could reduce power consumption and/or overhead,
    Robin> and reduce it enough to be worth the corresponding
    Robin> coverage loss.


This has been discussed quite a few times. Nick Bambos (now at
Stanford) had published on this topic 
as well.

    Robin> Second idea: ------------- How about a "dual" mobile
    Robin> phone, able to switch between a normal cellphone mode
    Robin> and an ad-hoc mode, the decision to swich being
    Robin> based, for example, on maximizing battery life, or
    Robin> minimizing bandwidth usage? In ad-hoc mode, the phone
    Robin> would use a chain of other phones not to reach the
    Robin> party called, but to reach the nearest (or otherwise
    Robin> clerverly chosen) base station.


802.11b has this support built-in when used in ad-hoc mode as
    well as Metricom ricochet modems (first gen at least).

Bora



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Hi ...

Robin Poss wrote:
> Second idea:
> -------------
> How about a "dual" mobile phone, able to switch
> between a normal cellphone mode and an ad-hoc mode,
> the decision to swich being based, for example, on
> maximizing battery life, or minimizing bandwidth
> usage? In ad-hoc mode, the phone would use a chain of
> other phones not to reach the party called, but to
> reach the nearest (or otherwise clerverly chosen) base
> station.

We are currently trying to implement such a solution based on bluetooth
enabled cellphones. Unfortunately the needed equipment is rather
difficult to obtain esp. as manufacturers are quite anxious about giving
development kids of their cellphone software to others.

Our basic idea is a phone that uses ad-hoc technology, if a partner is
reachable via the ad-hoc network. In case of a reachable telephony
gateway in the network (either IP telephony or POTS) this can be used
(which is usually much cheaper than the GSM service). Finally there's a
fallback to GSM.

The main obstacles we have identified so far:
- power consumption of phones in ad-hoc mode (as you said)
- security considerations (routing calls through other phones)
- GSM service provider won't be to eager to deploy such a solution as
this would diminish their profit.

We'll try to publish details of our work as soon as prototypes and
results are working.

Regards ... Frank

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>
>     Robin> First idea: ----------- How about implementing power
>     Robin> control at every mobile node in an ad-hoc network, in
>     Robin> order to keep the number of neighbors known to this
>     Robin> node inferior to a certain number n, chosen cleverly
>     Robin> to achieve reasonable coverage nonetheless? Maybe
>     Robin> this could reduce power consumption and/or overhead,
>     Robin> and reduce it enough to be worth the corresponding
>     Robin> coverage loss.
>
> This has been discussed quite a few times. Nick Bambos (now at
> Stanford) had published on this topic
> as well.

Yes, there has been work done in this domain from several different angles:
1) Utalizing a greater number of intermediate hops such that significantly
less power is required at each transmission.

R. Ramanathan and R. Hain "Topology control using transmit power
adjustment" Proc. IEEE Infocom, 2000 (Tel Aviv)

R. Wattenhofer, L. Li, P. Bahl, and Y. Wang, "Ditributed Topology Control
for Power Efficient Operation in Multihop Wireless Ad Hoc Networks", To
appear in INFOCOM 2001.


2) Minimizing the TX power to that needed to reach the intended destination

a) For maximizing spectral reuse

S.-L. Wu, Y.-C. Tseng, and J.-P. Sheu, "Intelligent Medium Access
for Mobile Ad Hoc Networks with Busy Tones and Power Control," IEEE Journal
on Selected Areas in Communications, Vol. 18, September 2000, pp.
1647-57.

J. Monks, V. Bharghavan, and W. Hwu, "A Power Controlled Multiple Access
Protocol for Wireless Packet Networks," To appear in INFOCOM 2001.

b) For Energy efficiency

J. Ebert, B. Stremmel, E. Weiderhold, and A. Wolisz, "An Energy-efficient
Power Control Approach for WLANs," IEEE Journal Of Communications and
Networks, Vol. 18, September 2000.

There are quite a few others too and there are still opportunities for
additional work in this area.
>
>     Robin> Second idea: ------------- How about a "dual" mobile
>     Robin> phone, able to switch between a normal cellphone mode
>     Robin> and an ad-hoc mode, the decision to swich being
>     Robin> based, for example, on maximizing battery life, or
>     Robin> minimizing bandwidth usage? In ad-hoc mode, the phone
>     Robin> would use a chain of other phones not to reach the
>     Robin> party called, but to reach the nearest (or otherwise
>     Robin> clerverly chosen) base station.
>
>
> 802.11b has this support built-in when used in ad-hoc mode as
>     well as Metricom ricochet modems (first gen at least).

True, 802.11 has support for both communicating with a single base station
and ad hoc mode.  However, I think this falls far short of what is covered
by this topic.  802.11 would require a significant amount of provisioning
and added mechanisms to be able to support this dual mode in a way that
would provide benefits in coverage and extended battery life.  In addition,
802.11 uses a shared channel paradigm and this type of implementation would
really require two separate channels (one devoted to each mode) such that
the mechanisms in each mode do not conflict (if they are to be used
together).  Otherwise, the longer range cellular communication would
interfere with the short ranged ad hoc communications.  I'm not as familiar
with the Ricochet modems, but I don't believe they used a combination of
base station mode (for lack of a better term) and ad hoc mode.  I know there
are several people (both academic and industry) who are currently doing
research in this area and I have thought that it was an interesting area for
quite some time.  I guess you could kind of think of a cell phone with a
Bluetooth transmitter/receiver as a rudimentary form of dual base station/ad
hoc mode device though it (like 802.11) does not (currently) adaptively use
the two environment to manage the wireless resource and its energy reserves.
This is where there is still a great deal of interesting research to be done
in this domain.

Robin> I was told that Nextel already offers a phone which
Robin> can be used as a talkie-walkie. This is a first step.
Actually, from what I understood talking to some guys from Motorola was that
these devices still communicate through the cellular base stations.  They
only simplify the communication by reducing the signaling overhead since it
sends individual data frames without first making a request and waiting for
the accept and the frames stay on a single operators network (i.e. they are
not switched onto the PSTN).

Robin> I think "3G TR 25.924 ,Opportunity Driven Multiple
Robin> Access" deals with a similar idea.
Hmmm not sure about this one.

-Jeff





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Bora Akyol wrote:
> 
> >>>>> "Robin" == Robin Poss <robin_poss@yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> 
>     Robin> Second idea: ------------- How about a "dual" mobile
>     Robin> phone, able to switch between a normal cellphone mode
>     Robin> and an ad-hoc mode, the decision to swich being
>     Robin> based, for example, on maximizing battery life, or
>     Robin> minimizing bandwidth usage? In ad-hoc mode, the phone
>     Robin> would use a chain of other phones not to reach the
>     Robin> party called, but to reach the nearest (or otherwise
>     Robin> clerverly chosen) base station.
> 
> 802.11b has this support built-in when used in ad-hoc mode...

Could you please elaborate on this?  I have the IEEE 802.11 standard,
and I don't see this capability described.  My version is a few years
old.  Do I need to get the most recent version?  Could you please
provide some more details on where we can find a description of this
capability in 802.11.  Has anyone implemented it?

Duncan Thomson
Sr. Technical Advisor
Network and Communications Engineering
The MITRE Corp.



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Hi,

We are planning to make some experiments with GPS. Does anyone has
some pointers about using GPS cards on laptops ? Do you know suitable
equipment, are there any pcmcia GPS cards ?

Thanks for e-mailing me some pointers.

Best regards,

laurent



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Afaik, 802.11 (a or b) has no such feature. Ad-hoc mode in 802.11 simply
means peer to peer communication with other nodes in the same BSS
(essentially confined to a single layer 2 segment). Multihop communication
would require something above 802.11

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Bora Akyol wrote:
>
> >>>>> "Robin" == Robin Poss <robin_poss@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>
>     Robin> Second idea: ------------- How about a "dual" mobile
>     Robin> phone, able to switch between a normal cellphone mode
>     Robin> and an ad-hoc mode, the decision to swich being
>     Robin> based, for example, on maximizing battery life, or
>     Robin> minimizing bandwidth usage? In ad-hoc mode, the phone
>     Robin> would use a chain of other phones not to reach the
>     Robin> party called, but to reach the nearest (or otherwise
>     Robin> clerverly chosen) base station.
>
> 802.11b has this support built-in when used in ad-hoc mode...

Could you please elaborate on this?  I have the IEEE 802.11 standard,
and I don't see this capability described.  My version is a few years
old.  Do I need to get the most recent version?  Could you please
provide some more details on where we can find a description of this
capability in 802.11.  Has anyone implemented it?

Duncan Thomson
Sr. Technical Advisor
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brian raymor wrote:

> Kui Wu wrote:
>
> > Saving battery in ad-hoc mode may not be feasible. How about let the
> > phones serving in ad-hoc mode earn some "points", which can be converted
> > into money or bonus. :-)). If that is true, I would like to switch my cell
> > phone in ad-hoc mode.
> >
>
> The terminodes project (www.terminodes.org) is exploring incentives for
> collaboration in ad-hoc networks.

chiming in with brian...
from a somewhat different field, there's mojonation in which users gain
'mojo currency' as they offer resources to the network:

       http://www.mojonation.net/docs/technical_overview.shtml

-gabriel



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JOE:

GIVE ME A BREAK! IETF IS ABOUT ADDRESSING
TECHNICAL ISSUE & I DID HIGHLIGHT TECHNICAL
ISSUES OF DSR AND LAR BUT AUTHORS DO NOT
ADDRESS THEM. THIS COUNTRY IS ABOUT 
FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND IF PEOPLE CANNOT
ACCEPT COMMENTS, THEY CANNOT IMPROVE.
IF YOU HAVE AN ATTITUDE OF SHUTTING
PEOPLE OUT, THEN YOU ARE BETTER OFF IN
THE ARMY. YOU ALSO STAIN THE SPIRIT OF
INTERNET AND RESEARCH.

I RECKON YOU MAKE SO GOOD PROGRESS IN
IETF MEETINGS AND ALSO TRY TO BE AS 
FAIR AS POSSIBLE TO ALL PRESENTERS IN
THOSE MEETINGS, WHETHER THEY ARE
DSR/TORA or AODV COMPLIANT!

TOM

--- Joe Macker <macker@itd.nrl.navy.mil> wrote:
> Inappropriate postings include:
> 
> Unsolicited bulk e-mail Discussion of subjects
> unrelated to IETF policy, 
> meetings, activities, or technical concerns
> Unprofessional commentary, 
> regardless of the general subject.
> 
> This is clearly unprofessional commentary beyond the
> bounds of technical 
> concerns.
> 
> -Joe
> 
> At 08:05 PM 1/12/01 -0800, Tom Hello wrote:
> >Nitin: I don't think you should implement LAR
> (which
> >is not a protocol as you claim) with DSR! You
> clearly
> >exhibit some form of political bias.
> >
> >Is that related to your MobiHOC conference in some
> >way or is that related to your paper acceptance? I
> >realize you publish things related to DSR and AODV
> -
> >clearly you are trying to gather "favor" from those
> >folks/people.
> >
> >Does that explain how you get your papers published
> in
> >
> >MOBICOM (and you constantly published there) and
> >your NSF grants too?? Man.. this is bad...
> >
>
>=====================================================
> >--- Tom Hello <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Oh you (nitin)... About LAR/LAM - there are many
> > > flaws
> > > in location based routing. Your original
> proposal
> > > does not take into account connection/signal
> > > propagation properties, just location which is
> > > wrong.
> > > None of LAR/LAM have been implemented and tested
> > > in real systems. You should do it since you
> started
> > > it.
> > >
> > > There is too much BS Stuff in this circle.
> > > I recall AODV - where the heck is the distance
> > > vector
> > > being used here?? That was just a twist from the
> > > DSDV
> > > protocol which is a table-driven protocol but
> > > the authors twisted it to change it to on-demand
> > > based. There is just not enough good/properly
> > > designed protocols and too much BS stuff and
> > > politics
> > > too.
> > >
> > > These people need to wake up...
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Nitin H Vaidya <vaidya@cs.tamu.edu> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >   >> From: Tom Hello <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com>
> > >
> > > >
> > > >   >> From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil Fri Dec
> 22
> > > > 12:43:48 2000
> > > >   >>
> > > >   >> Li Li wrote:
> > > >   >> >
> > > >   >> >In the DSR draft, it says "Although many
> > > > routing
> > > >   >> >protocols operate correctly
> > > >   >> >only over bi-directional links, DSR can
> > > > successfully
> > > >   >> >discover and forward
> > > >   >> >packets over paths that contain
> > > > uni-directional
> > > >   >> >links."
> > > >   >>
> > > >   >> I don't believe a single word of it. It
> was
> > > not
> > > >   >> even proven!! The DSR draft constantly
> copys
> > > > and
> > > >
> > > > I do not recall if they give a formal proof or
> > > not,
> > > > but
> > > > it seemed to me that DSR could work on
> > > > unidirectional links.
> > > > Do you have a counter-example (or a "proof")
> that
> > > it
> > > > does not work?
> > > >
> > > >   ...
> > > >   >> Also, why you are enhancing DSR and not
> doing
> > > > your
> > > >   >> own protocol? One need not have a paper
> that
> > > is
> > > >   >> DSR compliant to get one's paper
> accepted!!
> > > >
> > > > Huh !?
> > > > Enhancing an existing protocol is not
> necessarily
> > > a
> > > > bad
> > > > thing, be it DSR, AODV, TORA, whatever.
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Happy holidays.
> > > >
> > > > - nitin
> > > >
> > > > .
> > > > hoc/
> > > >
> > > > Happy holidays.
> > > >
> > > > - nitin
> > > >
> > > > .
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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RAJAN: YOU ARE TAKING IT TOO PERSONAL I TALKED ABOUT
LAR PROBLEMS & NOTHING PERSONAL ABOUT NITIN
PERSONALITY. I HIGHLIGHTED BIAS TOWARDS DSR IN HIS
WORK AND THIS IS CLEAR FROM HIS RESEARCH &
PUBLICATIONS. IF YOU WANT TO SUPPORT HIM, PLEASE
PRESENT A COUNTERPROOF THAT HE DID NOT WORK ON
DSR AT ALL. ALSO, THIS IS THE FORUM DISCUSSION
ABOUT AD HOC WORK AND ALSO RESEARCH PUBLICATIONS
ON AD HOC. VERY APPROPRIATE. YOU CANNOT BEHAVE
LIKE A DICTATOR! I WONDER WHO WILL SUPPORT YOU
IF YOU BEHAVE LIKE THAT..

--- "Rajan, Hridesh (Hridesh)" <hridesh@lucent.com>
wrote:
> Hello Tom,
> 
> Let me make this point very clear that your comments
> on DSR and LAR
> are unwarranted and biased. You have been constantly
> criticizing the 
> protocols without presenting any substantial facts
> supporting your
> criticism which may suit a urchin but is not a way
> to behave on a mailing
> list on which serious discussions are only invited.
> 
> Another fact that I want to make clear is that you
> seem to be having some
> personal grudges against people and not the
> protocols. Your comments on
> nitin's work at least suggests that. You have no
> rights to comment on any
> research work and grant.
> 
> If the moderator of this mailing list is listening
> me I earnestly request 
> him/her to call off this unruly, unsavory and
> unseemly discussion from this
> list which I believe is meant only for serious
> purposes.
> 
> I request you to stop this indecency.
> 
> Thank You,
> Hridesh
> 
> 
> 


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WHY NOT?? WHY DO YOU SHY AWAY FROM TRUTHS
ABOUT YOUR CONFERENCE PUBLICATIONS AND
ALSO YOUR TECHNQIUE OF WORKING ON DSR
AND AODV?

SECONDLY - WHY DID YOU NOT ADDRESS THE 
SHORTCOMINGS OF LAR INSTEAD OF PUSHING 
TO AN EXCUSE OF LAR NOT BEING A PROTOCOL??

BE PROFESSIONAL. ANSWER THIS TECHNICAL ISSUE.

===


--- Nitin H Vaidya <vaidya@cs.tamu.edu> wrote:
> 
> Tom:
> 
> I don't think I want to respond to your e-mail below
> - thanks to
> others who have responded already - but here is some
> information
> that is meant to be helpful.
> 
> Like many premier conferences today, MobiCom rejects
> a lot of papers
> to maintain quality and due to lack of space in the
> program
> (unlike what you seem to believe, my papers get
> rejected too).
> Don't despair. Now there is one more good forum for
> MANET papers.
> 
> Consider submitting papers to MobiHoc'01, which will
> focus on
> mobile ad hoc networking, and will take place at
> Long Beach,
> California in October 2001. See the web site at
> 	
> 	www.cs.ucla.edu/mobihoc
> 
> I don't mean to respond to your future e-mails,
> unless they
> become a little more technical.
> 
> Best regards, and good luck.
> 
> - nitin
> 
> P.S. - sorry for advertizing MobiHoc on the
> slightest possible
>        excuse, but that is part of my job this year
> -:)
> 
> 
> 
>   >> From cyberspacetom@yahoo.com Fri Jan 12
> 22:05:40 2001
>   >> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:05:39 -0800 (PST)
>   >> From: Tom Hello <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com>
>   >> Subject: Re:  DSR/AODV/& BS Stuff
>   >> To: Nitin H Vaidya <vaidya@cs.tamu.edu>,
> manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
>   >> MIME-Version: 1.0
>   >> 
>   >> Nitin: I don't think you should implement LAR
> (which 
>   >> is not a protocol as you claim) with DSR! You
> clearly
>   >> exhibit some form of political bias. 
>   >> 
>   >> Is that related to your MobiHOC conference in
> some 
>   >> way or is that related to your paper
> acceptance? I
>   >> realize you publish things related to DSR and
> AODV -
>   >> clearly you are trying to gather "favor" from
> those
>   >> folks/people. 
>   >> 
>   >> Does that explain how you get your papers
> published in
>   >> 
>   >> MOBICOM (and you constantly published there)
> and
>   >> your NSF grants too?? Man.. this is bad...
>   >> 
>   >>
>
=====================================================
>   >> --- Tom Hello <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com> wrote:
>   >> > Oh you (nitin)... About LAR/LAM - there are
> many
>   >> > flaws
>   >> > in location based routing. Your original
> proposal
>   >> > does not take into account connection/signal
>   >> > propagation properties, just location which
> is
>   >> > wrong.
>   >> > None of LAR/LAM have been implemented and
> tested
>   >> > in real systems. You should do it since you
> started
>   >> > it.
>   >> > 
>   >> > There is too much BS Stuff in this circle.
>   >> > I recall AODV - where the heck is the
> distance
>   >> > vector
>   >> > being used here?? That was just a twist from
> the
>   >> > DSDV
>   >> > protocol which is a table-driven protocol but
>   >> > the authors twisted it to change it to
> on-demand 
>   >> > based. There is just not enough good/properly
> 
>   >> > designed protocols and too much BS stuff and
>   >> > politics
>   >> > too.
>   >> > 
>   >> > These people need to wake up...
>   >> > 
>   >> > 
>   >> > --- Nitin H Vaidya <vaidya@cs.tamu.edu>
> wrote:
>   >> > > 
>   >> > >   >> From: Tom Hello
> <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com>    
>   >> >  
>   >> > >  
>   >> > >   >> From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil Fri
> Dec 22
>   >> > > 12:43:48 2000
>   >> > >   >> 
>   >> > >   >> Li Li wrote:
>   >> > >   >> >
>   >> > >   >> >In the DSR draft, it says "Although
> many
>   >> > > routing
>   >> > >   >> >protocols operate correctly
>   >> > >   >> >only over bi-directional links, DSR
> can
>   >> > > successfully
>   >> > >   >> >discover and forward
>   >> > >   >> >packets over paths that contain
>   >> > > uni-directional
>   >> > >   >> >links."
>   >> > >   >> 
>   >> > >   >> I don't believe a single word of it.
> It was
>   >> > not
>   >> > >   >> even proven!! The DSR draft constantly
> copys
>   >> > > and
>   >> > > 
>   >> > > I do not recall if they give a formal proof
> or
>   >> > not,
>   >> > > but
>   >> > > it seemed to me that DSR could work on
>   >> > > unidirectional links.
>   >> > > Do you have a counter-example (or a
> "proof") that
>   >> > it
>   >> > > does not work?
>   >> > > 
>   >> > >   ...
>   >> > >   >> Also, why you are enhancing DSR and
> not doing
>   >> > > your
>   >> > >   >> own protocol? One need not have a
> paper that
>   >> > is
>   >> > >   >> DSR compliant to get one's paper
> accepted!!
>   >> > > 
>   >> > > Huh !?
>   >> > > Enhancing an existing protocol is not
> necessarily
>   >> > a
>   >> > > bad
>   >> > > thing, be it DSR, AODV, TORA, whatever.
>   >> > > 
>   >> > 
>   >> > > Happy holidays.
>   >> > > 
>   >> > > - nitin
>   >> > > 
>   >> > > .
>   >> > > hoc/ 
>   >> > > 
>   >> > > Happy holidays.
>   >> > > 
>   >> > > - nitin
>   >> > > 
>   >> > > .
>   >> > > 
>   >> > 
>   >> > 
>   >> >
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--- Dave Johnson <dbj@cs.rice.edu> wrote:
> Tom,
> 
> I've resisted replying to your earlier messages, but
> I think its time
> I joined this discussion.  I think your criticism of
> Nitin's
> publications and NSF grants is quite unfair.  If you
> have evidence of
> actual favoritism toward people who base work on DSR
> or AODV, please
> share it with us; otherwise, your accusations are
> unfounded and
> without merit.
>=============
Oh yes, I do. I think it is clear to people in
this community that you and another guy specifically
make it hard for people who do not support your
protocol. In terms of publications, it is very
clear too. 


> 
> In the paritcular case of people basing their work
> on DSR, let me
> assure you that (as the leader of the Monarch
> Project that designed
> DSR) this adds no special "favor" to the work in my
> opinion.  On the
> contrary, if anything, I think this raises the bar
> with me for such
> work, since I care a lot about the protocol and its
> future and don't
> want "bad" work based on top of DSR.  

That is one problem of you. Instead of being 
objective and open to other NEW and GOOD protocols,
you hammer them just because they are not
DSR compliant. I think that is not a wise move
at all. You cannot force people to accept you
protocol just because of your position at
a special interest group or in a conference.

>LAR, however,
> I believe is good
> work, for its stated application and purpose of
> helping to reduce the
> overall routing overhead in the environments for
> which the protocol
> was designed.  Nitin has correctly described the
> protocol's advantages
> and limitations.

No he did not! In fact, he shy away from the
truth limitations of location based routing.
As I have said, LAR did not consider signal
connectivity - plain location co-ordinates
just don't fly. A lot of defense and commercial
folks would agree with me on this! He has to
admit to the deficiency and improbe further,
not denying them!

> 
> And while I'm writing a message to you, let me go
> back to an earlier
> message in which you said "The DSR draft constantly
> copys and adds
> methods from other people to be included in theirs,
> which is
> ridiculous."  Perhaps you could explain what you
> mean by this.  

OH COME ON! THIS IS PLAIN CLEAR CUT. YOU KNOW
WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND SO DO THE REST WHO
ARE AWARE OF ON-GOING WORK ON AD HOC. DO NOT
CLAIM THINGS THAT WERE NOT ORIGINAL PROPOSED
AND ADDRESS BY YOU.


> If
> there are methods that you believe we have copied
> from other people,
> please identify them and we will appropriately
> acknowledge them in
> future DSR drafts and papers; otherwise, again, your
> accusations are
> unfounded and without merit.

AGAIN< THIS IS CLEAR CUT & I DO NOT BELIEVE
YOU WILL EVER ADMIT TO THESE BUT PEOPLE KNOW.

WITH YOUR PERSONALITY OF GOING AROUND "HAMMERING"
PEOPLE, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO KNOW PEOPLE's
IDENTITY. YOU PROPBABLY NEED TO RETHINK YOUR
APPROACH TO THINGS AND PEOPLE AROUND YOU.

TOM

 
> And further, Tom, perhaps you could give the group a
> little
> information aboutl your own background and
> activities in the area of
> ad hoc networking.  You know all of the other people
> involved in this
> discussion -- through our identifiable email
> addresses and our names
> and other contact information on the published
> Internet-Drafts and
> other papers that you criticize.  In contrast, all
> that you have
> identified yourself so far with is a free (and
> easily anonymous) Yahoo
> email account.
> 
> 					Dave
> 
> 
> >Nitin: I don't think you should implement LAR
> (which 
> >is not a protocol as you claim) with DSR! You
> clearly
> >exhibit some form of political bias. 
> >
> >Is that related to your MobiHOC conference in some 
> >way or is that related to your paper acceptance? I
> >realize you publish things related to DSR and AODV
> -
> >clearly you are trying to gather "favor" from those
> >folks/people. 
> >
> >Does that explain how you get your papers published
> in
> >
> >MOBICOM (and you constantly published there) and
> >your NSF grants too?? Man.. this is bad...
> >
>
>=====================================================
> >--- Tom Hello <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Oh you (nitin)... About LAR/LAM - there are many
> >> flaws
> >> in location based routing. Your original proposal
> >> does not take into account connection/signal
> >> propagation properties, just location which is
> >> wrong.
> >> None of LAR/LAM have been implemented and tested
> >> in real systems. You should do it since you
> started
> >> it.
> >> 
> >> There is too much BS Stuff in this circle.
> >> I recall AODV - where the heck is the distance
> >> vector
> >> being used here?? That was just a twist from the
> >> DSDV
> >> protocol which is a table-driven protocol but
> >> the authors twisted it to change it to on-demand 
> >> based. There is just not enough good/properly 
> >> designed protocols and too much BS stuff and
> >> politics
> >> too.
> >> 
> >> These people need to wake up...
> >> 
> >> 
> >> --- Nitin H Vaidya <vaidya@cs.tamu.edu> wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >   >> From: Tom Hello <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com> 
>   
> >>  
> >> >  
> >> >   >> From owner-manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil Fri Dec
> 22
> >> > 12:43:48 2000
> >> >   >> 
> >> >   >> Li Li wrote:
> >> >   >> >
> >> >   >> >In the DSR draft, it says "Although many
> >> > routing
> >> >   >> >protocols operate correctly
> >> >   >> >only over bi-directional links, DSR can
> >> > successfully
> >> >   >> >discover and forward
> >> >   >> >packets over paths that contain
> >> > uni-directional
> >> >   >> >links."
> >> >   >> 
> >> >   >> I don't believe a single word of it. It
> was
> >> not
> >> >   >> even proven!! The DSR draft constantly
> copys
> >> > and
> >> > 
> >> > I do not recall if they give a formal proof or
> >> not,
> >> > but
> >> > it seemed to me that DSR could work on
> >> > unidirectional links.
> >> > Do you have a counter-example (or a "proof")
> that
> >> it
> >> > does not work?
> >> > 
> >> >   ...
> >> >   >> Also, why you are enhancing DSR and not
> doing
> >> > your
> >> >   >> own protocol? One need not have a paper
> that
> >> is
> >> >   >> DSR compliant to get one's paper
> accepted!!
> >> > 
> >> > Huh !?
> >> > Enhancing an existing protocol is not
> necessarily
> >> a
> >> > bad
> >> > thing, be it DSR, AODV, TORA, whatever.
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> > Happy holidays.
> >> > 
> >> > - nitin
> >> > 
> >> > .
> >> > hoc/ 
> >> > 
> >> > Happy holidays.
> >> > 
> >> > - nitin
> >> > 
> >> > .
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>
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> >
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Ram Ramanathan wrote:
>
> >
> > First idea:
> > -----------
> > How about implementing power control at every mobile
> > node in an ad-hoc network, in order to keep the number
> > of neighbors known to this node inferior to a certain
> > number n, chosen cleverly to achieve reasonable
> > coverage nonetheless? Maybe this could reduce power
> > consumption and/or overhead, and reduce it enough to
> > be worth the corresponding coverage loss.
> >
> 
> Good topic. BBN has done some work on this idea. Look at
> 
> R. Ramanathan and R. Hain "Topology control using transmit power
> adjustment" Proc. IEEE Infocom, 2000 (Tel Aviv)
> 


hmmm... 
isnt dropping the transmit power in some nodes but not others
*purposely* introducing undirectional links into the network. 
I guess this is just another reason to take undirectional links
seriously in ad hoc networks.

thanks,
daniel


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Hi all,

Here you have a pointer to the file Robin Poss referenced:

ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/Specs/December_99/25_series/25924-100.zip


Cheers,

Miguel Sanchez


> I think "3G TR 25.924 ,Opportunity Driven Multiple
> Access" deals with a similar idea.
> 
> --
> Robin
> 
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> 
> First idea:
> -----------
> How about implementing power control at every mobile
> node in an ad-hoc network, in order to keep the number
> of neighbors known to this node inferior to a certain
> number n, chosen cleverly to achieve reasonable
> coverage nonetheless? Maybe this could reduce power
> consumption and/or overhead, and reduce it enough to
> be worth the corresponding coverage loss.
> 

Very good topic. We have done some work on this idea at USC/ISI:

http://www.isi.edu/isi-technical-reports.html

TR-2000-527.pdf (Top of Page)  
Adaptive Energy-Conserving Routing for
Multihop Ad Hoc Networks Ya Xu, John Heidemann, Deborah Estrin
October 2000, 14 pages           

We are currently doing further investigations on this direction.

thanks

-Ya




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Hello
   I am trying to install the CMU extensions to ns simulator.
When I tried to "make" at the ns-src, I got the following error:
If you have any idea on this error please kindly inform me.
Thank you very much.
Regards
Ghee
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
ghee@yukon(305)% make
:
:
In file included from random.h:40,
                 from random.cc:42:
config.h:50: conflicting types for `typedef signed char int8_t'
/usr/include/sys/int_types.h:62: previous declaration as `typedef char
int8_t'
random.cc:45: declaration of C function `int srandom(...)' conflicts with
/usr/include/stdlib.h:182: previous declaration `void srandom(unsigned int)'
here
make: *** [random.o] Error 1
ghee@yukon(306)%
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------





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Hi
For the first error concerning srandom(), Just comment that particular
line out and for seond line relace your config.h with the compiled version
of your ns-2 version 3.0 config.h file, It should work that way
nitin

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On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, wooighee wrote:

> Hello
>    I am trying to install the CMU extensions to ns simulator.
> When I tried to "make" at the ns-src, I got the following error:
> If you have any idea on this error please kindly inform me.
> Thank you very much.
> Regards
> Ghee
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------------
> ghee@yukon(305)% make
> :
> :
> In file included from random.h:40,
>                  from random.cc:42:
> config.h:50: conflicting types for `typedef signed char int8_t'
> /usr/include/sys/int_types.h:62: previous declaration as `typedef char
> int8_t'
> random.cc:45: declaration of C function `int srandom(...)' conflicts with
> /usr/include/stdlib.h:182: previous declaration `void srandom(unsigned int)'
> here
> make: *** [random.o] Error 1
> ghee@yukon(306)%
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------------
> 
> 
> 



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Hello,

I'm currently trying to build the cmu extensions to ns but I'm running into
these problems.  At first, I had the following error:

In file included from random.h:40,
                  from random.cc:42:
 config.h:50: conflicting types for `typedef signed char int8_t'
 /usr/include/sys/int_types.h:62: previous declaration as `typedef char
 int8_t'
 random.cc:45: declaration of C function `int srandom(...)' conflicts with
 /usr/include/stdlib.h:182: previous declaration `void srandom(unsigned
int)'
 here
 make: *** [random.o] Error 1

Mr. Nitin Nagar suggested that I comment out the srandom in random.cc , and
then replace the config.h file with the ns-2's own config.h.

That did, in fact, correct the above errors (thanks Nagar), but now I get
another error in the same vein:

c++ -c -I. -I./cmu -I./cmu/dsr -I./cmu/dsdv -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/loca
l/GNU/include/g++ -I/usr/local/GNU/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/include -I/usr/local
/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.2.3/include/sys -I../TclCL -I../ot
cl -I/home/thames/wooighee/simu1/ns-allinone-2.1b3/ns-src/../tk8.0/generic -
I../tcl8.0/generic  -DNO_TK -DTCLCL_CLASSINSTVAR  -DNDEBUG -mv8 -msupersparc
 -D__svr4__ -DUSE_SHM -DHAVE_LIBTCLCL1_0B5 -DHAVE_TCLCL_H -DHAVE_LIBOTCL1_0A
2 -DHAVE_OTCL_H -DHAVE_LIBTK8_0 -DHAVE_TK_H -DHAVE_LIBTCL8_0 -DHAVE_TCL_H -D
abort=_ABORT -DMONARCH  -g -Wall -o random.o random.cc
c++ -c -I. -I./cmu -I./cmu/dsr -I./cmu/dsdv -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/loca
l/GNU/include/g++ -I/usr/local/GNU/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/include -I/usr/local
/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.2.3/include/sys -I../TclCL -I../ot
cl -I/home/thames/wooighee/simu1/ns-allinone-2.1b3/ns-src/../tk8.0/generic -
I../tcl8.0/generic  -DNO_TK -DTCLCL_CLASSINSTVAR  -DNDEBUG -mv8 -msupersparc
 -D__svr4__ -DUSE_SHM -DHAVE_LIBTCLCL1_0B5 -DHAVE_TCLCL_H -DHAVE_LIBOTCL1_0A
2 -DHAVE_OTCL_H -DHAVE_LIBTK8_0 -DHAVE_TK_H -DHAVE_LIBTCL8_0 -DHAVE_TCL_H -D
abort=_ABORT -DMONARCH  -g -Wall -o rng.o rng.cc

rng.cc:53: declaration of C function `int gettimeofday(struct timeval *,
struct timezone *)' conflicts with
/usr/include/sys/time.h:389: previous declaration `int gettimeofday(struct
timeval *, void *)' here
make: *** [rng.o] Error 1

I'm not sure if I should just go around each .cc file, commenting out each
declaration that has a conflict.  Is this the right approach?  It seems
rather strange for me to have to do this.

I did in fact try this:

1.)  First, I commented out line 53 of rng.cc due to a conflict with
timeofday function
2.)  Second, I edited cmu/debug.h to include <config.h> because in debug.h
u_int32_t was undeclared.

Finally, I get the following error:

cmu/debug.h: In method `HashSet::HashSet(char *)':
In file included from packet.h:82,
                 from agent.h:40,
                 from cmu/tora/tora.cc:6:
cmu/debug.h:54: warning: implicit declaration of function `int bzero(...)'
cmu/tora/tora.cc: In method `int toraAgent::command(int, const char *const
*)':
cmu/tora/tora.cc:79: `index' undeclared (first use this function)
cmu/tora/tora.cc:79: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
cmu/tora/tora.cc:79: for each function it appears in.)
cmu/tora/tora.cc: In method `void toraAgent::recvTORA(class Packet *)':
cmu/tora/tora.cc:275: warning: unused variable `struct hdr_ip * ih'
cmu/tora/tora.cc: In method `void toraAgent::recvCLR(class Packet *)':
cmu/tora/tora.cc:613: `index' undeclared (first use this function)
make: *** [cmu/tora/tora.o] Error 1

I'm at a lost to what to do.

I'm compiling on Solaris 2.5.x.5 with gcc compiler version gcc version 2.8.1

Any help would be greatly appreciated, I've been working on compiling this
program for the past whole week with little progress.  It is driving me
nuts.

Sincerlely yours,

Ghee
wooighee@ise.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp



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You might want to take a look at
NS INSTALLATION PROBLEMS page http://www.isi.edu/nsnam/ns/ns-problems.html
(and search for random)

and have you tried to use the latest version of ns? (since this problem
was reported in ns-2.1b4)

Kun-chan Lan

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, wooighee wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm currently trying to build the cmu extensions to ns but I'm running into
> these problems.  At first, I had the following error:
> 
> In file included from random.h:40,
>                   from random.cc:42:
>  config.h:50: conflicting types for `typedef signed char int8_t'
>  /usr/include/sys/int_types.h:62: previous declaration as `typedef char
>  int8_t'
>  random.cc:45: declaration of C function `int srandom(...)' conflicts with
>  /usr/include/stdlib.h:182: previous declaration `void srandom(unsigned
> int)'
>  here
>  make: *** [random.o] Error 1
> 
> Mr. Nitin Nagar suggested that I comment out the srandom in random.cc , and
> then replace the config.h file with the ns-2's own config.h.
> 
> That did, in fact, correct the above errors (thanks Nagar), but now I get
> another error in the same vein:
> 
> c++ -c -I. -I./cmu -I./cmu/dsr -I./cmu/dsdv -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/loca
> l/GNU/include/g++ -I/usr/local/GNU/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/include -I/usr/local
> /GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.2.3/include/sys -I../TclCL -I../ot
> cl -I/home/thames/wooighee/simu1/ns-allinone-2.1b3/ns-src/../tk8.0/generic -
> I../tcl8.0/generic  -DNO_TK -DTCLCL_CLASSINSTVAR  -DNDEBUG -mv8 -msupersparc
>  -D__svr4__ -DUSE_SHM -DHAVE_LIBTCLCL1_0B5 -DHAVE_TCLCL_H -DHAVE_LIBOTCL1_0A
> 2 -DHAVE_OTCL_H -DHAVE_LIBTK8_0 -DHAVE_TK_H -DHAVE_LIBTCL8_0 -DHAVE_TCL_H -D
> abort=_ABORT -DMONARCH  -g -Wall -o random.o random.cc
> c++ -c -I. -I./cmu -I./cmu/dsr -I./cmu/dsdv -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/loca
> l/GNU/include/g++ -I/usr/local/GNU/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/include -I/usr/local
> /GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5/2.7.2.3/include/sys -I../TclCL -I../ot
> cl -I/home/thames/wooighee/simu1/ns-allinone-2.1b3/ns-src/../tk8.0/generic -
> I../tcl8.0/generic  -DNO_TK -DTCLCL_CLASSINSTVAR  -DNDEBUG -mv8 -msupersparc
>  -D__svr4__ -DUSE_SHM -DHAVE_LIBTCLCL1_0B5 -DHAVE_TCLCL_H -DHAVE_LIBOTCL1_0A
> 2 -DHAVE_OTCL_H -DHAVE_LIBTK8_0 -DHAVE_TK_H -DHAVE_LIBTCL8_0 -DHAVE_TCL_H -D
> abort=_ABORT -DMONARCH  -g -Wall -o rng.o rng.cc
> 
> rng.cc:53: declaration of C function `int gettimeofday(struct timeval *,
> struct timezone *)' conflicts with
> /usr/include/sys/time.h:389: previous declaration `int gettimeofday(struct
> timeval *, void *)' here
> make: *** [rng.o] Error 1
> 
> I'm not sure if I should just go around each .cc file, commenting out each
> declaration that has a conflict.  Is this the right approach?  It seems
> rather strange for me to have to do this.
> 
> I did in fact try this:
> 
> 1.)  First, I commented out line 53 of rng.cc due to a conflict with
> timeofday function
> 2.)  Second, I edited cmu/debug.h to include <config.h> because in debug.h
> u_int32_t was undeclared.
> 
> Finally, I get the following error:
> 
> cmu/debug.h: In method `HashSet::HashSet(char *)':
> In file included from packet.h:82,
>                  from agent.h:40,
>                  from cmu/tora/tora.cc:6:
> cmu/debug.h:54: warning: implicit declaration of function `int bzero(...)'
> cmu/tora/tora.cc: In method `int toraAgent::command(int, const char *const
> *)':
> cmu/tora/tora.cc:79: `index' undeclared (first use this function)
> cmu/tora/tora.cc:79: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> cmu/tora/tora.cc:79: for each function it appears in.)
> cmu/tora/tora.cc: In method `void toraAgent::recvTORA(class Packet *)':
> cmu/tora/tora.cc:275: warning: unused variable `struct hdr_ip * ih'
> cmu/tora/tora.cc: In method `void toraAgent::recvCLR(class Packet *)':
> cmu/tora/tora.cc:613: `index' undeclared (first use this function)
> make: *** [cmu/tora/tora.o] Error 1
> 
> I'm at a lost to what to do.
> 
> I'm compiling on Solaris 2.5.x.5 with gcc compiler version gcc version 2.8.1
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated, I've been working on compiling this
> program for the past whole week with little progress.  It is driving me
> nuts.
> 
> Sincerlely yours,
> 
> Ghee
> wooighee@ise.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp
> 



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Oh wow.. This is a MANET list talking about
weakness of LAR. I can't believe this French
chap is using such terrible words. He has to
be kept away from this list. In addition to
his english, he better polishes up his manners..
I want to hear more who are aware of LAR work.

--- heylamer@m6net.fr wrote:
> Hey jackass, take some lessons in English before you
> go off spouting your
> conspiracy theories about people with intelligent
> things to say.  Don't you
> have anything better to do than creaming your pants
> typing the next thing
> that's "sure to get to them".  Nobody has time to
> listen to some 14 year old
> mp3-warez-porn-tew-3l33+-4u,
> check-me-out-mom-i-can-email ass pirate who
> thinks he's got something to say.
> 
> Why don't you go wack off instead of sending this
> kind of crap.
> 
> thanks for your time, dickweed.
> 
> vendredi, le 19 jan 2001 ` 21h28 -0800, Tom Hello a
> icrit :
> >
> > --- Dave Johnson <dbj@cs.rice.edu> wrote:
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > > I've resisted replying to your earlier messages,
> but
> > > I think its time
> > > I joined this discussion.  I think your
> criticism of
> > > Nitin's
> > > publications and NSF grants is quite unfair.  If
> you
> > > have evidence of
> > > actual favoritism toward people who base work on
> DSR
> > > or AODV, please
> > > share it with us; otherwise, your accusations
> are
> > > unfounded and
> > > without merit.
> > >=============
> > Oh yes, I do. I think it is clear to people in
> > this community that you and another guy
> specifically
> > make it hard for people who do not support your
> > protocol. In terms of publications, it is very
> > clear too.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > In the paritcular case of people basing their
> work
> > > on DSR, let me
> > > assure you that (as the leader of the Monarch
> > > Project that designed
> > > DSR) this adds no special "favor" to the work in
> my
> > > opinion.  On the
> > > contrary, if anything, I think this raises the
> bar
> > > with me for such
> > > work, since I care a lot about the protocol and
> its
> > > future and don't
> > > want "bad" work based on top of DSR.
> >
> > That is one problem of you. Instead of being
> > objective and open to other NEW and GOOD
> protocols,
> > you hammer them just because they are not
> > DSR compliant. I think that is not a wise move
> > at all. You cannot force people to accept you
> > protocol just because of your position at
> > a special interest group or in a conference.
> >
> > >LAR, however,
> > > I believe is good
> > > work, for its stated application and purpose of
> > > helping to reduce the
> > > overall routing overhead in the environments for
> > > which the protocol
> > > was designed.  Nitin has correctly described the
> > > protocol's advantages
> > > and limitations.
> >
> > No he did not! In fact, he shy away from the
> > truth limitations of location based routing.
> > As I have said, LAR did not consider signal
> > connectivity - plain location co-ordinates
> > just don't fly. A lot of defense and commercial
> > folks would agree with me on this! He has to
> > admit to the deficiency and improbe further,
> > not denying them!
> >
> > >
> > > And while I'm writing a message to you, let me
> go
> > > back to an earlier
> > > message in which you said "The DSR draft
> constantly
> > > copys and adds
> > > methods from other people to be included in
> theirs,
> > > which is
> > > ridiculous."  Perhaps you could explain what you
> > > mean by this.
> >
> > OH COME ON! THIS IS PLAIN CLEAR CUT. YOU KNOW
> > WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND SO DO THE REST WHO
> > ARE AWARE OF ON-GOING WORK ON AD HOC. DO NOT
> > CLAIM THINGS THAT WERE NOT ORIGINAL PROPOSED
> > AND ADDRESS BY YOU.
> >
> >
> > > If
> > > there are methods that you believe we have
> copied
> > > from other people,
> > > please identify them and we will appropriately
> > > acknowledge them in
> > > future DSR drafts and papers; otherwise, again,
> your
> > > accusations are
> > > unfounded and without merit.
> >
> > AGAIN< THIS IS CLEAR CUT & I DO NOT BELIEVE
> > YOU WILL EVER ADMIT TO THESE BUT PEOPLE KNOW.
> >
> > WITH YOUR PERSONALITY OF GOING AROUND "HAMMERING"
> > PEOPLE, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO KNOW PEOPLE's
> > IDENTITY. YOU PROPBABLY NEED TO RETHINK YOUR
> > APPROACH TO THINGS AND PEOPLE AROUND YOU.
> >
> > TOM
> >
> >
> >
> > > And further, Tom, perhaps you could give the
> group a
> > > little
> > > information aboutl your own background and
> > > activities in the area of
> > > ad hoc networking.  You know all of the other
> people
> > > involved in this
> > > discussion -- through our identifiable email
> > > addresses and our names
> > > and other contact information on the published
> > > Internet-Drafts and
> > > other papers that you criticize.  In contrast,
> all
> > > that you have
> > > identified yourself so far with is a free (and
> > > easily anonymous) Yahoo
> > > email account.
> > >
> > >                                     Dave
> > >
> > >
> > > >Nitin: I don't think you should implement LAR
> > > (which
> > > >is not a protocol as you claim) with DSR! You
> > > clearly
> > > >exhibit some form of political bias.
> > > >
> > > >Is that related to your MobiHOC conference in
> some
> > > >way or is that related to your paper
> acceptance? I
> > > >realize you publish things related to DSR and
> AODV
> > > -
> > > >clearly you are trying to gather "favor" from
> those
> > > >folks/people.
> > > >
> > > >Does that explain how you get your papers
> published
> > > in
> > > >
> > > >MOBICOM (and you constantly published there)
> and
> > > >your NSF grants too?? Man.. this is bad...
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>=====================================================
> > > >--- Tom Hello <cyberspacetom@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >> Oh you (nitin)... About LAR/LAM - there are
> many
> > > >> flaws
> > > >> in location based routing. Your original
> proposal
> > > >> does not take into account connection/signal
> > > >> propagation properties, just location which
> is
> > > >> wrong.
> > > >> None of LAR/LAM have been implemented and
> tested
> > > >> in real systems. You should do it since you
> > > started
> > > >> it.
> 
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Where did you learn about manners? I can't
believe you are from Holland...Anyhow, you did
not address the weakness I highlighted about
LAR. Are you following MANET work at all??



--- "Groten, D." <D.Groten@kpn.com> wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> 
> I feel compelled to comment about your postings on
> the MANET list. As a
> complete outsider from the discussion up to now, I
> would like to make it
> clear to you that also I feel your postings are not
> appropriate for a
> professional (if that's what you are) and for a
> constructive technical
> dialog on the MANET topics. 
> 
> Your posts break all rules of decency and
> netetiquette. One does not accuse
> people without proof, asking them in turn to prove
> their innocence. One does
> not have to use harsh language and SHOUT on a
> technical mailing list. And
> being proud of the US as a country of free speech
> does not justify abusing
> that freedom and publicly tarnishing someone's
> professional reputation
> without grounds.
> 
> I would support a motion to have you banished from
> the mailing list if
> asked, which shows you that also other unbiased
> "people" as you put it do
> not support your actions.
> 
> Please think about it, start behaving professionally
> and rejoin the
> discussions once you have accepted to change the
> tone of your postings.
> 
> Dirk.
> 
>
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>
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> d.groten@kpn.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Hello [mailto:cyberspacetom@yahoo.com]
> Sent: zaterdag 20 januari 2001 6:28
> To: Dave Johnson
> Cc: Nitin H Vaidya; manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil
> Subject: Re: DSR/LAR Issue
> 
> 
> 
> --- Dave Johnson <dbj@cs.rice.edu> wrote:
> > Tom,
> > 
> > I've resisted replying to your earlier messages,
> but
> > I think its time
> > I joined this discussion.  I think your criticism
> of
> > Nitin's
> > publications and NSF grants is quite unfair.  If
> you
> > have evidence of
> > actual favoritism toward people who base work on
> DSR
> > or AODV, please
> > share it with us; otherwise, your accusations are
> > unfounded and
> > without merit.
> >=============
> Oh yes, I do. I think it is clear to people in
> this community that you and another guy specifically
> make it hard for people who do not support your
> protocol. In terms of publications, it is very
> clear too. 
> 
> 
> > 
> > In the paritcular case of people basing their work
> > on DSR, let me
> > assure you that (as the leader of the Monarch
> > Project that designed
> > DSR) this adds no special "favor" to the work in
> my
> > opinion.  On the
> > contrary, if anything, I think this raises the bar
> > with me for such
> > work, since I care a lot about the protocol and
> its
> > future and don't
> > want "bad" work based on top of DSR.  
> 
> That is one problem of you. Instead of being 
> objective and open to other NEW and GOOD protocols,
> you hammer them just because they are not
> DSR compliant. I think that is not a wise move
> at all. You cannot force people to accept you
> protocol just because of your position at
> a special interest group or in a conference.
> 
> >LAR, however,
> > I believe is good
> > work, for its stated application and purpose of
> > helping to reduce the
> > overall routing overhead in the environments for
> > which the protocol
> > was designed.  Nitin has correctly described the
> > protocol's advantages
> > and limitations.
> 
> No he did not! In fact, he shy away from the
> truth limitations of location based routing.
> As I have said, LAR did not consider signal
> connectivity - plain location co-ordinates
> just don't fly. A lot of defense and commercial
> folks would agree with me on this! He has to
> admit to the deficiency and improbe further,
> not denying them!
> 
> > 
> > And while I'm writing a message to you, let me go
> > back to an earlier
> > message in which you said "The DSR draft
> constantly
> > copys and adds
> > methods from other people to be included in
> theirs,
> > which is
> > ridiculous."  Perhaps you could explain what you
> > mean by this.  
> 
> OH COME ON! THIS IS PLAIN CLEAR CUT. YOU KNOW
> WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND SO DO THE REST WHO
> ARE AWARE OF ON-GOING WORK ON AD HOC. DO NOT
> CLAIM THINGS THAT WERE NOT ORIGINAL PROPOSED
> AND ADDRESS BY YOU.
> 
> 
> > If
> > there are methods that you believe we have copied
> > from other people,
> > please identify them and we will appropriately
> > acknowledge them in
> > future DSR drafts and papers; otherwise, again,
> your
> > accusations are
> > unfounded and without merit.
> 
> AGAIN< THIS IS CLEAR CUT & I DO NOT BELIEVE
> YOU WILL EVER ADMIT TO THESE BUT PEOPLE KNOW.
> 
> WITH YOUR PERSONALITY OF GOING AROUND "HAMMERING"
> PEOPLE, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO KNOW PEOPLE's
> IDENTITY. YOU PROPBABLY NEED TO RETHINK YOUR
> APPROACH TO THINGS AND PEOPLE AROUND YOU.
> 
> TOM
> 
>  
> > And further, Tom, perhaps you could give the group
> a
> > little
> > information aboutl your own background and
> > activities in the area of
> > ad hoc networking.  You know all of the other
> people
> > involved in this
> > discussion -- through our identifiable email
> > addresses and our names
> > and other contact information on the published
> > Internet-Drafts and
> > other papers that you criticize.  In contrast, all
> > that you have
> > identified yourself so far with is a free (and
> > easily anonymous) Yahoo
> > email account.
> > 
> > 					Dave
> > 


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IEEE Symposium on Ad Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN)
in conjunction with IEEE GLOBECOM 2001
San Antonio, Texas, USA
November 25-29, 2001
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  Symposium Chairman
 
  Prof. C-K. Toh
  Electrical & Computer Engineering,
  Georgia Institute of Technology
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  IEEE Comsoc Liason
 
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About IEEE SAWN2001
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 The IEEE Symposium on Ad-Hoc Wireless Networks (SAWN2001) is a
 new and *high quality* technical meeting (to be held as part of
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 work related to the fast evolving field of ad hoc (multihop,
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 and emergency operations due to their fast deployable and
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Topics of Interest Include (but not are limited to):

 - Ad Hoc Routing Protocols/Algorithms
 - Ad Hoc Transport Issues
 - Media Access Techniques/Protocols
 - Sensor & Data Fusion Ad Hoc Networks
 - Ad hoc network architectures
 - Error & Link Control Tecniques
 - Access & Session Support
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Hi.

Does anybody knows how to obtain a throughput measurement of an ad-hoc
network?

Thanks.

Lucas F. Ledesma
Diego N. Pamio
Facultad de Ingeniería
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Hi.

We are trying to measure the throughput of an ad-hoc Network that we have
simulated using ns (2.1b7a). Does anyone know how to do this? We tried to
use per-flow monitors but it seems it doesn't work in ad-hoc networks
because it needs a (wired) link between the nodes.

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Hi.

Does anybody knows how to use Monitors in ad-hoc networks?

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From: "Groten, D." <D.Groten@kpn.com>
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Hi,

Robin Poss wrote:
>(...)
>Second idea:
>-------------
>How about a "dual" mobile phone, able to switch
>between a normal cellphone mode and an ad-hoc mode,
>the decision to swich being based, for example, on
>maximizing battery life, or minimizing bandwidth
>usage? In ad-hoc mode, the phone would use a chain of
>other phones not to reach the party called, but to
>reach the nearest (or otherwise clerverly chosen) base
>station.
>(...)
>I think "3G TR 25.924 ,Opportunity Driven Multiple
>Access" deals with a similar idea.

Let me add some information about ODMA, as proposed in 3G TR 25.924. In a
CDMA system (which 3G is), the total power of multiple users at a receiver
determines the noise floor after decorrelation. Therefore, power control is
of crucial importance to all CDMA systems. ODMA aims to reduce the power per
call by finding the optimum communication opportunity in an intelligent
network. It is proposed to be an added feature of the UMTS-TDD mode
(unpaired frequency band). Initial simulations by Vodaphone have shown that
a significant increase in capacity can be obtained, mostly in environments
with many obstacles, where shadowing from buildings can be avoided through
multi-hopping.
In summary, ODMA is a method to increase the capacity of a UMTS cell, not a
proper ad hoc networking method (all calls are finally routed to the base
station).

I would like to add, Robin, that operators such as KPN are actively
investigating the possibilities offered by ad hoc networking and that the
scenarios you sketch are not to be rejected just because they may threaten
our income. On the contrary, facilities to get cheap access to internet or
communicate cheaply between devices only increases the demand on mobile data
services...

One last question, Robin, could you maybe tell us about your background?
Which company or institution do you work for? I am always interested to
share ideas in this field.

Greetings,
Dirk.

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Hi Dirk,

I have recenlty learned  that Vodaphone is no longer interested in ODMA, so it
is out of 3G.

I think the idea can also be adapted for WLANs and it sounds like a good idea to
me (HIPERLAN standard includes something similar: Forwarding nodes). However
there are some MAC issues in 802.11 that  do not allow implementation based on
current standard (two different coordination functions).

Nice to learn that KPN is wise enough to consider this approach.

Regards,

Miguel

"Groten, D." wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> >(...)
> >I think "3G TR 25.924 ,Opportunity Driven Multiple
> >Access" deals with a similar idea.
>
> Let me add some information about ODMA, as proposed in 3G TR 25.924. In a
> CDMA system (which 3G is), the total power of multiple users at a receiver
> determines the noise floor after decorrelation. Therefore, power control is
> of crucial importance to all CDMA systems. ODMA aims to reduce the power per
> call by finding the optimum communication opportunity in an intelligent
> network. It is proposed to be an added feature of the UMTS-TDD mode
> (unpaired frequency band). Initial simulations by Vodaphone have shown that
> a significant increase in capacity can be obtained, mostly in environments
> with many obstacles, where shadowing from buildings can be avoided through
> multi-hopping.
> In summary, ODMA is a method to increase the capacity of a UMTS cell, not a
> proper ad hoc networking method (all calls are finally routed to the base
> station).
>
> I would like to add, Robin, that operators such as KPN are actively
> investigating the possibilities offered by ad hoc networking and that the
> scenarios you sketch are not to be rejected just because they may threaten
> our income. On the contrary, facilities to get cheap access to internet or
> communicate cheaply between devices only increases the demand on mobile data
> services...
>
> One last question, Robin, could you maybe tell us about your background?
> Which company or institution do you work for? I am always interested to
> share ideas in this field.
>
> Greetings,
> Dirk.
>

--
Miguel Sanchez

International Computer Science Institute
1947 Center St, suite 636
Berkeley, CA, 94704
USA

voice: (510) 666 2906
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Hello All,

With regard to adding ad hoc relaying capability onto mobile cellular
phones, you could have a look at one of my latest publications on the
topic. The article can be found in: 

Aggelou G. and Tafazolli R., "On the Relaying Capability of Next Generation
GSM Cellular Network",  to appear in IEEE Personal Communications Magazine
, Special Issue on Advances in Mobile Ad Hoc Networking, vol. 8, no 1,
February 2001.

Regards,
George A.


>Hi,
>
>Robin Poss wrote:
>>(...)
>>Second idea:
>>-------------
>>How about a "dual" mobile phone, able to switch
>>between a normal cellphone mode and an ad-hoc mode,
>>the decision to swich being based, for example, on
>>maximizing battery life, or minimizing bandwidth
>>usage? In ad-hoc mode, the phone would use a chain of
>>other phones not to reach the party called, but to
>>reach the nearest (or otherwise clerverly chosen) base
>>station.
>>(...)
>>I think "3G TR 25.924 ,Opportunity Driven Multiple
>>Access" deals with a similar idea.
>
>Let me add some information about ODMA, as proposed in 3G TR 25.924. In a
>CDMA system (which 3G is), the total power of multiple users at a receiver
>determines the noise floor after decorrelation. Therefore, power control is
>of crucial importance to all CDMA systems. ODMA aims to reduce the power per
>call by finding the optimum communication opportunity in an intelligent
>network. It is proposed to be an added feature of the UMTS-TDD mode
>(unpaired frequency band). Initial simulations by Vodaphone have shown that
>a significant increase in capacity can be obtained, mostly in environments
>with many obstacles, where shadowing from buildings can be avoided through
>multi-hopping.
>In summary, ODMA is a method to increase the capacity of a UMTS cell, not a
>proper ad hoc networking method (all calls are finally routed to the base
>station).
>
>I would like to add, Robin, that operators such as KPN are actively
>investigating the possibilities offered by ad hoc networking and that the
>scenarios you sketch are not to be rejected just because they may threaten
>our income. On the contrary, facilities to get cheap access to internet or
>communicate cheaply between devices only increases the demand on mobile data
>services...
>
>One last question, Robin, could you maybe tell us about your background?
>Which company or institution do you work for? I am always interested to
>share ideas in this field.
>
>Greetings,
>Dirk.
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>Dirk Groten	      	             KPN  Research		
>------------------------------------------------------------------	
>P. O. Box 421		       Tel: +31 6 53747220
>2260 AK Leidschendam	       Fax: +31 70 3326477
>The Netherlands	             E-mail: d.groten@kpn.com

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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Hi,

In the context of the discussions that have been going on about dual-mode
networks:

We have been working on such a hybrid network model that tries to leverage the
advantages of ad-hoc networks. While we have some interesting insights into
such a hybrid model, I would like to bring your attention to some of the results
that we have observed during the course of our performance comparisons between
conventional cellular networks and  multi-hop ad-hoc networks (the results are
to appear in  ACM SIGMETRICS 2001):

Ad-hoc networks perform better in terms of raw network capacity, end-to-end
throughput, end-to-end delay, and  power consumption. The exact order of
improvement is dependent on several factors and will require a much more
involved discussion. However, a key point that our results show is that,
ad-hoc networks perform WORSE when the following metrics are considered:

1. Fairness: Although the average throughput, delay, and power-consumption
characteristics of an ad-hoc network might be better, it is very likely that
there are a good number of nodes (flows) that perform much worse than in a
similar network operating in cellular mode. While unfairness in power
consumption can potentially be addressed using a "revenue-sharing" scheme,
unfairness in throughput is less likely to be accomodated by network users.

2. Impact of mobility: While ad-hoc networks exhibit better throughput because
of more spatial-reuse, the same factor that contributes to the increase in
spatial-reuse - smaller transmission ranges - result in frequent network
partitions and route failures resulting in poor performance. This is especially
evident at vehicular speeds (15-20m/s).

3. Impact of traffic locality: While ad-hoc networks have typically been
considered in "stand-alone" network environments where sources and destinations
are within the same "network" or "cell", the same model when required to
perform over a typical Internet model wherein the mobile stations act as
clients to servers in the backbone ,  perform badly. The reason for this
performance degradation is because spatial re-use can no longer be leveraged
due to the shared space  around the base-station acting as a bottleneck.

While we have identified these problems, it is to be noted that  these are not
problems that are not surmountable. In fact, in the same paper, we do discuss a
preliminary hybrid network model that addresses some of the problems. However,
the point of our work is to identify the fact that, even from a purely
performance perspective, ad-hoc networks cannot be adopted on an "as-is" basis
to support  conventional wireless packet data in the Internet. 

Regards,
Siva

---------------------------------------------
Raghupathy Sivakumar
Assistant Professor
School of Electrical and Computer Engineering
Georgia Institute of Technology

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"Groten, D." wrote:

> I would like to add, Robin, that operators such as KPN are actively
> investigating the possibilities offered by ad hoc networking and that the
> scenarios you sketch are not to be rejected just because they may threaten
> our income. On the contrary, facilities to get cheap access to internet or
> communicate cheaply between devices only increases the demand on mobile data
> services...

My first reaction to the original mail was that with this, operators would make
even more money i.e. there is no reason to give "83% of last sentence" free
even if it was in a fully-adhoc mode when you can charge for all of it. Operator

may pass on some infrastructure cost saving to the subscriber. I don't know if
I will believe an operator when he says my monthly bill is x as I was on adhoc
mode 20% of the time and not 50% of the time even if the operator decided to
bill based on the mode.

Can I, as a subscriber, know when I am in adhoc mode and when I am not?

Would I know if my phone/PDA is being used for someone else's transmission?

I am assuming that in future we'll be using same device for voice conversation
and internet access and that the same device will act as a router in the adhoc
network (is that a valid assumption?). Since I would like to receive calls, I
would
probably not turn off my phone and if I my phone can be a router and I cannot
tell if my phone is being used as a router, no one needs to compensate me for
my being cooperative in letting others use up my phone battery. Only thing I
can do is to not buy these dual-mode PDA-phones but then I won't be able to
get the cheaper rate either since my phone can never be in adhoc mode...

Saurabh

* Disclaimer - These are just my thoughts, not Alcatel's position/opinion on
this. *



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hi,
if u have not already gone through the paper by P.R.Kumar,
University of Illinios, u can go through it, it talks about
throughputs.

the name of the paper is "New technological vistas for systems
and control: The example of wireless networks".
it was published in may 8, 2000.


ravi.




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On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Diego Pamio wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> Does anybody knows how to obtain a throughput measurement of an ad-hoc
> network?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Lucas F. Ledesma
> Diego N. Pamio
> Facultad de Ingeniería
> Universidad Católica de Córdoba
> Argentina
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Hi All,

--- Raghupathy Sivakumar <siva@ece.gatech.edu> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> In the context of the discussions that have been going on about dual-mode
networks:
> 
> 1. Fairness: Although the average throughput, delay, and power-consumption
characteristics of an ad-hoc network might be better, it is very likely that
there are a >good  number of nodes (flows) that perform much worse than in a
similar network operating in cellular mode. While unfairness in power
consumption can 
>potentially be addressed using a "revenue-sharing" scheme, unfairness in
throughput is less likely to be accomodated by network users.
> 

I was wondering whether the time to address the QOS issues has come as
mentioned in the RFC 2501 on page 4 paragraph 1 which states that:
"The working group will also consider issues pertaining to addressing,
security, and interaction/interfacing with lower and upper layer protocols.
In the longer term, the group may look at the issues of layering more
advanced mobility services on top of the initial unicast routing developed.
These longer term issues will likely include investigating multicast and QoS
extensions for a dynamic, mobile area."
Although there is much work going on in the field of routing can anyone
guide me towards any work which addresses QOS issues in MANETs.
Thanks in advance,

Hridesh







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>  

dpamio@mail.com said:
> Hi.
> We are trying to measure the throughput of an ad-hoc Network that we
> have simulated using ns (2.1b7a). Does anyone know how to do this? We
> tried to use per-flow monitors but it seems it doesn't work in ad-hoc
> networks because it needs a (wired) link between the nodes.

> Thank you.

> Lucas F. Ledesma




A simple mean is to add during the simulation all the bits sent in all the 
packets in
the whole ad-hoc network. 
The ratio of this number of bits by the simulation duration will give you a 
throughput in bit per second. 

This throughput may exceed the "air" rate of the modem because you may have 
spatial reuse.   
If you want to avoid this phenomenon you can divide this throughput by the 
ratio
between the surface of your ad-hoc network by the surface of the modem 
coverage area. You should have then a 
throughput less than the "air" rate of the modem. This figure can be used to 
evaluate your
medium access scheme.


Paul Muhlethaler 


dpamio@mail.com said:
> Hi.
> Does anybody knows how to obtain a throughput measurement of an ad-hoc
> network?

> Thanks.

> Lucas F. Ledesma Diego N. Pamio Facultad de Ingeniería Universidad
> Católica de Córdoba Argentina





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Hi, Hridesh:

I have done a review on the current work about QoS support in ad hoc
networks. If you are interested, it can be found at  
http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~wkui/research/QoSReview.ps

It is just a review for my own use. It will be appreciated if anyone can
provide more clues on this issue.

Kui
    
Computing Science Dept.         |email: wkui@cs.ualberta.ca
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Rajan, Hridesh (Hridesh) wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> --- Raghupathy Sivakumar <siva@ece.gatech.edu> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > In the context of the discussions that have been going on about dual-mode
> networks:
> > 
> > 1. Fairness: Although the average throughput, delay, and power-consumption
> characteristics of an ad-hoc network might be better, it is very likely that
> there are a >good  number of nodes (flows) that perform much worse than in a
> similar network operating in cellular mode. While unfairness in power
> consumption can 
> >potentially be addressed using a "revenue-sharing" scheme, unfairness in
> throughput is less likely to be accomodated by network users.
> > 
> 
> I was wondering whether the time to address the QOS issues has come as
> mentioned in the RFC 2501 on page 4 paragraph 1 which states that:
> "The working group will also consider issues pertaining to addressing,
> security, and interaction/interfacing with lower and upper layer protocols.
> In the longer term, the group may look at the issues of layering more
> advanced mobility services on top of the initial unicast routing developed.
> These longer term issues will likely include investigating multicast and QoS
> extensions for a dynamic, mobile area."
> Although there is much work going on in the field of routing can anyone
> guide me towards any work which addresses QOS issues in MANETs.
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Hridesh
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hridesh Rajan, Member of Technical Staff
> Lucent Technologies   <<...OLE_Obj...>> 
> Bell Labs Innovations
> 
> Tel:   +91 (80) 5271771 2582       Fax:  +91 (80) 5271777
> mailto: hridesh@lucent.com
> 



