From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Aug 1 00:10:05 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA25651 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 00:10:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19iREZ-0003qr-8b for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 00:09:39 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7149d4D014798 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 00:09:39 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19iREZ-0003qb-50 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 00:09:39 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA25588 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 00:09:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19iREW-00026e-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 00:09:36 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19iREV-00026W-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 00:09:35 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19iRD0-0003dX-1a; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 00:08:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19iRCm-0003ay-Do for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 00:07:48 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA25454 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 00:07:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19iRCj-00023x-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 00:07:45 -0400 Received: from [203.254.224.33] (helo=mailout3.samsung.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19iRCi-00023j-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 00:07:44 -0400 Received: from custom-daemon.mailout3.samsung.com by mailout3.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.05 (built Nov 6 2002)) id <0HIX00608A41AK@mailout3.samsung.com> for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 13:07:13 +0900 (KST) Received: from ep_mmp1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout3.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.05 (built Nov 6 2002)) with ESMTP id <0HIX00AOQA3VYS@mailout3.samsung.com> for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 13:07:07 +0900 (KST) Received: from Shubhranshu ([75.2.47.220]) by mmp1.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0HIX0091ZA3VBQ@mmp1.samsung.com> for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 13:07:07 +0900 (KST) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 13:07:10 -0800 From: Shubhranshu Subject: Re: [manet] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-manet-tbrpf-10.txt To: ogier@erg.sri.com Cc: ogier@erg.sri.com, manet@ietf.org Reply-to: Shubhranshu Message-id: <00f901c35870$dfafaec0$dc2f024b@Shubhranshu> Organization: Samsung MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <200307312003.NAA11976@pit.erg.sri.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Richard, Thanks. The rewrite makes it clear to me. Regards Shubhranshu ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Shubhranshu" Cc: ; Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [manet] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-manet-tbrpf-10.txt > Hi Shubhranshu, > > > Hi Richard, > > Thanks > > One more quick question : > > In section 8.4.4, third paragraph --- " .... node i computes shortest > > paths, up to 2 hops, from each neighbor to each other > > neighbor, using only neighbors (or node i itself) as an intermediate node,... > ." > > > > I feel that it should be ".....to each other neighbor, using only > > *node i itself* as an intermediate node ..." > > If not then I am afraid i could not exactly understand how > > node i determines that one of its neighbors > > may select i to be its next hop on its shortest path to j. > > For reference, here is the paragraph in the draft: > > "A node first determines which of its neighbors belong to RN. Node i > includes a neighbor j in RN if and only if node i determines that one > of its neighbors may select i to be its next hop on its shortest path > to j. To make this determination, node i computes the shortest paths, > up to 2 hops, from each neighbor to each other neighbor, using only > neighbors (or node i itself) as an intermediate node, and using relay > priority and router ID to break ties." > > Maybe this rewrite will make it clearer: To determine which neighbors > are in RN, node i computes shortest paths, up to 2 hops, from each > neighbor k to each other neighbor j, allowing only neighbors of node i > (or node i itself) to be the intermediate node, and using relay priority > and router ID to break ties. (If the intermediate node happens to be > node i, then node j is included in RN.) > > The procedure Update_RN() defined in the same section makes this precise. > > Note also that node i knows the local links reported by each neighbor, > i.e., it knows the full topology for its 2-hop neighborhood, which > allows it to compute the 2-hop shortest paths mentioned above. > > The following paragraph from the draft helps to understand > the analogy between neighbors in RN and MPR selectors: > > "We note that neighbors in RN are analogous to multipoint relay (MPR) > selectors [9]. Thus, if node i selects neighbor j to be in RN, then > node i effectively selects itself to be an MPR of node j. This is > quite different from [9], in which a node does not select itself to > be an MPR, but selects a subset of its neighbors to be MPRs." > > Regards, > Richard _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Aug 1 07:08:20 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA05816 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:08:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19iXlG-00046P-U9 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 07:07:55 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h71B7oHf015770 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:07:50 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19iXlG-00046H-NS for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 07:07:50 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA05791 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:07:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19iXlC-0004Ck-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 07:07:46 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19iXlB-0004Ch-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 07:07:45 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19iXkU-0003nT-2B; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 07:07:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19iXjV-0003mP-KN for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 07:06:02 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA05775 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:05:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19iXjR-0004CQ-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 07:05:57 -0400 Received: from inet-tsb.toshiba.co.jp ([202.33.96.40]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19iXjQ-0004CN-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 07:05:56 -0400 Received: from tsb-wall.toshiba.co.jp ([133.199.160.134]) by inet-tsb.toshiba.co.jp with ESMTP id h71B5tVj011511; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 20:05:55 +0900 (JST) Received: (from root@localhost) by tsb-wall.toshiba.co.jp id h71B5tBf018548; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 20:05:55 +0900 (JST) Received: from tis2 [133.199.160.66] by tsb-wall.toshiba.co.jp with SMTP id WAA18547 ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 20:05:55 +0900 Received: from mx.toshiba.co.jp by tis2.tis.toshiba.co.jp id UAA28442; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 20:05:54 +0900 (JST) Received: from isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp by toshiba.co.jp id UAA14859; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 20:05:54 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (inoue@flowerpark [133.196.16.25]) by isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp (8.11.7/8.11.6/1.4) with ESMTP id h71B5rb23516; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 20:05:53 +0900 (JST) To: nemo@nal.motlabs.com, manet@ietf.org, mobile-ip@sunroof.eng.sun.com, pana@research.telcordia.com Cc: inoue@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.28 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20030801200553V.inoue@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 20:05:53 +0900 From: Atsushi Inoue X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 90 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [manet] ICMU2004 Deadline extended, Paper due: August 20th Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The deadline of paper submission for First International Conference on Mobile Computing and Ubiquitous Networking (ICMU 2004) is now extended to August 20th. Atsushi Inoue, ICMU2004 Publicity ************************************************************* Deadline for paper submission to ICMU 2004 has been extended. Paper submission due: August 20, 2003. ************************************************************* (Apologies if you receive multiple copies) CALL FOR PAPERS =============== First International Conference on Mobile Computing and Ubiquitous Networking (ICMU 2004) January 8 and 9, 2004 NTT DoCoMo R&D Center, Yokosuka Rsearch Park, Yokosuka, JAPAN http://www.ipsj.or.jp/sig/mbl/icmu2004/ Deadline for submissions: August 20 2003 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Co-sponsored by IPSJ SIG-MBL (Informaiton Processing Society of Japan, Special Interest Group of Mobile Computing and Ubiquitous Networking) and IPSJ SG-BCC (Study Group of Broadcast Communicaiton and Computing) Scope: ~~~~~~ Mobile computing aims at ubiquitous user access to computer application. To make it possible, networking technology which enables Internet access anytime and everywhere, i.e. ubiquitous networking is necessary. It is obvious that with the accelerating trends towards mobile networks, ad-hoc networks, and wireless networks, mobile computing and ubiquitous networking will play an important role in future network. This conference is aimed at providing researchers and practitioners in this hot research area a forum for discussion and collaboration. Authors are invited to submit papers addressing, but not limited to, the following topics: - Applications and services for mobile computing - Network architectures, protocols, or service models for ubiquitous networking - Network management for ubiquitous networking - Data management for mobile computing - Security in mobile computing and ubiquitous networking - Wireless and mobile communications - Nomadic computing - Ad-hoc networks - Mobile Internetworking - Performance evaluation for mobile computing and ubiquitous networking systems - Broadcast communication Submission Instructions: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Papers are solicited as full papers of no more than 6 pages, each of which will be subject to a full review process. Submission should already follow the author guidelines as specified in the web site below. An electronic, PDF-based submission of papers is mandatory. Please check Submission Guideline (http://www.ipsj.or.jp/sig/mbl/icmu2004/guide.html) for further submission instructions. Important Dates: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - Deadline for submissions August 20, 2003 - Notification of acceptance October 1, 2003 - Camera ready due November 1, 2003 - Conference January 8-9, 2004 Location and Date: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The location of the NTT DoCoMo R&D Center is in the heart of Yokosuka Research Park(YRP) where a lot of wireless communication related research institutes are established. YRP is really the heart of wireless communications research in Japan. Japanese old city Kamakura, a famous historic city, is 30 minutes by train. Beginning of the year is one of the best seasons for visiting Japan. You can also get PDF version of Call for Papers from http://www.ipsj.or.jp/sig/mbl/icmu2004/cfp-icmu2004.pdf _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Sat Aug 2 01:44:48 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA23299 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 01:44:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ipBk-0002k5-GG for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2003 01:44:22 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h725iKtg010535 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 01:44:20 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ipBk-0002jq-CE for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2003 01:44:20 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA23289 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 01:44:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ipBh-0001ao-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2003 01:44:17 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ipBg-0001ak-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2003 01:44:16 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ipBS-0002h1-6a; Sat, 02 Aug 2003 01:44:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ipAd-0002fp-EL for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2003 01:43:13 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA23275 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 01:43:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ipAa-0001aX-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2003 01:43:08 -0400 Received: from web40508.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.78.125]) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ipAZ-0001aN-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 02 Aug 2003 01:43:07 -0400 Message-ID: <20030802054238.49646.qmail@web40508.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [137.132.3.9] by web40508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 01 Aug 2003 22:42:38 PDT Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 22:42:38 -0700 (PDT) From: ng jiahui Subject: Re: [MANET] [DSR] linux implementation 802.11b To: jtoung@arc.nasa.gov, "spagoni@inwind.it" , manet In-Reply-To: <200307290837.56005.jtoung@arc.nasa.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , hi; To implement DSR routing, you can try PICONET II by Alex Song using the following link stated below: http://piconet.sourceforge.net/thesis/main.html Regards; Jiahui --- Jerry Toung wrote: > Good morning Carlo, > I'm not sure there is one available. Last I heard > back in March was that there > was a Linux implementation from University of > Queensland. > Jerry. > > > On Tuesday 29 July 2003 02:58 am, spagoni@inwind.it > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > my name is Carlo and i'm going to develop my > thesis in manet environment. > > I must build a real testbed in ad hoc environment > with DSR routing > > protocol, anyone know where can i find an > implementation of DSR routing > > protocol for linux with support to 802.11b? > > > > Thanks....and sorry for my bad english > > > > > > Carlo > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > manet mailing list > > manet@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Aug 4 02:07:42 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id CAA13072 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 02:07:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19jYV1-00019i-UQ for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:07:16 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7467FTw004431 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 02:07:15 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19jYV1-00019O-3y for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:07:15 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id CAA12535 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 02:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19jYUx-0006Mn-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:07:11 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19jYUx-0006Mk-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:07:11 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19jYUm-00012A-UQ; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:07:00 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19jYUP-0000yI-5s for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:06:37 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id CAA11911 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 02:06:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19jYUL-0006MC-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:06:33 -0400 Received: from osgood.cc.nd.edu ([129.74.250.227]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19jYUL-0006M2-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:06:33 -0400 Received: from sys.cse.ND.EDU (sys.cse.nd.edu [129.74.50.188]) by osgood.cc.nd.edu (Switch-3.0.4/Switch-3.0.0) with ESMTP id h746645k015700 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 01:06:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by sys.cse.ND.EDU (Postfix, from userid 9403) id A2BF4176BBD; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 01:08:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 01:08:12 -0500 From: Surendar Chandra To: manet@ietf.org Message-ID: <20030804060812.GA26348@sys.cse.nd.edu> Reply-To: surendar@nd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-ND-MTA-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 01:06:05 -0500 (EST) X-ND-Virus-Scan: engine v4.2.40; dat v4282 Subject: [manet] CFP: Trusted Internet Workshop (TIW03) (reminder) Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , We apologize if you received multiple copies of this Call for Papers. Please feel free to distribute it to those who might be interested. ================================+========================================== Second International Trusted Internet Workshop TIW 2003 Held in conjunction with Intl. Conference on High-Performance Computing 2003 December 17, 2003 Hyderabad, INDIA URLs: http://www.ee.iastate.edu/~gmani/tiw-2003 http://www.hipc.org Submission Deadline: August 15, 2003 For more information, please contact: Prof. Manimaran (gmani@iastate.edu) and Prof. Sivalingam (krishna@umbc.edu) ==============================++=========================================== SCOPE In recent years, there has been a tremendous push from both civil and military communities for next generation applications demanding Quality of Service (QoS), reliability, and security guarantees. The goal of Trusted Internet workshop is to provide a forum for researchers and practitioners to present and discuss their work and exchange ideas in the areas of Internet QoS, Internet Reliability, and Internet Security. To achieve this goal, this workshop solicits original, previously unpublished research contributions on (but not restricted to) the following subject categories of Trusted Internet: -- Internet QoS & VPN Design -- Content Distribution Networks -- Media Servers and Web Caching -- MPLS Networks & IP over WDM -- Denial of Service (DoS) & IP Traceback -- QoS/FT/Secure Routing and Multicasting -- QoS/FT/Security in Wireless, Mobile and Sensor Networks SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS All paper submissions will be handled electronically. Authors should prepare a PostScript or Portable Document Format (PDF) version of their paper. No other format will be accepted. By the submission deadline, please do the following: A. Send an Email with the title, authors and abstract to: Prof. Manimaran (gmani@iastate.edu) and Prof. Sivalingam (krishna@umbc.edu) B. Send the Final PDF/PS file by email to Prof. Krishna Sivalingam at krishna@umbc.edu Papers must meet the following restrictions: - The paper must be original material that has not been previously published nor is currently under review by another conference or journal. - Papers should be no longer than *8 pages* (two column is acceptable), in font no smaller than 10 points. These page limits include *all* material, i.e., figures, bibliography, etc. - The paper should fit properly on US Letter-sized paper (8.5x11 inches) - PostScript version 2 or later, or Portable Document Format (PDF) - Use only Computer Modern or standard Adobe printer fonts (i.e., Courier, Times, Roman, or Helvetica) - Other fonts may be used, but must be included in the PostScript/PDF file - The paper must be formatted for b/w printers and not color printers. All contributions will be refereed by the Program Committee. Each accepted paper must be presented at the workshop. Accepted papers will be available as part of the proceedings, at the workshop. IMPORTANT DATES --------------- * Submissions due: August 15, 2003 * Notification of acceptance: Sept. 15, 2003 * Final manuscript due: Sept. 30, 2003 * Workshop date: December 17, 2003 ORGANIZING COMMITTEE -------------------- GENERAL CO-CHAIRS ----------------- G. Manimaran Assistant Professor Dept. of ECpE Iowa State University Ames, IA 50011, USA Phone: 515 294 9175 Fax: 515 294 8432 Email: gmani@iastate.edu C. Siva Ram Murthy Professor Department of Computer Science IIT Chennai (formerly Madras) Chennai - 600 036, INDIA Email: murthy@iitm.ac.in TECHNICAL PROGRAM CHAIR ----------------------- Krishna Sivalingam Associate Professor Department of CSEE 1000 Hilltop Circle University of Maryland Baltimore County Baltimore, MD 21250 Email: krishna@cs.umbc.edu Phone: 1-410-455-3961 Fax: 1-410-455-3969 TECHNICAL PROGRAM COMMITTEE --------------------------- Abdelmadjid Bouabdallah, UTC, France Albert Banchs, NEC Europe, Germany Arul Sironmoney, Anna University, India Byrav Ramamurthy, University of Nebraska, USA Mohan Gurusamy, NUS, Singapore Padma Mundur, UMBC, USA Prasant Mohapatra, University of California, Davis, USA Sudebkumar Prasant Pal, IIT Kharagpur, India Surendar Chandra, Univ. of Notre Dame, USA Suresh Subramaniam, George Washington University, USA PUBLICITY CHAIR --------------- Surendar Chandra, Univ. of Notre Dame, USA ====================================================================== _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Aug 4 03:50:50 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id DAA19064 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 03:50:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ja6p-0005hs-Er for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 03:50:24 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h747oNQs021935 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 03:50:23 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ja6p-0005hi-47 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 03:50:23 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id DAA19038 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 03:50:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ja6m-0006tA-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 03:50:20 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ja6m-0006t7-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 03:50:20 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ja6U-0005dL-JL; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 03:50:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ja5o-0005cL-27 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 03:49:20 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id DAA19002 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 03:49:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ja5l-0006sG-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 03:49:17 -0400 Received: from sam.comnets.uni-bremen.de ([134.102.186.10] helo=bugs.comnets.uni-bremen.de) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ja5k-0006ro-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 03:49:16 -0400 Received: from scoobydoo (scoobydoo.comnets.uni-bremen.de [134.102.155.152]) by bugs.comnets.uni-bremen.de (8.11.0/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with ESMTP id h747mGK17174; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 09:48:16 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: bugs.comnets.uni-bremen.de: Host scoobydoo.comnets.uni-bremen.de [134.102.155.152] claimed to be scoobydoo From: "Koojana Kuladinithi" To: Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Carmelita_G=F6rg?= Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 09:48:13 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c35a5c$c2296650$989b6686@scoobydoo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [manet] Doubtful areas in RFC 3561 Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Charlie, Elizabeth & Samir We are working at implementing RFC 3561. Following paragraphs of RFC = 3561 seem to be confusing.=20 I would appreciate if you can have a look and give us your feedback. --------------------------------- 6.5 Processing & forwarding Route Requests Second paragraph says=20 "First, it first increments the hop count value in the RREQ by one, to account for the new hop through the intermediate node." Later paragraph (3rd) says "If a node does not generate a RREP (following the processing rules in section 6.6), and if the incoming IP header has TTL larger than 1, the node updates and broadcasts the RREQ to address 255.255.255.255 on each of its configured interfaces (see section 6.14). To update the RREQ, the TTL or hop limit field in the outgoing IP header is decreased by one, and the Hop Count field in the RREQ message is incremented by one, to account for the new hop through the intermediate node." According to above explanations, hop count in RREQ is incremented 2 = times=20 by an intermediate node before broadcasting. Isn't this incorrect? --------------------------------------- 6.6 Generating Route Replies "When generating a RREP message, a node copies the Destination IP Address and the Originator Sequence Number from the RREQ message into the corresponding fields in the RREP message." There is no field in RREP to put Originator Sequence Number from the = RREQ -------------------------------------------------- 6.6.1 Route Reply Generation by the Destination "If the generating node is the destination itself, it MUST increment its own sequence number by one if the sequence number in the RREQ packet is equal to that incremented value. Otherwise, the destination does not change its sequence number before generating the RREP message." But, 6.1 says that destination node increments its own sequence number, " - Immediately before a destination node originates a RREP in response to a RREQ, it MUST update its own sequence number to the maximum of its current sequence number and the destination sequence number in the RREQ packet." These two statements seem contradictory. For example, if RREQ has=20 seq =3D 20 & Destination node has seq =3D 22. =20 6.6.1 says that destination node should not increment its seq number 6.1 says that destination node should increment its seq number to 23 What is correct? -------------------------------- Thanks in advance Kind regards Koojana University of Bremen FB 1 =96 IKOM/ComNets Koojana Kuladinithi BSc, MSc Otto-Hahn-Allee NW 1 28359 Bremen - Germany Tel.: +49 421 218 8264, Fax: +49 421 218 3601, Mobile: +49 160 2690070 Email: kuladinithi@ikom.org=A0=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 koo@comnets.uni-bremen.de=20 =A0 _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Aug 4 12:17:28 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA03121 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 12:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19jhgz-0002qA-8W for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 11:56:14 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h74FuDaL010913 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:56:13 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19jhgz-0002pw-5M for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 11:56:13 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id LAA02172 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19jhgx-00039H-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 11:56:11 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19jhgx-00039E-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 11:56:11 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19jhgo-0002mZ-MH; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 11:56:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19jhfq-0002l3-UK for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 11:55:02 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id LAA02089 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:54:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19jhTU-00031O-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 11:42:16 -0400 Received: from letters.cs.ucsb.edu ([128.111.41.13]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19jhTU-00031K-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2003 11:42:16 -0400 Received: from kenai.cs.ucsb.edu (moment [128.111.40.94]) by letters.cs.ucsb.edu (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h74Fg8S15984; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 08:42:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Ian Chakeres MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <16174.32438.372973.689318@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 08:41:42 -0700 To: "Koojana Kuladinithi" Cc: , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Carmelita_G=F6rg?= Subject: RE:[manet] Doubtful areas in RFC 3561 In-Reply-To: <000001c35a5c$c2296650$989b6686@scoobydoo> References: <000001c35a5c$c2296650$989b6686@scoobydoo> X-Mailer: VM 7.15 under Emacs 21.3.1 Reply-To: idc@cs.ucsb.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll do my best to answer your questions in-line. We'll incorporate these changes into the next draft. Ian Chakeres >Koojana Kuladinithi wrote: >Hi Charlie, Elizabeth & Samir > >We are working at implementing RFC 3561. Following paragraphs of RFC 3= 561 >seem to be confusing.=20 > >I would appreciate if you can have a look and give us your feedback. > >--------------------------------- >6.5 Processing & forwarding Route Requests > >Second paragraph says=20 >"First, it first increments the hop count value in the RREQ by one, > to account for the new hop through the intermediate node." > >Later paragraph (3rd) says > >"If a node does not generate a RREP (following the processing rules in= > section 6.6), and if the incoming IP header has TTL larger than 1, > the node updates and broadcasts the RREQ to address 255.255.255.255= > on each of its configured interfaces (see section 6.14). To update= > the RREQ, the TTL or hop limit field in the outgoing IP header > is decreased by one, and the Hop Count field in the RREQ message > is incremented by one, to account for the new hop through the > intermediate node." > >According to above explanations, hop count in RREQ is incremented 2 ti= mes=20 >by an intermediate node before broadcasting. Isn't this incorrect? Hop count should only be incremented once. =20 > >--------------------------------------- > >6.6 Generating Route Replies > >"When generating a RREP message, a node copies the Destination IP > Address and the Originator Sequence Number from the RREQ message > into the corresponding fields in the RREP message." > >There is no field in RREP to put Originator Sequence Number from the R= REQ This should read Originator IP Address instead of Originator Sequence Number. > >-------------------------------------------------- > >6.6.1 Route Reply Generation by the Destination > >"If the generating node is the destination itself, it MUST increment > its own sequence number by one if the sequence number in the > RREQ packet is equal to that incremented value. Otherwise, the > destination does not change its sequence number before generating > the RREP message." > >But, 6.1 says that destination node increments its own sequence number= , > >" - Immediately before a destination node originates a RREP in > response to a RREQ, it MUST update its own sequence number to > the maximum of its current sequence number and the destination > sequence number in the RREQ packet." > >These two statements seem contradictory. For example, if RREQ has=20 >seq =3D 20 & Destination node has seq =3D 22. =20 > >6.6.1 says that destination node should not increment its seq number > >6.1 says that destination node should increment its seq number to 23 > >What is correct? This was discussed on the list recently. It should read: - Immediately before a destination node issues a route reply in response to a RREQ, it MUST update its own sequence number to the maximum of its current sequence number and the destination sequence number in the RREQ packet plus one (1). >-------------------------------- > >Thanks in advance > >Kind regards > >Koojana > >University of Bremen >FB 1 =96 IKOM/ComNets >Koojana Kuladinithi BSc, MSc >Otto-Hahn-Allee NW 1 >28359 Bremen - Germany > >Tel.: +49 421 218 8264, Fax: +49 421 218 3601, Mobile: +49 160 2690070= >Email: kuladinithi@ikom.org=1B,A =1B(B=20 >=1B,A =1B(B koo@comnets.uni-bremen.de=20 >=1B,A =1B(B > > > >_______________________________________________ >manet mailing list >manet@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Aug 5 05:38:41 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id FAA06095 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 05:38:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19jyGl-0000om-Gk for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 05:38:16 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h759cFAR003138 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 05:38:15 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19jyGl-0000oX-CN for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 05:38:15 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id FAA06087 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 05:38:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19jyGh-0000mf-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 05:38:12 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19jyGh-0000mc-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 05:38:11 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19jyGX-0000nU-Oq; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 05:38:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19jyGQ-0000nH-0z for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 05:37:54 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id FAA06084 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 05:37:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19jyGM-0000mZ-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 05:37:50 -0400 Received: from sam.comnets.uni-bremen.de ([134.102.186.10] helo=bugs.comnets.uni-bremen.de) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19jyGL-0000mW-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 05:37:49 -0400 Received: from scoobydoo (scoobydoo.comnets.uni-bremen.de [134.102.155.152]) by bugs.comnets.uni-bremen.de (8.11.0/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with ESMTP id h759bdK10544; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 11:37:39 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: bugs.comnets.uni-bremen.de: Host scoobydoo.comnets.uni-bremen.de [134.102.155.152] claimed to be scoobydoo From: "Koojana Kuladinithi" To: Cc: , "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Carmelita_G=F6rg'?=" Subject: AW: [manet] Doubtful areas in RFC 3561 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 11:38:11 +0200 Message-ID: <000201c35b35$497f0000$989b6686@scoobydoo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <16174.32438.372973.689318@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ian, Thanks and still to clarify the following. > This was discussed on the list recently. It should read: > > - Immediately before a destination node issues a route reply in > response to a RREQ, it MUST update its own sequence number to the > maximum of its current sequence number and the destination > sequence number in the RREQ packet plus one (1). > > >-------------------------------- Even with this new text, I am not certain that I still can figure this out. From this para, I can see 2 possibilities of updating the destination sequence number, 1. ( Max ( current seq, RREQ seq ) ) + 1 2. Max ( current seq, ( RREQ seq + 1 ) ) What is right? Kind regards Koojana _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Aug 5 10:06:40 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA11774 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:06:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19k2S6-0008OH-In for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 10:06:15 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h75E6EEc032247 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:06:14 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19k2S6-0008O2-EO for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 10:06:14 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA11717 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:06:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19k2S4-0002D6-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 10:06:12 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19k2S3-0002D3-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 10:06:11 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19k2Rv-0008N0-0M; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 10:06:03 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19k2Qz-0008M8-Mb for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 10:05:05 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA11578 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:04:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19k2Qu-0002CC-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 10:05:00 -0400 Received: from letters.cs.ucsb.edu ([128.111.41.13]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19k2Qt-0002C8-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 10:04:59 -0400 Received: from kenai.cs.ucsb.edu (badlands.cs.ucsb.edu [128.111.40.116]) by letters.cs.ucsb.edu (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h75E4nS03811; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 07:04:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Ian Chakeres MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16175.47460.843185.304557@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 07:04:20 -0700 To: "Koojana Kuladinithi" Cc: , "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Carmelita_G=F6rg'?=" Subject: RE:AW: [manet] Doubtful areas in RFC 3561 In-Reply-To: <000201c35b35$497f0000$989b6686@scoobydoo> References: <16174.32438.372973.689318@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <000201c35b35$497f0000$989b6686@scoobydoo> X-Mailer: VM 7.15 under Emacs 21.3.1 Reply-To: idc@cs.ucsb.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Number 2 is correct. Ian Chakeres >Koojana Kuladinithi wrote: >Hi Ian, > >Thanks and still to clarify the following. > > >> This was discussed on the list recently. It should read: >> >> - Immediately before a destination node issues a route reply in >> response to a RREQ, it MUST update its own sequence number to the >> maximum of its current sequence number and the destination >> sequence number in the RREQ packet plus one (1). >> >> >-------------------------------- > >Even with this new text, I am not certain that I still can figure this >out. From this para, I can see 2 possibilities of updating the destination >sequence number, > >1. ( Max ( current seq, RREQ seq ) ) + 1 > >2. Max ( current seq, ( RREQ seq + 1 ) ) > > >What is right? > >Kind regards >Koojana > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Aug 5 16:34:40 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA27731 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 16:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19k8VZ-0007UN-Dd for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 16:34:13 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h75KYDtk028781 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 16:34:13 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19k8VZ-0007U8-7h for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 16:34:13 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA27712 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 16:34:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19k8VX-0005fS-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 16:34:11 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19k8VW-0005fP-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 16:34:10 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19k8VN-0007QG-AQ; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 16:34:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19k8V0-0007Px-0r for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 16:33:38 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA27699 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 16:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19k8Ux-0005fF-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 16:33:35 -0400 Received: from 66-152-29-4.ded.btitelecom.net ([66.152.29.4] helo=mail.scires.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19k8Ux-0005fA-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 16:33:35 -0400 Received: from SRCATL-MTA by mail.scires.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 16:34:21 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.2 Beta Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 16:34:00 -0400 From: "David Revill" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [manet] ODMRP Implementations Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I am currently looking for implementations of the ODMRP protocol, particularly those available on win32 platforms, but all pointers would be helpful. Does anyone know of any available implementations? Thanks, David Revill _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Aug 6 03:07:41 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA07807 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 03:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19kIOA-00023p-R2 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 03:07:15 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7677Ec9007912 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 03:07:14 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19kIOA-00023X-GW for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 03:07:14 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA07782 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 03:07:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19kIO6-0000zD-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 03:07:10 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19kIO6-0000zA-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 03:07:10 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19kINy-0001zX-PN; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 03:07:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19kIN5-0001xI-BZ for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 03:06:07 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA07760 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 03:06:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19kIN1-0000yh-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 03:06:03 -0400 Received: from sam.comnets.uni-bremen.de ([134.102.186.10] helo=bugs.comnets.uni-bremen.de) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19kIN0-0000ye-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 03:06:02 -0400 Received: from scoobydoo (scoobydoo.comnets.uni-bremen.de [134.102.155.152]) by bugs.comnets.uni-bremen.de (8.11.0/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with ESMTP id h7675qK31562; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:05:52 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: bugs.comnets.uni-bremen.de: Host scoobydoo.comnets.uni-bremen.de [134.102.155.152] claimed to be scoobydoo From: "Koojana Kuladinithi" To: Cc: , "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Carmelita_G=F6rg'?=" Subject: AW: AW: [manet] Doubtful areas in RFC 3561 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:07:54 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c35be9$7730cba0$989b6686@scoobydoo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <16175.47460.843185.304557@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ian > >> This was discussed on the list recently. It should read: > >> > >> - Immediately before a destination node issues a route reply in > >> response to a RREQ, it MUST update its own sequence number to the > >> maximum of its current sequence number and the destination > >> sequence number in the RREQ packet plus one (1). > >> > >> >-------------------------------- > > According to the new modification in section 6.1 (as mentioned above), Destination sequence is updated as follows. Seq num Dest. Seq new Dest. Seq in RREQ 22 21 23 21 21 22 20 21 21 19 21 21 But, in section 6.6.1 says, "If the generating node is the destination itself, it MUST increment its own sequence number by one if the sequence number in the RREQ packet is equal to that incremented value. Otherwise, the destination does not change its sequence number before generating the RREP message." Shouldn't the above paragraph (for section 6.6.1) now be written as follows (or similar manner)? "If the generating node is the destination itself, it MUST update its own sequence number to the sequence number in the RREQ packet plus one (1), if the sequence number in the RREQ packet is greater than or equal to the nodes own sequence number. Otherwise, the destination does not change its sequence number before generating the RREP message." Kind regards Koojana _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Aug 6 10:09:50 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA17418 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 10:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19kOyh-00070f-93 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 10:09:24 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h76E9NuC026941 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 10:09:23 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19kOyh-00070S-64 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 10:09:23 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA17375 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 10:09:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19kOyf-00034w-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 10:09:21 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19kOye-00034s-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 10:09:20 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19kOyL-0006zN-Pb; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 10:09:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19kOyH-0006yv-U4 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 10:08:58 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA17326 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 10:08:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19kOyF-00034k-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 10:08:55 -0400 Received: from letters.cs.ucsb.edu ([128.111.41.13]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19kOyE-00034e-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 10:08:55 -0400 Received: from kenai.cs.ucsb.edu (badlands.cs.ucsb.edu [128.111.40.116]) by letters.cs.ucsb.edu (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h76E86S27742; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 07:08:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Ian Chakeres MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16177.2983.240453.461000@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 07:07:35 -0700 To: "Koojana Kuladinithi" Cc: , "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Carmelita_G=F6rg'?=" Subject: RE:AW: AW: [manet] Doubtful areas in RFC 3561 In-Reply-To: <000001c35be9$7730cba0$989b6686@scoobydoo> References: <16175.47460.843185.304557@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <000001c35be9$7730cba0$989b6686@scoobydoo> X-Mailer: VM 7.15 under Emacs 21.3.1 Reply-To: idc@cs.ucsb.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Both will be updated to read the same. Ian Chakeres >Koojana Kuladinithi wrote: >Hi Ian > >> >> This was discussed on the list recently. It should read: >> >> >> >> - Immediately before a destination node issues a route reply in >> >> response to a RREQ, it MUST update its own sequence number to the >> >> maximum of its current sequence number and the destination >> >> sequence number in the RREQ packet plus one (1). >> >> >> >> >-------------------------------- >> > > >According to the new modification in section 6.1 (as mentioned above), >Destination sequence is updated as follows. > >Seq num Dest. Seq new Dest. Seq >in RREQ > 22 21 23 > 21 21 22 > 20 21 21 > 19 21 21 > > >But, in section 6.6.1 says, > >"If the generating node is the destination itself, it MUST increment > its own sequence number by one if the sequence number in the > RREQ packet is equal to that incremented value. Otherwise, the > destination does not change its sequence number before generating > the RREP message." > >Shouldn't the above paragraph (for section 6.6.1) now be written as follows >(or similar manner)? > >"If the generating node is the destination itself, it MUST update >its own sequence number to the sequence number in the RREQ packet plus one >(1), if the sequence number in the RREQ packet is greater than or equal to >the nodes own sequence number. Otherwise, the destination does not change >its sequence number before generating the RREP message." > >Kind regards > >Koojana > > >_______________________________________________ >manet mailing list >manet@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Aug 6 15:34:41 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA01775 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 15:34:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19kU34-0005lz-CK for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:34:14 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h76JYEoe022185 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 15:34:14 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19kU34-0005lk-8J for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:34:14 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA01760 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 15:34:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19kU32-0006FG-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:34:12 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19kU32-0006FD-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:34:12 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19kU2r-0005kb-RI; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:34:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19kU20-0005hO-8i for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:33:08 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA01737 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 15:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19kU1y-0006Ej-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:33:06 -0400 Received: from pophost.cs.tamu.edu ([128.194.130.106] helo=cs.tamu.edu ident=0) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19kU1y-0006Ef-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:33:06 -0400 Received: from unix.cs.tamu.edu (unix [128.194.138.13]) by cs.tamu.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h76JX5j01945 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 14:33:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (b0l4549@localhost) by unix.cs.tamu.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h76JX5t20679 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 14:33:05 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: unix.cs.tamu.edu: b0l4549 owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 14:33:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Bin Lu To: manet@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [manet] Insignia simulation Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Hi, Has anybody ever used Insignia model on new version of ns-2? I'm trying to install Insignia but found the it is designed on the old version of ns-2 and cmu-extendedns-1.1.2, while I'm using 2.1b9. I'd appreciate it very much if anybody can share experience with me or give me an idea on how to install and configure it! Thanks much! 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boundary="0-2084561439-1060309031=:9779" Subject: [manet] Is there any implementation of DDM (Differential Destination Multicast)? 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Hi,
 
Is there any implementation of DDM (Differential Destination Multicast), especially for ns-2 or Glomosim?
 
Thanks a lot.
 
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Yanchao Zhang

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SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software --0-2084561439-1060309031=:9779-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Aug 11 02:29:46 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA07999 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 02:29:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19m6BF-0005WY-OE for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 02:29:21 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7B6TLDD021227 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 02:29:21 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19m6BE-0005WI-Q2 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 02:29:20 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA07983 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 02:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19m6BB-0003NM-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 02:29:17 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19m6BA-0003NJ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 02:29:16 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19m6Aw-0005UC-6h; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 02:29:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19m6Aa-0005TG-BB for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 02:28:40 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA07971 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 02:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19m6AW-0003NB-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 02:28:36 -0400 Received: from smtp-send.myrealbox.com ([192.108.102.143]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19m6AV-0003N1-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 02:28:35 -0400 Received: from nppham [130.220.36.141] by myrealbox.com with NetMail ModWeb Module; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:58:34 +0950 From: "Peter Pham" To: manet@ietf.org CC: ns-users@isi.edu Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:58:34 +0950 X-Mailer: NetMail ModWeb Module X-Sender: nppham MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1060583314.ecbb3980nppham@myrealbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [manet] Documentation of MANET implementation in NS2 Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear fellows I am looking for the documation a) implementation of ad hoc routing protocol in ns2, i.e. dsdv, dsr, aodv= , tora...and b) implentation of propagation model, i.e. free space, two-ray... c) result analysis tools... from CMU or relevant institutions... Any pointer will be greatly appreciated... Peter Pham Peter Phuc Pham University of South Australia Institute for Telecommunication Research Phone: 61-883023869 Email: ppham@spri.levels.unisa.edu.au WWW: www.itr.unisa.edu.au/~ppham _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Aug 11 12:46:41 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA22602 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:46:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19mFoH-0002qC-81 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:46:18 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7BGkHBF010914 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:46:17 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19mFoH-0002px-38 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:46:17 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA22576 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:46:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19mFoF-00076P-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:46:15 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19mFoE-00076M-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:46:14 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19mFo1-0002nm-EJ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:46:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19mFnF-0002n0-Qe for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:45:13 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA22541 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:45:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19mFnE-00076A-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:45:12 -0400 Received: from gsyc064.dat.escet.urjc.es ([193.147.71.64] helo=gsyc.escet.urjc.es ident=root) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19mFnC-000767-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:45:11 -0400 Received: from mazinger.dat.escet.urjc.es (koji@gsyc119.dat.escet.urjc.es [193.147.71.119]) by gsyc.escet.urjc.es (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA20359 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:45:02 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: gsyc.escet.urjc.es: Host koji@gsyc119.dat.escet.urjc.es [193.147.71.119] claimed to be mazinger.dat.escet.urjc.es From: Miguel =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ortu=F1o?= To: manet@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <20030811160005.2046.51256.Mailman@www1.ietf.org> References: <20030811160005.2046.51256.Mailman@www1.ietf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 11 Aug 2003 18:45:01 +0200 Message-Id: <1060620301.4116.94.camel@mazinger> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [manet] Re: Documentation of MANET implementation in NS2 (Peter Pham) Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I know a little about dsr, and as far as I kwow there is not too much. I found useful http://www.monarch.cs.rice.edu/cmu-ns.html http://www.monarch.cs.rice.edu/ns-faq/faq.html and=20 http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/broch98performance.html (probably you knew those links) HTH, Miguel Ortu=F1o El lun, 11-08-2003 a las 18:00, manet-request@ietf.org escribi=F3: >=20 > From: "Peter Pham" > To: manet@ietf.org >=20 > Dear fellows=20 >=20 > I am looking for the documation > a) implementation of ad hoc routing protocol in ns2, i.e. dsdv, dsr, ao= dv=3D > , tora...and=20 > b) implentation of propagation model, i.e. free space, two-ray... > c) result analysis tools... _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Aug 14 11:18:13 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA14682 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19nJrD-0007eL-0h for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:17:47 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7EFHg7d029402 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:17:42 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19nJrC-0007e9-Ra for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:17:42 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA14654 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:17:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19nJrC-0003Kq-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:17:42 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19nJrB-0003Km-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:17:41 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19nJqZ-0007ZD-5t; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:17:03 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19nJqG-0007RZ-Ca for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:16:44 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA14598 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19nJqF-0003Jt-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:16:43 -0400 Received: from mail.cit.ie ([157.190.14.15]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19nJqE-0003JL-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:16:43 -0400 Received: from eeb253w2k (unverified [157.190.41.75]) by cit.ie (Rockliffe SMTPRA 5.3.4) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 16:11:02 +0100 Message-ID: <00fe01c36277$1c616100$4b29be9d@eeb253w2k> From: "John Paul O Grady" To: "Manet Mailing List" Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 16:16:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C3627F.71445C60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [manet] Estimating end to end delay Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C3627F.71445C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am looking for an algorithm for estimating end to end delay in a = manet. 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hi all,

i am using glomosim as a simulation tool for MANET.i hav a problem in compiling the driver.pc file.i use windows xp.

during compilation it shows a error in the 37th line of the driver.pc file.can anyone help me out.

thank you!!!

 

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The goal of Trusted Internet workshop is to provide a forum for researchers and practitioners to present and discuss their work and exchange ideas in the areas of Internet QoS, Internet Reliability, and Internet Security. To achieve this goal, this workshop solicits original, previously unpublished research contributions on (but not restricted to) the following subject categories of Trusted Internet: -- Internet QoS & VPN Design -- Content Distribution Networks -- Media Servers and Web Caching -- MPLS Networks & IP over WDM -- Denial of Service (DoS) & IP Traceback -- QoS/FT/Secure Routing and Multicasting -- QoS/FT/Security in Wireless, Mobile and Sensor Networks SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS All paper submissions will be handled electronically. Authors should prepare a PostScript or Portable Document Format (PDF) version of their paper. No other format will be accepted. By the submission deadline, please do the following: A. Send an Email with the title, authors and abstract to: Prof. Manimaran (gmani@iastate.edu) and Prof. Sivalingam (krishna@umbc.edu) B. Send the Final PDF/PS file by email to Prof. Krishna Sivalingam at krishna@umbc.edu Papers must meet the following restrictions: - The paper must be original material that has not been previously published nor is currently under review by another conference or journal. - Papers should be no longer than *8 pages* (two column is acceptable), in font no smaller than 10 points. These page limits include *all* material, i.e., figures, bibliography, etc. - The paper should fit properly on US Letter-sized paper (8.5x11 inches) - PostScript version 2 or later, or Portable Document Format (PDF) - Use only Computer Modern or standard Adobe printer fonts (i.e., Courier, Times, Roman, or Helvetica) - Other fonts may be used, but must be included in the PostScript/PDF file - The paper must be formatted for b/w printers and not color printers. All contributions will be refereed by the Program Committee. Each accepted paper must be presented at the workshop. Accepted papers will be available as part of the proceedings, at the workshop. Selected papers will be recommended for a special issue of the Journal of High Speed Networks (JHSN). IMPORTANT DATES --------------- * Submissions due: August 15, 2003 * Notification of acceptance: Sept. 15, 2003 * Final manuscript due: Sept. 30, 2003 * Workshop date: December 17, 2003 ORGANIZING COMMITTEE -------------------- GENERAL CO-CHAIRS ----------------- G. Manimaran Assistant Professor Dept. of ECpE Iowa State University Ames, IA 50011, USA Phone: 515 294 9175 Fax: 515 294 8432 Email: gmani@iastate.edu C. Siva Ram Murthy Professor Department of Computer Science IIT Chennai (formerly Madras) Chennai - 600 036, INDIA Email: murthy@iitm.ac.in TECHNICAL PROGRAM CHAIR ----------------------- Krishna Sivalingam Associate Professor Department of CSEE 1000 Hilltop Circle University of Maryland Baltimore County Baltimore, MD 21250 Email: krishna@cs.umbc.edu Phone: 1-410-455-3961 Fax: 1-410-455-3969 TECHNICAL PROGRAM COMMITTEE --------------------------- Abdelmadjid Bouabdallah, UTC, France Albert Banchs, NEC Europe, Germany Arul Sironmoney, Anna University, India Byrav Ramamurthy, University of Nebraska, USA Mohan Gurusamy, NUS, Singapore Padma Mundur, UMBC, USA Prasant Mohapatra, University of California, Davis, USA Sudebkumar Prasant Pal, IIT Kharagpur, India Surendar Chandra, Univ. of Notre Dame, USA Suresh Subramaniam, George Washington University, USA PUBLICITY CHAIR --------------- Surendar Chandra, Univ. of Notre Dame, USA ====================================================================== _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Aug 15 15:13:21 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA09436 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:13:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19nk0J-0004V1-Qx for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:12:54 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7FJCpJ3017295 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:12:51 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19nk0J-0004Us-Ll for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:12:51 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA09376 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:12:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19nk0I-0005ER-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:12:50 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19nk0H-0005EO-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:12:49 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19njzT-0004HH-UU; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:11:59 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19njz2-0004Gr-8s for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:11:32 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA09239 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19njyz-0005Df-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:11:29 -0400 Received: from mailb.its.uidaho.edu ([129.101.155.251]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19njyy-0005Db-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:11:28 -0400 Received: from uidaho.edu (mailB [129.101.155.251]) by mailB.its.uidaho.edu (Go Vandals!) with ESMTP id <0HJO002BEDAAN8@mailB.its.uidaho.edu> for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.101.155.210] by mailB.its.uidaho.edu (mshttpd); Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:10:58 -0700 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:10:58 -0700 From: Jianqiang Zeng To: manet@ietf.org Message-id: <111bf6110e33.110e33111bf6@uidaho.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: [manet] Problem in running OPNET model simulation Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi, everybody, I am using OPNET to simulate the MANETs. I downloaded some routing protocol models , when I tried to run simulation on my PC, the simulation was terminated. It seems that there are some problems in rebuilding repository. Does this kind of problem caused by using different platform or different version of OPNET? Any advice will be most appreciately! Thanks Best Regards Jianqiang zeng the message was displayed as ----- <<< Recoverable Error >>> Object repository construction failed due to errors encountered by the binder program (bind_so_msvc) ----- <<< Program Abort >>> Error encountered rebuilding repository -- unable to proceed And following is the bind_err file: BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _print_simple_Link_State_Tree already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _print_simple_Link_State_Table already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _print_Link_State_Tree already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _print_Link_State_Table already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _init_Link_State_Table already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _new_Link_State_Tree already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _add_to_Link_State_Tree already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _add_to_Link_State_Table already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _insert_node_in_Link_State_Tree already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _delete_Link_State_Tree already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _receive_link_state_packet already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _send_link_state_packet already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _construct_Routing_Table_from_Net_Node already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _construct_Routing_Table_from_Net_Graph already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _construct_Routing_Table_from_Link_State_Table already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _update_Link_State_Tree already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _update_Link_State_Table already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _transfer_Link_State_Tree already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _transfer_Link_State_Table already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _print_Beacon_List already defined in app.i0.pr.o beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _print_Beacon_Table already defined in app.i0.pr.o beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _new_Beacon_List already defined in app.i0.pr.o beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _init_Beacon_Table already defined in app.i0.pr.o beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _add_to_Beacon_List already defined in app.i0.pr.o beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _add_to_Beacon_Table already defined in app.i0.pr.o beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _remove_from_Beacon_List already defined in app.i0.pr.o beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _remove_from_Beacon_Table already defined in app.i0.pr.o beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _delete_Beacon_List already defined in app.i0.pr.o beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _clear_Beacon_Table already defined in app.i0.pr.o beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _get_current_event_in_Beacon_List already defined in app.i0.pr.o beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _get_current_event_in_Beacon_Table already defined in app.i0.pr.o BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _print_simple_Link_State_Tree already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _print_simple_Link_State_Table already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _print_Link_State_Tree already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _print_Link_State_Table already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _init_Link_State_Table already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _new_Link_State_Tree already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _add_to_Link_State_Tree already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _add_to_Link_State_Table already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _insert_node_in_Link_State_Tree already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _delete_Link_State_Tree already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _receive_link_state_packet already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _send_link_state_packet already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _construct_Routing_Table_from_Net_Node already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _construct_Routing_Table_from_Net_Graph already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _construct_Routing_Table_from_Link_State_Table already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _update_Link_State_Tree already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _update_Link_State_Table already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _transfer_Link_State_Tree already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _transfer_Link_State_Table already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _print_Beacon_List already defined in app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _print_Beacon_Table already defined in app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _new_Beacon_List already defined in app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _init_Beacon_Table already defined in app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _add_to_Beacon_List already defined in app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _add_to_Beacon_Table already defined in app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _remove_from_Beacon_List already defined in app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _remove_from_Beacon_Table already defined in app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _delete_Beacon_List already defined in app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _clear_Beacon_Table already defined in app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _get_current_event_in_Beacon_List already defined in app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _get_current_event_in_Beacon_Table already defined in app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored Creating library C:\Program Files\OPNET\9.1.A\models\std\mzrp_doc\zrp-50_node.i0.nt.lib and object C:\Program Files\OPNET\9.1.A\models\std\mzrp_doc\zrp-50_node.i0.nt.exp C:\Program Files\OPNET\9.1.A\models\std\mzrp_doc\zrp-50_node.i0.nt.so : fatal error LNK1169: one or more multiply defined symbols found _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Aug 15 15:26:16 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA10424 for ; 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Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:25:46 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19nkC5-0005F3-UU; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:25:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19nkBQ-0005ER-21 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:24:20 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA10312 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:24:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19nkBO-0005Ks-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:24:18 -0400 Received: from wexford-2.cmcl.cs.cmu.edu ([128.2.198.115]) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19nkBN-0005Kl-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:24:17 -0400 Received: from wexford-2.cmcl.cs.cmu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by wexford-2.cmcl.cs.cmu.edu id aa09479; 15 Aug 2003 15:23 EDT From: Dave Maltz To: Young-Jun Lee cc: manet@ietf.org, dmaltz@cs.cmu.edu Subject: Re: [manet] Request table and ID FIFO cache of DSR References: Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:23:27 -0400 Message-Id: Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , In message , Young-J un Lee writes: >I'm trying to implement DSR protocol in a simulation tool. >While reading the DSR draft (draft-ietf-manet-dsr-08.txt), >I found the request table structure a little bit confusing. > >In Page 28 of the draft, it says route request table records information >about route request, i.e. using ID fifo cache. >Does this mean that this ID fifo cache is a field of request table entry? >Or, is the ID fifo cache a separate data structure? My intention was that the ID cache is a field of the request table entry, although you do not have to design it that way. The DSR spec only defines the conceptual data structure for a Route Request table. The requirments are that given a src and an ID, a node must be able to determine whether it has already forwarded route request #ID from that src. The node should not remember more than RequestTableIds IDs. >I checked the DSR model in ns-2 and the DSR linux implementation by univ. >Colorado, but both do not have any data structure like ID fifo cache. >I'd appreciate it if anybody gives me some hints on this. The reason for limiting the cache to contain only RequestTableIds IDs is that when a node reboots it may lose track of what IDs were on its recent Route Requests. If the node is extremely unlucky, it might reuse IDs it had already sent, causing neighbors to drop the new Route Requests as duplicates. Limiting the amount of history the neighbors can store limits the total length of time the node can be unlucky (the counter balancing factor that keeps us from setting RequestTableIds to 1 is that for Route Discovery to be most efficient, a single node should not have more than RequestTableIds Route Requests outstanding at one time). Since we did not intend our ns-2 simulations to model individual nodes crashing and rebooting, we did not implement the ID cache in the ns-2 model. We did implement it in our FreeBSD kernel implementation. (available from www.monarch.rice.edu, see freebsd/sys/dsr/requesttable.h) Cheers, -dam _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Aug 15 16:35:56 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA12729 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:35:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19nlII-0001aD-3f for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:35:30 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7FKZU2J006084 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:35:30 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19nlIH-0001a3-VS for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:35:29 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA12671 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:35:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19nlIF-0005tM-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:35:27 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19nlIF-0005tJ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:35:27 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19nlHq-0001Vf-3c; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:35:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19nlH0-0001UU-0Q for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:34:10 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA12561 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:34:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19nlGx-0005r8-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:34:07 -0400 Received: from mailserver1.opnet.com ([12.145.55.23]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19nlGw-0005qs-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:34:07 -0400 Received: from wtn11055.opnet.com (wtn11055.opnet.com [172.16.11.55]) by mailserver1.opnet.com (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7FKXwGu012813; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20030815155141.031a6eb0@mailserver.opnet.com> X-Sender: jlee@mailserver.opnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:33:57 -0400 To: Jianqiang Zeng , manet@ietf.org From: Jay J Lee Subject: Re: [manet] Problem in running OPNET model simulation In-Reply-To: <111bf6110e33.110e33111bf6@uidaho.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-MailScanner: Not scanned: Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , It seems that the two process models have two functions with the same name. One of these two process models was probably created by renaming the other one. I would first check whether the two processes were meant to work in a same simulation or not. Did the model come with the instruction on running simulations? Secondly you can bypass this linking error by declaring these functions as static. For example you would open the BRP and IARP_LS_timer process models and declare the function prototype of "print_simple_Link_State_Tree()" as "static" in the header block as well as the function definition in the function block. Hope this helps, - Jay At 12:10 PM 8/15/2003 -0700, Jianqiang Zeng wrote: >hi, everybody, I am using OPNET to simulate the MANETs. I downloaded some >routing protocol models , when I tried to run simulation on my PC, the >simulation was terminated. It seems that there are some problems in >rebuilding repository. Does this kind of problem caused by using different >platform or different version of OPNET? Any advice will be most >appreciately! Thanks > >Best Regards >Jianqiang zeng > >the message was displayed as >----- ><<< Recoverable Error >>> >Object repository construction failed >due to errors encountered by the binder program (bind_so_msvc) >----- ><<< Program Abort >>> >Error encountered rebuilding repository -- unable to proceed >And following is the bind_err file: >BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _print_simple_Link_State_Tree already defined >in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o >BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _print_simple_Link_State_Table already >defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o >BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _print_Link_State_Tree already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o >BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _print_Link_State_Table already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o >BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _init_Link_State_Table already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o >BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _new_Link_State_Tree already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o >BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _add_to_Link_State_Tree already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o >BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _add_to_Link_State_Table already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o >BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _insert_node_in_Link_State_Tree already >defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o >BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _delete_Link_State_Tree already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o >BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _receive_link_state_packet already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o >BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _send_link_state_packet already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o >BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _construct_Routing_Table_from_Net_Node >already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o >BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _construct_Routing_Table_from_Net_Graph >already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o >BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: >_construct_Routing_Table_from_Link_State_Table already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o >BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _update_Link_State_Tree already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o >BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _update_Link_State_Table already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o >BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _transfer_Link_State_Tree already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o >BRP.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _transfer_Link_State_Table already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o >beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _print_Beacon_List already defined in >app.i0.pr.o >beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _print_Beacon_Table already defined in >app.i0.pr.o >beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _new_Beacon_List already defined in >app.i0.pr.o >beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _init_Beacon_Table already defined in >app.i0.pr.o >beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _add_to_Beacon_List already defined in >app.i0.pr.o >beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _add_to_Beacon_Table already defined in >app.i0.pr.o >beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _remove_from_Beacon_List already defined >in app.i0.pr.o >beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _remove_from_Beacon_Table already defined >in app.i0.pr.o >beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _delete_Beacon_List already defined in >app.i0.pr.o >beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _clear_Beacon_Table already defined in >app.i0.pr.o >beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _get_current_event_in_Beacon_List already >defined in app.i0.pr.o >beacon.i0.pr.o : error LNK2005: _get_current_event_in_Beacon_Table already >defined in app.i0.pr.o >BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _print_simple_Link_State_Tree already >defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _print_simple_Link_State_Table already >defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _print_Link_State_Tree already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _print_Link_State_Table already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _init_Link_State_Table already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _new_Link_State_Tree already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _add_to_Link_State_Tree already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _add_to_Link_State_Table already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _insert_node_in_Link_State_Tree already >defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _delete_Link_State_Tree already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _receive_link_state_packet already defined >in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _send_link_state_packet already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _construct_Routing_Table_from_Net_Node >already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _construct_Routing_Table_from_Net_Graph >already defined in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: >_construct_Routing_Table_from_Link_State_Table already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _update_Link_State_Tree already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _update_Link_State_Table already defined in >IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _transfer_Link_State_Tree already defined >in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >BRP.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _transfer_Link_State_Table already defined >in IARP_LS_timer.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _print_Beacon_List already defined in >app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _print_Beacon_Table already defined in >app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _new_Beacon_List already defined in >app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _init_Beacon_Table already defined in >app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _add_to_Beacon_List already defined in >app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _add_to_Beacon_Table already defined in >app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _remove_from_Beacon_List already defined >in app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _remove_from_Beacon_Table already >defined in app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _delete_Beacon_List already defined in >app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _clear_Beacon_Table already defined in >app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _get_current_event_in_Beacon_List >already defined in app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored >beacon.i0.pr.o : warning LNK4006: _get_current_event_in_Beacon_Table >already defined in app.i0.pr.o; second definition ignored > Creating library C:\Program > Files\OPNET\9.1.A\models\std\mzrp_doc\zrp-50_node.i0.nt.lib and object > C:\Program Files\OPNET\9.1.A\models\std\mzrp_doc\zrp-50_node.i0.nt.exp >C:\Program Files\OPNET\9.1.A\models\std\mzrp_doc\zrp-50_node.i0.nt.so : >fatal error LNK1169: one or more multiply defined symbols found > > > >_______________________________________________ >manet mailing list >manet@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Sun Aug 17 02:52:55 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA08227 for ; 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I am looking for an algorithm for estimating end to end delay in a manet. An algorithm where I could specify a number of different parameters such as num of nodes, bandwidth etc and obtain an estimate of the delay in the network.
 
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C3648C.19D0F6F0-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Aug 18 01:00:44 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA28442 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19oc7t-0006Pv-92 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:00:17 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7I50Hw6024661 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:00:17 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19oc7t-0006Pg-40 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:00:17 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA28433 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:00:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19oc7q-0004lq-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:00:14 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19oc7p-0004ln-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:00:13 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19oc7e-0006Nv-9e; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:00:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19oc6m-0006My-Rx for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 00:59:08 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA28376 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 00:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19oc6k-0004kp-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 00:59:06 -0400 Received: from ponyexpress.ee.columbia.edu ([128.59.64.61] ident=[zQWNSpe9dWZn5vQkZyNxNhPkBR43xwDZ]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19oc6j-0004km-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 00:59:05 -0400 Received: from SHAMAN (24-90-174-36.nj.rr.com [24.90.174.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by ponyexpress.ee.columbia.edu (8.12.8/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h7I4x6pN004230 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 00:59:06 -0400 Message-ID: <005b01c36544$f120b560$24ae5a18@SHAMAN> From: "Gahng-Seop Ahn" To: Subject: [manet] SWAN source code release Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 00:55:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, The SWAN testbed source code for Linux and ns-2 code is available from http://comet.columbia.edu/swan SWAN suports a stateless network model that uses distributed control algorithms to support "soft" real-time services and service differentiation in mobile ad hoc networks. The SWAN webpage also includes publications, an ID, and other support documentation. Best Regards, Gahng-Seop Ahn _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Aug 18 02:35:46 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA11923 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:35:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19odbr-0001s2-Q6 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:35:20 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7I6ZJwP007190 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:35:19 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19odbr-0001rt-I3 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:35:19 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA11914 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19odbn-0005C7-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:35:16 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19odbn-0005C4-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:35:15 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19odbZ-0001qL-CV; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:35:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19odbT-0001py-Tu for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:34:55 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA11888 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:34:51 -0400 (EDT) From: ha33@drexel.edu Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19odbQ-0005Bp-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:34:52 -0400 Received: from mail.drexel.edu ([144.118.25.40]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19odbP-0005Bm-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:34:51 -0400 Received: from shim2.irt.drexel.edu (shim2.irt.drexel.edu [144.118.25.82]) by mail.drexel.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2001.07.26.11.50.p9) with ESMTP id <0HJS00A3EY8K8W@mail.drexel.edu> for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.shim2.irt.drexel.edu by shim2.irt.drexel.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) id <0HJS00101Y5QR6@shim2.irt.drexel.edu> for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from glue.irt.drexel.edu (glue.irt.drexel.edu [144.118.25.22]) by shim2.irt.drexel.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HJS00FIJY8K9D@shim2.irt.drexel.edu> for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from drexel.edu ([192.168.5.137]) by glue.irt.drexel.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h7I6XtU04036 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:33:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [144.118.29.48] by mail2.prvt.drexel.edu (mshttpd); Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:33:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:33:50 -0400 To: manet@ietf.org Message-id: <2a6aa62a8c5a.2a8c5a2a6aa6@drexel.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: [manet] interference problem Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi, Forgive me if this problem has already been discussed on the list. Consider a simple scenario of 6 nodes in a chain : 0 -- 1 -- 2 -- 3 -- 4 -- 5 Each node is at a distance of 150 m from each other. The reception range of each node is 250 m and the interference range/sensing range is 500 m. Node 0 is the source node transmitting UPD packets at a constant rate (say x packets/sec) and node 5 is the sink node or destination node. The link layer is based on CSMA/CA. Node 4 is thus at a distance of 450 m from node 1 and 600 m from node 0. Hence, node 0 cannot hear any transmissions from node 4 (out of interference/sensing range), but transmissions from node 4 can interfere with reception at node 1. Since node 0 cannot hear node 4 transmitting (hence CSMA/CA doesnt work here), it transmits to node 1 even when node 4 is transmitting. This results in collisions at node 1 and the throughput of the network drops drastically. The CTS-RTS-DATA-ACK scheme doesnt work here. Has this problem been addressed anywhere? Are there any papers that suggest solutions to this problem? thanks, Harpreet S. Arora Research Assistant, ITCSL Drexel University Philadelphia, PA-19104 Ph : 215-895-6198 _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Aug 18 05:16:44 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA14211 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 05:16:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19og7e-0006sJ-KN for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 05:16:18 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7I9GIKU026423 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 05:16:18 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19og7e-0006s6-HK for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 05:16:18 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA14205 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 05:16:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19og7b-0005vQ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 05:16:15 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19og7a-0005vN-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 05:16:14 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19og7O-0006r2-Ql; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 05:16:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19og6l-0006qX-0x for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 05:15:23 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA14199 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 05:15:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19og6h-0005vK-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 05:15:19 -0400 Received: from wasp.ece.queensu.ca ([130.15.19.4]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19og6h-0005vG-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 05:15:19 -0400 Received: from acer7k2wrwolsy ([24.226.47.100]) by wasp.ECE.QUEENSU.CA with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 18 Aug 2003 05:15:48 -0400 From: "Chi-Hsiang Yeh" To: , Subject: RE: [manet] interference problem Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 05:14:51 -0400 Message-ID: <000101c36569$31acde50$642fe218@acer7k2wrwolsy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <2a6aa62a8c5a.2a8c5a2a6aa6@drexel.edu> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Aug 2003 09:15:48.0843 (UTC) FILETIME=[50399BB0:01C36569] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Harpreet, There are a number of solutions to this problem: (1) Reduce the threshold for sensing so that node 1 and node 4 can hear each other. Problem 1: This is not always feasible, especially when (A) the path loss exponent is large (e.g., 3-4) or unknown, (B) when power-controlled MAC protocols are employed. Problem 2: This introduces inefficiency due to the "interference-range exposed terminal problem". For various unique problems concerning MAC protocols in ad hoc networks, see [1] Yeh, C.-H., "The advance access mechanism for differentiated service, power control, and radio efficiency in ad hoc MAC protocols," Proc. IEEE Vehicular Technology Conf., Oct. 2003, to appear. (2) An intended receiver replies with a CTS only when the signal strength from the intended transmitter is sufficiently strong. See [2] Kaixin Xu, M. Gerla, and Sang Bae, "How effective is the IEEE 802.11 RTS/CTS handshake in ad hoc networks?" IEEE Globecom'02, 2002, pp. 72 -76. Problem 1: Power-controlled MAC protocols are more efficient than this fixed-power solution in terms of both throughput and power consumption. Problem 2: Some nodes that can transmit to each other without causing collisions are forbidden to transmit. This can be viewed as another form of the exposed terminal problem. (3) The RTS-CTS-DATA-ACK scheme actually works if control messages are sent in a separate control channels and RTS/CTS messages are sent to nodes within the interference range (or an enlarged "protection range" as assumed in most of my papers on ad hoc MAC protocols). Problem: RTS/CTS messages have to be sent to a large interference/protection range. One way to solve it is to relay them, but this is not perfect nor efficient. For more details, see [3] Yeh, C.-H., "High-throughput Interference-aware MAC Protocols for Heterogeneous Ad Hoc Networks and Multihop Wireless LANs," Proc. IEEE Globecom'03, Dec. 2003, to appear. (4) Use busy tone with a very large range. See [4] Monks, J.P., V. Bharghavan, W.-M.W. Hwu, "A power controlled multiple access protocol for wireless packet networks," IEEE INFOCOM'01, 2001, pp. 219-228. Problem: Busy tone consumes power, while the time required for detecting "periodical busy tone" (as in PCMA) reduces throughput. Chihsiang ___________________________________________________________ Chi-Hsiang Yeh (Mr./Dr./Prof.) Dept. of Electrical & Computer Eng. Queen's University Kingston, Ontario, K7L 3N6 Canada phone: +1 613-533-6368 fax: +1 613-533-6615 e-mail: chi-hsiang.yeh@ece.queensu.ca , yeh@ee.queensu.ca URL: http://www.ece.queensu.ca/hpages/faculty/yeh/ ___________________________________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: manet-admin@ietf.org [mailto:manet-admin@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of ha33@drexel.edu > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 2:34 AM > To: manet@ietf.org > Subject: [manet] interference problem > > > Hi, > > Forgive me if this problem has already been discussed on the list. > > Consider a simple scenario of 6 nodes in a chain : > > 0 -- 1 -- 2 -- 3 -- 4 -- 5 > > Each node is at a distance of 150 m from each other. The > reception range of each node is 250 m and the interference > range/sensing range is 500 m. Node 0 is the source node > transmitting UPD packets at a constant rate (say x > packets/sec) and node 5 is the sink node or destination node. > The link layer is based on CSMA/CA. Node 4 is thus at a > distance of 450 m from node 1 and 600 m from node 0. Hence, > node 0 cannot hear any transmissions from node 4 (out of > interference/sensing range), but transmissions from node 4 > can interfere with reception at node 1. Since node 0 cannot > hear node 4 transmitting (hence CSMA/CA doesnt work here), it > transmits to node 1 even when node 4 is transmitting. This > results in collisions at node 1 and the throughput of the > network drops drastically. The CTS-RTS-DATA-ACK scheme doesnt > work here. Has this problem been addressed anywhere? Are > there any papers that suggest solutions to this problem? > > thanks, > Harpreet S. Arora > Research Assistant, ITCSL > Drexel University > Philadelphia, PA-19104 > Ph : 215-895-6198 > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Aug 18 14:11:59 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA27942 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ooTa-0007Wo-PE for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:11:33 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7IIBUJK028939 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:11:30 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ooTa-0007Wg-IT for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:11:30 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA27936 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ooTY-0001Mu-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:11:28 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ooTX-0001Mr-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:11:27 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ooT8-0007Rw-A0; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:11:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ooSQ-0007RP-QE for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:10:18 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA27898 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:10:14 -0400 (EDT) From: ha33@drexel.edu Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ooSO-0001Mi-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:10:16 -0400 Received: from mail.drexel.edu ([144.118.25.40]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ooSN-0001Mf-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:10:15 -0400 Received: from shim2.irt.drexel.edu (shim2.irt.drexel.edu [144.118.25.82]) by mail.drexel.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2001.07.26.11.50.p9) with ESMTP id <0HJT004IAUH1OS@mail.drexel.edu> for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.shim2.irt.drexel.edu by shim2.irt.drexel.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) id <0HJT00101UERNR@shim2.irt.drexel.edu>; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from glue.irt.drexel.edu (glue.irt.drexel.edu [144.118.25.22]) by shim2.irt.drexel.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HJT00MLJUH0Z9@shim2.irt.drexel.edu>; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from drexel.edu ([192.168.5.137]) by glue.irt.drexel.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h7IIACU00154; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.5.136] by mail2.prvt.drexel.edu (mshttpd); Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:08:53 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:08:53 -0400 Subject: Re: RE: [manet] interference problem To: Chi-Hsiang Yeh Cc: manet@ietf.org Message-id: <2c69362caefe.2caefe2c6936@drexel.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi, thanks for all the pointers. All the solutions have corresponding problems associated with them. DOes this imply that there is no clean solution to this problem yet? I am asking this because I am looking at the MAC layer from QoS point of view. With such problems crippling the network, there is no way any QoS guarantees can be provided in ad hoc networks. thanks, harpreet ----- Original Message ----- From: Chi-Hsiang Yeh Date: Monday, August 18, 2003 5:14 am Subject: RE: [manet] interference problem > Hi, Harpreet, > > There are a number of solutions to this problem: > > (1) Reduce the threshold for sensing so that node 1 and node 4 can > heareach other. > > Problem 1: This is not always feasible, especially when > (A) the path loss exponent is large (e.g., 3-4) or unknown, > (B) when power-controlled MAC protocols are employed. > Problem 2: This introduces inefficiency due to the "interference- > rangeexposed terminal problem". For various unique problems > concerning MAC > protocols in ad hoc networks, see > > [1] Yeh, C.-H., "The advance access mechanism for differentiated > service, power control, and radio efficiency in ad hoc MAC protocols," > Proc. IEEE Vehicular Technology Conf., Oct. 2003, to appear. > > (2) An intended receiver replies with a CTS only when the signal > strength from the intended transmitter is sufficiently strong. See > > [2] Kaixin Xu, M. Gerla, and Sang Bae, "How effective is the IEEE > 802.11 RTS/CTS handshake in ad hoc networks?" IEEE Globecom'02, 2002, > pp. 72 -76. > > Problem 1: Power-controlled MAC protocols are more efficient > than this > fixed-power solution in terms of both throughput and power > consumption. Problem 2: Some nodes that can transmit to each > other without causing > collisions are forbidden to transmit. This can be viewed as > another form > of the exposed terminal problem. > > (3) The RTS-CTS-DATA-ACK scheme actually works if control messages are > sent in a separate control channels and RTS/CTS messages are sent to > nodes within the interference range (or an enlarged "protection range" > as assumed in most of my papers on ad hoc MAC protocols). > > Problem: RTS/CTS messages have to be sent to a large > interference/protection range. One way to solve it is to relay > them, but > this is not perfect nor efficient. For more details, see > > [3] Yeh, C.-H., "High-throughput Interference-aware MAC > Protocols for > Heterogeneous Ad Hoc Networks and Multihop Wireless LANs," Proc. IEEE > Globecom'03, Dec. 2003, to appear. > > (4) Use busy tone with a very large range. See > > [4] Monks, J.P., V. Bharghavan, W.-M.W. Hwu, "A power controlled > multiple access protocol for wireless packet networks," IEEE > INFOCOM'01,2001, pp. 219-228. > > Problem: Busy tone consumes power, while the time required for > detecting "periodical busy tone" (as in PCMA) reduces throughput. > > Chihsiang > ___________________________________________________________ > > Chi-Hsiang Yeh (Mr./Dr./Prof.) > Dept. of Electrical & Computer Eng. > Queen's University > Kingston, Ontario, K7L 3N6 > Canada > > phone: +1 613-533-6368 > fax: +1 613-533-6615 > e-mail: chi-hsiang.yeh@ece.queensu.ca , yeh@ee.queensu.ca > URL: http://www.ece.queensu.ca/hpages/faculty/yeh/ > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: manet-admin@ietf.org [manet-admin@ietf.org] On > > Behalf Of ha33@drexel.edu > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 2:34 AM > > To: manet@ietf.org > > Subject: [manet] interference problem > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Forgive me if this problem has already been discussed on the list. > > > > Consider a simple scenario of 6 nodes in a chain : > > > > 0 -- 1 -- 2 -- 3 -- 4 -- 5 > > > > Each node is at a distance of 150 m from each other. The > > reception range of each node is 250 m and the interference > > range/sensing range is 500 m. Node 0 is the source node > > transmitting UPD packets at a constant rate (say x > > packets/sec) and node 5 is the sink node or destination node. > > The link layer is based on CSMA/CA. Node 4 is thus at a > > distance of 450 m from node 1 and 600 m from node 0. Hence, > > node 0 cannot hear any transmissions from node 4 (out of > > interference/sensing range), but transmissions from node 4 > > can interfere with reception at node 1. Since node 0 cannot > > hear node 4 transmitting (hence CSMA/CA doesnt work here), it > > transmits to node 1 even when node 4 is transmitting. This > > results in collisions at node 1 and the throughput of the > > network drops drastically. The CTS-RTS-DATA-ACK scheme doesnt > > work here. Has this problem been addressed anywhere? Are > > there any papers that suggest solutions to this problem? > > > > thanks, > > Harpreet S. Arora > > Research Assistant, ITCSL > > Drexel University > > Philadelphia, PA-19104 > > Ph : 215-895-6198 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > manet mailing list > > manet@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > > > > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Aug 18 20:38:41 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA10618 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:38:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ouVr-00048N-Af for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:38:15 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7J0cFIL015885 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:38:15 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ouVr-000488-6p for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:38:15 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA10575 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ouVo-0003kx-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:38:13 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ouVo-0003ku-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:38:12 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ouVd-00043z-9k; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:38:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ouUz-0003tv-Pi for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:37:21 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA10541 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:37:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ouUx-0003kL-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:37:19 -0400 Received: from law12-f8.law12.hotmail.com ([64.4.19.8] helo=hotmail.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ouUw-0003kB-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:37:19 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 17:36:49 -0700 Received: from 129.110.93.15 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 00:36:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [129.110.93.15] X-Originating-Email: [divya_lakshmi@hotmail.com] From: "Divya Lakshmi Shivakumar" To: manet@ietf.org Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 17:36:48 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Aug 2003 00:36:49.0178 (UTC) FILETIME=[F9F38FA0:01C365E9] Subject: [manet] Help needed in getting the routing trace in GloMoSim Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Hello, I am new to GloMoSim mailing list. I want to run AODV and DSR protocols in GloMoSim and analyze the routing trace as we get in NS-2. In NS-2, there is a .tr file which will have information about the position of a node at different time instants, the route to a destination, the intermediate nodes in a route (for the case of AODV), etc. I want to get something similar to that in GloMoSim. Basically, all i need are the following: (1) Position of a node at any instant during the simulation (2) The origin time of a route, endtime of a route and the actual intermediate nodes in a route (3) The time, the application layer is sending the packet to the network layer and the time the application layer at the destination gets the packet from its network layer (4) The link-to-link delay in a route I saw the output in glomo.stat and it doesn't contain all the above information. Can any one please tell me how to get the above information? Please help. It will be very useful to me. thanks, Divya _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: Get 6 months for $9.95/month http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Aug 19 16:07:52 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA06491 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:07:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pClI-00006W-MK for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:07:26 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7JK7OWs000392 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:07:24 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pClI-00006C-I9 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:07:24 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA06473 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:07:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pClG-0007Ev-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:07:22 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pClG-0007Er-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:07:22 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pCkw-0008Q8-75; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:07:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pCko-0008Ot-SH for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:06:55 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA06423 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pCkn-0007Do-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:06:53 -0400 Received: from capella.nps.navy.mil ([131.120.254.83] helo=[140.32.132.66]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pCkm-0007Dl-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:06:52 -0400 Received: from no.name.available by [140.32.132.66] via smtpd (for [132.151.6.1]) with ESMTP; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 13:03:13 -0700 Received: from ro178-30.ro.nps.navy.mil (ro178-30.ro.nps.navy.mil [131.120.178.30]) by capella.nps.navy.mil (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7JK5jxK021990; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 13:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: RE: [manet] interference problem From: Rex Buddenberg To: ha33@drexel.edu Cc: Chi-Hsiang Yeh , manet@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <2c69362caefe.2caefe2c6936@drexel.edu> References: <2c69362caefe.2caefe2c6936@drexel.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1061323160.3748.24.camel@ro178-30.ro.nps.navy.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Date: 19 Aug 2003 12:59:20 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harpreet, There are several bandaids, some of which have been discussed on this group before, that help. But the abstract observation is that CSMA (whether CD or CA notwithstanding) runs on the underlying assumption that everybody can hear everybody else. Vanilla 802.11 warps that assumption a bit but leaves it essentially intact and for a single AP that's wired into a backbone, it survives. But the defects show up in - inefficiency (undetected collisions) - cross-net interferences (your illustration) Your illustration gets to the point where the assumption is breaking -- the MAC can not work effectively on the hear-everyone assumption. Suggest that this will take you into relooking at the MAC ... which is outside the scope of MANET. On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 11:08, ha33@drexel.edu wrote: > Hi, > > thanks for all the pointers. All the solutions have corresponding problems associated with them. DOes this imply that there is no clean solution to this problem yet? I am asking this because I am looking at the MAC layer from QoS point of view. With such problems crippling the network, there is no way any QoS guarantees can be provided in ad hoc networks. > > thanks, > harpreet > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chi-Hsiang Yeh > Date: Monday, August 18, 2003 5:14 am > Subject: RE: [manet] interference problem > > > Hi, Harpreet, > > > > There are a number of solutions to this problem: > > > > (1) Reduce the threshold for sensing so that node 1 and node 4 can > > heareach other. > > > > Problem 1: This is not always feasible, especially when > > (A) the path loss exponent is large (e.g., 3-4) or unknown, > > (B) when power-controlled MAC protocols are employed. > > Problem 2: This introduces inefficiency due to the "interference- > > rangeexposed terminal problem". For various unique problems > > concerning MAC > > protocols in ad hoc networks, see > > > > [1] Yeh, C.-H., "The advance access mechanism for differentiated > > service, power control, and radio efficiency in ad hoc MAC protocols," > > Proc. IEEE Vehicular Technology Conf., Oct. 2003, to appear. > > > > (2) An intended receiver replies with a CTS only when the signal > > strength from the intended transmitter is sufficiently strong. See > > > > [2] Kaixin Xu, M. Gerla, and Sang Bae, "How effective is the IEEE > > 802.11 RTS/CTS handshake in ad hoc networks?" IEEE Globecom'02, 2002, > > pp. 72 -76. > > > > Problem 1: Power-controlled MAC protocols are more efficient > > than this > > fixed-power solution in terms of both throughput and power > > consumption. Problem 2: Some nodes that can transmit to each > > other without causing > > collisions are forbidden to transmit. This can be viewed as > > another form > > of the exposed terminal problem. > > > > (3) The RTS-CTS-DATA-ACK scheme actually works if control messages are > > sent in a separate control channels and RTS/CTS messages are sent to > > nodes within the interference range (or an enlarged "protection range" > > as assumed in most of my papers on ad hoc MAC protocols). > > > > Problem: RTS/CTS messages have to be sent to a large > > interference/protection range. One way to solve it is to relay > > them, but > > this is not perfect nor efficient. For more details, see > > > > [3] Yeh, C.-H., "High-throughput Interference-aware MAC > > Protocols for > > Heterogeneous Ad Hoc Networks and Multihop Wireless LANs," Proc. IEEE > > Globecom'03, Dec. 2003, to appear. > > > > (4) Use busy tone with a very large range. See > > > > [4] Monks, J.P., V. Bharghavan, W.-M.W. Hwu, "A power controlled > > multiple access protocol for wireless packet networks," IEEE > > INFOCOM'01,2001, pp. 219-228. > > > > Problem: Busy tone consumes power, while the time required for > > detecting "periodical busy tone" (as in PCMA) reduces throughput. > > > > Chihsiang > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > Chi-Hsiang Yeh (Mr./Dr./Prof.) > > Dept. of Electrical & Computer Eng. > > Queen's University > > Kingston, Ontario, K7L 3N6 > > Canada > > > > phone: +1 613-533-6368 > > fax: +1 613-533-6615 > > e-mail: chi-hsiang.yeh@ece.queensu.ca , yeh@ee.queensu.ca > > URL: http://www.ece.queensu.ca/hpages/faculty/yeh/ > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: manet-admin@ietf.org [manet-admin@ietf.org] On > > > Behalf Of ha33@drexel.edu > > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 2:34 AM > > > To: manet@ietf.org > > > Subject: [manet] interference problem > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Forgive me if this problem has already been discussed on the list. > > > > > > Consider a simple scenario of 6 nodes in a chain : > > > > > > 0 -- 1 -- 2 -- 3 -- 4 -- 5 > > > > > > Each node is at a distance of 150 m from each other. The > > > reception range of each node is 250 m and the interference > > > range/sensing range is 500 m. Node 0 is the source node > > > transmitting UPD packets at a constant rate (say x > > > packets/sec) and node 5 is the sink node or destination node. > > > The link layer is based on CSMA/CA. Node 4 is thus at a > > > distance of 450 m from node 1 and 600 m from node 0. Hence, > > > node 0 cannot hear any transmissions from node 4 (out of > > > interference/sensing range), but transmissions from node 4 > > > can interfere with reception at node 1. Since node 0 cannot > > > hear node 4 transmitting (hence CSMA/CA doesnt work here), it > > > transmits to node 1 even when node 4 is transmitting. This > > > results in collisions at node 1 and the throughput of the > > > network drops drastically. The CTS-RTS-DATA-ACK scheme doesnt > > > work here. Has this problem been addressed anywhere? Are > > > there any papers that suggest solutions to this problem? > > > > > > thanks, > > > Harpreet S. Arora > > > Research Assistant, ITCSL > > > Drexel University > > > Philadelphia, PA-19104 > > > Ph : 215-895-6198 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > manet mailing list > > > manet@ietf.org > > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet -- b _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Aug 19 17:50:36 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA10802 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:50:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pEMl-0005VL-HN for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:50:11 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7JLoBIb021153 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:50:11 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pEMl-0005V6-Dq for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:50:11 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA10787 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:50:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pEMi-0000dp-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:50:08 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pEMh-0000dl-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:50:07 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pEMc-0005Ts-5m; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:50:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pEMU-0005TC-Bc for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:49:54 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA10772 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:49:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pEMR-0000dK-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:49:51 -0400 Received: from s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil ([132.250.83.3]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pEMQ-0000d4-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:49:50 -0400 Received: from smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil [132.250.86.3]) by s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.8) with SMTP id h7JLnEDl006597 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:49:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [132.250.92.132] ([132.250.92.132]) by smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (SAVSMTP 3.1.1.32) with SMTP id M2003081917491628811 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:49:16 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: wieselth@pop.itd.nrl.navy.mil Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:49:14 -0400 To: manet@ietf.org From: Jeff Wieselthier Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1150792741==_ma============" Subject: [manet] CFP: JSAC Special Issue on Wireless Ad Hoc Networks Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , --============_-1150792741==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" CALL FOR PAPERS IEEE Journal on Selected Areas in Communications WIRELESS AD HOC NETWORKS http://www.argreenhouse.com/society/J-SAC/Calls/wireless_adhoc.html Novel approaches are needed to address ad hoc networks, which are characterized by the lack of an infrastructure. For example, point-to-point and point-to-multipoint modes of communication must be supported in a multihop network that typically consists of small (often disadvantaged) users that are characterized by severely limited energy supply, signal-processing capability, antenna directivity, bandwidth, etc. Crucial applications for mobile ad hoc networks include military communications and disaster relief, although commercial applications are certainly possible as well. In applications with a large number of nodes, scalability is a major concern. The study of ad hoc networks is an interdisciplinary one, which can potentially incorporate communication and information theory, distributed networking algorithms, data structures and compression, coding, signal processing, detection, antenna characteristics, optimization methods, simulation, testbed implementations etc. Papers submitted for this special issue must directly address ad hoc networking issues. We outline here only a few of the many aspects of ad hoc network design and control that will be addressed in this special issue. First, distributed network organization algorithms (such as those for clustering) may be used to create the equivalent of an ad hoc infrastructure. Distributed algorithms are also needed for routing, channel access, and other control functions. Networking techniques for ad hoc networks must address the challenges imposed by the all-wireless environment. For example, by contrast with wired networks, the conventional layered protocol stack is not well suited to the ad hoc wireless networking environment because it does not exploit the potential improvements in performance that can be obtained by jointly designing protocols that span multiple layers. Specifically, it is expected that improved performance can be obtained by considering the properties of the physical and data link layers when designing and operating the media-access control (MAC) protocol. Similarly, there are potential benefits to be obtained by developing protocols that address jointly the routing and MAC functions. Additional benefits can be obtained by jointly addressing higher-layer functions along with routing and MAC. Energy-aware protocols (from the perspective of either energy-efficient or energy-constrained operation) are of critical importance in many ad hoc scenarios. Such energy-aware operation can span multiple layers, e.g., by addressing trade-offs between energy used for RF transmission and for signal processing. It is the goal of this special issue to reflect the latest in the state of the art in ad hoc networks by examining all aspects of ad hoc network design and control, including the dependencies between various network functions and the potential benefits that can be gained by cross-layer design. We are interested in papers on fundamental performance limits, but more importantly on algorithm design and performance, system implementations, etc. We are seeking papers that describe original and unpublished contributions addressing various aspects of ad hoc networking. Possible topics of interest include, but are not limited to: * Physical layer issues in ad hoc networks * Media Access Control (MAC) techniques * Self-organizing architectures and protocols * Routing protocols * Cross-layer protocol design * Mobility management * Protocols for mobile applications * Transport-layer issues * Signal-processing issues in ad hoc networks * Integration with wired networks * Applications * Energy-aware protocols * Security in ad hoc networks * Capacity and scheduling * Node implementation * Effects on existing protocols * Quality of service * Broadcasting and multicasting * Multimedia and traffic integration * Experiments and testbeds * Error-control schemes * Synchronization and scheduling * Scalability * Performance analysis and simulation * Properties of antennas * Optimization methods * Fundamental limits in ad hoc networks All papers on any of the above topics must include a definite and strong connection to ad hoc networks. Please contact Jeffrey Wieselthier at wieselthier@itd.nrl.navy.mil if there are any questions about the suitability of the paper for this special issue. Prospective authors should prepare their manuscripts in accordance with the IEEE J-SAC format described in the Information for Authors at the J-SAC website. All papers should be submitted in pdf format via email to Jeffrey Wieselthier at wieselthier@itd.nrl.navy.mil according to the following timetable: Manuscript Submission: October 15, 2003 Acceptance Notification: April 1, 2004 Final Manuscript Due: June 1, 2004 Publication: 4th Quarter 2004 Guest Editors Dr. Jeffrey E. Wieselthier, Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC, wieselthier@itd.nrl.navy.mil Prof. Eitan Altman, INRIA, Sophia-Antipolis, Cedex, FRANCE, Eitan.Altman@sophia.inria.fr Prof. Anthony Ephremides, University of Maryland, College Park, MD, tony@eng.umd.edu Mr. Joseph Macker, Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC, macker@itd.nrl.navy.mil Prof. Harlan B. Russell, Clemson University, Clemson, SC, hrussel@hubcap.clemson.edu Dr. Martha Steenstrup, Stow Research L.L.C., Flanders, NJ, steenie@rcn.com Prof. Stephen Wicker, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY, wicker@ee.cornell.edu --============_-1150792741==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" CFP: JSAC Special Issue on Wireless Ad Hoc Networks
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            IEEE Journal on Selected Areas in Communications
                       WIRELESS AD HOC NETWORKS

http://www.argreenhouse.com/society/J-SAC/Calls/wireless_adhoc.html

Novel approaches are needed to address ad hoc networks, which are characterized by the lack of an infrastructure.  For example, point-to-point and point-to-multipoint modes of communication must be supported in a multihop network that typically consists of small (often disadvantaged) users that are characterized by severely limited energy supply, signal-processing capability, antenna directivity, bandwidth, etc.  Crucial applications for mobile ad hoc networks include military communications and disaster relief, although commercial applications are certainly possible as well.  In applications with a large number of nodes, scalability is a major concern.

The study of ad hoc networks is an interdisciplinary one, which can potentially incorporate communication and information theory, distributed networking algorithms, data structures and compression, coding, signal processing, detection, antenna characteristics, optimization methods, simulation, testbed implementations etc.  Papers submitted for this special issue must directly address ad hoc networking issues. 

We outline here only a few of the many aspects of ad hoc network design and control that will be addressed in this special issue.  First, distributed network organization algorithms (such as those for clustering) may be used to create the equivalent of an ad hoc infrastructure.  Distributed algorithms are also needed for routing, channel access, and other control functions.  Networking techniques for ad hoc networks must address the challenges imposed by the all-wireless environment.  For example, by contrast with wired networks, the conventional layered protocol stack is not well suited to the ad hoc wireless networking environment because it does not exploit the potential improvements in performance that can be obtained by jointly designing protocols that span multiple layers.  Specifically, it is expected that improved performance can be obtained by considering the properties of the physical and data link layers when designing and operating the media-access control (MAC) protocol.  Similarly, there are potential benefits to be obtained by developing protocols that address jointly the routing and MAC functions.  Additional benefits can be obtained by jointly addressing higher-layer functions along with routing and MAC.  Energy-aware protocols (from the perspective of either energy-efficient or energy-constrained operation) are of critical importance in many ad hoc scenarios.  Such energy-aware operation can span multiple layers, e.g., by addressing trade-offs between energy used for RF transmission and for signal processing.

It is the goal of this special issue to reflect the latest in the state of the art in ad hoc networks by examining all aspects of ad hoc network design and control, including the dependencies between various network functions and the potential benefits that can be gained by cross-layer design.  We are interested in papers on fundamental performance limits, but more importantly on algorithm design and performance, system implementations, etc.

We are seeking papers that describe original and unpublished contributions addressing various aspects of ad hoc networking.  Possible topics of interest include, but are not limited to:

     * Physical layer issues in ad hoc networks
     * Media Access Control (MAC) techniques
     * Self-organizing architectures and protocols
     * Routing protocols
     * Cross-layer protocol design
     * Mobility management
     * Protocols for mobile applications
     * Transport-layer issues
     * Signal-processing issues in ad hoc networks
     * Integration with wired networks
     * Applications
     * Energy-aware protocols
     * Security in ad hoc networks
     * Capacity and scheduling
     * Node implementation
     * Effects on existing protocols
     * Quality of service
     * Broadcasting and multicasting
     * Multimedia and traffic integration
     * Experiments and testbeds
     * Error-control schemes
     * Synchronization and scheduling
     * Scalability
     * Performance analysis and simulation
     * Properties of antennas
     * Optimization methods
     * Fundamental limits in ad hoc networks

All papers on any of the above topics must include a definite and strong connection to ad hoc networks.  Please contact Jeffrey Wieselthier at wieselthier@itd.nrl.navy.mil if there are any questions about the suitability of the paper for this special issue. 

Prospective authors should prepare their manuscripts in accordance with the IEEE J-SAC format described in the Information for Authors at the J-SAC website.  All papers should be submitted in pdf format via email to Jeffrey Wieselthier at wieselthier@itd.nrl.navy.mil according to the following timetable:

     Manuscript Submission:     October 15, 2003
     Acceptance Notification:   April 1, 2004
     Final Manuscript Due:      June 1, 2004
     Publication:               4th Quarter 2004


                       Guest Editors

Dr. Jeffrey E. Wieselthier, Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC, wieselthier@itd.nrl.navy.mil

Prof. Eitan Altman, INRIA, Sophia-Antipolis, Cedex, FRANCE, Eitan.Altman@sophia.inria.fr

Prof. Anthony Ephremides, University of Maryland, College Park, MD, tony@eng.umd.edu

Mr. Joseph Macker, Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC, macker@itd.nrl.navy.mil

Prof. Harlan B. Russell, Clemson University, Clemson, SC, hrussel@hubcap.clemson.edu

Dr. Martha Steenstrup, Stow Research L.L.C., Flanders, NJ, steenie@rcn.com

Prof. Stephen Wicker, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY, wicker@ee.cornell.edu
--============_-1150792741==_ma============-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Aug 19 20:22:12 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA17862 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pGjS-0003wI-3q for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:21:46 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7K0LkSi015136 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:21:46 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pGjS-0003w3-0k for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:21:46 -0400 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA17836 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:21:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pGij-0003nU-RU; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:21:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pGiA-0003jx-69 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:20:26 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA17794 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:20:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pGi8-00020r-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:20:24 -0400 Received: from ns.sait.samsung.co.kr ([202.20.142.13]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pGi6-00020n-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:20:23 -0400 Received: from mavpc (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.sait.samsung.co.kr (8.12.9/8.12.1) with SMTP id h7K0JpJ4025647 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:19:51 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <003801c366b0$dd31c6d0$db2f024b@mavpc> From: "Jihoon Lee" To: Subject: [manet] 57th meeting minutes Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:20:30 +0900 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Hi. Can anybody send the 57th meeting minutes (or presentation materials) held at Vienna, Austria? I cannot find anything else about that. Thanks in advance. Bye. _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Aug 20 00:35:40 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA26020 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:35:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pKgl-00063M-FH for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:35:15 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7K4ZFs3023262 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:35:15 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pKgl-000637-BC for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:35:15 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA26010 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:35:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pKgi-00044V-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:35:12 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pKgi-00044S-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:35:12 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pKgY-00061v-UU; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:35:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pKgS-00061B-S6 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:34:56 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA26003 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:34:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pKgQ-00044B-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:34:54 -0400 Received: from web80708.mail.yahoo.com ([66.163.170.65]) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pKgP-000447-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:34:53 -0400 Message-ID: <20030820043454.14765.qmail@web80708.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.141.24.2] by web80708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:34:54 PDT Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:34:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Vidyadhari Atluri To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [manet] your suggestions Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , hi, I have joined in PhD program few months back. And I am working Ad Hoc Networks. I have studied through lot of publications and found fews interesting problems: * Reliable transportation over Ad Hoc Wireless Networks * Quality of Service provision (connection admissions, resource reservation, management etc..) Since I am a beginer, I am not aware of the latest developments in these areas. I though, getting your suggestions and help would help me choose the right area and work. can you please reply .... thanks and Regards vidya atluri __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Aug 20 11:59:41 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA16921 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:59:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pVMj-0003iQ-AA for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:59:17 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7KFxH7K014276 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:59:17 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pVMj-0003iB-62 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:59:17 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA16866 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:59:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pVMh-0002ok-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:59:16 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pVMh-0002oh-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:59:15 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pVMT-0003gk-SE; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:59:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pVM3-0003gC-Kh for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:58:35 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA16811 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:58:28 -0400 (EDT) From: jm.orset@free.fr Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pVM2-0002nu-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:58:34 -0400 Received: from postfix3-2.free.fr ([213.228.0.169]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pVM1-0002nq-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:58:33 -0400 Received: from impt2-2.proxad.net (impt2-2.free.fr [213.228.0.203]) by postfix3-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A13C449 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 17:58:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: by impt2-2.proxad.net (Postfix, from userid 33) id 7706DDE06; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 17:58:31 +0200 (MEST) Received: from mci-0347faf427.int-evry.fr (mci-0347faf427.int-evry.fr [157.159.100.233]) by impt2-2.free.fr (IMP) with HTTP for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 17:58:31 +0200 Message-ID: <1061395111.3f439aa71e0e5@impt2-2.free.fr> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 17:58:31 +0200 To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [manet] cryptographic mecanisms Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello all I would like to simulate a protocol which uses cryptographic mecanisms such as digital signatures or message authentication code, to authenticate the nodes inside a network. However, I don't want to pass by a process external to ns (like an "exec /usr/local/crypto_function") Are there any existing classes to do that with ns or GlomoSim? Did somebody already implement such process? Any information would help. Thanks a lot. Jean-Marie Orset _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Aug 20 14:45:37 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA29231 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:45:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pXxJ-00050i-SC for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:45:14 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7KIjDvQ019254 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:45:13 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pXxJ-00050T-O5 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:45:13 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA29204 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:45:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pXxG-0005LV-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:45:11 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pXxG-0005LS-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:45:10 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pXx8-0004se-8b; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:45:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pXwm-0004s3-86 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:44:40 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA29188 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:44:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pXwj-0005L7-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:44:37 -0400 Received: from cs.sfu.ca ([142.58.111.1] ident=root) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pXwi-0005L4-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:44:36 -0400 Received: from kali.cs.sfu.ca (kali [199.60.5.87]) by cs.sfu.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7KIiY88024952 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (yzchen@localhost) by kali.cs.sfu.ca (8.12.3/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id h7KIaon3020539 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:36:50 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: kali.cs.sfu.ca: yzchen owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:36:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Yuanzhu Peter Chen To: manet@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [manet] classic distributed problems in manet models Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Hi there, Can I have some pointers to the algorithms and complexity analysis for some classic distributed problems under the MANET model, such as minimum spanning tree, bread-first search tree, leader election, and so on? Most existing distributed algorithms are under the multiport model for wired networks, where interference is not taken into account. Thank you very much. Cizhi, Yuanzhu ------------------------------------------------ "I have not powered down. 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Hello everybody,

I am new to Mobile Adhoc Networks. Anyone of you please tell me how can i simulate various routing algorithms in Mobile Adhoc Networks.

Waiting for your replies.

Thanx

Karun
See you

>From: "Divya Lakshmi Shivakumar"
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>Hello,
>
>I am new to GloMoSim mailing list.
>
>I want to run AODV and DSR protocols in GloMoSim and analyze the
>routing trace as we get in NS-2. In NS-2, there is a .tr file which
>will have information about the position of a node at different time
>instants, the route to a destination, the intermediate nodes in a
>route (for the case of AODV), etc. I want to get something similar
>to that in GloMoSim. Basically, all i need are the following:
>
>(1) Position of a node at any instant during the simulation
>(2) The origin time of a route, endtime of a route and the actual
>intermediate nodes in a route
>(3) The time, the application layer is sending the packet to the
>network layer and the time the application layer at the destination
>gets the packet from its network layer
>(4) The link-to-link delay in a route
>
>I saw the output in glomo.stat and it doesn't contain all the above
>information. Can any one please tell me how to get the above
>information? Please help. It will be very useful to me.
>
>thanks,
>Divya
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On your mobile! _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Aug 21 12:21:07 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA12579 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19psB0-0006Xp-An for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:20:42 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7LGKgsP025154 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:20:42 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19psB0-0006Xd-5J for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:20:42 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA12547 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19psAx-0005GZ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:20:39 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19psAw-0005GV-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:20:38 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19psAM-0006V1-Ls; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:20:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ps9e-0006UC-JA for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:19:18 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA12505 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:19:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ps9d-0005Ff-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:19:17 -0400 Received: from amber.crhc.uiuc.edu ([130.126.143.254]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ps9b-0005FT-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:19:16 -0400 Received: from godel.crhc.uiuc.edu (godel.crhc.uiuc.edu [130.126.142.150]) by amber.crhc.uiuc.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7LGVEM3020835 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 11:31:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (nhv@localhost) by godel.crhc.uiuc.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h7LGIeV14895 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 11:18:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: godel.crhc.uiuc.edu: nhv owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 11:18:40 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nitin H. Vaidya" To: MANET mailing list Subject: Re: [manet] classic distributed problems in manet models In-Reply-To: <20030821160002.19398.95525.Mailman@www1.ietf.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Yuanzhu: We have some papers related to your question below (you can visit my web site www.crhc.uiuc.edu and follow the link for "older" papers to get to the papers on leader election, mutual exclusion and token circulation). We also have some newer unpublished work in this area (which is closer to your question about taking interference into account) -- we hope to write it up in the next few months. - nitin . >>Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:36:49 -0700 (PDT) . >>From: Yuanzhu Peter Chen . >>To: manet@ietf.org . >>Subject: [manet] classic distributed problems in manet models . >> . >>Hi there, . >> . >> Can I have some pointers to the algorithms and complexity analysis for . >>some classic distributed problems under the MANET model, such as minimum . >>spanning tree, bread-first search tree, leader election, and so on? Most . >>existing distributed algorithms are under the multiport model for wired . >>networks, where interference is not taken into account. . >> . >> Thank you very much. . >> . >>Cizhi, . >>Yuanzhu . >> . >> _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Aug 21 12:48:46 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA14008 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19psbk-0008Tl-Jw for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:48:21 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7LGmK2A032582 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:48:20 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19psbk-0008TJ-Es for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:48:20 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA13881 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19psal-0005d6-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:47:20 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19psal-0005d3-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:47:19 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19psaT-0008Db-IX; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:47:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19psaF-0008Cr-Vc for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:46:47 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA13830 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:46:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19psaE-0005cT-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:46:46 -0400 Received: from web21406.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.232.76]) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19psaD-0005cQ-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:46:45 -0400 Message-ID: <20030821164642.15311.qmail@web21406.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.55.252.17] by web21406.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:46:42 PDT Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:46:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Tomitz To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [manet] urgent - remove posting asap Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , PLEASE REMOVE THE ENTIRE POSTING I SUBMITTED YESTERDAY (ASAP): I am an engineer (Stanford) and work for a San Francisco Bay Area ad hoc mesh networking company that is.... 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SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Aug 21 12:57:39 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA14469 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:57:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pskK-0000dk-KE for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:57:15 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7LGvCH3002454 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:57:12 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pskK-0000dV-Ec for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:57:12 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA14412 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:57:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pskI-0005ly-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:57:10 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19pskI-0005lv-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:57:10 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19psk9-0000Vn-Mm; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:57:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19psjZ-0000U9-HN for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:56:25 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA14390 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:56:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19psjX-0005lV-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:56:23 -0400 Received: from x86unx3.comp.nus.edu.sg ([137.132.90.3]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19psjW-0005lS-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:56:22 -0400 Received: from e500b.comp.nus.edu.sg (e500b.comp.nus.edu.sg [137.132.90.26]) by x86unx3.comp.nus.edu.sg (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA10458 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:56:17 +0800 (GMT-8) Received: from sf3.comp.nus.edu.sg(137.132.90.55) by e500b.comp.nus.edu.sg via csmap id 30905; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:55:52 +0800 (SGT) Received: from localhost (sourabhs@localhost) by sf3.comp.nus.edu.sg (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA27378 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:55:37 +0800 (GMT-8) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:55:37 +0800 (GMT-8) From: Sourabh Sharma To: manet@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [manet] <=== DSR on IPv6 ====> Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Hello, We at I2R, Singapore are developing IPv6 ad-hoc testbed with Gateway connectivity. Since we are using DSR as the adhoc routing protocol, I wanted to know if there is any one out there who has ported DSR to Ipv6. Or anyone in the process of doing it. Alex Song implemented DSR on IPv4. The last time I had heard of Ryuji and Perkins group working on IPv6 connnectivity.Could you let me know of your project status. Thanks and Regards, Sourabh Sharma Ad Hoc Networking Group, Institute for Infocomm Research. 21, Heng Mui Keng Terrace Singapore - 119617 -------------------------------------------------- There is an answer to everything in this world. The only question which remains to be answered IS whether we know the answers or not. _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Aug 21 14:15:38 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA18480 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:15:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ptxk-0001YC-GX for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:15:13 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7LIF8ml005954 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:15:08 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ptxk-0001Xu-97 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:15:08 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA18402 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:15:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ptxg-0006iU-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:15:04 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ptxf-0006iR-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:15:03 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ptwg-0001OS-1d; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:14:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ptwc-0001NK-RG for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:13:58 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA16390 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:46:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ptVj-0006BY-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:46:11 -0400 Received: from pony1pub.arc.nasa.gov ([128.102.31.41]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ptVi-0006B7-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:46:11 -0400 Received: from nren-194.arc.nasa.gov ([128.102.196.194] verified) by pony1pub.arc.nasa.gov (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 2291319; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:45:35 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jerry Toung Reply-To: jtoung@arc.nasa.gov To: Sourabh Sharma , manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] <=== DSR on IPv6 ====> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:44:56 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200308211044.56904.jtoung@arc.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Sourabh, that's one of the things on our plate. Where can I get a tar of Alex code= ? or could you send it to me? Thanks a lot, Jerry. On Thursday 21 August 2003 09:55 am, Sourabh Sharma wrote: > Hello, > We at I2R, Singapore are developing IPv6 ad-hoc testbed > with Gateway connectivity. > Since we are using DSR as the adhoc routing protocol, > I wanted to know if there is any one out there who has > ported DSR to Ipv6. Or anyone in the process of doing it. > Alex Song implemented DSR on IPv4. > The last time I had heard of Ryuji and Perkins group > working on IPv6 connnectivity.Could you let me know > of your project status. > > Thanks and Regards, > Sourabh Sharma > Ad Hoc Networking Group, > Institute for Infocomm Research. > 21, Heng Mui Keng Terrace > Singapore - 119617 > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Aug 21 22:16:40 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA14764 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q1TM-0005V6-JB for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:16:16 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7M2GGxc021138 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:16:16 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q1TM-0005Ur-Fn for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:16:16 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA14728 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:16:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q1TJ-00050G-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:16:13 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q1TI-00050D-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:16:12 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q1T8-0005Tc-HW; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:16:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q1Si-0005T1-Hr for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:15:36 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA14696 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q1Sf-0004zT-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:15:33 -0400 Received: from smtp-send.myrealbox.com ([192.108.102.143]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q1Se-0004zQ-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:15:32 -0400 Received: from nppham [130.220.36.141] by myrealbox.com with NetMail ModWeb Module; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 11:45:29 +0950 From: "Peter Pham" To: manet@ietf.org Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 11:45:29 +0950 X-Mailer: NetMail ModWeb Module X-Sender: nppham MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1061518529.be8bb620nppham@myrealbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [manet] CDMA in ad hoc network Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all I am looking for a cdma-based MAC in ad hoc network. I am interested in bot= h simulation work in ns2 or OPNET. If anyone has any info on these, please drop me an email. I really need these for my research work. Thank you very much Cheers Peter Pham Peter Phuc Pham University of South Australia Institute for Telecommunication Research Phone: 61-883023869 Email: ppham@spri.levels.unisa.edu.au WWW: www.itr.unisa.edu.au/~ppham _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Aug 21 22:42:43 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA15946 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:42:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q1sW-0006r8-QC for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:42:19 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7M2gG8k026348 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:42:16 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q1sW-0006qt-Kr for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:42:16 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA15911 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:42:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q1sT-0005Lh-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:42:13 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q1sS-0005Ld-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:42:12 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q1sH-0006jm-Lz; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:42:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q1rV-0006jA-5R for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:41:13 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA15890 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q1rR-0005LE-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:41:09 -0400 Received: from x86unx3.comp.nus.edu.sg ([137.132.90.3]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q1rQ-0005LB-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:41:09 -0400 Received: from e500a.comp.nus.edu.sg (e500a.comp.nus.edu.sg [137.132.90.23]) by x86unx3.comp.nus.edu.sg (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA17562; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:41:03 +0800 (GMT-8) Received: from sf3.comp.nus.edu.sg(137.132.90.55) by e500a.comp.nus.edu.sg via csmap id 19187; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:40:30 +0800 (SGT) Received: from localhost (sourabhs@localhost) by sf3.comp.nus.edu.sg (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09792; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:40:30 +0800 (GMT-8) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:40:30 +0800 (GMT-8) From: Sourabh Sharma To: Peter Pham cc: manet@ietf.org, Sandeep Kumar Subject: Re: [manet] CDMA in ad hoc network In-Reply-To: <1061518529.be8bb620nppham@myrealbox.com> Message-ID: References: <1061518529.be8bb620nppham@myrealbox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , If ppl like Peter do some good work, the day is not far when cell phones(3G,4G) can form self-configuring ad - hoc networks and hopefully there would be enough cell phone density to allow cell phones to operate and make/receive calls in ad hoc mode thus eliminating the need of having telecom operators. just imagine the effect on economy if all telcos run out of business! -sourabh On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Peter Pham wrote: > Dear all > I am looking for a cdma-based MAC in ad hoc network. I am interested in both simulation work in ns2 or OPNET. > If anyone has any info on these, please drop me an email. > I really need these for my research work. > > Thank you very much > > Cheers > Peter Pham > > > > Peter Phuc Pham > University of South Australia > Institute for Telecommunication Research > Phone: 61-883023869 > Email: ppham@spri.levels.unisa.edu.au > WWW: www.itr.unisa.edu.au/~ppham > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > -------------------------------------------------- There is an answer to everything in this world. The only question which remains to be answered IS whether we know the answers or not. _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Aug 22 00:11:35 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA19325 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q3GL-00026A-PJ for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:10:58 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7M4Avnj008060 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:10:57 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q3GL-00025u-IZ for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:10:57 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA19298 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:10:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q3GJ-0006D2-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:10:55 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q3GI-0006Cz-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:10:54 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q3FT-0001vE-7I; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:10:03 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q3FF-0001uj-O6 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:09:49 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA19269 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:09:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q3FD-0006C6-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:09:47 -0400 Received: from tiquini.ece.arizona.edu ([128.196.29.23]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q3FC-0006C3-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:09:46 -0400 Received: from tiquini (tiquini [128.196.29.23]) by tiquini.ece.arizona.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7M48mqw018739; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:08:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from DHCP-105.ece.arizona.edu ([150.135.222.105]) by tiquini.ece.arizona.edu (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:59:54 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <002701c36861$ec5118c0$69de8796@arizonaalaa> Reply-To: "Alaa Muqattash" From: "Alaa Muqattash" To: "Peter Pham" , References: <1061518529.be8bb620nppham@myrealbox.com> Subject: Re: [manet] CDMA in ad hoc network Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:00:28 -0700 Organization: The University of Arizona MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter, We have the following paper related to your question below: Alaa Muqattash and Marwan Krunz, "CDMA-based MAC protocol for wireless ad hoc networks," in the Proceedings of the International Symposium on Mobile Ad Hoc Networking and Computing (MobiHoc'03), Annapolis, June 2003. Best regards, Alaa ================================================= Alaa Muqattash Ph.D. Student & Research Assistant Broadband Networking Laboratory Dept. of Electrical & Computer Engineering The University of Arizona Rm. 109, ECE Bldg. Tucson AZ 85721 Tel : (520) 626-9249 Fax : (520) 621-3862 Email : alaa@ece.arizona.edu Web: http://www.ece.arizona.edu/~alaa/ "Imagination is more important than knowledge" Albert Einstein ================================================= ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Pham" To: Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:55 PM Subject: [manet] CDMA in ad hoc network > Dear all > I am looking for a cdma-based MAC in ad hoc network. I am interested in both simulation work in ns2 or OPNET. > If anyone has any info on these, please drop me an email. > I really need these for my research work. > > Thank you very much > > Cheers > Peter Pham > > > > Peter Phuc Pham > University of South Australia > Institute for Telecommunication Research > Phone: 61-883023869 > Email: ppham@spri.levels.unisa.edu.au > WWW: www.itr.unisa.edu.au/~ppham > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Aug 22 04:18:45 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA10461 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:18:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q77j-0005ja-Db for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:18:19 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7M8IIo7022036 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:18:18 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q77h-0005jL-GS for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:18:17 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA10439 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:18:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q77e-0000b6-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:18:14 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q77e-0000b3-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:18:14 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q77U-0005iG-9J; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:18:04 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q77P-0005hm-Bm for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:17:59 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA10424 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:17:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q77L-0000ac-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:17:55 -0400 Received: from web13105.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.174.150]) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q77K-0000aZ-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:17:54 -0400 Message-ID: <20030822081755.19215.qmail@web13105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.56.207.254] by web13105.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 01:17:55 PDT Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 01:17:55 -0700 (PDT) From: ragupathy rengaswamy To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [manet] problems in testing of routing algorithms for MONET in ns 2 Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , hai, I am doing my Master Degree in Bengal Deemed University, Howrah, India. When I try to test the existing Routing algorithm for MANET in linux platform segment core dump error is comming. this error also for not minimum no. of nodes and simulation timing. Say for no. of nodes 5 & 40 time period I am not getting the error but say for no. of nodes 10 & 10 time period itself I am getting that error. Now what to do for testing the 50 or 100 nodes & 100 or 200 time period. If any one knows solution for this problem please help me. by from Ragu __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Aug 22 05:22:49 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA12717 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:22:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q87d-0008Da-9x for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:22:24 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7M9MHhn031584 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:22:17 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q87d-0008DL-6p for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:22:17 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA12670 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:22:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q87Z-0001FS-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:22:14 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q87Z-0001FP-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:22:13 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q87O-00088K-Sz; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:22:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q873-00086x-6o for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:21:41 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA12604 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q86z-0001EY-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:21:37 -0400 Received: from csa.iisc.ernet.in ([144.16.67.8]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q86U-0001DK-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:21:36 -0400 Received: from kohinoor.csa.iisc.ernet.in (kohinoor.csa.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.67.10]) by csa.iisc.ernet.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F012BB34; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:32:17 +0530 (IST) Received: from osiris.csa.iisc.ernet.in (osiris.csa.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.67.12]) by kohinoor.csa.iisc.ernet.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B4CE953; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:48:53 +0530 (IST) Received: by osiris.csa.iisc.ernet.in (Postfix, from userid 9302) id DFB6967E83; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:48:46 +0530 (IST) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:48:46 +0530 (IST) From: Hasan Raza To: Peter Pham Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] CDMA in ad hoc network In-Reply-To: <1061518529.be8bb620nppham@myrealbox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Hi all, I am also interested in CDMA ad-hoc networks. However, I don't know whether this mailing list is appropriate place to raise this problem. I noticed few problems related to CDMA in ad-hoc networks that needs consideration: a) Synchronization between nodes: The orthogonal codes are meaningful only when the received signals are perfectly synchronized. In context of downlink in cellular networks, the base station has all the N users' data and it can send all of them synchronously. Whereas, the uplink in Cellular networks uses waveform coding (I don't know much about that.) Therefore, the performance of ad-hoc networks is regulated by pseudo-orthogonal reception of signals. b) Near-Far effect: For CDMA in ad-hoc networks, people do assume that in a small ad-hoc network, the problem of near far effect can be dropped. However, it is not convincing ( I think so.) Moreover, the near-far effect experience trivial problem with power control. In contrast to the cellular networks, where a Mobile Station is transmitting to a single Base Station, each transmitting-node in ad-hoc network is transmitting to multiple receivers and each receiving-node is receiving from multiple transmitters (weird!) How a transmitter can set its power to multiple values, each decided by the receiving nodes? Thanks if somebody correct me if I am wrong. Cheers Hasan On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Peter Pham wrote: > Dear all > I am looking for a cdma-based MAC in ad hoc network. I am interested in both simulation work in ns2 or OPNET. > If anyone has any info on these, please drop me an email. > I really need these for my research work. > > Thank you very much > > Cheers > Peter Pham > > > > Peter Phuc Pham > University of South Australia > Institute for Telecommunication Research > Phone: 61-883023869 > Email: ppham@spri.levels.unisa.edu.au > WWW: www.itr.unisa.edu.au/~ppham > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Aug 22 05:41:16 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA13635 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:41:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q8Pb-00013o-Vs for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:40:52 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7M9epkq004070 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:40:51 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q8Pb-00013Z-RR for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:40:51 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA13375 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:37:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q8M4-0001Q0-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:37:13 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q8M4-0001Px-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:37:12 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q8Lu-0000Uo-H7; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:37:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q8Li-0000Tr-6L for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:36:50 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA13359 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:36:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q8Le-0001PU-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:36:46 -0400 Received: from sea2-f32.sea2.hotmail.com ([207.68.165.32] helo=hotmail.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q8Le-0001P1-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:36:46 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 02:36:17 -0700 Received: from 128.16.10.134 by sea2fd.sea2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:36:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [128.16.10.134] X-Originating-Email: [roybiv@hotmail.com] Reply-To: roybiv@hotmail.com From: "Alistair Harris" To: manet@ietf.org Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:36:16 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Aug 2003 09:36:17.0234 (UTC) FILETIME=[D60E3320:01C36890] Subject: [manet] Replication in wireless ad hoc networks Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Hello everyone, I'm a new research student focussing on broadly on the area of data replication in wireless ad hoc networks. Specifically, I would like to investigate issues concerning the management of mutiple copies of a document and the subsequent requirement to reconcile any changes to produce a 'final' document. I would like to know if anyone is doing related work in this area or know of any good sources of information. Thanks Regards _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Aug 22 05:56:41 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA14115 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q8eU-0001Ya-N1 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:56:17 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7M9uEm0005978 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:56:14 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q8eU-0001YL-HF for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:56:14 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA14083 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q8eQ-0001b3-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:56:10 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q8eQ-0001b0-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:56:10 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q8eI-0001RV-2C; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:56:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q8du-0001R1-K4 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:55:38 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA14070 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:55:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q8dr-0001aj-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:55:35 -0400 Received: from ocean.ise.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp ([133.1.52.46]) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q8dq-0001aV-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:55:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 739 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2003 18:51:01 +0900 Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Aug 2003 18:51:01 +0900 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:55:11 +0900 From: Takahiro HARA X-Mailer: EdMax Ver2.85.5F MIME-Version: 1.0 To: roybiv@hotmail.com Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] Replication in wireless ad hoc networks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Harris, I know several previous works focusing consistency management among replicas in ad hoc networks: Karumanchi, G., Muralidharan, S., and Prakash, R.: Information Dissemination in Partitionable Mobile Ad Hoc Networks, Proc. Symposium on Reliable Distributed Systems (SRDS'99), pp.4-13 (1999). Rothermel, K., Becker, C., and Hahner, J.: Consistent Update Diffusion in Mobile Ad Hoc Networks, Technical Report 2002/04, Computer Science Department, University of Stuttgart (2002). Luo, J., Hubaux, J.P., and Eugster, P.: PAN: Providing Reliable Storage in Mobile Ad Hoc Networks with Probabilistic Quorum Systems, Proc. ACM MobiHoc 2003, pp.1-12 (2003). Also, I am working on data replication in ad hoc networks. The followings are my related papers. (But, they do not consider the consistency among replicas.) Hara, T.: Effective Replica Allocation in Ad Hoc Networks for Improving Data Accessibility, Proc. of IEEE Infocom 2001, Vol.3, pp.1568-1576 (Apr. 2001). Hara, T.: Replica Allocation Methods in Ad Hoc Networks with Data Update, ACM-Kluwer Journal on Mobile Networks and Applications (MONET), Vol.8, No.4, pp.343-354 (Aug. 2003). Hayashi, H., Hara, T., and Nishio, S.: Cache Invalidation for Updated Data in Ad Hoc Networks, Proc. of Int'l Conf. on Cooperative Information Systems (CoopIS'03) (Nov. 2003, to appear). Regards, Takahiro Hara =============================================== | Takahiro HARA, Dr. Eng. | | Dept. of Multimedia Engieering | | Grad. Sch. of Info. Science and Technology | | Osaka University | | 2-1 Yamadaoka, Suita, Osaka 565-0871, JAPAN | | E-mail: hara@ist.osaka-u.ac.jp | | Tel: +81-6-6879-7818, Fax: +81-6-6879-7815 | =============================================== "Alistair Harris" wrote: > > >Hello everyone, >I'm a new research student focussing on broadly on the area of data >replication in wireless ad hoc networks. Specifically, I would like to >investigate issues concerning the management of mutiple copies of a document >and the subsequent requirement to reconcile any changes to produce a 'final' >document. > >I would like to know if anyone is doing related work in this area or know of >any good sources of information. > >Thanks > >Regards > >_________________________________________________________________ >Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. >http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess > > >_______________________________________________ >manet mailing list >manet@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Aug 22 06:08:40 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA14575 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:08:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q8q8-0002ML-3h for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:08:16 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7MA8Gl2009063 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:08:16 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q8q8-0002M6-0U for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:08:16 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA14539 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:08:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q8q4-0001jo-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:08:12 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q8q3-0001jl-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:08:11 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q8pt-0002FW-Bp; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:08:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q8p0-000216-UM for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:07:06 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA14520 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:07:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q8ox-0001jN-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:07:03 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de ([129.217.4.42]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q8ow-0001j7-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 06:07:02 -0400 Received: from postamt.cs.uni-dortmund.de (postamt [129.217.4.40]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id h7MA6Wj07334; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 12:06:32 +0200 (MES) Received: from xandi.cs.uni-dortmund.de (xandi [129.217.16.221]) (authenticated bits=0) by postamt.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7MA6WBG019054 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Fri, 22 Aug 2003 12:06:32 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030822120337.011c1688@postamt.cs.uni-dortmund.de> X-Sender: christoph.lindemann@postamt.cs.uni-dortmund.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 12:06:25 +0200 To: roybiv@hotmail.com From: Christoph Lindemann Subject: Re: [manet] Replication in wireless ad hoc networks Cc: manet@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Hello Harris, we have a recent paper at MobiDE which might be of interest to you: C. Lindemann, O. Waldhorst, Consistency Mechanisms for a Distributed Lookup Service supporting Mobile Applications, 3rd Int. ACM Workshop on Data Engineering for Wireless and Mobile Access (MobiDE 2003), San Diego, CA, September 2003. To appear. The paper is available at our web site. Regards, Christoph At 10:36 22.08.2003 +0100, you wrote: >Hello everyone, >I'm a new research student focussing on broadly on the area of data >replication in wireless ad hoc networks. Specifically, I would like to >investigate issues concerning the management of mutiple copies of a >document and the subsequent requirement to reconcile any changes to >produce a 'final' document. > >I would like to know if anyone is doing related work in this area or know >of any good sources of information. > >Thanks > >Regards > >_________________________________________________________________ >Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. >http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess > > >_______________________________________________ >manet mailing list >manet@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet __________________________________________________________________________________ Dr. Christoph Lindemann - Associate Professor University of Dortmund Department of Computer Science Phone: (+49231) 755-2410 -Computer Systems and Performance Evaluation- Fax: (+49231) 755-2417 August-Schmidt-Str. 12 E-mail: cl@cs.uni-dortmund.de 44227 Dortmund, Germany WWW: http://www4.cs.uni-dortmund.de/~Lindemann/ _________________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Aug 22 07:04:38 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA16977 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:04:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q9iH-0004RX-Lr for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:04:14 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7MB4DpH017073 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:04:13 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q9iH-0004RI-IL for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:04:13 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA16954 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q9iD-0002LY-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:04:09 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q9iC-0002LV-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:04:08 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q9i5-0004NE-HO; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:04:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19q9hL-0004MC-1T for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:03:15 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA16938 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:03:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q9hG-0002LF-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:03:10 -0400 Received: from cheviot3.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.233.117] ident=root) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19q9hG-0002LC-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:03:10 -0400 Received: from ncl.ac.uk (deerbook.ncl.ac.uk [128.240.149.114]) by cheviot3.ncl.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h7MB2k708029; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 12:02:46 +0100 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 12:02:47 +0100 Subject: Re: [manet] Replication in wireless ad hoc networks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: manet@ietf.org To: roybiv@hotmail.com From: Einar Vollset In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <29B8E45D-D490-11D7-9196-000A9575BD30@ncl.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Newcastle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Postmaster@newcastle.ac.uk for more information X-Newcastle-MailScanner: Found to be clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Also perhaps of interest: S. Chessa and P.Maestrini, Dependable and Secure Data Storage and Retrieval in Mobile, Wireless Networks, International Conference on Dependable Systems and Networks 2003 (DSN2003) San Francisco, USA pp.207-217. On Friday, Aug 22, 2003, at 10:36 Europe/London, Alistair Harris wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > I'm a new research student focussing on broadly on the area of data > replication in wireless ad hoc networks. Specifically, I would like to > investigate issues concerning the management of mutiple copies of a > document and the subsequent requirement to reconcile any changes to > produce a 'final' document. > > I would like to know if anyone is doing related work in this area or > know of any good sources of information. > > Thanks > > Regards > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. > http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > ---------------------------------------- Einar Vollset PhD Student School of Computing Science University of Newcastle, UK http://vollset.org ----------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Aug 22 09:53:44 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA24250 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:53:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19qCLt-0002wk-3X for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:53:18 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7MDrH3Z011327 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:53:17 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19qCLs-0002wc-Td for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:53:16 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA24193 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:53:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19qCLp-00047Z-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:53:13 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19qCLp-00047W-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:53:13 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19qCLe-0002uy-2s; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:53:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19qCKz-0002uJ-O6 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:52:21 -0400 Received: from csa.iisc.ernet.in (csa.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.67.8]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA24123 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kohinoor.csa.iisc.ernet.in (kohinoor.csa.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.67.10]) by csa.iisc.ernet.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A602BB4C; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 19:02:07 +0530 (IST) Received: from osiris.csa.iisc.ernet.in (osiris.csa.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.67.12]) by kohinoor.csa.iisc.ernet.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E66E953; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 19:18:40 +0530 (IST) Received: by osiris.csa.iisc.ernet.in (Postfix, from userid 9302) id E428767E83; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 19:18:34 +0530 (IST) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 19:18:33 +0530 (IST) From: Hasan Raza To: Parag Agarwal Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] CDMA in ad hoc network Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Hi Parag, > 1) What makes you think CDMA can perform better than 802.11X in manets ? > 2) With limited battery supply (per node), is it feasible to have cdma-based stacks ? > The close loop in power! CDMA which is known to consume extra power for spreading/despreading etc., the effective use of the benefits provided by the dream-CDMA can help in conserving the power. Few attracting features of CDMA can include: * Capacity improvement of ad-hoc networks: This works on the information theoretic concept of increasing the number of successful receptions of packet at the link-layer for enhancing the capacity of the network. * The multi-packet reception capability can help in reducing the number of transmissions: N number of packets can be sent in single transmission. If there are N flows coming out of a node, the energy consumption is 1/N time the energy consumed in present schemes. * Reduction in communication overhead in routing: Presently, the packets are transmitted to only one node in the forward direction of the destination. The multi-path routing can be done with zero overhead easily. * Quality of Service: Different levels of QoS requirements can be accomodated in the network without severe degradation in effective throughput at each node. After all, something has to be paid (complexity) for these benefits:) Regards, Hasan On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Parag Agarwal wrote: > hi, > > I was just curious to know the following :- > > 1) What makes you think CDMA can perform better than 802.11X in manets ? > 2) With limited battery supply (per node), is it feasible to have cdma-based stacks ? > > parag. > > Hasan Raza wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I am also interested in CDMA ad-hoc networks. However, I don't know > > whether this mailing list is appropriate place to raise this problem. > > I noticed few problems related to CDMA in ad-hoc networks that needs > > consideration: > > > > a) Synchronization between nodes: > > The orthogonal codes are meaningful only when the received signals are > > perfectly synchronized. In context of downlink in cellular networks, the > > base station has all the N users' data and it can send all of them > > synchronously. Whereas, the uplink in Cellular networks uses > > waveform coding (I don't know much about that.) Therefore, the > > performance of ad-hoc networks is regulated by pseudo-orthogonal reception > > of signals. > > > > b) Near-Far effect: > > For CDMA in ad-hoc networks, people do assume that in a small ad-hoc > > network, the problem of near far effect can be dropped. However, it is not > > convincing ( I think so.) Moreover, the near-far effect experience > > trivial problem with power control. In contrast to the cellular networks, > > where a Mobile Station is transmitting to a single Base Station, each > > transmitting-node in ad-hoc network is transmitting to multiple receivers > > and each receiving-node is receiving from multiple transmitters (weird!) > > How a transmitter can set its power to multiple values, each decided by > > the receiving nodes? > > > > Thanks if somebody correct me if I am wrong. > > > > Cheers > > Hasan > > > > On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Peter Pham wrote: > > > > > Dear all > > > I am looking for a cdma-based MAC in ad hoc network. I am interested in both simulation work in ns2 or OPNET. > > > If anyone has any info on these, please drop me an email. > > > I really need these for my research work. > > > > > > Thank you very much > > > > > > Cheers > > > Peter Pham > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Phuc Pham > > > University of South Australia > > > Institute for Telecommunication Research > > > Phone: 61-883023869 > > > Email: ppham@spri.levels.unisa.edu.au > > > WWW: www.itr.unisa.edu.au/~ppham > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > manet mailing list > > > manet@ietf.org > > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > manet mailing list > > manet@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Aug 22 10:02:34 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA25086 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19qCUT-0003ks-WC for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:02:10 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7ME290v014428 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:02:09 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19qCUT-0003kd-SX for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:02:09 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA25000 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19qCUR-0004FY-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:02:07 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19qCUR-0004FV-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:02:07 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19qCUL-0003bw-Le; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:02:01 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19qCTZ-0003an-WF for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:01:14 -0400 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA24769; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:01:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200308221401.KAA24769@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; CC: manet@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:01:07 -0400 Subject: [manet] I-D ACTION:draft-jeong-manet-addr-autoconf-reqts-00.txt Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. 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Specifically, I would like to > investigate issues concerning the management of mutiple copies of a document > and the subsequent requirement to reconcile any changes to produce a 'final' > document. > > I would like to know if anyone is doing related work in this area or know of > any good sources of information. > > Thanks > > Regards > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. > http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet -- b _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Aug 22 22:38:48 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA04246 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 22:38:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19qOIF-0004vO-0B for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; 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Sat, 23 Aug 2003 05:58:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.129.220.119] X-Originating-Email: [karun8880@hotmail.com] From: "Karun Verma" To: manet@ietf.org Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 11:28:08 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Aug 2003 05:58:08.0713 (UTC) FILETIME=[871A2390:01C3693B] Subject: [manet] How To install NS2 on Win9x Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: ,

Hello Friends,

My self Karun verma fro PEC chandigarh. I am doing ME CSE(IT) and want to persue my thesis in Mobile Ad-hoc Networks. I have Read papers on Routing technologies in MANET. and is interseted in developing an algorithm for that. i tried to install Network Simulator 2 on my PC which works on Windows Environment. but it is giving problems regarding CYGWIN librarries.

 

Any please tell me how to install NS2 in Windows Environment.

Thanking You

Karun Verma


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On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 02:36, Alistair Harris wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> I'm a new research student focussing on broadly on the area of data
> replication in wireless ad hoc networks. Specifically, I would like to
> investigate issues concerning the management of mutiple copies of a document
> and the subsequent requirement to reconcile any changes to produce a 'final'
> document.
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> I would like to know if anyone is doing related work in this area or know of
> any good sources of information.
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Securing Wireless Applications ------------------------------ Session Chair: Jean-Pierre Hubaux 2:15-3:15pm * ESCORT: A Decentralized and Localized Access Control System for Mobile Wireless Access to Secured Domains Jiejun Kong (UCLA), Shirshanka Das (UCLA), Edward Tsai (UCLA), and Mario Gerla (UCLA) * On Securely Enabling Intermediary-Based Services and Performance Enhancements for Wireless Mobile Users Sneha Kasera (Bell Labs), Semyon Mizikovsky (Bell Labs), Ganapathy Sundaram (Bell Labs), and Thomas Woo (Bell Labs) Secure Wireless Protocols ------------------------- Session Chair: Markus Jakobsson 3:30-5pm * Alert Aggregation in Mobile Ad Hoc Networks Bo Sun (Texas A&M), Kui Wu (University of Victoria), and Udo Pooch (Texas A&M) * An Authentication Framework for Hierarchical Ad Hoc Sensor Networks Mathias Bohge (TU Berlin) and Wade Trappe (Rutgers) * On the Security of Wireless Network Access with Enhancements Lein Harn (University of Missouri) and Wen-Jung Hsin (University of Missouri) ========================================================= ORGANIZERS ========================================================= Workshop Co-Chairs: Douglas Maughan, Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency Adrian Perrig, Carnegie Mellon University Program Committee: Bill Arbaugh, University of Maryland Brian Noble, University of Michigan Brian Van Leeuwen, Sandia National Laboratories Chinya Ravishankar, University of California at Riverside Jean-Pierre Hubaux, EPFL Jonathan Smith, University of Pennsylvania Leendert van Doorn, IBM Markus Jakobsson, RSA Security Radha Poovendran, University of Washington Stephen Zabele, Alphatech Wenke Lee, Georgia Institute of Technology Yair Amir, Johns Hopkins University Publicity Co-Chairs: Mohsen Guizani, Western Michigan University Guevara Noubir, Northeastern University Publication Chair: Saad Biaz, Auburn University Treasurer Yongguang Zhang, HRL Labs and UT-Austin ============================================================ _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Aug 27 19:31:04 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA18654 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 19:31:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19s46x-0005Qc-Tx for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:29:35 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7RHTZ5H020862 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:29:35 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19s2zz-0000pF-Hd for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:18:19 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA12714 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19s2zy-0001rQ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:18:18 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19s2zx-0001rN-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:18:17 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19s2Vq-00087S-NS; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:47:10 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19s1HX-0005XN-VY for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:28:20 -0400 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA01855; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200308271428.KAA01855@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; CC: manet@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:28:13 -0400 Subject: [manet] I-D ACTION:draft-jelger-manet-gateway-autoconf-v6-00.txt Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : Gateway and address autoconfiguration for IPv6 adhoc networks Author(s) : C. Jelger, T. Noel Filename : draft-jelger-manet-gateway-autoconf-v6-00.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2003-8-27 Adhoc networks are formed by the spontaneous collaboration of wireless nodes when no networking infrastructure is available. When communication to the Internet is desired, one or more nodes must act as gateways for the adhoc network. In this case, global addressing of adhoc nodes is required. This document specifies a protocol (node behaviour, information propagation, message format) which allows nodes in an adhoc network to discover a gateway/prefix pair which is used in order to build an IPv6 global address and, when necessary, to maintain a default route towards the Internet. 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I would like to request your comments on my new draft, "IP Address Autoconfiguration with DAD minimization for Ad Hoc Networks" http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rantonen-manet-idaddress-dad-adhocnet-00.txt Abstract of draft: Many kinds of mobile user equipments may want to join or create wireless local area network. Today connectivity is usually based on using the IP address as the identifier for the device. However, such kinds of devices do not necessary have a static IP address. Some autoconfiguration procedures are developed for fixed networks, but those procedures have requirements that Manet does not satisfy. For ad hoc networks, some IPv6 address autoconfiguration solutions are developed during recent years. In this document, an autoconfiguration mechanism for mobile ad hoc network nodes will be described. A hardware based addressing will be presented as one approach to create a temporary IPv6 address. Furthermore, a solution for minimizing Duplicate Address Detection procedures while generating a globally unique IPv6 address will be explained. I'll wait for your comments. Thanks. Best Regards, Mika --=====================_1659346==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hi all!

I would like to request your comments on my new draft,
"IP Address Autoconfiguration with DAD minimization for Ad Hoc Networks"
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rantonen-manet-idaddress-dad-adhocnet-00.txt

Abstract of draft:

Many kinds of mobile user equipments may want to join or create
wireless local area network. Today connectivity is usually based on
using the IP address as the identifier for the device. However, such
kinds of devices do not necessary have a static IP address. Some
autoconfiguration procedures are developed for fixed networks, but
those procedures have requirements that Manet does not satisfy. For
ad hoc networks, some IPv6 address autoconfiguration solutions are
developed during recent years.
In this document, an autoconfiguration mechanism for mobile ad hoc
network nodes will be described. A hardware based addressing will be
presented as one approach to create a temporary IPv6 address.
Furthermore, a solution for minimizing Duplicate Address Detection
procedures while generating a globally unique IPv6 address will be
explained.

I'll wait for your comments.
Thanks.

Best Regards,

Mika


--=====================_1659346==_.ALT-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Aug 28 04:12:40 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA15211 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 04:12:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sCo6-0003L3-6c for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:46:42 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7S2kgd1012825 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:46:42 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19s95z-0005L3-Cv for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:48:55 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA15838 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:48:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19s95w-0002FZ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:48:52 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19s95v-0002FW-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:48:51 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19s4xJ-0001J7-Lm; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 14:23:41 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19rvZr-0000vZ-PJ for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 04:22:51 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA05499 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 04:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19rvZm-0000xo-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 04:22:46 -0400 Received: from [202.54.124.151] (helo=rediffmail.com) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19rvZl-0000wo-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 04:22:46 -0400 Received: (qmail 25675 invoked by uid 510); 27 Aug 2003 08:21:57 -0000 Date: 27 Aug 2003 08:21:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20030827082157.25674.qmail@webmail6.rediffmail.com> Received: from unknown (202.131.128.21) by rediffmail.com via HTTP; 27 aug 2003 08:21:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Ramachandran D" Reply-To: "Ramachandran D" To: manet@ietf.org Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [manet] Request of Help Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Respected Sir/Madam I am a new to this List and also to MANET. I am a Lecturer working in a Private College. I Like to do Research in MANET. I i need information like the area that i can take to do research in MANET and Books that i can read to understand MANET and Its Protocols nicely, Web Sites etc. Kindly help me Sincerely Ramachandran D Lecturer, KSR College, TIruchengode, Namakkal Dt, Tamil Nadu, India. ___________________________________________________ Meet your old school or college friends from 1 Million + database... Click here to reunite www.batchmates.com/rediff.asp _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Aug 28 08:47:50 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA09485 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:47:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sK7F-000675-FV for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:34:57 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7SAYvSp023495 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:34:57 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sGBE-0008Vn-A4 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 02:22:48 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA06405 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 02:22:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sGB9-0004k3-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 02:22:43 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sGB9-0004jz-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 02:22:43 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sCba-0001sw-0l; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:33:46 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19s8KB-00032F-Qc for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:59:31 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA11850 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:59:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19s8K9-0001RU-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:59:29 -0400 Received: from maredsous.cs.rice.edu ([128.42.129.54]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19s8K8-0001RR-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:59:28 -0400 Received: (from dbj@localhost) by maredsous.cs.rice.edu id h7RM5Rs04913; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:05:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:05:27 -0500 From: Dave Johnson To: Elizabeth Belding-Royer Cc: ans-research@flarion.com, manet@ietf.org, corson@flarion.com Message-ID: <20030827170527.A4848@maredsous.cs.rice.edu> Reply-To: Dave Johnson References: <1062020641.17591.42.camel@yosemite.cs.ucsb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1062020641.17591.42.camel@yosemite.cs.ucsb.edu>; from ebelding@cs.ucsb.edu on Wed, 27 Aug 2003 02:44:02PM -0700 Subject: [manet] Re: IRTF ANS Meeting Announcement Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , For those who haven't seen it already, full details on MobiCom, the location where the IRTF ANS meeting will be held, are available on the web at http://www.sigmobile.org/mobicom/2003/ The AND meeting will take place at the Westin Horton Plaza hotel in San Diego, in the same room where the main sessions of MobiCom will be held. Note that special discounted registration rates for MobiCom and special rates for rooms at the Westin Horton Plaza are available, but the cutoff for these special rates is TOMORROW, Thursday, August 28. After tomorrow, registration is still available, but at higher fees, and hotel rooms are available on a space-available basis. You don't need to register for the conference to attend the ANS meeting, although of course, as the General Chair for MobiCom 2003, I hope you will :-). If you do reserve a room at the hotel, you need to identify yourself as affiliated with MobiCom in order to get the special room rate (this is OK if you are attending the ANS meeting, even if you do not register for the conference, but as I mentioned, I hope you will register for MobiCom too :-). Full details on registering for the conference and reserving a room at the hotel are available on the MobiCom web site above. There is no separate registration just for attending the ANS meeting. Dave -- David B. Johnson General Chair, MobiCom 2003, http://www.sigmobile.org/mobicom/2003/ Associate Professor of Computer Science and Electrical and Computer Engineering Rice University dbj@cs.rice.edu Department of Computer Science http://www.cs.rice.edu/~dbj/ 6100 Main Street, MS-132 Phone: (713) 348-3063 Houston, Texas 77005-1892 USA Fax: (713) 348-5930 Elizabeth Belding-Royer said: > Hi, > > The IETF Ad hoc Network Scalability research group will hold > its second meeting at the Mobicom conference in San Diego. > Specifically, the meeting will be at 5:30pm on Thursday > Sept. 18th, after the adjournment of the Mobicom conference. > The room will be announced later. > > We are soliciting speakers for this meeting to give presentations > on recent research related to ad hoc network scalability. > If you would like to give a presentation, please email both > me (ebelding@cs.ucsb.edu) and Scott (corson@flarion.com) directly > with a paragraph describing what you would like to speak on. > > As preparation for the meeting, it would be beneficial to read > the draft that Zygmunt Haas sent to the mailing list earlier > this month. That draft is located at > http://wnl.ece.cornell.edu/Publications/draft-irtf-ans-scalability-definition-00.txt > > Also please go back in the mail archives and read the message from > Costas Constantinou sent on Jun 11. We will discuss both of these > items at the meeting. > > Hope to see you there! > Elizabeth > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Aug 28 09:18:48 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA12501 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:18:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sKRj-0008J4-6E for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:56:07 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7SAu6Vp031918 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:56:06 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sGlf-0002Gm-N5 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 03:00:27 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA09305 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 03:00:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sGlb-0005UG-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 03:00:23 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sGla-0005UD-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 03:00:22 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sCbO-0001pf-KQ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:33:34 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19s85F-00028V-NF for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:44:05 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA11076 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:43:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19s85D-0001Bu-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:44:03 -0400 Received: from letters.cs.ucsb.edu ([128.111.41.13]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19s85C-0001Bp-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:44:02 -0400 Received: from yosemite.cs.ucsb.edu (yosemite [128.111.40.103]) by letters.cs.ucsb.edu (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h7RLhwS25288; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 14:43:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Elizabeth Belding-Royer To: ans-research@flarion.com, manet@ietf.org Cc: corson@flarion.com, ebelding@cs.ucsb.edu, dbj@cs.rice.edu Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1062020641.17591.42.camel@yosemite.cs.ucsb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Date: 27 Aug 2003 14:44:02 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [manet] IRTF ANS Meeting Announcement Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, The IETF Ad hoc Network Scalability research group will hold its second meeting at the Mobicom conference in San Diego. Specifically, the meeting will be at 5:30pm on Thursday Sept. 18th, after the adjournment of the Mobicom conference. The room will be announced later. We are soliciting speakers for this meeting to give presentations on recent research related to ad hoc network scalability. If you would like to give a presentation, please email both me (ebelding@cs.ucsb.edu) and Scott (corson@flarion.com) directly with a paragraph describing what you would like to speak on. As preparation for the meeting, it would be beneficial to read the draft that Zygmunt Haas sent to the mailing list earlier this month. That draft is located at http://wnl.ece.cornell.edu/Publications/draft-irtf-ans-scalability-definition-00.txt Also please go back in the mail archives and read the message from Costas Constantinou sent on Jun 11. We will discuss both of these items at the meeting. Hope to see you there! Elizabeth _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Aug 28 12:24:15 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA27708 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:24:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sLv9-0005pv-AQ for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:30:35 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7SCUZuk022425 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:30:35 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sLHT-00045W-7V for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:49:35 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA04950 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:49:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sLHS-0004W2-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:49:34 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sLHR-0004Vz-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:49:33 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sJpv-0004lI-9b; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:17:03 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sHaZ-0005WH-T0 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 03:53:03 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA13529 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 03:52:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sHaX-0006ca-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 03:53:01 -0400 Received: from dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr ([130.79.44.193] helo=u-strasbg.fr) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sHaW-0006cR-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 03:53:00 -0400 Received: from PATINET (patinet.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.90.172]) by u-strasbg.fr (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.4) with SMTP id h7S81VXG005302 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:01:32 +0200 Message-ID: <014801c36d39$b93a8750$ac5a4f82@ustrasbg.fr> From: "Christophe Jelger" To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20030827081431.00d839a0@elemail.ele.vtt.fi> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:54:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by u-strasbg.fr id h7S81VXG005302 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [manet] Comments on draft-jelger Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everybody, I've just published a new Internet Draft on IPv6 gateway discovery and address autoconfiguration in ad hoc networks. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-jelger-manet-gateway-autoconf-v= 6-00.txt I am of course very interested by comments and suggestions which are very welcome. For your information, we will have an implementation of the draf= t in a few weeks. Sincerely, Christophe --------------------------------------------------------------- Christophe Jelger - LSIIT jelger@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr Universit=E9 Louis Pasteur Strasbourg - France Tel: +33 (0)3 90 24 45 90 http://www-r2.u-strasbg.fr/~jelger --------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Aug 28 23:51:09 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA20811 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 23:51:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sXw8-0000GM-Aa for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:20:24 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7T1KODk001003 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:20:24 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sUz1-0008BS-AN for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:11:11 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA24061 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:11:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sUyy-0000I6-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:11:08 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sUyx-0000I2-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:11:07 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sQqW-0004BF-1A; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:46:08 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sN7U-0001lu-WE for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:47:25 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA15032 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:47:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sN7T-0007Hu-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:47:23 -0400 Received: from relay1.clb.oleane.net ([213.56.31.21]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sN7S-0007HK-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:47:22 -0400 Received: from oleane ([194.250.212.114]) by relay1.clb.oleane.net with SMTP id h7SDkpMx026669 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:46:51 +0200 Message-ID: <015d01c36d6c$18902020$0601a8c0@oleane.com> From: "Peter Lewis" To: Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:55:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_015A_01C36D7C.DBDEF460" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: [manet] IP-based Cellular Networks Conference 2003 Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_015A_01C36D7C.DBDEF460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The fourth edition of IPCN (IP-based Cellular Networks) will take place = in Paris December 2 to 5, 2003. One of the most interesting new areas is the relationship between the = licensed 2.5/3G services and 802.11 hot spots. How can optimal use be = made of both environments such that a realistic business service is = possible?=20 The objectives of IPCN 2003 is to provide detailed responses to this = question.=20 More details at: http://www.upperside.fr/newmobtech/ipcn03cfp.htm ------=_NextPart_000_015A_01C36D7C.DBDEF460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The fourth edition of IPCN (IP-based Cellular = Networks) will=20 take place in Paris December 2 to 5, 2003.
One of the most interesting new areas is the = relationship=20 between the licensed 2.5/3G services and 802.11 hot spots. How can = optimal use=20 be made of both environments such that a realistic business service is = possible?=20
The objectives of IPCN 2003 is to provide detailed responses to this = question.

More details at:
http://www.uppe= rside.fr/newmobtech/ipcn03cfp.htm
------=_NextPart_000_015A_01C36D7C.DBDEF460-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Aug 29 11:21:07 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA02174 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19skVG-0003jX-G3 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:45:31 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7TEjTU2014341 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:45:29 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sjxB-0001dw-30 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:10:17 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA25907 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:10:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sjx5-00048C-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:10:11 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sjx4-000486-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:10:10 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sisX-00068e-Ty; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:01:25 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sgJr-0006hz-Kq for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:17:27 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA07508 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:17:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sgJn-0007Mj-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:17:23 -0400 Received: from u25.gpu114.samsung.co.kr ([203.254.224.25] helo=mailout2.samsung.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sgJm-0007Lf-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:17:23 -0400 Received: from custom-daemon.mailout2.samsung.com by mailout2.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) id <0HKD00H0DLVZS0@mailout2.samsung.com> for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 19:16:47 +0900 (KST) Received: from ep_mmp2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout2.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HKD00BYTLVSUH@mailout2.samsung.com> for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 19:16:41 +0900 (KST) Received: from daniel7209 ([168.219.203.183]) by mmp2.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0HKD00103LVSPP@mmp2.samsung.com> for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 19:16:40 +0900 (KST) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 19:17:12 +0900 From: Soohong Daniel Park To: manet@ietf.org Cc: Soohong Daniel Park Message-id: <000101c36e16$b66d5420$b7cbdba8@daniel7209> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: [manet] address autoconfiguration requirement and DAD Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Paul Roughly reading, there is a comment as follows o MUST be capable of providing IP address in a reasonable delay. => s/ MUST/ SHOULD o MUST be capable of discovering whether an IP address is currently in use. => s/MUST/ SHOULD Generally, current proposed mechiansms do not perform normal DAD because the probability of an address collision is very low, and DAD is also complex to setup in an adhoc networks. Also this draft has already written below requirement for manual address conf. o SHOULD be able to process the address conflict due to manual address configuration. This draft should make a sync for both... Daniel (Soohong Daniel Park) Mobile Platform Lab,SAMSUNG Electronics _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Aug 29 14:16:15 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA20206 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19snYB-0003Zh-FO for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:00:43 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7TI0gN6013733 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:00:42 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sm7V-0000HM-5X for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 12:29:05 -0400 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA09808 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 12:28:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sl0y-0005Lp-Oh; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:18:16 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19siYV-0005Gh-W6 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 08:40:44 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA18347 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 08:40:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19siYU-00026R-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 08:40:42 -0400 Received: from www5.mail.lycos.com ([209.202.220.85] helo=lycos.com) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19siYT-00025c-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 08:40:41 -0400 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 12:40:01 -0000 To: manet@ietf.org Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 08:40:01 -0400 From: "Yasser A. Lotfy" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: yasser.lotfy@lycos.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service X-Priority: 3 X-Sender-Ip: 134.117.61.61 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://www.mail.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_-=_-NKFMEAGPINHNKCAA" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [manet] The Problem of Alien Node Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. You need a MIME compliant mail reader to completely decode it. --=_-=_-NKFMEAGPINHNKCAA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Length: 966 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I hope you read the attached (word) document which raises awareness of the problem of alien node. Sorry I have to make it in MS-Word since some of the symbols can not be done as text. The problem is simply due to the confusion that takes place when gateways announce there ability to forward packets to generic addresses. Some local ad-hoc nodes may fall in this generic address range. Therefore, packets may (incorrectly) be forwarded to GW. I hope to get feedback if any solution currently exist to this problem. yasser --- *********************************************** A train station is the place where trains stop, A bus station is the place where buses stop, On my desk they installed a workstation !! *********************************************** ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... 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webserver.redes.unb.br id h7TEnZtI018005 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [manet] Classification of autoconfiguration protocols Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How can we classify the autoconfiguration protocols? I think about 2 categories: Classification regarding the autoconfiguration process: * Stateless * Stateful Classification taking into account the process for detection of duplicate= d addresses: * Conflict-free allocation * Conflict-detection allocation * Best-effort allocation And another possibility, which is: * Passive DAD * Active DAD Am I correct? How can we organized all this? --------------------------------------------------- F=E1bio Mesquita Buiati Universidade de Bras=EDlia - UnB Brazil email - fabio@redes.unb.br --------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Sat Aug 30 03:36:25 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA28947 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 03:36:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19szVT-0006Ej-6y for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 02:46:43 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7U6khT4023969 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 02:46:43 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sxF6-0006O1-IR for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 00:21:40 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA07805 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 00:21:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sxF3-0005sQ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 00:21:37 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sxF2-0005sM-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 00:21:36 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19svAR-0000Sm-32; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 22:08:43 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sme6-0001XN-0t for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:02:46 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA14375 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sme4-0001KV-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:02:44 -0400 Received: from metatron.isr.umd.edu ([128.8.111.5] helo=isrmail.isr.umd.edu ident=mirapoint) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sme3-0001KS-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:02:43 -0400 Received: from isr.umd.edu (doh.isr.umd.edu [128.8.140.151]) by isrmail.isr.umd.edu (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.5-GR) with ESMTP id AJT19135; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:02:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3F4F8732.3030802@isr.umd.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:02:42 -0400 From: Manish Karir User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020408 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] The Problem of Alien Node References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm sorry but the point that you are trying to get across is not very clear, and your terminology is quite confusing... perhaps it would become clearer if we knew what your references were...[047-01] and [048-01]. when building a scenario that incorportes both terrestrial and ad hoc nodes, it is best to use address in MANET_PREFIX to identify ad hoc nodes. this way the gateway knows which address are in manet and which are in terrestrial network. These address spaces should be mutually exclusive, or you are going to run into the problems that you describe(atleast thats what I think you are talking about). alternately, if you decide that the two address spaces can intermingle, then you need to run complex registration/deregistration protocols at the gateway to inform the gateway which addresses(nodes) are in the manet.(some hybrid form of MIP). -manish Yasser A. Lotfy wrote: > Hi, > > I hope you read the attached (word) document which raises awareness of the > problem of alien node. Sorry I have to make it in MS-Word since some of the symbols > can not be done as text. > > The problem is simply due to the confusion that takes place when gateways announce > there ability to forward packets to generic addresses. Some local ad-hoc nodes may fall > in this generic address range. Therefore, packets may (incorrectly) be forwarded to GW. > I hope > to get feedback if any solution currently exist to this problem. > > yasser > --- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Sat Aug 30 03:57:42 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA00084 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 03:57:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19szYy-0006mg-Bk for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 02:50:21 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7U6oKs3026068 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 02:50:20 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sxse-00083w-JF for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 01:02:32 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA09513 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 01:02:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sxsb-00075t-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 01:02:29 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sxsb-00075q-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 01:02:29 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sv80-0008Ic-Iy; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 22:06:12 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19su7G-0005JY-Af for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:01:22 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA23938 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:01:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19su7D-0006J8-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:01:19 -0400 Received: from noppei.ie.niigata-u.ac.jp ([133.35.169.34] helo=mh.ie.niigata-u.ac.jp) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19su7B-0006J5-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:01:18 -0400 Received: (qmail 23628 invoked by uid 1003); 30 Aug 2003 01:01:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ibm-jxnz3moc7yy.ie.niigata-u.ac.jp) (133.35.163.150) by noppei.ie.niigata-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Aug 2003 01:01:14 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2-J.20030830091936.05d0fe58@mh.ie.niigata-u.ac.jp> X-Sender: mase@mh.ie.niigata-u.ac.jp X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2-J Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 09:59:27 +0900 To: F=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCYUMbKEI=?=io Buiati , From: mase Subject: Re: [manet] Classification of autoconfiguration protocols In-Reply-To: <01d201c36e3c$6baf75a0$0e43a8c0@piqui> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Fabio, In my view, IP address autoconfiguration for MANET can broadly be classified into Stateless and Stateful approaches. In the stateless approach, a free node (a node without MANET address) obtains its own IP address by itself (self-assignment). The stateless approch includes random assignment, prophet assignment and MAC address-based assignment. In the stateful approach, a free node asks one of the neighbor MANET node to work as the proxy to obtain an IP address. The stateful approach includes address block separation-based assignment and busy address sharing-based assignment. On the other hand, duplicate address detection (DAD) can be classified into proactive and reactive approaches. In the proactive approach, DAD process occurs when address assignment is done. In the reactive approach, DAD occurs in process of MANET routing operation. For example, the following combinations are possible. Stateless assignment + Proactive DAD Stateless assignment + Proactive DAD + Reactive DAD Stateful assignment + Reactive DAD I believe that any assignment methods cannot guarantee duplication (conflict) free assignment under MANET environment, where MANET patition and merge may occur. This is the reason, why DAD is required. Note that proactive assignment cannot guarantee perfect detection. This is the reason why reactive DAD is required, I am happy to hear any comments on my view. Regards, Kenichi Mase, Niigata University, Japan At 11:47 03/08/29 -0300, F$BaC(Bio Buiati wrote: >How can we classify the autoconfiguration protocols? > >I think about 2 categories: > >Classification regarding the autoconfiguration process: >* Stateless >* Stateful > >Classification taking into account the process for detection of duplicated >addresses: >* Conflict-free allocation >* Conflict-detection allocation >* Best-effort allocation > >And another possibility, which is: >* Passive DAD >* Active DAD > >Am I correct? >How can we organized all this? > >--------------------------------------------------- >F$BaC(Bio Mesquita Buiati >Universidade de Bras$ByM(Bia - UnB Brazil >email - fabio@redes.unb.br >--------------------------------------------------- > > >_______________________________________________ >manet mailing list >manet@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Sat Aug 30 04:58:05 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA02553 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 04:58:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19t0U5-000127-0a for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 03:49:22 -0400 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h7U7nJeQ003950 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 03:49:19 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19sy86-0001Ah-KR for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 01:18:30 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA10299 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 01:18:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sy83-0007c9-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 01:18:27 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19sy82-0007c6-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 01:18:26 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19svX0-0001d6-RC; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 22:32:02 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19stjI-0003xs-26 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 20:36:36 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA22298 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 20:36:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19stjF-0005fk-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 20:36:33 -0400 Received: from [129.254.16.14] (helo=cms4.cms.etri.re.kr) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19stjF-0005ez-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 20:36:33 -0400 Received: from jafywinxp (pd412h.etri.re.kr [129.254.112.174]) by cms4.cms.etri.re.kr with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2656.59) id R279FYC0; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 09:35:40 +0900 Reply-To: From: "HyunWook Cha" To: , Cc: Subject: RE: [manet] The Problem of Alien Node Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 09:35:59 +0900 Message-ID: <000001c36e8e$af08b260$ae70fe81@jafywinxp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi yasser, I think that you are considering the case where a manet has several partitions, and souce and destination node reside in different partitions and LAA(local alien address) of the destination node is assigned from a gateway which is different from chosen gateway by source node. If so, I do not see any problem. If a link in ad hoc extension through which packets destined to the destination node traverse fails, sender will be notified by ICMP destination unreachable message from the destination side gateway and it will do host route discovery in case of reactive routing protocols such as AODV, DSR. While this event does not occur, communiation between source and destination will continue without any problem. HyunWook Cha -----Original Message----- From: manet-admin@ietf.org [mailto:manet-admin@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Yasser A. Lotfy Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 9:40 PM To: manet@ietf.org Cc: manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil Subject: [manet] The Problem of Alien Node Hi, I hope you read the attached (word) document which raises awareness of the problem of alien node. Sorry I have to make it in MS-Word since some of the symbols can not be done as text. The problem is simply due to the confusion that takes place when gateways announce there ability to forward packets to generic addresses. Some local ad-hoc nodes may fall in this generic address range. Therefore, packets may (incorrectly) be forwarded to GW. I hope to get feedback if any solution currently exist to this problem. yasser --- *********************************************** A train station is the place where trains stop, A bus station is the place where buses stop, On my desk they installed a workstation !! *********************************************** ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... 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