From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Jan 1 20:38:22 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA29610 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 2004 20:38:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcEGA-00016H-01 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 01 Jan 2004 20:37:55 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i021brRG004223 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 1 Jan 2004 20:37:53 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcEG9-00015p-0H for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 01 Jan 2004 20:37:53 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA29602 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 2004 20:37:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcEG6-0004zd-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Jan 2004 20:37:50 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AcEEM-0004y4-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Jan 2004 20:36:05 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcEDz-0004w9-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Jan 2004 20:35:39 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcEDP-0000hb-LA; Thu, 01 Jan 2004 20:35:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcECY-0000gn-PG for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 01 Jan 2004 20:34:10 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA29490 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 2004 20:34:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcECW-0004v7-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Jan 2004 20:34:08 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AcEAS-0004sY-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Jan 2004 20:32:03 -0500 Received: from mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.187]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcE9D-0004mg-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Jan 2004 20:30:43 -0500 Received: from web4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.186]) by mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040102012806.REMG7964.mta205-rme.xtra.co.nz@web4-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 14:28:06 +1300 Received: from privatesung ([219.88.203.30]) by web4-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040102012806.EOSW23454.web4-rme.xtra.co.nz@privatesung> for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 14:28:06 +1300 Reply-To: From: "ray cho" To: Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 14:28:07 +1300 Organization: NRG Message-ID: <000001c3d0cf$ad261e30$0201a8c0@privatesung> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3D13C.A420ECD0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: [manet] [help] how to impose BER in the ad hoc link? Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3D13C.A420ECD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please tell me how to impose varying BER to ad hoc link between end nodes. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3D13C.A420ECD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3D13C.A420ECD0-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 2 02:11:09 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA18782 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 02:11:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcJS6-0002b7-Og for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:10:41 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i027AYT9009986 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 02:10:34 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcJS6-0002az-4I for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:10:34 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA18135 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 02:10:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcJS2-00007k-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:10:30 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AcJPz-00001y-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:08:26 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcJNT-0007kO-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:05:47 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcJMk-0001pH-T8; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:05:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcJMb-0001ob-TH for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:04:55 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA12427 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 02:04:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcJMP-0007k4-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:04:41 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AcJIP-0007g7-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:00:36 -0500 Received: from [61.187.56.10] (helo=ksg.nudt.edu.cn) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcJHG-0007dJ-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 01:59:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ksg.nudt.edu.cn (CA-JinChen ISG) with SMTP id 05ABCA9ED; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 14:58:32 +0800 (CST) X-KILLShieldGateway-Checked: Fri Jan 2 14:58:32 2004 Received: from gnufree (unknown [172.26.20.200]) by ksg.nudt.edu.cn (CA-JinChen ISG) with SMTP id CCF92A904; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 14:58:31 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <01b201c3d0fe$37fcc990$c8141aac@gnufree> Reply-To: "jjinfo" From: "jjinfo" To: Cc: References: <00d001c3ce82$97581b70$c8141aac@gnufree> <3FA4AC00.9DC520B6@hyd.hellosoft.com> Subject: Re: [manet] about the routing security research in MANET and its future direction Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 15:01:17 +0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , There are lots of related papers about cooperation in MANET you can find using google. Most of them can be classified as : preventive, encentive, detectiion and isolation. Some use game theory to stimulate cooperation among selfish nodes. But in my opinion, there no systematic method/algorithm to solve this problem And I find it's dificult to create new protocol/method to solve the security problem in MANET. I am so disapeared and confused . And can you tell me about your research status, such as your direction,your plan,your method, and your feeling? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arunachalam" To: "jjinfo" Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [manet] about the routing security research in MANET and its future direction > Hi, > > I am working on the co-operation of nodes in manets, specifically > the security aspects. Could you kindly suggest me some links > of any papers published on this matter. > > I would be grateful to you, for your help. > > with regards, > Arunachalam. > > jjinfo wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I am doing my Ph.D research on routing security in MANET. > > After reading lots of paper related, I find two research diretions: > > 1.the cooperation enforcement in open MANET > > 2. the secure routing agaist malicious node in managed MANET,such as > > battlefield application. > > > > For the first topic,there have been many methods, like encentive, detection > > and isolation.and maybe Game theory is a good choice. > > For the latter, security protocol and cryptography operation are needed.so > > the core work should be key management,which there have been lots of work > > on. > > > > and in recent IEEE/ACM conference/proceedings, few papers on this topic can > > be found. > > why? > > Is this field still worth researching? > > and what's the future direction in this field? > > Is anybody doing the same topic? then how about your woek now? > > any advice is welcom! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > manet mailing list > > manet@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 2 03:32:31 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA22614 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 03:32:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcKix-00071p-2D for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 03:32:03 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i028W23u027009 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 03:32:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcKiw-00071X-JF for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 03:32:02 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA22584 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 03:32:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcKiu-0003Mk-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 03:32:00 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AcKhE-0003JH-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 03:30:19 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcKgG-0003GL-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 03:29:16 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcKg1-0006fw-He; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 03:29:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcKfD-0006f6-O8 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 03:28:11 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA22499 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 03:28:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcKfB-0003ER-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 03:28:09 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AcKdb-0003AY-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 03:26:34 -0500 Received: from cms4.etri.re.kr ([129.254.16.14] helo=cms4.cms.etri.re.kr) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcKbt-00035l-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 03:24:45 -0500 Received: from jafywinxp (pd412h.etri.re.kr [129.254.112.174]) by cms4.cms.etri.re.kr with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id Z66M8F0T; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 17:27:11 +0900 Reply-To: From: "HyunWook Cha" To: Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 17:24:16 +0900 Message-ID: <002101c3d109$cf770320$ae70fe81@jafywinxp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [manet] RE: Comments on the draft-paakkonen-addressing-htr-manet-00.txt Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Pekka. Thanks for the reply which corrects my comments. Please see comments below. > > Let me try to understand how the entries become inconsistent: > Once the MANET-node has performed the global connectivity > procedures the routing tables are configured as in figure 6. > The AODV-node maintains > reachability > to the gateway with periodic updates (RREQ, RREP) and keeps > the entries for the default gateway and AR based on the > updates. If some other node such as AODV-node2 executes route > discovery for AR via the intermediate node, the > intermediate > node could update a different next-hop for the AR than > already exists for > the default route, right? > (AR-> next-hop2; ::/0 -> next-hop1) > > When the periodic updates would again be performed by the > AODV-node, the > entries for the AR and > default router at the intermediate nodes would be updated. > I see. In your draft, same type of RREP which is with I-flag set is used for two phases(prefix discovery, route refresh). So, in above scenario, this issue can be resolved by sending unicast RREQ becauase the route entry for AR is still valid though default route is not available. How about the other case where the new path for AR is broken before RREQ message is issued? In this case, the node should broadcast RREQ though it does have valid route entry for the default router which can be used as one for the AR. I think that this is inefficient behavior which should be avoided since we can not guarantee that this is only rare case which is negligible under reactive routing protocols. > >Next issue is about consideration of multiple gateways. Your > idea does > >not work in this situation since intermediate nodes can choose > >different gatways for default routes from sender node. This can lead > >the ingress filtering. > > True. It should also be taken into account. > > >Well, I think that the use of routing header which is > preferred to next > >hop forwarding in R.Wakikawa's I-D is one solution. Because > we do not > >have to concern frequent inconsistent route information for default > >route and actual gateway as well as ingress filtering. Also, all > >intermediate nodes do not need to have default route entry, and only > >sender node does. IMO, kernel routing table issue can be avoided if > >routing header can be inserted and pre-processing in which dst ip in > >IPv6 is swapped with gateway ip in routing header can be done in > >LOCAL_IN netfilter hooking point. (the feasibility is not sure, any > >comments?). > > This is the other choise of global communication. It has > routing header overhead in the form of additional processing > and space in every IPv6 packet? Doesn't the source have to > know in this case whether or not the destination is in the > MANET or not? If not, insert a routing header. Otherwise send > the packet normally. Could failure in route discovery provide > this information? I haven't tested this alternative. > Right. However, the use of routing header has several valuable advantages including maximized address stability and use of optimal route. In addition, it works well with multiple gateways since routing header leads packets to the right gateway. As many drafts including yours point out, implementation of this requires kernel patch as MIPL of HUT does for type 2 routing header. I think that alternative designs should avoid the use of routing header while keeping all advantages mentioned above and requires additional processing overhead as least as possible. > > So the benefit of using the source address based routing is > support for ingress filtering. I guess the intermediate nodes > would perform ingress filtering in the form of source based > routing (if no gateway prefix matches the source prefix => > discard packet?)? Would this solution support also multiple > gateways? How do the intermediate nodes maintain the gateway > information, based on which source based routing is > performed? Please go ahead and write a more detailed draft. > It is easier to give > comments based on > it. > Ok. I will do that. > > >In further, it is not > >allowed a manet node to communicate with a IPv6/MIPv6-node directly > >when HoA of the IPv6/MIPv6-node is involved in this > communiation even > >though they are also reachable. Is this desirable? I do not think so. > > The communication between a MANET-node and an IPv6-node goes > via the AR, > because > the IPv6-node does not understand MANET related messages. The local > IPv6/MIPv6 nodes > are treated as the global Internet nodes, because they have a > different > IPv6 prefix from the one > received from the AR. > Could you point out for example in a picture how a MANET-node > could not > communicate > with an IPv6/MIPv6-node via its HA? > I am sorry. I misunderstood that an IPv6/MIPv6-node is equipped with a MANET routing protocol. Anyway, do you consider this case which I intend to point? > > My > >suggestion is as follows. > > > >1. If (dest is a site-local addres) > > execute route discovery. > >2. if (prefix of dest is global) > > send packets via the default router in parallel with the > >excution of route discovery. > > > >IMO, destination ip does not give sufficient hint to distinguish > >whether dest node resides in the MANET or not. IPv6-node with same > >prefix as sender node can not reply RREQ though it is > reachable in the > >MANET. Also, HoA of a IPv6/MIPv6-node can be reachable in the MANET. > > > >In order to implement this scheme, rt entry for AODV is > managed in four > >states: > > > >1. NoHints - may be reachable in local MANET or outside the > MANET. To > >do > >- send packets via the default router in parallel with the > excution of > >route discovery. > >2. ValidHostRoute - a node has valid host route. To do - send packets > >via host route. > >3. NotValidHostRoute - a node has invalid host route. To do > - execute > >route discovery. packets are enqueued. > >4. InternetNode - a node consider dest as an Internet node > outside the > >MANET. To do - send packets via the default router. > > > >For a given communication with destination with global ip, state > >transitions can be different according scenarios. > > > >1->2 : the success of route discovery > >1->4 : ttl used for route discovery is above threshold or on > receiving > >1->a > >packet from the destination.(I assume that the packet should > be replied > >to a packet sent by sender) (2->)3->2 : normal case > >(2->)3->4 : ttl used for route discovery is above threshold > >2 or 3 or 4 -> 1 : timer expired. > > I guess you point out that the IPv6 prefix should not solely > be used to > determine > whether or not the destination is in the same MANET, and the > algorithm > could be > improved to support that notion. > Can you assume that the destination answers to the packets > send by the > sender (1->4)? > This does not always happen (consider UDP traffic). > Right. In case of UDP, the transition (1->4) occurs when ttl used for route discovery is above threshold. To reduce unnecessary RREQs during state 1, cache or route information of local host or other nodes can be helful. In further, user or application's input(hint) via extened socket option can be helpful for determination of whether a destination is inside the MANET or not. Regards, HyunWook _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 2 12:41:52 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA16529 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 12:41:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcTIb-0000ef-Ms for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 12:41:26 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i02HfP4F002511 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 12:41:25 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcTIb-0000eQ-FX for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 12:41:25 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA16499 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 12:41:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcTIY-00030q-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 12:41:22 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AcTGL-0002tl-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 12:39:08 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcTEa-0002nY-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 12:37:16 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcTEO-0008O8-O5; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 12:37:04 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcTE0-0008MH-IG for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 12:36:40 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA16383 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 12:36:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcTDy-0002lb-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 12:36:38 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AcTC9-0002gn-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 12:34:48 -0500 Received: from [202.179.135.10] (helo=ciit.net.pk) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcTAZ-0002cR-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 12:33:09 -0500 Received: from WorldClient [127.0.0.1] by ciit.net.pk [202.179.135.10] with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v5.0.1.R) for ; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:36:56 +0500 Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:36:55 +0500 From: "Usman" To: A.MURAD@UNRWA.ORG CC: manet@ietf.org Subject: RE: [manet] MANET Simulators MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.1 In-Reply-To: <052033A55521254893A4E2041957E1D096B2F9@mail03.student.main.ntu.edu.sg> X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: usman@ciit.net.pk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: manet@ietf.org Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ietf.org id MAA16384 Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Muarad there is another simulator named "MoWiNet" . regards. Usman -----Original Message----- From: "#LI ZHUOWEI#" To: "MURAD, Ayman" Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 11:04:06 +0800 Subject: RE: [manet] MANET Simulators > Dear Murad Ayman, >=20 > Please google glomosim and OPNET, and you will find these two MANET > simulators except the NS-2. >=20 > In addition, I remember there are some papers related to the modeling > methods. You can google it or download it from some personal websites. >=20 > Good luck and Happy New Year ... >=20 > =20 > Regards! >=20 > Sincerely yours, > Li Zhuowei > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > Ph.D. candidate > Email: zhwei.li@pmail.ntu.edu.sg =20 > More: http://www.cais.ntu.edu.sg/~zhuowei > =81@ >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: manet-admin@ietf.org [mailto:manet-admin@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > MURAD, Ayman > Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 5:09 PM > To: manet@ietf.org > Subject: [manet] MANET Simulators >=20 >=20 > Hi everybody, >=20 > I just want to know is that whether the NS-2 the only network simulator > that is available for simulating MANETs? >=20 > Are there some simulators for migration based models. >=20 > I would be really grateful if anybody could help me out and my advance > thanks for them >=20 >=20 > Happy 2004 > =20 > Ayman=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet >=20 > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Sat Jan 3 11:27:06 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA05980 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 11:27:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Acobl-0007fJ-JN for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 11:26:37 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i03GQb6H029462 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 11:26:37 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Acobl-0007f7-EN for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 11:26:37 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA05918 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 11:26:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Acobk-0004wZ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 11:26:36 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AcoZx-0004mO-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 11:24:46 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcoW0-0004Vs-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 11:20:40 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcoVR-0007M8-BO; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 11:20:05 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcoVK-0007L7-8E for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 11:19:58 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA05769 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 11:19:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcoV9-0004Ur-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 11:19:47 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AcoOt-0004Gg-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 11:13:20 -0500 Received: from [195.245.128.51] (helo=smtp.oninet.pt) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcoMQ-00044v-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 11:10:46 -0500 Received: from wkstcdae ([213.58.20.152]) by smtp.oninet.pt with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.647.64); Sat, 3 Jan 2004 16:09:38 +0000 Message-ID: <00ac01c3d213$2714c4f0$98143ad5@wkstcdae> From: "Fernando Correia" To: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 16:03:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C3D213.25EAC3E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Subject: [manet] QoS on AdHoc networks Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C3D213.25EAC3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 I am interested in finding papers about QoS in AdHoc networks. 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------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C3D213.25EAC3E0-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Sat Jan 3 22:06:37 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA21927 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 22:06:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Acyad-0001I9-Ka for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 22:06:07 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i04367N6004964 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 22:06:07 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Acyad-0001Hz-Ee for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 22:06:07 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA21915 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 22:06:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcyaT-00004o-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 22:05:57 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AcyYT-0007kU-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 22:03:54 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcyTy-0007eN-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 21:59:14 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcyTl-0000wI-Sw; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 21:59:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AcyTY-0000vi-CX for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 21:58:50 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA21822 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 21:58:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcyTR-0007d9-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 21:58:42 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AcyRc-0007a9-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 21:56:49 -0500 Received: from web8311.mail.in.yahoo.com ([203.199.122.11]) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AcyQu-0007Vs-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 21:56:05 -0500 Message-ID: <20040104025533.15739.qmail@web8311.mail.in.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.141.64.110] by web8311.mail.in.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 04 Jan 2004 02:55:33 GMT Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 02:55:33 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ash=20Mohammad=20Abbas?= Subject: Re: [manet] QoS on AdHoc networks To: Fernando Correia , manet@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <00ac01c3d213$2714c4f0$98143ad5@wkstcdae> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Try using Google, there are many papers available on QoS in ad hoc networks. Abbas --- Fernando Correia wrote: > > I am interested in finding papers about QoS in AdHoc > networks. > > If anybody knows where I can get this kind of > information, I would appreciate it if you can e-mail > me the links. > > > Regards, > Fernando Correia > > Ph.D. candidate > Email: ribeiro.correia@mail.marinha.pt > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release > Date: 02-01-2004 > ===== Ash Mohammad Abbashttp://www.cse.iitd.ernet.in/~abbas ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Jan 5 20:58:03 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA17985 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 20:58:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AdgTO-0001Tt-N1 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:57:34 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i061vYW2005694 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 20:57:34 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AdgTO-0001Tl-Io for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:57:34 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA17951 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 20:57:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AdgTL-0001BC-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:57:31 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AdgRK-00017A-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:55:27 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AdgQ9-00014X-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:54:13 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AdgPx-0001BL-W2; Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:54:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AdgPP-0001AH-Qv for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:53:27 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA17918 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 20:53:24 -0500 (EST) From: stilak1@binghamton.edu Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AdgPM-00013E-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:53:24 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AdgNU-00011I-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:51:29 -0500 Received: from bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu ([128.226.1.18]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AdgMk-0000yg-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2004 20:50:42 -0500 Received: from bingsun2.cc.binghamton.edu (bingsun2.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.6.4]) by bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i061oCQ6027362 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 20:50:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (stilak1@localhost) by bingsun2.cc.binghamton.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id i061oCxj022948 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 20:50:12 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: bingsun2.cc.binghamton.edu: stilak1 owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 20:50:12 -0500 (EST) X-X-Sender: stilak1@bingsun2.cc.binghamton.edu To: manet@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [manet] Regarding Chaning bandwidth at physical layer Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Hi All, I have one doubt regarding changing bandwidth at the physical layer in case of IEEE 802.11. I found out that there are extensions to the existing physical layer that allow you to send PLCP header etc at much highre rate such as 11Mbps. However in that case, do we need to alter other parameters such as DSSS_{Sltotime,SIFSTime...} etc. As an example I am giving the way these parameters are setup in ns-2.26 I have altered PLCPDataRate to 11Mbps. But not sure about what should I do for otther parameters. I will really appreciate any help on this issue. ns-2 paramters list: #define DSSS_SlotTime 0.000020 // 20us #define DSSS_CCATime 0.000015 // 15us #define DSSS_RxTxTurnaroundTime 0.000005 // 5us #define DSSS_SIFSTime 0.000010 // 10us #define DSSS_PreambleLength 144 // 144 bits #define DSSS_PLCPHeaderLength 48 // 48 bits //#define DSSS_PLCPDataRate 1.0e6 // 1Mbps #define DSSS_PLCPDataRate 11.0e6 // 1Mbps Regards, --Sameer Tilak. _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 6 03:28:09 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA10430 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 03:28:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AdmYu-0007NB-3V for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 03:27:40 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i068Rdcw028326 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 03:27:39 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AdmYs-0007Mm-PS for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 03:27:38 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA10386 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 03:27:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AdmYq-0000d1-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 03:27:36 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AdmX2-0000YN-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 03:25:45 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AdmVo-0000Ti-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 03:24:28 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AdmVP-00072K-T9; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 03:24:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AdmUU-00070I-Dz for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 03:23:06 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA10245 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 03:23:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AdmUS-0000Od-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 03:23:04 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AdmSg-0000Jg-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 03:21:15 -0500 Received: from ms01.net.ie.niigata-u.ac.jp ([133.35.156.1] ident=postfix) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AdmQU-0000EB-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 03:18:58 -0500 Received: from msq114 (ms02.net.ie.niigata-u.ac.jp [133.35.156.2]) by ms01.net.ie.niigata-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with SMTP id 311FC11E11 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:18:10 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:19:14 +0900 From: skame To: manet@ietf.org Message-Id: <20040106171914.2e9f08fc.skame@net.ie.niigata-u.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-vine-linux) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [manet] About COHERENCE_TIME Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, all. I'm GloMoSimu user. I want to simulate with fading model(RAYLEIGH) in adhoc. In radio_accnoise.h, default COHERENCE_TIME value is 1000000. COHERENCE_TIME is assumed to be larger than the time for a packet and the associated MAC control packets. As what value should COHERENCE_TIME be set? I want to set COHERENCE_TIME as zero when no mobility scenario. Because I want the fading not to be kept constant during the frame sequence for each data packet. What does this influence? Move speed of a node? If anybody knows where I can get this kind of information, I would appreciate it if you can e-mail me the links. Regards skame. _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 6 08:50:20 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA18187 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:50:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Adrae-0001ma-TY for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 08:49:52 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i06DnmPv006846 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:49:48 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Adrae-0001mL-Pl for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 08:49:48 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA18145 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:49:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Adrad-0005OF-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 08:49:47 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AdrYr-0005JD-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 08:47:58 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AdrXD-0005Ek-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 08:46:15 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AdrX0-0001Sg-Eu; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 08:46:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AdrWg-0001S0-TA for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 08:45:43 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA18077 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:45:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AdrWf-0005Ci-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 08:45:41 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AdrUi-0005AI-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 08:43:42 -0500 Received: from melanieb.vtt.fi ([130.188.1.12]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AdrT1-00055S-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 08:41:55 -0500 Received: from elemail.ele.vtt.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by melanieb.vtt.fi (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i06De4Ki021359; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 15:40:05 +0200 (EET) Received: from oulkv10326.vtt.fi (ele4114.ele.vtt.fi [130.188.94.114]) by elemail.ele.vtt.fi (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA16619; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 15:41:08 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20040106145855.00c37c10@elemail.ele.vtt.fi> X-Sender: eleppa@elemail.ele.vtt.fi X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 15:40:45 +0200 To: , From: Pekka =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E4=E4kk=F6nen?= Cc: "'autonet'" In-Reply-To: <000d01c3d105$cdd89230$ae70fe81@jafywinxp> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20031231084151.00c3b9f0@elemail.ele.vtt.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [manet] RE: Comments on the draft-paakkonen-addressing-htr-manet-00.txt Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 At 16:55 2.1.2004 +0900, HyunWook Cha wrote: >Hello, Pekka. > >Thanks for the reply which corrects my comments. Please see comments >below. > > > > > Let me try to understand how the entries become inconsistent: > > Once the MANET-node has performed the global connectivity > > procedures the routing tables are configured as in figure 6. > > The AODV-node maintains > > reachability > > to the gateway with periodic updates (RREQ, RREP) and keeps > > the entries for the default gateway and AR based on the > > updates. If some other node such as AODV-node2 executes route > > discovery for AR via the intermediate node, the > > intermediate > > node could update a different next-hop for the AR than > > already exists for > > the default route, right? > > (AR-> next-hop2; ::/0 -> next-hop1) > > > > When the periodic updates would again be performed by the > > AODV-node, the > > entries for the AR and > > default router at the intermediate nodes would be updated. > > > >I see. In your draft, same type of RREP which is with I-flag set is >used for two phases(prefix discovery, route refresh). So, in above >scenario, this issue can be resolved by sending unicast RREQ becauase >the route entry for AR is still valid though default route is not >available. The I-flag is set only in the prefix discovery phase. The route refresh related messages (RREQ, RREP) are sent with I-flag set to zero as can be seen in figure 6 of the draft. >How about the other case where the new path for AR is broken before >RREQ message is issued? In this case, the node should broadcast RREQ >though it does have valid route entry for the default router which can >be used as one for the AR. I think that this is inefficient behavior >which should be avoided since we can not guarantee that this is only >rare case which is negligible under reactive routing protocols. If the new path is broken (next-hop2) and the old one is not broken (next-hop1) then the old next-hop is used as described in the draft. Am I missing something here? > > >Next issue is about consideration of multiple gateways. Your > > idea does > > >not work in this situation since intermediate nodes can choose > > >different gatways for default routes from sender node. This can lead > > >the ingress filtering. > > > > True. It should also be taken into account. > > > > >Well, I think that the use of routing header which is > > preferred to next > > >hop forwarding in R.Wakikawa's I-D is one solution. Because > > we do not > > >have to concern frequent inconsistent route information for default > > >route and actual gateway as well as ingress filtering. Also, all > > >intermediate nodes do not need to have default route entry, and only > > >sender node does. IMO, kernel routing table issue can be avoided if > > >routing header can be inserted and pre-processing in which dst ip in > > >IPv6 is swapped with gateway ip in routing header can be done in > > >LOCAL_IN netfilter hooking point. (the feasibility is not sure, any > > >comments?). > > > > This is the other choise of global communication. It has > > routing header overhead in the form of additional processing > > and space in every IPv6 packet? Doesn't the source have to > > know in this case whether or not the destination is in the > > MANET or not? If not, insert a routing header. Otherwise send > > the packet normally. Could failure in route discovery provide > > this information? I haven't tested this alternative. > > > >Right. However, the use of routing header has several valuable >advantages including maximized address stability and use of optimal >route. In addition, it works well with multiple gateways since routing >header leads packets to the right gateway. As many drafts including >yours point out, implementation of this requires kernel patch as MIPL >of HUT does for type 2 routing header. > >I think that alternative designs should avoid the use of routing header >while keeping all advantages mentioned above and requires additional >processing overhead as least as possible. > Could you point out what "maximized address stability" means? How does the use of routing header enable optimal routing compared to next-hop routing? > > > > So the benefit of using the source address based routing is > > support for ingress filtering. I guess the intermediate nodes > > would perform ingress filtering in the form of source based > > routing (if no gateway prefix matches the source prefix => > > discard packet?)? Would this solution support also multiple > > gateways? How do the intermediate nodes maintain the gateway > > information, based on which source based routing is > > performed? Please go ahead and write a more detailed draft. > > It is easier to give > > comments based on > > it. > > > >Ok. I will do that. > > > > > >In further, it is not > > >allowed a manet node to communicate with a IPv6/MIPv6-node directly > > >when HoA of the IPv6/MIPv6-node is involved in this > > communiation even > > >though they are also reachable. Is this desirable? I do not think so. > > > > The communication between a MANET-node and an IPv6-node goes > > via the AR, > > because > > the IPv6-node does not understand MANET related messages. The local > > IPv6/MIPv6 nodes > > are treated as the global Internet nodes, because they have a > > different > > IPv6 prefix from the one > > received from the AR. > > Could you point out for example in a picture how a MANET-node > > could not > > communicate > > with an IPv6/MIPv6-node via its HA? > > > >I am sorry. I misunderstood that an IPv6/MIPv6-node is equipped with a >MANET routing protocol. Anyway, do you consider this case which I >intend to point? If an IPv6-node is equipped with MANET-routing protocol, it may use its configured global address or site-local address for communication with the other MANET-nodes. If a MIPv6-node is enhanced with a MANET-routing protocol, then either the home address or COA is used as a MANET-address for communication depending on whether or not the node is at home. There shouldn't be a problem? > > > My > > >suggestion is as follows. > > > > > >1. If (dest is a site-local addres) > > > execute route discovery. > > >2. if (prefix of dest is global) > > > send packets via the default router in parallel with the > > >excution of route discovery. > > > > > >IMO, destination ip does not give sufficient hint to distinguish > > >whether dest node resides in the MANET or not. IPv6-node with same > > >prefix as sender node can not reply RREQ though it is > > reachable in the > > >MANET. Also, HoA of a IPv6/MIPv6-node can be reachable in the MANET. > > > > > >In order to implement this scheme, rt entry for AODV is > > managed in four > > >states: > > > > > >1. NoHints - may be reachable in local MANET or outside the > > MANET. To > > >do > > >- send packets via the default router in parallel with the > > excution of > > >route discovery. > > >2. ValidHostRoute - a node has valid host route. To do - send packets > > >via host route. > > >3. NotValidHostRoute - a node has invalid host route. To do > > - execute > > >route discovery. packets are enqueued. > > >4. InternetNode - a node consider dest as an Internet node > > outside the > > >MANET. To do - send packets via the default router. > > > > > >For a given communication with destination with global ip, state > > >transitions can be different according scenarios. > > > > > >1->2 : the success of route discovery > > >1->4 : ttl used for route discovery is above threshold or on > > receiving > > >1->a > > >packet from the destination.(I assume that the packet should > > be replied > > >to a packet sent by sender) (2->)3->2 : normal case > > >(2->)3->4 : ttl used for route discovery is above threshold > > >2 or 3 or 4 -> 1 : timer expired. > > > > I guess you point out that the IPv6 prefix should not solely > > be used to > > determine > > whether or not the destination is in the same MANET, and the > > algorithm > > could be > > improved to support that notion. > > Can you assume that the destination answers to the packets > > send by the > > sender (1->4)? > > This does not always happen (consider UDP traffic). > > > >Right. In case of UDP, the transition (1->4) occurs when ttl used for >route discovery is above threshold. To reduce unnecessary RREQs during >state 1, cache or route information of local host or other nodes can be >helful. In further, user or application's input(hint) via extened >socket option can be helpful for determination of whether a destination >is inside the MANET or not. Do you mean TTL in the RREQ originally sent by the source and forwarded by the intermediate nodes? And then some intermediate node notices that the TTL is bigger than threshold and sends a RREP to the source? I guess application layer hints could be used, but cannot be relied on, and because of it there should exist a solution for destination determination at the network layer. Pekka >Regards, > >HyunWook _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 6 14:03:59 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA29076 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:03:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AdwUE-0004rj-Bl for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 14:03:31 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i06J3UsA018702 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:03:30 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AdwUE-0004rZ-8q for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 14:03:30 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA29070 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:03:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AdwU6-0003KC-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 14:03:22 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AdwQi-0003Bw-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 13:59:53 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AdwP6-000374-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 13:58:12 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AdwOv-0004TJ-JP; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 13:58:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AdwOh-0004Sy-Th for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 13:57:48 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA28925 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 13:57:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AdwOf-00033r-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 13:57:45 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AdwMr-0002z6-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 13:55:54 -0500 Received: from smtp.eecs.umich.edu ([141.213.4.43]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AdwM0-0002uO-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 13:55:00 -0500 Received: from clueless.eecs.umich.edu (clueless.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.18.225]) by smtp.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i06IsIMB029613 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 6 Jan 2004 13:54:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 13:54:12 -0500 (EST) From: Mingyan Liu To: manet@ietf.org, , , Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 Subject: [manet] WWIC'04 Call for Participation Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Please accept our apologies if you receive multiple copies. ========================================================================== CALL FOR PARTICIPATION The 2nd International Conference on Wired/Wireless Internet Communications (WWIC'04) February 04-06, 2004 FRANKFURT (ODER), GERMANY http://www.wwic2004.de/ * Early registration by January 14, 2004 * * Registration available on conference website * You are invited to join us at WWIC 2004, the 2nd International Conference on Wired/Wireless Internet Communications. 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Organizers General Chairs: Vassilis Tsaoussidis, Demokritos University, Greece Ibrahim Matta, Boston University, USA TPC Chairs: Peter Langendoerfer, IHP, Germany Mingyan Liu, University of Michigan, USA _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 6 20:36:51 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA15442 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:36:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ae2cO-0004Lj-NR for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:36:23 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i071aKRQ016717 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:36:20 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ae2cO-0004LY-J8 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:36:20 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA15427 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:36:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae2cM-0005HZ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:36:18 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae2b0-00058P-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:34:55 -0500 Received: from [65.246.255.50] (helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae2YF-0004rc-02 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:32:03 -0500 Received: from optimus22.ietf.org ([132.151.6.22] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by mx2.foretec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Ae2I9-0000fq-0G for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:15:25 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ae2Hq-0003Or-Dc; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:15:06 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ae2HZ-0003KK-Sh for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:14:52 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA14423 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:14:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae2HX-00049n-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:14:47 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae2FT-0003ud-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:12:40 -0500 Received: from cms4.etri.re.kr ([129.254.16.14] helo=cms4.cms.etri.re.kr) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae2EE-0003aU-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:11:22 -0500 Received: from jafywinxp (pd412h.etri.re.kr [129.254.112.174]) by cms4.cms.etri.re.kr with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id CK0BFF5M; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:13:27 +0900 Reply-To: From: "HyunWook Cha" To: "=?iso-2022-jp?B?J1Bla2thIFAbJEJgQBsoQmtrP2VuJw==?=" , Cc: "'autonet'" Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:10:47 +0900 Message-ID: <000f01c3d4bb$16360e00$ae70fe81@jafywinxp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20040106145855.00c37c10@elemail.ele.vtt.fi> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [manet] RE: Comments on the draft-paakkonen-addressing-htr-manet-00.txt Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Pekka. Please see my comments below. > >I see. In your draft, same type of RREP which is with I-flag set is > >used for two phases(prefix discovery, route refresh). So, in above > >scenario, this issue can be resolved by sending unicast RREQ > becauase > >the route entry for AR is still valid though default route is not > >available. > > The I-flag is set only in the prefix discovery phase. The > route refresh related messages (RREQ, RREP) are sent with > I-flag set to zero as can be seen in > figure 6 > of the draft. > Then, how can you update default route entry? Normal RREP is not sufficient. > >How about the other case where the new path for AR is broken before > >RREQ message is issued? In this case, the node should broadcast RREQ > >though it does have valid route entry for the default > router which can > >be used as one for the AR. I think that this is inefficient behavior > >which should be avoided since we can not guarantee that this is only > >rare case which is negligible under reactive routing protocols. > > If the new path is broken (next-hop2) and the old one is not > broken (next-hop1) then the old next-hop is used as described > in the draft. Am I missing > something > here? > At this time, I want to ask another question related to this issue. In your draft, forwarding algorithm in intermediate nodes is not defined. In other words, how should intermediate nodes deal with received packets? To do right thing, intermediate nodes should know that a received packet was sent using host route entry or default route entry by sender. Then, periodic RREQ message should be broadcast if new path is broken and route entry for the gw is invalid, although old path(=default route) is still valid. Because default route should be only used to the communication with a node regarded as an Internet node. Could you explain? > > > >Right. However, the use of routing header has several valuable > >advantages including maximized address stability and use of optimal > >route. In addition, it works well with multiple gateways > since routing > >header leads packets to the right gateway. As many drafts including > >yours point out, implementation of this requires kernel > patch as MIPL > >of HUT does for type 2 routing header. > > > >I think that alternative designs should avoid the use of > routing header > >while keeping all advantages mentioned above and requires additional > >processing overhead as least as possible. > > > > Could you point out what "maximized address stability" means? > How does the use of routing header enable optimal routing > compared to next-hop routing? > > What I mean by "address stability" is how long an address can be used? I refered to Christophe(an author of gateway autoconf draft)'s notation. IMO, your idea has same effect with routing header since a configured address can be used as long as the gw is reachable. Actually optimal is wrong word. "Route consistency with routing protocol" is more accurate. As I mentioned before, with the use of routing header, intermediate nodes do not have to maintain default route which may cause "route inconsistency with routing protocol". > >I am sorry. I misunderstood that an IPv6/MIPv6-node is > equipped with a > >MANET routing protocol. Anyway, do you consider this case which I > >intend to point? > > If an IPv6-node is equipped with MANET-routing protocol, it > may use its configured global address or site-local address > for communication with the other MANET-nodes. > > If a MIPv6-node is enhanced with a MANET-routing protocol, > then either the home address or COA is used as a > MANET-address for communication depending on whether or not > the node is at home. > > There shouldn't be a problem? > At recent discussions(between C.Perkins and Manish) related to Internet connectivity, I agree C.Perkins. We should consider that Internet connectivity be added on the original(basic) assumption and functionality of manet routing protocols. In other words, a node who is equipped with Internet connectivity and wants to communicate with Internet nodes should do route discovery for any global dest address. Because a node can configure a static global address which can be diffent with prefixes advertised by GWs. In this sense, it is desirable that a manet node communicates directly with a IPv6/MIPv6 node which is inside the manet. > > > >Right. In case of UDP, the transition (1->4) occurs when ttl > used for > >route discovery is above threshold. To reduce unnecessary > RREQs during > >state 1, cache or route information of local host or other > nodes can be > >helful. In further, user or application's input(hint) via extened > >socket option can be helpful for determination of whether a > destination > >is inside the MANET or not. > > Do you mean TTL in the RREQ originally sent by the source and > forwarded by the intermediate nodes? And then some > intermediate node notices that the TTL is > bigger than threshold > and sends a RREP to the source? > Nope. I think that parameter NETWORK_DIAMETER in sender is sufficient for threshold value. (The failure of route discovery) I do not want to add any overhead. > I guess application layer hints could be used, but cannot be > relied on, and > because of > it there should exist a solution for destination determination at the > network layer. > > Pekka > Right. Applicability is restricted to MANET specific applications. Distributed cache infos(route entry in stage 4) can be used to reply with RREP-int_node messages to RREQs. More room to be thought. HyunWook _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 7 00:40:25 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA23435 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 00:40:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ae6Q8-00059F-2p for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 00:39:59 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i075duaU019783 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 00:39:56 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ae6Q7-000590-UL for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 00:39:55 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA23418 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 00:39:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae6Q5-0000IN-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 00:39:53 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae6OO-0000FB-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 00:38:08 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae6NU-0000AC-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 00:37:12 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ae6NJ-0004Zk-Gx; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 00:37:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ae6Md-0004YO-J5 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 00:36:19 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA23226 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 00:36:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae6Ma-00007q-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 00:36:17 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae6Kx-0007nL-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 00:34:35 -0500 Received: from [61.187.56.10] (helo=ksg.nudt.edu.cn) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae6J8-0007ZM-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 00:32:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ksg.nudt.edu.cn (CA-JinChen ISG) with SMTP id 3313AA8E6; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 13:30:59 +0800 (CST) X-KILLShieldGateway-Checked: Wed Jan 7 13:30:59 2004 Received: from gnufree (unknown [172.26.20.200]) by ksg.nudt.edu.cn (CA-JinChen ISG) with SMTP id E791BA563; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 13:30:58 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <027801c3d4df$e49680d0$c8141aac@gnufree> Reply-To: "jjinfo" From: "jjinfo" To: "Javesh Boodnah" Cc: References: <20040106175708.C5E401C0012D@colossus.systems.pipex.net> Subject: Re: [manet] about the routing security research in MANET and its future direction Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 13:34:13 +0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Hi, I am glad to hear that you are doing the same research. It will do better to us if we can exchange our idea and give each advice etc. Recently I am considering how to bypass the selfish nodes in open MANET, not using the "wathdog" mechanism because it has many shorcomings. waht's your opinion? Best Regards. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Javesh Boodnah" To: "'jjinfo'" Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 1:57 AM Subject: RE: [manet] about the routing security research in MANET and its future direction > I'm working on that too. Security aspects in ad hoc networks. Perhaps we > could merge our findings? > > Regards, > > Javesh > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 7 06:10:37 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA03051 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 06:10:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeBZj-0004mn-1A for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 06:10:11 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i07BABI7018393 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 06:10:11 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeBZi-0004ma-UO for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 06:10:10 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA02966 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 06:10:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeBZe-0001gU-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 06:10:07 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AeBXx-0001Zf-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 06:08:21 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeBVz-0001T6-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 06:06:19 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeBVi-00041B-HC; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 06:06:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeBVf-00040P-9b for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 06:05:59 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA02739 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 06:05:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeBVb-0001Of-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 06:05:55 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AeBTf-0001HQ-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 06:03:56 -0500 Received: from smtp6.clb.oleane.net ([213.56.31.26]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeBRj-000180-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 06:01:55 -0500 Received: from oleane ([194.206.151.59]) by smtp6.clb.oleane.net with SMTP id i07B1PO0028480 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 12:01:26 +0100 Message-ID: <026c01c3d50e$94bbcd20$0601a8c0@www.oleane.com> From: "Peter Lewis" To: Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 12:08:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0269_01C3D516.F6463960" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Subject: [manet] WiFi Voice Conference - Paris Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties. ------=_NextPart_000_0269_01C3D516.F6463960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The WiFi Voice Conference will stand in Paris next May 25 to 28, 2004. 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------=_NextPart_000_0269_01C3D516.F6463960-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Jan 8 03:56:56 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA13378 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 03:56:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeVxp-0002dO-Ty for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 03:56:28 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i088uPWf010125 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 03:56:25 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeVxp-0002dE-9x for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 03:56:25 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA13361 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 03:56:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeVxm-00032V-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 03:56:22 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AeVvs-0002xu-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 03:54:25 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeVuw-0002uD-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 03:53:26 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeVuY-0002IB-3g; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 03:53:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeVty-0002HL-GN for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 03:52:26 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA13267 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 03:52:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeVtv-0002sC-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 03:52:24 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AeVs8-0002nR-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 03:50:33 -0500 Received: from in02-fes2.whowhere.com ([209.202.220.219] helo=whowhere.com) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeVqY-0002hT-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 03:48:54 -0500 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by whowhere.com; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 08:48:09 -0000 To: manet@ietf.org Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 09:48:09 +0100 From: "wafa ber" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: oifa@eudoramail.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service X-Priority: 3 X-Sender-Ip: 193.95.33.18 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://www.mail.eudoramail.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [manet] some questions about 802.11e Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello; I working on 802.11e. I have some questions about how subscription of one station having QoS data to send is done nearby the QAP/HC. This is done during witch period:CAP or CFP or both. Thank you and have a nice day Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Jan 8 14:37:10 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA07418 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 14:37:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AefxS-0001Uy-3d for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 14:36:42 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i08JagtU005761 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 14:36:42 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AefxS-0001Uq-0M for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 14:36:42 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA07386 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 14:36:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AefxL-0001Nh-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 14:36:35 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AefvP-0001Hm-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 14:34:35 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aefu4-0001E2-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 14:33:12 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aeftt-00016v-SF; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 14:33:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeftW-00014t-Nl for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 14:32:38 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA07306 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 14:32:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeftQ-0001Ct-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 14:32:32 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Aefrd-00019J-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 14:30:41 -0500 Received: from nestor.nmsu.edu ([128.123.34.146] helo=mail.nmsu.edu) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AefrA-00015E-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 14:30:12 -0500 Received: from PCMullen2 (pc-mullen-2.NMSU.Edu [128.123.245.103]) by mail.nmsu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7312030; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 12:30:11 -0700 (MST) From: "John Mullen" To: "'Ioannis C. Avramopoulos'" , Subject: RE: [manet] MAC layer Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 12:30:11 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c3d61d$d5069580$67f57b80@IEngr.ad.nmsu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1fb247f1fb8180.1fb81801fb247f@Princeton.EDU> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=CELL_PHONE_BOOST autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Yannis, Probably the greatest problems are the fact that control in Ad-Hoc nets is distributed and information is very noisy. At any distance, signal strength can easily deviate 10 or 20 dB from its expected value (assuming we could determine even that) and delay can be of a significant duration. If we get too tricky, the situation can get out of hand. Another difficulty is that there has to be, at least, a common control and hailing channel. Otherwise, a node would have to monitor all hop sequences to be sure no one was trying to talk to it. Also, what if two nodes try to transmit to the same node using different hop sequences? One solution is to have a control/hailing channel and then assign sequences to different T/R pairs. However, managing this is a real bear, since no node is entirely sure where the other nodes are. With fixed antennas, such as in cellular, this is not so great a problem. Nodes simply communicate with the tower that yields the best link and the towers use prearranged sequence allocations to avoid excessive interference. In a MANET, however, there are no fixed nodes, it is unclear which links are best, and decision-making is distributed. Most of all, there is no fiber or wire to link the backbone. Everything is done through the MANET. Nevertheless, these things are investigated and the military/security/emergency response organizations are using them to some extent. However, in each of these applications, there is an organizational structure imposed on the MANET which makes channel assignment, etc. more practical. In a general MANET, in which nodes may not share any organizational ties, other than through the MANET itself, the problem is far greater. John Mullen -----Original Message----- From: manet-admin@ietf.org [mailto:manet-admin@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ioannis C. Avramopoulos Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:33 PM To: manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] MAC layer Dear fellows, I have a question on the MAC layer used in ad hoc networks. In 802.11 nodes share the medium, i.e. they use the same frequency hopping pattern or chip sequence. Had nodes used orthogonal hopping patterns, spectrum utilization would significantly increase and, furthermore, the impact of malicious nodes with respect to jamming would be severely mitigated. I am interested in the reasons that schemes of the latter type are not considered in the ad hoc community. I would appreciate it if you could point me to any papers discussing such issues. Kind regards, Yannis _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 9 01:25:20 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA01276 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 01:25:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aeq4h-0002xK-Hj for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:24:51 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i096OprA011361 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 01:24:51 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aeq4h-0002xA-Av for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:24:51 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA01264 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 01:24:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aeq4e-0007Ab-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:24:48 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Aeq2t-00075l-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:23:01 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aeq2C-000705-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:22:17 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aeq1x-0002ey-BS; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:22:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aeq1H-0002dx-VS for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:21:19 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA01106 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 01:21:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aeq1E-0006vy-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:21:16 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Aepzd-0006jX-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:19:38 -0500 Received: from law15-f8.law15.hotmail.com ([64.4.23.8] helo=hotmail.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aepy6-0006Wf-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 01:18:02 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 22:17:33 -0800 Received: from 203.129.220.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 06:17:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.129.220.117] X-Originating-Email: [karun8880@hotmail.com] X-Sender: karun8880@hotmail.com From: "Karun Verma" To: manet@ietf.org Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 11:47:33 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_f2e_219f_30ae" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2004 06:17:33.0303 (UTC) FILETIME=[44ABB870:01C3D678] Subject: [manet] Regarding Simulatiuon of AODV and TORA Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_f2e_219f_30ae Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed When i want to simulate protocols aodv and tora using the script wireless1.tcl in ~ns/tc/ex directory i get thye following errors invalid command name "tora-create-mobile-node" while executing "tora-create-mobile-node $i" invoked from within "if { [string compare $opt(rp) "dsr"] == 0} { for {set i 0} {$i < $opt(nn) } {incr i} { dsr-create-mobile-node $i } } elseif { [string compare $opt..." (file "wireless_tora.tcl" line 209) i have modified the script. What else modifications i have to do for both these protocols. Help me. with this mail i am attaching the script "wireless_tora.tcl" thanx in advance ############################################ # Karun Verma # ########################################### _________________________________________________________________ Games, MMS cards, ringtones. Operator logos, picture messages & more. http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/mobilesms/ Jazz up your mobile! ------=_NextPart_000_f2e_219f_30ae Content-Type: text/plain; name="wireless_tora.tcl"; format=flowed Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="wireless_tora.tcl" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit # ====================================================================== # Default Script Options # ====================================================================== set opt(chan) Channel/WirelessChannel set opt(prop) Propagation/TwoRayGround #set opt(netif) NetIf/SharedMedia set opt(netif) Phy/WirelessPhy #set opt(mac) Mac/802_11 set opt(mac) Mac/802_11 #set opt(ifq) Queue/DropTail/PriQueue ;# for dsdv set opt(ifq) CMUPriQueue ;# for dsr set opt(ll) LL set opt(ant) Antenna/OmniAntenna set opt(x) 1000 ;#X dimension of the topography set opt(y) 1000 ;# Y dimension of the topography set opt(cp) "cbr50_1000x1000" set opt(sc) "scene50_1000x1000" set opt(ifqlen) 50 ;# max packet in ifq set opt(nn) 50 ;# number of nodes set opt(seed) 0.0 set opt(stop) 300.0 ;# simulation time set opt(tr) wireless_tora.tr ;# trace file set opt(rp) tora ;# routing protocol script set opt(lm) "off" ;# log movement # ====================================================================== set AgentTrace ON set RouterTrace ON set MacTrace OFF LL set mindelay_ 50us LL set delay_ 25us LL set bandwidth_ 0 ;# not used Agent/Null set sport_ 0 Agent/Null set dport_ 0 Agent/CBR set sport_ 0 Agent/CBR set dport_ 0 Agent/TCPSink set sport_ 0 Agent/TCPSink set dport_ 0 Agent/TCP set sport_ 0 Agent/TCP set dport_ 0 Agent/TCP set packetSize_ 1460 Queue/DropTail/PriQueue set Prefer_Routing_Protocols 1 # unity gain, omni-directional antennas # set up the antennas to be centered in the node and 1.5 meters above it Antenna/OmniAntenna set X_ 0 Antenna/OmniAntenna set Y_ 0 Antenna/OmniAntenna set Z_ 1.5 Antenna/OmniAntenna set Gt_ 1.0 Antenna/OmniAntenna set Gr_ 1.0 # Initialize the SharedMedia interface with parameters to make # it work like the 914MHz Lucent WaveLAN DSSS radio interface Phy/WirelessPhy set CPThresh_ 10.0 Phy/WirelessPhy set CSThresh_ 1.559e-11 Phy/WirelessPhy set RXThresh_ 3.652e-10 Phy/WirelessPhy set Rb_ 2*1e6 Phy/WirelessPhy set Pt_ 0.2818 Phy/WirelessPhy set freq_ 914e+6 Phy/WirelessPhy set L_ 1.0 # ====================================================================== proc usage { argv0 } { puts "Usage: $argv0" puts "\tmandatory arguments:" puts "\t\t\[-x MAXX\] \[-y MAXY\]" puts "\toptional arguments:" puts "\t\t\[-cp conn pattern\] \[-sc scenario\] \[-nn nodes\]" puts "\t\t\[-seed seed\] \[-stop sec\] \[-tr tracefile\]\n" } proc getopt {argc argv} { global opt lappend optlist cp nn seed sc stop tr x y for {set i 0} {$i < $argc} {incr i} { set arg [lindex $argv $i] if {[string range $arg 0 0] != "-"} continue set name [string range $arg 1 end] set opt($name) [lindex $argv [expr $i+1]] } } #proc cmu-trace { ttype atype node } { # global ns_ tracefd # # puts ABC # if { $tracefd == "" } { # return "" # } # puts BCD # set T [new CMUTrace/$ttype $atype] # $T target [$ns_ set nullAgent_] # $T attach $tracefd # $T set src_ [$node id] # # $T node $node # # return $T #} proc log-movement {} { global logtimer ns_ ns set ns $ns_ source ../mobility/timer.tcl Class LogTimer -superclass Timer LogTimer instproc timeout {} { global opt node_; for {set i 0} {$i < $opt(nn)} {incr i} { $node_($i) log-movement } $self sched 0.1 } set logtimer [new LogTimer] $logtimer sched 0.1 } # ====================================================================== # Main Program # ====================================================================== getopt $argc $argv # # Source External TCL Scripts # #source ../lib/ns-mobilenode.tcl #if { $opt(rp) != "" } { #source ../mobility/$opt(rp).tcl #} elseif { [catch { set env(NS_PROTO_SCRIPT) } ] == 1 } { #puts "\nenvironment variable NS_PROTO_SCRIPT not set!\n" #exit #} else { #puts "\n*** using script $env(NS_PROTO_SCRIPT)\n\n"; #source $env(NS_PROTO_SCRIPT) #} #source ../lib/ns-cmutrace.tcl source /root/netsim/ns-2.26/tcl/lib/ns-bsnode.tcl source /root/netsim/ns-2.26/tcl/mobility/com.tcl # do the get opt again incase the routing protocol file added some more # options to look for getopt $argc $argv if { $opt(x) == 0 || $opt(y) == 0 } { usage $argv0 exit 1 } if {$opt(seed) > 0} { puts "Seeding Random number generator with $opt(seed)\n" ns-random $opt(seed) } # # Initialize Global Variables # set ns_ [new Simulator] set chan [new $opt(chan)] set prop [new $opt(prop)] set topo [new Topography] set tracefd [open $opt(tr) w] set namtrace [open wireless_tora.nam w] $ns_ namtrace-all-wireless $namtrace $opt(x) $opt(y) $topo load_flatgrid $opt(x) $opt(y) $prop topography $topo # # Create God # set god_ [create-god $opt(nn)] # # log the mobile nodes movements if desired # if { $opt(lm) == "on" } { log-movement } # # Create the specified number of nodes $opt(nn) and "attach" them # the channel. # Each routing protocol script is expected to have defined a proc # create-mobile-node that builds a mobile node and inserts it into the # array global $node_($i) # if { [string compare $opt(rp) "dsr"] == 0} { for {set i 0} {$i < $opt(nn) } {incr i} { dsr-create-mobile-node $i } } elseif { [string compare $opt(rp) "dsdv"] == 0} { for {set i 0} {$i < $opt(nn) } {incr i} { dsdv-create-mobile-node $i } } elseif { [string compare $opt(rp) "aodv"] == 0} { for {set i 0} {$i < $opt(nn) } {incr i} { aodv-create-mobile-node $i } } elseif { [string compare $opt(rp) "tora"] == 0} { for {set i 0} {$i < $opt(nn) } {incr i} { tora-create-mobile-node $i } } # # Source the Connection and Movement scripts # if { $opt(cp) == "" } { puts "*** NOTE: no connection pattern specified." set opt(cp) "none" } else { puts "Loading connection pattern..." source $opt(cp) } # # Tell all the nodes when the simulation ends # for {set i 0} {$i < $opt(nn) } {incr i} { $ns_ at $opt(stop).000000001 "$node_($i) reset"; } $ns_ at $opt(stop).00000001 "puts \"NS EXITING...\" ; $ns_ halt" if { $opt(sc) == "" } { puts "*** NOTE: no scenario file specified." set opt(sc) "none" } else { puts "Loading scenario file..." source $opt(sc) puts "Load complete..." } #define node initial pattern in nam for { set i 0} {$i <$opt(nn)} {incr i} { $ns_ initial_node_pos $node_($i) 50 } puts $tracefd "M 0.0 nn $opt(nn) x $opt(x) y $opt(y) rp $opt(rp)" puts $tracefd "M 0.0 sc $opt(sc) cp $opt(cp) seed $opt(seed)" puts $tracefd "M 0.0 prop $opt(prop) ant $opt(ant)" puts "Starting Simulation..." $ns_ run ------=_NextPart_000_f2e_219f_30ae-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 9 02:25:24 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA15913 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 02:25:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aer0l-0006vF-Qn for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:24:52 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i097OpWR026570 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 02:24:51 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aer0h-0006uI-TA for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:24:47 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA15868 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 02:24:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aer0e-0002J6-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:24:44 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Aeqym-0002E6-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:22:48 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeqxT-0002A4-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:21:27 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aeqx9-0006Yc-Rk; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:21:07 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aeqws-0006XK-Hf for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:20:50 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA15757 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 02:20:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aeqwo-00029L-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:20:46 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Aeqv0-00025Y-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:18:55 -0500 Received: from cms4.etri.re.kr ([129.254.16.14] helo=cms4.cms.etri.re.kr) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeqtM-0001xG-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:17:12 -0500 Received: from jafywinxp (pd412h.etri.re.kr [129.254.112.174]) by cms4.cms.etri.re.kr with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id CK0BFR3K; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:19:11 +0900 Reply-To: From: "HyunWook Cha" To: "'Karun Verma'" , Subject: RE: [manet] Regarding Simulatiuon of AODV and TORA Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:16:35 +0900 Message-ID: <000201c3d680$84452db0$ae70fe81@jafywinxp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As for tora and aodv, you can refer test-suite-wirless-lan-aodv(or tora).tcl. (Both files seems to be almost same.) NS-2 provides a common framework to generate(instantiate) mobile nodes irrespective ad hoc routing protocols. What to do is as follows. set ns_ [new Simulator] set god_ [create-god $opt(nn) ] // opt(nn) = number of nodes $ns_ node-config -adhocRouting AODV [or DSR or TORA or DSDV] .... ; refer the example file. for {set i 0} {$i < $opt(nn) } {incr i} { set node_($i) [$ns_ node] ... } For more details, you can refer the ns-2 manual. HyunWook Cha > -----Original Message----- > From: manet-admin@ietf.org [mailto:manet-admin@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Karun Verma > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:18 PM > To: manet@ietf.org > Subject: [manet] Regarding Simulatiuon of AODV and TORA > > > When i want to simulate protocols aodv and tora using the script > wireless1.tcl in ~ns/tc/ex directory > i get thye following errors > > invalid command name "tora-create-mobile-node" > while executing > "tora-create-mobile-node $i" > invoked from within > "if { [string compare $opt(rp) "dsr"] == 0} { > for {set i 0} {$i < $opt(nn) } {incr i} { > dsr-create-mobile-node $i > } > } elseif { [string compare $opt..." > (file "wireless_tora.tcl" line 209) > > i have modified the script. > What else modifications i have to do for both these > protocols. Help me. with this mail i am attaching the script > "wireless_tora.tcl" > > thanx in advance > > ############################################ > > # Karun Verma > > # > > ########################################### > > _________________________________________________________________ > Games, MMS cards, ringtones. Operator logos, picture messages & more. > http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/mobilesms/ Jazz up your mobile! > > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 9 02:49:19 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA16595 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 02:49:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AerO0-00006S-4k for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:48:52 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i097mqvW000392 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 02:48:52 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AerNx-00006F-VO for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:48:49 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA16561 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 02:48:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AerNu-0003QC-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:48:46 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AerM2-0003LM-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:46:51 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AerKb-0003Gw-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:45:22 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AerKJ-0008B5-Fw; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:45:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AerK2-0008A8-Md for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:44:46 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA16488 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 02:44:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AerJy-0003Dk-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:44:43 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AerI8-00039X-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:42:49 -0500 Received: from india-ironport-1.cisco.com ([64.104.129.195]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AerGG-00031p-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 02:40:52 -0500 Received: from cisco.com (64.104.129.221) by india-ironport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Jan 2004 13:23:57 +0530 Received: from ind-mira-01.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@ind-mira-01.cisco.com [64.104.129.12]) by india-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i097eIWK021900; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:40:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from poornaw2k01 (dhcp-64-104-134-201.cisco.com [64.104.134.201]) by ind-mira-01.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.6-GR) with ESMTP id AAL01814; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:11:27 +0530 (IST) From: "Poornananda G R" To: , "'Karun Verma'" , Subject: RE: [manet] Regarding Simulatiuon of AODV and TORA Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:10:20 +0530 Message-ID: <003e01c3d683$d525ccf0$c9866840@apac.cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <000201c3d680$84452db0$ae70fe81@jafywinxp> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have another related question- can we simulate one or more of these routing protocols simultaneously? For example, can we simulate a set of 100 nodes and say 50 of them running aodv, 25 running dsr and the rest running tora? Thanks, -Poorna % -----Original Message----- % From: manet-admin@ietf.org [mailto:manet-admin@ietf.org] On % Behalf Of HyunWook Cha % Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 12:47 PM % To: 'Karun Verma'; manet@ietf.org % Subject: RE: [manet] Regarding Simulatiuon of AODV and TORA % % % % As for tora and aodv, you can refer % test-suite-wirless-lan-aodv(or tora).tcl. (Both files seems % to be almost same.) NS-2 provides a common framework to % generate(instantiate) mobile nodes irrespective ad hoc % routing protocols. What to do is as follows. % % set ns_ [new Simulator] % set god_ [create-god $opt(nn) ] // opt(nn) = number of nodes % $ns_ node-config -adhocRouting AODV [or DSR or TORA or DSDV] .... ; % refer the example file. % for {set i 0} {$i < $opt(nn) } {incr i} { % set node_($i) [$ns_ node] % ... % } % % For more details, you can refer the ns-2 manual. % % HyunWook Cha % % > -----Original Message----- % > From: manet-admin@ietf.org [mailto:manet-admin@ietf.org] On % > Behalf Of Karun Verma % > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:18 PM % > To: manet@ietf.org % > Subject: [manet] Regarding Simulatiuon of AODV and TORA % > % > % > When i want to simulate protocols aodv and tora using the script % > wireless1.tcl in ~ns/tc/ex directory % > i get thye following errors % > % > invalid command name "tora-create-mobile-node" % > while executing % > "tora-create-mobile-node $i" % > invoked from within % > "if { [string compare $opt(rp) "dsr"] == 0} { % > for {set i 0} {$i < $opt(nn) } {incr i} { % > dsr-create-mobile-node $i % > } % > } elseif { [string compare $opt..." % > (file "wireless_tora.tcl" line 209) % > % > i have modified the script. % > What else modifications i have to do for both these % > protocols. Help me. with this mail i am attaching the script % > "wireless_tora.tcl" % > % > thanx in advance % > % > ############################################ % > % > # Karun Verma % > % > # % > % > ########################################### % > % > _________________________________________________________________ % > Games, MMS cards, ringtones. Operator logos, picture % messages & more. % > http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/mobilesms/ Jazz up your mobile! % > % > % % % _______________________________________________ % manet mailing list % manet@ietf.org % https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet % _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 9 09:06:00 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA00974 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:06:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AexGW-0007YI-19 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:05:32 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i09E5WKH029029 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:05:32 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AexGV-0007Y8-Tn for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:05:31 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA00958 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:05:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AexGP-0002vS-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:05:25 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AexAd-0002ce-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:59:28 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aex4s-0002PT-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:53:30 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aex4Q-0006yW-1k; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:53:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aex3U-0006ws-Rx for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:52:04 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA00670 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aex3T-0002JM-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:52:03 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Aex1j-0001uE-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:50:16 -0500 Received: from india-ironport-1.cisco.com ([64.104.129.195]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AewyD-000143-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:46:37 -0500 Received: from cisco.com (64.104.129.221) by india-ironport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Jan 2004 19:29:43 +0530 Received: from ind-mira-01.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@ind-mira-01.cisco.com [64.104.129.12]) by india-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i09DjxWK017704 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 05:46:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from poornaw2k01 (dhcp-64-104-134-201.cisco.com [64.104.134.201]) by ind-mira-01.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.6-GR) with ESMTP id AAL11195; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:17:09 +0530 (IST) From: "Poornananda G R" To: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:16:02 +0530 Message-ID: <000001c3d6b6$ebcb0a50$c9866840@apac.cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3D6E5.0584CCF0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Subject: [manet] Finding boundary of an adhoc network Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3D6E5.0584CCF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, Can you please point me to existing methods/papers used to determine the boundary of an adhoc network? 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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3D6E5.0584CCF0-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 9 09:57:11 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA02499 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aey3z-0001Co-FP for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:56:43 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i09EudhQ004634 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:56:39 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aey3z-0001Cf-9m for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:56:39 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA02493 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:56:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aey3s-0005rO-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:56:32 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Aey0R-0005lL-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:53:01 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aexyq-0005h1-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:51:20 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AexyZ-0000m6-KA; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:51:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AexyT-0000lU-8g for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:50:57 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA02411 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:50:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AexyR-0005fE-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:50:55 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AexwZ-0005cA-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:49:00 -0500 Received: from melanieb.vtt.fi ([130.188.1.12]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aexw3-0005YO-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:48:28 -0500 Received: from elemail.ele.vtt.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by melanieb.vtt.fi (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i09EkYKi011415; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:46:35 +0200 (EET) Received: from oulkv10326.vtt.fi (ele4114.ele.vtt.fi [130.188.94.114]) by elemail.ele.vtt.fi (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA29223; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:47:42 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20040109160828.00c42b30@elemail.ele.vtt.fi> X-Sender: eleppa@elemail.ele.vtt.fi X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:47:41 +0200 To: , From: Pekka =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pääkkönen?= Cc: "'autonet'" In-Reply-To: <000f01c3d4bb$16360e00$ae70fe81@jafywinxp> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20040106145855.00c37c10@elemail.ele.vtt.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [manet] RE: Comments on the draft-paakkonen-addressing-htr-manet-00.txt Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 At 10:10 7.1.2004 +0900, HyunWook Cha wrote: >Hello, Pekka. > >Please see my comments below. > > > > >I see. In your draft, same type of RREP which is with I-flag set is > > >used for two phases(prefix discovery, route refresh). So, in above > > >scenario, this issue can be resolved by sending unicast RREQ > > becauase > > >the route entry for AR is still valid though default route is not > > >available. > > > > The I-flag is set only in the prefix discovery phase. The > > route refresh related messages (RREQ, RREP) are sent with > > I-flag set to zero as can be seen in > > figure 6 > > of the draft. > > > >Then, how can you update default route entry? Normal RREP is not >sufficient. Thanks for the correction. There is an error in the draft. The I-flag is set in both phases. The bad side with this solution is route inconsistency, right? > > >How about the other case where the new path for AR is broken before > > >RREQ message is issued? In this case, the node should broadcast RREQ > > >though it does have valid route entry for the default > > router which can > > >be used as one for the AR. I think that this is inefficient behavior > > >which should be avoided since we can not guarantee that this is only > > >rare case which is negligible under reactive routing protocols. > > > > If the new path is broken (next-hop2) and the old one is not > > broken (next-hop1) then the old next-hop is used as described > > in the draft. Am I missing > > something > > here? > > > >At this time, I want to ask another question related to this issue. In >your draft, forwarding algorithm in intermediate nodes is not defined. >In other words, how should intermediate nodes deal with received >packets? To do right thing, intermediate nodes should know that a >received packet was sent using host route entry or default route entry >by sender. > >Then, periodic RREQ message should be broadcast if new path is broken >and route entry for the gw is invalid, although old path(=default route) >is still valid. Because default route should be only used to the >communication with a node regarded as an Internet node. > >Could you explain? > The intermediate nodes forward packets based on the routing table entries: If the destination is already in the routing table, it is sent based on the entry. If no routing table entry for the destination exists, then If the destination's IPv6 prefix is the MANET's IPv6 prefix, route discovery is used. else the packet is sent normally i.e. the default route is used. How could an intermediate node determine if the previous node forwarded the packet using the default route entry or the host entry? > > > > > >Right. However, the use of routing header has several valuable > > >advantages including maximized address stability and use of optimal > > >route. In addition, it works well with multiple gateways > > since routing > > >header leads packets to the right gateway. As many drafts including > > >yours point out, implementation of this requires kernel > > patch as MIPL > > >of HUT does for type 2 routing header. > > > > > >I think that alternative designs should avoid the use of > > routing header > > >while keeping all advantages mentioned above and requires additional > > >processing overhead as least as possible. > > > > > > > Could you point out what "maximized address stability" means? > > How does the use of routing header enable optimal routing > > compared to next-hop routing? > > > > > >What I mean by "address stability" is how long an address can be used? I >refered to Christophe(an author of gateway autoconf draft)'s notation. >IMO, your idea has same effect with routing header since a configured >address can be used as long as the gw is reachable. I agree. Don't both approaches require the refreshing of the gw-info, which is used to update the lifetime of the IPv6 address(es)? >Actually optimal is wrong word. "Route consistency with routing >protocol" is more accurate. As I mentioned before, with the use of >routing header, intermediate nodes do not have to maintain default route >which may cause "route inconsistency with routing protocol". Got it. > > > > > >I am sorry. I misunderstood that an IPv6/MIPv6-node is > > equipped with a > > >MANET routing protocol. Anyway, do you consider this case which I > > >intend to point? > > > > If an IPv6-node is equipped with MANET-routing protocol, it > > may use its configured global address or site-local address > > for communication with the other MANET-nodes. > > > > If a MIPv6-node is enhanced with a MANET-routing protocol, > > then either the home address or COA is used as a > > MANET-address for communication depending on whether or not > > the node is at home. > > > > There shouldn't be a problem? > > > >At recent discussions(between C.Perkins and Manish) related to Internet >connectivity, I agree C.Perkins. We should consider that Internet >connectivity be added on the original(basic) assumption and >functionality of manet routing protocols. In other words, a node who is >equipped with Internet connectivity and wants to communicate with >Internet nodes should do route discovery for any global dest address. >Because a node can configure a static global address which can be >diffent with prefixes advertised by GWs. In this sense, it is desirable >that a manet node communicates directly with a IPv6/MIPv6 node which is >inside the manet. > OK, I see your point. Some node inside the MANET might have configured an IPv6 address from a different IPv6 prefix than the what is advertised in the gw-info, and also uses the MANET-routing protocol. And route discovery should be used in such situations. But if the node doesn't have MANET-capabilities (dest), and the other node does (source), then the dest could not answer to the initial RREQs sent by the source. Because of this the packets in the draft were routed via the AR between the peers. If the peers would be in the same link, then direct communication could be established by using the link-local addresses? > > > > > >Right. In case of UDP, the transition (1->4) occurs when ttl > > used for > > >route discovery is above threshold. To reduce unnecessary > > RREQs during > > >state 1, cache or route information of local host or other > > nodes can be > > >helful. In further, user or application's input(hint) via extened > > >socket option can be helpful for determination of whether a > > destination > > >is inside the MANET or not. > > > > Do you mean TTL in the RREQ originally sent by the source and > > forwarded by the intermediate nodes? And then some > > intermediate node notices that the TTL is > > bigger than threshold > > and sends a RREP to the source? > > > >Nope. I think that parameter NETWORK_DIAMETER in sender is sufficient >for threshold value. (The failure of route discovery) I do not want to >add any overhead. OK. > > I guess application layer hints could be used, but cannot be > > relied on, and > > because of > > it there should exist a solution for destination determination at the > > network layer. > > > > Pekka > > > >Right. Applicability is restricted to MANET specific applications. >Distributed cache infos(route entry in stage 4) can be used to reply >with RREP-int_node messages to RREQs. More room to be thought. > >HyunWook _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 9 10:37:30 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA06197 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:37:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aeyh4-0003DD-Sn for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:37:02 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i09Fb2Rv012333 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:37:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aeyh4-0003Cq-F7 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:37:02 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA06010 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:36:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aeyh1-0000YQ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:36:59 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AeyfH-0000IA-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:35:11 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeydP-000046-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:33:15 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeydC-0002Kz-In; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:33:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aeyce-0002J6-47 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:32:28 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA04732 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:32:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aeycb-0007fq-01 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:32:25 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AeyUv-0007J3-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:24:29 -0500 Received: from smtp5.clb.oleane.net ([213.56.31.25]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeyUJ-0007CX-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:23:51 -0500 Received: from oleane ([194.206.151.59]) by smtp5.clb.oleane.net with SMTP id i09FNKf3025293 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:23:20 +0100 Message-ID: <033a01c3d6c5$84125080$0601a8c0@www.oleane.com> From: "Peter Lewis" To: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:30:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0337_01C3D6CD.E5939500" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Subject: [manet] WiMAX Summit call for papers Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties. ------=_NextPart_000_0337_01C3D6CD.E5939500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The dead line of the WiMAX Summit call for papers has been extended to = January 30th.=20 =20 All details at: http://www.upperside.fr/wimax04/wimax04intro.htm The WiMAX Summit will be held in Paris next May 2004 25-28=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0337_01C3D6CD.E5939500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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[MWN 2004] 2004 International Workshop on Mobile and Wireless Networking
To be held in conjunction with the 33rd International Conference on Parallel Processing
August 15-18, 2004, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
All details at: http://cs.ua.edu/mwn

*** Important Dates
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--Boundary_(ID_m68TRDC8N/2vYCKouJ0J7Q)-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 9 19:20:36 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA01092 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:20:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Af6rF-0008Ek-Tz for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:20:08 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0A0K5Na031641 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:20:05 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Af6rE-0008EE-NU for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:20:04 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA01039 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Af6rD-00078l-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:20:03 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Af6pP-00071E-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:18:12 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Af6nX-0006uy-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:16:15 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Af6nL-0007ne-AF; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:16:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Af6nF-0007mQ-O0 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:15:57 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA00893 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:15:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Af6nE-0006s0-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:15:56 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Af6lP-0006nY-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:14:04 -0500 Received: from [192.228.147.13] (helo=gate2a.sunway.edu.my) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Af6jx-0006dx-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:12:33 -0500 Received: from nav.sunway.edu.my (nav.sunway.edu.my [172.16.0.8]) by gate2a.sunway.edu.my (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id i09NrFR9020707 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 07:53:15 +0800 Message-Id: <200401092353.i09NrFR9020707@gate2a.sunway.edu.my> Received: (from limvivi [172.16.5.21]) by nav.sunway.edu.my (SAVSMTP 3.1.2.35) with SMTP id M2004011008121211445 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:12:12 +0800 From: "vivi" To: Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:12:24 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Thread-Index: AcPXDmvOHV1GwDrKS0m3qadBm2V73Q== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [manet] Help with mobility prediction simulation in glomosim Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am not able to find the mobility prediction part in the ODMRP routing protocol provided in the Glomosim library. I intended to modify the codes before generating the simulation results for analysis in my thesis. All I find is "The mobility prediction using GPS is not included in this implementation." inside the odmrp.pc file inside the network folder. I was wondering if anyone could kindly provide me some guidance on how to simulate my modified mobility prediction methodology. I would be very grateful for some tips, thank you. 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Processed in 0.352854 secs); 10 Jan 2004 07:30:19 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail.iiita.ac.in) (sanjay?wc03@iiita.ac.in@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Jan 2004 07:30:19 -0000 Received: from 210.212.48.6 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user sanjay_wc03@iiita.ac.in) by mail.iiita.ac.in with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:00:19 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <41412.210.212.48.6.1073719819.squirrel@mail.iiita.ac.in> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:00:19 +0530 (IST) From: "sanjay prasad" To: manet@ietf.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1-2.qvcs.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [manet] query Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hai, I am doing masters program in wireless computing & communication. Now i am in 2nd sem and i have to submit termpaper DATA IN P2P MANETS. I want help regarding how to study information relating to it through rfcs or web. Please give me suggestions from where i have to collect information. thanking you _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Sat Jan 10 14:55:46 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA15347 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:55:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfPCZ-0006gX-VY for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:55:20 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0AJtJSN025691 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:55:19 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfPCZ-0006gI-Qb for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:55:19 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA15334 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:55:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfPCR-0002dp-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:55:12 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AfP5m-0002JG-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:48:19 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfP1L-00023a-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:43:43 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfP0f-0005zo-62; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:43:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfOzx-0005zC-Ri for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:42:17 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA15106 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:42:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfOzq-0001zH-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:42:10 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AfOue-0001mX-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:36:48 -0500 Received: from web21107.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.227.109]) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfOqU-0001Zq-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:32:31 -0500 Message-ID: <20040110193205.52011.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.119.86.30] by web21107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:32:05 PST Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:32:05 -0800 (PST) From: Vin To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [manet] CMU wireless extensions in ns? Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Hi.Could anyone here tell me if the CMU wireless extensions have been incorporated into ns fully? I want to use ad-hockey to generate some of my input files.or is there any other tool in ns, which can do the same thing? Thanks in advance, Vin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Sun Jan 11 03:00:57 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA19407 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:00:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfaWK-0007D0-Ux for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:00:29 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0B80Sgn027704 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:00:28 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfaWK-0007Cl-BX for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:00:28 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA19381 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:00:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfaWG-00032R-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:00:24 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AfaUR-0002zF-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 02:58:31 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfaTK-0002wc-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 02:57:22 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfaT6-0006qV-Fz; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 02:57:08 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfaSQ-0006nb-8s for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 02:56:26 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA19314 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 02:56:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfaSM-0002uY-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 02:56:22 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AfaQU-0002rx-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 02:54:26 -0500 Received: from patty.levels.unisa.edu.au ([130.220.36.156]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfaOc-0002om-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 02:52:30 -0500 Received: from server1 (server1 [172.17.0.2]) by patty.levels.unisa.edu.au (8.12.10/8.12.2) with SMTP id i0B7qNRW003081; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 18:22:23 +1030 (CST) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 18:22:23 +1030 (CST) From: Peter Pham To: Poornananda G R cc: "'Peter Pham'" , manet@ietf.org Subject: RE: [manet] Finding boundary of an adhoc network In-Reply-To: <000701c3d812$2c08c8d0$c9866840@apac.cisco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Hi I believe there has been no work work on this (I might be wrong). It is because the intractability of the mathematical model. You must need quite a bit of assumptions. By then, the question is whether the analytical model yields any practical value ? To start with, you can assume that the routing boundary is of certain shape (dish-like shape ?). You must assume a certain node density, node distribution (possion or uniform). Then you must assume on a network model. You also assume on mobility model (most assume stationary). Using these assumptions, it is possible to produce some mathematical results. Best Regards. Peter Pham On Sun, 11 Jan 2004, Poornananda G R wrote: > Hi, > I should have been more clear in asking this question. > Given a node in a routing domain, are there methods to approximate the > number of hops/distance/time to the nearest boundary of the routing > domain, assuming that there are nodes outside which don't come under the > said routing domain? I have attached a jpeg which illustrates what I > have in mind. > Thanks, > -Poorna > PS: Ccing back to manet > % -----Original Message----- > % From: Peter Pham [mailto:ppham@spri.levels.unisa.edu.au] > % Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:55 AM > % To: Poornananda G R > % Subject: Re: [manet] Finding boundary of an adhoc network > % > % > % Hi, > % what do you mean by boundary ? do you mean the x and y > % coordinates of an > % rectangular topology ? > % > % > % Best Regards. > % > % Peter Phuc Pham > % ========================================== > % > % The University of South Australia > % Institute for Telecommunications Research > % Mawson Lakes Campus SA5095 > % Office: 08-83025188 > % Fax : 08-83023873 > % Email : ppham@spri.levels.unisa.edu.au > % WWW : http://www.itr.unisa.edu.au/~ppham > % ========================================== > % > % > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Sun Jan 11 03:55:28 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA20368 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:55:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfbN4-00025w-Qo for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:54:59 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0B8sw0v008050 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:54:58 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfbN4-00025k-Bt for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:54:58 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA20323 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:54:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfbN1-0005V5-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:54:55 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AfbL2-0005MH-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:52:53 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfbJP-0005EY-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:51:11 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfbJI-0001XY-4P; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:51:04 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfbIq-0001WO-7b for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:50:36 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA20217 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:50:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfbIn-0005Ba-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:50:33 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AfbH7-00056k-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:48:49 -0500 Received: from [203.199.83.147] (helo=rediffmail.com) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfbFx-000513-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:47:37 -0500 Received: (qmail 1995 invoked by uid 510); 11 Jan 2004 08:46:37 -0000 Date: 11 Jan 2004 08:46:37 -0000 Message-ID: <20040111084637.1994.qmail@webmail25.rediffmail.com> Received: from unknown (203.200.145.160) by rediffmail.com via HTTP; 11 jan 2004 08:46:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "darwin jb clement" Reply-To: "darwin jb clement" To: manet@ietf.org Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Next_1073810797---0-203.199.83.147-1992" Subject: [manet] help regarding node range Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_20_30, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08,HTML_MESSAGE,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multipart mime message --Next_1073810797---0-203.199.83.147-1992 Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

=0Ahi :
=0Ai'm a glomosim windows platform user.
=0Ai just need to= vary the transmission range of each node individually to various values,=0Acould anyone find me a solution in this regard.
=0Ain much expectat= ion for your valuable suggestions.
=0Athank you:darwin j.b. clement=0A=0A

=0A=0A --Next_1073810797---0-203.199.83.147-1992 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi :=0Ai'm a glomosim windows platform user.=0Ai just need to vary the tran= smission range of each node individually to various values,=0Acould anyone = find me a solution in this regard.=0Ain much expectation for your valuable = suggestions.=0Athank you:darwin j.b. clement --Next_1073810797---0-203.199.83.147-1992-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Sun Jan 11 07:45:41 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA25776 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:45:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Afexr-0006EK-Ma for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:45:12 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0BCjBeR023942 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:45:11 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Afexr-0006E5-JE for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:45:11 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA25766 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:45:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Afexl-0001Oh-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:45:05 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Afeqd-0000Z4-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:37:43 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Afelb-0000Ls-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:32:31 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Afel8-0005PB-6c; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:32:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfekR-0005O7-1T for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:31:19 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA25555 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:31:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfekH-0000I1-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:31:09 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Afehf-0000FG-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:28:27 -0500 Received: from evaki.its.uow.edu.au ([130.130.68.32]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Afefi-0000CI-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:26:26 -0500 Received: from evaki (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by evaki.its.uow.edu.au (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0BCPxZR025396 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 23:25:59 +1100 (EST) Received: from inti.its.uow.edu.au ([130.130.37.4]) by evaki.its.uow.edu.au (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 23:25:59 +1100 (EST) Received: (from sendmail@localhost) by inti.its.uow.edu.au (8.12.9/8.12.9) id i0BCPxo7006684 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 23:25:59 +1100 (EST) Received: from hades.snrc.uow.edu.au (hades.snrc.uow.edu.au[130.130.10.100]) by inti.its.uow.edu.au (UWSMTPD 1.6) with ESMTP id 82130.6677; Sunday, 11 January 2004 23:25:54 +1100 Received: from hades (IDENT:0@hades.snrc.uow.edu.au [130.130.10.100]) by hades.snrc.uow.edu.au (8.12.10/8.12.4) with ESMTP id i0BCPTEB015688 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 23:25:30 +1100 Received: from ppp52-as53.uow.net.au ([130.130.192.52]) by hades.snrc.uow.edu.au (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 23:25:28 +1100 (EST) From: Justin Lipman Reply-To: justin@titr.uow.edu.au Organization: CRC-SIT To: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] help regarding node range Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 23:25:46 +1100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20040111084637.1994.qmail@webmail25.rediffmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20040111084637.1994.qmail@webmail25.rediffmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401112325.46939.justin@titr.uow.edu.au> X-MessageID: 82130.6677 X-EnvelopeFrom: 82130.6677 X-EnvelopeTo: 82130.6677 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there, I dont have GlomoSim infront of me at the moment, but from memory one possible way of doing this is: Find the initialisation code for the radio layer in Glomosim that reads the "config.in" file. I think this is in "radio.pc". Do a search for RADIO-TX-POWER. Rather than use the value stored in "config.in" you may change the power accordingly for each node. Hope this helps. Justin -- Research Associate Smart Internet Technology Cooperative Research Centre http://www.titr.uow.edu.au/~justin On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:46 pm, darwin jb clement wrote: > hi : > i'm a glomosim windows platform user. > i just need to vary the transmission range of each node individually to > various values, could anyone find me a solution in this regard. > in much expectation for your valuable suggestions. > thank you:darwin j.b. clement _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Sun Jan 11 21:57:43 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA27244 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfsGQ-00057e-6m for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:57:15 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0C2vENn019687 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:57:14 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfsGQ-00057R-01 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:57:14 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA27240 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfsGN-0002W6-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:57:11 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AfsER-0002Pt-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:55:12 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfsDX-0002Kd-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:54:15 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfsDK-0004lJ-1V; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:54:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfsCW-0004kd-Aw for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:53:17 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA27114 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:53:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfsCT-0002IT-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:53:09 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AfsBO-0002Bm-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:52:03 -0500 Received: from cms4.etri.re.kr ([129.254.16.14] helo=cms4.cms.etri.re.kr) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Afs8L-00021x-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:48:53 -0500 Received: from jafywinxp (pd412h.etri.re.kr [129.254.112.174]) by cms4.cms.etri.re.kr with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id CK0BF832; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:50:20 +0900 Reply-To: From: "HyunWook Cha" To: "=?iso-2022-jp?B?J1Bla2thIFAbJEJgQBsoQmtrP2VuJw==?=" , Cc: "'autonet'" Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:47:52 +0900 Message-ID: <001501c3d8b6$7974a180$ae70fe81@jafywinxp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20040109160828.00c42b30@elemail.ele.vtt.fi> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [manet] RE: Comments on the draft-paakkonen-addressing-htr-manet-00.txt Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Pekka. Please see my comments below. > -----Original Message----- > From: Pekka P$B`@(Bkk?en [mailto:Pekka.Paakkonen@vtt.fi] > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 11:48 PM > To: jafy@etri.re.kr; manet@ietf.org > Cc: 'autonet' > Subject: RE: Comments on the > draft-paakkonen-addressing-htr-manet-00.txt > > > > At 10:10 7.1.2004 +0900, HyunWook Cha wrote: > >Hello, Pekka. > > > >Please see my comments below. > > > > > > > >I see. In your draft, same type of RREP which is with > I-flag set is > > > >used for two phases(prefix discovery, route refresh). > So, in above > > > >scenario, this issue can be resolved by sending unicast RREQ > > > becauase > > > >the route entry for AR is still valid though default > route is not > > > >available. > > > > > > The I-flag is set only in the prefix discovery phase. The route > > > refresh related messages (RREQ, RREP) are sent with I-flag set to > > > zero as can be seen in figure 6 > > > of the draft. > > > > > > >Then, how can you update default route entry? Normal RREP is not > >sufficient. > > Thanks for the correction. There is an error in the draft. > The I-flag is > set in both > phases. The bad side with this solution is route inconsistency, right? You are welcome. :-) > > > >At this time, I want to ask another question related to this > issue. In > >your draft, forwarding algorithm in intermediate nodes is > not defined. > >In other words, how should intermediate nodes deal with received > >packets? To do right thing, intermediate nodes should know that a > >received packet was sent using host route entry or default > route entry > >by sender. > > > >Then, periodic RREQ message should be broadcast if new path is broken > >and route entry for the gw is invalid, although old > path(=default route) > >is still valid. Because default route should be only used to the > >communication with a node regarded as an Internet node. > > > >Could you explain? > > > > The intermediate nodes forward packets based on the routing > table entries: > > If the destination is already in the routing table, it is > sent based on the > entry. > If no routing table entry for the destination exists, then > If the destination's IPv6 prefix is the MANET's IPv6 prefix, route > discovery is used. > else > the packet is sent normally i.e. the default route is used. > > How could an intermediate node determine if the previous node > forwarded the > packet using > the default route entry or the host entry? > Please think about two scenarios. If sender node obtains host route entry for dest by performing route discovery and sends its packets using the route entry and an intermediate node which has route entry for dest invalidated by RERR receives the packets(this is possible because broadcasting RERR is not reliable), packets are forwarded to the Internet using default route although RERR should be generated to notify to sender that path to dest was broken. Then, if dest is inside MANET and globally reachable, it is ok but packets may be forwarded through Internet until sender is notified by another RERR and reinitiates route discovery. If dest is inside MANET and globally unreachable, sender will receive ICMP dest unreachable but how can it deal with this error message corretly? Reinitiates route discovery after invalidating the route entry? Another case is the reverse one. If sender node does not obtain host route entry for dest by performing route discovery and sends its packets using the default entry and an intermediate node which has valid route entry for dest, it is desirable that wrong information about dest in sender be corrected through additional signalling. => "Route optimization" (refered to an ANS presentation) Wakikawa's draft does not have to consider above issues because it get rid of using default route with routing header. However, forwarding with default route entry which we are discussing should resolve this problem. > > > > > > > >Right. However, the use of routing header has several valuable > > > >advantages including maximized address stability and use > of optimal > > > >route. In addition, it works well with multiple gateways > > > since routing > > > >header leads packets to the right gateway. As many > drafts including > > > >yours point out, implementation of this requires kernel > > > patch as MIPL > > > >of HUT does for type 2 routing header. > > > > > > > >I think that alternative designs should avoid the use of > > > routing header > > > >while keeping all advantages mentioned above and > requires additional > > > >processing overhead as least as possible. > > > > > > > > > > Could you point out what "maximized address stability" means? > > > How does the use of routing header enable optimal routing > > > compared to next-hop routing? > > > > > > > > > >What I mean by "address stability" is how long an address > can be used? I > >refered to Christophe(an author of gateway autoconf draft)'s > notation. > >IMO, your idea has same effect with routing header since a configured > >address can be used as long as the gw is reachable. > > I agree. Don't both approaches require the refreshing of the gw-info, > which is used to update the lifetime of the IPv6 address(es)? > Right. > > > >At recent discussions(between C.Perkins and Manish) related > to Internet > >connectivity, I agree C.Perkins. We should consider that Internet > >connectivity be added on the original(basic) assumption and > >functionality of manet routing protocols. In other words, a > node who is > >equipped with Internet connectivity and wants to communicate with > >Internet nodes should do route discovery for any global dest address. > >Because a node can configure a static global address which can be > >diffent with prefixes advertised by GWs. In this sense, it > is desirable > >that a manet node communicates directly with a IPv6/MIPv6 > node which is > >inside the manet. > > > > OK, I see your point. Some node inside the MANET might have > configured an IPv6 address from a different IPv6 prefix than the > what is advertised in the gw-info, and also uses the > MANET-routing protocol. > And route discovery should be used in such situations. > > But if the node doesn't have MANET-capabilities (dest), and > the other node > does (source), > then the dest could not answer to the initial RREQs sent by > the source. > Because of this the packets in the draft were routed via the > AR between the > peers. > If the peers would be in the same link, then direct > communication could be > established > by using the link-local addresses? > Here are my thoughts about the determination and forwarding of default routing. Global address itself does not mean that it can be globally reachable from MANET point of view. Due to the dynamics of MANET, the current assumption(knowledge) about the location of the dest should be changeable(adaptable) according to the reachability of the dest rather than address itself as reactive routing protocols do. ("Reachability" means that dest has MANET routing functionality and is reachable via multi-hops.) My point is that your algorithm restrict the adaptability by relying on address itself. More specifically, route optimization can not be done in your algorithm when nodes with different global prefix from different GWs want to communicate each other. Or the communication itself is not allowed since sender forwards its packets toward Internet for dest with unknown global prefix although multi-hop paths are available. As for the above case mentioned by you, it is sufficient that sender node knows that dest is not reachable in local MANET and select default route for dest from now on. This change of state(knowledge) can be done through route discovery. Do you concern "delay" taken by route discovery? The algorithm suggested by me is helpful. Regards, HyunWook _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Jan 12 06:17:25 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA22098 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:17:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag042-000722-5c for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:16:58 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0CBGwWZ027024 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:16:58 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag042-00071n-21 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:16:58 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA22048 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:16:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag03y-0003jm-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:16:54 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag025-0003fK-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:14:58 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag00K-0003cY-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:13:08 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag00D-0006ii-7b; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:13:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag006-0006iA-5D for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:12:54 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA21954 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:12:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag002-0003aL-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:12:50 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Afzy8-0003X6-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:10:52 -0500 Received: from [203.199.83.248] (helo=rediffmail.com) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfzwH-0003Tz-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:08:58 -0500 Received: (qmail 14561 invoked by uid 510); 12 Jan 2004 11:07:41 -0000 Date: 12 Jan 2004 11:07:41 -0000 Message-ID: <20040112110741.14558.qmail@webmail36.rediffmail.com> Received: from unknown (203.200.145.160) by rediffmail.com via HTTP; 12 jan 2004 11:07:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "darwin jb clement" Reply-To: "darwin jb clement" To: manet@ietf.org Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Next_1073905660---0-203.199.83.248-14551" Subject: [manet] help req in glomosim Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_20_30, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08,HTML_MESSAGE,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multipart mime message --Next_1073905660---0-203.199.83.248-14551 Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

=0Ahi all:
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=0Amay i know how to debug my protocol in glomosim,= i.e
=0Ahow to include my code with a different name on to glomosim,
= =0Afor eg: to implement aodv protocol ,a change in config.in -Routing proto= col -YES  is sufficient,similarly how to sandwich my protocol on to th= e same.
=0Avaluable suggestions are much expected,as early as poss.
= =0Aregards-darwin j.b. clement=0A

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=0A=0A --Next_1073905660---0-203.199.83.248-14551 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi all:=0A=0Amay i know how to debug my protocol in glomosim, i.e=0Ahow to = include my code with a different name on to glomosim,=0Afor eg: to implemen= t aodv protocol ,a change in config.in -Routing protocol -YES is sufficien= t,similarly how to sandwich my protocol on to the same.=0Avaluable suggesti= ons are much expected,as early as poss.=0Aregards-darwin j.b. clement --Next_1073905660---0-203.199.83.248-14551-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Jan 12 08:25:51 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA25856 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:25:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag24F-0002te-Uk for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:25:20 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0CDPJsC011133 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:25:19 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag24F-0002tS-OL for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:25:19 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA25850 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:25:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag249-00019G-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:25:13 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag21u-00014D-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:22:55 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag201-0000yO-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:20:57 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag1z8-0002VR-O7; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:20:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag1yc-0002Uj-9T for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:19:31 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA25689 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:19:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag1yY-0000uF-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:19:26 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag1wj-0000oA-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:17:33 -0500 Received: from [131.175.54.147] (helo=salsa.cefriel.it) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag1vU-0000gr-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:16:16 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:17:34 +0100 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Trasmission time of RREQ packet in ns Thread-Index: AcPZDnCZPYngvxo4RWCXKPrWXG8CfQ== From: "Pierluigi Iodice" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [manet] Trasmission time of RREQ packet in ns Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I have 3 questions: 1 - Is the retransmission time of the RREQ packet in AODV or DSR = (implemented in ns) random at every nodes? 2 - Could anyone here tell me if it's possible to change the time of = retransmission of the RREQ packet. My idea is to add a random delay to = the RREQ packet during the route discovery phase in accord with the = position of the nodes that send and receive the RREQ packet? (Like in = PANDA algorithm, an approach to improve flooding based route discovery = in MANET) 3 - Where is possible to find the position information of every node = during the simulation run?=20 Best Regards Pierluigi. _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Jan 12 10:11:48 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA01047 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:11:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag3if-0007iF-EZ for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:11:20 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0CFB9A7029641 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:11:09 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag3if-0007i0-BF for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:11:09 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA00986 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:11:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag3id-0006kk-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:11:07 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag3gy-0006h3-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:09:24 -0500 Received: from [65.246.255.50] (helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag3fr-0006cm-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:08:16 -0500 Received: from optimus22.ietf.org ([132.151.6.22] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by mx2.foretec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Ag3fr-0003Ou-Qk for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:08:16 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag3ff-00078Y-Ux; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:08:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ag3eh-0006pM-Kd for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:07:05 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA00351 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:06:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag3ec-0006Xv-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:06:58 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag3cf-0006Hz-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:04:58 -0500 Received: from nestor.nmsu.edu ([128.123.34.146] helo=mail.nmsu.edu) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ag3aD-0005rW-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:02:25 -0500 Received: from PCMullen2 (pc-mullen-2.NMSU.Edu [128.123.245.103]) by mail.nmsu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83358200D; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:02:23 -0700 (MST) From: "John Mullen" To: "'sanjay prasad'" , Subject: RE: [manet] query Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:02:36 -0700 Message-ID: <002a01c3d91d$1d117c30$67f57b80@IEngr.ad.nmsu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <41412.210.212.48.6.1073719819.squirrel@mail.iiita.ac.in> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Sanjay, I think you will find the following link very useful. http://w3.antd.nist.gov/wctg/manet/manet_bibliog.html Pay particular attention to the first link: "recommended reading for people new to the field." John Mullen -----Original Message----- From: manet-admin@ietf.org [mailto:manet-admin@ietf.org] On Behalf Of sanjay prasad Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 12:30 AM To: manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] query hai, I am doing masters program in wireless computing & communication. Now i am in 2nd sem and i have to submit termpaper DATA IN P2P MANETS. I want help regarding how to study information relating to it through rfcs or web. Please give me suggestions from where i have to collect information. thanking you _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 13 00:48:43 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA14404 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgHPU-0005Hf-Mf for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:48:16 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0D5mGfV020311 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:48:16 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgHPU-0005HW-HM for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:48:16 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA14388 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:48:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgHPR-0003rc-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:48:13 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgHNU-0003oE-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:46:13 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgHMc-0003lt-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:45:18 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgHMN-0004yw-1d; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:45:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgHLW-0004xX-8K for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:44:10 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA14321 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:44:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgHLT-0003kD-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:44:07 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgHJd-0003iA-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:42:13 -0500 Received: from bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu ([128.226.1.18]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgHIY-0003fd-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:41:06 -0500 Received: from cs.binghamton.edu (cs.binghamton.edu [128.226.123.101]) by bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0D5eaUL012159 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (nael@localhost) by cs.binghamton.edu (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i0D5eBA27332 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:40:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:40:10 -0500 (EST) From: Nael Abu-Ghazaleh X-Sender: nael@opal To: manet@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [manet] Effective capacity of 802.11? Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 In the NS-2 models for 802.11, the PLCP header as well as the inter-frame separation periods (IFS and DIFS) take a fixed time regardless of the channel's raw transmission rate (i.e., 1Mbps, 2Mbps, etc...) So, as the channel capacity increases, they start to take up an increasing percentage of the available transmission time, and we see effective throughput numbers that are much smaller than the raw channel capacity. For example, with 11 Mbps channel (PLCP at 1Mbps), the throughput of a single hop connection with no inteference is roughly 3.7Mbps. With a 54 Mbps channel, this rises only to a little over 4 Mbps! My questions: Is this effect observed experimentally? Should/could the SIFS/DIFS period be scaled down with the channel throughput? If not, is the reason why they are fixed fundamental (e.g., they are related to propagation delay), or is the reason interoperation with connections whose channel state is different (in which case I assume we can scale them down if we assume fixed transmission rate)? best, -nael --- Dr. Nael Abu-Ghazaleh Assistant Professor -- CS Dept. State University of New York Binghamton, NY 13902--6000 (607) 777 4748 (Phone) (607) 777 4729 (Fax) nael@cs.binghamton.edu _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 13 05:41:02 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA04923 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 05:41:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgLyK-0007qN-SK for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 05:40:34 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0DAeWso030147 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 05:40:32 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgLyJ-0007qA-KJ for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 05:40:31 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA04902 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 05:40:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgLyG-00054x-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 05:40:28 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgLwN-0004zs-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 05:38:32 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgLvA-0004v4-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 05:37:17 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgLuw-0007FY-NU; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 05:37:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgLuG-0007EQ-GT for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 05:36:20 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA04765 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 05:36:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgLuD-0004sN-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 05:36:17 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgLsP-0004pg-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 05:34:26 -0500 Received: from [210.212.48.29] (helo=mail.iiita.ac.in) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgLrn-0004mA-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 05:33:50 -0500 Received: (qmail 11140 invoked by uid 7794); 13 Jan 2004 10:39:58 -0000 Received: from sanjay_wc03@iiita.ac.in by ccr29 by uid 7791 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (clamscan: 0.60. spamassassin: 2.44. 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Processed in 0.360845 secs); 13 Jan 2004 10:39:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail.iiita.ac.in) (sanjay?wc03@iiita.ac.in@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Jan 2004 10:39:58 -0000 Received: from 210.212.48.6 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user sanjay_wc03@iiita.ac.in) by mail.iiita.ac.in with HTTP; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:09:58 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <34094.210.212.48.6.1073990398.squirrel@mail.iiita.ac.in> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:09:58 +0530 (IST) From: "sanjay prasad" To: manet@ietf.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1-2.qvcs.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [manet] (no subject) Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hai, I am doing masters program in wireless computing & communication. Now i am in 2nd sem and i have to submit termpaper on FAT HANDOFFS AND PAGING IN IP BASED 4G WIRELESS NETWORKS. I want help regarding how to study information relating to it through rfcs or web. Please give me suggestions from where i have to collect information. thanking you _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 13 07:22:47 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA09238 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:22:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgNYn-00031t-Oc for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:22:18 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0DCMHbp011642 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:22:17 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgNYn-00031h-Iw for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:22:17 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA09218 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:22:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgNYm-0002kG-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:22:16 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgNX0-0002gT-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:20:27 -0500 Received: from [65.246.255.50] (helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgNVt-0002d1-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:19:17 -0500 Received: from optimus22.ietf.org ([132.151.6.22] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by mx2.foretec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AgNVs-0003wN-W2 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:19:17 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgNVe-0002im-0i; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:19:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgNUt-0002hw-5n for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:18:15 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA09081 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:18:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgNUs-0002Zw-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:18:14 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgNT5-0002Ud-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:16:24 -0500 Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk ([128.16.5.31]) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgNRL-0002KQ-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:14:35 -0500 Received: from thlemaxos.demon.co.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with UK SMTP id ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:13:34 +0000 Message-ID: <4003E0E9.8080402@cs.ucl.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:13:29 +0000 From: Theo Pagtzis Organization: UCL/Nets & Mobile Systems Group User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: el, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nael Abu-Ghazaleh , manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] Effective capacity of 802.11? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Nael, This is not the case in reality (i.e. not observed experimentally). In previous work we have conducted on 802.11in MobiSys group http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/t.pagtzis/papers/papers/ICC01opIssues802.11b.pdf and in presentation http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/t.pagtzis/papers/slides/ICC01.ps.gz we show how the raw bandwidth differentiates from the data bandwidth considering interframe separation. Interframe separation to our knowledge if scaled down per signalling rate modulation scheme would complicate the calculation of the NAV (network allocation vector) and probably lead to unfairness in contention with other STAs and the AP. The later is the case in the event where your exponential backoff starts counting down before attempting to capture the medium (after it waits for proportionally differentiated DIFS). If I am an 11Mbps STA and my DIFS is tuned for 11 MBps I would always win the contention with a 5.5 Mbps STA. This creates unfairness (although proportional) on medium access which is not good if you support a low data rate (say instead of 54 Mbps for .11g you only support 5.5 Mbps). Also remember that if DIFS expires for an STA too soon chances are also that it may inflate exponentially its backoff time. This would be more the case under increased load conditions. Also remember that with dynamic rate shifting, havoc is just around the corner if you decide to change your SIFS/DIFS/PIFS since you will be osscilating at the modulation scheme Tx range boundaries between rates FASTER than the calculation of the NAV can represent you as a waiting delay for the STAs that do NOT support your rate. So IMHO such optimization will shoot itself on the foot as you move around the cell (remember that structural obstructions can change the Tx rate without you moving really AWAY from the AP). hope this helps theo UCL/Mobile Systems Group Nael Abu-Ghazaleh wrote: >In the NS-2 models for 802.11, the PLCP header as well as the inter-frame >separation periods (IFS and DIFS) take a fixed time regardless of the >channel's raw transmission rate (i.e., 1Mbps, 2Mbps, etc...) > >So, as the channel capacity increases, they start to take up an >increasing percentage of the available transmission time, and we see >effective throughput numbers that are much smaller than the raw >channel capacity. > >For example, with 11 Mbps channel (PLCP at 1Mbps), the >throughput of a single hop connection with no inteference is roughly >3.7Mbps. With a 54 Mbps channel, this rises only to a little over 4 Mbps! > >My questions: Is this effect observed experimentally? Should/could the >SIFS/DIFS period be scaled down with the channel throughput? If not, is >the reason why they are fixed fundamental (e.g., they are related to >propagation delay), or is the reason interoperation with connections whose >channel state is different (in which case I assume we can scale them down >if we assume fixed transmission rate)? > >best, >-nael >--- >Dr. Nael Abu-Ghazaleh >Assistant Professor -- CS Dept. >State University of New York >Binghamton, NY 13902--6000 >(607) 777 4748 (Phone) >(607) 777 4729 (Fax) >nael@cs.binghamton.edu > > > >_______________________________________________ >manet mailing list >manet@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 13 09:49:39 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA14868 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:49:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgPqx-00089V-EU for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:49:11 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0DEnB2s031336 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:49:11 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgPqx-00089L-9X for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:49:11 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA14833 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgPqv-0002t7-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:49:09 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgPog-0002Z0-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:46:50 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgPnA-0002R0-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:45:16 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgPmz-0007jX-1y; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:45:05 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgPmn-0007iN-DQ for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:44:53 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA14559 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:44:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgPml-0002P0-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:44:51 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgPkw-0002I7-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:42:58 -0500 Received: from roura.ac.upc.es ([147.83.33.10]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgPk0-0002B9-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:42:00 -0500 Received: from rogent.ac.upc.es (rogent.ac.upc.es [147.83.31.7]) by roura.ac.upc.es (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0DEfT7J019246 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:41:29 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ew2004@localhost) by rogent.ac.upc.es (8.12.8/8.12.8) id i0DEfTQJ006888 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:41:29 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:41:28 +0100 From: Conferencia ew2004 To: manet@ietf.org Message-ID: <20040113144128.GA6883@ac.upc.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [manet] EW2004 Call For Participation Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.60 Dear Colleague, Please accept our apologies if you receive multiple copies of this e-mail. 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Sichitiu" X-X-Sender: mlsichit@data.ece.ncsu.edu To: manet@ietf.org cc: jjun@ncsu.edu In-Reply-To: <20040113170004.17392.16691.Mailman@www1.ietf.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [manet] Re: Effective capacity of 802.11? Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Hi, The ns-2 models follow the standard that indeed has fixed SIFS/DIFS periods and so on. However, 802.11b has an option for short preambles that boosts the performance (by a bit); I think that Cisco cards use this short preamble (I'm not aware of any other cards that do that). We have a paper on the subject [1] that explains and quantifies all the overheads encountered (some do change from technology to technology!). We also performed measurements for 802.11b (with Iperf) and they match closely the theoretical numbers. Best regards, Mihai [1] Jangeun Jun, Pushkin Peddabachagari and Mihail Sichitiu, "Theoretical Maximum Throughput of IEEE 802.11 and its Applications", Proc. of the 2nd IEEE International Symposium on Network Computing and Applications (NCA'03), Cambridge, MA, April 16-18, 2003, pp. 249-256. - available at http://www4.ncsu.edu/~mlsichit/Research/Publications/tmt_nca03.pdf > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:40:10 -0500 (EST) > From: Nael Abu-Ghazaleh > To: manet@ietf.org > Subject: [manet] Effective capacity of 802.11? > > > In the NS-2 models for 802.11, the PLCP header as well as the inter-frame > separation periods (IFS and DIFS) take a fixed time regardless of the > channel's raw transmission rate (i.e., 1Mbps, 2Mbps, etc...) > > So, as the channel capacity increases, they start to take up an > increasing percentage of the available transmission time, and we see > effective throughput numbers that are much smaller than the raw > channel capacity. > > For example, with 11 Mbps channel (PLCP at 1Mbps), the > throughput of a single hop connection with no inteference is roughly > 3.7Mbps. With a 54 Mbps channel, this rises only to a little over 4 Mbps! > > My questions: Is this effect observed experimentally? Should/could the > SIFS/DIFS period be scaled down with the channel throughput? If not, is > the reason why they are fixed fundamental (e.g., they are related to > propagation delay), or is the reason interoperation with connections whose > channel state is different (in which case I assume we can scale them down > if we assume fixed transmission rate)? > > best, > -nael > --- > Dr. Nael Abu-Ghazaleh > Assistant Professor -- CS Dept. > State University of New York > Binghamton, NY 13902--6000 > (607) 777 4748 (Phone) > (607) 777 4729 (Fax) > nael@cs.binghamton.edu _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 13 13:39:12 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA02221 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:39:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgTR5-0003XT-Tx for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:38:44 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0DIch5Q013597 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:38:43 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgTR5-0003XE-Qb for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:38:43 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA02131 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgTR3-0003s1-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:38:41 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgTP9-0003la-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:36:44 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgTNd-0003gk-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:35:09 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgTNX-0002tE-Si; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:35:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgTMs-0002pC-TS for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:34:23 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA01974 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:34:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgTMq-0003dR-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:34:20 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgTL3-0003Yz-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:32:30 -0500 Received: from web21001.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.227.55]) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgTJA-0003VU-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:30:32 -0500 Message-ID: <20040113183031.17882.qmail@web21001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.225.83.28] by web21001.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:30:31 PST Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:30:31 -0800 (PST) From: Yang Xiao Reply-To: yangxiao@ieee.org Subject: Re: [manet] Re: Effective capacity of 802.11? To: "Mihail L. Sichitiu" , manet@ietf.org Cc: jjun@ncsu.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ietf.org id NAA01975 Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=20 The Theoretical Maximum Throughput was first introduced in Yang Xiao and Jon Rosdahl, "Throughput Limit for IEEE 802.11,=94 IEEE 802 Interim Meeting, Wentworth Sydney, NSW, Australia, May 13-17, 2002, document number: IEEE 802.11-02/291r0. =20 Then, it appeared in=20 Yang Xiao and Jon Rosdahl, =93Throughput and Delay Limits of IEEE 802.11," IEEE Communications Letters, Vol. 6, No. 8, Aug. 2002, pp. 355-357. http://www.cs.memphis.edu/~yxiao/IEEE_CL_8_2002_xiao.pdf A follow up Yang Xiao and Jon Rosdahl, =93Performance Analysis and Enhancement for the Current and Future IEEE 802.11 MAC Protocols,=94 ACM SIGMOBILE Mobile Computing and Communications Review (MC2R), special issue on Wireless Home Networks, Vol. 7, No. 2, Apr. 2003, pp. 6-19. http://www.cs.memphis.edu/~yxiao/p6-xiao.pdf Yang Xiao, =93MAC Performance Analysis and Enhancement Over 100Mbps Data Rates for IEEE 802.11," Proceedings of The IEEE Vehicular Technology Conference, (IEEE VTC 2003 Fall), Oct. 6-9, 2003, Orlando, Florida, USA, =20 Related work Yang Xiao, =93Concatenation and Piggyback Mechanisms for the IEEE 802.11 MAC,=94 Proceeding of IEEE Wireless Communications and Networking Conference 2004, (IEEE WCNC 2004), accepted.=20 Yang Xiao and Jon Rosdahl, =93A Performance Analysis of IEEE 802.11a Wireless LAN,=94 Proceedings of The 6th World Multi-Conference on SYSTEMICS, CYBERNETICS AND INFORMATICS, (SCI 2002), July 14-18, 2002, Orlando, Florida, U.S.A, pp. 243-248. Regards Yang =3D=3D Yang Xiao The University of Memphis http://www.cs.memphis.edu/~yxiao/ --- "Mihail L. Sichitiu" wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > The ns-2 models follow the standard that indeed has fixed SIFS/DIFS > periods and so on. However, 802.11b has an option for short preambles > that > boosts the performance (by a bit); I think that Cisco cards use this > short > preamble (I'm not aware of any other cards that do that). >=20 > We have a paper on the subject [1] that explains and quantifies all > the > overheads encountered (some do change from technology to > technology!). >=20 > We also performed measurements for 802.11b (with Iperf) and they > match > closely the theoretical numbers. >=20 > Best regards, > Mihai >=20 > [1] Jangeun Jun, Pushkin Peddabachagari and Mihail Sichitiu, > "Theoretical > Maximum Throughput of IEEE 802.11 and its Applications", Proc. of > the=20 > 2nd IEEE International Symposium on Network Computing and > Applications > (NCA'03), Cambridge, MA, April 16-18, 2003, pp. 249-256. > - available at=20 > http://www4.ncsu.edu/~mlsichit/Research/Publications/tmt_nca03.pdf >=20 >=20 >=20 > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:40:10 -0500 (EST) > > From: Nael Abu-Ghazaleh > > To: manet@ietf.org > > Subject: [manet] Effective capacity of 802.11? > >=20 > >=20 > > In the NS-2 models for 802.11, the PLCP header as well as the > inter-frame > > separation periods (IFS and DIFS) take a fixed time regardless of > the > > channel's raw transmission rate (i.e., 1Mbps, 2Mbps, etc...) > >=20 > > So, as the channel capacity increases, they start to take up an > > increasing percentage of the available transmission time, and we > see > > effective throughput numbers that are much smaller than the raw > > channel capacity. =20 > >=20 > > For example, with 11 Mbps channel (PLCP at 1Mbps), the > > throughput of a single hop connection with no inteference is > roughly > > 3.7Mbps. With a 54 Mbps channel, this rises only to a little over > 4 Mbps! > >=20 > > My questions: Is this effect observed experimentally? Should/could > the > > SIFS/DIFS period be scaled down with the channel throughput? If > not, is > > the reason why they are fixed fundamental (e.g., they are related > to > > propagation delay), or is the reason interoperation with > connections whose > > channel state is different (in which case I assume we can scale > them down > > if we assume fixed transmission rate)? > >=20 > > best, > > -nael > > --- > > Dr. Nael Abu-Ghazaleh > > Assistant Professor -- CS Dept.=20 > > State University of New York > > Binghamton, NY 13902--6000 > > (607) 777 4748 (Phone) > > (607) 777 4729 (Fax) > > nael@cs.binghamton.edu >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 13 20:16:42 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA25673 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:16:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgZdl-0006GF-Vb for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:16:14 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0E1GD4G024064 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:16:13 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgZdl-0006G3-Q6 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:16:13 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA25663 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:16:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgZdZ-0001rF-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:16:01 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgZbX-0001lE-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:13:56 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgZXS-0001he-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:09:42 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgZWn-0005pY-W1; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:09:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgZWJ-0005or-R9 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:08:32 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA25548 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:08:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgZWH-0001fy-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:08:29 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgZUc-0001ds-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:06:47 -0500 Received: from mandala.kddlabs.co.jp ([192.26.91.6] helo=mandala.kddilabs.jp) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgZTl-0001a2-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:05:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mandala.kddilabs.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5EFEC93D for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:05:20 +0900 (JST) Received: from radio.radio.kddlabs.co.jp (radio.radio.kddlabs.co.jp [172.19.84.2]) by mandala.kddilabs.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4516DEC938 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:05:20 +0900 (JST) Received: from wajima (wajima.radio.kddlabs.co.jp [172.19.84.60]) by radio.radio.kddlabs.co.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0E15J0m028933 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:05:20 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:05:29 +0900 From: taka To: manet@ietf.org Message-Id: <20040114100043.A8D6.SEAMLESS2003JP@yahoo.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.00.03 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [manet] precursor list for AODV operation Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all. I have questions about RFC 3561 (AODV). > 6.7. Receiving and Forwarding Route Replies > ..... > > When any node transmits a RREP, the precursor list for the > corresponding destination node is updated by adding to it the next > hop node to which the RREP is forwarded. Also, at each node the > (reverse) route used to forward a RREP has its lifetime changed to be > the maximum of (existing-lifetime, (current time + > ACTIVE_ROUTE_TIMEOUT). Finally, the precursor list for the next hop > towards the destination is updated to contain the next hop towards > the source. I don't understand the real intention of the third sentence. - Does the sentence means that when a node B receives a RREP from a node C in the next figure, it adds a node A to the precursor list for the node C? S-------A---------B---------C---------D RREQ-> RREQ-> RREQ-> RREQ-> <-RREP <-RREP - If so, why the operation is needed? If the node A is communicating with the node C, the node B must have the precursor list for either the node A or the node C. Thanks in advance. Taka _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 14 01:23:27 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA04322 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:23:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgeQX-0001Uj-PD for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:22:53 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0E6Mrb2005739 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:22:53 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgeQX-0001UU-JQ for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:22:53 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA04309 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:22:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgeQP-0004GO-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:22:45 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgeMI-00049b-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:18:31 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgeIr-00043y-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:14:57 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgeHx-00017g-BZ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:14:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgeHW-00016t-QU for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:13:34 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA04149 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:13:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgeHM-00040m-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:13:24 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgeCr-0003uF-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:08:45 -0500 Received: from law15-f27.law15.hotmail.com ([64.4.23.27] helo=hotmail.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgeBr-0003ql-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:07:43 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:07:12 -0800 Received: from 203.129.220.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:07:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.129.220.117] X-Originating-Email: [karun8880@hotmail.com] X-Sender: karun8880@hotmail.com From: "Karun Verma" To: manet@ietf.org Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:37:12 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2004 06:07:12.0869 (UTC) FILETIME=[A6EDC150:01C3DA64] Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ietf.org id BAA04151 Subject: [manet] Question regarding simulation of AODV Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,CLICK_BELOW, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, I am doing Simulation of AODV Protocol. and using a script mentioned in t= he=20 exmaple direcory of ns-2.26. while creating node the 'aodv-create-mobile-node' command does not work. instead of it i used the 'dsr-create-mobile-node'. Please tell me that is it fine to use the 'dsr' node because aodv is=20 combination dsr and dsdv protocol. if it is not please suggest me a way out. what is the problem with the=20 'aodv-create-mobile-node' command, do i have to include any file to use i= t. Thanx in advance ############################################ # Karun Verma = =20 # ########################################### _________________________________________________________________ NRI=92s, Free Money transfer to India.=20 http://server1.msn.co.in/msnleads/citibankrca/citibankrca2.asp?type=3Dhot= tag=20 Click here. _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 14 06:22:16 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA11863 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:22:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Agj5k-0000wb-3F for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:21:44 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0EBLiEV003626 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:21:44 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Agj5j-0000wP-U9 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:21:43 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA11825 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:21:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Agj5V-0003dt-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:21:29 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Agiz8-0003OZ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:14:54 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Agixp-0003Hg-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:13:33 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgixK-0000T5-C0; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:13:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgixB-0000Si-BQ for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:12:58 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA11669 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:12:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Agix2-0003Gq-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:12:44 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Agit3-0003BC-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:08:38 -0500 Received: from sam.comnets.uni-bremen.de ([134.102.186.10] helo=bugs.comnets.uni-bremen.de) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Agirg-00038b-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:07:12 -0500 Received: from scoobydoo (scoobydoo.comnets.uni-bremen.de [134.102.155.152]) by bugs.comnets.uni-bremen.de (8.11.0/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with ESMTP id i0EB7CQ17383; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:07:12 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: bugs.comnets.uni-bremen.de: Host scoobydoo.comnets.uni-bremen.de [134.102.155.152] claimed to be scoobydoo From: "Koojana Kuladinithi" To: "'taka'" , Subject: AW: [manet] precursor list for AODV operation Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:07:14 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c3da8e$9115ebd0$989b6686@scoobydoo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20040114100043.A8D6.SEAMLESS2003JP@yahoo.co.jp> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Taka =20 >=20 > I have questions about RFC 3561 (AODV). >=20 > > 6.7. Receiving and Forwarding Route Replies > > ..... > > > > When any node transmits a RREP, the precursor list for the > > corresponding destination node is updated by adding to it the = next > > hop node to which the RREP is forwarded. Also, at each node the > > (reverse) route used to forward a RREP has its lifetime changed = to be > > the maximum of (existing-lifetime, (current time + > > ACTIVE_ROUTE_TIMEOUT). Finally, the precursor list for the next = hop > > towards the destination is updated to contain the next hop = towards > > the source. >=20 >=20 > I don't understand the real intention of the third sentence. >=20 > - Does the sentence means that when a node B receives a RREP from a = node C > in the next figure, it adds a node A to the precursor list for the = node C? >=20 > S-------A---------B---------C---------D > RREQ-> RREQ-> RREQ-> RREQ-> > <-RREP <-RREP >=20 Third sentence means (as I understood) that it updates the precursor = list for the reverse route entry. Destination next-hop Precursor-List S A C - (As explained in third sentence) D C A - (As explained in First sentence) > - If so, why the operation is needed? > If the node A is communicating with the node C, the node B must have = the > precursor list for either the node A or the node C. I guess, in your example A is communicating with C through B and B = should detects the link connectivity to both A and C. If link to C fails, B = will send RERR to A, telling that D is unreachable. In the same manner, if = link to A fails, it sends RERR to C, telling S is unreachable. That's why B should maintain Precursor list for both directions. =20 Regards, Koojana _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 14 10:31:30 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA23686 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:31:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Agmz0-0005ak-GE for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:31:03 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0EFV1mR021477 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:31:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Agmyz-0005aK-Nt for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:31:01 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA23661 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:30:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Agmyv-0000RJ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:30:58 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Agmxx-0000O4-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:29:58 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgmxO-0000LG-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:29:22 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Agmx4-0005HU-8u; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:29:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Agmwx-0005GP-E3 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:28:55 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA23573 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:28:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Agmwu-0000K5-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:28:52 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Agmw0-0000Hq-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:27:57 -0500 Received: from [131.175.54.147] (helo=salsa.cefriel.it) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgmvE-0000Cm-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:27:08 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:28:20 +0100 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [manet] Re: Effective capacity of 802.11? Thread-Index: AcPaBENyXTzg3CX+Tf+U0uS7LdOcMwArnxiQ From: "Fabio Bonanni" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [manet] IP packet size distribution Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all! Does anybody have an up-to-date IP packet size distribution? Thanx in advance. Fabio=20 Ing. Fabio BONANNI CEFRIEL - Politecnico di Milano=20 (ICT Center of Excellence For Research, Innovation, Education and = industrial Labs partnership) =20 Advanced Mobile & Wireline Transmission Systems Unit Via Fucini, 2 - 20133 Milano, Italy website: www.cefriel.it _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 14 11:03:16 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA24983 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:03:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgnTl-0007Qo-Oa for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:02:50 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0EG2n2M028560 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:02:49 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgnTl-0007QZ-KA for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:02:49 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA24921 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:02:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgnTj-0001j4-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:02:47 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgnSi-0001eA-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:01:44 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgnRj-0001b5-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:00:43 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgnR6-00073d-Uy; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:00:04 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgnQs-00072W-J4 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:59:50 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA24775 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgnQq-0001ZU-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:59:48 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgnPw-0001Xq-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:58:53 -0500 Received: from pat.uio.no ([129.240.130.16] ident=7411) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgnPA-0001WK-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:58:05 -0500 Received: from mail-mx1.uio.no ([129.240.10.29]) by pat.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgnP6-0005Hj-2d for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:58:00 +0100 Received: from sjau.ifi.uio.no ([129.240.65.207]) by mail-mx1.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1AgnP4-0000VN-SB for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:57:58 +0100 Received: from localhost (andreto@localhost) by sjau.ifi.uio.no ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:57:57 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:57:57 +0100 (MET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_T=F8nnesen?= To: manet@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-MailScanner-Information: This message has been scanned for viruses/spam. Contact postmaster@uio.no if you have questions about this scanning X-UiO-MailScanner: No virus found X-UiO-Spam-info: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=0, required 12) Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Subject: [manet] OLSR implementation update Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sorry to flood those not interested :-) But FYI the uOLSR deamon has gone trough a major update and RFC3626 compliant link-sensing, duplicate-table, forwarding and more have been added. The implementation is now closing in on full basic-RFC3626 compliance. Drop by: http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~andreto/uolsrd/index.cgi for more information. Andreas T=F8nnesen UniK University Graduation Center University of Oslo http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~andreto/uolsrd/index.cgi _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 14 21:31:33 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA27025 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:31:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgxHl-0000Pf-Gl for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:31:05 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0F2V5US001581 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:31:05 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgxHl-0000PQ-CY for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:31:05 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA26987 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:31:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgxHi-00003n-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:31:02 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgxGk-000010-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:30:02 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgxGB-0007mM-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:29:27 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgxFn-0008MO-Lz; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:29:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AgxF2-0008L0-CJ for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:28:16 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA26891 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:28:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgxEz-0007kp-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:28:13 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AgxE2-0007iY-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:27:15 -0500 Received: from web21103.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.227.105]) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgxDp-0007gT-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:27:01 -0500 Message-ID: <20040115022700.17535.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.119.86.30] by web21103.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:27:00 PST Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:27:00 -0800 (PST) From: Vin To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [manet] Vehicular mobility models for ns2 Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 is anyone aware of any vehicular mobility model implementation for ns2? Is the current cmu wireless extensions, which hase been incorporated into ns-2, capable of generating such models? Thanks in advance, Vin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 14 21:58:46 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA27769 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:58:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Agxhx-0002SL-AW for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:58:09 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0F2w9Dn009440 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:58:09 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Agxhx-0002SB-2y for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:58:09 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA27719 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Agxht-0000qU-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:58:06 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Agxgt-0000o3-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:57:04 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Agxg0-0000nB-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:56:08 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Agxfu-0002BA-Ag; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:56:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Agxf2-00029B-D5 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:55:08 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA27688 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:55:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Agxez-0000lv-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:55:05 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Agxe1-0000kw-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:54:05 -0500 Received: from web14424.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.174.220]) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AgxdN-0000k9-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:53:25 -0500 Message-ID: <20040115025325.33191.qmail@web14424.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.111.20.142] by web14424.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:53:25 PST Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:53:25 -0800 (PST) From: Amit Jardosh Subject: Re: [manet] Vehicular mobility models for ns2 To: Vin , manet@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <20040115022700.17535.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.60 hi Vinod, for a quick list .. you could refer to some work done at the Terminodes Project (EPFL - Modified Random Waypoint models), or a model suggested by Prof. Helmy at USC (Manhattan Model etc.) or you could extend some of the plug-ins that are provided at the following link to simulate vehicles instead of moving individuals .. http://moment.cs.ucsb.edu/mobility/ hth, -Amit --- Vin wrote: > is anyone aware of any vehicular mobility model > implementation for ns2? Is the current cmu wireless > extensions, which hase been incorporated into ns-2, > capable of generating such models? > Thanks in advance, > Vin > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" > Sweepstakes > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet ===== Amit Jardosh Graduate Student MOMENT Lab, Dept. of Computer Science University of California, Santa Barbara homepage: www.cs.ucsb.edu/~amitj __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Jan 15 02:09:45 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA09807 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:09:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ah1cy-0005XS-LX for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:09:16 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0F79GWY021282 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:09:16 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ah1cy-0005XB-5T for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:09:16 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA09403 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:09:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ah1cu-0000UB-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:09:12 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ah1bx-0000QS-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:08:13 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ah1b3-0000Ox-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:07:17 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ah1ao-0004bW-U4; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:07:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ah1aE-0004WG-PD for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:06:26 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA07482 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:06:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ah1aA-0000MZ-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:06:23 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ah1ZA-0000L2-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:05:21 -0500 Received: from law15-f111.law15.hotmail.com ([64.4.23.111] helo=hotmail.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ah1Ye-0000II-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:04:48 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 23:04:17 -0800 Received: from 203.129.220.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:04:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.129.220.117] X-Originating-Email: [karun8880@hotmail.com] X-Sender: karun8880@hotmail.com From: "Karun Verma" To: manet@ietf.org Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:34:17 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2004 07:04:17.0982 (UTC) FILETIME=[CADE45E0:01C3DB35] Subject: [manet] Help needed!! Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,CLICK_BELOW, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.60 Hello ALL, While doing simulation of aodv and tora protcol under ns-2 in linux 7.2, i found these errors. please suggest a wayout of the problem. #=======================for wireless_aodv.tcl===================== [root@localhost ex]# ns wireless_aodv.tcl num_nodes is set 50 Loading connection pattern... Loading scenario file... Load complete... Starting Simulation... Segmentation fault #=========================for wireless_tora.tcl===================== [root@localhost ex]# ns wireless_tora.tcl num_nodes is set 50 can't read "imep_(0)": no such variable while executing "subst $[subst $var" (procedure "_o15" line 5) (SplitObject set line 5) invoked from within "$self set imep_(0)" (procedure "_o15" line 17) (Node/MobileNode add-target line 17) invoked from within "$self add-target $agent $port" (procedure "_o15" line 15) (Node attach line 15) invoked from within "$node attach $ragent [Node set rtagent_port_]" (procedure "create-routing-agent" line 9) invoked from within "create-routing-agent $node $id" (procedure "create-mobile-node" line 36) invoked from within "create-mobile-node $i" invoked from within "if { [string compare $opt(rp) "dsr"] == 0} { for {set i 0} {$i < $opt(nn) } {incr i} { dsr-create-mobile-node $i } } elseif { [string compare $opt..." (file "wireless_tora.tcl" line 210) ================================================================ While the files tora.tcl and aodv.tcl under the ~ns/tcl/mobility folder are compiling successfully. the files attached with the mail are wireless_aodv.tcl wireless_tora.tcl aodv.tcl tora.tcl Please help me urgently. thanx in advance. ############################################ # Karun Verma # ########################################### _________________________________________________________________ Send DD, pay no commission. http://server1.msn.co.in/msnleads/suvidha/dec03.asp?type=hottag Click here. _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Jan 15 04:09:26 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA20401 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 04:09:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ah3Un-00065T-3u for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 04:08:57 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0F98uJF023360 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 04:08:56 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ah3Ue-00064d-2x for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 04:08:48 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA20272 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 04:08:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ah3Ub-0005fQ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 04:08:45 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ah3TH-0005Sl-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 04:07:23 -0500 Received: from [65.246.255.50] (helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ah3SF-0005O4-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 04:06:19 -0500 Received: from optimus22.ietf.org ([132.151.6.22] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by mx2.foretec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Ah3QH-0005lW-JC for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 04:04:17 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ah3Q2-0005Ca-2t; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 04:04:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ah3PM-0005BE-9L for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 04:03:20 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA20115 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 04:03:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ah3PJ-0005Is-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 04:03:17 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ah3OO-0005Hv-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 04:02:21 -0500 Received: from law10-f99.law10.hotmail.com ([64.4.15.99] helo=hotmail.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ah3Nf-0005F1-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 04:01:36 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 01:01:05 -0800 Received: from 217.218.127.71 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 09:01:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [217.218.127.71] X-Originating-Email: [saeid_masajedi@hotmail.com] X-Sender: saeid_masajedi@hotmail.com From: "S.M.Saeed Masajedian" To: manet@ietf.org Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 09:01:04 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2004 09:01:05.0262 (UTC) FILETIME=[1B8858E0:01C3DB46] Subject: [manet] Cooperative Location Management Method Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Dear friends, I have proposed a new algorithm for "Location Management in Cellular Networks" which its first paper has been accepted in ICN'2004. 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Ragupathy" To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-304127386-1074164909=:81987" Subject: [manet] GPS implementing in locatoin based algorithm Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 --0-304127386-1074164909=:81987 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hai, I am trying to implement a location based routing algorithm. I want to know how the destination node posistion is known to the source. will GPS provide the position of destination? if any one know that how to find it in ns2, please help me. thanks in advance R.Ragupathy Lecturer Department Of Computer Science & Engg. 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Hai,
I am trying to implement a location based routing algorithm. I want to know how the destination node posistion is known to the source. will GPS provide the position of destination? if any one know that how to find it in ns2, please help me.
thanks in advance
 


R.Ragupathy
Lecturer
Department Of Computer Science & Engg.
Annamalai University
Tamil Nadu - 608002
India.

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Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes --0-304127386-1074164909=:81987-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Jan 15 07:05:09 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA00079 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:05:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ah6Et-0000Qa-93 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:04:43 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0FC4h7D001638 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:04:43 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ah6Et-0000QL-4i for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:04:43 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA00022 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:04:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ah6Eo-00026s-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:04:38 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ah6Dq-00022D-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:03:39 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ah6DM-0001yC-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:03:08 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ah6DF-0008Vg-Sb; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:03:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ah6Cf-0008Sd-0E for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:02:25 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA29797 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:02:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ah6Ca-0001t2-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:02:20 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ah6Bc-0001mp-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:01:20 -0500 Received: from cheviot3.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.233.117] ident=root) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ah6Ad-0001jN-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:00:19 -0500 Received: from [128.240.149.114] (deerbook.ncl.ac.uk [128.240.149.114]) by cheviot3.ncl.ac.uk (8.10.1-20030918-patch/8.10.1) with ESMTP id i0FBxpG03813; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:59:51 GMT In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <646ED483-4752-11D8-A3EB-000A9575BD30@ncl.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: manet@ietf.org From: Einar Vollset Subject: Re: [manet] Help needed!! Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:00:20 +0000 To: "Karun Verma" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) X-Newcastle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Postmaster@newcastle.ac.uk for more information X-Newcastle-MailScanner: Found to be clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can I suggest that questions like this gets put to the appropriate simulation specific mailing lists, rather than to the IETF MANET mailing list, as this is wildly off topic for this forum. Cheers, Einar _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Jan 15 18:51:15 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA09014 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AhHGD-0003aG-86 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:50:49 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0FNonEc013773 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:50:49 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AhHGD-0003a4-32 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:50:49 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA08992 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:50:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AhHG9-0005p7-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:50:45 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AhHFE-0005mX-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:49:48 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AhHEc-0005l5-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:49:10 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AhHET-0003IT-Qc; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:49:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AhHEI-0003Hy-S5 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:48:50 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA08971 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:48:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AhHEF-0005kQ-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:48:47 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AhHDL-0005j0-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:47:51 -0500 Received: from cms4.etri.re.kr ([129.254.16.14] helo=cms4.cms.etri.re.kr) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AhHCq-0005fn-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:47:20 -0500 Received: from jafywinxp (pd412h.etri.re.kr [129.254.112.174]) by cms4.cms.etri.re.kr with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id DAY6X4D6; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:49:04 +0900 Reply-To: From: "HyunWook Cha" To: "'R. Ragupathy'" , Subject: RE: [manet] GPS implementing in locatoin based algorithm Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:46:47 +0900 Message-ID: <02cb01c3dbc1$d79a98b0$ae70fe81@jafywinxp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20040115110829.85058.qmail@web13126.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ((MobileNode *)Node::get_node_by_address(dst_address))->getLoc(&x, &y, &z); I also strongly suggest that you should read ns2 manual or other documents which can be found ns2 web site, and ns2 user mailing list before posting ns2 specific questions to this wg. HyunWook -----Original Message----- From: manet-admin@ietf.org [mailto:manet-admin@ietf.org] On Behalf Of R. Ragupathy Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:08 PM To: manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] GPS implementing in locatoin based algorithm Hai, I am trying to implement a location based routing algorithm. I want to know how the destination node posistion is known to the source. will GPS provide the position of destination? if any one know that how to find it in ns2, please help me. thanks in advance R.Ragupathy Lecturer Department Of Computer Science & Engg. Annamalai University Tamil Nadu - 608002 India. Do you Yahoo!? _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Jan 15 19:54:32 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA11156 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 19:54:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AhIFM-0006ze-Vm for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 19:54:03 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0G0s0xI026876 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 19:54:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AhIFM-0006zP-Qd for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 19:54:00 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA11140 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 19:53:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AhIFK-0000ef-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; 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Thu, 15 Jan 2004 19:51:00 -0500 Received: from holly.csn.ul.ie ([136.201.105.4]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AhIBq-0000PP-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 19:50:22 -0500 Received: from skynet.csn.ul.ie (skynet [136.201.105.2]) by holly.csn.ul.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D05F93710 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 00:49:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: by skynet.csn.ul.ie (Postfix, from userid 2220) id 15A13E9E0; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 00:49:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skynet.csn.ul.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63167276 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 00:49:52 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 00:49:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Bryan Hogan X-X-Sender: bryan@skynet To: manet@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [manet] ns-2 DSR FAQ ready Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Hello, I have started to write an FAQ for the DSR implementation in ns-2, there are thirty questions and answeres there now. it is available at http://www.geocities.com/b_j_hogan/ please send any comments, corrections or additional questions to the e-mail address on the page. thanks, Bryan _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 16 05:26:42 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA08376 for ; 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Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:21:53 -0500 Received: from antivirus.cc.iitk.ac.in (antivirus.cc.iitk.ac.in [172.31.1.102]) by mail2.iitk.ac.in (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id i0GAmhPM023633 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 16:18:51 +0530 Received: from mailhost.cse.iitk.ac.in ([172.27.16.2]) by antivirus.cc.iitk.ac.in (NAVGW 2.5.2.12) with SMTP id M2004011615513209853 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:51:32 +0530 Received: from cseultra3 (cseultra3.cse.iitk.ac.in [172.27.16.3]) by mailhost.cse.iitk.ac.in (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0GAkZTh031705 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 16:16:35 +0530 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:52:37 +0530 (IST) From: Nilesh Bansal To: manet@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <20040115170004.10098.70554.Mailman@www1.ietf.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [manet] QoS on AODV code Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Hi All, I want to get feel of how QoS on AODV works. As AODV comes along with ns package, i strongly feel that i can get qos on aodv implementation code from this grp rather than putting lots of effort in doing it on my own. Could ne1 plz provide me the code for the same. Or atleast some idea how to implement that asap in efficient way (?using the available aodv code). Thanks in anticipation. --Nilesh ------------------------------------------------------- To know how to dispense with things is to possess them. ------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 16 11:36:59 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA20811 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AhWxR-000364-Q8 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:36:31 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0GGaTs4011903 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:36:29 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AhWxR-00035t-L5 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:36:29 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA20781 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:36:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AhWxN-0007C3-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:36:25 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AhWwP-00075C-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:35:25 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AhWvR-0006yh-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:34:25 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AhWv3-0002ic-Rz; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:34:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AhWuM-0002fw-Fr for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:33:18 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA20508 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:33:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AhWuL-0006qM-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:33:17 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AhWtM-0006hU-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:32:17 -0500 Received: from darkstar.iprg.nokia.com ([205.226.5.69]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AhWsN-0006Vq-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:31:16 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (8.11.0/8.11.0-DARKSTAR) id i0GGUT500385; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:30:29 -0800 X-mProtect: <200401161630> Nokia Silicon Valley Messaging Protection Received: from charliep.iprg.nokia.com (205.226.2.89, claiming to be "iprg.nokia.com") by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com smtpdqFYkmt; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:30:28 PST Message-ID: <4008119A.634382D1@iprg.nokia.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:30:18 -0800 From: "Charles E. Perkins" Organization: Nokia Research Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nilesh Bansal CC: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] QoS on AODV code References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Nilesh, There is a specification for QoS over AODV. Have you looked at that? Regards, Charlie P. Nilesh Bansal wrote: > > Hi All, > I want to get feel of how QoS on AODV works. As AODV comes along > with ns package, i strongly feel that i can get qos on aodv implementation > code from this grp rather than putting lots of effort in doing it on my > own. > > Could ne1 plz provide me the code for the same. Or atleast some idea how > to implement that asap in efficient way (?using the available aodv code). > > Thanks in anticipation. > --Nilesh > ------------------------------------------------------- > To know how to dispense with things is to possess them. > ------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 16 15:35:01 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA27975 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:35:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ahafm-0006U4-N2 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:34:32 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0GKYUDg024918 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:34:30 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ahafm-0006Tp-Ew for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:34:30 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA27961 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:34:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ahafk-0003SU-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:34:28 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ahaeo-0003Pt-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:33:31 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AhaeX-0003Ng-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:33:13 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AhaeM-00068P-5M; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:33:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ahado-00066o-4O for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:32:28 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA27921 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:32:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ahadm-0003ML-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:32:26 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ahacx-0003Ju-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:31:36 -0500 Received: from pony2pub.arc.nasa.gov ([128.102.31.42]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AhacD-0003DB-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:30:50 -0500 Received: from nren-194.arc.nasa.gov ([128.102.196.194] verified) by pony2pub.arc.nasa.gov (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP id 6464748 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:30:11 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Jerry Toung Reply-To: jtoung@arc.nasa.gov To: manet@ietf.org Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:27:37 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200401161227.37101.jtoung@arc.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [manet] DSR source route question Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everybody, we are implementing DSR under FreeBSD5.0 as a kernel module pseudo-driver= =2E I have a question about paragraph 8.1.5 of draft 09.txt on how to process= a=20 received source route option. Is it the case that every node that over hears a packet with a source rou= te=20 option will forward it or only those nodes whose IP address are listed i= n=20 the source route? =20 C A----B----D----E----F in the example above the source route from A to F is B,D,E. When C hears = the=20 packet from A, should C forward it or discard it after it has updated its= =20 route cache? Thank you, Jerry. --=20 _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Jan 19 12:35:53 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA28878 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:35:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AidIt-0007UW-80 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:35:11 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0JHZBn2028794 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:35:11 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AidIt-0007UL-4V for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:35:11 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA28843 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:35:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AidIm-0006Zd-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:35:04 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AidG1-0006MJ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:32:14 -0500 Received: from [65.246.255.50] (helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AidDc-0006D7-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:29:44 -0500 Received: from optimus22.ietf.org ([132.151.6.22] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by mx2.foretec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AidBc-0003nL-U0 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:27:41 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AidAz-0006o6-1E; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:27:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AidAU-0006nF-IQ for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:26:36 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA28644 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:26:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AidAI-00067A-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:26:19 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Aid9B-00064l-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:25:10 -0500 Received: from [203.199.83.247] (helo=rediffmail.com) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aid6a-0005yz-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:22:28 -0500 Received: (qmail 9027 invoked by uid 510); 19 Jan 2004 17:21:51 -0000 Date: 19 Jan 2004 17:21:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20040119172151.9026.qmail@mailweb34.rediffmail.com> Received: from unknown (210.214.5.147) by rediffmail.com via HTTP; 19 jan 2004 17:21:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "darwin jb clement" Reply-To: "darwin jb clement" To: glomosim-users-l@lists.ucla.edu Cc: manet@ietf.org Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Next_1074532911---0-203.199.83.247-9010" Subject: [manet] help required compilation of parsec files Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_20_30, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08,HTML_MESSAGE,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multipart mime message --Next_1074532911---0-203.199.83.247-9010 Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

=0Ahi all;
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=0Ai just wanna know how to compile individual pars= ecc(.pc) files, using the compiler,
=0Aif i declare it globally and comp= ile ,it says that no files to initialize and entities missing something lik= e that.
=0Acould any one find me a solution at the earliest.
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=0A=0A --Next_1074532911---0-203.199.83.247-9010 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi all;=0A=0Ai just wanna know how to compile individual parsecc(.pc) files= , using the compiler,=0Aif i declare it globally and compile ,it says that = no files to initialize and entities missing something like that.=0Acould an= y one find me a solution at the earliest.=0Aregards:darwin j.b. clement --Next_1074532911---0-203.199.83.247-9010-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Jan 19 13:52:33 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA01842 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:52:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AieVJ-0004Ci-FR for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:52:05 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0JIq5qO016154 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:52:05 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AieVJ-0004CT-CD for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:52:05 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA01818 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AieVH-0003UL-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:52:03 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AieUP-0003Ln-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:51:10 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AieTS-0003Bs-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:50:10 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AieTM-0003q3-GD; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:50:04 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AieTG-0003p5-MR for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:49:58 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA01699 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:49:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AieTE-00039g-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:49:56 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AieSG-00032M-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:48:57 -0500 Received: from newmail.airespace.com ([209.11.156.57] helo=AIREMAIL.airespace.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AieRF-0002uI-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:47:54 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C3DEBC.D56A203C" Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:48:31 -0800 Message-ID: <55749BC69138654EBBC4C50BA4F556104893B6@AIREMAIL.airespace.com> Thread-Topic: protocol Thread-Index: AcPevNVq9WI5iDH/Rh20H//dNzOK9A== From: "Ken Peirce" To: Subject: [manet] protocol Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3DEBC.D56A203C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am looking for a routing protocol for a fixed 802.11 wireless mesh network. As of this time, many of the proposed protocols have disappeared. I am looking for one that has a linux or sample implementation. Suggestions? Cheers, Ken =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3DEBC.D56A203C Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am looking for a routing protocol for a fixed = 802.11 wireless mesh network. As of this time, many of the proposed protocols have = disappeared. I am looking for one that has a linux or sample implementation. = Suggestions?

Cheers,

Ken

 

=00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3DEBC.D56A203C-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 20 11:49:53 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA11865 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:49:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aiz47-0000FF-T5 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:49:25 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0KGnN2E000934 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:49:23 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aiz47-0000Ey-NO for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:49:23 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA11821 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:49:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aiz46-0005JV-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:49:22 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Aiz38-0005FH-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:48:22 -0500 Received: from [65.246.255.50] (helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aiz2B-0005Ah-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:47:23 -0500 Received: from optimus22.ietf.org ([132.151.6.22] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by mx2.foretec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Aiz2B-0005El-I2 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:47:23 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aiz1o-0008O2-Ie; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:47:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aiz1F-0008NT-KS for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:46:25 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA11657 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:46:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aiz1E-00056O-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:46:24 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Aiz0K-00053g-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:45:29 -0500 Received: from snickers.hotpop.com ([38.113.3.51]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aiyzc-0004yK-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:44:44 -0500 Received: from gamebox.net (kubrick.hotpop.com [38.113.3.103]) by snickers.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FD0371723 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TM (unknown [202.88.38.97]) by smtp-3.hotpop.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC547C0D4DB for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <007701c3e03d$bb3a4190$612658ca@TM> Reply-To: "Ather" From: "Ather" To: References: <200401161227.37101.jtoung@arc.nasa.gov> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:56:38 +0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0120_01C3E004.DC9FFF70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Subject: [manet] Help needed Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,DATE_IN_FUTURE_12_24, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0120_01C3E004.DC9FFF70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello!! I am just a newbe to this Technology i.e. MANETs Actually I will be submitting a Thesis on MANETs by the end of this year = in my university so can you people please guide me how to start from the basics i mean = some good websites or some tutorials you know.. this is my project title "An OPNET Module Implementation for Ad-hoc On Demand Distance Vector = Routing Protocol" I hope you people won't mind helping me out thanks in advance Ather ------=_NextPart_000_0120_01C3E004.DC9FFF70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello!!
I am just a newbe to this Technology = i.e.=20 MANETs
Actually I will be submitting a Thesis = on MANETs by=20 the end of this year in my university
so can you people please guide me how = to start from=20 the basics i mean some good websites or some tutorials
you know..
this is my project title
"An OPNET=20 Module Implementation for Ad-hoc On Demand Distance Vector Routing=20 Protocol"
I = hope you=20 people won't mind helping me out
thanks in=20 advance
Ather
------=_NextPart_000_0120_01C3E004.DC9FFF70-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 20 12:04:01 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA12649 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:04:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AizHo-0001dn-0Z for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:03:33 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0KH3Vkt006306 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:03:31 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AizHn-0001dd-M7 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:03:31 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA12630 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:03:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AizHm-0006L2-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:03:30 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AizGq-0006HI-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:02:33 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AizGD-0006ES-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:01:53 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AizFZ-00014F-OE; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:01:13 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AizEu-0000t7-NA for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:00:32 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA12516 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:00:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AizEt-00068e-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:00:31 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AizDx-00064e-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:59:34 -0500 Received: from [65.246.255.50] (helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AizCz-00061G-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:58:33 -0500 Received: from davinci.coe.neu.edu ([129.10.32.95]) by mx2.foretec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AizCz-0005pR-P6 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:58:33 -0500 Received: from Wright.coe.neu.edu (Wright.coe.neu.edu [129.10.32.88]) by DaVinci.coe.neu.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i0KGrPCh024361; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:53:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from 00065B2F3DE2 [129.10.65.93]) by Wright.coe.neu.edu (SAVSMTP 3.1.0.29) with SMTP id M2004012011532402813 ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:53:25 -0500 Message-ID: <004601c3df75$f4cf2650$5d410a81@00065B2F3DE2> From: "Z. Maria Wang" To: "Ather" , References: <200401161227.37101.jtoung@arc.nasa.gov> <007701c3e03d$bb3a4190$612658ca@TM> Subject: Re: [manet] Help needed Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:53:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01C3DF4C.0BE6CED0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C3DF4C.0BE6CED0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, See if this may help. http://www.cwc.oulu.fi/~hernia/linkit.html http://moment.cs.ucsb.edu/AODV/aodv.html#MailingList ZM ----- Zheng Maria Wang Ph.D. Candidate Mechanical, Industrial and Manufacturing Engineering Department 354 Snell Engineering Center Northeaster University Boston, 02115 MA Tel: (617)373-5340 Fax: (617)373-2921 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ather=20 To: manet@ietf.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 11:56 PM Subject: [manet] Help needed Hello!! I am just a newbe to this Technology i.e. MANETs Actually I will be submitting a Thesis on MANETs by the end of this = year in my university so can you people please guide me how to start from the basics i mean = some good websites or some tutorials you know.. this is my project title "An OPNET Module Implementation for Ad-hoc On Demand Distance Vector = Routing Protocol" I hope you people won't mind helping me out thanks in advance Ather ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C3DF4C.0BE6CED0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
See if this may help.
 
http://www.cwc.oulu.f= i/~hernia/linkit.html
http://mome= nt.cs.ucsb.edu/AODV/aodv.html#MailingList
 
ZM
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Zheng Maria Wang
Ph.D. Candidate
Mechanical, = Industrial and=20 Manufacturing Engineering Department
354 Snell Engineering=20 Center
Northeaster University
Boston, 02115 MA
Tel:=20 (617)373-5340
Fax: (617)373-2921
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ather=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 = 11:56=20 PM
Subject: [manet] Help = needed

Hello!!
I am just a newbe to this Technology = i.e.=20 MANETs
Actually I will be submitting a = Thesis on MANETs=20 by the end of this year in my university
so can you people please guide me how = to start=20 from the basics i mean some good websites or some = tutorials
you know..
this is my project title
"An OPNET=20 Module Implementation for Ad-hoc On Demand Distance Vector Routing=20 Protocol"
I hope you=20 people won't mind helping me out
thanks in=20 advance
Ather
------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C3DF4C.0BE6CED0-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 20 18:04:05 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA29614 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:04:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aj4uI-0000Jv-RF for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:03:39 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0KN3cgp001225 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:03:38 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aj4uI-0000Je-Lk for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:03:38 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA29606 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:03:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aj4uF-00041z-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:03:35 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Aj4tJ-0003zR-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:02:38 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aj4sx-0003xV-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:02:15 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aj4sk-0008Sf-41; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:02:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aj4sU-0008R6-9I for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:01:46 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA29555 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:01:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aj4sQ-0003wg-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:01:42 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Aj4rU-0003tZ-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:00:45 -0500 Received: from pony1pub.arc.nasa.gov ([128.102.31.41]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aj4qm-0003me-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:00:00 -0500 Received: from nren-194.arc.nasa.gov ([128.102.196.194] verified) by pony1pub.arc.nasa.gov (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 6728410; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 14:59:22 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Jerry Toung Reply-To: jtoung@arc.nasa.gov To: manet@ietf.org Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 14:56:25 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 Cc: Dave Maltz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200401201456.25485.jtoung@arc.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [manet] DSR and route error Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good afternnon, let us assume the following nodes and that they operate with 802.11 compa= tible=20 cards. =09C A-----B--------D-------E-----F the source route from A to F is B,D,E. Now, during route maintenance E=20 discovers that F is gone, E needs to send an Route Error back to A. My understanding is that route errors are ALWAYS routed back to the sourc= e=20 node using source route. In our case E will use source route D,B. Am I=20 correct? Thank a lot, Jerry _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 20 20:52:16 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA06063 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:52:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aj7Wx-0007pN-9g for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:51:48 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0L1phs3030086 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:51:43 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aj7Wx-0007pB-69 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:51:43 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA06048 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aj7Wu-0005YJ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:51:40 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Aj7Vz-0005Vs-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:50:43 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aj7VT-0005U5-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:50:11 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aj7VL-0007YB-Cg; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:50:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aj7V2-0007XI-F6 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:49:44 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA06025 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:49:42 -0500 (EST) From: stuss@i2r.a-star.edu.sg Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aj7V0-0005TW-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:49:42 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Aj7U6-0005Rz-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:48:46 -0500 Received: from rodin.i2r.a-star.edu.sg ([192.122.139.27] helo=i2r.a-star.edu.sg) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aj7Th-0005Pv-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:48:21 -0500 Received: from newmailhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by i2r.a-star.edu.sg (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0L1m5Gn012595 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:48:05 +0800 (SGT) Received: from i2r.a-star.edu.sg (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.lit.org.sg (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0HRT008QCH0EWI@mailhost.lit.org.sg> for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:48:14 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [192.168.152.121] by mailhost.lit.org.sg (mshttpd); Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:48:14 +0800 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:48:14 +0800 Subject: Re: [manet] DSR and route error To: jtoung@arc.nasa.gov Cc: manet@ietf.org, Dave Maltz Message-id: <28f7f0292c61.292c6128f7f0@i2r.a-star.edu.sg> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002) Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_kPArbheMKaFYOKlGPAkhiw)" Content-language: en X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_kPArbheMKaFYOKlGPAkhiw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT yes Jerry, its always better to send back RERR on the source route itself as otherwise there are concerns about overflodding the network with RERRs -sourabh ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Toung Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 6:56 am Subject: [manet] DSR and route error > Good afternnon, > let us assume the following nodes and that they operate with 802.11 > compatible > cards. > > C > > A-----B--------D-------E-----F > > the source route from A to F is B,D,E. Now, during route > maintenance E > discovers that F is gone, E needs to send an Route Error back to A. > My understanding is that route errors are ALWAYS routed back to the > source > node using source route. In our case E will use source route D,B. > Am I > correct? > > Thank a lot, > Jerry > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > --Boundary_(ID_kPArbheMKaFYOKlGPAkhiw) Content-type: text/x-vcard; name=stuss.vcf; charset=windows-1252 Content-disposition: attachment; filename=stuss.vcf Content-description: Card for Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT begin:vcard n:Sharma;Sourabh fn:Sourabh Sharma tel;work:+65-6874 6643 url:www.comp.nus.edu.sg/~sourabhs org:Ad Hoc Networking Group; adr:;;Institute for InfoComm Research;;;119613;Singapore version:2.1 email;internet:stuss@i2r.a-star.edu.sg title:Research Student end:vcard --Boundary_(ID_kPArbheMKaFYOKlGPAkhiw)-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 21 08:21:31 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA19415 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:21:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjII2-0000In-G9 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:21:02 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0LDL2hB001160 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:21:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjII1-0000IK-Oo for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:21:01 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA19402 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:21:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIHv-00041R-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:20:55 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIDC-0003lp-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:16:03 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIAn-0003Wl-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:13:33 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjIAI-00088q-6b; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:13:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjI9N-00082b-Vz for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:12:05 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA19094 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:11:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjI9D-0003QM-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:11:55 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjI5p-0003E5-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:08:27 -0500 Received: from [202.179.135.10] (helo=ciit.net.pk) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjI3N-00033d-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:05:54 -0500 Received: from WorldClient [127.0.0.1] by ciit.net.pk [202.179.135.10] with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v5.0.1.R) for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:06:30 +0500 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:06:30 +0500 From: "Usman" To: manet@ietf.org X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.1 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: usman@ciit.net.pk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: manet@ietf.org Message-Id: Subject: [manet] Adhoc Routing in OPNET Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 hi! can anybody help me out about implementing Adhoc Routing in OPNET, im new to OPNET. Thanx in Advance Regards. Usman _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 21 08:42:38 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA20370 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:42:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjIcU-00020E-Bw for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:42:10 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0LDgAui007692 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:42:10 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjIcU-0001zz-7v for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:42:10 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA20345 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIcS-0005Fv-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:42:09 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIbb-0005By-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:41:15 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIag-000575-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:40:18 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjIaT-0001gC-Qy; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:40:05 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjIZq-0001eS-Mx for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:39:26 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA20215 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:39:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIZd-00051e-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:39:13 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIYl-0004xb-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:38:19 -0500 Received: from law11-f42.law11.hotmail.com ([64.4.17.42] helo=hotmail.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIXz-0004pQ-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:37:31 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:36:35 -0800 Received: from 129.173.61.70 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:36:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [129.173.61.70] X-Originating-Email: [aslam_nauman@hotmail.com] X-Sender: aslam_nauman@hotmail.com From: "Nauman Aslam" To: manet@ietf.org Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:36:35 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2004 13:36:35.0386 (UTC) FILETIME=[96BB99A0:01C3E023] Subject: [manet] OLSR implementation in OPNET Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET,MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.60
Hi All,
 
I want to implement OLSR in OPNET 9.1. Does any body know where to get the related models .
 
Thanks
 
NAUMAN
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MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 21 08:45:36 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA20501 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:45:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjIfJ-0002Kg-CC for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:45:07 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0LDj5uD008960 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:45:05 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjIfJ-0002KR-7n for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:45:05 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA20469 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:45:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIfH-0005Rn-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:45:03 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIeK-0005O9-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:44:04 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIdO-0005KX-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:43:06 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjIdK-00021i-Kg; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:43:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjIcZ-00020V-La for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:42:15 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA20355 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:42:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIcY-0005Gl-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:42:14 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIbj-0005DG-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:41:24 -0500 Received: from smtp.nile-online.net ([62.140.73.240] helo=webshielde500.nile-online.net) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIb9-00056e-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:40:47 -0500 Received: from unknown(62.140.64.219) by webshielde500.nile-online.net via csmap id 19655; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:47:27 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <000f01c3e024$170ae3e0$db408c3e@mkamel> From: "M. Kamel" To: References: Subject: Re: [manet] Adhoc Routing in OPNET Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:40:08 +0200 Organization: American University in Cairo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear usman, You can find ad hoc routing OPNET implementations in the following sites: AODV implementation: http://w3.antd.nist.gov/wctg/manet/prd_aodvfiles.html DSR implementation: http://w3.antd.nist.gov/wctg/prd_dsrfiles.html Regards, Mohammed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Usman" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:06 PM Subject: [manet] Adhoc Routing in OPNET > hi! > > can anybody help me out about implementing Adhoc Routing in OPNET, im > new to OPNET. > > Thanx in Advance > > Regards. > > Usman > > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 21 09:05:41 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA21111 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjIym-0003fM-HI for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:05:13 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0LE5CWI014090 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:05:12 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjIym-0003fB-Bp for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:05:12 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA21072 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:05:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIyk-0006MJ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:05:10 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIxk-0006If-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:04:09 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIwq-0006GI-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:03:12 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjIwf-0003L5-Ga; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:03:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjIvl-0003Jf-4k for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:02:05 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA21005 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:02:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIvj-0006Ci-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:02:03 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIuo-0006Ay-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:01:07 -0500 Received: from patty.levels.unisa.edu.au ([130.220.36.156]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjIu3-00068r-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:00:19 -0500 Received: from server1 (server1 [172.17.0.2]) by patty.levels.unisa.edu.au (8.12.10/8.12.2) with SMTP id i0LE00RW016827; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:30:00 +1030 (CST) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:30:00 +1030 (CST) From: Peter Pham To: "M. Kamel" cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] Adhoc Routing in OPNET In-Reply-To: <000f01c3e024$170ae3e0$db408c3e@mkamel> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Hi These implementations are outdated. If you have OPNET 9.1+ you should have DSR, AODV already implemented in the Modeller. You can use there example. Alternatively, you use the OPNET version on the contributed model section on OPNET website. Best Regards. Peter Phuc Pham ========================================== The University of South Australia Institute for Telecommunications Research Mawson Lakes Campus SA5095 Office: 08-83025188 Fax : 08-83023873 Email : ppham@spri.levels.unisa.edu.au WWW : http://www.itr.unisa.edu.au/~ppham ========================================== On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, M. Kamel wrote: > Dear usman, > You can find ad hoc routing OPNET implementations in the following sites: > > AODV implementation: > http://w3.antd.nist.gov/wctg/manet/prd_aodvfiles.html > > DSR implementation: > http://w3.antd.nist.gov/wctg/prd_dsrfiles.html > > Regards, > Mohammed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Usman" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:06 PM > Subject: [manet] Adhoc Routing in OPNET > > > > hi! > > > > can anybody help me out about implementing Adhoc Routing in OPNET, im > > new to OPNET. > > > > Thanx in Advance > > > > Regards. > > > > Usman > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > manet mailing list > > manet@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 21 13:44:44 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA03018 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:44:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjNKq-0003GD-3d for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:44:16 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0LIiGu9012525 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:44:16 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjNKp-0003Fw-TI for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:44:15 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA02987 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:44:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjNKn-0003tx-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:44:13 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjNJt-0003rf-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:43:18 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjNJ1-0003pr-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:42:23 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjNIg-0002qA-3o; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:42:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjNHw-0002pN-8Y for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:41:16 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA02903 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:41:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjNHu-0003mF-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:41:14 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjNH1-0003kI-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:40:20 -0500 Received: from bareed3.maktoob.net ([195.172.126.104] helo=maktoobchat.net) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjNGE-0003i4-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:39:30 -0500 Received: from [195.172.126.106] (HELO maktoobchat.net) by maktoobchat.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP id 11359966 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:41:58 +0000 Received: from [195.172.126.110] (HELO maktoob.com) by maktoobchat.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP id 12538712 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:31:34 +0000 From: "yazeed al-sbou" To: manet@ietf.org Comment: Maktoob By BOC X-Mailer: Maktoob 2.0 [Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; .NET CLR 1.0.3705; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)] X-Originating-IP: [143.52.2.45] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:31:34 +0000 Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [manet] Help Needed Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi dear all... 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Where can I get the source code? Thanks. Jack _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Jan 22 01:53:11 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA28394 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:53:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjYhj-0004G8-QL for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:52:43 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0M6qdI2016369 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:52:39 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjYhj-0004Fw-LA for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:52:39 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA28380 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:52:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjYhg-0003Of-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:52:36 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjYgl-0003Mc-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:51:39 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjYgK-0003Kv-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:51:12 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjYgA-0003xA-B4; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:51:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjYfl-0003wK-Eo for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:50:37 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA28356 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:50:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjYfi-0003Ji-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:50:34 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjYel-0003IZ-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:49:36 -0500 Received: from [203.197.196.2] (helo=mail2.iitk.ac.in) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjYe7-0003Fx-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:48:56 -0500 Received: from antivirus.cc.iitk.ac.in (antivirus.cc.iitk.ac.in [172.31.1.102]) by mail2.iitk.ac.in (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id i0M7Gc61014323 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:46:40 +0530 Received: from mailhost.cse.iitk.ac.in ([172.27.16.2]) by antivirus.cc.iitk.ac.in (NAVGW 2.5.2.12) with SMTP id M2004012212183205114 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:18:32 +0530 Received: from ashish (cseguest3.cse.iitk.ac.in [172.27.22.3]) by mailhost.cse.iitk.ac.in (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id i0M6sTuf004473 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:24:30 +0530 Message-ID: <01ce01c3e0b4$458931a0$03161bac@ashish> From: "Ashish Pandey" To: References: <20040121170006.16732.99061.Mailman@www1.ietf.org> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:22:16 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [manet] problem in installing orinoco card Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi from last few days i'm trying to install orinoco 802.11b pci gold card on my desktop...it's working fine in windows environment but when i try to install it in linux environment it gives error at the time running build script....i tried to do it through installing new pcmcia package but still showing same problem ...so can anybody help me to installing that on linux environment....on the other hand its working fine in my laptop in both linux and windows environment.. thanx in advance.. Ashish ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ashish Pandey Department of Computer Science, Indian Institute of Technology Kanpur - 208016, INDIA _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Jan 22 03:04:12 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA12738 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:04:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjZoX-0007mg-9Z for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:03:45 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0M83jHe029922 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:03:45 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjZoW-0007mW-Tm for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:03:44 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA12732 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:03:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjZoT-0005Ti-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:03:41 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjZnU-0005RP-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:02:41 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjZmx-0005Pu-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:02:07 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjZmr-0007Ns-W0; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:02:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjZmV-0007NC-MN for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:01:39 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA12707 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:01:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjZmR-0005PB-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:01:35 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjZlT-0005Ny-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:00:35 -0500 Received: from pat.uio.no ([129.240.130.16] ident=7411) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjZkV-0005MW-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 02:59:35 -0500 Received: from mail-mx6.uio.no ([129.240.10.47]) by pat.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjZkS-00029n-9m; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:59:32 +0100 Received: from niu.ifi.uio.no ([129.240.65.209]) by mail-mx6.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1AjZkO-00017W-GB; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:59:28 +0100 Received: from localhost (andreto@localhost) by niu.ifi.uio.no ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:59:25 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:59:24 +0100 (MET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_T=F8nnesen?= To: Ashish Pandey cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] problem in installing orinoco card In-Reply-To: <01ce01c3e0b4$458931a0$03161bac@ashish> Message-ID: References: <20040121170006.16732.99061.Mailman@www1.ietf.org> <01ce01c3e0b4$458931a0$03161bac@ashish> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-MailScanner-Information: This message has been scanned for viruses/spam. Contact postmaster@uio.no if you have questions about this scanning X-UiO-MailScanner: No virus found X-UiO-Spam-info: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=0, required 12) Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE This probably belongs in some linux mailing list... but here goes: You are sure that you do not have the orinoco module compiled for your kernel already? locate orinoco_cs.o | grep `uname -r` Do you have all tools required to build the pcmcia-cs package(as listed in the documentation)? If you still get errors my advice would be to rebuild your kernel with support for the orinoco PCMCIA card. Or else most distros have prebuildt pcmcia packages for their "standard" kernels avalible. Depending on your distro a: "apt-cache search pcmcia", "emerge search pcmcia", "urpmf pcmcia".... and so on - should list the avalible packages. If you still can't get it to work pleas post on som linux/WLAN oriented mailinglist/fora like: http://lists.linux-wlan.com/ Andreas T (PS: new uOLSR webpage - http://www.olsr.org) On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Ashish Pandey wrote: > Hi > > from last few days i'm trying to install orinoco 802.11b pci gold card on= my > desktop...it's working fine in windows environment but when i try to inst= all > it in linux environment it gives error at the time running build script..= =2E.i > tried to do it through installing new pcmcia package but still showing sa= me > problem ...so can anybody help me to installing that on linux > environment....on the other hand its working fine in my laptop in both li= nux > and windows environment.. > > thanx in advance.. > > Ashish > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ashish Pandey > Department of Computer Science, > Indian Institute of Technology > Kanpur - 208016, INDIA > > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > Andreas T=F8nnesen(andreas@olsr.org) UniK University Graduation Center University of Oslo http://www.olsr.org _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Jan 22 14:12:50 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA05201 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:12:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjkFa-0001tU-RR for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:12:22 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0MJCMkR007274 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:12:22 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjkFa-0001tF-Mp for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:12:22 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA05191 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:12:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjkFT-0005kK-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:12:15 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjkBg-0005Zh-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:08:21 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjkA3-0005TV-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:06:39 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ajk9T-00018b-8q; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:06:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ajk93-00017Y-HN for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:05:37 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA05043 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:05:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ajk8r-0005RF-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:05:25 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ajk76-0005OB-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0500 Received: from web21106.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.227.108]) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ajk61-0005MN-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:02:29 -0500 Message-ID: <20040122190127.99286.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.119.86.30] by web21106.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:01:27 PST Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:01:27 -0800 (PST) From: Vin To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [manet] AODV better route update mechanism Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Hi all. I need some help in tying some loose ends about AODV routing. 1)What exactly is the mechanism in AODV to take advantage of any newer better routes that exist compared to the original one formed through RREQ-RREP mechanism? ( consider an active path where the original route doesnt expire due to ACTIVE_ROUTE_TIMEOUT) To my knowledge, DSR overhears transmissions promiscously and if it finds a better route,updates its routing table. But AODV doesnt use this method. Thats why my question arises. 2) Also where does such a route update occur if its done? Can intermediate nodes do this or is it only restricted to source nodes? Thanks in advance, Vin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 23 02:49:43 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA17045 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:49:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ajw41-0008Eh-Hf for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:49:15 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0N7nDfD031660 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:49:13 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ajw41-0008EZ-1z for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:49:13 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA17028 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:49:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ajw3v-0002WT-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:49:07 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ajw2e-0002Hr-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:47:50 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ajw16-0001yJ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:46:12 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ajw0x-0007jt-Vg; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:46:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ajw0M-0007gM-98 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:45:27 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA16581 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:45:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ajw0I-0001qH-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:45:22 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjvzP-0001pT-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:44:27 -0500 Received: from reserv5.univ-lille1.fr ([193.49.225.19] ident=root) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ajvyo-0001om-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:43:50 -0500 Received: from malonne.lifl.fr (malonne.lifl.fr [134.206.10.29]) by reserv5.univ-lille1.fr (8.12.10/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id i0N7cOoT009759 ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:38:24 +0100 Received: from kriek (kriek.lifl.fr [134.206.11.16]) by malonne.lifl.fr with ESMTP id i0N7bab13425 ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:37:42 +0100 (MET) From: "David Simplot-Ryl" To: , Cc: , , , Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:34:55 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c3e183$823fcad0$afc1fea9@kriek> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-USTL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-USTL-MailScanner: Found to be clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [manet] Last CFP International Journal of Computers and Applications on 'System and Networking for Smart Objects' Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please accept our apologies in case you receive this information from multiple sources. ================================================================== Call for Papers IASTED International Journal of Computers and Applications (IJCA) Special Issue on 'System and Networking for Smart Objects' http://www.actapress.com/journals/specialca2.htm Purpose IASTED International Journal of Computers and Applications (IJCA), by ACTA Press, seeks articles for a special issue on System and Networking for Smart Objects, to appear in January 2005. The guest editors for this special issue are David Simplot-Ryl and Gilles Grimaud, University of Lille, France, and Jean-Jacques Vandewalle, Gemplus Systems Research Labs, France. The ubiquitous sudden increase of new networked devices and the fast proliferation of distributed computing involving all kinds of computing devices create a unique challenge. Innovative solutions are required for the development, implementation and operation of distributed applications in complex IT environments full of diversity and heterogeneity. The concept of 'smart object' is defined as the junction between miniaturization with the development of wireless communications. A large number of applications in daily life enriched can be imagined: from PDA networks to smart space, from wireless smartcard to smart fridges. Smart objects like smartcards, RFID tags, wireless sensors, smart dust, require suitable basic software which takes into account the specificity of smart objects: limited resources, transient communication links, mobile and untrusted environment, etc. These constraints impact in operating system design which represents a huge challenge for a great number of research activities. The goal of this special issue of the International Journal of Computers and Applications by ACTA Press, USA, is to publish original research and review articles in the domains of operating system and networking for smart devices given below. Areas of relevant interest we foresee (but not limited to) include: - Smart devices like smartcards, RFID tags, sensors and smart dusts - Embedded operating system dedicated to smart objects - Mobile and ad hoc networking protocols and service discovery - Design principles and techniques for smart embedded systems - Middleware services for deployment and management of smart objects - Security and safety issues of ubiquitous computing systems - Location-dependent / personalized applications - Wireless sensor networks and group management of sensor nodes Submission and timetable The submission deadline is February 20, 2004. Send papers as .pdf file to David.Simplot@lifl.fr. Papers must be written in English and must confine to a maximum of 18 pages (including abstract page, equations, tables, all figures, references, author biographies and photos (optional)) with double-line spacing per page. Clear fonts with 12-pt size must be used. All the pages shall be numbered. If there are any photographs to be included good quality printing must be used to aid referees to see the photographs clearly. Avoid coloring any graphs unless use of color shades is meant for any technical purposes. References shall be typed in a consistent format throughout and must be referenced in the order they appear. Manuscripts should strictly follow the guidelines of ACTA Press, given at the following website: http://www.actapress.com/journals/submission.htm Manuscript Submission: February 20, 2004 Acceptance Notification: June 20, 2004 Final Manuscript Due: September 1, 2004 Publication: January 2005 Guest co-editors David SIMPLOT-RYL IRCICA/LIFL, Univ. Lille 1, INRIA Futurs, France David.Simplot@lifl.fr Jean-Jacques VANDEWALLE Gemplus Systems Research Labs, France Jean-Jacques.Vandewalle@research.gemplus.com Gilles GRIMAUD IRCICA/LIFL, Univ. Lille 1, INRIA Futurs, France Gilles.Grimaud@lifl.fr _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 23 06:12:09 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA24417 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:12:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjzDz-0000Ag-0x for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:11:43 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0NBBgMR000654 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:11:43 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AjzDy-0000AT-Tz for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:11:42 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA24400 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:11:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AjzDq-00063j-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:11:34 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AjzBE-0005yk-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:08:53 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ajz90-0005u8-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:06:34 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ajz8V-0007OG-FQ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:06:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ajz85-0007MH-KY for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:05:45 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA24341 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:05:29 -0500 (EST) From: roth@ece.cornell.edu Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ajz7s-0005r1-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:05:25 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ajz4H-0005nA-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:01:41 -0500 Received: from gehenna.ece.cornell.edu ([128.84.95.235]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ajz3N-0005is-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:00:45 -0500 Received: from ece.cornell.edu (perdition.ece.cornell.edu [128.84.81.9]) by gehenna.ece.cornell.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id E41461E800B; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:00:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from 203.144.225.177 (SquirrelMail authenticated user roth) by webmail.ece.cornell.edu with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:00:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19069.203.144.225.177.1074855618.squirrel@webmail.ece.cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:00:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [manet] Stochastic routing To: In-Reply-To: <3807380.1074695408718.JavaMail.moez_gadri@gomailjtp05> References: <3807380.1074695408718.JavaMail.moez_gadri@gomailjtp05> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Cc: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Moez, Take a look at my paper on a biologically inspired MANET routing algorithm. You can find the paper at:=20 http://wisl.ece.cornell.edu/roth/research/Termite_MedHoc2003.pdf. It is a probabalistic routing algorithm. There are a list of references at the en= d of the paper. E-mail me directly if you want to discuss this more. Martin > Hello, > > I'm interested to Stochastic routing in MANET, so i search a > bibliography about this theme. I will be very thankful if any one send > to me an URL or some documentation. > > ___________________________________________________ > Check-out GO.com > GO get your free GO E-Mail account with expanded storage of 6 MB! > http://mail.go.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 23 18:53:28 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA03444 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:53:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkB6k-0000y6-Ps for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:53:02 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0NNr2E4003716 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:53:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkB6k-0000xr-Lz for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:53:02 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA03433 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:52:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkB6h-0006A3-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:52:59 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AkB5p-00068H-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:52:06 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkB53-00066P-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:51:17 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkB4p-0000fY-6h; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:51:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkB3r-0000cf-Aq for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:50:03 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA03335 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:49:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkB3l-00062H-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:49:57 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AkB2q-00060j-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:49:01 -0500 Received: from gehenna.ece.cornell.edu ([128.84.95.235]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkB2I-0005zQ-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:48:26 -0500 Received: from Panacea_2.cornell.edu (dhcp-128-84-210-142-r3a-desktop.ece.cornell.edu [128.84.210.142]) by gehenna.ece.cornell.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285FE1E800B; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:48:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20040123183216.01bf2e30@postoffice7.mail.cornell.edu> X-Sender: papadp@pop.ece.cornell.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:48:19 -0500 To: manet@ietf.org From: Panos Papadimitratos Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [manet] CfP: 1st European Workshop on Security in Ad-Hoc and Sensor Networks (ESAS 2004) Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.60 CALL FOR PAPERS 1st European Workshop on Security in Ad-Hoc and Sensor Networks (ESAS 2004) 5-6 August, 2004 EURESCOM, Heidelberg, Germany http://www.netlab.nec.de/esas/esas2004.html Technically co-sponsored by COMSOC Germany Chapter ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GENERAL INFORMATION With more and more devices getting smart and interconnected, ad hoc and sensor networks will open up a realm of new communication and data exchange opportunities. These upcoming networks are characterized by their dynamic structure, lack of a pre-established fixed infrastructure, and constrained resources. In order to allow their successful deployment, various security challenges must be met. Examples include missing `a priori' security associations, no clear line of defense, the lack of a trusted infrastructure, complex multiple domain relationships, as well as bandwidth, computing, memory and energy constraints. Due to the pervasive nature of applications relying on ad-hoc and sensor networks effective provisions for robust security solutions in a reliable and power efficient way must be taken. This workshop seeks submissions presenting novel research on all aspects of security and cryptography for ad-hoc and sensor networks. ESAS 2004 will be a workshop where the cryptography, security and wireless networking communities meet. Submission of papers based on work-in-progress is encouraged. The topics include but are not limited to: * Cryptographic protocols * Trust establishment, negotiation, and management * Security in constrained environments * Cooperation and fairness based protocols * Key management * Scalability evaluation of secure and reliable protocols * Secure routing * Secure hardware modules * Implementations of secure protocols * Deployment of secure protocols * Privacy and anonymity * Secure MAC protocols INSTRUCTIONS FOR AUTHORS Authors are invited to submit original papers. The preferred submission form is by electronic mail to Claude.Castelluccia@inrialpes.fr. The submissions must not exceed 10 pages (excluding the title page, bibliography and appendices) nor 12 pages overall. The final version should not exceed 15 pages. Please submit the paper in Postscript or PDF, together with an extra file containing the email and physical address of the authors, an indication of the corresponding author and a copy of the title, key words and abstract. We recommend that you generate the PS or PDF file using LaTeX and the LNCS style available at www.springer.de/comp/lncs. All submissions will be refereed. Submissions must not substantially duplicate work that any of the authors have published elsewhere or have submitted in parallel. The workshop will also include a poster and demonstrator session. Submissions will include a 2-page summary as well as a rough draft of the poster. IMPORTANT DATES Submission Deadline: 15th March, 2004 Acceptance Notifications: 30th April, 2004 Final Version due: 1st June, 2004 Workshop: 5th-6th August, 2004 Proceedings Version Deadline: 6th September, 2004 MAILING LIST If you want to receive subsequent Call for Papers and registration information, please send a brief mail to majordomo@netlab.nec.de and in the mail body write "subscribe esasworkshop". REGISTRATION Registration is available now! (http://www.eurescom.de/Public/Events/2004/ESAS_2004/esas_2004_registration.asp) All sessions will be held at EURESCOM (http://www.eurescom.de). WORKSHOP ORGANIZERS Claude Castelluccia, INRIA, France (Claude.Castelluccia@inrialpes.fr) Hannes Hartenstein, University of Karlsruhe, Germany (hannes.hartenstein@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) Christof Paar, University of Bochum, Germany (cpaar@crypto-ruhr-uni-bochum.de) Dirk Westhoff, NEC Network Labs Heidelberg, Germany (dirk.westhoff@netlab.nec.de) PROGRAM COMMITTEE N. Asokan, Nokia, Finland Levente Buttyan, BME-HIT, Hungary Sonja Buchegger, EPFL, Switzerland Claude Castelluccia, INRIA, France Claudia Eckert, TU Darmstadt, Germany Hannes Hartenstein, University of Karlsruhe, Germany Stefan Lucks, University of Mannheim, Germany Refik Molva, Eurecom, France Gabriel Montenegro, SunLabs, France Pekka Nikander, Ericsson, Finland Christof Paar, University of Bochum, Germany Panagiotis Papadimitratos, Cornell University, USA Frank Stajano, University of Cambridge, UK Gene Tsudik, UC Irvine, USA Andre Weimerskirch, University of Bochum, Germany Nathalie Weiler, ETH Zuerich, Switzerland Dirk Westhoff, NEC Europe Ltd., Germany Susanne Wetzel, Stevens Institute of Technology, USA Manel Guerrero Zapata, University Pompeu Fabra, Barcelona, Spain WORKSHOP PROCEEDINGS The Proceedings will be published by Springer after the Workshop in the Lecture Notes in Computer Science (LNCS) Series (www.springer.de/comp/lncs). 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I will be very grateful for your help Regards Marcin Gawlinski _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Sat Jan 24 06:21:05 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA05128 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 06:21:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkLqB-0005XF-H5 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 06:20:39 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0OBKdI8021271 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 06:20:39 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkLqB-0005X0-Ci for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 06:20:39 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA04988 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 06:20:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkLq7-000196-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 06:20:35 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AkLoS-0000pX-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 06:18:52 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkLmq-0000V2-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 06:17:12 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkLmm-0004xW-Su; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 06:17:08 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkLmR-0004sx-9D for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 06:16:47 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA04468 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 06:16:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkLmN-0000PE-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 06:16:43 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AkLkW-00008D-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 06:14:49 -0500 Received: from eri.interia.pl ([217.74.65.138]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkLiO-0007fh-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 06:12:36 -0500 Received: from poczta.interia.pl (naos.interia.pl [217.74.65.50]) by eri.interia.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9B526241 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 12:12:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (naos.interia.pl [127.0.0.1]) by system.wewnetrzny9 (poczta.interia.pl) with SMTP id BF714146CA4 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 12:12:34 +0100 (CET) Received: by poczta.interia.pl (poczta.interia.pl, from userid 502) id 58825146CDB; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 12:12:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from gawlin (unknown [195.116.22.194]) by poczta.fm (poczta.fm) with ESMTP id D4DA5AF579 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 12:12:33 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <005301c3e26b$334a6f00$8b000b0a@gawlin> From: "gawlin" To: Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 12:14:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [manet] WPA Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello I'm looking for WPA specification, or some papers which describe it in details. I will be very grateful for your help Regards Marcin Gawlinski _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Sat Jan 24 07:32:54 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA07218 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:32:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkMxd-0008SH-Es for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:32:25 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0OCWP0E032495 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:32:25 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkMxd-0008S2-AX for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:32:25 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA07212 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:32:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkMxc-0004H4-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:32:24 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AkMwk-0004Er-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:31:31 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkMwY-0004Cq-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:31:18 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkMwK-00089K-19; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:31:04 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkMvk-00088N-GD for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:30:28 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA07158 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:30:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkMvj-0004Bf-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:30:27 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AkMur-00049I-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:29:33 -0500 Received: from in02-fes2.whowhere.com ([209.202.220.219] helo=whowhere.com) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkMuN-00046G-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:29:03 -0500 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by whowhere.com; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 12:28:25 -0000 To: manet@ietf.org Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:28:25 +0100 From: "wafa ber" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: oifa@eudoramail.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service X-Priority: 3 X-Sender-Ip: 193.95.33.18 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://www.mail.eudoramail.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [manet] Asking for help about IEEE 802.11e Draft Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello; I am intresting on the IEEE 802.11e, please could some one give me the draft text, any version. Something else, did some one have a good idea about 802.11e and could tell me some about its limitations supporting QoS. My object is to support hard real time traffic on 802.11e. Best regards :-) wafa Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Sat Jan 24 07:51:53 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA07590 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkNG0-0000zW-TH for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:51:25 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0OCpOvJ003804 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:51:24 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkNG0-0000zH-Pc for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:51:24 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA07577 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:51:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkNFz-00052Q-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:51:24 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AkNF5-0004zy-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:50:27 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkNEq-0004yA-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:50:12 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkNEh-0000ho-6J; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:50:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkNE2-0000gw-R5 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:49:22 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA07537 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:49:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkNE2-0004wX-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:49:22 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AkND8-0004ug-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:48:26 -0500 Received: from [202.179.135.10] (helo=ciit.net.pk) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AkNCH-0004sX-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 07:47:33 -0500 Received: from WorldClient [127.0.0.1] by ciit.net.pk [202.179.135.10] with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v5.0.1.R) for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:53:31 +0500 Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:53:31 +0500 From: "Usman" To: "wafa ber" CC: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] Asking for help about IEEE 802.11e Draft X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.1 In-Reply-To: X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: usman@ciit.net.pk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: manet@ietf.org Message-Id: Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 hi These links may be of some help to you. ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.mnlab.cs.depaul.edu/seminar/fall2003/802-11e.pdf http://www.xtremespectrum.com/PDF/802.11eVs802.15.3.pdf http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~dqiao/papers/itc18.pdf regards. ------------------- M. Usman Saleem R&D COMSATS IT Center, CIIT ATD, PK. ------------------- -----Original Message----- From: "wafa ber" To: manet@ietf.org Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:28:25 +0100 Subject: [manet] Asking for help about IEEE 802.11e Draft > Hello; > I am intresting on the IEEE 802.11e, please could some one give me the > draft text, any version. Something else, did some one have a good idea > about 802.11e and could tell me some about its limitations supporting > QoS. My object is to support hard real time traffic on 802.11e. > Best regards :-) > wafa > > > > Need a new email address that people can remember > Check out the new EudoraMail at > http://www.eudoramail.com > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 27 02:03:10 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA12832 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 02:03:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlNFC-0004f4-0Q for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 02:02:42 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0R72f75017916 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 02:02:41 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlNFB-0004em-9L for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 02:02:41 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA12219 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 02:02:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlNF7-0003N8-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 02:02:37 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlNEB-0003IV-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 02:01:40 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlNDK-0003Ea-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 02:00:46 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlNCf-0003kW-KP; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 02:00:05 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlNC9-0003jS-R7 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:59:33 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA09163 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:59:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlNC6-00039o-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:59:30 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlNBA-000386-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:58:32 -0500 Received: from bay1-dav43.bay1.hotmail.com ([65.54.244.15] helo=hotmail.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlNAy-000367-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:58:20 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:57:51 -0800 Received: from 216.209.64.89 by bay1-dav43.bay1.hotmail.com with DAV; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 06:57:51 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [216.209.64.89] X-Originating-Email: [jack_sci03@hotmail.com] X-Sender: jack_sci03@hotmail.com From: "Jack Chan's Hotmail Account" To: Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:57:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C3E478.F34994C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2004 06:57:51.0298 (UTC) FILETIME=[E157FA20:01C3E4A2] Subject: [manet] How to measure Throughput, Transmission Delay and Drop Ratio Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS,HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C3E478.F34994C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I need some help. I have a wireless testbed composed of 3 laptops equipped with = 802.11b WLAN and running Red Hat Linux 9.0 OS. Later, I will d/l DSR and = AODV implementation into this testbed. How can I measure the throughput, = transmission delay, drop ratio while during testing? Is there any = program that I can install for gathering all these data? My 2nd question, is there any good test case (any reference from = website) that I can perform to simulate actual "at work" situation of = ad-hoc network? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jack Chan=20 Queen's University ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C3E478.F34994C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi I need some help.
 
    I have a wireless = testbed=20 composed of 3 laptops equipped with 802.11b WLAN and running Red Hat = Linux 9.0=20 OS. Later, I will d/l DSR and AODV implementation into this testbed. How = can I=20 measure the throughput, transmission delay, drop ratio while during = testing? Is=20 there any program that I can install for gathering all these = data?
 
My 2nd question, is there any good test = case (any=20 reference from website) that I can perform to simulate actual "at work"=20 situation of ad-hoc network?
 
Any help would be greatly = appreciated.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C3E478.F34994C0-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 27 03:44:11 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA25234 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 03:44:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlOow-0001V3-E2 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 03:43:43 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0R8hgKB005764 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 03:43:42 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlOos-0001Ui-Hz for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 03:43:38 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA25224 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 03:43:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlOoq-0000PV-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 03:43:36 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlOnu-0000N2-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 03:42:39 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlOnU-0000KS-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 03:42:12 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlOnJ-0001D6-Ou; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 03:42:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlOmr-0001Aq-HE for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 03:41:33 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA25175 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 03:41:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlOmp-0000Id-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 03:41:31 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlOlt-0000FH-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 03:40:34 -0500 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.edu.au ([129.94.242.24] ident=root) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlOlG-0000Ce-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 03:39:54 -0500 Received: From 192.168.0.101 ([129.94.173.78] == sitcrc.cse.unsw.EDU.AU) (for ) (for ) By note With Smtp ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:39:35 +1100 From: Justin Lipman To: joan.martin@philips.com, manet@ietf.org Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:39:34 +1100 Reply-To: justin@titr.uow.edu.au Organization: CRC-SIT Subject: Re: [manet] Selective Acknowledgement User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401271939.34539.justin@titr.uow.edu.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Joan, I have a paper currently under review which addresses just this issue when performing flooding in ad hoc networks. I can send you the tech-report, if you are interested. regards, Justin -- Research Associate Smart Internet Technology Cooperative Research Centre http://www.titr.uow.edu.au/~justin On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 07:19 pm, joan.martin@philips.com wrote: > Hi, > > Does anybody know any literature about selective acknowledgement applied > to manet (802.11). Concretely, selective acknowledge in response to a > broadcast transmission. > > The IEEE 802.11 MAC specification does not allow acknowledging on > receiving a broadcast transmission. Therefore how could I design a > mechanism which ensures me that at least one neighboring node has received > the broadcast message (imagine a critical application, e.g. car accident > warning, in which you cannot permit a broadcast message "to be lost on the > air") > > Best regards, > Joan _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 27 04:35:05 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA26545 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:35:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlPcE-0004ok-2o for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:34:38 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0R9YcTI018512 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:34:38 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlPcD-0004oV-QU for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:34:37 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA26540 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:34:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlPcA-0002pI-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:34:34 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlPbF-0002mz-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:33:38 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlPaq-0002ks-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:33:12 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlPag-0004Zh-Cy; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:33:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlPaE-0004Z4-2e for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:32:34 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA26468 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:32:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlPaB-0002jR-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:32:31 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlPZE-0002go-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:31:32 -0500 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.edu.au ([129.94.242.24] ident=root) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlPYP-0002fI-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:30:41 -0500 Received: From 192.168.0.101 ([129.94.173.78] == sitcrc.cse.unsw.EDU.AU) (for ) By note With Smtp ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:30:41 +1100 From: Justin Lipman To: manet@ietf.org Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:30:40 +1100 Reply-To: justin@titr.uow.edu.au Organization: CRC-SIT Subject: Re: [manet] Selective Acknowledgement User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <200401271939.34539.justin@titr.uow.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <200401271939.34539.justin@titr.uow.edu.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401272030.40252.justin@titr.uow.edu.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Sorry I should clarify. My approach is related to more reliable flooding, not to modifications to IEEE 802.11 for reliable broadcasts. kind regards, Justin On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 07:39 pm, Justin Lipman wrote: > Hi Joan, > > I have a paper currently under review which addresses just this issue when > performing flooding in ad hoc networks. I can send you the tech-report, if > you are interested. > > regards, > Justin -- Research Associate Smart Internet Technology Cooperative Research Centre http://www.titr.uow.edu.au/~justin _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 27 05:03:17 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA27466 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:03:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlQ3V-0006xe-N1 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:02:50 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0RA2n2D026749 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:02:49 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlQ3T-0006xF-Mv for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:02:47 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA27462 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:02:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlQ3Q-0004SZ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:02:44 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlQ2U-0004P9-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:01:47 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlQ22-0004Li-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:01:18 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlQ1m-0006bs-Uh; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:01:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlQ1L-0006av-Q0 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:00:36 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA27418 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:00:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlQ1I-0004Kb-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:00:32 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlQ0M-0004It-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:59:35 -0500 Received: from concorde.inria.fr ([192.93.2.39]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlPzj-0004Eu-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:58:55 -0500 Received: from zephyrin (byzantium.inria.fr [128.93.17.6]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id i0R9wOP18302; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:58:25 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <013c01c3e4bc$457b5100$1f175d80@inria.fr> From: "Philippe Jacquet" To: , References: Subject: Re: [manet] Selective Acknowledgement Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:59:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0139_01C3E4C4.A6D362A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0139_01C3E4C4.A6D362A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The problem differs if you want to check that all neighbor receives the = broadcast or check that at least one neighbor receives it.=20 For the first problem, in HIPERLAN 1, long time ago, we proposed a = collision signal after each transmission. When a node receives a = corrupted packet it emits a collision signal burst just after the = packet. The signal is just energy and can aggregate with other signals. = When the broadcaster senses signal after its packet transmission, it = inferes collision and retransmits. =20 In IEEE 802.11 you can use the RTS CTS mechanism with broadcast. Of = course there are no CTS. Therefore if the broadcaster senses signal = after its RTS, then it just backoff transmission.=20 Philippe ----- Original Message -----=20 From: joan.martin@philips.com=20 To: manet@ietf.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 9:19 AM Subject: [manet] Selective Acknowledgement Hi,=20 Does anybody know any literature about selective acknowledgement = applied to manet (802.11). Concretely, selective acknowledge in response = to a broadcast transmission.=20 The IEEE 802.11 MAC specification does not allow acknowledging on = receiving a broadcast transmission. Therefore how could I design a = mechanism which ensures me that at least one neighboring node has = received the broadcast message (imagine a critical application, e.g. car = accident warning, in which you cannot permit a broadcast message "to be = lost on the air")=20 Best regards,=20 Joan ------=_NextPart_000_0139_01C3E4C4.A6D362A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The problem differs if you want to = check that all=20 neighbor receives the broadcast or check that at least one neighbor = receives it.=20
 
For the first problem, in HIPERLAN 1, = long time=20 ago, we proposed a collision signal after each transmission. When a = node=20 receives a corrupted packet it emits a collision signal burst just after = the=20 packet. The signal is just energy and can aggregate with other signals. = When the=20 broadcaster senses signal after its packet transmission, it inferes = collision=20 and retransmits.
 
In IEEE 802.11 you can use the RTS CTS = mechanism=20 with broadcast. Of course there are no CTS. Therefore if the broadcaster = senses=20 signal after its RTS, then it just backoff transmission.
 
Philippe
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 joan.martin@philips.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 = 9:19=20 AM
Subject: [manet] Selective=20 Acknowledgement


Hi, =

Does anybody know any literature about = selective=20 acknowledgement applied to manet (802.11). Concretely, selective = acknowledge=20 in response to a broadcast transmission.

The IEEE 802.11 MAC specification does not allow = acknowledging on=20 receiving a broadcast transmission. Therefore how could I design a = mechanism=20 which ensures me that at least one neighboring node has received the = broadcast=20 message (imagine a critical application, e.g. car accident warning, in = which=20 you cannot permit a broadcast message "to be lost on the air")=20

Best regards, =
Joan ------=_NextPart_000_0139_01C3E4C4.A6D362A0-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 27 05:42:05 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA28489 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:42:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlQf4-0000Ze-Dz for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:41:38 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0RAfc2t002200 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:41:38 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlQf4-0000ZP-AF for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:41:38 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA28474 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:41:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlQf0-0006Ey-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:41:34 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlQe4-0006CQ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:40:37 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlQdh-0006Ae-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:40:13 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlQdZ-0000LP-GL; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:40:05 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlQd6-0000Iv-Nn for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:39:36 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA28432 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:39:33 -0500 (EST) From: joan.martin@philips.com Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlQd3-00069n-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:39:33 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlQc4-00067n-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:38:33 -0500 Received: from gw-nl5.philips.com ([161.85.127.51] ident=postfix) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlQbd-00066V-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:38:05 -0500 Received: from smtpscan-nl3.philips.com (smtpscan-nl3.philips.com [130.139.36.23]) by gw-nl5.philips.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B312769CA; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:38:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtpscan-nl3.philips.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.philips.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D5B19C80; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:38:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtprelay-nl2.philips.com (smtprelay-eur2.philips.com [130.139.36.35]) by smtpscan-nl3.philips.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AEB619C85; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:36:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from hbg001soh.diamond.philips.com (e1soh01.diamond.philips.com [130.143.165.45]) by smtprelay-nl2.philips.com (8.9.3p3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id LAA12636; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:36:47 +0100 (MET) To: "Philippe Jacquet" Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] Selective Acknowledgement MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.9a January 7, 2002 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:28:55 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on hbg001soh/H/SERVER/PHILIPS(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at 27/01/2004 11:38:42, Serialize complete at 27/01/2004 11:38:42 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0039341FC1256E28_=" Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0039341FC1256E28_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" For my purpose I don't expect everybody to receive the broadcast. Therefore this solution doesn't match it. Morever, IEEE 802.11 doesn't allow RTS/CTS mechanism prior a brodcast transmission. As a consequence of this, modifications on the standard must be done and that's what I would like to avoid. Thanks anyway. Joan "Philippe Jacquet" 01/27/04 10:59 AM To: Joan Martin/ACN/RESEARCH/PHILIPS@EMEA1 cc: Subject: Re: [manet] Selective Acknowledgement Classification: The problem differs if you want to check that all neighbor receives the broadcast or check that at least one neighbor receives it. For the first problem, in HIPERLAN 1, long time ago, we proposed a collision signal after each transmission. When a node receives a corrupted packet it emits a collision signal burst just after the packet. The signal is just energy and can aggregate with other signals. When the broadcaster senses signal after its packet transmission, it inferes collision and retransmits. In IEEE 802.11 you can use the RTS CTS mechanism with broadcast. Of course there are no CTS. Therefore if the broadcaster senses signal after its RTS, then it just backoff transmission. Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: joan.martin@philips.com To: manet@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 9:19 AM Subject: [manet] Selective Acknowledgement Hi, Does anybody know any literature about selective acknowledgement applied to manet (802.11). Concretely, selective acknowledge in response to a broadcast transmission. The IEEE 802.11 MAC specification does not allow acknowledging on receiving a broadcast transmission. Therefore how could I design a mechanism which ensures me that at least one neighboring node has received the broadcast message (imagine a critical application, e.g. car accident warning, in which you cannot permit a broadcast message "to be lost on the air") Best regards, Joan --=_alternative 0039341FC1256E28_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
For my purpose I don't expect everybody to receive the broadcast. Therefore this solution doesn't match it. Morever, IEEE 802.11 doesn't allow RTS/CTS mechanism prior a brodcast transmission. As a consequence of this, modifications on the standard must be done and that's what I would like to avoid.

Thanks anyway.

Joan







"Philippe Jacquet" <philippe.jacquet@inria.fr>

01/27/04 10:59 AM

       
        To:        Joan Martin/ACN/RESEARCH/PHILIPS@EMEA1
<manet@ietf.org>
        cc:        
        Subject:        Re: [manet] Selective Acknowledgement

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The problem differs if you want to check that all neighbor receives the broadcast or check that at least one neighbor receives it.
 
For the first problem, in HIPERLAN 1, long time ago, we proposed a collision signal after each transmission. When a node receives a corrupted packet it emits a collision signal burst just after the packet. The signal is just energy and can aggregate with other signals. When the broadcaster senses signal after its packet transmission, it inferes collision and retransmits.
 
In IEEE 802.11 you can use the RTS CTS mechanism with broadcast. Of course there are no CTS. Therefore if the broadcaster senses signal after its RTS, then it just backoff transmission.
 
Philippe
----- Original Message -----
From: joan.martin@philips.com
To: manet@ietf.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 9:19 AM
Subject: [manet] Selective Acknowledgement


Hi,

Does anybody know any literature about selective acknowledgement applied to manet (802.11). Concretely, selective acknowledge in response to a broadcast transmission.

The IEEE 802.11 MAC specification does not allow acknowledging on receiving a broadcast transmission. Therefore how could I design a mechanism which ensures me that at least one neighboring node has received the broadcast message (imagine a critical application, e.g. car accident warning, in which you cannot permit a broadcast message "to be lost on the air")

Best regards,
Joan

--=_alternative 0039341FC1256E28_=-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 27 05:44:19 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA28573 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:44:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlQhB-00011j-Et for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:43:53 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0RAhnsu003941 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:43:49 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlQhB-00011U-8b for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:43:49 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA28561 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:43:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlQh7-0006Oc-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:43:45 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlQg9-0006Ki-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:42:46 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlQfU-0006HF-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:42:04 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlQfR-0000gB-Qo; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:42:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlQf3-0000ZJ-Io for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:41:37 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA28471 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:41:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlQf0-0006Et-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:41:34 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlQe2-0006CI-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:40:35 -0500 Received: from sam.comnets.uni-bremen.de ([134.102.186.10] helo=bugs.comnets.uni-bremen.de) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlQdZ-0006AZ-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:40:06 -0500 Received: from scoobydoo (scoobydoo.comnets.uni-bremen.de [134.102.155.152]) by bugs.comnets.uni-bremen.de (8.11.0/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with ESMTP id i0RAe3Q01259; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:40:03 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: bugs.comnets.uni-bremen.de: Host scoobydoo.comnets.uni-bremen.de [134.102.155.152] claimed to be scoobydoo From: "Koojana Kuladinithi" To: "'Jack Chan's Hotmail Account'" , Subject: AW: [manet] How to measure Throughput, Transmission Delay and Drop Ratio Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:40:02 +0100 Message-ID: <000501c3e4c1$ebc5dda0$989b6686@scoobydoo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C3E4CA.4D8A45A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C3E4CA.4D8A45A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jack =20 There are several ways to measure the above. You can use iperf traffic=20 generator ( http://dast.nlanr.net/Projects/Iperf/) to get above measurements for both UDP & TCP. And also, you can use = web100 (www.web100.org) to measure window size, RTO and Ssthr for TCP. At the=20 moment, we are taking some measurements based on iperf & using web100.=20 We have done some modifications to both iperf and web100 and would=20 like to release all scripts that we used for the test soon. =20 Regards =20 Koojana =20 =20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: manet-admin@ietf.org [mailto:manet-admin@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von = Jack Chan's Hotmail Account Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Januar 2004 07:58 An: manet@ietf.org Betreff: [manet] How to measure Throughput, Transmission Delay and Drop Ratio =20 Hi I need some help. =20 I have a wireless testbed composed of 3 laptops equipped with = 802.11b WLAN and running Red Hat Linux 9.0 OS. Later, I will d/l DSR and AODV implementation into this testbed. How can I measure the throughput, transmission delay, drop ratio while during testing? Is there any = program that I can install for gathering all these data? =20 My 2nd question, is there any good test case (any reference from = website) that I can perform to simulate actual "at work" situation of ad-hoc = network? =20 Any help would be greatly appreciated. =20 Jack Chan=20 Queen's University ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C3E4CA.4D8A45A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = Jack

 

=A0There are several ways to measure the above. You can use iperf traffic =

=A0generator (http://dast.nlanr.net/Projects/Iperf/)

=A0 to = get above measurements for both UDP & TCP. And also, you can use web100

=A0(www.web100.org) to measure window size, RTO and Ssthr for TCP. At the =

=A0moment, we are taking some measurements based on iperf & using web100. =

=A0We = have done some modifications to both iperf and web100 and would

=A0like to release all scripts that we used for the test soon.

 

=A0Regards

 

=A0Koojana

 

 

-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: manet-admin@ietf.org [mailto:manet-admin@ietf.org] Im = Auftrag von Jack Chan's Hotmail Account
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. = Januar 2004 07:58
An: manet@ietf.org
Betreff: [manet] How to = measure Throughput, Transmission Delay and Drop Ratio

 

Hi I need some help.

 

    I have a wireless testbed composed = of 3 laptops equipped with 802.11b WLAN and running Red Hat Linux 9.0 OS. = Later, I will d/l DSR and AODV implementation into this testbed. How can I = measure the throughput, transmission delay, drop ratio while during testing? Is = there any program that I can install for gathering all these = data?

 

My 2nd question, is there any good test case (any = reference from website) that I can perform to simulate actual "at work" situation of ad-hoc network?

 

Any help would be greatly = appreciated.

 

Jack Chan

Queen's University

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C3E4CA.4D8A45A0-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 27 11:05:16 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA10932 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:05:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlVhp-0006dI-NQ for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:04:49 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0RG4nfu025490 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:04:49 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlVhp-0006d3-Ja for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:04:49 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA10925 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:04:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlVhm-00030v-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:04:47 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlVgq-0002yB-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:03:48 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlVgF-0002vt-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:03:11 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlVg5-0006PG-M5; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:03:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlVfu-0006Ni-2E for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:02:50 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA10896 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:02:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlVfr-0002vI-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:02:47 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlVew-0002sm-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:01:51 -0500 Received: from zeus.ruca.ua.ac.be ([143.129.201.210] ident=root) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlVeE-0002qG-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:01:06 -0500 Received: from pcinf47 (pcinf47.ruca.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.72]) by zeus.ruca.ua.ac.be (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02655 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:00:56 +0100 (MET) From: "Michael Voorhaen" To: Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:00:51 +0100 Message-ID: <000601c3e4ee$bd8957f0$484b818f@pcinf47> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the HelpDesk for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [manet] Proactive routing Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, At the moment I'm working on an implementation of a hierarchical routing protocol in click as part of a project. I've opted for click modular = routers to do my work, since I can reuse the software in simulations using = nsclick. I want to run the hierarchical protocol on top of a proactive routing protocol (maybe later compare it with using a reactive). I was wondering = if any of you knew any good papers that list some proactive ad hoc = protocols, and give a thorough comparison between them, so I can make an informed choice. I know there is a DSDV implementation from the grid project, but = do any of you know any other click implementations of proactive protocols? Regards, Michael Voorhaen =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Michael Voorhaen =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Phd Student Dept. of Mathematics and Computer Sciences PATS (Performance Analysis of Telecommunication Systems) University of Antwerp Middelheimlaan 1 2020 Antwerpen, Belgium G1.11 Phone: 03/2653905 Mail: michael.voorhaen@ua.ac.be =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 27 11:16:35 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA11561 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:16:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlVsg-00085G-N2 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:16:07 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0RGG2Iu031068 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:16:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlVsg-000851-JG for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:16:02 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA11534 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:16:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlVsf-0003pX-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:16:01 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlVry-0003ky-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:15:19 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlVqs-0003fu-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:14:10 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlVqj-0007fh-Lm; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:14:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlVpm-0007bc-Hy for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:13:02 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA11368 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:12:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlVpl-0003Zl-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:13:01 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlVou-0003Up-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:12:08 -0500 Received: from motgate8.mot.com ([129.188.136.8]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlVo0-0003Pi-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:11:12 -0500 Received: from az33exr01.mot.com (az33exr01.mot.com [10.64.251.231]) by motgate8.mot.com (Motorola/Motgate3) with ESMTP id i0RGBAqC021975 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:11:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from zin05exm02.corp.mot.com (zin05exm02.corp.mot.com [10.232.0.1]) by az33exr01.mot.com (Motorola/az33exr01) with ESMTP id i0RG8gl2021179 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:08:43 -0600 Received: by zin05exm02.corp.mot.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.2) id ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:41:06 +0530 Message-ID: <653138C25D8AD6118292000347080A3709C1C88E@zin05exm02.corp.mot.com> From: Aradhya Rohit V-A15094 To: Michael Voorhaen , manet@ietf.org Subject: RE: [manet] Proactive routing Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:41:01 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.2) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 here you might find some implmentations details and good papers .. http://w3.antd.nist.gov/wctg/manet/ http://www.ics.uci.edu/~atm/adhoc/paper-collection/papers.html http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/G.Aggelou/MANET_PUBLICATIONS.html -Rohit -----Original Message----- From: manet-admin@ietf.org [mailto:manet-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of Michael Voorhaen Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 9:31 PM To: manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Proactive routing Hi, At the moment I'm working on an implementation of a hierarchical routing protocol in click as part of a project. I've opted for click modular routers to do my work, since I can reuse the software in simulations using nsclick. I want to run the hierarchical protocol on top of a proactive routing protocol (maybe later compare it with using a reactive). I was wondering if any of you knew any good papers that list some proactive ad hoc protocols, and give a thorough comparison between them, so I can make an informed choice. I know there is a DSDV implementation from the grid project, but do any of you know any other click implementations of proactive protocols? Regards, Michael Voorhaen ======================================================== Michael Voorhaen ======================================================== Phd Student Dept. of Mathematics and Computer Sciences PATS (Performance Analysis of Telecommunication Systems) University of Antwerp Middelheimlaan 1 2020 Antwerpen, Belgium G1.11 Phone: 03/2653905 Mail: michael.voorhaen@ua.ac.be ======================================================== _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 27 19:24:11 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA04321 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:24:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AldUe-0005s1-IV for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:23:44 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0S0NiBP022559 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:23:44 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AldUe-0005rm-FB for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:23:44 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA04249 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:23:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AldUc-0000Ib-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:23:42 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AldTN-00003i-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:22:25 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AldSK-0007e7-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:21:20 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AldS3-0005LP-L6; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:21:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AldR7-0004z8-1G for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:20:05 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA03872 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AldR5-0007SF-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:20:03 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AldQ9-0007JU-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:19:07 -0500 Received: from host-api.adtran.com ([208.251.151.99] helo=srv-exchange1.adtran.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AldOw-00071R-00 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:17:50 -0500 Received: by srv-exchange1.adtran.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:17:39 -0600 Message-ID: <39B01E2189D99F4B8C9612462DB3922A0CEBABDF@srv-exchange.adtran.com> From: DANIEL BYRNE To: "'D Kothris, Electrical & Electronic Engineering'" , manet@ietf.org Subject: RE: [manet] Post processing simulation data Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:17:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 To being the discussion on probably a touchy subject, I believe simulation is far too overused. Real experimentation is the only way to attain true values for the variables being studied. Simulation is good for working out the initial bugs in the design, but final testing and design verification is too often relegated to simulation as well. Remember, all that really matters is what works in the real world anyway. Simulation also has a tendency to report the same results over and over again. I'd venture to say that 80% of the output we collect is garbage, i.e.. regurgitated simulation results that either have little bearing on reality or at least duplicated and/or foreseen results that have little bearing on the research at hand. I ask, what are we really learning if there are 1000 identical AODV simulations running on ns-2 on 1000 different workstations? Answer, nothing. What I'd really like to see are 1000 actual AODV clusters in day to day use. Or at the very least a 1000 DIFFERENT simulations coded by different individuals on 1000 different workstations. Such techniques would improve our colected results, but ultimately only real world experimentation would give us the all the answers. Only once we move out of the world of endless simulation and back into the real world of implementation, would we really begin to learn the limitations of our protocols and our simulations and consequently improve the work that we do. -----Original Message----- From: manet-admin@ietf.org [mailto:manet-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of D Kothris, Electrical & Electronic Engineering Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:03 AM To: manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Post processing simulation data Hi, I am sure that to all of those involved in MANET research, post processing of simulation data is becoming increasingly complex, tedious and error prone. This is mainly due to the shear amount of data generated and the multiplicity of data types involved. I would like to probe the community in order to share information about possible file/data management and manipulation tools (scripting languages, specialized tools) that can make our lives easier, and furthermore to stimulate thoughts and discussion on how to deal with this enlarging problem at both ends > [simulation tools and post processing tools] Cheers Dimos _______________________________________________________________________ *********************************************************************** Dimosthenis Kothris Centre for Communications Research, University of Bristol, Network & Protocols group Address: Contact numbers: _______________________________________________________________________ Network & Protocols Center for Communcations research Merchant Venturers Building Tel : +44 117 903 1104 Woodland Road Fax : +44 117 954 5206 Bristol BS8 1UB Mobile: +44 7779 40 48 42 United Kingdom Email : d.kothris@bristol.ac.uk *********************************************************************** _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 27 19:35:29 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA05103 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:35:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AldfX-0006ea-Uj for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:35:00 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0S0YxE4025566 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:34:59 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ald8r-00070q-0t for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:01:13 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA01477 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:00:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ald8Y-0004Uy-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:00:54 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ald6p-00048g-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:59:07 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ald5U-0003sq-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:57:44 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ald4t-0005BE-Hb; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:57:07 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Al7uA-0006S9-9r for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:39:58 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA07101 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:39:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Al7u8-0000r0-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:39:56 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Al7tB-0000lu-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:38:58 -0500 Received: from cartero1.sci.uma.es ([150.214.40.4]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Al7sD-0000gc-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:37:57 -0500 Received: from correo1.uma.es (vesta1.sci.uma.es [150.214.40.21]) by cartero1.sci.uma.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF8C230CB for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:37:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from pc116te.dte.uma.es (atmpc116.dte.uma.es [150.214.59.116]) by correo1.uma.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E589296B42 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:37:25 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20040126153627.023e8890@buzonpdi.uma.es> X-Sender: atc@buzonpdi.uma.es X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:37:29 +0100 To: manet@ietf.org From: Alicia =?iso-8859-1?Q?Trivi=F1o?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [manet] Traces in ns2 Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there any software to analyze the traces in ns-2? Thanks in advance, Alicia Trivi=F1o / Tl. +34-95.213.28.44 Dpto. Tecnologia Electronica E.T.S. Ing. Telecomunicacion Universidad de Malaga Campus Universitario de Teatinos 29071 Malaga, Spain _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 27 20:05:44 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA07358 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:05:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ale8p-0000Pu-HQ for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:05:15 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0S15FRe001601 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:05:15 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ale8p-0000Pk-EU for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:05:15 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA07339 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:05:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ale8n-0004mg-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:05:13 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ale7r-0004iG-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:04:16 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ale7X-0004eD-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:03:55 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ald52-0005Ia-J6; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:57:16 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Al8KJ-0002RK-FE for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:06:59 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA08271 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:06:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Al8KH-00026W-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:06:57 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Al8JJ-00024B-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:05:57 -0500 Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.60]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Al8IM-00021V-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:04:58 -0500 Received: from eis.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:04:02 +0000 Received: from EEN9097.een.bris.ac.uk (een9097.een.bris.ac.uk [137.222.189.97]) by eis.bris.ac.uk (8.11.7-20030918/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i0QF3DW06305 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:03:13 GMT Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:03:13 -0000 From: "D Kothris, Electrical & Electronic Engineering" To: manet@ietf.org Message-ID: <425751548.1075129393@EEN9097.een.bris.ac.uk> Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:01hqGQkOoMyceG19bvwOcRvQPDGMTruPTP8gK6FcTntrQW+w==; token_authority=postmaster@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [manet] Post processing simulation data Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am sure that to all of those involved in MANET research, post processing of simulation data is becoming increasingly complex, tedious and error prone. This is mainly due to the shear amount of data generated and the multiplicity of data types involved. I would like to probe the community in order to share information about possible file/data management and manipulation tools (scripting languages, specialized tools) that can make our lives easier, and furthermore to stimulate thoughts and discussion on how to deal with this enlarging problem at both ends > [simulation tools and post processing tools] Cheers Dimos _______________________________________________________________________ *********************************************************************** Dimosthenis Kothris Centre for Communications Research, University of Bristol, Network & Protocols group Address: Contact numbers: _______________________________________________________________________ Network & Protocols Center for Communcations research Merchant Venturers Building Tel : +44 117 903 1104 Woodland Road Fax : +44 117 954 5206 Bristol BS8 1UB Mobile: +44 7779 40 48 42 United Kingdom Email : d.kothris@bristol.ac.uk *********************************************************************** _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 27 20:10:29 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA07695 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:10:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AleDQ-0000oA-H5 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:10:00 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0S1A0Vn003096 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:10:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ald8q-00070h-E6 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:01:12 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA01474 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:00:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ald8Y-0004Us-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:00:54 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ald6o-00048Q-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:59:07 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ald5U-0003sp-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:57:44 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ald5H-0005S4-6I; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:57:31 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Al98j-0007uK-Ku for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:59:05 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA10444 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:59:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Al98h-0004SR-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:59:03 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Al97n-0004Po-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:58:08 -0500 Received: from zeus.ruca.ua.ac.be ([143.129.201.210] ident=root) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Al97Q-0004N9-00 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:57:44 -0500 Received: from pcinf47 (pcinf47.ruca.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.72]) by zeus.ruca.ua.ac.be (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00341 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:57:36 +0100 (MET) From: "Michael Voorhaen" To: Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:57:32 +0100 Message-ID: <000201c3e425$1c3787b0$484b818f@pcinf47> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the HelpDesk for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [manet] proactive routing protocols (comparisons) Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, At the moment I'm working on an implementation of a hierarchical routing protocol in click as part of a project. I've opted for click modular = routers to do my work, since I can reuse the software in simulations using = nsclick. I want to run the hierarchical protocol on top of a proactive routing protocol (maybe later compare it with using a reactive). I was wondering = if any of you knew any good papers that list some proactive ad hoc = protocols, and give a thorough comparison between them, so I can make an informed choice. I know there is a DSDV implementation from the grid project, but = do any of you know any other click implementations of proactive protocols? Regards, Michael Voorhaen =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Michael Voorhaen =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Phd Student Dept. of Mathematics and Computer Sciences PATS (Performance Analysis of Telecommunication Systems) University of Antwerp Middelheimlaan 1 2020 Antwerpen, Belgium G1.11 Phone: 03/2653905 Mail: michael.voorhaen@ua.ac.be =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 28 03:39:50 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA20928 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:39:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AllEI-0002oa-8m for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:39:22 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0S8dMrY010813 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:39:22 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AllEG-0002oK-IQ for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:39:20 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA20885 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:39:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AllEE-0001P0-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:39:18 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AllDI-0001Jo-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:38:20 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AllCL-0001F5-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:37:21 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AllC2-0002G6-13; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:37:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AllBN-0002El-4u for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:36:21 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA20821 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:36:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AllBK-00019m-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:36:18 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AllAT-00015j-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:35:25 -0500 Received: from che.ojctech.com ([209.254.133.74]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1All9d-0000xG-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:34:33 -0500 Received: from che.ojctech.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by che.ojctech.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0S8Y3RG003024 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 02:34:03 -0600 Received: (from dyoung@localhost) by che.ojctech.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0S8Y3wu003021 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 02:34:03 -0600 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 02:34:02 -0600 From: David Young To: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] Selective Acknowledgement Message-ID: <20040128083402.GI4148@che.ojctech.com> Mail-Followup-To: manet@ietf.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 09:19:58AM +0100, joan.martin@philips.com wrote: > Hi, > > Does anybody know any literature about selective acknowledgement applied > to manet (802.11). Concretely, selective acknowledge in response to a > broadcast transmission. > > The IEEE 802.11 MAC specification does not allow acknowledging on > receiving a broadcast transmission. Therefore how could I design a > mechanism which ensures me that at least one neighboring node has received > the broadcast message (imagine a critical application, e.g. car accident > warning, in which you cannot permit a broadcast message "to be lost on the > air") Do you have your choice of 802.11 radio, or do you have to use a particular chip? How timely must the acknowledgements be? Presumably some of the broadcast's receivers could be hidden from each other? Dave -- David Young OJC Technologies dyoung@ojctech.com Urbana, IL * (217) 278-3933 _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 28 06:25:04 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA25864 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 06:25:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlnoA-0005wm-Py for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 06:24:38 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0SBOYEX022859 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 06:24:34 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlnoA-0005wc-Co for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 06:24:34 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA25800 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 06:24:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Alno6-00064v-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 06:24:30 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Alnn8-00060L-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 06:23:31 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Alnmw-0005wE-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 06:23:18 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Alnmf-0005a1-OG; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 06:23:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Alnm7-0005Ze-Ex for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 06:22:27 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA25713 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 06:22:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Alnm3-0005us-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 06:22:23 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Alnl6-0005qI-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 06:21:25 -0500 Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr ([192.93.2.78]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Alnk9-0005im-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 06:20:25 -0500 Received: from yana.inria.fr (yana.inria.fr [128.93.9.62]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id i0SBJtv02405; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:19:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from kefrida (kefrida.inria.fr [128.93.17.86]) by yana.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id i0SBJsP06539; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:19:54 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <001801c3e590$940988d0$56115d80@kefrida> From: "Emmanuel Baccelli" To: , References: Subject: Re: [manet] Selective Acknowledgement Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:19:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C3E598.F5ADE5B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C3E598.F5ADE5B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Actually, maybe you could use OLSR and MPR flooding for this: in this = context, when a given node transmits a broadcast message, at least one = neighbor (MPR for the node) should retransmit it, and the node should be = able to overhear this retransmission since this MPR is a neighbor (by = definition). This overhearing could be taken as implicit selective = acknowledgement. To make sure the broadcast message is not lost in the = air, the node could just keep transmitting again until it overhears such = a retransmission. Emmanuel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: joan.martin@philips.com=20 To: manet@ietf.org=20 Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 6:10 PM Subject: [manet] Selective Acknowledgement Hi,=20 Does anybody know any literature about selective acknowledgement = applied to manet (802.11). Concretely, selective acknowledge in response = to a broadcast transmission.=20 The IEEE 802.11 MAC specification does not allow acknowledging on = receiving a broadcast transmission. Therefore how could I design a = mechanism which ensures me that at least one neighboring node has = received the broadcast message (imagine a critical application, e.g. car = accident warning, in which you cannot permit a broadcast message "to be = lost on the air")=20 Best regards,=20 Joan ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C3E598.F5ADE5B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
Actually, maybe you could use OLSR = and MPR=20 flooding for this: in this context, when a given node transmits a = broadcast=20 message, at least one neighbor (MPR for the node) should retransmit = it, and=20 the node should be able to overhear this retransmission since this MPR = is a=20 neighbor (by definition). This overhearing could be taken as implicit = selective=20 acknowledgement. To make sure the broadcast message is not lost in the = air, the=20 node could just keep transmitting again until it overhears such a=20 retransmission.
 
Emmanuel
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 joan.martin@philips.com =
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 = 6:10=20 PM
Subject: [manet] Selective=20 Acknowledgement


Hi, =

Does anybody know any literature about = selective=20 acknowledgement applied to manet (802.11). Concretely, selective = acknowledge=20 in response to a broadcast transmission.

The IEEE 802.11 MAC specification does not allow = acknowledging on=20 receiving a broadcast transmission. Therefore how could I design a = mechanism=20 which ensures me that at least one neighboring node has received the = broadcast=20 message (imagine a critical application, e.g. car accident warning, in = which=20 you cannot permit a broadcast message "to be lost on the air")=20

Best regards, =
Joan ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C3E598.F5ADE5B0-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 28 08:33:00 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA00292 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:33:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Alpnz-00065Q-Mp for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:32:32 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0SDWVnL023390 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:32:31 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Alpnz-00065B-FC for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:32:31 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA00288 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Alpny-0001QY-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:32:30 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlpnB-0001Mj-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:31:42 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Alpmu-0001Ht-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:31:24 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlpmZ-0005pd-KU; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:31:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlpmA-0005p4-6H for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:30:38 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA00202 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:30:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Alpm9-0001Gf-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:30:37 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlplB-0001Bp-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:29:38 -0500 Received: from 66-152-29-4.ded.btitelecom.net ([66.152.29.4] helo=mail.scires.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlpkV-00012b-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:28:55 -0500 Received: from SRCATL-MTA by mail.scires.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:26:36 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.3 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:25:55 -0500 From: "Pete Sholander" To: , , Subject: RE: [manet] Post processing simulation data Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A valid point. However, most publically-announced field demos have only = used about 20 nodes so far. =20 So ... maybe each upcoming IETF Meeting should stage some volunteer-based = OLSR (or AODV) networks, with laptops and WiFi. There used to be = 1500-2000 people show up for each meeting. A 1000 node-network would = severely "stress test" OLSR -- or the newer MANET-friendly OSPF proposals = -- in a dense, relatively static network with random traffic-patterns. = Good interoperability testing also :) As for Dr. Kothris' question ... it also sounds like a good BS/MS project = to write some post-processing scripts for the outputs of ns2 sims or = Ethereal. =20 --Pete Sholander Atlanta, GA >>> DANIEL BYRNE 01/27/04 07:17PM >>> To being the discussion on probably a touchy subject, I believe simulation is far too overused. Real experimentation is the only way to attain true values for the variables being studied. Simulation is good for working = out the initial bugs in the design, but final testing and design verification = is too often relegated to simulation as well. Remember, all that really matters is what works in the real world anyway. Simulation also has a tendency to report the same results over and over again. I'd venture to say that 80% of the output we collect is garbage, i.e.. regurgitated simulation results that either have little bearing on reality or at least duplicated and/or foreseen results that have little bearing on the research at hand. I ask, what are we really learning if there are 1000 identical AODV simulations running on ns-2 on 1000 = different workstations? Answer, nothing. What I'd really like to see are 1000 = actual AODV clusters in day to day use. Or at the very least a 1000 DIFFERENT simulations coded by different individuals on 1000 different workstations. Such techniques would improve our colected results, but ultimately only = real world experimentation would give us the all the answers. =20 Only once we move out of the world of endless simulation and back into the real world of implementation, would we really begin to learn the limitation= s of our protocols and our simulations and consequently improve the work = that we do. -----Original Message----- From: manet-admin@ietf.org [mailto:manet-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of D Kothris, Electrical & Electronic Engineering Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:03 AM To: manet@ietf.org=20 Subject: [manet] Post processing simulation data Hi, I am sure that to all of those involved in MANET research, post processing= =20 of simulation data is becoming increasingly complex, tedious and error=20 prone. This is mainly due to the shear amount of data generated and the=20 multiplicity of data types involved. I would like to probe the community in order to share information about=20 possible file/data management and manipulation tools (scripting languages,= =20 specialized tools) that can make our lives easier, and furthermore to=20 stimulate thoughts and discussion on how to deal with this enlarging=20 problem at both ends > [simulation tools and post processing tools] Cheers Dimos _______________________________________________________________________ *********************************************************************** Dimosthenis Kothris Centre for Communications Research, University of Bristol, Network & Protocols group Address: Contact numbers: =09 _______________________________________________________________________ Network & Protocols Center for Communcations research Merchant Venturers Building Tel : +44 117 903 1104 Woodland Road Fax : +44 117 954 5206 Bristol BS8 1UB Mobile: +44 7779 40 48 42 United Kingdom Email : d.kothris@bristol.ac.uk=20 *********************************************************************** _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org=20 https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet=20 _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org=20 https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 28 09:01:59 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA01198 for ; 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Thank you and regards, Foo Yee Loo Univ. of Tokyo _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 28 12:25:02 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA15193 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:25:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AltQW-0006W9-Qw for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:24:35 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0SHOWZL025049 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:24:32 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AltQW-0006Vw-NR for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:24:32 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA15022 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:24:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AltQV-0002bv-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:24:31 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AltOo-0002Dt-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:22:47 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AltN8-0001rY-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:21:02 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Alt6l-0003LR-Ub; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:04:07 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlseR-0000FJ-4J for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:34:51 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA08420 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:34:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlseP-0001cr-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:34:49 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlsdA-0001KY-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:33:33 -0500 Received: from holly.csn.ul.ie ([136.201.105.4]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Alsba-0000sK-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:31:54 -0500 Received: from skynet.csn.ul.ie (skynet [136.201.105.2]) by holly.csn.ul.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A3093741; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:31:20 +0000 (Eire) Received: by skynet.csn.ul.ie (Postfix, from userid 2220) id 40AE3E4C5; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:31:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skynet.csn.ul.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2357260; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:31:19 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:31:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Bryan Hogan X-X-Sender: bryan@skynet To: Alicia =?iso-8859-1?Q?Trivi=F1o?= Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] Traces in ns2 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040126153627.023e8890@buzonpdi.uma.es> Message-ID: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040126153627.023e8890@buzonpdi.uma.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, trace graph, available at www.geocities.com/tracegraph/ or write your own code to do it, a fairly simple awk script would appropriate. Bryan Bryan's DSR FAQ - http://www.geocities/bjhogan On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Alicia Trivi=F1o wrote: > Is there any software to analyze the traces in ns-2? > > Thanks in advance, > > > Alicia Trivi=F1o / Tl. +34-95.213.28.44 > Dpto. Tecnologia Electronica > E.T.S. Ing. Telecomunicacion > Universidad de Malaga > Campus Universitario de Teatinos > 29071 Malaga, Spain > > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 28 16:24:22 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA00151 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:24:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlxAA-00020Y-Hx for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:23:55 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0SLNsvi007717 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:23:54 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlxAA-00020O-C5 for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:23:54 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA00107 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:23:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlxA8-0005wv-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:23:52 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Alx9C-0005qD-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:22:55 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Alx8Q-0005jv-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:22:06 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Alx8K-0001gI-G8; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:22:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Alx8A-0001fY-I5 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:21:50 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA29972 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:21:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Alx88-0005hD-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:21:48 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Alx78-0005aN-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:20:47 -0500 Received: from holly.csn.ul.ie ([136.201.105.4]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Alx6D-0005Q0-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:19:49 -0500 Received: from skynet.csn.ul.ie (skynet [136.201.105.2]) by holly.csn.ul.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08C7936F9; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:19:15 +0000 (Eire) Received: by skynet.csn.ul.ie (Postfix, from userid 2220) id 8FD74E4C5; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:19:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skynet.csn.ul.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8608C7260; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:19:15 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:19:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Bryan Hogan X-X-Sender: bryan@skynet To: Alicia =?iso-8859-1?Q?Trivi=F1o?= Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] Traces in ns2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040126153627.023e8890@buzonpdi.uma.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable a bit embarrased...my FAQ is located at http://www.geocities.com/b_j_hogan On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Bryan Hogan wrote: > Hi, > > trace graph, available at www.geocities.com/tracegraph/ > > or write your own code to do it, a fairly simple awk script would > appropriate. > > Bryan > Bryan's DSR FAQ - http://www.geocities/bjhogan > > > On Mon, 26 Jan > 2004, Alicia Trivi=F1o wrote: > > > Is there any software to analyze the traces in ns-2? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Alicia Trivi=F1o / Tl. +34-95.213.28.44 > > Dpto. Tecnologia Electronica > > E.T.S. Ing. Telecomunicacion > > Universidad de Malaga > > Campus Universitario de Teatinos > > 29071 Malaga, Spain > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > manet mailing list > > manet@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 28 16:28:22 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA00479 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:28:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlxE2-0002FG-A9 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:27:54 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0SLRses008620 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:27:54 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlxE2-0002Ex-5d for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:27:54 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA00348 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:27:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlxE0-0006Vh-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:27:52 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlxD3-0006IH-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:26:53 -0500 Received: from [65.246.255.50] (helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlxCI-0006CY-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:26:06 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by mx2.foretec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Alx5f-0002ck-23 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:19:15 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Alx5S-0001JN-9w; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:19:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Alx5L-0001IU-85 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:18:55 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA29906 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:18:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Alx5J-0005PZ-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:18:53 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Alx4d-0005KK-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:18:12 -0500 Received: from egaheer.interia.pl ([217.74.65.182] helo=poczta.interia.pl) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Alx47-0005BR-00 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:17:39 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by system.wewnetrzny9 (poczta.interia.pl) with SMTP id 2693D3744B0 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:17:33 +0100 (CET) Received: by poczta.fm (poczta.fm, from userid 502) id E45D0642F9; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:17:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from gawlin (unknown [195.116.22.194]) by poczta.fm (poczta.fm) with ESMTP id 15AD064312 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:17:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000b01c3e5e4$6a898f10$8b000b0a@gawlin> From: "gawlin" To: Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:19:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [manet] Japanese producents of access points Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi I'm looking for Japanese producents of Access Points? I would be very grateful for your help. Sorry for such a question here, but it's importent for me. regards Marcin Gawlinski _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Jan 29 14:57:13 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA12797 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:57:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmIHN-0001BD-M9 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:56:46 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0TJujFe004534 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:56:45 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmIHN-0001B3-Hr for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:56:45 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA12778 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:56:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AmIHK-0000aq-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:56:42 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AmIGa-0000T4-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:55:56 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AmIFt-0000K3-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:55:13 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmIFj-0000XB-Mn; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:55:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmIFS-0000W3-LQ for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:54:46 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA12584 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:54:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AmIFP-0000Gr-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:54:43 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AmIEW-00008y-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:53:48 -0500 Received: from bareed3.maktoob.net ([195.172.126.104] helo=maktoobchat.net) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AmIDk-00000n-00 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:53:00 -0500 Received: from [195.172.126.106] (HELO maktoobchat.net) by maktoobchat.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP id 11467512 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:55:33 +0000 Received: from [195.172.126.104] (HELO maktoob.com) by maktoobchat.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP id 12618413 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:44:03 +0000 From: "yazeed al-sbou" To: manet@ietf.org Comment: Maktoob By BOC X-Mailer: Maktoob 2.0 [Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; .NET CLR 1.0.3705; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)] X-Originating-IP: [143.52.2.89] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:44:03 +0000 Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [manet] Re: manet digest, Vol 1 #703 - 5 msgs Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi dear all... I am a new PhD student in the field of QoS analysis and measurement. My topic is in QoS analysis of the multimedia applications over wireless networks using NS2... can anyone help me how to start in this issue?? Thanks in advance to all... YOURS Yazeed... Yazeed Ahamd Al-Sbou School of Engineering Sheffield Hallam University Sheiffield Tel. 00441142424419, Mobile 00447813402741 Yazeed.A.Al-Sbou@student.shu.ac.uk United Kingdom _________________________________________________________ SPORTS SPORTS SPORTS! Hurry up and read the latest updates in the exciting world of sports. http://www.maktoob.com/ _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 30 12:52:44 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA03923 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:52:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmcoT-0006DM-FC for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:52:18 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0UHqHjm023887 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:52:17 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmcoT-0006DC-Br for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:52:17 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA03860 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:52:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AmcoR-00029g-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:52:15 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AmcnS-0001wz-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:51:15 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AmcmT-0001gx-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:50:13 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmcmJ-0005n6-Ok; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:50:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Amclb-0005kP-6l for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:49:19 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA03516 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:49:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AmclZ-0001YU-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:49:17 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AmckZ-0001NM-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:48:16 -0500 Received: from [203.199.83.248] (helo=rediffmail.com) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Amcjc-0001BM-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:47:16 -0500 Received: (qmail 19928 invoked by uid 510); 30 Jan 2004 17:47:11 -0000 Date: 30 Jan 2004 17:47:11 -0000 Message-ID: <20040130174711.19927.qmail@webmail36.rediffmail.com> Received: from unknown (203.200.145.160) by rediffmail.com via HTTP; 30 jan 2004 17:47:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "darwin jb clement" Reply-To: "darwin jb clement" To: manet@ietf.org Cc: glomosim-users-l@lists.ucla.edu Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Next_1075484831---0-203.199.83.248-19924" Subject: [manet] (no subject) Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_30_40, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_06,HTML_MESSAGE,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multipart mime message --Next_1075484831---0-203.199.83.248-19924 Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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=0Amay anybody suggest me graph generating tool for= output statistics (glomo.stat) of glomosim in windows platform.
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=0A<= A target=3D"_blank" HREF=3D"http://clients.rediff.com/signature/track_sig.a= sp">=0A --Next_1075484831---0-203.199.83.248-19924 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi all:=0A=0Amay anybody suggest me graph generating tool for output statis= tics (glomo.stat) of glomosim in windows platform.=0A=0Athankz in advance= =0Acheerz:darwin j.b. clement --Next_1075484831---0-203.199.83.248-19924-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 30 14:32:13 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA11175 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:32:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmeMk-0000vP-FU for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:31:46 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0UJVkVC003554 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:31:46 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmeMk-0000vF-CO for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:31:46 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA11150 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:31:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AmeMh-0002G9-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:31:43 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AmeLv-00026q-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:30:56 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AmeLH-0001vh-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:30:15 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmeL6-0000Ob-Co; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:30:04 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmeKm-0000NE-P9 for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:29:44 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA10885 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:29:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AmeKj-0001sZ-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:29:41 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AmeJo-0001e7-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:28:45 -0500 Received: from [203.199.83.245] (helo=rediffmail.com) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AmeIK-0001AC-00 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:27:13 -0500 Received: (qmail 17920 invoked by uid 510); 30 Jan 2004 19:27:08 -0000 Date: 30 Jan 2004 19:27:08 -0000 Message-ID: <20040130192708.17919.qmail@mailweb33.rediffmail.com> Received: from unknown (203.200.145.160) by rediffmail.com via HTTP; 30 jan 2004 19:27:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "darwin jb clement" Reply-To: "darwin jb clement" To: glomosim-users-l@lists.ucla.edu Cc: manet@ietf.org Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Next_1075490828---0-203.199.83.245-17917" Subject: [manet] (no subject) Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_20_30, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_06,HTML_MESSAGE,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multipart mime message --Next_1075490828---0-203.199.83.245-17917 Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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=0Acould anyone suggest me a standard configuration file(c= onfig.in) with standard parameters which fits best to mobility condition fo= r debugging protocols in glomosim.
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=0A=0A --Next_1075490828---0-203.199.83.245-17917 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi all:=0Acould anyone suggest me a standard configuration file(config.in) = with standard parameters which fits best to mobility condition for debuggin= g protocols in glomosim.=0A=0Acheers:darwin j.b. clement --Next_1075490828---0-203.199.83.245-17917-- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Sat Jan 31 04:14:24 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA14262 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:14:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmrCN-0001bE-6g for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:13:55 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0V9DtdV006142 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:13:55 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmrCM-0001az-9H for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:13:54 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA14258 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:13:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AmrCJ-0003Wp-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:13:51 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AmrBN-0003PQ-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:12:54 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AmrAr-0003Iy-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:12:21 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmrAY-0001Nk-Df; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:12:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmrAL-0001Mu-UU for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:11:50 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA14215 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:11:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AmrAJ-0003Hk-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:11:47 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Amr9R-0003BX-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:10:53 -0500 Received: from xenia.media.mit.edu ([18.85.3.135]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Amr8i-000356-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:10:08 -0500 Received: from Helium ([61.17.122.115]) by xenia.media.mit.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/XENIA) with ESMTP id i0V957nA192366; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:05:08 -0500 (EST) From: "Ankur Jain" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alicia_Trivi=F1o?= , Subject: RE: [manet] Traces in ns2 Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:37:02 +0530 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040126153627.023e8890@buzonpdi.uma.es> Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by xenia.media.mit.edu id i0V957nA192366 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24 autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alicia, You may want to have a look at http://www.geocities.com/ankurjain009/projects.htm, developed by me somet= ime ago. I think it will suffice your needs. Otherwise, you can always write the scripts in awk or Perl as per your requirements. All the best, Regards, Ankur -----Original Message----- From: manet-admin@ietf.org [mailto:manet-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of Alicia Trivi=F1o Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 8:07 PM To: manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Traces in ns2 Is there any software to analyze the traces in ns-2? Thanks in advance, Alicia Trivi=F1o / Tl. +34-95.213.28.44 Dpto. Tecnologia Electronica E.T.S. Ing. Telecomunicacion Universidad de Malaga Campus Universitario de Teatinos 29071 Malaga, Spain _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From exim@www1.ietf.org Sat Jan 31 04:49:25 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA15173 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:49:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmrkH-0003Xo-58 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:48:57 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0V9mvIJ013623 for manet-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:48:57 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmrkD-0003XP-Sm for manet-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:48:53 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA15143 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AmrkA-0007U4-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:48:50 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AmrjG-0007Lq-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:47:55 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Amria-0007F8-00 for manet-web-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:47:12 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmriR-0003Dz-B4; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:47:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmriE-0003Dj-Po for manet@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:46:50 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA15092 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:46:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AmriB-0007DH-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:46:47 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AmrhC-00076r-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:45:47 -0500 Received: from smtp03.web.de ([217.72.192.158] helo=smtp.web.de) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AmrgC-0006ug-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:44:44 -0500 Received: from [80.139.41.154] (helo=navayo.local) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.99 #566) id 1Amrfd-0006Tb-00 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:44:11 +0100 From: Frank Dinies To: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] Traces in ns2 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:44:07 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401311044.07581.FrankDinies@web.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: manet-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alicia, I would suggest you have a look at the sources from the cmu-mobile extensio= n=20 from ns2. There are a few perl-scripts, which show how to analyze ns-traces. They can easily be adopted to your own needs. greetings =46rank=20 > Is there any software to analyze the traces in ns-2? > > Thanks in advance, > > > Alicia Trivi=F1o / Tl. +34-95.213.28.44 > Dpto. Tecnologia Electronica > E.T.S. Ing. Telecomunicacion > Universidad de Malaga > Campus Universitario de Teatinos > 29071 Malaga, Spain _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet