From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 01 04:56:22 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HMhyC-0001L3-BO; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:53:04 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HMhyA-0001Jh-0R for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:53:02 -0500 Received: from mail.di.uniroma1.it ([151.100.17.19]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HMhy6-00072W-RM for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:53:01 -0500 Received: from [151.100.17.90] (unknown [151.100.17.90]) by mail.di.uniroma1.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF771BD665 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:44:07 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45E6A26E.7020401@di.uniroma1.it> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:52:46 +0100 From: Gaia Maselli User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: it, it-it, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: manet@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3971661e40967acfc35f708dd5f33760 Subject: [manet] CFP: ACM Workshop on Systems and Networking Support for Healthcare and Assisted Living Environments X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: maselli@di.uniroma1.it List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org We apologize in advance if you receive multiple copies of this CFP. ------------------------------------------------------------ Call for Papers HealthNet 2007 The 1st International Workshop on Systems and Networking Support for Healthcare and Assisted Living Environments In conjunction with MobiSys 2007 June 11, 2007 Puerto Rico, USA http://healthnet07.cs.uiuc.edu Sponsored by ACM SIGMOBILE ------------------------------------------------------------ WORKSHOP SCOPE: ================ As the world's population grows older, healthcare and high-tech companies are joining forces. New technologies are being used to provide improved support for elderly and home bound people in their homes and in assisted living environments. The overall goal of these initiatives is to improve the quality of life by providing customized support to people in need of assistance. The main challenge is to provide this support according to the user's own specific situation in a non-intrusive and respectful way. These new technologies enable the automation of the observation and support for elderly and home bound people through the use of sensors, actuators, distributed intelligence, databases, ubiquitous connectivity and friendly adaptive interfaces, all connected mainly via a variety of wireless networking technologies. The ultimate goal is a system that can adapt to the users needs, helping them get through their daily routine in a way that is effective in providing support where needed without making them feel humiliated by excessive attention. To provide such support, it will be necessary to combine efforts from many areas of computer science, including networking, distributed systems, security, data management, HCI, AI and middleware. Given the inherent use of mobile and wireless communication and the need for comprehensive distributed systems as well as the multi-disciplinary nature of solutions for healthcare and assisted living environments, the goal of HealthNet is to provide a forum for the cross-area interactions that will be necessary for successful systems and applications. The specific focus of HealthNet will be on understanding what it takes to provide effective systems and communication support for healthcare and assisted living environments. Although the systems and networking community is very good at providing effective solutions to satisfying application requirements, they require input from experts in other disciples, including HCI, middleware, security, privacy and social networking, to provide a more accurate understanding of the specific requirements for these environments. Therefore, HealthNet aims to attract researchers working on cross-disciplinary projects, with a focus on understanding and supporting the requirements of these complex applications. Authors are invited to submit papers presenting new research related to the support of healthcare and assisted living environments. All submissions must describe original research, not published or currently under review for another workshop, conference, or journal. Areas of interest include, but are not limited to: * Enabling technologies * Service and device discovery * Security and privacy * Reliability and fault tolerance * User and device localization * Resource management architecture * User data management * Middleware for heterogeneous networks * Mobility and connectivity management * Cross-layer system architecture design * Human-centered Computing * Task and behavior analysis * Impact of user interface design on system design and management * Test-beds and simulations environments IMPORTANT DATES: ================ Paper submission deadline: March 23, 2007 (5PM US EST) Notification of acceptance: April 27, 2007 Camera ready version due: May 17, 2007 Workshop date: June 11, 2007 PAPER SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS: =============================== All paper submissions will be handled electronically. Papers must be in PDF format, no longer than 6 pages, double-column, with a font size no smaller than 10 points, and must fit properly on US Letter-sized paper (8.5 inch x 11 inch) with reasonable margins. The first page of each paper should include the names and affiliations of the authors, i.e., the submissions should not be anonymous and reviewing is single-blind. Submissions will be judged on based on technical content and correctness, relevance to the workshop, as well as presentation of the research. Extended versions of selected workshop papers will be considered for fast track publication in a special issue of ACM Monet. ORGANIZING COMMITTEE ==================== WORKSHOP Co-Chairs: * Robin Kravets, University of Illinois, USA * Chiara Petrioli, Rome University "La Sapienza," Italy PUBLICITY Co-Chairs: * Stefano Basagni, Northeastern University, USA * Gaia Maselli, Rome University "La Sapienza," Italy TECHNICAL PROGRAM COMMITTEE * Amy Murphy, IRST-ITC * Archan Misra, IBM * Gene Tsudik, ISI * Hans Gellersen, Lancaster University * Henry Kautz, University of Rochester * Jack Stankovic, University of Virginia * Jean-Pierre Ebert, IHP Microelectronics * Karrie Karahalios, University of Illinois * Kay Connelly, Indiana University * Maria Ebling, IBM * Martha Pollack, University of Michigan * Nigel Davies, Lancaster University * Sunny Consolvo, Intel * Taieb Znati, University of Pittsburgh * Tarek Abdelzaher, University of Illinois * Wendi Heinzelman, University of Rochester * Yih-Chun Hu, University of Illinois Please email questions related to paper submission or the technical program to: healthnet07@cs.uiuc.edu. Organized by UIUC and Rome University "La Sapienza". _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 01 08:14:38 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HMl5l-0005xC-S3; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:13:05 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HMl5j-0005vt-T0 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:13:03 -0500 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.228]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HMl5f-0001dT-Dw for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:13:03 -0500 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i20so634680wra for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:12:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=a5BX0wFh7SnR20+sIIaTecpjftOrNTosncxC/QFryVDGuWH8A8Y1LC1gzkxybWTlU0qM5/blpJj3n8o+O8Pzc2QeIDuYow9FEgDrubP5sVG5idywIb424KbosPXqhxZLqi2xIyr1cdGR5N7dxayXRWsK46GyLBndFv0IeUNtBA8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=bMid8pfb78emS2sUfsWSOMMXMbdUOt+O5YHZneHfLhQYA/gQsD4KPJQuWVPm+hpb1oEilLM3C4DsPdXi+LGiFitCqlHt2araJ0vmzE/B5i8iaydcdeH5kQ1vty5LUBrKjg8GkW1i+MJGJ2zh900WBIQRWT0KB0ZtZIucgy//ZVE= Received: by 10.114.171.1 with SMTP id t1mr115822wae.1172754764287; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:12:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.209.17 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 05:12:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:12:44 +0100 From: "MoSO Workshop" To: manet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 515708a075ffdf0a79d1c83b601e2afd Subject: [manet] last cfp (extended deadline: March 7): Mobile Service-oriented Architectures and Ontologies (MoSO 2007) Workshop X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org ***Apologies for multiple postings*** EXTENDED DEADLINE: March 7, 2007 Last call for Submissions ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------- Mobile Service-oriented Architectures and Ontologies (MoSO 2007) http://events.deri.at/MoSO2007/ at The 8th International Conference on Mobile Data Management (MDM'07) http://mdm2007.uni-mannheim.de/ May 11, 2007, Mannheim, Germany -------------------------------------------------------- THEME OF THE WORKSHOP The theme of the workshop is the intersection of three major trends in toda= y's computing: * mobile computing becomes more and more important. Mobile portable devices have outnumbered already traditional desktop computers and will mould the view of computers future generations will have. * service-oriented computing is viewed by many analysts as the computin= g paradigm of the near future. It allows for the dynamic integration of functionality provided by different parties. * research on ontologies, in particular in connection with work on the semantic web and semantic web services allows for machine understanda= ble description of functionality and for automatic interaction of devices without the need for human involvement. The proposed workshop investigates how mobile computing can benefit from service-orientation and ontologies and vice versa. The vision is to extend = the typically rather limited capabilities of mobile devices by using services offered by other devices, network providers or third parties. Adding ontologies to = this scenario allows this extension to be transparent to the human user. Further= , some high-end mobile telecom terminals can be called already multimedia computers due their programmability,processor speed, and gigabytes of memor= y. Already in the near future these devices could also utilize ontologies locally during service provisioning. GENERAL OVERVIEW Today, computers are changing from big, grey, and noisy things on our desks= to small, portable, and evernetworked devices most of us are carrying around. = This new form of mobility imposes a shift in how we view computers and the way we work with them. In developing countries like India and China 'Mobile Internet' c= an become the only Internet a large portion of population will get access to. Services offer the possibility to overcome the limitations of individual mo= bile devices by making functionality offered by others available to them on an "as-needed" basis. Thus, using the service-oriented computing paradigm in mobile environments will considerably enlarge the variety of accessible applications and will enable new business opportunities in the mobile space by delivering integrated functionalities across wireless networks. Network hosted mobile services will allow mobile operators and third party mobile services provider to extend their businesses by making their network services available to a broader audience (e.g. developers, service providers, etc.); device hosted service will allow great potential for big innovations= for applications and services that can be provided by individual mobile device owners. These mobile services offer functionalities and behaviors that can be described, advertised, discovered, and composed by others. Eventually, they will be able to interoperate even though they have not been designed to work together. This type of interoperability is based on the ability to understand other services and reason about their functionalities and behaviors when necessary. In this respect, mobile services can benefit from marrying the Semantic Web, which provides the infrastructure for the extensive usage of distributed knowledge, to be deployed for modeling services and add meaning, through ontologies, enabling lightweight discovery and composition of mobile services. The ability to appropriately combine mobility and semantic grounded data sharing has generated and is continuously triggering challenging questions in several areas of computer science, engineering and networking. This workshop aims to tackle the research problems around methods, concepts, models, languages and technologies that enable new opportunities in the mobile space through adoption, usage, and integration of mobile services and ontologies. Of particular interest are the methodologies and technologies that would allow automatic tasks to be performed with respect to mobile services and the use of ontologies in this context. This proposed workshop aims to bring together researchers and industry attendees addressing many of these issues, and promote and foster a greater understanding of mobile service and ontologies and their potential in enabling new business opportunities in the mobile space. TOPICS The following indicates the general focus of the workshop. However, related contributions are welcome as well. - Service-oriented architectures for mobile internet services - languages and methodologies for describing mobile Service-oriented system= s - discovery and matchmaking of ontology based services in the context of mobile service-oriented architectures - adaptive selection of services in mobile service-oriented architectures - ontology management in mobile environments - contracting and negotiation with ontology-based mobile services (service level agreements) - approaches to composition of ontology based services in the context of mo= bile service-oriented systems - invocation, adaptive execution, monitoring, and management of mobile serv= ices - interaction protocols and conversation models for mobile services-oriente= d architectures - ontology-based security and privacy issues in mobile service-oriented sys= tems - applications of mobile service-oriented architectures - analysis and design approaches for mobile service-oriented architectures and services - reasoning with mobile services - ontology-based policies for mobile service-oriented architectures - tools for discovery, matchmaking, selection, mediation, composition, management, and monitoring of services in a mobile world - mobile service development - ontologies in dependable service provisioning WORKSHOP FORMAT AND ATTENDANCE The program will occupy a full day, and will include presentations of papers selected from the full papers category (see 'submissions' below). Please note that at least one author of each accepted submission must attend the workshop. The MDM 2007 conference formalities are applied for fees and respective organizational aspects. Submission of a paper is not required for attendance at the workshop. However, in the event that the workshop cannot accommodate all who would like to participate, those who have submitted a paper (in any category) will be given priority for registration. SUBMISSIONS Two categories of submissions are solicited: (1) Full papers (up to 5 pages). (2) Position papers (up to 2 pages). All submissions should be formatted in the IEEE style. Formatting instructions and LaTeX macros are available on the IEEE computer society site: LaTex macros: * ftp://pubftp.computer.org/Press/Outgoing/proceedings/IEEE_CS_Latex.zi= p Formatting instructions: * ftp://pubftp.computer.org/Press/Outgoing/proceedings/instruct.doc * ftp://pubftp.computer.org/Press/Outgoing/proceedings/instruct.pdf * ftp://pubftp.computer.org/Press/Outgoing/proceedings/instruct.ps All accepted full papers as well as all position papers of attendees will be published in post workshop proceedings in IEEE DL. Additionally, authors of selected papers will have the opportunity to submit extended versions of their papers for the upcoming MoSO journal issue. All the papers should be submitted in electronic format (pdf version) using the link: http://www.easychair.org/MoSO2007/. INVITED SPEAKER Dr. Henry Tirri, Nokia Fellow IMPORTANT DATES Submissions (extended): March 7, 2007 Acceptance: March 20, 2007 Final copy: April 1, 2007 Workshops day: May 11, 2007 ORGANIZING COMMITTEE Nelson Baloian (University of Chile, Chile) Dumitru Roman (DERI Innsbruck, Austria) Jari Veijalainen (University of Jyv=E4skyl=E4, Finland) PROGRAM COMMITTEE Martin Bauer, NEC Europe Ltd, Germany Sonia Ben Mokhtar, Inria, France Richard Benjamins, ISOCO, Spain Yolande Berbers, Katholieke Universiteit Leuven, Belgium Patricia Charlton. Motorola Labs, UK John Domingue, Open University, UK Fabien Gandon, INRIA Sophia Antipolis, France Nikolaos Georgantas, INRIA, France Martin Hepp, DERI Innsbruck, Austria Eero Hyv=F6nen, Helsinki Univ. of Technology, Finland Qun Jin, Waseda University, Japan Wai Gen Yee, Illinois Institute of Technology, USA Takahiro Kawamura, Toshiba Corp, Japan Ryszard Kowalczyk, SWIN, Australia Antonio Liotta, Univ. of Essex, UK Vladimir Oleshchuk, HIA, Norway Stefan Poslad, Queen Mary Univ., UK Tore Risch, Uppsala University, Sweden Brahmananda Sapkota, DERI Galway, Ireland Steffen Staab, University of Koblenz, Germany Thomas Strang, University of Innsbruck, Austria Vlad Tanasescu, Open University, UK Do van Thanh, Telenor, Norway Ioan Toma, DERI Innsbruck, Austria Kristian Torp, Univ. of Aalborg, Denmark Aphrodite Tsalgatiodou, University of Athens, Greece Gustavo Zurita, Universidad de Chile, Chile Alexander Wahler, Hanival mbH, Austria _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 02 02:36:18 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HN2HT-0006j0-C3; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:34:19 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HN2HS-0006iq-BX for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:34:18 -0500 Received: from email2.etri.re.kr ([129.254.16.132] helo=email2.etri.info) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HN2HQ-0006TL-KA for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:34:18 -0500 Received: from etri964caf1384 ([129.254.112.135]) by email2.etri.info with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:39:03 +0900 Message-ID: <00bf01c75c9d$2db0f0a0$8770fe81@etri964caf1384> From: "Dominik Kaspar" To: "Ian Chakeres" References: <00e001c75ada$4f4068a0$8770fe81@etri964caf1384> <374005f30702280900x745fa0c5w5e1c4d225184d075@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:34:14 +0900 Organization: ETRI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2007 07:39:03.0178 (UTC) FILETIME=[D97C6EA0:01C75C9D] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f49c97ce49302a02285a2d36a99eef8c Cc: 6lowpan@lists.ietf.org, manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Re: [6lowpan] For comments: 6LoWPAN Mesh Routing Requirements X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Ian, all, Ian, thanks a lot for your fast reply and detailed commenting on the "6LoWPAN Mesh Routing Requirements" draft [http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dokaspar-6lowpan-routreq-00.txt]. I'm taking the right to post this answer to both the 6lowpan and MANET working groups, as MANET folks might be interested in this discussion as well. Ian, I find your inputs very reasonable, but they made me feel that the term "6lowpan" is not yet defined precisely enough to set up a strict set of 6lowpan routing requirements. For example, you give me the scenario of a 6lowpan network, in which all devices are powered and power usage is not important. But if I read the "6lowpan Problem Statement" [http://tools.ietf.org/wg/6lowpan/draft-ietf-6lowpan-problem], I'm not sure if such a set-up could still be called a 6lowpan, because that document explains that in a LoWPAN "typically, some or all devices are battery operated." This draft's intention is to provide the primary design goals of 6lowpan mesh routing and to stimulate responses for defining a set of requirements. The requirements I listed are still as vague as the term "6lowpan" itself, not at all proven and not fixed yet. I will keep all of your detailed comments on the requirements in mind for a next revision. Also, it has already been my intention to include a Section about what exactly the differences are between routing in a MANET and in a LoWPAN. Best regards, Dominik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Chakeres" To: "Dominik Kaspar" Cc: <6lowpan@lists.ietf.org> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 2:00 AM Subject: Re: [6lowpan] For comments: 6LoWPAN Mesh Routing Requirements > > Good to see some requirements for 6lowpan routing. > > Personally, I'd like to know what can't be done with MANET protocols > and why. Hopefully, a future version will include this information. If > you have any comments please send them to me or the MANET list. > > Ian > > I have some quick comments about the document. > > I don't think LQI by itself should be used. LQI must be matched with > other indicators to make good decisions. LQI can be bad for routing. > Similarly, shortest path can be bad. > > I think that operating with low routing state should be an > additionally goal. For example, if devices have only 32 forwarding > entries available. This fact could probably be captured in one of the > existing sections. > > Regarding the requirements section: > > I think that R2 is a bad requirement. I would instead say that routing > should be efficient. Efficiency can be defined in many ways. There > might be 6lowpan networks where all devices are power so power usage > is not important. Alternatively there might be nodes that choose not > to participate even though they have energy. I think that requiring > minimal energy routing is too harsh and unrealistic. > > R3. I would say that 6lowpan works below IP. Therefore, > interconnection is not seamless but below IP. Some device will need to > bridge (PAN coordinator or gateway) this gap. For example, RFD edge > devices will likely not include this capability. > > R4. I'm not sure that routing needs to be aware of sleeping nodes. We > could reverse the requirement and say that sleeping nodes must be > aware of routing. Or we could create a routing protocol that should > work independent of the sleep schedule. For example, flooding. > > R5. How do we measure simplicity and robustness? How much simplicity > and robustness are required by the various 6lowpan players? > > R6. How mobile? How dynamic? > > R7. Are you referring to IPv6 ND or routing (L2 in this case) > neighbor(hood) discovery? > > R9. What is the scalability requirement? How many nodes & at what density? > > R10. Is L2 (WEP like) security enough? > > Ian > > > On 2/27/07, Dominik Kaspar wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> A new Internet-Draft has just been submitted to emphasize the importance >> of >> mesh routing in LoWPANs. I believe that well thought-out mesh routing is >> a >> vital precondition for fully functional LoWPANs and should be discussed >> in >> more detail within the 6lowpan working group. >> >> Comments are welcomed for the Internet-Draft titled: >> "Design Goals and Requirements for 6LoWPAN Mesh Routing" >> >> Abstract: >> This document defines the problem statement, design goals, and >> requirements >> for mesh routing in low-power wireless personal area networks (LoWPANs). >> >> A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >> www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dokaspar-6lowpan-routreq-00.txt >> >> Best regards, >> Dominik >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 6lowpan mailing list >> 6lowpan@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lowpan >> > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 02 03:27:47 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HN36p-0007io-L7; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 03:27:23 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HN36o-0007fA-C4 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 03:27:22 -0500 Received: from server9.hosting2go.nl ([83.137.192.232]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HN36e-0006qL-6C for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 03:27:22 -0500 Received: (qmail 14059 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2007 09:26:47 +0100 Received: from ip56530916.direct-adsl.nl (HELO Teco) (86.83.9.22) by server9.hosting2go.nl with SMTP; 2 Mar 2007 09:26:47 +0100 From: "Teco Boot" To: , , Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:27:17 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01c75ca4$a8d323f0$0202a8c0@Teco> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcdUK8k+A7SiZOnzTwa3CZBk2ogGYAFdmJqAAMA7VyA= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d17f825e43c9aed4fd65b7edddddec89 Cc: Subject: [manet] RE: draft-boot-manet-nemo-analysis-00.txt X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hi All, The I-D "Analysis of MANET and NEMO" is published on IETF: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-boot-manet-nemo-analysis-00.txt I was requested to publish the link for the I-D on the WG MLs. I ask special attention on the "Worst Path First syndrome", section 3.7. Regards, Teco _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 02 09:25:52 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HN8gC-00022r-Di; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:24:16 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HN8gA-00022m-HM for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:24:14 -0500 Received: from anyida.tts.lth.se ([130.235.18.10]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HN8g8-0003D4-I3 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:24:14 -0500 Received: from Barbarcw (ida69 [130.235.18.69]) by anyida.tts.lth.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16593 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:24:26 +0100 (MET) From: "Christer Wibom" To: Subject: [manet] Dymo hopcount update implementation question. Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:24:14 +0100 Message-ID: <000301c75cd6$7448bff0$d732eb82@Barbarcw> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acdc1nOMBQm4baCERqCQEZUHBq5SKQ== X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08aa56e70047071f9a3037af5750d40e X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0043814772==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0043814772== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C75CDE.D60D27F0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C75CDE.D60D27F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. At the moment I'm doing my masters thesis at Lund University (Sweden) and we are looking at dymo and trying to understand the drafts. My question is as follows: Should you update the hopcount, Add.TLV.Node.Hopcnt, in each element before you update the local routing table, RT, or after updating the RT? (Does it matter?) We are worried that in some circumstances it would matter. (We haven't found any yet. But are speculating about an installation of nodes where different vendors implementation of DYMO are being used, where the have different implementations on the hopcount increment) We are using NS, using the latest DYMOUM implementation, to do some simulations. To clarify my point I'm going to give you an example: Let's assume the following static node distribution: 0 1 5 2 4 3 Each node can only communicate with its closest neighbour. Node 0 wants to send some data to node 3. Possible ways are 0-5-4-3 or 0-1-2-3 In my NS simulation the RREQ yhat first comes to node 3 comes from node 4 and looks like this: node 3: generic_process_message: RREQ received in nsif from 4 r 10.005081676 _3_ RTR --- 70 DYMOUM 72 [0 ffffffff 4 800] ------- [4:255 -1:255 1 0] [ RE 0 0 52 8 0 1 3 0 0 [0 0 2 0 2 78] [0 0 1 5 2 78] [0 0 0 4 2 78] ] Some explanations to NS log file ( truncated to only show relevant parts ) [ RE 0 0 52 8 0 1 3 0 0 [ g-bit prefix hop_count node_address node_seq_nbr energyLevel ] [.] [.] ] RT for node 3 after processing RREQ from node 4. NS timeStamp 10.005081676 [ 4, 4, 1, 2 ] [ 5, 4, 2, 2 ] [ 0, 4, 3, 2 ] Where every RT entry should be interpreted is as follows: [destination, next hop, nbr. hops to destination, seq. nbr. of destination ] Here we se that the original code of DYMOUM updated hopcount to node 0 before adding it to the RT. When the second RREQ reaches node 3 ( from 2 ) it should be dropt as inferior ( and so it is) We changed the DYMOUM code to increment hopcount after info was added to the RT, with the following result: r 10.005081676 _3_ RTR --- 70 DYMOUM 72 [0 ffffffff 4 800] ------- [4:255 -1:255 1 0] [ RE 0 0 52 8 0 1 3 0 0 [0 0 2 0 2 78] [0 0 1 5 2 78] [0 0 0 4 2 78] ] node 3: generic_process_message: RREQ received in nsif from 4 RT for node 3 after processing RREQ from node 4. NS timeStamp 10.005081676 [ 4, 4, 0, 2 ] [ 5, 4, 1, 2 ] [ 0, 4, 2, 2 ] Here we see that the routing entry to host 0 hopcount matches info that we got in RM. We get the same result as before when the RREQ comes from node 2. We consulted the Dymo draft 07 section 4.1 and found the following entry: Route.HopCnt The number of intermediate node hops traversed before reaching the Route.Address node. Route.HopCnt assists in determining whether received routing information is superior to existing known information. We don't know how to interpreter this. should it be 2 hops from node 3 to node 2 or should it be 3 hops.. Yours sincerely Christer Wibom ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C75CDE.D60D27F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi.

 

At the moment I’m doing my masters = thesis at Lund University (Sweden) and we are looking at dymo and trying to understand the = drafts.

 

My question is as = follows:

        = ;            =   Should you update the hopcount, Add.TLV.Node.Hopcnt, in each element before you = update the local routing table, RT, or after updating the RT? (Does it = matter?)

        = ;            =   We are worried that in some circumstances it would matter. (We = haven’t found any yet… But are speculating about an installation of nodes where = different vendors implementation of DYMO are being used, where the have different implementations on the hopcount increment)

 

We are using NS, using the latest DYMOUM = implementation, to do some simulations. To clarify my point I’m going to give you = an example:

 

 

Let’s assume the following static node distribution:

        = ;            =   =             &= nbsp;         = 0

1           = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;          5

 

2           = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;          4

3

 

Each node can only communicate with its = closest neighbour.

Node 0 wants to send some data to node = 3.

Possible ways are 0-5-4-3 or = 0-1-2-3

 

In my NS simulation the RREQ yhat first comes = to node 3 comes from node 4 and looks like this:

 

node 3: generic_process_message: RREQ received = in nsif from 4

r 10.005081676 _3_ = RTR  --- 70 DYMOUM 72 [0 ffffffff 4 800] ------- [4:255 -1:255 1 0] [ RE 0 0 = 52 8 0 1 3 0 0 [0 0 2 0 2 78] [0 0 1 5 2 78] [0 0 0 4 2 78] = ]

 

Some explanations to NS log file ( truncated = to only show relevant parts )  

[ RE 0 0 52 8 0 1 3 0 0 [ g-bit prefix = hop_count node_address node_seq_nbr energyLevel ] […] […] = ]

 

RT for node 3 after processing RREQ from node = 4. NS timeStamp 10.005081676

[ 4, 4, 1, 2 ]

[ 5, 4, 2, 2 ]

[ 0, 4, 3, 2 ]

 

Where every RT entry should be interpreted is = as follows:

[destination, next hop, nbr. hops to = destination, seq. nbr. of destination ]

 

Here we se that the original code of DYMOUM = updated hopcount to node 0 before adding it to the RT.

 

When the second RREQ reaches node 3 ( from 2 ) = it should be dropt as inferior ( and so it is)

 

We changed the DYMOUM code to increment = hopcount after info was added to the RT, with the following = result:

 

r = 10.005081676 _3_ RTR  --- 70 DYMOUM 72 [0 ffffffff 4 800] ------- [4:255 -1:255 1 0] = [ RE 0 0 52 8 0 1 3 0 0 [0 0 2 0 2 78] [0 0 1 5 2 78] [0 0 0 4 2 78] = ]

 

node 3: generic_process_message: RREQ received = in nsif from 4

RT for node 3 after processing RREQ from node = 4. NS timeStamp 10.005081676

[ 4, 4, 0, 2 ]

[ 5, 4, 1, 2 ]

[ 0, 4, 2, 2 ]

 

Here we see that the routing entry to host 0 = hopcount matches info that we got in RM.

 

We get the same result as before when the RREQ = comes from node 2.

 

We consulted the Dymo draft 07 section 4.1 and = found the following entry:

Route.HopCnt

The number of intermediate node hops traversed before reaching = the

Route.Address node. Route.HopCnt assists in determining = whether

received routing information is superior to existing = known

information.

We don’t know how to interpreter = this… should it be 2 hops from node 3 to node 2 or should it be 3 = hops….

 

 

Yours sincerely

        = ;            =   Christer Wibom

 

------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C75CDE.D60D27F0-- --===============0043814772== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============0043814772==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 02 09:39:38 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HN8tz-0000Cd-LA; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:38:31 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HN8ty-0000CX-Uo for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:38:30 -0500 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.234]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HN8tx-0005Ol-J5 for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:38:30 -0500 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h31so820301wxd for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 06:38:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LXU+x7xm+0btZacLTGsawkx4/3F6fakRdQfZkfTiZ2JgOLKXusTJblAllKBojsthZZ4P0oU5c0c4JVGRbtNG3KCG5pgKWtTpOkROiQ66Ms23q6btt+dVNDiGsi7TlwVSP3syXCxt8W4B3kfzcIPVcoZ9mVZlUj5WAhMNPztaoj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bOPpqIL68iAsgj3Uz56IIz09IDqtFdaqikij8SSz1dv1hDyBiPaYKBEKrIMf0ID8z1jM59ZOZ0Nd/Gc5DxhrrHMM/iMWhi/6o+Y5Rz1vRpzY3j0sSMkYjjjaThnHyZ6SDRGbzT2i24Gg4QF6C9rM3oimTcWvsKDphrOip7/m6N8= Received: by 10.90.98.10 with SMTP id v10mr1882054agb.1172846309451; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 06:38:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.26.10 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 06:38:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:38:29 +0100 From: "Romain Thouvenin" To: "Christer Wibom" Subject: Re: [manet] Dymo hopcount update implementation question. In-Reply-To: <000301c75cd6$7448bff0$d732eb82@Barbarcw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <000301c75cd6$7448bff0$d732eb82@Barbarcw> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 31b28e25e9d13a22020d8b7aedc9832c Cc: manet@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hi, I didn't read all the description of your example, but here is what I can s= ay : According to the draft, MsgHdr.HopCnt and each AddTLV.HopCnt are incremented before processing anything (5.3.4 - RM processing). And I think it does matter. So Neighbors are 1-hop nodes. Hope it helps, Romain On 3/2/07, Christer Wibom wrote: > > > > > Hi. > > > > At the moment I'm doing my masters thesis at Lund University (Sweden) and= we > are looking at dymo and trying to understand the drafts. > > > > My question is as follows: > > Should you update the hopcount, Add.TLV.Node.Hopcnt= , > in each element before you update the local routing table, RT, or after > updating the RT? (Does it matter?) > > We are worried that in some circumstances it would > matter. (We haven't found any yet=85 But are speculating about an install= ation > of nodes where different vendors implementation of DYMO are being used, > where the have different implementations on the hopcount increment) > > > > We are using NS, using the latest DYMOUM implementation, to do some > simulations. To clarify my point I'm going to give you an example: > > > > > > Let's assume the following static node distribution: > > 0 > > 1 > 5 > > > > 2 > 4 > > 3 > > > > Each node can only communicate with its closest neighbour. > > Node 0 wants to send some data to node 3. > > Possible ways are 0-5-4-3 or 0-1-2-3 > > > > In my NS simulation the RREQ yhat first comes to node 3 comes from node 4 > and looks like this: > > > > node 3: generic_process_message: RREQ received in nsif from 4 > > r 10.005081676 _3_ RTR --- 70 DYMOUM 72 [0 ffffffff 4 800] ------- [4:25= 5 > -1:255 1 0] [ RE 0 0 52 8 0 1 3 0 0 [0 0 2 0 2 78] [0 0 1 5 2 78] [0 0 0 = 4 2 > 78] ] > > > > Some explanations to NS log file ( truncated to only show relevant parts = ) > > [ RE 0 0 52 8 0 1 3 0 0 [ g-bit prefix hop_count node_address node_seq_nb= r > energyLevel ] [=85] [=85] ] > > > > RT for node 3 after processing RREQ from node 4. NS timeStamp 10.00508167= 6 > > [ 4, 4, 1, 2 ] > > [ 5, 4, 2, 2 ] > > [ 0, 4, 3, 2 ] > > > > Where every RT entry should be interpreted is as follows: > > [destination, next hop, nbr. hops to destination, seq. nbr. of destinatio= n ] > > > > Here we se that the original code of DYMOUM updated hopcount to node 0 > before adding it to the RT. > > > > When the second RREQ reaches node 3 ( from 2 ) it should be dropt as > inferior ( and so it is) > > > > We changed the DYMOUM code to increment hopcount after info was added to = the > RT, with the following result: > > > > r 10.005081676 _3_ RTR --- 70 DYMOUM 72 [0 ffffffff 4 800] ------- [4:25= 5 > -1:255 1 0] [ RE 0 0 52 8 0 1 3 0 0 [0 0 2 0 2 78] [0 0 1 5 2 78] [0 0 0 = 4 2 > 78] ] > > > > node 3: generic_process_message: RREQ received in nsif from 4 > > RT for node 3 after processing RREQ from node 4. NS timeStamp 10.00508167= 6 > > [ 4, 4, 0, 2 ] > > [ 5, 4, 1, 2 ] > > [ 0, 4, 2, 2 ] > > > > Here we see that the routing entry to host 0 hopcount matches info that w= e > got in RM. > > > > We get the same result as before when the RREQ comes from node 2. > > > > We consulted the Dymo draft 07 section 4.1 and found the following entry: > > Route.HopCnt > > The number of intermediate node hops traversed before reaching the > > Route.Address node. Route.HopCnt assists in determining whether > > received routing information is superior to existing known > > information. > > We don't know how to interpreter this=85 should it be 2 hops from node 3 = to > node 2 or should it be 3 hops=85. > > > > > > Yours sincerely > > Christer Wibom > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 02 11:32:45 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNAfc-000095-6i; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:31:48 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNAfa-0008OQ-EK; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:31:46 -0500 Received: from mail128.messagelabs.com ([216.82.250.131]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNAfZ-000752-2P; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:31:46 -0500 X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: alexandru.petrescu@motorola.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-128.messagelabs.com!1172853103!3309881!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7.1; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.189.100.105] Received: (qmail 24366 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2007 16:31:44 -0000 Received: from motgate5.mot.com (HELO motgate5.mot.com) (144.189.100.105) by server-15.tower-128.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2007 16:31:44 -0000 Received: from az33exr03.mot.com (az33exr03.mot.com [10.64.251.233]) by motgate5.mot.com (8.12.11/Motorola) with ESMTP id l22GVUXY004489; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:31:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.161.201.117] (zfr01-2117.crm.mot.com [10.161.201.117]) by az33exr03.mot.com (8.13.1/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l22GVRG4004041; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:31:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <45E8515F.5040703@motorola.com> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:31:27 +0100 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Teco Boot Subject: Re: WPF syndrome and MONAMI6 (was: [manet] RE: draft-boot-manet-nemo-analysis-00.txt) References: <000e01c75ca4$a8d323f0$0202a8c0@Teco> In-Reply-To: <000e01c75ca4$a8d323f0$0202a8c0@Teco> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b4a0a5f5992e2a4954405484e7717d8c Cc: nemo@ietf.org, manet@ietf.org, manemo@mobileip.jp, 'Monami6 WG' X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Teco Boot wrote: > Hi All, > > The I-D "Analysis of MANET and NEMO" is published on IETF: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-boot-manet-nemo-analysis-00.txt > > I was requested to publish the link for the I-D on the WG MLs. > I ask special attention on the "Worst Path First syndrome", section 3.7. Thanks for pointing to the MANEMO WPF syndrome problem, let me paste the illustrative figure here: > +-----+ > | MR1 | > +-----+ > 11Mbps / | > loss / | > <1% / | 1Mbps > +-+-+ | loss ~50% > |MR2| | > +-+-+ | > 11Mbps \ | > loss \ | > <1% \ | > +-+-+ > |MR3| > +---+ >[...] > [MR3] Selecting the direct path to MR1 is the worst in terms of > bandwidth (1Mbps where 11Mbps is available), packet loss (50% where > less than 2% is available) and used spectrum (single transmission > over 1Mbps takes more time for sending a packet than 2 times over > 11Mbps). I think this problem looks very much like a problem where a Mobile Host is presented with two WiFi access networks, without any hint about which is better to the Internet. This problem is not documented as such, but I believe MONAMI6 describes a similar problem with 'multi-homing' terms: draft-ietf-monami6-mipv6-analysis-02.txt: > (H1,Cn): [Mobile Host has] 1 HoA, n CoAs > > Another possible configuration is a MN with several interfaces > connected to different links. Note that one of the interfaces of the > MN may be connected to its home link. > > Achievable goals: Reliability, Load Sharing, Interface switching (if > the MN is equipped with several interfaces) [...] o Load Sharing > and Interface Switching > > This configuration allows to share the load and set preferences among > different paths between the HA and the MN when BT mode is used, and > between the CN and the MN when RO mode is used. In order to achieve > load sharing and interface switching under this scenario, the MN > would need to register several CoAs with its unique HoA. However, > the present specification of MIPv6 only allows the MN to register a > single CoA per HoA. This is discussed in Section 6.2.1. When a > single HoA is bounded to several CoAs at the same time, the MN or > HA/CN must be able to select the appropriate CoA. Based on this comparison, do you think that WPF syndrome is related to the (H1, Cn) MONAMI6 Scenario? Or to another MONAMI6 Scenario? Or not at all to MONAMI6? Alex _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 02 12:11:58 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNBI2-0000Vh-Re; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:11:30 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNBI1-0000VS-Nl for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:11:29 -0500 Received: from server9.hosting2go.nl ([83.137.192.232]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNBI0-0003IU-9c for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:11:29 -0500 Received: (qmail 31915 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2007 18:11:18 +0100 Received: from ip56530916.direct-adsl.nl (HELO Teco) (86.83.9.22) by server9.hosting2go.nl with SMTP; 2 Mar 2007 18:11:18 +0100 From: "Teco Boot" To: "'Alexandru Petrescu'" Subject: RE: WPF syndrome and MONAMI6 (was: [manet] RE: draft-boot-manet-nemo-analysis-00.txt) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:11:52 +0100 Message-ID: <005501c75ced$f1977cf0$0202a8c0@Teco> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: AAAAADjdVTPUEM1Dtq7I+AbzzyCk+iAA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acdc6ETQ0dBGPGxSRcePJ01wwnEjpAAANsow X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 93238566e09e6e262849b4f805833007 Cc: nemo@ietf.org, manet@ietf.org, manemo@mobileip.jp, 'Monami6 WG' X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Alexandry wrote: > Based on this comparison, do you think that WPF syndrome is related to > the (H1, Cn) MONAMI6 Scenario? Or to another MONAMI6 Scenario? Or not > at all to MONAMI6? [Teco] In MIP / NEMO, the egress interface is used to reach HA/CN. In MANET & MANEMO, there is the concept of the MANET interface. Both have the WPF problem. Problem can occur also when multiple router interfaces are used, but metrics on interface by interface basis can be used. MONAMI6 could have the WPF problem, but there could also be the assumption that there is only one wireless hop to the backbone and the backbone has large BW related to the wireless hop. Using local L2 metrics can be sufficient in this case. Selecting the best neighbor / next hop by MIP / NEMO where multiple wireless hops are used, the WPF problem can occur as I described. MANEMO tree discovery RA-TIO mechanisms could be used for selecting the best (or worst) neighbor by all nodes, thus including hosts. Just picking one ignoring any metric is gambling. _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 02 13:46:09 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNCk5-0002qK-9m; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:44:33 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNCk2-0002q8-U8; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:44:30 -0500 Received: from s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil ([132.250.83.3]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNCk1-000101-HA; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:44:30 -0500 Received: from smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil [132.250.86.3]) by s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.8) with SMTP id l22IiEa3015494; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:44:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from SEXTANT [132.250.92.22]) by smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (SMSSMTP 4.1.12.43) with SMTP id M2007030213441316039 ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:44:13 -0500 From: "Joe Macker" To: "'Teco Boot'" , , , References: <000e01c75ca4$a8d323f0$0202a8c0@Teco> Subject: RE: [manet] RE: draft-boot-manet-nemo-analysis-00.txt Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:44:10 -0500 Message-ID: <03b801c75cfa$c46cc2f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcdUK8k+A7SiZOnzTwa3CZBk2ogGYAFdmJqAAMA7VyAAFTXi0A== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <000e01c75ca4$a8d323f0$0202a8c0@Teco> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 52e1467c2184c31006318542db5614d5 Cc: X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org A basic comment.. Cost-based metrics, not necessarily hop count, for many real world MANET protocols (e.g., OLSR, MANET-OSPF) have been demonstrated. There is also a Min-Max path selection problem which you do not discuss that would occur in more complex topologies. -Joe >-----Original Message----- >From: Teco Boot [mailto:teco@inf-net.nl] >Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 3:27 AM >To: manemo@mobileip.jp; manet@ietf.org; nemo@ietf.org >Subject: [manet] RE: draft-boot-manet-nemo-analysis-00.txt > >Hi All, > >The I-D "Analysis of MANET and NEMO" is published on IETF: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-boot-manet-nemo-analy sis-00.txt > >I was requested to publish the link for the I-D on the WG MLs. >I ask special attention on the "Worst Path First syndrome", >section 3.7. > >Regards, Teco > > > >_______________________________________________ >manet mailing list >manet@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 02 14:21:36 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNDJE-00048X-AS; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:20:52 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNDJC-00047y-4O for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:20:50 -0500 Received: from server9.hosting2go.nl ([83.137.192.232]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNDJA-0006HG-Iy for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:20:50 -0500 Received: (qmail 15698 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2007 20:13:53 +0100 Received: from ip56530916.direct-adsl.nl (HELO Teco) (86.83.9.22) by server9.hosting2go.nl with SMTP; 2 Mar 2007 20:13:53 +0100 From: "Teco Boot" To: "'Joe Macker'" Subject: RE: [manet] RE: draft-boot-manet-nemo-analysis-00.txt Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:14:26 +0100 Message-ID: <005901c75cff$107d2000$0202a8c0@Teco> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: AAAAADjdVTPUEM1Dtq7I+AbzzyAE/CAA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcdUK8k+A7SiZOnzTwa3CZBk2ogGYAFdmJqAAMA7VyAAFTXi0AABUptQ X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7655788c23eb79e336f5f8ba8bce7906 Cc: nemo@ietf.org, manet@ietf.org, manemo@mobileip.jp X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Joe wrote: > Cost-based metrics, not necessarily hop count, for many real world MANET > protocols (e.g., OLSR, MANET-OSPF) have been demonstrated. There is also > a > Min-Max path selection problem which you do not discuss that would occur > in > more complex topologies. > [Teco] I test in a life testbed, with OSPF / others. It is almost a perfect copy of real deployment. As long as there is not a dynamic (L2 based) metric on a per neighbor basis, the WPF syndrome occurs. And no working solution yet. OLSR-ETX would be a candidate mechanism. Jari Arkko asked us focussing on the (MANEMO) problem statement and not on solutions. And he did not agree there is a need for L2 metrics. I will check Min-Max. _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 02 15:52:56 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNEj6-000326-4J; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:51:40 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNEha-0000UG-Hc; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:50:06 -0500 Received: from ns1.neustar.com ([2001:503:c779:1a::9c9a:108a]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNEhZ-0001SE-U1; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:50:06 -0500 Received: from stiedprstage1.ietf.org (stiedprstage1.va.neustar.com [10.31.47.10]) by ns1.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B5A26F14; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:50:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ietf by stiedprstage1.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HNEhX-0002Z7-VB; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:50:03 -0500 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Message-Id: Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:50:03 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Scan-Signature: 057ebe9b96adec30a7efb2aeda4c26a4 Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-03.txt X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group of the IETF. Title : The Optimized Link State Routing Protocol version 2 Author(s) : T. Clausen, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-03.txt Pages : 72 Date : 2007-3-2 This document describes version 2 of the Optimized Link State Routing (OLSRv2) protocol for mobile ad hoc networks. The protocol embodies an optimization of the classical link state algorithm tailored to the requirements of a mobile ad hoc network (MANET). The key optimization of OLSRv2 is that of multipoint relays, providing an efficient mechanism for network-wide broadcast of link state information (i.e. reducing the cost of performing a network- wide link state broadcast). A secondary optimization is that OLSRv2 employs partial link state information: each node maintains information about all destinations, but only a subset of links. 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This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group of the IETF. Title : Generalized MANET Packet/Message Format Author(s) : T. Clausen, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-manet-packetbb-04.txt Pages : 36 Date : 2007-3-2 This document specifies a multi-message packet format that may be used by mobile ad hoc network routing and other protocols. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-manet-packetbb-04.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-manet-packetbb-04.txt". 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-3-2141213.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-manet-packetbb-04.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-manet-packetbb-04.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-3-2141213.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --NextPart-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 02 22:55:52 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNLJY-0005YU-GF; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:53:44 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNLJX-0005Y3-Cb for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:53:43 -0500 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.185]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNLJW-0000BI-3R for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:53:43 -0500 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so1621143nfa for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 19:53:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=rxbKNpDZRvkS5XabqL5GZhlEXunkjzbso7Vbn9TsEM8zwLDQYptk74w3GP/yN/p6CwSkCxluOlR1whaH5mG7+F1BDU3yi52fq/goaLyBdX1uEvaAhZlqW4tnPy01lXBv/Qff2vGO17jc4fAtIZ7TsbWwmoRp20U52SAOyIdPuh0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=pITWjAXYyRd+cxLEKt6wwfE4IXgfcgvA5ZiBJ0wz/xjQFalfvz8rspJC0byM6vDo5yQExuhZUjNjsJqKc03hij8fF1guBlYvFFfbOSIlkXvalCbehcI9sR5kB6hpzgT29TFbknVaO754b+XaHZBNklBdhvMQnlzXNbPN1oYDnHI= Received: by 10.78.200.3 with SMTP id x3mr337714huf.1172894021711; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 19:53:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.45.10 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:53:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <374005f30703021953h501fa158r6276744dcdefc908@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:53:41 -0800 From: "Ian Chakeres" To: manet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d17f825e43c9aed4fd65b7edddddec89 Cc: Subject: [manet] IETF 68 MANET Preliminary Agenda X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org The MANET meeting in Prague will be held Wednesday afternoon - https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/meeting_agenda_html.cgi?meeting_num=68 I've posted a preliminary agenda - http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07mar/agenda/manet.txt If you would like to have a presentation slot during the meeting in Prague, please email Joe & I. See everyone soon, Ian Chakeres _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Sat Mar 03 05:20:25 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNRIL-0008QE-LB; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 05:16:53 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNRIK-0008PE-1F for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 05:16:52 -0500 Received: from web57913.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([68.142.236.106]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNRIE-0003rB-QK for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 05:16:52 -0500 Received: (qmail 30218 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Mar 2007 10:16:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=q3+oz2xn1Lw9uwujoR8LYCGHF8Ey4rNfgFwwkXXdrfIKj+lRida7DDMzEbEVrqVW0XwDTsdnwcPGtm5NXJiB9eyPeHN/JENDf+CQm+upVBhNY9mfZLgPb58u5jQwxwK9YhHVhpj4o0Jnr5+ERVl/RrFOCRUKQPhGoNrdMT0xQsU=; X-YMail-OSG: R0o4sf8VM1lDfVCuRKdTpJ7ZG8G99w6wONNg7F7XhN0q48101hOpZ4fm1XR4vod85g-- Received: from [193.95.37.75] by web57913.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 02:16:46 PST Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 02:16:46 -0800 (PST) From: dhib eya To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <674477.25007.qm@web57913.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0bc60ec82efc80c84b8d02f4b0e4de22 Subject: [manet] routing protocols in sensor networks X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1850251237==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============1850251237== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-221543001-1172917006=:25007" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --0-221543001-1172917006=:25007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Good morning, Hello everybody, I'm a master student and I need your help. Has anyone got the source code for SPIN (Sensor Protocol for Information Negociation) or SPEED protocol or SAR(Spatially Aware Routing) implemented using NS2? (these routing protocols are used in sensor networks) Your help would be really appreciated. Please reply and Thank you a lot in advance. My best regards, Eya --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. --0-221543001-1172917006=:25007 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Good morning,
 
Hello everybody, I'm a master student and I need your help.
Has anyone got the source code for SPIN (Sensor Protocol for Information Negociation) or SPEED protocol or SAR(Spatially Aware Routing) implemented using NS2?
(these routing protocols are used in sensor networks)
 
Your help would be really appreciated.
Please reply and Thank you a lot in advance.
 
My best regards,
Eya

Be a PS3 game guru.
Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. --0-221543001-1172917006=:25007-- --===============1850251237== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============1850251237==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Sat Mar 03 22:03:13 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNgy3-0001ln-So; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 22:00:59 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNgy2-0001le-3W for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 22:00:58 -0500 Received: from ee.tamu.edu ([165.91.241.199]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNgy0-0002a7-Mc for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 22:00:58 -0500 Received: from ECE149 (ece149.tamu.edu [165.91.208.72]) by ee.tamu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l2430i87006495; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:00:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001701c75e09$4fc4e990$48d05ba5@ECE149> From: "Dr. Xi Zhang" To: Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:00:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 68ba2b07ef271dba6ee42a93832cfa4c Cc: Subject: [manet] CFP IWCMC 2007, August 12-16, 2007, Honolulu, Hawaii, USA. (now open for submission) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org *Sorry for receiving multiple copies* Call For Papers for IWCMC 2007: _____________________ IWCMC 2007 (http://dropzone.tamu.edu/~xizhang/IWCMC07/IWCMC07.htm) August 12-16, 2007, Honolulu, Hawaii, USA Technical Sponsors: ACM (Approved) and IEEE (Pending) Submissions: EDAS (open now) "The Future is Now -- The New Era of Wireless Communications and Mobile Computing/Networking" The International Wireless Communications and Mobile Computing Conference 2007 (IWCMC 2007) will be held in Turtle Bay Resort Hotel, Honolulu, Hawaii, USA during August 12-16, 2007. Under our new theme of "The Future is Now -- The New Era of Wireless Communications and Mobile Computing/Networking" , IWCMC2007 is targeting at a wide spectrum of state-of-the-art as well as emerging topics pertaining to wireless networks, communications, and mobile computing. Continuing the great succeed of ACM IWCM 2006 last year, IWCMC 2007 is anticipated to attract an even larger volume of high quality submissions and stimulate the cutting-edge research discussions amongst many academic pioneering researchers/scientists and industrial engineers/leaders attendees from all around the world as was evidenced during ACM IWCMC 2006. The IWCMC 2007 program will feature a General Symposium, 8 Specific Technical Symposia, Workshop, and Tutorials Sessions. Prospective authors are invited to submit original technical papers to the corresponding IWCMC 2007 Symposia as listed below for oral presentation at IWCMC 2007 and publication in the IWCMC 2007 Conference Proceedings. IWCMC 2007 General Organizing Committee: General Co-Chairs: Mohsen Guizani, Western Michigan University, USA, Email: mguizani@ieee.org Hsiao-Hwa Chen, National Sun Yat-Sen University, Taiwan, Email: hshwchen@comm.nsysu.edu.tw Technical Program Committee Chair: Xi Zhang, Texas A&M University, USA, Email: xizhang@ece.tamu.edu Financial Chair: Eun K. Park, University of Missouri at Kansas City, USA, Email: ekpark@umkc.edu IWCMC 2007 Technical Symposia: General Symposium: Chair: Xuemin (Sherman) Shen, University of Waterloo, Canada, xshen@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Co-Chairs: Dongmei Zhao, McMaster University, Canada, dzhao@mail.ece.mcmaster.ca Hai Jiang, Princeton University, USA, haijiang@princeton.edu (1) Communication and Information Theory Symposium: Chair: Hamid Sadjadpour, University of California, Santa Cruz, USA, hamid@soe.ucsc.edu Ravi Narasimhan, University of California, Santa Cruz, USA ravi@soe.ucsc.edu (2) Computer and Network Security Symposium: Chair: Xiaojiang (James) Du, North Dakota State University, USA, xiaojiang.du@ndsu.edu Co-Chairs: Yang Xiao, University of Alabama, USA, yangxiao@ieee.org, Yong Guan, Iowa State University, USA, guan@iastate.edu (3) Cross-Layer Optimized Wireless Networks Symposium: Chair: Xi Zhang, Texas A&M University, USA, xizhang@ece.tamu.edu (4) Mobile Computing Symposium: Chair: Jie Li, University of Tsukuba, Japan, lijie@cs.tsukuba.ac.jp (5) Multimedia over Wireless Symposium: Chairs: Haohong Wang, Marvell Technology Group, USA, haohongwang@yahoo.com (6) Next Generation Mobile Networks Symposium (Website Link): Chair: Victor Leung, The University of British Columbia, Canada, vleung@ece.ubc.ca Co-Chairs: Ekram Hossain, University of Manitoba, Canada, ekram@ee.umanitoba.ca Javan Erfanian, Bell Mobility, Canada, javan.erfanian@bell.ca (7) Wireless Sensor Networks Symposium: Chair: Yang Yang, University College London, United Kingdom, y.yang@ee.ucl.ac.uk (8) Wireless LANs and Wireless PANs Symposium: Chair: Ehab Elmallah, University of Alberta, Canada, Canada, ehab@cs.ualberta.ca Co-Chair: Yang Xiao, University of Alabama, USA, yangxiao@ieee.org (9) Workshop Chair: Song Ci, University of Nebraska-Lincoln, USA sci@engr.unl.edu Co-Chair: Yi Cui, Vanderbilt University, USA yi.cui@vanderbilt.edu IMPORTANT DATES: Full Paper Submission: March 30, 2007 (updated) Notification of Acceptance: May 30, 2007 Camera-Ready Version/Copyright Form Submission: TBA Registration Deadline for Authors: TBA Hotel Reservation Deadline: TBA _____________________ ========================================================================= Xi Zhang Assistant Professor Dept. of Elec. & Comput. Engin. Phone: 979-458-1416 Texas A&M University Fax: 979-845-2630 333N WERC Building Email: xizhang@ece.tamu.edu College Station, Texas 77843, USA URL http://dropzone.tamu.edu/~xizhang ========================================================================= _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Sat Mar 03 22:03:21 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNh0L-0002UE-CH; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 22:03:21 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNh0K-0002S0-4H for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 22:03:20 -0500 Received: from ee.tamu.edu ([165.91.241.199]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNh0F-0002xr-Mc for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 22:03:20 -0500 Received: from ECE149 (ece149.tamu.edu [165.91.208.72]) by ee.tamu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l24328mb006634; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:02:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002901c75e09$81d3da90$48d05ba5@ECE149> From: "Dr. Xi Zhang" To: Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:02:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3fbd9b434023f8abfcb1532abaec7a21 Cc: Subject: [manet] CFP QShine 2007, August 14-17, 2007, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org *Sorry for receiving multiple copies* Call for Papers for QShine 2007 ------------ The Fourth International Conference on Heterogeneous Networking for Quality, Reliability, Security and Robustness (QShine 2007) http://www.qshine.org/ Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, August 14-17, 2007 Sponsored by Create-Net and ICST Technically Co-Sponsored by IEEE and ACM ******* Overview The Fourth International Conference on Heterogeneous Networking for Quality, Reliability, Security and Robustness (QShine 2007) will focus on the research challenges associated the design and implementation of large-scale wired and wireless networks and distributed systems. Following the tradition of the previous QShine meetings, QShine 2007 will feature prominent invited speakers as well as papers by top researchers in the field. ******* Scope The QShine program committee solicits original papers describing both experimental and theoretical results that address a wide spectrum of fundamental issues associated with the design and implementation of large scale heterogeneous networks and distributed systems. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to, the following: Quality of Service provisioning Design, implementation or architectures related to QoS-enabled networks and distributed systems Scheduling, resource management, queue management, and admission control Game-theoretic aspects in wired/peer-to-peer/overlay/wireless networks and distributed systems Incentive engineering in wired/peer-to-peer/overlay/wireless networks and distributed systems QoS routing in wired/peer-to-peer/overlay/wireless networks and distributed systems Traffic analysis, traffic engineering, and traffic shaping in heterogeneous environments Middleware for wired, peer-to-peer, overlay, and wireless networks and distributed systems QoS-aware service composition in distributed systems Security protocols and algorithms in wired, overlay and wireless networks Pricing, billing, and resource allocation in wired, overlay and wireless networks QoS adaptation, modeling and measurements Performance optimization in peer-to-peer and overlay networks Scalability of large-scale overlay and wireless networks Resilience of overlay and wireless protocols Cross-layer protocol design in wireless networks Energy-aware protocols and algorithms in wireless networks Cross-layer performance optimization for energy, network lifetime, and capacity Topology control for QoS support in wireless networks QoS in WLAN, WPAN, WMAN and WiMAX (IEEE 802.11/15/16/20) QoS support across heterogeneous wired and wireless subnetworks MAC protocols with QoS support QoS and survivability in mobile environments Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings. Papers of particular merit will be selected for consideration of fast track publication in ACM/Springer Mobile Networks and Applications (approved) or Elsevier Computer Networks (pending approval). ******* Keynote Speaker Dr. Victor Bahl, Microsoft (http://research.microsoft.com/~bahl) ******* Paper Submission QShine 2007 invites manuscripts that present original materials not previously published in, or currently under review by, another conference or journal. Submissions should be either full-length papers of up to 7 pages or short papers of up to 4 pages (including all figures and references) formatted according to http://www.acm.org/sigs/pubs/proceed/template.html with font sizes of 10 or larger. Full-length papers should report on completed work and will be considered for oral presentations. Short papers should report on work in progress or discuss open problems, and will be considered for poster presentations. A separate abstract of no longer than 200 words should be submitted as well. Submissions will be judged by their originality, significance, interest, clarity, relevance, and correctness. All papers should be electronically submitted in Adobe PDF format. Please follow the submission instructions at http://www.qshine.org/submission.html to submit your paper. ******* Important Dates Paper submission deadline: March 16, 2007, 11:59pm PST Notification of acceptance: May 11, 2007 Camera-ready papers due: May 31, 2007 Conference: August 14-17, 2007 ******* Organizing Committee General Chair Victor C. M. Leung, University of British Columbia, Canada General Vice-Chair Sastri Kota, Harris Corporation, USA Steering Committee Imrich Chlamtac, (Co-Chair) CreateNet, Italy Michael Fang, (Co-Chair) University of Florida, USA Xuemin (Sherman) Shen, (Co-Chair) University of Waterloo, Canada, Hisashi Kobayashi, Princeton University, USA Ariel Orda, Technion, Israel TPC Co-Chairs Guoliang Xue Arizona State University, USA Jelena Misic, University of Manitoba, Canada Poster Chair Ekram Hossain, University of Manitoba, Canada Publicity Chair Xi Zhang, Texas A&M University, USA Local Arrangement Chair Lin Cai, University of Victoria, Canada Workshop Chair Giovanni Giambene, Universita' degli Studi di Siena, Italy Sponsorship Chair Panos Nasiopoulos, University of British Columbia, Canada Publications Chair Qian Zhang, Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, China Finance Chair Karen Decker, ICST, USA Conference Coordination and Registration Kitti H. Kovacs, ICST, USA ========================================================================= Xi Zhang Assistant Professor Dept. of Elec. & Comput. Engin. Phone: 979-458-1416 Texas A&M University Fax: 979-845-2630 333N WERC Building Email: xizhang@ece.tamu.edu College Station, Texas 77843, USA URL http://dropzone.tamu.edu/~xizhang ========================================================================= _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Sun Mar 04 07:00:23 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNpLF-0000k1-3i; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 06:57:29 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNpLD-0000hm-IA for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 06:57:27 -0500 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.169]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNpL9-0004ul-6O for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 06:57:27 -0500 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 72so1023278ugd for ; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 03:57:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DEVX5RrY+EBb7/1BRDhPrjcjYgbrAyWzDOg5NpXJJgdMbSCftc4UK3YE3/teTvrtHSZ1UJtJPmwT3QMPaXscMEZSfBT7qE+wS8ohT/2XH0vfD7R++2pG42IAR38VIwJwY3ws80UKkbRRFCMHFrrLOdTtVIE6YkWhC84bZSSlPXs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rl9xhkpwXhtuSZ/VLszz4u9nm9EB2pbno7qQRXXxqPV8zHq68688spCbVS0cuQiS0DWrSZXnIXhfjMf2D1JHyCx+cyf314f4QW5fIG25OHWCnWtD7eYn9AYNP3+ESCoijdBhq9qW/CCCmz6lGT0dv65yGHlCvP6ka8CKhF5eRjw= Received: by 10.67.97.7 with SMTP id z7mr7841205ugl.1173009442526; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 03:57:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.103.12 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 03:57:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <146563590703040357y48a650c6qe048d3cdc2bfc5ad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 19:57:22 +0800 From: "chen jiming" To: manet@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <146563590702080812p72e126c9ve2710283f192dd79@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <146563590702080812p72e126c9ve2710283f192dd79@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 5a9a1bd6c2d06a21d748b7d0070ddcb8 Subject: [manet] postdoc research position in 2007, zhejiang University X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0167382139==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============0167382139== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_35489_19344092.1173009442484" ------=_Part_35489_19344092.1173009442484 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Contact: yxsun@iipc.zju.edu.cn With the success of project NSFC of China and NSFC of Zhejiang Province, which focus on communication and coordination control of wireless sensor actor networks, 2 postdoctoral Research Fellowships positions are provided at the group of network sensing and control, Zhejiang University, P.R.China. It is better to start at March 2007 or June 2007, the duration is 24 monthes. Generous salary according to the policy of Zhejiang University (around 50000RMB per year, http://hr.zju.edu.cn/postdoctor/news.asp?nid=187), additional research funding 10000RMB~30000RMB per year provided by the collaborative Professor. the PHD from China is Preferred. To apply, you should have a strong background and a very good understanding in one or more of the following areas: (1) wireless sensor networks (2) optimal control (3) network control (4) Wireless communications Candidates with strong publication records are strongly encouraged to apply. For further particulars, informal discussions and inquiry of the posts, please contact: Professor Youxian Sun Director of National Centre for Industrial Automation Research Dept. of Control Science and Engineering. Zhejiang University Zheda Road 38#, Hangzhou, P.R.China Email: yxsun@iipc.zju.edu.cn Web: http://www.nlict.zju.edu.cn/Chinesever/c_sunyx.htm ------=_Part_35489_19344092.1173009442484 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Contact:  yxsun@iipc.zju.edu.cn

With the success of project NSFC of China and NSFC of Zhejiang Province,
which focus on communication and coordination control of wireless sensor
actor networks, 2 postdoctoral Research Fellowships positions are provided
at the group of network sensing and control, Zhejiang University, P.R.China.

It is better to start at March 2007 or June 2007, the duration is 24
monthes.

Generous salary according to the policy of Zhejiang University (around
50000RMB per year, http://hr.zju.edu.cn/postdoctor/news.asp?nid=187),
additional research funding 10000RMB~30000RMB per year provided by the
collaborative Professor.

the PHD from China is Preferred. To apply, you should have a strong
background and a very good understanding in one or more of the following
areas:
(1) wireless sensor networks
(2) optimal control
(3) network control
(4) Wireless communications

Candidates with strong publication records are strongly encouraged to apply.
For further particulars, informal discussions and inquiry of the posts,
please contact:

Professor Youxian Sun

Director of National Centre for Industrial Automation Research
Dept. of Control Science and Engineering.
Zhejiang University
Zheda Road 38#, Hangzhou, P.R.China
Email: yxsun@iipc.zju.edu.cn
Web: http://www.nlict.zju.edu.cn/Chinesever/c_sunyx.htm ------=_Part_35489_19344092.1173009442484-- --===============0167382139== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============0167382139==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Sun Mar 04 09:59:02 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNs9R-0007ZL-TU; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 09:57:29 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNs9P-0007PP-P9 for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 09:57:27 -0500 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.226]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNs9M-0002SG-Go for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 09:57:27 -0500 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i20so1032675wra for ; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 06:57:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=G6iuqhYVILXuQcvhzqTPVX9yct0K2XJwtk2v8+HY9qCBeufjX3ELJsxcUPmRdJ39BU2pw7SRJWzhTconYcv+9iS0SigjphkON5GQfbmtxrOXk1q3b3l+KMeeJbmShBS+Z2ZpQY/AUrP5zTUah1xmRX+13FLgdgpGrCkPu8mk0AY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=YejzsOLq17+jdFPLXWeQ+Mf7PBbO9cfChVOwMxu3CL35zYqXb1usRIm4V8wBKIAcqOb3UhNuqpQHYnbpQC31PJJIfqSaFs6Jh9p4P0w9bAzcK1fnl271gOJK1fVRWNW3f8C6QDps1Y8+M+t/+vZZaVbA1hBwRD82ln/DjevppXY= Received: by 10.114.126.1 with SMTP id y1mr943352wac.1173020243463; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 06:57:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.26.19 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 06:57:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <543e07930703040657r7d3e76c8odea7b778b7656997@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 20:27:23 +0530 From: "jagadeesan m" To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2409bba43e9c8d580670fda8b695204a Subject: [manet] how to install CBRP protocol in ns-2.29 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2135289804==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============2135289804== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_108901_12137378.1173020243404" ------=_Part_108901_12137378.1173020243404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello, Iam trying to install cbrp protocol in ns-2.29, i dont know how to attach this protocol with my existing ns2. I also untar the ns-cbrp.tar file, but while validating im getting errors. So, pls can anyone help me, in installing cbrp protocol. Thanks in advance. ------=_Part_108901_12137378.1173020243404 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello,

  Iam trying to install cbrp protocol in ns-2.29, i dont know how to attach this protocol with my existing ns2.
  I also untar the ns-cbrp.tar file, but while validating im getting errors. So, pls can anyone help me, in installing cbrp protocol.
Thanks in advance.

------=_Part_108901_12137378.1173020243404-- --===============2135289804== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============2135289804==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Sun Mar 04 14:03:42 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNvyK-00033U-PW; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:02:16 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNvyI-000339-Jp for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:02:14 -0500 Received: from smtp.elet.polimi.it ([131.175.120.12]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HNvyC-0001ef-8s for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:02:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.elet.polimi.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9550E15DF8E for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 20:02:04 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at elet.polimi.it Received: from smtp.elet.polimi.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp1.elet.polimi.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HZJRM+ng3wsK for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 20:02:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptopcapone (host-84-221-106-200.cust-adsl.tiscali.it [84.221.106.200]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by smtp.elet.polimi.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F45B15DF8A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 20:02:04 +0100 (CET) From: "Antonio Capone" To: Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 20:02:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acdej4c3Uf4GXm72Q4SPIdwX1+AmDQ== Message-Id: <20070304190204.2F45B15DF8A@smtp.elet.polimi.it> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 21bf7a2f1643ae0bf20c1e010766eb78 Subject: [manet] MOBIQUITOUS 2007: Paper submission deadline approaching X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: capone@elet.polimi.it List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this message. MOBIQUITOUS 2007 Deadline approaching! Paper Registration Deadline: March 13, 2007 Paper Submission Deadline: March 20, 2007 ======================================================================== CALL FOR PAPERS MOBIQUITOUS 2007 The 4th Annual International Conference on Mobile and Ubiquitous Systems: Computing, Networking and Services http://www.mobiquitous.org August 6-10, 2007 - Philadelphia, PA In Cooperation with ACM SIGMOBILE Technical-sponsored by IEEE and IEEE Computer Society (pending) Co-sponsored by Create-Net and ICST ======================================================================== The combination of mobile and ubiquitous computing is emerging as a promising new paradigm. Through the use of mobile devices and devices embedded in the surrounding physical environments, users can be provided transparent computing and communication services at all times and in all places. The complexity of providing such services stems from the fact that the communication devices and the objects with which they interact may both be mobile. The implementation of such a paradigm requires advances in wireless network technologies and devices, development of infrastructures supporting cognitive environments, discovery and identification of ubiquitous computing applications and services, and an understanding of the cross-layer interactions between all of these components. The Fourth Annual International Conference on Mobile and Ubiquitous Systems: Computing, Networking and Services (Mobiquitous-07) will provide a forum where practitioners and researchers coming from many areas involved in ubiquitous solutions, design and deployment will be able to interact and exchange experiences needed to build successful ubiquitous systems. Areas addressed by the conference include applications, service-oriented computing, middleware, networking, agents, data management and services, all with special focus on mobility and ubiquitous computing. The conference publications will be considered for inclusion in the following places: IEEE Xplore, SCI/ISI Web of Knowledge, Inspec, EI(Elsevier)/Scopus, DBLP, Directory of Published Proceedings (InterDok), The Collection of Computer Science Bibliographies(CSB), EBSCO, British Library, American Mathematical Society (AMS), Crossref, German National Library of Science and Technology. PAPERS: Technical papers describing original, previously unpublished research, not currently under review by another conference or journal, are solicited. Technical papers clearly identifying how the specific contributions fit to an overall working solution are particularly of interest. Topics include, but are not limited to, the following feature topics as applied to mobile and ubiquitous environments: - Ubiquitous architectures, systems and applications - Wearable computing and personal area networks - Wireless technologies for mobile and ubiquitous (Bluetooth, ZigBee, 802.15.x, WiFi) - Wireless Internet access in ubiquitous systems - Ad hoc and sensor networks support for ubiquitous computing - Reconfigurability and personalization of wireless networks - Wireless/mobile service management and delivery - Security, privacy and social issues of mobile and ubiquitous systems - Service and knowledge discovery, matching and composition mechanisms - Location-based services and tracking in ubiquitous environments - Context- and location-aware applications - Agent technologies in ubiquitous, wearable, and mobile systems - Context modeling, services and frameworks - Toolkits, testbeds, development environments, and languages for ubiquitous computing - Rapid prototyping of ubiquitous applications - Ontologies for mobile and ubiquitous computing - Mobile and ubiquitous data management and processing - Data replication, migration and dissemination in ubiquitous environments - Queries, transactions and workflows in mobile and ubiquitous environments - Multimodal interfaces (speech, video kinetic, tactile) SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS: All paper submissions will be handled electronically (see the conference web page for details). Authors should prepare an Adobe Acrobat PDF version of their full paper. Papers must not exceed 8 pages double column (US Letter size, 8.5 x 11 inches) including text, figures and references. The font size must be at least 10 points. PUBLICATION: All submitted papers will be rigorously reviewed by the international technical program committee. Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings. Papers of particular merit will be proposed for publication in the ACM/Kluwer Mobile Networks and Applications (MONET) journal. IMPORTANT DATES: Paper Registration Deadline: March 13, 2007 Paper Submission Deadline: March 20, 2007 Notification of Acceptance: May 4, 2007 Camera-ready Manuscripts due: June 4, 2007 CONFERENCE ORGANIZING COMMITTEE: GENERAL CHAIR: Guohong Cao, The Pennsylvania State University TECHNICAL PROGRAM CHAIR: Robin Kravets, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign TECHNICAL PROGRAM CO-CHAIRS: Anind Dey, Carnegie Mellon University Hui Lei, IBM Research WORKSHOP CHAIR: Suman Banerjee, University of Wisconsin-Madison DEMO CHAIR: Hao Zhu, Florida International University POSTER CHAIR: Al Harris, Universita di Padova Dong Xuan, Ohio State University FINANCE CHAIR: Karen Decker, ICST PUBLICATION CHAIR: Cristina Nita-Rotaru, Purdue university PUBLICITY CHAIR: Antonio Capone, Politecnico di Milano Wensheng Zhang, Iowa State University LOCAL CHAIR: Zhen Jiang, West Chester University of Pennsylvania WEB CHAIR: Hui Song, Penn State University CONFERENCE COORDINATOR Zita Rozsa, ICST STEERING COMMITTEE Imrich Chlamtac, Create-Net (chair) Fausto Giunchiglia, University of Trento Tom La Porta, Penn State University Francesco De Pellegrini, Create-Net Chiara Petrioli, Universita di Roma "La Sapienza" Krishna Sivalingam, University of Maryland Baltimore County Michele Zorzi, Universita di Padova TECHNICAL PROGRAM COMMITTEE: See http://www.mobiquitous.org _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 05 01:02:10 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HO6F8-0004X1-Ku; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 01:00:18 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HO6F6-0004LJ-4T for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 01:00:16 -0500 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.236]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HO6F2-0004Dk-Ji for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 01:00:16 -0500 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h31so1554563wxd for ; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 22:00:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=dEhVIJGxyOJvIxCi+fbrCVY8Vyh/dyBGS18L/r49BqAcNgIcwxB7ZRVzn5PgT6Um8FUhWNSNunb6Eucyz22p74DUL9KQbEbv/5bH+K2Lq0+3UehRET18v9VkG8S3429F5enjJyf8rKGYJj0Tjzkozu04dUi2sd5JTqVabN6ywQU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=I2cUpKzMxRxRZwlwWWWEZCVRD3H9GTsUM0zWa5WmRpZ8bHzVh3AFlMKD6LqCe30WxN4UuSxOLmDV8pcvzNZDrvEK3zRMp9pYjtP7CNlKhMP5z8uzrBgKY6WHMdWrwbr2jf2x14t8zdY/CgftoYR0P8MFPS1iX9wazoPE82REKUA= Received: by 10.90.115.4 with SMTP id n4mr4189960agc.1173074411760; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 22:00:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.28.6 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 22:00:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:00:11 +0800 From: "Teck-Yoong Chai" To: manet@ietf.org, itc@comsoc.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 249cd1efd3d5e0d09114abe826a41235 Cc: Subject: [manet] Update on Chinacom 2007 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1083868163==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============1083868163== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_63868_19773260.1173074411682" ------=_Part_63868_19773260.1173074411682 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline 1. 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CHINACOM 2007 Call For Papers
August 22-2=
4, 2007, Shanghai, China - 
http://www.chinacom.org 

Co-Sponsored by Create-Net and ICST
=
Technical Sponsored by IEEE, IEEE MTT-S, IEEE CAS, IEEE CVTC, Shanghai Jiao=

Tong University, Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications.

 
IMPORTANT DATES
Submission: =09March 15th, 2007
Notification=
:=09May 31st, 2007
Camera Ready:=09June 30th, 2007
Conference:=09Augu=
st, 22-24, 2007

All ACCEPTED and PRESENTED papers will be included i=
n the CHINACOM 2007

Conference Proceedings and made available in IEEExplore Digital Library=
 and
then be indexed by Engineering Information (EI). 

Selected p=
apers from CHINACOM2007 will be considered for Computer Networks
and Ad =
Hoc Networks. Relevant papers will also be considered for a special

issue on Advanced in Wireless Mesh Networks, ACM/Springer Mobile Networ=
ks
and Applications (MONET).

CHINACOM is being positioned as the =
premier international annual conference
for the presentation of original=
 and fundamental research advances in the

field of Communications, Networks, and Internet Applications. The confe=
rence
will consist of Technical Symposia and Workshops.

PAPERS:The conference invites original technical papers that were not previously

published and are not currently under review for publication elsewhere.=

Authors are invited to submit papers to the following symposia:

=
- Frontiers on Communications and Networking
- Optical Communications an=
d Networking

- Wireless Communications and Networking
- Advances in Internet
-=
 Communication Theory and Signal Processing for Communications
- Network=
ing Security and Information Assurance


PANELS/WORKSHOPS:

Proposals for panels/workshops are solicited. Potential chairs are requeste=
d
to submit a proposal to one of the panel/workshop Chairs by March 15th=
, 2007
for review (
leizd@i2r.a-star.edu.sg; bernard.uguen@univ-rennes1.fr;haifeng.wang@nokia.com
; wasim.malik@eng.ox.ac.uk).

SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS:Conference language is English. Prospective authors are encouraged to subm=
it

a PDF version of the full paper in IEEE conference proceedings format, =
which
are limited to 5 two-column pages in a 10-points font. All paper s=
ubmissions
will be handled electronically. Please submit the paper throu=
gh the COCUS

System,h=
ttp://cocus.info. Visit the conference website
http://www.=
chinacom.org/submission.shtml
 for detailed submission
requirements and procedures.


STU=
DENT TRAVEL GRANTS:
Applications are invited from qualified graduate stu=
dents. Up to 10 awards
are expected.


GENERAL CO-CHAIRS

Wenjun Zhang, Vice President, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Sherman Shen=
, University of Waterloo

GENERAL Vice CO-CHAIRS
Jianping Chen, Sh=
anghai Jiao Tong University
Honggang Zhang, Create-Net

TPC CO-CHA=
IRS

Andreas F. Molisch, MERL/Lund University
Xiaodong Wang, Columbia Uni=
versity
Matti Latva-aho,University of Oulu

SYMPOSIUM CO-CHAIRS
Zhihua Guo, Lenovo
Stefan Mangold, Swisscom Innovations
Jun Zhen=
g, University of Ottawa


Indra Widjaja, Bell Labs, Alcatel-Lucent
Yikai Su, Shanghai Jiao=
 Tong University
Pin-Han Ho, University of Waterloo

Petri Mahonen=
, RWTH Aachen University
Chonggang Wang, University of Arkansas
Wenye=
 Wang, North Carolina State University


Minglu Li, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Junzhong Gu, East China=
 Normal University
Jie Wu, Florida Atlantic University

Thomas Kai=
ser, Leibniz University of Hannover
Zongxin Wang, Fudan University

Mischa Dohler, France Telecom

Zhenfu Cao, Shanghai Jiao Tong Univers=
ity
Peter Stavroulakis, Technical University of Crete
Radha Poovendra=
n, University of Washington


STEERING COMMITTEE
Imrich Chlamta=
c, Create-Net

Yabin Ye, Create-Net
Zheng Zhou, BUPT
Bo Li, HKUST

WORKSHO=
PS CO-CHAIRS
Haifeng Wang, Nokia
Wasim Q. Malik, Oxford University
PANELS CO-CHAIRS
Zhongding Lei, I2R
Bernard Uguen, Universit=E9 =
de Rennes 1


PUBLICITY CO-CHAIRS
Marina Petrova, RWTH Aachen University
Te=
ck Yoong Chai, I2R

PUBLICATION CHAIR
Chunsheng Xin, Norfolk State=
 University
Bin Wang, Wright State University

LOCAL ARRANGEMENT C=
O-CHAIRS

Xiaokang Yang, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Shenghong Li, Shanghai =
Jiao Tong University
Xinbing Wang, Shanghai Jiao Tong University

=
INTERN. ARRANGEMENT CHAIR
Zsuzsi Kaszab, ICST

INTERNATIONAL ADVIS=
ORY

COMMITTEE
Ian Akyildiz, Georgia Institute of Technology
Yeheskel =
(Zeke) Bar-Ness, NJIT
Bob Brodersen, UC Berkeley
Junliang Chen, BUPT<=
br>Roberto Coisson, Italian Embassy in China
Jon Crowcroft, University o=
f Cambridge

Leonard Kleinrock, UCLA
Hisashi Kobayashi, Princeton University
B=
yeong Gi Lee, Seoul National University
Jintong Lin, BUPT
Guangnan Ni=
, Inst. of Computing Technology
Hequan Wu, Chinese Academy of Engineerin=
g

Ya-Qin Zhang, Microsoft

------=_Part_63868_19773260.1173074411682-- --===============1083868163== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============1083868163==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 05 03:50:07 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HO8sN-0007TC-LN; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 03:48:59 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HO8sM-0007T1-4F; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 03:48:58 -0500 Received: from mail119.messagelabs.com ([216.82.241.179]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HO8sK-0006QY-Sl; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 03:48:58 -0500 X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-119.messagelabs.com!1173084536!9454556!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7.1; banners=.,-,- X-Originating-IP: [129.188.136.8] Received: (qmail 14018 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2007 08:48:56 -0000 Received: from motgate8.mot.com (HELO motgate8.mot.com) (129.188.136.8) by server-7.tower-119.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 5 Mar 2007 08:48:56 -0000 Received: from il06exr03.mot.com (il06exr03.mot.com [129.188.137.133]) by motgate8.mot.com (8.12.11/Motorola) with ESMTP id l258mQfC014857; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 01:48:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.161.201.117] (zfr01-2117.crm.mot.com [10.161.201.117]) by il06exr03.mot.com (8.13.1/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l258mB8d017192; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 02:48:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <45EBD93F.30103@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 09:47:59 +0100 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Teco Boot References: <005501c75ced$f1977cf0$0202a8c0@Teco> In-Reply-To: <005501c75ced$f1977cf0$0202a8c0@Teco> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 769a46790fb42fbb0b0cc700c82f7081 Cc: nemo@ietf.org, manet@ietf.org, manemo@mobileip.jp, 'Monami6 WG' Subject: [manet] Re: WPF syndrome and MONAMI6 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Teco Boot wrote: > Alexandry wrote: >> Based on this comparison, do you think that WPF syndrome is related >> to the (H1, Cn) MONAMI6 Scenario? Or to another MONAMI6 Scenario? >> Or not at all to MONAMI6? > > [Teco] In MIP / NEMO, the egress interface is used to reach HA/CN. > > In MANET & MANEMO, there is the concept of the MANET interface. Both > have the WPF problem. If I understand you correctly both MIP/NEMO and MANET&MANEMO have the WPF issue, I agree. Could we relay the WPF problem to MONAMI6 group to be included in the multhoming issues document? I support that. > Problem can occur also when multiple router interfaces are used, but > metrics on interface by interface basis can be used. > > MONAMI6 could have the WPF problem, but there could also be the > assumption that there is only one wireless hop to the backbone and > the backbone has large BW related to the wireless hop. Using local L2 > metrics can be sufficient in this case. > > Selecting the best neighbor / next hop by MIP / NEMO where multiple > wireless hops are used, the WPF problem can occur as I described. I agree it can appear. > MANEMO tree discovery RA-TIO mechanisms could be used for selecting > the best (or worst) neighbor by all nodes, thus including hosts. Just > picking one ignoring any metric is gambling. Doesn't OSPF provide metrics in its LSAs (Link State Advertisements) that can help a router select the best metric at it sees fit? I think it does. What's the difference between MANEMO TD RA-TIO and OSPF LSAs? I think in MANEMO we care about routers not about hosts? This should be threaded separately. Alex ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 05 05:19:33 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOAH9-0007wd-Jp; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 05:18:39 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOAH7-0007tf-9U; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 05:18:38 -0500 Received: from mail153.messagelabs.com ([216.82.253.51]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOAH3-0004D1-RL; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 05:18:37 -0500 X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-153.messagelabs.com!1173089912!1222556!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7.1; banners=.,-,- X-Originating-IP: [129.188.136.8] Received: (qmail 390 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2007 10:18:32 -0000 Received: from motgate8.mot.com (HELO motgate8.mot.com) (129.188.136.8) by server-9.tower-153.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 5 Mar 2007 10:18:32 -0000 Received: from il06exr03.mot.com (il06exr03.mot.com [129.188.137.133]) by motgate8.mot.com (8.12.11/Motorola) with ESMTP id l25AIN0R007842; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 03:18:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.161.201.117] (zfr01-2117.crm.mot.com [10.161.201.117]) by il06exr03.mot.com (8.13.1/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l25AILX9023636; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 04:18:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <45EBEE68.40402@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:18:16 +0100 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Teco Boot References: <005501c75ced$f1977cf0$0202a8c0@Teco> In-Reply-To: <005501c75ced$f1977cf0$0202a8c0@Teco> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8abaac9e10c826e8252866cbe6766464 Cc: nemo@ietf.org, manet@ietf.org, manemo@mobileip.jp, 'Monami6 WG' Subject: [manet] Re: Choose one nexthop before choosing best nexthop X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Teco Boot wrote: > > Selecting the best neighbor / next hop by MIP / NEMO where multiple > wireless hops are used, the WPF problem can occur as I described. > MANEMO tree discovery RA-TIO mechanisms could be used for selecting > the best (or worst) neighbor by all nodes, thus including hosts. Just > picking one ignoring any metric is gambling. I think before having the luxury to choose among better next hops we must have the modest feature to choose at least one next hop, ie simply to route for best effort. TD RA-TIOs (Tree Discovery Router Advertisements - Tree Information Options) don't advertise prefixes. So whereas RA-TIOs may prove good at selecting among candidates in a tree they don't offer a means to simply choose the nexthop. Neither the NINA nor the TD drafts have prefixes in RA-TIOs. What do you think. Alex > > > ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 05 09:23:46 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOE4M-0001yQ-RJ; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 09:21:42 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOE4L-0001yA-Bh for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 09:21:41 -0500 Received: from lnx130.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.174.24]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOE4J-0002yq-JD for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 09:21:41 -0500 Received: from deeds05.deeds.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (deeds05.deeds.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.162.134]) by lnx130.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.13.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l25EKg96015915; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:20:42 +0100 Received: from DEEDS03 (deeds03.deeds.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.162.133]) by deeds05.deeds.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l25EKQjK013939; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:20:27 +0100 From: "Abdelmajid Khelil" To: , , Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:20:44 +0100 Message-ID: <009e01c75f31$7f375f40$85a25382@deeds.informatik.tudarmstadt.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcdfMXX0OiUBWoMGQbKZIRBcYcskog== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-TUD-HRZ-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TUD-HRZ-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MailScanner-From: khelil@informatik.tu-darmstadt.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 249cd1efd3d5e0d09114abe826a41235 Cc: wgshi@cs.ualberta.ca, "'Obaidat, Mohammad'" , essia@cs.ucr.edu, zhuhua@hotmail.com, guopingtx@yahoo.com, pescape@unina.it Subject: [manet] CFP - SPECTS'07 - submission deadline is extended to March 19, 2007 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org "We apologize if you have received multiple copies of this CFP", = SPECTS07 Publicity Committee *************************************************************************= *** Call for Papers 2007 International Symposium on Performance Evaluation of Computer and Telecommunication Systems SPECTS 2007 10Th Anniversary of SPECTS http://eia.udg.es/SPECTS2007/ July 16-18, 2007 San Diego, California, USA This annual international conference is a forum for professionals = involved in performance evaluation of computer and telecommunication systems. Performance evaluation of computer systems and networks has progressed rapidly in the past decade and has begun to approach maturity. = Significant progress has been made in analytic modeling, simulation, and measurement approaches for performance evaluation of computer and telecommunication systems. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to: Networking and Telecommunication Systems =20 =A0Internet Technology Quality of Service (QoS) DiffServ/IntServ MPLS/GMPLS TCP World Wide Web (WWW) Technology =A0=A0Networking Techniques Unicast and Multicast Routing Congestion Admission and Control Switching Techniques Tele-traffic Network Protocols Network Management and Control Network Capacity Planning Network Architecture Evaluation Service and QoS Pricing Security and Authentication =A0=A0Broadband Networks High-Speed Networking Optical Networks =A0=A0Wireless Systems and Networks Satellite Systems UMTS Mobile Networks/Computing Ad-hoc Networks Sensor Networks =A0=A0Multimedia Communications and Applications =20 Computer Systems =A0=A0Distributed Architectures Client/Server Distributed Systems and Agents Parallel and Distributed Computing Massively Parallel Systems Cluster Computing Grid Computing Interconnection Networks =A0=A0Computer Architectures Microprocessors/Microcomputers Memory Systems High Performance I/O Real-time Systems Scheduling Schemes =A0=A0Software Software Performance, Evaluation, and Testing Parallel Algorithms and Languages =A0=A0Electronic Commerce =A0=A0Hardware and Software Monitors =A0=A0High-Performance Computing =A0=A0Information Assurance =A0=A0Reconfigurable Computing =A0=A0Scientific Computing Algorithms =A0=A0Workload and Traffic Characterization=20 Tools, Methodologies, and Applications =20 =A0=A0Parallel and Distributed Simulation =A0=A0Verification and Validation =A0=A0Neural Networks and Fuzzy Logic Applications =A0=A0Performance Optimization, Bounds, and Models =A0=A0Queuing Systems and Networks =A0=A0Scalability Studies =A0=A0Integrated Modeling and Measurement =A0=A0On-Line Performance Adaptation and Tuning =A0=A0Process Algebra-Based Models =A0=A0Mathematical Aspects and Integrated Design of Performance =A0=A0Case Studies=20 =20 General Chair Mohammad S. Obaidat Dept. of Computer Science, Monmouth University W. Long Branch, NJ 07764, = USA Tel +1-732-571-4482 Fax +1-732-263-5202 E-mail: obaidat@monmouth.edu Program Chairs =20 Jose L. Marzo University of Girona, Spain E-mail: joseluis.marzo@udg.es Ljiljana Trajkovic Simon Fraser University, Vancouver, Canada E-mail: ljilja@cs.sfu.ca Helena Szczerbicka University of Hannover, Germany E-mail: hsz@sim.uni-hannover.de Tutorials and Special Sessions Chair S. Dharmaraja Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi, India dharmar@maths.iitd.ernet.in Awards Chair Franco Davoli University of Genoa, Italy E-mail: franco@dist.unige.it Publication Chair Pawel Gburzynski University of Alberta, Canada E-mail: pawel@cs.ualberta.ca Publicity Committee Guoping Zeng, Nortel Networks, USA E-mail: zenggu@nortelnetworks.com=20 Weiguang Shi, University of Alberta, Canada E-mail: wgshi@cs.ualberta.ca Hua Zhu, San Diego Research Center, CA, USA E-mail: hua.zhu@sdrcinc.net Essia H. Elhafsi, University of California-Riverside, USA E-mail: essia@cs.ucr.edu Abdelmajid Khelil, Technical University of Darmstadt, Germany E-mail: khelil@informatik.tu-darmstadt.de Antonio Pescap=E8, University of Napoli "Federico II", Italy E-mail: pescape@unina.it Local Arrangement Chair Richard McDonald RMC, USA rmacd@ramlabs.com Web Masters Antonio Bueno University of Girona, Spain E-mail: jbueno@silver.udg.es Michel J. Chinni U. S. Army TACOM-ARDEC E-mail: mchinni@pica.army.mil Technical Program Committee Abdullah Abonamah, Zayed University, UAE Tricha Anjali, Illinois = Institute of Technology, USA Carlos Belo, Instituto de Telecomunica=E7=F5es-IST, = Portugal Noureddine Boudriga, University of Tunis, Tunisia Maria C. Calzarossa, University of Pavia, Italy Fernando Cerdan, Technical University of Cartagena, Spain Tomaso de Cola, University of Genoa, Italy S. = Dharmaraja, Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi, India Floriano De Rango, D.E.I.S. Dept., University of Calabria, Italy Rachid El Abdouni Khayari, = University of the Armed Forces Munich, Germany Geoffrey Fox, Indiana University, = USA John Fox, Foxband Consultancy, UK Laurent Franck, Telecom Paris, France Sebastia Galmes, Universitat de les Illes Balears, Spain Daniel Garcia, University of Oviedo, Spain Erol Gelenbe, Imperial College, UK Pawel Gburzynski, University of Alberta, Canada Sami Habib, Kuwait University, Kuwait Jarmo Harju, Tampere University of Technology, Finland Xavier Hesselbach-Serra, Universitat Polit=E8cnica de Catalunya, Spain Xiaoyan = Hong, University of California, Los Angeles, USA Carlos Juiz, Universitat de = les Illes Balears, Spain Krishna Kant, Intel, USA Helen Karatza, Aristotle University of Thessalonici, Greece Ulrich Killat, Tech. Univ. of = Hamburg, Germany Michalis E. Kounavis, Intel Research, USA Kevin Kwiat, Air Force Research Laboratory, USA Veronica Lagrange M. Reis, HP Corp., USA S. = Kami Makki, University of Toledo, USA Krzysztof Malinowski, Warsaw Technical University, Poland Marek Malowidzki, Military Communication Institute, Poland Petteri Mannersalo, University of Vaasa, Finland Mario Marchese, University of Genoa, Italy Pascale Minet, INRIA, France Jelena Misic, University of Manitoba, Canada Vojislav Misic, University of Manitoba, Canada Snezana Mitrovic-Minic, Simon Fraser University, Canada Hussein Mouftah, University of Ottawa, Canada Ibrahim Onyuksel, Northern Illinois University, USA Mohamed Ould-Khaoua, University of Glasgow, UK Elena Pagani, Universit=E0 di Milano, Italy = Georgios I. Papadimitriou, Aristotle University, Greece Achille Pattavina, Politecnico di Milano, Italy Krzysztof Pawlikowski, University of Canterbury, New Zealand Gregory D. Peterson, University of Tennessee, = USA Stephen Pink, Lancaster University, UK Michal Pioro, Warsaw University = of Technology, Poland Desa Polajnar, University of Northern British = Columbia, Canada Jernej Polajnar, University of Northern British Columbia, Canada Ramon Puigjaner, Universitat de les Illes Balears, Spain Vicente = Santonja, Technical University of Valencia, Spain Barbara Sorensen, Air Force = Research Laboratory, USA Tatsuya Suda, University of California, Irvine, USA = Phuoc Tran-Gia, University of Wuerzburg, Germany Pere Vila, University of = Girona, Spain Manuel Villen-Altamirano, Telefonica, Spain Bernd E. Wolfinger, Hamburg University, Germany Guoping Zeng, Nortel Networks, USA Michele Zorzi, Universit? di Ferrara, Italy Paper Submission Please submit your complete papers electronically to: http://www.softconf.com/scs/SPECTS07/ Instructions for authors will be posted on the paper submission web = site. Submissions should not exceed 8-10 double-spaced, 8.5x11 inch pages (including figures, tables, and references) in 10 point fonts. Please include 5-10 keywords, complete postal and e-mail address, and fax and = phone numbers of the corresponding author. If you have difficulties with electronic submission, please contact Technical Program Co-Chairs or the Local Arrangement Chair. Extended versions of selected accepted papers at SPECTS 2007 will be considered for possible publication in scholarly journals. Proposals for 1.5 hour tutorials should be sent to Tutorials and Special Sessions Chair. Tutorial abstracts along with keynote speeches=A0 = abstracts will be included in the proceedings of the conference. Proposals for = special sessions should also be submitted to the Tutorials and Special Sessions Chair.=20 Deadlines Submission of papers: March 19, 2007 Notification of acceptance: April 30, 2007=20 Submission of camera-ready papers: June 4, 2007 =20 Sponsored by The Society for Modeling and Simulation International Technically Co-Sponsored by the IEEE Systems, Man, and Cybernetics (SMC) Society. ------------------------------------------------------------- Abdelmajid Khelil khelil@informatik.tu-darmstadt.de DEEDS Group Department of Computer Science Hochschulstr. 10 S2:02 E219 D-64289 Darmstadt, GERMANY Tel. +49-6151-16-3414 Fax. +49-6151-16-4310 http://www.deeds.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/khelil/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 05 11:25:29 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOFzB-0003D0-9n; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:24:29 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOFz9-0003Ct-0w for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:24:27 -0500 Received: from slb-smtpout-01.boeing.com ([130.76.64.48] helo=slb-smtpout-01.ns.cs.boeing.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOFz4-00065b-7i for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:24:27 -0500 Received: from stl-av-01.boeing.com (stl-av-01.boeing.com [192.76.190.6]) by slb-smtpout-01.ns.cs.boeing.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/TEST_SMTPIN) with ESMTP id l25GOIpH017531 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 08:24:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from stl-av-01.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stl-av-01.boeing.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/DOWNSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id l25GOI71009880 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:24:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from xch-swbh-11.sw.nos.boeing.com (xch-swbh-11.sw.nos.boeing.com [129.172.192.157]) by stl-av-01.boeing.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/UPSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id l25GNwep009178 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:24:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from XCH-SW-3V2.sw.nos.boeing.com ([129.172.192.160]) by xch-swbh-11.sw.nos.boeing.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 Mar 2007 08:24:13 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [manet] Update on Chinacom 2007 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 08:24:13 -0800 Message-ID: <6041DFE0D1848F4EA5B9B2368E2C4F3B0406B583@XCH-SW-3V2.sw.nos.boeing.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [manet] Update on Chinacom 2007 Thread-Index: Acde7BcXQGCMEVCRSHahzbQ1yhILwgAVlBYg References: From: "Nguyen, Dzung" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2007 16:24:13.0958 (UTC) FILETIME=[B69D2260:01C75F42] X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Scan-Signature: e06437eb72f6703f11713d345be8298a X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1154209117==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1154209117== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C75F42.B61A06D8" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C75F42.B61A06D8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Recently I saw lots of emails traffics consulting about technology like = manet, expecially from China, are we deeply aware about technology = transfer? Just opinion. =20 Regards, =20 ________________________________ From: Teck-Yoong Chai [mailto:tychai@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 10:00 PM To: manet@ietf.org; itc@comsoc.org Subject: [manet] Update on Chinacom 2007 1. Conference proceeding to be indexed by EI 2. Relevant papers to be considered for journal publication 3. Student travel grants available =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D My apology if you receive multiple copies of this message.=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 CHINACOM 2007 Call For Papers August 22-24, 2007, Shanghai, China -=20 http://www.chinacom.org =20 Co-Sponsored by Create-Net and ICST Technical Sponsored by IEEE, IEEE MTT-S, IEEE CAS, IEEE CVTC, Shanghai = Jiao Tong University, Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications. =20 IMPORTANT DATES Submission: March 15th, 2007 Notification: May 31st, 2007 Camera Ready: June 30th, 2007 Conference: August, 22-24, 2007 All ACCEPTED and PRESENTED papers will be included in the CHINACOM 2007 Conference Proceedings and made available in IEEExplore Digital Library = and then be indexed by Engineering Information (EI).=20 Selected papers from CHINACOM2007 will be considered for Computer = Networks and Ad Hoc Networks. Relevant papers will also be considered for a = special issue on Advanced in Wireless Mesh Networks, ACM/Springer Mobile = Networks and Applications (MONET). CHINACOM is being positioned as the premier international annual = conference for the presentation of original and fundamental research advances in = the field of Communications, Networks, and Internet Applications. The = conference will consist of Technical Symposia and Workshops. PAPERS: The conference invites original technical papers that were not = previously published and are not currently under review for publication elsewhere. Authors are invited to submit papers to the following symposia: - Frontiers on Communications and Networking - Optical Communications and Networking - Wireless Communications and Networking - Advances in Internet - Communication Theory and Signal Processing for Communications - Networking Security and Information Assurance PANELS/WORKSHOPS: Proposals for panels/workshops are solicited. Potential chairs are = requested to submit a proposal to one of the panel/workshop Chairs by March 15th, = 2007 for review ( leizd@i2r.a-star.edu.sg ; = bernard.uguen@univ-rennes1.fr; haifeng.wang@nokia.com ; wasim.malik@eng.ox.ac.uk). SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS: Conference language is English. Prospective authors are encouraged to = submit a PDF version of the full paper in IEEE conference proceedings format, = which are limited to 5 two-column pages in a 10-points font. All paper = submissions will be handled electronically. Please submit the paper through the = COCUS System,http://cocus.info . Visit the conference = website http://www.chinacom.org/submission.shtml for detailed submission requirements and procedures. STUDENT TRAVEL GRANTS: Applications are invited from qualified graduate students. Up to 10 = awards are expected. GENERAL CO-CHAIRS Wenjun Zhang, Vice President, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Sherman Shen, University of Waterloo GENERAL Vice CO-CHAIRS Jianping Chen, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Honggang Zhang, Create-Net TPC CO-CHAIRS Andreas F. Molisch, MERL/Lund University Xiaodong Wang, Columbia University Matti Latva-aho,University of Oulu SYMPOSIUM CO-CHAIRS Zhihua Guo, Lenovo Stefan Mangold, Swisscom Innovations Jun Zheng, University of Ottawa Indra Widjaja, Bell Labs, Alcatel-Lucent Yikai Su, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Pin-Han Ho, University of Waterloo Petri Mahonen, RWTH Aachen University Chonggang Wang, University of Arkansas Wenye Wang, North Carolina State University Minglu Li, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Junzhong Gu, East China Normal University Jie Wu, Florida Atlantic University Thomas Kaiser, Leibniz University of Hannover Zongxin Wang, Fudan University Mischa Dohler, France Telecom Zhenfu Cao, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Peter Stavroulakis, Technical University of Crete Radha Poovendran, University of Washington STEERING COMMITTEE Imrich Chlamtac, Create-Net Yabin Ye, Create-Net Zheng Zhou, BUPT Bo Li, HKUST WORKSHOPS CO-CHAIRS Haifeng Wang, Nokia Wasim Q. Malik, Oxford University PANELS CO-CHAIRS Zhongding Lei, I2R Bernard Uguen, Universit=E9 de Rennes 1 PUBLICITY CO-CHAIRS Marina Petrova, RWTH Aachen University Teck Yoong Chai, I2R PUBLICATION CHAIR Chunsheng Xin, Norfolk State University Bin Wang, Wright State University LOCAL ARRANGEMENT CO-CHAIRS Xiaokang Yang, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Shenghong Li, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Xinbing Wang, Shanghai Jiao Tong University INTERN. ARRANGEMENT CHAIR Zsuzsi Kaszab, ICST INTERNATIONAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE Ian Akyildiz, Georgia Institute of Technology Yeheskel (Zeke) Bar-Ness, NJIT Bob Brodersen, UC Berkeley Junliang Chen, BUPT Roberto Coisson, Italian Embassy in China Jon Crowcroft, University of Cambridge Leonard Kleinrock, UCLA Hisashi Kobayashi, Princeton University Byeong Gi Lee, Seoul National University Jintong Lin, BUPT Guangnan Ni, Inst. of Computing Technology Hequan Wu, Chinese Academy of Engineering Ya-Qin Zhang, Microsoft ------_=_NextPart_001_01C75F42.B61A06D8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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From: Teck-Yoong Chai = [mailto:tychai@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 10:00 PM
To: = manet@ietf.org;=20 itc@comsoc.org
Subject: [manet] Update on Chinacom=20 2007

1. Conference proceeding to be indexed by EI
2. Relevant = papers to=20 be considered for journal publication
3. Student travel grants=20 available

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CHINACOM 2007 =
Call For Papers
August 22-24, 2007, Shanghai, China - 
http://www.chinacom.org 

Co-Sponsored by Create-Net and =
ICST
Technical Sponsored by IEEE, IEEE MTT-S, IEEE CAS, IEEE CVTC, =
Shanghai Jiao
Tong University, Beijing University of Posts and =
Telecommunications.

 
IMPORTANT DATES
Submission: 	March 15th, =
2007
Notification:	May 31st, 2007
Camera Ready:	June 30th, =
2007
Conference:	August, 22-24, 2007

All ACCEPTED and =
PRESENTED papers will be included in the CHINACOM 2007

Conference Proceedings and made available in IEEExplore Digital =
Library and
then be indexed by Engineering Information (EI). =


Selected papers from CHINACOM2007 will be considered for =
Computer Networks
and Ad Hoc Networks. Relevant papers will also be =
considered for a special

issue on Advanced in Wireless Mesh Networks, ACM/Springer Mobile =
Networks
and Applications (MONET).

CHINACOM is being =
positioned as the premier international annual conference
for the =
presentation of original and fundamental research advances in the

field of Communications, Networks, and Internet Applications. The =
conference
will consist of Technical Symposia and =
Workshops.

PAPERS:
The conference invites original technical =
papers that were not previously

published and are not currently under review for publication =
elsewhere.
Authors are invited to submit papers to the following =
symposia:

- Frontiers on Communications and Networking
- =
Optical Communications and Networking

- Wireless Communications and Networking
- Advances in =
Internet
- Communication Theory and Signal Processing for =
Communications
- Networking Security and Information =
Assurance


PANELS/WORKSHOPS:

Proposals for panels/workshops are solicited. Potential chairs are =
requested
to submit a proposal to one of the panel/workshop Chairs by =
March 15th, 2007
for review (
leizd@i2r.a-star.edu.sg; bernard.uguen@univ-rennes1.=
fr;
haifeng.wang@nokia.com
; wasim.malik@eng.ox.ac.uk).
SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS:
Conference language is English. =
Prospective authors are encouraged to submit

a PDF version of the full paper in IEEE conference proceedings =
format, which
are limited to 5 two-column pages in a 10-points font. =
All paper submissions
will be handled electronically. Please submit =
the paper through the COCUS

System,http://cocus.info. Visit the conference =
website
http://www.chinacom.org=
/submission.shtml
 for detailed submission
requirements and =
procedures.


STUDENT TRAVEL GRANTS:
Applications are =
invited from qualified graduate students. Up to 10 awards
are =
expected.


GENERAL CO-CHAIRS

Wenjun Zhang, Vice President, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Sherman =
Shen, University of Waterloo

GENERAL Vice CO-CHAIRS
Jianping =
Chen, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Honggang Zhang, =
Create-Net

TPC CO-CHAIRS

Andreas F. Molisch, MERL/Lund University
Xiaodong Wang, Columbia =
University
Matti Latva-aho,University of Oulu

SYMPOSIUM =
CO-CHAIRS

Zhihua Guo, Lenovo
Stefan Mangold, Swisscom =
Innovations
Jun Zheng, University of Ottawa


Indra Widjaja, Bell Labs, Alcatel-Lucent
Yikai Su, Shanghai =
Jiao Tong University
Pin-Han Ho, University of Waterloo

Petri =
Mahonen, RWTH Aachen University
Chonggang Wang, University of =
Arkansas
Wenye Wang, North Carolina State University


Minglu Li, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Junzhong Gu, East =
China Normal University
Jie Wu, Florida Atlantic =
University

Thomas Kaiser, Leibniz University of =
Hannover
Zongxin Wang, Fudan University

Mischa Dohler, France Telecom

Zhenfu Cao, Shanghai Jiao Tong =
University
Peter Stavroulakis, Technical University of Crete
Radha =
Poovendran, University of Washington


STEERING =
COMMITTEE
Imrich Chlamtac, Create-Net

Yabin Ye, Create-Net
Zheng Zhou, BUPT
Bo Li, =
HKUST

WORKSHOPS CO-CHAIRS
Haifeng Wang, Nokia
Wasim Q. =
Malik, Oxford University

PANELS CO-CHAIRS
Zhongding Lei, =
I2R
Bernard Uguen, Universit=E9 de Rennes 1


PUBLICITY CO-CHAIRS
Marina Petrova, RWTH Aachen =
University
Teck Yoong Chai, I2R

PUBLICATION CHAIR
Chunsheng =
Xin, Norfolk State University
Bin Wang, Wright State =
University

LOCAL ARRANGEMENT CO-CHAIRS

Xiaokang Yang, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Shenghong Li, =
Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Xinbing Wang, Shanghai Jiao Tong =
University

INTERN. ARRANGEMENT CHAIR
Zsuzsi Kaszab, =
ICST

INTERNATIONAL ADVISORY

COMMITTEE
Ian Akyildiz, Georgia Institute of =
Technology
Yeheskel (Zeke) Bar-Ness, NJIT
Bob Brodersen, UC =
Berkeley
Junliang Chen, BUPT
Roberto Coisson, Italian Embassy in =
China
Jon Crowcroft, University of Cambridge

Leonard Kleinrock, UCLA
Hisashi Kobayashi, Princeton =
University
Byeong Gi Lee, Seoul National University
Jintong Lin, =
BUPT
Guangnan Ni, Inst. of Computing Technology
Hequan Wu, Chinese =
Academy of Engineering

Ya-Qin Zhang, Microsoft

------_=_NextPart_001_01C75F42.B61A06D8-- --===============1154209117== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============1154209117==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 05 12:15:52 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOGmW-0001u4-GN; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 12:15:28 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOGmU-0001jJ-9L for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 12:15:26 -0500 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.188]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOGmS-0006Eb-Gv for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 12:15:26 -0500 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2301013nfa for ; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 09:15:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bmbxzsF3XV/S4oXlL9ZEGy7xV9c+m8+x3g1V+94CblAwJzBAf6yd5EoiJslunW0K9okCEToOgW2Bn9nnrLW4SDDo9WKiejU4YCCH+d+TaYHGJw+A00q/6s9z7LoKQsaufchLs9Snobm5ehSma52Ay7Zar/DrkCx+yF8AWIMicYU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=o/5CLiGOJZphR3rwMmzxYJXrZ0cvOQSofMSBAFn0CvkiZspHvKkqeSAmuND2bLAkb5uJpqRmrcW7LK7vgxtXI+mgfLgO2EZFiyalO097Dnow3a5Y2/iZXiMEgLcr7FG1m1DMEB2KdLj9xC+nL1DksgyM6b7SfDklfd1SssaM7IM= Received: by 10.78.149.13 with SMTP id w13mr658496hud.1173114923042; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 09:15:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.45.10 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:15:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <374005f30703050915x52d82da0jea4662dc2515ced3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:15:23 -0800 From: "Ian Chakeres" To: manet In-Reply-To: <374005f30703021953h501fa158r6276744dcdefc908@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <374005f30703021953h501fa158r6276744dcdefc908@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b19722fc8d3865b147c75ae2495625f2 Cc: Subject: [manet] Re: IETF 68 MANET Preliminary Agenda X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org In addition to soliciting possible agenda topics, I'd like to ask everyone to please review the many MANET WG related IDs. Here is a quick list from the agenda: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-manet-iana-00.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-manet-packetbb-04.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-02.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-03.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-manet-smf-04.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-manet-dymo-08.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-clausen-manet-jitter-01.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-clausen-manet-timetlv-00.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-autoconf-manetarch-01.txt Please send authors or the list, comments & questions. Ian On 3/2/07, Ian Chakeres wrote: > The MANET meeting in Prague will be held Wednesday afternoon - > https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/meeting_agenda_html.cgi?meeting_num=68 > > I've posted a preliminary agenda - > http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07mar/agenda/manet.txt > > If you would like to have a presentation slot during the meeting in > Prague, please email Joe & I. > > See everyone soon, > Ian Chakeres > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 05 13:20:01 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOHm2-0003pt-4s; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:19:02 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOHm0-0003pT-Pe for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:19:00 -0500 Received: from ece.uprm.edu ([136.145.57.24]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOHlw-0003Se-64 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:19:00 -0500 Received: from kejielupc (perazzamac2.ece.uprm.edu [136.145.57.158]) by ece.uprm.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id A924C558C7 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:18:47 -0400 (AST) Organization: UPR-Mayaguez Message-ID: From: "Kejie Lu" To: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:18:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3fbd9b434023f8abfcb1532abaec7a21 Subject: [manet] CALL FOR PAPERS MILCOM 2007 (Abstracts Due on Mar. 09) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lukejie@ece.uprm.edu List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org ** Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this message ** ** The deadline for submitting the abstracts has been extended to 09 March = 2007 ** ** The link for submitting the unclassified papers is: = https://wams.jspargo.com/milcom07/login.asp ** =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D CALL for PAPERS MILCOM 2007 October 29=9631, 2007 Gaylord Palms Convention Center Orlando, Florida USA Conference Theme:=20 Interoperability: Policy to Performance MILCOM 2007 is soliciting both unclassified and classified papers (up to = DoD Secret) relevant to communications and information processing system = technologies and capabilities that address the 21st century challenges of = National Defense, Homeland Security, Disaster Response and = Interoperability. Industry, academic, and government organizations from = both the U.S. and countries around the globe are invited and encouraged to = participate=2E Important Dates: Abstracts Due: 09 March 2007 Draft Papers Due: 20 April 2007 Author Notification: 25 May 2007 Final Camera Ready Papers Due: 6 July 2007 Suggested technical areas of general interest include but are not limited to: =95 Interoperability =96 Policies and Standards =96 DoD and Federal Agencies =96 State and Local Governments =96 Emergency Grid Communications =96 Coalition Partners =96 Disaster Response =95 Service Oriented Architectures =95 Advanced Communications Technologies =95 Network Management =95 Mobile and Wireless Technologies =95 Radio Systems and Technologies =95 Network Centric Systems and Technologies =95 Applications and Operational Concepts =95 Systems, Programs and Initiatives =95 Information Management and Dissemination =95 Digital Signal Processing =95 Coding =95 Modulation =95 Advanced Waveforms =95 Next Generation Networks and Systems =95 Internet Protocols =95 Link Layer and Cross-Layer Protocols =95 Network Architectures and Routing =95 Transport Protocols and Performance =95 Quality of Service Architectures =95 Design Modeling and Simulation =95 Digital Video Broadcasting and Standards =95 IF/RF Technologies and Techniques =95 Advanced SATCOM systems =95 Airborne Technologies =95 Standards Based Datalinks =95 Mobile Satellite Systems =95 Space Networks and Protocols =95 Wireless Communications =95 Mobile Ad Hoc Networks =95 Computer and Network Security Systems =95 Software Defined Radios and Cognitive Radios =95 Sensor Networks =95 Advanced Antenna Technologies =95 Laser Communications and Optical Networks =95 Tests and Measurements =95 Ultra Wideband =95 Multimedia Communications and Management Technical Program Committee Technical Program Chair Dr. Vitas Mikenas Harris Corporation 321-729-7748 mikenas.milcom2007@harris.com Unclassified Program Chair Dr. Sastri Kota Harris Corporation 408-990-8301 kota.milcom2007@harris.com Classified Program Chair Terry Casto Harris Corporation 321-984-5600 casto.milcom2007@harris.com Panels Program Chair Leo deCardenas Harris Corporation 321-727-6202 decardenas.milcom2007@harris.com Tutorial Program Chair Rich Folio Harris Corporation 321-729-3629 folio.milcom2007@harris.com Unclassified Technical Program Submission Process:=20 The Web-based Abstract Management System (WAMS) (www.milcom.org) is used = to submit abstracts, full papers, and final camera ready papers. During = the abstract submission process, author and password information will need = to be entered and a Paper ID# will be assigned. This Paper ID# and = password will be used to upload papers. The abstract must NOT contain any = ITAR-related, classified, or proprietary information=2E Abstracts will only be used to help define the sessions. The Unclassified = Author=92s Kit provides instructions to authors for preparation of the = full and final manuscripts and the required forms. Full papers will be = reviewed for acceptance only when all appropriate forms have been = completed and received=2E Classified Technical Program Submission Process: All persons wishing to attend and/or participate in the Classified = Technical Program must, at a minimum, possess a current Secret personnel = security clearance and be a U.S. citizen. Non-U.S. originated papers will = NOT be accepted for the Classified Technical Program. All abstracts for = the Classified Technical Program must be unclassified. Please submit a = title and a brief unclassified abstract (up to 2000 characters) of your = intended paper via email to: casto.milcom2007@harris.com. Each submission = requires author name, affiliation, citizenship, address, phone and fax = numbers, email address, and the applicable area. For papers with more than = one author, indicate the point of contact. Do NOT use WAMS to submit = abstracts, full papers, or the final papers for the Classified Technical = Program. All papers for the Classified Technical Program must be prepared = following the instructions and formatting guidelines in the Classified = Author=92s Kit=2E Proposals for Tutorials and Panels:=20 MILCOM 2007 solicits proposals for unclassified half-day tutorials, and = unclassified and classified panels on state-of-the art communications, = networking, and interoperability technologies. The tutorial proposals = should include a brief outline of the tutorial, instructor biography, and = relevant instructor experience. The Unclassified Tutorials Kit provides the applicable forms and the formatting guidelines for the = tutorial material. Please forward your proposals to the MILCOM 2007 = Tutorial Program Chair, Rich Folio, at folio.milcom2007@harris.com=2E Proposals for Panels:=20 The proposals for panels should include a brief outline of the panel = discussion topics, panel participants, and panel moderator along with = their bios. A Panels Kit provides the information about the applicable = forms and the guidelines for the preparation of the panel material. Please = forward your proposals to the MILCOM 2007 Panels Program Chair, Leo = deCardenas, at decardenas.milcom2007@harris.com=2E Tutorials and Panels Important Dates: Proposals Due: 16 March 2007 Notification: 20 April 2007 Material Due: 13 July 2007 For further details and information about MILCOM 2007 please visit = www.milcom.org. _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 05 14:16:05 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOIeM-0000cV-Gz; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:15:10 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOIeL-0000bJ-JR for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:15:09 -0500 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.186]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOIeH-0007by-Ez for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:15:09 -0500 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so2341489nfa for ; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:15:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=izoiaRQubq2C568DDLxwPywe6KXMn1tYlw1BXekwLkjRhB5EGtJ+KTixotkDBvxC6p4B29f6HTlj7BNjAB1vGHZWLWjeKCmfBtfWu95CtGeol96GgA3ze/IUt0UKytefugwfNfK/sc10bR9k62udw0rPgGq6T04gSVbD3p/3USQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=r4yw/K5ypn6jjLtlstawmYSjtP0oz5XOwjNm35NZ8BPtuFS/OWhwbRgoQ43arK2tXQf4bHfuu3AveUhQKNNy46GaZoGLnOpjWmImO2ZNyhU7iqnuSeUZg4qcyY/p19ab8mccZEIM38lrCVnslu/7pzFV0bxFXKyXm7h8Dk4WA6U= Received: by 10.82.114.3 with SMTP id m3mr5656988buc.1173122104253; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:15:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.176.7 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:15:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:15:04 -0300 From: super.ismiti To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e5ba305d0e64821bf3d8bc5d3bb07228 Subject: [manet] Help with NS2 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1912065279==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============1912065279== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_128863_31599822.1173122104195" ------=_Part_128863_31599822.1173122104195 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I'm trying to install the NS2 but I'm new in Linux and NS... I'm having a problem in the instalation. I'm using Ubuntu linux and gcc 4.1.2. When I try to execute "./install" line inside the ns-allinone-2.30 directory it returns the follow error: ... "C compiler cannot create executables" ... Sb could help me, I think that is a simple error, but I'm starting now with linux and NS, so I don't know what I need to do. Thanks, Ricardo. ------=_Part_128863_31599822.1173122104195 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi,

I'm trying to install the NS2 but I'm new in Linux and NS...
I'm having a problem in the instalation.
I'm using Ubuntu linux and gcc 4.1.2.

When I try to execute "./install" line inside the ns-allinone-2.30 directory it returns the follow error:
... "C compiler cannot create executables" ...

Sb could help me, I think that is a simple error, but I'm starting now with linux and NS, so I don't know what I need to do.

Thanks,
Ricardo.
------=_Part_128863_31599822.1173122104195-- --===============1912065279== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============1912065279==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 05 15:35:07 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOJt1-0003cE-4p; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:34:23 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOJsz-0003bS-7o for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:34:21 -0500 Received: from smtp4.na.baesystems.com ([63.164.202.13]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOJsx-0006X1-Ky for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:34:21 -0500 Received: from BLUMS0022.bluelnk.net (blums0022.na.baesystems.com [10.40.96.145]) by smtp4.na.baesystems.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l25KYBgP011451 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:34:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from blums0002.bluelnk.net (blums0002.na.baesystems.com [10.40.96.102]) by smtp1.na.baesystems.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l25KYBa6022862 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:34:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from BLUMS0005.bluelnk.net ([10.40.96.105]) by blums0002.bluelnk.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:34:11 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [manet] Update on Chinacom 2007 O.T. Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:34:10 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [manet] Update on Chinacom 2007 O.T. Thread-Index: Acde7BcXQGCMEVCRSHahzbQ1yhILwgAVlBYgAAh7SUA= References: <6041DFE0D1848F4EA5B9B2368E2C4F3B0406B583@XCH-SW-3V2.sw.nos.boeing.com> From: "Wujciak, James \(US SSA\)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2007 20:34:11.0054 (UTC) FILETIME=[A19460E0:01C75F65] X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9e1884bf469cda400682762c3e8d96c9 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1877191025==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1877191025== content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C75F65.A12B84B3" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C75F65.A12B84B3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Three off-topic thoughts: =20 1. Concern about technology transfer should be not be concerned about = the location of the meeting... The audience of most lectures is not = controlled. 2. Concern should be extended to E-Mails. 3. The protocol and discussions about it are available on-the-net. =20 Jim _____ =20 From: Nguyen, Dzung [mailto:Dzung.Nguyen@boeing.com]=20 Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:24 AM To: manet@ietf.org Subject: RE: [manet] Update on Chinacom 2007 Recently I saw lots of emails traffics consulting about technology like = manet, expecially from China, are we deeply aware about technology = transfer? Just opinion. =20 Regards, =20 _____ =20 From: Teck-Yoong Chai [mailto:tychai@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 10:00 PM To: manet@ietf.org; itc@comsoc.org Subject: [manet] Update on Chinacom 2007 1. Conference proceeding to be indexed by EI 2. Relevant papers to be considered for journal publication 3. Student travel grants available =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D My apology if you receive multiple copies of this message.=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 CHINACOM 2007 Call For Papers August 22-24, 2007, Shanghai, China -=20 http://www.chinacom.org =20 Co-Sponsored by Create-Net and ICST Technical Sponsored by IEEE, IEEE MTT-S, IEEE CAS, IEEE CVTC, Shanghai = Jiao Tong University, Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications. =20 IMPORTANT DATES Submission: March 15th, 2007 Notification: May 31st, 2007 Camera Ready: June 30th, 2007 Conference: August, 22-24, 2007 All ACCEPTED and PRESENTED papers will be included in the CHINACOM 2007 Conference Proceedings and made available in IEEExplore Digital Library = and then be indexed by Engineering Information (EI).=20 Selected papers from CHINACOM2007 will be considered for Computer = Networks and Ad Hoc Networks. Relevant papers will also be considered for a = special issue on Advanced in Wireless Mesh Networks, ACM/Springer Mobile = Networks and Applications (MONET). CHINACOM is being positioned as the premier international annual = conference for the presentation of original and fundamental research advances in = the field of Communications, Networks, and Internet Applications. The = conference will consist of Technical Symposia and Workshops. PAPERS: The conference invites original technical papers that were not = previously published and are not currently under review for publication elsewhere. Authors are invited to submit papers to the following symposia: - Frontiers on Communications and Networking - Optical Communications and Networking - Wireless Communications and Networking - Advances in Internet - Communication Theory and Signal Processing for Communications - Networking Security and Information Assurance PANELS/WORKSHOPS: Proposals for panels/workshops are solicited. Potential chairs are = requested to submit a proposal to one of the panel/workshop Chairs by March 15th, = 2007 for review ( leizd@i2r.a-star.edu.sg ; = bernard.uguen@univ-rennes1.fr; haifeng.wang@nokia.com ; wasim.malik@eng.ox.ac.uk). SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS: Conference language is English. Prospective authors are encouraged to = submit a PDF version of the full paper in IEEE conference proceedings format, = which are limited to 5 two-column pages in a 10-points font. All paper = submissions will be handled electronically. Please submit the paper through the = COCUS System,http://cocus.info . Visit the conference = website http://www.chinacom.org/submission.shtml for detailed submission requirements and procedures. STUDENT TRAVEL GRANTS: Applications are invited from qualified graduate students. Up to 10 = awards are expected. GENERAL CO-CHAIRS Wenjun Zhang, Vice President, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Sherman Shen, University of Waterloo GENERAL Vice CO-CHAIRS Jianping Chen, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Honggang Zhang, Create-Net TPC CO-CHAIRS Andreas F. Molisch, MERL/Lund University Xiaodong Wang, Columbia University Matti Latva-aho,University of Oulu SYMPOSIUM CO-CHAIRS Zhihua Guo, Lenovo Stefan Mangold, Swisscom Innovations Jun Zheng, University of Ottawa Indra Widjaja, Bell Labs, Alcatel-Lucent Yikai Su, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Pin-Han Ho, University of Waterloo Petri Mahonen, RWTH Aachen University Chonggang Wang, University of Arkansas Wenye Wang, North Carolina State University Minglu Li, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Junzhong Gu, East China Normal University Jie Wu, Florida Atlantic University Thomas Kaiser, Leibniz University of Hannover Zongxin Wang, Fudan University Mischa Dohler, France Telecom Zhenfu Cao, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Peter Stavroulakis, Technical University of Crete Radha Poovendran, University of Washington STEERING COMMITTEE Imrich Chlamtac, Create-Net Yabin Ye, Create-Net Zheng Zhou, BUPT Bo Li, HKUST WORKSHOPS CO-CHAIRS Haifeng Wang, Nokia Wasim Q. Malik, Oxford University PANELS CO-CHAIRS Zhongding Lei, I2R Bernard Uguen, Universit=E9 de Rennes 1 PUBLICITY CO-CHAIRS Marina Petrova, RWTH Aachen University Teck Yoong Chai, I2R PUBLICATION CHAIR Chunsheng Xin, Norfolk State University Bin Wang, Wright State University LOCAL ARRANGEMENT CO-CHAIRS Xiaokang Yang, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Shenghong Li, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Xinbing Wang, Shanghai Jiao Tong University INTERN. ARRANGEMENT CHAIR Zsuzsi Kaszab, ICST INTERNATIONAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE Ian Akyildiz, Georgia Institute of Technology Yeheskel (Zeke) Bar-Ness, NJIT Bob Brodersen, UC Berkeley Junliang Chen, BUPT Roberto Coisson, Italian Embassy in China Jon Crowcroft, University of Cambridge Leonard Kleinrock, UCLA Hisashi Kobayashi, Princeton University Byeong Gi Lee, Seoul National University Jintong Lin, BUPT Guangnan Ni, Inst. of Computing Technology Hequan Wu, Chinese Academy of Engineering Ya-Qin Zhang, Microsoft ------_=_NextPart_001_01C75F65.A12B84B3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Three off-topic thoughts:
 
1. Concern about technology transfer should = be not be=20 concerned about the location of the meeting... The audience of most = lectures is=20 not controlled.
2. Concern should be extended to=20 E-Mails.
3. The protocol and discussions about it are = available=20 on-the-net.
 
Jim

From: Nguyen, Dzung=20 [mailto:Dzung.Nguyen@boeing.com]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 = 11:24=20 AM
To: manet@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [manet] Update on = Chinacom 2007

Recently I saw lots of emails traffics = consulting about=20 technology like manet, expecially from China, are we deeply aware about=20 technology transfer? Just opinion.
 
Regards,
 

From: Teck-Yoong Chai = [mailto:tychai@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 10:00 PM
To: = manet@ietf.org;=20 itc@comsoc.org
Subject: [manet] Update on Chinacom=20 2007

1. Conference proceeding to be indexed by EI
2. Relevant = papers to=20 be considered for journal publication
3. Student travel grants=20 available

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
My apology if=20 you receive multiple copies of this message.=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 
CHINACOM 2007 =
Call For Papers
August 22-24, 2007, Shanghai, China - 
http://www.chinacom.org 

Co-Sponsored by Create-Net and =
ICST
Technical Sponsored by IEEE, IEEE MTT-S, IEEE CAS, IEEE CVTC, =
Shanghai Jiao
Tong University, Beijing University of Posts and =
Telecommunications.

 
IMPORTANT DATES
Submission: 	March 15th, =
2007
Notification:	May 31st, 2007
Camera Ready:	June 30th, =
2007
Conference:	August, 22-24, 2007

All ACCEPTED and =
PRESENTED papers will be included in the CHINACOM 2007

Conference Proceedings and made available in IEEExplore Digital =
Library and
then be indexed by Engineering Information (EI). =


Selected papers from CHINACOM2007 will be considered for =
Computer Networks
and Ad Hoc Networks. Relevant papers will also be =
considered for a special

issue on Advanced in Wireless Mesh Networks, ACM/Springer Mobile =
Networks
and Applications (MONET).

CHINACOM is being =
positioned as the premier international annual conference
for the =
presentation of original and fundamental research advances in the

field of Communications, Networks, and Internet Applications. The =
conference
will consist of Technical Symposia and =
Workshops.

PAPERS:
The conference invites original technical =
papers that were not previously

published and are not currently under review for publication =
elsewhere.
Authors are invited to submit papers to the following =
symposia:

- Frontiers on Communications and Networking
- =
Optical Communications and Networking

- Wireless Communications and Networking
- Advances in =
Internet
- Communication Theory and Signal Processing for =
Communications
- Networking Security and Information =
Assurance


PANELS/WORKSHOPS:

Proposals for panels/workshops are solicited. Potential chairs are =
requested
to submit a proposal to one of the panel/workshop Chairs by =
March 15th, 2007
for review (
leizd@i2r.a-star.edu.sg; bernard.uguen@univ-rennes1.=
fr;
haifeng.wang@nokia.com
; wasim.malik@eng.ox.ac.uk).
SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS:
Conference language is English. =
Prospective authors are encouraged to submit

a PDF version of the full paper in IEEE conference proceedings =
format, which
are limited to 5 two-column pages in a 10-points font. =
All paper submissions
will be handled electronically. Please submit =
the paper through the COCUS

System,http://cocus.info. Visit the conference =
website
http://www.chinacom.org=
/submission.shtml
 for detailed submission
requirements and =
procedures.


STUDENT TRAVEL GRANTS:
Applications are =
invited from qualified graduate students. Up to 10 awards
are =
expected.


GENERAL CO-CHAIRS

Wenjun Zhang, Vice President, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Sherman =
Shen, University of Waterloo

GENERAL Vice CO-CHAIRS
Jianping =
Chen, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Honggang Zhang, =
Create-Net

TPC CO-CHAIRS

Andreas F. Molisch, MERL/Lund University
Xiaodong Wang, Columbia =
University
Matti Latva-aho,University of Oulu

SYMPOSIUM =
CO-CHAIRS

Zhihua Guo, Lenovo
Stefan Mangold, Swisscom =
Innovations
Jun Zheng, University of Ottawa


Indra Widjaja, Bell Labs, Alcatel-Lucent
Yikai Su, Shanghai =
Jiao Tong University
Pin-Han Ho, University of Waterloo

Petri =
Mahonen, RWTH Aachen University
Chonggang Wang, University of =
Arkansas
Wenye Wang, North Carolina State University


Minglu Li, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Junzhong Gu, East =
China Normal University
Jie Wu, Florida Atlantic =
University

Thomas Kaiser, Leibniz University of =
Hannover
Zongxin Wang, Fudan University

Mischa Dohler, France Telecom

Zhenfu Cao, Shanghai Jiao Tong =
University
Peter Stavroulakis, Technical University of Crete
Radha =
Poovendran, University of Washington


STEERING =
COMMITTEE
Imrich Chlamtac, Create-Net

Yabin Ye, Create-Net
Zheng Zhou, BUPT
Bo Li, =
HKUST

WORKSHOPS CO-CHAIRS
Haifeng Wang, Nokia
Wasim Q. =
Malik, Oxford University

PANELS CO-CHAIRS
Zhongding Lei, =
I2R
Bernard Uguen, Universit=E9 de Rennes 1


PUBLICITY CO-CHAIRS
Marina Petrova, RWTH Aachen =
University
Teck Yoong Chai, I2R

PUBLICATION CHAIR
Chunsheng =
Xin, Norfolk State University
Bin Wang, Wright State =
University

LOCAL ARRANGEMENT CO-CHAIRS

Xiaokang Yang, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Shenghong Li, =
Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Xinbing Wang, Shanghai Jiao Tong =
University

INTERN. ARRANGEMENT CHAIR
Zsuzsi Kaszab, =
ICST

INTERNATIONAL ADVISORY

COMMITTEE
Ian Akyildiz, Georgia Institute of =
Technology
Yeheskel (Zeke) Bar-Ness, NJIT
Bob Brodersen, UC =
Berkeley
Junliang Chen, BUPT
Roberto Coisson, Italian Embassy in =
China
Jon Crowcroft, University of Cambridge

Leonard Kleinrock, UCLA
Hisashi Kobayashi, Princeton =
University
Byeong Gi Lee, Seoul National University
Jintong Lin, =
BUPT
Guangnan Ni, Inst. of Computing Technology
Hequan Wu, Chinese =
Academy of Engineering

Ya-Qin Zhang, Microsoft

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and possibly emerging WiMAX (IEEE 802.16). With a dual-mode enable mobile terminal, a subscriber is able to roam freely and seamless handoff between cellular networks and unlicensed wireless networks. With intelligent horizontal and vertical handoff technologies in UMA, subscribers receive voice and data service continuously, smoothly and transparently. To achieve these aims, there still exist a number of technical challenges. Mobility management is one of the most important issues to address. Vertical and horizontal handoff algorithms shall be intelligently designed to adapt to heterogeneous wireless environments. In addition, guaranteeing Quality-of-Service (QoS) during movement and handoff is also of great importance in order to satisfy subscribers' requirements. Furthermore, Software Defined Radio (SDR) or Cognitive Radio (CR) is a key enabling technology for the success of UMA. 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The proposal should include the chapter organization, number of pages of the final manuscript and contact authors. Proposal Deadline: 15, March 2007 Notification of proposal acceptance: 30, March 2007 Full chapter submission: 30, June 2007 Review report received: 30, August 2007 Final version submission: 30, Oct. 2007 ****Note: each lead chapter author will get a free copy of the book.**** Manuscript Submission ===================== *Set as double-spaced *Estimated, each chapter should has about 15 pages in the typeset format; i.e. about 30 pages with double-space format. Contact ======= Please make correspondence and paper submissions to: Dr. Yan ZHANG Simula Research Laboratory, Norway Email: yanzhang ieee.org Dr. Laurence T. YANG St. Francis Xavier University, Canada Email: lyang stfx.ca Dr. Jianhua MA Hosei University, Japan Email: jianhua hosei.ac.jp _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 05 17:29:25 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOLg4-0003dX-3r; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 17:29:08 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOKtc-0006pK-9A for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:39:04 -0500 Received: from server9.hosting2go.nl ([83.137.192.232]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOKT7-00054s-8V for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:11:50 -0500 Received: (qmail 3149 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2007 22:04:36 +0100 Received: from ip56530916.direct-adsl.nl (HELO Teco) (86.83.9.22) by server9.hosting2go.nl with SMTP; 5 Mar 2007 22:04:35 +0100 From: "Teco Boot" To: "'Alexandru Petrescu'" Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 22:05:05 +0100 Message-ID: <004901c75f6a$0566e530$0202a8c0@Teco> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-index: AcdfAx0I1ieREsGdQd6NfDb84kVnDQAZFkqA In-Reply-To: <45EBD93F.30103@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7655788c23eb79e336f5f8ba8bce7906 Cc: nemo@ietf.org, manet@ietf.org, manemo@mobileip.jp, 'Monami6 WG' Subject: [manet] RE: WPF syndrome and MONAMI6 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Alexandru wrote: > Doesn't OSPF provide metrics in its LSAs (Link State Advertisements) > that can help a router select the best metric at it sees fit? I think > it does. [Teco] OLSRv2 is still using hop count. Additions to OLSR could enhance that. OSPF, including OSPF MANET is using cost based metric. For network types P2P and P2MP a metric can be set for each neighbor. OSPF MANET-interface is P2MP. Example in draft-chandra-ospf-manet-ext-04 (section 3.1.2.1 Router LSAs) shows selective metrics, this would be a solution for WPF. draft-ogier-manet-ospf-extension-08.txt is similar. The question is how to update the metric dynamicly, this requires an L2 API. Or count missed hellos / LSA retransmits etc. The question is adopting this mechanism by oyther MANET protocols, for example by TD and use RA-TIO path metric instead of hop count? And do we need rules for actual metric values set? _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 06 02:42:48 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOUHY-00051J-JB; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 02:40:24 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOUHX-0004xr-Gs for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 02:40:23 -0500 Received: from web63015.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.96.242]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOUHW-0007if-03 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 02:40:23 -0500 Received: (qmail 93936 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Mar 2007 07:40:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=H6kV6/g9mX72IIRxaRx/Hdj9ar0UGQZDme3FEo/vQmG856ANMh9x3inz8jWXw2DtjXK0tolX6ZriVqNLklMrScgZ8mwg2rrT53Bklu1EiB0AdZDE2aUazi02FrnLHlivFJtN7DnF4DOGXfT+eWkwnnUWeQZozaxREItEOQt7lYc= ; Message-ID: <20070306074019.93934.qmail@web63015.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: XpsKUZIVM1lHk3XHVDBPbaZRYBGNSYXiIx96D4dMe8AHj1fRbFVGgFhVAXEDzgv7SbHXmraYyDNb9W8.e918EiUC_IReaD3I08U.XKWsoS2EGZ_yVzhq0TQrkJsXH5o- Received: from [122.164.148.159] by web63015.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:40:16 PST Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:40:16 -0800 (PST) From: Mohamed Haneef To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 798b2e660f1819ae38035ac1d8d5e3ab Subject: [manet] LOTAR X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0089807054==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============0089807054== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-318584256-1173166816=:85823" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --0-318584256-1173166816=:85823 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit HI everyone, Im a final year computer science student and im doing a project on the Location trace aided routing protocol(LOTAR) can anyone help me with the code. 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always stay connected to friends. --0-318584256-1173166816=:85823-- --===============0089807054== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============0089807054==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 06 04:43:25 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOWBE-0001uc-Ll; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 04:42:00 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOWBD-0001uX-TR for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 04:41:59 -0500 Received: from anyida.tts.lth.se ([130.235.18.10]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOWBC-0000lY-9S for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 04:41:59 -0500 Received: from Barbarcw (ida69 [130.235.18.69]) by anyida.tts.lth.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02747 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:42:19 +0100 (MET) From: "Christer Wibom" To: Subject: RE: [manet] Dymo hopcount update implementation question. Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:42:01 +0100 Message-ID: <002101c75fd3$b157adc0$d732eb82@Barbarcw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acdc2IGUt8k0/fQxS5e9jhWXEqGIRAC+iAAg X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a0534e6179a1e260079328e8b03c7901 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hi Romain. One thought that pops into my mind is that when you do the comparison if the information in the RM is better than the information that you have in your routing table and seq. nbr. is the same and it is an RREP you will compare node.hopcount > Route.hopcount + 1. That means that that node.hopcount must be 2 hops more to trigger this part. Yours sincerely Christer Wibom -----Original Message----- From: Romain Thouvenin [mailto:romain.thouvenin@gmail.com] Sent: den 2 mars 2007 15:38 To: Christer Wibom Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] Dymo hopcount update implementation question. Hi, I didn't read all the description of your example, but here is what I can say : According to the draft, MsgHdr.HopCnt and each AddTLV.HopCnt are incremented before processing anything (5.3.4 - RM processing). And I think it does matter. So Neighbors are 1-hop nodes. Hope it helps, Romain On 3/2/07, Christer Wibom wrote: > > > > > Hi. > > > > At the moment I'm doing my masters thesis at Lund University (Sweden) and we > are looking at dymo and trying to understand the drafts. > > > > My question is as follows: > > Should you update the hopcount, Add.TLV.Node.Hopcnt, > in each element before you update the local routing table, RT, or after > updating the RT? (Does it matter?) > > We are worried that in some circumstances it would > matter. (We haven't found any yet. But are speculating about an installation > of nodes where different vendors implementation of DYMO are being used, > where the have different implementations on the hopcount increment) > > > > We are using NS, using the latest DYMOUM implementation, to do some > simulations. To clarify my point I'm going to give you an example: > > > > > > Let's assume the following static node distribution: > > 0 > > 1 > 5 > > > > 2 > 4 > > 3 > > > > Each node can only communicate with its closest neighbour. > > Node 0 wants to send some data to node 3. > > Possible ways are 0-5-4-3 or 0-1-2-3 > > > > In my NS simulation the RREQ yhat first comes to node 3 comes from node 4 > and looks like this: > > > > node 3: generic_process_message: RREQ received in nsif from 4 > > r 10.005081676 _3_ RTR --- 70 DYMOUM 72 [0 ffffffff 4 800] ------- [4:255 > -1:255 1 0] [ RE 0 0 52 8 0 1 3 0 0 [0 0 2 0 2 78] [0 0 1 5 2 78] [0 0 0 4 2 > 78] ] > > > > Some explanations to NS log file ( truncated to only show relevant parts ) > > [ RE 0 0 52 8 0 1 3 0 0 [ g-bit prefix hop_count node_address node_seq_nbr > energyLevel ] [.] [.] ] > > > > RT for node 3 after processing RREQ from node 4. NS timeStamp 10.005081676 > > [ 4, 4, 1, 2 ] > > [ 5, 4, 2, 2 ] > > [ 0, 4, 3, 2 ] > > > > Where every RT entry should be interpreted is as follows: > > [destination, next hop, nbr. hops to destination, seq. nbr. of destination ] > > > > Here we se that the original code of DYMOUM updated hopcount to node 0 > before adding it to the RT. > > > > When the second RREQ reaches node 3 ( from 2 ) it should be dropt as > inferior ( and so it is) > > > > We changed the DYMOUM code to increment hopcount after info was added to the > RT, with the following result: > > > > r 10.005081676 _3_ RTR --- 70 DYMOUM 72 [0 ffffffff 4 800] ------- [4:255 > -1:255 1 0] [ RE 0 0 52 8 0 1 3 0 0 [0 0 2 0 2 78] [0 0 1 5 2 78] [0 0 0 4 2 > 78] ] > > > > node 3: generic_process_message: RREQ received in nsif from 4 > > RT for node 3 after processing RREQ from node 4. NS timeStamp 10.005081676 > > [ 4, 4, 0, 2 ] > > [ 5, 4, 1, 2 ] > > [ 0, 4, 2, 2 ] > > > > Here we see that the routing entry to host 0 hopcount matches info that we > got in RM. > > > > We get the same result as before when the RREQ comes from node 2. > > > > We consulted the Dymo draft 07 section 4.1 and found the following entry: > > Route.HopCnt > > The number of intermediate node hops traversed before reaching the > > Route.Address node. Route.HopCnt assists in determining whether > > received routing information is superior to existing known > > information. > > We don't know how to interpreter this. should it be 2 hops from node 3 to > node 2 or should it be 3 hops.. > > > > > > Yours sincerely > > Christer Wibom > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 06 05:29:48 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOWv1-0008HC-BL; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 05:29:19 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOWuz-0008Gj-Ki; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 05:29:17 -0500 Received: from mail.unilim.fr ([164.81.1.45] helo=smtp.unilim.fr) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOWuv-0001jZ-5w; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 05:29:17 -0500 Received: from [164.81.60.82] (sauveron-port.msi.unilim.fr [164.81.60.82]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.unilim.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l26AT1nh020291 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 6 Mar 2007 11:29:01 +0100 Message-ID: <45ED426C.6000800@xlim.fr> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:29:00 +0100 From: Damien Sauveron User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: manet@ietf.org, mip6@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Univ-Limoges-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.unilim.fr [164.81.1.45]); Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:29:01 +0100 (CET) X-Univ-Limoges-MailScanner-Information: Serveur Anti-virus Please contact the SCI, Univ. of Limoges, for more information X-Univ-Limoges-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Univ-Limoges-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (cached, score=-101.299, requis 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_50 0.00, SMTP_AUTH -100.00, VOWEL_TOCC_5 0.50) X-Univ-Limoges-MailScanner-Envelope-From: damien.sauveron@xlim.fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by smtp.unilim.fr id l26AT1nh020291 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2e8fc473f5174be667965460bd5288ba Cc: Subject: [manet] CFP IAS'07 (Paper Submission Deadline: 20th March 2007) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Call for Papers (Paper Submission Deadline: 20th March 2007) The Third International Symposium on Information Assurance and Security (IAS'07) http://www.ias07.org/ August 29-31, 2007, Manchester, United Kingdom Proceedings published by IEEE CS press Technically sponsored by ICST (http://www.icst.org/) and CREATE-NET (http://www.create-net.it/) Overview: Information assurance and security has become an important research issue in networked and distributed information sharing environments. 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Key Deadlines: Paper Submission Deadline: March 20, 2007 Author Notification: May 10, 2007 Camera Ready Submission Deadline (6 pages): June 8, 2007 Author Registration Deadline: June 8, 2007 Panel/Tutorial Proposal Submission Deadline: April 20, 2007 Proposal Notification: May 10, 2007 Contacts: Further enquiries regarding matters related to IAS'07 can be sent to the Conference Local Organising Chairs: Ms Bryony Quick; or Mr Iain Hart; Email: ias07@cs.man.ac.uk Tel: +44 (0)161 275 6130 Fax: +44 (0)161 275 6204 --=20 Damien Sauveron _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 06 11:40:58 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOchF-00034b-Ee; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:39:29 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOchD-00034W-Va for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:39:27 -0500 Received: from cartero1.sci.uma.es ([150.214.47.225]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOchC-0000RT-Kh for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:39:27 -0500 Received: from correo1.uma.es (vesta1.sci.uma.es [150.214.40.21]) by cartero1.sci.uma.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8801837F for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:39:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from pc-0d38f6d9d1eb.dte.uma.es (pc43te.dte.uma.es [150.214.59.43]) by correo1.uma.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD69A406B for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:39:16 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.0.20070306173217.03c6fe70@dte.uma.es> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 17:39:24 +0100 To: manet@ietf.org From: Alicia =?iso-8859-1?Q?Trivi=F1o?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: bb8f917bb6b8da28fc948aeffb74aa17 Subject: [manet] Doubts about Global Connectivity: IGWADV-N X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hello: I have several doubts related to the "Global=20 connectivity mechanism" for integrating mobile ad=20 hoc networks into the Internet. - The validity of entries in the Internet Gateway=20 list and in the Internet Gateway Prefix List is=20 derived from the IGWADV-N. Which field is used=20 for this purpose? The =93Reachable Time=94? (I think=20 that the =93Router Lifetime=94 could not be used as=20 it is set to 0 when NDP extensions are employed). - Should not the "Router Lifetime" include=20 information about the validity of the routing=20 information in both cases:IGWADV-N or IGWADV-M ? - In the IGWADV-N format, the M (Managed Address=20 Autoconfiguration) bit is suppressed although it=20 is present in the RA messages (NDP specifications). Why is this bit= suppressed? Any help? Thanks in advance, Alicia Trivi=F1o / Tl. +34-95.213.71.91 Dpto. Tecnologia Electronica E.T.S. Ing. Telecomunicacion Universidad de Malaga Campus Universitario de Teatinos 29071 Malaga, Spain _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 06 11:44:03 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOclS-0007qa-9d; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:43:50 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOclQ-0007qK-A9 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:43:48 -0500 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.245]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOclN-00010Y-Mu for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:43:48 -0500 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d30so1934675and for ; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 08:43:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=trRr6t5qo+AWvCIast7Itlvue3qNUrQiws3IpgihLI5yNHcO2CkseK1HgZWu9SG3cnfOo6olKDwF4TjAJ86rK/c4FeRi3obpH6K1Ct/jztx1Yby23jVS4TS6xVhPGwqUKRrozKkl4YcoWkVR1fz2n46J6vZO6Z4R4lZiAruKH/k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=AzQb/VZwKr0iUwQEZrrUCuJWV8diFYhgn7iBbBoVIEbtKOG72BbDHt1e7+iImC5Ek4Ov14MqVq2348NVmPFybVU/EDBdM8szP4lLQPiaIvulSP+WK6ioHayuucEVpvvExhmIhTL3uvBHRZwLs+xWq1Wslgx/S3Y8N894g12zCOk= Received: by 10.100.44.13 with SMTP id r13mr3617323anr.1173199424408; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 08:43:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.136.17 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 08:43:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <11cc02d70703060843h70fe6756v79ac049ff545586a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 08:43:44 -0800 From: "Vinayak Naik" To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 754d1e5d930b7f07 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 39bd8f8cbb76cae18b7e23f7cf6b2b9f Subject: [manet] IPSN'07 Tutorial on Acoustic and Seismic Wireless Sensing Systems, Call for Participation X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org *Advance Registration Deadline: 4/13/07* *Program Schedule:* http://www.lecs.cs.ucla.edu/~naik/talks/acoustic-and-seismic-tutorial_ipsn-= 2007.htm *Registration in Website:* http://www.cse.wustl.edu/ipsn07.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- CALL FOR PARTICIPATION Wireless sensing systems for acoustic and seismic monitoring: Hands on tutorial April 24, 2007 =AD Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA Abstract: In a half-day tutorial, we will give hands-on EXPLORATION OF wireless acoustic and seismic sensing systems. Both systems are based on a common software and hardware platform, and share robustness and scalability features. Both the systems use battery powered sensor nodes BASED ON AN XScale processor, running Linux, 802.11b radios, and software written in EmStar. For each system we will describe the key components of the system in detail, set up the array, demonstrate the use of the system, run the self-configuration software, delve into the details of the sampling and system software, and analyze data coming from the system; we will also write some simple programs to modify the nodes behavior. Speakers: Lewis Girod (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) Vinayak Naik (University of California at Los Angles) _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 06 15:51:55 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOgcB-0003tn-UD; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 15:50:31 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOgbk-0002hQ-Ng; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 15:50:04 -0500 Received: from ns0.neustar.com ([156.154.16.158]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOgbj-0002p6-KR; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 15:50:04 -0500 Received: from stiedprstage1.ietf.org (stiedprstage1.va.neustar.com [10.31.47.10]) by ns0.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0755D32A71; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:50:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ietf by stiedprstage1.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HOgbi-00065b-TA; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 15:50:02 -0500 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Message-Id: Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 15:50:02 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Scan-Signature: 5011df3e2a27abcc044eaa15befcaa87 Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-manet-smf-04.txt X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group of the IETF. Title : Simplified Multicast Forwarding for MANET Author(s) : J. Macker Filename : draft-ietf-manet-smf-04.txt Pages : 41 Date : 2007-3-6 This document describes the Simplified Multicast Forwarding (SMF) protocol that provides a basic IP multicast forwarding capability suitable for mobile ad-hoc networks (MANET). SMF is designed to have limited applicability as a forwarding mechanism for multicast packets within MANET routing areas. In addition, it provides mechanisms to support interoperability with a connected fixed-infrastructure networks. SMF uses a simplified forwarding mechanism that delivers multicast packets to all MANET multicast receivers within a MANET routing area. The core design does not use receiver specific group information in favor of reduced complexity and state maintenance within the mobile topology. 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In-Reply-To: <002101c75fd3$b157adc0$d732eb82@Barbarcw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <002101c75fd3$b157adc0$d732eb82@Barbarcw> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 850245b51c39701e2700a112f3032caa Cc: manet@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org In my haste to meet the ID submission deadline, I did not get a chance to properly revise the inferior section. Here is my revised text, I think it addresses your concern. Please let me know if it doesn't. Ian 3. Inferior If the information is not loop-possible AND Node.SeqNum == Route.SeqNum, the incoming information may be inferior; additional information must be examined. If Node.HopCnt == to Route.HopCnt, the current route is not Broken, and the message is a RREQ, then the new information is inferior. This rule will stop RREQ propagation if the HopCnt is equivalent. If Node.HopCnt == to Route.HopCnt + 1, the current route is not Broken, and the message is a RREQ, then the new information is inferior. This rule will stop RREQ propagation if the HopCnt is larger. If Node.HopCnt == Route.HopCnt + 1, the current route is not Broken and the message is RREP, then the new information is inferior. This rule will stop RREP propagation if the HopCnt is larger, but allows it to propagate if equivalent. Inferior routes will not cause routing loops if introduced, but should not be used since better information is already available. !(Loop-Possible) AND (Node.SeqNum == Route.SeqNum) AND (Route.Broken == false) AND ((Node.HopCnt == Route.HopCnt) AND (RM is RREQ)) OR ((Node.HopCnt == Route.HopCnt + 1) AND (RM is RREQ)) OR ((Node.HopCnt == Route.HopCnt + 1) AND (RM is RREP))) On 3/6/07, Christer Wibom wrote: > > Hi Romain. > > One thought that pops into my mind is that when you do the comparison if the > information in the RM is better than the information that you have in your > routing table and seq. nbr. is the same and it is an RREP you will compare > node.hopcount > Route.hopcount + 1. That means that that node.hopcount must > be 2 hops more to trigger this part. > > Yours sincerely > Christer Wibom > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Romain Thouvenin [mailto:romain.thouvenin@gmail.com] > Sent: den 2 mars 2007 15:38 > To: Christer Wibom > Cc: manet@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [manet] Dymo hopcount update implementation question. > > Hi, > > I didn't read all the description of your example, but here is what I can > say : > According to the draft, MsgHdr.HopCnt and each AddTLV.HopCnt are > incremented before processing anything (5.3.4 - RM processing). And I > think it does matter. > > So Neighbors are 1-hop nodes. > > Hope it helps, > Romain > > On 3/2/07, Christer Wibom wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > > > At the moment I'm doing my masters thesis at Lund University (Sweden) and > we > > are looking at dymo and trying to understand the drafts. > > > > > > > > My question is as follows: > > > > Should you update the hopcount, Add.TLV.Node.Hopcnt, > > in each element before you update the local routing table, RT, or after > > updating the RT? (Does it matter?) > > > > We are worried that in some circumstances it would > > matter. (We haven't found any yet. But are speculating about an > installation > > of nodes where different vendors implementation of DYMO are being used, > > where the have different implementations on the hopcount increment) > > > > > > > > We are using NS, using the latest DYMOUM implementation, to do some > > simulations. To clarify my point I'm going to give you an example: > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's assume the following static node distribution: > > > > 0 > > > > 1 > > 5 > > > > > > > > 2 > > 4 > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > Each node can only communicate with its closest neighbour. > > > > Node 0 wants to send some data to node 3. > > > > Possible ways are 0-5-4-3 or 0-1-2-3 > > > > > > > > In my NS simulation the RREQ yhat first comes to node 3 comes from node 4 > > and looks like this: > > > > > > > > node 3: generic_process_message: RREQ received in nsif from 4 > > > > r 10.005081676 _3_ RTR --- 70 DYMOUM 72 [0 ffffffff 4 800] ------- [4:255 > > -1:255 1 0] [ RE 0 0 52 8 0 1 3 0 0 [0 0 2 0 2 78] [0 0 1 5 2 78] [0 0 0 4 > 2 > > 78] ] > > > > > > > > Some explanations to NS log file ( truncated to only show relevant parts ) > > > > [ RE 0 0 52 8 0 1 3 0 0 [ g-bit prefix hop_count node_address node_seq_nbr > > energyLevel ] [.] [.] ] > > > > > > > > RT for node 3 after processing RREQ from node 4. NS timeStamp 10.005081676 > > > > [ 4, 4, 1, 2 ] > > > > [ 5, 4, 2, 2 ] > > > > [ 0, 4, 3, 2 ] > > > > > > > > Where every RT entry should be interpreted is as follows: > > > > [destination, next hop, nbr. hops to destination, seq. nbr. of destination > ] > > > > > > > > Here we se that the original code of DYMOUM updated hopcount to node 0 > > before adding it to the RT. > > > > > > > > When the second RREQ reaches node 3 ( from 2 ) it should be dropt as > > inferior ( and so it is) > > > > > > > > We changed the DYMOUM code to increment hopcount after info was added to > the > > RT, with the following result: > > > > > > > > r 10.005081676 _3_ RTR --- 70 DYMOUM 72 [0 ffffffff 4 800] ------- [4:255 > > -1:255 1 0] [ RE 0 0 52 8 0 1 3 0 0 [0 0 2 0 2 78] [0 0 1 5 2 78] [0 0 0 4 > 2 > > 78] ] > > > > > > > > node 3: generic_process_message: RREQ received in nsif from 4 > > > > RT for node 3 after processing RREQ from node 4. NS timeStamp 10.005081676 > > > > [ 4, 4, 0, 2 ] > > > > [ 5, 4, 1, 2 ] > > > > [ 0, 4, 2, 2 ] > > > > > > > > Here we see that the routing entry to host 0 hopcount matches info that we > > got in RM. > > > > > > > > We get the same result as before when the RREQ comes from node 2. > > > > > > > > We consulted the Dymo draft 07 section 4.1 and found the following entry: > > > > Route.HopCnt > > > > The number of intermediate node hops traversed before reaching the > > > > Route.Address node. Route.HopCnt assists in determining whether > > > > received routing information is superior to existing known > > > > information. > > > > We don't know how to interpreter this. should it be 2 hops from node 3 to > > node 2 or should it be 3 hops.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely > > > > Christer Wibom > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > manet mailing list > > manet@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 07 04:10:19 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOs9y-00087g-Gx; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 04:10:10 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOnyd-0004Qb-4b for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:42:11 -0500 Received: from web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([216.252.110.215]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOnya-0006G8-NA for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:42:11 -0500 Received: (qmail 39513 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Mar 2007 04:42:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=wFfU3E/1c0pruWF17FWYXqitlHIZjpv6fHAV7XvtGwVH3eVUKyHsx2ed2N2CoUdeoKBBWt6UgpGi6+1BlElnMpc2CODd/wTTo2dpQrWdgY6SIFe1Zj/tP4ElPlC36mdkiT06H+WCS95xWXUV0cPYaVzLZ8NDT8jL8fEfHCQqpgk=; X-YMail-OSG: 5quyPswVM1mKddQvFKloiWbguyemQgYY5JYuuNPqD_DiWk4hJIeb5IolHh5lXdzFtTNCS.GCAXyH0GFz9T3AUtivTKG_8qc1kyvNPgfzGE02NNsqJeQjaBFZGZkmq_yLQNIsrG4WPtwomoCEiuB7HxdGVA-- Received: from [71.208.148.30] by web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:42:08 PST Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:42:08 -0800 (PST) From: Qi Han To: manet@ietf.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <292954.39072.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2a76bcd37b1c8a21336eb0a1ea6bbf48 Subject: [manet] Call for Papers - MASS 2007 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org We apologize in advance if you receive multiple copies of this CFP. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ANNOUNCEMENT and CALL FOR PAPERS Fourth IEEE International Conference on Mobile Ad-hoc and Sensor Systems (MASS 2007) Pisa, October 8-11, 2007 http://cnd.iit.cnr.it/mass2007 Sponsored by IEEE, IEEE Computer Society, IEEE Technical Committee on Distributed Processing, and IEEE Technical Committee on Simulation in-cooperation with ACM SIGMOBILE **** Workshop Proposals Deadline --- February 9, 2007 **** **** Papers Submission Deadline --- March 31, 2007 **** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Wireless multi-hop communication is envisioned in multiple scenarios where network nodes communicate via other network nodes: conferences, hospitals, battlefields, rescue operations, environment control, cars-to-cars, and monitoring scenarios. 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Topics include, but not limited to: - physical layer impact on higher level protocols - MAC protocols for ad-hoc and sensor networks (802.11, 802.15.4, UWB) - Provisioning of wireless QoS in terms of bandwidth and delay assurance - Routing protocols (unicast, multicast, broadcast, geocast) and routing metrics - Data transport in wireless ad hoc and sensor networks - Power-aware and energy-efficient design - Topology construction and coverage maintenance - Cross layer design and optimization - Incentives and game theoretic approaches in wireless ad-hoc networks - Localization and synchronization in wireless sensor networks - Data gathering, fusion, and dissemination in wireless sensor - Reliability, security, and trustworthiness issues in ad hoc and sensor networks - Operating system and middleware support - Measurements and practical experience from experimental systems and test-beds - Modeling, analysis and performance evaluation - Mesh networking - Delay tolerant networks and opportunistic networking - Handoff and mobility management and seamless internetworking - Peer-to-peer, overlay, and content distribution wireless ad hoc networks ---------------------- Submission Guidelines: ---------------------- All submissions must be full papers in .pdf or .ps (PostScript) format. Papers must be uploaded to EDAS by March 31, 2007, and must not exceed 10 single-spaced, two-column pages using at least 11 point size fonts on 8.5 x 11 inch pages. Detailed submission instructions will be published in due time on the conference website http://cnd.iit.cnr.it/mass2007 -------------------- Workshops Proposals -------------------- Proposals for full day workshops are solicited. Selections will be made considering the expertise and experience of the workshop organizers and the relevance of the topic to the central theme of the conference. Proposals of at most 4 pages, including a 1-page biographical sketch, should be submitted to the Workshops Chair by February 9, 2007. See http://cnd.iit.cnr.it/mass2007/callforworkshops.html --------------- Demo Proposals: --------------- Technical demonstration of experimental ad hoc networking and computing systems are solicited. To Instructions for submitting a demo proposal will be published in due time on the conference website. ---------------- Important Dates: ---------------- Manuscript Submission Due: March 31, 2007 Acceptance Notification: June 30, 2007 Final Manuscript Due: August 10, 2007 ORGANIZING COMMITTEE ==================== GENERAL Chair Marco Conti, IIT-CNR, Italy PROGRAM Chairs Silvia Giordano, SUPSI, Switzerland Ivan Stojmenovic, University of Ottawa, Canada PROGRAM Vice Chairs Giuseppe Anastasi, University of Pisa, Italy Doug Blough, Georgia Institute of Technology, USA Soung-Chang Liew, Chinese University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong David Simplot-Ryl, University of Lille, France WORKSHOPS Chairs Luciano Bononi, University of Bologna Archan Misra, IBM Research, USA DEMO Chairs Andrea Passarella, IIT-CNR, Italy Gergely Zaruba, University of Texas at Arlington, USA AWARDS Chairs Serge Fdida, University of Paris 6, France Jie Wu, Florida Atlantic University, USA PUBLICITY Chairs Qi Han, Colorado School of Mines, USA Nathalie Mitton, INRIA, Lille, France Angela Zhang, Chinese University, Hong Kong FINANCE & REGISTRATION Chair: Anup Kumar, University of Louisville,USA PUBLICATION Chair Dajin Wang, Montclair State University, USA SUBMISSION Chair Xu Li, Carleton University, Canada INDUSTRY LIAISON Chair Jon Crowcroft, University of Cambridge, UK IEEE TC Chairs Anup Kumar (TC S), University of Louisville, USA Jie Wu (TC DP), Florida Atlantic University, USA STEERING COMMITTEE Chair Dharma P. 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Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 07 08:22:57 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOw4x-0007dE-62; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 08:21:15 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOw4v-0007c4-GA; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 08:21:13 -0500 Received: from discorde.inria.fr ([192.93.2.38]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOw4u-0004rK-3w; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 08:21:13 -0500 Received: from [192.168.112.199] (sphinx.lix.polytechnique.fr [129.104.11.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by discorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l27DKtCt015280 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:20:55 +0100 Message-ID: <45EEBC36.6060001@inria.fr> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:20:54 +0100 From: Emmanuel Baccelli User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: manet@ietf.org References: <7.0.1.0.0.20070307085104.040bf850@dte.uma.es> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20070307085104.040bf850@dte.uma.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Miltered: at discorde with ID 45EEBC37.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d6b246023072368de71562c0ab503126 Cc: autoconf@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Autoconf Problem Statement X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hi all, the MANET autoconf problem statement has been updated. http://manetautoconf.online.fr/Blog/wp-content/draft-baccelli-autoconf-problem-statement-02.txt Thourough reviewing from you is now needed in order to identify: - what is missing, and needs to be included? - what is in excess, and needs to be removed? - what is in the document, but is not entirely in the desired shape? - what is well addressed in the document? Such points must be discussed now on the Autoconf mailing list to prepare the forthcoming working group meeting in Prague. Cheers Emmanuel _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 07 11:05:24 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOyd2-00073o-PN; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:04:36 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOyd0-00073G-Fj; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:04:34 -0500 Received: from s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil ([132.250.83.3]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOycO-0005Im-LT; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:04:34 -0500 Received: from smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil [132.250.86.3]) by s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.8) with SMTP id l27G3nhM009021; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:03:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from SEXTANT [132.250.92.22]) by smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (SMSSMTP 4.1.12.43) with SMTP id M2007030711035107757 ; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:03:51 -0500 From: "Joe Macker" To: "'Emmanuel Baccelli'" , References: <7.0.1.0.0.20070307085104.040bf850@dte.uma.es> <45EEBC36.6060001@inria.fr> Subject: RE: [manet] Autoconf Problem Statement Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:03:50 -0500 Message-ID: <020901c760d2$322b5dd0$165cfa84@SEXTANT> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcdgvGK8SlDfAtrqQUKu1Q81uA9OCAAFOGog In-Reply-To: <45EEBC36.6060001@inria.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8b30eb7682a596edff707698f4a80f7d Cc: autoconf@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Still reviewing but wanted to comment on improvement. Good job removing state diagrams and DAD references based on feedback from last two meetings. -Joe >-----Original Message----- >From: Emmanuel Baccelli [mailto:Emmanuel.Baccelli@inria.fr] >Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:21 AM >To: manet@ietf.org >Cc: autoconf@ietf.org >Subject: [manet] Autoconf Problem Statement > >Hi all, > >the MANET autoconf problem statement has been updated. > >http://manetautoconf.online.fr/Blog/wp-content/draft-baccelli-a utoconf-problem-statement-02.txt > >Thourough reviewing from you is now needed in order to >identify: > > - what is missing, and needs to be included? > - what is in excess, and needs to be removed? > - what is in the document, but is not entirely in the desired shape? > - what is well addressed in the document? > >Such points must be discussed now on the Autoconf mailing list >to prepare the forthcoming working group meeting in Prague. > >Cheers >Emmanuel > >_______________________________________________ >manet mailing list >manet@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 07 11:34:02 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOz53-0000TB-Fr; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:33:33 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOz51-0000SQ-52 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:33:31 -0500 Received: from smtp.elet.polimi.it ([131.175.120.12]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOz4w-00051O-IQ for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:33:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.elet.polimi.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A5F15DF1D for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:32:44 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at elet.polimi.it Received: from smtp.elet.polimi.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp1.elet.polimi.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1iz0Oeej0AeI for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:32:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptopcapone (lap-capone.elet.polimi.it [131.175.123.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by smtp.elet.polimi.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D5E15DF13 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:32:43 +0100 (CET) From: "Antonio Capone" To: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:33:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acdg1hEqMbeUeDpGTQOib+v+XhIbfQ== Message-Id: <20070307163243.E5D5E15DF13@smtp.elet.polimi.it> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cd3fc8e909678b38737fc606dec187f0 Subject: [manet] MOBIQUITOUS 2007: Paper registration deadline approaching X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: capone@elet.polimi.it List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this message. Paper registration deadline is approaching! Paper Registration Deadline: March 13, 2007 Paper Submission Deadline: March 20, 2007 News: It is my pleasure to announce that MOBIQUITOUS 2007 is Technical-sponsored by IEEE and IEEE Computer Society. ======================================================================== CALL FOR PAPERS MOBIQUITOUS 2007 The 4th Annual International Conference on Mobile and Ubiquitous Systems: Computing, Networking and Services http://www.mobiquitous.org August 6-10, 2007 - Philadelphia, PA In Cooperation with ACM SIGMOBILE Technical-sponsored by IEEE and IEEE Computer Society Co-sponsored by Create-Net and ICST ======================================================================== The combination of mobile and ubiquitous computing is emerging as a promising new paradigm. Through the use of mobile devices and devices embedded in the surrounding physical environments, users can be provided transparent computing and communication services at all times and in all places. The complexity of providing such services stems from the fact that the communication devices and the objects with which they interact may both be mobile. The implementation of such a paradigm requires advances in wireless network technologies and devices, development of infrastructures supporting cognitive environments, discovery and identification of ubiquitous computing applications and services, and an understanding of the cross-layer interactions between all of these components. The Fourth Annual International Conference on Mobile and Ubiquitous Systems: Computing, Networking and Services (Mobiquitous-07) will provide a forum where practitioners and researchers coming from many areas involved in ubiquitous solutions, design and deployment will be able to interact and exchange experiences needed to build successful ubiquitous systems. Areas addressed by the conference include applications, service-oriented computing, middleware, networking, agents, data management and services, all with special focus on mobility and ubiquitous computing. The conference publications will be considered for inclusion in the following places: IEEE Xplore, SCI/ISI Web of Knowledge, Inspec, EI(Elsevier)/Scopus, DBLP, Directory of Published Proceedings (InterDok), The Collection of Computer Science Bibliographies(CSB), EBSCO, British Library, American Mathematical Society (AMS), Crossref, German National Library of Science and Technology. PAPERS: Technical papers describing original, previously unpublished research, not currently under review by another conference or journal, are solicited. Technical papers clearly identifying how the specific contributions fit to an overall working solution are particularly of interest. Topics include, but are not limited to, the following feature topics as applied to mobile and ubiquitous environments: - Ubiquitous architectures, systems and applications - Wearable computing and personal area networks - Wireless technologies for mobile and ubiquitous (Bluetooth, ZigBee, 802.15.x, WiFi) - Wireless Internet access in ubiquitous systems - Ad hoc and sensor networks support for ubiquitous computing - Reconfigurability and personalization of wireless networks - Wireless/mobile service management and delivery - Security, privacy and social issues of mobile and ubiquitous systems - Service and knowledge discovery, matching and composition mechanisms - Location-based services and tracking in ubiquitous environments - Context- and location-aware applications - Agent technologies in ubiquitous, wearable, and mobile systems - Context modeling, services and frameworks - Toolkits, testbeds, development environments, and languages for ubiquitous computing - Rapid prototyping of ubiquitous applications - Ontologies for mobile and ubiquitous computing - Mobile and ubiquitous data management and processing - Data replication, migration and dissemination in ubiquitous environments - Queries, transactions and workflows in mobile and ubiquitous environments - Multimodal interfaces (speech, video kinetic, tactile) SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS: All paper submissions will be handled electronically (see the conference web page for details). Authors should prepare an Adobe Acrobat PDF version of their full paper. Papers must not exceed 8 pages double column (US Letter size, 8.5 x 11 inches) including text, figures and references. The font size must be at least 10 points. PUBLICATION: All submitted papers will be rigorously reviewed by the international technical program committee. Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings. Papers of particular merit will be proposed for publication in the ACM/Kluwer Mobile Networks and Applications (MONET) journal. WORKSHOPS: Several workshops will be run in conjunction with the conference. The purpose of these workshops is to discuss work in progress and explore opportunities for new research related to mobile and ubiquitous systems: computing, networking and services. Proposals for workshops should be at most four pages in length and should be submitted to Dr. Suman Banerjee (suman at cs.wisc.edu) by February 1, 2007. IMPORTANT DATES: Workshop Proposal Deadline: February 1, 2007 Paper Registration Deadline: March 13, 2007 Paper Submission Deadline: March 20, 2007 Notification of Acceptance: May 4, 2007 Camera-ready Manuscripts due: June 4, 2007 CONFERENCE ORGANIZING COMMITTEE: GENERAL CHAIR: Guohong Cao, The Pennsylvania State University TECHNICAL PROGRAM CHAIR: Robin Kravets, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign TECHNICAL PROGRAM CO-CHAIRS: Anind Dey, Carnegie Mellon University Hui Lei, IBM Research WORKSHOP CHAIR: Suman Banerjee, University of Wisconsin-Madison DEMO CHAIR: Hao Zhu, Florida International University POSTER CHAIR: Al Harris, Universita di Padova Dong Xuan, Ohio State University FINANCE CHAIR: Karen Decker, ICST PUBLICATION CHAIR: Cristina Nita-Rotaru, Purdue university PUBLICITY CHAIR: Antonio Capone, Politecnico di Milano Wensheng Zhang, Iowa State University LOCAL CHAIR: Zhen Jiang, West Chester University of Pennsylvania WEB CHAIR: Hui Song, Penn State University CONFERENCE COORDINATOR Zita Rozsa, ICST STEERING COMMITTEE Imrich Chlamtac, Create-Net (chair) Fausto Giunchiglia, University of Trento Tom La Porta, Penn State University Francesco De Pellegrini, Create-Net Chiara Petrioli, Universita di Roma "La Sapienza" Krishna Sivalingam, University of Maryland Baltimore County Michele Zorzi, Universita di Padova TECHNICAL PROGRAM COMMITTEE: See http://www.mobiquitous.org _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 08 09:59:44 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPK3r-0008GT-3l; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:57:43 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPK3p-0008GO-L3 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:57:41 -0500 Received: from lnx130.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.174.24]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPK3n-00015D-2r for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:57:41 -0500 Received: from ultra02.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (ultra02.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.160.82]) by lnx130.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.13.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l28EvDp3029504 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 15:57:13 +0100 Received: from ultra10.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (ultra10.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.160.111]) by ultra02.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id l28Ev7A21481 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 15:57:08 +0100 (MET) Received: (from jakob@localhost) by ultra10.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.6) id l28Ev8U08246 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 15:57:08 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 15:57:07 +0100 From: Henner Jakob To: manet@ietf.org Message-ID: <20070308145707.GA7141@rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-TUD-HRZ-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TUD-HRZ-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MailScanner-From: jakob@rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ea4ac80f790299f943f0a53be7e1a21a Subject: [manet] Dymo routing information usefulness X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hello, at the moment I am creating testcases to test my update function for the dymo routing table. Doing this, I encountered some problems. In the case, that we have an existing route with a high hopcount, we will not update our table if we receive a route reply with the same sequence number and a much lower hop count. According to the draft, information from route replies is inferior if the sequence number is smaller OR the sequence number is equal AND the route is not broken AND the hopcount is not more than 1 hop greater. So, if we receive a route reply where the sequence numbers are equal, the route is not broken and the hop count is 3 hops smaller than the current route hop count, we should update the routing table. According to the current check, it only updates after receiving a route reply with higher sequence number(ok) or same sequence number(ok) AND hopcount is not more than 1 hop greater (I dont like this, the route shouldn't be longer)) AND route is broken(not ok, we can't improve 'not broken' routes with better information from rreps). With the new idea of not always incrementing the own sequence number after creating a route reply, it is possible, that a node creates a second route reply, with the same sequence number and a much lower hopcount which will not be used by the source node. Some additional thougths on this: - if we have a broken route...a valid route with same hops and same sequence number should be superior. At the moment it is not, but somehow it sounds logic to me. - if route requests for a broken route are received, with same hop and same sequence number, the route table should be updated. maybe the superior check should look like: (Node.SeqNum - Route.SeqNum > 0) OR ((Node.SeqNum == Route.Seqnum) AND ((Node.HopCnt <= Route.HopCnt) AND (Route.Broken == true)) OR ((Route.Broken == false) AND ((Node.HopCnt < Route.HopCnt) AND (RM is RREQ)) OR ((Node.HopCnt < Route.HopCnt + 1 ) AND (RM is RREP)))) Maybe my thougths are flawed, but I hope it helps. regards, Henner Jakob -- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 09 04:22:37 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPbHs-0008RB-2u; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 04:21:20 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPSuf-0005x1-8U; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:24:49 -0500 Received: from s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil ([132.250.83.3]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPSue-0001Jc-2Q; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:24:49 -0500 Received: from smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil [132.250.86.3]) by s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.8) with SMTP id l290OVgu004565; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:24:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from SEXTANT [132.250.92.22]) by smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (SMSSMTP 4.1.12.43) with SMTP id M2007030819243017833 ; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:24:30 -0500 From: "Joe Macker" To: , Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:24:28 -0500 Message-ID: <000901c761e1$4cd82cc0$165cfa84@SEXTANT> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acdh4Uy9g+UzkPLGT1yXD/40esilIg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08e48e05374109708c00c6208b534009 Cc: Subject: [manet] draft-ietf-manet-smf-04 posted X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org All: Just an announcement that draft-ietf-manet-smf-04 posted. We expect to discuss changes, issues, and relevant implementation in Prague. -Joe _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 09 04:22:37 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPbIn-0001YW-HJ; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 04:22:17 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPTmd-0007sQ-JM for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:20:35 -0500 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.170]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPTma-00014e-BV for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:20:35 -0500 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 72so1109454ugd for ; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:20:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GWazHRAXSH3SeEeS5v6KhnAumCiraW0Lq3GfPB6JF+YXgIIjnEF1llZ3jqg4MR9WmJnWRGgibYMywWkRA/Xii6RD2qffy7KtSSXUmlWu8yFPWBzyhE5LvTfGY/O1v1Sw9w9MJgOYU9aMY5pxetQCmxtN45iy7LJm+3zx2fLIn4s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hpbwo2ozqbegr/YtTpuRhRJxwzQl/XIzlmTdQorO6+ndjoT7vtFbHk5GRy//bQA6VTbDz//ht1W6KISqd+yNhF4XmmpCU+v9cUW7lBGwkUxPeCJt0GXGE/B+JMfcAGcrKuSsKIu6yk52RHxUE15ko3iVDzxd7E3At2/aO1Oi7TI= Received: by 10.67.28.4 with SMTP id f4mr8226198ugj.1173403231706; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:20:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.99.12 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:20:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <146563590703081720v3df37ea9n8249fb73693b13fe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:20:31 +0800 From: "chen jiming" To: manet@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <146563590703040357y48a650c6qe048d3cdc2bfc5ad@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <14656359070208From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 09 04:22:37 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPbHs-0008RB-2u; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 04:21:20 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPSuf-0005x1-8U; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:24:49 -0500 Received: from s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil ([132.250.83.3]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPSue-0001Jc-2Q; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:24:49 -0500 Received: from smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil [132.250.86.3]) by s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.8) with SMTP id l290OVgu004565; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:24:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from SEXTANT [132.250.92.22]) by smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (SMSSMTP 4.1.12.43) with SMTP id M2007030819243017833 ; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:24:30 -0500 From: "Joe Macker" To: , Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:24:28 -0500 Message-ID: <000901c761e1$4cd82cc0$165cfa84@SEXTANT> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acdh4Uy9g+UzkPLGT1yXD/40esilIg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08e48e05374109708c00c6208b534009 Cc: Subject: [manet] draft-ietf-manet-smf-04 posted X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org All: Just an announcement that draft-ietf-manet-smf-04 posted. We expect to discuss changes, issues, and relevant implementation in Prague. -Joe _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 09 04:22:37 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPbIn-0001YW-HJ; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 04:22:17 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPTmd-0007sQ-JM for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:20:35 -0500 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.170]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPTma-00014e-BV for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:20:35 -0500 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 72so1109454ugd for ; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:20:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GWazHRAXSH3SeEeS5v6KhnAumCiraW0Lq3GfPB6JF+YXgIIjnEF1llZ3jqg4MR9WmJnWRGgibYMywWkRA/Xii6RD2qffy7KtSSXUmlWu8yFPWBzyhE5LvTfGY/O1v1Sw9w9MJgOYU9aMY5pxetQCmxtN45iy7LJm+3zx2fLIn4s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hpbwo2ozqbegr/YtTpuRhRJxwzQl/XIzlmTdQorO6+ndjoT7vtFbHk5GRy//bQA6VTbDz//ht1W6KISqd+yNhF4XmmpCU+v9cUW7lBGwkUxPeCJt0GXGE/B+JMfcAGcrKuSsKIu6yk52RHxUE15ko3iVDzxd7E3At2/aO1Oi7TI= Received: by 10.67.28.4 with SMTP id f4mr8226198ugj.1173403231706; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:20:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.99.12 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:20:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <146563590703081720v3df37ea9n8249fb73693b13fe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:20:31 +0800 From: "chen jiming" To: manet@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <146563590703040357y48a650c6qe048d3cdc2bfc5ad@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <146563590702080812p72e126c9ve2710283f192dd79@mail.gmail.com> <146563590703040357y48a650c6qe048d3cdc2bfc5ad@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f4c2cf0bccc868e4cc88dace71fb3f44 Subject: [manet] postdoc research position in 2007, zhejiang University X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1440712559==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============1440712559== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_62251_6316711.1173403231659" ------=_Part_62251_6316711.1173403231659 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Contact: yxsun@iipc.zju.edu.cn With the success of project NSFC of China and NSFC of Zhejiang Province, which focus on communication and coordination control of wireless sensor actor networks, 2 postdoctoral Research Fellowships positions are provided at the group of network sensing and control, Zhejiang University, P.R.China. It is better to start at March 2007 or June 2007, the duration is 24 monthes. Generous salary according to the policy of Zhejiang University (around 50000RMB per year, http://hr.zju.edu.cn/postdoctor/news.asp?nid=187), additional research funding 10000RMB~30000RMB per year provided by the collaborative Professor. the PHD from China is Preferred. To apply, you should have a strong background and a very good understanding in one or more of the following areas: (1) wireless sensor networks (2) optimal control (3) network control (4) Wireless communications Candidates with strong publication records are strongly encouraged to apply. For further particulars, informal discussions and inquiry of the posts, please contact: Professor Youxian Sun Director of National Centre for Industrial Automation Research Dept. of Control Science and Engineering. Zhejiang University Zheda Road 38#, Hangzhou, P.R.China Email: yxsun@iipc.zju.edu.cn Web: http://www.nlict.zju.edu.cn/Chinesever/c_sunyx.htm ------=_Part_62251_6316711.1173403231659 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Contact:  yxsun@iipc.zju.edu.cn

With the success of project NSFC of China and NSFC of Zhejiang Province,
which focus on communication and coordination control of wireless sensor
actor networks, 2 postdoctoral Research Fellowships positions are provided
at the group of network sensing and control, Zhejiang University, P.R.China.

It is better to start at March 2007 or June 2007, the duration is 24
monthes.

Generous salary according to the policy of Zhejiang University (around
50000RMB per year, http://hr.zju.edu.cn/postdoctor/news.asp?nid=187),
additional research funding 10000RMB~30000RMB per year provided by the
collaborative Professor.

the PHD from China is Preferred. To apply, you should have a strong
background and a very good understanding in one or more of the following
areas:
(1) wireless sensor networks
(2) optimal control
(3) network control
(4) Wireless communications

Candidates with strong publication records are strongly encouraged to apply.
For further particulars, informal discussions and inquiry of the posts,
please contact:

Professor Youxian Sun

Director of 0812p72e126c9ve2710283f192dd79@mail.gmail.com> <146563590703040357y48a650c6qe048d3cdc2bfc5ad@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f4c2cf0bccc868e4cc88dace71fb3f44 Subject: [manet] postdoc research position in 2007, zhejiang University X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1440712559==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============1440712559== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_62251_6316711.1173403231659" ------=_Part_62251_6316711.1173403231659 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Contact: yxsun@iipc.zju.edu.cn With the success of project NSFC of China and NSFC of Zhejiang Province, which focus on communication and coordination control of wireless sensor actor networks, 2 postdoctoral Research Fellowships positions are provided at the group of network sensing and control, Zhejiang University, P.R.China. It is better to start at March 2007 or June 2007, the duration is 24 monthes. Generous salary according to the policy of Zhejiang University (around 50000RMB per year, http://hr.zju.edu.cn/postdoctor/news.asp?nid=187), additional research funding 10000RMB~30000RMB per year provided by the collaborative Professor. the PHD from China is Preferred. To apply, you should have a strong background and a very good understanding in one or more of the following areas: (1) wireless sensor networks (2) optimal control (3) network control (4) Wireless communications Candidates with strong publication records are strongly encouraged to apply. For further particulars, informal discussions and inquiry of the posts, please contact: Professor Youxian Sun Director of National Centre for Industrial Automation Research Dept. of Control Science and Engineering. Zhejiang University Zheda Road 38#, Hangzhou, P.R.China Email: yxsun@iipc.zju.edu.cn Web: http://www.nlict.zju.edu.cn/Chinesever/c_sunyx.htm ------=_Part_62251_6316711.1173403231659 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Contact:  yxsun@iipc.zju.edu.cn

With the success of project NSFC of China and NSFC of Zhejiang Province,
which focus on communication and coordination control of wireless sensor
actor networks, 2 postdoctoral Research Fellowships positions are provided
at the group of network sensing and control, Zhejiang University, P.R.China.

It is better to start at March 2007 or June 2007, the duration is 24
monthes.

Generous salary according to the policy of Zhejiang University (around
50000RMB per year, http://hr.zju.edu.cn/postdoctor/news.asp?nid=187),
additional research funding 10000RMB~30000RMB per year provided by the
collaborative Professor.

the PHD from China is Preferred. To apply, you should have a strong
background and a very good understanding in one or more of the following
areas:
(1) wireless sensor networks
(2) optimal control
(3) network control
(4) Wireless communications

Candidates with strong publication records are strongly encouraged to apply.
For further particulars, informal discussions and inquiry of the posts,
please contact:

Professor Youxian Sun

Director of National Centre for Industrial Automation Research
Dept. of Control Science and Engineering.
Zhejiang University
Zheda Road 38#, Hangzhou, P.R.China
Email: yxsun@iipc.zju.edu.cn
Web: http://www.nlict.zju.edu.cn/Chinesever/c_sunyx.htm
------=_Part_62251_6316711.1173403231659-- --===============1440712559== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============1440712559==-- National Centre for Industrial Automation Research
Dept. of Control Science and Engineering.
Zhejiang University
Zheda Road 38#, Hangzhou, P.R.China
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------=_Part_62251_6316711.1173403231659-- --===============1440712559== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============1440712559==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 09 04:24:16 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPbKg-0006dx-8s; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 04:24:14 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPUeQ-0003OU-Q9 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:16:10 -0500 Received: from cassius.ee.usyd.edu.au ([129.78.13.49]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPUeO-0002fE-Vp for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:16:10 -0500 Received: from ee.usyd.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cassius.ee.usyd.edu.au (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l292F87I008831 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:15:08 +1100 (EST) From: Guo Qiang Mao Received: from 129.78.27.115 (SquirrelMail authenticated user guoqiang) by www.ee.usyd.edu.au with HTTP; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:15:08 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <2125.129.78.27.115.1173406508.squirrel@www.ee.usyd.edu.au> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:15:08 +1100 (EST) To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.7) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-ElectricalEngineering-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ElectricalEngineering-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ElectricalEngineering-MailScanner-From: guoqiang@ee.usyd.edu.au Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by cassius.ee.usyd.edu.au id l292F87I008831 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b8f3559805f7873076212d6f63ee803e Subject: [manet] ACM SenSys 2007: Call for Papers & Call for Workshop Proposals X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org [Our apologies if you receive multiple copies of this message] =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ACM SenSys 2007: Call for Papers & Call for Workshop Proposals The 5th ACM Conference on Embedded Networked Sensor Systems November 6-9, 2007 Sydney, Australia http://sensys.acm.org/2007/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Sponsored by ACM SIGCOMM, SIGMOBILE, SIGARCH, SIGOPS, SIGMETRICS and SIGB= ED. The 5th ACM Conference on Embedded Networked Sensor Systems (SenSys) is a highly selective, single-track forum for the presentation of research results on systems issues in the area of embedded, networked sensors. Distributed systems based on networked sensors and actuators with embedde= d computation capabilities enable an instrumentation of the physical world at an unprecedented scale and density, thus enabling a new generation of monitoring and control applications. This conference provides an ideal venue to address the research challenges facing the design, deployment, use, and fundamental limits of these systems. Sensor networks require contributions from many fields, from wireless communication and networking, embedded systems and hardware, distributed systems, data management, and applications, so we welcome cross-disciplinary work. This year we particularly encourage papers that extend the scope of the conference beyond wireless mote-class sensor networks and we seek contributions from a broad range of sensing-related fields, such as actuator networks, RFID applications, mobile ad-hoc networks, camera networks, and others. We seek technical papers describing original, previously unpublished research results. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to, the following: =95 Sensor network architecture and protocols =95 Applications =95 Rich sensor systems leveraging RFID, mobile devices (e.g., cell phone= s), cameras, robotics, etc. =95 Analysis of real-world systems and fundamental limits =95 Sensor network planning, provisioning, calibration and deployment =95 Deployment experience and testbeds =95 Experimental methodology, including measurement, simulation, and=20 emulation infrastructure =95 Integration with back-end systems such as web-based information syste= ms, process control, and enterprise software =95 Programming methodology =95 Operating systems =95 Sensor network algorithms such as localization, routing, time synchronization, clustering, topology control, and coverage control algorithms =95 Failure resilience and fault isolation =95 Energy management =95 Data, information, and signal processing =95 Data storage and management =95 Distributed actuation and control =95 Security and privacy Important dates: Paper Registration and Abstract: April 10, 2007, midnight US Eastern Time Paper Submission Deadline: April 17, 2007, midnight US Eastern Time Notification of Paper Acceptance: July 2, 2007 Camera Ready Paper Copy: August 30, 2007 All deadlines are firm; we will not honor extensions. Papers must be original, unpublished work not under consideration elsewhere. All submissions will be handled electronically and must be in PDF format. Papers must not exceed 14 pages (US "Letter" size, 8.5 x 11 inches) including all material (text, figures and references). The font size must be at least 10 points. Papers should be in two-column format with no more than 59 lines of text per column and at least 0.75" margins on all sides. All submitted papers will be peer-reviewed. The review process is double-blind and hence, all submissions must be anonymized. Selected papers of particular merit will be proposed for publication in the ACM Transactions on Sensor Networks. For submission details, see the conference web site. Demos: Demonstrations showing innovative research and applications are solicited. SenSys is very interested in demonstrations of technology, platforms, and applications of sensor systems. Abstracts of accepted demo= s will be published in the SenSys conference proceedings. Submissions from both industry and academia are encouraged. For submission details, see th= e conference web site. A call for demos with submission dates, etc., will b= e posted at a later point. Posters: Posters showing exciting early work on sensor systems are solicited. Areas of interest are the same as those listed in the technica= l call for papers. While the poster need not describe completed work, it should report on research for which at least preliminary results are available. For submission details, see the conference web site. A call fo= r posters with submission dates, etc., will be posted at a later point. Organization: General Chair: Sanjay Jha (U. New South Wales) Program Co-Chairs: Phillip B. Gibbons (Intel Research), Akos Ledeczi (Vanderbilt) Poster Co-Chairs: Nirupama Bulusu (Portland State), Rachel Cardell-Oliver (U. Western Australia) Demo Co-Chairs: Suman Nath (Microsoft Research), Max Ott (NICTA, Australi= a) Workshop Chair: Andreas Savvides (Yale) Student Award Chair: Alberto Cerpa, UC Merced Local Arrangements Chairs: Subhash Challa (U. Technology, Sydney), Salil Kanhere, (U. New South Wales) Publicity Co-Chairs: Rajeev Shorey (GM Research, India), Guoqiang Mao (U. Sydney) Web Chair: Wen Hu (CSIRO, Australia) Registration Chair: Ren Liu (CSIRO, Australia) Publications Chair: Adam Dunkels, SICS Finance Chair: Chun Tung Chou (U. New South Wales) Steering Committee Chair: John Heidemann (USC) Program Committee: Tarek Abdelzaher (UIUC), Gaetano Borriello (U. Washington), Andrew Campbell (Dartmouth), Peter Corke (CSIRO, Australia), Richard Han (U. Colorado), Tien He (U. Minnesota), John Heidemann (USC), Ted Herman (Iowa), Polly Huang (National Taiwan U.), Brad Karp (U. Colleg= e London), Phil Levis (Stanford), Jie Liu (Microsoft Research), Chenyang Lu (Washington U. in St. Louis), Sam Madden (MIT), Miklos Maroti (U. Szeged, Hungary), Margaret Martonosi (Princeton), Lama Nachman (Intel Research), Kay R=F6mer (ETH Zurich), Mani Srivastava (UCLA), John Stankovic (U. Virginia), Subhash Suri (UCSB), Thiemo Voigt (SICS, Sweden) Sponsors: Academic sponsors: SIGCOMM, SIGMOBILE, SIGARCH, SIGOPS, SIGMETRICS, SIGBE= D Corporate sponsors: University of New South Wales, CSIRO, National ICT Australia, Arch Rock =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Call for Workshop Proposals SenSys 2007: 5th ACM Conference on Networked Sensor Systems Sydney, Australia 6-9 November 2007 http://sensys.acm.org/2007/Home.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D WHAT TO SUBMIT: We solicit workshop proposals on new and emerging topics in the general area of mobile and wireless sensor systems as well as thei= r corresponding services, and applications. Workshops will be Full Day on Monday, November 6, 2007. The ideal proposal should focus on a specific area, be of current interest, and be able to attract a number of high-quality submissions. The proposal should be no longer than a few pages and should clearly identify the theme of the workshop, specify topi= c areas of interest to define the scope, and suggest potential program chairs and program committee members. HOW TO SUBMIT: Please send workshop proposals in PDF format by March 30, 2007, 12:00 midnight EST, to the workshop chair, Andreas Savvides [andreas.savvides@yale.edu] IMPORTANT DATES: March 30, 2007: Proposal submission deadline November 6-9, 2007: Conference Days November 6, 2007: Full Day Workshops, ACM SenSys 2007 We look forward to your submissions, Workshop Chair Andreas Savvides, Yale University General Chair Sanjay Jha, University of New South Wales Yours sincerely, Guoqiang Guoqiang Mao, PhD Senior Lecturer, School of Electrical and Information Engineering The University of Sydney, Tel: +61 2 93512962 Fax: +61 2 93513847 Homepage: http://www.ee.usyd.edu.au/~guoqiang _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 09 05:50:21 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPcfT-0001yf-R4; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 05:49:47 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPcfP-0001sc-RA; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 05:49:43 -0500 Received: from mail119.messagelabs.com ([216.82.241.179]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPcfN-0002jj-Hj; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 05:49:43 -0500 X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-119.messagelabs.com!1173437380!11362623!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7.1; banners=.,-,- X-Originating-IP: [129.188.136.8] Received: (qmail 26736 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2007 10:49:40 -0000 Received: from motgate8.mot.com (HELO motgate8.mot.com) (129.188.136.8) by server-5.tower-119.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 9 Mar 2007 10:49:40 -0000 Received: from il06exr04.mot.com (il06exr04.mot.com [129.188.137.134]) by motgate8.mot.com (8.12.11/Motorola) with ESMTP id l29Ana5Z004240; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 03:49:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.161.201.117] (zfr01-2117.crm.mot.com [10.161.201.117]) by il06exr04.mot.com (8.13.1/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l29AnYeZ003031; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 04:49:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <45F13BB9.6060807@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:49:29 +0100 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Emmanuel Baccelli References: <7.0.1.0.0.20070307085104.040bf850@dte.uma.es> <45EEBC36.6060001@inria.fr> In-Reply-To: <45EEBC36.6060001@inria.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e8a67952aa972b528dd04570d58ad8fe Cc: autoconf@ietf.org, manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf Problem Statement X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Emmanuel Baccelli wrote: > Hi all, > > the MANET autoconf problem statement has been updated. > > http://manetautoconf.online.fr/Blog/wp-content/draft-baccelli-autoconf-problem-statement-02.txt > > > > > Thourough reviewing from you is now needed in order to identify: > > - what is missing, and needs to be included? - what is in excess, and > needs to be removed? - what is in the document, but is not entirely > in the desired shape? - what is well addressed in the document? Hi Emmanuel, This is a very generous question and please let me take advantage of its opportunities. I was wondering whether draft misses some aspects. This draft: > Standard automatic IPv6 address/prefix assignment solutions [5], [3] > [4] do not work "as-is" on MANETs due to ad hoc networks' unique > characteristics [2], and new mechanisms are therefore needed. While I agree the widespread address assignment solutions rfc2462 stateless, rfc3315 DHCP and rfc2461 ND are not suited for MANET environments, I think that only some existing _address_ assignment mechanisms are listed while existing _prefix_ assignment mechanisms are not listed. DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation is such a mechanism RFC3633. There exist other prefix assignment mechanisms that are currently in draft shape, that could be relevant: -Prefix Delegation for NEMOv6 Mobile Routers (based on Mobile IPv6 allocation or on DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation: 2 drafts). -ICMPv6 Redirect is not quite a prefix assignment, but its effects are the inclusion in the routing table of a /128 next-hop. -two personal proposal as extension to ND to assign prefixes. drafts, no WG no BoF - see manemo@mobileip.jp. -there may be others if one looks harder. Address (not prefix) assignment is a much wider landscape with more drafts/rfcs that are less widespread use and that are not DHCP nor SLAAC (Stateless Address Auto Config), see Fast Mobile IPv6 EXPERIMENTAL RFC and Fast Mobile IPv4 WG item in MIP4 WG. Auto-generation of addresses (from EUI64 IEEE-802, or from other link's ID, or from other secret material - CGA, HBA) exist as well, in various RFC or draft form. That said, I will post separately on other aspects. Thanks, Alex ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 09 07:25:22 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPe88-0003Tc-8u; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 07:23:28 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPe86-0003TS-J3; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 07:23:26 -0500 Received: from mail153.messagelabs.com ([216.82.253.51]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPe83-0002Vq-68; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 07:23:26 -0500 X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-153.messagelabs.com!1173443001!3013430!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7.1; banners=.,-,- X-Originating-IP: [129.188.136.8] Received: (qmail 20329 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2007 12:23:21 -0000 Received: from motgate8.mot.com (HELO motgate8.mot.com) (129.188.136.8) by server-15.tower-153.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 9 Mar 2007 12:23:21 -0000 Received: from il06exr03.mot.com (il06exr03.mot.com [129.188.137.133]) by motgate8.mot.com (8.12.11/Motorola) with ESMTP id l29CNLKD023367; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 05:23:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.161.201.117] (zfr01-2117.crm.mot.com [10.161.201.117]) by il06exr03.mot.com (8.13.1/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l29CNKVd025849; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 06:23:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <45F151B2.3030201@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:23:14 +0100 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Emmanuel Baccelli References: <7.0.1.0.0.20070307085104.040bf850@dte.uma.es> <45EEBC36.6060001@inria.fr> In-Reply-To: <45EEBC36.6060001@inria.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 82c9bddb247d9ba4471160a9a865a5f3 Cc: autoconf@ietf.org, manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf Problem Statement X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Emmanuel Baccelli wrote: > Hi all, > > the MANET autoconf problem statement has been updated. > > http://manetautoconf.online.fr/Blog/wp-content/draft-baccelli-autoconf-problem-statement-02.txt > > > > Thourough reviewing from you is now needed in order to identify: > > - what is missing, and needs to be included? - what is in excess, and > needs to be removed? - what is in the document, but is not entirely > in the desired shape? - what is well addressed in the document? Do you think autoconf prefix autoconfiguration problem could accommodate a problem whereby two Mobile Routers serving Local Fixed Nodes need to exchange routing table entries? The scenario is a scene where two vehicles arrives and stay put for a while. In each vehicle there's a fixed Mobile Router. EAch additional computer is fixed in each vehicle and is called a Local Fixed Node (eg a laptop, or car engine control, or pda - all fixed in each vehicle). Each Mobile Router has an egress interface, whose radio is receivable from outside the vehicle. The radio in the vehicle is not visible outside, especially when all doors are shut close. There's no Internet connectivity at this scene, no WMAN infrastructure, all communication is built locally. With this setting, although one LFN in one vehicle could talk to the other LFN in another vehicle (via the external inter-vehicular radio), the two MRs currently have no means to exchange routing information (other than OSPF or DHCP, which require pre-configuration of the other peer prior to arriving at the scene). What do you think about this problem? Could it be accommodated somewhere in the AUTOCONF Problem Statement draft? The solutions that _may_ be pertinent to this problem are Neighbour Discovery extensions, specifically putting prefixes in RA or in NA. There are about two drafts in this space, I can refer them if interest is. Is an AUTOCONF or MANET existing solution draft addressing this problem already? Thanks in advance, Alex ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 09 08:12:08 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPesm-0004uN-Sk; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 08:11:40 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPesk-0004t0-2D; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 08:11:38 -0500 Received: from mail119.messagelabs.com ([216.82.241.179]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPese-0004nj-VQ; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 08:11:38 -0500 X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-119.messagelabs.com!1173445890!10838210!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7.1; banners=.,-,- X-Originating-IP: [129.188.136.8] Received: (qmail 9437 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2007 13:11:30 -0000 Received: from motgate8.mot.com (HELO motgate8.mot.com) (129.188.136.8) by server-15.tower-119.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 9 Mar 2007 13:11:30 -0000 Received: from il06exr01.mot.com (il06exr01.mot.com [129.188.137.131]) by motgate8.mot.com (8.12.11/Motorola) with ESMTP id l29DBT0k004019; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 06:11:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.161.201.117] (zfr01-2117.crm.mot.com [10.161.201.117]) by il06exr01.mot.com (8.13.5/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l29DBSKV010993; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 07:11:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <45F15CFA.1070605@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:11:22 +0100 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jean Lorchat References: <7.0.1.0.0.20070307085104.040bf850@dte.uma.es> <45EEBC36.6060001@inria.fr> <45F151B2.3030201@gmail.com> <45F15983.9050009@sfc.wide.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: <45F15983.9050009@sfc.wide.ad.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 4b800b1eab964a31702fa68f1ff0e955 Cc: autoconf@ietf.org, Alexandru Petrescu , manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf Problem Statement X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hi Jean, thanks for message, please allow me to ask a few details that would save me documented reading. Jean Lorchat wrote: > Hi Alex, > >> Each Mobile Router has an egress interface, whose radio is >> receivable from outside the vehicle. The radio in the vehicle is >> not visible outside, especially when all doors are shut close. > > Why do you mention this in-vehicle radio ? Can it get involved in the > scenario ? or did you want to describe the ingress interface ? Right, I just wanted to describe the ingress interface. The fact that the in-vehicle interface is wireless does not mean (in this scenario) that any device is moving out/in the vehicle. Not for this scenario. >> There's no Internet connectivity at this scene, no WMAN >> infrastructure, all communication is built locally. >> >> With this setting, although one LFN in one vehicle could talk to >> the other LFN in another vehicle (via the external inter-vehicular >> radio), the two MRs currently have no means to exchange routing >> information (other than OSPF or DHCP, which require >> pre-configuration of the other peer prior to arriving at the >> scene). > > If MANET is running on the (egress) radio interface, then OLSRv2 can > solve the problem (by using the "Local Attached Network Set", and > putting information about these prefixes in the periodic TC messages. > > What's the dst address of periodic TC messages? Is that a multicast address? A unicast address? If unicast - then somehow the router should be pre-configured with the address of the destination, no? If multicast - then somehow the receiving router must express interest in this multicast group before receiving a TC from another router, no? > You even don't have to solicit the prefix information). I think sometimes it's useful to solicit for a TC, especially when one needs a quick response and the sender's timer is too long. >> The solutions that _may_ be pertinent to this problem are Neighbour >> Discovery extensions, specifically putting prefixes in RA or in >> NA. There are about two drafts in this space, I can refer them if >> interest is. >> >> Is an AUTOCONF or MANET existing solution draft addressing this >> problem already? > > At least OLSRv2 does. OLSR(v1) has support for "Host Network > Attachment" but I think they only accomodate IPv4 prefixes. Can OLSRv2 on one MR realize somehow that all other Mobile Routers have left the scene and no longer send TC messages when it's alone? Is there a form of unreachability detection or test or similar mechanism? Thanks, Alex ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 09 09:22:21 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPfxq-0006kV-7O; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 09:20:58 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPfxo-0006j8-2K; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 09:20:56 -0500 Received: from discorde.inria.fr ([192.93.2.38]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPfxm-00028q-Kw; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 09:20:56 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ras75-3-82-226-221-97.fbx.proxad.net [82.226.221.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by discorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l29EKrHl011233 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 9 Mar 2007 15:20:53 +0100 Message-ID: <45F16D43.7010501@inria.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:20:51 +0100 From: Emmanuel Baccelli User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: autoconf@ietf.org References: <7.0.1.0.0.20070307085104.040bf850@dte.uma.es> <45EEBC36.6060001@inria.fr> <45F151B2.3030201@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <45F151B2.3030201@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Miltered: at discorde with ID 45F16D45.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by discorde.inria.fr id l29EKrHl011233 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: fb6060cb60c0cea16e3f7219e40a0a81 Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf Problem Statement X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Alex, Alexandru Petrescu a =E9crit : > Emmanuel Baccelli wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> the MANET autoconf problem statement has been updated. >> >> http://manetautoconf.online.fr/Blog/wp-content/draft-baccelli-autoconf= -problem-statement-02.txt=20 >> >> >> >> >> Thourough reviewing from you is now needed in order to identify: >> >> - what is missing, and needs to be included? - what is in excess, and >> needs to be removed? - what is in the document, but is not entirely >> in the desired shape? - what is well addressed in the document? >=20 > Do you think autoconf prefix autoconfiguration problem could accommodat= e > a problem whereby two Mobile Routers serving Local Fixed Nodes need to > exchange routing table entries? >=20 As of yet, Autoconf is focussing on IPv6 address and prefix=20 configuration. So other types of configuration is out of scope for now. Emmanuel > The scenario is a scene where two vehicles arrives and stay put for a > while. In each vehicle there's a fixed Mobile Router. EAch additional > computer is fixed in each vehicle and is called a Local Fixed Node (eg = a > laptop, or car engine control, or pda - all fixed in each vehicle). >=20 > Each Mobile Router has an egress interface, whose radio is receivable > from outside the vehicle. The radio in the vehicle is not visible > outside, especially when all doors are shut close. >=20 > There's no Internet connectivity at this scene, no WMAN infrastructure, > all communication is built locally. >=20 > With this setting, although one LFN in one vehicle could talk to the > other LFN in another vehicle (via the external inter-vehicular radio), > the two MRs currently have no means to exchange routing information > (other than OSPF or DHCP, which require pre-configuration of the other > peer prior to arriving at the scene). >=20 > What do you think about this problem? Could it be accommodated > somewhere in the AUTOCONF Problem Statement draft? >=20 > The solutions that _may_ be pertinent to this problem are Neighbour > Discovery extensions, specifically putting prefixes in RA or in NA. > There are about two drafts in this space, I can refer them if interest = is. >=20 > Is an AUTOCONF or MANET existing solution draft addressing this problem > already? >=20 > Thanks in advance, >=20 > Alex >=20 >=20 > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email=20 > ______________________________________________________________________ >=20 >=20 _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 09 09:41:44 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPgHJ-0005OL-B6; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 09:41:05 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPgHI-0005NY-3B; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 09:41:04 -0500 Received: from mail153.messagelabs.com ([216.82.253.51]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HPgHF-000538-N0; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 09:41:04 -0500 X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-153.messagelabs.com!1173451259!1027685!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7.1; banners=.,-,- X-Originating-IP: [129.188.136.10] Received: (qmail 29160 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2007 14:41:00 -0000 Received: from motgate6.mot.com (HELO motgate.mot.com) (129.188.136.10) by server-2.tower-153.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 9 Mar 2007 14:41:00 -0000 Received: from il06exr04.mot.com (il06exr04.mot.com [129.188.137.134]) by motgate.mot.com (8.12.11/Motorola) with ESMTP id l29EeptP016737; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 07:40:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.161.201.117] (zfr01-2117.crm.mot.com [10.161.201.117]) by il06exr04.mot.com (8.13.1/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l29Ee1ZD024586; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:40:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <45F171BB.204@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:39:55 +0100 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Emmanuel Baccelli References: <7.0.1.0.0.20070307085104.040bf850@dte.uma.es> <45EEBC36.6060001@inria.fr> <45F151B2.3030201@gmail.com> <45F16D43.7010501@inria.fr> In-Reply-To: <45F16D43.7010501@inria.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 82c9bddb247d9ba4471160a9a865a5f3 Cc: autoconf@ietf.org, manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf Problem Statement X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Emmanuel Baccelli wrote: > Alex, > > > Alexandru Petrescu a écrit : >> Emmanuel Baccelli wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> the MANET autoconf problem statement has been updated. >>> >>> http://manetautoconf.online.fr/Blog/wp-content/draft-baccelli-autoconf-problem-statement-02.txt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thourough reviewing from you is now needed in order to identify: >>> >>> - what is missing, and needs to be included? - what is in excess, and >>> needs to be removed? - what is in the document, but is not entirely >>> in the desired shape? - what is well addressed in the document? >> >> Do you think autoconf prefix autoconfiguration problem could accommodate >> a problem whereby two Mobile Routers serving Local Fixed Nodes need to >> exchange routing table entries? >> > > As of yet, Autoconf is focussing on IPv6 address and prefix > configuration. So other types of configuration is out of scope for now. I see, thanks for the info. When you say 'configuration', you mean the means by which a node assigns an address (or a prefix) for itself? For example DHCP and SLAAC would be address configuration mechanisms. Is this kind of address assignment that you refer to when you say AUTOCONF is focusing on IPv6 address and prefix configuration? And is it that prefixes exchanged by a protocol (and to be installed in one's routing table), thus not _assigned_ to a node, like OSPF would do, are out of scope in AUTOCONF? Thanks, Alex PS: Regardless of my problem proposal where prefixes are exchanged between routers (and not assigned to a router), I think self-derivation of an address (like IPv6 EUI64 or other link-layers and CGA/HBA) and DHCP prefix delegation should be mentioned in the problement statement draft because they're all means of assigning addresses and prefixes to nodes. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. 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Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Sat Mar 10 21:24:57 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQDiF-0005yq-SF; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 21:23:07 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQDiD-0005s9-KW for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 21:23:05 -0500 Received: from [2001:388:7094:180:2c0:9fff:fe3b:291] (helo=webmail-2.ucs.uwa.edu.au) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQDiB-0007P8-Kx for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 21:23:05 -0500 Received: from www-data by webmail-2.ucs.uwa.edu.au with local (Exim 4.50) id 1HQDhq-0003lE-NZ for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:22:42 +0900 Received: from 130.95.65.5 (130.95.65.5 [130.95.65.5]) by webmail-2.ucs.uwa.edu.au (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:22:42 +0900 Message-ID: <20070311112242.66oleyl0g1i8ocoo@webmail-2.ucs.uwa.edu.au> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:22:42 +0900 From: "T.W. Martin Ip" To: IETF MANET Mailing list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Scan-Signature: 798b2e660f1819ae38035ac1d8d5e3ab Subject: [manet] Documentation for AODV routing protocol in ns2 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hello all, This is the first time I post a message in this mailing list. Nice to meet you all! I am researching for the AODV routing protocol. And I am trying to understand the AODV protocol source code that comes with ns2. Do anyone know where I could find a documentation that explains the implementation of this particular AODV protocol? I will be working on a project on improving the problems of routing control overheads in AODV. Thanks in advance. Regards, Martin --- T.W. Martin Ip, School of Computer Science and Software Engineering M002 The University of Western Australia 35 Stirling Highway, CRAWLEY 6009, Western Australia Ph: +618-64882281; Fax: +618-64881089 --- _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 12 04:59:20 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQgKb-0001CC-7U; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:56:37 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQgKZ-0001C1-H1 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:56:35 -0400 Received: from web60718.mail.yahoo.com ([209.73.178.206]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQgKX-0003pI-TJ for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:56:35 -0400 Received: (qmail 40107 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Mar 2007 08:56:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=F7RFQi7EUnGZ9n1ZQAv+dVyEdt2yc9wmqj7jVZbf2HpuTHKNhJzuTD9wC5dG+WztDWUbGaAvyogFh7X8Xq312wwZEnS1KwPngMFr5dnFsxXqTC/WtubmdJKMbXSqdgYdbSzPkxXlOAyhuagaVO4IWLBjevxcVaNQ8HG+zWPtxHM=; X-YMail-OSG: cyRAwLEVM1nhVBZ3di5YQ0fewwA4uN6V1jH3DCfUOa1QGPj2wFCJjpp8RQVrBb9zJSvvlChJcE.ZycUzLQu5JhoZ33Y_SKNu5wN8588xRGeHaz9XN2y7RqvaPMEpHJE79lL4I2RmTI.34RIss51ogaDLVWw- Received: from [122.169.2.196] by web60718.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:56:31 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:56:31 -0700 (PDT) From: nawras zahereldeen Subject: [manet] Help on ARAN routing protocol and ns2 To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <701554.39706.qm@web60718.mail.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0bc60ec82efc80c84b8d02f4b0e4de22 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1886244434==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============1886244434== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1162776327-1173689791=:39706" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --0-1162776327-1173689791=:39706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello everyone, I am doing my research on ARAN routing protocol for Ad hoc Networks. And I am trying to understand the ARAN protocol. is there anyone knows this protocol, and ready to help me to get the source code and its simulations as well as the documentation that explain it, and the implementation of this particular ARAN protocol? because my project is: How to improve the security issue with ARAN protocol. Thanks in advance. Regards, Nawras. --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. --0-1162776327-1173689791=:39706 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hello everyone,

I am doing my research on ARAN routing protocol for Ad hoc Networks. And I am 
trying to understand the ARAN protocol. is there anyone knows this protocol, and ready to help me to get the source code and its simulations as well as the documentation that explain it, and the implementation of this particular ARAN protocol? because my project is: How to improve the security issue with ARAN protocol.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Nawras.

Don't pick lemons.
See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! 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CHINACOM 2007 Call For Papers
August 22-24, 2007, Shanghai, China - http://www.chinacom.org

Co-Sponsors:
Create-Net
ICST

Technical Sponsors:
IEEE
IEEE MTT-S
IEEE CAS
IEEE CVTC
Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications.

IMPORTANT DATES
Submission:     March 31st, 2007
Notification:    May 31st, 2007
Camera Ready:    June 30th, 2007
Conference:    August, 22-24, 2007

All ACCEPTED and PRESENTED papers will be included in the CHINACOM 2007= =20 Conference Proceedings and made available in IEEExplore Digital Library=20 and then be indexed by Engineering Information (EI).
Selected papers from CHINACOM2007 will be considered for Computer=20 Networks and Ad Hoc Networks. Relevant papers will also be considered=20 for a special issue on Advanced in Wireless Mesh Networks, ACM/Springer=20 Mobile Networks and Applications (MONET).

CHINACOM is being positioned as the premier international annual=20 conference for the presentation of original and fundamental research=20 advances in the field of Communications, Networks, and Internet=20 Applications. The conference will consist of Technical Symposia and=20 Workshops.

PAPERS:
The conference invites original technical papers that were not=20 previously published and are not currently under review for publication=20 elsewhere.
Authors are invited to submit papers to the following symposia:

- Frontiers on Communications and Networking
- Optical Communications and Networking
- Wireless Communications and Networking
- Advances in Internet
- Communication Theory and Signal Processing for Communications
- Networking Security and Information Assurance


PANELS/WORKSHOPS:
Proposals for panels/workshops are solicited. Potential chairs are=20 requested to submit a proposal to one of the panel/workshop Chairs by=20 March 15th, 2007 for review (leizd@i2r.a-star.edu.sg;=20 bernard.uguen@univ-rennes1.fr;
haifeng.wang@nokia.com; wasim.malik@eng.ox.ac.uk).

SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS:
Conference language is English. Prospective authors are encouraged to= =20 submit a PDF version of the full paper in IEEE conference proceedings=20 format, which are limited to 5 two-column pages in a 10-points font. All=20 paper submissions will be handled electronically. Please submit the=20 paper through the COCUS System,http://cocus.info. Visit the conference=20 website
http://www.chinacom.org/submission.shtml for detailed sub= mission=20 requirements and procedures.


STUDENT TRAVEL GRANTS:
Applications are invited from qualified graduate students. Up to 10=20 awards are expected.


GENERAL CO-CHAIRS
Wenjun Zhang, Vice President, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Sherman Shen, University of Waterloo

GENERAL Vice CO-CHAIRS
Jianping Chen, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Honggang Zhang, Create-Net

TPC CO-CHAIRS
Andreas F. Molisch, MERL/Lund University
Xiaodong Wang, Columbia University
Matti Latva-aho,University of Oulu

SYMPOSIUM CO-CHAIRS

Zhihua Guo, Lenovo
Stefan Mangold, Swisscom Innovations
Jun Zheng, University of Ottawa

Indra Widjaja, Bell Labs, Alcatel-Lucent
Yikai Su, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Pin-Han Ho, University of Waterloo

Petri Mahonen, RWTH Aachen University
Chonggang Wang, University of Arkansas
Wenye Wang, North Carolina State University

Minglu Li, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Junzhong Gu, East China Normal University
Jie Wu, Florida Atlantic University

Thomas Kaiser, Leibniz University of Hannover
Zongxin Wang, Fudan University
Mischa Dohler, France Telecom

Zhenfu Cao, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Peter Stavroulakis, Technical University of Crete
Radha Poovendran, University of Washington


STEERING COMMITTEE
Imrich Chlamtac, Create-Net
Yabin Ye, Create-Net
Zheng Zhou, BUPT
Bo Li, HKUST

WORKSHOPS CO-CHAIRS
Haifeng Wang, Nokia
Wasim Q. Malik, Oxford University

PANELS CO-CHAIRS
Zhongding Lei, I2R
Bernard Uguen, Universit=E9 de Rennes 1

PUBLICITY CO-CHAIRS
Marina Petrova, RWTH Aachen University
Teck Yoong Chai, I2R

PUBLICATION CHAIR
Chunsheng Xin, Norfolk State University
Bin Wang, Wright State University

LOCAL ARRANGEMENT CO-CHAIRS
Xiaokang Yang, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Shenghong Li, Shanghai Jiao Tong University
Xinbing Wang, Shanghai Jiao Tong University

INTERN. ARRANGEMENT CHAIR
Zsuzsi Kaszab, ICST

INTERNATIONAL ADVISORY
COMMITTEE
Ian Akyildiz, Georgia Institute of Technology
Yeheskel (Zeke) Bar-Ness, NJIT
Bob Brodersen, UC Berkeley
Junliang Chen, BUPT
Roberto Coisson, Italian Embassy in China
Jon Crowcroft, University of Cambridge
Leonard Kleinrock, UCLA
Hisashi Kobayashi, Princeton University
Byeong Gi Lee, Seoul National University
Jintong Lin, BUPT
Guangnan Ni, Inst. of Computing Technology
Hequan Wu, Chinese Academy of Engineering
Ya-Qin Zhang, Microsoft

------=_Part_20781_31549600.1173692553280-- --===============1494293760== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============1494293760==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 12 05:56:27 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQhES-0005Jn-41; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:54:20 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQhEQ-0005J6-WB; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:54:19 -0400 Received: from smtp1.bae.co.uk ([20.133.0.11]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQhEP-0000lq-Kn; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:54:18 -0400 Received: from smtpc.greenlnk.net (smtpc.greenlnk.net [10.15.160.220]) by smtp1.bae.co.uk (Switch-3.1.10/Switch-3.1.10) with ESMTP id l2C9s3Hq029641; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:54:03 GMT Received: from glkas0002.GREENLNK.NET (glkas0002.greenlnk.net [10.15.184.52]) by smtpc.greenlnk.net (Switch-3.1.9/Switch-3.1.9) with ESMTP id l2C9s1Cd009784; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:54:01 GMT Received: from glkms0002.GREENLNK.NET ([10.15.184.2]) by glkas0002.GREENLNK.NET with InterScan Message Security Suite; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:54:06 -0000 Received: from glkms2122.GREENLNK.NET ([10.15.184.26]) by glkms0002.GREENLNK.NET with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:54:06 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [manet] Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf Problem Statement Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:54:05 -0000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [manet] Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf Problem Statement Thread-Index: AcdiTI+Jk+H6Zu9zQsCHpapZ9KG/+ACPoOug From: "Dearlove, Christopher \(UK\)" To: "Alexandru Petrescu" , "Jean Lorchat" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2007 09:54:06.0146 (UTC) FILETIME=[5F5CBA20:01C7648C] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b19722fc8d3865b147c75ae2495625f2 Cc: autoconf@ietf.org, Thomas Clausen , manet@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org > Can OLSRv2 on one MR realize somehow that all other Mobile Routers have > left the scene and no longer send TC messages when it's alone? Is there > a form of unreachability detection or test or similar mechanism? Typically TC messages (containing advertised neighbours) will cease when there are no neighbours to advertise. (Two caveats to that. First there may be a short period advertising an empty list, and second you may have neighbours, but no advertised neighbours, in which case they will cease earlier.) So far so good. However if sending TC messages solely to advertise a network conection, then currently there isn't actually an end condition to that specified. It would be straightforward however to add a condition that a node MAY or SHOULD (more thought needed on which is better, I can see arguments both ways) stop sending TC messages when (or shortly after) it recognises that it has no neighbours (probably no symmetric 1-hop neighbours, but again needs thought). 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OLSRv1 (RFC 3626) has a "for IPv6 replace IPv4 addresses by IPv6 addresses" note. Interpreted strictly it actually means that IPv6 HNA addresses have 128 bit address masks. At least some implementers have replaced this by a 32 bit prefix length (or 8 bits plus 24 bits reserved) as OLSRv1 is 32 bit word aligned, but it means there is a compatibility issue. ******************************************************************** This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or distribute its contents to any other person. ******************************************************************** _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 12 07:11:33 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQiPy-00029D-2c; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:10:18 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQiPw-00022M-JJ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:10:16 -0400 Received: from mailout1.samsung.com ([203.254.224.24]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQiPv-0002Pw-5d; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:10:16 -0400 Received: from ep_mmp2 (mailout1.samsung.com [203.254.224.24]) by mailout1.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JES00BRWF0XD6@mailout1.samsung.com>; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:10:09 +0900 (KST) Received: from Shubhranshu ([107.108.4.124]) by mmp2.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0JES000X2F0VU8@mmp2.samsung.com>; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:10:09 +0900 (KST) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:45:06 +0530 From: Shubhranshu To: Alexandru Petrescu Message-id: <020201c76497$b1a5f070$7c046c6b@sisodomain.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=response; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <7.0.1.0.0.20070307085104.040bf850@dte.uma.es> <45EEBC36.6060001@inria.fr> <45F13BB9.6060807@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 769a46790fb42fbb0b0cc700c82f7081 Cc: autoconf@ietf.org, manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Re: [Autoconf] Autoconf Problem Statement X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Alex, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandru Petrescu" > > I was wondering whether draft misses some aspects. > > While I agree the widespread address assignment solutions rfc2462 > stateless, rfc3315 DHCP and rfc2461 ND are not suited for MANET > environments, I think that only some existing _address_ assignment > mechanisms are listed while existing _prefix_ assignment mechanisms are > not listed. > > DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation is such a mechanism RFC3633. > > There exist other prefix assignment mechanisms that are currently in > draft shape, that could be relevant: > -Prefix Delegation for NEMOv6 Mobile Routers (based on Mobile IPv6 > allocation or on DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation: 2 drafts). > -ICMPv6 Redirect is not quite a prefix assignment, but its effects are > the inclusion in the routing table of a /128 next-hop. > -two personal proposal as extension to ND to assign prefixes. drafts, no > WG no BoF - see manemo@mobileip.jp. > -there may be others if one looks harder. Section 4.2 of the draft provides a brief text on prefix delegation, rfc 3633 although without specifically pointing to the RFC. Since you missed the point, it seems the text needs further elaboration. Other related drafts that you mentioned can be included as informative references but I think the Autoconf PS ID need not analyze them in its problem statement section. - Shubhranshu > > Address (not prefix) assignment is a much wider landscape with more > drafts/rfcs that are less widespread use and that are not DHCP nor SLAAC > (Stateless Address Auto Config), see Fast Mobile IPv6 EXPERIMENTAL RFC > and Fast Mobile IPv4 WG item in MIP4 WG. Auto-generation of addresses > (from EUI64 IEEE-802, or from other link's ID, or from other secret > material - CGA, HBA) exist as well, in various RFC or draft form. > > That said, I will post separately on other aspects. > > Thanks, > > Alex > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 12 08:46:44 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQjuB-0005HQ-TJ; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:45:35 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQju8-0005GM-Uj; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:45:32 -0400 Received: from mailout1.samsung.com ([203.254.224.24]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQjpt-0000TE-E0; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:41:10 -0400 Received: from ep_mmp2 (mailout1.samsung.com [203.254.224.24]) by mailout1.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JES00ATVJ8KXV@mailout1.samsung.com>; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:41:08 +0900 (KST) Received: from Shubhranshu ([107.108.4.124]) by mmp2.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0JES004RJJ8IQ5@mmp2.samsung.com>; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:41:07 +0900 (KST) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:16:05 +0530 From: Shubhranshu To: Alexandru Petrescu Message-id: <022d01c764a4$676c8d90$7c046c6b@sisodomain.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Content-type: text/plain; reply-type=response; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <7.0.1.0.0.20070307085104.040bf850@dte.uma.es> <45EEBC36.6060001@inria.fr> <45F151B2.3030201@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: c1c65599517f9ac32519d043c37c5336 Cc: autoconf@ietf.org, manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Re:Autoconf Problem Statement X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Please see inline comment. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandru Petrescu" > > Do you think autoconf prefix autoconfiguration problem could accommodate > a problem whereby two Mobile Routers serving Local Fixed Nodes need to > exchange routing table entries? > > The scenario is a scene where two vehicles arrives and stay put for a > while. In each vehicle there's a fixed Mobile Router. EAch additional > computer is fixed in each vehicle and is called a Local Fixed Node (eg a > laptop, or car engine control, or pda - all fixed in each vehicle). > > Each Mobile Router has an egress interface, whose radio is receivable > from outside the vehicle. The radio in the vehicle is not visible > outside, especially when all doors are shut close. > > There's no Internet connectivity at this scene, no WMAN infrastructure, > all communication is built locally. > > With this setting, although one LFN in one vehicle could talk to the > other LFN in another vehicle (via the external inter-vehicular radio), > the two MRs currently have no means to exchange routing information > (other than OSPF or DHCP, which require pre-configuration of the other > peer prior to arriving at the scene). > > What do you think about this problem? Could it be accommodated > somewhere in the AUTOCONF Problem Statement draft? > > The solutions that _may_ be pertinent to this problem are Neighbour > Discovery extensions, specifically putting prefixes in RA or in NA. > There are about two drafts in this space, I can refer them if interest is. > > Is an AUTOCONF or MANET existing solution draft addressing this problem > already? Yes, it would help to better understand if you could list those two drafts. Since in your scenario the two seperate car networks are connected via external inter-vehicular radio, it can be considered as a single MANET. Since it is a standalone MANET, I think It would be fine to allow these nodes to talk to each other using MANET local address or ULA. 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IEEE 802.15.1, 802.15.2, 802.15.3, and 802.15.4 are about WPAN. Is there any paper/tutorial talking about their difference and relationship?
 
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Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 12 22:11:55 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQwS8-0004b3-Pm; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:09:28 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQwS7-0004an-FB for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:09:27 -0400 Received: from 84-21.comp.nus.edu.sg ([137.132.84.21] helo=postfix1.comp.nus.edu.sg) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQwS5-0002Co-Tc for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:09:27 -0400 Received: from localhost (avs1.comp.nus.edu.sg [192.168.20.25]) by postfix1.comp.nus.edu.sg (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973872418F; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:09:23 +0800 (SGT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at comp.nus.edu.sg Received: from postfix1.comp.nus.edu.sg ([192.168.21.75]) by localhost (avs1.comp.nus.edu.sg [192.168.20.25]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0lY2cooi05-7; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:09:27 +0800 (SGT) Received: from smtpauth1.comp.nus.edu.sg (smtpauth1.comp.nus.edu.sg [192.168.21.93]) by postfix1.comp.nus.edu.sg (Postfix) with ESMTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:09:23 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [172.18.179.71] (soccf-cir-001.ddns.comp.nus.edu.sg [172.18.179.71]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtpauth1.comp.nus.edu.sg (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F60234D74; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:09:22 +0800 (SGT) Message-ID: <45F6078C.5060404@comp.nus.edu.sg> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:08:12 +0800 From: Hwee-Xian Tan User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Yao Subject: Re: [manet] Difference among IEEE 802.15 Series Standards References: <889400.85145.qm@web58312.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <889400.85145.qm@web58312.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e1e48a527f609d1be2bc8d8a70eb76cb Cc: manet@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hi Chris, You might be interested in reading the following paper by D. Porcino and W. Hirt, which was published in IEEE Communications Magazine, Jul 2003: Ultra-Wideband Radio Technology: Potential and Challenges Ahead Chris Yao wrote: > hi, > > IEEE 802.15.1, 802.15.2, 802.15.3, and 802.15.4 are about WPAN. Is > there any paper/tutorial talking about their difference and relationship? > > Thanks, > > Chris > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Bored stiff? > Loosen up... > Download and play hundreds of games for free > on Yahoo! > Games. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > -- Hwee-Xian Tan Department of Computer Science School of Computing National University of Singapore http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/~tanhweex _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 12 22:52:41 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQx7R-0000zv-KD; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:52:09 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQx7Q-0000zm-6B for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:52:08 -0400 Received: from web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.85.8]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HQx7M-00051P-VX for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:52:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 30834 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Mar 2007 02:52:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=RQKmBoFCIbctnvXJ1vxqUmmhjcvWPt7539k/0ASLWpkh/+c0pZ9ykxvXS5jFnF9m9t1ZdmDY+vMQV6al5aYVDU4aRas3CXpP3yjiJoS3FpAQfhrV8lQVXVaky/YRHwjXlldmo9v12z5DQGK2Mw2bdWI+/u/QcNuJsoIQNrQzP8E=; X-YMail-OSG: EfnDQ2wVM1m7pxnVEzo7pJGWHgbEJVMAVhYXX866ewN6pWxJcADOEivajTrH8K6HbQ-- Received: from [202.184.41.200] by web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:52:04 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:52:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mubarak A. 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To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <413224.29765.qm@web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0bc60ec82efc80c84b8d02f4b0e4de22 Subject: [manet] IEEE 802.11e code X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1176613931==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============1176613931== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1668582716-1173754324=:29765" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --0-1668582716-1173754324=:29765 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi everybody :) I am planning to work on QoS enhancements for multimedia traffic on MANET, but so far I didnt found any available code for IEEE 802.11e which i need to work on. please anybody like to share the code or can guide me on how to implement 802.11e new features over the IEEE 802.11 a/b/g original standard. 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Hi everybody :)
 
I am planning to work on QoS enhancements for multimedia traffic on MANET, but so far I didnt found any available code for IEEE 802.11e which i need to work on. please anybody like to share the code or can guide me on how to implement 802.11e new features over the IEEE 802.11 a/b/g original standard.
 
Thank You.
 
Mubarak A. J.
Univeriti Putra Malaysia

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some can help me ? _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 13 07:46:37 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HR5Qx-0001SA-3P; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:44:51 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HR5Qu-0001Ru-TQ for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:44:48 -0400 Received: from web8415.mail.in.yahoo.com ([202.43.219.103]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HR5Qt-0002Bt-7r for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:44:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 15633 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Mar 2007 11:44:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.in; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=dNfGbOpzepBYuyE6LDPZF3hPqaU6Oo7t+5tB51+8YA4MxIWXIwOzXdSx9L9KkmdCN/7JH5iGsw55KNtEidZQoI/mJCVWuKnM7nCRD2qdQFUQ62jGZUWHgHFDFjo23wP9RgahIatDVj7M/ev5QBDynKMinMRyA2U9ZcXovJvkvHI=; X-YMail-OSG: v9Ywt.cVM1m.F7ROXB9_wKpt5YtrBes0oJXCUW2m1H1r..uGobN0FpSwGPLJV01VpSnFMS9DwZi9IxN0PSTgNtJ_DATZtXmUrXcQQ6Q5apO6U5EbDMRcZs29HGy6lxdIglP51hkLyjqDbQs5UpKeFPWQ Received: from [59.93.118.120] by web8415.mail.in.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:44:45 GMT Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:44:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Aslesha Akkineni To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <604548.15168.qm@web8415.mail.in.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3 Subject: [manet] Information regarding NS-2 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1132239425==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============1132239425== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-846027360-1173786285=:15168" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --0-846027360-1173786285=:15168 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am A.Aslesha Lakshmi pursuing my final year under-graduation in the Information Technology stream.As part of my final semester academic curriculum I am working on Project named Manet.I plan to implement two on-demand multicast routing protocols(MAODV and ODMRP).But I need an NS-2 simulator for implementing these protocols.I would be glad to receive any kind of related information that would be helpful in completing my project successfully. 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I am A.Aslesha Lakshmi pursuing my final year under-graduation in the Information Technology stream.As part of my final semester academic curriculum I am working on Project named Manet.I plan to implement two on-demand multicast routing protocols(MAODV and ODMRP).But I need an NS-2 simulator for implementing these protocols.I would be glad to receive any kind of related information that would be helpful in completing my project successfully.
 
Awaiting your reply at the earliest,
 
Thanking You,
 
A.Aslesha Lakshmi

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With several favorable characteristics, such as dynamic self-organization, self-configuration, self-healing, easy maintenance, high scalability and reliable services, wireless mesh networks have been advocated as a cost-effective approach to support high-speed last mile connectivity and ubiquitous broadband access in the context of home networking, enterprise networking, or community networking. Despite recent advances, and the technical accumulations from more than a decade's research effort in mobile ad hoc networks, many research issues remain in all protocol layers of wireless mesh networks. For example, the introducing of mixed (infrastructure and ad hoc) architecture, multi-radio, multi-channel, and multi-antenna, have brought new challenges in the design of physical, MAC, and routing protocols. New application scenarios, such as all-wireless office, are urging researchers to address enhanced QoS support and various security issues in the design of different protocol layers for wireless mesh networks. This workshop aims to bring together the technologies and researchers who share interest in the area of wireless mesh and ad hoc networks. The main purpose is to promote discussions of research and relevant activities in the design of architectures, protocols, algorithms, services, and applications for wireless networks. It also aims at increasing the synergy between academic and industry professionals working in this area. We plan to seek papers that address theoretical, experimental, and work in-progress at the all layers of wireless mesh and ad hoc networks, from application layer to the physical layer. Topics covered by the workshop will include, but are not limited to, the following: Multi-radio and multi-channel wireless mesh networking Wireless LAN, PAN, MAN and WAN Multi-hop wireless communications and ad hoc networking MAC protocols (IEEE 802.11, 802.15, 802.16, 802.20, and beyond) Routing, scheduling, and channel assignment protocols Implications of smart antennas on MAC and routing protocols Quality of Services provisioning Multimedia communications over mesh and ad hoc networks Network deployment, localization, and synchronization Topology construction and maintenance Methods and tools for mesh and ad hoc networks simulation Modeling and performance evaluations Physical layer techniques Cross layer optimizations Power-aware and energy-efficient protocols and algorithms Self-organization, self-configuration network architectures Intelligent system techniques for mesh and ad hoc networks Security-related issues in mesh and ad hoc networks Testbed, prototype, and practical systems Novel applications of mesh and ad hoc networks Wireless sensor networks and RFID Important Dates --------------- Paper submission due: March 23, 2007 Acceptance notification: May 11, 2007 Camera-ready due: June 1, 2007 Workshop: August 16, 2007 Submissions and Publications ---------------------------- Technical papers describing original, previously unpublished research, not currently under review somewhere else, are solicited. Submissions should include an abstract, key words, the e-mail address of the corresponding author. The length of the papers should be limited up to 6 pages in standard IEEE camera-ready format (double-column, 10-pt font). Papers should be submitted electronically in PDF format (or postscript) by sending it as an e-mail attachment to Liqiang Zhang (liqzhang@cs.iusb.edu) or Dakai Zhu (dzhu@cs.utsa.edu). Submission of a paper should be regarded as an undertaking that, should the paper be accepted, at least one of the authors will register and attend the workshop to present the work. All papers will be peer reviewed and the comments will be provided to the authors. All accepted papers will be published in workshop proceeding by IEEE Communications Society and IEEE Digital Library, or Springer's Lecture Notes in Computer Science. Distinguished papers will be invited to extend to full version for a special issue of Elsevier's Computer Communications Journal (ComCom) on Wireless Mesh Networks. The special issue will be published in early 2008. Organizing Committees --------------------- Workshop Program Co-Chairs Liqiang Zhang, Indiana University South Bend, USA (liqzhang@cs.iusb.edu) Dakai Zhu, University of Texas at San Antonio, USA (dzhu@cs.utsa.edu) Publicity Chair Jun Luo, University of Waterloo, Canada (j7luo@engmail.uwaterloo.ca) Technical Program Committee Malik Audeh, Tropos Networks, USA Edoardo S. Biagioni, University of Hawaii at Manoa, USA Luciano Bononi, University of Bologna, Italy Raffaele Bruno, IIT-CNR, Italy Surendar Chandra, University of Notre Dame, USA Guihai Chen, Nanjing University, China Christian Hartmann, Technical University of Munich, Germany Anders Host-Madsen, University of Hawaii at Manoa, USA Holger Karl, University of Paderborn, Germany Daeyoung Kim, Information and Communications University, Korea Sandeep Kulkarni, Michigan State University, USA Hyunjeong hannah Lee, Intel Research, USA Guoqing Li, Intel Research, USA Hock Beng Lim, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore Wei Lou, Hong Kong Polytechnic University, Hongkong Jun Luo, University of Waterloo, Canada Frank Reichenbach, University of Rostock, Germany Paolo Santi, IIT-CNR, Italy Kaoru Sezaki, University of Tokyo, Japan Weisong Shi, Wayne State University, USA Pavan Sikka, CSIRO, Australia David Surma, Indiana University South Bend, USA Ali Tosun, University of Texas at San Antonio, USA JP Vasseur, Cisco, USA Zhijun Wang, Hong Kong Polytechnic University, Hongkong Yuan Xue, Vanderbilt University, USA Stephen Yang, National Central University, Taiwan Advisory Committee Hossein Hakimzadeh, Indiana University South Bend, USA Sharon Hu, University of Notre Dame, USA Yingbo Hua, University of California Riverside, USA Sitharama Iyengar, Louisiana State University, USA Bahar Sadeghi, Intel Research, USA Loren Schwiebert, Wayne State University, USA Wei Zhao, Texas A&M University, USA **************************************************************************************** _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From sidak_ok@lrc.edu Wed Mar 14 13:00:47 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRWqF-0001KJ-Aq for manet-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:00:47 -0400 Received: from 232.red-80-35-214.staticip.rima-tde.net ([80.35.214.232] helo=[172.72.72.2]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRWlb-0006iB-Pl for manet-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:56:01 -0400 Received: from no.name.available by [172.72.72.2] via smtpd (for stiedprmail1.ietf.ORG [156.154.16.150]) with SMTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:54:33 +0100 From: sidak_ok@lrc.edu To: manet-archive@lists.ietf.org Subject: Returned mail: Data format error Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:54:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_93837EBF.947C42EB" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 3.2 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: b19722fc8d3865b147c75ae2495625f2 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_93837EBF.947C42EB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear user manet-archive@lists.ietf.org, We have received reports that your account has been used to send a large amount of spam during the last week. 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Competing teams of students/researchers will come together to form a large (we estimate = 30-50 nodes) ad hoc network. The organizers will generate traffic destined to = each team. Teams will be judged based on how much of the traffic destined to = them makes it through the network, how little energy they consume in = forwarding traffic, and a subjective evaluation of the quality of their solution's design. To get their traffic across the network, each team must rely on other teams' willingness to forward traffic for them. =20 The competition will be co-located with IEEE Globecom, in Washington, = DC, November 25-26, 2007. To participate, the first step is to check out our website at www.maniacchallenge.org .=20 =20 We have developed software and an API to allow teams to program their = nodes and override forwarding decisions made by the routing protocol. We have = also developed network monitoring and management software to keep track in real-time of what is going on during the competition. If you plan to = attend IEEE INFOCOM in Anchorage in May, we will be demonstrating the software architecture that supports the competition there. =20 If you are interested in forming a team, you can download the software = from www.maniacchallenge.org . Please let = us know of any suggestions, questions or comments. =20 Best regards, Luiz A. DaSilva and Allen B. MacKenzie Virginia Tech Principal Investigators, MANIAC Challenge =20 =20 Luiz A. DaSilva Assoc. Prof. of Electrical and Computer Engineering Virginia Tech ph: 703-387-6039 fax: 703-528-5543 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0085_01C76641.BEE82220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Announcing the 2007 Mobile Ad-hoc Networking Interoperability And = Cooperation (MANIAC) Challenge

 

The MANIAC Challenge is an NSF-funded competition to = better understand cooperation and interoperability in ad hoc networks.  = Competing teams of students/researchers will come together to form a large (we = estimate 30-50 nodes) ad hoc network. The organizers will generate traffic = destined to each team. Teams will be judged based on how much of the traffic = destined to them makes it through the network, how little energy they consume in = forwarding traffic, and a subjective evaluation of the quality of their = solution’s design. To get their traffic across the network, each team must rely on = other teams’ willingness to forward traffic for them.

 

The competition will be co-located with IEEE = Globecom, in Washington, DC, November 25-26, 2007. To participate, the first step is to check out our = website at www.maniacchallenge.org. =

 

We have developed software and an API to allow teams = to program their nodes and override forwarding decisions made by the = routing protocol. We have also developed network monitoring and management = software to keep track in real-time of what is going on during the = competition.  If you plan to attend IEEE INFOCOM in Anchorage in May, we will be demonstrating the software architecture that supports the = competition there.

 

If you are interested in forming a team, you can = download the software from www.maniacchallenge.org. Please let us know of any suggestions, questions or = comments.

 

Best regards,

Luiz A. DaSilva and Allen B. = MacKenzie

Virginia Tech

Principal Investigators, MANIAC = Challenge

 

 

Luiz A. DaSilva

Assoc. Prof. of Electrical and Computer = Engineering

Virginia Tech

ph: 703-387-6039   fax: 703-528-5543

 

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WiMAN 2007 -- Workshop on Wireless Mesh and Ad Hoc Networks=0A> = (*** Deadline is 10 days away!***) (Jun LUO (UWaterloo))=0A>=0A>=0A>------= ----------------------------------------------------------------=0A>=0A>Mes= sage: 1=0A>Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:16:09 -0400=0A> From: "Jun LUO \(UWate= rloo\)" =0A>Subject: [manet] WiMAN 2007 -- Work= shop on Wireless Mesh and Ad Hoc=0A> Networks (*** Deadline is 10 days awa= y!***)=0A>To: =0A>Cc: "Zhang, Liqiang" ,= Dakai Zhu =0A>Message-ID: <000a01c7663a$f039e1d0$bd6a618= 1@levy7>=0A>Content-Type: text/plain; format=3Dflowed; charset=3D"iso-8859-= 1";=0A> reply-type=3Doriginal=0A>=0A>[Apologies if you receive multiple co= pies of this CFP]=0A>=0A>--------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------=0A> First International Workshop= on Wireless Mesh and Ad Hoc Networks=0A> = (WiMAN'07)=0A> Honolulu, Hawaii, USA, August 16, 2007=0A>= in conjunction with ICCCN 2007.=0A> http= ://www.cs.iusb.edu/~liqzhang/WiMAN2007/index.htm=0A>=0A> = Submission Deadline: March 23, 2007=0A>=0A> Distinguished papers w= ill be invited to extend to full version for=0A> a special issue of E= lsevier's Computer Communications Journal=0A>(ComCom).=0A>=0A>=0A>*********= *******************************************************=0A>Recently, wirele= ss mesh networking is attracting significant interest from=0A>academia,=0A>= industry, and standard organizations. With several favorable=0A>characteris= tics, such=0A>as dynamic self-organization, self-configuration, self-healin= g, easy=0A>maintenance,=0A>high scalability and reliable services, wireless= mesh networks have been=0A>advocated=0A>as a cost-effective approach to su= pport high-speed last mile connectivity=0A>and=0A>ubiquitous broadband acce= ss in the context of home networking, enterprise=0A>networking,=0A>or commu= nity networking. Despite recent advances, and the technical=0A>accumulation= s=0A> from more than a decade's research effort in mobile ad hoc networks, = many=0A>research=0A>issues remain in all protocol layers of wireless mesh n= etworks. For example,=0A>the=0A>introducing of mixed (infrastructure and ad= hoc) architecture, multi-radio,=0A>multi-channel, and multi-antenna, have = brought new challenges in the design=0A>of=0A>physical, MAC, and routing pr= otocols. New application scenarios, such as=0A>all-wireless=0A>office, are = urging researchers to address enhanced QoS support and various=0A>security= =0A>issues in the design of different protocol layers for wireless mesh=0A>= networks.=0A>=0A>This workshop aims to bring together the technologies and = researchers who=0A>share=0A>interest in the area of wireless mesh and ad ho= c networks. The main purpose=0A>is to=0A>promote discussions of research a= nd relevant activities in the design of=0A>architectures,=0A>protocols, alg= orithms, services, and applications for wireless networks. It=0A>also aims= =0A>at increasing the synergy between academic and industry professionals= =0A>working in this=0A>area. We plan to seek papers that address theoretica= l, experimental, and=0A>work in-progress=0A>at the all layers of wireless m= esh and ad hoc networks, from application=0A>layer to the=0A>physical layer= .=0A>=0A>Topics covered by the workshop will include, but are not limited t= o, the=0A>following:=0A>=0A> Multi-radio and multi-channel wireless= mesh networking=0A> Wireless LAN, PAN, MAN and WAN=0A> Mul= ti-hop wireless communications and ad hoc networking=0A> MAC protoc= ols (IEEE 802.11, 802.15, 802.16, 802.20, and beyond)=0A> Routing, = scheduling, and channel assignment protocols=0A> Implications of sm= art antennas on MAC and routing protocols=0A> Quality of Services p= rovisioning=0A> Multimedia communications over mesh and ad hoc netw= orks=0A> Network deployment, localization, and synchronization=0A> = Topology construction and maintenance=0A> Methods and tools= for mesh and ad hoc networks simulation=0A> Modeling and performan= ce evaluations=0A> Physical layer techniques=0A> Cross laye= r optimizations=0A> Power-aware and energy-efficient protocols and = algorithms=0A> Self-organization, self-configuration network archit= ectures=0A> Intelligent system techniques for mesh and ad hoc netwo= rks=0A> Security-related issues in mesh and ad hoc networks=0A> = Testbed, prototype, and practical systems=0A> Novel applicatio= ns of mesh and ad hoc networks=0A> Wireless sensor networks and RFI= D=0A>=0A>Important Dates=0A>---------------=0A>=0A>Paper submission due: = March 23, 2007=0A>Acceptance notification: May 11, 2007=0A>Camera-ready due= : June 1, 2007=0A>Workshop: August 16, 2007=0A>=0A>=0A>Submissions and Pub= lications=0A>----------------------------=0A>=0A>Technical papers describin= g original, previously unpublished research, not=0A>currently=0A>under revi= ew somewhere else, are solicited. Submissions should include an=0A>abstract= ,=0A>key words, the e-mail address of the corresponding author. The length = of the=0A>papers=0A>should be limited up to 6 pages in standard IEEE camera= -ready format=0A>(double-column,=0A>10-pt font). Papers should be submitted= electronically in PDF format (or=0A>postscript)=0A>by sending it as an e-m= ail attachment to Liqiang Zhang=0A>(liqzhang@cs.iusb.edu) or=0A>Dakai Zhu (= dzhu@cs.utsa.edu). Submission of a paper should be regarded as an=0A>undert= aking that, should the paper be accepted, at least one of the authors=0A>wi= ll=0A>register and attend the workshop to present the work. All papers will= be=0A>peer=0A>reviewed and the comments will be provided to the authors. A= ll accepted=0A>papers will=0A>be published in workshop proceeding by IEEE C= ommunications Society and IEEE=0A>Digital=0A>Library, or Springer's Lecture= Notes in Computer Science.=0A>=0A>Distinguished papers will be invited to = extend to full version for a special=0A>issue=0A>of Elsevier's Computer Com= munications Journal (ComCom) on Wireless Mesh=0A>Networks.=0A>The special i= ssue will be published in early 2008.=0A>=0A>=0A>Organizing Committees=0A>-= --------------------=0A>=0A>Workshop Program Co-Chairs=0A>=0A> Liqi= ang Zhang, Indiana University South Bend, USA=0A>(liqzhang@cs.iusb.edu)=0A>= =0A> Dakai Zhu, University of Texas at San Antonio, USA=0A>(dzhu@cs= .utsa.edu)=0A>=0A>Publicity Chair=0A>=0A> Jun Luo, University of Wa= terloo, Canada (j7luo@engmail.uwaterloo.ca)=0A>=0A>Technical Program Commit= tee=0A>=0A> Malik Audeh, Tropos Networks, USA=0A> Edoardo S. Biag= ioni, University of Hawaii at Manoa, USA=0A> Luciano Bononi, Universit= y of Bologna, Italy=0A> Raffaele Bruno, IIT-CNR, Italy=0A> Surend= ar Chandra, University of Notre Dame, USA=0A> Guihai Chen, Nanjing Uni= versity, China=0A> Christian Hartmann, Technical University of Munich,= Germany=0A> Anders Host-Madsen, University of Hawaii at Manoa, USA=0A= > Holger Karl, University of Paderborn, Germany=0A> Daeyoung Kim,= Information and Communications University, Korea=0A> Sandeep Kulkarni= , Michigan State University, USA=0A> Hyunjeong hannah Lee, Intel Resea= rch, USA=0A> Guoqing Li, Intel Research, USA=0A> Hock Beng Lim, N= anyang Technological University, Singapore=0A> Wei Lou, Hong Kong Poly= technic University, Hongkong=0A> Jun Luo, University of Waterloo, Cana= da=0A> Frank Reichenbach, University of Rostock, Germany=0A> Paol= o Santi, IIT-CNR, Italy=0A> Kaoru Sezaki, University of Tokyo, Japan= =0A> Weisong Shi, Wayne State University, USA=0A> Pavan Sikka, CS= IRO, Australia=0A> David Surma, Indiana University South Bend, USA=0A>= Ali Tosun, University of Texas at San Antonio, USA=0A>JP Vasseur, Cis= co, USA=0A> Zhijun Wang, Hong Kong Polytechnic University, Hongkong=0A= > Yuan Xue, Vanderbilt University, USA=0A> Stephen Yang, National= Central University, Taiwan=0A>=0A>Advisory Committee=0A>=0A> Hossein = Hakimzadeh, Indiana University South Bend, USA=0A> Sharon Hu, Universi= ty of Notre Dame, USA=0A> Yingbo Hua, University of California Riversi= de, USA=0A> Sitharama Iyengar, Louisiana State University, USA=0A> = Bahar Sadeghi, Intel Research, USA=0A> Loren Schwiebert, Wayne State= University, USA=0A> Wei Zhao, Texas A&M University, USA=0A>=0A>******= ***************************************************************************= *******=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>------------------------------=0A>=0A>__________= _____________________________________=0A>manet mailing list=0A>manet@ietf.o= rg=0A>https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet=0A>=0A>=0A>End of manet = Digest, Vol 35, Issue 19=0A>*************************************=0A=0A=0AR= amesh.B=0D=0ADCSE, ANNA UNIVERSITY=0D=0ACHENNAI-25=0D=0A09940219061 --Next_1173938012---0-59.160.240.219-21866 Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline

=0A Tahnk you for your kind information.=A0
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=0AOn Wed, = 14 Mar 2007 manet-request@ietf.org wrote :
=0A>Send manet mailing lis= t submissions to
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=0A= >    1. WiMAN 2007 -- Workshop on Wireless Mesh and Ad Hoc Net= works
=0A>      (*** Deadline is 10 days away!***) (J= un LUO (UWaterloo))
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=0A>
=0A>-----------------------= -----------------------------------------------
=0A>
=0A>Messag= e: 1
=0A>Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:16:09 -0400
=0A> From: "= ;Jun LUO \(UWaterloo\)" <j7luo@engmail.uwaterloo.ca>
=0A>S= ubject: [manet] WiMAN 2007 -- Workshop on Wireless Mesh and Ad Hoc
=0A&g= t;      Networks     (*** Deadline is 10 days= away!***)
=0A>To: <manet@ietf.org>
=0A>Cc: "Zhang, = Liqiang" <liqzhang@iusb.edu>, Dakai Zhu <dzhu@cs.utsa.edu>=
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=0A= >[Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this CFP]
=0A>
= =0A>--------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------
=0A>        First International= Workshop on Wireless Mesh and Ad Hoc Networks
=0A>    &nbs= p;                     &n= bsp;       (WiMAN'07)
=0A>        =           Honolulu, Hawaii, USA, August 16, 2007<= BR>=0A>                  &n= bsp;   in conjunction with ICCCN 2007.
=0A>     =       http://www.cs.iusb.edu/~liqzhang/WiMAN2007/index.htm=
=0A>
=0A>              &nbs= p;       Submission Deadline: March 23, 2007
=0A>
= =0A>      Distinguished papers will be invited to extend = to full version for
=0A>      a special issue of Else= vier's Computer Communications Journal
=0A>(ComCom).
=0A>
= =0A>
=0A>*********************************************************= *******
=0A>Recently, wireless mesh networking is attracting signific= ant interest from
=0A>academia,
=0A>industry, and standard orga= nizations. With several favorable
=0A>characteristics, such
=0A>= ;as dynamic self-organization, self-configuration, self-healing, easy
= =0A>maintenance,
=0A>high scalability and reliable services, wirel= ess mesh networks have been
=0A>advocated
=0A>as a cost-effecti= ve approach to support high-speed last mile connectivity
=0A>and
= =0A>ubiquitous broadband access in the context of home networking, enter= prise
=0A>networking,
=0A>or community networking. Despite rece= nt advances, and the technical
=0A>accumulations
=0A> from more= than a decade's research effort in mobile ad hoc networks, many
=0A>= research
=0A>issues remain in all protocol layers of wireless mesh ne= tworks. For example,
=0A>the
=0A>introducing of mixed (infrastr= ucture and ad hoc) architecture, multi-radio,
=0A>multi-channel, and = multi-antenna, have brought new challenges in the design
=0A>of
= =0A>physical, MAC, and routing protocols. New application scenarios, suc= h as
=0A>all-wireless
=0A>office, are urging researchers to add= ress enhanced QoS support and various
=0A>security
=0A>issues i= n the design of different protocol layers for wireless mesh
=0A>netwo= rks.
=0A>
=0A>This workshop aims to bring together the technolo= gies and researchers who
=0A>share
=0A>interest in the area of = wireless mesh and ad hoc networks.  The main purpose
=0A>is to=0A>promote discussions of research and relevant activities in the des= ign of
=0A>architectures,
=0A>protocols, algorithms, services, = and applications for wireless networks.  It
=0A>also aims
=0A= >at increasing the synergy between academic and industry professionals=0A>working in this
=0A>area. We plan to seek papers that addres= s theoretical, experimental, and
=0A>work in-progress
=0A>at th= e all layers of wireless mesh and ad hoc networks, from application
=0A&= gt;layer to the
=0A>physical layer.
=0A>
=0A>Topics cover= ed by the workshop will include, but are not limited to, the
=0A>foll= owing:
=0A>
=0A>        Multi-radio and mu= lti-channel wireless mesh networking
=0A>        = Wireless LAN, PAN, MAN and WAN
=0A>        Mult= i-hop wireless communications and ad hoc networking
=0A>   =     MAC protocols (IEEE 802.11, 802.15, 802.16, 802.20, and bey= ond)
=0A>        Routing, scheduling, and channe= l assignment protocols
=0A>        Implications = of smart antennas on MAC and routing protocols
=0A>    &nbs= p;   Quality of Services provisioning
=0A>      =   Multimedia communications over mesh and ad hoc networks
=0A>&= nbsp;       Network deployment, localization, and synchroni= zation
=0A>        Topology construction and mai= ntenance
=0A>        Methods and tools for mesh = and ad hoc networks simulation
=0A>        Model= ing and performance evaluations
=0A>        Phys= ical layer techniques
=0A>        Cross layer op= timizations
=0A>        Power-aware and energy-e= fficient protocols and algorithms
=0A>        Se= lf-organization, self-configuration network architectures
=0A>  =       Intelligent system techniques for mesh and ad hoc net= works
=0A>        Security-related issues in mes= h and ad hoc networks
=0A>        Testbed, proto= type, and practical systems
=0A>        Novel ap= plications of mesh and ad hoc networks
=0A>       = ; Wireless sensor networks and RFID
=0A>
=0A>Important Dates=0A>---------------
=0A>
=0A>Paper submission due:  = March 23, 2007
=0A>Acceptance notification: May 11, 2007
=0A>Ca= mera-ready due:  June 1, 2007
=0A>Workshop: August 16, 2007
= =0A>
=0A>
=0A>Submissions and Publications
=0A>-------= ---------------------
=0A>
=0A>Technical papers describing orig= inal, previously unpublished research, not
=0A>currently
=0A>un= der review somewhere else, are solicited. Submissions should include an
= =0A>abstract,
=0A>key words, the e-mail address of the correspondi= ng author. The length of the
=0A>papers
=0A>should be limited u= p to 6 pages in standard IEEE camera-ready format
=0A>(double-column,=
=0A>10-pt font). Papers should be submitted electronically in PDF fo= rmat (or
=0A>postscript)
=0A>by sending it as an e-mail attachm= ent to Liqiang Zhang
=0A>(liqzhang@cs.iusb.edu) or
=0A>Dakai Zh= u (dzhu@cs.utsa.edu). Submission of a paper should be regarded as an
=0A= >undertaking that, should the paper be accepted, at least one of the aut= hors
=0A>will
=0A>register and attend the workshop to present t= he work. All papers will be
=0A>peer
=0A>reviewed and the comme= nts will be provided to the authors. All accepted
=0A>papers will
= =0A>be published in workshop proceeding by IEEE Communications Society a= nd IEEE
=0A>Digital
=0A>Library, or Springer's Lecture Notes in= Computer Science.
=0A>
=0A>Distinguished papers will be invite= d to extend to full version for a special
=0A>issue
=0A>of Else= vier's Computer Communications Journal (ComCom) on Wireless Mesh
=0A>= Networks.
=0A>The special issue will be published in early 2008.
= =0A>
=0A>
=0A>Organizing Committees
=0A>--------------= -------
=0A>
=0A>Workshop Program Co-Chairs
=0A>
=0A&g= t;        Liqiang Zhang, Indiana University South Bend= , USA
=0A>(liqzhang@cs.iusb.edu)
=0A>
=0A>    &= nbsp;   Dakai Zhu, University of Texas at San Antonio, USA
=0A>= (dzhu@cs.utsa.edu)
=0A>
=0A>Publicity Chair
=0A>
=0A&g= t;        Jun Luo, University of Waterloo, Canada (j7l= uo@engmail.uwaterloo.ca)
=0A>
=0A>Technical Program Committee=0A>
=0A>      Malik Audeh, Tropos Networks, USA<= BR>=0A>      Edoardo S. Biagioni, University of Hawaii at= Manoa, USA
=0A>      Luciano Bononi, University of Bo= logna, Italy
=0A>      Raffaele Bruno, IIT-CNR, Italy<= BR>=0A>      Surendar Chandra, University of Notre Dame, = USA
=0A>      Guihai Chen, Nanjing University, China=0A>      Christian Hartmann, Technical University of M= unich, Germany
=0A>      Anders Host-Madsen, Universit= y of Hawaii at Manoa, USA
=0A>      Holger Karl, Unive= rsity of Paderborn, Germany
=0A>      Daeyoung Kim, In= formation and Communications University, Korea
=0A>    &nbs= p; Sandeep Kulkarni, Michigan State University, USA
=0A>   =   Hyunjeong hannah Lee, Intel Research, USA
=0A>    &= nbsp; Guoqing Li, Intel Research, USA
=0A>      Hock B= eng Lim, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore
=0A>   = ;   Wei Lou, Hong Kong Polytechnic University, Hongkong
=0A>&nbs= p;     Jun Luo, University of Waterloo, Canada
=0A>  &= nbsp;   Frank Reichenbach, University of Rostock, Germany
=0A>&n= bsp;     Paolo Santi, IIT-CNR, Italy
=0A>    &nbs= p; Kaoru Sezaki, University of Tokyo, Japan
=0A>      = Weisong Shi, Wayne State University, USA
=0A>      Pav= an Sikka, CSIRO, Australia
=0A>      David Surma, Indi= ana University South Bend, USA
=0A>      Ali Tosun, Un= iversity of Texas at San Antonio, USA
=0A>JP Vasseur, Cisco, USA
= =0A>      Zhijun Wang, Hong Kong Polytechnic University, = Hongkong
=0A>      Yuan Xue, Vanderbilt University, US= A
=0A>      Stephen Yang, National Central University,= Taiwan
=0A>
=0A>Advisory Committee
=0A>
=0A> =     Hossein Hakimzadeh, Indiana University South Bend, USA
= =0A>      Sharon Hu, University of Notre Dame, USA
=0A= >      Yingbo Hua, University of California Riverside, US= A
=0A>      Sitharama Iyengar, Louisiana State Univers= ity, USA
=0A>      Bahar Sadeghi, Intel Research, USA<= BR>=0A>      Loren Schwiebert, Wayne State University, US= A
=0A>      Wei Zhao, Texas A&M University, USA=0A>
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WiMAN 2007 -- Workshop on Wireless Mesh and Ad Hoc Networks=0A> = (*** Deadline is 10 days away!***) (Jun LUO (UWaterloo))=0A>=0A>=0A>------= ----------------------------------------------------------------=0A>=0A>Mes= sage: 1=0A>Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:16:09 -0400=0A> From: "Jun LUO \(UWate= rloo\)" =0A>Subject: [manet] WiMAN 2007 -- Work= shop on Wireless Mesh and Ad Hoc=0A> Networks (*** Deadline is 10 days awa= y!***)=0A>To: =0A>Cc: "Zhang, Liqiang" ,= Dakai Zhu =0A>Message-ID: <000a01c7663a$f039e1d0$bd6a618= 1@levy7>=0A>Content-Type: text/plain; format=3Dflowed; charset=3D"iso-8859-= 1";=0A> reply-type=3Doriginal=0A>=0A>[Apologies if you receive multiple co= pies of this CFP]=0A>=0A>--------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------=0A> First International Workshop= on Wireless Mesh and Ad Hoc Networks=0A> = (WiMAN'07)=0A> Honolulu, Hawaii, USA, August 16, 2007=0A>= in conjunction with ICCCN 2007.=0A> http= ://www.cs.iusb.edu/~liqzhang/WiMAN2007/index.htm=0A>=0A> = Submission Deadline: March 23, 2007=0A>=0A> Distinguished papers w= ill be invited to extend to full version for=0A> a special issue of E= lsevier's Computer Communications Journal=0A>(ComCom).=0A>=0A>=0A>*********= *******************************************************=0A>Recently, wirele= ss mesh networking is attracting significant interest from=0A>academia,=0A>= industry, and standard organizations. With several favorable=0A>characteris= tics, such=0A>as dynamic self-organization, self-configuration, self-healin= g, easy=0A>maintenance,=0A>high scalability and reliable services, wireless= mesh networks have been=0A>advocated=0A>as a cost-effective approach to su= pport high-speed last mile connectivity=0A>and=0A>ubiquitous broadband acce= ss in the context of home networking, enterprise=0A>networking,=0A>or commu= nity networking. Despite recent advances, and the technical=0A>accumulation= s=0A> from more than a decade's research effort in mobile ad hoc networks, = many=0A>research=0A>issues remain in all protocol layers of wireless mesh n= etworks. For example,=0A>the=0A>introducing of mixed (infrastructure and ad= hoc) architecture, multi-radio,=0A>multi-channel, and multi-antenna, have = brought new challenges in the design=0A>of=0A>physical, MAC, and routing pr= otocols. New application scenarios, such as=0A>all-wireless=0A>office, are = urging researchers to address enhanced QoS support and various=0A>security= =0A>issues in the design of different protocol layers for wireless mesh=0A>= networks.=0A>=0A>This workshop aims to bring together the technologies and = researchers who=0A>share=0A>interest in the area of wireless mesh and ad ho= c networks. The main purpose=0A>is to=0A>promote discussions of research a= nd relevant activities in the design of=0A>architectures,=0A>protocols, alg= orithms, services, and applications for wireless networks. It=0A>also aims= =0A>at increasing the synergy between academic and industry professionals= =0A>working in this=0A>area. We plan to seek papers that address theoretica= l, experimental, and=0A>work in-progress=0A>at the all layers of wireless m= esh and ad hoc networks, from application=0A>layer to the=0A>physical layer= .=0A>=0A>Topics covered by the workshop will include, but are not limited t= o, the=0A>following:=0A>=0A> Multi-radio and multi-channel wireless= mesh networking=0A> Wireless LAN, PAN, MAN and WAN=0A> Mul= ti-hop wireless communications and ad hoc networking=0A> MAC protoc= ols (IEEE 802.11, 802.15, 802.16, 802.20, and beyond)=0A> Routing, = scheduling, and channel assignment protocols=0A> Implications of sm= art antennas on MAC and routing protocols=0A> Quality of Services p= rovisioning=0A> Multimedia communications over mesh and ad hoc netw= orks=0A> Network deployment, localization, and synchronization=0A> = Topology construction and maintenance=0A> Methods and tools= for mesh and ad hoc networks simulation=0A> Modeling and performan= ce evaluations=0A> Physical layer techniques=0A> Cross laye= r optimizations=0A> Power-aware and energy-efficient protocols and = algorithms=0A> Self-organization, self-configuration network archit= ectures=0A> Intelligent system techniques for mesh and ad hoc netwo= rks=0A> Security-related issues in mesh and ad hoc networks=0A> = Testbed, prototype, and practical systems=0A> Novel applicatio= ns of mesh and ad hoc networks=0A> Wireless sensor networks and RFI= D=0A>=0A>Important Dates=0A>---------------=0A>=0A>Paper submission due: = March 23, 2007=0A>Acceptance notification: May 11, 2007=0A>Camera-ready due= : June 1, 2007=0A>Workshop: August 16, 2007=0A>=0A>=0A>Submissions and Pub= lications=0A>----------------------------=0A>=0A>Technical papers describin= g original, previously unpublished research, not=0A>currently=0A>under revi= ew somewhere else, are solicited. Submissions should include an=0A>abstract= ,=0A>key words, the e-mail address of the corresponding author. The length = of the=0A>papers=0A>should be limited up to 6 pages in standard IEEE camera= -ready format=0A>(double-column,=0A>10-pt font). Papers should be submitted= electronically in PDF format (or=0A>postscript)=0A>by sending it as an e-m= ail attachment to Liqiang Zhang=0A>(liqzhang@cs.iusb.edu) or=0A>Dakai Zhu (= dzhu@cs.utsa.edu). Submission of a paper should be regarded as an=0A>undert= aking that, should the paper be accepted, at least one of the authors=0A>wi= ll=0A>register and attend the workshop to present the work. All papers will= be=0A>peer=0A>reviewed and the comments will be provided to the authors. A= ll accepted=0A>papers will=0A>be published in workshop proceeding by IEEE C= ommunications Society and IEEE=0A>Digital=0A>Library, or Springer's Lecture= Notes in Computer Science.=0A>=0A>Distinguished papers will be invited to = extend to full version for a special=0A>issue=0A>of Elsevier's Computer Com= munications Journal (ComCom) on Wireless Mesh=0A>Networks.=0A>The special i= ssue will be published in early 2008.=0A>=0A>=0A>Organizing Committees=0A>-= --------------------=0A>=0A>Workshop Program Co-Chairs=0A>=0A> Liqi= ang Zhang, Indiana University South Bend, USA=0A>(liqzhang@cs.iusb.edu)=0A>= =0A> Dakai Zhu, University of Texas at San Antonio, USA=0A>(dzhu@cs= .utsa.edu)=0A>=0A>Publicity Chair=0A>=0A> Jun Luo, University of Wa= terloo, Canada (j7luo@engmail.uwaterloo.ca)=0A>=0A>Technical Program Commit= tee=0A>=0A> Malik Audeh, Tropos Networks, USA=0A> Edoardo S. Biag= ioni, University of Hawaii at Manoa, USA=0A> Luciano Bononi, Universit= y of Bologna, Italy=0A> Raffaele Bruno, IIT-CNR, Italy=0A> Surend= ar Chandra, University of Notre Dame, USA=0A> Guihai Chen, Nanjing Uni= versity, China=0A> Christian Hartmann, Technical University of Munich,= Germany=0A> Anders Host-Madsen, University of Hawaii at Manoa, USA=0A= > Holger Karl, University of Paderborn, Germany=0A> Daeyoung Kim,= Information and Communications University, Korea=0A> Sandeep Kulkarni= , Michigan State University, USA=0A> Hyunjeong hannah Lee, Intel Resea= rch, USA=0A> Guoqing Li, Intel Research, USA=0A> Hock Beng Lim, N= anyang Technological University, Singapore=0A> Wei Lou, Hong Kong Poly= technic University, Hongkong=0A> Jun Luo, University of Waterloo, Cana= da=0A> Frank Reichenbach, University of Rostock, Germany=0A> Paol= o Santi, IIT-CNR, Italy=0A> Kaoru Sezaki, University of Tokyo, Japan= =0A> Weisong Shi, Wayne State University, USA=0A> Pavan Sikka, CS= IRO, Australia=0A> David Surma, Indiana University South Bend, USA=0A>= Ali Tosun, University of Texas at San Antonio, USA=0A>JP Vasseur, Cis= co, USA=0A> Zhijun Wang, Hong Kong Polytechnic University, Hongkong=0A= > Yuan Xue, Vanderbilt University, USA=0A> Stephen Yang, National= Central University, Taiwan=0A>=0A>Advisory Committee=0A>=0A> Hossein = Hakimzadeh, Indiana University South Bend, USA=0A> Sharon Hu, Universi= ty of Notre Dame, USA=0A> Yingbo Hua, University of California Riversi= de, USA=0A> Sitharama Iyengar, Louisiana State University, USA=0A> = Bahar Sadeghi, Intel Research, USA=0A> Loren Schwiebert, Wayne State= University, USA=0A> Wei Zhao, Texas A&M University, USA=0A>=0A>******= ***************************************************************************= *******=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>------------------------------=0A>=0A>__________= _____________________________________=0A>manet mailing list=0A>manet@ietf.o= rg=0A>https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet=0A>=0A>=0A>End of manet = Digest, Vol 35, Issue 19=0A>*************************************=0A=0A=0AR= amesh.B=0D=0ADCSE, ANNA UNIVERSITY=0D=0ACHENNAI-25=0D=0A09940219061 --Next_1173938266---0-59.160.240.174-2909 Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline

=0A Tahnk you for your kind information.=A0
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=0AOn Wed, = 14 Mar 2007 manet-request@ietf.org wrote :
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=0A= >    1. WiMAN 2007 -- Workshop on Wireless Mesh and Ad Hoc Net= works
=0A>      (*** Deadline is 10 days away!***) (J= un LUO (UWaterloo))
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=0A>
=0A>-----------------------= -----------------------------------------------
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=0A>Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:16:09 -0400
=0A> From: "= ;Jun LUO \(UWaterloo\)" <j7luo@engmail.uwaterloo.ca>
=0A>S= ubject: [manet] WiMAN 2007 -- Workshop on Wireless Mesh and Ad Hoc
=0A&g= t;      Networks     (*** Deadline is 10 days= away!***)
=0A>To: <manet@ietf.org>
=0A>Cc: "Zhang, = Liqiang" <liqzhang@iusb.edu>, Dakai Zhu <dzhu@cs.utsa.edu>=
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=0A>
= =0A>--------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------
=0A>        First International= Workshop on Wireless Mesh and Ad Hoc Networks
=0A>    &nbs= p;                     &n= bsp;       (WiMAN'07)
=0A>        =           Honolulu, Hawaii, USA, August 16, 2007<= BR>=0A>                  &n= bsp;   in conjunction with ICCCN 2007.
=0A>     =       http://www.cs.iusb.edu/~liqzhang/WiMAN2007/index.htm=
=0A>
=0A>              &nbs= p;       Submission Deadline: March 23, 2007
=0A>
= =0A>      Distinguished papers will be invited to extend = to full version for
=0A>      a special issue of Else= vier's Computer Communications Journal
=0A>(ComCom).
=0A>
= =0A>
=0A>*********************************************************= *******
=0A>Recently, wireless mesh networking is attracting signific= ant interest from
=0A>academia,
=0A>industry, and standard orga= nizations. With several favorable
=0A>characteristics, such
=0A>= ;as dynamic self-organization, self-configuration, self-healing, easy
= =0A>maintenance,
=0A>high scalability and reliable services, wirel= ess mesh networks have been
=0A>advocated
=0A>as a cost-effecti= ve approach to support high-speed last mile connectivity
=0A>and
= =0A>ubiquitous broadband access in the context of home networking, enter= prise
=0A>networking,
=0A>or community networking. Despite rece= nt advances, and the technical
=0A>accumulations
=0A> from more= than a decade's research effort in mobile ad hoc networks, many
=0A>= research
=0A>issues remain in all protocol layers of wireless mesh ne= tworks. For example,
=0A>the
=0A>introducing of mixed (infrastr= ucture and ad hoc) architecture, multi-radio,
=0A>multi-channel, and = multi-antenna, have brought new challenges in the design
=0A>of
= =0A>physical, MAC, and routing protocols. New application scenarios, suc= h as
=0A>all-wireless
=0A>office, are urging researchers to add= ress enhanced QoS support and various
=0A>security
=0A>issues i= n the design of different protocol layers for wireless mesh
=0A>netwo= rks.
=0A>
=0A>This workshop aims to bring together the technolo= gies and researchers who
=0A>share
=0A>interest in the area of = wireless mesh and ad hoc networks.  The main purpose
=0A>is to=0A>promote discussions of research and relevant activities in the des= ign of
=0A>architectures,
=0A>protocols, algorithms, services, = and applications for wireless networks.  It
=0A>also aims
=0A= >at increasing the synergy between academic and industry professionals=0A>working in this
=0A>area. We plan to seek papers that addres= s theoretical, experimental, and
=0A>work in-progress
=0A>at th= e all layers of wireless mesh and ad hoc networks, from application
=0A&= gt;layer to the
=0A>physical layer.
=0A>
=0A>Topics cover= ed by the workshop will include, but are not limited to, the
=0A>foll= owing:
=0A>
=0A>        Multi-radio and mu= lti-channel wireless mesh networking
=0A>        = Wireless LAN, PAN, MAN and WAN
=0A>        Mult= i-hop wireless communications and ad hoc networking
=0A>   =     MAC protocols (IEEE 802.11, 802.15, 802.16, 802.20, and bey= ond)
=0A>        Routing, scheduling, and channe= l assignment protocols
=0A>        Implications = of smart antennas on MAC and routing protocols
=0A>    &nbs= p;   Quality of Services provisioning
=0A>      =   Multimedia communications over mesh and ad hoc networks
=0A>&= nbsp;       Network deployment, localization, and synchroni= zation
=0A>        Topology construction and mai= ntenance
=0A>        Methods and tools for mesh = and ad hoc networks simulation
=0A>        Model= ing and performance evaluations
=0A>        Phys= ical layer techniques
=0A>        Cross layer op= timizations
=0A>        Power-aware and energy-e= fficient protocols and algorithms
=0A>        Se= lf-organization, self-configuration network architectures
=0A>  =       Intelligent system techniques for mesh and ad hoc net= works
=0A>        Security-related issues in mes= h and ad hoc networks
=0A>        Testbed, proto= type, and practical systems
=0A>        Novel ap= plications of mesh and ad hoc networks
=0A>       = ; Wireless sensor networks and RFID
=0A>
=0A>Important Dates=0A>---------------
=0A>
=0A>Paper submission due:  = March 23, 2007
=0A>Acceptance notification: May 11, 2007
=0A>Ca= mera-ready due:  June 1, 2007
=0A>Workshop: August 16, 2007
= =0A>
=0A>
=0A>Submissions and Publications
=0A>-------= ---------------------
=0A>
=0A>Technical papers describing orig= inal, previously unpublished research, not
=0A>currently
=0A>un= der review somewhere else, are solicited. Submissions should include an
= =0A>abstract,
=0A>key words, the e-mail address of the correspondi= ng author. The length of the
=0A>papers
=0A>should be limited u= p to 6 pages in standard IEEE camera-ready format
=0A>(double-column,=
=0A>10-pt font). Papers should be submitted electronically in PDF fo= rmat (or
=0A>postscript)
=0A>by sending it as an e-mail attachm= ent to Liqiang Zhang
=0A>(liqzhang@cs.iusb.edu) or
=0A>Dakai Zh= u (dzhu@cs.utsa.edu). Submission of a paper should be regarded as an
=0A= >undertaking that, should the paper be accepted, at least one of the aut= hors
=0A>will
=0A>register and attend the workshop to present t= he work. All papers will be
=0A>peer
=0A>reviewed and the comme= nts will be provided to the authors. All accepted
=0A>papers will
= =0A>be published in workshop proceeding by IEEE Communications Society a= nd IEEE
=0A>Digital
=0A>Library, or Springer's Lecture Notes in= Computer Science.
=0A>
=0A>Distinguished papers will be invite= d to extend to full version for a special
=0A>issue
=0A>of Else= vier's Computer Communications Journal (ComCom) on Wireless Mesh
=0A>= Networks.
=0A>The special issue will be published in early 2008.
= =0A>
=0A>
=0A>Organizing Committees
=0A>--------------= -------
=0A>
=0A>Workshop Program Co-Chairs
=0A>
=0A&g= t;        Liqiang Zhang, Indiana University South Bend= , USA
=0A>(liqzhang@cs.iusb.edu)
=0A>
=0A>    &= nbsp;   Dakai Zhu, University of Texas at San Antonio, USA
=0A>= (dzhu@cs.utsa.edu)
=0A>
=0A>Publicity Chair
=0A>
=0A&g= t;        Jun Luo, University of Waterloo, Canada (j7l= uo@engmail.uwaterloo.ca)
=0A>
=0A>Technical Program Committee=0A>
=0A>      Malik Audeh, Tropos Networks, USA<= BR>=0A>      Edoardo S. Biagioni, University of Hawaii at= Manoa, USA
=0A>      Luciano Bononi, University of Bo= logna, Italy
=0A>      Raffaele Bruno, IIT-CNR, Italy<= BR>=0A>      Surendar Chandra, University of Notre Dame, = USA
=0A>      Guihai Chen, Nanjing University, China=0A>      Christian Hartmann, Technical University of M= unich, Germany
=0A>      Anders Host-Madsen, Universit= y of Hawaii at Manoa, USA
=0A>      Holger Karl, Unive= rsity of Paderborn, Germany
=0A>      Daeyoung Kim, In= formation and Communications University, Korea
=0A>    &nbs= p; Sandeep Kulkarni, Michigan State University, USA
=0A>   =   Hyunjeong hannah Lee, Intel Research, USA
=0A>    &= nbsp; Guoqing Li, Intel Research, USA
=0A>      Hock B= eng Lim, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore
=0A>   = ;   Wei Lou, Hong Kong Polytechnic University, Hongkong
=0A>&nbs= p;     Jun Luo, University of Waterloo, Canada
=0A>  &= nbsp;   Frank Reichenbach, University of Rostock, Germany
=0A>&n= bsp;     Paolo Santi, IIT-CNR, Italy
=0A>    &nbs= p; Kaoru Sezaki, University of Tokyo, Japan
=0A>      = Weisong Shi, Wayne State University, USA
=0A>      Pav= an Sikka, CSIRO, Australia
=0A>      David Surma, Indi= ana University South Bend, USA
=0A>      Ali Tosun, Un= iversity of Texas at San Antonio, USA
=0A>JP Vasseur, Cisco, USA
= =0A>      Zhijun Wang, Hong Kong Polytechnic University, = Hongkong
=0A>      Yuan Xue, Vanderbilt University, US= A
=0A>      Stephen Yang, National Central University,= Taiwan
=0A>
=0A>Advisory Committee
=0A>
=0A> =     Hossein Hakimzadeh, Indiana University South Bend, USA
= =0A>      Sharon Hu, University of Notre Dame, USA
=0A= >      Yingbo Hua, University of California Riverside, US= A
=0A>      Sitharama Iyengar, Louisiana State Univers= ity, USA
=0A>      Bahar Sadeghi, Intel Research, USA<= BR>=0A>      Loren Schwiebert, Wayne State University, US= A
=0A>      Wei Zhao, Texas A&M University, USA=0A>
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--Next_1173938266---0-59.160.240.174-2909-- --===============1393225964== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============1393225964==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 15 02:11:34 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRjAV-0002PL-8B; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:10:31 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRjAT-0002PC-CT for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:10:29 -0400 Received: from web53908.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.36.218]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRjAP-0005nH-5Z for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:10:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 4778 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Mar 2007 06:10:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ZORw/Wtj6BXPH6ZmQol3lEhSn5WchoYEikvQLmMo8nM9IwkFFpspL6xlEOmV3kEFA3eycDOiMDV4kmaCdjc0laIGt9xHv+10ZoFhAbkCc/qIH4ZBeqFwIYn4PpA73PBozQPJZv+T+4zsIDuvKtTTKIiV8Zw5Mz1L/SF3ETMBdRM=; X-YMail-OSG: QFJhBOAVM1kdywxOyXwxRuRvhiwTeT9frnmJX_8KJ2bGxZrf8jz_uY3i8ldOJk97STxwRiQII1fXi7yPw_ziraBWePB7b0jquU13CXT6dIiX7MlKF_4Og2WjLdB6nbdxUNebr3oADLEISpHEmAQ06UYVwg-- Received: from [202.131.137.1] by web53908.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:10:24 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:10:24 -0700 (PDT) From: vasantha vallinayagam To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <782859.3790.qm@web53908.mail.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 856eb5f76e7a34990d1d457d8e8e5b7f Subject: [manet] Help regd DSR implementation in NS2 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org hi all, I am a beginner in ns2, i want to simulate DSR protocol and also want to modify it. Where can i find study materials? some can help me ? Thanks in advance, Vasantha ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 15 04:15:54 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRl4y-0001wY-Ua; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:12:56 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRl4x-0001wP-Gs for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:12:55 -0400 Received: from monge.univ-mlv.fr ([193.55.63.80]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRl4w-00057c-2k for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:12:55 -0400 Received: from monge.univ-mlv.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by monge.univ-mlv.fr (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l2F8Chex021889 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:12:43 +0100 Received: (from apache@localhost) by monge.univ-mlv.fr (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l2F8ChG1021888 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:12:43 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: monge.univ-mlv.fr: apache set sender to badis@univ-mlv.fr using -f Received: from ALagny-153-1-98-122.w90-3.abo.wanadoo.fr (ALagny-153-1-98-122.w90-3.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.3.145.122]) by www-igm.univ-mlv.fr (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:12:43 +0100 Message-ID: <1173946363.45f8fffb70536@www-igm.univ-mlv.fr> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:12:43 +0100 From: badis@univ-mlv.fr To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.5 X-Originating-IP: 90.3.145.122 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 538aad3a3c4f01d8b6a6477ca4248793 Subject: [manet] Draft Update: draft-badis-manet-qolsr-05.txt X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hi all, I have submitted an update draft version (04 ==> 05), which focuses on QoS in ad hoc networks using QOLSR. draft URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-badis-manet-qolsr-05.txt Major changes from version 04 to version 05 - Restructured draft in order to improve readability and modularity. - Enhancement of oscillation-Avoidance at the source. Major changes from version 03 to version 04 - Generalization of QMPRs selection algorithm for all possible QoS metrics (QMPR-Metrics). Instead of QMPRs computation based only on bandwidth and delay, any QoS metric can be used, which may be applicable in specific scenarios. QMPRs-Metrics SHOULD be declared before QOLSR running. Otherwise, bandwidth and delay are used as default parameters for the QMPRs selection. - Introduction of support for multiple interfaces. - A new algorithm for QMPRs selection. - QOLSR routes contain only QMPRs as intermediate nodes between a source destination pair. - Using the QOLSR protocol, a node keeps information about the next hop alone. So, it loses the ability to distinguish the part of used capacity that is induced by the given flow from other ones. There are cases in which a source node continuously changes a flow's next hop in response to the change of available bandwidth on its path and cannot tell apart the traffic induced by itself from traffic generated by other nodes. This situation is called the oscillation problem. Tow solutions are proposed to resolve this problem: at the source or distributedly by each hop in the path. A more detail about QOLSR project, simulation code (under Opnet and NS-2) and implementaion can be found at http://qolsr.lri.fr/ Any comments on the subject are welcome. Best regards --H. Badis _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 15 04:27:55 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRlIa-0002Cg-UC; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:27:00 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRlIZ-00026Y-Bw for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:26:59 -0400 Received: from monge.univ-mlv.fr ([193.55.63.80]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRlIX-0007cX-Uz for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:26:59 -0400 Received: from monge.univ-mlv.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by monge.univ-mlv.fr (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l2F8QvUM022911 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:26:57 +0100 Received: (from apache@localhost) by monge.univ-mlv.fr (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l2F8Qvmh022910 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:26:57 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: monge.univ-mlv.fr: apache set sender to badis@univ-mlv.fr using -f Received: from ALagny-153-1-98-122.w90-3.abo.wanadoo.fr (ALagny-153-1-98-122.w90-3.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.3.145.122]) by www-igm.univ-mlv.fr (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:26:57 +0100 Message-ID: <1173947217.45f90351b0364@www-igm.univ-mlv.fr> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:26:57 +0100 From: badis@univ-mlv.fr To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.5 X-Originating-IP: 90.3.145.122 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 769a46790fb42fbb0b0cc700c82f7081 Subject: [manet] Draft Update: draft-badis-manet-ceqmm-02.txt X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hi all, I have submitted an update draft version (01 ==> 02). This draft specifies CEQMM, a Complete and Efficient Quality of Service (QoS) Model for MANETs which combines the positive aspects of both IntServ and DiffServ. CEQMM applies the QOLSR protocol to support multiple-metric routing criteria and to respond quickly when changes in topology and/or QoS conditions are detected. Major changes from version 01 to version 02 - Restructured draft in order to improve readability and modularity. - Enhancement of congestion Avoidance and Control mechanisms. - Providing scalable support for multiple classes of QoS guarantees. Any comments on the subject are welcome. Best regards --H. Badis Abstract This draft specifies CEQMM, a Complete and Efficient Quality of Service (QoS) Model for MANETs which combines the positive aspects of both IntServ and DiffServ. It uses a hybrid per-flow and per-class provisioning scheme. In such a scheme, traffic of highest priority is given per-flow provisioning while other priority classes are given per-class provisioning. To offer this scheme and to ensure that certain packets receive higher priority transmission than other packets, priority classifier, active queue management and packet scheduler are integrated. CEQMM applies the QOLSR protocol to support multiple-metric routing criteria and to respond quickly when changes in topology and/or QoS conditions are detected. Once a path is chosen for one QoS flow, CEQMM performs call admission control (CAC) at each intermediate node. For only QoS flows of highest priority, a node can precede to soft and later hard bandwidth reservation on links during the CAC process. CEQMM implements congestion avoidance mechanisms to prevent a network from entering the congested state. However, in MANETs, network congestion can still occur frequently under mobility. In order to prevent performance degradation due to mobility-triggered congestion, CEQMM uses congestion control scheme based on: (i) rated control of best-effort traffic, (ii) path selection for best-effort traffic, (iii) next hop maintaining for each QoS class (except the high-priority class), (iv) active queue management and (v) backoff timer method. _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 15 07:45:31 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRoMb-0002cT-KZ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:43:21 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRoMY-0002cM-Fn for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:43:18 -0400 Received: from mail.iugaza.edu ([217.66.248.92] helo=iugaza.edu) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRoMV-0003rE-G4 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:43:18 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:41:22 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Request for Clarificarion Thread-Index: Acdm9trgdos9/HVdT16L8FBaevZtQQ== From: "Abdessalam H. 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--===============1287097265== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============1287097265==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 15 08:20:13 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRoun-0000uE-C2; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:18:41 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRoul-0000u8-BY for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:18:39 -0400 Received: from monge.univ-mlv.fr ([193.55.63.80]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRouh-00039t-QE for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:18:39 -0400 Received: from monge.univ-mlv.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by monge.univ-mlv.fr (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l2FCITbK010810 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:18:29 +0100 Received: (from apache@localhost) by monge.univ-mlv.fr (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l2FCITpL010808 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:18:29 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: monge.univ-mlv.fr: apache set sender to badis@univ-mlv.fr using -f Received: from castillon.univ-mlv.fr (castillon.univ-mlv.fr [10.1.29.155]) by www-igm.univ-mlv.fr (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:18:29 +0100 Message-ID: <1173961109.45f939954436f@www-igm.univ-mlv.fr> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:18:29 +0100 From: badis@univ-mlv.fr To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.5 X-Originating-IP: 10.1.29.155 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08170828343bcf1325e4a0fb4584481c Subject: [manet] CEQMM draft URL X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hi all, I have forgotten to give the CEQMM draft url in my previous message. DRAFT URL : http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-badis-manet-ceqmm-02.txt Best regards, --H. Badis _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 15 11:24:38 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRrla-0001Od-3y; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:21:22 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRrlY-0001Jd-Ie for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:21:20 -0400 Received: from exchange-fe1a.nmsu.edu ([128.123.34.178] helo=exchange-fe1.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRrlW-0008BK-1z for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:21:20 -0400 Received: from EXCHANGE-BE1.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu ([128.123.34.119]) by exchange-fe1.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:21:14 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [manet] Request for Clarificarion Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:21:13 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [manet] Request for Clarificarion Thread-Index: Acdm9trgdos9/HVdT16L8FBaevZtQQAHmksg References: From: "Mullen, John" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2007 15:21:14.0981 (UTC) FILETIME=[924C8150:01C76715] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e8c5db863102a3ada84e0cd52a81a79e X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0666818587==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0666818587== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C76715.92361704" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C76715.92361704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ahabbash, =20 If you want general information, I would recommend AD Hoc Networking by Charles Perkins. Although it is dated, it will give you some idea of how these things are done. Note that definitions are specific to individual schemes and protocols. John P. Mullen, Ph.D. (505) 646-2958 jomullen@ad.nmsu.edu =20 =20 ________________________________ From: Abdessalam H. Elhabbash [mailto:ahabbash@mail.iugaza.edu]=20 Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 5:41 AM To: manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Request for Clarificarion =20 Dear all, =20 I'm doing a research about Clustered Ad hoc networks. Can I find standard definitions and descriptions about the jobs that a CH should do. =20 Regards,=20 ahabbash =20 Eng. Abdessalam Elhabbash Computer Engineer=09 Electrical and Computer Engineering Dept. = =20 Faculty of Engineering = =20 The Islamic University - Gaza =20 P.O.Box 108 Gaza, Palestine Phone: +972 8 2860700 ext: 2895=09 Fax: +972 8 2860800=09 =09 =09 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C76715.92361704 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Ahabbash,
 
If you want general information, I would = recommend AD=20 Hoc Networking by Charles Perkins. Although it is dated, it will give = you some=20 idea of how these things are done. Note that definitions are specific to = individual schemes and protocols.

John P. Mullen, Ph.D.
(505)=20 646-2958
jomullen@ad.nmsu.edu
 

 

From: Abdessalam H. Elhabbash=20 [mailto:ahabbash@mail.iugaza.edu]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, = 2007 5:41=20 AM
To: manet@ietf.org
Subject: [manet] Request for=20 Clarificarion

 
Dear all,
 
I'm doing a research = about Clustered=20 Ad hoc networks. Can I find standard definitions and descriptions about = the jobs=20 that a CH should do.
 
Regards,
ahabbash
 
Eng. Abdessalam = Elhabbash
Computer=20 Engineer
The Islamic=20 University - Gaza
P.O.Box = 108
Gaza,=20 Palestine
Phone: +972 8 2860700    ext: = 2895
Fax:
 +972 8 2860800
 
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C76715.92361704-- --===============0666818587== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============0666818587==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 15 11:48:45 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRsAQ-0000PQ-W0; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:47:02 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRsAP-0000PL-8X for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:47:01 -0400 Received: from markov.ece.neu.edu ([129.10.60.83] helo=SMTP1.ECE.NEU.EDU) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRsAM-00036Q-Ul for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:47:01 -0400 Received: from saffron.ece.neu.edu (saffron.ece.neu.edu [129.10.60.111]) by SMTP1.ECE.NEU.EDU (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id l2FFkvB5005497; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:46:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gateway.ece.neu.edu ([129.10.60.71]) by saffron.ece.neu.edu (SMSSMTP 4.1.5.31) with SMTP id M2007031511410605754 ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:41:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (basagni@localhost) by gateway.ece.neu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id l2FFkEo03044; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:46:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gateway.ece.neu.edu: basagni owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:46:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefano Basagni To: "Mullen, John" Subject: RE: [manet] Request for Clarificarion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d8ae4fd88fcaf47c1a71c804d04f413d Cc: manet@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hi Ahabbash, we recently had a review of clustering protocols as well as some performance comparison in a paper of ours: S. Basagni, M. Mastrogiovanni, A. Panconesi, and C. Petrioli. Localized Protocols for Ad Hoc Clustering and Backbone Formation: A Performance Comparison. IEEE Transactions on Parallel and Distributed Systems, Special Issue on Localized Communication and Topology Protocols for Ad Hoc Networks (S. Olariu, D. Simplot-Ryl, and I. Stojmenovic, editors), April, 2006. You might want to take a look at that. Cheers, St. On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Mullen, John wrote: > Hi Ahabbash, > > If you want general information, I would recommend AD Hoc Networking by > Charles Perkins. Although it is dated, it will give you some idea of how > these things are done. Note that definitions are specific to individual > schemes and protocols. > > John P. Mullen, Ph.D. > (505) 646-2958 > jomullen@ad.nmsu.edu > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Abdessalam H. Elhabbash [mailto:ahabbash@mail.iugaza.edu] > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 5:41 AM > To: manet@ietf.org > Subject: [manet] Request for Clarificarion > > > > Dear all, > > I'm doing a research about Clustered Ad hoc networks. Can I find > standard definitions and descriptions about the jobs that a CH should > do. > > Regards, > ahabbash > > Eng. Abdessalam Elhabbash > Computer Engineer > Electrical and Computer Engineering Dept. > > Faculty of Engineering > > The Islamic University - Gaza > P.O.Box 108 > Gaza, Palestine > Phone: +972 8 2860700 ext: 2895 > Fax: > +972 8 2860800 > > > > -- Stefano Basagni, Ph.D. Assistant Professor of Computer Engineering Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering 312 Dana Research Center Northeastern University 360 Huntington Ave. Boston, MA 02115 Tel. 617 373 3061, Fax 617 373 8970 E-mail: basagni@ece.neu.edu *** http://www.ece.neu.edu/faculty/basagni/ *** _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From jef@acme.com Thu Mar 15 12:46:07 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRt5b-0004Ay-1o for manet-archive@lists.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:46:07 -0400 Received: from 232.red-80-35-214.staticip.rima-tde.net ([80.35.214.232] helo=[172.72.72.2]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRt5Z-0001WW-NK for manet-archive@lists.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:46:07 -0400 Received: from no.name.available by [172.72.72.2] via smtpd (for ietf-mx.ietf.ORG [156.154.16.150]) with SMTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:44:40 +0100 From: jef@acme.com To: manet-archive@lists.ietf.org Subject: report Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:44:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_E760C274.7EBCABFD" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 3.2 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: 97adf591118a232206bdb5a27b217034 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_E760C274.7EBCABFD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The original message was received at Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:44:59 +0100 from 153.158.104.42 ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- manet-archive@lists.ietf.org ----- Transcript of the session follows ----- ... while talking to 27.129.86.87: 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable; [85.32.161.208] blocked using relays.osirusoft.com, reason: Blocked Session aborted, reason: lost connection ------=_NextPart_000_0006_E760C274.7EBCABFD Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="=?utf-8?B?RGVsZXRlZDAudHh0?= " Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="=?utf-8?B?RGVsZXRlZDAudHh0?= " QSBmaWxlIHdhcyByZW1vdmVkIGJlY2F1c2UgaXQgY29udGFpbmVkIG1hbGljaW91cyBjb2Rl IHRoYXQgY291bGQgbm90IGJlIHJlcGFpcmVkLiAgRmlsZSBuYW1lIGlzIGRvY3VtZW50Lnpp cC4gIFZpcnVzIG5hbWUgaXMgVzMyLk15ZG9vbS5NQG1tDQo= ------=_NextPart_000_0006_E760C274.7EBCABFD-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 15 15:01:51 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRvAD-0001mx-N6; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:59:01 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRv9b-0001DM-MM for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:58:23 -0400 Received: from ee.tamu.edu ([165.91.241.199]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRv4G-0007RW-MM for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:52:57 -0400 Received: from ECE149 (ece149.tamu.edu [165.91.208.72]) by ee.tamu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l2FIpNli025885; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:51:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001701c76732$f2200940$48d05ba5@ECE149> From: "Dr. Xi Zhang" To: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:51:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3fbd9b434023f8abfcb1532abaec7a21 Cc: Subject: [manet] CFP QShine 2007 (Submission Deadline Postponed), August 14-17, 2007, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org *Sorry for receiving multiple copies* Call for Papers for QShine 2007 ------------ The Fourth International Conference on Heterogeneous Networking for Quality, Reliability, Security and Robustness (QShine 2007) http://www.qshine.org/ Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, August 14-17, 2007 Sponsored by Create-Net and ICST Technically Co-Sponsored by IEEE and ACM ******* Overview The Fourth International Conference on Heterogeneous Networking for Quality, Reliability, Security and Robustness (QShine 2007) will focus on the research challenges associated the design and implementation of large-scale wired and wireless networks and distributed systems. Following the tradition of the previous QShine meetings, QShine 2007 will feature prominent invited speakers as well as papers by top researchers in the field. ******* Scope The QShine program committee solicits original papers describing both experimental and theoretical results that address a wide spectrum of fundamental issues associated with the design and implementation of large scale heterogeneous networks and distributed systems. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to, the following: Quality of Service provisioning Design, implementation or architectures related to QoS-enabled networks and distributed systems Scheduling, resource management, queue management, and admission control Game-theoretic aspects in wired/peer-to-peer/overlay/wireless networks and distributed systems Incentive engineering in wired/peer-to-peer/overlay/wireless networks and distributed systems QoS routing in wired/peer-to-peer/overlay/wireless networks and distributed systems Traffic analysis, traffic engineering, and traffic shaping in heterogeneous environments Middleware for wired, peer-to-peer, overlay, and wireless networks and distributed systems QoS-aware service composition in distributed systems Security protocols and algorithms in wired, overlay and wireless networks Pricing, billing, and resource allocation in wired, overlay and wireless networks QoS adaptation, modeling and measurements Performance optimization in peer-to-peer and overlay networks Scalability of large-scale overlay and wireless networks Resilience of overlay and wireless protocols Cross-layer protocol design in wireless networks Energy-aware protocols and algorithms in wireless networks Cross-layer performance optimization for energy, network lifetime, and capacity Topology control for QoS support in wireless networks QoS in WLAN, WPAN, WMAN and WiMAX (IEEE 802.11/15/16/20) QoS support across heterogeneous wired and wireless subnetworks MAC protocols with QoS support QoS and survivability in mobile environments Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings. Papers of particular merit will be selected for consideration of fast track publication in ACM/Springer Mobile Networks and Applications (approved) or Elsevier Computer Networks (pending approval). ******* Keynote Speaker Dr. Victor Bahl, Microsoft (http://research.microsoft.com/~bahl) ******* Paper Submission QShine 2007 invites manuscripts that present original materials not previously published in, or currently under review by, another conference or journal. Submissions should be either full-length papers of up to 7 pages or short papers of up to 4 pages (including all figures and references) formatted according to http://www.acm.org/sigs/pubs/proceed/template.html with font sizes of 10 or larger. Full-length papers should report on completed work and will be considered for oral presentations. Short papers should report on work in progress or discuss open problems, and will be considered for poster presentations. A separate abstract of no longer than 200 words should be submitted as well. Submissions will be judged by their originality, significance, interest, clarity, relevance, and correctness. All papers should be electronically submitted in Adobe PDF format. Please follow the submission instructions at http://www.qshine.org/submission.html to submit your paper. ******* Important Dates Paper submission deadline: postponed to April 2, 2007 Notification of acceptance: May 11, 2007 Camera-ready papers due: May 31, 2007 Conference: August 14-17, 2007 ******* Organizing Committee General Chair Victor C. M. Leung, University of British Columbia, Canada General Vice-Chair Sastri Kota, Harris Corporation, USA Steering Committee Imrich Chlamtac, (Co-Chair) CreateNet, Italy Michael Fang, (Co-Chair) University of Florida, USA Xuemin (Sherman) Shen, (Co-Chair) University of Waterloo, Canada, Hisashi Kobayashi, Princeton University, USA Ariel Orda, Technion, Israel TPC Co-Chairs Guoliang Xue Arizona State University, USA Jelena Misic, University of Manitoba, Canada Poster Chair Ekram Hossain, University of Manitoba, Canada Publicity Chair Xi Zhang, Texas A&M University, USA Local Arrangement Chair Lin Cai, University of Victoria, Canada Workshop Chair Giovanni Giambene, Universita' degli Studi di Siena, Italy Sponsorship Chair Panos Nasiopoulos, University of British Columbia, Canada Publications Chair Qian Zhang, Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, China Finance Chair Karen Decker, ICST, USA Conference Coordination and Registration Kitti H. Kovacs, ICST, USA ========================================================================= Xi Zhang Assistant Professor Dept. of Elec. & Comput. Engin. Phone: 979-458-1416 Texas A&M University Fax: 979-845-2630 333N WERC Building Email: xizhang@ece.tamu.edu College Station, Texas 77843, USA URL http://dropzone.tamu.edu/~xizhang ========================================================================= _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 16 06:03:30 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HS9EY-0004pk-F6; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 06:00:26 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HS9EX-0004pM-GN for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 06:00:25 -0400 Received: from tamdhu.uni-trier.de ([136.199.54.243]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HS9ER-00089b-PX for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 06:00:25 -0400 Received: from notebookhannes (tamdhu.uni-trier.de [136.199.54.243]) by tamdhu.uni-trier.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4001D01EC for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:00:14 +0100 (CET) From: "Hannes Frey" To: Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:00:10 +0100 Message-ID: <002401c767b1$e28f1a50$7600a8c0@notebookhannes> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acdnsb157RzxnFn/Roq4d+6ejXpPog== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 926f893f9bbbfa169f045f85f0cdb955 Subject: [manet] Call for Papers - LOCALGOS 2007 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org = ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Our apologies if you receive duplicates of this posting. Please feel free to distribute it to those who might be interested. = ----------------------------------------------------------------------- = *********************************************************************** * CALL FOR PAPERS = * * = * * LOCALGOS 2007 = * * = * * First International Workshop on Localized Algorithms and Protocols = * * for Wireless Sensor Networks = * * http://ants.dif.um.es/localgos07 = * * = * * In conjunction with the IEEE International Conference on = * * Distributed Computing in Sensor Systems (DCOSS 2007) = * * www.dcoss.org = * * = * * June 18 - 20, 2007 = * * Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA = * * = * * Submission Deadline: March 23, 2007 = * = *********************************************************************** Wireless sensor networks consist of a large set of embedded devices each having limited computation and communication capabilities. By using = wireless multihop communication, small chunks of collected data are aggregated = and sent towards some selected data sinks. In this way individual = measurements emerge to a global picture of the entire physical phenomenon. Wireless sensor networks enable rapid deployment, require minimum maintenance = effort, and have minimum influence on the measured phenomenon. It is envisioned = that in many application scenarios sensor networks will lead us beyond the = scale, precision, and detail of what we can measure with traditional techniques today. Sensor networks may have hundreds or thousands of nodes, with limited = energy supplies and communication capabilities. Thus, it is of paramount = importance for the networking algorithms and protocols to be able to scale with a = very large number of devices. The main paradigm shift to achieve those = desirable properties is to apply localized (or greedy) schemes as opposed to = existing protocols requiring global information. Localized algorithms are = distributed algorithms where simple local node behavior achieves a desired global objective. Localized protocols provide scalable solutions, that is, solutions for wireless networks with an arbitrary number of nodes, which = is the main goal of this plan. This workshop will bring together researchers working in the field of localized algorithms and protocols for wireless sensor networks. The = main objective is on data communication, topology control, sensor coverage, = and sensor localization. Data communication problems are those in which one = or multiple sources need to send data to one or multiple destinations. They include among others, unicast and multicast routing, geocasting and data gathering. In the routing problem a path is created to allow the data = source to send packets to one (unicast) or multiple (multicast) destinations. Geocasting consist of sending a data packet to all sensor nodes within a pre-defined geographic area. In the data gathering problem, data from a = set of sensor nodes is collected and transmitted toward one or multiple (eventually mobile) base stations. Topology control algorithms and = protocols include problems such as neighbor detection, boundary detection, and = network organization problems in which a subset of the original topology = satisfying some properties is obtained. Examples of topology control problems are computation of dominating sets, planar graphs, and energy efficient sub topologies. Sensor coverage denotes the ability of a sensor network to = cover each point in a given area by a certain minimum number of sensor nodes. Localized coverage control includes energy conserving sleep cycles, and autonomous mobile sensor nodes which collaboratively move to achieve a desired area coverage. The majority of localized protocols require that nodes are aware of their physical position. In relative positioning such information is made available by means of distance measurements between neighboring nodes and triangulation, while the distance between two = neighbor nodes is estimated by measuring the received signal strength. SCOPE ----- The main objective of the workshop is to present state of the art = research results in the area of localized algorithms and protocols for wireless sensor networks. The workshop covers among others the following research topics (not limited to): - Unicast and multicast routing - Broadcasting - Energy-efficient and bandwidth-efficient communication=20 - Security in wireless sensor networks - Data management, query processing and data delivery - Topology construction and maintenance in wireless sensor networks - Localized protocols for duty-cycled sensor networks - Geocasting techniques for wireless sensor networks - Auto-configuration and network formation protocols and algorithms - Relative positioning algorithms - Lower bounds on information exchange required for localized solutions - Network graph properties supporting localized protocols - Worst and average case analysis on the deviation from optimal = solutions IMPORTANT DATES --------------- Manuscript Submission: March 23, 2007 Acceptance Notification: April 15, 2007 Final Manuscript Due: May 01, 2007 PAPER SUBMISSION ---------------- Submitted manuscripts may not exceed 12 single-spaced pages using = 12-point size font on 8.5x11 inch pages, including figures and tables. References = may be included in addition to the 12 pages. Submissions will be judged on correctness, originality, technical strength, significance, quality of presentation, and interest and relevance to the workshop attendees. Submitted papers may not have appeared in or be under consideration for another conference or a journal. Accepted papers will be published in = the workshop proceedings of the International Conference on Distributed Computing in Sensor Systems (DCOSS 2007). Please submit papers via Easy Chair by using the following URL: http://www.easychair.org/LOCALGOS07/. In case of trouble with the = submission you may send your publication by email to both program co-chairs (pedrom = at dif.um.es, frey at imada.sdu.dk). GENERAL CHAIR ------------- Ivan Stojmenovic, SITE, University of Ottawa PROGRAM CO-CHAIR ---------------- Pedro M. Ruiz Martinez, University of Murcia, Spain Hannes Frey, IMADA, University of Southern Denmark=20 PROGRAM COMMITTEE ----------------- Raffaele Bruno, IIT-CNR, Italy=20 Silvia Giordano, University of Applied Science, SUPSI, Switzerland=20 Isabelle Guerin Lassous, INRIA Rhone Alpes, France=20 Francois Ingelrest, EPFL, Lausanne, Swizerland=20 Lars M. Kristensen, University of Aarhus, Denmark=20 Thomas Kunz, Carleton University, Canada=20 Miguel A. Labrador, Univ. South Florida, USA=20 Hai Liu, SITE, University of Ottawa, Canada=20 Norbert Luttenberger, Universitat Kiel, Germany=20 Pietro Manzoni, Univ. Politecnica de Valencia, Spain=20 Mikhail Nesterenko, Kent State University, USA Luis Orozco, Univ. Castilla La Mancha, Spain=20 Josep Paradells, Technical University of Catalonia (UPC), Spain=20 Sumesh J Philip, Western Illinois University, USA S. S. Ravi, State University of New York at Albany, USA=20 Steffen Rothkugel, University of Luxemburg=20 Stefan Ruehrup, SITE, University of Ottawa, Canada=20 Gregor Schiele, Universit=E4t Mannheim _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 16 11:07:00 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSDz9-00075y-Bc; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:04:51 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSDz7-00075m-TK for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:04:49 -0400 Received: from mailservice.tudelft.nl ([130.161.131.5]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSDz3-0002tw-Bg for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:04:49 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rav.antivirus (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2DA22EEEE for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:04:39 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tudelft.nl X-Spam-Score: -4.389 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.389 tagged_above=-99 required=5 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599, PROLO_LEO3=0.01] Received: from mailservice.tudelft.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tudelft.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id qWcXxi9QPYS8 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:04:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [130.161.49.138] (ewi-49-138.ewi.tudelft.nl [130.161.49.138]) by mx2.tudelft.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0088322EEE5 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:04:37 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Jacobsson To: manet@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:04:35 +0100 Message-Id: <1174057475.26233.1.camel@ewi-49-138.ewi.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.0-1mdv2007.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cd3fc8e909678b38737fc606dec187f0 Subject: [manet] CFP: Personalized Networks'07 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Personalized Networks List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Please accept our apologies if you received multiple copies of this call for papers CALL FOR PAPERS =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 Second International Workshop on Personalized Networks http://pernets.org/ To be held in conjunction with: The 4th Annual International Conference on Mobile and Ubiquitous Systems: Networks and Services (MOBIQUITOUS 2007) August 6-10, 2007 - Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Important Dates Paper Submission Deadline: April 1, 2007 Notification of Acceptance: May 21, 2007 Camera-Ready Submissions: June 10, 2007 (Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings and the IEEE Digital Library) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Purpose of this workshop The ubiquitous nature of wireless networks has spawned many interesting applications that were unimagined hitherto. It has also brought many challenges for the communication and networking community to address. On one hand we see present day mobile devices are capable of providing many services that required several devices before. For example, most cell phones nowadays provide high speed data access, still and video cameras, PDA functionality, etc. These advances in device sophistication and service offerings, including wireless hotspots, have made a difference in the way we communicate. With increased user mobility and user's desire to always be connected, we have seen a growing interest in Personal Area Networks (PANs) and Body Area Networks (BANs). These networks can be tuned and applied meaningfully for individual users and their requirements. On the other hand the Internet has changed our way of interacting dramatically. These two major communication areas are having an in-depth influence on the way we communicate; it is worth considering them 'together' as the future communication vehicle. (Please visit http://pernets.org/ for more information and submission instructions) Scope of the submission We seek original contributions which are aimed at finding solutions to the problems that are outlined above towards realization of a Personalized Network. We have identified the following major topics under which we try to categorize the submissions. However, we will consider any other original, interesting, and imaginative ideas and thoughts towards meeting this goal of a Personalized Network. * The architectural framework of personalized networks * Context awareness and support * Resource, service and context discovery * Self-organization and adaptation * Addressing and routing * Interworking between PANs, ad hoc networks, etc, and infrastructure-based heterogeneous networks * Mobility of personalized networks * Security, privacy and accounting * Zero configuration methods and other enablers for ease-of-use * Dependability * Context-aware and application-driven communication substrates * Interactions between persons through their networks, federations of=20 such networks * Handling of QoS across heterogeneous and dynamically changing link=20 layers * New QoS concepts in personalized networks * Mapping of functional requirements to physical devices and resources * Modeling and simulation of personalized networks * P2P paradigm in personalized networks * Innovative applications or prototypes and demonstrations of such=20 person centric applications are equally valued Why should you participate in this workshop? Personalized Networks is a concrete vision of the future networks, yet very current, in the field of communications. It attracts researchers from both wired and wireless domains. This workshop is an ideal platform to share a vision of where we are heading, interact, and strongly advocate an exciting new avenue for researchers and practitioners in the field of communication. Further, the final program will consist of carefully selected - with at least three peer reviews - and high quality submissions with a large emphasis on new ideas rather than incremental contributions to the field. Submissions of shorter versions of full papers that can be submitted to other conferences/journal in the near future are discouraged. General Chairperson Ignas Niemegeers, Delft University of Technology, Netherlands Program Co-Chairpersons Sonia Heemstra de Groot, University of Twente, Netherlands Sai Shankar, Qualcomm, San Diego, USA Magda El Zarki, University of California, Irvine, USA Publicity Chairperson Paolo Bellavista, Universit=E0 degli Studi di Bologna, Italy Technical Program Committee Paolo Bellavista, Universit=E0 degli Studi di Bologna, Italy Milind M Buddhikot, Bell Laboratories, New Jersey, USA Chun-Ting Chou, Philips Research, New York, USA Carlos Cordeiro, Philips Research, New York, USA Piet Demeester, University of Ghent, Belgium Sudhir Dixit, Nokia, Boston, USA Minaxi Gupta, Indiana University, USA Carmelita G=F6rg, University of Bremen, Germany K. V. S. Hari, Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore, India Frank den Hartog, TNO, Netherlands Sonia Heemstra de Groot, TI-WMC, Netherlands Geert Heijenk, University of Twente, The Netherlands Ramin Hekmat, Delft University of Technology, Netherlands James Irvine, Strathclyde University, Scotland H. S. Jamadagni, Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore, India Ern=F6 Kovacs, NEC Europe, Heidelberg, Germany Anup Kumar, University of Louisville, Kentucky, USA Joy Kuri, Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore, India Guy Leduc, Universite de Liege, Belgium Anthony Lo, Delft University of Technology, Netherlands Ingrid Moerman, University of Ghent, Belgium Luis Mu=F1oz, University of Cantabria, Spain Ignas Niemegeers, Delft University of Technology, Netherlands Giovanni Pau, University of California Los Angeles, USA Jorge Pereira, European Commission, Brussels, Belgium Neeli Prasad, University of Aalborg, Denmark Ramjee Prasad, University of Aalborg, Denmark Tarek Saadawi, City University of New York, USA Paolo Santi, CNR Institute for Informatics and Telematics, Italy Amardeo Sarma, NEC Network Laboratories, Germany Sai Shankar, Qualcomm, San Diego, USA Sirin Tekinay, New Jersey Institute of Technology, New Jersey, USA Magda El Zarki, University of California, Irvine, USA Djamal Zeglache, INT, Paris, France _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From pollyii@aol.com Fri Mar 16 12:23:19 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSFD5-00065S-Fb for manet-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:23:19 -0400 Received: from 232.red-80-35-214.staticip.rima-tde.net ([80.35.214.232] helo=[172.72.72.2]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSFD4-0003rh-4m for manet-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:23:19 -0400 Received: from no.name.available by [172.72.72.2] via smtpd (for stiedprmail1.ietf.ORG [156.154.16.150]) with SMTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:21:53 +0100 From: pollyii@aol.com To: manet-archive@lists.ietf.org Subject: RETURNED MAIL: SEE TRANSCRIPT FOR DETAILS Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:22:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_68D477AA.1DBA3078" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 3.6 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: b19722fc8d3865b147c75ae2495625f2 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_68D477AA.1DBA3078 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear user of lists.ietf.org, We have detected that your account was used to send a large amount of spam messages during the recent week. 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( [212.47.23.197]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id o24sm5147313ugd.2007.03.17.09.26.35; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 09:26:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20070308145707.GA7141@rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <20070308145707.GA7141@rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2B7A01D1-7EE5-4EE6-9A0D-66014EEC7AFA@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ian Chakeres Subject: Re: [manet] Dymo routing information usefulness Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 17:12:16 -0700 To: Henner Jakob X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Scan-Signature: 244a2fd369eaf00ce6820a760a3de2e8 Cc: manet@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Please see the new text I proposed for Inferior in my post with title "Re: [manet] Dymo hopcount update implementation question." on March 6th. - I'll forward it to you too. Does this new text and pseudo-code solve the issue you presented? Ian On Mar 8, 2007, at 6:57 AM, Henner Jakob wrote: > Hello, > > at the moment I am creating testcases to test my update function > for the dymo routing table. > Doing this, I encountered some problems. > In the case, that we have an existing route with a high hopcount, > we will not update our table if we receive a route reply with the > same sequence number and a much lower hop count. > According to the draft, information from route replies is inferior > if the sequence number is smaller OR the sequence number is equal > AND the route is not broken AND the hopcount is not more than 1 > hop greater. > So, if we receive a route reply where the sequence numbers are > equal, the route is not broken and the hop count is 3 hops smaller > than the current route hop count, we should update the routing table. > According to the current check, it only updates after receiving a > route reply with higher sequence number(ok) or same sequence number > (ok) AND hopcount is not more than 1 hop greater (I dont like this, > the route shouldn't be longer)) AND route is broken(not ok, we > can't improve 'not broken' routes with better information from rreps). > > With the new idea of not always incrementing the own sequence > number after creating a route reply, it is possible, that a node > creates a second route reply, with the same sequence number and a > much lower hopcount which will not be used by the source node. > > Some additional thougths on this: > - if we have a broken route...a valid route with same hops and same > sequence number should be superior. At the moment it is not, but > somehow it sounds logic to me. > > - if route requests for a broken route are received, with same hop > and same sequence number, the route table should be updated. > > maybe the superior check should look like: > > (Node.SeqNum - Route.SeqNum > 0) OR > ((Node.SeqNum == Route.Seqnum) > AND ((Node.HopCnt <= Route.HopCnt) AND (Route.Broken == true)) > OR ((Route.Broken == false) > AND ((Node.HopCnt < Route.HopCnt) AND (RM is RREQ)) > OR ((Node.HopCnt < Route.HopCnt + 1 ) AND (RM is RREP)))) > > Maybe my thougths are flawed, but I hope it helps. > > regards, > Henner Jakob > -- > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Sat Mar 17 15:54:56 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSewi-00066Z-1p; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:52:08 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSewg-00066F-Qu for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:52:06 -0400 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.241]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSewf-0005Gy-Kt for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:52:06 -0400 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d30so909265and for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:52:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=hPW5AiprroyK2qWqAVzq2LSE4vsvoKQz+vJPRO41hg98WKrWGgwCfwTOWWGENmhmASvCc/5fk1x8rlqvZrVfVDNJ8nzrQzZ01U45fvzbJKlEsxfsYqEQTsu5k/QnOUbNx0c/gMKfkoCdvekf2Nsl1lxhxE0atQT3E9ytZ/EjuEI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=lAKvDTmjBGleQViVMIZad2ixCfN+MrFeIgAUK2aQx3T00X8OVDNXR2+rjG0Xrz+5JyVA6wP9WIuens0bPbo2oax+imFCZ+Ev40kMOD6OwC/N/xYnvKUkYDuXYj7gCMpdREYg79EZvapBF/1pOErEOTHUqjB7l5T1bImcr6yzTsM= Received: by 10.100.177.16 with SMTP id z16mr2494215ane.1174161125345; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.46.12 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:52:00 +0100 From: "Usman Javaid" To: manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Number of hops - Data Packet MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0778857625==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============0778857625== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_85721_13457706.1174161120306" ------=_Part_85721_13457706.1174161120306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear All, Do we have any information field in the data packet traversing 802.11, which tells how many hops the packet has travelled since it was transmitted by its actual source ? My quesiton is in reference to NS-2 in multihope networks. Thanks for your help. Regards, Usman Javaid ------=_Part_85721_13457706.1174161120306 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear All,

Do we have any information field in the data packet traversing 802.11, which tells how many hops the packet has travelled since it was transmitted by its actual source ? My quesiton is in reference to NS-2 in multihope networks.

Thanks for your help.

Regards,

Usman Javaid
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(Deadline fast approaching) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org *Sorry for receiving multiple copies* Call For Papers for IWCMC 2007: Deadline is fast approaching _____________________ IWCMC 2007 (http://dropzone.tamu.edu/~xizhang/IWCMC07/IWCMC07.htm) August 12-16, 2007, Honolulu, Hawaii, USA Technical Sponsors: ACM (Approved) and IEEE (Pending) Submissions: EDAS (open now) "The Future is Now -- The New Era of Wireless Communications and Mobile Computing/Networking" The International Wireless Communications and Mobile Computing Conference 2007 (IWCMC 2007) will be held in Turtle Bay Resort Hotel, Honolulu, Hawaii, USA during August 12-16, 2007. 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Phone: 979-458-1416 Texas A&M University Fax: 979-845-2630 333N WERC Building Email: xizhang@ece.tamu.edu College Station, Texas 77843, USA URL http://dropzone.tamu.edu/~xizhang ========================================================================= _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Sat Mar 17 19:35:11 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSiNQ-0003jb-2C; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:31:56 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSiNO-0003jK-H8 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:31:54 -0400 Received: from ece.uprm.edu ([136.145.57.24]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSiNI-0000FN-U6 for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:31:54 -0400 Received: from kejielupc (perazzamac2.ece.uprm.edu [136.145.57.158]) by ece.uprm.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F6BB5557A for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:31:40 -0400 (AST) Organization: UPR-Mayaguez Message-ID: <51f500e5197cee8eba78bd4300134c5d@ece.uprm.edu> From: "Kejie Lu" To: Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:31:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2e8fc473f5174be667965460bd5288ba Subject: [manet] CFP MILCOM 2007 (Abstracts Due on Mar. 30) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lukejie@ece.uprm.edu List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org ** Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this message ** ** The deadline for submitting abstracts is 30 March 2007 (hard deadline) ** ** The link for submitting the unclassified papers is: = https://wams.jspargo.com/milcom07/login.asp ** =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D CALL for PAPERS MILCOM 2007 October 29=9631, 2007 Gaylord Palms Convention Center Orlando, Florida USA Conference Theme:=20 Interoperability: Policy to Performance MILCOM 2007 is soliciting both unclassified and classified papers (up to = DoD Secret) relevant to communications and information processing system = technologies and capabilities that address the 21st century challenges of = National Defense, Homeland Security, Disaster Response and = Interoperability. Industry, academic, and government organizations from = both the U.S. and countries around the globe are invited and encouraged to = participate=2E Important Dates: Abstracts Due: 30 March 2007 Draft Papers Due: 20 April 2007 Author Notification: 25 May 2007 Final Camera Ready Papers Due: 6 July 2007 Suggested technical areas of general interest include but are not limited to: =95 Interoperability =96 Policies and Standards =96 DoD and Federal Agencies =96 State and Local Governments =96 Emergency Grid Communications =96 Coalition Partners =96 Disaster Response =95 Service Oriented Architectures =95 Advanced Communications Technologies =95 Network Management =95 Mobile and Wireless Technologies =95 Radio Systems and Technologies =95 Network Centric Systems and Technologies =95 Applications and Operational Concepts =95 Systems, Programs and Initiatives =95 Information Management and Dissemination =95 Digital Signal Processing =95 Coding =95 Modulation =95 Advanced Waveforms =95 Next Generation Networks and Systems =95 Internet Protocols =95 Link Layer and Cross-Layer Protocols =95 Network Architectures and Routing =95 Transport Protocols and Performance =95 Quality of Service Architectures =95 Design Modeling and Simulation =95 Digital Video Broadcasting and Standards =95 IF/RF Technologies and Techniques =95 Advanced SATCOM systems =95 Airborne Technologies =95 Standards Based Datalinks =95 Mobile Satellite Systems =95 Space Networks and Protocols =95 Wireless Communications =95 Mobile Ad Hoc Networks =95 Computer and Network Security Systems =95 Software Defined Radios and Cognitive Radios =95 Sensor Networks =95 Advanced Antenna Technologies =95 Laser Communications and Optical Networks =95 Tests and Measurements =95 Ultra Wideband =95 Multimedia Communications and Management Technical Program Committee Technical Program Chair Dr. Vitas Mikenas Harris Corporation 321-729-7748 mikenas.milcom2007@harris.com Unclassified Program Chair Dr. Sastri Kota Harris Corporation 408-990-8301 kota.milcom2007@harris.com Classified Program Chair Terry Casto Harris Corporation 321-984-5600 casto.milcom2007@harris.com Panels Program Chair Leo deCardenas Harris Corporation 321-727-6202 decardenas.milcom2007@harris.com Tutorial Program Chair Rich Folio Harris Corporation 321-729-3629 folio.milcom2007@harris.com Unclassified Technical Program Submission Process:=20 The Web-based Abstract Management System (WAMS) (www.milcom.org) is used = to submit abstracts, full papers, and final camera ready papers. During = the abstract submission process, author and password information will need = to be entered and a Paper ID# will be assigned. This Paper ID# and = password will be used to upload papers. The abstract must NOT contain any = ITAR-related, classified, or proprietary information=2E Abstracts will only be used to help define the sessions. The Unclassified = Author=92s Kit provides instructions to authors for preparation of the = full and final manuscripts and the required forms. Full papers will be = reviewed for acceptance only when all appropriate forms have been = completed and received=2E Classified Technical Program Submission Process: All persons wishing to attend and/or participate in the Classified = Technical Program must, at a minimum, possess a current Secret personnel = security clearance and be a U.S. citizen. Non-U.S. originated papers will = NOT be accepted for the Classified Technical Program. All abstracts for = the Classified Technical Program must be unclassified. Please submit a = title and a brief unclassified abstract (up to 2000 characters) of your = intended paper via email to: casto.milcom2007@harris.com. Each submission = requires author name, affiliation, citizenship, address, phone and fax = numbers, email address, and the applicable area. For papers with more than = one author, indicate the point of contact. Do NOT use WAMS to submit = abstracts, full papers, or the final papers for the Classified Technical = Program. All papers for the Classified Technical Program must be prepared = following the instructions and formatting guidelines in the Classified = Author=92s Kit=2E Proposals for Tutorials and Panels:=20 MILCOM 2007 solicits proposals for unclassified half-day tutorials, and = unclassified and classified panels on state-of-the art communications, = networking, and interoperability technologies. The tutorial proposals = should include a brief outline of the tutorial, instructor biography, and = relevant instructor experience. The Unclassified Tutorials Kit provides the applicable forms and the formatting guidelines for the = tutorial material. Please forward your proposals to the MILCOM 2007 = Tutorial Program Chair, Rich Folio, at folio.milcom2007@harris.com=2E Proposals for Panels:=20 The proposals for panels should include a brief outline of the panel = discussion topics, panel participants, and panel moderator along with = their bios. A Panels Kit provides the information about the applicable = forms and the guidelines for the preparation of the panel material. Please = forward your proposals to the MILCOM 2007 Panels Program Chair, Leo = deCardenas, at decardenas.milcom2007@harris.com=2E Tutorials and Panels Important Dates: Proposals Due: 16 March 2007 Notification: 20 April 2007 Material Due: 13 July 2007 For further details and information about MILCOM 2007 please visit = www.milcom.org. _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Sun Mar 18 01:30:01 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSnub-00073s-VF; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 01:26:33 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSnua-00073k-Tp for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 01:26:32 -0400 Received: from web33511.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.160]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSnuT-0003hI-6m for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 01:26:32 -0400 Received: (qmail 57879 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Mar 2007 05:26:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ebUuOfuREaLPzPJxJSkij2iDU45KRnvl2UwrFLho8RERkfuOugYgrglriMs7GWtt37Rx7Qdo5hixgLjMNKZGKYg7zgeWC5XIpeEc2arJgGEuHzZH73rz+od5Nhql61zTqkICwbMWG01jYmGqhewu+OBdTQbViqWaiB8qJps/XPA=; X-YMail-OSG: 1Bib7icVM1mLJk9EynB7kTtONVqR1WUq8YD5bCuKb87Af28Ibkyez17ZlH5sLOYS3tY8hqSG3_fqbDAMgla6kiBmpc9qQ.sqJg4AZ5tPNU74ngBVNM255DatSN1yxM_egnYUz1x.kNGYaRM- Received: from [130.160.46.125] by web33511.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:26:24 PDT Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:26:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Yang Xiao To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <605460.57220.qm@web33511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0a7aa2e6e558383d84476dc338324fab Subject: [manet] Journal Special Issue on Wireless Telemedicine and Applications (EURASIP Journal on Wireless Communications and Networking) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yangxiao@ieee.org List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Journal Special Issue on Wireless Telemedicine and Applications (EURASIP Journal on Wireless Communications and Networking) http://www.hindawi.com/journals/wcn/si/telemed.html Wireless Telemedicine and Applications Call for Papers Wireless telemedicine, a growing new interdisciplinary field, calls for innovation in information and communications technology for facilitating reliable, comprehensive, and quality clinical care service at a distance. It will eventually contribute to improving the quality of healthcare of everyone. Though advances in wireless communications and networking are vital to deliver telemedicine services, they also face great challenges, for example the failure delivery of a service may end up with loss of human lives. This is the motivation behind this special issue. This special issue focuses on the novel and practical ways, but solid contributions, to improve wireless telemedicine and applications. Papers that do not focus on wireless telemedicine and applications will not be reviewed. Specific interests are (but not limited to) in the following areas: Network architectures for wireless telemedicine Mobile service platform for continuity of healthcare Complexity of wireless telemedicine systems New sensor and medical RFID technologies Network privacy and security in healthcare Wireless network research issues to support healthcare Wireless telemedicine applications Electromagnetic interference issues Signal processing techniques in wireless telemedicine systems Authors should follow the EURASIP Journal on Wireless Communications and Networking manuscript format described at the journal site http://www.hindawi.com/journals/wcn/. Prospective authors should submit an electronic copy of their complete manuscript through the EURASIP Journal on Wireless Communications and Networking's Manuscript Tracking System at http://www.hindawi.com/mts/, according to the following timetable. Manuscript Due June 1, 2007 First Round of Reviews September 1, 2007 Publication Date December 1, 2007 Guest Editors: Yang Xiao, Department of Computer Science, University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa, AL 35487-0290, USA Yi-Bing Lin, Department of Computer Science and Information Engineering, National Chiao Tung University, 30050 Hsinchu, Taiwan Ding-Zhu Du, Department of Computer Science, University of Texas at Dallas, Richardson, TX 75083, USA Hui Chen, AutoZone, Inc., IT Department, Memphis, TN 38103, USA _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Sun Mar 18 01:35:27 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSo2l-00061z-5f; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 01:34:59 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSo2i-00061e-Fl for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 01:34:56 -0400 Received: from web33510.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.159]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSo2g-0004hb-2y for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 01:34:56 -0400 Received: (qmail 13873 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Mar 2007 05:34:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=yFYkXAB2gQzRd1AfuSEkoIMtmB5aIA3tWhRvIiBTrBYDMZoBlJvtateoVN4wEHrrVfuvT0k/BiS+Tso37/PlxDcbSqcYSDsPQPQKcnO4yuu5waCmkaW0CiyOtf24EGmlfoHoRjQXK84TXlDI6xNe4FDHeBnsxK31LIZP1fITvHg=; X-YMail-OSG: axlKPmgVM1lM0sdjxTNxUko7.MK4vvFYrP1.OvPalMuq1C0MeyucYxBr_WtYyahfVnCllOkBU5dH7z1oRH0u4YpvtC8Q7fTQChVEUEsiofKttzk9u0yKw6IYRNVrSLCotvRuhfiUOjVrZYY- Received: from [130.160.46.125] by web33510.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:34:53 PDT Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:34:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Yang Xiao To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <466210.13857.qm@web33510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a7d2e37451f7f22841e3b6f40c67db0f Subject: [manet] CFP for International Journal of Telemedicine and Applications X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yangxiao@ieee.org List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org International Journal of Telemedicine and Applications ISSN: 1687-6415 CFP Home page: ---------- http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijta/ Author info: ------------ http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijta/guidelines.html Timeline: --------- Open Calls for papers and special issue proposals: ----------------- Both special issue proposals and papers are open for submission. Scope: ------ The overall aim of the International Journal of Telemedicine and Applications is to bring together science and applications of medical practice and medical care at a distance as well as their supporting technologies such as, computing, communications, and networking technologies with emphasis on telemedicine techniques and telemedicine applications. It is directed at practicing engineers, academic researchers, as well as doctors, nurses, etc. Telemedicine is an information technology that enables doctors to perform medical consultations, diagnoses, and treatments, as well as medical education, away from patients. For example, doctors can remotely examine patients via remote viewing monitors and sound devices, and/or sampling physiological data using telecommunication. Telemedicine technology is applied to areas of emergency healthcare, videoconsulting, telecardiology, telepathology, teledermatology, teleophthalmology, teleoncology, telepsychiatry, teledentistry, etc. International Journal of Telemedicine and Applications will highlight the continued growth and new challenges in telemedicine, applications, and their supporting technologies, for both application development and basic research. Papers should emphasize original results or case studies relating to the theory and/or applications of telemedicine. Tutorial papers, especially those emphasizing multidisciplinary views of telemedicine, are also welcome. International Journal of Telemedicine and Applications employs a paperless, electronic submission and evaluation system to promote a rapid turnaround in the peer-review process. Specific interests are (but not limited to) in the following areas: Telemedicine Supporting Technologies: Network architectures for telemedicine Wireless Telemedicine Mobile service platform for continuity of healthcare Complexity of telemedicine systems New sensor and medical RFID technologies Network/Data privacy and security in healthcare Network research issues to support healthcare Computing issues to support healthcare Multimedia (video and voice) for telemedicine Wireless telemedicine applications Electromagnetic interference issues Signal processing techniques in wired/wireless telemedicine systems Interactive audiovisual and data communications Telemedicine devices and peripherals Database technologies for telemedicine Standard Efforts for telemedicine Tools and platforms for telemedicine Legal and ethical issues for telemedicine Quality of Telemedicine Telemedicine sites experiences Quality assessment and cataloguing for telemedicine application E-nabled Access Telemedicine applications: Emergency healthcare Videoconsulting, telecardiology, telepathology, teledermatology, teleophthalmology, teleoncology, telepsychiatry, and teledentistry Distance Learning Medical care delivery, diagnosis, consultation and treatment at a distance Medical education and the transfer of medical data Nursing homes or retirement centers Home monitoring for patients Healthcare in the aftermath of disasters International Journal of Telemedicine and Applications publishes two types of issues: regular issues and special issues. Regular issues publish collections of papers without special solicitation. Special issues feature specifically aimed and targeted topics of interest contributed by authors responding to a particular Call-for-Papers or by invitation, edited by invited Guest Editor(s). Regular papers can be submitted at any time, while special issue papers can be submitted only based on planned schedules and submission guidelines of the Call-for-Papers. Proposals for special issues can be submitted directly to the Editor-in-Chief. _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Sun Mar 18 09:16:49 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSvD7-0007mx-4a; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:14:09 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSvD5-0007ms-4H for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:14:07 -0400 Received: from mail.unilim.fr ([164.81.1.45] helo=smtp.unilim.fr) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSvD3-0000ij-KJ for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:14:07 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([84.5.72.27]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.unilim.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2IDDe4g004477 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:13:41 +0100 Message-ID: <45FD3B03.2060600@xlim.fr> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:13:39 +0100 From: Damien Sauveron User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: manet@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Univ-Limoges-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.unilim.fr [164.81.1.45]); Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:13:41 +0100 (CET) X-Univ-Limoges-MailScanner-Information: Serveur Anti-virus Please contact the SCI, Univ. of Limoges, for more information X-Univ-Limoges-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Univ-Limoges-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (cached, score=-102.9, requis 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_05 -1.11, NO_RDNS2 0.01, SMTP_AUTH -100.00) X-Univ-Limoges-MailScanner-Envelope-From: damien.sauveron@xlim.fr X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 21be852dc93f0971708678c18d38c096 Subject: [manet] [WISTP'2007] First Call For Participation X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org ******************************************************************* We apologize in advance if you receive multiple copies of this CFP. Please disseminate it to your colleagues that could be interested. ******************************************************************* Workshop in Information Security Theory and Practices 2007: Smart Cards, Mobile and Ubiquitous Computing Systems && A networking meeting to discuss proposals for the EU FP7 Heraklion, Crete, Greece May 8-11, 2007 Workshop URL: http://wistp2007.xlim.fr/ Preliminary Program: http://wistp2007.xlim.fr/CFP.html#Preliminary_program We are pleased to announce that Prof. Jean-Pierre Hubaux (LCA, EPFL, Switzerland), Prof. Fred Piper (Information Security Group, Royal Holloway University of London, UK), Caspar Bowden (Chief Privacy Advisor EMEA -- Microsoft, UK), Patrick Waters (Head of Research and Development in the Netherlands for Vodafone Group, NL) and two other speakers (to be announced) will deliver keynote speeches. http://wistp2007.xlim.fr/CFP.html#Keynote_Speakers Regarding venue, hotel arrangement, workshop registration and visa request, please visit http://wistp2007.xlim.fr/ for details. http://wistp2007.xlim.fr/CFP/Registration_form.pdf http://wistp2007.xlim.fr/CFP/venue_acc.html Proceedings will be published by Springer LNCS. ******************************************************* WISTP'2007 is: - Co-Sponsored by IFIP TC6 Communications Systems - Co-Sponsored by IFIP WG 8.8 Smart Cards - Co-Sponsored by IFIP WG 11.2 Small System Security - Co-Sponsored by The British Computer Society - In Cooperation with the IEEE Computer Society, Technical Committee on Security and Privacy (TCSP) - In Cooperation with the IEEE Computer Society, Task Force on Information Assurance (TFIA) - In Cooperation with the IEEE Systems, Man, and Cybernetics Society, Technical Committee on Information Assurance & Intelligent Multimedia-Mobile Communications - In Cooperation with the IEEE Systems, Man, and Cybernetics Society, Technical Committee on Systems Safety and Security - In Cooperation with the IEEE Vehicular Technology Society - Supported by the IEEE Region 8 - Supported by the IEEE France Section - Supported by the IEEE UKRI Section & by the IEEE UKRI Section - Computer Society Chapter - Supported by the IEEE Greece Section - Communications Society & Computer Society & VT&AESS Chapters - Supported by the ERCIM - Supported by ACM Special Interest Group on Security, Audit and Control (SIGSAC) - Supported by the EuroSys (European ACM SIGOPS Chapter) - Supported by the ASF (French ACM SIGOPS Chapter) - Supported by the Greek Computer Society - Supported by the ASTI - Supported by the Institute for Systems and Technologies of Information, Control and Communication (INSTICC) - Supported by the SEE - Supported by the GDR CNRS ASR - Supported by the VDE ITG - Supported by the Network of Excellence Euro-NGI - Supported by the European Workshop on Industrial Computer Systems, Technical Committee 7, Safety, Reliability and Security ******************************************************* WISTP2007 Background and Goals: With the rapid technological development of information technologies, computer systems and especially embedded systems are becoming more mobile and ubiquitous, increasingly interfacing with the physical world. Ensuring the security of these complex and yet, resource constraint systems has emerged as one of the most pressing challenges. The aim of this first workshop is to bring together researchers and practitioners in related areas and to encourage interchange and cooperation between the research community and the industrial/consumer community. The workshop will consist of technical paper presentations, one special session for student papers and five invited talks. To contribute to the structuring of the community, a networking meeting to discuss EU FP7 projects proposals will take place just after the workshop. ******************************************************* Topics of interest include, but are not limited to: A. Smart Cards and Trusted Devices Security * Biometrics, National ID cards * Embedded Systems Security and TPMs * Interplay of TPMs and Smart Cards * New Applications for Secure RFID Systems * RFID Systems Security * Smart Card Security * Smart Card Applications B. Ad Hoc and Mobile Networks Security * Ad Hoc Networks Security * Delay-Tolerant Network Security * Domestic Network Security * Mobile Codes Security * Mobile Devices Security * Security Issues in Mobile and Ubiquitous Networks * Security of GSM/GPRS/UMTS Systems * Sensor Networks Security * Vehicular Network Security * Wireless Communication Security (WiFi, WiMAX, WiMedia, others) C. Ubiquitous Computing Systems Security * Distributed Systems Security * Grid Computing Security * Intrusion Detection and Information Filtering * Peer-to-Peer Networks Security D. Security Protocols, Policies and Management for Mobility * Critical Infrastructure (e.g. for Medical or Military Applications) Security * Digital Rights Management (DRM) * Industrial and Multimedia Applications * Information Assurance * Localization Systems Security (Tracking of People and Goods) * New Applications of Secure Systems * Public Administration and Governmental Services * Security Models and Architecture * Security Policies (Human-Computer Interaction and Human Behavior Impact) * Security Protocols (for Identification and Authentication, Confidentiality and Privacy, and Integrity) * Security Measurements * Trust Management ******************************************************* Opportunities for students: To help the students looking for a PhD thesis or a postdoctoral position, we will propose them to add a colorized sticker on their badge. In the same way, we will propose to persons offering these positions to add a sticker with a different color. We hope this mechanism will help to support the exchanges between young and senior researchers. ******************************************************* Thanks to our main sponsors: http://wistp2007.xlim.fr/CFP.html#Main_sponsors Crisp Telecom Eurosmart Elopsys Limousin Expansion Nokia Vodafone WILEY ******************************************************* We hope you will be interested by this event. 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For further inquiries, please contact the secretariat at wistp2007sec@xlim.fr Best regards, -- Damien Sauveron _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Sun Mar 18 13:43:21 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSzKd-0005kZ-Fk; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:38:11 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSzKb-0005kT-4l for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:38:09 -0400 Received: from web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.39.130]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HSzKV-0000Ds-M5 for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:38:09 -0400 Received: (qmail 70817 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Mar 2007 17:38:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=0+ZLbRQZ3tgjqhJ+u2U2wLGMpx3IwNRR4Cpu8BhGv5/hqId4AiJNNv7P5SELe0rHnLrVnmXTZaBB7PeuBIrgWXc7uprzaISI39b5Zv8d8mdCELKSScy+qAMFxaVc8V6WW9My3m74SS7quQxqLVElGAT34f9NO0ta5845eVmd/8Q=; X-YMail-OSG: 0KHce2UVM1l1BCIVxYDldIBgQ3cTMBDBXYh0L9xWQFfCOJbYNFlPO7AMEjEoHbeoNw-- Received: from [62.135.73.121] by web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:38:01 PDT Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:38:01 -0700 (PDT) From: AHMED SALAH To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <489197.70129.qm@web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Scan-Signature: d008c19e97860b8641c1851f84665a75 Subject: [manet] geocast routing protocol (gamer,geogride,lbm) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0877292878==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============0877292878== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1088677621-1174239481=:70129" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --0-1088677621-1174239481=:70129 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello all, Nice to meet you all! I am researching for the geocast routing protocol (gamer,geogride,lbm). And I am trying to run source code for ns2 but I have got the folowing erro message can any body help me to correct the error ********************************************************************** the new error message is [root@localhost ns-allinone-2.1b7a]# cd ns-2.1b7a [root@localhost ns-2.1b7a]# cd gamer [root@localhost gamer]# ns actGamer_study1.tcl 30 mob30-1 setting other default settings... num_nodes is set 30 creating channel... invalid command name "Mac/NULL" while executing "Mac/NULL create _o19 " invoked from within "catch "$className create $o $args" msg" (procedure "new" line 3) invoked from within "new $mactype" (procedure "_o14" line 10) (Node/MobileNode add-interface line 10) invoked from within "$node add-interface $chan $propInstance_ $llType_ $macType_ $ifqType_ $ifqlen_ $phyType_ $antType_" (procedure "_o3" line 46) (Simulator create-wireless-node line 46) invoked from within "_o3 create-wireless-node" ("eval" body line 1) invoked from within "eval $self create-wireless-node $args" (procedure "_o3" line 14) (Simulator node line 14) invoked from within "$ns_ node" ("for" body line 2) invoked from within "for {set i 0} {$i <= $val(nn) } {incr i} { set node_($i) [$ns_ node] $node_($i) random-motion 0 ;# disable random motion }" (file "actGamer_study1.tcl" line 129) ********************************************************************** *** [root@localhost gamer]# cd .. [root@localhost ns-2.1b7a]# cd lbm [root@localhost lbm]# ns box_study1.tcl 30 mob30-1 setting other default settings... removing unecessary packet headers... num_nodes is set 30 creating channel... invalid command name "Mac/NULL" while executing "Mac/NULL create _o19 " invoked from within "catch "$className create $o $args" msg" (procedure "new" line 3) invoked from within "new $mactype" (procedure "_o14" line 10) (Node/MobileNode add-interface line 10) invoked from within "$node add-interface $chan $propInstance_ $llType_ $macType_ $ifqType_ $ifqlen_ $phyType_ $antType_" (procedure "_o3" line 46) (Simulator create-wireless-node line 46) invoked from within "_o3 create-wireless-node" ("eval" body line 1) invoked from within "eval $self create-wireless-node $args" (procedure "_o3" line 14) (Simulator node line 14) invoked from within "$ns_ node" ("for" body line 2) invoked from within "for {set i 0} {$i <= $val(nn) } {incr i} { set node_($i) [$ns_ node] $node_($i) random-motion 0 ;# disable random motion }" (file "box_study1.tcl" line 130) ********************************************************************** ************ [root@localhost lbm]# cd .. [root@localhost ns-2.1b7a]# cd geogride bash: cd: geogride: No such file or directory [ root@localhost ns-2.1b7a]# cd geogrid [root@localhost geogrid]# ns run_study1.tcl 30 mob30-1 invalid command name "Agent/GeoGRID" while executing "Agent/GeoGRID instproc sendMulticastData {minExtX minExtY maxExtX maxExtY size {forwardMethod ""}} { set ns [Simulator instance] ;# Figure out ..." (file "sendmulticastdata.tcl" line 38) invoked from within "source.orig sendmulticastdata.tcl" ("uplevel" body line 1) invoked from within "uplevel source.orig $fileName" (procedure "source" line 12) invoked from within "source sendmulticastdata.tcl" (file "run_study1.tcl" line 25) [root@localhost geogrid]# Thanks in advance. Regards, ahmad --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. --0-1088677621-1174239481=:70129 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hello all,

 Nice to meet you all!
I am researching for the geocast routing protocol  (gamer,geogride,lbm). And I am 
trying to run source code for ns2  but I have got the folowing erro message
 
can any body help me to correct the error

********************************************************************** 
the new error message is


[root@localhost ns-allinone-2.1b7a]# cd ns-2.1b7a



[root@localhost ns-2.1b7a]# cd gamer



[root@localhost gamer]# ns actGamer_study1.tcl 30  mob30-1

setting other default
settings...

num_nodes is set 30

creating channel...

invalid command name "Mac/NULL"

while executing
"Mac/NULL create _o19 "

invoked from within
"catch "$className create $o $args" msg"

(procedure "new" line 3)

invoked from within
"new $mactype"

(procedure "_o14" line 10)

(Node/MobileNode add-interface line 10)

invoked from within
"$node add-interface $chan $propInstance_ $llType_ $macType_   $ifqType_ $ifqlen_ $phyType_ $antType_"

(procedure "_o3" line 46)

(Simulator create-wireless-node line 46)

invoked from within
"_o3 create-wireless-node"

("eval" body line 1)

invoked from within
"eval $self create-wireless-node $args"

(procedure "_o3" line 14)

(Simulator node line 14)

   invoked from within
"$ns_ node"

("for" body line 2)


invoked from within
"for {set i 0} {$i <= $val(nn) } {incr i} {
set node_($i) [$ns_ node]
$node_($i)

random-motion 0           ;# disable random motion
}"

(file "actGamer_study1.tcl" line 129)

********************************************************************** ***



[root@localhost gamer]# cd ..

[root@localhost ns-2.1b7a]# cd lbm

[root@localhost lbm]# ns box_study1.tcl 30 mob30-1

setting other default
settings...
removing unecessary packet headers...

num_nodes is set 30
creating channel...

invalid command name "Mac/NULL"

while executing
"Mac/NULL create _o19 "

invoked from within
"catch "$className create $o $args" msg"

(procedure "new" line 3)

invoked from within
"new $mactype"

  (procedure "_o14" line 10)

(Node/MobileNode add-interface line 10)


  invoked from within
"$node add-interface $chan $propInstance_ $llType_ $macType_   $ifqType_ $ifqlen_ $phyType_ $antType_"

(procedure "_o3" line 46)

(Simulator create-wireless-node line 46)


  invoked from within
"_o3 create-wireless-node"

("eval" body line 1)

invoked from within
"eval $self create-wireless-node $args"

(procedure "_o3" line 14)

(Simulator node line 14)

invoked from within
"$ns_ node"

("for" body line 2)

invoked from within
"for {set i 0} {$i <= $val(nn) } {incr i} {
set node_($i) [$ns_ node]
$node_($i) random-motion 0
     ;# disable random motion
}"

(file "box_study1.tcl" line 130)



********************************************************************** ************

[root@localhost lbm]# cd  ..

[root@localhost ns-2.1b7a]# cd geogride

bash: cd: geogride: No such file or directory
[
root@localhost ns-2.1b7a]# cd geogrid

[root@localhost geogrid]# ns run_study1.tcl 30 mob30-1

invalid command name "Agent/GeoGRID"

while executing
"Agent/GeoGRID instproc sendMulticastData
{minExtX minExtY maxExtX maxExtY size {forwardMethod ""}} {
   set ns [Simulator instance]    ;# Figure out ..."

(file "sendmulticastdata.tcl" line 38)

invoked from within
"source.orig sendmulticastdata.tcl"

   ("uplevel" body line 1)

invoked from within
"uplevel source.orig $fileName"

  (procedure "source" line 12)

invoked from within
"source sendmulticastdata.tcl"

(file "run_study1.tcl" line 25)

[root@localhost geogrid]#

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
ahmad

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hi,
 
I am new to 802.15.4. I would like to know, for the destination address field (DstAddr) in transmitted Data packet in 802.15.4, can it be used as a broadcast address?
 
For example, suppose that we have one wireless sensor network. Node A has four neighbors, 1, 2, 3, and 4. Can node A  broadcast one packet so 1, 2, 3, ad 4 all receive this packet?
 
Thanks,
 
Chris

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August 25-31, 2007 - Cap Esterel, French Riviera, France Please forward the Call for Submissions to the appropriate groups =============================== CALL FOR PAPERS, PANELS, TUTORIALS ICSEA 2007, The Second International Conference on Software Engineering Advances Site: http://www.iaria.org/conferences2007/ICSEA07.html ICSNC 2007, The Second International Conference on Systems and Networks Communications Site: http://www.iaria.org/conferences2007/ICSNC07.html _____________________________________ ________________________________ Important deadlines: Submission deadline March 25, 2007 Notification of acceptance May 15, 2007 Registration/camera ready June 1, 2007 ______________________________________________________________ Featuring the workshops: - IRP 2007, The First International Workshop on Improving Research Productivity in Computing http://www.iaria.org/conferences2007/IRP.html - HPC-Bio 2007: The First International Workshop on High Performance Computing Applied to Medical Data and Bioinformatics http://www.iaria.org/conferences2007/HPCBio.html ______________________________________________________________ Conference Topics: ICSEA Tracks (details in the CfP on site) Advances in fundamentals for software development Advanced mechanisms for software development Advanced design tools for developing software Advanced facilities for accessing software Software performance Software security, privacy, safeness Advances in software testing Specialized software advanced applications Open source software Agile software techniques Software deployment and maintenance Software economics, adoption, and education ====== ================= ICSNC Tracks (details in the CfP on site) WINET: Wireless networks HSNET: High speed networks SENET: Sensor networks MHNET: Mobile and Ad hoc networks SESYS: Security systems MCSYS: Multimedia communications systems POSYS: Policy-based systems PESYS: Pervasive education systems ======================================== _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 19 18:36:06 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HTQRI-0004fP-Sh; 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b=J5vwRSUIlmSaqQPvIVM0dNn7oRtdQKEKFrpy7kFmAI2vQA7PO+YSijt7G0yiUF35DeNUO4ri9HmcGZqBrju68ngVM7kWBkXfm9W8ehjtsXIxAl6Ig0//Kh2YEcM517fYbIhSyJJios0laXx/eYDmPeXNUOVyZtAzv71JhX1h0sc= Received: by 10.100.93.5 with SMTP id q5mr4258900anb.1174343684447; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.105.10 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:34:44 +0100 From: MoSO To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 93e7fb8fef2e780414389440f367c879 Subject: [manet] CFP IJSWIS Special Issue on Mobile Services and Ontologies X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org ***We apologize for cross-postings*** Call for Papers International Journal on Semantic Web and Information Systems http://www.idea-group.com/journals/details.asp?ID=3D4625 Special Issue on Mobile Services and Ontologies Submission Deadline: May 31, 2007 Guest Editors - Christoph Bussler (Cisco Systems, Inc., USA) chbussler@aol.com - Birgitta K=F6nig-Ries (University of Jena, Germany) koenig@informatik.uni-jena.de - Dumitru Roman (DERI Innsbruck, Austria) dumitru.roman@deri.org - Jari Veijalainen (University of Jyvaskyla, Finland) veijalai@cs.jyu.fi Scope and Topics Today, computers are changing from big, grey, and noisy equipment on our desks to small, portable, and constantly connected devices most of us are carrying around. This new form of device mobility imposes a shift in how we view computers and the way we use them. Services offer the possibility to overcome the limitations of individual mobile devices by making functionality offered by others available on an as-needed basis. Thus, using the service-oriented computing paradigm in mobile environments will considerably enlarge the variety of accessible applications and will enable new business opportunities in the mobile space by delivering integrated functionalities across wireless networks. Network-hosted mobile services will allow mobile operators and third party mobile service providers to extend their businesses by making their services available to a broader audience (e.g. developers, service providers, etc.); device-hosted services will allow great potential for major innovations for applications and services that can be provided to individual mobile device owners. These mobile services offer functionalities and behaviours that can be described,advertised, discovered, and composed by others. Eventually, services will be able to interoperate even though they have not been designed to work together. This type of interoperability is based on the ability to understand other services and reason about their functionalities and behaviours when necessary. In this respect, mobileservices could benefit from the techniques developed for the Semantic Web. Use of Semantic Web languages, techniques and technologies, including ontologies, semantic annotations (of both content and services), automatic metadata extraction, reasoning, etc. may offer new capabilities for mobile applications. However, standard semantic web tools and technologies are too heavy-weight for small mobile devices. The need to appropriately combine and adapt mobility and semantic grounded data sharing has generated and is continuously triggering challenging questions in several areas of computer science, engineering and networking. This special issue will cover research problems around methods, concepts, models, languages and technologies that enable new opportunities in the mobile space through adoption, usage, and integration of mobile services with ontologies and other Semantic Web enablers. Of particular interest are methodologies and technologies that will allow automatic tasks to be performed with respect to mobile servicesand the use of ontologies and semantic techniques in this context. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to the following which involve ontologies or other Semantic Web capabilities: - architectures for mobile internet services - languages for describing mobile services - discovery and matchmaking of ontology based mobile services - adaptive selection of mobile services - ontology management in mobile environments - contracting and negotiation with ontology-based mobile services (service level agreements) - semantic annotation and reasoning involving semantic metadata - combining thematic metadata with locational/georeference metadata in mobile applications - approaches to composition of ontology based mobile services - invocation, adaptive execution, monitoring, and management of mobile services - interaction protocols and conversation models for mobile services - ontology-based security and privacy issues in mobile services - mobile service applications - analysis and design approaches for mobile services - reasoning with mobile services - ontology-based policies for mobile services - tools for discovery, matchmaking, selection, mediation, composition, management, and monitoring of mobile services - mobile service development - multi agent systems and mobile services Submission Process Submissions to this special issue should follow the journal's guidelines for submission (www.idea-group.com/journals/details.asp?ID=3D4625&v=3Dguidelines). After submitting the paper, please also inform guest editors by an email with the paper ID assigned by the submission system. Papers must be of high quality and should clearly state the technical issue(s) being addressed as related to mobile services and ontologies. Research papers should present a proof of concept for any novel technique they are proposing. Case studies should discuss the significance and applicability of their proposed architecture/system. If a submission is based on a prior publication in a workshop or conference, the journal submission must involve substantial advance (a min. of 30%) in conceptual terms as well as in exposition (e.g., more comprehensive testing/evaluation/validation or additional applications/usage). All papers must be submitted by May 31, 2007. The editors recommend that the number of pages should not exceed 35. All papers are subject to peer review performed by three established researchers selected from a panel of reviewers established for this special issue. Accepted papers have an opportunity for further revision and an additional round of reviewer feedback. Information on the journal with online submission can be found at: http://www.ijswis.org. Please submit manuscripts through that online system. Online call for this special issue can be found at www.idea-group.com/journals/details.asp?ID=3D4625&v=3DcallForPapersSpecial Important Dates -------------------- - Submissions: May 31, 2007 - Completion of first round of reviews July 31 - Notifications: August 15, 2007 - Revised papers: October 31, 2007 - Notifications of final acceptance: November 30, 2007 - Final papers: December 31, 2007 - Publication: First or Second issue 2008 (Vol. 4, issue 1 or 2) _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 20 05:05:04 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HTaFT-00022R-Ss; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 05:03:19 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HTaFS-00022B-6l for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 05:03:18 -0400 Received: from mail.di.uniroma1.it ([151.100.17.19]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HTaFP-0008IZ-IS for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 05:03:18 -0400 Received: from wmail.di.uniroma1.it (venere.di.uniroma1.it [151.100.17.6]) by mail.di.uniroma1.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51B21BD646 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:54:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from 85-18-14-32.fastres.net ([85.18.14.32]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user maselli); by wmail.di.uniroma1.it with HTTP; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:16:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4627.85.18.14.32.1174378608.squirrel@85.18.14.32> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:16:48 +0100 (CET) From: "Gaia Maselli" To: manet@ietf.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ee80a2074afbfe28d15369f4e74e579d Subject: [manet] CFP: ACM/SIGMOBILE HealthNet 2007 (extended deadline: April 6) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Please apologize if you receive multiple copies. ------------------------------------------------------------ **** EXTENDED SUBMISSION DEADLINE **** APRIL 6, 2007 (5PM US EST) ------------------------------------------------------------ Call for Papers HealthNet 2007 The 1st International Workshop on Systems and Networking Support for Healthcare and Assisted Living Environments Sponsored by ACM/SIGMOBILE In conjunction with MobiSys 2007 http://healthnet07.cs.uiuc.edu June 11, 2007 Puerto Rico, USA ------------------------------------------------------------ WORKSHOP SCOPE: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D As the world's population grows older, healthcare and high-tech companies are joining forces. New technologies are being used to provide improved support for elderly and home bound people in their homes and in assisted living environments. The overall goal of these initiatives is to improve the quality of life by providing customized support to people in need of assistance. The main challenge is to provide this support according to the user's own specific situation in a non-intrusive and respectful way. These new technologies enable the automation of the observation and support for elderly and home bound people through the use of sensors, actuators, distributed intelligence, databases, ubiquitous connectivity and friendly adaptive interfaces, all connected mainly via a variety of wireless networking technologies. The ultimate goal is a system that can adapt to the users needs, helping them get through their daily routine in a way that is effective in providing support where needed without making them feel humiliated by excessive attention. To provide such support, it will be necessary to combine efforts from many areas of computer science, including networking, distributed systems, security, data management, HCI, AI and middleware. Given the inherent use of mobile and wireless communication and the need for comprehensive distributed systems as well as the multi-disciplinary nature of solutions for healthcare and assisted living environments, the goal of HealthNet is to provide a forum for the cross-area interactions that will be necessary for successful systems and applications. The specific focus of HealthNet will be on understanding what it takes to provide effective systems and communication support for healthcare and assisted living environments. Although the systems and networking community is very good at providing effective solutions to satisfying application requirements, they require input from experts in other disciples, including HCI, middleware, security, privacy and social networking, to provide a more accurate understanding of the specific requirements for these environments. Therefore, HealthNet aims to attract researchers working on cross-disciplinary projects, with a focus on understanding and supporting the requirements of these complex applications. Authors are invited to submit papers presenting new research related to the support of healthcare and assisted living environments. All submissions must describe original research, not published or currently under review for another workshop, conference, or journal. Areas of interest include, but are not limited to: * Enabling technologies * Service and device discovery * Security and privacy * Reliability and fault tolerance * User and device localization * Resource management architecture * User data management * Middleware for heterogeneous networks * Mobility and connectivity management * Cross-layer system architecture design * Human-centered Computing * Task and behavior analysis * Impact of user interface design on system design and management * Test-beds and simulations environments IMPORTANT DATES: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Paper submission deadline: March 23, 2007 ***** EXTENDED TO APRIL 6, 2007 (5PM US EST) ****** Notification of acceptance: April 27, 2007 Camera ready version due: May 17, 2007 Workshop date: June 11, 2007 PAPER SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D All paper submissions will be handled electronically. Papers must be in PDF format, no longer than 6 pages, double-column, with a font size no smaller than 10 points, and must fit properly on US Letter-sized paper (8.5 inch x 11 inch) with reasonable margins. The first page of each paper should include the names and affiliations of the authors, i.e., the submissions should not be anonymous and reviewing is single-blind. Submissions will be judged on based on technical content and correctness, relevance to the workshop, as well as presentation of the research. Extended versions of selected workshop papers will be considered for fast track publication in a special issue of ACM Monet. ORGANIZING COMMITTEE =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D WORKSHOP Co-Chairs: * Robin Kravets, University of Illinois, USA * Chiara Petrioli, Rome University "La Sapienza," Italy PUBLICITY Co-Chairs: * Stefano Basagni, Northeastern University, USA * Gaia Maselli, Rome University "La Sapienza," Italy TECHNICAL PROGRAM COMMITTEE * Amy Murphy, IRST-ITC * Archan Misra, IBM * Gene Tsudik, ISI * Hans Gellersen, Lancaster University * Henry Kautz, University of Rochester * Jack Stankovic, University of Virginia * Jean-Pierre Ebert, IHP Microelectronics * Karrie Karahalios, University of Illinois * Kay Connelly, Indiana University * Maria Ebling, IBM * Martha Pollack, University of Michigan * Nigel Davies, Lancaster University * Sunny Consolvo, Intel * Taieb Znati, University of Pittsburgh * Tarek Abdelzaher, University of Illinois * Wendi Heinzelman, University of Rochester * Yih-Chun Hu, University of Illinois Please email questions related to paper submission or the technical program to: healthnet07@cs.uiuc.edu. Organized by UIUC and Rome University "La Sapienza". --=20 Gaia Maselli, PhD HealthNet 2007 Publicity Chair Computer Science Dept. Rome University "La Sapienza" Via Salaria 113, 00198 Roma, Italy Email: maselli@di.uniroma1.it _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 20 11:41:12 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HTgPw-0007j0-Qk; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:38:32 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HTgPv-0007ig-Gb for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:38:31 -0400 Received: from reserv5.univ-lille1.fr ([193.49.225.19]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HTgPs-0000Qy-TV for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:38:31 -0400 Received: from malonne.lifl.fr (malonne.lifl.fr [134.206.10.29]) by reserv5.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id l2KFbkoR025441 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:37:46 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (romy.lifl.fr [134.206.11.216]) by malonne.lifl.fr with ESMTP id l2KFbi721543 ; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:37:48 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <45FFFFD1.2050707@inria.fr> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:37:53 +0100 From: Nathalie MITTON User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060414 X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: manet@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! 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Wireless mesh networks have been applied as alternatives for providing Internet access in remote business and residential areas. Wireless sensor networks are being deployed for several industrial control processes and for monitoring environment. This conference aims to address multi-hop ad-hoc and sensor networks systems, covering topics ranging from technology issues up to the applications aspects. Original contributions are solicited in all areas of (mobile) ad hoc networking and sensor systems and applications. Topics include, but not limited to: - physical layer impact on higher level protocols - MAC protocols for ad-hoc and sensor networks (802.11, 802.15.4, UWB) - Provisioning of wireless QoS in terms of bandwidth and delay assurance - Routing protocols (unicast, multicast, broadcast, geocast) and routing metrics - Data transport in wireless ad hoc and sensor networks - Power-aware and energy-efficient design - Topology construction and coverage maintenance - Cross layer design and optimization - Incentives and game theoretic approaches in wireless ad-hoc networks - Localization and synchronization in wireless sensor networks - Data gathering, fusion, and dissemination in wireless sensor - Reliability, security, and trustworthiness issues in ad hoc and sensor networks - Operating system and middleware support - Measurements and practical experience from experimental systems and test-beds - Modeling, analysis and performance evaluation - Mesh networking - Delay tolerant networks and opportunistic networking - Handoff and mobility management and seamless internetworking - Peer-to-peer, overlay, and content distribution wireless ad hoc networks ---------------------- Submission Guidelines: ---------------------- All submissions must be full papers in .pdf or .ps (PostScript) format. Papers must be uploaded to EDAS by April 11, 2007, and must not exceed 10 single-spaced, two-column pages using at least 11 point size fonts on 8.5 x 11 inch pages. Detailed submission instructions will be published in due time on the conference website http://cnd.iit.cnr.it/mass2007 -------------------- Workshops Proposals -------------------- Proposals for full day workshops are solicited. Selections will be made considering the expertise and experience of the workshop organizers and the relevance of the topic to the central theme of the conference. Proposals of at most 4 pages, including a 1-page biographical sketch, should be submitted to the Workshops Chair by February 9, 2007. See http://cnd.iit.cnr.it/mass2007/callforworkshops.html --------------- Demo Proposals: --------------- Technical demonstration of experimental ad hoc networking and computing systems are solicited. To Instructions for submitting a demo proposal will be published in due time on the conference website. ---------------- Important Dates: ---------------- Manuscript Submission Due: April 11, 2007 Acceptance Notification: June 30, 2007 Final Manuscript Due: August 10, 2007 ORGANIZING COMMITTEE ==================== GENERAL Chair Marco Conti, IIT-CNR, Italy PROGRAM Chairs Silvia Giordano, SUPSI, Switzerland Ivan Stojmenovic, University of Ottawa, Canada PROGRAM Vice Chairs Giuseppe Anastasi, University of Pisa, Italy Doug Blough, Georgia Institute of Technology, USA Soung-Chang Liew, Chinese University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong David Simplot-Ryl, University of Lille, France WORKSHOPS Chairs Luciano Bononi, University of Bologna Archan Misra, IBM Research, USA DEMO Chairs Andrea Passarella, IIT-CNR, Italy Gergely Zaruba, University of Texas at Arlington, USA AWARDS Chairs Serge Fdida, University of Paris 6, France Jie Wu, Florida Atlantic University, USA PUBLICITY Chairs Qi Han, Colorado School of Mines, USA Nathalie Mitton, INRIA, Lille, France Angel Zhang, Chinese University, Hong Kong FINANCE & REGISTRATION Chair: Anup Kumar, University of Louisville,USA PUBLICATION Chair Dajin Wang, Montclair State University, USA SUBMISSION Chair Xu Li, Carleton University, Canada INDUSTRY LIAISON Chair Jon Crowcroft, University of Cambridge, UK IEEE TC Chairs Anup Kumar (TC S), University of Louisville, USA Jie Wu (TC DP), Florida Atlantic University, USA STEERING COMMITTEE Chair Dharma P. Agrawal, University of Cincinnati, USA LOCAL ARRANGEMENTS Chair Adriana Lazzaroni, IIT-CNR, Italy WEB Designer and Manager Maria Bucci, IIT-CNR, Italy PROGRAM COMMITTEE ================== http://cnd.iit.cnr.it/mass2007/programcommittee.html _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 20 11:50:38 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HTgaq-00087g-Qy; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:49:48 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HTgao-00087X-Ku for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:49:46 -0400 Received: from tamdhu.uni-trier.de ([136.199.54.243]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HTgai-0004if-S4 for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:49:46 -0400 Received: from notebookhannes (tamdhu.uni-trier.de [136.199.54.243]) by tamdhu.uni-trier.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56671D01E6 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:49:33 +0100 (CET) From: "Hannes Frey" To: Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:49:21 +0100 Message-ID: <017201c76b07$540204b0$742f3557@notebookhannes> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcdrB1O6EY/LPqOBQGmfhrHi4YoGSw== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 926f893f9bbbfa169f045f85f0cdb955 Subject: [manet] Call for Papers - LOCALGOS 2007 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org = ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Our apologies if you receive duplicates of this posting. Please feel free to distribute it to those who might be interested. = ----------------------------------------------------------------------- = *********************************************************************** * CALL FOR PAPERS = * * = * * LOCALGOS 2007 = * * = * * First International Workshop on Localized Algorithms and Protocols = * * for Wireless Sensor Networks = * * http://ants.dif.um.es/localgos07 = * * = * * In conjunction with the IEEE International Conference on = * * Distributed Computing in Sensor Systems (DCOSS 2007) = * * www.dcoss.org = * * = * * June 18 - 20, 2007 = * * Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA = * * = * * Extended Submission Deadline: March 30, 2007 = * = *********************************************************************** Wireless sensor networks consist of a large set of embedded devices each having limited computation and communication capabilities. By using = wireless multihop communication, small chunks of collected data are aggregated = and sent towards some selected data sinks. In this way individual = measurements emerge to a global picture of the entire physical phenomenon. Wireless sensor networks enable rapid deployment, require minimum maintenance = effort, and have minimum influence on the measured phenomenon. It is envisioned = that in many application scenarios sensor networks will lead us beyond the = scale, precision, and detail of what we can measure with traditional techniques today. Sensor networks may have hundreds or thousands of nodes, with limited = energy supplies and communication capabilities. Thus, it is of paramount = importance for the networking algorithms and protocols to be able to scale with a = very large number of devices. The main paradigm shift to achieve those = desirable properties is to apply localized (or greedy) schemes as opposed to = existing protocols requiring global information. Localized algorithms are = distributed algorithms where simple local node behavior achieves a desired global objective. Localized protocols provide scalable solutions, that is, solutions for wireless networks with an arbitrary number of nodes, which = is the main goal of this plan. This workshop will bring together researchers working in the field of localized algorithms and protocols for wireless sensor networks. The = main objective is on data communication, topology control, sensor coverage, = and sensor localization. Data communication problems are those in which one = or multiple sources need to send data to one or multiple destinations. They include among others, unicast and multicast routing, geocasting and data gathering. In the routing problem a path is created to allow the data = source to send packets to one (unicast) or multiple (multicast) destinations. Geocasting consist of sending a data packet to all sensor nodes within a pre-defined geographic area. In the data gathering problem, data from a = set of sensor nodes is collected and transmitted toward one or multiple (eventually mobile) base stations. Topology control algorithms and = protocols include problems such as neighbor detection, boundary detection, and = network organization problems in which a subset of the original topology = satisfying some properties is obtained. Examples of topology control problems are computation of dominating sets, planar graphs, and energy efficient sub topologies. Sensor coverage denotes the ability of a sensor network to = cover each point in a given area by a certain minimum number of sensor nodes. Localized coverage control includes energy conserving sleep cycles, and autonomous mobile sensor nodes which collaboratively move to achieve a desired area coverage. The majority of localized protocols require that nodes are aware of their physical position. In relative positioning such information is made available by means of distance measurements between neighboring nodes and triangulation, while the distance between two = neighbor nodes is estimated by measuring the received signal strength. SCOPE ----- The main objective of the workshop is to present state of the art = research results in the area of localized algorithms and protocols for wireless sensor networks. The workshop covers among others the following research topics (not limited to): - Unicast and multicast routing - Broadcasting - Energy-efficient and bandwidth-efficient communication=20 - Security in wireless sensor networks - Data management, query processing and data delivery - Topology construction and maintenance in wireless sensor networks - Localized protocols for duty-cycled sensor networks - Geocasting techniques for wireless sensor networks - Auto-configuration and network formation protocols and algorithms - Relative positioning algorithms - Lower bounds on information exchange required for localized solutions - Network graph properties supporting localized protocols - Worst and average case analysis on the deviation from optimal = solutions IMPORTANT DATES --------------- Manuscript Submission: March 30, 2007 Acceptance Notification: April 15, 2007 Final Manuscript Due: May 01, 2007 PAPER SUBMISSION ---------------- Submitted manuscripts may not exceed 12 single-spaced pages using = 12-point size font on 8.5x11 inch pages, including figures and tables. References = may be included in addition to the 12 pages. Submissions will be judged on correctness, originality, technical strength, significance, quality of presentation, and interest and relevance to the workshop attendees. Submitted papers may not have appeared in or be under consideration for another conference or a journal. Accepted papers will be published in = the workshop proceedings of the International Conference on Distributed Computing in Sensor Systems (DCOSS 2007). Please submit papers via Easy Chair by using the following URL: http://www.easychair.org/LOCALGOS07/. In case of trouble with the = submission you may send your publication by email to both program co-chairs (pedrom = at dif.um.es, frey at imada.sdu.dk). GENERAL CHAIR ------------- Ivan Stojmenovic, SITE, University of Ottawa PROGRAM CO-CHAIR ---------------- Pedro M. Ruiz Martinez, University of Murcia, Spain Hannes Frey, IMADA, University of Southern Denmark=20 PROGRAM COMMITTEE ----------------- Raffaele Bruno, IIT-CNR, Italy=20 Silvia Giordano, University of Applied Science, SUPSI, Switzerland=20 Isabelle Guerin Lassous, INRIA Rhone Alpes, France=20 Francois Ingelrest, EPFL, Lausanne, Swizerland=20 Lars M. Kristensen, University of Aarhus, Denmark=20 Thomas Kunz, Carleton University, Canada=20 Miguel A. Labrador, Univ. South Florida, USA=20 Hai Liu, SITE, University of Ottawa, Canada=20 Norbert Luttenberger, Universitat Kiel, Germany=20 Pietro Manzoni, Univ. Politecnica de Valencia, Spain=20 Mikhail Nesterenko, Kent State University, USA Luis Orozco, Univ. Castilla La Mancha, Spain=20 Josep Paradells, Technical University of Catalonia (UPC), Spain=20 Sumesh J Philip, Western Illinois University, USA S. S. 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Finding effective ways to protect information systems, networks and sensitive data within the critical information infrastructure is challenging even with the most advanced technology and trained professionals. The International Symposium on Information Assurance and Security aims to bring together researchers, practitioners, developers, and policy makers involved in multiple disciplines of information security and assurance to exchange ideas and to learn the latest development in this important field. Topics: Previously unpublished work offering novel research and application contributions in any aspect of information assurance, security and privacy are solicited for submission to the IAS=9207 symposium. 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Papers must be submitted no later than April 5, 2007 and electronic submission in PDF or Word is required. The page limit for a full-length paper is 6 pages. Short papers describing novel research visions, work-in-progress or less mature results are also welcome, with the limit of 4 pages. All submissions should be in the IEEE 8.5" x 11" two-column format. Papers should contain up to 5 keywords. Papers will be evaluated for originality, significance, clarity, and soundness, and will be reviewed by at least three independent reviewers. The IAS=9207 paper submission system is available at: http://www.ias07.org/paper_submission.php. Conference Proceedings: Accepted papers will be published by IEEE Computer Society Press. Selected papers presented in the conference will be considered for publication in a special issue of an international journal. Best Paper Awards: The IAS=9207 Program Committee will select one winner for the Best Paper Award (all regular papers are eligible) and one winner for the Best Student Paper Award (to be eligible, the student must be the sole author of the paper, or the first author and primary contributor. A cover letter to the General Chair/Program Chair must identify the paper as a candidate for this competition at the time of submission). The award winners will each be presented with an award certificate and a direct payment of =A3200 at the conference, and an invitation to submit an extended version of the award-winning paper for the consideration of publication in an international journal, JIAS. 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Sitharama Iyengar, Louisiana State University, USA Steering Committee Chair Petre Dini, Cisco Systems, Inc. / Concordia University, Canada ------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 21 19:34:33 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HUAG8-0003kw-TZ; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:30:24 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HUAG6-0003kr-Rp for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:30:22 -0400 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.228]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HUAG4-0003zn-A0 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:30:22 -0400 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 37so473915wra for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:30:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=W6Zxrw2PW6S2qhio5Om9CwTHKoSTs4cALetm+pWSuCvoMAxkd1zx+rJjb4bDjjMB4XxDQyPtDGBiaS1EtbUOu70dtLhgLAHx3yOqK1EkSQdbjNE/XuZCcDX8qzMIeozN7uYQzPgUnq9rVSfTsEJWLj18nzlxsg4R3KlMhV8EwlE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=qeuew0BuHZD+4/Q8zJ0OjrXPLb3PSwAz2lzwoAkh4SjztAnhOn3b209DvOHvjRVqTQEVFRsMb76cAbrfe7kBljnaLZ5cwtVDD23Iooaxxy5oKXa9jr5WtQvb0DPw92Pj97rymj4V4cPVx0haDkSJ3TtEIWd40rqAA5OOUiLOimk= Received: by 10.114.166.1 with SMTP id o1mr358404wae.1174519817351; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.255.11 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:30:17 -0400 From: "wenyuan xu" To: manet@ietf.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: a5f878a86240b016 X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a492040269d440726bfd84680622cee7 Subject: [manet] Second IEEE Workshop on Networking Technologies for Software Defined Radio Networks (2007), Sub deadline: April 9th X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0109266838==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============0109266838== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_182566_22468187.1174519817289" ------=_Part_182566_22468187.1174519817289 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Apologies for cross-postings. Please send to interested colleagues and students * * *Second IEEE Workshop on Networking Technologies for Software Defined Radio (SDR) Networks* * (Held in Conjunction with IEEE SECON 2007) June 18, 2007, *San Diego, California, USA Wireless systems have historically operated in relatively static frequency bands allocated to a single type of service. This compartmentalization of spectrum offered few incentives for common designs across frequency bands and limited opportunities for dynamic spectrum sharing. More recently, there has been a push to make more spectrum available, and in response there has been significant research towards developing new classes of "cognitive" radios and their associated protocols. Cognitive radios (CRs), or more generally software defined radios (SDRs), can tune their communication stack to take advantage of spectrum opportunities, adapt to a wide variety of radio interference conditions, and employ protocols that allow for collaboration between previously incompatible technologies. Dynamic physical layer adaptation is achieved by scanning available spectrum, selection from a wide range of operating frequencies, rapid adjustment of modulation waveforms and adaptive power control. A suitably designed cognitive radio with a software-defined physical layer would be capable of collaborating with neighboring radios to ameliorate interference using higher-layer protocols. These higher layer coordination protocols could range from etiquette mechanisms to fully collaborative multi-hop forwarding. The potential impact of cognitive radios upon both commercial and military wireless communications is great as they could allow for improved spectrum utilization and improved interoperability between wireless data standards. The workshop builds upon the success of the First IEEE Workshop on Networking Technologies for Software Defined Radio (SDR) Networks. Although the potential for CR/SDR platforms is great, there remains a need for developing, testing, and prototyping the protocols that will allow the CR platforms to achieve their promise. The purpose of this workshop is to facilitate the exchange of cutting-edge research in cognitive radio and software defined radio technologies. The focus of this workshop is to explore the underlying networking and communication protocols needed to facilitate the interconnection of CR/SDR platforms. Since CR/SDR research is taking place across multiple communities, ranging from academic to government to industry, from physical layer to networking to hardware researchers, we intend for this workshop to serve as a forum for cross-pollination and collaboration that will accelerate the deployment and eventual success of CR/SDR platforms. Original manuscripts that focus on the analytical modeling, protocol/algorithm design, and/or experimental studies of the following topics of interest are sought: - Spectrum Sensing and Spectrum Management - Cognitive Radio Test-Beds and Hardware Prototypes - DSA/Cognitive Radio Standardization Activities (e.g. IEEE P1900, IEEE 802.22) - Accreditation, Trust, & Security Mechanisms for DSA Networks - Cross-Layer Protocol Design - Cooperation and Game-Theoretical Protocols for Cognitive Radios - Practical Experience and Systems Implementations *Submission Instructions:* All submissions must be full papers in .pdf format. 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Second IEEE Workshop on Networking Technologies for Software Defined Radio (SDR) Networks

(Held in Conjunction with IEEE SECON 2007)
June 18, 2007, San Diego, California, USA

 

Wireless systems have historically operated in relatively static frequency bands allocated to a single type of service.  This compartmentalization of spectrum offered few incentives for common designs across frequency bands and limited opportunities for dynamic spectrum sharing.  More recently, there has been a push to make more spectrum available, and in response there has been significant research towards developing new classes of "cognitive" radios and their associated protocols. Cognitive radios (CRs), or more generally software defined radios (SDRs), can tune their communication stack to take advantage of spectrum opportunities, adapt to a wide variety of radio interference conditions, and employ protocols that allow for collaboration between previously incompatible technologies. Dynamic physical layer adaptation is achieved by scanning available spectrum, selection from a wide range of operating frequencies, rapid adjustment of modulation waveforms and adaptive power control.  A suitably designed cognitive radio with a software-defined physical layer would be capable of collaborating with neighboring radios to ameliorate interference using higher-layer protocols.  These higher layer coordination protocols could range from etiquette mechanisms to fully collaborative multi-hop forwarding.  The potential impact of cognitive radios upon both commercial and military wireless communications is great as they could allow for improved spectrum utilization and improved interoperability between wireless data standards.

 

The workshop builds upon the success of the First IEEE Workshop on Networking Technologies for Software Defined Radio (SDR) Networks. Although the potential for CR/SDR platforms is great, there remains a need for developing, testing, and prototyping the protocols that will allow the CR platforms to achieve their promise. The purpose of this workshop is to facilitate the exchange of cutting-edge research in cognitive radio and software defined radio technologies. The focus of this workshop is to explore the underlying networking and communication protocols needed to facilitate the interconnection of CR/SDR platforms. Since CR/SDR research is taking place across multiple communities, ranging from academic to government to industry, from physical layer to networking to hardware researchers, we intend for this workshop to serve as a forum for cross-pollination and collaboration that will accelerate the deployment and eventual success of CR/SDR platforms. Original manuscripts that focus on the analytical modeling, protocol/algorithm design, and/or experimental studies of the following topics of interest are sought:

  • Spectrum Sensing and Spectrum Management
  • Cognitive Radio Test-Beds and Hardware Prototypes
  • DSA/Cognitive Radio Standardization Activities (e.g. IEEE P1900, IEEE 802.22)
  • Accreditation, Trust, & Security Mechanisms for DSA Networks
  • Cross-Layer Protocol Design
  • Cooperation and Game-Theoretical Protocols for Cognitive Radios
  • Practical Experience and Systems Implementations

 

Submission Instructions:

 

All submissions must be full papers in .pdf format. Papers should be sent to the email address SDRWorkshop07@winlab.rutgers.edu . Papers must not exceed 8 single-spaced, two-column pages using at least 11 point size fonts on 8.5 x 11 inch pages. The workshop website is http://www.winlab.rutgers.edu/~wenyuan/sdr07/index.htm .

 

Important Dates:

 

Manuscript Submission Due: April 9, 2007, 5pm EDT

Acceptance Notification:  April 18, 2007

Camera-Ready Paper Due: May 5, 2007

------=_Part_182566_22468187.1174519817289-- --===============0109266838== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============0109266838==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 22 07:50:21 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HULlp-0002Te-VE; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 07:47:53 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HULlo-0002TI-Me; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 07:47:52 -0400 Received: from smtp.nokia.com ([131.228.20.173] helo=mgw-ext14.nokia.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HULlk-0006vy-6V; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 07:47:52 -0400 Received: from esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh108.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.145]) by mgw-ext14.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.5/Switch-3.2.5) with ESMTP id l2MBlD4I014552; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:47:46 +0200 Received: from daebh102.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.241.35.112]) by esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:47:23 +0200 Received: from daebe101.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.241.35.113]) by daebh102.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 22 Mar 2007 06:47:20 -0500 Received: from [10.162.59.192] ([10.162.59.192]) by daebe101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 22 Mar 2007 06:47:20 -0500 Message-ID: <46026CC1.5020903@nokia.com> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 04:47:13 -0700 From: "Charles E. Perkins" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ext Thomas Clausen References: <6C76930F-642D-447E-A694-BF05F4D745DA@polytechnique.fr> In-Reply-To: <6C76930F-642D-447E-A694-BF05F4D745DA@polytechnique.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2007 11:47:21.0137 (UTC) FILETIME=[D99F9210:01C76C77] X-eXpurgate-Category: 1/0 X-eXpurgate-ID: 149371::070322134746-38AF4BB0-7E53BBFC/0-0/0-1 X-Nokia-AV: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f607d15ccc2bc4eaf3ade8ffa8af02a0 Cc: autoconf@ietf.org, manet Subject: [manet] Re: [Autoconf] IMPORTANT: Arch I-D X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hello Thomas, I've started to review the document. One minor question -- what is meant by a "reflexive" interface? Don't you mean "symmetric"? Besides, I don't think that the interface is symmetric or transitive, at least not in the way that seems to be intended. I'd rather say it is the physical medium itself that has these properties, not the network interface. Of course, even these are just approximations. Beyond its rated length (without repeaters) an Ethernet starts to look pretty "wireless"... I'll send more comments soon. For one thing, I really think the stick figures need work. I may not be an artist, but for ASCII stick figures I think one just needs more space, not more talent. Regards, Charlie P. ext Thomas Clausen wrote: > Dear all, > > The immediate priority for the AUTOCONF wg is to finalise the Arch > I-D. Therefore, and in following up with Ian's email, I would like to > ask the working groups (AUTOCONF and MANET both) to throughly review > the architecture document as it is on the following URL prior to Prague: > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-autoconf-manetarch-00.txt > > No doubt, a good part of the the wg meeting in Prague will be spent on > this document, with the goal of getting away with a (complete?) > todo-list for what we need to do to the I-D before advancing it within > the IETF. And, I would like this to be reflected on the AUTOCONF > mailing list (autoconf@ietf.org) such that the input from those who > will not be in Prague can be taken into account as well. > > Thanks - and see y'all soon, > > Thomas > > --Thomas Clausen > Thomas.Clausen@polytechnique.fr > http://www.lix.polytechnique.fr/Labo/Thomas.Clausen/ > http://www.lix.polytechnique.fr/hipercom/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Autoconf mailing list > Autoconf@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/autoconf > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 22 14:34:45 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HUS4C-0001Fs-AL; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:31:16 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HUS49-0001Et-6Z for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:31:14 -0400 Received: from web32708.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.207.252]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HUS44-0007Zh-T2 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:31:13 -0400 Received: (qmail 90523 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2007 18:24:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ThIe7QdLn00z09zr80T+A/6LTQTr3Q61UjWRvqqOFgt8migwYqPXIlnDvHlZWdJiDN9nFA//JZdreHKrtEI4ENkTYl4d/liYf6/yNlnpTrB32iapNApXP6P15cIepkb47FMN6ehvr4WVPh38Tzz4c74eQ+YFA63NS9NRNSkjP98=; X-YMail-OSG: .SNGRhgVM1nDAXi3PlNTrheCZGF7pJ8ZpWinGvE52g55.qHDUAyhNSaVWhQQdZC.iDsVhJBgZXDc4g2A_OX8MS7dg8N_ldTTtKKAKugqsFNH1WTWPV0s4ETPAZkmC2G3H1XLy2nHJaHccLRtPjrZ8rnppA-- Received: from [80.191.197.96] by web32708.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:24:27 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:24:27 -0700 (PDT) From: hamid reza To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <428379.90215.qm@web32708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cf4fa59384e76e63313391b70cd0dd25 Subject: [manet] Change the Size of CTS(NS2) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Dear all, Can you change the size of CTS(From 14 to 17)? I really appreciate from incomming Helps. Best Regards Hamid R.Afrancheh ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 22 16:15:50 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HUTgH-0008Br-6R; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:14:41 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HUTgF-00087l-DI for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:14:39 -0400 Received: from web32714.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.27]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HUTg8-00055Q-Q4 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:14:39 -0400 Received: (qmail 15992 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2007 20:07:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=yonS52yUglDVuc6vECRqcyqEnNgDkcZYbYfWKMdBS6E72x+5Y31b3+PeLiXTUtWZMIDjB2bKGNxdsu7K6k7CCsZJclkHypf4h73NcmN61FmaAE3BTOqgNWaxwQlXEazzAibjoa67h/VUNLDpJ6UzTuDFqoPMbgZ46QZFx57sKvw=; X-YMail-OSG: _GCk3qkVM1m1j.VVrVZQT_I3e3X3c58jITaMBgX2UQIbmERoydOFuJR9w7o_7oMaQzHv6yX8WkmhgPvem9syFGRyxDNvBJvjv3IiOIYqcDLvax6Dp9nAnesrCp2TPoh9xW7qp7aaNDQRhWIpFw7qihXy Received: from [80.191.197.115] by web32714.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:07:51 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:07:51 -0700 (PDT) From: hamid reza To: manet@ietf.org, ns-users@ISI.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <410337.15302.qm@web32714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08170828343bcf1325e4a0fb4584481c Cc: Subject: [manet] The Exact Value Between Two Subseqent RTS Packets X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Dear All, Can You Bring me The Exact Value Between Two Subseqent RTS Packets when The CTS of the First Packet Cant Return To Sender ? I cant find it in IEEE 802.11 Documentation. Best Regards Hamid Reza ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 23 15:53:16 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HUpkM-000768-5l; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:48:22 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HUpkK-000760-Al; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:48:20 -0400 Received: from s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil ([132.250.83.3]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HUpkF-0001tU-W8; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:48:20 -0400 Received: from smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil [132.250.86.3]) by s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.8) with SMTP id l2NJmAuk014552; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from SEXTANT [132.250.92.22]) by smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (SMSSMTP 4.1.12.43) with SMTP id M2007032315481006802 ; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:48:10 -0400 From: "Joe Macker" To: "'Charles E. Perkins'" , "'ext Thomas Clausen'" References: <6C76930F-642D-447E-A694-BF05F4D745DA@polytechnique.fr> <46026CC1.5020903@nokia.com> Subject: RE: [manet] Re: [Autoconf] IMPORTANT: Arch I-D Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:48:07 -0400 Message-ID: <018501c76d84$2e1f1c90$165cfa84@SEXTANT> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <46026CC1.5020903@nokia.com> Thread-Index: AcdseN80wNhFAin9TEuN0x5U5tuZ4QBCbz8g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 32b73d73e8047ed17386f9799119ce43 Cc: autoconf@ietf.org, 'manet' X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Some comments on the minor question. I recall there has been some pushback on symmetry terminology since in some circles it implies more than just connectivity (e.g., bandwidth,delay). Bidirectional terminology has been used in some other documents. In other words many wireless connections may appear bidirectional but are not really symmetric. I know this doesn't answer why reflexive but perhaps why not symmetric (at least not without additional modifiers). -Joe >-----Original Message----- >From: Charles E. Perkins [mailto:charles.perkins@nokia.com] >Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 7:47 AM >To: ext Thomas Clausen >Cc: autoconf@ietf.org; manet >Subject: [manet] Re: [Autoconf] IMPORTANT: Arch I-D > > >Hello Thomas, > >I've started to review the document. One minor question -- >what is meant by a "reflexive" interface? >Don't you mean "symmetric"? > >Besides, I don't think that the interface is symmetric or >transitive, at least not in the way that seems to be intended. > I'd rather say it is the physical medium itself that has >these properties, not the network interface. Of course, even >these are just approximations. >Beyond its rated length (without repeaters) an Ethernet starts >to look pretty "wireless"... > >I'll send more comments soon. For one thing, I really think >the stick figures need work. I may not be an artist, but for >ASCII stick figures I think one just needs more space, not more talent. > >Regards, >Charlie P. > > >ext Thomas Clausen wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> The immediate priority for the AUTOCONF wg is to finalise the Arch >> I-D. Therefore, and in following up with Ian's email, I >would like to >> ask the working groups (AUTOCONF and MANET both) to throughly review >> the architecture document as it is on the following URL >prior to Prague: >> >> >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-autoconf-manetarch-00.t >> xt >> >> No doubt, a good part of the the wg meeting in Prague will >be spent on >> this document, with the goal of getting away with a (complete?) >> todo-list for what we need to do to the I-D before advancing >it within >> the IETF. And, I would like this to be reflected on the AUTOCONF >> mailing list (autoconf@ietf.org) such that the input from those who >> will not be in Prague can be taken into account as well. >> >> Thanks - and see y'all soon, >> >> Thomas >> >> --Thomas Clausen >> Thomas.Clausen@polytechnique.fr >> http://www.lix.polytechnique.fr/Labo/Thomas.Clausen/ >> http://www.lix.polytechnique.fr/hipercom/ >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Autoconf mailing list >> Autoconf@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/autoconf >> > > >_______________________________________________ >manet mailing list >manet@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 23 15:54:39 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HUpqI-0001No-DX; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:54:30 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HUpqG-0001NF-IX; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:54:28 -0400 Received: from s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil ([132.250.83.3]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HUpqF-0002VU-Bc; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:54:28 -0400 Received: from smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil [132.250.86.3]) by s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.8) with SMTP id l2NJsRaP014850; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:54:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from SEXTANT [132.250.92.22]) by smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (SMSSMTP 4.1.12.43) with SMTP id M2007032315542606834 ; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:54:26 -0400 From: "Joe Macker" To: "'manet'" , Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:54:24 -0400 Message-ID: <019c01c76d85$0e6904f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcdthQ5C4n4vByVNQz+i0IW1YbXu3A== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 1ac7cc0a4cd376402b85bc1961a86ac2 Cc: Subject: [manet] Review Request X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org At the manet WG meeting we discussed a workplan prior to moving SMF to Last Call for Experimental consideration. While some readability improvements may be done the authors request that the WG provide comments as soon as possible. Positive and general comments are encouraged along with others. If you an implementor and find something confusing we are interested in hearing from you. Please see the recent briefings on line from the last meeting to understand the recent changes and upcoming plan. Thanks, Joe _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Sat Mar 24 19:01:25 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVFA5-00055s-SH; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:56:37 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVFA3-00055m-SR for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:56:35 -0400 Received: from markov.ece.neu.edu ([129.10.60.83] helo=SMTP1.ECE.NEU.EDU) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVFA1-0001QQ-Hc for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:56:35 -0400 Received: from saffron.ece.neu.edu (saffron.ece.neu.edu [129.10.60.111]) by SMTP1.ECE.NEU.EDU (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id l2OMuXxs022657 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ECE.NEU.EDU ([129.10.60.216]) by saffron.ece.neu.edu (SMSSMTP 4.1.5.31) with SMTP id M2007032418503902287 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:50:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (basagni@localhost) by ECE.NEU.EDU (8.12.8/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id l2OMtlnW029635 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:55:47 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:55:47 -0500 (EST) From: Stefano Basagni To: manet@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 5ebbf074524e58e662bc8209a6235027 Subject: [manet] CfP: 18th Tyrrhenian Workshop on Digital Communications X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org (Apologies for multiple reception of this CfP) *** DEADLINE APPROACHING *** ============================================================ PRELIMINARY ANNOUNCEMENT and CALL FOR PAPERS 18th Tyrrhenian Workshop on Digital Communications Ischia island, Naples, Italy September 9-12, 2007 Workshop theme WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS * OVERVIEW The Tyrrhenian workshop on digital communications is each year devoted to a specific theme in the area of digital communications and its applications. After several years the theme of wireless communications return. The scope of the workshop is a friendly exchange of ideas on the main research lines in the field of the workshop theme. This year we have chosen five chapters, and to each of them a session has been devoted: -4G wireless systems -Sensor and ad hoc networks -Security in wireless networks -QoS and efficiency in multimedia heterogeneous wireless networks -Wireless system applications The five sessions are in some sense complementary and interlaced each other. Suggested Technical areas included in the sessions, but are not limited, are: modulation, coding, effects of system impairments, channel modeling, MIMO and smart antennas, cross layer and radio resource management, protocols, routing in wireless networks, cognitive radio, multimedia wireless communications, Quality of Service architectures, security, architectures for security, etc. Some sessions are specifically devoted to and we are looking for the most advanced solutions for security and for applications of wireless systems in many different environment, like multimedia communications, infomobility, health care, emergency situations, etc. Interested authors are invited to submit their papers. Authors could also submit papers yet open for discussion in the area of wireless communications and its applications to the poster session. All submitted papers will be carefully reviewed and, due to the limited space available in the sessions some of them could be proposed for the inclusion in the poster session. * PAPER SUBMISSION GUIDELINES Authors are invited to submit extended summary of the final manuscript of maximum length 5 pages including the main results (figures, tables) electronically in PDF format. Selection of the final manuscripts will be based on the extended summary. Final manuscripts to be considered as regular papers should be limited to 15 double-spaced pages. Final manuscripts to be considered for the poster session should be limited to 10 double-spaced pages. Any paper submitted to the Workshop must not have been published in or submitted to other technical conferences/journals. Proceedings of the Conference will be published as a book by Springer. The web page of the workshop will be ready soon at http://www.cnit.it/html/workshops/2007 * IMPORTANT DATES Deadline for extended abstract: March 31, 2007 Notification of acceptance: April 30, 2007 Final manuscript submission: June 1, 2007 Workshop co-chairs Shingo Ohmori, NiCT, Japan Silvano Pupolin, University of Padova and CNIT, Italy Technical Program Committee Hiroyo Ogawa, NiCT, Japan Anand Prasad, Docomo Euro-Labs, Germany Kato Shuzo, NiCT, Japan Michele Zorzi, University of Padova and CNIT, Italy Publicity Stefano Basagni, Northeastern University, Boston, MA, USA Publications Tomaso Erseghe, University of Padova and CNIT, Italy -- Stefano Basagni, Ph.D. Assistant Professor of Computer Engineering Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering 312 Dana Research Center Northeastern University 360 Huntington Ave. Boston, MA 02115 Tel. 617 373 3061, Fax 617 373 8970 E-mail: basagni@ece.neu.edu *** http://www.ece.neu.edu/faculty/basagni/ *** _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Sat Mar 24 21:26:16 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVHRw-0006LH-C2; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 21:23:12 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVHRu-0006LB-Vq for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 21:23:10 -0400 Received: from gigi.cs.uoguelph.ca ([131.104.94.210]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVHRq-0003PR-8W for manet@ietf.org; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 21:23:10 -0400 Received: from snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca [131.104.48.1]) by gigi.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2P1N3Bw002998 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 21:23:03 -0400 Received: from localhost (denko@localhost) by snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01918 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 21:23:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 21:23:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Mieso Denko To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 131.104.94.210 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a2c12dacc0736f14d6b540e805505a86 Subject: [manet] CFP: The 2nd International Workshop on Intelligent Systems Techniques for Ad hoc and Wireless Sensor Networks (IST-AWSN'07) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org **** Our apologies if you receive multiple copies of this CFP **** CALL FOR PAPERS The 2nd International Workshop on Intelligent Systems Techniques for Ad hoc and Wireless Sensor Networks (IST-AWSN'07) 28 August - 1 September, 2007 http://cs.acadiau.ca/~eshakshu/IST-WSN-2007.htm in conjunction with The Fifth International Symposium on Parallel and Distributed Processing and Applications 28 August - 1 September, 2007 http://www.cs.umanitoba.ca/~ispa07/ Important Workshop Dates: Paper Submission: 10 April 2007 Author Notification: 10 May 2007 Camera-ready Due: 10 June 2007 Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada. Description: Recent developments of low-cost, low-power, multifunctional wireless sensors have enabled the fast growth of Wireless Sensor Network (WSN) applications, which include security, military, agriculture, automation, environmental and habitat monitoring. WSNs consist of numerous small inexpensive battery powered sensors; each sensor has the capability to process and store the sensor data. A combination of the dense deployment of numerous smart sensors, AI techniques, and intelligent agents can provide continuous real-time monitoring that is precise, accurate, reliable, and inexpensive. This workshop aims to bring together researchers and practitioners working on different aspects of ad-hoc and wireless sensor networks and software agent technology in an effort to highlight the state-of-the-art and discuss the challenges and opportunities to explore new research directions. We strongly welcome submissions that include results which advance the state of the art relating to the theme of the workshop. The main topics to be addressed include (but not limited to): - Adaptive agents in AWSN - Agent security and trust in AWSNs - Agent-based architectures for AWSNs - Agents design issues dealing with reliability, efficiency, and fault tolerance - Database management systems for AWSNs - Distributed management systems for AWSNs - Intelligent data fusion and aggregation - Intelligent query and data dissemination - Intelligent systems for AWSNs - Learning agents in AWSN - Mobile agents in AWSNs - Monitoring agents in AWSN - Peer-to-Peer systems for AWSNs - Power management and energy-efficient protocols - Routing protocols for AWSNs - Safe transmissions of data in AWSNs - Self-organization of AWSNs - Smart energy-efficient routing protocols Publication Only original papers will be considered that have neither been published nor submitted for publication elsewhere, including web publication. All submissions will be handled electronically. The length of the paper is limited to 15 pages. All papers will be reviewed by at least two independent reviewers. Accepted papers will be published in Springer's Lecture Notes in Computer Science workshops proceedings. Submission of a paper should be regarded as a commitment that, should the paper be accepted, at least one of the authors will register and attend the conference to present the work. Authors of high quality papers presented in the workshop will be invited to submit extended version of their papers for publication in an international journal. Last year, selected papers were extended and accepted for publication in a special issue in the Journal of Information Fusion, Elsevier Science. Workshop Organizers: Elhadi Shakshuki, Acadia University, Canada Darcy Benoit, Acadia University, Canada Mieso Denko, University of Guelph, Canada _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Sun Mar 25 12:27:29 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVVV9-00015i-Vf; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 12:23:27 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVVV8-00015T-It for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 12:23:26 -0400 Received: from ece.uprm.edu ([136.145.57.24]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVVV3-00074I-7X for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 12:23:26 -0400 Received: from kejielupc (perazzamac2.ece.uprm.edu [136.145.57.158]) by ece.uprm.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id B217156082 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 12:23:18 -0400 (AST) Organization: UPR-Mayaguez Message-ID: <60fda2f40321e031113e13b900197e86@ece.uprm.edu> From: "Kejie Lu" To: Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 12:23:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2e8fc473f5174be667965460bd5288ba Subject: [manet] CFP MILCOM 2007 (Abstracts Due on Mar. 30) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lukejie@ece.uprm.edu List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org ** Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this message ** ** The deadline for submitting abstracts is 30 March 2007 (hard deadline) ** ** The link for submitting the unclassified papers is: = https://wams.jspargo.com/milcom07/login.asp ** =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D CALL for PAPERS MILCOM 2007 October 29=9631, 2007 Gaylord Palms Convention Center Orlando, Florida USA Conference Theme:=20 Interoperability: Policy to Performance MILCOM 2007 is soliciting both unclassified and classified papers (up to = DoD Secret) relevant to communications and information processing system = technologies and capabilities that address the 21st century challenges of = National Defense, Homeland Security, Disaster Response and = Interoperability. Industry, academic, and government organizations from = both the U.S. and countries around the globe are invited and encouraged to = participate=2E Important Dates: Abstracts Due: 30 March 2007 Draft Papers Due: 20 April 2007 Author Notification: 25 May 2007 Final Camera Ready Papers Due: 6 July 2007 Suggested technical areas of general interest include but are not limited to: =95 Interoperability =96 Policies and Standards =96 DoD and Federal Agencies =96 State and Local Governments =96 Emergency Grid Communications =96 Coalition Partners =96 Disaster Response =95 Service Oriented Architectures =95 Advanced Communications Technologies =95 Network Management =95 Mobile and Wireless Technologies =95 Radio Systems and Technologies =95 Network Centric Systems and Technologies =95 Applications and Operational Concepts =95 Systems, Programs and Initiatives =95 Information Management and Dissemination =95 Digital Signal Processing =95 Coding =95 Modulation =95 Advanced Waveforms =95 Next Generation Networks and Systems =95 Internet Protocols =95 Link Layer and Cross-Layer Protocols =95 Network Architectures and Routing =95 Transport Protocols and Performance =95 Quality of Service Architectures =95 Design Modeling and Simulation =95 Digital Video Broadcasting and Standards =95 IF/RF Technologies and Techniques =95 Advanced SATCOM systems =95 Airborne Technologies =95 Standards Based Datalinks =95 Mobile Satellite Systems =95 Space Networks and Protocols =95 Wireless Communications =95 Mobile Ad Hoc Networks =95 Computer and Network Security Systems =95 Software Defined Radios and Cognitive Radios =95 Sensor Networks =95 Advanced Antenna Technologies =95 Laser Communications and Optical Networks =95 Tests and Measurements =95 Ultra Wideband =95 Multimedia Communications and Management Technical Program Committee Technical Program Chair Dr. Vitas Mikenas Harris Corporation 321-729-7748 mikenas.milcom2007@harris.com Unclassified Program Chair Dr. Sastri Kota Harris Corporation 408-990-8301 kota.milcom2007@harris.com Classified Program Chair Terry Casto Harris Corporation 321-984-5600 casto.milcom2007@harris.com Panels Program Chair Leo deCardenas Harris Corporation 321-727-6202 decardenas.milcom2007@harris.com Tutorial Program Chair Rich Folio Harris Corporation 321-729-3629 folio.milcom2007@harris.com Unclassified Technical Program Submission Process:=20 The Web-based Abstract Management System (WAMS) (www.milcom.org) is used = to submit abstracts, full papers, and final camera ready papers. During = the abstract submission process, author and password information will need = to be entered and a Paper ID# will be assigned. This Paper ID# and = password will be used to upload papers. The abstract must NOT contain any = ITAR-related, classified, or proprietary information=2E Abstracts will only be used to help define the sessions. The Unclassified = Author=92s Kit provides instructions to authors for preparation of the = full and final manuscripts and the required forms. Full papers will be = reviewed for acceptance only when all appropriate forms have been = completed and received=2E Classified Technical Program Submission Process: All persons wishing to attend and/or participate in the Classified = Technical Program must, at a minimum, possess a current Secret personnel = security clearance and be a U.S. citizen. Non-U.S. originated papers will = NOT be accepted for the Classified Technical Program. All abstracts for = the Classified Technical Program must be unclassified. Please submit a = title and a brief unclassified abstract (up to 2000 characters) of your = intended paper via email to: casto.milcom2007@harris.com. Each submission = requires author name, affiliation, citizenship, address, phone and fax = numbers, email address, and the applicable area. For papers with more than = one author, indicate the point of contact. Do NOT use WAMS to submit = abstracts, full papers, or the final papers for the Classified Technical = Program. All papers for the Classified Technical Program must be prepared = following the instructions and formatting guidelines in the Classified = Author=92s Kit=2E Proposals for Tutorials and Panels:=20 MILCOM 2007 solicits proposals for unclassified half-day tutorials, and = unclassified and classified panels on state-of-the art communications, = networking, and interoperability technologies. The tutorial proposals = should include a brief outline of the tutorial, instructor biography, and = relevant instructor experience. The Unclassified Tutorials Kit provides the applicable forms and the formatting guidelines for the = tutorial material. Please forward your proposals to the MILCOM 2007 = Tutorial Program Chair, Rich Folio, at folio.milcom2007@harris.com=2E Proposals for Panels:=20 The proposals for panels should include a brief outline of the panel = discussion topics, panel participants, and panel moderator along with = their bios. A Panels Kit provides the information about the applicable = forms and the guidelines for the preparation of the panel material. 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Please consider to contribute and distribute to the appropriate groups the following CALL FOR PAPERS, TUTORIALS, PANELS The Second International Conference on Systems and Networks Communications ICSNC 2007 August 25-31, 2007 - Cap Esterel, French Riviera, France Site: http://www.iaria.org/conferences2007/ICSNC07.html Submission: http://www.iaria.org/conferences2007/SubmitICSNC07.html Important deadlines: Submission deadline: April 9, 2007 Notification of acceptance: May 15, 2007 Registration/camera ready: June 1, 2007 also featuring the workshop: HPC-Bio 2007: The First International Workshop on High Performance Computing Applied to Medical Data and Bioinformatics http://www.iaria.org/conferences2007/HPCBio.html ICSNC Tracks (details in the CfP on site) WINET: Wireless networks HSNET: High speed networks SENET: Sensor networks MHNET: Mobile and Ad hoc networks SESYS: Security systems MCSYS: Multimedia communications systems POSYS: Policy-based systems PESYS: Pervasive education systems ================================ ICSNC 2007 TPC Chairs Abdelhamid Mellouk, University of Paris XII - Val de Marne, France Ronny Fehling, Oracle, Canada Moon Ho Lee, Chonbuk National University, Korea Savola Reijo, VTT, Finland ------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Sun Mar 25 23:08:29 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVfTj-0006EW-8P; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:02:39 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVfTh-0006EO-Fg for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:02:37 -0400 Received: from ee.tamu.edu ([165.91.241.199]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVfTg-0002cS-2F for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:02:37 -0400 Received: from ECE149 (ece149.tamu.edu [165.91.208.72]) by ee.tamu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l2Q32LWx016367; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:02:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001601c76f53$322ce440$48d05ba5@ECE149> From: "Dr. Xi Zhang" To: Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:02:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: dbb8771284c7a36189745aa720dc20ab Cc: Subject: [manet] CFP IWCMC 2007, August 12-16, 2007, Honolulu, Hawaii, USA. (Deadline fast approaching) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org *Sorry for receiving multiple copies* Call For Papers for IWCMC 2007: Deadline is fast approaching _____________________ IWCMC 2007 (http://dropzone.tamu.edu/~xizhang/IWCMC07/IWCMC07.htm) August 12-16, 2007, Honolulu, Hawaii, USA Technical Sponsors: ACM (Approved) and IEEE (Pending) Submissions: EDAS (open now) "The Future is Now -- The New Era of Wireless Communications and Mobile Computing/Networking" The International Wireless Communications and Mobile Computing Conference 2007 (IWCMC 2007) will be held in Turtle Bay Resort Hotel, Honolulu, Hawaii, USA during August 12-16, 2007. Under our new theme of "The Future is Now -- The New Era of Wireless Communications and Mobile Computing/Networking" , IWCMC2007 is targeting at a wide spectrum of state-of-the-art as well as emerging topics pertaining to wireless networks, communications, and mobile computing. Continuing the great succeed of ACM IWCM 2006 last year, IWCMC 2007 is anticipated to attract an even larger volume of high quality submissions and stimulate the cutting-edge research discussions amongst many academic pioneering researchers/scientists and industrial engineers/leaders attendees from all around the world as was evidenced during ACM IWCMC 2006. The IWCMC 2007 program will feature a General Symposium, 8 Specific Technical Symposia, Workshop, and Tutorials Sessions. Prospective authors are invited to submit original technical papers to the corresponding IWCMC 2007 Symposia as listed below for oral presentation at IWCMC 2007 and publication in the IWCMC 2007 Conference Proceedings. IWCMC 2007 General Organizing Committee: General Co-Chairs: Mohsen Guizani, Western Michigan University, USA, Email: mguizani@ieee.org Hsiao-Hwa Chen, National Sun Yat-Sen University, Taiwan, Email: hshwchen@comm.nsysu.edu.tw Technical Program Committee Chair: Xi Zhang, Texas A&M University, USA, Email: xizhang@ece.tamu.edu Financial Chair: Eun K. Park, University of Missouri at Kansas City, USA, Email: ekpark@umkc.edu IWCMC 2007 Technical Symposia: General Symposium: Chair: Xuemin (Sherman) Shen, University of Waterloo, Canada, xshen@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Co-Chairs: DongmeFrom manet-bounces@ietf.org Sun Mar 25 23:08:29 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVfTj-0006EW-8P; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:02:39 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVfTh-0006EO-Fg for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:02:37 -0400 Received: from ee.tamu.edu ([165.91.241.199]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVfTg-0002cS-2F for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:02:37 -0400 Received: from ECE149 (ece149.tamu.edu [165.91.208.72]) by ee.tamu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l2Q32LWx016367; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:02:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001601c76f53$322ce440$48d05ba5@ECE149> From: "Dr. Xi Zhang" To: Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:02:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: dbb8771284c7a36189745aa720dc20ab Cc: Subject: [manet] CFP IWCMC 2007, August 12-16, 2007, Honolulu, Hawaii, USA. (Deadline fast approaching) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org *Sorry for receiving multiple copies* Call For Papers for IWCMC 2007: Deadline is fast approaching _____________________ IWCMC 2007 (http://dropzone.tamu.edu/~xizhang/IWCMC07/IWCMC07.htm) August 12-16, 2007, Honolulu, Hawaii, USA Technical Sponsors: ACM (Approved) and IEEE (Pending) Submissions: EDAS (open now) "The Future is Now -- The New Era of Wireless Communications and Mobile Computing/Networking" The International Wireless Communications and Mobile Computing Conference 2007 (IWCMC 2007) will be held in Turtle Bay Resort Hotel, Honolulu, Hawaii, USA during August 12-16, 2007. Under our new theme of "The Future is Now -- The New Era of Wireless Communications and Mobile Computing/Networking" , IWCMC2007 is targeting at a wide spectrum of state-of-the-art as well as emerging topics pertaining to wireless networks, communications, and mobile computing. Continuing the great succeed of ACM IWCM 2006 last year, IWCMC 2007 is anticipated to attract an even larger volume of high quality submissions and stimulate the cutting-edge research discussions amongst many academic pioneering researchers/scientists and industrial engineers/leaders attendees from all around the world as was evidenced during ACM IWCMC 2006. The IWCMC 2007 program will feature a General Symposium, 8 Specific Technical Symposia, Workshop, and Tutorials Sessions. Prospective authors are invited to submit original technical papers to the corresponding IWCMC 2007 Symposia as listed below for oral presentation at IWCMC 2007 and publication in the IWCMC 2007 Conference Proceedings. IWCMC 2007 General Organizing Committee: General Co-Chairs: Mohsen Guizani, Western Michigan University, USA, Email: mguizani@ieee.org Hsiao-Hwa Chen, National Sun Yat-Sen University, Taiwan, Email: hshwchen@comm.nsysu.edu.tw Technical Program Committee Chair: Xi Zhang, Texas A&M University, USA, Email: xizhang@ece.tamu.edu Financial Chair: Eun K. Park, University of Missouri at Kansas City, USA, Email: ekpark@umkc.edu IWCMC 2007 Technical Symposia: General Symposium: Chair: Xuemin (Sherman) Shen, University of Waterloo, Canada, xshen@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Co-Chairs: Dongmei Zhao, McMaster University, Canada, dzhao@mail.ece.mcmaster.ca Hai Jiang, Princeton University, USA, haijiang@princeton.edu (1) Communication and Information Theory Symposium: Chair: Hamid Sadjadpour, University of California, Santa Cruz, USA, hamid@soe.ucsc.edu Ravi Narasimhan, University of California, Santa Cruz, USA ravi@soe.ucsc.edu (2) Computer and Network Security Symposium: Chair: Xiaojiang (James) Du, North Dakota State University, USA, xiaojiang.du@ndsu.edu Co-Chairs: Yang Xiao, University of Alabama, USA, yangxiao@ieee.org, Yong Guan, Iowa State University, USA, guan@iastate.edu (3) Cross-Layer Optimized Wireless Networks Symposium: Chair: Xi Zhang, Texas A&M University, USA, xizhang@ece.tamu.edu (4) Mobile Computing Symposium: Chair: Jie Li, University of Tsukuba, Japan, lijie@cs.tsukuba.ac.jp (5) Multimedia over Wireless Symposium: Chairs: Haohong Wang, Marvell Technology Group, USA, haohongwang@yahoo.com (6) Next Generation Mobile Networks Symposium (Website Link): Chair: Victor Leung, The University of British Columbia, Canada, vleung@ece.ubc.ca Co-Chairs: Ekram Hossain, University of Manitoba, Canada, ekram@ee.umanitoba.ca Javan Erfanian, Bell Mobility, Canada, javan.erfanian@bell.ca (7) Wireless Sensor Networks Symposium: Chair: Yang Yang, University College London, United Kingdom, y.yang@ee.ucl.ac.uk (8) Wireless LANs and Wireless PANs Symposium: Chair: Ehab Elmallah, University of Alberta, Canada, Canada, ehab@cs.ualberta.ca Co-Chair: Yang Xiao, University of Alabama, USA, yangxiao@ieee.org (9) Workshop Chair: Song Ci, University of Nebraska-Lincoln, USA sci@engr.unl.edu Co-Chair: Yi Cui, Vanderbilt University, USA yi.cui@vanderbilt.edu IMPORTANT DATES: Full Paper Submission: March 30, 2007 (updated) Notification of Acceptance: May 30, 2007 Camera-Ready Version/Copyright Form Submission: TBA Registration Deadline for Authors: TBA Hotel Reservation Deadline: TBA _____________________ ========================================================================= Xi Zhang Assistant Professor Dept. of Elec. & Comput. Engin. Phone: 979-458-1416 Texas A&M University Fax: 979-845-2630 333N WERC Building Email: xizhang@ece.tamu.edu College Station, Texas 77843, USA URL http://dropzone.tamu.edu/~xizhang ========================================================================= _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Sun Mar 25 23:08:29 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVfWZ-0007GP-Ri; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:05:35 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVfWY-0007Fn-AU for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:05:34 -0400 Received: from ee.tamu.edu ([165.91.241.199]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVfWT-00038P-SW for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:05:34 -0400 Received: from ECE149 (ece149.tamu.edu [165.91.208.72]) by ee.tamu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l2Q34qVm016553; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:04:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002c01c76f53$8c457780$48d05ba5@ECE149> From: "Dr. Xi Zhang" To: Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:04:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Micri Zhao, McMaster University, Canada, dzhao@mail.ece.mcmaster.ca Hai Jiang, Princeton University, USA, haijiang@princeton.edu (1) Communication and Information Theory Symposium: Chair: Hamid Sadjadpour, University of California, Santa Cruz, USA, hamid@soe.ucsc.edu Ravi Narasimhan, University of California, Santa Cruz, USA ravi@soe.ucsc.edu (2) Computer and Network Security Symposium: Chair: Xiaojiang (James) Du, North Dakota State University, USA, xiaojiang.du@ndsu.edu Co-Chairs: Yang Xiao, University of Alabama, USA, yangxiao@ieee.org, Yong Guan, Iowa State University, USA, guan@iastate.edu (3) Cross-Layer Optimized Wireless Networks Symposium: Chair: Xi Zhang, Texas A&M University, USA, xizhang@ece.tamu.edu (4) Mobile Computing Symposium: Chair: Jie Li, University of Tsukuba, Japan, lijie@cs.tsukuba.ac.jp (5) Multimedia over Wireless Symposium: Chairs: Haohong Wang, Marvell Technology Group, USA, haohongwang@yahoo.com (6) Next Generation Mobile Networks Symposium (Website Link): Chair: Victor Leung, The University of British Columbia, Canada, vleung@ece.ubc.ca Co-Chairs: Ekram Hossain, University of Manitoba, Canada, ekram@ee.umanitoba.ca Javan Erfanian, Bell Mobility, Canada, javan.erfanian@bell.ca (7) Wireless Sensor Networks Symposium: Chair: Yang Yang, University College London, United Kingdom, y.yang@ee.ucl.ac.uk (8) Wireless LANs and Wireless PANs Symposium: Chair: Ehab Elmallah, University of Alberta, Canada, Canada, ehab@cs.ualberta.ca Co-Chair: Yang Xiao, University of Alabama, USA, yangxiao@ieee.org (9) Workshop Chair: Song Ci, University of Nebraska-Lincoln, USA sci@engr.unl.edu Co-Chair: Yi Cui, Vanderbilt University, USA yi.cui@vanderbilt.edu IMPORTANT DATES: Full Paper Submission: March 30, 2007 (updated) Notification of Acceptance: May 30, 2007 Camera-Ready Version/Copyright Form Submission: TBA Registration Deadline for Authors: TBA Hotel Reservation Deadline: TBA _____________________ ========================================================================= Xi Zhang Assistant Professor Dept. of Elec. & Comput. Engin. Phone: 979-458-1416 Texas A&M University Fax: 979-845-2630 333N WERC Building Email: xizhang@ece.tamu.edu College Station, Texas 77843, USA URL http://dropzone.tamu.edu/~xizhang ========================================================================= _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Sun Mar 25 23:08:29 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVfWZ-0007GP-Ri; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:05:35 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVfWY-0007Fn-AU for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:05:34 -0400 Received: from ee.tamu.edu ([165.91.241.199]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVfWT-00038P-SW for manet@ietf.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:05:34 -0400 Received: from ECE149 (ece149.tamu.edu [165.91.208.72]) by ee.tamu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l2Q34qVm016553; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:04:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002c01c76f53$8c457780$48d05ba5@ECE149> From: "Dr. Xi Zhang" To: Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:04:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3fbd9b434023f8abfcb1532abaec7a21 Cc: Subject: [manet] CFP QShine 2007, August 14-17, 2007, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada (deadline postponed) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org *Sorry for receiving multiple copies* Call for Papers for QShine 2007 ------------ The Fourth International Conference on Heterogeneous Networking for Quality, Reliability, Security and Robustness (QShine 2007) http://www.qshine.org/ Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, August 14-17, 2007 Sponsored by Create-Net and ICST Technically Co-Sponsored by IEEE and ACM ******* Overview The Fourth International Conference on Heterogeneous Networking for Quality, Reliability, Security and Robustness (QShine 2007) will focus on the research challenges associated the design and implementation of large-scale wired and wireless networks and distributed systems. Following the tradition of the previous QShine meetings, QShine 2007 will feature prominent invited speakers as well as papers by top researchers in the field. ******* Scope The QShine program committee solicits original papers describing both experimental and theoretical results that address a wide spectrum of fundamental issues associated with the design and implementation of large scale heterogeneous networks and distributed systems. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to, the following: Quality of Service provisioning Design, implementation or architectures related to QoS-enabled networks and distributed systems Scheduling, resource management, queue management, and admission control Game-theoretic aspects in wired/peer-to-peer/overlay/wireless networks and distributed systems Incentive engineering in wired/peer-to-peer/overlay/wireless networks and distributed systems QoS routing in wired/peer-to-peer/overlay/wireless networks and distributed systems Traffic analysis, traffic engineering, and traffic shaping in heterogeneous environments Middleware for wired, peer-to-peer, overlay, and wireless networks and distributed systems QoS-aware service composition in distributed systems Security protocols and algorithms in wired, overlay and wireless networks Pricing, billing, and resource allocation in wired, overlay and wireless networks QoS adaptation, modeling and measurements Performance optimization in peer-to-peer and overlay networks Scalability of large-scale overlay and wireless networks Resilience of overlay and wireless protocols Cross-layer protocol design in wireless networks Energy-aware protocols and algorithms in wireless networks Cross-layer performance optimization for energy, network lifetime, and capacity Topology control for QoS support in wireless networks QoS in WLAN, WPAN, WMAN and WiMAX (IEEE 802.11/15/16/20) QoS support across heterogeneous wired and wireless subnetworks MAC protocols with QoS support QoS and survivability in mobile environments Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings. Papers of particular merit will be selected for consideration of fast track publication in ACM/Springer Mobile Networks and Applications (approved) or Elsevier Computer Networks (pending approval). ******* Keynote Speaker Dr. Victor Bahl, Microsoft (http://research.microsoft.com/~bahl) ******* Paper Submission QShine 2007 invites manuscripts that present original materials not previously published in, or currently under review by, another conference or journal. Submissions should be either full-length papers of up to 7 pages or short papers of up to 4 pages (including aosoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3fbd9b434023f8abfcb1532abaec7a21 Cc: Subject: [manet] CFP QShine 2007, August 14-17, 2007, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada (deadline postponed) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org *Sorry for receiving multiple copies* Call for Papers for QShine 2007 ------------ The Fourth International Conference on Heterogeneous Networking for Quality, Reliability, Security and Robustness (QShine 2007) http://www.qshine.org/ Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, August 14-17, 2007 Sponsored by Create-Net and ICST Technically Co-Sponsored by IEEE and ACM ******* Overview The Fourth International Conference on Heterogeneous Networking for Quality, Reliability, Security and Robustness (QShine 2007) will focus on the research challenges associated the design and implementation of large-scale wired and wireless networks and distributed systems. Following the tradition of the previous QShine meetings, QShine 2007 will feature prominent invited speakers as well as papers by top researchers in the field. ******* Scope The QShine program committee solicits original papers describing both experimental and theoretical results that address a wide spectrum of fundamental issues associated with the design and implementation of large scale heterogeneous networks and distributed systems. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to, the following: Quality of Service provisioning Design, implementation or architectures related to QoS-enabled networks and distributed systems Scheduling, resource management, queue management, and admission control Game-theoretic aspects in wired/peer-to-peer/overlay/wireless networks and distributed systems Incentive engineering in wired/peer-to-peer/overlay/wireless networks and distributed systems QoS routing in wired/peer-to-peer/overlay/wireless networks and distributed systems Traffic analysis, traffic engineering, and traffic shaping in heterogeneous environments Middleware for wired, peer-to-peer, overlay, and wireless networks and distributed systems QoS-aware service composition in distributed systems Security protocols and algorithms in wired, overlay and wireless networks Pricing, billing, and resource allocation in wired, overlay and wireless networks QoS adaptation, modeling and measurements Performance optimization in peer-to-peer and overlay networks Scalability of large-scale overlay and wireless networks Resilience of overlay and wireless protocols Cross-layer protocol design in wireless networks Energy-aware protocols and algorithms in wireless networks Cross-layer performance optimization for energy, network lifetime, and capacity Topology control for QoS support in wireless networks QoS in WLAN, WPAN, WMAN and WiMAX (IEEE 802.11/15/16/20) QoS support across heterogeneous wired and wireless subnetworks MAC protocols with QoS support QoS and survivability in mobile environments Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings. Papers of particular merit will be selected for consideration of fast track publication in ACM/Springer Mobile Networks and Applications (approved) or Elsevier Computer Networks (pending approval). ******* Keynote Speaker Dr. Victor Bahl, Microsoft (http://research.microsoft.com/~bahl) ******* Paper Submission QShine 2007 invites manuscripts that present original materials not previously published in, or currently under review by, another conference or journal. Submissions should be either full-length papers of up to 7 pages or short papers of up to 4 pages (including all figures and references) formatted according to http://www.acm.org/sigs/pubs/proceed/template.html with font sizes of 10 or larger. Full-length papers should report on completed work and will be considered for oral presentations. Short papers should report on work in progress or discuss open problems, and will be considered for poster presentations. A separate abstract of no longer than 200 words should be submitted as well. Submissions will be judged by their originality, significance, interest, clarity, relevance, and correctness. All papers should be electronically submitted in Adobe PDF format. Please follow the submission instructions at http://www.qshine.org/submission.html to submit your paper. ******* Important Dates Paper submission deadline: postponed to April 2, 2007 Notification of acceptance: May 11, 2007 Camera-ready papers due: May 31, 2007 Conference: August 14-17, 2007 ******* Organizing Committee General Chair Victor C. M. Leung, University of British Columbia, Canada General Vice-Chair Sastri Kota, Harris Corporation, USA Steering Committee Imrich Chlamtac, (Co-Chair) CreateNet, Italy Michael Fang, (Co-Chair) University of Florida, USA Xuemin (Sherman) Shen, (Co-Chair) University of Waterloo, Canada, Hisashi Kobayashi, Princeton University, USA Ariel Orda, Technion, Israel TPC Co-Chairs Guoliang Xue Arizona State University, USA Jelena Misic, University of Manitoba, Canada Poster Chair Ekram Hossain, University of Manitoba, Canada Publicity Chair Xi Zhang, Texas A&M University, USA Local Arrangement Chair Lin Cai, University of Victoria, Canada Workshop Chair Giovanni Giambene, Universita' degli Studi di Siena, Italy Sponsorship Chair Panos Nasiopoulos, University of British Columbia, Canada Publications Chair Qian Zhang, Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, China Finance Chair Karen Decker, ICST, USA Conference Coordination and Registration Kitti H. Kovacs, ICST, USA ========================================================================= Xi Zhang Assistant Professor Dept. of Elec. & Comput. Engin. Phone: 979-458-1416 Texas A&M University Fax: 979-845-2630 333N WERC Building Email: xizhang@ece.tamu.edu College Station, Texas 77843, USA URL http://dropzone.tamu.edu/~xizhang ========================================================================= _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet ll figures and references) formatted according to http://www.acm.org/sigs/pubs/proceed/template.html with font sizes of 10 or larger. Full-length papers should report on completed work and will be considered for oral presentations. Short papers should report on work in progress or discuss open problems, and will be considered for poster presentations. A separate abstract of no longer than 200 words should be submitted as well. Submissions will be judged by their originality, significance, interest, clarity, relevance, and correctness. All papers should be electronically submitted in Adobe PDF format. Please follow the submission instructions at http://www.qshine.org/submission.html to submit your paper. ******* Important Dates Paper submission deadline: postponed to April 2, 2007 Notification of acceptance: May 11, 2007 Camera-ready papers due: May 31, 2007 Conference: August 14-17, 2007 ******* Organizing Committee General Chair Victor C. M. Leung, University of British Columbia, Canada General Vice-Chair Sastri Kota, Harris Corporation, USA Steering Committee Imrich Chlamtac, (Co-Chair) CreateNet, Italy Michael Fang, (Co-Chair) University of Florida, USA Xuemin (Sherman) Shen, (Co-Chair) University of Waterloo, Canada, Hisashi Kobayashi, Princeton University, USA Ariel Orda, Technion, Israel TPC Co-Chairs Guoliang Xue Arizona State University, USA Jelena Misic, University of Manitoba, Canada Poster Chair Ekram Hossain, University of Manitoba, Canada Publicity Chair Xi Zhang, Texas A&M University, USA Local Arrangement Chair Lin Cai, University of Victoria, Canada Workshop Chair Giovanni Giambene, Universita' degli Studi di Siena, Italy Sponsorship Chair Panos Nasiopoulos, University of British Columbia, Canada Publications Chair Qian Zhang, Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, China Finance Chair Karen Decker, ICST, USA Conference Coordination and Registration Kitti H. Kovacs, ICST, USA ========================================================================= Xi Zhang Assistant Professor Dept. of Elec. & Comput. Engin. Phone: 979-458-1416 Texas A&M University Fax: 979-845-2630 333N WERC Building Email: xizhang@ece.tamu.edu College Station, Texas 77843, USA URL http://dropzone.tamu.edu/~xizhang ========================================================================= _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 26 02:29:45 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVieb-0001WS-6c; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 02:26:05 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVieY-0001WN-V5 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 02:26:02 -0400 Received: from mx4.iit.cnr.it ([146.48.98.151] helo=smtp.iit.cnr.it) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVieU-0006oE-CK for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 02:26:02 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.iit.cnr.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F35512F085 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 08:25:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.iit.cnr.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx4.iit.cnr.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02229-01 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 08:25:48 +0200 (CEST) X-SMTP-Auth: no Received: from mx4.iit.cnr.it (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.iit.cnr.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E1812F12C for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 08:25:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bruno.iit.cnr.it (HELO [146.48.98.79]) (146.48.98.79) (smtp-auth username raffaele.bruno@iit.cnr.it, mechanism plain) by mx4.iit.cnr.it (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; lun, 26 mar 2007 08:25:47 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: manet@ietf.org From: Raffaele Bruno Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 08:25:48 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx4.iit.cnr.it X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b1c41982e167b872076d0018e4e1dc3c Subject: [manet] =?windows-1252?q?CFP_-_MASS-GHS=9207=3A_First_Internatio?= =?windows-1252?q?nal_Workshop_on_Mobile_Ad_hoc_and_Sensor_Systems_for_Glo?= =?windows-1252?q?bal_and_Homeland_Security_?= X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Please accept our apologies if you receive multiple copies of this CFP. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- First International Workshop on Mobile Ad hoc and Sensor Systems for =20 Global and Homeland Security (MASS-GHS=9207) http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/~holder/mass-ghs07 Pisa, Italy =96 October 12, 2007 In conjunction with the 4th IEEE Conference on Mobile Ad-hoc and =20 Sensor Systems (MASS=9207) http://cnd.iit.cnr.it/mass2007/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- THEME AND SCOPE The development, deployment and coordination of mobile ad hoc and =20 sensor systems (MASS) has been studied for a number of years, and =20 much of this research is beginning to transition into real solutions =20 for a variety of domains. One domain that is ripe for MASS research =20 and development is global and homeland security. Much of the security =20= mission involves the monitoring of various environments (e.g., ports, =20= borders, mass transit hubs, financial centers, power grids, the =20 Internet) and the prediction and detection of threats to these =20 environments. MASS represent a general solution to maintaining =20 security in these environments. In this workshop we seek to bring together researchers and =20 practitioners representing the state-of-the-art in MASS research and =20 technology targeted toward the global and homeland security domain. =20 Specific topics of interest include (but are not limited to) the =20 following. All papers must have a clear, stated, and ideally tested =20 application to global and homeland security. =B7 Development of novel sensors and sensor systems for threat =20 detection =B7 Efficient and effective deployment of mobile devices and = sensors =B7 Heterogeneous systems for surveillance and threat detection =B7 Novel architectures for use of MASS in Global and Homeland =20 security =B7 Secure and fault tolerant coordination and communication =B7 Information fusion for prediction and detection of threats =B7 Integration and registration of data from multiple sources =B7 Effective decision-making in dynamic environments =B7 Testing and evaluation of MASS for security =B7 Simulation and modeling of MASS, environments, and scenarios =B7 Simulation and modeling of threats and environments relevant =20= to sensor response =B7 Simulation and modeling of temporal threat events relevant to =20= sensor response =B7 Prototype models of secure environments =B7 Secure smart environments =B7 Disaster mitigation and emergency response PAPER SUBMISSIONS Papers are limited to eight (8) pages and must be formatted according =20= to the main conference=92s formatting requirements and submitted via =20 the EDAS paper management system (see workshop website for details). =20 Accepted papers will be published by IEEE in the MASS=9207 conference =20= proceedings. At least one author of each accepted paper must register =20= for the conference at the full conference rate. Pending approval of a =20= special issue of the Pervasive and Mobile Computing Journal, authors =20 of high-quality papers presented at the workshop will be invited to =20 submit extended versions for this special issue. IMPORTANT DATES Submission due: May 15, 2007 Acceptance Notification: July 15, 2007 Final Manuscript due: August 10, 2007 Workshop: October 12, 2007 WORKSHOP CO-CHAIRS Larry Holder, Washington State Univ., USA (holder@wsu.edu) Mohan Kumar, Univ. of Texas at Arlington, USA (mkumar@uta.edu) Raffaele Bruno, Institute for Informatics and Telematics, Italy =20 (raffaele.bruno@iit.cnr.it) PROGRAM COMMITTEE Cesare Alippi, Politecnico di Milano, Italy Giuseppe Anastasi, Univ. of Pisa, Italy Paolo Bellavista, Univ. of Bologna, Italy Sajal Das, Univ. of Texas at Arlington, USA Silvia Giordano, Univ. of Applied Science, Switzerland Ajay Gupta, Western Michigan Univ., USA Jadwiga Indulska, Queensland Unversity, Australia William Kaiser, Univ. of California Los Angeles, USA Yonghe Liu, Univ. of Texas at Arlington, USA Murali Medidi, Washington State Univ., USA Sirisha Medidi, Washington State Univ., USA Scott Midkiff, Virginia Tech, USA Vinayak Naik, Univ. of California Los Angeles, USA Stephan Olariu, Old Dominion Univ., USA Leslie Owens, Booz Allen Hamilton, USA Marimuthu Palaniswami, Univ. of Melbourne, Australia Adrian Pearce, Univ. of Melbourne, Australia Marius Portmann, Univ. of Queensland, Australia Mohammad Rahimi, Univ. of California Los Angeles, USA Mallikarjun Shankar, Oak Ridge National Laboratory, USA Behrooz Shirazi, Washington State Univ., USA Mukesh Singhal, Univ. of Kentucky, USA --------------------------------------------------------- Raffaele Bruno, Ph.D., Researcher Pervasive Computing & Networking Lab. 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Moruzzi 1, 56124 Pisa, ITALY Tel.: +39 050 315 3078 (direct) Fax.: +39 050 315 2593 (institute) Email: raffaele.bruno@iit.cnr.it Website: bruno1.iit.cnr.it/~bruno/ _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 26 04:01:35 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVk6j-0004QJ-4z; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 03:59:13 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVk6i-0004QE-32 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 03:59:12 -0400 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.236]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVk6g-0002GU-PA for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 03:59:12 -0400 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h31so2089840wxd for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 00:59:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Ef+FONz/lGuIhl5jASQ5NXcul61ZzIG0cS72GLxJhpUTlkpQHs0QUdbaaFMXnj0hRKB7ZOMronQ4M0/xyqVG/u7IozyZyJAACOPnbVOi8O//m4dRaCMkp5WiUASlrXb0oq393mbUHVjeqESf9Lbl2y1q4nrBBG+FGpBmksSr/Oc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=CNn9/+ph+DkCBURWXQ5OCv1B5envM80c6hwPyuAEGBUi5TlF4HqWxr0PocEDy2/RK1hNwyMCnWMMVspUBG/1katl5BRLPMd2QbQT46JzJGfUtvVR0zcLx2xKr/RqhuqeUCTuY8BMI69SE9NRLDzlkKTDM2IElN1e8o0Y+TrfAcs= Received: by 10.90.69.8 with SMTP id r8mr74584aga.1174895950441; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 00:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.97.6 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 00:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:59:10 +0800 From: "Teck-Yoong Chai" To: manet@ietf.org, itc@comsoc.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 20f22c03b5c66958bff5ef54fcda6e48 Cc: Subject: [manet] CHINACOM 2007 submission due in 5 days X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D My apology if you receive multiple copies of this message =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D CHINACOM 2007 Call For Papers August 22-24, 2007, Shanghai, China - http://www.chinacom.org Co-Sponsors: Create-Net ICST Technical Sponsors: IEEE IEEE MTT-S IEEE CAS IEEE CVTC Shanghai Jiao Tong University Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications. IMPORTANT DATES Submission: March 31st, 2007 Notification: May 31st, 2007 Camera Ready: June 30th, 2007 Conference: August, 22-24, 2007 All ACCEPTED and PRESENTED papers will be included in the CHINACOM 2007 Conference Proceedings and made available in IEEExplore Digital Library and then be indexed by Engineering Information (EI). Selected papers from CHINACOM2007 will be considered for Computer Networks and Ad Hoc Networks. Relevant papers will also be considered for a special issue on Advanced in Wireless Mesh Networks, ACM/Springer Mobile Networks and Applications (MONET). CHINACOM is being positioned as the premier international annual conference for the presentation of original and fundamental research advances in the field of Communications, Networks, and Internet Applications. The conference will consist of Technical Symposia and Workshops. PAPERS: The conference invites original technical papers that were not previously published and are not currently under review for publication elsewhere. Authors are invited to submit papers to the following symposia: - Frontiers on Communications and Networking - Optical Communications and Networking - Wireless Communications and Networking - Advances in Internet - Communication Theory and Signal Processing for Communications - Networking Security and Information Assurance PANELS/WORKSHOPS: Proposals for panels/workshops are solicited. Potential chairs are requested to submit a proposal to one of the panel/workshop Chairs by March 15th, 2007 for review (leizd@i2r.a-star.edu.sg; bernard.uguen@univ-rennes1.fr; haifeng.wang@nokia.com; wasim.malik@eng.ox.ac.uk). SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS: Conference language is English. Prospective authors are encouraged to submit a PDF version of the full paper in IEEE conference proceedings format, which are limited to 5 two-column pages in a 10-points font. All paper submissions will be handled electronically. Please submit the paper through the COCUS System,http://cocus.info. Visit the conference website http://www.chinacom.org/submission.shtml for detailed submission requirements and procedures. STUDENT TRAVEL GRANTS: Applications are invited from qualified graduate students. Up to 10 awards are expected. GENERAL CO-CHAIRS Wenjun Zhang, Vice President, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Sherman Shen, University of Waterloo GENERAL Vice CO-CHAIRS Jianping Chen, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Honggang Zhang, Create-Net TPC CO-CHAIRS Andreas F. Molisch, MERL/Lund University Xiaodong Wang, Columbia University Matti Latva-aho,University of Oulu SYMPOSIUM CO-CHAIRS Zhihua Guo, Lenovo Stefan Mangold, Swisscom Innovations Jun Zheng, University of Ottawa Indra Widjaja, Bell Labs, Alcatel-Lucent Yikai Su, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Pin-Han Ho, University of Waterloo Petri Mahonen, RWTH Aachen University Chonggang Wang, University of Arkansas Wenye Wang, North Carolina State University Jiannong Cao, Hong Kong Polytechnic University Junzhong Gu, East China Normal University Alex Galis, University College London Thomas Kaiser, Leibniz University of Hannover Zongxin Wang, Fudan University Mischa Dohler, France Telecom Zhenfu Cao, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Peter Stavroulakis, Technical University of Crete Radha Poovendran, University of Washington STEERING COMMITTEE Imrich Chlamtac, Create-Net Yabin Ye, Create-Net Zheng Zhou, BUPT Bo Li, HKUST WORKSHOPS CO-CHAIRS Haifeng Wang, Nokia Wasim Q. Malik, Oxford University PANELS CO-CHAIRS Zhongding Lei, I2R Bernard Uguen, Universit=E9 de Rennes 1 PUBLICITY CO-CHAIRS Marina Petrova, RWTH Aachen University Teck Yoong Chai, I2R PUBLICATION CHAIR Chunsheng Xin, Norfolk State University Bin Wang, Wright State University LOCAL ARRANGEMENT CO-CHAIRS Xiaokang Yang, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Shenghong Li, Shanghai Jiao Tong University Xinbing Wang, Shanghai Jiao Tong University INTERN. ARRANGEMENT CHAIR Zsuzsi Kaszab, ICST INTERNATIONAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE Ian Akyildiz, Georgia Institute of Technology Yeheskel (Zeke) Bar-Ness, NJIT Bob Brodersen, UC Berkeley Junliang Chen, BUPT Roberto Coisson, Italian Embassy in China Jon Crowcroft, University of Cambridge Leonard Kleinrock, UCLA Hisashi Kobayashi, Princeton University Byeong Gi Lee, Seoul National University Jintong Lin, BUPT Guangnan Ni, Inst. of Computing Technology Hequan Wu, Chinese Academy of Engineering Ya-Qin Zhang, Microsoft _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 26 09:42:19 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVpQY-0001Cf-63; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:40:02 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVpQW-000171-Id for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:40:00 -0400 Received: from engmail.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.50.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVpQU-0008EU-1i for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:40:00 -0400 Received: from levy7 (levy7.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.106.189]) (authenticated bits=0) by engmail.uwaterloo.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2QDdtOc087453 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:39:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from j7luo@engmail.uwaterloo.ca) Message-ID: <010d01c76fac$38e94c20$bd6a6181@levy7> From: "Jun LUO \(UWaterloo\)" To: Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:39:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90, clamav-milter version devel-120207 on engmail.uwaterloo.ca X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8b6657e60309a1317174c9db2ae5f227 Subject: [manet] Call For Papers -- Deadline is extended to April 6th -- WiMAN 2007: Workshop on Wireless Mesh and Ad Hoc Networks X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this CFP] Dear Colleagues: Due to many requests, the deadline for paper submission to WiMAN 2007 has been extended to April 6th, 2007. Please submit your paper through the EDAS system. Detailed submission instructions could be found on the workshop webpage. Thanks, Jun Luo ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First International Workshop on Wireless Mesh and Ad Hoc Networks (WiMAN'07) Honolulu, Hawaii, USA, August 16, 2007 in conjunction with ICCCN 2007. http://www.cs.iusb.edu/~liqzhang/WiMAN2007/index.htm Submission Deadline: April 6th, 2007 (extended) Distinguished papers will be invited to extend to full version for a special issue of Elsevier's Computer Communications Journal (ComCom). *************************************************************** Recently, wireless mesh networking is attracting significant interest from academia, industry, and standard organizations. With several favorable characteristics, such as dynamic self-organization, self-configuration, self-healing, easy maintenance, high scalability and reliable services, wireless mesh networks have been advocated as a cost-effective approach to support high-speed last mile connectivity and ubiquitous broadband access in the context of home networking, enterprise networking, or community networking. Despite recent advances, and the technical accumulations from more than a decade's research effort in mobile ad hoc networks, many research issues remain in all protocol layers of wireless mesh networks. For example, the introducing of mixed (infrastructure and ad hoc) architecture, multi-radio, multi-channel, and multi-antenna, have brought new challenges in the design of physical, MAC, and routing protocols. New application scenarios, such as all-wireless office, are urging researchers to address enhanced QoS support and various security issues in the design of different protocol layers for wireless mesh networks. This workshop aims to bring together the technologies and researchers who share interest in the area of wireless mesh and ad hoc networks. The main purpose is to promote discussions of research and relevant activities in the design of architectures, protocols, algorithms, services, and applications for wireless networks. It also aims at increasing the synergy between academic and industry professionals working in this area. We plan to seek papers that address theoretical, experimental, and work in-progress at the all layers of wireless mesh and ad hoc networks, from application layer to the physical layer. Topics covered by the workshop will include, but are not limited to, the following: Multi-radio and multi-channel wireless mesh networking Wireless LAN, PAN, MAN and WAN Multi-hop wireless communications and ad hoc networking MAC protocols (IEEE 802.11, 802.15, 802.16, 802.20, and beyond) Routing, scheduling, and channel assignment protocols Implications of smart antennas on MAC and routing protocols Quality of Services provisioning Multimedia communications over mesh and ad hoc networks Network deployment, localization, and synchronization Topology construction and maintenance Methods and tools for mesh and ad hoc networks simulation Modeling and performance evaluations Physical layer techniques Cross layer optimizations Power-aware and energy-efficient protocols and algorithms Self-organization, self-configuration network architectures Intelligent system techniques for mesh and ad hoc networks Security-related issues in mesh and ad hoc networks Testbed, prototype, and practical systems Novel applications of mesh and ad hoc networks Wireless sensor networks and RFID Important Dates --------------- Paper submission due: 11:59PM (GMT-05:00), April 6, 2007 (extended) Acceptance notification: May 11, 2007 Camera-ready due: June 1, 2007 Workshop: August 16, 2007 Submissions and Publications ---------------------------- Technical papers describing original, previously unpublished research, not currently under review somewhere else, are solicited. Submissions should include an abstract, key words, the e-mail address of the corresponding author. The length of the papers should be limited up to 6 pages in standard IEEE camera-ready format (double-column, 10-pt font). Please check the workshop webpage for detailed submission instructions. http://www.cs.iusb.edu/~liqzhang/WiMAN2007/index.htm Submission of a paper should be regarded as an undertaking that, should the paper be accepted, at least one of the authors will register and attend the workshop to present the work. All papers will be peer reviewed and the comments will be provided to the authors. All accepted papers will be published in workshop proceeding by IEEE Communications Society and IEEE Digital Library, or Springer's Lecture Notes in Computer Science. Distinguished papers will be invited to extend to full version for a special issue of Elsevier's Computer Communications Journal (ComCom) on Wireless Mesh Networks. The special issue will be published in early 2008. Organizing Committees --------------------- Workshop Program Co-Chairs Liqiang Zhang, Indiana University South Bend, USA (liqzhang@cs.iusb.edu) Dakai Zhu, University of Texas at San Antonio, USA (dzhu@cs.utsa.edu) Publicity Chair Jun Luo, University of Waterloo, Canada (j7luo@engmail.uwaterloo.ca) Technical Program Committee Malik Audeh, Tropos Networks, USA Edoardo S. Biagioni, University of Hawaii at Manoa, USA Luciano Bononi, University of Bologna, Italy Raffaele Bruno, IIT-CNR, Italy Surendar Chandra, University of Notre Dame, USA Guihai Chen, Nanjing University, China Christian Hartmann, Technical University of Munich, Germany Anders Host-Madsen, University of Hawaii at Manoa, USA Holger Karl, University of Paderborn, Germany Daeyoung Kim, Information and Communications University, Korea Sandeep Kulkarni, Michigan State University, USA Hyunjeong hannah Lee, Intel Research, USA Guoqing Li, Intel Research, USA Hock Beng Lim, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore Wei Lou, Hong Kong Polytechnic University, Hongkong Jun Luo, University of Waterloo, Canada Frank Reichenbach, University of Rostock, Germany Paolo Santi, IIT-CNR, Italy Kaoru Sezaki, University of Tokyo, Japan Weisong Shi, Wayne State University, USA Pavan Sikka, CSIRO, Australia David Surma, Indiana University South Bend, USA Ali Tosun, University of Texas at San Antonio, USA Jean-Phillippe Vasseur, Cisco Systems, USA Zhijun Wang, Hong Kong Polytechnic University, Hongkong Yuan Xue, Vanderbilt University, USA Stephen Yang, National Central University, Taiwan Advisory Committee Hossein Hakimzadeh, Indiana University South Bend, USA Sharon Hu, University of Notre Dame, USA Yingbo Hua, University of California Riverside, USA Sitharama Iyengar, Louisiana State University, USA Bahar Sadeghi, Intel Research, USA Loren Schwiebert, Wayne State University, USA Wei Zhao, Texas A&M University, USA **************************************************************************************** _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 26 10:45:02 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVqQ6-0002dl-RG; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:43:38 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVqQ5-0002bn-1L; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:43:37 -0400 Received: from smtp.nokia.com ([131.228.20.173] helo=mgw-ext14.nokia.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVqQ3-0002cC-Hx; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:43:37 -0400 Received: from esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh108.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.145]) by mgw-ext14.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.5/Switch-3.2.5) with ESMTP id l2QEhBgp002084; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:43:33 +0300 Received: from daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.241.35.111]) by esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:43:14 +0300 Received: from daebe101.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.241.35.113]) by daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:43:12 -0500 Received: from [10.162.91.46] ([10.162.91.46]) by daebe101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:43:11 -0500 Message-ID: <4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:43:00 -0700 From: "Charles E. Perkins" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ext Joe Macker References: <019c01c76d85$0e6904f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT> In-Reply-To: <019c01c76d85$0e6904f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2007 14:43:12.0437 (UTC) FILETIME=[14572E50:01C76FB5] X-eXpurgate-Category: 1/0 X-eXpurgate-ID: 149371::070326174333-071D2BB0-20F12492/0-0/0-1 X-Nokia-AV: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 02ec665d00de228c50c93ed6b5e4fc1a Cc: 'manet' , manet-dt@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hello folks, Once again, I urge that we place as much consideration as possible on reducing message size to the maximum extent. I have myself been reluctant to spend a lot of time on reviewing the document because I worry that my comments will not be taken as constructive. Ian has expressed his concern that I am too late to make any suggestions for substantial change. I believe that the TLV structure is very expensive in terms of byte overhead. I also think that parseability is far less important than message size, although both are important. I would rate the relative importance as 90% vs. 10% for the parseability/size tradeoff. Similar considerations may apply to NHDP. It is pretty clear that the trend has been to be more "IETF"-like in the message design, at the expense of message size. In my opinion, this is inappropriate if we want our work to be applicable for sensors or 6lowpan or other low-power devices. When one byte of airtime consumes as much energy as millions of processor cycles, it makes sense to favor additional processing to reduce message size. IETF protocols typically favor human readability of the protocol document at the expense of message size, and for many applications this is wholly inappropriate. I would be very interested to hear opinions from other members of the working group about this. Regards, Charlie P. ext Joe Macker wrote: > At the manet WG meeting we discussed a workplan prior to moving SMF to Last > Call for Experimental consideration. While some readability improvements may > be done the authors request that the WG provide comments as soon as > possible. Positive and general comments are encouraged along with others. > If you an implementor and find something confusing we are interested in > hearing from you. > > Please see the recent briefings on line from the last meeting to understand > the recent changes and upcoming plan. > > Thanks, > Joe > > > > _______________________________________________ > Manet-dt mailing list > Manet-dt@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 26 10:56:09 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVqb2-00024p-Tv; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:54:56 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVqb0-00024Z-Mp; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:54:54 -0400 Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com ([64.102.122.149]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVqaz-0004aB-CC; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:54:54 -0400 Received: from rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com ([64.102.121.158]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 26 Mar 2007 10:54:53 -0400 Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com (rtp-core-2.cisco.com [64.102.124.13]) by rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l2QEsr2G023872; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:54:53 -0400 Received: from xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-201.cisco.com [64.102.31.12]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id l2QEshlo015298; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:54:53 GMT Received: from xmb-rtp-208.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.43]) by xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:54:52 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:54:52 -0400 Message-ID: <7FB7EE0A621BA44B8B69E5F0A09DC76403871D97@xmb-rtp-208.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request Thread-Index: AcdvtVeezf69/gKtRy2cBVfR09bgJgAAU8Pw From: "Stan Ratliff \(sratliff\)" To: "Charles E. Perkins" , "ext Joe Macker" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2007 14:54:52.0929 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5DDC710:01C76FB6] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=2585; t=1174920893; x=1175784893; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim1001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=sratliff@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Stan=20Ratliff=20\(sratliff\)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[manet]=20Re=3A=20[Manet-dt]=20Review=20Request |Sender:=20 |To:=20=22Charles=20E.=20Perkins=22=20, =0A=20= 20=20=20=20=20=20=20=22ext=20Joe=20Macker=22=20; bh=P9sF65vUOGH8aRYWO+Z35PDtJS6AzFYzqY9QI2rm038=; b=mnI58JZrpvCm9RqLJs2EZtxbXHpWwrIE7UC43Mp9TwgKpIYjAjBipBDpMDvqAtn18sXTevdR 1ae7wu3gnhQOvhbHKkdj64N+d18r3wJ7EBbrRjid6vjiC+PbObhWTrMV; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-1; header.From=sratliff@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/rtpdkim1001 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b7b9551d71acde901886cc48bfc088a6 Cc: manet , manet-dt@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org I agree completely with Charlie.=20 Regards, Stan =20 -----Original Message----- From: Charles E. Perkins [mailto:charles.perkins@nokia.com]=20 Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 10:43 AM To: ext Joe Macker Cc: 'manet'; manet-dt@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request Hello folks, Once again, I urge that we place as much consideration as possible on reducing message size to the maximum extent. I have myself been reluctant to spend a lot of time on reviewing the document because I worry that my comments will not be taken as constructive. Ian has expressed his concern that I am too late to make any suggestions for substantial change. I believe that the TLV structure is very expensive in terms of byte overhead. I also think that parseability is far less important than message size, although both are important. I would rate the relative importance as 90% vs. 10% for the parseability/size tradeoff. Similar considerations may apply to NHDP. It is pretty clear that the trend has been to be more "IETF"-like in the message design, at the expense of message size. In my opinion, this is inappropriate if we want our work to be applicable for sensors or 6lowpan or other low-power devices. When one byte of airtime consumes as much energy as millions of processor cycles, it makes sense to favor additional processing to reduce message size. IETF protocols typically favor human readability of the protocol document at the expense of message size, and for many applications this is wholly inappropriate. I would be very interested to hear opinions from other members of the working group about this. Regards, Charlie P. ext Joe Macker wrote: > At the manet WG meeting we discussed a workplan prior to moving SMF to Last > Call for Experimental consideration. While some readability improvements may > be done the authors request that the WG provide comments as soon as > possible. Positive and general comments are encouraged along with others. > If you an implementor and find something confusing we are interested in > hearing from you.=20 > > Please see the recent briefings on line from the last meeting to understand > the recent changes and upcoming plan. > > Thanks, > Joe > > > > _______________________________________________ > Manet-dt mailing list > Manet-dt@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt > =20 _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 26 11:22:26 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVqzY-0005vM-RV; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:20:16 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVqzW-0005v1-3B; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:20:14 -0400 Received: from morse.colorado.edu ([198.11.21.3]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVqzU-0008LR-Ml; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:20:14 -0400 Received: from morse.Colorado.EDU (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by morse.Colorado.EDU (8.13.7/8.13.3/UnixOps+Hesiod+SSL) with ESMTP id l2QFK8GI024598 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:20:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (timxb@localhost) by morse.Colorado.EDU (8.13.7/8.13.3/Submit) with ESMTP id l2QFK87Q024594; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:20:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: morse.Colorado.EDU: timxb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:20:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Brown Tim To: "Charles E. Perkins" Subject: Re: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request In-Reply-To: <4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> Message-ID: References: <019c01c76d85$0e6904f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT> <4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a2c12dacc0736f14d6b540e805505a86 Cc: 'manet' , manet-dt@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org It certainly depends on the application. If we really want to include low-power sensors into our scope than we need a complete rethink of all protocols. If we are thinking vehicle powered devices battery is not an issue. If we are thinking protocols like 802.11, the minimum packet size is already ~100 microseconds at best and a few extra bytes constitutes a less than factor of two increase in the minimum message size and a negligible overhead on medium or large packet sizes. As a researcher, easy human interpretability is helpful to grad student tinkering and I would need stronger arguments that we need to drop this. Of course readability and efficiency are not incompatible goals and we should be mindful of the number and format of bytes that we add. Regards, Tim On Mon, 26 Mar 2007, Charles E. Perkins wrote: > > Hello folks, > > Once again, I urge that we place as much consideration as > possible on reducing message size to the maximum extent. > I have myself been reluctant to spend a lot of time on reviewing > the document because I worry that my comments will not be > taken as constructive. Ian has expressed his concern that I > am too late to make any suggestions for substantial change. > > I believe that the TLV structure is very expensive in terms > of byte overhead. I also think that parseability is far less > important than message size, although both are important. > I would rate the relative importance as 90% vs. 10% for > the parseability/size tradeoff. > > Similar considerations may apply to NHDP. > > It is pretty clear that the trend has been to be more > "IETF"-like in the message design, at the expense of > message size. In my opinion, this is inappropriate if we > want our work to be applicable for sensors or 6lowpan > or other low-power devices. When one byte of airtime > consumes as much energy as millions of processor cycles, > it makes sense to favor additional processing to reduce > message size. IETF protocols typically favor human > readability of the protocol document at the expense > of message size, and for many applications this is wholly > inappropriate. > > I would be very interested to hear opinions from other > members of the working group about this. > > Regards, > Charlie P. > > > > > ext Joe Macker wrote: >> At the manet WG meeting we discussed a workplan prior to moving SMF to Last >> Call for Experimental consideration. While some readability improvements >> may >> be done the authors request that the WG provide comments as soon as >> possible. Positive and general comments are encouraged along with others. >> If you an implementor and find something confusing we are interested in >> hearing from you. >> Please see the recent briefings on line from the last meeting to understand >> the recent changes and upcoming plan. >> >> Thanks, >> Joe >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Manet-dt mailing list >> Manet-dt@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt >> > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > Timothy X Brown Interdisciplinary Telecommunications Electrical and Computer Engineering ECOT 256 Campus Box 530 University of Colorado Boulder, CO 80309 Tel: (303) 492-1630 Fax: (303) 492-1112 http://ece.colorado.edu/~timxb _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 26 16:22:59 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVvfN-0004Lu-07; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:19:45 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVvfM-0004Lf-6Y; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:19:44 -0400 Received: from s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil ([132.250.83.3]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVvfK-0004tg-Qv; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:19:44 -0400 Received: from smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil [132.250.86.3]) by s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.8) with SMTP id l2QKJb4A019324; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from SEXTANT [132.250.92.22]) by smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (SMSSMTP 4.1.12.43) with SMTP id M2007032616193721762 ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:19:37 -0400 From: "Joe Macker" To: "'Charles E. Perkins'" References: <019c01c76d85$0e6904f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT> <4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:19:34 -0400 Message-ID: <001c01c76fe4$11f8e7a0$165cfa84@SEXTANT> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> Thread-Index: AcdvtSaO4jKcSfGRSuGdz8IhC7OL3wALPRkQ X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b280b4db656c3ca28dd62e5e0b03daa8 Cc: 'manet' , manet-dt@ietf.org Subject: [manet] RE: [Manet-dt] Review Request X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Can you clarify that you are providing more General comments (e.g., packetbb/nhdp)? I am assuming you meant these comments more generally and perhaps we start them on a separate thread. My Review Request message (original thread) was for SMF not a general call on all documents. Those calls should follow but SMF has optional TLV dependencies,etc and none when operating in certain modes as I presented at the meeting. Present experimental deployments have no TLV dependencies. The main issue in this case is the IPv6 DPD option header. For IPv4 there is also optionally no additional message size increase. >-----Original Message----- >From: Charles E. Perkins [mailto:charles.perkins@nokia.com] >Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 10:43 AM >To: ext Joe Macker >Cc: 'manet'; manet-dt@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request > > >Hello folks, > >Once again, I urge that we place as much consideration as >possible on reducing message size to the maximum extent. >I have myself been reluctant to spend a lot of time on >reviewing the document because I worry that my comments will >not be taken as constructive. Ian has expressed his concern >that I am too late to make any suggestions for substantial change. > >I believe that the TLV structure is very expensive in terms of >byte overhead. I also think that parseability is far less >important than message size, although both are important. >I would rate the relative importance as 90% vs. 10% for the >parseability/size tradeoff. > >Similar considerations may apply to NHDP. > >It is pretty clear that the trend has been to be more >"IETF"-like in the message design, at the expense of message >size. In my opinion, this is inappropriate if we want our >work to be applicable for sensors or 6lowpan or other >low-power devices. When one byte of airtime consumes as much >energy as millions of processor cycles, it makes sense to >favor additional processing to reduce message size. IETF >protocols typically favor human readability of the protocol >document at the expense of message size, and for many >applications this is wholly inappropriate. > >I would be very interested to hear opinions from other members >of the working group about this. > >Regards, >Charlie P. > > > > >ext Joe Macker wrote: >> At the manet WG meeting we discussed a workplan prior to >moving SMF to >> Last Call for Experimental consideration. While some readability >> improvements may be done the authors request that the WG provide >> comments as soon as possible. Positive and general comments >are encouraged along with others. >> If you an implementor and find something confusing we are interested >> in hearing from you. >> >> Please see the recent briefings on line from the last meeting to >> understand the recent changes and upcoming plan. >> >> Thanks, >> Joe >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Manet-dt mailing list >> Manet-dt@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt >> > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 26 16:36:10 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVvtx-0002Nr-Lt; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:34:49 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVvtw-0002Nm-Q8 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:34:48 -0400 Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.226]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVvtv-00033e-GJ for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:34:48 -0400 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id z6so1551934nzd for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.125.2 with SMTP id x2mr2835565wac.1174941269442; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.36.11 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:34:29 -0700 From: "Sudheendra Murthy" To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8abaac9e10c826e8252866cbe6766464 Subject: [manet] Real-life deployment of MANETs X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2129355440==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============2129355440== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_274370_25742693.1174941269388" ------=_Part_274370_25742693.1174941269388 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi all, I have a question regarding the deployment of Mobile Ad hoc Networks (MANETs) in real life. In the past 10 years, there has been tremendous research attention towards MANETs. There have been thousands of research publications on various issues in MANETs including routing, mobility, channel assignment, power control, etc. Despite this fact, we don't hear of any popular MANET application being used in real life. Does anyone know of any MANET application currently being used anywhere ? Please note that I am not referring to any of the MANET test beds set up in universities. If there are no real life applications, what are the reasons for this ? Could this be due to the lack of good business ideas surrounding MANETs or technological barriers to the deployment of MANETs ? Thanks, Sudhi. ------=_Part_274370_25742693.1174941269388 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi all,

I have a question regarding the deployment of Mobile Ad hoc Networks (MANETs) in real life. In the past 10 years, there has been tremendous research attention towards MANETs. There have been thousands of research publications on various issues in MANETs including routing, mobility, channel assignment, power control, etc. Despite this fact, we don't hear of any popular MANET application being used in real life. Does anyone know of any MANET application  currently being used anywhere ? Please note that I am not referring to any of the MANET test beds set up in universities. If there are no real life  applications, what are the reasons for this ? Could this be due to the lack of good business ideas surrounding MANETs or technological barriers to the deployment of MANETs ?

Thanks,

Sudhi.
------=_Part_274370_25742693.1174941269388-- --===============2129355440== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============2129355440==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 26 18:15:47 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVxRT-0000z6-F5; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:13:31 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVxRS-0000z0-3Y for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:13:30 -0400 Received: from mail.xprtsol.com ([63.109.22.26]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVxRD-0000t3-Jy for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:13:29 -0400 Received: from xprtsol.com (outbound.tcglaw.com [146.145.79.102] (may be forged)) by mail.xprtsol.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id l2QNIct5006636; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:18:38 -0500 Message-ID: <460853A4.9000005@xprtsol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:13:40 -0500 From: Gus Amouris User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sudheendra Murthy Subject: Re: [manet] Real-life deployment of MANETs References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8fbbaa16f9fd29df280814cb95ae2290 Cc: manet@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1959044227==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1959044227== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030506020501090306080608" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030506020501090306080608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Currently, the military is the largest user of MANET technology. Military communication networks rely almost exclusively on MANET technology due to the lack of infrastructure and the need to get around single points of failure. Regarding real commercial/business MANET applications and opportunities for usage, vehicular (V2V) and airborne communication networks appear to be 2 prominent upcoming commercial applications of MANET technology. Refer to the following links for additional info: http://www.telematicsjournal.com/content/newsfeed/9780.html http://www.car-to-car.org http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=14407&ch=infotech http://spacecom.grc.nasa.gov/icnsconf/docs/2006/10_Session_C1/02-McNary.pdf Also, if you just google 'wireless ad-hoc mesh network' you'll see a ton of hits regarding applications and companies trying to commercialize MANET technology right now as an extension to the cellular network. Regards, Gus Sudheendra Murthy wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a question regarding the deployment of Mobile Ad hoc Networks > (MANETs) in real life. In the past 10 years, there has been tremendous > research attention towards MANETs. There have been thousands of > research publications on various issues in MANETs including routing, > mobility, channel assignment, power control, etc. Despite this fact, > we don't hear of any popular MANET application being used in real > life. Does anyone know of any MANET application currently being used > anywhere ? Please note that I am not referring to any of the MANET > test beds set up in universities. If there are no real life > applications, what are the reasons for this ? Could this be due to the > lack of good business ideas surrounding MANETs or technological > barriers to the deployment of MANETs ? > > Thanks, > > Sudhi. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >manet mailing list >manet@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > --------------030506020501090306080608 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Currently, the military is the largest user of MANET technology. Military communication networks rely almost exclusively on MANET technology due to the lack of infrastructure and the need to get around single points of failure.

Regarding real commercial/business MANET applications and opportunities for usage, vehicular (V2V) and airborne communication networks appear to be 2 prominent upcoming commercial applications of MANET technology.  Refer to the following links for additional info:
http://www.telematicsjournal.com/content/newsfeed/9780.html
http://www.car-to-car.org
http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=14407&ch=infotech
http://spacecom.grc.nasa.gov/icnsconf/docs/2006/10_Session_C1/02-McNary.pdf

Also, if you just google 'wireless ad-hoc mesh network' you'll see a ton of hits regarding applications and companies trying to commercialize MANET technology right now as an extension to the cellular network.

Regards,
Gus



Sudheendra Murthy wrote:
Hi all,

I have a question regarding the deployment of Mobile Ad hoc Networks (MANETs) in real life. In the past 10 years, there has been tremendous research attention towards MANETs. There have been thousands of research publications on various issues in MANETs including routing, mobility, channel assignment, power control, etc. Despite this fact, we don't hear of any popular MANET application being used in real life. Does anyone know of any MANET application  currently being used anywhere ? Please note that I am not referring to any of the MANET test beds set up in universities. If there are no real life  applications, what are the reasons for this ? Could this be due to the lack of good business ideas surrounding MANETs or technological barriers to the deployment of MANETs ?

Thanks,

Sudhi.

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--------------030506020501090306080608-- --===============1959044227== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============1959044227==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 26 18:59:20 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVy7t-0002zz-43; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:57:21 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVy7r-0002zt-RR for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:57:19 -0400 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.184]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVy7q-0006Bp-1v for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:57:19 -0400 Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so2908333muf for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:57:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=GpcBMa5hKgWJaK4XEyvtufoQSIcHmIwl2tytBjHvTdoh2BgHMnKO+AD34joLoH1j8DhHZqvW+T8ZtLKF6AryxpDN6PBNWyrbtmreiOWUrA9y4onGGNeh8h14XQwl3hu3ZULD6ANLPSr7v2C0TSYWEm9oiBhS7WWDc88f/YyV6Hc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=O3C4/UEVfhTie1eLCf3/enCI+hc3f7gU3AZGLrSwrFKh7LLvtyAdCka8UGKgAiaoKh66YcMH7uBbrB4+j2cNL8IxPDTzijM3roA0KJu/KdJLkAbPqcezYFOH9VwSgx11LK/rbcQK/ihEOQKfNnUBTYs+uPE1QZ3HFDDeC8bR2lo= Received: by 10.82.113.6 with SMTP id l6mr14861797buc.1174949837142; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.116.4 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <738944750703261557p43cd22ai7bc5d0486819bd9b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:57:17 -0400 From: "Manos Antonakakis" To: "Sudheendra Murthy" Subject: Re: [manet] Real-life deployment of MANETs In-Reply-To: <460853A4.9000005@xprtsol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <460853A4.9000005@xprtsol.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8ee83df6eec7f106 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 202a3ece0492a8c7e7c8672d5214398f Cc: manet@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1199280035==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============1199280035== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_176313_29160407.1174949837097" ------=_Part_176313_29160407.1174949837097 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sudhi, Maybe you want to read this paper; Huang, E., Hu, W., Crowcroft, J., and Wassell, I. 2005. Towards commercial mobile ad hoc network applications: a radio dispatch system. In *Proceedings of the 6th ACM international Symposium on Mobile Ad Hoc Networking and Computing* (Urbana-Champaign, IL, USA, May 25 - 27, 2005). MobiHoc '05. I believe that currently the MANETs are not mature enough in order to be fully commercialized. However, MANETs could be used as back up solutions when the primary wired (or wireless) network fails. In order to commercialize the MANETs you have to provide a pretty good level of network security as well. Take care, Manos On 3/26/07, Gus Amouris wrote: > > Currently, the military is the largest user of MANET technology. Military > communication networks rely almost exclusively on MANET technology due to > the lack of infrastructure and the need to get around single points of > failure. > > Regarding real commercial/business MANET applications and opportunities > for usage, vehicular (V2V) and airborne communication networks appear to be > 2 prominent upcoming commercial applications of MANET technology. Refer to > the following links for additional info: > http://www.telematicsjournal.com/content/newsfeed/9780.html > http://www.car-to-car.org > http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=14407&ch=infotech > > http://spacecom.grc.nasa.gov/icnsconf/docs/2006/10_Session_C1/02-McNary.pdf > > Also, if you just google 'wireless ad-hoc mesh network' you'll see a ton > of hits regarding applications and companies trying to commercialize MANET > technology right now as an extension to the cellular network. > > Regards, > Gus > > > > Sudheendra Murthy wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have a question regarding the deployment of Mobile Ad hoc Networks > (MANETs) in real life. In the past 10 years, there has been tremendous > research attention towards MANETs. There have been thousands of research > publications on various issues in MANETs including routing, mobility, > channel assignment, power control, etc. Despite this fact, we don't hear of > any popular MANET application being used in real life. Does anyone know of > any MANET application currently being used anywhere ? Please note that I am > not referring to any of the MANET test beds set up in universities. If there > are no real life applications, what are the reasons for this ? Could this > be due to the lack of good business ideas surrounding MANETs or > technological barriers to the deployment of MANETs ? > > Thanks, > > Sudhi. > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.orghttps://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > -- Manos Antonakakis Graduate Student, Computer Science Georgia Tech Information Security Center http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~manos ------=_Part_176313_29160407.1174949837097 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sudhi,

Maybe you want to read this paper;
Huang, E., Hu, W., Crowcroft, J., and Wassell, I. 2005. Towards commercial mobile ad hoc network applications: a radio dispatch system. In Proceedings of the 6th ACM international Symposium on Mobile Ad Hoc Networking and Computing (Urbana-Champaign, IL, USA, May 25 - 27, 2005). MobiHoc '05.

I believe that currently the MANETs are not mature enough in order to be fully commercialized. However, MANETs could be used as back up solutions when the primary wired (or wireless) network fails. In order to commercialize the MANETs you have to provide a pretty good level of network security as well.

Take care,

Manos

On 3/26/07, Gus Amouris <amouris@xprtsol.com> wrote:
Currently, the military is the largest user of MANET technology. Military communication networks rely almost exclusively on MANET technology due to the lack of infrastructure and the need to get around single points of failure.

Regarding real commercial/business MANET applications and opportunities for usage, vehicular (V2V) and airborne communication networks appear to be 2 prominent upcoming commercial applications of MANET technology.  Refer to the following links for additional info:
http://www.telematicsjournal.com/content/newsfeed/9780.html
http://www.car-to-car.org
http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=14407&ch=infotech
http://spacecom.grc.nasa.gov/icnsconf/docs/2006/10_Session_C1/02-McNary.pdf

Also, if you just google 'wireless ad-hoc mesh network' you'll see a ton of hits regarding applications and companies trying to commercialize MANET technology right now as an extension to the cellular network.

Regards,
Gus



Sudheendra Murthy wrote:
Hi all,

I have a question regarding the deployment of Mobile Ad hoc Networks (MANETs) in real life. In the past 10 years, there has been tremendous research attention towards MANETs. There have been thousands of research publications on various issues in MANETs including routing, mobility, channel assignment, power control, etc. Despite this fact, we don't hear of any popular MANET application being used in real life. Does anyone know of any MANET application  currently being used anywhere ? Please note that I am not referring to any of the MANET test beds set up in universities. If there are no real life  applications, what are the reasons for this ? Could this be due to the lack of good business ideas surrounding MANETs or technological barriers to the deployment of MANETs ?

Thanks,

Sudhi.

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(From a protocol perspective, periodic plugging or removing of equipment would be indistinguishable from mobility events.) Fred fred.l.templin@boeing.com =20 ________________________________ From: Gus Amouris [mailto:amouris@xprtsol.com]=20 Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 4:14 PM To: Sudheendra Murthy Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] Real-life deployment of MANETs =09 =09 Currently, the military is the largest user of MANET technology. Military communication networks rely almost exclusively on MANET technology due to the lack of infrastructure and the need to get around single points of failure.=20 =09 Regarding real commercial/business MANET applications and opportunities for usage, vehicular (V2V) and airborne communication networks appear to be 2 prominent upcoming commercial applications of MANET technology. Refer to the following links for additional info: http://www.telematicsjournal.com/content/newsfeed/9780.html http://www.car-to-car.org =09 http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=3D14407&ch=3Dinfotec= h =09 http://spacecom.grc.nasa.gov/icnsconf/docs/2006/10_Session_C1/02-McNary. pdf =09 Also, if you just google 'wireless ad-hoc mesh network' you'll see a ton of hits regarding applications and companies trying to commercialize MANET technology right now as an extension to the cellular network. =09 Regards, Gus =09 =09 =09 Sudheendra Murthy wrote: =09 Hi all, =09 I have a question regarding the deployment of Mobile Ad hoc Networks (MANETs) in real life. In the past 10 years, there has been tremendous research attention towards MANETs. There have been thousands of research publications on various issues in MANETs including routing, mobility, channel assignment, power control, etc. Despite this fact, we don't hear of any popular MANET application being used in real life. Does anyone know of any MANET application currently being used anywhere ? Please note that I am not referring to any of the MANET test beds set up in universities. If there are no real life applications, what are the reasons for this ? Could this be due to the lack of good business ideas surrounding MANETs or technological barriers to the deployment of MANETs ?=20 =09 Thanks, =09 Sudhi. =09 ________________________________ _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet =20 _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 26 19:28:10 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVyYx-0001Ue-SX; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:25:19 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVyYw-0001Tv-He for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:25:18 -0400 Received: from cpanel54.gzo.com ([75.126.55.107]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVySm-0008RA-MZ for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:18:58 -0400 Received: from 66-17-172-81.static.mesanetworks.net ([66.17.172.81] helo=[192.168.221.154]) by cpanel54.gzo.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HVyST-0003T0-UV; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:18:38 -0500 Message-ID: <460854CC.3050106@fidelity-comtech.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:18:36 -0600 From: Joe Carey User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gus Amouris Subject: Re: [manet] Real-life deployment of MANETs References: <460853A4.9000005@xprtsol.com> In-Reply-To: <460853A4.9000005@xprtsol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel54.gzo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fidelity-comtech.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a87a9cdae4ac5d3fbeee75cd0026d632 Cc: manet@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Sudheendra, Gus has given some insightful comments. I agree with the points he made. I would add that most municipal or metro-scale mesh networks are based on MANET technology. Although they don't typically take advantage of the mobile aspect of MANETs, these networks are typically self-forming, self-healing, and exhibit dynamic routing. This space is in considerable flux at the moment and the business model is not yet proven. Last time I looked, more than 200 municipalities had RFPs on the street looking for solutions that could cover their cities with WiFi clouds. Some commercial entities offering equipment are: Tropos (the most units deployed), Meraki (from the people who brought you MIT Roofnet), packethop, mesh dynamics, firetide and strix. Each of these has a somewhat different flavor of meshing; most are proprietary. Additionally, some companies long known for their APs are adding meshing capabilities: Cisco, with the model 1500, 3eTI, Proxim and others. The field is very crowded. Earthlink and MobilePro (via Kite Networks) are offering WiFi service on a metropolitan scale based on this sort of technology & equipment. I'm sure there are other big names who are in or will be entering this space shortly. Most of these metro-scale networks are based on giving network access to nomadic users (i.e. people who stand stand still while participating in the network and can give it most of their attention). My opinion is the reason we see little in the way of commercial application for _mobile_ ad-hoc networks is probably based on the nature of the application. What is the user application that requires data network access while mobile? Most applications require more attention than a person can offer while safely operating a vehicle. The killer application for mobile network access is the voice phone call and cellular is a mature technology that serves that need in most of the world. I know exceptions exist, but in my opinion this is the general situation. Please - no flames. I hope this helps. Kindest regards, joe Gus Amouris wrote: > Currently, the military is the largest user of MANET technology. > Military communication networks rely almost exclusively on MANET > technology due to the lack of infrastructure and the need to get > around single points of failure. > > Regarding real commercial/business MANET applications and > opportunities for usage, vehicular (V2V) and airborne communication > networks appear to be 2 prominent upcoming commercial applications of > MANET technology. Refer to the following links for additional info: > http://www.telematicsjournal.com/content/newsfeed/9780.html > http://www.car-to-car.org > http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=14407&ch=infotech > http://spacecom.grc.nasa.gov/icnsconf/docs/2006/10_Session_C1/02-McNary.pdf > > Also, if you just google 'wireless ad-hoc mesh network' you'll see a > ton of hits regarding applications and companies trying to > commercialize MANET technology right now as an extension to the > cellular network. > > Regards, > Gus > > > > Sudheendra Murthy wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I have a question regarding the deployment of Mobile Ad hoc Networks >> (MANETs) in real life. In the past 10 years, there has been >> tremendous research attention towards MANETs. There have been >> thousands of research publications on various issues in MANETs >> including routing, mobility, channel assignment, power control, etc. >> Despite this fact, we don't hear of any popular MANET application >> being used in real life. Does anyone know of any MANET application >> currently being used anywhere ? Please note that I am not referring >> to any of the MANET test beds set up in universities. If there are no >> real life applications, what are the reasons for this ? Could this >> be due to the lack of good business ideas surrounding MANETs or >> technological barriers to the deployment of MANETs ? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Sudhi. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> manet mailing list >> manet@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 26 19:50:24 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVywF-0005L7-9L; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:49:23 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVywE-0005L2-0q for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:49:22 -0400 Received: from mclmx.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.10]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVywB-0003b2-Os for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:49:22 -0400 Received: from 0015-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.21] [149.8.64.21]) by mclmx.mail.saic.com; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:49:07 -0400 Received: from 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com ([10.43.229.22]) by 0015-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.5.66) with SMTP id M2007032618490700266 ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:49:07 -0500 Received: from 0591-ITS-EXMP02.us.saic.com ([10.42.81.248]) by 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:49:07 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [manet] Real-life deployment of MANETs Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:47:51 -0400 Message-Id: <62D92A9A02BCC845B202323D49A48426E1D045@0591-ITS-EXMP02.us.saic.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [manet] Real-life deployment of MANETs Thread-Index: Acdv9N5IEg5Ms74/RIKgBccMPbuy/QABfTbAAAGV1KM= References: <460853A4.9000005@xprtsol.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A101774827@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> From: "Roy, Radhika R." To: "Templin, Fred L" , "Gus Amouris" , "Sudheendra Murthy" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2007 23:49:07.0150 (UTC) FILETIME=[57ABBEE0:01C77001] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 00e94c813bef7832af255170dca19e36 Cc: manet@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1756816394==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1756816394== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C77001.576DD91C" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C77001.576DD91C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable True. =20 Those ad hoc networks can be considered as a subset of MANETs. =20 Radhika =20 ________________________________ From: manet-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of Templin, Fred L Sent: Mon 3/26/2007 7:09 PM To: Gus Amouris; Sudheendra Murthy Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: RE: [manet] Real-life deployment of MANETs Note also that MANETs do not necessarily have to be mobile or even wireless, e.g., a home network consisting of one or several links on which the user adds new equipment or removes old equipment from time to time could be considered as a simple case of a MANET. 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------_=_NextPart_001_01C77001.576DD91C-- --===============1756816394== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============1756816394==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 26 21:44:35 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HW0hC-0003pa-7I; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:41:58 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HW0h9-0003pS-R1 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:41:55 -0400 Received: from exchange-fe1a.nmsu.edu ([128.123.34.178] helo=exchange-fe1.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HW0h6-00074s-Jn for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:41:55 -0400 Received: from EXCHANGE-BE1.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu ([128.123.34.119]) by exchange-fe1.ACN.ad.nmsu.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:41:49 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [manet] Real-life deployment of MANETs Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:41:48 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [manet] Real-life deployment of MANETs Thread-Index: Acdv5jZlmrURAre8REqVyk3QLdAE2gAKUUQg References: From: "Mullen, John" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Mar 2007 01:41:49.0459 (UTC) FILETIME=[16523630:01C77011] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 03169bfe4792634a390035a01a6c6d2f X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1434868805==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1434868805== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C77011.164AF01E" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C77011.164AF01E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Strange you should ask. =20 I just got a new printer today. It has a wireless ad-hoc network mode, compatible with 802.11b. =20 It appears it is auto configuring, but not multi-hop. =20 I did use a multi-hop printer network about ten years ago. If you wanted to print, the wireless card would try to reach the printer. If it could not do so, it would attempt to find a multihop path and forward the print job through other computers in the lab. It was a commercial product. You bought as many wireless cards as you needed and installed the software on each machine. I don't remember the name of it, but I do remember it worked quite well and made running the lab a lot easier. =20 At least, until Microsoft changed its operating system. =20 :-) John P. Mullen, Ph.D. (505) 646-2958 jomullen@nmsu.edu =20 =20 ________________________________ From: Sudheendra Murthy [mailto:sudhi@asu.edu]=20 Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 2:34 PM To: manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Real-life deployment of MANETs Hi all, I have a question regarding the deployment of Mobile Ad hoc Networks (MANETs) in real life. In the past 10 years, there has been tremendous research attention towards MANETs. There have been thousands of research publications on various issues in MANETs including routing, mobility, channel assignment, power control, etc. Despite this fact, we don't hear of any popular MANET application being used in real life. Does anyone know of any MANET application currently being used anywhere ? Please note that I am not referring to any of the MANET test beds set up in universities. If there are no real life applications, what are the reasons for this ? Could this be due to the lack of good business ideas surrounding MANETs or technological barriers to the deployment of MANETs ?=20 Thanks, Sudhi. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C77011.164AF01E Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Strange you should ask.
 
I just got a new printer today. It has a = wireless=20 ad-hoc network mode, compatible with 802.11b.
 
It appears it is auto configuring, but not=20 multi-hop.
 
I did use a multi-hop printer network about = ten years=20 ago. If you wanted to print, the wireless card would try to reach the = printer.=20 If it could not do so, it would attempt to find a multihop path and = forward the=20 print job through other computers in the lab. It was a commercial = product. You=20 bought as many wireless cards as you needed and installed the software = on each=20 machine. I don't remember the name of it, but I do remember it worked = quite well=20 and made running the lab a lot easier.
 
At least, until Microsoft changed its = operating=20 system.
 
:-)

John P. Mullen, Ph.D.
(505)=20 646-2958
jomullen@nmsu.edu
 

 

From: Sudheendra Murthy = [mailto:sudhi@asu.edu]=20
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 2:34 PM
To:=20 manet@ietf.org
Subject: [manet] Real-life deployment of=20 MANETs

Hi all,

I have a question regarding the deployment of = Mobile=20 Ad hoc Networks (MANETs) in real life. In the past 10 years, there has = been=20 tremendous research attention towards MANETs. There have been thousands = of=20 research publications on various issues in MANETs including routing, = mobility,=20 channel assignment, power control, etc. Despite this fact, we don't hear = of any=20 popular MANET application being used in real life. Does anyone know of = any MANET=20 application  currently being used anywhere ? Please note that I am = not=20 referring to any of the MANET test beds set up in universities. If there = are no=20 real life  applications, what are the reasons for this ? Could this = be due=20 to the lack of good business ideas surrounding MANETs or technological = barriers=20 to the deployment of MANETs ? =

Thanks,

Sudhi.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C77011.164AF01E-- --===============1434868805== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============1434868805==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 26 21:58:49 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HW0wd-00021n-1k; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:57:55 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HW0wa-00021W-U5 for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:57:52 -0400 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.175]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HW0wW-000213-9o for manet@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:57:52 -0400 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 72so1771254ugd for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.74.1 with SMTP id b1mr2940697wal.1174960666205; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.36.11 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:57:46 -0700 From: "Sudheendra Murthy" To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 88b11fc64c1bfdb4425294ef5374ca07 Subject: [manet] CFP: Dial M-POMC 2007 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1228942798==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============1228942798== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_279119_20409503.1174960666150" ------=_Part_279119_20409503.1174960666150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- Call for Papers Dial M-POMC 2007 The Fourth ACM SIGACT-SIGOPS International Workshop on Foundations of Mobile Computing In Conjunction with ACM PODC 2007 August 16, 2007 Portland, Oregon, USA http://www.asu.edu/DialM/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- SCOPE: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Mobile computing and communications devices will have an enormous impact on our lifestyle over the next several decades. The mobility of distributed computing components raises a number of interesting, and difficult, algorithmic issues. This workshop is devoted to algorithms and methods in the context of mobile and wireless computing and communications. The workshop is intended to foster cooperation among researchers in mobile computing and researchers in discrete and distributed algorithms. DIAL M-POMC will be composed of invited and peer-reviewed contributed talks. All submitted papers will be rigorously reviewed by technical program committee members. Accepted papers will be published in the workshop proceedings. Technical papers describing original, previously unpublished research, not currently under review by another conference or journal, are solicited. Contributions are solicited in all areas related to mobile and wireless computing and communications where discrete algorithms and methods are utilized. Specific topics include, but are not limited to: * Channel assignment and management * Cryptography and security * Handover (handoff) * Routing, multicast and broadcast * Scheduling * Synchronization * Selfish behavior and cooperation * Ad hoc and sensor networking * Localization and location tracking * Error correcting codes * Protocol optimization * Dynamic networks * Cooperation enforcement * Dynamic graph algorithms * Modeling * Energy saving methods and protocols IMPORTANT DATES: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Paper submission due: May 15, 2007 Notification of acceptance: June 15, 2007 Camera-ready paper submission: June 30, 2007 PAPER SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D Authors should prepare an electronic version of their full paper (see conference website for details). Papers must not exceed 8 pages (US Letter size, 8.5 x 11 inches) including text, figures and references. The font size must be at least 11 points. ORGANIZING COMMITTEE: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Program Co-Chairs * Arunabha Sen, Arizona State University * Torsten Braun, Universit=E4t Bern Publicity Chair * Goran Konjevod, Arizona State University Steering Committee * Maurizio Bonuccelli (U. of Pisa) * Errol Lloyd (U. of Delaware) * Nancy Lynch (MIT) * Andre Schiper (EPFL) * Arunabha Sen (ASU) * Nitin Vaidya (UIUC) Technical Program Committee * Goran Konjevod * Andrea Richa * Guoliang Xue * Nitin Vaidya * B. P. Sinha * Jennifer L. Welch * Cynthia Phyllips * Andras Farago * Pierre Fraigniaud * Yevgeni Koucheryavy * Vassilis Tsaoussidis * L. van den Berg * Jochen Schiller * Ivan Stojmenovic * Ozgur Ercetin Please email questions regarding the technical program or paper submission to asen [at] asu [dot] edu. ------=_Part_279119_20409503.1174960666150 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----
             &nbs= p;  Call for Papers
         &nb= sp; 
            &nbs= p;   Dial M-POMC 2007
        &n= bsp;  
          = ;  The Fourth ACM SIGACT-SIGOPS International Workshop on
               F= oundations of Mobile Computing

       =     In Conjunction with ACM PODC 2007

  &n= bsp;             August 16, 20= 07
              = ;   Portland, Oregon, USA
       = ;        http://www.asu.edu/DialM/

--------------------------------------= -----------------------------------------

SCOPE:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<= br>
Mobile computing and communications devices will have an enormous im= pact on our=20
lifestyle over the next several decades. The mobility of distributed co= mputing
components raises a number of interesting, and difficult, algor= ithmic issues.
This workshop is devoted to algorithms and methods in th= e context of mobile and=20
wireless computing and communications. The workshop is intended to fost= er
cooperation among researchers in mobile computing and researchers in= discrete
and distributed algorithms. DIAL M-POMC will be composed of i= nvited and=20
peer-reviewed contributed talks.

All submitted papers will be r= igorously reviewed by technical program committee
members. Accepted pap= ers will be published in the workshop proceedings.
Technical papers des= cribing original, previously unpublished research, not=20
currently under review by another conference or journal, are solicited.=
Contributions are solicited in all areas related to mobile and wireles= s
computing and communications where discrete algorithms and methods ar= e utilized.
Specific topics include, but are not limited to:

* Channel assig= nment and management
* Cryptography and security
* Handover (handoff)=
* Routing, multicast and broadcast
* Scheduling
* Synchronization
* Selfish behavior and cooperation
* Ad hoc and sensor networking* Localization and location tracking
* Error correcting codes
* Prot= ocol optimization
* Dynamic networks
* Cooperation enforcement
* Dynamic graph algorithms
* Modeling
* Energy saving methods and pro= tocols


IMPORTANT DATES:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D
Paper submission due:        May= 15, 2007
Notification of acceptance:    June 15, 2007
Camera-ready paper submission:    June 30, 2007

<= br>PAPER SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Authors should p= repare an electronic version of their full paper (see conference
website= for details). Papers must not exceed 8 pages (US Letter size,=20 8.5 x 11
inches) including text, figures and references. The font size = must be at least
11 points.


ORGANIZING COMMITTEE:
=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Program Co-Chairs=
   * Arunabha Sen, Arizona State University
   * Torsten Braun, Universit=E4t Bern

Publicity Chair=
   * Goran Konjevod, Arizona State University

Steering= Committee
   * Maurizio Bonuccelli (U. of Pisa)
 &nbs= p; * Errol Lloyd (U. of Delaware)
   * Nancy Lynch (MIT)
   * Andre Schiper (EPFL)
   * Arunabha Sen (ASU= )
   * Nitin Vaidya (UIUC)

Technical Program Committee<= br>   * Goran Konjevod
   * Andrea Richa
 &n= bsp; * Guoliang Xue
   * Nitin Vaidya
   * B. P. = Sinha
   * Jennifer L. Welch
   * Cynthia Phyllips
=    * Andras Farago
   * Pierre Fraigniaud
 &= nbsp; * Yevgeni Koucheryavy
   * Vassilis Tsaoussidis
 = ;  * L. van den Berg
   * Jochen Schiller
  = * Ivan Stojmenovic
   * Ozgur Ercetin

Please email questions regarding th= e technical program or paper submission to
asen [at] asu [dot] edu.
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It aims to manage different factors in order to improve safety and comfort to drivers/passengers, and reduce transportation times and fuel costs. With the advances in wireless communications technology and positioning systems many applications could become a reality. ITS topics are attracting more and more academic and industrial players. The goal of UBIROADS'2007 is to offer a unique forum to bring together researchers and professionals from academia, government and industry to share and discuss ideas, visions, applications and new results related to ITS issues. Relevant topics ---------------- Topics of interest for this workshop include but are not limited to the following: 1. Wireless transmission: physical layer, RF level technologies for ITS communications, radio resource management, media access control and QoS support in ITS, antenna technologies for ITS communications. 2. Integration: embedded systems for ITS, system architectures, network architectures, cross-layer designs in ITS communications, real-time issues, sensors for ITS. 3. Networking: vehicle-to-vehicle V2V communications, vehicle-to-infrastructure V2I communications, Vehicle-to-Person (V2P) communications, algorithms and protocols for ITS and VANET, Internet access. 4. Simulation/emulation: models of traffic, scenarios and models of simulations for the road, emulation tools for ITS. 5. Experimentations: experimental platforms and testbeds for ITS, demonstrations, projects reviews, work-in-progress reports. 6. Security: authentication issues, PKI, distributed key management in VANET, confidence in VANET. 7. Applications: business models, active safety applications, passenger-oriented applications, new services for VANET, Advanced and Distributed Driver Assistance Systems, impact on road safety. 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Important dates ---------------- Submission Deadline: April 16, 2007 (Extended) Notification of acceptance: May 11, 2007 (Extended) Final paper due: June 1, 2007 Workshop Chair --------------- - Sidi-Mohammed SENOUCI, France Telecom R&D, France Programme co-Chairs -------------------- - Christian BETTSTETTER, University of Klagenfurt, Austria - Bertrand DUCOURTHIAL, University of Technology of Compiegne, France =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Tue Mar 27 16:18:52 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWI6K-0008Qj-J1; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:17:04 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWI6I-0008Qe-Ui for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:17:02 -0400 Received: from slb-smtpout-01.boeing.com ([130.76.64.48] helo=slb-smtpout-01.ns.cs.boeing.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWI6H-0001D7-Mc for manet@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:17:02 -0400 Received: from blv-av-01.boeing.com (blv-av-01.boeing.com [192.42.227.216]) by slb-smtpout-01.ns.cs.boeing.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/TEST_SMTPIN) with ESMTP id l2RKH0Iq009728 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blv-av-01.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blv-av-01.boeing.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/DOWNSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id l2RKH03R010063; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from XCH-NWBH-11.nw.nos.boeing.com (xch-nwbh-11.nw.nos.boeing.com [130.247.55.84]) by blv-av-01.boeing.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/UPSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id l2RKGxmM010024; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.54.35]) by XCH-NWBH-11.nw.nos.boeing.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:16:58 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [manet] Real-life deployment of MANETs Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:16:57 -0700 Message-ID: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A101774831@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> In-Reply-To: <62D92A9A02BCC845B202323D49A48426E1D045@0591-ITS-EXMP02.us.saic.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [manet] Real-life deployment of MANETs Thread-Index: Acdv9N5IEg5Ms74/RIKgBccMPbuy/QABfTbAAAGV1KMAKrCIgA== References: <460853A4.9000005@xprtsol.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A101774827@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <62D92A9A02BCC845B202323D49A48426E1D045@0591-ITS-EXMP02.us.saic.com> From: "Templin, Fred L" To: "Roy, Radhika R." , "Gus Amouris" , "Sudheendra Murthy" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Mar 2007 20:16:58.0241 (UTC) FILETIME=[DF101F10:01C770AC] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 30ac594df0e66ffa5a93eb4c48bcb014 Cc: manet@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Another example of a MANET is that a singleton MANET router could be considered a MANET unto itself, albeit a degenerate one. Note though that the MANET router could contain an arbitrarily-complex network of nodes within, e.g., a system with multiple virtual operating systems running inside of it, a cruise ship, an airplane, an automobile, etc. Fred fred.l.templin@boeing.com =20 _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 28 00:32:35 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWPme-0003YM-OO; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:29:16 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWPmd-0003R4-2T for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:29:15 -0400 Received: from fed1rmmtao103.cox.net ([68.230.241.43]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWPmb-0004qb-Ic for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:29:15 -0400 Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao103.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.05.02.00 201-2174-114-20060621) with ESMTP id <20070328042913.OVVK28126.fed1rmmtao103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:29:13 -0400 Received: from [68.111.67.38] ([68.111.67.38]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id g4VC1W01A0pY0Sk0000000; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:29:13 -0400 Message-ID: <4609FCED.8050904@cox.net> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:28:13 -0800 From: Sponge Bob User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 'manet' Subject: Re: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request Re: [manet] Real-life deployment of MANETs References: <019c01c76d85$0e6904f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT> <4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b7b9551d71acde901886cc48bfc088a6 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Agreed. Minimizing message overhead in a MANET is a no-brainer. MANET bandwidth, unlike the wired/fiber world, is precious. MANET links may stretch and go down to almost zero bandwidth. In a military/disaster network application (practically the only application of MANET(*)), that may be the only link and your lifeline to connectivity. Sometimes, I am confused by this group because I don't see the main application areas of MANET needing full standardized integration into the Internet (or maybe I am just taking the I in IETF too literally?). (*) MANET here meaning Moble Ad-hoc, I.E. nasty link breaking mobility, multiple hops, etc. Charles E. Perkins wrote: > > Hello folks, > > Once again, I urge that we place as much consideration as > possible on reducing message size to the maximum extent. > I have myself been reluctant to spend a lot of time on reviewing > the document because I worry that my comments will not be > taken as constructive. Ian has expressed his concern that I > am too late to make any suggestions for substantial change. > > I believe that the TLV structure is very expensive in terms > of byte overhead. I also think that parseability is far less > important than message size, although both are important. > I would rate the relative importance as 90% vs. 10% for > the parseability/size tradeoff. > > Similar considerations may apply to NHDP. > > It is pretty clear that the trend has been to be more > "IETF"-like in the message design, at the expense of > message size. In my opinion, this is inappropriate if we > want our work to be applicable for sensors or 6lowpan > or other low-power devices. When one byte of airtime > consumes as much energy as millions of processor cycles, > it makes sense to favor additional processing to reduce > message size. IETF protocols typically favor human > readability of the protocol document at the expense > of message size, and for many applications this is wholly > inappropriate. > > I would be very interested to hear opinions from other > members of the working group about this. > > Regards, > Charlie P. > > > > > ext Joe Macker wrote: >> At the manet WG meeting we discussed a workplan prior to moving SMF >> to Last >> Call for Experimental consideration. While some readability >> improvements may >> be done the authors request that the WG provide comments as soon as >> possible. Positive and general comments are encouraged along with >> others. >> If you an implementor and find something confusing we are interested in >> hearing from you. >> Please see the recent briefings on line from the last meeting to >> understand >> the recent changes and upcoming plan. >> >> Thanks, >> Joe >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Manet-dt mailing list >> Manet-dt@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt >> > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 28 09:16:26 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWXyM-0002Wo-KS; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:13:54 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWXyK-0002WS-3B for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:13:52 -0400 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.171]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWXyH-000814-A3 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:13:52 -0400 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 72so190680ugd for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:13:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=G1iUuPKoet/iOJe5Wp4/Hcb3k0KZfDfWXF+k7oBp8GU00lEFOjxx1PkGI30Y0hh7p1r+HvG6YrFa0UILdFBqapRunT3uuVN/Q/xGmAonSD6wTPiKIocBljXwBwIALSkpTHNHB/nQI6cY//zLgmea4EOVK3u9NrMFxYY+fzxhosk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=tgVpXeD7fiU10sngsNydFUXDcmaWBooFOOvrR7w3Aq54ZKiKq53PekbKAgf7T+4zSi3CVZs5SDBSR1MjAlg/7LYvKjaTaJDiH6NGW5hHDitm6nCRuFMHewcK6Oa1m90eXIEEnLKszjLClOIhjZD8djEz7N5PWc5kLFhKRJ2fYUI= Received: by 10.67.119.9 with SMTP id w9mr649438ugm.1175087628620; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:13:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.33? ( [122.167.128.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 59sm945683ugf.2007.03.28.06.13.44; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:13:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> References: <019c01c76d85$0e6904f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT> <4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <963155AB-4ECA-4082-96CE-1A003636C9E3@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ian Chakeres Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:31:31 +0530 To: Charles E. Perkins X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3002fc2e661cd7f114cb6bae92fe88f1 Cc: manet , manet-dt@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Re: PacketBB X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Charlie, I encouraged you (and others) to review PacketBB and to suggest improvements. If you feel PacketBB is too heavyweight please make specific suggestions to the authors and this list. I personally disagree about the expensive cost of PacketBB and the cost of using a TLV structure. Can you please provide some specific examples where the cost is large? Or where we might save lots of bits/ bytes for NHDP, DYMO, or OLSRv2? In my analysis PacketBB almost always results in fewer bits/bytes than a non-compacting format. Ian Chakeres On Mar 26, 2007, at 8:13 PM, Charles E. Perkins wrote: > > Hello folks, > > Once again, I urge that we place as much consideration as > possible on reducing message size to the maximum extent. > I have myself been reluctant to spend a lot of time on reviewing > the document because I worry that my comments will not be > taken as constructive. Ian has expressed his concern that I > am too late to make any suggestions for substantial change. > > I believe that the TLV structure is very expensive in terms > of byte overhead. I also think that parseability is far less > important than message size, although both are important. > I would rate the relative importance as 90% vs. 10% for > the parseability/size tradeoff. > > Similar considerations may apply to NHDP. > > It is pretty clear that the trend has been to be more > "IETF"-like in the message design, at the expense of > message size. In my opinion, this is inappropriate if we > want our work to be applicable for sensors or 6lowpan > or other low-power devices. When one byte of airtime > consumes as much energy as millions of processor cycles, > it makes sense to favor additional processing to reduce > message size. IETF protocols typically favor human > readability of the protocol document at the expense > of message size, and for many applications this is wholly > inappropriate. > > I would be very interested to hear opinions from other > members of the working group about this. > > Regards, > Charlie P. > > > > > ext Joe Macker wrote: >> At the manet WG meeting we discussed a workplan prior to moving >> SMF to Last >> Call for Experimental consideration. While some readability >> improvements may >> be done the authors request that the WG provide comments as soon as >> possible. Positive and general comments are encouraged along with >> others. >> If you an implementor and find something confusing we are >> interested in >> hearing from you. >> Please see the recent briefings on line from the last meeting to >> understand >> the recent changes and upcoming plan. >> >> Thanks, >> Joe >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Manet-dt mailing list >> Manet-dt@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Manet-dt mailing list > Manet-dt@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 28 09:56:25 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWYc5-0006mg-Pt; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:54:57 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWYc3-0006l2-9t for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:54:55 -0400 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.238]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWYX1-0006fq-1V for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:49:45 -0400 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h31so2921842wxd for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:49:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Nq1+ASXd15sPohkxeH4CSLYFHeUcgFATLqVR3TPG/ta94xUZV1fUx0AWjjmjlEM3edUZfMsWRmO7BQTO+sNRHMYNeRpLS+Sis/5SrLDVVU8itnIbcPnX5qFvj9nzd2pEhDW64iQ+KbT9VLF+xi/kx8fcvk9P+9LCVd6mqD0V4i8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MpPEq3H62OZtpB32XvNhuo3k3xFMRugiH8a6Qgdr9epxTAwmmjrJjHb2jTKkgKG9BXnntQNJIVY9jDl4uHAwgA2ahh044N/J0/OZLRP/HxwRhQYEwIK5iV9UlXNsxuqAlXuW4ERISKjzb39igCPquy8gdTqAgsulSRvxN4oHMNE= Received: by 10.90.90.16 with SMTP id n16mr3257007agb.1175089782376; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.74.16 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:49:42 +0200 From: "Romain Thouvenin" To: "Ian Chakeres" Subject: Re: [manet] Re: PacketBB In-Reply-To: <963155AB-4ECA-4082-96CE-1A003636C9E3@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <019c01c76d85$0e6904f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT> <4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> <963155AB-4ECA-4082-96CE-1A003636C9E3@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 287c806b254c6353fcb09ee0e53bbc5e Cc: manet , manet-dt@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org I had similar thoughts than Charlie. I am implementing DYMO on TinyOS, and the default packet size of AM messages is 28 bytes (it can be increased to up to about 250 bytes). So any saved byte is appreciated. On , I briefly describe a format for DYMO that I think smaller and simpler. I may be wrong, the implementation hasn't gone far enough yet to say anything. I only give two examples on the page, the sizes with the original format would be 37 and 23. Though the format is specifically designed for dymo, it might help improving packetbb. I hope. Regards, Romain On 3/28/07, Ian Chakeres wrote: > Charlie, I encouraged you (and others) to review PacketBB and to > suggest improvements. If you feel PacketBB is too heavyweight please > make specific suggestions to the authors and this list. > > I personally disagree about the expensive cost of PacketBB and the > cost of using a TLV structure. Can you please provide some specific > examples where the cost is large? Or where we might save lots of bits/ > bytes for NHDP, DYMO, or OLSRv2? In my analysis PacketBB almost > always results in fewer bits/bytes than a non-compacting format. > > Ian Chakeres > > On Mar 26, 2007, at 8:13 PM, Charles E. Perkins wrote: > > > > > Hello folks, > > > > Once again, I urge that we place as much consideration as > > possible on reducing message size to the maximum extent. > > I have myself been reluctant to spend a lot of time on reviewing > > the document because I worry that my comments will not be > > taken as constructive. Ian has expressed his concern that I > > am too late to make any suggestions for substantial change. > > > > I believe that the TLV structure is very expensive in terms > > of byte overhead. I also think that parseability is far less > > important than message size, although both are important. > > I would rate the relative importance as 90% vs. 10% for > > the parseability/size tradeoff. > > > > Similar considerations may apply to NHDP. > > > > It is pretty clear that the trend has been to be more > > "IETF"-like in the message design, at the expense of > > message size. In my opinion, this is inappropriate if we > > want our work to be applicable for sensors or 6lowpan > > or other low-power devices. When one byte of airtime > > consumes as much energy as millions of processor cycles, > > it makes sense to favor additional processing to reduce > > message size. IETF protocols typically favor human > > readability of the protocol document at the expense > > of message size, and for many applications this is wholly > > inappropriate. > > > > I would be very interested to hear opinions from other > > members of the working group about this. > > > > Regards, > > Charlie P. > > > > > > > > > > ext Joe Macker wrote: > >> At the manet WG meeting we discussed a workplan prior to moving > >> SMF to Last > >> Call for Experimental consideration. While some readability > >> improvements may > >> be done the authors request that the WG provide comments as soon as > >> possible. Positive and general comments are encouraged along with > >> others. > >> If you an implementor and find something confusing we are > >> interested in > >> hearing from you. > >> Please see the recent briefings on line from the last meeting to > >> understand > >> the recent changes and upcoming plan. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Joe > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Manet-dt mailing list > >> Manet-dt@ietf.org > >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Manet-dt mailing list > > Manet-dt@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 28 10:43:14 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWZKa-0005bR-7B; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:40:56 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWZKZ-0005bM-01 for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:40:55 -0400 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.188]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWZKW-0007ai-EG for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:40:54 -0400 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l36so3672803nfa for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:40:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FDVTkLAC3FJjsqbpxDa1sUqrxv7iFsaYp0mpCcCZ/QK88iyVKnxX59tkpLwVT2RhSQ6QujhJzx2c0Joj7NkjNqUP6i9+SFXlOaKzhidtayEMEz0KeUz7PkTWej9PiykvwlO7AMweqdp+Nf47+DfvVbXTFnUvOzwkken6L589bnA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eVLdpYUBANmZgCh2j7v/6mE13cxtGMA/1FQSAx5an240GLodl+CbeAn5gSDaWClY39KDHlogRKPLJ5m2ufBs7/CdBhjQFMkc6FN0nvVYYqM6LHCS42Lsr7DTq0BSsEWgVynasbMMd+n25CXP7LCG5vum4hTugctmI9hxofX1wzk= Received: by 10.78.138.6 with SMTP id l6mr4272784hud.1175092851401; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.45.10 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374005f30703280740k196840y32fdd50671535625@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:10:51 +0530 From: "Ian Chakeres" To: "Romain Thouvenin" Subject: Re: [manet] Re: PacketBB In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <019c01c76d85$0e6904f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT> <4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> <963155AB-4ECA-4082-96CE-1A003636C9E3@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b2809b6f39decc6de467dcf252f42af1 Cc: manet , manet-dt@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Romain, thanks for your implementation experience. It is great to hear from implementors about what works and more importantly what doesn't work. Can you make some specific suggestions regarding PacketBB and what you think could be improved? I would love it if you also examine NHDP or OLSRv2 to understand how PacketBB fulfills the needs of these three protocols. Maybe we can find something to make it simpler or more efficiency. I agree PacketBB could be simpler, but I think it would be at the expense of more bits & less flexibility. Ian On 3/28/07, Romain Thouvenin wrote: > I had similar thoughts than Charlie. > I am implementing DYMO on TinyOS, and the default packet size of AM > messages is 28 bytes (it can be increased to up to about 250 bytes). > So any saved byte is appreciated. > > On , I briefly describe a > format for DYMO that I think smaller and simpler. I may be wrong, the > implementation hasn't gone far enough yet to say anything. I only give > two examples on the page, the sizes with the original format would be > 37 and 23. > > Though the format is specifically designed for dymo, it might help > improving packetbb. I hope. > > Regards, > > Romain > > On 3/28/07, Ian Chakeres wrote: > > Charlie, I encouraged you (and others) to review PacketBB and to > > suggest improvements. If you feel PacketBB is too heavyweight please > > make specific suggestions to the authors and this list. > > > > I personally disagree about the expensive cost of PacketBB and the > > cost of using a TLV structure. Can you please provide some specific > > examples where the cost is large? Or where we might save lots of bits/ > > bytes for NHDP, DYMO, or OLSRv2? In my analysis PacketBB almost > > always results in fewer bits/bytes than a non-compacting format. > > > > Ian Chakeres > > > > On Mar 26, 2007, at 8:13 PM, Charles E. Perkins wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello folks, > > > > > > Once again, I urge that we place as much consideration as > > > possible on reducing message size to the maximum extent. > > > I have myself been reluctant to spend a lot of time on reviewing > > > the document because I worry that my comments will not be > > > taken as constructive. Ian has expressed his concern that I > > > am too late to make any suggestions for substantial change. > > > > > > I believe that the TLV structure is very expensive in terms > > > of byte overhead. I also think that parseability is far less > > > important than message size, although both are important. > > > I would rate the relative importance as 90% vs. 10% for > > > the parseability/size tradeoff. > > > > > > Similar considerations may apply to NHDP. > > > > > > It is pretty clear that the trend has been to be more > > > "IETF"-like in the message design, at the expense of > > > message size. In my opinion, this is inappropriate if we > > > want our work to be applicable for sensors or 6lowpan > > > or other low-power devices. When one byte of airtime > > > consumes as much energy as millions of processor cycles, > > > it makes sense to favor additional processing to reduce > > > message size. IETF protocols typically favor human > > > readability of the protocol document at the expense > > > of message size, and for many applications this is wholly > > > inappropriate. > > > > > > I would be very interested to hear opinions from other > > > members of the working group about this. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Charlie P. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ext Joe Macker wrote: > > >> At the manet WG meeting we discussed a workplan prior to moving > > >> SMF to Last > > >> Call for Experimental consideration. While some readability > > >> improvements may > > >> be done the authors request that the WG provide comments as soon as > > >> possible. Positive and general comments are encouraged along with > > >> others. > > >> If you an implementor and find something confusing we are > > >> interested in > > >> hearing from you. > > >> Please see the recent briefings on line from the last meeting to > > >> understand > > >> the recent changes and upcoming plan. > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Joe > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Manet-dt mailing list > > >> Manet-dt@ietf.org > > >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Manet-dt mailing list > > > Manet-dt@ietf.org > > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > manet mailing list > > manet@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 28 11:18:15 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWZtg-00072B-VP; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:17:12 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWZtf-00071v-Uy; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:17:11 -0400 Received: from smtp2.bae.co.uk ([20.133.0.12]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWZta-00071x-AD; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:17:11 -0400 Received: from smtpc.greenlnk.net (smtpc.greenlnk.net [10.15.160.220]) by smtp2.bae.co.uk (Switch-3.1.10/Switch-3.1.10) with ESMTP id l2SFGsG8011949; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:16:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from glkas0002.GREENLNK.NET (glkas0002.greenlnk.net [10.15.184.52]) by smtpc.greenlnk.net (Switch-3.1.9/Switch-3.1.9) with ESMTP id l2SFGpOg023812; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:16:51 +0100 Received: from glkms0001.GREENLNK.NET ([10.15.184.1]) by glkas0002.GREENLNK.NET with InterScan Message Security Suite; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:17:02 +0100 Received: from glkms2122.GREENLNK.NET ([10.15.184.26]) by glkms0001.GREENLNK.NET with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:17:06 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Manet-dt] Re: [manet] Re: PacketBB Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:17:03 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Manet-dt] Re: [manet] Re: PacketBB Thread-Index: AcdxR0Oa3nNcggNyTeqeStHJmONZOgAAoWVQ From: "Dearlove, Christopher \(UK\)" To: "Ian Chakeres" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2007 15:17:06.0696 (UTC) FILETIME=[25ADF880:01C7714C] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ea4ac80f790299f943f0a53be7e1a21a Cc: manet , manet-dt@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org From: Ian Chakeres [mailto:ian.chakeres@gmail.com]=20 >I agree PacketBB could be simpler, but I think it would be at the >expense of more bits & less flexibility. We have people pulling, as their priority, in four directions: - Fewer bits. - Simpler. - Most flexible. - Issued now. We've attempted to make engineering compromises between the first three of these, and now to satisfy the fourth by going to last call. We've incorporated various specific suggestions, possibly modified, along these lines throughout the process. (Optional packet headers and message header options being just the first examples that spring to mind.) As Ian has also said, if there are specific suggestions how to improve on any of these without significant impact on the others, that's what this process is here for. But so far I haven't. ******************************************************************** This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or distribute its contents to any other person. ******************************************************************** _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 28 11:34:03 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWa98-0006MW-7S; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:33:10 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWa96-0006L3-IQ; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:33:08 -0400 Received: from smtp.nokia.com ([131.228.20.171] helo=mgw-ext12.nokia.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWa95-0001gj-01; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:33:08 -0400 Received: from esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh105.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.211]) by mgw-ext12.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.5/Switch-3.2.5) with ESMTP id l2SFWoaD017098; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 18:33:03 +0300 Received: from daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.241.35.111]) by esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 28 Mar 2007 18:33:02 +0300 Received: from daebe101.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.241.35.113]) by daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:32:59 -0500 Received: from [10.162.85.153] ([10.162.85.153]) by daebe101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:32:59 -0500 Message-ID: <460A8AA7.8090006@nokia.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:32:55 -0700 From: "Charles E. Perkins" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ext Ian Chakeres References: <019c01c76d85$0e6904f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT> <4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> <963155AB-4ECA-4082-96CE-1A003636C9E3@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <963155AB-4ECA-4082-96CE-1A003636C9E3@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2007 15:33:00.0143 (UTC) FILETIME=[5DFA6FF0:01C7714E] X-eXpurgate-Category: 1/0 X-eXpurgate-ID: 149371::070328183303-3E69CBB0-40C479C9/0-0/0-1 X-Nokia-AV: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b4a0a5f5992e2a4954405484e7717d8c Cc: manet , manet-dt@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Re: PacketBB X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hello Ian, ext Ian Chakeres wrote: > Charlie, I encouraged you (and others) to review PacketBB and to > suggest improvements. If you feel PacketBB is too heavyweight please > make specific suggestions to the authors and this list. I will try to do this by next week. In order to do so, I will have to exhibit another packet format for comparison. This will, of course, involve certain assumptions that can then provide a lot of room for discussion and championing alternative assumptions. But perhaps at least it will provide a baseline for comparison. > > I personally disagree about the expensive cost of PacketBB and the > cost of using a TLV structure. Can you please provide some specific > examples where the cost is large? Or where we might save lots of > bits/bytes for NHDP, DYMO, or OLSRv2? In my analysis PacketBB almost > always results in fewer bits/bytes than a non-compacting format. My goal would be to save some substantial packet size in the average case. If I can't show how to do it, then I'll happily go along with the existing PacketBB structure, since it has been threshed out for long enough otherwise. Regards, Charlie P. > > Ian Chakeres > > On Mar 26, 2007, at 8:13 PM, Charles E. Perkins wrote: > >> >> Hello folks, >> >> Once again, I urge that we place as much consideration as >> possible on reducing message size to the maximum extent. >> I have myself been reluctant to spend a lot of time on reviewing >> the document because I worry that my comments will not be >> taken as constructive. Ian has expressed his concern that I >> am too late to make any suggestions for substantial change. >> >> I believe that the TLV structure is very expensive in terms >> of byte overhead. I also think that parseability is far less >> important than message size, although both are important. >> I would rate the relative importance as 90% vs. 10% for >> the parseability/size tradeoff. >> >> Similar considerations may apply to NHDP. >> >> It is pretty clear that the trend has been to be more >> "IETF"-like in the message design, at the expense of >> message size. In my opinion, this is inappropriate if we >> want our work to be applicable for sensors or 6lowpan >> or other low-power devices. When one byte of airtime >> consumes as much energy as millions of processor cycles, >> it makes sense to favor additional processing to reduce >> message size. IETF protocols typically favor human >> readability of the protocol document at the expense >> of message size, and for many applications this is wholly >> inappropriate. >> >> I would be very interested to hear opinions from other >> members of the working group about this. >> >> Regards, >> Charlie P. _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 28 11:41:33 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWaH2-0000gK-Sf; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:41:20 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWaH1-0000g1-0M; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:41:19 -0400 Received: from mx2.grc.nasa.gov ([128.156.11.69]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWaGz-0003QA-KM; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:41:18 -0400 Received: from lombok-fi.grc.nasa.gov (seraph.grc.nasa.gov [128.156.10.10]) by mx2.grc.nasa.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8BEC29D; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:41:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apataki.grc.nasa.gov (apataki.grc.nasa.gov [139.88.112.35]) by lombok-fi.grc.nasa.gov (NASA GRC TCPD 8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l2SFfFgA019914; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:41:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apataki.grc.nasa.gov (NASA GRC TCPD 8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l2SFfDMe004129; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:41:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apataki.grc.nasa.gov ([127.0.0.1])by localhost (apataki.grc.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)with ESMTP id vixO4kbP+bLM; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:41:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from drpepper.grc.nasa.gov (gr2134391.grc.nasa.gov [139.88.44.123])by apataki.grc.nasa.gov (NASA GRC TCPD 8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l2SFf8Ch004096;Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by drpepper.grc.nasa.gov (Postfix, from userid 501)id A8EBC4FE21; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:37:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:37:16 -0400 From: Wesley Eddy To: Ian Chakeres Subject: Re: [manet] Re: PacketBB Message-ID: <20070328153716.GE5888@grc.nasa.gov> References: <4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> <963155AB-4ECA-4082-96CE-1A003636C9E3@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <963155AB-4ECA-4082-96CE-1A003636C9E3@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-imss-version: 2.046 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:99.90000 C:2 M:3 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:1 C:1 M:1 S:1 R:1 (0.0000 0.0000) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e5ba305d0e64821bf3d8bc5d3bb07228 Cc: dtn-interest@mailman.dtnrg.org, manet , manet-dt@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: weddy@grc.nasa.gov List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 03:31:31PM +0530, Ian Chakeres wrote: > Charlie, I encouraged you (and others) to review PacketBB and to > suggest improvements. If you feel PacketBB is too heavyweight please > make specific suggestions to the authors and this list. > > I personally disagree about the expensive cost of PacketBB and the > cost of using a TLV structure. Can you please provide some specific > examples where the cost is large? Or where we might save lots of bits/ > bytes for NHDP, DYMO, or OLSRv2? In my analysis PacketBB almost > always results in fewer bits/bytes than a non-compacting format. > The IRTF Delay/Disruption-Tolerant Networking RG (DTNRG) shares some of the same concerns with MANET about saving power by transmitting fewer bits. I believe one of the techniques DTNRG is using may help the MANET packetbb a bit in this case. One concrete way to shave a few bytes is for the 'L' in each TLV, instead of using a 16-bit field, to use an SDNV (as done in the DTNRG protocols): http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-eddy-dtn-sdnv-02.txt (an update to this draft including C code is in the works) I haven't looked closely, but I speculate that several of those Ls in the protocols that use packetbb can fit within 7 bits, and so you should save a few bytes per message by doing this, at the expense of only slightly more processing. -- Wesley M. Eddy Verizon Federal Network Systems _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 28 11:47:26 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWaLZ-0001qi-0V; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:46:01 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWaLX-0001pc-2W; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:45:59 -0400 Received: from blv-smtpout-01.boeing.com ([130.76.32.69] helo=blv-smtpout-01.ns.cs.boeing.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWaLU-0004CY-QD; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:45:59 -0400 Received: from stl-av-01.boeing.com (stl-av-01.boeing.com [192.76.190.6]) by blv-smtpout-01.ns.cs.boeing.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/TEST_SMTPIN) with ESMTP id l2SFjrwT004545 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stl-av-01.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stl-av-01.boeing.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/DOWNSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id l2SFjqMq015496; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:45:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from XCH-NWBH-11.nw.nos.boeing.com (xch-nwbh-11.nw.nos.boeing.com [130.247.55.84]) by stl-av-01.boeing.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/UPSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id l2SFjWUi014314; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:45:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.54.35]) by XCH-NWBH-11.nw.nos.boeing.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:45:43 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:45:42 -0700 Message-ID: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A101774841@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> In-Reply-To: <460A8AA7.8090006@nokia.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Manet-dt] Re: PacketBB Thread-Index: AcdxTmxFM1Bmx7MgSNiGtkIb+2oaYwAAP5Dg References: <019c01c76d85$0e6904f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT><4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com><963155AB-4ECA-4082-96CE-1A003636C9E3@gmail.com> <460A8AA7.8090006@nokia.com> From: "Templin, Fred L" To: "Charles E. Perkins" , "ext Ian Chakeres" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2007 15:45:43.0707 (UTC) FILETIME=[25190EB0:01C77150] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7a6398bf8aaeabc7a7bb696b6b0a2aad Cc: manet , manet-dt@ietf.org Subject: [manet] RE: [Manet-dt] Re: PacketBB X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org > My goal would be to save some substantial packet size in the average > case. But can you do this without loss of generality? FWIW, I advocated a TLV approach for packet encoding a long time ago but was beaten back by forces that preferred efficiency above all. If you're not careful, what you end up with is a proprietary solution and/or limited domain of applicability. Fred fred.l.templin@boeing.com _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 28 12:00:25 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWaYb-0004Qm-P5; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:59:29 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWaYZ-0004Qe-Q5; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:59:27 -0400 Received: from smtp1.bae.co.uk ([20.133.0.11]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWaYY-0006Pv-3E; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:59:27 -0400 Received: from smtpb.greenlnk.net (smtpb.greenlnk.net [10.15.160.219]) by smtp1.bae.co.uk (Switch-3.1.10/Switch-3.1.10) with ESMTP id l2SFxNZk004472; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:59:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from glkas0002.GREENLNK.NET (glkas0002.greenlnk.net [10.15.184.52]) by smtpb.greenlnk.net (Switch-3.1.9/Switch-3.1.9) with ESMTP id l2SFxJB5002380; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:59:19 +0100 Received: from glkms0001.GREENLNK.NET ([10.15.184.1]) by glkas0002.GREENLNK.NET with InterScan Message Security Suite; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:59:30 +0100 Received: from glkms2122.GREENLNK.NET ([10.15.184.26]) by glkms0001.GREENLNK.NET with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:59:31 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [manet] RE: [Manet-dt] Re: PacketBB Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:59:29 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [manet] RE: [Manet-dt] Re: PacketBB Thread-Index: AcdxTmxFM1Bmx7MgSNiGtkIb+2oaYwAAP5DgAAA64UA= From: "Dearlove, Christopher \(UK\)" To: "Templin, Fred L" , "Charles E. Perkins" , "ext Ian Chakeres" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2007 15:59:31.0313 (UTC) FILETIME=[1263B610:01C77152] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 69a74e02bbee44ab4f8eafdbcedd94a1 Cc: manet , manet-dt@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Fred >Charlie >> My goal would be to save some substantial packet size in the average >> case. > But can you do this without loss of generality? Here are some things that packetbb gives us, and this is not a complete list. (I'm ignoring packet size things, as obviously a less efficient solution isn't going to be a suggestion.) - Used by OLSRv2, NHDP, DYMO, SMF. In particular if NHDP is use by all, how do they share its information? - Multi-message packets allowing piggybacking. In many systems owing to other overheads, the packet size is less important than the number of packets sent. - Supports the OLSRv2 model of message processing and forwarding separation, with "lazy parsing" as an option. - Has the facilities to incorporate just about every extension to OLSRv2 we're aware of. Some of these are now to be standardised in OLSRv2 (variable radius flooding for example) while others remain outside standardisation, but are important to people. Two (of many possible) examples - packet hop by hop or message end to end signatures, link costs. - OLSRv1 compatibility option in format. This is useful to us. ******************************************************************** This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or distribute its contents to any other person. ******************************************************************** _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 28 12:14:52 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWalm-0004l5-OI; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:13:06 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWall-0004jS-Ep; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:13:05 -0400 Received: from smtp.nokia.com ([131.228.20.172] helo=mgw-ext13.nokia.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWalj-0007yT-OE; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:13:05 -0400 Received: from esebh106.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh106.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.213]) by mgw-ext13.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.5/Switch-3.2.5) with ESMTP id l2SGCowU013664; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:12:59 +0300 Received: from daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.241.35.111]) by esebh106.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:12:33 +0300 Received: from daebe101.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.241.35.113]) by daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:12:22 -0500 Received: from [10.162.85.153] ([10.162.85.153]) by daebe101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:12:22 -0500 Message-ID: <460A93DE.90409@nokia.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:12:14 -0700 From: "Charles E. Perkins" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ext Templin, Fred L" References: <019c01c76d85$0e6904f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT><4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com><963155AB-4ECA-4082-96CE-1A003636C9E3@gmail.com> <460A8AA7.8090006@nokia.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A101774841@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> In-Reply-To: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A101774841@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2007 16:12:23.0251 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE801A30:01C77153] X-eXpurgate-Category: 1/0 X-eXpurgate-ID: 149371::070328191259-35060BB0-17CD7223/0-0/0-1 X-Nokia-AV: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0bc60ec82efc80c84b8d02f4b0e4de22 Cc: manet , manet-dt@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Re: PacketBB X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hello Fred, O.K. I will try to be careful to avoid the undesirable results you mentioned. What do you think about Romain's proposal? Regards, Charlie P. ext Templin, Fred L wrote: >> My goal would be to save some substantial packet size in the average >> case. >> > > But can you do this without loss of generality? > > FWIW, I advocated a TLV approach for packet encoding a > long time ago but was beaten back by forces that preferred > efficiency above all. If you're not careful, what you end > up with is a proprietary solution and/or limited domain of > applicability. > > Fred > fred.l.templin@boeing.com > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 28 12:28:00 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWayz-0007fG-6v; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:26:45 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWayx-0007eW-Ud; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:26:43 -0400 Received: from slb-smtpout-01.boeing.com ([130.76.64.48] helo=slb-smtpout-01.ns.cs.boeing.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWayv-00034z-M1; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:26:43 -0400 Received: from blv-av-01.boeing.com (blv-av-01.boeing.com [192.42.227.216]) by slb-smtpout-01.ns.cs.boeing.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/TEST_SMTPIN) with ESMTP id l2SGQedD011624 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blv-av-01.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blv-av-01.boeing.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/DOWNSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id l2SGQeUT022096; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from XCH-NWBH-11.nw.nos.boeing.com (xch-nwbh-11.nw.nos.boeing.com [130.247.55.84]) by blv-av-01.boeing.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/UPSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id l2SGQbai021928; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.54.35]) by XCH-NWBH-11.nw.nos.boeing.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:26:40 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:26:39 -0700 Message-ID: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A101774844@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> In-Reply-To: <460A93DE.90409@nokia.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Manet-dt] Re: PacketBB Thread-Index: AcdxU/bE4LaBDG5sSgC4kJg56ZNFHwAAX/Ow References: <019c01c76d85$0e6904f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT><4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com><963155AB-4ECA-4082-96CE-1A003636C9E3@gmail.com> <460A8AA7.8090006@nokia.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A101774841@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <460A93DE.90409@nokia.com> From: "Templin, Fred L" To: "Charles E. Perkins" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2007 16:26:40.0192 (UTC) FILETIME=[DD46EC00:01C77155] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7bac9cb154eb5790ae3b2913587a40de Cc: manet , manet-dt@ietf.org Subject: [manet] RE: [Manet-dt] Re: PacketBB X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org > What do you think about Romain's proposal? I don't know; I was just starting to look at Wesley's proposal and hadn't gotten around to Romain's yet. But on first glance, it seems to be specific to DYMO; can it be generalized to other protocols? (I probably won't have much time to look at this in more details...) Fred fred.l.templin@boeing.com _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 28 12:57:10 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWbRI-00026F-Cn; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:56:00 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWbRF-000227-Dr; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:55:57 -0400 Received: from smtp2.bae.co.uk ([20.133.0.12]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWbRB-0001wv-Vg; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:55:57 -0400 Received: from smtpb.greenlnk.net (smtpb.greenlnk.net [10.15.160.219]) by smtp2.bae.co.uk (Switch-3.1.10/Switch-3.1.10) with ESMTP id l2SGtnaV002405; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:55:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from glkas0002.GREENLNK.NET (glkas0002.greenlnk.net [10.15.184.52]) by smtpb.greenlnk.net (Switch-3.1.9/Switch-3.1.9) with ESMTP id l2SGtjHo002174; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:55:45 +0100 Received: from glkms0001.GREENLNK.NET ([10.15.184.1]) by glkas0002.GREENLNK.NET with InterScan Message Security Suite; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:55:56 +0100 Received: from glkms2122.GREENLNK.NET ([10.15.184.26]) by glkms0001.GREENLNK.NET with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:55:56 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [manet] RE: [Manet-dt] Re: PacketBB Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:55:55 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [manet] RE: [Manet-dt] Re: PacketBB Thread-Index: AcdxU/bE4LaBDG5sSgC4kJg56ZNFHwAAX/OwAADn5BA= From: "Dearlove, Christopher \(UK\)" To: "Templin, Fred L" , "Charles E. Perkins" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2007 16:55:56.0063 (UTC) FILETIME=[F3DB92F0:01C77159] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 4b800b1eab964a31702fa68f1ff0e955 Cc: manet , manet-dt@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org I know, top-posting is more evil than NAT. But sometimes you need NAT, and sometimes ... It's not just specific to DYMO, it's pretty specific to a 16-bit addressed unexpandable version of DYMO that would have no possibility of adding e.g. NHDP- based optimised flooding - which can save you tens of copies of a message rather than bytes per message. I cannot see how we can produce a format which has the flexibility that we need while offering the compression that Romain is after. I think to cripple packetbb in saving a few bytes that will still not be acceptable to Romain is going to please no one. Please note I'm not saying Romain is wrong, I'm saying he has a different problem (or rather an extreme set of weightings of the requirements) and produces a different solution. What would be interesting would be a fully specified set of preconditions on which subset of packetbb is being addressed, and a fully specified translation (compression/decompression) process between the two (or some evolution thereof). If anyone wants to write one, I'll read it. You might find 6LoWPAN interested. -----Original Message----- From: Templin, Fred L [mailto:Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com]=20 Sent: 28 March 2007 17:27 To: Charles E. Perkins Cc: manet; manet-dt@ietf.org Subject: [manet] RE: [Manet-dt] Re: PacketBB *** WARNING *** This mail has originated outside your organization, either from an external partner or the Global Internet.=20 Keep this in mind if you answer this message.=20 > What do you think about Romain's proposal? I don't know; I was just starting to look at Wesley's proposal and hadn't gotten around to Romain's yet. But on first glance, it seems to be specific to DYMO; can it be generalized to other protocols? (I probably won't have much time to look at this in more details...) Fred fred.l.templin@boeing.com _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet ******************************************************************** This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender. 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Localized protocols provide scalable solutions, that is, solFrom manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 28 14:47:56 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWdAn-0003nz-0S; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:47:05 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWdAl-0003nn-AZ for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:47:03 -0400 Received: from syssoft.uni-trier.de ([136.199.54.243] helo=tamdhu.uni-trier.de) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWdAj-0004JA-Om for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:47:03 -0400 Received: from notebookhannes (tamdhu.uni-trier.de [136.199.54.243]) by tamdhu.uni-trier.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8271D0130 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:47:00 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hannes Frey" To: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:46:46 +0200 Message-ID: <002d01c77169$6fb24f90$b02f3557@notebookhannes> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcdxaW95rppxlLg7R+G9kjORN9PdiQ== X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 67c1ea29f88502ef6a32ccec927970f0 Subject: [manet] Call for Papers - LOCAN 2007 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Our apologies if you receive duplicates of this posting. 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In particular, sensor networks are currently recognized as one of the priority research areas (for example, a multi-disciplinary program on sensors and sensor networks was launched in 2003 at the US National Science Foundation) and research activities are booming recently. This workshop concentrates on network layer problems like data communication (routing, QoS-routing, geocasting, multicasting, broadcasting, etc.) and topology control (neighbor discovery, power adjustment, neighbor elimination, etc.). The main paradigm shift is to apply localized (or greedy) schemes as opposed to existing protocols requiring global information. Localized algorithms are distributed algorithms where simple local node behavior achieves a desired global objective. Localized protocols provide scalable solutions, that is, solutions for wireless networks with an arbitrary number of nodes, which is the main goal of this plan. Sensor and rooftop/mesh networks, for instance, have hundreds or thousands of nodes. The objective of the workshop is to present state of the art research results on data communication and topology control in rapidly growing area of ad hoc and sensor networks, with emphasizes on localized techniques. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to: * Medium access control * Analytical, mobility and validation models * Hybrid networks and wireless Internet * Security in ad hoc networks * Data management, query processing, and data delivery in sensor networks * Unicast routing, multicasting, and broadcasting * Geocasting and anycasting * Energy-efficient and bandwidth-efficient protocols * Quality of service in medium access control and routing * Topology construction and maintenance * Neighborhood discovery and mobility management * Localized protocols for duty-cycled sensor networks * Sensor area coverage problems * Auto-configuration and network formation protocols and algorithms * Relative positioning algorithms * Lower bounds on information exchange required for localized solutions * Network graph properties supporting localized protocols * Worst and average case analysis on the deviation from optimal solutions IMPORTANT DATES --------------- Manuscript Submission: April 30, 2007 Acceptance Notification: July 15, 2007 Final Manuscript Due: August 10, 2007 Workshop Date: October 12, 2007 PAPER SUBMISSION ---------------- Papers must not exceed 10 single-spaced and two-column pages using at least 10 point size type on 8.5 x 11 inches pages. 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Sensor and rooftop/mesh networks, for instance, have hundreds or thousands of nodes. The objective of the workshop is to present state of the art research results on data communication and topology control in rapidly growing area of ad hoc and sensor networks, with emphasizes on localized techniques. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to: * Medium access control * Analytical, mobility and validation models * Hybrid networks and wireless Internet * Security in ad hoc networks * Data management, query processing, and data delivery in sensor networks * Unicast routing, multicasting, and broadcasting * Geocasting and anycasting * Energy-efficient and bandwidth-efficient protocols * Quality of service in medium access control and routing * Topology construction and maintenance * Neighborhood discovery and mobility management * Localized protocols for duty-cycled sensor networks * Sensor area coverage problems * Auto-configuration and network formation protocols and algorithms * Relative positioning algorithms * Lower bounds on information exchange required for localized solutions * Network graph properties supporting localized protocols * Worst and average case analysis on the deviation from optimal solutions IMPORTANT DATES --------------- Manuscript Submission: April 30, 2007 Acceptance Notification: July 15, 2007 Final Manuscript Due: August 10, 2007 Workshop Date: October 12, 2007 PAPER SUBMISSION ---------------- Papers must not exceed 10 single-spaced and two-column pages using at least 10 point size type on 8.5 x 11 inches pages. See style files, author guidelines and instructions at the conference website. Accepted papers will be included in the MASS main proceedings and will be published by IEEE Computer Society Press. Please submit papers via the EDAS system using the following link: http://edas.info/5496. In case of trouble please contact locan-submission@site.uottawa.ca. GENERAL CO-CHAIRS ----------------- David Simplot-Ryl, University of Lille, France Ivan Stojmenovic, University of Ottawa, Canada PROGRAM CO-CHAIRS ----------------- Pedro M. Ruiz, University of Murcia, Spain Hannes Frey, University of Southern Denmark Program Committee ----------------- Will be announced on the workshop web site. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ---------------------- Additional information about the workshop will be continuously updated at the LOCAN 2007 website: http://ants.dif.um.es/locan2007 In urgent cases you might also contact the workshop organizers directly by using the following mail address: locan@site.uottawa.ca. _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 28 14:47:56 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWdBb-0004Ly-Ga; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:47:55 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWdBa-0004Lm-8B; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:47:54 -0400 Received: from outbound.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.171]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWdBY-0004R6-W0; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:47:54 -0400 Received: from did75-10-82-236-230-133.fbx.proxad.net ([82.236.230.133] helo=[192.168.147.109]) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HWdBX-0004Kg-O1; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:47:51 -0400 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 82.236.230.133 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: voop In-Reply-To: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A101774841@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <019c01c76d85$0e6904f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT><4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com><963155AB-4ECA-4082-96CE-1A003636C9E3@gmail.com> <460A8AA7.8090006@nokia.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A101774841@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <65D62FA8-4AC9-49BB-9D05-00E8298BA1E0@computer.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Thomas Clausen Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:48:12 +0200 To: "Templin, Fred L" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8b431ad66d60be2d47c7bfeb879db82c Cc: manet , manet-dt@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Re: PacketBB X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org On Mar 28, 2007, at 5:45 PM, Templin, Fred L wrote: >> My goal would be to save some substantial packet size in the average >> case. > > But can you do this without loss of generality? > > FWIW, I advocated a TLV approach for packet encoding a > long time ago but was beaten back by forces that preferred > efficiency above all. If you're not careful, what you end > up with is a proprietary solution and/or limited domain of > applicability. I concur with what Fred Templin states above. OSPF went down the same route with their LLS... A lot of efforts were spent on the design of packetbb - in particular, in achieving a general format offering extensibility, parse-ability and compactness -- the latter through compressable/ aggregateable addresses and modular message/packet/tlv headers. And, I may add, in an open process where all input that was brought forward was carefully reflected on and taken into account as best possible. Chris has already cited examples hereof, so I won't do that unless prodded to do so. I'll not reiterate Chris' email, but I agree with the general comments he make, that there're requirements pulling in opposite directions for the design of packetbb. My point of view is, that packetbb offers a good compromise between these requirements. I can only speak for OLSR, however message sizes are in the "average case" for OLSRv2 expected (and observed) to be less than for OLSRv1 -- with the added benefit of a more flexible/extensible format to boost. I'd really not like to revert to a proprietary packet/message format, which will leave us with no extensibility and complicated parsing logic. I'd also rather not have to spend another 2+ years in development of an alternative format, when one exists which I find to be a good compromise. Thomas -- Thomas Clausen Thomas.Clausen@polytechnique.fr http://www.lix.polytechnique.fr/Labo/Thomas.Clausen/ http://www.lix.polytechnique.fr/hipercom/ _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet 8090006@nokia.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A101774841@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <65D62FA8-4AC9-49BB-9D05-00E8298BA1E0@computer.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Thomas Clausen Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:48:12 +0200 To: "Templin, Fred L" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8b431ad66d60be2d47c7bfeb879db82c Cc: manet , manet-dt@ietf.org Subject: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Re: PacketBB X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org On Mar 28, 2007, at 5:45 PM, Templin, Fred L wrote: >> My goal would be to save some substantial packet size in the average >> case. > > But can you do this without loss of generality? > > FWIW, I advocated a TLV approach for packet encoding a > long time ago but was beaten back by forces that preferred > efficiency above all. If you're not careful, what you end > up with is a proprietary solution and/or limited domain of > applicability. I concur with what Fred Templin states above. OSPF went down the same route with their LLS... A lot of efforts were spent on the design of packetbb - in particular, in achieving a general format offering extensibility, parse-ability and compactness -- the latter through compressable/ aggregateable addresses and modular message/packet/tlv headers. And, I may add, in an open process where all input that was brought forward was carefully reflected on and taken into account as best possible. Chris has already cited examples hereof, so I won't do that unless prodded to do so. I'll not reiterate Chris' email, but I agree with the general comments he make, that there're requirements pulling in opposite directions for the design of packetbb. My point of view is, that packetbb offers a good compromise between these requirements. I can only speak for OLSR, however message sizes are in the "average case" for OLSRv2 expected (and observed) to be less than for OLSRv1 -- with the added benefit of a more flexible/extensible format to boost. I'd really not like to revert to a proprietary packet/message format, which will leave us with no extensibility and complicated parsing logic. I'd also rather not have to spend another 2+ years in development of an alternative format, when one exists which I find to be a good compromise. Thomas -- Thomas Clausen Thomas.Clausen@polytechnique.fr http://www.lix.polytechnique.fr/Labo/Thomas.Clausen/ http://www.lix.polytechnique.fr/hipercom/ _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 28 15:03:13 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWdP6-00060k-OI; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:01:52 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWdP6-00060f-1J for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:01:52 -0400 Received: from smtp102.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.235]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWdOj-0007b7-Ti for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:01:52 -0400 Received: (qmail 82805 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2007 18:54:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.es; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=krSyr5Ci8AIcYrE2LQ5jGwLm0BmUbNLlivvyekZn+dp+9VBGjNq9lttAgMhkTvOY4matQkc2Dm/MJ5CLKhHY599bM84S501n4XM8M4V1SlX033uuhdzgAw1SpGJMr+X0sd9fpsATqeOn7soxly92/T2Xf63bilaDYxZDH7ZGbpA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO portatil) (miguel_sepulcre@193.147.143.11 with login) by smtp102.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2007 18:54:48 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: SoCIuR0VM1kssCgFL2.weveKELVyIppQ79qs5OGyjdwg1eR_3oPKYX6CpVMKE1xXpwB9wM47Fl2u_8GOaNPexcDzUX7bakJED3.rGScKXj5jalVn.KI- Message-ID: <00d001c7716a$8e69d100$5804010a@portatil> From: "Miguel Sepulcre" To: References: <001a01c764f3$65dfba20$0501a8c0@portatil> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:54:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b2809b6f39decc6de467dcf252f42af1 Subject: [manet] IEEE International Symposium on Wireless VehicularCommunications (IEEE WiVeC) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this CFP.] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1st IEEE International Symposium on Wireless Vehicular Communications (IEEE WiVeC'07) 30th September - 1st October 2007, Baltimore, USA Renaissance Harborplace Hotel, 202 East Pratt Street, Baltimore, MD, USA, 21202 http://www.ieee-wivec.org Sponsored by the IEEE Vehicular Technology Society (VTS) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wireless vehicular communications has been identified as a key technology for increasing road safety and transport efficiency, and providing Internet access on the move to ensure wireless ubiquitous connectivity. The potential of this technology has been acknowledged with the establishment of ambitious research programs worldwide, such as the European eSafety initiative, the US programs derived from the Intelligent Vehicle Initiative and the Japanese InternetITS and AHS programs. The IEEE Vehicular Technology Society (VTS) currently covers through its areas of interest (Mobile Radio, Transportation Systems and Automotive Electronics) all technical aspects needed to make wireless vehicular communications a reality. As a result, the IEEE VTS society has decided to establish a technical symposium on wireless vehicular communications, with the first issues planned to be co-located with the reputed IEEE VTC conferences. The IEEE International Symposium on Wireless Vehicular Communications (WiVeC) will cover all vehicular wireless communications aspects of Vehicle-to-Vehicle (V2V), Vehicle-to-Infrastructure (V2I) and Vehicle-to-Person (V2P) communications, including implications on transport efficiency and safety, implications on automotive electronics, liability issues, standardizations efforts and spectrum assignment. The first IEEE WiVeC symposium will be collocated with the 66th IEEE Vehicular Technology Conference and will take place at the Renaissance Harborplace Hotel in Baltimore on the 30th September and 1st October 2007. Combined registrations packages will be offered to attendees to WiVeC and VTC conferences. Accepted papers will appear in the conference proceedings published by the IEEE and will be included in the IEEE Xplore digital library. A selection of the best five WiVeC papers will be published in a special issue of the IEEE Vehicular Technology Magazine www.ieeevtm.org. Authors are encouraged to submit full papers (a maximum of five pages) through the conference web site. Topics of interest ------------------ The WiVec Symposium seeks original papers - not published or currently under review for another workshop, conference, or journal - in the area of vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V), vehicle-to-infrastructure (V2I), and vehicle-to-person (V2P) wireless communications. Areas of interest include, but are not limited to: * RF technologies, antenna design, physical layer and propagation models. * Radio resource management and interference management. * Spectrum assignment and EMC regulations. * Architecture, networking protocols (including ad-hoc, routing, data dissemination, etc) and their evalutation. * QoS and cross-layer optimization design. * Communications systems and technologies. * Testbeds and simulation platforms. * Interworking with sensor network technologies. * In-car electronics and embedded integration of wireless vehicular communications. * Roadside infrastructure. * Mobility management, mobility and vehicle traffic models. * Digital maps and location technologies. * Decision and control issues. * Human-Machine Interface. * Applications (Ecall, toll collection, traffic information, wireless diagnosis etc.). * Security, liability and privacy. * Standards development, business models, policies (e.g., Cooperative aspects of vehicular communication). * Assessment of impact on transport efficiency and safety. * Scalability issues in metropolitan-wide vehicular networks. Submissions ----------- Authors are encouraged to submit full length papers (maximum 5 pages) following the submission guidelines provided at www.ieee-wivec.org Accepted papers will appear in the conference proceedings published by the IEEE and will be included in the IEEE Xplore digital library. A selection of the best five WiVeC papers will be published in a special issue of the IEEE Vehicular Technology Magazine (www.ieeevtm.org). Organizing Committee (to be completed) -------------------- General Co-Chairs: - Mario Gerla, University of California (UCLA), USA - Javier Gozalvez, University Miguel Hernandez, Spain Technical Program Co-Chairs: - Fan Bai, General Motors, USA - Hannes Hartenstein, Karlsruhe University, Germany Speakers Chair - Timo Kosch, BMW, Germany Panel Chair - Jim Misener, PATH Berkeley, USA Finance Chair: - James Irvine, University of Strathclyde, UK Important Dates --------------- Paper Submission Deadline, 15 April 2007 Notification of acceptance, 22 May 2007 Camera-ready papers due, 8 June 2007 ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 28 15:13:10 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWdZC-00012i-7J; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:12:18 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWdZ8-0000vv-CZ; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:12:14 -0400 Received: from mx2.grc.nasa.gov ([128.156.11.69]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWdZ7-0001qG-1C; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:12:14 -0400 Received: from lombok-fi.grc.nasa.gov (seraph.grc.nasa.gov [128.156.10.10]) by mx2.grc.nasa.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7C3C2B5; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:12:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apataki.grc.nasa.gov (apataki.grc.nasa.gov [139.88.112.35]) by lombok-fi.grc.nasa.gov (NASA GRC TCPD 8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l2SJCA2r028464; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:12:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apataki.grc.nasa.gov (NASA GRC TCPD 8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l2SJCAX3017132; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:12:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apataki.grc.nasa.gov ([127.0.0.1])by localhost (apataki.grc.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)with ESMTP id iPAMblHzILzd; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:12:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from drpepper.grc.nasa.gov (gr2134391.grc.nasa.gov [139.88.44.123])by apataki.grc.nasa.gov (NASA GRC TCPD 8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l2SJC96Q017128;Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by drpepper.grc.nasa.gov (Postfix, from userid 501)id 748294FE21; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:08:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:08:17 -0400 From: Wesley Eddy To: Thomas Clausen Subject: Re: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Re: PacketBB Message-ID: <20070328190817.GA7255@grc.nasa.gov> References: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A101774841@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boei ng.com> <65D62FA8-4AC9-49BB-9D05-00E8298BA1E0@computer.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <65D62FA8-4AC9-49BB-9D05-00E8298BA1E0@computer.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-imss-version: 2.046 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:99.90000 C:2 M:3 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:1 C:1 M:1 S:1 R:1 (0.0000 0.0000) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3 Cc: manet , manet-dt@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: weddy@grc.nasa.gov List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 08:48:12PM +0200, Thomas Clausen wrote: > > I'll not reiterate Chris' email, but I agree with the general > comments he make, that there're requirements pulling in opposite > directions for the design of packetbb. My point of view is, that > packetbb offers a good compromise between these requirements. I can > only speak for OLSR, however message sizes are in the "average case" > for OLSRv2 expected (and observed) to be less than for OLSRv1 -- with > the added benefit of a more flexible/extensible format to boost. > > I'd really not like to revert to a proprietary packet/message format, > which will leave us with no extensibility and complicated parsing > logic. I'd also rather not have to spend another 2+ years in > development of an alternative format, when one exists which I find to > be a good compromise. > How big are the typical L-values in the TLVs used in OLSRv2? If they're under 2^7, an SDNV-encoding of L-values rather than using a fixed 16-bits makes sense, and I think this would be a minor-enough change that the existing packetbb work would be otherwise unperturbed. -- Wesley M. Eddy Verizon Federal Network Systems _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 28 21:27:26 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWjMv-0002zT-2L; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:24:01 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWjMt-0002yq-6r; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:23:59 -0400 Received: from mail4.hitachi.co.jp ([133.145.228.5]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWjMo-0002KL-Fn; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:23:59 -0400 Received: from mlsv5.hitachi.co.jp (unknown [133.144.234.166]) by mail4.hitachi.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2118133CC4; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:23:53 +0900 (JST) Received: from mfilter-s6.hitachi.co.jp by mlsv5.hitachi.co.jp (8.12.10/8.12.10) id l2T1Nu0j006035; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:23:56 +0900 Received: from vshuts2.hitachi.co.jp (unverified) by mfilter-s6.hitachi.co.jp (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.17) with SMTP id ; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:23:52 +0900 Received: from hsdlgw92.sdl.hitachi.co.jp ([133.144.7.20]) by vshuts2.hitachi.co.jp with SMTP id M2007032910235204852 ; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:23:52 +0900 Received: from vgate2.sdl.hitachi.co.jp by hsdlgw92.sdl.hitachi.co.jp (8.13.1/3.7W06092911) id l2T1Nqo3010447; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:23:52 +0900 Received: from sdl99w.sdl.hitachi.co.jp ([133.144.14.250]) by vgate2.sdl.hitachi.co.jp (SAVSMTP 3.1.1.32) with SMTP id M2007032910235106155 ; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:23:51 +0900 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (IDENT:U2FsdGVkX18sfUlT84E+2MDOB33qfjferp7PV9IbAsM@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sdl99w.sdl.hitachi.co.jp (8.13.1/3.7W04031011) with ESMTP id l2T1Njd3019449; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:23:46 +0900 In-Reply-To: <4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> References: <019c01c76d85$0e6904f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT> <4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <06E6CE31-1A9A-4DA8-81EE-6ACFC9951664@hitachi.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "SATOH, Hiroki (HitachiSDL)" Subject: Re: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:23:44 +0900 To: manet , manet-dt@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 6d95a152022472c7d6cdf886a0424dc6 Cc: X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org I agree with the importance of reducing message size especially for sensor network. And it could be applicable if we change packet format with smart way. But from industrial point of view, I also worry about DELAY for the standardization. Almost all companies could not follow frequent draft update, because of a lot of cost. And MANET WG already advertised PacketBB almost Last Call for RFC in 67th and 68th IETF. So I urge that first of all we move packetBB to RFC. After standardization, we start to discuss how improve packet format and update RFC in need. In my opinion packet format applicability depends on the service or the application in real world. It may difficult to cover every situation by only one document. Because the new service or the new situation become available by technological invention day by day. I think the merit of Last Call much bigger than that of delayed standardization. The improvement update for real application from now on will be done after standardization, I think. Again I strongly recommend accelerate EVERY standardization process. Because I hope the MANET technique will be available as soon as possible in real world from industrial standpoint, now only use for some experimental work or limited field. Regards, Hiroki --------------------------------------------- SATOH, Hiroki Hitachi, Ltd., Systems Development Laboratory E-mail : hiroki.satoh.yj@hitachi.com --------------------------------------------- On 2007/03/26, at 23:43, Charles E. Perkins wrote: > > Hello folks, > > Once again, I urge that we place as much consideration as > possible on reducing message size to the maximum extent. > I have myself been reluctant to spend a lot of time on reviewing > the document because I worry that my comments will not be > taken as constructive. Ian has expressed his concern that I > am too late to make any suggestions for substantial change. > > I believe that the TLV structure is very expensive in terms > of byte overhead. I also think that parseability is far less > important than message size, although both are important. > I would rate the relative importance as 90% vs. 10% for > the parseability/size tradeoff. > > Similar considerations may apply to NHDP. > > It is pretty clear that the trend has been to be more > "IETF"-like in the message design, at the expense of > message size. In my opinion, this is inappropriate if we > want our work to be applicable for sensors or 6lowpan > or other low-power devices. When one byte of airtime > consumes as much energy as millions of processor cycles, > it makes sense to favor additional processing to reduce > message size. IETF protocols typically favor human > readability of the protocol document at the expense > of message size, and for many applications this is wholly > inappropriate. > > I would be very interested to hear opinions from other > members of the working group about this. > > Regards, > Charlie P. > > > > > ext Joe Macker wrote: >> At the manet WG meeting we discussed a workplan prior to moving >> SMF to Last >> Call for Experimental consideration. While some readability >> improvements may >> be done the authors request that the WG provide comments as soon as >> possible. Positive and general comments are encouraged along with >> others. >> If you an implementor and find something confusing we are >> interested in >> hearing from you. >> Please see the recent briefings on line from the last meeting to >> understand >> the recent changes and upcoming plan. >> >> Thanks, >> Joe >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Manet-dt mailing list >> Manet-dt@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Manet-dt mailing list > Manet-dt@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 28 22:23:41 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWkHy-0008WO-GM; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:22:58 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWkHw-0008WG-CL for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:22:56 -0400 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.224]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWkHu-0005VR-Sg for manet@ietf.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:22:56 -0400 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h31so47799wxd for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:22:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=puHy8k2KTYrcXhpZQ8EtAiuLmQuzztkh3qpxZB9a1nP6jFP/l2255pIZCieVXfNgaUI3k9N5orhRjEMeVovMDw7qm16S+hBwu1CR5VUI8pzUKC9un4TbdheWrWz1PMO9ruqfXjfBMnGKM8vNMEtzrawBGax7HvKDsWroRWJi34Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=uRm3s2V/JZYWywYZyWDSmvHOz/U/I35HDvvzhuhpMrffZFE/qY1dbRnwsY62Hk1Tcpprn9aaSj3iFM90sSWGQFpqyLKaP7HlGIGwFK4cDX/B/TcDT+K34DBxOWsVHjKnH2N4dzpamLzqNZ3zOXkmiyCzuDKpPwkjJN7FcRoMSSA= Received: by 10.90.71.3 with SMTP id t3mr62991aga.1175134974563; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.89.12 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:22:54 -0400 From: "Jinhua Guo" To: manet@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cd3fc8e909678b38737fc606dec187f0 Subject: [manet] CFP: IEEE MHWMN'07 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0004208780==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============0004208780== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11513_18992283.1175134974370" ------=_Part_11513_18992283.1175134974370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline We apologize if you receive multiple copies of this message. --- STARTS--- ***** First Call for Papers ***** --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Third IEEE International Workshop on Heterogeneous Multi-Hop Wireless and Mobile Networks 2007 (IEEE MHWMN'07) Website: http://www.cis.uoguelph.ca/~denko/mhwmn07.html Held with The Fourth IEEE International Conference on Mobile Ad-hoc and Sensor Systems - MASS 2007 (http://cnd.iit.cnr.it/mass2007/) , Pisa, Italy, 8 - 11 October 2007 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- AIM and SCOPE ------------- The traditional centralized wireless and mobile networks are based on single-hop architecture and rely on the existing fixed infrastructure such as base stations or access points. The proliferation and deployment of radio access networks such as Wireless WANs, Wireless LANs, and Wireless PANs with distinguishing characteristics of data rate, coverage range, power, mobility, and prices will clearly lead to a need for seamless and ubiquitous access across these various networks. Such an integrated heterogeneous environment enables a user to access a particular network depending upon the application needs and the types of radio access networks (RANs) available (e.g., cellular network, ad hoc, WLAN, WPAN etc). The heterogeneous multi-hop wireless and mobile networks, on the other hand, provide unlimited mobility and greater flexibility but introduce a number of challenges due to dynamic network topology. The design of efficient and scalable protocols for existing multi-hop wireless and mobile networks such as wireless and mobile ad hoc networks continue to pose challenges at all the layers of networking stack. Therefore, it is necessary to investigate a global heterogeneous architecture and services that together provide seamless integration of single-hop networks (e.g., cellular, WLAN, WWAN) and multi-hop mobile ad hoc networks. The aim of this workshop is to bring together practitioners and researchers from both academia and industry in order to have a forum for discussion and technical presentations on the latest research and future research directions in heterogeneous multi-hop wireless and mobile networks. We are seeking original and previously unpublished research papers addressing theoretical and application issues in heterogeneous multi-hop wireless mobile networks. TOPICS ------ Topics of interest include, but are not limited to, the following areas: Multi-hop architectures and protocols for resource management Quality of services (QoS) delivery in MHWMN Seamless Mobility, Vertical Handoff Robust and scalable routing protocols for MHWMN MAC protocols for MHWMN Self-configuration and synchronization for MHWMN Security issues in MHWMN Topology control and management for MHWMN Mobility models and location management in MHWMN Wireless Mesh networks Cross-layer design and interactions for MHWMN Modeling and performance evaluation for MHWMN Algorithms for localization and signal processing in MHWMN Implementation testbeds for MHWMN Operating systems and middleware for MHWMN SUBMISSIONS ---------- See (http://www.cis.uoguelph.ca/~denko/mhwmn07.html) IMPORTANT DATES: --------------- Submission deadline: May 15, 2007 Author Notification: July 16, 2007 Camera Ready papers: August 10, 2007 Workshop date: October 8, 2007 Organizing Committee ------------------- General Co-Chair Anup Kumar Computer Engineering and Computer Science Dept. University of Louisville, USA Email: ak@louisville.edu Program Co-Chairs Qing-An Zeng Department of Computer Science, University of Cincinnati, USA Email: qzeng@ececs.uc.edu Mieso Denko Dept. of Computing and Info. Science University of Guelph, Ontario, Canada Email: denko@cis.uoguelph.ca Publicity Chair Jinhua Guo Computer and Info. Science Dept. The Univer sity of Michigan-Deaborn, USA Email: jinhua@umich.edu Contacts For any enquiries related to the workshop please contact the program Co-Chairs at the addresses given above. PROGRAM COMMITTEE: See (http://www.cis.uoguelph.ca/~denko/mhwmn07.html) --- ENDS --- ------=_Part_11513_18992283.1175134974370 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline We apologize if you receive multiple copies of this message.


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***** First Call for Papers *****

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 Third IEEE International Workshop on Heterogeneous Multi-Hop Wireless
 and Mobile Networks 2007 (IEEE MHWMN'07)

 Website: http://www.cis.uoguelph.ca/~denko/mhwmn07.html

  Held with The Fourth IEEE International Conference on Mobile Ad-hoc and
  Sensor Systems - MASS 2007 (http://cnd.iit.cnr.it/mass2007/) , Pisa,
  Italy, 8 - 11 October 2007
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AIM and SCOPE
-------------

The traditional centralized wireless and mobile networks
are based on single-hop architecture and rely on the existing fixed
infrastructure such as base stations or access points. The proliferation
and deployment of radio access networks such as Wireless WANs, Wireless
LANs, and Wireless PANs with distinguishing characteristics of data rate,
coverage range, power, mobility, and prices will clearly lead to a need
for seamless and ubiquitous access across these various networks. Such an
integrated heterogeneous environment enables a user to access a particular
network depending upon the application needs and the types of radio access
networks (RANs) available (e.g., cellular network, ad hoc, WLAN, WPAN
etc). The heterogeneous multi-hop wireless and mobile networks, on the
other hand, provide unlimited mobility and greater flexibility but
introduce a number of challenges due to dynamic network topology. The
design of efficient and scalable protocols for existing multi-hop wireless
and mobile networks such as wireless and mobile ad hoc networks continue
to pose challenges at all the layers of networking stack. Therefore, it is
necessary to investigate a global heterogeneous architecture and services
that together provide seamless integration of single-hop networks ( e.g.,
cellular, WLAN, WWAN) and multi-hop mobile ad hoc networks.

The aim of this workshop is to bring together practitioners and
researchers from both academia and industry in order to have a forum for
discussion and technical presentations on the latest research and future
research directions in heterogeneous multi-hop wireless and mobile
networks. We are seeking original and previously unpublished research
papers addressing theoretical and application issues in heterogeneous
multi-hop wireless mobile networks.

TOPICS
------

Topics of interest include, but are not limited to, the following areas:

Multi-hop architectures and protocols for resource management
Quality of services (QoS) delivery in MHWMN
Seamless Mobility, Vertical Handoff
Robust and scalable routing protocols for MHWMN
MAC protocols for MHWMN
Self-configuration and synchronization for MHWMN
Security issues in MHWMN
Topology control and management for MHWMN
Mobility models and location management in MHWMN
Wireless Mesh networks
Cross-layer design and interactions for MHWMN
Modeling and performance evaluation for MHWMN
Algorithms for localization and signal processing in MHWMN
Implementation testbeds for MHWMN
Operating systems and middleware for MHWMN


SUBMISSIONS
----------
See (http://www.cis.uoguelph.ca/~denko/mhwmn07.html)


IMPORTANT DATES:
---------------

Submission deadline:      May 15, 2007
Author Notification:      July 16, 2007
Camera Ready papers:      August 10, 2007
Workshop date:            October 8, 2007


Organizing Committee
-------------------

General Co-Chair

Anup Kumar
Computer Engineering and Computer Science Dept.
University of Louisville, USA
Email: ak@louisville.edu

Program Co-Chairs

Qing-An Zeng
Department of Computer Science,
University of Cincinnati, USA
Email: qzeng@ececs.uc.edu

Mieso Denko
Dept. of Computing and Info. Science
University of Guelph, Ontario, Canada
Email: denko@cis.uoguelph.ca

Publicity Chair

Jinhua Guo
Computer and Info. Science Dept.
The Univer sity of Michigan-Deaborn, USA
Email: jinhua@umich.edu

Contacts

For any enquiries related to the workshop please contact the
program Co-Chairs at the addresses given above.



PROGRAM COMMITTEE:

See (http://www.cis.uoguelph.ca/~denko/mhwmn07.html )

---  ENDS ---


------=_Part_11513_18992283.1175134974370-- --===============0004208780== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============0004208780==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 29 06:37:02 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWrx9-0000CY-06; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 06:33:59 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWrx6-0000CT-CX for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 06:33:56 -0400 Received: from outbound.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.171]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWrx2-000215-43 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 06:33:56 -0400 Received: from did75-10-82-236-230-133.fbx.proxad.net ([82.236.230.133] helo=[192.168.147.201]) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HWrx1-000A4i-3D for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 06:33:51 -0400 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 82.236.230.133 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: voop Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: manet From: Thomas Heide Clausen Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:33:44 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cab78e1e39c4b328567edb48482b6a69 Subject: [manet] New WG I-D: TimeTLV X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Folks, As we discussed on the MANET wg meeting in Prague, we'd like to move draft-clausen-manet-timetlv-00.txt to a WG document, intended for publication with informational status. To recapitulate, the I-D specifies a way by which one may represent time, specifically such that a single time value may be represented through a single octet, and that different time values may be extracted as a function of the number of hops from the originator -- thereby allowing fish-eye and fuzzy-sighted mechanisms. Furthermore, the I-D defines two general TLV types, VALIDITY_TIME and INTERVAL_TIME. What is written in this I-D reflects the different needs of NHDP, DYMO and OLSRv2 and provides (i) common TLV type allocations and (ii) a common representation of time encoding. The primary objective in moving the timeTLV text into its own document is to allow the other documents (NHDP, SMF, OLSRv2, DYMO) to refer to one document, rather than to replicate text between them, and to specify general TLV types (and, thus, one TLV type assignment) rather than to have each of the other documents request individual types for the same entity out of the TLV typespace. The authors of draft-clausen-manet-timetlv-00.txt feel that this version is close to finished. Note that the content of draft-clausen-manet-timetlv-00.txt are generalised from RFC3626 (the time encoding) and the time TLV formats as presented in draft-ietf-manet-nhdp and draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2. Indeed, the exact text in draft-clausen-manet-timetlv-00.txt is currently replicated in both draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-02 and in draft- ietf-manet-olsrv2-03. If you've read either of these two I-Ds, you've thus also read what is in draft-clausen-manet-timetlv-00.txt. -- Thomas Clausen T.Clausen@Computer.org http://www.ThomasClausen.org http://www.lix.polytechnique.fr/hipercom/ _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 29 08:36:53 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWtqL-0006Qu-QR; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 08:35:05 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWtqJ-0006Qo-TQ for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 08:35:03 -0400 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.228]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWtqI-0003IK-Np for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 08:35:03 -0400 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h31so167401wxd for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 05:35:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=upGurQOpxK7kGJv/3nqHq4ziCdT1Em0sfQC5KpV72QSKbHnSscCDUfsVPMvrmITNQBcH6q5ruTFN3gsSrBGTir/hAuTnnK5c9SsBdFeF0/CorrcmuBotzzzTkAbxWSb36ExNKxd/0qv33vRUdZnoN0CVAZke7OYh0FdNuhPvj0k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=qT/S34SOhGmZNO1qFGDgaUCt2kJojhLmGYDmFz7ekEHJ/md1ZFoocWmztUJPoA2ZqY0HKz+FimS/CXlzli9waDlkqVQ56pGxNzt9B2/gIxBhSM2Lu5MeAbNSKypOuQLuNHnxNjhWbWp2sY0CtH8Mjehv+mfD/6/jhJWlvkbjTw4= Received: by 10.90.93.6 with SMTP id q6mr346489agb.1175171702381; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 05:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.74.16 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 05:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:35:02 +0200 From: "Romain Thouvenin" To: manet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08e48e05374109708c00c6208b534009 Subject: [manet] DYMO : RERR processing X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hello, Section 5.5.4 of the DYMO draft specifies that a broken flag must be assigned to a route if one of the seqnum is unknown or if we have a better seqnum (route.seqnum >= unreachablenode.seqnum). Shouldn't that be the contrary ? Romain _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 29 10:13:12 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWvLw-0002fm-Ba; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:11:48 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWvLu-0002Rm-7V; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:11:46 -0400 Received: from s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil ([132.250.83.3]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWvLs-0002Tb-Sv; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:11:46 -0400 Received: from smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil [132.250.86.3]) by s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.8) with SMTP id l2TEBSob005782; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:11:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from SEXTANT [132.250.92.22]) by smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (SMSSMTP 4.1.12.43) with SMTP id M2007032910112710711 ; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:11:27 -0400 From: "Joe Macker" To: "'SATOH, Hiroki \(HitachiSDL\)'" , "'manet'" , References: <019c01c76d85$0e6904f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT><4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> <06E6CE31-1A9A-4DA8-81EE-6ACFC9951664@hitachi.com> Subject: RE: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:11:25 -0400 Message-ID: <002101c7720c$22f5da20$165cfa84@SEXTANT> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <06E6CE31-1A9A-4DA8-81EE-6ACFC9951664@hitachi.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acdxon0NonFyQ4quRh6jLhqr195XywAaAjlg X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a1852b4f554b02e7e4548cc7928acc1f Cc: X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org I would agree with Hiroki. Especially since we have had these designs on the table for a long time now. We discussed at previous meetings that if special adaptations were needed for 6LOWPAN, sensor nets, etc that those could be debated and potential adapted specific to those applications. I would also add that fewer messages is often more important than smaller messages. If you think about the penalty of accessing a shared channel,etc. Of course, this depends upon the lower layer. -Joe >-----Original Message----- >From: SATOH, Hiroki (HitachiSDL) [mailto:hiroki.satoh.yj@hitachi.com] >Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:24 PM >To: manet; manet-dt@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request > >I agree with the importance of reducing message size >especially for sensor network. And it could be applicable if >we change packet format with smart way. >But from industrial point of view, I also worry about DELAY >for the standardization. Almost all companies could not follow >frequent draft update, because of a lot of cost. And MANET WG >already advertised PacketBB almost Last Call for RFC in 67th >and 68th IETF. > >So I urge that first of all we move packetBB to RFC. After >standardization, we start to discuss how improve packet format >and update RFC in need. >In my opinion packet format applicability depends on the >service or the application in real world. It may difficult to >cover every situation by only one document. Because the new >service or the new situation become available by technological >invention day by day. I think the merit of Last Call much >bigger than that of delayed standardization. The improvement >update for real application from now on will be done after >standardization, I think. > >Again I strongly recommend accelerate EVERY standardization process. >Because I hope the MANET technique will be available as soon >as possible in real world from industrial standpoint, now only >use for some experimental work or limited field. > >Regards, >Hiroki > >--------------------------------------------- >SATOH, Hiroki >Hitachi, Ltd., Systems Development Laboratory E-mail : >hiroki.satoh.yj@hitachi.com >--------------------------------------------- > > > >On 2007/03/26, at 23:43, Charles E. Perkins wrote: > >> >> Hello folks, >> >> Once again, I urge that we place as much consideration as >possible on >> reducing message size to the maximum extent. >> I have myself been reluctant to spend a lot of time on reviewing the >> document because I worry that my comments will not be taken as >> constructive. Ian has expressed his concern that I am too late to >> make any suggestions for substantial change. >> >> I believe that the TLV structure is very expensive in terms of byte >> overhead. I also think that parseability is far less important than >> message size, although both are important. >> I would rate the relative importance as 90% vs. 10% for the >> parseability/size tradeoff. >> >> Similar considerations may apply to NHDP. >> >> It is pretty clear that the trend has been to be more "IETF"-like in >> the message design, at the expense of message size. In my opinion, >> this is inappropriate if we want our work to be applicable >for sensors >> or 6lowpan or other low-power devices. When one byte of airtime >> consumes as much energy as millions of processor cycles, it makes >> sense to favor additional processing to reduce message size. IETF >> protocols typically favor human readability of the protocol document >> at the expense of message size, and for many applications this is >> wholly inappropriate. >> >> I would be very interested to hear opinions from other >members of the >> working group about this. >> >> Regards, >> Charlie P. >> >> >> >> >> ext Joe Macker wrote: >>> At the manet WG meeting we discussed a workplan prior to moving SMF >>> to Last Call for Experimental consideration. While some readability >>> improvements may be done the authors request that the WG provide >>> comments as soon as possible. Positive and general comments are >>> encouraged along with others. >>> If you an implementor and find something confusing we are >interested >>> in hearing from you. >>> Please see the recent briefings on line from the last meeting to >>> understand the recent changes and upcoming plan. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Joe >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Manet-dt mailing list >>> Manet-dt@ietf.org >>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Manet-dt mailing list >> Manet-dt@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt >> > > >_______________________________________________ >manet mailing list >manet@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 29 13:09:55 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWy5n-0002JM-Cv; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:07:19 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWy4z-0001p7-Pj; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:06:29 -0400 Received: from smtp.nokia.com ([131.228.20.171] helo=mgw-ext12.nokia.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HWy1V-0000Q1-5J; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:02:54 -0400 Received: from esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh108.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.145]) by mgw-ext12.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.5/Switch-3.2.5) with ESMTP id l2TH2g77016860; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:02:44 +0300 Received: from daebh102.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.241.35.112]) by esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:02:41 +0300 Received: from daebe101.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.241.35.113]) by daebh102.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:02:39 -0500 Received: from [10.162.74.94] ([10.162.74.94]) by daebe101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:02:38 -0500 Message-ID: <460BF127.5030608@nokia.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:02:31 -0700 From: "Charles E. Perkins" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ext Joe Macker Subject: Re: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request References: <019c01c76d85$0e6904f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT><4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> <06E6CE31-1A9A-4DA8-81EE-6ACFC9951664@hitachi.com> <002101c7720c$22f5da20$165cfa84@SEXTANT> In-Reply-To: <002101c7720c$22f5da20$165cfa84@SEXTANT> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Mar 2007 17:02:38.0894 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E6074E0:01C77224] X-eXpurgate-Category: 1/0 X-eXpurgate-ID: 149371::070329200247-367C0BB0-3E4AB5E6/0-0/0-0 X-Nokia-AV: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0e9ebc0cbd700a87c0637ad0e2c91610 Cc: 'manet' , manet-dt@ietf.org, "'SATOH, Hiroki \(HitachiSDL\)'" X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hello Joe, O.K. Now I _am_ confused, and ask for advice. I've been reluctant for quite some months to invest the number of hours to review these documents, because I figured that nobody would care what I said about them very much. During the last meeting, Thomas and others convinced me to review them (i.e, that they _would_ care what I said). So do I spend the time, or not? It will take me at least another 6-7 hours of wall time to go through the documents and identify editorial revisions, some more hours to compare against alternative packet formats, and at least that much time to carry on the e-mail discussions. I'm willing to do it, but not if it is a farce and waste of time. Please let me know! Regards, Charlie P. ext Joe Macker wrote: > I would agree with Hiroki. Especially since we have had these designs on the > table for a long time now. We discussed at previous meetings that if > special adaptations were needed for 6LOWPAN, sensor nets, etc that those > could be debated and potential adapted specific to those applications. > > I would also add that fewer messages is often more important than smaller > messages. If you think about the penalty of accessing a shared channel,etc. > Of course, this depends upon the lower layer. > > -Joe > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: SATOH, Hiroki (HitachiSDL) [mailto:hiroki.satoh.yj@hitachi.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:24 PM >> To: manet; manet-dt@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request >> >> I agree with the importance of reducing message size >> especially for sensor network. And it could be applicable if >> we change packet format with smart way. >> But from industrial point of view, I also worry about DELAY >> for the standardization. Almost all companies could not follow >> frequent draft update, because of a lot of cost. And MANET WG >> already advertised PacketBB almost Last Call for RFC in 67th >> and 68th IETF. >> >> So I urge that first of all we move packetBB to RFC. After >> standardization, we start to discuss how improve packet format >> and update RFC in need. >> In my opinion packet format applicability depends on the >> service or the application in real world. It may difficult to >> cover every situation by only one document. Because the new >> service or the new situation become available by technological >> invention day by day. I think the merit of Last Call much >> bigger than that of delayed standardization. The improvement >> update for real application from now on will be done after >> standardization, I think. >> >> Again I strongly recommend accelerate EVERY standardization process. >> Because I hope the MANET technique will be available as soon >> as possible in real world from industrial standpoint, now only >> use for some experimental work or limited field. >> >> Regards, >> Hiroki >> >> --------------------------------------------- >> SATOH, Hiroki >> Hitachi, Ltd., Systems Development Laboratory E-mail : >> hiroki.satoh.yj@hitachi.com >> --------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> On 2007/03/26, at 23:43, Charles E. Perkins wrote: >> >> >>> Hello folks, >>> >>> Once again, I urge that we place as much consideration as >>> >> possible on >> >>> reducing message size to the maximum extent. >>> I have myself been reluctant to spend a lot of time on reviewing the >>> document because I worry that my comments will not be taken as >>> constructive. Ian has expressed his concern that I am too late to >>> make any suggestions for substantial change. >>> >>> I believe that the TLV structure is very expensive in terms of byte >>> overhead. I also think that parseability is far less important than >>> message size, although both are important. >>> I would rate the relative importance as 90% vs. 10% for the >>> parseability/size tradeoff. >>> >>> Similar considerations may apply to NHDP. >>> >>> It is pretty clear that the trend has been to be more "IETF"-like in >>> the message design, at the expense of message size. In my opinion, >>> this is inappropriate if we want our work to be applicable >>> >> for sensors >> >>> or 6lowpan or other low-power devices. When one byte of airtime >>> consumes as much energy as millions of processor cycles, it makes >>> sense to favor additional processing to reduce message size. IETF >>> protocols typically favor human readability of the protocol document >>> at the expense of message size, and for many applications this is >>> wholly inappropriate. >>> >>> I would be very interested to hear opinions from other >>> >> members of the >> >>> working group about this. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Charlie P. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ext Joe Macker wrote: >>> >>>> At the manet WG meeting we discussed a workplan prior to moving SMF >>>> to Last Call for Experimental consideration. While some readability >>>> improvements may be done the authors request that the WG provide >>>> comments as soon as possible. Positive and general comments are >>>> encouraged along with others. >>>> If you an implementor and find something confusing we are >>>> >> interested >> >>>> in hearing from you. >>>> Please see the recent briefings on line from the last meeting to >>>> understand the recent changes and upcoming plan. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Joe >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Manet-dt mailing list >>>> Manet-dt@ietf.org >>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Manet-dt mailing list >>> Manet-dt@ietf.org >>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> manet mailing list >> manet@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Manet-dt mailing list > Manet-dt@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 29 18:03:44 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HX2fg-0002SI-Lf; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:00:40 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HX2fe-0002RH-Oz; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:00:38 -0400 Received: from s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil ([132.250.83.3]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HX2bx-0006LR-CE; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:56:50 -0400 Received: from smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil [132.250.86.3]) by s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.8) with SMTP id l2TLuSd5002445; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:56:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from SEXTANT [132.250.92.22]) by smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (SMSSMTP 4.1.12.43) with SMTP id M2007032917562813609 ; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:56:28 -0400 From: "Joe Macker" To: "'Charles E. Perkins'" References: <019c01c76d85$0e6904f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT><4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> <06E6CE31-1A9A-4DA8-81EE-6ACFC9951664@hitachi.com> <002101c7720c$22f5da20$165cfa84@SEXTANT> <460BF127.5030608@nokia.com> Subject: RE: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:56:25 -0400 Message-ID: <005f01c7724d$18e6b6d0$165cfa84@SEXTANT> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <460BF127.5030608@nokia.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcdyJBnDolRwhnh4TmqlEesamlsI+AAKCCWA X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 16c9da4896bf5539ae3547c6c25f06a0 Cc: 'manet' , manet-dt@ietf.org, "'SATOH, Hiroki \(HitachiSDL\)'" X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org I think your review is useful. I am just more satisfied with packetbb than perhaps you are and I felt the group has put a lot of time into it in open discussion for some time now. The authors can speak for themselves. -joe >-----Original Message----- >From: Charles E. Perkins [mailto:charles.perkins@nokia.com] >Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 1:03 PM >To: ext Joe Macker >Cc: 'SATOH, Hiroki (HitachiSDL)'; 'manet'; manet-dt@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request > > >Hello Joe, > >O.K. Now I _am_ confused, and ask for advice. > >I've been reluctant for quite some months to invest the number >of hours to review these documents, because I figured that >nobody would care what I said about them very much. During >the last meeting, Thomas and others convinced me to review >them (i.e, that they _would_ care what I said). > >So do I spend the time, or not? It will take me at least >another 6-7 hours of wall time to go through the documents and >identify editorial revisions, some more hours to compare >against alternative packet formats, and at least that much >time to carry on the e-mail discussions. I'm willing to do >it, but not if it is a farce and waste of time. > >Please let me know! > >Regards, >Charlie P. > > >ext Joe Macker wrote: >> I would agree with Hiroki. Especially since we have had >these designs >> on the table for a long time now. We discussed at previous meetings >> that if special adaptations were needed for 6LOWPAN, sensor >nets, etc >> that those could be debated and potential adapted specific >to those applications. >> >> I would also add that fewer messages is often more important than >> smaller messages. If you think about the penalty of >accessing a shared channel,etc. >> Of course, this depends upon the lower layer. >> >> -Joe >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: SATOH, Hiroki (HitachiSDL) >[mailto:hiroki.satoh.yj@hitachi.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:24 PM >>> To: manet; manet-dt@ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request >>> >>> I agree with the importance of reducing message size especially for >>> sensor network. And it could be applicable if we change >packet format >>> with smart way. >>> But from industrial point of view, I also worry about >DELAY for the >>> standardization. Almost all companies could not follow >frequent draft >>> update, because of a lot of cost. And MANET WG already advertised >>> PacketBB almost Last Call for RFC in 67th and 68th IETF. >>> >>> So I urge that first of all we move packetBB to RFC. After >>> standardization, we start to discuss how improve packet format and >>> update RFC in need. >>> In my opinion packet format applicability depends on the service or >>> the application in real world. It may difficult to cover every >>> situation by only one document. Because the new service or the new >>> situation become available by technological invention day by day. I >>> think the merit of Last Call much bigger than that of delayed >>> standardization. The improvement update for real >application from now >>> on will be done after standardization, I think. >>> >>> Again I strongly recommend accelerate EVERY standardization >process. >>> Because I hope the MANET technique will be available as soon as >>> possible in real world from industrial standpoint, now only use for >>> some experimental work or limited field. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Hiroki >>> >>> --------------------------------------------- >>> SATOH, Hiroki >>> Hitachi, Ltd., Systems Development Laboratory E-mail : >>> hiroki.satoh.yj@hitachi.com >>> --------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2007/03/26, at 23:43, Charles E. Perkins wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hello folks, >>>> >>>> Once again, I urge that we place as much consideration as >>>> >>> possible on >>> >>>> reducing message size to the maximum extent. >>>> I have myself been reluctant to spend a lot of time on >reviewing the >>>> document because I worry that my comments will not be taken as >>>> constructive. Ian has expressed his concern that I am too late to >>>> make any suggestions for substantial change. >>>> >>>> I believe that the TLV structure is very expensive in >terms of byte >>>> overhead. I also think that parseability is far less >important than >>>> message size, although both are important. >>>> I would rate the relative importance as 90% vs. 10% for the >>>> parseability/size tradeoff. >>>> >>>> Similar considerations may apply to NHDP. >>>> >>>> It is pretty clear that the trend has been to be more >"IETF"-like in >>>> the message design, at the expense of message size. In my >opinion, >>>> this is inappropriate if we want our work to be applicable >>>> >>> for sensors >>> >>>> or 6lowpan or other low-power devices. When one byte of airtime >>>> consumes as much energy as millions of processor cycles, it makes >>>> sense to favor additional processing to reduce message size. IETF >>>> protocols typically favor human readability of the >protocol document >>>> at the expense of message size, and for many applications this is >>>> wholly inappropriate. >>>> >>>> I would be very interested to hear opinions from other >>>> >>> members of the >>> >>>> working group about this. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Charlie P. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ext Joe Macker wrote: >>>> >>>>> At the manet WG meeting we discussed a workplan prior to >moving SMF >>>>> to Last Call for Experimental consideration. While some >readability >>>>> improvements may be done the authors request that the WG provide >>>>> comments as soon as possible. Positive and general comments are >>>>> encouraged along with others. >>>>> If you an implementor and find something confusing we are >>>>> >>> interested >>> >>>>> in hearing from you. >>>>> Please see the recent briefings on line from the last meeting to >>>>> understand the recent changes and upcoming plan. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Joe >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Manet-dt mailing list >>>>> Manet-dt@ietf.org >>>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Manet-dt mailing list >>>> Manet-dt@ietf.org >>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> manet mailing list >>> manet@ietf.org >>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet >>> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Manet-dt mailing list >> Manet-dt@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt >> > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 29 21:24:11 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HX5ou-0000YP-RI; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 21:22:24 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HX5os-0000VL-Pw; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 21:22:23 -0400 Received: from mail9.hitachi.co.jp ([133.145.228.44]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HX5oq-000157-R2; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 21:22:22 -0400 Received: from mlsv7.hitachi.co.jp (unknown [133.144.234.166]) by mail9.hitachi.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9252037C88; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:22:19 +0900 (JST) Received: from mfilter-s2.hitachi.co.jp by mlsv7.hitachi.co.jp (8.12.11/8.12.11) id l2U1MNs5011864; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:22:23 +0900 Received: from vshuts5.hitachi.co.jp (unverified) by mfilter-s2.hitachi.co.jp (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.17) with SMTP id ; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:22:19 +0900 Received: from hsdlgw92.sdl.hitachi.co.jp ([133.144.7.20]) by vshuts5.hitachi.co.jp with SMTP id M2007033010221800389 ; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:22:18 +0900 Received: from vgate2.sdl.hitachi.co.jp by hsdlgw92.sdl.hitachi.co.jp (8.13.1/3.7W06092911) id l2U1MIRW023984; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:22:18 +0900 Received: from sdl99w.sdl.hitachi.co.jp ([133.144.14.250]) by vgate2.sdl.hitachi.co.jp (SAVSMTP 3.1.1.32) with SMTP id M2007033010221712821 ; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:22:17 +0900 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (IDENT:U2FsdGVkX1+3X9AUC7oSKCALiI1KVAGeS5zRt9YG4ZI@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sdl99w.sdl.hitachi.co.jp (8.13.1/3.7W04031011) with ESMTP id l2U1M37x023095; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:22:03 +0900 In-Reply-To: <460BF127.5030608@nokia.com> References: <019c01c76d85$0e6904f0$165cfa84@SEXTANT><4607DBF4.8060608@nokia.com> <06E6CE31-1A9A-4DA8-81EE-6ACFC9951664@hitachi.com> <002101c7720c$22f5da20$165cfa84@SEXTANT> <460BF127.5030608@nokia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <39A58386-1B21-4068-B9A4-9A531A470427@hitachi.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "SATOH, Hiroki (HitachiSDL)" Subject: Re: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:22:00 +0900 To: "Charles E. Perkins" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a8041eca2a724d631b098c15e9048ce9 Cc: 'manet' , manet-dt@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hello Charles, I also think your review is useful for future update. It is worth for discussing. I am just afraid of delay for standardization from my experience so far. Regards, Hiroki --------------------------------------------- SATOH, Hiroki Hitachi, Ltd., Systems Development Laboratory E-mail : hiroki.satoh.yj@hitachi.com --------------------------------------------- On 2007/03/30, at 2:02, Charles E. Perkins wrote: > > Hello Joe, > > O.K. Now I _am_ confused, and ask for advice. > > I've been reluctant for quite some months to invest the > number of hours to review these documents, because > I figured that nobody would care what I said about > them very much. During the last meeting, Thomas and > others convinced me to review them (i.e, that they > _would_ care what I said). > > So do I spend the time, or not? It will take me at least > another 6-7 hours of wall time to go through the > documents and identify editorial revisions, some more > hours to compare against alternative packet formats, > and at least that much time to carry on the e-mail > discussions. I'm willing to do it, but not if it is a farce > and waste of time. > > Please let me know! > > Regards, > Charlie P. > > > ext Joe Macker wrote: >> I would agree with Hiroki. Especially since we have had these >> designs on the >> table for a long time now. We discussed at previous meetings that if >> special adaptations were needed for 6LOWPAN, sensor nets, etc that >> those >> could be debated and potential adapted specific to those >> applications. >> >> I would also add that fewer messages is often more important than >> smaller >> messages. If you think about the penalty of accessing a shared >> channel,etc. >> Of course, this depends upon the lower layer. >> >> -Joe >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: SATOH, Hiroki (HitachiSDL) >>> [mailto:hiroki.satoh.yj@hitachi.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, >>> 2007 9:24 PM >>> To: manet; manet-dt@ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request >>> >>> I agree with the importance of reducing message size especially >>> for sensor network. And it could be applicable if we change >>> packet format with smart way. >>> But from industrial point of view, I also worry about DELAY for >>> the standardization. Almost all companies could not follow >>> frequent draft update, because of a lot of cost. And MANET WG >>> already advertised PacketBB almost Last Call for RFC in 67th and >>> 68th IETF. >>> >>> So I urge that first of all we move packetBB to RFC. After >>> standardization, we start to discuss how improve packet format >>> and update RFC in need. >>> In my opinion packet format applicability depends on the service >>> or the application in real world. It may difficult to cover every >>> situation by only one document. Because the new service or the >>> new situation become available by technological invention day by >>> day. I think the merit of Last Call much bigger than that of >>> delayed standardization. The improvement update for real >>> application from now on will be done after standardization, I think. >>> >>> Again I strongly recommend accelerate EVERY standardization >>> process. Because I hope the MANET technique will be available as >>> soon as possible in real world from industrial standpoint, now >>> only use for some experimental work or limited field. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Hiroki >>> >>> --------------------------------------------- >>> SATOH, Hiroki >>> Hitachi, Ltd., Systems Development Laboratory E-mail : >>> hiroki.satoh.yj@hitachi.com >>> --------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2007/03/26, at 23:43, Charles E. Perkins wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hello folks, >>>> >>>> Once again, I urge that we place as much consideration as >>> possible on >>>> reducing message size to the maximum extent. >>>> I have myself been reluctant to spend a lot of time on reviewing >>>> the document because I worry that my comments will not be taken >>>> as constructive. Ian has expressed his concern that I am too >>>> late to make any suggestions for substantial change. >>>> >>>> I believe that the TLV structure is very expensive in terms of >>>> byte overhead. I also think that parseability is far less >>>> important than message size, although both are important. >>>> I would rate the relative importance as 90% vs. 10% for the >>>> parseability/size tradeoff. >>>> >>>> Similar considerations may apply to NHDP. >>>> >>>> It is pretty clear that the trend has been to be more "IETF"- >>>> like in the message design, at the expense of message size. In >>>> my opinion, this is inappropriate if we want our work to be >>>> applicable >>> for sensors >>>> or 6lowpan or other low-power devices. When one byte of airtime >>>> consumes as much energy as millions of processor cycles, it >>>> makes sense to favor additional processing to reduce message >>>> size. IETF protocols typically favor human readability of the >>>> protocol document at the expense of message size, and for many >>>> applications this is wholly inappropriate. >>>> >>>> I would be very interested to hear opinions from other >>> members of the >>>> working group about this. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Charlie P. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ext Joe Macker wrote: >>>> >>>>> At the manet WG meeting we discussed a workplan prior to moving >>>>> SMF to Last Call for Experimental consideration. While some >>>>> readability improvements may be done the authors request that >>>>> the WG provide comments as soon as possible. Positive and >>>>> general comments are encouraged along with others. >>>>> If you an implementor and find something confusing we are >>> interested >>>>> in hearing from you. >>>>> Please see the recent briefings on line from the last meeting >>>>> to understand the recent changes and upcoming plan. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Joe >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Manet-dt mailing list >>>>> Manet-dt@ietf.org >>>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Manet-dt mailing list >>>> Manet-dt@ietf.org >>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> manet mailing list >>> manet@ietf.org >>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet >>> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Manet-dt mailing list >> Manet-dt@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt >> > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 29 22:58:59 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HX7In-000674-EE; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:57:21 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HX7Il-00066w-Rk for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:57:19 -0400 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.225]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HX7Ik-0007tu-6Y for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:57:19 -0400 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h31so390073wxd for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:57:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=eSZE+4DwWxjNdJ6fIpNiEtgDB1jj3M1gB2sTfb5qOovcfSMzwcCTaIxovxMyLIBr8TnYkEE4mmRL7yNgWwGWxr1YD439G9Df7GDtbyIuIn/EC1Q0wV8X8Txgte3JIY7Q0nIt0ANqhKiBo5gZQ/0WxLcGXah58jiy2MLG7hACt/8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=p2HjdIYw2jHVXrQ/8lGXO8W/1m9kzTSbJ2RS+4+85Sum83B+SegmXCBBJrwusO/5boLXzDY3TqX6U2QKEpitmpM4huq0EpU18Ycs/ZTJRuOJhw+krpbHhFVF6h6uR4qiSzoi1JkAQUc4mm4iW02UbovJFUu1YpeiuQ9FLuqvTo8= Received: by 10.90.120.6 with SMTP id s6mr1441499agc.1175223437954; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.89.12 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:57:17 -0400 From: "Jinhua Guo" To: manet@ietf.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7e439b86d3292ef5adf93b694a43a576 Cc: jinhua@umich.edu Subject: [manet] CFP: IEEE MHWMN'07 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1780874170==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============1780874170== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21152_25360658.1175223437830" ------=_Part_21152_25360658.1175223437830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline We apologize if you receive multiple copies of this message. --- STARTS--- ***** First Call for Papers ***** --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Third IEEE International Workshop on Heterogeneous Multi-Hop Wireless and Mobile Networks 2007 (IEEE MHWMN'07) Website: http://www.cis.uoguelph.ca/~denko/mhwmn07.html Held with The Fourth IEEE International Conference on Mobile Ad-hoc and Sensor Systems - MASS 2007 (http://cnd.iit.cnr.it/mass2007/) , Pisa, Italy, 8 - 11 October 2007 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- AIM and SCOPE ------------- The traditional centralized wireless and mobile networks are based on single-hop architecture and rely on the existing fixed infrastructure such as base stations or access points. The proliferation and deployment of radio access networks such as Wireless WANs, Wireless LANs, and Wireless PANs with distinguishing characteristics of data rate, coverage range, power, mobility, and prices will clearly lead to a need for seamless and ubiquitous access across these various networks. Such an integrated heterogeneous environment enables a user to access a particular network depending upon the application needs and the types of radio access networks (RANs) available (e.g., cellular network, ad hoc, WLAN, WPAN etc). The heterogeneous multi-hop wireless and mobile networks, on the other hand, provide unlimited mobility and greater flexibility but introduce a number of challenges due to dynamic network topology. The design of efficient and scalable protocols for existing multi-hop wireless and mobile networks such as wireless and mobile ad hoc networks continue to pose challenges at all the layers of networking stack. Therefore, it is necessary to investigate a global heterogeneous architecture and services that together provide seamless integration of single-hop networks ( e.g., cellular, WLAN, WWAN) and multi-hop mobile ad hoc networks. The aim of this workshop is to bring together practitioners and researchers from both academia and industry in order to have a forum for discussion and technical presentations on the latest research and future research directions in heterogeneous multi-hop wireless and mobile networks. We are seeking original and previously unpublished research papers addressing theoretical and application issues in heterogeneous multi-hop wireless mobile networks. TOPICS ------ Topics of interest include, but are not limited to, the following areas: Multi-hop architectures and protocols for resource management Quality of services (QoS) delivery in MHWMN Seamless Mobility, Vertical Handoff Robust and scalable routing protocols for MHWMN MAC protocols for MHWMN Self-configuration and synchronization for MHWMN Security issues in MHWMN Topology control and management for MHWMN Mobility models and location management in MHWMN Wireless Mesh networks Cross-layer design and interactions for MHWMN Modeling and performance evaluation for MHWMN Algorithms for localization and signal processing in MHWMN Implementation testbeds for MHWMN Operating systems and middleware for MHWMN SUBMISSIONS ---------- See (http://www.cis.uoguelph.ca/~denko/mhwmn07.html) IMPORTANT DATES: --------------- Submission deadline: May 15, 2007 Author Notification: July 16, 2007 Camera Ready papers: August 10, 2007 Workshop date: October 8, 2007 Organizing Committee ------------------- General Co-Chair Anup Kumar Computer Engineering and Computer Science Dept. 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***** First Call for Papers *****

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 Third IEEE International Workshop on Heterogeneous Multi-Hop Wireless
 and Mobile Networks 2007 (IEEE MHWMN'07)

 Website: http://www.cis.uoguelph.ca/~denko/mhwmn07.html

  Held with The Fourth IEEE International Conference on Mobile Ad-hoc and
  Sensor Systems - MASS 2007 ( http://cnd.iit.cnr.it/mass2007/) , Pisa,
  Italy, 8 - 11 October 2007
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AIM and SCOPE
-------------

The traditional centralized wireless and mobile networks
are based on single-hop architecture and rely on the existing fixed
infrastructure such as base stations or access points. The proliferation
and deployment of radio access networks such as Wireless WANs, Wireless
LANs, and Wireless PANs with distinguishing characteristics of data rate,
coverage range, power, mobility, and prices will clearly lead to a need
for seamless and ubiquitous access across these various networks. Such an
integrated heterogeneous environment enables a user to access a particular
network depending upon the application needs and the types of radio access
networks (RANs) available (e.g., cellular network, ad hoc, WLAN, WPAN
etc). The heterogeneous multi-hop wireless and mobile networks, on the
other hand, provide unlimited mobility and greater flexibility but
introduce a number of challenges due to dynamic network topology. The
design of efficient and scalable protocols for existing multi-hop wireless
and mobile networks such as wireless and mobile ad hoc networks continue
to pose challenges at all the layers of networking stack. Therefore, it is
necessary to investigate a global heterogeneous architecture and services
that together provide seamless integration of single-hop networks ( e.g.,
cellular, WLAN, WWAN) and multi-hop mobile ad hoc networks.

The aim of this workshop is to bring together practitioners and
researchers from both academia and industry in order to have a forum for
discussion and technical presentations on the latest research and future
research directions in heterogeneous multi-hop wireless and mobile
networks. We are seeking original and previously unpublished research
papers addressing theoretical and application issues in heterogeneous
multi-hop wireless mobile networks.

TOPICS
------

Topics of interest include, but are not limited to, the following areas:

Multi-hop architectures and protocols for resource management
Quality of services (QoS) delivery in MHWMN
Seamless Mobility, Vertical Handoff
Robust and scalable routing protocols for MHWMN
MAC protocols for MHWMN
Self-configuration and synchronization for MHWMN
Security issues in MHWMN
Topology control and management for MHWMN
Mobility models and location management in MHWMN
Wireless Mesh networks
Cross-layer design and interactions for MHWMN
Modeling and performance evaluation for MHWMN
Algorithms for localization and signal processing in MHWMN
Implementation testbeds for MHWMN
Operating systems and middleware for MHWMN


SUBMISSIONS
----------
See ( http://www.cis.uoguelph.ca/~denko/mhwmn07.html)


IMPORTANT DATES:
---------------

Submission deadline:      May 15, 2007
Author Notification:      July 16, 2007
Camera Ready papers:      August 10, 2007
Workshop date:            October 8, 2007


Organizing Committee
-------------------

General Co-Chair

Anup Kumar
Computer Engineering and Computer Science Dept.
University of Louisville, USA
Email: ak@louisville.edu

Program Co-Chairs

Qing-An Zeng
Department of Computer Science,
University of Cincinnati, USA
Email: qzeng@ececs.uc.edu

Mieso Denko
Dept. of Computing and Info. Science
University of Guelph, Ontario, Canada
Email: denko@cis.uoguelph.ca

Publicity Chair

Jinhua Guo
Computer and Info. Science Dept.
The Univer sity of Michigan-Deaborn, USA
Email: jinhua@umich.edu

Contacts

For any enquiries related to the workshop please contact the
program Co-Chairs at the addresses given above.



PROGRAM COMMITTEE:

See ( http://www.cis.uoguelph.ca/~denko/mhwmn07.html )

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------=_Part_21152_25360658.1175223437830-- --===============1780874170== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============1780874170==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 30 05:18:54 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HXDD3-00031g-77; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 05:15:49 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HXDD2-000314-1j; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 05:15:48 -0400 Received: from smtp2.bae.co.uk ([20.133.0.12]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HXDD1-0002AH-6s; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 05:15:48 -0400 Received: from smtpc.greenlnk.net (smtpc.greenlnk.net [10.15.160.220]) by smtp2.bae.co.uk (Switch-3.1.10/Switch-3.1.10) with ESMTP id l2U9FkYj006230; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:15:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from glkas0002.GREENLNK.NET (glkas0002.greenlnk.net [10.15.184.52]) by smtpc.greenlnk.net (Switch-3.1.9/Switch-3.1.9) with ESMTP id l2U9FfPn025184; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:15:41 +0100 Received: from glkms0001.GREENLNK.NET ([10.15.184.1]) by glkas0002.GREENLNK.NET with InterScan Message Security Suite; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:15:53 +0100 Received: from glkms2122.GREENLNK.NET ([10.15.184.26]) by glkms0001.GREENLNK.NET with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:05:14 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:01:32 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request Thread-Index: AcdyJBnDolRwhnh4TmqlEesamlsI+AAKCCWAABZyCJA= From: "Dearlove, Christopher \(UK\)" To: "Joe Macker" , "Charles E. Perkins" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Mar 2007 09:05:14.0710 (UTC) FILETIME=[87869760:01C772AA] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 453b1bfcf0292bffe4cab90ba115f503 Cc: manet , manet-dt@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Well, Thomas may or may not be able to speak, as he has had email problems. My observations would be - We need to get something out, as all of the MANET work is based on this. A major restructuring, let alone a complete replacement, could only be contemplated if the current structure just didn't work, and that is not the case. - To reinforce that, I was just looking back at packetbb-00, over a year ago. (Of course it didn't spring into existence in that form, but prior art was author drafts, in OLSRv2 etc.) That had essentially all the features of packetbb-04. Of course there have been refinements - including the removal of fragmentation - but the time for putting down a marker that this wasn't what was wanted was then, or slightly later when DYMO (and Charles is an author of DYMO) adopted it. Now is not that time. - Editorial comment is always appropriate. Small changes can have their pros and cons weighted. But cons will include both that there are people who want things simpler, and that by this point in time any change automatically has a strike against it in terms of timescales. - A comparison of packetbb with alternatives would be interesting, and I'd be very happy to see one. But that does not extend to considering an alternative as a replacement (for OLSRv2 at least, and hence also for NHDP). - Both Joe and I have commented on mappings from a subset of packetbb to a more compressed format (especially I would say if reversible) as of interest. Unfortunately I can't commit to working on such an idea, best I can offer would be to read anyone else's work. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Macker [mailto:joseph.macker@nrl.navy.mil]=20 Sent: 29 March 2007 22:56 To: 'Charles E. Perkins' Cc: 'manet'; manet-dt@ietf.org Subject: RE: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request *** WARNING *** This mail has originated outside your organization, either from an external partner or the Global Internet.=20 Keep this in mind if you answer this message.=20 I think your review is useful. I am just more satisfied with packetbb than perhaps you are and I felt the group has put a lot of time into it in open discussion for some time now. The authors can speak for themselves. -joe >-----Original Message----- >From: Charles E. Perkins [mailto:charles.perkins@nokia.com]=20 >Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 1:03 PM >To: ext Joe Macker >Cc: 'SATOH, Hiroki (HitachiSDL)'; 'manet'; manet-dt@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request > > >Hello Joe, > >O.K. Now I _am_ confused, and ask for advice. > >I've been reluctant for quite some months to invest the number=20 >of hours to review these documents, because I figured that=20 >nobody would care what I said about them very much. During=20 >the last meeting, Thomas and others convinced me to review=20 >them (i.e, that they _would_ care what I said). > >So do I spend the time, or not? It will take me at least=20 >another 6-7 hours of wall time to go through the documents and=20 >identify editorial revisions, some more hours to compare=20 >against alternative packet formats, and at least that much=20 >time to carry on the e-mail discussions. I'm willing to do=20 >it, but not if it is a farce and waste of time. > >Please let me know! > >Regards, >Charlie P. > > >ext Joe Macker wrote: >> I would agree with Hiroki. Especially since we have had=20 >these designs=20 >> on the table for a long time now. We discussed at previous meetings=20 >> that if special adaptations were needed for 6LOWPAN, sensor=20 >nets, etc=20 >> that those could be debated and potential adapted specific=20 >to those applications. >> >> I would also add that fewer messages is often more important than=20 >> smaller messages. If you think about the penalty of=20 >accessing a shared channel,etc. >> Of course, this depends upon the lower layer. >> >> -Joe >> =20 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: SATOH, Hiroki (HitachiSDL)=20 >[mailto:hiroki.satoh.yj@hitachi.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:24 PM >>> To: manet; manet-dt@ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request >>> >>> I agree with the importance of reducing message size especially for=20 >>> sensor network. And it could be applicable if we change=20 >packet format=20 >>> with smart way. >>> But from industrial point of view, I also worry about=20 >DELAY for the=20 >>> standardization. Almost all companies could not follow=20 >frequent draft=20 >>> update, because of a lot of cost. And MANET WG already advertised=20 >>> PacketBB almost Last Call for RFC in 67th and 68th IETF. >>> >>> So I urge that first of all we move packetBB to RFC. After=20 >>> standardization, we start to discuss how improve packet format and=20 >>> update RFC in need. >>> In my opinion packet format applicability depends on the service or=20 >>> the application in real world. It may difficult to cover every=20 >>> situation by only one document. Because the new service or the new=20 >>> situation become available by technological invention day by day. I=20 >>> think the merit of Last Call much bigger than that of delayed=20 >>> standardization. The improvement update for real=20 >application from now=20 >>> on will be done after standardization, I think. >>> >>> Again I strongly recommend accelerate EVERY standardization=20 >process. =20 >>> Because I hope the MANET technique will be available as soon as=20 >>> possible in real world from industrial standpoint, now only use for=20 >>> some experimental work or limited field. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Hiroki >>> >>> --------------------------------------------- >>> SATOH, Hiroki >>> Hitachi, Ltd., Systems Development Laboratory E-mail :=20 >>> hiroki.satoh.yj@hitachi.com >>> --------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2007/03/26, at 23:43, Charles E. Perkins wrote: >>> >>> =20 >>>> Hello folks, >>>> >>>> Once again, I urge that we place as much consideration as >>>> =20 >>> possible on >>> =20 >>>> reducing message size to the maximum extent. >>>> I have myself been reluctant to spend a lot of time on=20 >reviewing the=20 >>>> document because I worry that my comments will not be taken as=20 >>>> constructive. Ian has expressed his concern that I am too late to=20 >>>> make any suggestions for substantial change. >>>> >>>> I believe that the TLV structure is very expensive in=20 >terms of byte=20 >>>> overhead. I also think that parseability is far less=20 >important than=20 >>>> message size, although both are important. >>>> I would rate the relative importance as 90% vs. 10% for the=20 >>>> parseability/size tradeoff. >>>> >>>> Similar considerations may apply to NHDP. >>>> >>>> It is pretty clear that the trend has been to be more=20 >"IETF"-like in=20 >>>> the message design, at the expense of message size. In my=20 >opinion,=20 >>>> this is inappropriate if we want our work to be applicable >>>> =20 >>> for sensors >>> =20 >>>> or 6lowpan or other low-power devices. When one byte of airtime=20 >>>> consumes as much energy as millions of processor cycles, it makes=20 >>>> sense to favor additional processing to reduce message size. IETF=20 >>>> protocols typically favor human readability of the=20 >protocol document=20 >>>> at the expense of message size, and for many applications this is=20 >>>> wholly inappropriate. >>>> >>>> I would be very interested to hear opinions from other >>>> =20 >>> members of the >>> =20 >>>> working group about this. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Charlie P. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ext Joe Macker wrote: >>>> =20 >>>>> At the manet WG meeting we discussed a workplan prior to=20 >moving SMF=20 >>>>> to Last Call for Experimental consideration. 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Topics of interests include, but are not limited to: * MIMO * UWB * Cognitive Radio * Multi-user Communications * RFID & Near Field Communication * Radio Resource Management * Vehicle communication & systems * Wireless mesh networks Paper Topics of Interest ------------------------- Authors are invited to submit papers that are not currently under review by another journal or conference. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to: . 3G, 4G and beyond systems . Antenna and RF subsystems . Coding, modulation and equalization . Convergence of wireless systems . Cross-layer design and optimization . Audio / video on wireless networks . Experimental systems and field trials . Fixed and nomadic wireless access . Generic access networks (GANs) . Heterogeneous wireless networking . Intelligent transportation systems . Location and positioning . MIMO . Mobility management . Modeling, analysis and simulation . QoS in wireless networks / systems . Radio interfaces and technologies . 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College, Norway - James Irvine, Univ. of Strathclyde, UK - Daeyoung Kim, ICU, South Korea Speaker Chair: - Geir Oien, NTNU, Norway Finance Chair & Publicity Chair: - Javier Gozalvez, University of Miguel Hernandez, Spain Tutorial Chair: - Pal Orten, Nera Networks AS, Norway Publication Chair: - Yan Zhang, Simula Research Lab., Norway Local Arrangement Chairs: - Steinar Andresen, NTNU, Norway - Harald Overby, NTNU, Norway Important Dates ----------------- Paper submission: 02 May 2007 Tutorial proposal: 02 May 2007 Acceptance: 02 July 2007 Author registration: 03 Aug. 2007 Camera-ready paper: 03 Aug. 2007 Tutorials: 16 Oct. 2007 Conference: 17-19 Oct. 2007 _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 30 11:28:15 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HXJ0D-0003G3-It; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:26:57 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HXJ0C-0003Fv-8s for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:26:56 -0400 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.186]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HXJ00-00087R-Gi for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:26:56 -0400 Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so535721muf for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:26:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=DH3d+8Yxc7ZxbfPZvICkpebYtjmeHzuHOKPN5yJ9HjKOeYwjq2TvTNslZMY2h5QPaF/9IXYyRIJaFJY5OirsML00uMbbw1w4eHgEHpigLKxZjgS1wJonF81QDMFunoUh0z7/RREjbWs8qiCo65RofQsCMPXSZUWQVn7Tm/lp7W4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=E7oP1gU5x6fYtEDtgYNg3pY/btsVYA0nPkgFj8wSkXcJA8k+FayhEd0tmPWwuMW0YbyG5W/CcbyXumPUDAu4Df4sirxWl98jeIGl8bdhxCm+0jia7pYlokIRQvks5Y8nQ+9uyYWkCGXxyDf3TmNRBtSTGWxnMoFG3plF/JmKJsY= Received: by 10.82.178.11 with SMTP id a11mr4086159buf.1175268401586; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.150.6 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:26:41 -0300 From: super.ismiti To: manet@ietf.org, ns-users@isi.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 39bd8f8cbb76cae18b7e23f7cf6b2b9f Cc: Subject: [manet] manet simulation in ns-2 with scen-gen X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0683553522==" Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org --===============0683553522== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_78872_13859007.1175268401554" ------=_Part_78872_13859007.1175268401554 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I want to simulate a mobile ad-hoc network using the ns-2. Well I have some questions, that I didn't find in the internet... First, how can I use the scen-gen. Only the help of this tool don't say too much things... I don't know how must I use the files that I made with this tool. Where could I find some examples of the using of this tool, specialy in mobile wireless networks? Second, how can I use a mobility model in a simulation? I didn't find any example of this... Where must I put the source (*.c) of the mobility model and where must I call it? Third, how can I install a new protocol in the ns-2. I want to install OLSR for example. I have the source of this protocol. What must I do to take it working in the ns-2? Thanks in advance for any help, Ricardo. ------=_Part_78872_13859007.1175268401554 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi,

I want to simulate a mobile ad-hoc network using the ns-2.
Well I have some questions, that I didn't find in the internet...

First, how can I use the scen-gen. Only the help of this tool don't say too much things... I don't know how must I use the files that I made with this tool. Where could I find some examples of the using of this tool, specialy in mobile wireless networks?


Second, how can I use a mobility model in a simulation? I didn't find any example of this... Where must I put the source (*.c) of the mobility model and where must I call it?

Third, how can I install a new protocol in the ns-2. I want to install OLSR for example. I have the source of this protocol. What must I do to take it working in the ns-2?

Thanks in advance for any help,
Ricardo. ------=_Part_78872_13859007.1175268401554-- --===============0683553522== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============0683553522==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 30 11:47:43 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HXJJB-0007LF-GH; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:46:33 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HXJJ9-0007L4-VZ for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:46:31 -0400 Received: from mail.unilim.fr ([164.81.1.45] helo=smtp.unilim.fr) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HXJJ7-0002rx-Dk for manet@ietf.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:46:31 -0400 Received: from [164.81.60.82] (sauveron-port.msi.unilim.fr [164.81.60.82]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.unilim.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2UFkLxQ019579 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:46:21 +0200 Message-ID: <460D30CD.9040503@xlim.fr> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:46:21 +0200 From: Damien Sauveron User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: manet@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Univ-Limoges-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.unilim.fr [164.81.1.45]); Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:46:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Univ-Limoges-MailScanner-Information: Serveur Anti-virus Please contact the SCI, Univ. of Limoges, for more information X-Univ-Limoges-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Univ-Limoges-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (cached, score=-101.785, requis 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_40 -0.18, MR_NOT_ATTRIBUTED_IP 0.20, SMTP_AUTH -100.00) X-Univ-Limoges-MailScanner-Envelope-From: damien.sauveron@xlim.fr X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 769a46790fb42fbb0b0cc700c82f7081 Subject: [manet] [WISTP'2007] 4 Grants for Young Researchers sponsored by Nokia X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org ******************************************************************* We apologize in advance if you receive multiple copies of this CFP. 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Perkins" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Mar 2007 15:55:53.0630 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5776BE0:01C772E3] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: abda3837e791065a13ac6f11cf8e625a Cc: manet , manet-dt@ietf.org X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org I agree with Chris and Joe. Fred=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Dearlove, Christopher (UK)=20 > [mailto:Chris.Dearlove@baesystems.com]=20 > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 2:02 AM > To: Joe Macker; Charles E. Perkins > Cc: manet; manet-dt@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request >=20 >=20 > Well, Thomas may or may not be able to speak, as he > has had email problems. My observations would be >=20 > - We need to get something out, as all of the MANET > work is based on this. A major restructuring, let > alone a complete replacement, could only be > contemplated if the current structure just didn't > work, and that is not the case. >=20 > - To reinforce that, I was just looking back at > packetbb-00, over a year ago. (Of course it didn't > spring into existence in that form, but prior art > was author drafts, in OLSRv2 etc.) That had > essentially all the features of packetbb-04. Of > course there have been refinements - including the > removal of fragmentation - but the time for putting > down a marker that this wasn't what was wanted was > then, or slightly later when DYMO (and Charles is > an author of DYMO) adopted it. Now is not that time. >=20 > - Editorial comment is always appropriate. Small > changes can have their pros and cons weighted. But > cons will include both that there are people who > want things simpler, and that by this point in time > any change automatically has a strike against it in > terms of timescales. >=20 > - A comparison of packetbb with alternatives would be > interesting, and I'd be very happy to see one. But > that does not extend to considering an alternative > as a replacement (for OLSRv2 at least, and hence > also for NHDP). >=20 > - Both Joe and I have commented on mappings from a > subset of packetbb to a more compressed format > (especially I would say if reversible) as of > interest. Unfortunately I can't commit to working > on such an idea, best I can offer would be to read > anyone else's work. >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Macker [mailto:joseph.macker@nrl.navy.mil]=20 > Sent: 29 March 2007 22:56 > To: 'Charles E. Perkins' > Cc: 'manet'; manet-dt@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request >=20 > *** WARNING *** >=20 > This mail has originated outside your organization, > either from an external partner or the Global Internet.=20 > Keep this in mind if you answer this message.=20 >=20 > I think your review is useful. I am just more satisfied with packetbb > than > perhaps you are and I felt the group has put a lot of time into it in > open > discussion for some time now. The authors can speak for themselves. > -joe >=20 > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Charles E. Perkins [mailto:charles.perkins@nokia.com]=20 > >Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 1:03 PM > >To: ext Joe Macker > >Cc: 'SATOH, Hiroki (HitachiSDL)'; 'manet'; manet-dt@ietf.org > >Subject: Re: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request > > > > > >Hello Joe, > > > >O.K. Now I _am_ confused, and ask for advice. > > > >I've been reluctant for quite some months to invest the number=20 > >of hours to review these documents, because I figured that=20 > >nobody would care what I said about them very much. During=20 > >the last meeting, Thomas and others convinced me to review=20 > >them (i.e, that they _would_ care what I said). > > > >So do I spend the time, or not? It will take me at least=20 > >another 6-7 hours of wall time to go through the documents and=20 > >identify editorial revisions, some more hours to compare=20 > >against alternative packet formats, and at least that much=20 > >time to carry on the e-mail discussions. I'm willing to do=20 > >it, but not if it is a farce and waste of time. > > > >Please let me know! > > > >Regards, > >Charlie P. > > > > > >ext Joe Macker wrote: > >> I would agree with Hiroki. Especially since we have had=20 > >these designs=20 > >> on the table for a long time now. We discussed at=20 > previous meetings=20 > >> that if special adaptations were needed for 6LOWPAN, sensor=20 > >nets, etc=20 > >> that those could be debated and potential adapted specific=20 > >to those applications. > >> > >> I would also add that fewer messages is often more important than=20 > >> smaller messages. If you think about the penalty of=20 > >accessing a shared channel,etc. > >> Of course, this depends upon the lower layer. > >> > >> -Joe > >> =20 > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: SATOH, Hiroki (HitachiSDL)=20 > >[mailto:hiroki.satoh.yj@hitachi.com] > >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:24 PM > >>> To: manet; manet-dt@ietf.org > >>> Subject: Re: [manet] Re: [Manet-dt] Review Request > >>> > >>> I agree with the importance of reducing message size=20 > especially for=20 > >>> sensor network. And it could be applicable if we change=20 > >packet format=20 > >>> with smart way. > >>> But from industrial point of view, I also worry about=20 > >DELAY for the=20 > >>> standardization. Almost all companies could not follow=20 > >frequent draft=20 > >>> update, because of a lot of cost. And MANET WG already advertised=20 > >>> PacketBB almost Last Call for RFC in 67th and 68th IETF. > >>> > >>> So I urge that first of all we move packetBB to RFC. After=20 > >>> standardization, we start to discuss how improve packet=20 > format and=20 > >>> update RFC in need. > >>> In my opinion packet format applicability depends on the=20 > service or=20 > >>> the application in real world. It may difficult to cover every=20 > >>> situation by only one document. Because the new service=20 > or the new=20 > >>> situation become available by technological invention day=20 > by day. I=20 > >>> think the merit of Last Call much bigger than that of delayed=20 > >>> standardization. The improvement update for real=20 > >application from now=20 > >>> on will be done after standardization, I think. > >>> > >>> Again I strongly recommend accelerate EVERY standardization=20 > >process. =20 > >>> Because I hope the MANET technique will be available as soon as=20 > >>> possible in real world from industrial standpoint, now=20 > only use for=20 > >>> some experimental work or limited field. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Hiroki > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------- > >>> SATOH, Hiroki > >>> Hitachi, Ltd., Systems Development Laboratory E-mail :=20 > >>> hiroki.satoh.yj@hitachi.com > >>> --------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 2007/03/26, at 23:43, Charles E. Perkins wrote: > >>> > >>> =20 > >>>> Hello folks, > >>>> > >>>> Once again, I urge that we place as much consideration as > >>>> =20 > >>> possible on > >>> =20 > >>>> reducing message size to the maximum extent. > >>>> I have myself been reluctant to spend a lot of time on=20 > >reviewing the=20 > >>>> document because I worry that my comments will not be taken as=20 > >>>> constructive. Ian has expressed his concern that I am=20 > too late to=20 > >>>> make any suggestions for substantial change. > >>>> > >>>> I believe that the TLV structure is very expensive in=20 > >terms of byte=20 > >>>> overhead. I also think that parseability is far less=20 > >important than=20 > >>>> message size, although both are important. > >>>> I would rate the relative importance as 90% vs. 10% for the=20 > >>>> parseability/size tradeoff. > >>>> > >>>> Similar considerations may apply to NHDP. > >>>> > >>>> It is pretty clear that the trend has been to be more=20 > >"IETF"-like in=20 > >>>> the message design, at the expense of message size. In my=20 > >opinion,=20 > >>>> this is inappropriate if we want our work to be applicable > >>>> =20 > >>> for sensors > >>> =20 > >>>> or 6lowpan or other low-power devices. When one byte of airtime=20 > >>>> consumes as much energy as millions of processor cycles,=20 > it makes=20 > >>>> sense to favor additional processing to reduce message=20 > size. IETF=20 > >>>> protocols typically favor human readability of the=20 > >protocol document=20 > >>>> at the expense of message size, and for many=20 > applications this is=20 > >>>> wholly inappropriate. > >>>> > >>>> I would be very interested to hear opinions from other > >>>> =20 > >>> members of the > >>> =20 > >>>> working group about this. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Charlie P. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ext Joe Macker wrote: > >>>> =20 > >>>>> At the manet WG meeting we discussed a workplan prior to=20 > >moving SMF=20 > >>>>> to Last Call for Experimental consideration. While some=20 > >readability=20 > >>>>> improvements may be done the authors request that the=20 > WG provide=20 > >>>>> comments as soon as possible. Positive and general=20 > comments are=20 > >>>>> encouraged along with others. > >>>>> If you an implementor and find something confusing we are > >>>>> =20 > >>> interested > >>> =20 > >>>>> in hearing from you. > >>>>> Please see the recent briefings on line from the last=20 > meeting to=20 > >>>>> understand the recent changes and upcoming plan. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Joe > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Manet-dt mailing list > >>>>> Manet-dt@ietf.org > >>>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt > >>>>> > >>>>> =20 > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Manet-dt mailing list > >>>> Manet-dt@ietf.org > >>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt > >>>> > >>>> =20 > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> manet mailing list > >>> manet@ietf.org > >>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > >>> > >>> =20 > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Manet-dt mailing list > >> Manet-dt@ietf.org > >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt > >> =20 > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Manet-dt mailing list > Manet-dt@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet-dt >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ******************************************************************** > This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended > recipient and may also be privileged. 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Local interface block in NHDP The following description "The first address block of the Local Interface Block MUST contain the used address of the interface over which theHELLO message is transmitted." was deleted in the -02 draft. Does this mean that the address must be included in the same order in all copies of a given HELLO message, regardless of which OLSRv2 nterface it is transmitted on? If so, the description in 9.2 of OLSRv2 -03 should be modified because there is now no clear distinction in terms of the order of addresses in the first address block between HELLO and TC messages. 2. Attached networks in OLSRv2 One of the main changes from -02 to -03 is "Local attached network advertisement may be delegated to MPRs." To do this, information on local attached network of a node is advertised in the Local Interface Block of the HELLO messages. However, it is not clear which information base is poplulated when this information is received by a MPR of this node. It is also not clear how this information is carried by TC messages of the MPR. Does the first address block or other address block of TC messages carry this information? If the latter, It is also needed to modifiy 13.1.3 of OLSRv2-03 since the gateway to the attached network is not the MPR itself but the original node with the attaced network. Am I missing something? I also have a question with reagard to attached network advertisement in HELLO messages. Why may attached networks with dist>0 not be advertized in HELLO messages? 3. "Local Attached Neighbor Tuple" in 12 of OLSRv2-03 should be "Local Attached Nework Tuple". 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Prospective authors are invited to submit original technical papers to the corresponding IWCMC 2007 Symposia as listed below for oral presentation at IWCMC 2007 and publication in the IWCMC 2007 Conference Proceedings. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ We're pleased to announce the following: [1] Professor Gordon Stuber from Georgia Tech, USA, who is the world-class leader in mobile wireless communications/networking, communication signal processing, and many other areas, has agreed to be the Keynote Speaker for our ACM IWCMC 2007.(http://dropzone.tamu.edu/~xizhang/IWCMC07/IWCMC07.htm) [2] "NTT DoCoMo USA", which is one of most famous companies in the mobile communications industries, has officially become the Financial Sponsor for our ACM IWCMC 2007.(http://dropzone.tamu.edu/~xizhang/IWCMC07/IWCMC07.htm) [3] ACM has officially become the technical sponsor for IWCMC 2007 (this was notified earlier) and all the accepted IWCMC 2007 papers will be included into the ACM Database. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ IWCMC 2007 General Organizing Committee: General Co-Chairs: Mohsen Guizani, Western Michigan University, USA, Email: mguizani@ieee.org Hsiao-Hwa Chen, National Sun Yat-Sen University, Taiwan, Email: hshwchen@comm.nsysu.edu.tw Technical Program Committee Chair: Xi Zhang, Texas A&M University, USA, Email: xizhang@ece.tamu.edu Financial Chair: Eun K. 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Under our new theme of "The Future is Now -- The New Era of Wireless Communications and Mobile Computing/Networking" , IWCMC2007 is targeting at a wide spectrum of state-of-the-art as well as emerging topics pertaining to wireless networks, communications, and mobile computing. Continuing the great succeed of ACM IWCMC 2006 last year, IWCMC 2007 is anticipated to attract an even larger volume of high quality submissions and stimulate the cutting-edge research discussions amongst many academic pioneering researchers/scientists and industrial engineers/leaders attendees from all around the world as was evidenced during ACM IWCMC 2006. The ACM IWCMC 2007 program will feature a General Symposium, 8 Specific Technical Symposia, Workshop, and Tutorials Sessions. 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Park, University of Missouri at Kansas City, USA, Email: ekpark@umkc.edu IWCMC 2007 Technical Symposia: General Symposium: Chair: Xuemin (Sherman) Shen, University of Waterloo, Canada, xshen@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Co-Chairs: Dongmei Zhao, McMaster University, Canada, dzhao@mail.ece.mcmaster.ca Hai Jiang, Princeton University, USA, haijiang@princeton.edu (1) Communication and Information Theory Symposium: Chair: Hamid Sadjadpour, University of California, Santa Cruz, USA, hamid@soe.ucsc.edu Ravi Narasimhan, University of California, Santa Cruz, USA ravi@soe.ucsc.edu (2) Computer and Network Security Symposium: Chair: Xiaojiang (James) Du, North Dakota State University, USA, xiaojiang.du@ndsu.edu Co-Chairs: Yang Xiao, University of Alabama, USA, yangxiao@ieee.org, Yong Guan, Iowa State University, USA, guan@iastate.edu (3) Cross-Layer Optimized Wireless Networks Symposium: Chair: Xi Zhang, Texas A&M University, USA, xizhang@ece.tamu.edu Co-Chairs: Weihua Zhuang, University of Waterloo, Canada, wzhuang@ece.uwaterloo.ca Sunghyun Choi, Seoul National University, Korea, schoi@snu.ac.kr Kun Yang, University of Essex, UK, kunyang@essex.ac.uk (4) MIMO Systems Symposium: Chair: Zhengyuan Xu, University of California, Riverside, USA, dxu@ee.ucr.edu Co-Chairs (in alphabet order): Javier Garcia-Frias, University of Delaware, USA, jgarcia@ee.udel.edu Mounir Ghogho, Leeds University, UK, m.ghogho@leeds.ac.uk Weifeng Su, State University of New York (SUNY) at Buffalo, USA, weifeng@eng.buffalo.edu Liuqing Yang, University of Florida, USA, lqyang@ece.ufl.edu (5) Mobile Computing Symposium: Chair: Jie Li, University of Tsukuba, Japan, lijie@cs.tsukuba.ac.jp (6) Multimedia over Wireless Symposium: Chairs: Haohong Wang, Marvell Technology Group, USA, haohongwang@yahoo.com (7) Next Generation Mobile Networks Symposium (Website Link): Chair: Victor Leung, The University of British Columbia, Canada, vleung@ece.ubc.ca Co-Chairs: Ekram Hossain, University of Manitoba, Canada, ekram@ee.umanitoba.ca Javan Erfanian, Bell Mobility, Canada, javan.erfanian@bell.ca (8) Wireless Sensor Networks Symposium: Chair: Yang Yang, University College London, United Kingdom, y.yang@ee.ucl.ac.uk (9) Wireless LANs and Wireless PANs Symposium: Chair: Ehab Elmallah, University of Alberta, Canada, Canada, ehab@cs.ualberta.ca Co-Chair: Yang Xiao, University of Alabama, USA, yangxiao@ieee.org (10) Workshop Chair: Song Ci, University of Nebraska-Lincoln, USA sci@engr.unl.edu Co-Chair: Yi Cui, Vanderbilt University, USA yi.cui@vanderbilt.edu IMPORTANT DATES: Full Paper Submission: April 10, 2007 (updated) Notification of Acceptance: May 25, 2007 Camera-Ready Version/Copyright Form Submission: June 11, 2007 Registration Deadline for Authors: June 11, 2007 Hotel Reservation Deadline: July 10, 2007 _____________________ ========================================================================= Xi Zhang Assistant Professor Dept. of Elec. & Comput. Engin. Phone: 979-458-1416 Texas A&M University Fax: 979-845-2630 333N WERC Building Email: xizhang@ece.tamu.edu College Station, Texas 77843, USA URL http://dropzone.tamu.edu/~xizhang ========================================================================= _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet