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Sana:

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	Title           : Dynamic MANET On-demand (DYMO) Routing
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	Title           : MANET Neighborhood Discovery Protocol (NHDP)
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        RFC 5497

        Title:      Representing Multi-Value Time in Mobile 
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        Author:     T. Clausen, C. Dearlove
        Status:     Standards Track
        Date:       March 2009
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This document describes a general and flexible TLV (type-length-value
structure) for representing time-values, such as an interval or a
duration, using the generalized Mobile Ad hoc NETwork (MANET) packet/
message format.  It defines two Message TLVs and two Address Block
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I believe that correction is technically correct.

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Type: Editorial
Reported by: Alfred Hoenes <ah@TR-Sys.de>

Section: 6, pg.7

Original Text
-------------
   The following data structure allows the representation of a single
|  time-value, or of a default time-value plus pairs of (time-values,
|  hop counts) for when hop-count-dependent time-values are required.
   [...]

Corrected Text
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   The following data structure allows the representation of a single
|  time-value, or of a default time-value plus pairs of (time-value,
|  hop count) for when hop-count-dependent time-values are required.
   [...]

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Each pair contains a single 'time-value' and a single 'hop-count'.
See text on pp. 8/9: multiple instances of "(time-value, hop count)".

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Author(s)           : T. Clausen, C. Dearlove
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I believe this erratum is correct, and should be made.=20

Christopher Dearlove (co-author of RFC 5497)

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Type: Technical
Reported by: Alfred Hoenes <ah@TR-Sys.de>

Section: 6.2, pg.9

Original Text
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[ first bullet: ]

   o  The <length> field in the TLV MUST contain the value m * (2n+1),
|     with n being the number of (time-value, hop count) pairs in the
|     Time TLV, and m being number-values as defined in [RFC5444].


Corrected Text
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   o  The <length> field in the TLV MUST contain the value m * (2n+1),
|     with n being the number of (time-value, hop count) pairs per
|     associated address in the Time TLV, and m being number-values as
      defined in [RFC5444].
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Title               : Representing Multi-Value Time in Mobile Ad Hoc
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This erratum does point out an error, but the correction is
itself incorrect.

The references to Section 5 should be to Section 6. They
should however NOT be to Section 6.2. There are two forms
of Time TLV, both defined in Section 6, one in Section 6.1
and one defined in Section 6.2. To make this reference to
Section 6.2 would imply that these TLVs would have to be
of one form only, which is definitely not the case.
Furthermore part of the specification is in Section 6
before Section 6.1. and that should also be covered by
the reference,

I have not yet seen erratum 1723, but in the indicated
sections, two reference to Section 5 should also be to
Section 6 (not Section 6.1 - although Section 6.1 rather
than Section 6.2 applies, Section 6 before Section 6.1
also should be included in the cross-reference).

The erratum here should be


Original Text
-------------
a) Section 8.1, last paragraph

   An INTERVAL_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 5.

b) Section 8.2, last paragraph

   A VALIDITY_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 5.


Corrected Text
--------------
a)

   An INTERVAL_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 6.

b)

   A VALIDITY_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 6.


Christopher Dearlove (co-author of RFC 5497)

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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5497,
"Representing Multi-Value Time in Mobile Ad Hoc Networks (MANETs)".

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http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D5497&eid=3D1724

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Type: Editorial
Reported by: Alfred Hoenes <ah@TR-Sys.de>

Section: 8.1 and 8.2

Original Text
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a) Section 8.1, last paragraph

   An INTERVAL_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 5.

b) Section 8.2, last paragraph

   A VALIDITY_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 5.


Corrected Text
--------------
a)

   An INTERVAL_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 6.2.

b)

   A VALIDITY_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 6.2.


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-----
Rationale:
Section 5 only contains the low-level details;
Section 6, and in particular Section 6.2, contains the precise
specification of the Time TLV format used in Sections 8.1 and 8.2.=20

See Errata ID #1723 for similar issues in Sections 7.1 and 7.2.

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Title               : Representing Multi-Value Time in Mobile Ad Hoc
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Publication Date    : March 2009
Author(s)           : T. Clausen, C. Dearlove
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As discussed in my reply to erratum 1724, there is an
error, but the correction here is incorrect. The
correction should be


Original Text
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a) Section 7.1, last paragraph

   An INTERVAL_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 5.

b) Section 7.2, last paragraph

   A VALIDITY_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 5.


Corrected Text
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a)

   An INTERVAL_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 6.

b)

   A VALIDITY_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 6.=20


This is because part of the specification to be covered by the
reference is in Section 6 before Section 6.1.


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Type: Editorial
Reported by: Alfred Hoenes <ah@TR-Sys.de>

Section: 7.1 and 7.2

Original Text
-------------
a) Section 7.1, last paragraph

   An INTERVAL_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 5.

b) Section 7.2, last paragraph

   A VALIDITY_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 5.


Corrected Text
--------------
a)

   An INTERVAL_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 6.1.

b)

   A VALIDITY_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 6.1.



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  Section 5 only contains the low-level details;
  Section 6, and in particular Section 6.1, contains the precise
  specification of the Time TLV format used in Sections 7.1 and 7.2.

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Title               : Representing Multi-Value Time in Mobile Ad Hoc
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Publication Date    : March 2009
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I do not agree with the suggestion below. The correction
should simply be to Section 6, as I nored. Section 6
includes its subsections.

The previously modified erratum as I noted is what (if
anything) should be published.

As for erratum notes, I would simply replace them by
"Incorrect reference". No more.

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Christopher,
thanks for your nearly instantaneous responses.

I mostly agree with your annotations for Errata ID #1723 and #1724.

I already had considered to add more information, but as frequently
the desire is to keep the footprint of changes as small as possible,
I had moved the details into the Notes, not into the Modified Text.

The common RFC section numbering style has a few drawbacks that
sometimes become apparent.  If the body of Section 6 (excluding
6.1 and 6.2) would have been numbered 6.0, a ref. to "Section 6"
would unambiguously indicate the part of text that matters;
as things currently are, it is not precisely clear whether a ref.
to "Section 6" means the whole section (including 6.1 and 6.2) or
only the initial part.

The Message TLVs per Sections 7.1 and 7.2 are single-value Time TLVs,
and Section 6.2 explicitely excludes applicability to Message TLVs;
thus, simply referring to "Section 6" would be potentially confusing;
I now suggest to more precisely refer there (eid=3D1723) to:
   "Sections 6 and 6.1."
as already mentioned in the original Notes for eid-1723
(which then can be dropped).

In contrast, the TLVs in Sections 8.1 and 8.2 indeed allow to use
6.1, as I found on once more re-reading the text after your note;
however, since Section 6.2 does not exclude m=3D1, I originally had
read the text in 8.1 and 8.2 as using 6.2 exclusively.
My mistake, perhaps -- but also a bit of surprising overlap in the
specification.
Now taking that overlap as given, it might be best to more precisely
refer in Sections 8.1 and 8.2 (eid=3D1724) to:
   "Sections 6 through 6.2."
The Notes for eid=3D1724 can be dropped on Errata approval as well.


Kind regards,
  Alfred H=CEnes.

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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5497,
"Representing Multi-Value Time in Mobile Ad Hoc Networks (MANETs)".

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Type: Editorial
Reported by: Alfred Hoenes <ah@TR-Sys.de>

Section: 6, pg.7

Original Text
-------------
   The following data structure allows the representation of a single
|  time-value, or of a default time-value plus pairs of (time-values,
|  hop counts) for when hop-count-dependent time-values are required.
   [...]

Corrected Text
--------------
   The following data structure allows the representation of a single
|  time-value, or of a default time-value plus pairs of (time-value,
|  hop count) for when hop-count-dependent time-values are required.
   [...]

Notes
-----
Rationale:
Each pair contains a single 'time-value' and a single 'hop-count'.
See text on pp. 8/9: multiple instances of "(time-value, hop count)".

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RFC5497 (draft-ietf-manet-timetlv-08)
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Title               : Representing Multi-Value Time in Mobile Ad Hoc Networks (MANETs)
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Author(s)           : T. Clausen, C. Dearlove
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Source              : Mobile Ad-hoc Networks
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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5497,
"Representing Multi-Value Time in Mobile Ad Hoc Networks (MANETs)".

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Type: Technical
Reported by: Alfred Hoenes <ah@TR-Sys.de>

Section: 6.2, pg.9

Original Text
-------------
[ first bullet: ]

   o  The <length> field in the TLV MUST contain the value m * (2n+1),
|     with n being the number of (time-value, hop count) pairs in the
|     Time TLV, and m being number-values as defined in [RFC5444].


Corrected Text
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   o  The <length> field in the TLV MUST contain the value m * (2n+1),
|     with n being the number of (time-value, hop count) pairs per
|     associated address in the Time TLV, and m being number-values as
      defined in [RFC5444].
 

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The original text is contradictory in itself, and it opposes the
subsequent bullets and prose in the same section.
The proposed correction (inserting "per associated adddress")
is derived from the text in the first paragraph of the section.

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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5497,
"Representing Multi-Value Time in Mobile Ad Hoc Networks (MANETs)".

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Type: Editorial
Reported by: Alfred Hoenes <ah@TR-Sys.de>

Section: 7.1 and 7.2

Original Text
-------------
a) Section 7.1, last paragraph

   An INTERVAL_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 5.

b) Section 7.2, last paragraph

   A VALIDITY_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 5.


Corrected Text
--------------
a)

   An INTERVAL_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 6.1.

b)

   A VALIDITY_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 6.1.



Notes
-----
Rationale:
  Section 5 only contains the low-level details;
  Section 6, and in particular Section 6.1, contains the precise
  specification of the Time TLV format used in Sections 7.1 and 7.2.

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Title               : Representing Multi-Value Time in Mobile Ad Hoc Networks (MANETs)
Publication Date    : March 2009
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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5497,
"Representing Multi-Value Time in Mobile Ad Hoc Networks (MANETs)".

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Type: Editorial
Reported by: Alfred Hoenes <ah@TR-Sys.de>

Section: 8.1 and 8.2

Original Text
-------------
a) Section 8.1, last paragraph

   An INTERVAL_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 5.

b) Section 8.2, last paragraph

   A VALIDITY_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 5.


Corrected Text
--------------
a)

   An INTERVAL_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 6.2.

b)

   A VALIDITY_TIME TLV is an example of a Time TLV specified as in
|  Section 6.2.


Notes
-----
Rationale:
Section 5 only contains the low-level details;
Section 6, and in particular Section 6.2, contains the precise
specification of the Time TLV format used in Sections 8.1 and 8.2. 

See Errata ID #1723 for similar issues in Sections 7.1 and 7.2.

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RFC5497 (draft-ietf-manet-timetlv-08)
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Title               : Representing Multi-Value Time in Mobile Ad Hoc Networks (MANETs)
Publication Date    : March 2009
Author(s)           : T. Clausen, C. Dearlove
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Mobile Ad-hoc Networks
Area                : Routing
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Christopher,
thanks for your nearly instantaneous responses.

I mostly agree with your annotations for Errata ID #1723 and #1724.

I already had considered to add more information, but as frequently
the desire is to keep the footprint of changes as small as possible,
I had moved the details into the Notes, not into the Modified Text.

The common RFC section numbering style has a few drawbacks that
sometimes become apparent.  If the body of Section 6 (excluding
6.1 and 6.2) would have been numbered 6.0, a ref. to "Section 6"
would unambiguously indicate the part of text that matters;
as things currently are, it is not precisely clear whether a ref.
to "Section 6" means the whole section (including 6.1 and 6.2) or
only the initial part.

The Message TLVs per Sections 7.1 and 7.2 are single-value Time TLVs,
and Section 6.2 explicitely excludes applicability to Message TLVs;
thus, simply referring to "Section 6" would be potentially confusing;
I now suggest to more precisely refer there (eid=1723) to:
   "Sections 6 and 6.1."
as already mentioned in the original Notes for eid-1723
(which then can be dropped).

In contrast, the TLVs in Sections 8.1 and 8.2 indeed allow to use
6.1, as I found on once more re-reading the text after your note;
however, since Section 6.2 does not exclude m=1, I originally had
read the text in 8.1 and 8.2 as using 6.2 exclusively.
My mistake, perhaps -- but also a bit of surprising overlap in the
specification.
Now taking that overlap as given, it might be best to more precisely
refer in Sections 8.1 and 8.2 (eid=1724) to:
   "Sections 6 through 6.2."
The Notes for eid=1724 can be dropped on Errata approval as well.


Kind regards,
  Alfred HÎnes.

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Dear All,

I am very intersting in routing in mobile ad hoc. Therefore, I would like if you have code of algorithms of routing in mobile ad hoc(AODV, DSR, LAR, ...), please send me.

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dear Le Hung
you need code for wiche simulator ?
AODV, and DSR are already implemented in NS2
OLSR and DYMOM are available for NS2 at : http://masimum.inf.um.es/?Softwar=
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AODV, OLSR, are already implemented in OPNET 11.5


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I have published a preliminary agenda at:

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Mobile Ad hoc Networks (MANET) Agenda

Meeting  : IETF 74 Thursday March 26th 2009
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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5148,
"Jitter Considerations in Mobile Ad Hoc Networks (MANETs)".

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Type: Editorial
Reported by: Thomas Clausen <T.Clausen@Computer.org>

Section: 7.2

Original Text
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   [7]  Clausen, T., Dearlove, C., Dean, J., and C. Adjih, "Generalized
        MANET Packet/Message Format", Work in Progress.

Corrected Text
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   [7]  Clausen, T., Dearlove, C., Dean, J., and C. Adjih,
              "Generalized MANET Packet/Message Format", RFC 5444,
              February 2009.

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draft-ietf-manet-packetbb ("Generalized MANET Packet/Message Format") was published as RFC5444. RFC5148 should, therefore, reference this archival document (RFC5444) rather than the Internet Draft.

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RFC5148 (draft-ietf-manet-jitter-04)
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Title               : Jitter Considerations in Mobile Ad Hoc Networks (MANETs)
Publication Date    : February 2008
Author(s)           : T. Clausen, C. Dearlove, B. Adamson
Category            : INFORMATIONAL
Source              : Mobile Ad-hoc Networks
Area                : Routing
Stream              : IETF
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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5498,
"IANA Allocations for Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) Protocols".

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Type: Editorial
Reported by: Thomas Clausen <T.Clausen@Computer.org>

Section: 6

Original Text
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   Action 2:

      IANA has made the following assignments in the "PROTOCOL NUMBERS"
      registry:

      sub-registry "WELL KNOWN PORT NUMBERS"

      Keyword Decimal Description     References
      ------- ------- -----------     ----------
      manet   138     MANET Protocols [RFC5498]

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   Action 2:

      IANA has made the following assignments in the "PROTOCOL NUMBERS"
      registry:

      Keyword Decimal Description     References
      ------- ------- -----------     ----------
      manet   138     MANET Protocols [RFC5498]

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The original text reads, for "protocol numbers" that an assignment should be made in the "well known port numbers" sub-registry. There appears to be no such sub-registry in the PROTOCOL NUMBERS registry managed by IANA.

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RFC5498 (draft-ietf-manet-iana-07)
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Title               : IANA Allocations for Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) Protocols
Publication Date    : March 2009
Author(s)           : I. Chakeres
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Mobile Ad-hoc Networks
Area                : Routing
Stream              : IETF
Verifying Party     : IESG

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Hi all

We are very interesting in MANET routing protocols.
We already developed the DYMO routing with KNU.
(EK-DYMO, http://monet.knu.ac.kr/dymo/)

Currently we have a plan to enhance the routing protocol.
Especially, We will extend the DYMO routing.
We have the prerequisites:
- The MANET routers are characterized by inclusion of more MANET
   Interfaces.=20
- The MANET routers may organize and maintain multiple paths=20
   which are composed of many interfaces in each path. =20
- The MANET routing protocol gets the multiple paths=20
   which may be made independently.
- The application want to use multiple routes simultaneously.
   These multiple paths may be able to transmit the application=20
   traffic simultaneously.

So,=20
If DYMO and OLSRv2 protocols are matured and well-made now,=20
It is time to extend them to support multiple interface/path like DSR.

I read the DSR protocol. I understood it has features supporting
multiple interface, multiple path and unidirectional interfaces.

I think that these features should be supported in DYMO routing.
Do you think it is reasonable approach? Or not.
Please give me your opinion.

And
If you are interesting in these issues, please let me know that.=20

Thank you very much!

Jungsoo


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Hi,

In my view (I'm using it with 6loWPAN) DYMO is supposed to be a simple
algorithm.

On the other hand, if you just want to use multiple interfaces because
they access different parts of the network, you can just treat every
interface as a separate "device".

Cheers,
Peter

박정수 wrote:
> Hi all
>
> We are very interesting in MANET routing protocols.
> We already developed the DYMO routing with KNU.
> (EK-DYMO, http://monet.knu.ac.kr/dymo/)
>
> Currently we have a plan to enhance the routing protocol.
> Especially, We will extend the DYMO routing.
> We have the prerequisites:
> - The MANET routers are characterized by inclusion of more MANET
>    Interfaces. 
> - The MANET routers may organize and maintain multiple paths 
>    which are composed of many interfaces in each path.  
> - The MANET routing protocol gets the multiple paths 
>    which may be made independently.
> - The application want to use multiple routes simultaneously.
>    These multiple paths may be able to transmit the application 
>    traffic simultaneously.
>
> So, 
> If DYMO and OLSRv2 protocols are matured and well-made now, 
> It is time to extend them to support multiple interface/path like DSR.
>
> I read the DSR protocol. I understood it has features supporting
> multiple interface, multiple path and unidirectional interfaces.
>
> I think that these features should be supported in DYMO routing.
> Do you think it is reasonable approach? Or not.
> Please give me your opinion.
>
> And
> If you are interesting in these issues, please let me know that. 
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Jungsoo
>
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	Date            : 2009-03-26

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In the WG meeting yesterday we polled the group on making the
following MIB documents WG documents.

draft-ietf-cole-manet-smf-mib-02.txt
draft-ietf-cole-manet-nhdp-mib-01.txt
draft-ietf-cole-manet-olsr-mib-01.txt

During the meeting poll there was broad support in the room.

If you have any comments/concerns about making these MIB documents WG
documents, feel free to voice it.

Thanks.
Ian Chakeres

P.S. Please review NHDP & SMF as they will enter WGLC shortly.
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/manet/

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I'm all in favor of these documents being adopted as WG documents.

Thomas

On Mar 27, 2009, at 19:04 PM, Ian Chakeres wrote:

> In the WG meeting yesterday we polled the group on making the
> following MIB documents WG documents.
>
> draft-ietf-cole-manet-smf-mib-02.txt
> draft-ietf-cole-manet-nhdp-mib-01.txt
> draft-ietf-cole-manet-olsr-mib-01.txt
>
> During the meeting poll there was broad support in the room.
>
> If you have any comments/concerns about making these MIB documents WG
> documents, feel free to voice it.
>
> Thanks.
> Ian Chakeres
>
> P.S. Please review NHDP & SMF as they will enter WGLC shortly.
> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/manet/
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Ditto.

Regards,
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> I'm all in favor of these documents being adopted as WG documents.
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> Thomas
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> On Mar 27, 2009, at 19:04 PM, Ian Chakeres wrote:
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> > draft-ietf-cole-manet-smf-mib-02.txt
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> > During the meeting poll there was broad support in the room.
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> > Thanks.
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The same for me.

Ulrich

Stan Ratliff (sratliff) wrote:
> Ditto.
>
> Regards,
> Stan 
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: manet-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] 
>> On Behalf Of Thomas Heide Clausen
>> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 4:21 PM
>> To: Ian Chakeres
>> Cc: manet; Cole, Robert G.
>> Subject: Re: [manet] MANET MIBs
>>
>> I'm all in favor of these documents being adopted as WG documents.
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>> On Mar 27, 2009, at 19:04 PM, Ian Chakeres wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> In the WG meeting yesterday we polled the group on making the 
>>> following MIB documents WG documents.
>>>
>>> draft-ietf-cole-manet-smf-mib-02.txt
>>> draft-ietf-cole-manet-nhdp-mib-01.txt
>>> draft-ietf-cole-manet-olsr-mib-01.txt
>>>
>>> During the meeting poll there was broad support in the room.
>>>
>>> If you have any comments/concerns about making these MIB 
>>>       
>> documents WG 
>>     
>>> documents, feel free to voice it.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Ian Chakeres
>>>
>>> P.S. Please review NHDP & SMF as they will enter WGLC shortly.
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/manet/
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> manet mailing list
>>> manet@ietf.org
>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet
>>>       
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The same for me.<br>
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Ulrich<br>
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Stan Ratliff (sratliff) wrote:
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  <pre wrap="">Ditto.

Regards,
Stan 

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I'm all in favor of these documents being adopted as WG documents.

Thomas

On Mar 27, 2009, at 19:04 PM, Ian Chakeres wrote:

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      <pre wrap="">In the WG meeting yesterday we polled the group on making the 
following MIB documents WG documents.

draft-ietf-cole-manet-smf-mib-02.txt
draft-ietf-cole-manet-nhdp-mib-01.txt
draft-ietf-cole-manet-olsr-mib-01.txt

During the meeting poll there was broad support in the room.

If you have any comments/concerns about making these MIB 
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    <pre wrap="">documents WG 
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      <pre wrap="">documents, feel free to voice it.

Thanks.
Ian Chakeres

P.S. Please review NHDP &amp; SMF as they will enter WGLC shortly.
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Subject: [manet] Problems of loss Mobile IP packets
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I'm using ns2-2.26 the topology is below: two wired nodes, one HA and
three wireless nodes

          ..--------------..
     ..:''                  '':..
   ''                            '.
  |    MANET  running   |
   ..            olsr          .'
     '':..              +---+ /
        ''---+----------|HA|/
                       +----+
                            \
                          ++---+        ++-----++
                          |wired |       |wired    |
                          |node1|-------| node 0 |
                          +---++       ++-------+
We are running NRLOLSR v7.1 and mobile ip in this scenario

the wired nodes and nodes in manet could  transfer CBR, and the cbr
and control message of nrlolsr are normal.

The problem is :
when the control messages of Mobile IP is generated and send to
Routing layer, the TTL of the control message is decreased to 1, thus
couldn't be delivered.

the trace file is below:
s 3.555880716 _3_ AGT  --- 90 udp 52 [0 0 0 0] ------- [4194305:0 -1:0 32 0=
]
r 3.555880716 _3_ RTR  --- 90 udp 52 [0 0 0 0] ------- [4194305:0 -1:0 32 0=
]
f 3.555880716 _3_ RTR  --- 90 udp 72 [0 0 0 0] ------- [4194305:0 -1:0 1 0]
r 3.557533187 _2_ RTR  --- 90 udp 72 [0 ffffffff 1 800] -------
[4194305:0 -1:0 1 0]
D 3.557533187 _2_ RTR  TTL 90 udp 72 [0 ffffffff 1 800] -------
[4194305:0 -1:0 0 0]
r 3.557533383 _4_ RTR  --- 90 udp 72 [0 ffffffff 1 800] -------
[4194305:0 -1:0 1 0]
D 3.557533383 _4_ RTR  TTL 90 udp 72 [0 ffffffff 1 800] -------
[4194305:0 -1:0 0 0]
s 3.588122671 _5_ AGT  --- 91 udp 52 [0 0 0 0] ------- [4194307:0 -1:0 32 0=
]
r 3.588122671 _5_ RTR  --- 91 udp 52 [0 0 0 0] ------- [4194307:0 -1:0 32 0=
]
f 3.588122671 _5_ RTR  --- 91 udp 72 [0 0 0 0] ------- [4194307:0 -1:0 1 0]
s 3.588708238 _3_ AGT  --- 92 udp 44 [0 0 0 0] ------- [4194305:698
-1:698 255 0]
r 3.588708238 _3_ RTR  --- 92 udp 44 [0 0 0 0] ------- [4194305:698
-1:698 255 0]
f 3.588708238 _3_ RTR  --- 92 ProtolibManetKernel 64 [0 0 0 0] -------
[4194305:698 -1:698 1 0]
r 3.589595040 _4_ RTR  --- 91 udp 72 [0 ffffffff 3 800] -------
[4194307:0 -1:0 1 0]
D 3.589595040 _4_ RTR  TTL 91 udp 72 [0 ffffffff 3 800] -------
[4194307:0 -1:0 0 0]
r 3.589595263 _2_ RTR  --- 91 udp 72 [0 ffffffff 3 800] -------
[4194307:0 -1:0 1 0]
D 3.589595263 _2_ RTR  TTL 91 udp 72 [0 ffffffff 3 800] -------
[4194307:0 -1:0 0 0]


Here is the tcl script, could anyone give tips on how to solve this??
the DSDV and AODV could run very well with mobile IP.

# =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
# Define options
# =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
set opt(namfile)         out.nam
set opt(tracefile)       out.tr
set opt(x)               500;                #x dimension of the
set opt(y)               500;
set opt(wirelessNodes)   3;                  #mobile nodes
set opt(wiredNodes)      2;                  #hosts and routers
set  gatewayNodes    1;                  #gateways
set val(stop)            60.0;               #simulation time
set val(start-src)       0
set val(stop-src)        60.0
set val(chan)           Channel/WirelessChannel    ;# channel type
set val(prop)           Propagation/TwoRayGround   ;# radio-propagation
set val(netif)          Phy/WirelessPhy            ;# network interface
set val(mac)            Mac/802_11                 ;# MAC type
set val(ifq)            Queue/DropTail/PriQueue    ;# interface queue
set val(ll)             LL                         ;# link layer type
set val(ant)            Antenna/OmniAntenna        ;# antenna model
set val(ifqlen)         50                         ;# max packet in ifq
set val(nn)             3                         ;# number of
set val(rp)             ProtolibManetKernel         ;# routing protocol
# =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
#---------------------------
#Initialize Global Variables
#---------------------------
#create a simulator object
set ns [new Simulator]
$ns color 0 Brown
#----------------------------------------
#Define The Hierachial Topology Structure
#----------------------------------------
$ns node-config -addressType hierarchical
#Nbr of domains
AddrParams set domain_num_ 2
#Nbr of clusters (=3Dsubdomains) in each domain
lappend clusterNbr 2 1
# API fuction
AddrParams set cluster_num_ $clusterNbr
#Nbr of nodes in each cluster
lappend eilastlevel 1 1 4
AddrParams set nodes_num_ $eilastlevel
#create trace objects for ns and nam
#$ns use-newtrace
set nstrace [open $opt(tracefile) w]
$ns trace-all $nstrace
set namtrace [open $opt(namfile) w]
$ns namtrace-all-wireless $namtrace $opt(x) $opt(y)
#create a topology object and define topology (500mx500m)
set topo [new Topography]
$topo load_flatgrid $opt(x) $opt(y)
#create God (General Operations Director)
create-god [expr $opt(wirelessNodes)+$gatewayNodes]
#create wired nodes
set temp {0.0.0 0.1.0}
for {set i 0} {$i < $opt(wiredNodes)} {incr i} {
set host($i) [$ns node [lindex $temp $i]]
}
#--------------------------------------
#Configure for Gateway and Mobile Nodes
#--------------------------------------
#Use hierarchical addresses for GWs and MNs
#configure for mobile nodes and gateways
set chan_1_ [new $val(chan)]
$ns node-config  -mobileIP ON \
           -adhocRouting $val(rp) \
           -llType $val(ll) \
           -macType $val(mac) \
           -ifqType $val(ifq) \
           -ifqLen $val(ifqlen) \
           -antType $val(ant) \
           -propType $val(prop) \
           -phyType $val(netif) \
           -channel $chan_1_ \
           -topoInstance $topo \
           -agentTrace ON \
           -routerTrace ON \
           -macTrace OFF \
           -movementTrace OFF
#configure for gateways
$ns node-config -wiredRouting ON
#create gateway
set gw(0) [$ns node 1.0.0]
set p(0) [new Agent/NrlolsrAgent]
$ns attach-agent $gw(0) $p(0)
$ns at 0.0 "$p(0) startup -tcj .75 -hj .5 -tci 2.5 -hi .5 -d 8 -l
gw.log -hna off"
[$gw(0) set ragent_] attach-manet $p(0)
$p(0) attach-protolibManetKernel [$gw(0) set ragent_]
#set initial coordinates
$gw(0) set X_ 200.0
$gw(0) set Y_ 200.0
$gw(0) set Z_ 0.0
$ns at 0.00 "$gw(0) setdest 200 200 20"

#configure for mobile nodes
$ns node-config -wiredRouting OFF
#create mobile nodes in the same domain as gw(0)
set temp {1.0.1 1.0.2 1.0.3}
for {set i 3} {$i < $opt(wirelessNodes)+3} {incr i} {
   set mobile($i) [$ns node [lindex $temp [expr $i-3]]]
   #$mobile($i) base-station [AddrParams addr2id [$gw(0) node-addr]]
     set HAaddress [AddrParams addr2id [$gw(0) node-addr]]
   [$mobile($i) set regagent_] set home_agent_ $HAaddress
   $mobile($i) random-motion 1
     set p($i) [new Agent/NrlolsrAgent]
     $ns attach-agent $mobile($i) $p($i)
     $ns at 0.0 "$p($i) startup -tcj .75 -hj .5 -tci 2.5 -hi .5 -d 8
-l mn.log -hna off"
     [$mobile($i) set ragent_] attach-manet $p($i)
     $p($i) attach-protolibManetKernel [$mobile($i) set ragent_]
                       ;# enable random motion
}
$mobile(3) set X_ 100
$mobile(3) set Y_ 300
$mobile(3) set Z_ 0.0
$mobile(4) set X_ 300
$mobile(4) set Y_ 300
$mobile(4) set Z_ 0.0
$mobile(5) set X_ 400
$mobile(5) set Y_ 200
$mobile(5) set Z_ 0.0
puts ""
puts "host0 =3D [$host(0) node-addr] =3D [AddrParams addr2id [$host(0) node=
-addr]]"
puts "host1 =3D [$host(1) node-addr] =3D [AddrParams addr2id [$host(1) node=
-addr]]"
puts "gw0 =3D [$gw(0) node-addr] =3D [AddrParams addr2id [$gw(0) node-addr]=
]"
for {set i 3} {$i < $opt(wirelessNodes)+3} {incr i} {
   puts "mobile($i) =3D [$mobile($i) node-addr] =3D [AddrParams addr2id
[$mobile($i) node-addr]]"
}
puts ""
$host(0) color blue
$host(1) color blue
$gw(0) color red
$host(0) shape box
$host(1) shape box
$gw(0) shape hexagon
$ns at 0.0 "$host(0) label \"HOST 0\""
$ns at 0.0 "$host(1) label \"HOST 1\""
$ns at 0.0 "$gw(0) label GATEWAY"
for {set i 3} {$i < $opt(wirelessNodes)+3} {incr i} {
   $ns at 0.0 "$mobile($i) label \"MN $i\""
}
#create links between wired nodes and gateway node
$ns duplex-link $host(0) $host(1) 5Mb 2ms DropTail
$ns duplex-link $host(1) $gw(0) 5Mb 2ms DropTail
$ns duplex-link-op $host(0) $host(1) orient right
$ns duplex-link-op $host(1) $gw(0) orient right-up
#---------------------
#Setup Traffic
#---------------------
#MN5 =3D=3D> HOST1
set src [new Agent/UDP]
set dst [new Agent/Null]
$ns attach-agent $host(1) $src
$ns attach-agent $mobile(5) $dst
#$src set fid_ 0
$ns connect $src $dst
set cbr [new Application/Traffic/CBR]
$cbr attach-agent $src
$cbr set packetSize_ 512
$cbr set interval_ 0.1
$ns at $val(start-src) "$cbr start"
$ns at $val(stop-src) "$cbr stop"
$ns at $val(start-src) "$ns trace-annotate \"MN 5 =3D=3D> HOST 1 at
t=3D$val(start-src) s!\""
#---------------------
#Setup Node Movement
#---------------------
$ns at 0.5 "$mobile(5) setdest 100 450 10"
$ns at 0.5 "$ns trace-annotate \"MN 5 starts moving at t=3D0.5 s.\""
$ns at 0.5 "$mobile(5) add-mark m1 green circle"
#-----------------------------------
#Define Node Initial Position In Nam
#-----------------------------------
#20 defines the node size in nam, must adjust it according to your
#The function must be called after mobility model is defined
for {set i 3} {$i < $opt(wirelessNodes)+3} {incr i} {
   $ns initial_node_pos $mobile($i) 20
}
#-----------------------------------
#Tell Nodes When The Simulation Ends
#-----------------------------------
for {set i 3} {$i < $opt(wirelessNodes)+3} {incr i} {
   $ns at $val(stop).0 "$mobile($i) reset";
}
$ns at $val(stop).0 "$gw(0) reset";
$ns at $val(stop).0001 "stop"
$ns at $val(stop).0002 "puts \"NS EXITING...\" ; $ns halt"
proc stop {} {
   global ns nstrace namtrace opt
   $ns flush-trace
   close $nstrace
   close $namtrace
   exec nam $opt(namfile) &
   exit 0
}
puts "Starting simulation..."
$ns at 0.0 "$ns set-animation-rate 5ms"
$ns run

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Thanks & Best Regards,

Zhang Wen Zhi(=D5=C5=CE=C4=D6=CE)
Tel: 086-1358-161-4504