From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Mon Dec 2 05:58:04 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621DC1AE015; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 05:58:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rM8YXTmzwAPT; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 05:58:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661F91AE49E; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 05:57:52 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.83.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20131202135752.16527.85414.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 05:57:52 -0800 Cc: manet chair , manet mailing list , RFC Editor Subject: [manet] Protocol Action: 'Integrity Check Value and Timestamp TLV Definitions for Mobile Ad Hoc Networks (MANETs)' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-manet-rfc6622-bis-06.txt) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 13:58:04 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Integrity Check Value and Timestamp TLV Definitions for Mobile Ad Hoc Networks (MANETs)' (draft-ietf-manet-rfc6622-bis-06.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Adrian Farrel and Stewart Bryant. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-rfc6622-bis/ Technical Summary This document revises, extends and replaces RFC 6622. It describes general and flexible TLVs for representing cryptographic Integrity Check Values (ICVs) and timestamps, using the generalized Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) packet/message format defined in RFC 5444. It defines two Packet TLVs, two Message TLVs, and two Address Block TLVs for affixing ICVs and timestamps to a packet, a message, and one or more addresses, respectively. Working Group Summary Working group consensus behind the document is solid. There is strong consensus within a set of members in the working group that this revision is needed. Document Quality The document has received careful review. There are several implementations of the document. The document was updated after IETF last call. Personnel The Document Shepherd is Joseph Macker (jpmacker@gmail.com) The responsible AD is Adrian Farrel IANA Note In addition to the IANA actions noted in this document, IANA is requested to replace references to RFC 6622 from within the registries with a reference to this document when it is published as an RFC. From bebemaster@gmail.com Wed Dec 4 09:42:46 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59621AE307 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:42:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.989 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.989 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_FREEMAIL_DOC_PDF=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id joFmUAf28h6u for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:42:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-la0-x233.google.com (mail-la0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::233]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E021AE304 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:42:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-la0-f51.google.com with SMTP id ec20so9689872lab.24 for ; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 09:42:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uoQ024n+eCUmKz7EaaZf8MHn7F0IorL4b79rCsn194E=; b=lNt0UG/78F0i6L3W8JKXSJRWubK3jeFSLBXRIhWGX08q1S5xVoj8MWQYp30fWct3dy FMvH/0uqX4/cHxTgRhhgZIIC6Yn8dkmCmgFwgwMLp7GAFtJh2M5EA2wS/l8ecAlgQCwv HOzX3BOJAq52A8HaWbEnAGlOszfDxfv4PhpSjalf6hMT3/ftSzrUi4Tu9EP1nlEKAOIZ v8nuwLAS2HkcCUFxYC5OrKb1gfXXJJnbYyDRvOfZ4egvw7fhMnB03TuaC6J8Q9MY4cYE 6ay0bdmJwIKXqxJsedB0KrujJVXXSc+SOEnbehmNPfF88QBMEd6DE/gsn34MkTlj+ai0 /TyA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.131.197 with SMTP id oo5mr105141lbb.77.1386178960859; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 09:42:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.134.18 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:42:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 12:42:40 -0500 Message-ID: From: Justin Dean To: Thomas Heide Clausen , "manet@ietf.org" , Christopher Dearlove Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=047d7b3434e28ebb7504ecb8f076 Subject: [manet] Routing MPR Optimization for OLSRv2 review X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 17:42:46 -0000 --047d7b3434e28ebb7504ecb8f076 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3434e28ebb7104ecb8f074 --047d7b3434e28ebb7104ecb8f074 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have attached my review for the MPR Optimization draft. 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188.103.106.178 Subject: [manet] AODVv2 5.5. Sequence Numbers restructuring X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 17:59:44 -0000 Hello, following Charlie's call for comments on the AODVv2 draft, I'd like to = start a discussion on 5.5 Sequence Numbers, a small section that proved = to be a bit cumbersome when I wanted to implement it. (To my eyes, the = general structure of the draft and specific details of particular = sections are two seperate issues that should also be discussed = seperately. While a complete restructuring is out of my scope (?), I'm = trying to tackle small bits as I go along. ) To my mind, the wording is very hard to grasp when you're not equipped = with previous knowledge from, for example, RFC3561 or the LOADng draft. = It took me several E-Mails back and forth with Charlie to understand how = exactly aodvv2s Sequence Numbers are supposed to work, so I've tried to = restructure section 5.5 in a way that I think could be more plausible to = "rookie" readers. Charlie was so kind as to smoothen out the wording. The structure I had in mind was the following: 5.5. Sequence Numbers Sequence Numbers allow AODVv2 routers to evaluate the freshness of routing information. Each AODVv2 router in the network MUST maintain = one=20 single sequence number. Each RREQ and RREQ generated by an AODVv2=20 router includes its sequence number. Each AODVv2 router MUST make sure that its sequence number is=20 unique and monotonically increasing. This can be achieved by = incrementing it with every RREQ or RREP it generates. Every router receiving a RREQ or RREP can thus use the Sequence = Number of a RREQ or RREP as information concerning the freshness of the = packet's route update: If the new packet's Sequence Number is lower than the one already = stored in the=20 routing table, its information is considered stale. As a consequence, loop freedom is assured. An AODVv2 router increments its SeqNum as follows. Most of the time, SeqNum is incremented by simply adding one (1). But to increment SeqNum when it has the value of the largest possible number representable as a 16-bit unsigned integer (i.e., 65,535), it MUST be set to one (1). In other words, the sequence number after 65,535 is 1. An AODVv2 router SHOULD maintain its SeqNum in persistent storage. If an AODVv2 router's SeqNum is lost, it MUST take the following actions to avoid the danger of routing loops. First, the AODVv2 router MUST invalidate all route table entries, by setting Route.Broken for each entry. Furthermore the AODVv2 router MUST wait for at least MAX_SEQNUM_LIFETIME before transmitting or retransmitting any AODVv2 RREQ or RREP messages. If an AODVv2 protocol message is received during this waiting period, the AODVv2 router SHOULD perform normal route table entry updates, but not forward the message to other nodes. If a data packet is received for forwarding to another destination during this waiting period, the AODVv2 router MUST transmit a RERR message indicating that no route is available. At the end of the waiting period the AODVv2 router sets its SeqNum to one (1) and begins performing AODVv2 protocol operations again.=20 Additionally, I think it would make sense to adjust the description of = Route.SeqNum=20 in 5.1. Route Table Entry: Route.SeqNum The Sequence Number associated with destination of the route, as obtained from the last packet that updated the route table entry Again, any feedback would be greatly appreciated. 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From charles.perkins@earthlink.net Wed Dec 11 11:12:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950981AE100 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 11:12:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.401 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.401 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, J_CHICKENPOX_56=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F7JGmzrn_MUz for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 11:12:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F161AE0A3 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 11:12:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Gv7lmcrl95dtBxTsZJPl3m1+IIDBH+zNMW3zm3NMx5LaZDDs2e7TKwOsC7TQR/fQ; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [107.1.141.74] (helo=[192.168.254.1]) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VqpCg-00023i-TA; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 14:12:15 -0500 Message-ID: <52A8B90B.5010300@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 11:12:11 -0800 From: Charlie Perkins User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lotte Steenbrink , manet@ietf.org References: <9F7142E4-D525-433D-A1D0-D23DF88E12A6@fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <9F7142E4-D525-433D-A1D0-D23DF88E12A6@fu-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 137d7d78656ed6919973fd6a8f21c4f2d780f4a490ca6956d5d4673fe7faad861afcf2da3538f44cd177d97ec6667be5350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 107.1.141.74 Subject: Re: [manet] AODVv2 5.5. Sequence Numbers restructuring X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 19:12:23 -0000 Hello Lotte, Thanks for your observations on the explanation for sequence numbers. I think your suggestions read well, and I expect to incorporate them into the next revision of the AODVv2 draft. Regards, Charlie P. On 12/4/2013 9:59 AM, Lotte Steenbrink wrote: > Hello, > following Charlie's call for comments on the AODVv2 draft, I'd like to start a discussion on 5.5 Sequence Numbers, a small section that proved to be a bit cumbersome when I wanted to implement it. (To my eyes, the general structure of the draft and specific details of particular sections are two seperate issues that should also be discussed seperately. While a complete restructuring is out of my scope (?), I'm trying to tackle small bits as I go along. ) > > To my mind, the wording is very hard to grasp when you're not equipped with previous knowledge from, for example, RFC3561 or the LOADng draft. It took me several E-Mails back and forth with Charlie to understand how exactly aodvv2s Sequence Numbers are supposed to work, so I've tried to restructure section 5.5 in a way that I think could be more plausible to "rookie" readers. Charlie was so kind as to smoothen out the wording. > > The structure I had in mind was the following: > > > > > > > 5.5. Sequence Numbers > > Sequence Numbers allow AODVv2 routers to evaluate the freshness of > routing information. Each AODVv2 router in the network MUST maintain one > single sequence number. Each RREQ and RREQ generated by an AODVv2 > router includes its sequence number. > Each AODVv2 router MUST make sure that its sequence number is > unique and monotonically increasing. This can be achieved by incrementing it > with every RREQ or RREP it generates. > > Every router receiving a RREQ or RREP can thus use the Sequence Number > of a RREQ or RREP as information concerning the freshness of the packet's route update: > If the new packet's Sequence Number is lower than the one already stored in the > routing table, its information is considered stale. > > As a consequence, loop freedom is assured. > > An AODVv2 router increments its SeqNum as follows. Most of > the time, SeqNum is incremented by simply adding one (1). But to > increment SeqNum when it has the value of the largest possible number > representable as a 16-bit unsigned integer (i.e., 65,535), it MUST be > set to one (1). In other words, the sequence number after 65,535 is > 1. > > An AODVv2 router SHOULD maintain its SeqNum in persistent storage. > If an AODVv2 router's SeqNum is lost, it MUST take the following > actions to avoid the danger of routing loops. First, the AODVv2 > router MUST invalidate all route table entries, by setting > Route.Broken for each entry. Furthermore the AODVv2 router MUST wait > for at least MAX_SEQNUM_LIFETIME before transmitting or > retransmitting any AODVv2 RREQ or RREP messages. If an AODVv2 > protocol message is received during this waiting period, the AODVv2 > router SHOULD perform normal route table entry updates, but not > forward the message to other nodes. If a data packet is received for > forwarding to another destination during this waiting period, the > AODVv2 router MUST transmit a RERR message indicating that no route > is available. At the end of the waiting period the AODVv2 router > sets its SeqNum to one (1) and begins performing AODVv2 protocol > operations again. > > Additionally, I think it would make sense to adjust the description of Route.SeqNum > in 5.1. Route Table Entry: > > Route.SeqNum > The Sequence Number associated with destination of the > route, as obtained from the last packet that updated the > route table entry > > Again, any feedback would be greatly appreciated. > > With kind regards, > Lotte Steenbrink > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > From charles.perkins@earthlink.net Wed Dec 11 11:16:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846701ADFCA for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 11:16:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i8gkGTHYndAG for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 11:16:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE211ADBCD for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 11:16:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=U65w7zIe9sVNMkjt40TAyGTHm4iE3dixUl91v5HankZ/y5v7ROiMjY5MbvDBTRg+; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [107.1.141.74] (helo=[192.168.254.1]) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VqpGr-0000CQ-6w; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 14:16:33 -0500 Message-ID: <52A8BA0D.8000205@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 11:16:29 -0800 From: Charlie Perkins User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mobile Ad Hoc Networks mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 137d7d78656ed6919973fd6a8f21c4f2d780f4a490ca6956d5d4673fe7faad86b7682d3ac8e75e2bce0e39719626f020350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 107.1.141.74 Cc: John Dowdell , Stan Ratliff Subject: [manet] Simplifying AODVv2 by deleting specification for additional routing information X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 19:16:40 -0000 Hello folks, There does not seem to be much reason to maintain the support for source routing in AODVv2. It is not being implemented, although it was *mandated* for inclusion by the general agreement when the Proposed Standard protocols were to be written and promulgated. Source routing was, during collaboration with the proponents, slightly generalized to be "additional routing information", leading to the language as it is now in the specification. I suggest that we delete this feature if there are no objections. Regards, Charlie P.