On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 4:56 AM, Charlie Perkin= s <charles.perkins@earthlink.net> wrote:

=20 =20 =20
<snip> The case for removing RREP_ACK is to simplify the protocol.

The case for including RREP_ACK is to have an AODVv2-specific
mechanism and, along the way, to enable better compatibility
with previous approaches.

<= snip>

Maybe I missed something here. By sa= ying "better compatibility with previous approaches", do you mean RFC 3561?<= /div>

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[132.250.217.206]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t14sm14378702qge.33.2014.06.10.13.24.07 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:24:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Macker Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_ECD0488A-1B7D-4C47-B593-1C8241F672CE" Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 16:22:28 -0400 References: To: "" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/88axbvo_tJzGUUJ3kAQdLFvhLgY Subject: [manet] Fwd: Improving and Restructuring the Routing Area X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:24:13 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_ECD0488A-1B7D-4C47-B593-1C8241F672CE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Forwarding Alia=92s message to WG.=20 Begin forwarded message: >=20 > Could you please forward to your working groups for those not on = routing-discussion? >=20 > Thanks, > Alia >=20 > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Alia Atlas > Date: Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 3:57 PM > Subject: Improving and Restructuring the Routing Area > To: routing-discussion@ietf.org >=20 >=20 > To all participants in the Routing Area, >=20 > Adrian and I are working on improving the quality, speed, and > experience of getting work done in the IETF Routing Area. There are > three initiatives that we are working: WG Draft QA, Routing Area > specific WG chair training, and reorganizing the working groups in the > area. >=20 > First, we intend to use our Routing Directorate more proactively by > introducing a Working Group Draft Quality Assurance (WG Draft QA) > process where the same selected routing directorate member will review > a draft during WG draft adoption and during WG last call. The process > will be documented on the Routing Area wiki > (http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki). This should allow > directorate reviews to report technical issues that can actually get > fixed early in the process (equivalent of bug reports) as opposed to > just noting the concerns in the drafts (equivalent of release notes). >=20 > Second, as was discussed during the recent IESG retreat, in addition > to the IETF-wide WG chair training, we intend to have a series of > training sessions for WG Chairs in the Routing Area addressing topics > such as judging consensus, project management, motivating volunteers, > using the datatracker (via a sandbox version that can be played > with safely), and sharing experiences between WG chairs. >=20 > Third, we intend to reorganize the working groups in the Routing area. > We feel that it is important to focus on areas where there is active > interest in standardization and to be open and able to accept new work > into the area. As you know, we have had several new working groups > (nvo3, i2rs, sfc, spring) created in the last few years and we need to > be open and able to handle more new work as it comes in. We would > also like to improve the signal-to-noise ratio experienced by > participants in the different working groups and improve the quantity > and quality of discussion and reviews. It is likely that not all WGs > in the Routing Area will be directly affected. >=20 > Here is the time-line for reorganizing the WGs. >=20 > NOW: public discussion on routing-discussion@ietf.org about how to > reorganize the working groups to best meet our motivations. > Additional focused discussions are expected on the > rtg-chairs@ietf.org and rtg-dir@ietf.org mailing lists. >=20 > In Toronto: There will be meetings with the WG chairs and the > Routing Directorate to get the ideas described and agreed upon. >=20 > At the Routing Area Meeting in Toronto: Discuss the set of > reorganized WGs and general charter content in the Routing Area > meeting. >=20 > September 2014: Based upon the feedback, suggestions, and > discussion, Adrian and I finalize the reorganized WG charters. We > start the internal IESG discussion and public reviews. >=20 > October 2014: Formal rechartering process completes. >=20 > In Honolulu: The new set of WGs meet. >=20 > After Honolulu: Adrian and I deal with any issues and charter > updates based upon a few months of experience. >=20 > Here are the motivations that Adrian and I would like to be considered > when coming up with ideas for how the WGs should be reorganized. >=20 > 1) Move towards organizing working groups on functional > responsibilities rather than scoping them to specific protocols. >=20 > 2) Split giant working groups so relevant work is done in one place > and there is an improved signal-to-noise ratio for participants who > are only interested in a slice of the current working group's work. >=20 > 3) Create synergies for scattered functionality (example ideas: > OAM, FRR, traffic-engineering) >=20 > 4) Create a DISPATCH working group for clear new idea discussion; > rtgwg serves some of this purpose but doesn't have a clear process > and isn't drawing in the new ideas. >=20 > 5) Focus Routing Area time on design centers rather than on far > corner cases. >=20 > 6) Each working group should have clear, well defined, and = achievable goals. >=20 > Noting that the Routing Area has inherited some of its WG structure > from the sub-IP area, it is not a goal to force IP routing and MPLS > routing to remain separated. >=20 > The goal of this reorganization is not closing working groups. Adrian > and Alia are perfectly capable of closing working groups without going > through restructuring. >=20 > For those of you that have read this far, thank you. Getting this 80% > right is going to take some serious discussion and thought. We all > work in the Routing Area together with different perspectives. Please > think carefully and help us have a highly focused discussion. >=20 > Thanks, > Alia and Adrian >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_ECD0488A-1B7D-4C47-B593-1C8241F672CE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Forwarding Alia=92s message to = WG.

Begin forwarded = message:

Could = you please forward to your working groups for those not on = routing-discussion?

Thanks,
Alia

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: = Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 3:57 PM
Subject: Improving and = Restructuring the Routing Area
To: routing-discussion@ietf.org

To all participants in the Routing = Area,

Adrian and I are working on improving the quality, = speed, and
experience of getting work done in the IETF Routing = Area. There are

three initiatives that we are working: WG Draft QA, Routing = Area
specific WG chair training, and reorganizing the working = groups in the
area.

First, we intend = to use our Routing Directorate more proactively by

introducing a Working Group Draft Quality Assurance (WG Draft = QA)
process where the same selected routing directorate member = will review
a draft during WG draft adoption and during WG = last call. The process

will be documented on the Routing Area wiki
(http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki). = This should allow
directorate reviews to report = technical issues that can actually get

fixed early in the process (equivalent of bug reports) as opposed = to
just noting the concerns in the drafts (equivalent of = release notes).

Second, as was discussed during = the recent IESG retreat, in addition

to the IETF-wide WG chair training, we intend to have a series = of
training sessions for WG Chairs in the Routing Area = addressing topics
such as judging consensus, project = management, motivating volunteers,

using the datatracker (via a sandbox version that can be = played
with safely), and sharing experiences between WG = chairs.

Third, we intend to reorganize the = working groups in the Routing area.

We feel that it is important to focus on areas where there is = active
interest in standardization and to be open and able to = accept new work
into the area. As you know, we have had = several new working groups

(nvo3, i2rs, sfc, spring) created in the last few years and we need = to
be open and able to handle more new work as it comes in. = We would
also like to improve the signal-to-noise ratio = experienced by

participants in the different working groups and improve the = quantity
and quality of discussion and reviews. It is = likely that not all WGs
in the Routing Area will be directly = affected.

Here is the time-line for reorganizing the = WGs.

NOW: public discussion on routing-discussion@ietf.org about how to

reorganize the working groups to best meet our = motivations.

Additional focused discussions are expected on = the
rtg-chairs@ietf.org and rtg-dir@ietf.org = mailing lists.

In Toronto: There will be meetings with the WG = chairs and the
Routing Directorate to get the = ideas described and agreed upon.

= At the Routing Area Meeting in Toronto: Discuss the set of

reorganized WGs and general charter content in the = Routing Area
= meeting.

September 2014: = Based upon the feedback, suggestions, and
= discussion, Adrian and I finalize the reorganized WG charters. = We

start the internal IESG discussion and public = reviews.

October 2014: Formal = rechartering process completes.

In = Honolulu: The new set of WGs meet.

After Honolulu: Adrian and I deal with any = issues and charter
updates based upon a few = months of experience.

Here are the motivations = that Adrian and I would like to be considered

when coming up with ideas for how the WGs should be = reorganized.

1) Move towards = organizing working groups on functional
= responsibilities rather than scoping them to specific = protocols.

2) Split giant working groups so = relevant work is done in one place
and there is = an improved signal-to-noise ratio for participants who
= are only interested in a slice of the current working group's = work.

3) Create synergies for scattered = functionality (example ideas:
OAM, FRR, = traffic-engineering)

4) Create a = DISPATCH working group for clear new idea discussion;

rtgwg serves some of this purpose but doesn't have a = clear process
and isn't drawing in the new = ideas.

5) Focus Routing Area time = on design centers rather than on far

corner cases.

6) = Each working group should have clear, well defined, and achievable = goals.

Noting that the Routing Area has = inherited some of its WG structure

from the sub-IP area, it is not a goal to force IP routing and = MPLS
routing to remain separated.

The = goal of this reorganization is not closing working groups. = Adrian
and Alia are perfectly capable of closing working = groups without going

through restructuring.

For those of you = that have read this far, thank you. Getting this = 80%
right is going to take some serious discussion and = thought. We all
work in the Routing Area together with = different perspectives. Please

think carefully and help us have a highly focused = discussion.

Thanks,
Alia and = Adrian

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For further information, please contact the guest editors at comcomsi_osn at iit.cnr.it From nobody Wed Jun 11 23:58:56 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B946B1A0549 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 23:58:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.802 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.802 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Te6HyUglv0MZ for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 23:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from a.mx.fkie.fraunhofer.de (mailguard.fkie.fraunhofer.de [128.7.3.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6BA51A04B0 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 23:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rufsun5.fkie.fraunhofer.de ([128.7.2.5] helo=mailhost.fkie.fraunhofer.de) by a.mx.fkie.fraunhofer.de with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuyyH-0003U2-51 for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:58:49 +0200 Received: from mailserv2bcas.fkie.fraunhofer.de ([128.7.96.56] helo=mailserv2.fkie.fraunhofer.de) by mailhost.fkie.fraunhofer.de with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WuyyH-000697-1b for manet@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:58:49 +0200 Received: from [128.7.5.36] (128.7.5.36) by MAILSERV2BCAS.lorien.fkie.fgan.de (128.7.96.58) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.247.3; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:58:49 +0200 Message-ID: <53994FA2.8010107@fkie.fraunhofer.de> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:58:42 +0200 From: Henning Rogge User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "manet@ietf.org" X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010105090304010303040208" X-Originating-IP: [128.7.5.36] X-Virus-Scanned: yes (ClamAV 0.98.1/19087/Thu Jun 12 03:02:24 2014) by a.mx.fkie.fraunhofer.de X-Scan-Signature: dad17b0fa7a976ea34f8545b3e71195d Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/Iz8HHEpaQ-TCiMOecL9pN7X8Rb8 Subject: [manet] Thoughts on DLEP with Mac802.11 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 06:58:55 -0000 --------------ms010105090304010303040208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am still working on building a full DLEP-capable radio with Mac80211 hardware. The problem is, as some of us discussed in London, that Adhoc mode of Mac802.11 does not have enough mac-addresses in the header, so it cannot be used for bridging easily. Yes, I got it working with some "creative" mac address scheme and an OpenVSwitch based bridge. Yes, Stan was right that this is ugly as hell. But luckily I found a replacement... 802.11s! 802.11s use 5/6 mac addresses per frame, so you can easily bridge ethernet frames through a 802.11s wireless connection. It is also full "adhoc" without any master node. AND it doesn't try to do a global TSF synchronization as Adhoc mode is doing. There is a setting for 802.11s called "mesh_fwding" in Linux (it is also part of the 802.11s standard document, no Linux specifics involved). If you set this parameter to '0' the mesh node is not allowed to forward on layer-2 anymore, both protocol traffic and user traffic. If you set this parameter to '0' on ALL nodes of the mesh, you get a better Adhoc mode without the problems of 802.11s (the meshing). What do you think? 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List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:31:16 -0000 Wouldn't that still produce mesh management frames, link tracking, and benefits like mesh beacon collision avoidance? Do you worry about interference from those subsystems? Or should that switch imply disabling everything? > On Jun 11, 2014, at 11:58 PM, Henning Rogge wrote: > > Hi, > > I am still working on building a full DLEP-capable radio with Mac80211 > hardware. > > The problem is, as some of us discussed in London, that Adhoc mode of > Mac802.11 does not have enough mac-addresses in the header, so it cannot > be used for bridging easily. > > Yes, I got it working with some "creative" mac address scheme and an > OpenVSwitch based bridge. > > Yes, Stan was right that this is ugly as hell. > > > But luckily I found a replacement... 802.11s! > > 802.11s use 5/6 mac addresses per frame, so you can easily bridge > ethernet frames through a 802.11s wireless connection. It is also full > "adhoc" without any master node. AND it doesn't try to do a global TSF > synchronization as Adhoc mode is doing. > > There is a setting for 802.11s called "mesh_fwding" in Linux (it is also > part of the 802.11s standard document, no Linux specifics involved). > > If you set this parameter to '0' the mesh node is not allowed to forward > on layer-2 anymore, both protocol traffic and user traffic. > > If you set this parameter to '0' on ALL nodes of the mesh, you get a > better Adhoc mode without the problems of 802.11s (the meshing). > > What do you think? > > Henning Rogge > > -- > Diplom-Informatiker Henning Rogge , Fraunhofer-Institut f=C3=BCr > Kommunikation, Informationsverarbeitung und Ergonomie FKIE > Kommunikationssysteme (KOM) > Fraunhofer Stra=C3=9Fe 20, 53343 Wachtberg, Germany > Telefon +49 228 9435-961, Fax +49 228 9435 685 > mailto:henning.rogge@fkie.fraunhofer.de http://www.fkie.fraunhofer.de > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From nobody Thu Jun 12 00:37:42 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6E31A021E for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 00:37:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VWwDTEXJdLlz for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 00:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qc0-x22f.google.com (mail-qc0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1670B1A001D for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 00:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id i8so1343681qcq.34 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 00:37:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=W0ZzOkSlS/3Z1lNe5DXH77s8iiBF1N4BueIHkvReP+w=; b=NkshdFGDX8VdgE/LYoABpiE+Nt20DAHyKM9afZwrDep+aMl5hngGly8c9grpeje+8l rXH5wjuvjHK4N0ir12sWzIB7s0DxWSEaYwZnfN1cTyUGEl5M3+TNHzhkRgq6RF5ZeoDa +Ul8kh9ShD86tLOSIU0ERERWPtXxl5KS+SixBwqJrECVvx6xWsYntrCiX6pLyrVqfqgJ 4GaW513DOw+yvfgRmtNE61NZMDZA5GAknt3BmsVwdBw/AJXqnQLWNcWX3WoatN5FI/yt BJTBaUw+n58SBiKnkXulr/e6ctMsbZLf+fMioUEinaD/kePP6dLhMFqQwuXukps98cFd ZFFA== X-Received: by 10.140.102.79 with SMTP id v73mr5174359qge.8.1402558658167; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 00:37:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.112.71 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2014 00:37:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3269389129189208386@unknownmsgid> References: <53994FA2.8010107@fkie.fraunhofer.de> <3269389129189208386@unknownmsgid> From: Henning Rogge Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 09:37:17 +0200 Message-ID: To: "A .Riley Eller" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/79s_3ntxUL8hlTI76ta1t2lrt7U Cc: "manet@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [manet] Thoughts on DLEP with Mac802.11 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:37:40 -0000 On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 9:31 AM, A .Riley Eller wrote: > Wouldn't that still produce mesh management frames, link tracking, and > benefits like mesh beacon collision avoidance? Yes, but I don't see a drawback in this. Management frames are not forwarded anymore beyond the first hop, so the overhead is not that large. We might even be able to use the powersaving features of 802.11s by feeding the driver with knowledge from userspace! Henning Rogge From nobody Fri Jun 20 05:46:36 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC5D1B27C4 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 05:46:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.651 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.651 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ezo-TGNWLTbj for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 05:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ukmta3.baesystems.com (ukmta3.baesystems.com [20.133.40.55]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EEE61B27B7 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 05:46:30 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,513,1400022000"; d="scan'208,217";a="380820670" Received: from unknown (HELO baemasodc005.greenlnk.net) ([10.108.52.29]) by Baemasodc001ir.sharelnk.net with ESMTP; 20 Jun 2014 13:46:29 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos; i="5.01,513,1400022000"; d="scan'208,217"; a="61937594" Received: from glkxh0005v.greenlnk.net ([10.109.2.36]) by baemasodc005.greenlnk.net with ESMTP; 20 Jun 2014 13:46:28 +0100 Received: from GLKXM0002V.GREENLNK.net ([169.254.5.60]) by GLKXH0005V.GREENLNK.net ([10.109.2.36]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 13:46:28 +0100 From: "Dearlove, Christopher (UK)" To: "manet@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: NHDP optimisation Thread-Index: Ac+MhOALUU83AFW5T6KGjLoRabjTdg== Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 12:46:27 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.109.62.6] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_B31EEDDDB8ED7E4A93FDF12A4EECD30D402F5856GLKXM0002VGREEN_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/H_DxCmb8JthyymHWK87x5Rq55VY Subject: [manet] NHDP optimisation X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 12:46:35 -0000 --_000_B31EEDDDB8ED7E4A93FDF12A4EECD30D402F5856GLKXM0002VGREEN_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The new ID message for version -01 of this draft will hit this list very sh= ortly. 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Thanks Ulrich From nobody Mon Jun 23 11:36:51 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A621B2C42; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:36:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 534iYOjCUgTA; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF85C1B2C70; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:35:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.5.0.p3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140623183542.5593.75691.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:35:42 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/X1sFTqaAyU60B9Rw6xhLVJL8980 Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology-01.txt X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:36:48 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group of the IETF. Title : Multi-Topology Extension for the Optimized Link State Routing Protocol version 2 (OLSRv2) Authors : Christopher Dearlove Thomas Heide Clausen Filename : draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology-01.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2014-06-23 Abstract: This specification describes an extension to the Optimized Link State Routing Protocol version 2 (OLSRv2) to support multiple routing topologies, while retaining interoperability with OLSRv2 routers that do not implement this extension. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Jun 25 09:02:03 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074431B2D45; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 09:02:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iJiZhcvQd-cv; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 09:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC35D1B2D4A; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 09:01:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.5.0.p3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140625160155.24630.24269.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 09:01:55 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/2Lzi1h9MDntrbtbpz2R8liMwHaM Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology-02.txt X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 16:02:00 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group of the IETF. Title : Multi-Topology Extension for the Optimized Link State Routing Protocol version 2 (OLSRv2) Authors : Christopher Dearlove Thomas Heide Clausen Filename : draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology-02.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2014-06-25 Abstract: This specification describes an extension to the Optimized Link State Routing Protocol version 2 (OLSRv2) to support multiple routing topologies, while retaining interoperability with OLSRv2 routers that do not implement this extension. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Jun 27 02:27:28 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C801B2F44 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 02:27:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HNA-jzNQ5XR1 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 02:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ukmta3.baesystems.com (ukmta3.baesystems.com [20.133.40.55]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 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Jun 2014 13:00:58 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2A1221CE-7E3D-42E7-A5B7-7A1C102F6F61@thomasclausen.org> References: <20140626164919.24911.50872.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: "Dearlove, Christopher (UK)" Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/776U2QQv_9Xy7es7Pslk9Fqv9Pk Cc: "manet-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "manet-ads@tools.ietf.org" , "manet@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [manet] FW: New Version Notification for draft-dearlove-manet-ibs-00.txt X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 11:01:17 -0000 > On 27 Jun 2014, at 11:27, "Dearlove, Christopher (UK)" wrote: >=20 > I obviously haven't got this configured to be automatically posted here, s= o here it is. >=20 > I'd like to ask our chairs to put this up for consideration as a WG item. T= here's also a request in to present it in Toronto. >=20 Having quickly read this through (I am the one person actually reading I-D-a= nnounce@ietf.org, so I saw it when it came out), it looks interesting, and a= straight-forward use of RFC7182 that'd be useful to have written up and to h= ave codepoints assigned for. I'd probably want to see a few nits picked in the document (my quick read-th= rough identified a handful already), but that can easily be done as part of t= he process when the document is adopted as a WG item. Which is also to say, that I STRONGLY support that it be adopted as such, as= well as presented in Toronto (in that order, actually). > (Also with them are requests to put multitopology up for WGLC and NHDP opt= imisation as a WG item, both just reissued IDs - the former twice, first to g= et editorial stuff in, the second to add an experiment section.) I can only emphasize Chris' request for these two being advanced in the proc= ess, also. Thomas > Christopher >=20 > --=20 > Christopher Dearlove > Senior Principal Engineer, Communications Group > Communications, Networks and Image Analysis Capability > BAE Systems Advanced Technology Centre > West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK > Tel: +44 1245 242194 | Fax: +44 1245 242124 > chris.dearlove@baesystems.com | http://www.baesystems.com >=20 > BAE Systems (Operations) Limited > Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre,= Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK > Registered in England & Wales No: 1996687 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org]=20 > Sent: 26 June 2014 17:49 > To: Dearlove, Christopher (UK); Dearlove, Christopher (UK) > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-dearlove-manet-ibs-00.txt >=20 > ----------------------! WARNING ! ---------------------- This message orig= inates from outside our organisation, either from an external partner or fro= m the internet. > Consider carefully whether you should click on any links, open any attachm= ents or reply. > Follow the 'Report Suspicious Emails' link on IT matters for instructions o= n reporting suspicious email messages. > -------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > A new version of I-D, draft-dearlove-manet-ibs-00.txt has been successfull= y submitted by Christopher Dearlove and posted to the IETF repository. >=20 > Name: draft-dearlove-manet-ibs > Revision: 00 > Title: Identity-Based Signatures for MANET Routing Protocols > Document date: 2014-06-26 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 10 > URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dearlove-manet-i= bs-00.txt > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dearlove-manet-ibs/= > Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dearlove-manet-ibs-00 >=20 >=20 > Abstract: > This document extends [RFC7182], which specifies a framework for, and > specific examples of, integrity check values (ICVs) for packets and > messages using the generalized packet/message format specified in > [RFC5444]. It does so by defining an additional cryptographic > function that allows the creation of an ICV that is an identity-based > signature, defined according to the ECCSI (Elliptic Curve-Based > Certificateless Signatures for Identity-Based Encryption) algorithm > specified in [RFC6507]. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissi= on until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > The IETF Secretariat >=20 > ******************************************************************** > This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended > recipient and may also be privileged. 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Mon, 30 Jun 2014 08:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.tropicalstormsoftware.com (unknown [188.94.42.120]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2DBB1A0385; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 08:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tss-server1.home.tropicalstormsoftware.com ([fe80::753b:fa82:5c0:af0d]) by tss-server1.home.tropicalstormsoftware.com ([fe80::753b:fa82:5c0:af0d%10]) with mapi; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 16:18:14 +0100 From: Rick Taylor To: "manet-dlep-rg@ietf.org Group, (manet-dlep-rg@ietf.org)" , "manet@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: DLEP extension draft submitted Thread-Index: Ac+UdoLdV3wo4cv4Q02pO5+7vyBgsg== Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:18:13 +0000 Message-ID: <38A5475DE83986499AEACD2CFAFC3F98011399A404@tss-server1.home.tropicalstormsoftware.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-GB X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/KP4JooA06o1aAlgB1EbdgMhTB6o Subject: [manet] DLEP extension draft submitted X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:18:45 -0000 For those who are interested, =0A= =0A= We have just submitted an individual draft with a proposed extension to DLE= P for layer-3 forwarding modems: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-= taylor-manet-l3-dlep-00.txt=0A= =0A= We have a slot at IETF90 to present and field any questions.=0A= =0A= Of course, any feedback on the list is always welcome.=0A= =0A= Regards,=0A= =0A= Rick Taylor=0A= From nobody Mon Jun 30 12:11:25 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D7B1A03DA for ; 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charset=UTF-8 Chris/All: There has been a request to adopt draft-dearlove-manet-ibs-00.txt as a WG document. Please review and comment regarding opinions to adopt. The presentation request of this document is also approved for Toronto. URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dearlove-manet-ibs-00.txt We will be collecting WG comments on this document for the next 2 weeks prior to making an adoption decision. -Joe --001a11c2f6d08957eb04fd126c21 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Chris/All:

There has been a request to = adopt=C2=A0draft-dearlove-manet-ibs-00.txt as a WG document.

Plea= se review and comment regarding opinions to adopt.=C2=A0

The presentation request of this document is also approved for Toron= to.

URL: http://www.=
ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dearlove-manet-ibs-00.txt

We will be collecting WG comments on this document for the n= ext 2 weeks prior to making an adoption decision.

= -Joe

--001a11c2f6d08957eb04fd126c21-- From nobody Mon Jun 30 13:07:30 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346D91A037D for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 13:07:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DZG-SI4er181 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 13:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com (mail-wi0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE02D1A0149 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 13:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id n15so6635469wiw.5 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 13:07:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=LrqB26UDQC2XlYsrQXYSB/cZ3h1mqleqOg86SzGVjac=; b=Iiqdn1lp7CaqrpwbRp740NscCG4fgEaPKvPyLTThV8ApiuLhhKOdp0GV1hJqlTv8Fd QnClaKHT+iC74FaPmNDHJTbgsjsPeIBEfoYH99CIulTYcKwKvElcQRERk2jC1Q2GDyzq B2xVfOiG7YQU6Ds4Rj5QfXRc7de9XdRcDR1q38lOM9L1CytT85vaA+azhPOFc9rIEAnl 36FdVqhT4WMDjsAsZRKkdMYvC8mRXFx8I9xp3+fmK0Zd4dlHaqwZfqPXWSsA5tmAs8KQ z+dbYxfqDfoaf+WnffMNSShFfb+GF4FRW16W30BaZqyQo2+QjYgIbqcaC2IaWadEXqTi vhBw== X-Received: by 10.194.77.238 with SMTP id v14mr5742472wjw.103.1404158833516; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 13:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.254.1] (mnemosyne.demon.co.uk. [62.49.16.209]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gh16sm34939613wic.3.2014.06.30.13.07.12 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Jun 2014 13:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7B1E2054-9466-41A3-8472-F75E5B147C4D" From: Christopher Dearlove In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 21:07:11 +0100 Message-Id: References: To: Joseph Macker X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/manet/aZxK0Ve6ppIuX8uFmMk8OGohzX4 Cc: "Dearlove, Christopher \(UK\)" , "manet@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [manet] WG document adoption of draft-dearlove-manet-ibs-00.txt X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 20:07:20 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_7B1E2054-9466-41A3-8472-F75E5B147C4D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks for that. NHDP optimisation has been in the queue for a lot longer (in fact a = request for WG acceptance is older than that draft). It's had plenty of = time for comments, can we expedite that one please. Also MT-OLSRv2 for WG acceptance - as a reminder, as Experimental, not = Standards Track at this time. It has, as Adrian told us it would, got a = section saying "let's now do the experiments". Christopher On 30 Jun 2014, at 20:11, Joseph Macker wrote: > Chris/All: >=20 > There has been a request to adopt draft-dearlove-manet-ibs-00.txt as a = WG document. > Please review and comment regarding opinions to adopt.=20 >=20 > The presentation request of this document is also approved for = Toronto. > URL: = http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dearlove-manet-ibs-00.txt >=20 > We will be collecting WG comments on this document for the next 2 = weeks prior to making an adoption decision. >=20 > -Joe > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --Apple-Mail=_7B1E2054-9466-41A3-8472-F75E5B147C4D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Christopher

On 30 Jun 2014, at 20:11, Joseph Macker wrote:

Chris/All:

There has been a request to = adopt draft-dearlove-manet-ibs-00.txt as a WG = document.
Please review and comment regarding opinions to = adopt.

The presentation request of this = document is also approved for Toronto.
URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dearlove-manet-ibs-00.txt=
We will be collecting WG comments on this document for = the next 2 weeks prior to making an adoption = decision.

-Joe
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I omitted to say that unfortunately I won't be in Toronto, but Ulrich has kindly agreed to present this draft there.

(I'll be doing him some slides.)

Christopher

On 30 Jun 2014, at 20:11, Joseph Macker wrote:

Chris/All:

There has been a request to adopt draft-dearlove-manet-ibs-00.txt as a WG document.
Please review and comment regarding opinions to adopt.

The presentation request of this document is also approved for Toronto.
URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dearlove-manet-ibs-00.txt
We will be collecting WG comments on this document for the next 2 weeks prior to making an adoption decision.

-Joe
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