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Dear WG chairs, all:

In IETF 91, we have presented olsrv2-multipath and smf-sec-threats. During
the meeting, we requested WGLCs of those two documents.
We believe now it's the right time to kindly ask the WG chairs for WGLC on
the mailing list.

As a reminder, draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multipath is an multipath extension
of OLSRv2 aims for *experimental track*. The work behind this draft exists
almost a decade. It has 3 open source implementations, and has been used in
different testbeds and simulations.
We are also implementing the tests in a larger raspberry based testbed.
Therefore, we believe it would be extremely helpful to get more feedback
from the WG by initiating the WGLC :)
*We would request a bit longer WGLC period than normal for this document --
I believe 4 weeks would be good for leaving enough time for the WG
participants to give feedback on this document. *

The smf-sec-threats draft  is as what we did in RFC 7186 (Security Threats
for the NHDP). It is an informational draft and aims to identify the
security threats of SMF.
*We would request 2-week WGLC period for this document. *

regards

Jiazi

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Dear WG chairs, all:<div><br></div><div>In IETF 91, we hav=
e presented=C2=A0olsrv2-multipath and=C2=A0smf-sec-threats. During the meet=
ing, we requested WGLCs of those two documents.</div><div>We believe now it=
&#39;s the right time to kindly ask the WG chairs for WGLC on the mailing l=
ist.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>As a reminder,=C2=A0draft-ietf-manet-ol=
srv2-multipath is an multipath extension of OLSRv2 aims for <b>experimental=
 track</b>. The work behind this draft exists almost a decade. It has 3 ope=
n source implementations, and has been used in different testbeds and simul=
ations.=C2=A0</div><div>We are also implementing the tests in a larger rasp=
berry based testbed. Therefore, we believe it would be extremely helpful to=
 get more feedback from the WG by initiating the WGLC :)</div><div><b>We wo=
uld request a bit longer WGLC period than normal for this document -- I bel=
ieve 4 weeks would be good for leaving enough time for the WG participants =
to give feedback on this document.=C2=A0</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><di=
v>The smf-sec-threats draft =C2=A0is as what we did in RFC 7186 (Security T=
hreats for the NHDP). It is an informational draft and aims to identify the=
 security threats of SMF.=C2=A0</div><div><b>We would request 2-week WGLC p=
eriod for this document.=C2=A0</b></div><div><br></div><div>regards</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>Jiazi</div></div>

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Hi,

I have reviewed the document. It's clear and in great shape. I think the
document is ready to go forward.

Just one tiny point:

In

-------------------------
3.1.  Expert Review: Evaluation Guidelines

   For registration from the registries for Packet TLV Types, Message
   TLV Types, and Address Block TLV Types, the following guidelines
   apply, *in addition to* those given in section 6.1 in [RFC5444]:
--------------------------

In fact, other than *adding* those rules, the document also obsoletes some
text in section 6.1 of RFC 5444. Specifically, it (partly) changes the
hierarchical allocation of RFC 5444:

----------------
These are Hierarchical Allocations, i.e., allocation of a type
      creates a registry for the extended types corresponding to that
      type...
------------------

So it would be helpful to indicate that the above text (or the hierarchical
allocation) is obsoleted, to avoid conflicts in the text.

regards

Jiazi


On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) <
chris.dearlove@baesystems.com> wrote:

>  To add my own minor WGLC nits, the TLV references ought to list RFC 7181
> before RFC 7188, and RFC 7188 ought not to be included for the GATEWAY TL=
V.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher Dearlove
>
> Senior Principal Engineer, Information Assurance Group
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> *From:* manet [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Dearlove,
> Christopher (UK)
> *Sent:* 26 January 2015 10:40
> *To:* adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'Abdussalam Baryun'; 'Ratliff, Stanley'
> *Cc:* manet@ietf.org; 'Thomas Heide Clausen'; 'Justin Dean'
> *Subject:* Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
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> *From:* Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk <adrian@olddog.co.uk>]
> *Sent:* 25 January 2015 10:09
> *To:* 'Abdussalam Baryun'; 'Ratliff, Stanley'
> *Cc:* Dearlove, Christopher (UK); 'Justin Dean'; manet@ietf.org; 'Thomas
> Heide Clausen'
> *Subject:* RE: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
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> Yup, Christopher said he would make the change together with any last cal=
l
> comments.
>
>
>
> Adrian
>
>
>
> *From:* Abdussalam Baryun [mailto:abdussalambaryun@gmail.com
> <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* 25 January 2015 03:29
> *To:* Ratliff, Stanley
> *Cc:* Dearlove, Christopher (UK); adrian@olddog.co.uk; Justin Dean;
> manet@ietf.org; Thomas Heide Clausen
> *Subject:* Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
>
>
>
> There was a respond regarding this document but still no change (I think
> the authors noted that it will be changed), so still it is not accepted
> from my side until the amendment done, I will review again and if no
> respond from me then that means I still request the amendments.
>
>
>
> AB
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Ratliff, Stanley <sratliff@idirect.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Working Group Participants,
>
> Please see the email thread below. This document is now in Working Group
> Last Call. The Last Call will run through Feb. 6, 2015. Please review the
> document and submit any comments to the list on or before that date.
>
> Lack of a response on-list will be viewed as acceptance of the document.
>
> Regards,
> Stan
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: manet [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dearlove,
> > Christopher (UK)
> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 8:42 AM
> > To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'Stan Ratliff'; 'Justin Dean'; manet@ietf.org
> > Cc: 'Thomas Heide Clausen'
> > Subject: Re: [manet] Request WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
> >
> > I wouldn't expect less than 2 weeks. But sometimes it's longer, I just
> don't
> > want longer. Or think it justified.
> >
> > --
> > Christopher Dearlove
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> > Networks and Image Analysis Capability BAE Systems Advanced Technology
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]
> > Sent: 23 January 2015 13:37
> > To: Dearlove, Christopher (UK); 'Stan Ratliff'; 'Justin Dean';
> manet@ietf.org
> > Cc: 'Thomas Heide Clausen'
> > Subject: RE: Request WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
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> > Yes, thanks for doing this work.
> >
> > I wouldn't change WG process for this doc, but 2 weeks is not so long i=
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> the
> > scheme of things.
> >
> > If you get it moving soon, I can clear this and the MT I-D within my
> tenure.
> >
> > A
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
> > > [mailto:chris.dearlove@baesystems.com]
> > > Sent: 23 January 2015 10:51
> > > To: Stan Ratliff (ratliffstan@gmail.com); Justin Dean
> > (jdean@itd.nrl.navy.mil);
> > > manet@ietf.org
> > > Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk; Thomas Heide Clausen
> > > (thomas@thomasclausen.org)
> > > Subject: Request WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
> > >
> > > As the subject line says, I (on behalf of the authors) would like to
> > > request a
> > WGLC
> > > of this document.
> > >
> > > As a reminder, this is purely an administrative matter for IANA,
> > > allowing us
> > to
> > > have our TLVs named properly. It makes no difference to any existing
> > protocols.
> > > We need to it order to advance draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology.
> > > I hope
> > we
> > > can have a short WGLC period on this one.
> > >
> > > --
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>I have reviewed the document.=
 It&#39;s clear and in great shape. I think the document is ready to go for=
ward.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Just one tiny point:</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>In</div><div><br></div><div>-------------------------</div><div><di=
v>3.1.=C2=A0 Expert Review: Evaluation Guidelines</div><div><br></div><div>=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0For registration from the registries for Packet TLV Types, Mes=
sage</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0TLV Types, and Address Block TLV Types, the fol=
lowing guidelines</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0apply, <b>in addition to</b> those=
 given in section 6.1 in [RFC5444]:</div></div><div>-----------------------=
---</div><div><br></div><div>In fact, other than <b>adding</b> those rules,=
 the document also obsoletes some text in section 6.1 of RFC 5444. Specific=
ally, it (partly) changes the hierarchical allocation of RFC 5444:</div><di=
v><br></div><div>----------------</div><div><div>These are Hierarchical All=
ocations, i.e., allocation of a type</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 creates=
 a registry for the extended types corresponding to that</div><div>=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 type...</div></div><div>------------------</div><div><br></di=
v><div>So it would be helpful to indicate that the above text (or the hiera=
rchical allocation) is obsoleted, to avoid conflicts in the text.=C2=A0</di=
v><div><br></div><div>regards</div><div><br></div><div>Jiazi=C2=A0</div><di=
v><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:chris.dearlove@baesystems.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>chris.dearlove@baesystems.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">To add my own minor WGLC =
nits, the TLV references ought to list RFC 7181 before RFC 7188, and RFC 71=
88 ought not to be included for the GATEWAY TLV.<u></u><u></u></span></p><s=
pan class=3D"">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">--
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Christopher Dearlove<u></=
u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Senior Principal Engineer=
, Information Assurance Group<br>
Communications, Networks and Image Analysis Capability<br>
BAE Systems Advanced Technology Centre<br>
West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK<br>
Tel: <a href=3D"tel:%2B44%201245%20242194" value=3D"+441245242194" target=
=3D"_blank">+44 1245 242194</a>=C2=A0|=C2=A0 Fax: <a href=3D"tel:%2B44%2012=
45%20242124" value=3D"+441245242124" target=3D"_blank">+44 1245 242124</a><=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><a href=3D"mailto:chris.d=
earlove@baesystems.com" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d;text=
-decoration:none">chris.dearlove@baesystems.com</span></a>
 | <a href=3D"http://www.baesystems.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.baesy=
stems.com</a><br>
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">BAE Systems (Operations) Limited<br>
Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, =
Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK<br>
Registered in England &amp; Wales No: 1996687<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></p>
</span><div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> manet [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.or=
g" target=3D"_blank">manet-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dearlove, Christopher (UK)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 26 January 2015 10:40<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">adrian@=
olddog.co.uk</a>; &#39;Abdussalam Baryun&#39;; &#39;Ratliff, Stanley&#39;<b=
r>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:manet@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">manet@ietf.o=
rg</a>; &#39;Thomas Heide Clausen&#39;; &#39;Justin Dean&#39;<span class=3D=
""><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00<u></u><u=
></u></span></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div style=3D"border:solid black 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center;backgrou=
nd:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center;backgrou=
nd:white"><b><span style=3D"font-size:15.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333972">*** WARNING ***<u></u><u></u></span><=
/b></p>
</div><div><div class=3D"h5">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-=
align:center;background:white">
<em><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;;color:#333972">This message originates from outside our organ=
isation, either from an external partner or the internet.</span></em><i><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:#333972"><br>
<em><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Co=
nsider carefully whether you should click on any links, open any attachment=
s or reply.</span></em><br>
<em><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Fo=
r information regarding </span>
</em></span></i><strong><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:red">Red Flags</span></i></stron=
g><em><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;;color:#333972"> that you can look out for in emails you rec=
eive,
 click <a href=3D"http://intranet.ent.baesystems.com/howwework/security/spo=
tlights/Documents/Red%20Flags.pdf" target=3D"_blank">
here</a>.</span></em><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;A=
rial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333972"><br>
<em><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">If=
 you feel the email is suspicious, please follow
<a href=3D"http://intranet.ent.baesystems.com/howwework/security/spotlights=
/Documents/Dealing%20With%20Suspicious%20Emails.pdf" target=3D"_blank">
this process</a>.</span></em></span></i><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333972"><u></u><u>=
</u></span></p>
</div>
</div></div></div><div><div class=3D"h5">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Thanks for the reminder. =
As Adrian says, I agreed I=E2=80=99d roll this in with any (other) WGLC com=
ments.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">--
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Christopher Dearlove<u></=
u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Senior Principal Engineer=
, Information Assurance Group<br>
Communications, Networks and Image Analysis Capability<br>
BAE Systems Advanced Technology Centre<br>
West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK<br>
Tel: <a href=3D"tel:%2B44%201245%20242194" value=3D"+441245242194" target=
=3D"_blank">+44 1245 242194</a>=C2=A0|=C2=A0 Fax: <a href=3D"tel:%2B44%2012=
45%20242124" value=3D"+441245242124" target=3D"_blank">+44 1245 242124</a><=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><a href=3D"mailto:chris.d=
earlove@baesystems.com" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d;text=
-decoration:none">chris.dearlove@baesystems.com</span></a>
 | <a href=3D"http://www.baesystems.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.baesy=
stems.com</a><br>
<br>
BAE Systems (Operations) Limited<br>
Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, =
Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK<br>
Registered in England &amp; Wales No: 1996687<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Adrian Farrel [<a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk"=
 target=3D"_blank">mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 25 January 2015 10:09<br>
<b>To:</b> &#39;Abdussalam Baryun&#39;; &#39;Ratliff, Stanley&#39;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dearlove, Christopher (UK); &#39;Justin Dean&#39;; <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:manet@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">
manet@ietf.org</a>; &#39;Thomas Heide Clausen&#39;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00<u></u><u=
></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div style=3D"border:solid black 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center;backgrou=
nd:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center;backgrou=
nd:white"><b><span style=3D"font-size:15.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333972">*** WARNING ***<u></u><u></u></span><=
/b></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-=
align:center;background:white">
<em><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;;color:#333972">This message originates from outside our organ=
isation, either from an external partner or the internet.</span></em><i><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:#333972"><br>
<em><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Co=
nsider carefully whether you should click on any links, open any attachment=
s or reply.</span></em><br>
<em><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Fo=
r information regarding </span>
</em></span></i><strong><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:red">Red Flags</span></i></stron=
g><em><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;;color:#333972"> that you can look out for in emails you rec=
eive,
 click <a href=3D"http://intranet.ent.baesystems.com/howwework/security/spo=
tlights/Documents/Red%20Flags.pdf" target=3D"_blank">
here</a>.</span></em><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;A=
rial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333972"><br>
<em><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">If=
 you feel the email is suspicious, please follow
<a href=3D"http://intranet.ent.baesystems.com/howwework/security/spotlights=
/Documents/Dealing%20With%20Suspicious%20Emails.pdf" target=3D"_blank">
this process</a>.</span></em></span></i><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333972"><u></u><u>=
</u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Yup, Christopher said he =
would make the change together with any last call comments.<u></u><u></u></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Adrian<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
4.0pt">
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Abdussalam Baryun [<a href=3D"mailto:abdussalambaryun=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mailto:abdussalambaryun@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 25 January 2015 03:29<br>
<b>To:</b> Ratliff, Stanley<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dearlove, Christopher (UK); <a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.u=
k" target=3D"_blank">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>; Justin Dean;
<a href=3D"mailto:manet@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">manet@ietf.org</a>; Tho=
mas Heide Clausen<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00<u></u><u=
></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">There was a respond regarding this document but stil=
l no change (I think the authors noted that it will be changed), so still i=
t is not accepted from my side until the amendment done, I will review agai=
n and if no respond from me then that
 means I still request the amendments. <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">AB<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Ratliff, Stanley &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:sratliff@idirect.net" target=3D"_blank">sratliff@idirec=
t.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello Working Group Participants,<br>
<br>
Please see the email thread below. This document is now in Working Group La=
st Call. The Last Call will run through Feb. 6, 2015. Please review the doc=
ument and submit any comments to the list on or before that date.<br>
<br>
Lack of a response on-list will be viewed as acceptance of the document.<br=
>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Stan<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: manet [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org" target=
=3D"_blank">manet-bounces@ietf.org</a>] On Behalf Of Dearlove,<br>
&gt; Christopher (UK)<br>
&gt; Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 8:42 AM<br>
&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">adrian@ol=
ddog.co.uk</a>; &#39;Stan Ratliff&#39;; &#39;Justin Dean&#39;;
<a href=3D"mailto:manet@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">manet@ietf.org</a><br>
&gt; Cc: &#39;Thomas Heide Clausen&#39;<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [manet] Request WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00<br=
>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I wouldn&#39;t expect less than 2 weeks. But sometimes it&#39;s longer=
, I just don&#39;t<br>
&gt; want longer. Or think it justified.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Christopher Dearlove<br>
&gt; Senior Principal Engineer, Information Assurance Group Communications,=
<br>
&gt; Networks and Image Analysis Capability BAE Systems Advanced Technology=
<br>
&gt; Centre West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK<b=
r>
&gt; Tel: <a href=3D"tel:%2B44%201245%20242194" target=3D"_blank">+44 1245 =
242194</a>=C2=A0|=C2=A0 Fax: <a href=3D"tel:%2B44%201245%20242124" target=
=3D"_blank">
+44 1245 242124</a> <a href=3D"mailto:chris.dearlove@baesystems.com" target=
=3D"_blank">chris.dearlove@baesystems.com</a><br>
&gt; | <a href=3D"http://www.baesystems.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.b=
aesystems.com</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; BAE Systems (Operations) Limited<br>
&gt; Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace<br>
&gt; Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK Registered in England &amp; W=
ales<br>
&gt; No: 1996687<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk" tar=
get=3D"_blank">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>]<br>
&gt; Sent: 23 January 2015 13:37<br>
&gt; To: Dearlove, Christopher (UK); &#39;Stan Ratliff&#39;; &#39;Justin De=
an&#39;; <a href=3D"mailto:manet@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">
manet@ietf.org</a><br>
&gt; Cc: &#39;Thomas Heide Clausen&#39;<br>
&gt; Subject: RE: Request WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ----------------------! WARNING ! ---------------------- This message =
originates<br>
&gt; from outside our organisation, either from an external partner or from=
 the<br>
&gt; internet.<br>
&gt; Consider carefully whether you should click on any links, open any<br>
&gt; attachments or reply.<br>
&gt; Follow the &#39;Report Suspicious Emails&#39; link on IT matters for i=
nstructions on<br>
&gt; reporting suspicious email messages.<br>
&gt; --------------------------------------------------------<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Yes, thanks for doing this work.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I wouldn&#39;t change WG process for this doc, but 2 weeks is not so l=
ong in the<br>
&gt; scheme of things.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; If you get it moving soon, I can clear this and the MT I-D within my t=
enure.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; A<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; &gt; From: Dearlove, Christopher (UK)<br>
&gt; &gt; [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:chris.dearlove@baesystems.com" target=
=3D"_blank">chris.dearlove@baesystems.com</a>]<br>
&gt; &gt; Sent: 23 January 2015 10:51<br>
&gt; &gt; To: Stan Ratliff (<a href=3D"mailto:ratliffstan@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">ratliffstan@gmail.com</a>); Justin Dean<br>
&gt; (<a href=3D"mailto:jdean@itd.nrl.navy.mil" target=3D"_blank">jdean@itd=
.nrl.navy.mil</a>);<br>
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&gt; &gt; (<a href=3D"mailto:thomas@thomasclausen.org" target=3D"_blank">th=
omas@thomasclausen.org</a>)<br>
&gt; &gt; Subject: Request WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; As the subject line says, I (on behalf of the authors) would like=
 to<br>
&gt; &gt; request a<br>
&gt; WGLC<br>
&gt; &gt; of this document.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; As a reminder, this is purely an administrative matter for IANA,<=
br>
&gt; &gt; allowing us<br>
&gt; to<br>
&gt; &gt; have our TLVs named properly. It makes no difference to any exist=
ing<br>
&gt; protocols.<br>
&gt; &gt; We need to it order to advance draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopol=
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&gt; &gt; I hope<br>
&gt; we<br>
&gt; &gt; can have a short WGLC period on this one.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt; &gt; Christopher Dearlove<br>
&gt; &gt; Senior Principal Engineer, Information Assurance Group Communicat=
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hmm... my understanding was, if one creates a type X type extension Y
registry, it's like create a tlv-fulltype with 256X+Y directly, which is
flat (in turns of name).
Of course, in turns of numbers, it's still hierarchical.

thanks very much for your explanation.

best

Jiazi

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) <
chris.dearlove@baesystems.com> wrote:

>  I don=E2=80=99t believe that is so. If you allocate a type, you still al=
locate a
> type extension registry. It=E2=80=99s just that (unless you define all of=
 the type
> extensions, like LINK_METRIC) the type extension registry is named only b=
y
> number, not by name.
>
>
>
> So if we were allocating LINK_STATUS today (after this draft) as type X
> (sorry, in a hurry, not looking up) type extension 0, then we would creat=
e
> a type X registry (not a LINK_STATUS registry) and then put an entry 0,
> named LINK_STATUS, in that new registry.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher Dearlove
>
> Senior Principal Engineer, Information Assurance Group
> Communications, Networks and Image Analysis Capability
> BAE Systems Advanced Technology Centre
> West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK
> Tel: +44 1245 242194 |  Fax: +44 1245 242124
>
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>
>
> *From:* yi.jiazi@gmail.com [mailto:yi.jiazi@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Jia=
zi
> YI
> *Sent:* 02 February 2015 13:49
> *To:* Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
> *Cc:* adrian@olddog.co.uk; Abdussalam Baryun; Ratliff, Stanley;
> manet@ietf.org; Thomas Heide Clausen; Justin Dean
>
> *Subject:* Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
>
>
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> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have reviewed the document. It's clear and in great shape. I think the
> document is ready to go forward.
>
>
>
> Just one tiny point:
>
>
>
> In
>
>
>
> -------------------------
>
> 3.1.  Expert Review: Evaluation Guidelines
>
>
>
>    For registration from the registries for Packet TLV Types, Message
>
>    TLV Types, and Address Block TLV Types, the following guidelines
>
>    apply, *in addition to* those given in section 6.1 in [RFC5444]:
>
> --------------------------
>
>
>
> In fact, other than *adding* those rules, the document also obsoletes
> some text in section 6.1 of RFC 5444. Specifically, it (partly) changes t=
he
> hierarchical allocation of RFC 5444:
>
>
>
> ----------------
>
> These are Hierarchical Allocations, i.e., allocation of a type
>
>       creates a registry for the extended types corresponding to that
>
>       type...
>
> ------------------
>
>
>
> So it would be helpful to indicate that the above text (or the
> hierarchical allocation) is obsoleted, to avoid conflicts in the text.
>
>
>
> regards
>
>
>
> Jiazi
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) <
> chris.dearlove@baesystems.com> wrote:
>
> To add my own minor WGLC nits, the TLV references ought to list RFC 7181
> before RFC 7188, and RFC 7188 ought not to be included for the GATEWAY TL=
V.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher Dearlove
>
> Senior Principal Engineer, Information Assurance Group
> Communications, Networks and Image Analysis Capability
> BAE Systems Advanced Technology Centre
> West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK
> Tel: +44 1245 242194 |  Fax: +44 1245 242124
>
> chris.dearlove@baesystems.com | http://www.baesystems.com
>
> BAE Systems (Operations) Limited
> Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre=
,
> Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK
> Registered in England & Wales No: 1996687
>
>
>
> *From:* manet [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Dearlove,
> Christopher (UK)
> *Sent:* 26 January 2015 10:40
> *To:* adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'Abdussalam Baryun'; 'Ratliff, Stanley'
> *Cc:* manet@ietf.org; 'Thomas Heide Clausen'; 'Justin Dean'
> *Subject:* Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
>
>
>
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> Thanks for the reminder. As Adrian says, I agreed I=E2=80=99d roll this i=
n with
> any (other) WGLC comments.
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>
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> --
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> Christopher Dearlove
>
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> Communications, Networks and Image Analysis Capability
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> West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK
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>
> *From:* Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk <adrian@olddog.co.uk>]
> *Sent:* 25 January 2015 10:09
> *To:* 'Abdussalam Baryun'; 'Ratliff, Stanley'
> *Cc:* Dearlove, Christopher (UK); 'Justin Dean'; manet@ietf.org; 'Thomas
> Heide Clausen'
> *Subject:* RE: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
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> Yup, Christopher said he would make the change together with any last cal=
l
> comments.
>
>
>
> Adrian
>
>
>
> *From:* Abdussalam Baryun [mailto:abdussalambaryun@gmail.com
> <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* 25 January 2015 03:29
> *To:* Ratliff, Stanley
> *Cc:* Dearlove, Christopher (UK); adrian@olddog.co.uk; Justin Dean;
> manet@ietf.org; Thomas Heide Clausen
> *Subject:* Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
>
>
>
> There was a respond regarding this document but still no change (I think
> the authors noted that it will be changed), so still it is not accepted
> from my side until the amendment done, I will review again and if no
> respond from me then that means I still request the amendments.
>
>
>
> AB
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Ratliff, Stanley <sratliff@idirect.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Working Group Participants,
>
> Please see the email thread below. This document is now in Working Group
> Last Call. The Last Call will run through Feb. 6, 2015. Please review the
> document and submit any comments to the list on or before that date.
>
> Lack of a response on-list will be viewed as acceptance of the document.
>
> Regards,
> Stan
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: manet [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dearlove,
> > Christopher (UK)
> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 8:42 AM
> > To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'Stan Ratliff'; 'Justin Dean'; manet@ietf.org
> > Cc: 'Thomas Heide Clausen'
> > Subject: Re: [manet] Request WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
> >
> > I wouldn't expect less than 2 weeks. But sometimes it's longer, I just
> don't
> > want longer. Or think it justified.
> >
> > --
> > Christopher Dearlove
> > Senior Principal Engineer, Information Assurance Group Communications,
> > Networks and Image Analysis Capability BAE Systems Advanced Technology
> > Centre West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK
> > Tel: +44 1245 242194 |  Fax: +44 1245 242124
> chris.dearlove@baesystems.com
> > | http://www.baesystems.com
> >
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> > Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK Registered in England & Wales
> > No: 1996687
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]
> > Sent: 23 January 2015 13:37
> > To: Dearlove, Christopher (UK); 'Stan Ratliff'; 'Justin Dean';
> manet@ietf.org
> > Cc: 'Thomas Heide Clausen'
> > Subject: RE: Request WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
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> > Yes, thanks for doing this work.
> >
> > I wouldn't change WG process for this doc, but 2 weeks is not so long i=
n
> the
> > scheme of things.
> >
> > If you get it moving soon, I can clear this and the MT I-D within my
> tenure.
> >
> > A
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
> > > [mailto:chris.dearlove@baesystems.com]
> > > Sent: 23 January 2015 10:51
> > > To: Stan Ratliff (ratliffstan@gmail.com); Justin Dean
> > (jdean@itd.nrl.navy.mil);
> > > manet@ietf.org
> > > Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk; Thomas Heide Clausen
> > > (thomas@thomasclausen.org)
> > > Subject: Request WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
> > >
> > > As the subject line says, I (on behalf of the authors) would like to
> > > request a
> > WGLC
> > > of this document.
> > >
> > > As a reminder, this is purely an administrative matter for IANA,
> > > allowing us
> > to
> > > have our TLVs named properly. It makes no difference to any existing
> > protocols.
> > > We need to it order to advance draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology.
> > > I hope
> > we
> > > can have a short WGLC period on this one.
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Senior Principal Engineer, Information Assurance Group Communications=
,
> > > Networks and Image Analysis Capability BAE Systems Advanced Technolog=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">hmm... my understanding was, if one creates a type X type =
extension Y registry, it&#39;s like create a tlv-fulltype with 256X+Y direc=
tly, which is flat (in turns of name).=C2=A0<div>Of course, in turns of num=
bers, it&#39;s still hierarchical.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>thanks ve=
ry much for your explanation.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>best</div><div=
><br></div><div>Jiazi</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Dearlove, Christopher (UK)=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:chris.dearlove@baesystems.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">chris.dearlove@baesystems.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">I don=E2=80=99t believe t=
hat is so. If you allocate a type, you still allocate a type extension regi=
stry. It=E2=80=99s just that (unless you define all of the type extensions,
 like LINK_METRIC) the type extension registry is named only by number, not=
 by name.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">So if we were allocating =
LINK_STATUS today (after this draft) as type X (sorry, in a hurry, not look=
ing up) type extension 0, then we would create a type X
 registry (not a LINK_STATUS registry) and then put an entry 0, named LINK_=
STATUS, in that new registry.<u></u><u></u></span></p><span class=3D"">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">--
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Christopher Dearlove<u></=
u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Senior Principal Engineer=
, Information Assurance Group<br>
Communications, Networks and Image Analysis Capability<br>
BAE Systems Advanced Technology Centre<br>
West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK<br>
Tel: <a href=3D"tel:%2B44%201245%20242194" value=3D"+441245242194" target=
=3D"_blank">+44 1245 242194</a>=C2=A0|=C2=A0 Fax: <a href=3D"tel:%2B44%2012=
45%20242124" value=3D"+441245242124" target=3D"_blank">+44 1245 242124</a><=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><a href=3D"mailto:chris.d=
earlove@baesystems.com" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d;text=
-decoration:none">chris.dearlove@baesystems.com</span></a>
 | <a href=3D"http://www.baesystems.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.baesy=
stems.com</a><br>
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">BAE Systems (Operations) Limited<br>
Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, =
Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK<br>
Registered in England &amp; Wales No: 1996687<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></p>
</span><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b=
><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> <a href=3D"mailto:yi.jiazi@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">yi.jiazi@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:yi.jiazi@gmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank">yi.jiazi@gmail.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jiazi YI<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 02 February 2015 13:49<br>
<b>To:</b> Dearlove, Christopher (UK)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">adrian@=
olddog.co.uk</a>; Abdussalam Baryun; Ratliff, Stanley; <a href=3D"mailto:ma=
net@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">manet@ietf.org</a>; Thomas Heide Clausen; J=
ustin Dean</span></p><div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00<u></u><u=
></u></div></div><p></p><div><div class=3D"h5">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div style=3D"border:solid black 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center;backgrou=
nd:white"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center;backgrou=
nd:white"><b><span style=3D"font-size:15.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333972">*** WARNING ***<u></u><u></u></span><=
/b></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-=
align:center;background:white">
<em><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;;color:#333972">This message originates from outside our organ=
isation, either from an external partner or the internet.</span></em><i><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:#333972"><br>
<em><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Co=
nsider carefully whether you should click on any links, open any attachment=
s or reply.</span></em><br>
<em><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Fo=
r information regarding </span>
</em></span></i><strong><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:red">Red Flags</span></i></stron=
g><em><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;;color:#333972"> that you can look out for in emails you rec=
eive,
 click <a href=3D"http://intranet.ent.baesystems.com/howwework/security/spo=
tlights/Documents/Red%20Flags.pdf" target=3D"_blank">
here</a>.</span></em><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;A=
rial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333972"><br>
<em><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">If=
 you feel the email is suspicious, please follow
<a href=3D"http://intranet.ent.baesystems.com/howwework/security/spotlights=
/Documents/Dealing%20With%20Suspicious%20Emails.pdf" target=3D"_blank">
this process</a>.</span></em></span></i><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333972"><u></u><u>=
</u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have reviewed the document. It&#39;s clear and in =
great shape. I think the document is ready to go forward.=C2=A0<u></u><u></=
u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Just one tiny point:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">In<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">-------------------------<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">3.1.=C2=A0 Expert Review: Evaluation Guidelines<u></=
u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0For registration from the registries fo=
r Packet TLV Types, Message<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0TLV Types, and Address Block TLV Types,=
 the following guidelines<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0apply, <b>in addition to</b> those give=
n in section 6.1 in [RFC5444]:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">--------------------------<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">In fact, other than <b>adding</b> those rules, the d=
ocument also obsoletes some text in section 6.1 of RFC 5444. Specifically, =
it (partly) changes the hierarchical allocation of RFC 5444:<u></u><u></u><=
/p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">----------------<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">These are Hierarchical Allocations, i.e., allocation=
 of a type<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 creates a registry for the exte=
nded types corresponding to that<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 type...<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">------------------<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">So it would be helpful to indicate that the above te=
xt (or the hierarchical allocation) is obsoleted, to avoid conflicts in the=
 text.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">regards<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jiazi=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Dearlove, Christop=
her (UK) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:chris.dearlove@baesystems.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">chris.dearlove@baesystems.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">To add my own minor WGLC =
nits, the TLV references ought to list RFC 7181 before RFC 7188, and RFC
 7188 ought not to be included for the GATEWAY TLV.</span><u></u><u></u></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></=
u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">--
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Christopher Dearlove</spa=
n><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Senior Principal Engineer=
, Information Assurance Group<br>
Communications, Networks and Image Analysis Capability<br>
BAE Systems Advanced Technology Centre<br>
West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK<br>
Tel: <a href=3D"tel:%2B44%201245%20242194" target=3D"_blank">+44 1245 24219=
4</a>=C2=A0|=C2=A0 Fax:
<a href=3D"tel:%2B44%201245%20242124" target=3D"_blank">+44 1245 242124</a>=
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><a href=3D"mailto:chris.d=
earlove@baesystems.com" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d;text=
-decoration:none">chris.dearlove@baesystems.com</span></a>
 | <a href=3D"http://www.baesystems.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.baesy=
stems.com</a><br>
<br>
BAE Systems (Operations) Limited<br>
Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, =
Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK<br>
Registered in England &amp; Wales No: 1996687</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></=
u></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> manet
 [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">manet-=
bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dearlove, Christopher (UK)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 26 January 2015 10:40<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">adrian@=
olddog.co.uk</a>; &#39;Abdussalam Baryun&#39;; &#39;Ratliff, Stanley&#39;<b=
r>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:manet@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">manet@ietf.o=
rg</a>; &#39;Thomas Heide Clausen&#39;; &#39;Justin Dean&#39;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00</span><u=
></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<div style=3D"border:solid black 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center;backgrou=
nd:white">
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:b=
lack">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center;backgrou=
nd:white">
<b><span style=3D"font-size:15.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans=
-serif&quot;;color:#333972">*** WARNING ***</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-=
align:center;background:white">
<em><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;;color:#333972">This message originates from outside our organ=
isation, either from an external partner or the internet.</span></em><i><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:#333972"><br>
<em><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Co=
nsider carefully whether you should click on any links, open any attachment=
s or reply.</span></em><br>
<em><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Fo=
r information regarding </span>
</em></span></i><strong><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:red">Red Flags</span></i></stron=
g><em><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;;color:#333972"> that you can look out for in emails you rec=
eive,
 click <a href=3D"http://intranet.ent.baesystems.com/howwework/security/spo=
tlights/Documents/Red%20Flags.pdf" target=3D"_blank">
here</a>.</span></em><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;A=
rial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333972"><br>
<em><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">If=
 you feel the email is suspicious, please follow
<a href=3D"http://intranet.ent.baesystems.com/howwework/security/spotlights=
/Documents/Dealing%20With%20Suspicious%20Emails.pdf" target=3D"_blank">
this process</a>.</span></em></span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Thanks for the reminder. =
As Adrian says, I agreed I=E2=80=99d roll this in with any (other) WGLC com=
ments.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></=
u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">--
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Christopher Dearlove</spa=
n><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Senior Principal Engineer=
, Information Assurance Group<br>
Communications, Networks and Image Analysis Capability<br>
BAE Systems Advanced Technology Centre<br>
West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK<br>
Tel: <a href=3D"tel:%2B44%201245%20242194" target=3D"_blank">+44 1245 24219=
4</a>=C2=A0|=C2=A0 Fax:
<a href=3D"tel:%2B44%201245%20242124" target=3D"_blank">+44 1245 242124</a>=
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><a href=3D"mailto:chris.d=
earlove@baesystems.com" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d;text=
-decoration:none">chris.dearlove@baesystems.com</span></a>
 | <a href=3D"http://www.baesystems.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.baesy=
stems.com</a><br>
<br>
BAE Systems (Operations) Limited<br>
Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, =
Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK<br>
Registered in England &amp; Wales No: 1996687</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></=
u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Adrian
 Farrel [<a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">mailto:ad=
rian@olddog.co.uk</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 25 January 2015 10:09<br>
<b>To:</b> &#39;Abdussalam Baryun&#39;; &#39;Ratliff, Stanley&#39;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dearlove, Christopher (UK); &#39;Justin Dean&#39;; <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:manet@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">
manet@ietf.org</a>; &#39;Thomas Heide Clausen&#39;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00</span><u=
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ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Abdussalam
 Baryun [<a href=3D"mailto:abdussalambaryun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ma=
ilto:abdussalambaryun@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 25 January 2015 03:29<br>
<b>To:</b> Ratliff, Stanley<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dearlove, Christopher (UK); <a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.u=
k" target=3D"_blank">
adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>; Justin Dean; <a href=3D"mailto:manet@ietf.org" tar=
get=3D"_blank">
manet@ietf.org</a>; Thomas Heide Clausen<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00</span><u=
></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">There was a respond regarding this document but stil=
l no change (I think the authors noted that it will be changed), so still i=
t is not accepted from my side until the amendment
 done, I will review again and if no respond from me then that means I stil=
l request the amendments.
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Ratliff, Stanley &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:sratliff@idirect.net" target=3D"_blank">sratliff@idirec=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello Working Group Participants,<br>
<br>
Please see the email thread below. This document is now in Working Group La=
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Regards,<br>
Stan<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: manet [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org" target=
=3D"_blank">manet-bounces@ietf.org</a>] On Behalf Of Dearlove,<br>
&gt; Christopher (UK)<br>
&gt; Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 8:42 AM<br>
&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">adrian@ol=
ddog.co.uk</a>; &#39;Stan Ratliff&#39;; &#39;Justin Dean&#39;;
<a href=3D"mailto:manet@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">manet@ietf.org</a><br>
&gt; Cc: &#39;Thomas Heide Clausen&#39;<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [manet] Request WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00<br=
>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I wouldn&#39;t expect less than 2 weeks. But sometimes it&#39;s longer=
, I just don&#39;t<br>
&gt; want longer. Or think it justified.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Christopher Dearlove<br>
&gt; Senior Principal Engineer, Information Assurance Group Communications,=
<br>
&gt; Networks and Image Analysis Capability BAE Systems Advanced Technology=
<br>
&gt; Centre West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK<b=
r>
&gt; Tel: <a href=3D"tel:%2B44%201245%20242194" target=3D"_blank">+44 1245 =
242194</a>=C2=A0|=C2=A0 Fax:
<a href=3D"tel:%2B44%201245%20242124" target=3D"_blank">+44 1245 242124</a>=
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chris.dearlove@baesystems.com</a><br>
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&gt; Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK Registered in England &amp; W=
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&gt; No: 1996687<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk" tar=
get=3D"_blank">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>]<br>
&gt; Sent: 23 January 2015 13:37<br>
&gt; To: Dearlove, Christopher (UK); &#39;Stan Ratliff&#39;; &#39;Justin De=
an&#39;; <a href=3D"mailto:manet@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">
manet@ietf.org</a><br>
&gt; Cc: &#39;Thomas Heide Clausen&#39;<br>
&gt; Subject: RE: Request WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00<br>
&gt;<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt; Yes, thanks for doing this work.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I wouldn&#39;t change WG process for this doc, but 2 weeks is not so l=
ong in the<br>
&gt; scheme of things.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; If you get it moving soon, I can clear this and the MT I-D within my t=
enure.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; A<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; &gt; From: Dearlove, Christopher (UK)<br>
&gt; &gt; [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:chris.dearlove@baesystems.com" target=
=3D"_blank">chris.dearlove@baesystems.com</a>]<br>
&gt; &gt; Sent: 23 January 2015 10:51<br>
&gt; &gt; To: Stan Ratliff (<a href=3D"mailto:ratliffstan@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">ratliffstan@gmail.com</a>); Justin Dean<br>
&gt; (<a href=3D"mailto:jdean@itd.nrl.navy.mil" target=3D"_blank">jdean@itd=
.nrl.navy.mil</a>);<br>
&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"mailto:manet@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">manet@ietf.or=
g</a><br>
&gt; &gt; Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">adri=
an@olddog.co.uk</a>; Thomas Heide Clausen<br>
&gt; &gt; (<a href=3D"mailto:thomas@thomasclausen.org" target=3D"_blank">th=
omas@thomasclausen.org</a>)<br>
&gt; &gt; Subject: Request WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; As the subject line says, I (on behalf of the authors) would like=
 to<br>
&gt; &gt; request a<br>
&gt; WGLC<br>
&gt; &gt; of this document.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; As a reminder, this is purely an administrative matter for IANA,<=
br>
&gt; &gt; allowing us<br>
&gt; to<br>
&gt; &gt; have our TLVs named properly. It makes no difference to any exist=
ing<br>
&gt; protocols.<br>
&gt; &gt; We need to it order to advance draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopol=
ogy.<br>
&gt; &gt; I hope<br>
&gt; we<br>
&gt; &gt; can have a short WGLC period on this one.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt; &gt; Christopher Dearlove<br>
&gt; &gt; Senior Principal Engineer, Information Assurance Group Communicat=
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There were few comments on the list.  With the exception of the change
mentioned here
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/manet/current/msg17310.html
no other changes or issues were mentioned.  I'll forward the document along
once this change is made and the document updated.

Thanks

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>There were few comments on the list.=C2=A0 With =
the exception of the change mentioned here<br><a href=3D"http://www.ietf.or=
g/mail-archive/web/manet/current/msg17310.html">http://www.ietf.org/mail-ar=
chive/web/manet/current/msg17310.html</a><br></div>no other changes or issu=
es were mentioned.=C2=A0 I&#39;ll forward the document along once this chan=
ge is made and the document updated.<br><br></div><div>Thanks<br></div><div=
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Please review the informational WG document regarding smf security threats
within the next 4 weeks.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-smf-sec-threats/

Justin

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Please review the informational WG document regarding=
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : TLV Naming in the MANET Generalized Packet/Message Format
        Authors         : Christopher Dearlove
                          Thomas Heide Clausen
	Filename        : draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-01.txt
	Pages           : 16
	Date            : 2015-02-11

Abstract:
   TLVs (type-length-value structures) as defined by RFC5444 have both a
   type (one octet) and a type extension (one octet), together forming a
   full type (of two octets).  RFC5444 sets up IANA registries for TLV
   types, specifying that an allocation of a TLV type entails creation
   of an IANA registry for the corresponding type extensions.

   In some cases, reserving all 256 type extensions for use for a common
   purpose for a given TLV is meaningful, and thus it makes sense to
   record a common name for such a TLV type (and all of its type
   extensions) in the corresponding IANA registries.  An example of such
   is a LINK_METRIC TLV Type, with its type extensions reserved for use
   to be indicating the "kind" of metric expressed by the value of the
   TLV.

   In some other cases, there may not be 256 full types that share a
   common purpose and, as such, it is not meaningful to record a common
   name for all the type extensions for a TLV type in the corresponding
   IANA registries.  Rather, it is appropriate to record an individual
   name per full type.

   This document reorganizes the naming of already allocated TLV types
   and type extensions in those registries to use names appropriately.
   It has no consequences in terms of any protocol implementation.

   This document also updates the Expert Review guidelines from RFC5444,
   so as to establish a policy for consistent naming of future TLV type
   and type extension allocations.  It makes no other changes to
   RFC5444.


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Security Threats for the Optimized Link State Routing Protocol version 2 (OLSRv2)
        Authors         : Thomas Clausen
                          Ulrich Herberg
                          Jiazi Yi
	Filename        : draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-sec-threats-00.txt
	Pages           : 24
	Date            : 2015-02-12

Abstract:
   This document analyzes common security threats of the Optimized Link
   State Routing Protocol version 2 (OLSRv2) and describes their
   potential impacts on Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) operations.  It
   then analyzes which of these security vulnerabilities can be
   mitigated when using the mandatory-to-implement security mechanisms
   for OLSRv2, and how the vulnerabilities are mitigated.


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As discussed at the last MANET meeting comments regarding
draft-clausen-manet-olsrv2-sec-threats-01 to be adopted as wg document.
There were no objections at the meeting.
If you have comments regarding addoption of this draft as a wg document
please state them now.

Justin

Apologies for messing up the process...

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>As discussed at the last MANET meeting comments =
regarding draft-clausen-manet-olsrv2-sec-threats-01 to be adopted as wg doc=
ument.=C2=A0 There were no objections at the meeting.=C2=A0 <br></div>If yo=
u have comments regarding addoption of this draft as a wg document please s=
tate them now.<br><br></div>Justin<br><div><br>Apologies for messing up the=
 process...<br><div><h1><br></h1><div></div></div></div></div>

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Dear all,

With the approval of WG adoption of manet-olsrv2-sec-threats, we
submitted draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-sec-threats-00 as requested by WG chairs.

The revision is the same as the previous individual
draft draft-clausen-manet-olsrv2-sec-threats-01.

Your comments are appreciated.

regards

Jiazi

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:56 PM, <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:

>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
>  This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group of
> the IETF.
>
>         Title           : Security Threats for the Optimized Link State
> Routing Protocol version 2 (OLSRv2)
>         Authors         : Thomas Clausen
>                           Ulrich Herberg
>                           Jiazi Yi
>         Filename        : draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-sec-threats-00.txt
>         Pages           : 24
>         Date            : 2015-02-12
>
> Abstract:
>    This document analyzes common security threats of the Optimized Link
>    State Routing Protocol version 2 (OLSRv2) and describes their
>    potential impacts on Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) operations.  It
>    then analyzes which of these security vulnerabilities can be
>    mitigated when using the mandatory-to-implement security mechanisms
>    for OLSRv2, and how the vulnerabilities are mitigated.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-sec-threats/
>
> There's also a htmlized version available at:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-sec-threats-00
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Dear all,=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>With the approval of WG=
 adoption of=C2=A0manet-olsrv2-sec-threats, we submitted=C2=A0draft-ietf-ma=
net-olsrv2-sec-threats-00 as requested by WG chairs.=C2=A0</div><div><br></=
div><div>The revision is the same as the previous individual draft=C2=A0dra=
ft-clausen-manet-olsrv2-sec-threats-01.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Your=
 comments are appreciated.</div><div><br></div><div>regards</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Jiazi<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:56 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:internet-drafts@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);bord=
er-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.<br>
=C2=A0This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group=
 of the IETF.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:=
 Security Threats for the Optimized Link State Routing Protocol version 2 (=
OLSRv2)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Thom=
as Clausen<br>
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-iet=
f-manet-olsrv2-sec-threats-00.txt<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:=
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 :=
 2015-02-12<br>
<br>
Abstract:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document analyzes common security threats of the Optimize=
d Link<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0State Routing Protocol version 2 (OLSRv2) and describes their<=
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0potential impacts on Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) operations.=
=C2=A0 It<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0then analyzes which of these security vulnerabilities can be<b=
r>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0mitigated when using the mandatory-to-implement security mecha=
nisms<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0for OLSRv2, and how the vulnerabilities are mitigated.<br>
<br>
<br>
The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-sec-thr=
eats/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-=
olsrv2-sec-threats/</a><br>
<br>
There&#39;s also a htmlized version available at:<br>
<a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-sec-threats-0=
0" target=3D"_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-sec=
-threats-00</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio=
n<br>
until the htmlized version and diff are available at <a href=3D"http://tool=
s.ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">tools.ietf.org</a>.<br>
<br>
Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:<br>
<a href=3D"ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/" target=3D"_blank">ftp://ftp=
.ietf.org/internet-drafts/</a><br>
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Dear all,

We would like to announce an update of implementation for OLSR multipath
extension. It corresponds to the draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multipath draft.

In the past few years, we have received lots of queries about the
compatibility with the more recent Linux kernel, and documentation
regarding the implementation.

This update is mainly to make the implementation compatible with the latest
Linux kernel. It is tested on Raspberry Pi platform. A detailed
installation guide is also provided.

The source code and documentation can be found at

http://jiaziyi.com/documents/SEREADMO/MP-OLSR-RaspBerryPi.zip

A more detailed report is also available at

http://jiaziyi.com/documents/SEREADMO/Report-MPOLSR-RaspberryPi.pdf
(sorry, for the moment, only a French version is available. Will try to
provide a brief English version in the future)

This update is done by Benjamin MOLL=C3=89 and Denis SOURON, with the input=
 from
the team of Ricardo T. Macedo and Michele Nogueira from UFPR, Brazil.
Their efforts are greatly appreciated.

best

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Dear all,=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>We would like to announ=
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 to the=C2=A0draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multipath draft.=C2=A0</div><div><br><=
/div><div>In the past few years, we have received lots of queries about the=
 compatibility with the more recent Linux kernel, and documentation regardi=
ng the implementation.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>This update is mainly=
 to make the implementation compatible with the latest Linux kernel. It is =
tested on Raspberry Pi platform. A detailed installation guide is also prov=
ided.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>The source code and documentation can =
be found at=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://jiaziyi.com/do=
cuments/SEREADMO/MP-OLSR-RaspBerryPi.zip">http://jiaziyi.com/documents/SERE=
ADMO/MP-OLSR-RaspBerryPi.zip</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>A more detail=
ed report is also available at=C2=A0</div><div><div><br class=3D""><a href=
=3D"http://jiaziyi.com/documents/SEREADMO/Report-MPOLSR-RaspberryPi.pdf">ht=
tp://jiaziyi.com/documents/SEREADMO/Report-MPOLSR-RaspberryPi.pdf</a></div>=
</div><div>(sorry, for the moment, only a French version is available. Will=
 try to provide a brief English version in the future)</div><div><br></div>=
<div>This update is done by Benjamin MOLL=C3=89 and Denis SOURON, with the =
input from the team of Ricardo T. Macedo and Michele Nogueira from <span st=
yle=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px">UFPR, Brazil.=C2=A0</span></div><div><=
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ciated.=C2=A0</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px"=
><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px">best</s=
pan></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></span></di=
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FYI (regarding management of constrained devices)


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From: Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich) <mehmet.ersue@nsn.com>
Date: Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:22 AM
Subject: [6lo] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-04 and
draft-ietf-netconf-yang-patch-03 WAS:RE: Restconf-04 and YANG-Patch-03
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Dear NETCONF WG,

we hereby issue a WG Last Call for 3 weeks for the drafts below:



https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-04

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netconf-yang-patch-03



Please review and send your comments to the NETCONF WG mailing list by
February 26, 2015 EOB PT.

The related draft-ietf-netconf-yang-library will follow with LC as
soon as the remaining two issues are solved

(see http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netconf-yang-library).

RESTCONF documents are planned to publish as standard track documents.

As RESTCONF is a major protocol we expect a detailed and thorough
review within NETCONF WG but also by the related WGs before
publishing.

Therefore the WGLC is planned for 3 weeks and APP, INT and RTG area
ADs will be informed as well as Core, I2rs, 6lo, and 6tisch WGs are
invited to review.

Please state explicitly that you have read/reviewed and whether you
support the publication.

Please indicate also if you plan to implement or have already
implementation experience with RESTCONF.



Thank you,

Mehmet and Mahesh



From: Netconf [mailto:netconf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext
Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 4:05 PM
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Subject: [Netconf] Restconf-04 and YANG-Patch-03 drafts available



All,



1 YANG patch and 9 Restconf issues have been solved and provided in
the drafts below.

These issues have been set to the status Review
(https://github.com/netconf-wg/restconf/issues).



Please check and comment on the drafts below before we go to WGLC soon:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-04

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netconf-yang-patch-03



Regards,
Mehmet






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#2: Terminology for reactive protocol document


Comment (by charliep@computer.org):

 The document has undergone many terminology simplifications and reductions
 in acronyms.  This issue should be closed.  If there are other specific
 suggestions for improvements, they should be opened as new issues.

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#2: Terminology for reactive protocol document

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#10: Reporting multiple broken routes whose metric types are different

Changes (by charliep@computer.org):

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Comment:

 It is not at all clear that this is a problem that would occur in real
 networks.  Metrics for anything other than hop-count would essentially
 trigger unicast RERR messages anyway and there would be little gain from
 the aggregation.  For this reason, the feature should not be required, due
 to the added cost of implementation.  The specification should explain
 this, and then the issue can be closed.

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 Severity:  Active WG Document       |  Resolution:  fixed
 Keywords:  RERR, alternate metrics  |
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#16: The Reactive Protocol Duplicate Suppression Table


Comment (by charliep@computer.org):

 This change will be incorporated into the upcoming new revision of the
 specification.  The cost is adding one more field to the table, which is
 now to be called the Multicast !RteMsg table.  The other changes to the
 specification are straightforward with little or no complications other
 than making sure that the relevant language in the specification has all
 been checked.  If this is satisfactory, then upon review of the revised
 text the issue can be closed.

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#23: Format of processing algorithms

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Comment:

 This issue can be closed and relevant comments instead directed towards
 issue #24.

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Component:  aodvv2                 |     Version:
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#23: Format of processing algorithms

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     Type:  defect                 |      Status:  reopened
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Component:  aodvv2                 |     Version:
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#24: Ordering of processing instructions

Changes (by charliep@computer.org):

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 * resolution:   => fixed


Comment:

 This issue can be closed and comments and comments instead directed to
 issue #23.

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#27: Processing AckReq

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Comment:

 In addition to the above, the description of processing for RREP_Ack has
 been greatly expanded.

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#30: Use of word "node"

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Comment:

 The uses of "node" in the document have been checked, and many were
 changed to "addr" instead as noted in previous emails.  More specific
 terminology has been used where appropriate.

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#32: Multicast transmission

Changes (by charliep@computer.org):

 * status:  new => closed
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Comment:

 After reviewing the comments above, it seems that the following language
 will resolve the issue:

   "Implementations are free to choose their own heuristics for
   reducing multicast overhead. Some methods for doing so are
   described in [RFC6621]."

 Inconsistent implementation across a network does not failure, but instead
 just reduces the effectiveness of the overhead reduction.

 With this modification, the issue should be closed.

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#46: What is needed from IP and ICMP (submitted for Chris Dearlove)


Comment (by charliep@computer.org):

 The following text is proposed to resolve this issue:

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 Appendix G.  Features of IP needed by AODVv2

 AODVv2 needs the following:

    o  information that IP routes are requested

    o  information that packets are flowing

    o  the ability to queue packets.

 A reactive protocol reacts when a route is needed.  One might say that a
 route is requested when an application tries to send a packet.  The
 fundamental concept of reactive routing is to avoid creating routes that
 are not needed, and the way that has been used to know whether a route is
 needed is when an application tries to send a packet.

 If an application tries to send a packet, and the route is not available,
 the packet has to wait until the route is available.


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 If this text is sufficient to explain what is needed from IP and ICMP and
 from commodity OSs, then the issue should be closed.

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#34: Section 13 must be removed


Comment (by charliep@computer.org):

 The implementation of RREP_Ack is no longer optional.  The specification
 for the other optional features has been reviewed and improvements made.
 If there are further difficulties with the specification language they
 should be identified and fixed.  However, since the optional features and
 their uses are well known, and offer performance improvements, removal
 does not seem warranted.

 Unless there are specific difficulties identified, this issue should be
 closed.

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 Reporter:  charliep@computer.org  |       Owner:  charliep@computer.org
     Type:  defect                 |      Status:  new
 Priority:  major                  |   Milestone:
Component:  aodvv2                 |     Version:
 Severity:  Active WG Document     |  Resolution:
 Keywords:                         |
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Ticket URL: <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/manet/trac/ticket/34#comment:3>
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Hello folks,

Issue resolutions have been discussed on the mailing list, so that some
of the issues can be closed.  Issue #24 was closed and comments can be
redirected to issue #23.  New text for the processing algorithms has been
developed, and the ordering of the sections reorganized in a way that
is much more orderly and regular.  Similarly it is suggested that comments
about implementation on commodity OSs should be redirected towards
the proposed resolution for issue #46.

Resolutions for the remaining issues have been developed by the
editorial team and will be forthcoming in the next few days for
discussion on the mailing list.

Please excuse the rain of spam from the IETF issue tracker on these
matters.

Regards,
Charlie P.


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#40: AckReq vs RREP_ACK

Changes (by charliep@computer.org):

 * status:  new => closed
 * resolution:   => invalid


Comment:

 The !AckReq is a message TLV that requests a RREP_Ack message from the
 upstream neighbor receiving the RREP.  These are related but complementary
 functions.  Given this understanding, the issue does not require any
 revisions to the specification, and will be closed.

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 Reporter:  lotte.steenbrink@fu-berlin.de  |       Owner:
     Type:  defect                         |  charliep@computer.org
 Priority:  minor                          |      Status:  closed
Component:  aodvv2                         |   Milestone:
 Severity:  Active WG Document             |     Version:
 Keywords:                                 |  Resolution:  invalid
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#61: Difference between "broken" and "expired" (Submitted for Justin Dean)

Changes (by charliep@computer.org):

 * status:  new => closed
 * resolution:   => fixed


Comment:

 Except for the possibility of differences in error logging, the two states
 do not lead to any differences in processing.  They can be coalesced into
 a single state, which may properly be called the "Invalid" state.  No
 difficulties have been observed or mentioned on the mailing list.  With
 this resolution, the issue can be closed.  The corresponding changes have
 been made to the specification document.

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 Reporter:  charliep@computer.org  |       Owner:  Charles Perkins
     Type:  defect                 |      Status:  closed
 Priority:  minor                  |   Milestone:
Component:  aodvv2                 |     Version:
 Severity:  Active WG Document     |  Resolution:  fixed
 Keywords:  broken, expired        |
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Please submit your requests for slots during the MANET meeting to the
chairs and me by March 2. In the request, include the approximate time
that you would like to get for your slot.

The chairs have requested a 2.5 hours slot for the whole meeting.

Thanks
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Multi-Topology Extension for the Optimized Link State Routing Protocol version 2 (OLSRv2)
        Authors         : Christopher Dearlove
                          Thomas Heide Clausen
	Filename        : draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology-05.txt
	Pages           : 21
	Date            : 2015-02-20

Abstract:
   This specification describes an extension to the Optimized Link State
   Routing Protocol version 2 (OLSRv2) to support multiple routing
   topologies, while retaining interoperability with OLSRv2 routers that
   do not implement this extension.

   This specification updates RFC 7181 by creating an interoperable
   extension to it.  This specification updates RFC 7188 and RFC XXXX by
   modifying and extending TLV registries and descriptions.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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The preliminary agenda for the upcoming IETF meeting has been posted:
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MANET will meet on Wednesday, March 25, 9am-11.30am CDT in the Royal room.


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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC6130,
"Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) Neighborhood Discovery Protocol (NHDP)".

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You may review the report below and at:
http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=6130&eid=4276

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Type: Editorial
Reported by: Christopher Dearlove <chris.dearlove@baesystems.com>

Section: Section 12.6

Original Text
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               then create a 2-Hop Neighbor Tuple with:


Corrected Text
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               then create a 2-Hop Tuple with:


Notes
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There is no such thing as a 2-Hop Neighbor Tuple. There is a 2-Hop Tuple (which is what is meant) but also a Neighbor Tuple (which is not meant).

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RFC6130 (draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-15)
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Title               : Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) Neighborhood Discovery Protocol (NHDP)
Publication Date    : April 2011
Author(s)           : T. Clausen, C. Dearlove, J. Dean
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Mobile Ad-hoc Networks
Area                : Routing
Stream              : IETF
Verifying Party     : IESG


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Hi all,

I have a few comments on the behaviour of an AODVv2 router when it loses it=
s sequence number (and the same behaviour applies at boot time too). I wond=
er if anyone else has any thoughts?

When our router has lost its SeqNum, we want to avoid any renewal of routes=
 we originated, i.e. routes to our Router Clients. Those are the only route=
s in the network associated with our old SeqNum.

1. Why would we not forward RREQ or RREP originated by another router? Thes=
e don't renew any information relating to the router's own SeqNum.

2. Similar to point 1, if the router's SeqNum is lost, why would it mark th=
e routes it has learned so far as Invalid? They have nothing to do with the=
 lost SeqNum. We can safely forward data to other destinations. The router =
could actually still forward data packets to its Router Clients, as long as=
 SeqNum information about those routes is deleted from other routers at MAX=
_SEQNUM_LIFETIME after it was learned.

3. If all routes are marked as Invalid on a router with lost SeqNum, what h=
appens if during the wait period, RREQs and RREPs are received? The draft s=
ays they get processed, so they should update the route state from Invalid.=
 The router is not allowed to regenerate the RteMsg, but can it use those r=
outes to forward packets? Or do we need to check before forwarding a packet=
 that we are not in the lost SeqNum wait period? Would we buffer any arrivi=
ng packets, or send RERR?

4. As an optional feature, should the router store any RREQs it would have =
responded to if it wasn't in the waiting period, and respond to them after =
the MAX_SEQNUM_LIFETIME timeout? Otherwise, other routers could have sent R=
REQs which were ignored, and reached the maximum number of retries and be w=
aiting the RREQ_HOLDDOWN_TIME before retrying, delaying the restart in conn=
ectivity.

5. I know the idea of sending a RERR about a router client doesn't quite ma=
ke sense, but hypothetically, if we were to send a RERR about all our Route=
r Clients when we realise our SeqNum is lost, could the special sequence nu=
mber of zero be used in the RERR to indicate that routers receiving the RER=
R should reset or delete any previous information? Then we can start using =
our new SeqNum sooner? We might not be able to rely on this RERR reaching a=
ll the routers in the network though.

Any comments are welcome.

Regards,
Victoria Mercieca


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi all,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have a few comments on the behaviour of an AODVv2 =
router when it loses its sequence number (and the same behaviour applies at=
 boot time too). I wonder if anyone else has any thoughts?</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">When our router has lost its SeqNum, we want to avoi=
d any renewal of routes we originated, i.e. routes to our Router Clients. T=
hose are the only routes in the network associated with our old SeqNum.
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">1. Why would we not forward RREQ or RREP originated =
by another router? These don&#8217;t renew any information relating to the =
router&#8217;s own SeqNum.
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">2. Similar to point 1, if the router&#8217;s SeqNum =
is lost, why would it mark the routes it has learned so far as Invalid? The=
y have nothing to do with the lost SeqNum. We can safely forward data to ot=
her destinations. The router could actually
 still forward data packets to its Router Clients, as long as SeqNum inform=
ation about those routes is deleted from other routers at MAX_SEQNUM_LIFETI=
ME after it was learned.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">3. If all routes are marked as Invalid on a router w=
ith lost SeqNum, what happens if during the wait period, RREQs and RREPs ar=
e received? The draft says they get processed, so they should update the ro=
ute state from Invalid. The router
 is not allowed to regenerate the RteMsg, but can it use those routes to fo=
rward packets? Or do we need to check before forwarding a packet that we ar=
e not in the lost SeqNum wait period? Would we buffer any arriving packets,=
 or send RERR?
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">4. As an optional feature, should the router store a=
ny RREQs it would have responded to if it wasn't in the waiting period, and=
 respond to them after the MAX_SEQNUM_LIFETIME timeout? Otherwise, other ro=
uters could have sent RREQs which
 were ignored, and reached the maximum number of retries and be waiting the=
 RREQ_HOLDDOWN_TIME before retrying, delaying the restart in connectivity.<=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">5. I know the idea of sending a RERR about a router =
client doesn't quite make sense, but hypothetically, if we were to send a R=
ERR about all our Router Clients when we realise our SeqNum is lost, could =
the special sequence number of zero
 be used in the RERR to indicate that routers receiving the RERR should res=
et or delete any previous information? Then we can start using our new SeqN=
um sooner? We might not be able to rely on this RERR reaching all the route=
rs in the network though.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Any comments are welcome.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Regards,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"">Victoria Mercieca=
</span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"">&nbsp;</span></b>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"">&nbsp;</span></b>=
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The following errata report has been verified for RFC6130,
"Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) Neighborhood Discovery Protocol (NHDP)". 

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You may review the report below and at:
http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=6130&eid=4276

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Status: Verified
Type: Editorial

Reported by: Christopher Dearlove <chris.dearlove@baesystems.com>
Date Reported: 2015-02-23
Verified by: Adrian Farrel (IESG)

Section: Section 12.6

Original Text
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               then create a 2-Hop Neighbor Tuple with:


Corrected Text
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               then create a 2-Hop Tuple with:


Notes
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There is no such thing as a 2-Hop Neighbor Tuple. There is a 2-Hop Tuple (which is what is meant) but also a Neighbor Tuple (which is not meant).

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RFC6130 (draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-15)
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Title               : Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) Neighborhood Discovery Protocol (NHDP)
Publication Date    : April 2011
Author(s)           : T. Clausen, C. Dearlove, J. Dean
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Mobile Ad-hoc Networks
Area                : Routing
Stream              : IETF
Verifying Party     : IESG


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#34: Section 13 must be removed

Changes (by charliep@computer.org):

 * status:  new => closed
 * resolution:   => fixed


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#31: Suitability for implementation on commodity OS


Comment (by charliep@computer.org):

 The following appendix has been added:

 -----------------------------------------------------

 Appendix G.  Features of IP needed by AODVv2

    AODVv2 needs the following:

    o  information that IP routes are requested
    o  information that packets are flowing
    o  the ability to queue packets.

    Tautologically, a reactive protocol reacts when a route is needed.
    One might say that a route is requested when an application tries to
    send a packet.  The fundamental concept of reactive routing is to
    avoid creating routes that are not needed, and the way that has been
    used to know whether a route is needed is when an application tries
    to send a packet.

    If an application tries to send a packet, and the route is available,
    the packet has to wait until the route is available.

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 With this informational text, the issue should be closed.

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#42: What happens if Active routes exceed RERR packet size?


Comment (by charliep@computer.org):

 The section for RERR now specifies that multiple RERR messages should be
 sent:

 --------------------------------------------------------------

        *  If the RERR was triggered by a broken link, include the
           addresses of all previously Active routes which are now
           Invalid, up to the limit imposed by the MTU (interface
           "Maximum Transfer Unit") of the physical medium.  If there are
           too many such previously Active routes, additional RERR
           messages should be constructed and transmitted to contain the
           remaining addresses.

 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

 With this modification, the issue can now be closed.

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Hi,

>From the latest revision of the draft (
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-aodvv2-06), I don't know how
the ticket is fixed.

For example, there are still definition of state "expired" and "broken".
Those two terms are still used in the drafts.

It's very kind that the author creates tickets based on the comments from
other participants -- I appreciate the efforts. But on the other hand, I
believe it would be even better to verify the issue with the one who raised
the comments before closing related tickets.

This comment applies to other tickets.

regards

Jiazi

On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:35 AM, manet issue tracker <
trac+manet@trac.tools.ietf.org> wrote:

> #61: Difference between "broken" and "expired" (Submitted for Justin Dean)
>
> Changes (by charliep@computer.org):
>
>  * status:  new => closed
>  * resolution:   => fixed
>
>
> Comment:
>
>  Except for the possibility of differences in error logging, the two states
>  do not lead to any differences in processing.  They can be coalesced into
>  a single state, which may properly be called the "Invalid" state.  No
>  difficulties have been observed or mentioned on the mailing list.  With
>  this resolution, the issue can be closed.  The corresponding changes have
>  been made to the specification document.
>
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>  Reporter:  charliep@computer.org  |       Owner:  Charles Perkins
>      Type:  defect                 |      Status:  closed
>  Priority:  minor                  |   Milestone:
> Component:  aodvv2                 |     Version:
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>  Keywords:  broken, expired        |
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>From the latest revision of t=
he draft (<a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-aodvv2-06"=
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-aodvv2-06</a>), I don&#39;t kn=
ow how the ticket is fixed.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>For example, the=
re are still definition of state &quot;expired&quot; and &quot;broken&quot;=
. Those two terms are still used in the drafts.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><=
div>It&#39;s very kind that the author creates tickets based on the comment=
s from other participants -- I appreciate the efforts. But on the other han=
d, I believe it would be even better to verify the issue with the one who r=
aised the comments before closing related tickets.=C2=A0</div><div><br></di=
v><div>This comment applies to other tickets.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><di=
v>regards</div><div><br></div><div>Jiazi</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_ext=
ra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:35 AM, manet i=
ssue tracker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:trac+manet@trac.tools.=
ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">trac+manet@trac.tools.ietf.org</a>&gt;</span> w=
rote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">#61: Difference be=
tween &quot;broken&quot; and &quot;expired&quot; (Submitted for Justin Dean=
)<br>
<br>
</span>Changes (by <a href=3D"mailto:charliep@computer.org">charliep@comput=
er.org</a>):<br>
<br>
=C2=A0* status:=C2=A0 new =3D&gt; closed<br>
=C2=A0* resolution:=C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D&gt; fixed<br>
<br>
<br>
Comment:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0Except for the possibility of differences in error logging, the two s=
tates<br>
=C2=A0do not lead to any differences in processing.=C2=A0 They can be coale=
sced into<br>
=C2=A0a single state, which may properly be called the &quot;Invalid&quot; =
state.=C2=A0 No<br>
=C2=A0difficulties have been observed or mentioned on the mailing list.=C2=
=A0 With<br>
=C2=A0this resolution, the issue can be closed.=C2=A0 The corresponding cha=
nges have<br>
=C2=A0been made to the specification document.<br>
<br>
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=C2=A0Keywords:=C2=A0 broken, expired=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |<br>
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Ticket URL: &lt;<a href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/manet/trac/ticket/=
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Hello Jiazi,

A new revision of the draft will be forthcoming very shortly with this issue
resolution incorporated.  If there is any doubt or concern the ticket can be
reopened.

In this case, the request was to coalesce the states.  The states were
coalesced after a thoroughgoing review of the draft.

Regards,
Charlie P.

On 2/24/2015 3:36 PM, Jiazi YI wrote:
> Hi,
>
> From the latest revision of the draft 
> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-aodvv2-06), I don't know 
> how the ticket is fixed.
>
> For example, there are still definition of state "expired" and 
> "broken". Those two terms are still used in the drafts.
>
> It's very kind that the author creates tickets based on the comments 
> from other participants -- I appreciate the efforts. But on the other 
> hand, I believe it would be even better to verify the issue with the 
> one who raised the comments before closing related tickets.
>
> This comment applies to other tickets.
>
> regards
>
> Jiazi
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:35 AM, manet issue tracker 
> <trac+manet@trac.tools.ietf.org 
> <mailto:trac+manet@trac.tools.ietf.org>> wrote:
>
>     #61: Difference between "broken" and "expired" (Submitted for
>     Justin Dean)
>
>     Changes (by charliep@computer.org <mailto:charliep@computer.org>):
>
>      * status:  new => closed
>      * resolution:   => fixed
>
>
>     Comment:
>
>      Except for the possibility of differences in error logging, the
>     two states
>      do not lead to any differences in processing.  They can be
>     coalesced into
>      a single state, which may properly be called the "Invalid" state.  No
>      difficulties have been observed or mentioned on the mailing
>     list.  With
>      this resolution, the issue can be closed.  The corresponding
>     changes have
>      been made to the specification document.
>
>     --
>     -----------------------------------+------------------------------
>      Reporter: charliep@computer.org <mailto:charliep@computer.org> | 
>          Owner:  Charles Perkins
>          Type:  defect                 |      Status: closed
>      Priority:  minor                  |  Milestone:
>     Component:  aodvv2                 |     Version:
>      Severity:  Active WG Document     |  Resolution: fixed
>      Keywords:  broken, expired        |
>     -----------------------------------+------------------------------
>
>     Ticket URL:
>     <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/manet/trac/ticket/61#comment:1>
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    Hello Jiazi,<br>
    <br>
    A new revision of the draft will be forthcoming very shortly with
    this issue<br>
    resolution incorporated.  If there is any doubt or concern the
    ticket can be<br>
    reopened.<br>
    <br>
    In this case, the request was to coalesce the states.  The states
    were<br>
    coalesced after a thoroughgoing review of the draft.<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    Charlie P.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/24/2015 3:36 PM, Jiazi YI wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAN1bDFyDN+LX7FPTqUXp4iH=CCwxu5+9DxJoKNJ48iXTFWmo=A@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Hi, 
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>From the latest revision of the draft (<a
            moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-aodvv2-06">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-aodvv2-06</a>),
          I don't know how the ticket is fixed. </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>For example, there are still definition of state "expired"
          and "broken". Those two terms are still used in the drafts. </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>It's very kind that the author creates tickets based on the
          comments from other participants -- I appreciate the efforts.
          But on the other hand, I believe it would be even better to
          verify the issue with the one who raised the comments before
          closing related tickets. </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>This comment applies to other tickets. </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>regards</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Jiazi</div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:35 AM, manet
          issue tracker <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:trac+manet@trac.tools.ietf.org"
              target="_blank">trac+manet@trac.tools.ietf.org</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span
              class="">#61: Difference between "broken" and "expired"
              (Submitted for Justin Dean)<br>
              <br>
            </span>Changes (by <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:charliep@computer.org">charliep@computer.org</a>):<br>
            <br>
             * status:  new =&gt; closed<br>
             * resolution:   =&gt; fixed<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            Comment:<br>
            <br>
             Except for the possibility of differences in error logging,
            the two states<br>
             do not lead to any differences in processing.  They can be
            coalesced into<br>
             a single state, which may properly be called the "Invalid"
            state.  No<br>
             difficulties have been observed or mentioned on the mailing
            list.  With<br>
             this resolution, the issue can be closed.  The
            corresponding changes have<br>
             been made to the specification document.<br>
            <br>
            --<br>
-----------------------------------+------------------------------<br>
            <span class=""> Reporter:  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:charliep@computer.org">charliep@computer.org</a> 
              |       Owner:  Charles Perkins<br>
            </span>     Type:  defect                 |      Status: 
            closed<br>
            <span class=""> Priority:  minor                  | 
               Milestone:<br>
              Component:  aodvv2                 |     Version:<br>
            </span> Severity:  Active WG Document     |  Resolution: 
            fixed<br>
             Keywords:  broken, expired        |<br>
-----------------------------------+------------------------------<br>
            <br>
            Ticket URL: &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/manet/trac/ticket/61#comment:1"
              target="_blank">http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/manet/trac/ticket/61#comment:1</a>&gt;<br>
            <div class="HOEnZb">
              <div class="h5">manet &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://tools.ietf.org/manet/" target="_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/manet/</a>&gt;<br>
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Hi,

In my opinion, the ticket is fixed only when the comments are reflected in
a published draft. So the ticket can get closed when:

      - related modification is made in a published draft, and
      - the ticket creator (in the case for this ticket, the comment
raiser), or the WG agrees that the issue is resolved.

Regarding to this ticket, without the actual text, it's hard for the WG
participants to tell if the ticket is resolved or not (actually, it's
confusing when checking the issue tracker and the latest revision of the
draft).

best

Jiazi

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:05 AM, Charles E. Perkins <charliep@computer.org>
wrote:

>  Hello Jiazi,
>
> A new revision of the draft will be forthcoming very shortly with this
> issue
> resolution incorporated.  If there is any doubt or concern the ticket can
> be
> reopened.
>
> In this case, the request was to coalesce the states.  The states were
> coalesced after a thoroughgoing review of the draft.
>
> Regards,
> Charlie P.
>
>
> On 2/24/2015 3:36 PM, Jiazi YI wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>  From the latest revision of the draft (
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-aodvv2-06), I don't know how
> the ticket is fixed.
>
>  For example, there are still definition of state "expired" and "broken".
> Those two terms are still used in the drafts.
>
>  It's very kind that the author creates tickets based on the comments
> from other participants -- I appreciate the efforts. But on the other hand,
> I believe it would be even better to verify the issue with the one who
> raised the comments before closing related tickets.
>
>  This comment applies to other tickets.
>
>  regards
>
>  Jiazi
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:35 AM, manet issue tracker <
> trac+manet@trac.tools.ietf.org> wrote:
>
>> #61: Difference between "broken" and "expired" (Submitted for Justin Dean)
>>
>> Changes (by charliep@computer.org):
>>
>>  * status:  new => closed
>>  * resolution:   => fixed
>>
>>
>> Comment:
>>
>>  Except for the possibility of differences in error logging, the two
>> states
>>  do not lead to any differences in processing.  They can be coalesced into
>>  a single state, which may properly be called the "Invalid" state.  No
>>  difficulties have been observed or mentioned on the mailing list.  With
>>  this resolution, the issue can be closed.  The corresponding changes have
>>  been made to the specification document.
>>
>> --
>> -----------------------------------+------------------------------
>>  Reporter:  charliep@computer.org  |       Owner:  Charles Perkins
>>      Type:  defect                 |      Status:  closed
>>  Priority:  minor                  |   Milestone:
>> Component:  aodvv2                 |     Version:
>>  Severity:  Active WG Document     |  Resolution:  fixed
>>  Keywords:  broken, expired        |
>> -----------------------------------+------------------------------
>>
>> Ticket URL: <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/manet/trac/ticket/61#comment:1
>> >
>>  manet <http://tools.ietf.org/manet/>
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> --
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>In my opinion, the ticket is =
fixed only when the comments are reflected in a published draft. So the tic=
ket can get closed when:</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - re=
lated modification is made in a published draft, and=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - the ticket creator (in the case for this ticket, the comme=
nt raiser), or the WG agrees that the issue is resolved.=C2=A0</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Regarding to this ticket, without the actual text, it&#39;s ha=
rd for the WG participants to tell if the ticket is resolved or not (actual=
ly, it&#39;s confusing when checking the issue tracker and the latest revis=
ion of the draft).=C2=A0</div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra">best</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_extra">Jiazi</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:05 AM, Charles E. Perkins <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:charliep@computer.org" target=3D"_blank">=
charliep@computer.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
    Hello Jiazi,<br>
    <br>
    A new revision of the draft will be forthcoming very shortly with
    this issue<br>
    resolution incorporated.=C2=A0 If there is any doubt or concern the
    ticket can be<br>
    reopened.<br>
    <br>
    In this case, the request was to coalesce the states.=C2=A0 The states
    were<br>
    coalesced after a thoroughgoing review of the draft.<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    Charlie P.<div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
    <br>
    <div>On 2/24/2015 3:36 PM, Jiazi YI wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,=C2=A0
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>From the latest revision of the draft (<a href=3D"http://tools=
.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-aodvv2-06" target=3D"_blank">http://tools.i=
etf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-aodvv2-06</a>),
          I don&#39;t know how the ticket is fixed.=C2=A0</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>For example, there are still definition of state &quot;expired=
&quot;
          and &quot;broken&quot;. Those two terms are still used in the dra=
fts.=C2=A0</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>It&#39;s very kind that the author creates tickets based on th=
e
          comments from other participants -- I appreciate the efforts.
          But on the other hand, I believe it would be even better to
          verify the issue with the one who raised the comments before
          closing related tickets.=C2=A0</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>This comment applies to other tickets.=C2=A0</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>regards</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Jiazi</div>
      </div>
      <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:35 AM, manet
          issue tracker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:trac+manet@=
trac.tools.ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">trac+manet@trac.tools.ietf.org</a>&g=
t;</span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>#61: Difference between &quo=
t;broken&quot; and &quot;expired&quot;
              (Submitted for Justin Dean)<br>
              <br>
            </span>Changes (by <a href=3D"mailto:charliep@computer.org" tar=
get=3D"_blank">charliep@computer.org</a>):<br>
            <br>
            =C2=A0* status:=C2=A0 new =3D&gt; closed<br>
            =C2=A0* resolution:=C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D&gt; fixed<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            Comment:<br>
            <br>
            =C2=A0Except for the possibility of differences in error loggin=
g,
            the two states<br>
            =C2=A0do not lead to any differences in processing.=C2=A0 They =
can be
            coalesced into<br>
            =C2=A0a single state, which may properly be called the &quot;In=
valid&quot;
            state.=C2=A0 No<br>
            =C2=A0difficulties have been observed or mentioned on the maili=
ng
            list.=C2=A0 With<br>
            =C2=A0this resolution, the issue can be closed.=C2=A0 The
            corresponding changes have<br>
            =C2=A0been made to the specification document.<br>
            <br>
            --<br>
-----------------------------------+------------------------------<br>
            <span>=C2=A0Reporter:=C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:charliep@computer=
.org" target=3D"_blank">charliep@computer.org</a>=C2=A0
              |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Owner:=C2=A0 Charles Perkins<br>
            </span>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Type:=C2=A0 defect=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Status:=
=C2=A0
            closed<br>
            <span>=C2=A0Priority:=C2=A0 minor=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0
              =C2=A0Milestone:<br>
              Component:=C2=A0 aodvv2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Version:<br>
            </span>=C2=A0Severity:=C2=A0 Active WG Document=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0|=C2=A0 Resolution:=C2=A0
            fixed<br>
            =C2=A0Keywords:=C2=A0 broken, expired=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 |<br>
-----------------------------------+------------------------------<br>
            <br>
            Ticket URL: &lt;<a href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/manet/=
trac/ticket/61#comment:1" target=3D"_blank">http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/m=
anet/trac/ticket/61#comment:1</a>&gt;<br>
            <div>
              <div>manet &lt;<a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/manet/" targe=
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Hello Jiazi,

I think that's a very reasonable request.  I hope you'll be willing to
take a look!

Regards,
Charlie P.


On 2/24/2015 4:24 PM, Jiazi YI wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In my opinion, the ticket is fixed only when the comments are 
> reflected in a published draft. So the ticket can get closed when:
>
>       - related modification is made in a published draft, and
>       - the ticket creator (in the case for this ticket, the comment 
> raiser), or the WG agrees that the issue is resolved.
>
> Regarding to this ticket, without the actual text, it's hard for the 
> WG participants to tell if the ticket is resolved or not (actually, 
> it's confusing when checking the issue tracker and the latest revision 
> of the draft).
>
> best
>
> Jiazi
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:05 AM, Charles E. Perkins 
> <charliep@computer.org <mailto:charliep@computer.org>> wrote:
>
>     Hello Jiazi,
>
>     A new revision of the draft will be forthcoming very shortly with
>     this issue
>     resolution incorporated.  If there is any doubt or concern the
>     ticket can be
>     reopened.
>
>     In this case, the request was to coalesce the states. The states were
>     coalesced after a thoroughgoing review of the draft.
>
>     Regards,
>     Charlie P.
>
>
>     On 2/24/2015 3:36 PM, Jiazi YI wrote:
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     From the latest revision of the draft
>>     (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-aodvv2-06), I don't
>>     know how the ticket is fixed.
>>
>>     For example, there are still definition of state "expired" and
>>     "broken". Those two terms are still used in the drafts.
>>
>>     It's very kind that the author creates tickets based on the
>>     comments from other participants -- I appreciate the efforts. But
>>     on the other hand, I believe it would be even better to verify
>>     the issue with the one who raised the comments before closing
>>     related tickets.
>>
>>     This comment applies to other tickets.
>>
>>     regards
>>
>>     Jiazi
>>
>>     On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:35 AM, manet issue tracker
>>     <trac+manet@trac.tools.ietf.org
>>     <mailto:trac+manet@trac.tools.ietf.org>> wrote:
>>
>>         #61: Difference between "broken" and "expired" (Submitted for
>>         Justin Dean)
>>
>>         Changes (by charliep@computer.org
>>         <mailto:charliep@computer.org>):
>>
>>          * status:  new => closed
>>          * resolution:   => fixed
>>
>>
>>         Comment:
>>
>>          Except for the possibility of differences in error logging,
>>         the two states
>>          do not lead to any differences in processing.  They can be
>>         coalesced into
>>          a single state, which may properly be called the "Invalid"
>>         state.  No
>>          difficulties have been observed or mentioned on the mailing
>>         list.  With
>>          this resolution, the issue can be closed.  The corresponding
>>         changes have
>>          been made to the specification document.
>>
>>         --
>>         -----------------------------------+------------------------------
>>          Reporter: charliep@computer.org
>>         <mailto:charliep@computer.org> |       Owner:  Charles Perkins
>>              Type:  defect  |      Status:  closed
>>          Priority:  minor |   Milestone:
>>         Component:  aodvv2                 |  Version:
>>          Severity:  Active WG Document  |  Resolution:  fixed
>>          Keywords:  broken, expired        |
>>         -----------------------------------+------------------------------
>>
>>         Ticket URL:
>>         <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/manet/trac/ticket/61#comment:1>
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>     -- 
>     Regards,
>     Charlie P.
>
>

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    Hello Jiazi,<br>
    <br>
    I think that's a very reasonable request.  I hope you'll be willing
    to<br>
    take a look!<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    Charlie P.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/24/2015 4:24 PM, Jiazi YI wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAN1bDFw+cyE-CA7ibGHo1cTB-zzH+Fds57jVg6Sj9z+LrLuWcQ@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Hi, 
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>In my opinion, the ticket is fixed only when the comments
          are reflected in a published draft. So the ticket can get
          closed when:</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>      - related modification is made in a published draft,
          and </div>
        <div>      - the ticket creator (in the case for this ticket,
          the comment raiser), or the WG agrees that the issue is
          resolved. </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Regarding to this ticket, without the actual text, it's
          hard for the WG participants to tell if the ticket is resolved
          or not (actually, it's confusing when checking the issue
          tracker and the latest revision of the draft). </div>
        <div>
          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
          </div>
          <div class="gmail_extra">best</div>
          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
          </div>
          <div class="gmail_extra">Jiazi</div>
          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:05 AM,
              Charles E. Perkins <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:charliep@computer.org" target="_blank">charliep@computer.org</a>&gt;</span>
              wrote:<br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hello Jiazi,<br>
                  <br>
                  A new revision of the draft will be forthcoming very
                  shortly with this issue<br>
                  resolution incorporated.  If there is any doubt or
                  concern the ticket can be<br>
                  reopened.<br>
                  <br>
                  In this case, the request was to coalesce the states. 
                  The states were<br>
                  coalesced after a thoroughgoing review of the draft.<br>
                  <br>
                  Regards,<br>
                  Charlie P.
                  <div>
                    <div class="h5"><br>
                      <br>
                      <div>On 2/24/2015 3:36 PM, Jiazi YI wrote:<br>
                      </div>
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <div dir="ltr">Hi, 
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>From the latest revision of the draft (<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-aodvv2-06"
                              target="_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-aodvv2-06</a>),

                            I don't know how the ticket is fixed. </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>For example, there are still definition
                            of state "expired" and "broken". Those two
                            terms are still used in the drafts. </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>It's very kind that the author creates
                            tickets based on the comments from other
                            participants -- I appreciate the efforts.
                            But on the other hand, I believe it would be
                            even better to verify the issue with the one
                            who raised the comments before closing
                            related tickets. </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>This comment applies to other tickets. </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>regards</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Jiazi</div>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 18, 2015
                            at 5:35 AM, manet issue tracker <span
                              dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:trac+manet@trac.tools.ietf.org"
                                target="_blank">trac+manet@trac.tools.ietf.org</a>&gt;</span>
                            wrote:<br>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                              style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
                              #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>#61:
                                Difference between "broken" and
                                "expired" (Submitted for Justin Dean)<br>
                                <br>
                              </span>Changes (by <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:charliep@computer.org"
                                target="_blank">charliep@computer.org</a>):<br>
                              <br>
                               * status:  new =&gt; closed<br>
                               * resolution:   =&gt; fixed<br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              Comment:<br>
                              <br>
                               Except for the possibility of differences
                              in error logging, the two states<br>
                               do not lead to any differences in
                              processing.  They can be coalesced into<br>
                               a single state, which may properly be
                              called the "Invalid" state.  No<br>
                               difficulties have been observed or
                              mentioned on the mailing list.  With<br>
                               this resolution, the issue can be
                              closed.  The corresponding changes have<br>
                               been made to the specification document.<br>
                              <br>
                              --<br>
-----------------------------------+------------------------------<br>
                              <span> Reporter:  <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:charliep@computer.org"
                                  target="_blank">charliep@computer.org</a> 
                                |       Owner:  Charles Perkins<br>
                              </span>     Type:  defect               
                               |      Status:  closed<br>
                              <span> Priority:  minor                 
                                |   Milestone:<br>
                                Component:  aodvv2                 |   
                                 Version:<br>
                              </span> Severity:  Active WG Document   
                               |  Resolution:  fixed<br>
                               Keywords:  broken, expired        |<br>
-----------------------------------+------------------------------<br>
                              <br>
                              Ticket URL: &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP)
        Authors         : Stan Ratliff
                          Bo Berry
                          Darryl Satterwhite
                          Rick Taylor
	Filename        : draft-ietf-manet-dlep-08.txt
	Pages           : 63
	Date            : 2015-02-27

Abstract:
   When routing devices rely on modems to effect communications over
   wireless links, they need timely and accurate knowledge of the
   characteristics of the link (speed, state, etc.) in order to make
   forwarding decisions.  In mobile or other environments where these
   characteristics change frequently, manual configurations or the
   inference of state through routing or transport protocols does not
   allow the router to make the best decisions.  A bidirectional, event-
   driven communication channel between the router and the modem is
   necessary.


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On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 5:47 PM,  <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
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>  This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group of the IETF.
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>         Title           : Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP)
...
>         Filename        : draft-ietf-manet-dlep-08.txt

Great to see revision 08 of DLEP... I am looking forward to adapt the
Olsr.org implementation to it.

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Henning,

Good to hear. Have you had a chance to review? Any comments are
appreciated.

Regards,
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> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 5:47 PM,  <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
> >
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> >  This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group
> of the IETF.
> >
> >         Title           : Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP)
> ...
> >         Filename        : draft-ietf-manet-dlep-08.txt
>
> Great to see revision 08 of DLEP... I am looking forward to adapt the
> Olsr.org implementation to it.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Henning,=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Good to hear. Have you h=
ad a chance to review? Any comments are appreciated.=C2=A0</div><div><br></=
div><div>Regards,</div><div>Stan</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 4:39 AM, Henning Rogg=
e <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hrogge@gmail.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">hrogge@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
>On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 5:47 PM,=C2=A0 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:internet-draf=
ts@ietf.org">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts dir=
ectories.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working =
Group of the IETF.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
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...<br>
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 draft-ietf-manet-dlep-08.txt<br>
<br>
Great to see revision 08 of DLEP... I am looking forward to adapt the<br>
Olsr.org implementation to it.<br>
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On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Stan Ratliff <ratliffstan@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Good to hear. Have you had a chance to review? Any comments are appreciated.

I will read it completely next week... any major changes I should focus on?

Henning


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Henning,

The major changes are
1. Introduction of the extensions registry, and the "Extensions Supported"
TLV in the peer exchange (just a formalization of how we would support
extensions to the protocol in the future).
2. The "Experimental Definition" TLV, which was my understanding of our
on-list discussion about the Experimental TLV (both signal and data item
space), and how they would be defined and used.

Past that, the other changes were editorial in nature - but were a HUGE
lift and pain in the back-side for Rick (thanks to Rick for all the
cross-referencing work).

Regards,
Stan


On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Henning Rogge <hrogge@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Stan Ratliff <ratliffstan@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Henning,
> >
> > Good to hear. Have you had a chance to review? Any comments are
> appreciated.
>
> I will read it completely next week... any major changes I should focus on?
>
> Henning
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Henning,=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>The major changes are=C2=
=A0</div><div>1. Introduction of the extensions registry, and the &quot;Ext=
ensions Supported&quot; TLV in the peer exchange (just a formalization of h=
ow we would support extensions to the protocol in the future).=C2=A0</div><=
div>2. The &quot;Experimental Definition&quot; TLV, which was my understand=
ing of our on-list discussion about the Experimental TLV (both signal and d=
ata item space), and how they would be defined and used.=C2=A0</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Past that, the other changes were editorial in nature - but we=
re a HUGE lift and pain in the back-side for Rick (thanks to Rick for all t=
he cross-referencing work).=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><d=
iv>Stan</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Henning Rogge <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hrogge@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">hrogge@g=
mail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Sat, =
Feb 28, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Stan Ratliff &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ratliffstan@gma=
il.com">ratliffstan@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Henning,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Good to hear. Have you had a chance to review? Any comments are apprec=
iated.<br>
<br>
I will read it completely next week... any major changes I should focus on?=
<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Henning<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div>

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