From nobody Fri Mar 3 04:20:08 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24D81297F7 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2017 04:20:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6C5HUBsYiIsn for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2017 04:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxbk.iit.cnr.it (mxbk.iit.cnr.it [146.48.98.159]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 323F71294A1 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2017 04:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from turig.iit.cnr.it (turig.iit.cnr.it [146.48.98.70]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mxbk.iit.cnr.it (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C2786C0D58 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2017 13:20:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2017 13:20:01 +0100 From: Elisabetta Biondi To: manet@ietf.org Message-ID: <58b95f71.z1jl22Ao7N/3j4w/%smartvehicles17_publicity@iit.cnr.it> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [manet] EXTENDED SUBMISSION DEADLINE 15th MARCH - IEEE SmartVehicles 2017 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2017 12:20:06 -0000 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CALL FOR PAPER The Fourth IEEE WoWMoM Workshop on Smart Vehicles: Connectivity Technologies and ITS Applications (SmartVehicles 2017) June 12, 2017, Macau, China http://smartvehicles.uc.pt/ **** Paper Registration Deadline --- March 1, 2017 **** **** Paper Submission Deadline --- March 5, 2017 **** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SCOPE AND OVERVIEW -------------------------------- New wave of urbanization, ever more stringent emission standards, and high pressure on improving efficiency of private and public transport have made the development of more sustainable transportation systems one of the fundamental societal challenges of the next decade. Connected vehicles are seen as one of the key enabling technologies for more efficient and sustainable transportation systems. To enable connected vehicles, it is of paramount importance to: i) design vehicular communication systems that enable road users and other actors to exchange information in real time and with high reliability; ii) enable pervasive sensing to monitor the status of vehicles and the surroundings; iii) develop data analytics tools for processing large amounts of data generated by the transportation infrastructure; iv) develop middleware platforms for information management and sharing; and v) define appropriate interaction interfaces between drivers and vehicles. The seamless integration and convergence of vehicular communication networks, information and transportation systems, and mobile devices and networks will face a number of technical, economical and regulatory challenges. To that end, SmartVehicles 2017 workshop will bring together academics, researchers, and industry professionals from around the world to discuss and exchange ideas on recent developments, current research challenges and future directions in the use of networking, communications, data management, and applications to realize vehicular mobility systems that are more connected, efficient, and safe. The topics of interest for SmartVehicles 2017 include, but are not limited to: + V2V, V2I and V2X communications (e.g. vehicle-to-pedestrians, vehicle-to-backend, vehicle-to-sign, etc.) + New V2X technologies: Vehicular visible light communications, LTE-V, mmWave + The role of 5G in enabling existing and future V2X use cases + Connected autonomous vehicles: cooperative perception, cooperative maneuvering, cooperative intersections and highways, platooning + Vehicular Network as a Sensor Network + Communications-enabled fleet management + Connected smart parking systems + Security and privacy in ITS applications + Data storage, management, and retrieval in vehicular networks + Solutions to connect vehicles with the Internet + Big data analytics for ITS applications + Integration of cloud technologies in ITS applications + Communications protocol design (PHY, MAC, routing, data dissemination) + Simulation environments, experimental testbeds, field operational tests for V2X + Mobile (smart) device integration in vehicles and transport systems + ITS Field Tests and Implementation + Modelling and Simulation of ITS applications PAPER SUBMISSION AND PUBLICATION -------------------------------- Manuscripts submitted for consideration should not have been already published elsewhere and should not be under review or submitted for review elsewhere during the consideration period. 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IMPORTANT DATES --------------- + Papers registration deadline: March 1, 2017 + Papers submissions deadline: March 5, 2017 + Acceptance notification: April 15, 2017 + Camera-ready paper due: April 30, 2017 ORGANISING COMMITTEE -------------------- Workshop Co-Chairs Gaurav Bansal, Toyota InfoTechnology Center Mate Boban, Huawei European Research Center Raffaele Bruno, Institute of Informatics and Telematics of CNR Andreas Festag, Fraunhofer IVI Program Committee Taimoor Abbas, Volvo Cars, Sweden Onur Altintas, Toyota InfoTechnology Center, USA Jose M. Barcelo-Ordinas, UPC, Spain Teodor Buburuzan, Volkswagen, Germany David Eckhoff, University of Erlangen, Germany Esteban Egea-Lopez, UPCT, Spain Michel Ferreira, University of Porto, Portugal Marco Fiore, IEIIT-CNR, Italy Arturo Gonzalez, TU Dresden, Germany Javier Gozalvez, Miguel Hernandez University of Elche, Spain Marco Gramaglia, Universidad Carlos III de Madrid, Spain Jerome Harri, EURECOM, France Tim Leinmueller, Denso Automotive, Germany Kate Ching-Ju Lin, NCTU, Taiwan Tomasz Mach, Samsung Electronics Research, UK Konstantinos Manolakis, Huawei Technologies, Germany Preben Mogensen, Aalborg University, Danimark Panagiotis Papadimitratos, KTH, Sweden Tim Russ, IFAK, Germany Yi Shi, Huawei Technologies, P.R.China Peter Steenkiste, Carnegie Mellon University, USA Andrea Tomatis, Hitachi Europe, France Hsin-Mu Tsai, NTU, Taiwan Fredrik Tufvesson, Lund University, Sweden Alexey Vinel, Halmstad University, Sweden Xin Zhang, Technical University Dresden, Germany From nobody Fri Mar 3 15:57:18 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietf.org Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF9F12970F; Fri, 3 Mar 2017 15:55:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.46.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <148858532311.15846.14325098547399747900.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2017 15:55:23 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] manet - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 98 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2017 23:55:23 -0000 Dear Stan Ratliff, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. manet Session 1 (1:30:00) Thursday, Afternoon Session II 1520-1720 Room Name: Zurich B size: 100 --------------------------------------------- Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Area Name: Routing Area Session Requester: Stan Ratliff Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 1.5 Hours Number of Attendees: 50 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: roll rtgarea babel dtn teas Second Priority: ospf lisp People who must be present: Stan Ratliff Justin Dean Alvaro Retana Resources Requested: Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Sun Mar 5 18:17:55 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietf.org Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A293B124281; Sun, 5 Mar 2017 18:17:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.46.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <148876667466.26313.264916386192157618.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2017 18:17:54 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-28.txt X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 02:17:54 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks of the IETF. Title : Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP) Authors : Stan Ratliff Shawn Jury Darryl Satterwhite Rick Taylor Bo Berry Filename : draft-ietf-manet-dlep-28.txt Pages : 77 Date : 2017-03-05 Abstract: When routing devices rely on modems to effect communications over wireless links, they need timely and accurate knowledge of the characteristics of the link (speed, state, etc.) in order to make routing decisions. In mobile or other environments where these characteristics change frequently, manual configurations or the inference of state through routing or transport protocols does not allow the router to make the best decisions. DLEP describes a new protocol for a bidirectional, event-driven communication channel between the router and the modem to facilitate communication of changing link characteristics. 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The authors have submitted DLEP-28 to address your comments. Please let us know if this is sufficient. Additional comments inline. On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > Alexey Melnikov has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-manet-dlep-27: Discuss > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-dlep/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > DISCUSS: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is generally a well written document and I enjoyed reading it. > > I have one remaining question which I would like to quickly discuss > before recommending approval of this document: > > Section 14 (Security Considerations) now says: > > When TLS is in use, each peer SHOULD check the validity of > credentials presented by the other peer during TLS session > establishment. Mobile implementations MAY need to consider use of > pre-shared keys for credentials; implementations following the > "networked deployment" model described in Implementation Scenarios > SHOULD refer to [RFC7525] for additional details. > > RFC 7525 that you are referencing contains recommendations on version of > TLS and ciphersuites to use. > Section 6.1 of RFC 7525 talks about "Host Name Validation". I don't think > this section applies to DLEP. So can you elaborate on how server identity > is going to be verified using pre-shared keys and which parts of RFC 7525 > do you think apply to DLEP? > We have added text to clarify that "dedicated deployments" may need to provide their own host name validation. The reference to RFC 7525 is now limited to "networked deployments" (those deployments that are instantiated in existing networks with the requisite services). > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Thank you for addressing my earlier DISCUSS points. > > 13. DLEP Data Items > > Following is the list of core Data Items that MUST be recognized by > a > DLEP compliant implementation. As mentioned before, not all Data > Items need be used during a session, but an implementation MUST > correctly process these Data Items when correctly associated with a > Signal or Message. > > Is "skip over or ignore" a valid way to "correctly process"? I think so, > but > this might not be obvious from the text as written. > This text has been removed. Regards, Stan > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > --94eb2c0b07ead0425d054a069058 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alexey,=C2=A0

Thank you for the additio= nal feedback. The authors have submitted DLEP-28 to address your comments. = Please let us know if this is sufficient. Additional comments inline.
=

On Sun, Feb 12, 2= 017 at 2:22 PM, Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm> wrote:
Alexey Melnikov has entered the = following ballot position for
draft-ietf-manet-dlep-27: Discuss

When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this
introductory paragraph, however.)


Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/<= wbr>statement/discuss-criteria.html
for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.


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DISCUSS:
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This is generally a well written document and I enjoyed reading it.

I have one remaining question which I would like to quickly discuss
before recommending approval of this document:

Section 14 (Security Considerations) now says:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0When TLS is in use, each peer SHOULD check the validity of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0credentials presented by the other peer during TLS session
=C2=A0 =C2=A0establishment.=C2=A0 Mobile implementations MAY need to consid= er use of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0pre-shared keys for credentials; implementations following the=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0"networked deployment" model described in Implementa= tion Scenarios
=C2=A0 =C2=A0SHOULD refer to [RFC7525] for additional details.

RFC 7525 that you are referencing contains recommendations on version of TLS and ciphersuites to use.
Section 6.1 of RFC 7525 talks about "Host Name Validation". I don= 't think
this section applies to DLEP. So can you elaborate on how server identity is going to be verified using pre-shared keys and which parts of RFC 7525 do you think apply to DLEP?

We have add= ed text to clarify that "dedicated deployments" may need to provi= de their own host name validation. The reference to RFC 7525 is now limited= to "networked deployments" (those deployments that are instantia= ted in existing networks with the requisite services).=C2=A0
=C2= =A0


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COMMENT:
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Thank you for addressing my earlier DISCUSS points.

13.=C2=A0 DLEP Data Items

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Following is the list of core Data Items that MUST be recogniz= ed by
a
=C2=A0 =C2=A0DLEP compliant implementation.=C2=A0 As mentioned before, not = all Data
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Items need be used during a session, but an implementation MUS= T
=C2=A0 =C2=A0correctly process these Data Items when correctly associated w= ith a
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Signal or Message.

Is "skip over or ignore" a valid way to "correctly process&q= uot;? I think so,
but
this might not be obvious from the text as written.

This text has been removed.

Regards,
Stan

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--94eb2c0b07ead0425d054a069058-- From nobody Mon Mar 13 09:33:28 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietf.org Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809381297F3; Mon, 13 Mar 2017 09:33:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.47.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <148942280250.17047.18087601529686240381@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 09:33:22 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-01.txt X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 16:33:22 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks of the IETF. Title : DLEP DiffServ Aware Credit Windowing Extension Authors : Bow-Nan Cheng David Wiggins Lou Berger Filename : draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-01.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2017-03-13 Abstract: This document defines an extension to the DLEP protocol that enables a DiffServ aware credit-windowing scheme for destination-specific flow control. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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I/We expect to cover a proposal on how to address issues A.2 and A.3 in the Chicago Session. We also hope to have related text available for review before the session too. Thanks, Lou (and co-authors) -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [manet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-01.txt Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 09:33:22 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org CC: manet@ietf.org A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks of the IETF. Title : DLEP DiffServ Aware Credit Windowing Extension Authors : Bow-Nan Cheng David Wiggins Lou Berger Filename : draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-01.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2017-03-13 Abstract: This document defines an extension to the DLEP protocol that enables a DiffServ aware credit-windowing scheme for destination-specific flow control. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From nobody Sat Mar 25 10:13:29 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D49129416; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:13:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=thomasclausen.org Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2AoCS7uHA5ry; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailb2.tigertech.net (mailb2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 011BD129481; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailb2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02F41C5B87; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:13:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=thomasclausen.org; s=1.tigertech; t=1490462004; bh=BpTR0k+2swbbqGIM20p2YfefZqtkPo83ubbaOK+uwX4=; h=From:Date:Subject:To:From; b=h0T23j832kqa+3u+0fzHV/2pqJDm92ZtgxSiv5pHw2uoeRcLyL20wG80g37FQXIr/ QZAVU+9FzYiZrvJItEa+oGXgxteERiPNjmLkaSipcBvYp6te4cXCfnRnjQRyD5At1f BukNEWrMYsnZUtPE0Ed86c8E8fPAFcuk2lycjPH8= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at b2.tigertech.net Received: from [10.130.52.236] (unknown [37.171.120.244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailb2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 546701C0664; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:13:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Clausen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-BFAFBA03-3364-4CD6-BC78-7DE92F84E660 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 18:13:21 +0100 Message-Id: To: manet-ads@ietf.org, manet@ietf.org X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14D27) Archived-At: Subject: [manet] MANET agenda? X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 17:13:26 -0000 --Apple-Mail-BFAFBA03-3364-4CD6-BC78-7DE92F84E660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I see that the chairs have not posted any agenda for this IETF: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/manet/meetings/ =20 Given this, and the lack of activity of the list, it seems reasonable to inf= er that the meeting on Thursday is canceled? -- Thomas Heide Clausen =E2=80=A2 @thclausen =E2=80=A2 thomasclaus= en.org=20 www.arkko.com/tools/allstats/thomasheideclausen.html= --Apple-Mail-BFAFBA03-3364-4CD6-BC78-7DE92F84E660 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I see tha= t the chairs have not posted any agenda  for this IETF:

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Given this= , and the lack of activity of the list, it seems reasonable to infer that th= e meeting on Thursday is canceled?

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= --Apple-Mail-BFAFBA03-3364-4CD6-BC78-7DE92F84E660-- From nobody Sat Mar 25 10:34:47 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEED129416; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:34:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 632F2c73JOVH; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it0-x231.google.com (mail-it0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DE1D126C25; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it0-x231.google.com with SMTP id y18so17688721itc.1; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:34:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=9d6XyPk7MPXac0Mh7uZXXzMBhWbGUvvIAGvaOaMQmeM=; b=TD7S/nc0R+yOS9hGWbFIKr6xdnEYcqzhubI3ii0NztQcXOxJ704SFfqEXk5YOJxY3c 1LfZkGjGkrPnRU3evSKcevdP+t/Dd1pgOEMlXuon6EGPa6IWyocLEZL8RI9gtw9OTkWP zWmm+PaTkHRmSUYvyJP8007ffgVRvKKkKCeRsDf+aoc2Oy8M1SWgJVO6VEPiJV2MBEIa ipshi5NeTcAvVfSYwtkh+LStD0UPo9Aufs0zCgnjZcbv/6N5lo8LZuyex+B08thKqeFw PCXdSSQCM5PI/d+5CNxsipDWiwDJzwXsFJjrYDkGguCvf7Xkg5svzNJU817HOtdUZFjf GiwA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=9d6XyPk7MPXac0Mh7uZXXzMBhWbGUvvIAGvaOaMQmeM=; b=jKnY4+xPkfYZKFToAPsApEYzmXYELbqgJqP4IbucsjTLvDMbAm677kbOvJuV0XCXU/ yhM23wIbnc6qYkggiR3YuUBiItkKrXgAaLGRRVWs87AMhI2IPyb0OFoQNfoTMPDIq/Rk rWG8p68dMfke8mlxkI4Efzc+AyUgrTS5nzP0P/Xi1HkitbsitH4Z2LGJGn7furdquca9 zqUcLKmo1RtDl0/fj3CK/aCMsKdJsccOgP52B/L8XJxJh+cJ7F3LEzbaeKDnm70XpL1J 6Ak8p1LfGADa6a2YGJ5JmvYHJQcXz30IgDAb959D6L6Y894BZAMyiemipUWK+csf347v xWPA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H3DfO+nKgj7bw+iPYNmYL7KCHQmG5HSqekAzdvM+8LQLZFTI5XBALaE9EG5Z8BAnOmAZ167hQ/jyzJvvg== X-Received: by 10.107.32.199 with SMTP id g190mr15008826iog.117.1490463283610; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:34:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.158.4 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:34:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Stan Ratliff Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 13:34:43 -0400 Message-ID: To: Thomas Clausen Cc: manet-ads@ietf.org, MANET IETF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1140338a920ef5054b9186bd Archived-At: Subject: Re: [manet] MANET agenda? X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 17:34:46 -0000 --001a1140338a920ef5054b9186bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thomas, No, the meeting has not been canceled. We (the chairs) have just been remiss in getting the agenda posted. We'll get that done asap. Regards, Stan On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Thomas Clausen wrote: > Hi, > > I see that the chairs have not posted any agenda for this IETF: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/manet/meetings/ > > Given this, and the lack of activity of the list, it seems reasonable to > infer that the meeting on Thursday is canceled? > > -- > > *Thomas Heide Clausen =E2=80=A2 @thc= lausen > =E2=80=A2 thomasclausen.org > www.arkko.com/tools/allstats/thomasheidecl= ausen.html > * > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > --001a1140338a920ef5054b9186bd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thomas,

No, the meeting has not been ca= nceled. We (the chairs) have just been remiss in getting the agenda posted.= We'll get that done asap.

Regards,
= Stan

O= n Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Thomas Clausen <ietf@thomasclausen.or= g> wrote:
Hi,

I see that the chairs have not posted an= y agenda =C2=A0for this IETF:

=C2=A0
Given this, and= the lack of activity of the list, it seems reasonable to infer that the me= eting on Thursday is canceled?

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--001a1140338a920ef5054b9186bd-- From nobody Sat Mar 25 10:38:29 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C5E12704A for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:38:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.195 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.195 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.796, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WMVWCpDEtLno for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:38:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B8F91294E2 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30589 invoked by uid 0); 25 Mar 2017 17:38:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2017 17:38:21 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw3 with id 0HeH1v00D2SSUrH01HeL6x; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 11:38:21 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=WOnsABcR c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=6Iz7jQTuP9IA:10 a=WiVod9pSvdkA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=pJo66KLIAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=JqEG_dyiAAAA:8 a=08hktWlkAAAA:8 a=mvR4mrb2mz-vY1hSu4gA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=r-_w01w6WEUA:10 a=SNARt0pLdMoA:10 a=Mry5amjh60tv5fm8JD4A:9 a=XdmSOYiI91H6raVK:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=6kGIvZw6iX1k4Y-7sg4_:22 a=Gw1Ke2rq_ZCcWc4RJfA0:22 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 a=U04FSIGNRx3ScUM3zguK:22 a=87l-YwujT3hWJY6r_J5u:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Date:CC:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=UgGGT+qRQuCyl0IV7uMy6SrT1M3IEryOhyGaf2tIFoo=; b=I8DGwWQ6FPfY00R3m3yzZ0IT7Q LPKDOMR1EZCMEUX6xasWXg4+MhIF1f0jY/SdXoBiZqzi9WBzjD8wxU2dNOS9azGvBmzNWz+K4+2wc DufHRBRCAUDWbQIHgUWqDhv0U; Received: from [172.58.185.32] (port=24899 helo=[192.0.0.4]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1crpdp-0001Hd-6y; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 11:38:17 -0600 From: Lou Berger To: Stan Ratliff , Thomas Clausen CC: , MANET IETF Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 13:38:13 -0400 Message-ID: <15b068c0b88.27d3.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: AquaMail/1.8.1-193 (build: 100800100) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------15b068c0d3d139227d3ebe8f72" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 172.58.185.32 X-Exim-ID: 1crpdp-0001Hd-6y X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([192.0.0.4]) [172.58.185.32]:24899 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [manet] MANET agenda? X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 17:38:28 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------------15b068c0d3d139227d3ebe8f72 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Glad to hear that the slides I'm working on at the moment, and planned you have done last week, are still needed... Lou On March 25, 2017 1:35:22 PM Stan Ratliff wrote: > Thomas, > > No, the meeting has not been canceled. We (the chairs) have just been > remiss in getting the agenda posted. We'll get that done asap. > > Regards, > Stan > > On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Thomas Clausen > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I see that the chairs have not posted any agenda for this IETF: >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/manet/meetings/ >> >> Given this, and the lack of activity of the list, it seems reasonable to >> infer that the meeting on Thursday is canceled? >> >> -- >> >> *Thomas Heide Clausen • @thclausen >> • thomasclausen.org >> www.arkko.com/tools/allstats/thomasheideclausen.html >> * >> >> _______________________________________________ >> manet mailing list >> manet@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet >> >> > ------------15b068c0d3d139227d3ebe8f72 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Glad to hear that the slides I'm working on at the moment, and planned you have done last week, are still needed...

Lou

On March 25, 2017 1:35:22 PM Stan Ratliff <ratliffstan@gmail.com> wrote:

Thomas,

No, the meeting has not been canceled. We (the chairs) have just been remiss in getting the agenda posted. We'll get that done asap.

Regards,
Stan

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Thomas Clausen <ietf@thomasclausen.org> wrote:
Hi,

I see that the chairs have not posted any agenda  for this IETF:

 
Given this, and the lack of activity of the list, it seems reasonable to infer that the meeting on Thursday is canceled?
------------15b068c0d3d139227d3ebe8f72-- From nobody Mon Mar 27 13:15:26 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF7D12956E for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:15:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=herberg.name Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2MXMg4bdPpU0 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it0-x232.google.com (mail-it0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 495C4126E01 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it0-x232.google.com with SMTP id y18so68405100itc.1 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:15:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=herberg.name; s=dkim; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=6xGIrJSw+bNnX5XukCmiRp7Np43uluvyMkIRNZZMncE=; b=w30ke7nrfmJ5oYJwX4U/7FNN2rNPitsxwYCOmVZQm3eksBonZmFQXWfktCyQNSnCwH z3c7U4laULsq8DWDmaIen6efInJHhMM/2xOERDIi62e6I9o3BP/UINob27mIEgjJzkiX HUN0ju3yh+TIXOEGNnw0NSFnyZlnksE2xYlrQ= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=6xGIrJSw+bNnX5XukCmiRp7Np43uluvyMkIRNZZMncE=; b=rYhDlVbldknGphEEIrMsts73usW+aaembK0DxxQHkzAEwogpwRv9USUvcVHyeVapfU 8Su/ASn3ZoiuQGbVOcERp8fQlgmaTTbbISExEwQQ4MfyFsj1+OYw5twfizRoxQ+zHhS1 THQ0PsgFj5LzGLc6hsOGsJHdm5KFxYYiPaMlgmDY9/1SNa+ZzXj3+isi4oTJZnQftv6A qx2l0NBkyQTH/WKMmnGe3hg7/mG4pB9/xGtF/zvAMmY+6xrOjMd1lSTYDRRWK/asgj5m HnpwxXtfgQY+YA0o/Z72lsLhl2S/UiG7YDiMl7NmxTDKeQz3HJUtqmVTSc7UXdUc/HTX m1mw== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H3bNSjMbV8KURlnz/q8wJtiICuRyQcH+WEVImQzG2T6ccOPqlBTkIxn7mrM4hrnEg/gPTLM2bw8j9ZQCA== X-Received: by 10.36.194.67 with SMTP id i64mr12545430itg.68.1490645721327; Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:15:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.36.178.79 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:15:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Ulrich Herberg Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:15:20 -0700 Message-ID: To: manet@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: Subject: [manet] Agenda uploaded & Please send slides by tomorrow X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 20:15:24 -0000 I have uploaded the agenda for the MANET meeting: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/98/agenda/agenda-98-manet-00 Please send the slides to the chairs and to me by tomorrow evening. Best regards Ulrich From nobody Mon Mar 27 15:16:01 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietf.org Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E5F127871; Mon, 27 Mar 2017 15:15:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alexey Melnikov To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-manet-dlep@ietf.org, aretana@cisco.com, manet-chairs@ietf.org, bebemaster@gmail.com, manet@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.48.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149065295906.30557.1775913874329580926.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 15:15:59 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [manet] Alexey Melnikov's No Objection on draft-ietf-manet-dlep-28: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 22:15:59 -0000 Alexey Melnikov has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-manet-dlep-28: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-dlep/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This is generally a well written document and I enjoyed reading it. Section 14 (Security Considerations) now says: At the transport layer, when TLS is in use, each peer SHOULD check the validity of credentials presented by the other peer during TLS session establishment. Implementations following the "dedicated deployments" model attempting use of TLS MAY need to consider use of pre-shared keys for credentials I think you need an reference here, such as RFC 5487. , and provide specialized techniques for peer identity validation. Section 4 of 7925 has some discussion of credential types for IoT, some of which might be useful in DLEP. But I am not sure whether this is the great reference. (If you add it, you probably should make it Informative.) Implementations following the "networked deployment" model described in Implementation Scenarios SHOULD refer to [RFC7525] for additional details. From nobody Tue Mar 28 13:17:07 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietf.org Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B939C12896F; Tue, 28 Mar 2017 13:16:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: manet@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.48.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149073221971.1237.15783517086569415971@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 13:16:59 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [manet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-29.txt X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 20:17:00 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks of the IETF. Title : Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP) Authors : Stan Ratliff Shawn Jury Darryl Satterwhite Rick Taylor Bo Berry Filename : draft-ietf-manet-dlep-29.txt Pages : 77 Date : 2017-03-28 Abstract: When routing devices rely on modems to effect communications over wireless links, they need timely and accurate knowledge of the characteristics of the link (speed, state, etc.) in order to make routing decisions. In mobile or other environments where these characteristics change frequently, manual configurations or the inference of state through routing or transport protocols does not allow the router to make the best decisions. DLEP describes a new protocol for a bidirectional, event-driven communication channel between the router and the modem to facilitate communication of changing link characteristics. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-dlep/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-29 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-29 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-manet-dlep-29 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Mar 30 12:19:19 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietf.org Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64173129464; Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:19:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.49.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: The IESG , manet-chairs@ietf.org, manet@ietf.org, draft-ietf-manet-dlep@ietf.org, bebemaster@gmail.com, aretana@cisco.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <149090155740.15527.8099644413857147778.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:19:17 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [manet] Protocol Action: 'Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP)' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-manet-dlep-29.txt) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:19:17 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP)' (draft-ietf-manet-dlep-29.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Alia Atlas and Deborah Brungard. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-dlep/ Technical Summary When routing devices rely on modems to effect communications over wireless links, they need timely and accurate knowledge of the characteristics of the link (speed, state, etc.) in order to make routing decisions. In mobile or other environments where these characteristics change frequently, manual configurations or the inference of state through routing or transport protocols does not allow the router to make the best decisions. A bidirectional, event- driven communication channel between the router and the modem is necessary. Working Group Summary Development of the DLEP document has taken quite some time with a few major revisions along the way. DLEP has previously passed WGLC but was then sent back to the WG after an extensive RtgDir review. As a result the document was split into two documents the base specification (this document) and one for a credit windowing extension. There were also some minor technical changes were made, some major editorial changes were done. There is support within the working group on moving this document forward. Previous areas of contention within DLEP were worked out within the working group with no serious objections regarding the final decisions. Document Quality There are multiple existing implementations of the protocol, at least 4 independent ones are known. There is broad support within industry and more implementations are expected once standardized and well as demand on the customer side. One of the aspects to highlight is that the known implementations are all to be deployed in "secured perimeter" applications; in some cases the router and the modem are part of the same chassis. Personnel Document Shepherd is Justin Dean Area Director Alvaro Retana RFC Editor Note Bo Berry has unfortunely passed away. Because he was one of the original authors of this work, the authors/WG decided to keep his name on the document to honor his memory. The Responsible AD (Alvaro Retana) will be making any needed approvals in Bo's name.