From nobody Wed Aug 1 04:20:15 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADE1130E26 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 04:20:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FROM_MISSP_EH_MATCH=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6LLaF9MFLDVV for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 04:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.iit.cnr.it (mx4.iit.cnr.it [146.48.98.151]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C896F130F84 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 04:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.iit.cnr.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A107B807AF for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 13:20:04 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx4.iit.cnr.it Received: from smtp.iit.cnr.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx4.iit.cnr.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zUKPcfjkAhmL for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 13:20:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from turig.iit.cnr.it (turig.iit.cnr.it [146.48.98.70]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.iit.cnr.it (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 51BB2B807A1 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 13:20:01 +0200 (CEST) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.1 smtp.iit.cnr.it 51BB2B807A1 Authentication-Results: smtp.iit.cnr.it; dmarc=none header.from=iit.cnr.it Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 13:20:01 +0200 From: Elisabetta Biondi To: manet@ietf.org Message-ID: <5b619761.sde+dRbrAVRSZpHs%e.biondi@iit.cnr.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: [manet] PMC journal: Special Issue on Security and Privacy in Edge Computing-Assisted Internet of Things (IoT) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 11:20:14 -0000 Call for papers Pervasive and Mobile Computing (Impact Factor: 2.974) https://www.journals.elsevier.com/pervasive-and-mobile-computing Special Issue on Security and Privacy in Edge Computing-Assisted Intern= et of Things (IoT) Cloud has been popularly used for handling computation-intensive tasks = and providing intelligence to distributed IoT devices. However, as the = number of Internet-connected devices is dramatically growing, cloud sho= ws its limit on handling the daunting amount of computation loads on th= e one hand and the network bandwidth for moving huge volume of data fro= m end devices to cloud becomes the bottleneck on the other hand. Edge c= omputing is an emerging paradigm to optimize cloud-IoT ecosystems for t= ackling both network bottleneck and reducing data volume. The basic ide= a behind the edge computing lies in that the data processing such as an= alytics and knowledge generation are performed in the proximity of data= origins. One can see edge devices as small-scale clouds providing comp= aratively limited functionality and capability, as compared to the cent= ralized cloud. The use of edge devices in the proximity of data origins= thus improves network latency. Moreover, the amount of data that need = to be processed by each edge device will be substantially less than the= amount of data that need to be processed by single cloud. Despite numerous benefits from edge computing, this paradigm also bring= s new security and privacy challenges. While edge devices might be smar= tphones, smart gates, or even PC/laptop, together with the numerous kin= ds of end IoT devices such as smart watch (e.g., Apple iWatch), implant= able medical devices (e.g., fitbit), voice assistants (e.g., Google Hom= e), one can imagine various scenarios with sensitive data usage. For ex= ample, the smart watch collects sensitive physiological information. Me= anwhile, distributed edge devices need to cooperate with each other wit= hout the involvement of the data center. These scenarios obviously resu= lt in a high concern of security and privacy, especially on, for exampl= e, access control of edge devices, data abuse/misuse, DoS resistance on= edge devices. The aim of this special issue is to collect recent research on security= and privacy of edge computing, with particular emphasis on security an= d privacy issues on edge/end devices. More specifically, we invite rece= nt advanced research on privacy enhancing technologies and secure crypt= ographic techniques to address security and privacy challenges in the f= ield of edge computing. The following themes are of particular interest: Authentication, auditing and accountability in Edge Computing-Assisted = IoT Edge computing architectures and solution design patterns Edge comp= uting for IoT Communication and networking protocols for Edge Computing= -Assisted IoT Fine-grained access control mechanism in Edge Computing-A= ssisted IoT Privacy-preserving computation in Edge Computing-Assisted I= oT Trust and reputation issues in Edge Computing-Assisted IoT Security = architecture for Edge Computing-Assisted IoT Key management in Edge Com= puting-Assisted IoT IoT communication in Edge Computing-Assisted IoT In= centive models or techniques for data processing in Edge Computing-Assi= sted IoT Privacy-Enhancing Cryptographic Techniques in Edge Computing-A= ssisted IoT Security for Crowdsourcing in Edge Computing-Assisted IoT Guest Editors: Claudio A. Ardagna University of Milan, Italy claudio.ardagna@unimi.it Mauro Conti University of Padova, Italy conti@math.unipd.it Chia-Mu Yu National Chung Hsing University, Taiwan chiamuyu@nchu.edu.tw Timeline Submission Deadline: 30 Sep 2018 Acceptance Notification: 30 Jan 2019 Expected Publication: 30 Mar 2019 From nobody Wed Aug 1 14:38:50 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CF0130DF6 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2018 14:38:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=idirect.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YC5DOf5t80F9 for ; 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Thu, 02 Aug 2018 08:26:43 -0600 To: Rick Taylor , "manet@ietf.org" Cc: "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" References: <59d144dd-4ed9-cbf1-77e6-10f07f52f901@labn.net> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <6028a480-53a9-7399-94a0-fe0876811a6d@labn.net> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 10:26:42 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.106.211 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1flEYt-004I7I-8O X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-106-211.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.106.211]:33214 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 10 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: Re: [manet] planned next steps based on IETF 102 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 14:53:59 -0000 Hi Rick, On 8/2/2018 9:45 AM, Rick Taylor wrote: > Hi Lou, > > I fully support the split (I was one of the proponents). > > Also I'm glad to see Stan's name back on the Credit Windowing draft, as > we seem to have gone full-circle, but I think we are back to a sensible > place. Thanks - given's stan's message I'll push these versions of the documents today. > I will give better feedback once I've had a chance to review the split > more extensively. great. > I'm reserving judgement on the ether-credit extension, as I need to > read the split drafts more carefully. Yes, I want to use Ether-TOS > markings (explicitly VLAN-IDs) but not necessarily with credit > windowing. This is enabled by the ethernet definition in the traffic classification DI.  Let me know if you disagree after your review. > I wonder whether we are requesting too many extension > points from IANA, and whether fewer, e.g. FlowIDs, Credits, might be a > better level of granularity, and result in less drafts just requesting > an extensions point. The extension point is needed to enable negotiation on session establishment so both endpoints know what the other supports and what functions are being used on the session.  Let's points would either result in ambiguity or the need for secondary negation. Again, let me/us know if you disagree after your review. > I promise a more coherent response when I have some more time next > week. Thanks again! Lou > Cheers, > > Rick > > > On Tue, 2018-07-31 at 13:40 -0400, Lou Berger wrote: >> Please see https://github.com/louberger/dlep-extensions to see a >> preview >> of the split discussed below (per IETF102). >> >> Lou >> >> On 7/30/2018 6:02 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I wanted to confirm a few points discussed at the last >>> meeting >>> (hosted by CCAMP) before making any changes. Here's what I >>> understood >>> from the meeting: >>> >>> 1) WRT draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control-02 : >>> >>> The discussion concluded that the credit window control mechanisms >>> (messages and DIs) should be split from the traffic classification >>> mechanisms. Assuming there is agreement, the traffic >>> classification >>> will be moved into draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification. >>> Stan >>> will also be added as an author of >>> draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control as credit window control >>> is >>> derivative of his earlier work. >>> >>> Does anyone object to this change? >>> >>> Do the chairs agree with this change? (once you do, I'll submit >>> the >>> related updates -- this impacts the four drafts.) >>> >>> >>> 2) WRT draft-berger-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension-00 >>> >>> The few people in the room who were interested in the topic, were >>> supportive of adopting this draft. >>> >>> WG chairs, can we proceed with an adoption poll or is the more WG >>> organization decisions to be made? >>> >>> That's it, >>> Lou >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> manet mailing list >>> manet@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet >> _______________________________________________ >> manet mailing list >> manet@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From nobody Thu Aug 2 08:07:30 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58514130E27 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 08:07:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FfxiXfLYNDmC for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 08:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qt0-x236.google.com (mail-qt0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD15E130F1B for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 08:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qt0-x236.google.com with SMTP id e19-v6so2631714qtp.8 for ; Thu, 02 Aug 2018 08:07:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=yh0s9vETuXLdqgRDCP2f3e3YxQYP3MMWKvkcajU46uk=; b=VY5XZuA2CNPt75NkzPaIUg5LvSha/eqX+lLzwnnU9Ha/SsjpwUVrhVGkHcKdGT6h6Z zHiXAz1yb4i204VVLw/p/YNa+lulsomUH9rmoDkIASCzrfKftsNVHKkcRb8lyUp6vrJS 7ZrY55SuJLF2G7oDSSp5n/opSpOt0rsZzNqMqVrLSQWtLw4Y+zGbVhnMVovTA3zw6vEq +9LwJ8z09VOH2xF5gUHhBXdF+IfA/vZ6cEqZk19tf/Sm1aqmp4gjnbpLWy5NOsb86g2C 8y8x/CYtIFDIQEge1OdZK+YYZQAzdBJty+bErPNDCDMRxJl26jh7QPvo7tzpHuMdin6d 1S0A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=yh0s9vETuXLdqgRDCP2f3e3YxQYP3MMWKvkcajU46uk=; b=DAAeurVSY96P60LG8wZdPJh7spy7d1Xwfdeaznx1fsqPC0w3sttas0vQ+rjr42z71H 0mjI/q9UsCL8O3+BMkJRipZKk8jnd8Xei08kuvtYCeoNOnH4Ie3PBkSSH2OTO40AEzDN /TGmexXe/uoJkMmutY0cEsl03HfmUeoIiQAblgFGAlX4BD1ZyFy0NPRq4C2ZBvadOL3q Y8qxepB8itulPeRCOXuQRSEDh5HO5SPBIfUayLeChEucFEEg/ljYvbLt2m3t9aabreX+ cI/fIVoAWxQDRv8lTcDeR35WUwhTO6YaZw+JR6+lJpaz6vOn7yqsj3Ze8EJMnn78L+zw v1Tg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlEzgkclZxHis7B++oUf1wXGIc49+yo1IT5lRTmm/g58uk2fWZga 1Y0ZL3FilI+EO49KtgKK4OPpe8XXlQnxJLXcARzm7w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpeSlx67vNNIZyQtD9LnQyIc7KXLq+XLL/+BSQ2qoyUsgxj+igTsatPZQWJkF+HWwL+LE6Gql8BWMHvY8raLabM= X-Received: by 2002:aed:24b0:: with SMTP id t45-v6mr3043446qtc.86.1533222445013; Thu, 02 Aug 2018 08:07:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ac8:128b:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 08:07:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6028a480-53a9-7399-94a0-fe0876811a6d@labn.net> References: <59d144dd-4ed9-cbf1-77e6-10f07f52f901@labn.net> <6028a480-53a9-7399-94a0-fe0876811a6d@labn.net> From: Justin Dean Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:07:24 -0400 Message-ID: To: Lou Berger Cc: Rick Taylor , "manet@ietf.org" , "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000325db20572752b03" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [manet] planned next steps based on IETF 102 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 15:07:28 -0000 --000000000000325db20572752b03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I've no objection to this path forward. Justin On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > Hi Rick, > > On 8/2/2018 9:45 AM, Rick Taylor wrote: > >> Hi Lou, >> >> I fully support the split (I was one of the proponents). >> >> Also I'm glad to see Stan's name back on the Credit Windowing draft, as >> we seem to have gone full-circle, but I think we are back to a sensible >> place. >> > Thanks - given's stan's message I'll push these versions of the documents > today. > > I will give better feedback once I've had a chance to review the split >> more extensively. >> > great. > > I'm reserving judgement on the ether-credit extension, as I need to >> read the split drafts more carefully. Yes, I want to use Ether-TOS >> markings (explicitly VLAN-IDs) but not necessarily with credit >> windowing. >> > This is enabled by the ethernet definition in the traffic classification > DI. Let me know if you disagree after your review. > > I wonder whether we are requesting too many extension >> points from IANA, and whether fewer, e.g. FlowIDs, Credits, might be a >> better level of granularity, and result in less drafts just requesting >> an extensions point. >> > The extension point is needed to enable negotiation on session > establishment so both endpoints know what the other supports and what > functions are being used on the session. Let's points would either result > in ambiguity or the need for secondary negation. Again, let me/us know if > you disagree after your review. > > I promise a more coherent response when I have some more time next >> week. >> > Thanks again! > Lou > > Cheers, >> >> Rick >> >> >> On Tue, 2018-07-31 at 13:40 -0400, Lou Berger wrote: >> >>> Please see https://github.com/louberger/dlep-extensions to see a >>> preview >>> of the split discussed below (per IETF102). >>> >>> Lou >>> >>> On 7/30/2018 6:02 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I wanted to confirm a few points discussed at the last >>>> meeting >>>> (hosted by CCAMP) before making any changes. Here's what I >>>> understood >>>> from the meeting: >>>> >>>> 1) WRT draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control-02 : >>>> >>>> The discussion concluded that the credit window control mechanisms >>>> (messages and DIs) should be split from the traffic classification >>>> mechanisms. Assuming there is agreement, the traffic >>>> classification >>>> will be moved into draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification. >>>> Stan >>>> will also be added as an author of >>>> draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control as credit window control >>>> is >>>> derivative of his earlier work. >>>> >>>> Does anyone object to this change? >>>> >>>> Do the chairs agree with this change? (once you do, I'll submit >>>> the >>>> related updates -- this impacts the four drafts.) >>>> >>>> >>>> 2) WRT draft-berger-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension-00 >>>> >>>> The few people in the room who were interested in the topic, were >>>> supportive of adopting this draft. >>>> >>>> WG chairs, can we proceed with an adoption poll or is the more WG >>>> organization decisions to be made? >>>> >>>> That's it, >>>> Lou >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> manet mailing list >>>> manet@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> manet mailing list >>> manet@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > --000000000000325db20572752b03 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've no objection to this path forward.

=
Justin

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>= wrote:
Hi Rick,<= br>
On 8/2/2018 9:45 AM, Rick Taylor wrote:
Hi Lou,

I fully support the split (I was one of the proponents).

Also I'm glad to see Stan's name back on the Credit Windowing draft= , as
we seem to have gone full-circle, but I think we are back to a sensible
place.
 Thanks - given's stan's message I'll push these versions of the= documents today.

I will give better feedback once I've had a chance to review the split<= br> more extensively.
 great.

I'm reserving judgement on the ether-credit extension, as I need to
read the split drafts more carefully.=C2=A0 Yes, I want to use Ether-TOS markings (explicitly VLAN-IDs) but not necessarily with credit
windowing.
 This is enabled by the ethernet definition in the traffic classification DI= .=C2=A0 Let me know if you disagree after your review.

=C2=A0 I wonder whether we are requesting too many extension
points from IANA, and whether fewer, e.g. FlowIDs, Credits, might be a
better level of granularity, and result in less drafts just requesting
an extensions point.
 The extension point is needed to enable negotiation on session establishmen= t so both endpoints know what the other supports and what functions are bei= ng used on the session.=C2=A0 Let's points would either result in ambig= uity or the need for secondary negation. Again, let me/us know if you disag= ree after your review.

I promise a more coherent response when I have some more time next
week.
 Thanks again!
Lou

Cheers,

Rick


On Tue, 2018-07-31 at 13:40 -0400, Lou Berger wrote:
Please see https://github.com/louberger/dlep-extens= ions to see a
preview
of the split discussed below (per IETF102).

Lou

On 7/30/2018 6:02 PM, Lou Berger wrote:
Hi,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I wanted to confirm a few points discussed at th= e last
meeting
(hosted by CCAMP) before making any changes.=C2=A0 Here's what I
understood
from the meeting:

1) WRT draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control-02 :

The discussion concluded that the credit window control mechanisms
(messages and DIs) should be split from the traffic classification
mechanisms.=C2=A0 Assuming there is agreement, the traffic
classification
will be moved into draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification.
Stan
will also be added as an author of
draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control as credit window control
is
derivative of his earlier work.

Does anyone object to this change?

Do the chairs agree with this change?=C2=A0 (once you do, I'll submit the
related updates -- this impacts the four drafts.)


2) WRT draft-berger-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension-00

The few people in the room who were interested in the topic, were
supportive of adopting this draft.

WG chairs, can we proceed with an adoption poll or is the more WG
organization decisions to be made?

That's it,
Lou

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THIS EMAIL ORIGINATES FROM OUTSIDE VT IDIRECT.*** . > > > > Hi, > > > > I wanted to confirm a few points discussed at the last meeting > (hosted by > > CCAMP) before making any changes. Here's what I understood from the > > meeting: > > > > 1) WRT draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control-02 : > > > > The discussion concluded that the credit window control mechanisms > > (messages and DIs) should be split from the traffic classification > > mechanisms. Assuming there is agreement, the traffic classification > will be > > moved into draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification. Stan will > also be > > added as an author of draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control as > credit > > window control is derivative of his earlier work. > > > > Does anyone object to this change? > > > > Do the chairs agree with this change? (once you do, I'll submit the > related > > updates -- this impacts the four drafts.) > > > > > > 2) WRT draft-berger-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension-00 > > > > The few people in the room who were interested in the topic, were > > supportive of adopting this draft. > > > > WG chairs, can we proceed with an adoption poll or is the more WG > > organization decisions to be made? > > > > That's it, > > Lou > > > > _______________________________________________ > > manet mailing list > > manet@ietf.org > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- > > 3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_manet&d=DwIGaQ&c=LlUvidvlhStGUS > > xQl0giOA&r=QzgCKlK-eUsbLW5r8KZAL9L_yqNON1dbKtMa- > > Wbxna8&m=qKxbx0l1JcLLOhKJNYY0WvdCpXDEF2kxU9ofjzk6Uqo&s=6KLiSOy > > AvoycjlVYyaPBaLWrz4HOFi5NbsIvDSfs7QA&e= > > ============================================================ > ============================================================ > ==================== > This electronic message and any files transmitted with it contains > information from iDirect, which may be privileged, proprietary > and/or confidential. 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AB

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:38 PM, R= atliff, Stanley <sratliff@idirect.net> wrote:
Lou,
No objections here.

Regards,
Stan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: manet [mailto:manet-bo= unces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 6:03 PM
> To: MANET IETF <manet@ietf.org>
> Cc: rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org
> Subject: [manet] planned next steps based on IETF 102
>
> ***WARNING! THIS EMAIL ORIGINATES FROM OUTSIDE VT IDIRECT.*** .
>
> Hi,
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I wanted to confirm a few points discussed at= the last meeting (hosted by
> CCAMP) before making any changes.=C2=A0 Here's what I understood f= rom the
> meeting:
>
> 1) WRT draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control-02 :
>
> The discussion concluded that the credit window control mechanisms
> (messages and DIs) should be split from the traffic classification
> mechanisms.=C2=A0 Assuming there is agreement, the traffic classificat= ion will be
> moved into draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification.=C2=A0 St= an will also be
> added as an author of draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control a= s credit
> window control is derivative of his earlier work.
>
> Does anyone object to this change?
>
> Do the chairs agree with this change?=C2=A0 (once you do, I'll sub= mit the related
> updates -- this impacts the four drafts.)
>
>
> 2) WRT draft-berger-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension-00
>
> The few people in the room who were interested in the topic, were
> supportive of adopting this draft.
>
> WG chairs, can we proceed with an adoption poll or is the more WG
> organization decisions to be made?
>
> That's it,
> Lou
>
> _______________________________________________
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Hello WG,

We haven't really worked = or at least entertained multicast work although it is in the charter. Is it= still an active action item?=C2=A0

Another though= t, is there any consideration to adopt elastic multicast or ODMRP as experi= mental standard or leverage some of the efforts to contribute towards to th= e multicast work?=C2=A0

I look forward to hearing = from the chairs and the WG?

Regards,

--
James Nguyen
Email: james.huy.nguyen@gmail.com
--000000000000c19c890573026bb0-- From nobody Thu Aug 9 18:59:26 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2BA1294D0 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 18:59:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4skxKSrgXEfM for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 18:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qt0-x231.google.com (mail-qt0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38D53127148 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 18:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qt0-x231.google.com with SMTP id z8-v6so8774804qto.9 for ; Thu, 09 Aug 2018 18:59:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=FYait1Y7AUq+n7Ay7SqQXUnJCRWm/MbBpEkh3fSJ1VE=; b=Bl18ybcuzO176vCL1aZcxz7TMOKmGMkTF/YxnHeT98zOxNaWVUEGWUZEqU2+zdZ6wt Cc43o0nixmFzX63f7a2Kab4VTICrChsYnh1xnzAJLCncy2IaV7EsVC31tDPEIngUnoYc DdBmz37xpvTA/b8bVCkLLf+t+QuKaWlRp5LrU3yQurFUd+PP1GfglE518vRM1hyQPFiI r48d0L6GEDNY1YCb44f3HsrsgF1jhUMlHJU5SJkCssR5nCn1IaHUr+pimQpPudL4jzwg czhSIfiDEdeJ3k9rnGdcqxCg1YB96aisDWIoDy0c09kFQ0xfY9bIG77FhDPsTi9RyrIf z37w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=FYait1Y7AUq+n7Ay7SqQXUnJCRWm/MbBpEkh3fSJ1VE=; b=qMci0Rw0L4TPvoXjD/tf6A1mEjhxVI7MwjZ6Z7eZxQk/obpQz560UOF1RL2sJDKHLV oRn7xvmkDmHEqx66Kx/cVtloNhMhDT3ci2b/vei/YIT5QZIEt1qg8cC+VdEPIdsC+RZ+ fuNJA2BnT6wm9jfKDUftxdWdcBQ4+iOlhgPWPnfkyeVM4sBQVhgv0ZNpdO1pSELIQ4ss JknB+gI7Si212H08Z1pjiP9HrUgMnmlYTFtjFWtBNJQPNfNc/7wV8VdKb0n/R44JUcPp UVCX1DwZdu0BzLtIZ6rxit6Rat1LAjQEhkimLI1RGs9P/qH+FgvL7PJe3HhXE50xahBQ kc3A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlFmmlX0mf3cDcHeuC8neaRESPLN8hUx6jrTAFEBch/ca5lL+eVs v+KWt6WkAaHUewVglgL/vH2LY+e9cVNyLcYcu4c= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA+uWPxqgeLRpZP/mx3sgTetM9T27uvzPR+S+VEORBBHTvDYXagCO4rl1upuNqxyPh8bJsl0c1D3e3n5GShWUARlqPo= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:2908:: with SMTP id y8-v6mr4587343qty.45.1533866360354; Thu, 09 Aug 2018 18:59:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Justin Dean Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 21:59:12 -0400 Message-ID: To: James Nguyen Cc: manet@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008abfbd05730b17a3" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [manet] Multicast Work X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 01:59:25 -0000 --0000000000008abfbd05730b17a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" We have entertained multicast work in the form of a multicast fib. We haven't been very active in producing documents however. If persons were interested in reviving any multicast work (including those listed) it would be appropriate to explore group interest and expected effort. Justin Dean On Thu, Aug 9, 2018, 11:38 AM James Nguyen wrote: > Hello WG, > > We haven't really worked or at least entertained multicast work although > it is in the charter. Is it still an active action item? > > Another thought, is there any consideration to adopt elastic multicast or > ODMRP as experimental standard or leverage some of the efforts to > contribute towards to the multicast work? > > I look forward to hearing from the chairs and the WG? > > Regards, > > -- > James Nguyen > Email: james.huy.nguyen@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > --0000000000008abfbd05730b17a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We have entertained multicast work in the form of a multicast fib. We haven= 't been very active in producing documents however. If persons were int= erested in reviving any multicast work (including those listed) it would be= appropriate to explore group interest and expected effort.

<= div>Justin Dean

On Thu, = Aug 9, 2018, 11:38 AM James Nguyen <james.huy.nguyen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello WG,

We haven'= ;t really worked or at least entertained multicast work although it is in t= he charter. Is it still an active action item?=C2=A0

Another thought, is there any consideration to adopt elastic multicast o= r ODMRP as experimental standard or leverage some of the efforts to contrib= ute towards to the multicast work?=C2=A0

I look fo= rward to hearing from the chairs and the WG?

= Regards,

--
James Nguyen
Email: james.huy.nguyen@gmail.com
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--0000000000008abfbd05730b17a3-- From nobody Thu Aug 9 21:19:38 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA989130E9B for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 21:19:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T8pc6gIs4qGu for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 21:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qt0-x22b.google.com (mail-qt0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E460130E8B for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2018 21:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qt0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id z8-v6so9008523qto.9 for ; Thu, 09 Aug 2018 21:19:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xR96IVihBoK5dg2JvSwhFTnQaDS10jgZOj4JwqkG7mc=; b=TqzPI7gEfN4nNV2Mc9U4kIiYiXxK38axEX4bsKmSxuiGpVeUPftnQRC+qNmWevtITv PtI3n3J6Xe3vigwK7DH0tSAomt7OYcQHesbqmNX8r82W1Lpk4fKUsBtE+l5k6VQkbGph 0kMIQGT4SmopePCFy1GKdappbo0itwDejQ8Re0M46yHXxtafOtDcDbyFG1hS64KvSyHO KSY8BChob6HZ8Es3O4puzrmnsBxCJ5bZ+TYtppSVQoGhtyeWR9dBPzVbTSe6QENuEvqc uk4W/BUksDw9v98nVFADn+k5Afjd0QlJEAAndiodynlUIAGzlkHbuxNw4sV4T9TSxE8m xw8w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xR96IVihBoK5dg2JvSwhFTnQaDS10jgZOj4JwqkG7mc=; b=So5sZX5sCfs3T9WN0xwWpoo6sOGXmOe/6WzPUefa6gWb7MmCbigypguVzL7knK/4KB tuxiUcA62BjghdvkwWdHA7upeQB17zLJl8CYNre8jjMKeF4fAZyd5xTT+BX2swJLhvyq WnJdbt2df/Mz5Y0U+K8tUYPuIPFyPerSM0OwynURRiXMRCs+2qIuz9p875Jlyvc2vYHC +QN1QXR28Pv0JCIMPRAENPjznfzKXq0mVa8vcH/ePLN3ShJbMcalJJlJ84JZhmCWONRW Kbni7Gi3iHuB04EOtNNQNWvYU105PUAwrYyqh6Nh6U6B5oPOjE5mJWLvgU94CIyWuAsl wsSA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlElzO4CE3+CgOm3UGwWW/ylht4auQKmPhYLxV8Nwh5lh4SYlnNO pMgu9HJ3OXeto6JO7kgxLKVfR1SgzL7cRqimxVU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA+uWPy7SclFcQwC4wvbQM0jMRYquYI3GV7q24sZkuNOy9zypu5HYVmKf7fNkhIr6VBvidEw/Y2CXfE+irdcXIm3UI8= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:88ad:: with SMTP id 42-v6mr4351333qvn.61.1533874773087; Thu, 09 Aug 2018 21:19:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Henning Rogge Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 06:19:06 +0200 Message-ID: To: Justin Dean Cc: James Nguyen , MANET IETF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [manet] Multicast Work X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 04:19:36 -0000 Hi, we have also looked into this issue but couldn't get a good idea how to implement this... pure "dense mode" flooder are usually not a good idea for adhoc networks and each multicast app has its own idea how multicast should be done. Henning Rogge On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 3:59 AM Justin Dean wrote: > > We have entertained multicast work in the form of a multicast fib. We hav= en't been very active in producing documents however. If persons were inter= ested in reviving any multicast work (including those listed) it would be a= ppropriate to explore group interest and expected effort. > > Justin Dean > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2018, 11:38 AM James Nguyen w= rote: >> >> Hello WG, >> >> We haven't really worked or at least entertained multicast work although= it is in the charter. Is it still an active action item? >> >> Another thought, is there any consideration to adopt elastic multicast o= r ODMRP as experimental standard or leverage some of the efforts to contrib= ute towards to the multicast work? >> >> I look forward to hearing from the chairs and the WG? >> >> Regards, >> >> -- >> James Nguyen >> Email: james.huy.nguyen@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> manet mailing list >> manet@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From nobody Fri Aug 10 09:15:47 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietf.org Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1FB128B14; Fri, 10 Aug 2018 09:15:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: manet@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.83.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: manet@ietf.org Message-ID: <153391773857.25545.5784545555156144193@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 09:15:38 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [manet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification-00.txt X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 16:15:38 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks WG of the IETF. Title : DLEP Traffic Classification Data Item Authors : Bow-Nan Cheng David Wiggins Lou Berger Filename : draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification-00.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2018-08-02 Abstract: This document defines a new DLEP protocol Data Item that is used to support traffic classification. Traffic classification information is used to identify traffic flows based on frame/packet content such as destination address. The Data Item is defined in an extensible and reusable fashion. It's use will be mandated in other documents defining specific DLEP extensions. This document aloas introduces DLEP sub data items, and sub data items are defined to support DiffServ and Ethernet traffic classification. 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Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-hop-extension/ From nobody Mon Aug 13 07:37:08 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietf.org Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3474D130DDA; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 07:37:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stan Ratliff To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.83.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: iesg-secretary@ietf.org, manet@ietf.org, sratliff@idirect.net, Stan Ratliff , manet-chairs@ietf.org Message-ID: <153417102720.24982.4193725587332278099.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 07:37:07 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [manet] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-manet-dlep-pause-extension-04 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 14:37:07 -0000 Stan Ratliff has requested publication of draft-ietf-manet-dlep-pause-extension-04 as None on behalf of the MANET working group. 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The draft says in paragraph 3.1. that the default length of the link identifier data item is 4. However, in paragraph 3.2. it says that the default length of the link identifier data item is 5. The value of 5 made sense in previous drafts in presence of the Flags field. The Flags field length was 1 octet, which led to the overall length of 5 (4 octets of the link identifier plus 1 octet of the Flags field). In this draft there is no mention of the Flags field. Can you please clarify what is the correct default length of the link identifier data item and whether the Flags field should be present? Regards, Evgeniy Reznik. --00000000000071eda40573b3887e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,

I wanted to make sure that I cor= rectly understand the draft-ietf-manet-dlep-lid-extension-02 .

The draft says in paragraph 3.1. that the default length = of the link identifier data item is 4.
However, in paragraph 3.2.= it says that the default length of the link identifier data item is 5.
The value of 5 made sense in previous drafts in presence of the Flag= s field. The Flags field length was 1 octet, which led to the overall lengt= h of 5 (4 octets of the link identifier plus 1 octet of the Flags field).
In this draft there is no mention of the Flags field.
Can you please clarify what is the correct default length of t= he link identifier data item and whether the Flags field should be present?=

Regards,
Evgeniy Reznik.
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The Flags field length was 1 octet, which led to the overall > length of 5 (4 octets of the link identifier plus 1 octet of the > Flags field). > In this draft there is no mention of the Flags field. Hi Eugene, This looks like a typo.=C2=A0 The field length should be 4, not 5.=C2=A0 Th= ere once was a Flags field, but as it had no obvious use, so it was removed.=C2=A0 Obviously that part of the text wasn't updated to reflect th= e change - I'll update in my working copy and it will be in any further releases! Thanks, Rick ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:28:14 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: [manet] I-D Action: =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 draft-ietf-manet-dlep-lid-extension-03.txt Message-ID: <153477889434.23151.12320035839273935590@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks WG of the IETF. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : DLEP = Link Identifier Extension =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : Rick Taylo= r =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Stan Ratliff =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-ietf-manet-d= lep-lid-extension-03.txt =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : 7 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : 2018-08-= 20 Abstract: =C2=A0 There exists a class of modems that wish to support the Dynamic Link =C2=A0 Exchange Protocol (DLEP) [RFC8175] but do not present a single Layer =C2=A0 2 network domain as required by DLEP.=C2=A0 Such devices may be: =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 Modems that maintain a varying link to some upstream backbon= e =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 network infrastructure, where the ability to announce = link state =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 and DLEP metrics is desired, but the concept of a DLEP= destination =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 router for the backbone does not apply.=C2=A0 Examples= of such devices =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 can include LTE modems, IEEE 802.11 stations not in ad= -hoc mode, =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 and some satellite terminals. =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 Modems that provide Layer 3 wide area network connectivity b= etween =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 devices, where individual DLEP destinations do exist, = but are not =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 directly reachable by MAC address. =C2=A0 This document introduces an optional extension to the core DLEP =C2=A0 specification, allowing DLEP to be used between routers and modems =C2=A0 that operate in this way. =C2=A0 Note: =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 This document is intended as an extension to the core DLEP =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 specification, and readers are expected to be fully co= nversant =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 with the operation of core DLEP. 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Date: Mon, 20 = Aug 2018 15:15:20 +0000
From: Rick Taylor <rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com>
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On Sat, 2018-08-18 at 13:56 +0300, Eugene Reznik wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I wanted to make sure that I correctly understand the draft-ietf-=
> manet-dlep-lid-extension-02 .
>
> The draft says in paragra= ph 3.1. that the default length of the link
> = identifier data item is 4.
> However, in parag= raph 3.2. it says that the default length of the
= > link identifier data item is 5.
> The val= ue of 5 made sense in previous drafts in presence of the Flags
> field. The Flags field length was 1 octet, which led to = the overall
> length of 5 (4 octets of the lin= k identifier plus 1 octet of the
> Flags field= ).
> In this draft there is no mention of the = Flags field.

Hi Eugene= ,

This looks like a ty= po.  The field length should be 4, not 5.  There
once was a Flags field, but as it had no obvious use, so it was
removed.  Obviously that part of the text was= n't updated to reflect the
change - I'll update i= n my working copy and it will be in any further
r= eleases!

Thanks,

Rick

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Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:28:14 -0700
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    draft-ietf-manet-dlep-lid-extension-03.txt
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Content-Type: text/plain;= charset=3D"utf-8"

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line = Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work= item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks WG of the IETF.

        Title   = ;       : DLEP Link Identifier Extension
        Authors        : = Rick Taylor
          &n= bsp;               Stan Ratliff
    Filename        : = draft-ietf-manet-dlep-lid-extension-03.txt
 =    Pages          : 7
    Date            := 2018-08-20

Abstract:<= br>
  There exists a class of modems that wish = to support the Dynamic Link
  Exchange Prot= ocol (DLEP) [RFC8175] but do not present a single Layer
  2 network domain as required by DLEP.  Such devices m= ay be:

  o = Modems that maintain a varying link to some upstream backbone
      network infrastructure, where the abilit= y to announce link state
      and= DLEP metrics is desired, but the concept of a DLEP destination
      router for the backbone does not apply.=   Examples of such devices
    &nb= sp; can include LTE modems, IEEE 802.11 stations not in ad-hoc mode,
      and some satellite terminals.
<= /div>

  o  Modems tha= t provide Layer 3 wide area network connectivity between
      devices, where individual DLEP destinations d= o exist, but are not
      directl= y reachable by MAC address.

  This document introduces an optional extension to the core DL= EP
  specification, allowing DLEP to be use= d between routers and modems
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  = Note:

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------=_Part_1130761_18410058.1534932011864-- From nobody Wed Aug 22 12:36:30 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietf.org Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F44130E53; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 12:36:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Justin Dean To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.83.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: bebemaster@gmail.com, manet@ietf.org, Justin Dean , iesg-secretary@ietf.org, manet-chairs@ietf.org Message-ID: <153496658865.21020.16617164459201005785.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 12:36:28 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [manet] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-manet-dlep-lid-extension-03 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:36:29 -0000 Justin Dean has requested publication of draft-ietf-manet-dlep-lid-extension-03 as Proposed Standard on behalf of the MANET working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-lid-extension/ From nobody Wed Aug 22 12:48:32 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietf.org Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED231292AD; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 12:48:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: bebemaster@gmail.com, aretana.ietf@gmail.com, manet@ietf.org, manet-chairs@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.83.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <153496731002.20996.3407319637285317694.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 12:48:30 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [manet] manet - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 103 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:48:30 -0000 A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Justin Dean, a Chair of the manet working group. --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Area Name: Routing Area Session Requester: Justin Dean Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 1 Hour Number of Attendees: 20 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: roll Second Priority: 6tisch Third Priority: homenet People who must be present: Stan Ratliff Justin Dean Alvaro Retana Resources Requested: Special Requests: Back to back/shared timeslot and space with DTN --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Thu Aug 23 09:29:43 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietf.org Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5A5130E2D; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:29:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: manet@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.83.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: manet@ietf.org Message-ID: <153504177720.12066.17040987639132109018@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:29:37 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [manet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-lid-extension-04.txt X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:29:37 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks WG of the IETF. Title : DLEP Link Identifier Extension Authors : Rick Taylor Stan Ratliff Filename : draft-ietf-manet-dlep-lid-extension-04.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2018-08-23 Abstract: There exists a class of modems that would benefit from supporting the Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP) [RFC8175] but do not present a single Layer 2 network domain as required by DLEP. Such devices may be: o Modems that maintain a varying link to some upstream backbone network infrastructure, where the ability to announce link state and DLEP metrics is desired, but the concept of a DLEP destination router for the backbone does not apply. Examples of such devices can include LTE modems, IEEE 802.11 stations not in ad-hoc mode, and some satellite terminals. o Modems that provide Layer 3 wide area network connectivity between devices, where remote DLEP destinations do exist, but are not directly reachable by MAC address, such as modems that contain embedded routing functionality. This document introduces an optional extension to the core DLEP specification, allowing DLEP to be used between routers and modems that operate in this way. Note: o This document is intended as an extension to the core DLEP specification, and readers are expected to be fully conversant with the operation of core DLEP. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-lid-extension/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-lid-extension-04 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-lid-extension-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-manet-dlep-lid-extension-04 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/