From nobody Mon Jul 1 11:11:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietf.org Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AC5120929; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 11:11:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Michael Scharf via Datatracker To: Cc: manet@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, draft-ietf-manet-dlep-latency-extension.all@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.98.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Michael Scharf Message-ID: <156200468020.5738.13437255674237082233@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 11:11:20 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [manet] Tsvart last call review of draft-ietf-manet-dlep-latency-extension-04 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 18:11:20 -0000 Reviewer: Michael Scharf Review result: Ready This document has been reviewed as part of the transport area review team's ongoing effort to review key IETF documents. These comments were written primarily for the transport area directors, but are copied to the document's authors and WG to allow them to address any issues raised and also to the IETF discussion list for information. When done at the time of IETF Last Call, the authors should consider this review as part of the last-call comments they receive. Please always CC tsv-art@ietf.org if you reply to or forward this review. This is a short and straightforward document without any apparent impact on transport protocols. As a purely editorial nit, I'd suggest expanding the acronym DLEP in the abstract. From nobody Tue Jul 2 20:27:29 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietf.org Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E94F12014B; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 20:27:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Carlos Pignataro via Datatracker To: Cc: manet@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, draft-ietf-manet-dlep-latency-extension.all@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.98.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Carlos Pignataro Message-ID: <156212444727.24005.11059998460216924141@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 20:27:27 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [manet] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-manet-dlep-latency-extension-04 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 03:27:27 -0000 Reviewer: Carlos Pignataro Review result: Has Nits TL;DR: Reviewer: Carlos Pignataro Review Result: Ready with Nits Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see ​http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-latency-extension-04.txt Reviewer: Carlos Pignataro Intended Status: Standards Track Summary: This document is basically ready for publication, but has nits that should be considered prior to publication. Comments: This is a well written and straightforward document describing an extension to RFC 8175's Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP). The Data Item and Extension Type for Latency Range closely follow the specification of the corresponding Latency information elements from RFC 8175. Minors/Nits for consideration: * It would be useful to expand the DLEP acronym in the Title and Abstract. * Regarding "The use of the Latency Range Extension SHOULD be configurable", an operational comment: What is the default (enabled or disabled)? In what cases does this not need be configurable (i.e., is it a MUST)? * Error checking: what happens if the Latency data item defined in RFC 8175 falls outside the range of the Latency Range data item herein defined? (i.e., I understand that should not happen but I may be wrong). And what if Latency Range is included without Latency being included? * Section 5: s/requests the assignment of 2 values/requests the assignment of two values/ Thanks! Carlos Pignataro. From nobody Sat Jul 13 08:09:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietf.org Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54791200E0; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 08:08:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: =?utf-8?q?=C3=89ric_Vyncke_via_Datatracker?= To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-latency-extension@ietf.org, Justin Dean , aretana.ietf@gmail.com, manet-chairs@ietf.org, bebemaster@gmail.com, manet@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.98.3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: =?utf-8?q?=C3=89ric_Vyncke?= Message-ID: <156303053773.32654.13106491641379759058.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 08:08:57 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [manet] =?utf-8?q?=C3=89ric_Vyncke=27s_No_Objection_on_draft-iet?= =?utf-8?q?f-manet-dlep-latency-extension-04=3A_=28with_COMMENT=29?= X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 15:08:58 -0000 Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-manet-dlep-latency-extension-04: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-latency-extension/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for this short and concise document. I just wonder whether the packet size is taken into account for the minimum and maximum latency if compression/serialization is taken into account the measurement. From nobody Sun Jul 14 08:29:52 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AAC112004D for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 23:30:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ORADVo0mVPoq for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 23:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC18712006E for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 23:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id C8207B80AFA; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 23:30:19 -0700 (PDT) To: T.Clausen@computer.org, christopher.dearlove@gmail.com, jdean@itd.nrl.navy.mil, db3546@att.com, aretana.ietf@gmail.com, martin.vigoureux@nokia.com, bebemaster@gmail.com, sratliff@idirect.net X-PHP-Originating-Script: 30:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Cc: nmalykh@ieee.org, manet@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20190714063019.C8207B80AFA@rfc-editor.org> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 23:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 08:29:51 -0700 Subject: [manet] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC6130 (5780) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 06:30:24 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC6130, "Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) Neighborhood Discovery Protocol (NHDP)". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5780 -------------------------------------- Type: Editorial Reported by: Nikolai Malykh Section: F.3 Original Text ------------- The content of the Interface Information Base is in this case identical to than in Example 1, except that the 2-Hop Set contains an extra 2-Hop Tuple with N2_neighbor_iface_addr_list being {2} and N2_2hop_addr being {4}. These two 2-Hop Tuples are illustrated by the two lines from {2} to {3} and (2) to {4}, respectively. Corrected Text -------------- The content of the Interface Information Base is in this case identical to than in Example 1, except that the 2-Hop Set contains an extra 2-Hop Tuple with N2_neighbor_iface_addr_list being {2} and N2_2hop_addr being {4}. These two 2-Hop Tuples are illustrated by the two lines from {2} to {3} and {2} to {4}, respectively. Notes ----- Parentheses are mistakenly typed Instructions: ------------- This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC6130 (draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-15) -------------------------------------- Title : Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) Neighborhood Discovery Protocol (NHDP) Publication Date : April 2011 Author(s) : T. Clausen, C. Dearlove, J. 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[82.8.59.11]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 4sm30041753wro.78.2019.07.14.02.52.26 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Jul 2019 02:52:26 -0700 (PDT) References: <20190714063019.C8207B80AFA@rfc-editor.org> In-Reply-To: <20190714063019.C8207B80AFA@rfc-editor.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <5C9E18F0-12B5-4494-9255-8164C5B6318C@gmail.com> Cc: T.Clausen@computer.org, jdean@itd.nrl.navy.mil, db3546@att.com, aretana.ietf@gmail.com, martin.vigoureux@nokia.com, bebemaster@gmail.com, sratliff@idirect.net, nmalykh@ieee.org, manet@ietf.org X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14G60) From: Christopher Dearlove Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 10:52:25 +0100 To: RFC Errata System Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 08:29:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [manet] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC6130 (5780) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 09:52:31 -0000 In my opinion, as an author, this erratum is correct. > On 14 Jul 2019, at 07:30, RFC Errata System wr= ote: >=20 > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC6130, > "Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) Neighborhood Discovery Protocol (NHDP)". >=20 > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5780 >=20 > -------------------------------------- > Type: Editorial > Reported by: Nikolai Malykh >=20 > Section: F.3 >=20 > Original Text > ------------- > The content of the Interface Information Base is in this case > identical to than in Example 1, except that the 2-Hop Set contains an > extra 2-Hop Tuple with N2_neighbor_iface_addr_list being {2} and > N2_2hop_addr being {4}. These two 2-Hop Tuples are illustrated by > the two lines from {2} to {3} and (2) to {4}, respectively. >=20 >=20 > Corrected Text > -------------- > The content of the Interface Information Base is in this case > identical to than in Example 1, except that the 2-Hop Set contains an > extra 2-Hop Tuple with N2_neighbor_iface_addr_list being {2} and > N2_2hop_addr being {4}. These two 2-Hop Tuples are illustrated by > the two lines from {2} to {3} and {2} to {4}, respectively. >=20 >=20 > Notes > ----- > Parentheses are mistakenly typed >=20 > Instructions: > ------------- > This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party =20 > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------- > RFC6130 (draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-15) > -------------------------------------- > Title : Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) Neighborhood Discovery= Protocol (NHDP) > Publication Date : April 2011 > Author(s) : T. Clausen, C. Dearlove, J. Dean > Category : PROPOSED STANDARD > Source : Mobile Ad-hoc Networks > Area : Routing > Stream : IETF > Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Mon Jul 15 05:23:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietf.org Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5DB120131; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 05:23:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Leif Johansson via Datatracker To: Cc: manet@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, draft-ietf-manet-dlep-latency-extension.all@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.98.3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Leif Johansson Message-ID: <156319341919.27264.2473365221253891316@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 05:23:39 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [manet] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-manet-dlep-latency-extension-04 X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 12:23:39 -0000 Reviewer: Leif Johansson Review result: Ready I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area directors. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like any other last call comments. The document is ready, I have no issues. From nobody Wed Jul 17 12:37:12 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20034120090; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 12:37:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tc4h0koL8cdo; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 12:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3DA3120071; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 12:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 49D26B80B2F; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 12:36:55 -0700 (PDT) To: nmalykh@ieee.org, T.Clausen@computer.org, christopher.dearlove@gmail.com, jdean@itd.nrl.navy.mil X-PHP-Originating-Script: 30:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Cc: aretana.ietf@gmail.com, iesg@ietf.org, manet@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20190717193655.49D26B80B2F@rfc-editor.org> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 12:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Subject: [manet] [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC6130 (5780) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 19:37:01 -0000 The following errata report has been held for document update for RFC6130, "Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) Neighborhood Discovery Protocol (NHDP)". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5780 -------------------------------------- Status: Held for Document Update Type: Editorial Reported by: Nikolai Malykh Date Reported: 2019-07-14 Held by: Alvaro Retana (IESG) Section: F.3 Original Text ------------- The content of the Interface Information Base is in this case identical to than in Example 1, except that the 2-Hop Set contains an extra 2-Hop Tuple with N2_neighbor_iface_addr_list being {2} and N2_2hop_addr being {4}. These two 2-Hop Tuples are illustrated by the two lines from {2} to {3} and (2) to {4}, respectively. Corrected Text -------------- The content of the Interface Information Base is in this case identical to than in Example 1, except that the 2-Hop Set contains an extra 2-Hop Tuple with N2_neighbor_iface_addr_list being {2} and N2_2hop_addr being {4}. These two 2-Hop Tuples are illustrated by the two lines from {2} to {3} and {2} to {4}, respectively. Notes ----- Parentheses are mistakenly typed. s/(2)/{2} -------------------------------------- RFC6130 (draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-15) -------------------------------------- Title : Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) Neighborhood Discovery Protocol (NHDP) Publication Date : April 2011 Author(s) : T. Clausen, C. Dearlove, J. Dean Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Thu Jul 18 03:56:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51BC1201A0; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 03:56:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id usCak0i0AFWw; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 03:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C2551201B3; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 03:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 4B00CB817DE; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 03:56:24 -0700 (PDT) To: steven.matty@airbus.com, T.Clausen@computer.org, christopher.dearlove@gmail.com, jdean@itd.nrl.navy.mil X-PHP-Originating-Script: 30:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Cc: aretana.ietf@gmail.com, iesg@ietf.org, manet@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20190718105624.4B00CB817DE@rfc-editor.org> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 03:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Subject: [manet] [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC6130 (5785) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 10:56:31 -0000 The following errata report has been held for document update for RFC6130, "Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) Neighborhood Discovery Protocol (NHDP)". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5785 -------------------------------------- Status: Held for Document Update Type: Editorial Reported by: Steve Matty Date Reported: 2019-07-18 Held by: Alvaro Retana (IESG) Section: F.3 Original Text ------------- The content of the Interface Information Base is in this case identical to than in Example 1, except that the 2-Hop Set contains an extra 2-Hop Tuple with N2_neighbor_iface_addr_list being {2} and N2_2hop_addr being {4}. These two 2-Hop Tuples are illustrated by the two lines from {2} to {3} and (2) to {4}, respectively. Corrected Text -------------- The content of the Interface Information Base is in this case identical to that in Example 1, except that the 2-Hop Set contains an extra 2-Hop Tuple with N2_neighbor_iface_addr_list being {2} and N2_2hop_addr being {4}. These two 2-Hop Tuples are illustrated by the two lines from {2} to {3} and (2) to {4}, respectively. Notes ----- Typo in first sentence. "than" should read "that" -------------------------------------- RFC6130 (draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-15) -------------------------------------- Title : Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) Neighborhood Discovery Protocol (NHDP) Publication Date : April 2011 Author(s) : T. Clausen, C. Dearlove, J. Dean Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Thu Jul 18 08:45:59 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B9512006D for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 01:42:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t94gUhw9v7dy for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 01:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 437AB120129 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 01:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 4819FB81236; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 01:42:33 -0700 (PDT) To: T.Clausen@computer.org, christopher.dearlove@gmail.com, jdean@itd.nrl.navy.mil, db3546@att.com, aretana.ietf@gmail.com, martin.vigoureux@nokia.com, bebemaster@gmail.com, sratliff@idirect.net X-PHP-Originating-Script: 30:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Cc: steven.matty@airbus.com, manet@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20190718084233.4819FB81236@rfc-editor.org> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 01:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 08:45:58 -0700 Subject: [manet] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC6130 (5785) X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 08:42:40 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC6130, "Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) Neighborhood Discovery Protocol (NHDP)". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5785 -------------------------------------- Type: Editorial Reported by: Steve Matty Section: F.3 Original Text ------------- The content of the Interface Information Base is in this case identical to than in Example 1, except that the 2-Hop Set contains an extra 2-Hop Tuple with N2_neighbor_iface_addr_list being {2} and N2_2hop_addr being {4}. These two 2-Hop Tuples are illustrated by the two lines from {2} to {3} and (2) to {4}, respectively. Corrected Text -------------- The content of the Interface Information Base is in this case identical to that in Example 1, except that the 2-Hop Set contains an extra 2-Hop Tuple with N2_neighbor_iface_addr_list being {2} and N2_2hop_addr being {4}. These two 2-Hop Tuples are illustrated by the two lines from {2} to {3} and (2) to {4}, respectively. Notes ----- Typo in first sentence. "than" should read "that" Instructions: ------------- This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC6130 (draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-15) -------------------------------------- Title : Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) Neighborhood Discovery Protocol (NHDP) Publication Date : April 2011 Author(s) : T. Clausen, C. Dearlove, J. Dean Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Mon Jul 22 13:25:29 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D3E1200CE for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 13:25:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id msBjNvUuE8au for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 13:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.20.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8254D12008C for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 13:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmgw11.unifiedlayer.com (unknown [10.9.0.11]) by gproxy9.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA5E1E0A11 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 14:25:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id pes5hXLCkdgLtpes5htphh; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 14:25:22 -0600 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 X-Authority-Analysis: $(_cmae_reason DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:Cc:Subject:From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=EOCThFk78upLymh42aReI2kEIQBq9gckbSWNfWbloN4=; b=tmnYtLHC6Y/7IXPHfVyQFVh+lr Mk8rueUnc6NpzGyTKsX159eBG7b7gLGH8+llGMCABl6dU6pgkwwYwFoMAoNTzOfE9INk1RduPRwIW 77p+XVyEBHG4DwFWBjsfn9ExM; Received: from [127.0.0.1] (port=31801 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hpes5-001uOX-OO; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 14:25:21 -0600 To: MANET IETF , Stan Ratliff From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <502f02f6-fbb1-f56c-9369-5b6409944350@labn.net> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 16:25:21 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Source-L: Yes X-Exim-ID: 1hpes5-001uOX-OO X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([IPv6:::1]) [127.0.0.1]:31801 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 10 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: [manet] Topic for discussion? X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 20:25:28 -0000 Hi, If there is time on the agenda I'd like to raise/have a discussion on dlep support for IP multicast. These questions come out of looking at the opensource dlep implementation posted at https://github.com/mit-ll/LL-DLEP and RFC8175. The questions are: (a) How does a multicast receiver identify itself (and remove itself) (b) how does a (potential) multicast sender know about a multicast group and it's related parameters (c) how does a (potential) multicast sender know what endpoints are reachable via a multicast group I raised this same question with a number of people including the RFC8175 authors and we generally agreed that there are answers for (a) and (b) that can be traced easily/obviously back to RFC8175, and a fairly straight forward answer to (c) that we don't think falls within the intent of the RFC. (At least the authors of RFC8175 gave the same answers that we separately arrived at.) I think it would be great if we could review the questions and ensure that we all agree on the answers. I can through some slides together on this, or we Stan/Rick could do the same. - Or we can start with Stan's (if he prefers) email on the topic. Thoughts? Thanks, Lou From nobody Mon Jul 22 13:37:08 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676EC120287 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 13:37:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H9p9uHrHluU5 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 13:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.tropicalstormsoftware.com (mail.tropicalstormsoftware.com [188.94.42.120]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0DBA1202CE for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 13:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tss-server1.home.tropicalstormsoftware.com ([fe80::48e4:acbb:6065:8168]) by tss-server1.home.tropicalstormsoftware.com ([fe80::48e4:acbb:6065:8168%16]) with mapi id 14.03.0468.000; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 21:36:48 +0100 From: Rick Taylor To: "manet@ietf.org" , "ratliffstan@gmail.com" , "lberger@labn.net" Thread-Topic: Topic for discussion? Thread-Index: AQHVQMy0piZj4jKf/0SzX+cJHbC306bXB/wA Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 20:36:46 +0000 Message-ID: References: <502f02f6-fbb1-f56c-9369-5b6409944350@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <502f02f6-fbb1-f56c-9369-5b6409944350@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.10.1.5] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-ID: <3CBD531083D6B547AEEF33DE38D492EB@home.tropicalstormsoftware.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [manet] Topic for discussion? 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Thread-Index: AQHVQMuhCnIF0J6No0+5thrTd/hxsabXZm8A Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 01:18:20 +0000 Message-ID: <705d2209c9234e2596d65eeec7f33092@idirect.net> References: <502f02f6-fbb1-f56c-9369-5b6409944350@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <502f02f6-fbb1-f56c-9369-5b6409944350@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.250.251.20] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MC-Unique: 7XC1wP3bNu2kk-DaQiYpfA-1 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MCBoundary=_11907222118230911" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [manet] Topic for discussion? X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 01:18:27 -0000 --MCBoundary=_11907222118230911 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lou,=20 I agree with Rick - this is a good discussion for us to have. I think we ca= n start from my email, but having said that, it you can put together a slid= e or two, that would be great. If the great karma of airline travel allows,= I'll be in Montreal before the MANET meeting. But, since I was due in Mont= real last Sunday night, I guess one never knows... ;-) Either way, a good discussion to have.=20 Regards, Stan > -----Original Message----- > From: manet [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:25 PM > To: MANET IETF ; Stan Ratliff > Subject: [manet] Topic for discussion? >=20 > Hi, > If there is time on the agenda I'd like to raise/have a discussion on dle= p > support for IP multicast. These questions come out of looking at the > opensource dlep implementation posted at https://github.com/mit-ll/LL- > DLEP us.mimecast.com/s/Hm65CQWqVVTowkETMP1sl?domain=3Dgithub.com> and > RFC8175. The questions are: >=20 > (a) How does a multicast receiver identify itself (and remove itself) >=20 > (b) how does a (potential) multicast sender know about a multicast group > and it's related parameters >=20 > (c) how does a (potential) multicast sender know what endpoints are > reachable via a multicast group >=20 > I raised this same question with a number of people including the > RFC8175 authors and we generally agreed that there are answers for (a) an= d > (b) that can be traced easily/obviously back to RFC8175, and a fairly str= aight > forward answer to (c) that we don't think falls within the intent of the = RFC. > (At least the authors of RFC8175 gave the same answers that we separately > arrived at.) >=20 > I think it would be great if we could review the questions and ensure tha= t we > all agree on the answers. I can through some slides together on this, or = we > Stan/Rick could do the same. - Or we can start with Stan's (if he prefers= ) > email on the topic. >=20 > Thoughts? >=20 > Thanks, > Lou >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet us.mimecast.com/s/Wg8OCR6rWWi53vksOjum0?domain=3Dietf.org> This electronic message and any files transmitted with it contains informat= ion from iDirect, which may be privileged, proprietary and/or confidential.= It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they= are addressed.=20 If you are not the original recipient or the person responsible for deliver= ing the email to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received = this email in error, and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing,= or copying of=20 this email is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, ple= ase delete it and immediately notify the sender. --MCBoundary=_11907222118230911 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Lou,

I agree with Rick - this is a good discussion for us to have. I think we ca= n start from my email, but having said that, it you can put together a slid= e or two, that would be great. If the great karma of airline travel allows,= I'll be in Montreal before the MANET meeting. But, since I was due in Mont= real last Sunday night, I guess one never knows... ;-)

Either way, a good discussion to have.

Regards,
Stan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: manet [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:25 PM
> To: MANET IETF <manet@ietf.org>; Stan Ratliff <ratliffstan@gm= ail.com>
> Subject: [manet] Topic for discussion?
>
> Hi,
> If there is time on the agenda I'd like to raise/have a discussion on = dlep
> support for IP multicast. These questions come out of looking at the > opensource dlep implementation posted at https://github.com/mit-ll/LL-
> DLEP <https://protect-
> us.mimecast.com/s/Hm65CQWqVVTowkETMP1sl?domain=3Dgithub.com> and > RFC8175. The questions are:
>
> (a) How does a multicast receiver identify itself (and remove itself)<= BR> >
> (b) how does a (potential) multicast sender know about a multicast gro= up
> and it's related parameters
>
> (c) how does a (potential) multicast sender know what endpoints are > reachable via a multicast group
>
> I raised this same question with a number of people including the
> RFC8175 authors and we generally agreed that there are answers for (a)= and
> (b) that can be traced easily/obviously back to RFC8175, and a fairly = straight
> forward answer to (c) that we don't think falls within the intent of t= he RFC.
> (At least the authors of RFC8175 gave the same answers that we separat= ely
> arrived at.)
>
> I think it would be great if we could review the questions and ensure = that we
> all agree on the answers. I can through some slides together on this, = or we
> Stan/Rick could do the same. - Or we can start with Stan's (if he pref= ers)
> email on the topic.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Lou
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> manet mailing list
> manet@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet <https://protect- > us.mimecast.com/s/Wg8OCR6rWWi53vksOjum0?domain=3Dietf.org>


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If the great karma of > airline travel allows, I'll be in Montreal before the MANET meeting. > But, since I was due in Montreal last Sunday night, I guess one never > knows... ;-) > > Either way, a good discussion to have. > > Regards, > Stan > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: manet [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:25 PM > > To: MANET IETF ; Stan Ratliff > > Subject: [manet] Topic for discussion? > > > > Hi, > > If there is time on the agenda I'd like to raise/have a discussion > on dlep > > support for IP multicast. These questions come out of looking at the > > opensource dlep implementation posted at https://github.com/mit-ll/LL- > > DLEP > us.mimecast.com/s/Hm65CQWqVVTowkETMP1sl?domain=github.com> and > > RFC8175. The questions are: > > > > (a) How does a multicast receiver identify itself (and remove itself) > > > > (b) how does a (potential) multicast sender know about a multicast group > > and it's related parameters > > > > (c) how does a (potential) multicast sender know what endpoints are > > reachable via a multicast group > > > > I raised this same question with a number of people including the > > RFC8175 authors and we generally agreed that there are answers for > (a) and > > (b) that can be traced easily/obviously back to RFC8175, and a > fairly straight > > forward answer to (c) that we don't think falls within the intent of > the RFC. > > (At least the authors of RFC8175 gave the same answers that we > separately > > arrived at.) > > > > I think it would be great if we could review the questions and > ensure that we > > all agree on the answers. I can through some slides together on > this, or we > > Stan/Rick could do the same. - Or we can start with Stan's (if he > prefers) > > email on the topic. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > Thanks, > > Lou > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > manet mailing list > > manet@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > us.mimecast.com/s/Wg8OCR6rWWi53vksOjum0?domain=ietf.org> > > > This electronic message and any files transmitted with it contains > information from iDirect, which may be privileged, proprietary and/or > confidential. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or > entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the original > recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the > intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in > error, and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or > copying of this email is strictly prohibited. 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Thanks Stan and will do!

On 7/22/2019 9:18 PM, Ratliff, Stanley wrote:
Lou,

I agree with Rick - this is a good discussion for us to have. I think we can start from my email, but having said that, it you can put together a slide or two, that would be great. If the great karma of airline travel allows, I'll be in Montreal before the MANET meeting. But, since I was due in Montreal last Sunday night, I guess one never knows... ;-)

Either way, a good discussion to have.

Regards,
Stan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: manet [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:25 PM
> To: MANET IETF <manet@ietf.org>; Stan Ratliff <ratliffstan@gmail.com>
> Subject: [manet] Topic for discussion?
>
> Hi,
> If there is time on the agenda I'd like to raise/have a discussion on dlep
> support for IP multicast. These questions come out of looking at the
> opensource dlep implementation posted at https://github.com/mit-ll/LL-
> DLEP <https://protect-
> us.mimecast.com/s/Hm65CQWqVVTowkETMP1sl?domain=github.com> and
> RFC8175. The questions are:
>
> (a) How does a multicast receiver identify itself (and remove itself)
>
> (b) how does a (potential) multicast sender know about a multicast group
> and it's related parameters
>
> (c) how does a (potential) multicast sender know what endpoints are
> reachable via a multicast group
>
> I raised this same question with a number of people including the
> RFC8175 authors and we generally agreed that there are answers for (a) and
> (b) that can be traced easily/obviously back to RFC8175, and a fairly straight
> forward answer to (c) that we don't think falls within the intent of the RFC.
> (At least the authors of RFC8175 gave the same answers that we separately
> arrived at.)
>
> I think it would be great if we could review the questions and ensure that we
> all agree on the answers. I can through some slides together on this, or we
> Stan/Rick could do the same. - Or we can start with Stan's (if he prefers)
> email on the topic.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Lou
>
>
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--------------9ED0D1DE4FF3ED94FAAC9E11-- From nobody Tue Jul 23 08:32:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F0D12016D; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 08:32:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NwVJel4x9hoW; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 08:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFB1112040A; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 08:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 9D159B80430; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 08:31:53 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, drafts-update-ref@iana.org, manet@ietf.org Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20190723153153.9D159B80430@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 08:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Subject: [manet] =?utf-8?q?RFC_8629_on_Dynamic_Link_Exchange_Protocol_=28?= =?utf-8?q?DLEP=29_Multi-Hop_Forwarding_Extension?= X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 15:32:15 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 8629 Title: Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP) Multi-Hop Forwarding Extension Author: B. Cheng, L. Berger, Ed. Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: July 2019 Mailbox: bcheng@ll.mit.edu, lberger@labn.net Pages: 10 Characters: 23138 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-multi-hop-extension-07.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8629 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8629 This document defines an extension to the Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP) that enables the reporting and control of multi-hop forwarding by DLEP-capable modems. This document is a product of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. 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This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks WG of the IETF. Title : DLEP Link Identifier Extension Authors : Rick Taylor Stan Ratliff Filename : draft-ietf-manet-dlep-lid-extension-05.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2019-07-26 Abstract: The Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP) [RFC8175] describes a protocol for modems to advertise the status of wireless links between reachable destinations to attached routers. The core specification of the protocol assumes that every modem in the radio network has an attached DLEP router, and requires that the MAC address of the DLEP interface on the attached router be used to identify the destination in the network, for purposes of reporting the state and quality of the link to that destination. This document describes a DLEP Extension allowing modems that do not meet the strict requirement above to use DLEP to describe link availability and quality to one or more destinations reachable beyond a device on the Layer 2 domain. 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--00000000000044a82b058ed4046a-- From nobody Tue Jul 30 08:08:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet@ietf.org Delivered-To: manet@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6277B1201C3; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 08:08:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind_via_Datatracker?= To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-latency-extension@ietf.org, Justin Dean , aretana.ietf@gmail.com, manet-chairs@ietf.org, bebemaster@gmail.com, manet@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.99.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind?= Message-ID: <156449930438.2622.7897539215356197038.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 08:08:24 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [manet] =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind=27s_No_Objection_on_draft?= =?utf-8?q?-ietf-manet-dlep-latency-extension-04=3A_=28with_COMMENT=29?= X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 15:08:28 -0000 Mirja Kühlewind has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-manet-dlep-latency-extension-04: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-latency-extension/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I assume/understand that the measurement/calculation of the min/max values is implementation specific (as RFC8175 also states for the latency data). However, I think it would be could to state this explicitly and maybe also give some hints what to expect, e.g. it could be the 90% quantile rather than the absolute min/max. 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(Ronald) in 't" , Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006b0946058efb0bf0" Archived-At: Subject: [manet] Changes in the manet WG X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 14:36:09 -0000 --0000000000006b0946058efb0bf0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" manet WG: Justin has communicated to me his regret for not being able to continue as manet WG Chair because of his day-job commitments. Thank you for your service Justin! We look forward to your continued contribution as a WG participant. Ulrich is also unable to continue in his role as the WG's Secretary. Thank you Ulrich for all your help! We also look forward to your continued participation in the WG. In consultation with Stan and the other ADs, and considering the current low volume of work, we have decided to not appoint a new Co-Chair right away. We have asked Ronald in 't Velt to serve as WG Secretary. Ronald is a long-time IETF participant who is active in several WGs. Welcome Ronald! Thanks! Alvaro. --0000000000006b0946058efb0bf0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =
manet WG:

Justin has communicated to me his regret for not bei= ng able to continue as manet WG Chair because of his day-job commitments.= =C2=A0 Thank you for your service Justin!=C2=A0 We look forward to your con= tinued contribution as a WG participant.
Ulrich is also unable to continue in his r= ole as the WG's Secretary.=C2=A0 Thank you Ulrich for all your help!=C2= =A0 We also look forward to your continued participation in the WG.

In consultation= with Stan and the other ADs, and considering the current low volume of wor= k, we have decided to not appoint a new Co-Chair right away.=C2=A0 We have = asked Ronald in 't Velt to serve as WG Secretary.=C2=A0 Ronald is a lon= g-time IETF participant who is active in several WGs. =C2=A0 Welcome Ronald= ! =C2=A0

Thanks!

Alvaro.

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