Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [208.31.42.53]) by sb7.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l57NQfXk012252 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2007 16:26:46 -0700 Received: (qmail 95592 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2007 23:26:45 -0000 Received: from mail1.iecc.com (208.31.42.56) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 7 Jun 2007 23:26:45 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jun 2007 23:26:45 -0000 Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 00:26:45 +0100 (IST) From: John R Levine To: Yakov Shafranovich Subject: Re: [taugh.com-johnl] Re: [feedback-report] New version of the ARF draft In-Reply-To: <46687435.1030307@solidmatrix.com> Message-ID: <20070608002617.W2162@simone> References: <20070526165711.25626.qmail@gal.iecc.com> <46687435.1030307@solidmatrix.com> Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: prvs=johnl=06710c9643@taugh.com Cc: ARF mailing list X-BeenThere: abuse-feedback-report@mipassoc.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Public forum for discussion on the feedback-report draft List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:26:52 -0000 > Which is why we have an IANA registry for headers specified in this > draft. I do wonder though if it is necessary to specify that "X-" > headers are private? I don't think so, since we say it's the same rule as message headers. Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly. Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by sb7.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l57LA8PA019893 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2007 14:10:08 -0700 Received: from [68.247.230.65] (helo=[68.247.230.65]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKp8S-1HwPF71T1B-0002r9; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:10:09 -0400 Message-ID: <46687435.1030307@solidmatrix.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:10:13 -0400 From: Yakov Shafranovich Organization: SolidMatrix Technologies, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Levine Subject: Re: [feedback-report] New version of the ARF draft References: <20070526165711.25626.qmail@gal.iecc.com> In-Reply-To: <20070526165711.25626.qmail@gal.iecc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Hq2emh1cRjztND1FgzXd2G9nNm+Zz5gjhvvi daX+jY9X0i0TwN7pUuYFwzdRKSF8YXGO180bADrX0ur3p3igsi +0wHgmIWYUtYs4R2KUQpHN8HtccFwne X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: yakovs@solidmatrix.com Cc: abuse-feedback-report@mipassoc.org X-BeenThere: abuse-feedback-report@mipassoc.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Public forum for discussion on the feedback-report draft List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 21:10:13 -0000 John Levine wrote: >> Just asking for a line to allow an ISP to include information like >> this if they so choose. > > The report section is extensible, sort of like mail headers. People > can add any info lines they want. > > If it turns out that ISPs do actually provide extra info, and they do > it in a consistent way, it's not a big deal to add more line types in > the future. > Which is why we have an IANA registry for headers specified in this draft. I do wonder though if it is necessary to specify that "X-" headers are private? Yakov Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by sb7.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l57KUSWi011597 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:30:28 -0700 Received: from [10.20.30.108] (dsl-63-249-108-169.cruzio.com [63.249.108.169]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id l57KUUOM085097 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:30:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@domain-assurance.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:30:19 -0700 To: abuse-feedback-report@mipassoc.org From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: paul.hoffman@domain-assurance.org Subject: [feedback-report] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-shafranovich-feedback-report-03.txt X-BeenThere: abuse-feedback-report@mipassoc.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Public forum for discussion on the feedback-report draft List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 20:30:39 -0000 >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >directories. > > > Title : An Extensible Format for Email Feedback Reports > Author(s) : Y. Shafranovich, et al. > Filename : draft-shafranovich-feedback-report-03.txt > Pages : 26 > Date : 2007-6-7 > >This document defines an extensible format and MIME type that may be > used by network operators to report feedback about received email to > other parties. This format is intended as a machine readable > replacement for various existing report formats currently used in > Internet email. > >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-shafranovich-feedback-report-03.txt > --Paul Hoffman, Director --Domain Assurance Council