From Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Mon Jan 10 16:45:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566FE3A6828; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:45:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.493 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.493 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.106, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mzda9-oJzZIx; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:45:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C881D3A6842; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:45:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.10 Message-ID: <20110111004501.1637.58660.idtracker@localhost> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:45:01 -0800 Cc: martini@ietf.org Subject: [martini] I-D Action:draft-ietf-martini-gin-11.txt X-BeenThere: martini@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of en-mass SIP PBX registration mechanisms List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 00:45:03 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiple AoR reachabiliTy InformatioN Indication Working Group of the IETF. Title : Registration for Multiple Phone Numbers in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Author(s) : A. Roach Filename : draft-ietf-martini-gin-11.txt Pages : 33 Date : 2011-01-10 This document defines a mechanism by which a Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) server acting as a traditional Private Branch Exchange (SIP-PBX) can register with a SIP Service Provider (SSP) to receive phone calls for UAs designated by phone numbers. In order to function properly, this mechanism relies on the fact that the phone numbers are fully qualified and globally unique. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-martini-gin-11.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-martini-gin-11.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2011-01-10164324.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Tue Jan 11 15:45:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D42E3A6AC2; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:45:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.531 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OjE9NlkPM142; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:45:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4808E3A6806; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:45:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.10 Message-ID: <20110111234502.19419.79874.idtracker@localhost> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:45:02 -0800 Cc: martini@ietf.org Subject: [martini] I-D Action:draft-ietf-martini-gin-12.txt X-BeenThere: martini@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of en-mass SIP PBX registration mechanisms List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:45:03 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiple AoR reachabiliTy InformatioN Indication Working Group of the IETF. Title : Registration for Multiple Phone Numbers in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Author(s) : A. Roach Filename : draft-ietf-martini-gin-12.txt Pages : 33 Date : 2011-01-11 This document defines a mechanism by which a Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) server acting as a traditional Private Branch Exchange (SIP-PBX) can register with a SIP Service Provider (SSP) to receive phone calls for SIP User Agents (UAs). In order to function properly, this mechanism requires that each of the AORs registered in bulk map to a unique set of contacts. This requirement is satisfied by AORs representing phone numbers regardless of the domain, since phone numbers are fully qualified and globally unique. This document therefore focuses on this use case. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-martini-gin-12.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-martini-gin-12.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2011-01-11153949.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com Wed Jan 12 06:55:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A154828C126 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 06:55:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.615 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.615 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.016, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KUv+-ymNmUJp for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 06:54:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (mailgw10.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.61]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9508928C108 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 06:54:59 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3d-b7b89ae0000036a3-db-4d2dc14e108e Received: from esessmw0256.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 2B.0D.13987.E41CD2D4; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 15:57:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from [131.160.126.193] (153.88.115.8) by esessmw0256.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.97) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.234.1; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 15:57:16 +0100 Message-ID: <4D2DC14C.2050104@ericsson.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:57:16 +0200 From: Gonzalo Camarillo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "martini@ietf.org" References: <20110111234502.19419.79874.idtracker@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20110111234502.19419.79874.idtracker@localhost> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [martini] I-D Action:draft-ietf-martini-gin-12.txt X-BeenThere: martini@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of en-mass SIP PBX registration mechanisms List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:55:00 -0000 Folks, FYI. The IESG is going to discuss this draft in the January 20th telechat. Cheers, Gonzalo On 12/01/2011 1:45 AM, Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote: > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Multiple AoR reachabiliTy InformatioN Indication Working Group of the IETF. > > > Title : Registration for Multiple Phone Numbers in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) > Author(s) : A. Roach > Filename : draft-ietf-martini-gin-12.txt > Pages : 33 > Date : 2011-01-11 > > This document defines a mechanism by which a Session Initiation > Protocol (SIP) server acting as a traditional Private Branch Exchange > (SIP-PBX) can register with a SIP Service Provider (SSP) to receive > phone calls for SIP User Agents (UAs). In order to function > properly, this mechanism requires that each of the AORs registered in > bulk map to a unique set of contacts. This requirement is satisfied > by AORs representing phone numbers regardless of the domain, since > phone numbers are fully qualified and globally unique. This document > therefore focuses on this use case. > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-martini-gin-12.txt > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > Internet-Draft. From trac@tools.ietf.org Sat Jan 15 20:33:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EE93A6DA5 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:33:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.587 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.587 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.013, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O49pwgoTjWnw for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:33:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1::2a]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574DF3A6818 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:33:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PeKLl-0006NJ-OZ; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:36:21 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "martini issue tracker" X-Trac-Version: 0.11.7 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-Mailer: Trac 0.11.7, by Edgewall Software To: wkumari@google.com X-Trac-Project: martini Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 04:36:21 -0000 X-URL: http://tools.ietf.org/martini/ X-Trac-Ticket-URL: https://wiki.tools.ietf.org/wg/martini/trac/ticket/68 Message-ID: <060.8e9b8411620e1a8f72ae614eb23b8e44@tools.ietf.org> X-Trac-Ticket-ID: 68 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: wkumari@google.com, martini@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: trac@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: martini@ietf.org Subject: [martini] gin #68 (new): Ops-Dir Review X-BeenThere: martini@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 List-Id: Discussion of en-mass SIP PBX registration mechanisms List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 04:33:53 -0000 #68: Ops-Dir Review I have performed an Operations Directorate review of draft-ietf-martini- gin-12. --- Operations directorate reviews are solicited primarily to help the area directors improve their efficiency, particularly when preparing for IESG telechats, and allowing them to focus on documents requiring their attention and spend less time on the trouble-free ones. Improving the documents is important, but clearly a secondary purpose. A third purpose is to broaden the OpsDir reviewers' exposure to work going on in other parts of the IETF. Reviews from OpsDir members do not in and of themselves cause the IESG to raise issue with a document. The reviews may, however, convince individual IESG members to raise concern over a particular document requiring further discussion. The reviews, particularly those conducted in last call and earlier, may also help the document editors improve their documents. --- Review Summary: This Proposed Standard document that defines a mechanism whereby a SIP PBX can register a block of AORs. I see no major operational issues with a: the concept or b: the mechanisms described in the document. Bulk registration may simplify operations by doing away with complexity and may simplify debugging. Standardization of this approach should improve interoperability, addressing operational concerns. I found the document to be easy for an operator with no real SIP knowledge (such as myself :-p) to understand. One (minor) thing that I would have liked to see would be a bit of text suggesting a method in which an operator can tell how an AOR was registered (explicitly or implicitly through gin) -- as I said, I'm not a SIP expert, so this may a: not make sense or b: be a solved problem. -------------- Nits (some of these nits contributed by Ryan Shea, who is not subscribed). These are truly minor, but will save the Editor from having to find them: Abstract: In the abstract many acronyms are expanded (SIP, SIP-PBX, UA), but AOR is not. Having them all expanded (or none expanded) would be nice. Section 4: Globally Routable UA URI's (GRUU) are first mentioned, but the reference to the RFC is in section 7.1. Section 5.1: Acronym "UAC" not expanded / defined. Section 6: s/An SSP using this mechanism/A SSP using this mechanism/ Section 7.1.2.1 (indented): s/The registrar maintains a counter, I. this counter is/The registrar maintains a counter, I. This counter is/ (Capitalization of 't'). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Operations and Management Review Checklist A.1. Operational Considerations 1. Has deployment been discussed? Yes / N/A 2. Has installation and initial setup been discussed? N/A 3. Has the migration path been discussed? Yes -- checks for support of the mechanism are included to address coexistence / compatibility with implementations that do not support this. See sections 5.1, section "Security Considerations" and Appendix A, Req 8, Req 9 (and many others). 4. Have the Requirements on other protocols and functional components been discussed? Yes, as much is appropriate. 5. Has the impact on network operation been discussed? N / A. 6. Have suggestions for verifying correct operation been discussed? Not really. A little more text on this would be nice, but it appears that "normal" SIP debugging techniques will be adequate. 7. Has management interoperability been discussed? See Section 3.1. N/A 8. Are there fault or threshold conditions that should be reported? No. 9. Is configuration discussed? N/A A.2. Management Considerations 1-6: N/A 7. Is security management discussed? A little bit more text on key management / rotation for GRUU's would have been nice, but I don't think needed, and probably out of scope. A.3. Documentation Is an operational considerations and/or manageability section part of the document? No, not specifically. Operational considerations appear to have been considered in design and addressed well enough thought the doc. Does the proposed protocol have a significant operational impact on the Internet? Don't think so. Is there proof of implementation and/or operational experience? I personally do not know of any, but then again there is no reason that I *would*, as I do not play in this space. The Introduction section states: "this approach has seen significant deployment in certain environments. In particular, deployments in which small to medium SIP-PBX servers are addressed using E.164 numbers have used this mechanism to avoid the need to maintain DNS entries or static IP addresses for the SIP-PBX servers." and I see no reason to doubt this :-) -- -----------------------------------+---------------------------------------- Reporter: wkumari@… | Owner: Type: defect | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: milestone1 Component: gin | Version: 1.0 Severity: Submitted WG Document | Keywords: -----------------------------------+---------------------------------------- Ticket URL: martini From Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Fri Jan 21 14:00:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3273A67FD; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:00:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.093 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.093 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.506, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TWXp9cKVMJkG; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEEC3A6A81; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:00:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.10 Message-ID: <20110121220001.17291.18843.idtracker@localhost> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:00:01 -0800 Cc: martini@ietf.org Subject: [martini] I-D Action:draft-ietf-martini-gin-13.txt X-BeenThere: martini@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of en-mass SIP PBX registration mechanisms List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:00:04 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiple AoR reachabiliTy InformatioN Indication Working Group of the IETF. Title : Registration for Multiple Phone Numbers in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Author(s) : A. Roach Filename : draft-ietf-martini-gin-13.txt Pages : 34 Date : 2011-01-21 This document defines a mechanism by which a Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) server acting as a traditional Private Branch Exchange (SIP-PBX) can register with a SIP Service Provider (SSP) to receive phone calls for SIP User Agents (UAs). In order to function properly, this mechanism requires that each of the Addresses of Record (AORs) registered in bulk map to a unique set of contacts. This requirement is satisfied by AORs representing phone numbers regardless of the domain, since phone numbers are fully qualified and globally unique. This document therefore focuses on this use case. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-martini-gin-13.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-martini-gin-13.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2011-01-21135047.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com Sat Jan 22 00:47:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002E33A6B3F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 00:47:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.615 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.615 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.016, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U93cCESecn4K for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 00:47:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (mailgw10.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.61]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6C63A6B3E for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 00:47:55 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3d-b7b89ae0000036a3-88-4d3a9a637270 Received: from esessmw0197.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id C1.2C.13987.36A9A3D4; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 09:50:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [131.160.126.172] (153.88.115.8) by esessmw0197.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.88) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.234.1; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 09:50:43 +0100 Message-ID: <4D3A9A62.1040207@ericsson.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:50:42 +0200 From: Gonzalo Camarillo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "martini@ietf.org" References: <20110121220001.17291.18843.idtracker@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20110121220001.17291.18843.idtracker@localhost> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [martini] I-D Action:draft-ietf-martini-gin-13.txt X-BeenThere: martini@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of en-mass SIP PBX registration mechanisms List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 08:47:58 -0000 Hi, this version of the draft addresses all the comments received during its IESG review. There is still a discuss logged against this document, but it will be cleared shortly based on our discussions. You can see the diffs from previous versions in the ID tracker. I intend to approve this draft shortly. Cheers, Gonzalo On 22/01/2011 12:00 AM, Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote: > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Multiple AoR reachabiliTy InformatioN Indication Working Group of the IETF. > > > Title : Registration for Multiple Phone Numbers in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) > Author(s) : A. Roach > Filename : draft-ietf-martini-gin-13.txt > Pages : 34 > Date : 2011-01-21 > > This document defines a mechanism by which a Session Initiation > Protocol (SIP) server acting as a traditional Private Branch Exchange > (SIP-PBX) can register with a SIP Service Provider (SSP) to receive > phone calls for SIP User Agents (UAs). In order to function > properly, this mechanism requires that each of the Addresses of > Record (AORs) registered in bulk map to a unique set of contacts. > This requirement is satisfied by AORs representing phone numbers > regardless of the domain, since phone numbers are fully qualified and > globally unique. This document therefore focuses on this use case. > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-martini-gin-13.txt > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > Internet-Draft. From spencer@wonderhamster.org Sun Jan 23 05:46:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65DCE3A68E9 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:46:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.237 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.237 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.498, BAYES_20=-0.74, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OdUOWXL-J39x for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:46:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425DF3A68E2 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:46:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from S73602b (cpe-76-182-230-135.tx.res.rr.com [76.182.230.135]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MX0u4-1PkKDi35lM-00WLPY; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 08:49:12 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Spencer Dawkins" To: Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:49:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:QIAxB1uR4Rw6Ch94F3BIzNnPyzmQNm6uw8iqDsEO5/q BYpDdcElfv4iNhL8wmxfshoNMlC9Ib63YvjeCTMUDvYhjOah3w 0PVsz3uoTIRX+AUEz8NEC8iI0pfBLGXdmw5gbEjOpRYGq9wOts XCGDP+YkfYguhowvQIDYiSmy9HO8D4h06L+Xn/GezWImx0qFRt j/zUzhiQ6qYG3CIlUkKwL3Tu1GbMHVMGemn1yjKx0w= Subject: [martini] IESG approval of http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-martini-gin-13.txt X-BeenThere: martini@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of en-mass SIP PBX registration mechanisms List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:46:23 -0000 Dear MARTINI working group, Gonzalo is planning to approve the GIN draft on Tuesday - if you have comments on >>>> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-martini-gin-13.txt >>>> >>>> Diffs here: >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-martini-gin-13 please let us know Real Soon Now. Spencer, as co-chair... > Hi, > > I am going to give the martini list one extra day to have a look at this > version of the draft. I intend to approve this draft on Tuesday. > > Cheers, > > Gonzalo From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Tue Jan 25 10:01:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B973A688A; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:01:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7zOPcdvPV-xT; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:01:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66073A688B; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:01:41 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.10 Message-ID: <20110125180141.20472.38889.idtracker@localhost> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:01:41 -0800 Cc: martini chair , Internet Architecture Board , martini mailing list , RFC Editor Subject: [martini] Protocol Action: 'Registration for Multiple Phone Numbers in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-martini-gin-13.txt) X-BeenThere: martini@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of en-mass SIP PBX registration mechanisms List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:01:42 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Registration for Multiple Phone Numbers in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)' (draft-ietf-martini-gin-13.txt) as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Multiple AoR reachabiliTy InformatioN Indication Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Gonzalo Camarillo and Robert Sparks. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-martini-gin/ Technical Summary This document defines a mechanism by which a SIP server acting as a traditional Private Branch Exchange (SIP-PBX) can register with a SIP Service Provider (SSP) to receive phone calls for UAs designated by phone numbers. The mechanism requires that the multiple AoRs being registered are each globally unique, which is the case for fully qualified AoRs representing E.164 numbers. Working Group Summary Since this document relates to the registration of multiple AoRs in a single exchange, much of the discussion centered around the implications and limitations of the scheme. In particular, there was extensive discussion on potential requirements for globally reachable contact URIs, as well as the circumstances under which the multiple AoRs being registered would each be globally unique. Although the globally unique AoR requirement can be met for email-style URIs as well as URIs representing E.164 numbers, this document chooses to focus on URIs representing E.164 numbers only. Document Quality The document has been reviewed by participants within the IETF MARTINI WG, including SIP service providers as well as representatives from the PBX vendor community. It has gone through MARTINI WG last call. Personnel Bernard Aboba is the document shepherd for this document. Gonzalo Camarillo is the responsible AD. From spencer@wonderhamster.org Tue Jan 25 14:51:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4883A68A2 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:51:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.226 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.226 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.372, BAYES_00=-2.599, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Bv0HIFCOe5uI for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:51:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADC13A682C for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:51:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from S73602b ([12.172.14.11]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LgaRJ-1Q2doL3NQb-00nixl; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:54:02 -0500 Message-ID: <7CF91A54FE69451C86D9901E6E6957CE@china.huawei.com> From: "Spencer Dawkins" To: Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:53:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:qOCNpQGzSbAyefi/yLFV7SDjXsy8PmA8bJssuOR1BHC uxVAeEb8RSSzBJfzF0CCUo1Jv9yzhCZK+R0zluLW3tpyeQ7T5x bZHIKImMn6m+yFoxkF7epLogjCOKWqaRGjwUx1qtKOYYheIZfw F62tuIaKh4BK2roQjnGsLCd/nDjTgDt0TijTmaBm7Qq8ifwFT4 gWqfs+95Qam5Da3mm/xKYZPV0IiEqkP4fsTY6Fu+Dc= Subject: [martini] Fw: Protocol Action: 'Registration for Multiple Phone Numbersin the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)' to ProposedStandard (draft-ietf-martini-gin-13.txt) X-BeenThere: martini@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of en-mass SIP PBX registration mechanisms List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:51:05 -0000 Dear Martini, The approval announcement for GIN-13 has been sent. Thanks to all of you for your contributions, and especially to Adam for holding the pen on this specification. Based on this document being approved, Bernard and I have canceled our request for a meeting slot in Prague at IETF 80. Spencer, as co-chair > The IESG has approved the following document: > - 'Registration for Multiple Phone Numbers in the Session Initiation > Protocol (SIP)' > (draft-ietf-martini-gin-13.txt) as a Proposed Standard > > This document is the product of the Multiple AoR reachabiliTy InformatioN > Indication Working Group. > > The IESG contact persons are Gonzalo Camarillo and Robert Sparks. > > A URL of this Internet Draft is: > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-martini-gin/ > > > > > Technical Summary > > This document defines a mechanism by which a SIP server acting as a > traditional Private Branch Exchange (SIP-PBX) can register with a SIP > Service Provider (SSP) to receive phone calls for UAs designated by > phone numbers. The mechanism requires that the multiple AoRs being > registered are each globally unique, which is the case for fully qualified > AoRs representing E.164 numbers. > > Working Group Summary > > Since this document relates to the registration of multiple AoRs in > a single exchange, much of the discussion centered around the > implications and limitations of the scheme. In particular, there > was extensive discussion on potential requirements for globally > reachable contact URIs, as well as the circumstances under > which the multiple AoRs being registered would each be globally > unique. Although the globally unique AoR requirement can be > met for email-style URIs as well as URIs representing E.164 > numbers, this document chooses to focus on URIs representing > E.164 numbers only. > > Document Quality > > The document has been reviewed by participants within the IETF MARTINI WG, > including SIP service providers as well as representatives from the PBX > vendor > community. It has gone through MARTINI WG last call. > > Personnel > > Bernard Aboba is the document shepherd for this document. > Gonzalo Camarillo is the responsible AD. > _______________________________________________ > martini mailing list > martini@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/martini From richard@shockey.us Tue Jan 25 15:51:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A0F3A68F4 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:51:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.003 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.003 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.262, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gz4Gcd3hM83M for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:51:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from oproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.60]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 092923A68EF for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:51:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2832 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jan 2011 23:54:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box462.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.62) by oproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2011 23:54:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=shockey.us; h=Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language:X-Identified-User; b=aRCoTjImnIGnZkjAJlQU6BHu5Fje5tH6qLWuS2QWa/MCFPUS+3y428buBSOwV0jXHSYY8APid6/0YxranvT7yCVu/8Ihysv95LMvhR/7IGx1kcfZzPsTEck3BoB/qnpo; Received: from pool-173-79-200-247.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.200.247] helo=RSHOCKEYPC) by box462.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Phsij-000611-4N; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:54:45 -0700 From: "Richard Shockey" To: "'Spencer Dawkins'" , References: <7CF91A54FE69451C86D9901E6E6957CE@china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <7CF91A54FE69451C86D9901E6E6957CE@china.huawei.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:54:42 -0500 Message-ID: <01c301cbbceb$3d66b9f0$b8342dd0$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acu84sTDXFedtqiNQLigqVUxnmM8mgACDD1A Content-Language: en-us X-Identified-User: {3286:box462.bluehost.com:shockeyu:shockey.us} {sentby:smtp auth 173.79.200.247 authed with richard@shockey.us} Subject: Re: [martini] Fw: Protocol Action: 'Registration for Multiple Phone Numbersin the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)' to ProposedStandard (draft-ietf-martini-gin-13.txt) X-BeenThere: martini@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of en-mass SIP PBX registration mechanisms List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:51:49 -0000 And on behalf of the SIP Forum and the SIPconnect task group we are very very grateful to all of you. Thank you Adam! -----Original Message----- From: martini-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:martini-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Spencer Dawkins Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 5:54 PM To: martini@ietf.org Subject: [martini] Fw: Protocol Action: 'Registration for Multiple Phone Numbersin the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)' to ProposedStandard (draft-ietf-martini-gin-13.txt) Dear Martini, The approval announcement for GIN-13 has been sent. Thanks to all of you for your contributions, and especially to Adam for holding the pen on this specification. Based on this document being approved, Bernard and I have canceled our request for a meeting slot in Prague at IETF 80. Spencer, as co-chair > The IESG has approved the following document: > - 'Registration for Multiple Phone Numbers in the Session Initiation > Protocol (SIP)' > (draft-ietf-martini-gin-13.txt) as a Proposed Standard > > This document is the product of the Multiple AoR reachabiliTy InformatioN > Indication Working Group. > > The IESG contact persons are Gonzalo Camarillo and Robert Sparks. > > A URL of this Internet Draft is: > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-martini-gin/ > > > > > Technical Summary > > This document defines a mechanism by which a SIP server acting as a > traditional Private Branch Exchange (SIP-PBX) can register with a SIP > Service Provider (SSP) to receive phone calls for UAs designated by > phone numbers. The mechanism requires that the multiple AoRs being > registered are each globally unique, which is the case for fully qualified > AoRs representing E.164 numbers. > > Working Group Summary > > Since this document relates to the registration of multiple AoRs in > a single exchange, much of the discussion centered around the > implications and limitations of the scheme. In particular, there > was extensive discussion on potential requirements for globally > reachable contact URIs, as well as the circumstances under > which the multiple AoRs being registered would each be globally > unique. Although the globally unique AoR requirement can be > met for email-style URIs as well as URIs representing E.164 > numbers, this document chooses to focus on URIs representing > E.164 numbers only. > > Document Quality > > The document has been reviewed by participants within the IETF MARTINI WG, > including SIP service providers as well as representatives from the PBX > vendor > community. It has gone through MARTINI WG last call. > > Personnel > > Bernard Aboba is the document shepherd for this document. > Gonzalo Camarillo is the responsible AD. > _______________________________________________ > martini mailing list > martini@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/martini _______________________________________________ martini mailing list martini@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/martini From trac@tools.ietf.org Wed Jan 26 04:00:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129773A69B0 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:00:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.589 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.589 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.011, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UvJqYJv6B38u for ; 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SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: martini@ietf.org Subject: Re: [martini] gin #68 (closed): Ops-Dir Review X-BeenThere: martini@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 List-Id: Discussion of en-mass SIP PBX registration mechanisms List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:00:00 -0000 #68: Ops-Dir Review Changes (by bernard_aboba@…): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed -- -----------------------------------+---------------------------------------- Reporter: wkumari@… | Owner: Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: minor | Milestone: milestone1 Component: gin | Version: 1.0 Severity: Submitted WG Document | Resolution: fixed Keywords: | -----------------------------------+---------------------------------------- Ticket URL: martini From spencer@wonderhamster.org Fri Jan 28 05:11:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B033A67F5 for ; 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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_05A5_01CBBEBA.F83357E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:8JBQ3Nq0IIz3mEe7bVNXGofA7qON5pMsZujwwSl5NaZ A5ZQr9EfVJe1knUui7bMSdW3dfLcm2x+M8t3RtEU0YDRd8XCPF 0iCLR61AM/n5f7ZI0eE6N0hw49c+U6WGm0CAEZr7cBGoYByCqd 0k0NUyQLHxSIT/pMn/JTl38Gm/GHz79mguBycvzTQSPy986poF tdrsYuen7Zfj2YAqAUMS6p2WHBtcnoPw53C1qTEux8= Subject: [martini] Working group direction X-BeenThere: martini@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of en-mass SIP PBX registration mechanisms List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:11:28 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_05A5_01CBBEBA.F83357E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just to let people know - Bernard and I have agreed with Gonzalo that we = will not meet in Prague, we will wait until GIN is published in case = questions arrive while the RFC is being produced, we will conclude the = working group when the RFC is published, and we will leave the mailing = list open to handle implementation questions, interop testing, etc. Please let us know if you have other visions. 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Just to let people know - Bernard and I have agreed = with=20 Gonzalo that we will not meet in Prague, we will wait until GIN is = published in=20 case questions arrive while the RFC is being produced, we will conclude = the=20 working group when the RFC is published, and we will leave the mailing = list open=20 to handle implementation questions, interop testing, etc.
 
Please let us know if you have other = visions.
 
Thanks,
 
Spencer
------=_NextPart_000_05A5_01CBBEBA.F83357E0-- From bernard_aboba@hotmail.com Fri Jan 28 18:40:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3433A6A89 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:40:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.094 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.094 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.096, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_54=0.6, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4wWdLdjvtdQn for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:40:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from blu0-omc2-s25.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s25.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E863A6A7E for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:40:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from BLU152-W2 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s25.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:43:56 -0800 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2c8d7d40-6c02-4c85-a65a-77e8cd405158_" X-Originating-IP: [98.203.198.61] From: Bernard Aboba To: Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:43:56 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2011 02:43:56.0426 (UTC) FILETIME=[5FBD3EA0:01CBBF5E] Subject: [martini] SIPNOC Conference Announcement (forwarded at request of Dr. Eric Burger) X-BeenThere: martini@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of en-mass SIP PBX registration mechanisms List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 02:40:50 -0000 --_2c8d7d40-6c02-4c85-a65a-77e8cd405158_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The SIP Forum is holding its first SIP Network Operators Conference=20 (SIPNOC) on April 25th to the 27th=2C 2011=2C at the Hyatt Dulles Hotel in= =20 Herndon=2C Virginia 96 a few minutes from Dulles International Airport. SIP= NOC is a technical conference developed for service providers and=20 carriers to gather and discuss the challenges of deploying and=20 implementing SIP-based communications technology=2C and to share the=20 best-practices and strategies that enable the successful and profitable=20 operation of SIP-based services and applications in fixed and mobile IP=20 network environments. Unlike other events=2C this conference is for SIP=20 network operations personnel=2C such as NOC engineers=2C rather than a=20 high-level conference for executives.For more information about SIPNOC=2C i= ncluding the preliminary schedule of=20 events and other important details about the conference=2C please visit=20 http://www.sipnoc.org.The SIPNOC Program Committee is seeking proposals for= presentations=2C=20 panels=2C or BOFs (Birds-Of-a-Feather sessions) for the SIPNOC 2011=20 program. We invite presentations highlighting issues relating to SIP=20 network deployments. Operators are encouraged to present on successes=2C=20 issues=2C and concerns found in their deployments. Vendors are encouraged=20 to work with operators to present real-world deployment experiences.The dea= dline for submission of presentation/paper abstracts and draft=20 slides is February 21=2C 2011. Full details of the submission process and policies=2C as well as other=20 SIPNOC 2011 dates of interest=2C can be found at: http://www.sipforum.org/content/view/374/275/ I look forward to seeing you at the event!Best Wishes=2C Eric Burger SIPNOC Chair = --_2c8d7d40-6c02-4c85-a65a-77e8cd405158_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The SIP Forum is holding its first SIP Network Operators Conference =3B=

(SIPNOC) on Ap= ril 25th to the 27th=2C 2011=2C at the Hyatt Dulles Hotel in =3B
Her= ndon=2C Virginia =3B96 a few minutes from Dulles International Airport.=

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best-practices and strategies that ena= ble the successful and profitable =3B
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network environments. = Unlike other events=2C this conference is for SIP =3B
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program.  =3BWe invite presentat= ions highlighting issues relating to SIP =3B
network deployments. Op= erators are encouraged to present on successes=2C =3B
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to w= ork with operators to present real-world deployment experiences.

The deadline for submis= sion of presentation/paper abstracts and draft =3B
slides is Februar= y 21=2C 2011.
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I look forward= to seeing you at the event!

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= --_2c8d7d40-6c02-4c85-a65a-77e8cd405158_-- From bernard_aboba@hotmail.com Fri Jan 28 16:00:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: martini@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3241D3A69A2 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:00:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.207, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L7POeSG92bXb for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:00:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from blu0-omc2-s30.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s30.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.105]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6ED3A696B for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:00:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from BLU152-DS2 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s30.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:03:36 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [131.107.0.72] X-Originating-Email: [bernard_aboba@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: Bernard Aboba To: Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:03:35 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01CBBF04.EBCCE800" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Acu/R/aPSzLsGbNeSjK0eLZ6gDnb4Q== Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2011 00:03:36.0959 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA1710F0:01CBBF47] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:21:00 -0800 Subject: [martini] SIPNOC Conference Announcement (forwarded at request of Eric Burger) X-BeenThere: martini@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of en-mass SIP PBX registration mechanisms List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 00:00:31 -0000 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CBBF04.EBCCE800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The SIP Forum is holding its first SIP Network Operators Conference (SIPNOC) on April 25th to the 27th, 2011, at the Hyatt Dulles Hotel in Herndon, Virginia 96 a few minutes from Dulles International Airport. SIPNOC is a technical conference developed for service providers and carriers to gather and discuss the challenges of deploying and implementing SIP-based communications technology, and to share the best-practices and strategies that enable the successful and profitable operation of SIP-based services and applications in fixed and mobile IP network environments. Unlike other events, this conference is for SIP network operations personnel, such as NOC engineers, rather than a high-level conference for executives. For more information about SIPNOC, including the preliminary schedule of events and other important details about the conference, please visit http://www.sipnoc.org. The SIPNOC Program Committee is seeking proposals for presentations, panels, or BOFs (Birds-Of-a-Feather sessions) for the SIPNOC 2011 program. We invite presentations highlighting issues relating to SIP network deployments. Operators are encouraged to present on successes, issues, and concerns found in their deployments. Vendors are encouraged to work with operators to present real-world deployment experiences. The deadline for submission of presentation/paper abstracts and draft slides is February 21, 2011. Full details of the submission process and policies, as well as other SIPNOC 2011 dates of interest, can be found at: http://www.sipforum.org/content/view/374/275/ I look forward to seeing you at the event! Best Wishes, Eric Burger SIPNOC Chair ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CBBF04.EBCCE800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The SIP = Forum is holding its first SIP Network Operators = Conference 
(SIPNOC) on April 25th to the 27th, 2011, at the = Hyatt Dulles Hotel in 
Herndon, Virginia 96 a few minutes = from Dulles International Airport.

 

SIPNOC is a technical conference = developed for service providers and 
carriers to gather and = discuss the challenges of deploying and 
implementing SIP-based = communications technology, and to share the 
best-practices and = strategies that enable the successful and profitable 
operation = of SIP-based services and applications in fixed and mobile = IP 
network environments. Unlike other events, this conference = is for SIP 
network operations personnel, such as NOC engineers, = rather than a 
high-level conference for = executives.

For more information about SIPNOC, = including the preliminary schedule of 
events and other = important details about the conference, please visit 
http://www.sipnoc.org.

<= p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>The SIPNOC Program = Committee is seeking proposals for presentations, 
panels, or = BOFs (Birds-Of-a-Feather sessions) for the SIPNOC 2011 
program. =  We invite presentations highlighting issues relating to = SIP 
network deployments. Operators are encouraged to present on = successes, 
issues, and concerns found in their deployments. = Vendors are encouraged 
to work with operators to present = real-world deployment experiences.

The deadline for submission of = presentation/paper abstracts and draft 
slides is February 21, = 2011.
Full details of the submission process and policies, as well as = other 
SIPNOC 2011 dates of interest, can be found at:
http://www.sipforu= m.org/content/view/374/275/

I look forward to seeing you at = the event!

Best Wishes,
Eric = Burger
SIPNOC Chair

 =

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