From nobody Tue Nov 4 02:46:41 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4E01A0191 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 02:46:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.613 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.613 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m8MZ8A5--NWt for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 02:46:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pechora5.dc.icann.org (pechora5.icann.org [IPv6:2620:0:2830:201::1:71]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EE0D1A008D for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 02:46:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ob0-x230.google.com (mail-ob0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::230]) by pechora5.dc.icann.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sA4AkE3a024277 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 10:46:34 GMT Received: by mail-ob0-f176.google.com with SMTP id va2so10520691obc.35 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 02:46:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mygrid.org.uk; s=google; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=8YaFSWYEaK8LNdS8Jp6aMDWcyoPyv7pOPU+eORtaY84=; b=V/Wlyuknmeu7eRMYKb15s+9VQtMuV8ieJ2lsQxcNqnW8JPn6OfYzjUSyAMIx1TMa+x yBHZGgtXhFzq7aDQiHI6XPZzsDfdAKnqWdhKbMkUXASNidBYr+UDroDJExxtUsLa6R/D SY+rw1xcoisbJ2sgmPTC6PMm9vEcl5ZdoWXSo= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=8YaFSWYEaK8LNdS8Jp6aMDWcyoPyv7pOPU+eORtaY84=; b=L+2hXon1ZcRwq+waRn/Aa5HYS8PJUE4BPFJaeif1QBBkS0f5KobD6lFsMD9b4zMMzu 5tkWlXw1gSA465cZQVAAK7d8ptDNwUCpFSpY2DqiRe1pXdD/0lmFXumjSZ6LNwKLZRYN UBlnxBu1zdTXQ6gry0lpR+VIJ8vHlQtSpg19B/wG0NNr4wTQ/wZoLoEGpnOSYhn6Ih3K wADdh0s2o0gpKs7Yho4I2SKtTkygdYspnmbUCS1Tw9ckyWdfXJxTCPowy6BnIpZTFIGh iUpYak3w5PG/N95DvVd1nwgiHDzjMsoQc7GsxZ8PowAjB5PUmlvtGw5BW4vXiysSFA/b 4BkQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQklc9V03WgV+MCfFS9N2NOB7CNKWqUEufNBcwAs9JYufLDBmm+xIf81qXuvcD8olP1HKksj X-Received: by 10.60.82.163 with SMTP id j3mr41954332oey.13.1415097633222; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 02:40:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: stian@mygrid.org.uk Received: by 10.76.130.116 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 02:40:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <54235269.2060002@seantek.com> <01PCZ1WHF6Q80000SM@mauve.mrochek.com> From: Stian Soiland-Reyes Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 10:40:11 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: LrI_MKmMbA2oZrpHjFpuKzsnTHo Message-ID: To: Ira McDonald Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (pechora5.dc.icann.org [IPv6:2620:0:2830:201::1:71]); Tue, 04 Nov 2014 10:46:34 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/media-types/my2DYbHBJO47xbkMySHvWq10rcY Cc: IETF Apps Discuss , Ned Freed , media-types@iana.org, Matthew Kerwin Subject: Re: [media-types] [apps-discuss] A proposal for a new top-level media type: archive X-BeenThere: media-types@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "IANA mailing list for reviewing Media Type \(MIME Type, Content Type\) registration requests." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 10:46:39 -0000 Hi, Was any decission made on the new archive/ tree? Can we just start sending in submission? I would like to submit my archive/robundle+zip as we want to stabilize our spec. On 13 October 2014 10:35, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: > +1 as well, specially on the general handling. For instance any archive/* > could go through antivirus check. > > We have an archive type we have been meaning to get out of draft status and > register with IANA as well, we currently call it > application/vnd.wf4ever.robundle+zip but archive/robundle+zip would be a > much better fit. > > https://w3id.org/bundle > > On 25 Sep 2014 06:06, "Ira McDonald" wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> +1 >> >> Cheers, >> - Ira >> >> >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com >> Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 >> Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Ned Freed wrote: >>> >>> > On 25 September 2014 09:23, Sean Leonard wrote: >>> >>> > > Colleagues on media-types and apps-discuss: >>> > > >>> > > I would like to propose that the IETF create a new top-level media >>> > > type: >>> > > archive. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Colour me interested. >>> >>> Yeah, me too. I'm surpised nobody has suggested this before. >>> >>> Ned >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> apps-discuss mailing list >>> apps-discuss@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> media-types mailing list >> media-types@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/media-types >> > -- Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team School of Computer Science The University of Manchester http://soiland-reyes.com/stian/work/ http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718 From nobody Tue Nov 4 15:26:43 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBB11A19F9 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 15:26:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.333 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.333 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8M9BnZ2l-LDq for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 15:26:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from pechora4.lax.icann.org (pechora4.icann.org [IPv6:2620:0:2d0:201::1:74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E39A1A0636 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 15:26:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wg0-x22c.google.com (mail-wg0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22c]) by pechora4.lax.icann.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sA4NQIFj030184 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 23:26:39 GMT Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id x12so14184655wgg.3 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:26:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=R37/rWe9Y0zXdGHiV+pQqdYEW4R+XAP60usDyPC7of8=; b=vxSyrgPwVYqlouUx6IpwsJiASTHeLj8R09FJH9VLPAraqMtdcl6i/36B4k/Bv4+WtW 4oq3VVhGscJ2MRgn3dtnHLqP5x9uNOeQHQEl7qOdEG2K2NvjI3K7QHV8DIN+FYGnRH0a 9xnj5F6TnHb4nQ3bxOyOsiRdJf5j44mnmzgTjImYvWaJypKNI2lFsT76iYlhS4zal09R qC8YujMeNVVKU42OEcduISMVzvTf0rJn0Vprtz2UbZNWJSV3Vu4WGCZDTc9ugSL6Q8wA QtUfG0/Jrf7ZxSJuqt8aEvqtiFzbT7AnpvvSMm0D8lp3CuieFiP+0QThmmU3wmy08+w1 l32w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.91.49 with SMTP id cb17mr27277569wib.30.1415143578577; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:26:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.27.76.134 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 15:26:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <54235269.2060002@seantek.com> <01PCZ1WHF6Q80000SM@mauve.mrochek.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 15:26:18 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: Stian Soiland-Reyes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c7b2a4eb0ce050710ca89 X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (pechora4.lax.icann.org [IPv6:2620:0:2d0:201::1:74]); Tue, 04 Nov 2014 23:26:39 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/media-types/TdFd63WUEbP-p2s5AC4T6f4ke9M Cc: Ira McDonald , Ned Freed , "media-types@iana.org" , IETF Apps Discuss Subject: Re: [media-types] [apps-discuss] A proposal for a new top-level media type: archive X-BeenThere: media-types@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "IANA mailing list for reviewing Media Type \(MIME Type, Content Type\) registration requests." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 23:26:42 -0000 --f46d043c7b2a4eb0ce050710ca89 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes < soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote: > Was any decission made on the new archive/ tree? > A BoF is being held next week at IETF 91 to discuss precisely this. If you are interested in participating, look for the "arcmedia" entry in the agenda and from there you should be able to find links to remote participation facilities (jabber, audio streaming). > Can we just start sending in submission? I would like to submit my > archive/robundle+zip as we want to stabilize our spec. > As others have said, it can't hurt to post a draft (once the embargo lifts). What's the worst that could happen? -MSK --f46d043c7b2a4eb0ce050710ca89 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
Was any decission made on the new archive/ tree?

A BoF is being held next week at IETF 91 to discuss precise= ly this.=C2=A0 If you are interested in participating, look for the "a= rcmedia" entry in the agenda and from there you should be able to find= links to remote participation facilities (jabber, audio streaming).
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Can we just start sending in submission? I would like to submit my
archive/robundle+zip as we want to stabilize our spec.

As others have said, it can't hurt to post a draft (onc= e the embargo lifts).=C2=A0 What's the worst that could happen?

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-MSK
--f46d043c7b2a4eb0ce050710ca89-- From nobody Tue Nov 4 16:29:19 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11831A1ABC for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 16:29:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=unavailable Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nLyjSPmg-Qw9 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 16:29:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from pechora8.dc.icann.org (pechora8.icann.org [IPv6:2620:0:2830:201::1:74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA1651A1A8C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 16:29:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by pechora8.dc.icann.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sA50StJV032644 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 00:29:15 GMT Received: from [10.0.44.217] (unknown [74.113.134.154]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B3EFB509B8; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 19:28:54 -0500 (EST) From: Sean Leonard Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_BC9AA9B1-0E16-4225-A8E0-6CB0E65BCE76"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 16:28:17 -0800 To: IETF Apps Discuss , media-types@iana.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (pechora8.dc.icann.org [192.0.46.74]); Wed, 05 Nov 2014 00:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/media-types/7TOs9b6HAL861uly6S53lQ_MeXk Subject: [media-types] (arcmedia top-level media type) draft-seantek-kerwin-arcmedia-type-00.txt X-BeenThere: media-types@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "IANA mailing list for reviewing Media Type \(MIME Type, Content Type\) registration requests." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 00:29:18 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_BC9AA9B1-0E16-4225-A8E0-6CB0E65BCE76 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello Colleagues: In preparation for the arcmedia BoF, an Internet-Draft, = draft-seantek-kerwin-arcmedia-type-00.txt, has been successfully posted to the IETF repository. This Internet-Draft was written in a hurry before the deadline, and used = RFC 2077 (January 1997) as its basis. Thus, some parts of the draft may = look a bit outdated. The main purposes of this draft are to sketch out = the purpose of the archive top level media type, and to lay out several = areas for further discussion and work. (This Internet-Draft actually posted last week, but there was a naming = snag.) Name: draft-seantek-kerwin-arcmedia-type Revision: 00 Title: Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) Tags for = ASN.1 Object Identifiers Document date: 2014-10-27 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 10 URL: = http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-seantek-kerwin-arcmedia-type-00.= txt Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-seantek-kerwin-arcmedia-type-00/ Htmlized: = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-seantek-kerwin-arcmedia-type-00 Abstract: This document defines a new primary content-type to be known as "archive", which defines a fundamental type of content with unique presentational, hardware, and processing aspects. 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Kucherawy" To: Sean Leonard Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bacb9dcd8a90b0507120814 X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (pechora3.lax.icann.org [IPv6:2620:0:2d0:201::1:73]); Wed, 05 Nov 2014 00:55:44 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/media-types/FG-6dDNkVXLhMpJmym3IsSuCF2A Cc: "media-types@iana.org" , IETF Apps Discuss Subject: Re: [media-types] [apps-discuss] (arcmedia top-level media type) draft-seantek-kerwin-arcmedia-type-00.txt X-BeenThere: media-types@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "IANA mailing list for reviewing Media Type \(MIME Type, Content Type\) registration requests." 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--047d7bacb9dcd8a90b0507120814-- From nobody Tue Nov 4 16:58:42 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255281A1A9A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 16:58:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=unavailable Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IXArCVgVLfZ9 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 16:58:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from pechora7.dc.icann.org (pechora7.icann.org [IPv6:2620:0:2830:201::1:73]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3EAA1A1AA8 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 16:58:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by pechora7.dc.icann.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sA50wJY0014783 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 00:58:39 GMT Received: from [10.0.44.217] (unknown [74.113.134.154]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 42CE350A87; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 19:58:18 -0500 (EST) From: Sean Leonard Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_BD6E87CD-05F1-4437-A890-1606B994349E"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Message-Id: <3AC44BDB-8931-4E8E-8131-38D9E2117283@seantek.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 16:57:21 -0800 References: To: IETF Apps Discuss , "media-types@iana.org" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (pechora7.dc.icann.org [192.0.46.73]); Wed, 05 Nov 2014 00:58:39 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/media-types/WaQ103f5bcjZ8yLCk381D7r7OBE Subject: Re: [media-types] [apps-discuss] (arcmedia top-level media type) draft-seantek-kerwin-arcmedia-type-00.txt X-BeenThere: media-types@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "IANA mailing list for reviewing Media Type \(MIME Type, Content Type\) registration requests." 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Kucherawy = wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Sean Leonard = wrote: >=20 > Name: draft-seantek-kerwin-arcmedia-type > Revision: 00 > Title: Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) Tags for = ASN.1 Object Identifiers >=20 > Curious title. Did you actually receive it this way? 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Kucherawy" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (pechora4.lax.icann.org [IPv6:2620:0:2d0:201::1:74]); Wed, 05 Nov 2014 11:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/media-types/aqQX20ThmPapdXV2GUanU7WE6VA Cc: Ira McDonald , Ned Freed , "media-types@iana.org" Subject: Re: [media-types] [apps-discuss] A proposal for a new top-level media type: archive X-BeenThere: media-types@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "IANA mailing list for reviewing Media Type \(MIME Type, Content Type\) registration requests." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 11:31:39 -0000 On 4 November 2014 23:26, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes > wrote: >> >> Was any decission made on the new archive/ tree? > > > A BoF is being held next week at IETF 91 to discuss precisely this. If you > are interested in participating, look for the "arcmedia" entry in the agenda > and from there you should be able to find links to remote participation > facilities (jabber, audio streaming). Thanks, I've signed up as remote participant, so I'll join the WebEx for this BOF. >> Can we just start sending in submission? I would like to submit my >> archive/robundle+zip as we want to stabilize our spec. > As others have said, it can't hurt to post a draft (once the embargo lifts). > What's the worst that could happen? I just refreshed the RFC rules for this.. would I need to submit a separate RFC for a new non-vnd mediatype, or would the application here be enough? (In development we have used application/vnd.wf4ever.robundle+zip which we have not registered) From nobody Wed Nov 5 14:06:27 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3BAD1ACE63 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 14:06:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.613 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.613 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cNCMQzvYDR7K for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 14:06:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from pechora7.dc.icann.org (pechora7.icann.org [IPv6:2620:0:2830:201::1:73]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B2591ACE4D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 14:06:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oi0-x22a.google.com (mail-oi0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22a]) by pechora7.dc.icann.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sA5M5sim025604 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 22:06:14 GMT Received: by mail-oi0-f42.google.com with SMTP id a3so63006oib.15 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 14:05:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mygrid.org.uk; s=google; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5dKpi25PUwyvxMNWc5XnIWrR+Wx4EfgZhWTkBS8Zuac=; b=e8GWJQonnieTDN3llLPRsSegG3VzzGwmbNTBgRio+PwFUvhC6kBFcZcLIgtnIQEDzv /vw/r/Css/LM8JV2B5PXgeShVZB2G1M9FUMPRyG2Niwr5A8m6Zp7XtlCMQYp9Irbslux Rcy0JlUzVzptG3rQys1dN+mumro57rDRMglMQ= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5dKpi25PUwyvxMNWc5XnIWrR+Wx4EfgZhWTkBS8Zuac=; b=OgR9DI2gkY5Uk+AQElNX2mnWQNYD8Y06H+G1wVeHfiQpRpDVWtcLHRxcqgGpgwzKZI szPdBXeHpd05tiHRGltH052Rj/0mZq9gXRksEgtZgY+rKF7aAmuXQSd/9gF5IOJXQ3ka WqHsv4+aCf+HMVr+9oLviYQubGlrCmBpTvuZiI7gofoL+suPVLYaq3EsW9UNC1ghAQ6a 4XB3xVeZD31/KVh6lltUhxIeTUbghGwQR1/qTX0e8FOs037CFTbvn5fvRp+TpuXTGgJz enApxAcplLb1TTElv/37TaqOb9AxRcSokPebMjeDIzYHMx0XKlifOcpIH37xmfCiKFAv CLxw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlLnLelILyR0S9fkiQmtTMG+7DZhEVEUygvOSqTPmTmAjcuQMMm0yuQf6Y5sdAa2Nv9Fbps X-Received: by 10.60.38.1 with SMTP id c1mr76048oek.51.1415225153623; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 14:05:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: stian@mygrid.org.uk Received: by 10.76.130.116 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 14:05:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3AC44BDB-8931-4E8E-8131-38D9E2117283@seantek.com> References: <3AC44BDB-8931-4E8E-8131-38D9E2117283@seantek.com> From: Stian Soiland-Reyes Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 22:05:33 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wA3YbxJJQPjBfvSEv3nsYIIfNBs Message-ID: To: Sean Leonard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (pechora7.dc.icann.org [IPv6:2620:0:2830:201::1:73]); Wed, 05 Nov 2014 22:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/media-types/9ek3DKrJbi8yYu13KCcxF9DVwCY Cc: "media-types@iana.org" , IETF Apps Discuss Subject: Re: [media-types] [apps-discuss] (arcmedia top-level media type) draft-seantek-kerwin-arcmedia-type-00.txt X-BeenThere: media-types@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "IANA mailing list for reviewing Media Type \(MIME Type, Content Type\) registration requests." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 22:06:19 -0000 Good work! Here are some executable archive formats, btw, as I saw you listed that as controversial. https://github.com/taverna/taverna-scufl2 (Taverna Workflow Bundle - based on .zip) https://rapidminer.com/ (RapidMiner workflow - based on .zip) http://www.knime.org/ (KNIME workflow - based on .zip) https://docs.docker.com/articles/baseimages/#creating-a-simple-base-image-u= sing-scratch (Docker virtualized applications - based on .tar) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAR_%28file_format%29 (Java library and application - based on .zip) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Virtualization_Format (OVA Virtual Machine - based on .tar) However for almost all of these one can argue that their main purpose is not to be an archive, as their constituent files don't make much sense outside the execution environment, and therefore they would not want to be under archive/ for the benefit of the user. It is still interesting for anti-virus engines to investigate such archives, but then again they would also want to check the actually executable code as well.. On 5 November 2014 00:57, Sean Leonard wrote: > D=E2=80=99oh. I copied and pasted that part incorrectly (I did not receiv= e an automated notification; it was posted manually). Sorry! > > > Name: draft-seantek-kerwin-arcmedia-type > Revision: 00 > Title: The Archive Primary Media Type for File Archives > Document date: 2014-10-27 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 10 > URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-seantek-kerwin-= arcmedia-type-00.txt > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-seantek-kerwin-arc= media-type-00/ > Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-seantek-kerwin-arcmedia-= type-00 > > Sean > > On Nov 4, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wro= te: > >> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Sean Leonard wrot= e: >> >> Name: draft-seantek-kerwin-arcmedia-type >> Revision: 00 >> Title: Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) Tags for ASN= .1 Object Identifiers >> >> Curious title. Did you actually receive it this way? Might be some iss= ue with the tracker if so. >> >> -MSK > > > _______________________________________________ > media-types mailing list > media-types@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/media-types > --=20 Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team School of Computer Science The University of Manchester http://soiland-reyes.com/stian/work/ http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718 From nobody Thu Nov 6 08:30:01 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3C11A0191 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 03:27:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=unavailable Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XeI0XRw1PXSN for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 03:27:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from pechora8.dc.icann.org (pechora8.icann.org [IPv6:2620:0:2830:201::1:74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DBBA1A0073 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 03:27:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from fallback3.mail.ox.ac.uk (fallback3.mail.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.167]) by pechora8.dc.icann.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sA4BQgWp014937 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 11:27:02 GMT Received: from relay12.mail.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.1.163]) by fallback3.mail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XlcG1-0001Fq-BX for media-types@iana.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 11:26:41 +0000 Received: from smtp2.mail.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.205]) by relay12.mail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XlcFC-0002Db-fc; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 11:25:50 +0000 Received: from gklyne.plus.com ([80.229.154.156] helo=cheery.atuin.ninebynine.org) by smtp2.mail.ox.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XlcFC-0002SW-8F; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 11:25:50 +0000 Message-ID: <5458B7BE.4090000@ninebynine.org> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 11:25:50 +0000 From: Graham Klyne User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stian Soiland-Reyes , Ira McDonald References: <54235269.2060002@seantek.com> <01PCZ1WHF6Q80000SM@mauve.mrochek.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Oxford-Username: zool0635 X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (pechora8.dc.icann.org [192.0.46.74]); Tue, 04 Nov 2014 11:27:02 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/media-types/AHVIUzuqi-k6R9UmUlQsknbu0Uw X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 08:29:59 -0800 Cc: Ned Freed , media-types@iana.org, IETF Apps Discuss , Matthew Kerwin Subject: Re: [media-types] [apps-discuss] A proposal for a new top-level media type: archive X-BeenThere: media-types@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "IANA mailing list for reviewing Media Type \(MIME Type, Content Type\) registration requests." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 11:27:06 -0000 On 04/11/2014 10:40, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: > Hi, > > Was any decission made on the new archive/ tree? Not that I've seen. But that doesn't stop you from drafting and submitting a proposal for one - http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2077 might provide a model (sic) to follow. > Can we just start sending in submission? I would like to submit my > archive/robundle+zip as we want to stabilize our spec. AFAIK, there's no way to register that until the top-level type is approved, which I think requires standards action. But you might submit an Internet-draft in parallel with a top-level type proposal. #g -- > > On 13 October 2014 10:35, Stian Soiland-Reyes > wrote: >> +1 as well, specially on the general handling. For instance any archive/* >> could go through antivirus check. >> >> We have an archive type we have been meaning to get out of draft status and >> register with IANA as well, we currently call it >> application/vnd.wf4ever.robundle+zip but archive/robundle+zip would be a >> much better fit. >> >> https://w3id.org/bundle >> >> On 25 Sep 2014 06:06, "Ira McDonald" wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> +1 >>> >>> Cheers, >>> - Ira >>> >>> >>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >>> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >>> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >>> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >>> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >>> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic >>> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc >>> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com >>> Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 >>> Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Ned Freed wrote: >>>>> On 25 September 2014 09:23, Sean Leonard wrote: >>>>>> Colleagues on media-types and apps-discuss: >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to propose that the IETF create a new top-level media >>>>>> type: >>>>>> archive. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Colour me interested. >>>> Yeah, me too. I'm surpised nobody has suggested this before. >>>> >>>> Ned >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> apps-discuss mailing list >>>> apps-discuss@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> media-types mailing list >>> media-types@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/media-types >>> > > From nobody Thu Nov 6 08:30:03 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F13D1A8AD9 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 08:06:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=unavailable Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mJtoV_xGRxBA for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 08:06:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from pechora7.dc.icann.org (pechora7.icann.org [IPv6:2620:0:2830:201::1:73]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 282EE1A8AE1 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 08:06:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by pechora7.dc.icann.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sA4G6jXF011566 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 16:06:46 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.66] (76-218-8-156.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [76.218.8.156]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sA4FrAFZ025165 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 4 Nov 2014 07:53:13 -0800 Message-ID: <5458F65F.8040906@dcrocker.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 07:53:03 -0800 From: Dave Crocker Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graham Klyne , Stian Soiland-Reyes , Ira McDonald References: <54235269.2060002@seantek.com> <01PCZ1WHF6Q80000SM@mauve.mrochek.com> <5458B7BE.4090000@ninebynine.org> In-Reply-To: <5458B7BE.4090000@ninebynine.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Delayed for 00:13:26 by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (pechora7.dc.icann.org [192.0.46.73]); Tue, 04 Nov 2014 16:06:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.66]); Tue, 04 Nov 2014 07:53:14 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/media-types/qTMQUHU2Lcj5po9Q-iuttJUrO8I X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 08:29:59 -0800 Cc: Ned Freed , media-types@iana.org, IETF Apps Discuss Subject: Re: [media-types] [apps-discuss] A proposal for a new top-level media type: archive X-BeenThere: media-types@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: "IANA mailing list for reviewing Media Type \(MIME Type, Content Type\) registration requests." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 16:06:50 -0000 On 11/4/2014 3:25 AM, Graham Klyne wrote: > AFAIK, there's no way to register that until the top-level type is > approved, which I think requires standards action. But you might submit > an Internet-draft in parallel with a top-level type proposal. +1 I remain conflicted about doing this new top-level type -- per the notes I posted earlier -- but it's clear that it has meaningful, strong and broad support. (Including from one or another curmudgeon who is typically ready to attack marginal ideas...) As such, you really should just charge ahead. Formal "decision-making" comes after doing the write-up(s). d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From nobody Thu Nov 6 08:30:04 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591861ACE42 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 14:02:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, J_CHICKENPOX_75=0.6] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3C2Yyk5n43_H for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 14:02:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from pechora3.lax.icann.org (pechora3.icann.org [IPv6:2620:0:2d0:201::1:73]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 375D41ACE50 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 14:02:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay14.mail.ox.ac.uk (relay14.mail.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.162]) by pechora3.lax.icann.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sA5M2TYc027207 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 22:02:50 GMT Received: from smtp2.mail.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.205]) by relay14.mail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xm8eo-00044g-mB; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 22:02:26 +0000 Received: from gklyne.plus.com ([80.229.154.156] helo=conina-wl.atuin.ninebynine.org) by smtp2.mail.ox.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xm8eo-0002hl-8Q; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 22:02:26 +0000 Message-ID: <545A9E70.2000004@ninebynine.org> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 22:02:24 +0000 From: Graham Klyne User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Leonard , IETF Apps Discuss , media-types@iana.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Oxford-Username: zool0635 X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (pechora3.lax.icann.org [192.0.33.73]); Wed, 05 Nov 2014 22:02:50 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/media-types/K27MUiNdQx4l5k2WLz9Gmtv7v-Y X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 08:29:59 -0800 Subject: Re: [media-types] [apps-discuss] (arcmedia top-level media type) draft-seantek-kerwin-arcmedia-type-00.txt X-BeenThere: media-types@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "IANA mailing list for reviewing Media Type \(MIME Type, Content Type\) registration requests." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 22:02:52 -0000 It's good to see a proposal on the table, but I shall not be present at the BoF. If the issue of a common/default fragment identifier syntax is brought up, and without prejudice as to whether or not that's a good thing to specifiy, I would suggest looking at http://w3ctag.github.io/packaging-on-the-web/ as a candidate design (specifically http://w3ctag.github.io/packaging-on-the-web/#fragment-identifiers). The 'url=' option described there would, I think, encompass the case of a relative URI reference that is resolved relative to the base of the archive, as well as MIME-multipart-style mid:/cid: style references. E.g. http:/example.org/my/archive#url=/root/sub/file or http:/example.org/my/archive#url=cid:foo.bar@example.net I don't claim that the cid: example serves a useful purpose; I'm just noting that the 'url=' option can accommodate different forms of reference. It's not clear to me if the other options described at http://w3ctag.github.io/packaging-on-the-web/#fragment-identifiers would be useful with an archive media type, but if the keyword=value format is used, the door can be left open to supporting such options. (I don't claim that specification is itself a candidate for an archive/ subtype, because it serves a different purpose, but it would seem to me to me to make sense if there were some commonality of fragment identifier syntax and mechanism for accessing components within a composite object.) #g -- On 05/11/2014 00:28, Sean Leonard wrote: > Hello Colleagues: > > In preparation for the arcmedia BoF, an Internet-Draft, draft-seantek-kerwin-arcmedia-type-00.txt, > has been successfully posted to the IETF repository. > > This Internet-Draft was written in a hurry before the deadline, and used RFC 2077 (January 1997) as its basis. Thus, some parts of the draft may look a bit outdated. The main purposes of this draft are to sketch out the purpose of the archive top level media type, and to lay out several areas for further discussion and work. > > (This Internet-Draft actually posted last week, but there was a naming snag.) > > Name: draft-seantek-kerwin-arcmedia-type > Revision: 00 > Title: Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) Tags for ASN.1 Object Identifiers > Document date: 2014-10-27 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 10 > URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-seantek-kerwin-arcmedia-type-00.txt > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-seantek-kerwin-arcmedia-type-00/ > Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-seantek-kerwin-arcmedia-type-00 > > > Abstract: > This document defines a new primary content-type to be known as > "archive", which defines a fundamental type of content with unique > presentational, hardware, and processing aspects. > > > The IETF Secretariat > > > -Sean > > > _______________________________________________ > apps-discuss mailing list > apps-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss From nobody Thu Nov 6 10:25:18 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B731A8973 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 10:25:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.365 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.365 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6ApxGd2QHrBe for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 10:25:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from pechora4.lax.icann.org (pechora4.icann.org [IPv6:2620:0:2d0:201::1:74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC8351A8971 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 10:25:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mauve.mrochek.com (mauve.mrochek.com [66.159.242.17]) by pechora4.lax.icann.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sA6IOtDn020412 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 18:25:15 GMT Received: from dkim-sign.mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01PEMKWJ08FK003F4L@mauve.mrochek.com> for media-types@iana.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 10:19:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=mrochek.com; s=mauve; t=1415297993; bh=TuAE/bVD0Hk+0C82X3Lr+VQ7EoPC9GxKpKuuvBjrR1A=; h=Cc:Date:From:Subject:In-reply-to:References:To; b=IaRCHKPZ4d9VcH8KAcfmFBIje+dvkDdBjyI+hm8gjjZBTRCjk5IEYr5gECCQAwDGz AQSg1jk4cBXTSTHyDqGwmTRgCVrqHyo+em01tIXFuApcxCSEkd8TInaAuCScns6PRH Gh6T+YB8EfGS0QEoWxf5mvPje/xpyLMng7YP8C/0= MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Received: from mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01PEKZE5Z31C003WE3@mauve.mrochek.com>; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 10:19:48 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <01PEMKWGRLOG003WE3@mauve.mrochek.com> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 10:17:52 -0800 (PST) From: Ned Freed In-reply-to: "Your message dated Wed, 05 Nov 2014 11:30:54 +0000" References: <54235269.2060002@seantek.com> <01PCZ1WHF6Q80000SM@mauve.mrochek.com> To: Stian Soiland-Reyes X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (pechora4.lax.icann.org [192.0.33.74]); Thu, 06 Nov 2014 18:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/media-types/g-j-DcJITrCn18LUxLSbk2PsE-U Cc: Ned Freed , Ira McDonald , "Murray S. Kucherawy" , "media-types@iana.org" Subject: Re: [media-types] [apps-discuss] A proposal for a new top-level media type: archive X-BeenThere: media-types@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "IANA mailing list for reviewing Media Type \(MIME Type, Content Type\) registration requests." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 18:25:16 -0000 > >> Can we just start sending in submission? I would like to submit my > >> archive/robundle+zip as we want to stabilize our spec. > > As others have said, it can't hurt to post a draft (once the embargo lifts). > > What's the worst that could happen? > I just refreshed the RFC rules for this.. would I need to submit a > separate RFC for a new non-vnd mediatype, or would the application > here be enough? (In development we have used > application/vnd.wf4ever.robundle+zip which we have not registered) In general it depends on the standards organization behind the regisration. Such an organization could in theory have a model where publication in their document stream is not required. But in the case of the IETF, the registration MUST be published in an RFC. See RFC 6838, section 3.1, second paragraph. Ned