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This is a request for review of the media type registration found = in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stir-certificates/. It = is copied below for convenience: Type name: application Subtype name: tnauthlist Required parameters: None. Optional parameters: None. Encoding considerations: Binary. Security considerations: See Section 12 of this specification. Interoperability considerations: The TN Authorization List inside this media type MUST be DER-encoded TNAuthorizationList. Published specification: This specification. Applications that use this media type: Additional information: Magic number(s): None File extension(s): None Macintosh File Type Code(s): None Person & email address to contact for further information: Jon Peterson Intended usage: COMMON Restrictions on usage: none Author: Sean Turner Change controller: The IESG spt= From nobody Wed Nov 15 22:09:38 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41C2129541 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:09:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.635 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.635 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=sn3rd.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uLsKG_a_JLSz for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:09:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from pechora1.lax.icann.org (pechora1.icann.org [IPv6:2620:0:2d0:201::1:71]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92E3F129521 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:09:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pf0-x231.google.com (mail-pf0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pechora1.lax.icann.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58B7D1E0157 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 06:09:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pf0-x231.google.com with SMTP id i15so8560706pfa.3 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:09:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sn3rd.com; s=google; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=S7H9tKBn4cfGbpnTYWuY9jy44JtC2evPIfu4z3h4VGo=; b=EMwgfwtNcs1ny7pL6GrrEzu3VoOLxRign3qkteGICtW1su4ibGiZDfaLrligEP0PH0 k/odljML/0eITWmxpIwzq7WEPC/kTlOk5lEcS8MxMuly4NgM9iDCspKRQoPG4Wr18TDo t46xHvyPdLROQr/tAx4ReQzUAyufiJhVfz1oU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=S7H9tKBn4cfGbpnTYWuY9jy44JtC2evPIfu4z3h4VGo=; b=dLt5OUC90X7FVZfDz7CVK/mKDOKAiQt8z9sYwYxsXtxuDVjSRoPgr/uh3h83G2K603 tFDDmhjNc8IQW50WwIrHgRy5zm/CJLaGqZqwyQGFSMExBaTLUXsqVZx+4nm03k8SyN7m LMODHgyLO0buT2/hhxREuiD87eVW+aizFaXgr4jVzXEwMMel5Ar1kYtvnQPkKKPVaI+K oyH14BvfHPnsOq98thbrrYHxj3xz5V0+aMp6wPDBCwrqd+KrZiU8KsVaUEXQRLv4Jiu5 e/VFRVXHW8OWnTD4h7cWPv4IOWDJHZXBK9tT7CxulqMNDkYUIi775DS3w9rW27ZGNLdQ pm3g== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX7a+pFOS+Sf6JreeNcEbHi1JhvBhe5DmRC4iEz4w+RBYDqREHr7 1Selo5QfVygFaQ6x55yGtZe1WqKm/Ts= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMaaEVPrNJFQC7uX7cwaRMHZuQBpQ9yp33n84t4AoM8oformUGZgExOR/GnWlx+1gKF2/8ZxMQ== X-Received: by 10.84.132.76 with SMTP id 70mr619010ple.135.1510812562369; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:67c:370:128:412a:c5bc:91ac:bef5? 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This is a request for review of the media type registration found = in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stir-certificates/. It = is copied below for convenience: >=20 > Type name: application > Subtype name: tnauthlist > Required parameters: None. > Optional parameters: None. > Encoding considerations: Binary. > Security considerations: See Section 12 of this specification. > Interoperability considerations: > The TN Authorization List inside this media type MUST be > DER-encoded TNAuthorizationList. > Published specification: This specification. > Applications that use this media type: Issuers and relying parties of secure telephone identity = certificates, to limit the subject=E2=80=99s authority to a particular telephone = number or number range. > Additional information: > Magic number(s): None > File extension(s): None > Macintosh File Type Code(s): None > Person & email address to contact for further information: > Jon Peterson > Intended usage: COMMON > Restrictions on usage: none > Author: Sean Turner > Change controller: The IESG >=20 > spt From nobody Wed Nov 15 23:45:26 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2189F12421A for ; 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 07:45:24 -0000 Hello Sean, On 2017/11/16 14:57, Sean Turner wrote: > Hi! This is a request for review of the media type registration found in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stir-certificates/. It is copied below for convenience: > > Type name: application > Subtype name: tnauthlist > Required parameters: None. > Optional parameters: None. > Encoding considerations: Binary. > Security considerations: See Section 12 of this specification. "this specification" works as long as it's in context. But the registration will be taken out of context, and you have to rewrite it so that it works even then. I suggest something like "RFC XXXX", with some instructions to the RFC editor to replace XXXX with the number of the actual RFC once issued. Don't worry about RFC Editor <-> IANA coordination, that will work out, they are used to coordinate such stuff. Regards, Martin. > Interoperability considerations: > The TN Authorization List inside this media type MUST be > DER-encoded TNAuthorizationList. > Published specification: This specification. > Applications that use this media type: > Additional information: > Magic number(s): None > File extension(s): None > Macintosh File Type Code(s): None > Person & email address to contact for further information: > Jon Peterson > Intended usage: COMMON > Restrictions on usage: none > Author: Sean Turner > Change controller: The IESG > > spt > _______________________________________________ > media-types mailing list > media-types@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/media-types > . > From nobody Wed Nov 15 23:54:11 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913931287A0 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:54:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.335 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.335 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=sn3rd.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rsbQy1Wkg7fo for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:54:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from pechora8.dc.icann.org (pechora8.icann.org [192.0.46.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76015120724 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:54:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-it0-x22d.google.com (mail-it0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pechora8.dc.icann.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAF53C01D1 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 07:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-it0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id y15so4881620ita.4 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:54:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sn3rd.com; s=google; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=adwiOCM4+NpJN3q2oIlB83HzJW2smvtBUsfDQEhhoHw=; b=Rhgq37emxT7/a9IP+Bl6vPDlw7E55NmVPVQGLgUMQK85ZX6G0uaDs78K9o+2v/FHAj eVomXxPZp2TW4enQBTfE+ampgkjbAugbaKQF+jictZAM58fqqkdbI4xCDyL3qlu2LJoF gCLWkwtruNZJkZ1Vjn33iFZIOw21bqdUjvcS4= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=adwiOCM4+NpJN3q2oIlB83HzJW2smvtBUsfDQEhhoHw=; b=d3bVbnAyWg6K7zsw7obbi2ZuEeSbZrtjQ+D6e24xfftTiD2uUnSmcH8tRb90BvuhD3 Ptq+m3nwKtazMORkqtbo9nkHeAg6/8XU+4sh3BwKyV2Yq1orsMMX+FS66JcEdJey8sLf e1djx+Gp2HN4UeaTnyhZ5t7rKYrD3o9ql2e60YXEXNodjWhAuwFwDcqPrMTSAj3uqsOk ogvz2AFOTEUETRUjWhY8poIwwsiYavYUgCG3+P9IhXz87HE6i6nWnyU+uuXAb2XZKD3U wOwMyvKXe2pV64aQJxELD7tGm7hxxo1MdNSKO83ZVYbivKrMzCofQBylfBmMnr27DT9W 9P6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX63qMe4jnTUWTuMy9EUdAmDt+hklez9Cm8uSkWIIh5VCfsxFHk4 4SqRpAjq2pMA3jXwUJ+/gXF3CK6fif8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMYXz6C/YyUWBlGXiFWu1PpmdXjG0rhAiuF1vm0fRKIy2A4OIIHY4xNfsc+fSXiWSx68waNYrQ== X-Received: by 10.36.25.12 with SMTP id b12mr1308017itb.1.1510818826044; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:53:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:67c:370:128:b5ef:5810:37ff:adb6? 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D=C3=BCrst = wrote: >=20 > Hello Sean, >=20 > On 2017/11/16 14:57, Sean Turner wrote: >> Hi! This is a request for review of the media type registration = found in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stir-certificates/. = It is copied below for convenience: >> Type name: application >> Subtype name: tnauthlist >> Required parameters: None. >> Optional parameters: None. >> Encoding considerations: Binary. >> Security considerations: See Section 12 of this specification. >=20 > "this specification" works as long as it's in context. But the = registration will be taken out of context, and you have to rewrite it so = that it works even then. >=20 > I suggest something like "RFC XXXX", with some instructions to the RFC = editor to replace XXXX with the number of the actual RFC once issued. = Don't worry about RFC Editor <-> IANA coordination, that will work out, = they are used to coordinate such stuff. Roger I can do: See Section 12 of [RFCTBD]. and then add: [RFC editor=E2=80=99s instruction: Please replace RFCTBD with the RFC = number when this document is published.] spt > Regards, Martin. >=20 >> Interoperability considerations: >> The TN Authorization List inside this media type MUST be >> DER-encoded TNAuthorizationList. >> Published specification: This specification. >> Applications that use this media type: >> Additional information: >> Magic number(s): None >> File extension(s): None >> Macintosh File Type Code(s): None >> Person & email address to contact for further information: >> Jon Peterson >> Intended usage: COMMON >> Restrictions on usage: none >> Author: Sean Turner >> Change controller: The IESG >> spt >> _______________________________________________ >> media-types mailing list >> media-types@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/media-types >> . From nobody Wed Nov 22 02:51:22 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: media-types@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046C3126D85 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 02:51:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i-i_iJTp31h1 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 02:51:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-out-1.mxes.net (smtp-out-1.mxes.net [67.222.241.250]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEB84124F57 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 02:51:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.123.7] (cpe-76-90-60-238.socal.res.rr.com [76.90.60.238]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A24D627505 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 05:51:17 -0500 (EST) To: media-types@ietf.org References: From: Sean Leonard Message-ID: <5982073a-ddb1-7d5f-a189-b2d5a7a8a73e@seantek.com> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 02:49:09 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [media-types] request for review of application/tnauthlist media type X-BeenThere: media-types@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "IANA mailing list for reviewing Media Type \(MIME Type, Content Type\) registration requests." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:51:21 -0000 Comments of mine were originally posted on the STIR mailing list. I believe that since that posting, the comments has been addressed. I am = reposting an excerpt of my comments specific to the registration (but,=20 as I pointed out, they have already been addressed on the STIR mailing=20 list): The registration looks acceptable. I do not see showstoppers. Personally = I would like to see =E2=80=9CPublished Specification:=E2=80=9D say Sectio= n(s) XXX of this specification, rather than the specification as a whole,= since really only Sections 9 and 10 are relevant. It=E2=80=99s not clear why you need it to be DER. What if it=E2=80=99s BE= R? Is that a fatal error if it=E2=80=99s BER but not DER? (Since DER is a= subset of BER.) According to RFC 6839 you MAY use a structured syntax suffix, namely +ber= or +der. However, the use of +ber and +der are just MAYs and are not req= uired. There are two reasons: 1) A lot of ASN.1 X.690 registrations predate RFC 6838/6839, so there was= no structured syntax suffix at the time. 2) Section 2 of RFC 6839 says: At the same time, using the suffix allows receivers of the media types to do generic processing of the underlying representation in cases where they do not need to perform special handling of the particular semantics of the exact media type, and there is no special knowledge needed by such a generic processor in order to parse that underlying representation other than what would be needed to parse any example of that underlying representation. For 99.9999% of ASN.1 / X.690 encoded material, a blob of data is useless= without the complete ASN.1 module defining the data (due to contextual r= emapping, implicit vs. explicit tagging, etc.). Therefore +ber and +der a= re, to my mind, never really required. Therefore, I find the media subtype name application/tnauthlist acceptabl= e. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [...] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I noticed that application/tnauthlist is not a signed entity: it=E2=80=99= s just SEQUENCE OF TNEntry. Okay, so that raises the interesting possibil= ity that these things can be dynamically generated...even dynamically gen= erated on a split-horizon basis (i.e., different lists for different IP a= ddresses, or different times of day). Very interesting business implicati= ons. Are you sure it is okay not to sign the thing? Is it intended to be a sta= tic artifact that is fixed at the time of certificate issuance, or not? I= f it is fixed, then a way to enforce the fixation (without requiring that= it be digitally signed by the CA issuer, like a CRL) is to encode a hash= of the DER-encoded TNAuthorizationList in the certificate in an appropri= ate way. If it is intended not to be static all the time, then DER should definite= ly not be a requirement, because you may well want to stream these lists = out of some dynamic database or whatever: DER would require much more mem= ory usage to rearrange and count up the octets comprising the list. In th= at case, BER is better. In either case, it could be a signed artifact, such as the way that RFC 5= 280 certificates and CRLs are signed (as an intrinsic part of the data it= em), or as a CMS SignedData PDU. Regards, Sean On 11/15/2017 11:53 PM, Sean Turner wrote: >> On Nov 16, 2017, at 15:44, Martin J. D=C3=BCrst wrote: >> >> Hello Sean, >> >> On 2017/11/16 14:57, Sean Turner wrote: >>> Hi! This is a request for review of the media type registration foun= d in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stir-certificates/. It = is copied below for convenience: >>> Type name: application >>> Subtype name: tnauthlist >>> Required parameters: None. >>> Optional parameters: None. >>> Encoding considerations: Binary. >>> Security considerations: See Section 12 of this specification. >> "this specification" works as long as it's in context. But the registr= ation will be taken out of context, and you have to rewrite it so that it= works even then. >> >> I suggest something like "RFC XXXX", with some instructions to the RFC= editor to replace XXXX with the number of the actual RFC once issued. Do= n't worry about RFC Editor <-> IANA coordination, that will work out, the= y are used to coordinate such stuff. > Roger I can do: > > See Section 12 of [RFCTBD]. > > and then add: > > [RFC editor=E2=80=99s instruction: Please replace RFCTBD with the RFC n= umber when this document is published.] > > spt > >> Regards, Martin. >> >>> Interoperability considerations: >>> The TN Authorization List inside this media type MUST be >>> DER-encoded TNAuthorizationList. >>> Published specification: This specification. >>> Applications that use this media type: >>> Additional information: >>> Magic number(s): None >>> File extension(s): None >>> Macintosh File Type Code(s): None >>> Person & email address to contact for further information: >>> Jon Peterson >>> Intended usage: COMMON >>> Restrictions on usage: none >>> Author: Sean Turner >>> Change controller: The IESG >>> spt >>> _______________________________________________ >>> media-types mailing list >>> media-types@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/media-types >>> . > _______________________________________________ > media-types mailing list > media-types@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/media-types