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Eric and I are announcing a Working Group Last Call for this draft:
draft-ietf-mediactrl-mrb-12.txt
which can be found at
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mediactrl-mrb/

The Working Group Last Call will last two weeks, so please send your commen=
ts before February 21st.

The authors have improved much of the description, and cleaned up a few tec=
hnical issues, so please review carefully.

Please be aware of the IPR disclosures regarding this draft (numbers 897, 8=
98, and 899).  They can be found at=20
https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&document_=
search=3Ddraft-ietf-mediactrl-mrb
Comments regarding the impact of the IPR disclosures on the draft are invit=
ed.

For the XML - Lorenzo has validated the XML schemas using Eclipse and XML S=
py. If you validate against a different validator, it would be helpful if y=
ou let me/Eric know, because this will be a question that we answer in the =
shepherd writeup.

Thanks,

Dale, as WG co-chair

> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct=
ories. This draft is a work item of the Media Server Control Working Group =
of the IETF.
>
>        Title           : Media Resource Brokering
>        Author(s)       : Chris Boulton
>                           Lorenzo Miniero
>                           Gary Munson
>        Filename        : draft-ietf-mediactrl-mrb-12.txt
>        Pages           : 138
>        Date            : 2012-01-09
>
>    The MediaCtrl work group in the IETF has proposed an architecture for
>    controlling media services.  The Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) is
>    used as the signalling protocol which provides many inherent
>    capabilities for message routing.  In addition to such signalling
>    properties, a need exists for intelligent, application level media
>    service selection based on non-static signalling properties.  This is
>    especially true when considered in conjunction with deployment
>    architectures that include 1:M and M:N combinations of Application
>    Servers and Media Servers.  This document introduces a Media Resource
>    Broker (MRB) entity which manages the availability of Media Servers
>    and the media resource demands of Application Servers.  The document
>    includes potential deployment options for an MRB and appropriate
>    interfaces to Application Servers and Media Servers.

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies. This draft is a work item of the Media Server Control Working Group of=
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	Title           : IANA Registry for MEDIACTRL Interactive Voice Response C=
ontrol Package
	Author(s)       : Eric Burger
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mediactrl-6231-iana-00.txt
	Pages           : 7
	Date            : 2012-02-14

   This document creates an IANA registry for the response codes for the
   MEDIACTRL Interactive Voice Response Control Package, RFC6231.


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What's this about?  It turns out that RFC6231 talks about an IANA =
registry for response codes, lays out a table for response codes, and =
even has rules for registering new response codes.  However, we forgot =
to tell IANA to create the registry!

This document instructs IANA to create the registry, does the initial =
population, and reiterates the rules.

The Chairs and AD made an executive decision and skipped a separate =
WGLC.  You can still comment on the document during IETF LC, which will =
happen shortly.

On Feb 14, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote:

>=20
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts =
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> 	Title           : IANA Registry for MEDIACTRL Interactive Voice =
Response Control Package
> 	Author(s)       : Eric Burger
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-mediactrl-6231-iana-00.txt
> 	Pages           : 7
> 	Date            : 2012-02-14
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>   This document creates an IANA registry for the response codes for =
the
>   MEDIACTRL Interactive Voice Response Control Package, RFC6231.
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The IESG has received a request from the Media Server Control WG
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  <draft-ietf-mediactrl-6231-iana-00.txt> as a Proposed Standard

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Abstract


   This document creates an IANA registry for the response codes for the
   MEDIACTRL Interactive Voice Response Control Package, RFC6231.




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This version [of the document writeup form] is dated September 17,
2008.

  (1.a) Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Has the
        Document Shepherd personally reviewed this version of the=20
        document and, in particular, does he or she believe this=20
        version is ready for forwarding to the IESG for publication?=20

The document shepherd is Dale Worley (a co-chair of Mediactrl).

In my opinion, the revision -12 is ready for publication.

  (1.b) Has the document had adequate review both from key WG members=20
        and from key non-WG members? Does the Document Shepherd have=20
        any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that=20
        have been performed? =20

I believe the document has had adequate review.  People in the WG and
representatives of major application server and media server vendors
have contributed to and reviewed this document in meetings, mailing
lists and extra MediaCtrl sessions.  At least one vendor has built an
MRB to this specification.

  (1.c) Does the Document Shepherd have concerns that the document=20
        needs more review from a particular or broader perspective,=20
        e.g., security, operational complexity, someone familiar with=20
        AAA, internationalization or XML?=20

I have no such concerns.  The only plausible concern is that the
protocol seems to be overly complex, in that it allows several
different modes of operation for broadly similar actions.  But the
people involved in the draft are involved in practical deployments,
and I am sure that they have found the various alternatives in the
protocol are necessary in various practical situations.

  (1.d) Does the Document Shepherd have any specific concerns or=20
        issues with this document that the Responsible Area Director
        and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he=20
        or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or=20
        has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any=20
        event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated=20
        that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those=20
        concerns here. Has an IPR disclosure related to this document=20
        been filed? If so, please include a reference to the=20
        disclosure and summarize the WG discussion and conclusion on=20
        this issue.=20

I have no such concerns.

Specifically regarding IPR:

AT&T has filed 3 IPR disclosures regarding the predecessor draft,
draft-boulton-mediactrl-mrb: ID # 897, ID # 898, and ID # 899.  AT&T
is listed as offering RAND licensing terms.

The IPR disclosures were submitted in 2007.  The chairs solicited
feedback from the WG twice, in 2007 and 2008.  There seems to have
been no response to the solilcitation and no further discussion of the
IPR issues on any IETF mailing list, suggesting that no controversy
ensued.  I would expect that any implementors who worried that the IPR
would be burdensome would have spoken up.

Neither of the chairs at the time (Eric Burger and Spencer Dawkins),
nor two of the three authors (Chris Boulton and Lorenzo Miniero) work
for AT&T, so there seems to be no reason to suspect undue influence of
AT&T to promote its commercial interests.  (The third author, Gary
Munson, does work for AT&T.)

The WGLC of 7 Feb 2012 specifically mentioned the IPR disclosures, to
provide a last opportunity for implementors to express any concerns
over the IPR situation.  No objections were raised regarding IPR.

  (1.e) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it=20
        represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with=20
        others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and=20
        agree with it?  =20

A WGLC was given on the -02 version on 15 Dec 2009.  It received no
responses.  A final WGLC on the -12 version was given on 7 Feb 2012.
It received no responses either.

  (1.f) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme=20
        discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in=20
        separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It=20
        should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is=20
        entered into the ID Tracker.)=20

None that I can find any record of.

  (1.g) Has the Document Shepherd personally verified that the=20
        document satisfies all ID nits? (See the Internet-Drafts Checklist=
=20
        and http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/). Boilerplate checks are=20
        not enough; this check needs to be thorough. Has the document=20
        met all formal review criteria it needs to, such as the MIB=20
        Doctor, media type and URI type reviews?=20

"Registration of application/mrb-publish+xml and
application/mrb-consumer+xml" was sent to ietf-types on 19 Jan 2012.
Two responses were received from one person.  The comments were minor
editorial matters which I believe do not require change to the draft.

  (1.h) Has the document split its references into normative and=20
        informative? Are there normative references to documents that=20
        are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear=20
        state? If such normative references exist, what is the=20
        strategy for their completion? Are there normative references=20
        that are downward references, as described in [RFC3967]? If=20
        so, list these downward references to support the Area=20
        Director in the Last Call procedure for them [RFC3967].=20

Yes -- the nits tool (http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/) is happy
with the draft.

  (1.i) Has the Document Shepherd verified that the document IANA=20
        consideration section exists and is consistent with the body=20
        of the document? If the document specifies protocol=20
        extensions, are reservations requested in appropriate IANA=20
        registries? Are the IANA registries clearly identified? If=20
        the document creates a new registry, does it define the=20
        proposed initial contents of the registry and an allocation=20
        procedure for future registrations? Does it suggest a=20
        reasonable name for the new registry? See [RFC5226]. If the=20
        document describes an Expert Review process has Shepherd=20
        conferred with the Responsible Area Director so that the IESG=20
        can appoint the needed Expert during the IESG Evaluation?=20

Yes.

  (1.j) Has the Document Shepherd verified that sections of the=20
        document that are written in a formal language, such as XML=20
        code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc., validate correctly in=20
        an automated checker?=20

Yes.  One author (Lorenzo Miniero) checked the schemas using Eclipse
and XML Spy, and validated the examples using a JAXB-based tool.

  (1.k) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document=20
        Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document=20
        Announcement Write-Up? Recent examples can be found in the
        "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval=20
        announcement contains the following sections:=20

Technical Summary

    The MediaCtrl work group in the IETF has proposed an architecture
    for controlling media services.  The Session Initiation Protocol
    (SIP) is used as the signalling protocol which provides many
    inherent capabilities for message routing.  A need exists for
    intelligent, application level media service selection based on
    non-static signalling properties, especially in deployment
    architectures that include 1:M and M:N combinations of Application
    Servers and Media Servers.  This document introduces a Media
    Resource Broker (MRB) entity which manages the availability of
    Media Servers and the media resource demands of Application
    Servers.  The document includes potential deployment options for an
    MRB and appropriate interfaces to Application Servers and Media
    Servers.

Working Group Summary

    The working group consensus on this document is solid.  Two
    WGLCs were held, one after the initial consensus on the
    document, and one after extensive review and implemention
    experience dictated a number of small improvements to the
    protocol and its description.

Document Quality

    The protocol described in this document has been implemented
    by several major vendors.  The description has also been
    carefully reviewed by someone not involved in its writing or
    implementation.

Personnel

    Dale Worley is the document's shepherd.
    Robert Sparks is the responsible AD.
