From bclaise@cisco.com Fri Feb 1 11:23:30 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CB721E8039; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 11:23:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, DATE_IN_PAST_03_06=0.044, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6ob7dpBZrIX5; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 11:23:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92AEB21E808B; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 11:23:29 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r11JLYpn016045; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 20:21:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.85] (ams-bclaise-8914.cisco.com [10.60.67.85]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r11JL538009677; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 20:21:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <510BDC45.1070209@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 15:16:21 +0000 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "aaa-doctors@ietf.org" , "MIB Doctors (E-mail)" , YANG Doctors , "ops-dir@ietf.org" , IETF DNS Directorate References: <20130131222822.3478.48185.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20130131222822.3478.48185.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20130131222822.3478.48185.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [MIB-DOCTORS] Fwd: [IESG-AGENDA-DIST] Summarized Agenda for the 2013-02-07 IESG Teleconference X-BeenThere: mib-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: MIB Doctors list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 19:23:30 -0000 Dear all, Please find below the agenda of the February 7th IESG telechat. Please send your questions, comments and concerns before Feb 6th COB. Thanks and Regards, Benoit -------- Original Message -------- INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Summarized Agenda for the 2013-02-07 IESG Teleconference This agenda was generated at 2013-01-31 14:27:32 PST Up-to-date web version of this agenda can be found at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/agenda/ 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Items o draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-lbyr-uri-option-17 Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) IPv4 and IPv6 Option for a Location Uniform Resource Identifier (URI) (Proposed Standard) Note: The document shepherd for this document is Alissa Cooper (acooper@cdt.org). Token: Robert Sparks o draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-udp-encaps-09 UDP Encapsulation of SCTP Packets (Proposed Standard) Note: Gorry Fairhurst (gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk) is the document shepherd. Token: Martin Stiemerling o draft-ietf-nea-pt-eap-08 PT-EAP: Posture Transport (PT) Protocol For EAP Tunnel Methods (Proposed Standard) Note: Susan Thomson (sethomso@cisco.com) is the Document Shepherd Token: Stephen Farrell o draft-ietf-oauth-assertions-10 Assertion Framework for OAuth 2.0 (Proposed Standard) Note: Hannes Tschofenig (Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net) is the document shepherd. Token: Stephen Farrell o draft-ietf-avtcore-srtp-encrypted-header-ext-04 Encryption of Header Extensions in the Secure Real-Time Transport Protocol (SRTP) (Proposed Standard) Note: Roni Even (ron.even.tlv@gmail.com) is the Document Shepherd. Token: Robert Sparks o draft-ietf-ccamp-lmp-behavior-negotiation-10 Link Management Protocol Behavior Negotiation and Configuration Modifications (Proposed Standard) Note: Deborah Brungard (db3546@att.com) is the Document Shepherd. Token: Adrian Farrel 2.1.2 Returning Items o draft-ietf-sidr-algorithm-agility-11 Algorithm Agility Procedure for RPKI. (Best Current Practice) Note: Alexey Melnikov (alexey.melnikov@isode.com) is the Document Shepherd. Token: Stewart Bryant 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Items NONE 2.2.2 Returning Items NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Items o draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-notvia-addresses-10 A Framework for IP and MPLS Fast Reroute Using Not-via Addresses (Informational) Note: Alvaro Retana (aretana@cisco.com) is the Document Shepherd. Token: Adrian Farrel o draft-ietf-rtgwg-ordered-fib-09 Framework for Loop-free convergence using oFIB (Informational) Note: Alvaro Retana (aretana@cisco.com) is the Document Shepherd. Token: Adrian Farrel o draft-ietf-roll-p2p-rpl-15 Reactive Discovery of Point-to-Point Routes in Low Power and Lossy Networks (Experimental) Note: The Document Shepherd is JP Vasseur (jvasseur@cisco.com). Token: Adrian Farrel o draft-ietf-roll-p2p-measurement-08 A Mechanism to Measure the Routing Metrics along a Point-to-point Route in a Low Power and Lossy Network (Experimental) Note: The Document Shepherd is JP Vasseur (jvasseur@cisco.com). Token: Adrian Farrel o draft-ietf-eman-requirements-11 Requirements for Energy Management (Informational) Note: Nevil Brownlee (n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz) is the document shepherd. Token: Ronald Bonica 3.1.2 Returning Items NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Items NONE 3.2.2 Returning Items NONE 3.3 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents 3.3.1 New Items o conflict-review-levine-tld-variant-00 IETF conflict review for draft-levine-tld-variant draft-levine-tld-variant-06 Variants in Second-Level Names Registered in Top Level Domains (ISE: Informational) Token: Barry Leiba 3.3.2 Returning Items o conflict-review-hartmann-default-port-for-irc-via-tls-ssl-00 IETF conflict review for draft-hartmann-default-port-for-irc-via-tls-ssl draft-hartmann-default-port-for-irc-via-tls-ssl-08 Default Port for IRC via TLS/SSL (ISE: Informational) Token: Stephen Farrell 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review o Web PKI OPS (wpkops) 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review o Common Authentication Technology Next Generation (kitten) 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval NONE From mike.bencheck@verizon.com Mon Feb 4 15:15:44 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0759521F8B36; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 15:15:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4qPyWrGnRoNC; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 15:15:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from fldsmtpe02.verizon.com (fldsmtpe02.verizon.com [140.108.26.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C5221F8B2E; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 15:15:41 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: false Received: from unknown (HELO fldsmtpi02.verizon.com) ([166.68.71.144]) by fldsmtpe02.verizon.com with ESMTP; 04 Feb 2013 23:15:40 +0000 From: "Bencheck, Michael U" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,602,1355097600"; d="xml'?rels'?docx'72,48,150?png'72,48,150,150?scan'72,48,150,150,72,217,208,150,48"; a="407413007" Received: from fhdp1lumxc7hb05.verizon.com (HELO FHDP1LUMXC7HB05.us.one.verizon.com) ([166.68.59.192]) by fldsmtpi02.verizon.com with ESMTP; 04 Feb 2013 23:15:38 +0000 Received: from FHDP1LUMXC7V43.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.125.38]) by FHDP1LUMXC7HB05.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.59.192]) with mapi; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:15:16 -0500 To: "statements@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:15:12 -0500 Thread-Topic: MEF Liaison to IETF Thread-Index: Ac4DLXvhdiyNaQdPQJmg4Pb0opp9Wg== Message-ID: <3C4966DA52505D4DB66B360647B8A89A15A89AE5B6@FHDP1LUMXC7V43.us.one.verizon.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_004_3C4966DA52505D4DB66B360647B8A89A15A89AE5B6FHDP1LUMXC7V4_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 15:25:35 -0800 Cc: "rgcole01@comcast.net" , "rbonica@juniper.net" , "nan@metroethernetforum.org" , "'Ranganathan, Raghu \(rraghu@ciena.com\)'" , "mib-doctors@ietf.org" Subject: [MIB-DOCTORS] MEF Liaison to IETF X-BeenThere: mib-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: MIB Doctors list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 23:15:44 -0000 --_004_3C4966DA52505D4DB66B360647B8A89A15A89AE5B6FHDP1LUMXC7V4_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_3C4966DA52505D4DB66B360647B8A89A15A89AE5B6FHDP1LUMXC7V4_" --_000_3C4966DA52505D4DB66B360647B8A89A15A89AE5B6FHDP1LUMXC7V4_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please find attached liaison L00172_000 which was approved at our latest ME= F meeting held in San Diego, CA, 1/28-1/31/2013. 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<5111CC10.3060907@innovationslab.net> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 22:20:48 -0500 From: Brian Haberman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Harrie Hazewinkel References: <50F3F35A.6010005@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "MIB Doctors \(E-mail\)" , Stewart Bryant Subject: Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] MIB doctors: need your help. X-BeenThere: mib-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: MIB Doctors list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 03:20:47 -0000 Hi Harrie, Do you have an ETA for this review? Regards, Brian On 1/14/13 7:08 AM, Harrie Hazewinkel wrote: > Hello, > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Benoit Claise wrote: >> - draft-ietf-lisp-mib-08.txt is in IETF LC till Jan 21st, and looking for a MIB doctor (*) >> Harrie, you did a quick scan around June >> Would you be willing to review it? > > I am willing to do this, but I am not sure if I will make a full review before 21st. > Is that a hard deadline? > > > Harrie > hhazewinkel@gmail.com > > > From hhazewinkel@gmail.com Wed Feb 6 00:04:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0E121F88E4 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 00:04:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dXw0gxPv0oJ0 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 00:04:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ea0-f172.google.com (mail-ea0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532BD21F85B2 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 00:04:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ea0-f172.google.com with SMTP id f13so475677eaa.17 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:04:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=HqR1Q+/Zv6tZDN8JeRDg0VhoU6KmiztVu8jElI9yVLI=; b=hu0oQQUl8p8aBrK2NhN8CXBou228PspUnECCyltrGMBObjkGff9PRxUczRZ04CX0vj C869QZRap/PdDcd95BsJ58gaU3zhWUosVMLDAHHbRepGu60k3AA2pod0D5zcOJTGESrD tAg/5923LdtVBh+rsA/TwXym8Js5eOGNRVUj6YeQ3P08GME7q1VYw2tDTcczj7UZexLj 0SPFt3e405PdR1ojkiKDtaPNUNAknyNwP8f3nWKhmApMB2UOmE2gnL8HHCmnOfLjqyML J7boKK4rcWo4eEomNmurub7wRmWg+eSmbGD6Ky7uiRbKbjPcgzpklFVzLv24PwSipUaG AjPQ== X-Received: by 10.14.5.12 with SMTP id 12mr36947071eek.36.1360137857835; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:04:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from iprofslaptop084.iprofs.local ([87.213.99.166]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a1sm10114756eep.2.2013.02.06.00.04.16 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:04:16 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Harrie Hazewinkel In-Reply-To: <5111CC10.3060907@innovationslab.net> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 09:04:14 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <419D6531-B51F-438D-ABA2-2DA962C2F587@gmail.com> References: <50F3F35A.6010005@cisco.com> <5111CC10.3060907@innovationslab.net> To: Brian Haberman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: "MIB Doctors \(E-mail\)" , Stewart Bryant Subject: Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] MIB doctors: need your help. X-BeenThere: mib-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: MIB Doctors list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:04:21 -0000 Hallo, I have been sick a some days, but I plan to have it this week or next = week as I have been also reading a bit about the 'general' parts of the technology the MIB is defined for. Is that OK? Harrie On Feb 6, 2013, at 4:20 AM, Brian Haberman = wrote: > Hi Harrie, > Do you have an ETA for this review? >=20 > Regards, > Brian >=20 > On 1/14/13 7:08 AM, Harrie Hazewinkel wrote: >> Hello, >>=20 >> On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Benoit Claise wrote: >>> - draft-ietf-lisp-mib-08.txt is in IETF LC till Jan 21st, and = looking for a MIB doctor (*) >>> Harrie, you did a quick scan around June >>> Would you be willing to review it? >>=20 >> I am willing to do this, but I am not sure if I will make a full = review before 21st. >> Is that a hard deadline? >>=20 >>=20 >> Harrie >> hhazewinkel@gmail.com >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 Harrie hhazewinkel@gmail.com From brian@innovationslab.net Wed Feb 6 05:28:19 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337B221F8645 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 05:28:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gxSF32gWLT4I for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 05:28:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from uillean.fuaim.com (uillean.fuaim.com [206.197.161.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55A621F85D2 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 05:28:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from clairseach.fuaim.com (clairseach-high.fuaim.com [206.197.161.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by uillean.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E52C88158; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 05:28:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from 1025274.rudm1.ra.johnshopkins.edu (addr16212925014.ippl.jhmi.edu [162.129.250.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by clairseach.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FC813000C; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 05:28:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51125A74.1070805@innovationslab.net> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:28:20 -0500 From: Brian Haberman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Harrie Hazewinkel References: <50F3F35A.6010005@cisco.com> <5111CC10.3060907@innovationslab.net> <419D6531-B51F-438D-ABA2-2DA962C2F587@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <419D6531-B51F-438D-ABA2-2DA962C2F587@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "MIB Doctors \(E-mail\)" , Stewart Bryant Subject: Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] MIB doctors: need your help. X-BeenThere: mib-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: MIB Doctors list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 13:28:19 -0000 Hi Harrie, That is fine. Regards, Brian On 2/6/13 3:04 AM, Harrie Hazewinkel wrote: > Hallo, > > > I have been sick a some days, but I plan to have it this week or next week > as I have been also reading a bit about the 'general' parts of the > technology the MIB is defined for. > > Is that OK? > > Harrie > > On Feb 6, 2013, at 4:20 AM, Brian Haberman wrote: > >> Hi Harrie, >> Do you have an ETA for this review? >> >> Regards, >> Brian >> >> On 1/14/13 7:08 AM, Harrie Hazewinkel wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Benoit Claise wrote: >>>> - draft-ietf-lisp-mib-08.txt is in IETF LC till Jan 21st, and looking for a MIB doctor (*) >>>> Harrie, you did a quick scan around June >>>> Would you be willing to review it? >>> >>> I am willing to do this, but I am not sure if I will make a full review before 21st. >>> Is that a hard deadline? >>> >>> >>> Harrie >>> hhazewinkel@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >> > > Harrie > hhazewinkel@gmail.com > > > From robert.g.cole.civ@mail.mil Thu Feb 7 16:27:38 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D0521F84F5; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:27:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aUzavqrdRl60; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from edge-cols.mail.mil (edge-cols.mail.mil [131.64.100.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A5021F84E4; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:27:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from UCOLHP3Q.easf.csd.disa.mil (131.64.100.156) by UCOLHP2W.easf.csd.disa.mil (131.64.100.9) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.309.2; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 00:27:31 +0000 Received: from UCOLHP9K.easf.csd.disa.mil ([169.254.3.53]) by UCOLHP3Q.easf.csd.disa.mil ([131.64.100.156]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.003; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 00:27:30 +0000 From: "Cole, Robert G CIV USARMY CERDEC (US)" To: "Bencheck, Michael U" , "statements@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: MEF Liaison to IETF (UNCLASSIFIED) Thread-Index: Ac4DLXvhdiyNaQdPQJmg4Pb0opp9WgCZWYzQ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 00:27:29 +0000 Message-ID: References: <3C4966DA52505D4DB66B360647B8A89A15A89AE5B6@FHDP1LUMXC7V43.us.one.verizon.com> In-Reply-To: <3C4966DA52505D4DB66B360647B8A89A15A89AE5B6@FHDP1LUMXC7V43.us.one.verizon.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [131.64.62.4] Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0245_01CE0569.29DF7B60" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "rbonica@juniper.net" , "rgcole01@comcast.net" , "'Ranganathan, Raghu \(rraghu@ciena.com\)'" , "nan@metroethernetforum.org" , "mib-doctors@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] MEF Liaison to IETF (UNCLASSIFIED) X-BeenThere: mib-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: MIB Doctors list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 00:27:38 -0000 ------=_NextPart_000_0245_01CE0569.29DF7B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Mike, Thanks for your kind words. I was glad to be of help and would be more than happy to review future MIB docs. Respectfully, Bob (A)Chief, Standards and Architectures Branch US Army RDECOM CERDEC S&TCD ATTN: RDER-STN-AS Bldg 6010, Room 453H Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD 21005 Comm: 443.395.8744 Cell: 443.910.4420 DSN: 648.8744 Fax: 443.395.7408 Email: robert.g.cole@us.army.mil -----Original Message----- From: mib-doctors-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mib-doctors-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bencheck, Michael U Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 6:15 PM To: statements@ietf.org Cc: rgcole01@comcast.net; rbonica@juniper.net; nan@metroethernetforum.org; 'Ranganathan, Raghu (rraghu@ciena.com)'; mib-doctors@ietf.org Subject: [MIB-DOCTORS] MEF Liaison to IETF Please find attached liaison L00172_000 which was approved at our latest MEF meeting held in San Diego, CA, 1/28-1/31/2013. 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list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:25:54 -0000 Hi David, After discussion with the other editors, I just submitted an updated rfc. I have listed changes from your comments inline below. >>>>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:39:39 -0500, David Harrington said: DH> This review is officially done for the OPS AD, and the AD needs DH> to decide which points must be addressed. DH> Most of the comments should be non-controversial and easy to DH> address. DH> There are a couple syntax questions. DH> Most technical questions are about ensuring clear and DH> unambiguous descriptions to ensure interoperability. DH> Is LAST-UPDATED "201110140000Z" still correct? updated DH> We've crossed a year boundary, so the 2012 copyright might need DH> updating. updated DH> RpkiRtrConnectionType/other: s/non/none fixed DH> rpkiRtrCacheServerConnectionType: to prevent any ambiguity, I DH> think it might be better to describe this only as the connection DH> type, and remove the "or transport security suite" from the DH> object description. The fact that the connection type might be a DH> transport security suite can be spelled out in the connection DH> type T-C. Even there, I would be careful of ambiguity, to DH> provide clear guidance/constraints to future developers of added DH> enumerations. removed DH> rpkiRtrCacheServerPreference: would a DEFVAL be a good idea to DH> specify the 255 default? Object was changed to having no limits on size (other than inherit max for Unsigned32) and DEFVAL added as max of Unsigned32. DH> rpkiRtrCacheServerTimeToRefresh could benefit from a DH> reference. Is the time to refresh always decremented by 1, or DH> can an implementation choose to only reflect time to refresh in, DH> say, 5 or 10 second increments? Is there a maximum negative DH> value that makes sense here? Is it possible to require a wrap if DH> no refresh is completed? Or should the value latch at the DH> maximum negative value? reference added, left at 1 second units (for simplicity), description has it latch at the max negative value. DH> rpkiRtrCacheServerId would benefit from a reference. meant to, but not added DH> rpkiRtrCacheServerId value is used as a relation between DH> tables. What are the fate-sharing requirements? Must a DH> corresponding rpkiRtrPrefixOriginCacheServerId exist? Or if DH> rpkiRtrPrefixOriginCacheServerId exists, must a corresponding DH> rpkiRtrCacheServerId exist? If one entry is deleted, must the DH> corresponding entry be deleted to prevent one table from reusing DH> an identifier that is still in use in the other table? added some description of fate in to the rpkiRtrPrefixOriginTableEntry DESCRIPTION "An entry in the rpkiRtrPrefixOriginTable. This represents one announced prefix. If a Cache Server is removed from the local configuration, any table rows associated with that server (indicated by rpkiRtrPrefixOriginCacheServerId) are also removed from this table." DH> s/debuging/debugging/ fixed DH> The Errors table contains counters that represent "the number of DH> XXX errors received." This description seems to indicate that DH> counters start at zero (and implicitly reset to zero on a DH> discontinuity). An NMS developer certainly might interpret this DH> text as indicating zero-based counters. I think if there is an DH> assumption these are zero-based, there are TC-s that could be DH> used to show that assumption. OTOH, counters typically are not DH> zero-based because if errors occur during system startup, the DH> counter might be initialized partway through the startup and not DH> reflect all the errors that occurred during the startup phase. I DH> think this table would benefit from a discussion of the expected DH> initial values (zero or unpredictable/implementation-dependent) DH> and the nature of expected discontinuities, so NMS developers DH> can be sure to understand the relevant assumptions. (is the DH> only discontinuity a restart of the management system? What DH> about rollovers? Are all these error counters not preserved DH> across system restarts? Or can an implementation choose to DH> preserve them across resets to enhance debugging history?) Some DH> of this discussion would seem to apply to all the error DH> counters; if that is true of all current counters and should be DH> true for an potentially new counters added to this table, this DH> type of discussion could be captured in the Table or TableEntry DH> description. (including the discussion of DH> rpkiRtrDiscontinuityTimer, which seems to apply to the whole DH> table). I meant to add clarifying text to the discontinuity time (e.g. a manager can only compare values pulled since the discontinuity time...). But double checking now, I didn't get this change into the current draft. DH> The comment discussing ROATable probably isn't needed in the DH> final document, since no official REVISION included ROATable, DH> right? removed DH> s/recieved/received/ fixed DH> rpkiRtrPrefixOriginAddressType: "Only IPv4 and IPv6 are DH> supported." - This is an enumeration that could be extended in DH> the future if RPKI ever supports additional address types (like DH> ipv7 or something); the limitation of ipv4/ipv6 is presumably a DH> limit set by RPKI; it should not be a limit set by the MIB DH> object, which could not be updated to match an updated DH> RPKI. Each of these objects should reference the current limit DH> in RPKI, and allow for future SMIv2 extensibility of the DH> enumeration so extending it would not involve obsoleting each DH> object and defining a new object without limits. By indicating DH> that the enumeration could legally be extended at some point in DH> the future, NMS developers can plan accordingly; the current DH> approach could inadvertently encourage hard-coding support for DH> these, and only these, two enumeration values. DH> Would putting the limit in a compliance clause rather than the DH> object description clause work? I think so, we removed the limits and changed the compliance description to only require support for ipv4, ipv6, and dns. DH> rpkiRtrPrefixOriginAddress says "The format of the address is DH> defined by the DH> value of the corresponding instance of DH> rpkiRtrCacheServerAddressType." DH> Shouldn't this be rpkiRtrPrefixOriginAddressType? yes, fixed DH> rpkiRtrCacheServerConnectionStateChange says: DH> " The SNMP agent MUST throttle the generation of DH> consecutive DH> rpkiRtrCacheServerConnectionStateChange DH> notifications such that there is at least a DH> 5 second gap between them." DH> A MIB is theoretically separate from the protocol used to carry DH> the information. What happens if the notification is being DH> reported by something other than SNMP? Is throttling still DH> required? changed to 'management agent'. DH> I am a bit concerned by the text that describes throttling DH> generation; should generation be throttled, or should sending be DH> throttled? The need to recognize a status change event and DH> request a notification be sent (i.e., generation) might be DH> handled by the underlying instrumentation, while sending the DH> notification would seem to be the purview of the protocol being DH> used (i.e., the SNMP engine). If I have a down event followed by DH> an up event 2 seconds later, should I not generate a DH> notification reporting the state change? What if I have no DH> subsequent up event to report? Should the NMS continue to DH> believe the state is down? Or should I just queue the up DH> notification for 3 seconds and then send it? DH> (and I realize queuing could just push the excessive generation DH> problem down the road, AND lead to untimely reports). The DH> current text is unclear about this and I am concerned whether DH> there might be interoperability problems caused by differing DH> interpretations of how to throttle these notifications. I know DH> we require a discussion of throttling; is this the best way to DH> document the throttling for these notifications? Added to the description clause: If more than one notification has occurred locally during that time, the most recent notification is sent at the end of the 5 second gap and the others are discarded." DH> In rpkiRtrReadOnlyCompliance, s/Implemntation/Implementation/ fixed -Mike -- Michael Baer Senior Research Scientist SPARTA National Security Sector michael.baer@sparta.com C:530.902.3131 From Michael.Baer@sparta.com Thu Feb 7 13:35:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B598C21F86D8 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:35:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zr4WpCaRwiBD for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:35:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from Uther.sparta.com (uther.sparta.com [157.185.0.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31AB721F88F1 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:35:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from durin.laguna.sparta.com ([10.62.216.7]) by Uther.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r17LZ7n0021405; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:35:08 -0800 Received: from tanis.huntsville.ads.sparta.com ([157.185.63.118]) by durin.laguna.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r17LZ6E3001964; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:35:06 -0800 Received: from localhost (157.185.61.22) by tanis.huntsville.ads.sparta.com (157.185.63.118) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.247.3; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 15:35:05 -0600 From: Michael Baer To: Benoit Claise Organization: SPARTA NSS References: <00f101cdf336$889656f0$99c304d0$@comcast.net> <50FDC44E.5050100@cisco.com> X-Face: Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:34:59 -0800 In-Reply-To: <50FDC44E.5050100@cisco.com> (Benoit Claise's message of "Mon, 21 Jan 2013 23:42:22 +0100") Message-ID: <87vca3kdto.fsf@rebma.mikesoffice.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 01:15:49 -0800 Cc: michael.baer@sparta.com, MIB Doctors , draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-protocol-mib@tools.ietf.org, randy@psg.com, keyupate@cisco.com, adrian@olddog.co.uk, stbryant@cisco.com Subject: Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] MIB Doctor review of draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-protocol-mib-04 X-BeenThere: mib-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: MIB Doctors list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 22:02:54 -0000 Hi Benoit, A update to the draft was sent in earlier, I have comments on the changes made inline below. >>>>> On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 23:42:22 +0100, Benoit Claise said: BC> Hi, On top of David's feedback, here is mine. BC> - http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-26 is now BC> RFC 6810 changed BC> Copyright (c) 2011 IETF Trust and the BC> persons identified as authors of the code. All rights reserved. -> 2013 changed BC> rpkiRtrCacheServerPreference OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX Unsigned32 BC> (0..255) MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION "The BC> routers' preference for this RPKI cache server. BC> A lower value means more preferred. If two BC> entries have the same preference, then the order is arbitrary. BC> If no order is specified in the configuration then this value is BC> set to 255." BC> I don't understand the sentence: BC> If no order is specified in the BC> configuration then this value is set to 255." BC> Configuration of what? This is misleading as this is a non BC> read-write (monitoring) MIB module. Do you mean a config knob BC> in RFC 6810? Please specify. It's a 6810 knob, section 8. This object was changed to not have the 255 limit, a reference and more descriptive text were added: In two cases the maximum value for an Unsigned32 object should be returned for this object: - If no order is specified in the RPKI Router configuration. - If a preference value is configured that is larger than the max value for an Unsigned32 object." BC> - rpkiRtrCacheServerTimeToRefresh OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX Integer32 BC> UNITS "seconds" MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION BC> "The number of seconds remaining before a new refresh is BC> performed via a Serial Query to this cache server over this BC> connection. BC> A negative value means that the refresh time BC> has passed this many seconds and the refresh has not yet been BC> completed. BC> Upon a completed refresh (i.e. a successful BC> and complete response to a Serial Query) the value of this BC> attribute will be re-initialized with the value of the BC> corresponding rpkiRtrCacheServerRefreshTimer attribute." BC> A reference to RFC 6810 section 5.3 would be useful (as flagged BC> by David) a reference was added BC> - Clarifying question: rpkiRtrPrefixOriginTableEntry OBJECT-TYPE BC> SYNTAX RpkiRtrPrefixOriginTableEntry MAX-ACCESS not-accessible BC> STATUS current DESCRIPTION "An entry in the BC> rpkiRtrPrefixOriginTable. This represents one announced BC> prefix." INDEX { rpkiRtrPrefixOriginAddressType, BC> rpkiRtrPrefixOriginAddress, rpkiRtrPrefixOriginMinLength } ::= { BC> rpkiRtrPrefixOriginTable 1 } BC> This table gives the link to the unique ID of the connection BC> with BC> rpkiRtrPrefixOriginCacheServerId OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX BC> Unsigned32 (1..4294967295) MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current BC> DESCRIPTION "The unique ID of the connection to the cache server BC> from which this announcement was received. That connection is BC> identified/found by a matching value in attribute BC> rpkiRtrCacheServerId." ::= { rpkiRtrPrefixOriginTableEntry 6 } BC> Am I assuming correctly that we can only receive a (addressType, BC> address, minLength) from one and only one connection? No, so that table was changed to use all the columns as and INDEX. The set of values are not unique unless all the columns are used. -Mike -- Michael Baer Senior Research Scientist SPARTA National Security Sector michael.baer@sparta.com C:530.902.3131 From bclaise@cisco.com Mon Feb 11 08:11:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD12121F8AC3 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:11:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.558 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.558 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.041, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sAJ4iHRKkdGM for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:11:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8FE221F8ADB for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:10:26 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1BG7iQe001332; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:07:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1BG5roC011725; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:06:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <511916E1.3090502@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:05:53 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Baer References: <00f101cdf336$889656f0$99c304d0$@comcast.net> <50FDC44E.5050100@cisco.com> <87vca3kdto.fsf@rebma.mikesoffice.com> In-Reply-To: <87vca3kdto.fsf@rebma.mikesoffice.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: MIB Doctors , draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-protocol-mib@tools.ietf.org, randy@psg.com, keyupate@cisco.com, adrian@olddog.co.uk, stbryant@cisco.com Subject: Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] MIB Doctor review of draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-protocol-mib-04 X-BeenThere: mib-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: MIB Doctors list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:11:26 -0000 Hi Michael, Thanks for addressing my points. See my following email discussing David's concerns. Regards, Benoit > Hi Benoit, > > A update to the draft was sent in earlier, I have comments on the > changes made inline below. > >>>>>> On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 23:42:22 +0100, Benoit Claise said: > BC> Hi, On top of David's feedback, here is mine. > > > BC> - http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-26 is now > BC> RFC 6810 > > changed > > BC> Copyright (c) 2011 IETF Trust and the > BC> persons identified as authors of the code. All rights reserved. > -> 2013 > > changed > > BC> rpkiRtrCacheServerPreference OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX Unsigned32 > BC> (0..255) MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION "The > BC> routers' preference for this RPKI cache server. > > BC> A lower value means more preferred. If two > BC> entries have the same preference, then the order is arbitrary. > BC> If no order is specified in the configuration then this value is > BC> set to 255." > > BC> I don't understand the sentence: > > BC> If no order is specified in the > BC> configuration then this value is set to 255." > > BC> Configuration of what? This is misleading as this is a non > BC> read-write (monitoring) MIB module. Do you mean a config knob > BC> in RFC 6810? Please specify. > > It's a 6810 knob, section 8. This object was changed to not have the > 255 limit, a reference and more descriptive text were added: > > In two cases the maximum value for an Unsigned32 > object should be returned for this object: > - If no order is specified in the RPKI Router > configuration. > - If a preference value is configured that is larger > than the max value for an Unsigned32 object." > > BC> - rpkiRtrCacheServerTimeToRefresh OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX Integer32 > BC> UNITS "seconds" MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION > BC> "The number of seconds remaining before a new refresh is > BC> performed via a Serial Query to this cache server over this > BC> connection. > BC> A negative value means that the refresh time > BC> has passed this many seconds and the refresh has not yet been > BC> completed. > BC> Upon a completed refresh (i.e. a successful > BC> and complete response to a Serial Query) the value of this > BC> attribute will be re-initialized with the value of the > BC> corresponding rpkiRtrCacheServerRefreshTimer attribute." > > BC> A reference to RFC 6810 section 5.3 would be useful (as flagged > BC> by David) > > a reference was added > > BC> - Clarifying question: rpkiRtrPrefixOriginTableEntry OBJECT-TYPE > BC> SYNTAX RpkiRtrPrefixOriginTableEntry MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > BC> STATUS current DESCRIPTION "An entry in the > BC> rpkiRtrPrefixOriginTable. This represents one announced > BC> prefix." INDEX { rpkiRtrPrefixOriginAddressType, > BC> rpkiRtrPrefixOriginAddress, rpkiRtrPrefixOriginMinLength } ::= { > BC> rpkiRtrPrefixOriginTable 1 } > > BC> This table gives the link to the unique ID of the connection > BC> with > > BC> rpkiRtrPrefixOriginCacheServerId OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX > BC> Unsigned32 (1..4294967295) MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current > BC> DESCRIPTION "The unique ID of the connection to the cache server > BC> from which this announcement was received. That connection is > BC> identified/found by a matching value in attribute > BC> rpkiRtrCacheServerId." ::= { rpkiRtrPrefixOriginTableEntry 6 } > > BC> Am I assuming correctly that we can only receive a (addressType, > BC> address, minLength) from one and only one connection? > > No, so that table was changed to use all the columns as and INDEX. The > set of values are not unique unless all the columns are used. > > -Mike > From bclaise@cisco.com Mon Feb 11 08:11:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB2C21F8AD6 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:11:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.559 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.559 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.040, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AuvIeYJejNSl for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:11:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8288821F8AC3 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:11:44 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1BGBSFV001624; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:11:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1BG9gnC014783; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:09:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <511917C6.90801@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:09:42 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Baer References: <00f101cdf336$889656f0$99c304d0$@comcast.net> <87zjzfke9d.fsf@rebma.mikesoffice.com> In-Reply-To: <87zjzfke9d.fsf@rebma.mikesoffice.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: MIB Doctors , randy@psg.com, keyupate@cisco.com, adrian@olddog.co.uk, stbryant@cisco.com Subject: Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] MIB Doctor review of draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-protocol-mib-04 X-BeenThere: mib-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: MIB Doctors list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:11:45 -0000 Hi Michael, Thanks for addressing the MIB doctor points. > > DH> The Errors table contains counters that represent "the number of > DH> XXX errors received." This description seems to indicate that > DH> counters start at zero (and implicitly reset to zero on a > DH> discontinuity). An NMS developer certainly might interpret this > DH> text as indicating zero-based counters. I think if there is an > DH> assumption these are zero-based, there are TC-s that could be > DH> used to show that assumption. OTOH, counters typically are not > DH> zero-based because if errors occur during system startup, the > DH> counter might be initialized partway through the startup and not > DH> reflect all the errors that occurred during the startup phase. I > DH> think this table would benefit from a discussion of the expected > DH> initial values (zero or unpredictable/implementation-dependent) > DH> and the nature of expected discontinuities, so NMS developers > DH> can be sure to understand the relevant assumptions. (is the > DH> only discontinuity a restart of the management system? What > DH> about rollovers? Are all these error counters not preserved > DH> across system restarts? Or can an implementation choose to > DH> preserve them across resets to enhance debugging history?) Some > DH> of this discussion would seem to apply to all the error > DH> counters; if that is true of all current counters and should be > DH> true for an potentially new counters added to this table, this > DH> type of discussion could be captured in the Table or TableEntry > DH> description. (including the discussion of > DH> rpkiRtrDiscontinuityTimer, which seems to apply to the whole > DH> table). > > I meant to add clarifying text to the discontinuity time (e.g. a manager > can only compare values pulled since the discontinuity time...). But > double checking now, I didn't get this change into the current draft. BC> The document would really benefit from this clarification. BC> Please post a new version with this improvement, and I'll clear my DISCUSS. > > DH> rpkiRtrCacheServerId would benefit from a reference. > > meant to, but not added BC> It would nice to add it, along with above improvement. Regards, Benoit From Michael.Baer@sparta.com Mon Feb 11 09:40:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A5721F8971 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:40:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.116, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tx8RdErL07QD for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:40:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from Uther.sparta.com (uther.sparta.com [157.185.0.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6328921F865B for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:40:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from durin.laguna.sparta.com ([10.62.216.7]) by Uther.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1BHeP58021793; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:40:25 -0800 Received: from tanis.huntsville.ads.sparta.com ([157.185.63.118]) by durin.laguna.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1BHeNCD005114; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:40:24 -0800 Received: from localhost (157.185.61.22) by tanis.huntsville.ads.sparta.com (157.185.63.118) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.247.3; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:40:23 -0600 From: Michael Baer To: Benoit Claise Organization: SPARTA NSS References: <00f101cdf336$889656f0$99c304d0$@comcast.net> <87zjzfke9d.fsf@rebma.mikesoffice.com> <511917C6.90801@cisco.com> X-Face: Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:40:19 -0800 In-Reply-To: <511917C6.90801@cisco.com> (Benoit Claise's message of "Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:09:42 +0100") Message-ID: <87d2w6hhq4.fsf@rebma.mikesoffice.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: Michael Baer , MIB Doctors , randy@psg.com, keyupate@cisco.com, adrian@olddog.co.uk, stbryant@cisco.com Subject: Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] MIB Doctor review of draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-protocol-mib-04 X-BeenThere: mib-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: MIB Doctors list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:40:36 -0000 Hi Benoit, A updated 06 version of the draft was just submitted. I have inline comments below. >>>>> On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:09:42 +0100, Benoit Claise said: BC> Hi Michael, Thanks for addressing the MIB doctor points. >> DH> The Errors table contains counters that represent "the number of DH> XXX errors received." This description seems to indicate that DH> counters start at zero (and implicitly reset to zero on a DH> discontinuity). An NMS developer certainly might interpret this DH> text as indicating zero-based counters. I think if there is an DH> assumption these are zero-based, there are TC-s that could be DH> used to show that assumption. OTOH, counters typically are not DH> zero-based because if errors occur during system startup, the DH> counter might be initialized partway through the startup and not DH> reflect all the errors that occurred during the startup phase. I DH> think this table would benefit from a discussion of the expected DH> initial values (zero or unpredictable/implementation-dependent) DH> and the nature of expected discontinuities, so NMS developers DH> can be sure to understand the relevant assumptions. (is the DH> only discontinuity a restart of the management system? What DH> about rollovers? Are all these error counters not preserved DH> across system restarts? Or can an implementation choose to DH> preserve them across resets to enhance debugging history?) Some DH> of this discussion would seem to apply to all the error DH> counters; if that is true of all current counters and should be DH> true for an potentially new counters added to this table, this DH> type of discussion could be captured in the Table or TableEntry DH> description. (including the discussion of DH> rpkiRtrDiscontinuityTimer, which seems to apply to the whole DH> table). >> >> I meant to add clarifying text to the discontinuity time (e.g. a >> manager can only compare values pulled since the discontinuity >> time...). But double checking now, I didn't get this change into >> the current draft. BC> The document would really benefit from this clarification. BC> Please post a new version with this improvement, and I'll clear BC> my DISCUSS. I added text to the rpkiRtrDiscontinuityTimer object: For objects that use rpkiRtrDiscontinuityTimer to indicate discontinuity, only values received since the time indicated by rpkiRtrDiscontinuityTimer are comparable to each other. A manager should take the possibility of rollover into account when calculating difference values. DH> rpkiRtrCacheServerId would benefit from a reference. >> meant to, but not added BC> It would nice to add it, along with above improvement. I did add a reference clause to this object (as well as fixing a spelling nit mentioned by Brian Carpenter). Thanks, Mike -- Michael Baer Senior Research Scientist SPARTA National Security Sector michael.baer@sparta.com C:530.902.3131 From bclaise@cisco.com Mon Feb 11 10:39:44 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A79221F8849 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:39:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.562 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.562 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.037, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A2oQJkhCCTJh for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:39:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF6A21F87DF for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:38:55 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1BIXQGI014419; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:33:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1BIVwmQ014366; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:32:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5119391E.3010308@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:31:58 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Baer References: <00f101cdf336$889656f0$99c304d0$@comcast.net> <87zjzfke9d.fsf@rebma.mikesoffice.com> <511917C6.90801@cisco.com> <87d2w6hhq4.fsf@rebma.mikesoffice.com> In-Reply-To: <87d2w6hhq4.fsf@rebma.mikesoffice.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: MIB Doctors , randy@psg.com, keyupate@cisco.com, adrian@olddog.co.uk, stbryant@cisco.com Subject: Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] MIB Doctor review of draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-protocol-mib-04 X-BeenThere: mib-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: MIB Doctors list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:39:44 -0000 Thanks. I just cleared my DISCUSS. Regards, Benoit > Hi Benoit, > > A updated 06 version of the draft was just submitted. I have inline > comments below. > >>>>>> On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:09:42 +0100, Benoit Claise said: > BC> Hi Michael, Thanks for addressing the MIB doctor points. > > >> > DH> The Errors table contains counters that represent "the number of > DH> XXX errors received." This description seems to indicate that > DH> counters start at zero (and implicitly reset to zero on a > DH> discontinuity). An NMS developer certainly might interpret this > DH> text as indicating zero-based counters. I think if there is an > DH> assumption these are zero-based, there are TC-s that could be > DH> used to show that assumption. OTOH, counters typically are not > DH> zero-based because if errors occur during system startup, the > DH> counter might be initialized partway through the startup and not > DH> reflect all the errors that occurred during the startup phase. I > DH> think this table would benefit from a discussion of the expected > DH> initial values (zero or unpredictable/implementation-dependent) > DH> and the nature of expected discontinuities, so NMS developers > DH> can be sure to understand the relevant assumptions. (is the > DH> only discontinuity a restart of the management system? What > DH> about rollovers? Are all these error counters not preserved > DH> across system restarts? Or can an implementation choose to > DH> preserve them across resets to enhance debugging history?) Some > DH> of this discussion would seem to apply to all the error > DH> counters; if that is true of all current counters and should be > DH> true for an potentially new counters added to this table, this > DH> type of discussion could be captured in the Table or TableEntry > DH> description. (including the discussion of > DH> rpkiRtrDiscontinuityTimer, which seems to apply to the whole > DH> table). > >> > >> I meant to add clarifying text to the discontinuity time (e.g. a > >> manager can only compare values pulled since the discontinuity > >> time...). But double checking now, I didn't get this change into > >> the current draft. > BC> The document would really benefit from this clarification. > BC> Please post a new version with this improvement, and I'll clear > BC> my DISCUSS. > > I added text to the rpkiRtrDiscontinuityTimer object: > > For objects that use rpkiRtrDiscontinuityTimer to indicate > discontinuity, only values received since the time indicated by > rpkiRtrDiscontinuityTimer are comparable to each other. A manager > should take the possibility of rollover into account when > calculating difference values. > > DH> rpkiRtrCacheServerId would benefit from a reference. > >> meant to, but not added > BC> It would nice to add it, along with above improvement. > > I did add a reference clause to this object (as well as fixing a > spelling nit mentioned by Brian Carpenter). > > Thanks, > Mike > > From bclaise@cisco.com Mon Feb 18 06:09:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED6821F89AF; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 06:09:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.539 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.539 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3VnH4Y3c-6cQ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 06:09:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1A321F89A6; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 06:09:20 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1IE9JjA022948; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:09:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1IE93tG019557; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:09:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <512235FF.10602@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:09:03 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "aaa-doctors@ietf.org" , "MIB Doctors (E-mail)" , YANG Doctors , "ops-dir@ietf.org" , IETF DNS Directorate References: <20130215001805.25312.54571.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20130215001805.25312.54571.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20130215001805.25312.54571.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [MIB-DOCTORS] Fwd: [IESG-AGENDA-DIST] Summarized Agenda for the 2013-02-21 IESG Teleconference X-BeenThere: mib-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: MIB Doctors list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:09:22 -0000 Dear all, Please find below the agenda of the February 21st IESG telechat. Please send your questions, comments and concerns before Feb 20th COB. Thanks and Regards, Benoit -------- Original Message -------- INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Summarized Agenda for the 2013-02-21 IESG Teleconference This agenda was generated at 2013-02-14 16:17:05 PST Up-to-date web version of this agenda can be found at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/agenda/ 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Items o draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-eth-oam-iwk-07 - IETF stream MPLS and Ethernet OAM Interworking (Proposed Standard) Note: Matthew Bocci (matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com) is the document shepherd. Token: Stewart Bryant Consensus: Unknown o draft-ietf-6man-nd-extension-headers-03 - IETF stream Security Implications of IPv6 Fragmentation with IPv6 Neighbor Discovery (Proposed Standard) Token: Brian Haberman Consensus: Unknown o draft-ietf-behave-nat64-discovery-heuristic-13 - IETF stream Discovery of the IPv6 Prefix Used for IPv6 Address Synthesis (Proposed Standard) Note: Document Shepherd: Dave Thaler (dthaler@microsoft.com) Token: Wesley Eddy Consensus: Unknown o draft-ietf-eman-rfc4133bis-06 - IETF stream Entity MIB (Version 4) (Proposed Standard) Note: The document shepherd is Nevil Brownlee (n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz). Token: Benoit Claise Consensus: Unknown o draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-summary-stat-08 - IETF stream RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) Extended Report (XR) Blocks for Summary Statistics Metrics Reporting (Proposed Standard) Note: Dan Romascanu (dromasca@avaya.com) is the Document Shepherd. Token: Gonzalo Camarillo Consensus: Unknown 2.1.2 Returning Items o draft-ietf-p2psip-base-24 - IETF stream REsource LOcation And Discovery (RELOAD) Base Protocol (Proposed Standard) Note: David Bryan (dbryan@ethernot.org) is the document shepherd. Token: Gonzalo Camarillo Consensus: Unknown Last call expires: 2013-02-19 o draft-ietf-radext-radius-extensions-11 - IETF stream Remote Authentication Dial In User Service (RADIUS) Protocol Extensions (Proposed Standard) Note: Jouni Korhonen (jouni.nospam@gmail.com) is the document shepherd. Token: Benoit Claise Consensus: Unknown 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Items o draft-gp-obsolete-icmp-types-iana-01 - IETF stream Formally Deprecating Some ICMPv4 Message Types (Proposed Standard) Note: Joel Halpern (jmh@joelhalpern.com) is the Docment Shepherd Token: Ronald Bonica Consensus: Unknown 2.2.2 Returning Items NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Items o draft-ietf-paws-problem-stmt-usecases-rqmts-13 - IETF stream Protocol to Access White Space (PAWS) Database: Use Cases and Requirements (Informational) Note: Document Shepherd is Gabor Bajko (Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com). Token: Pete Resnick Consensus: Unknown Last call expires: 2013-02-15 o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-security-framework-08 - IETF stream MPLS-TP Security Framework (Informational) Note: Loa Andersson (loa@pi.nu) is the document shepherd. Token: Adrian Farrel Consensus: Unknown o draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-dpa-etal-00 - IETF stream Deprecation of BGP Path Attributes DPA, ADVERTISER and RCID_PATH / CLUSTER_ID (Informational) Token: Stewart Bryant Consensus: Unknown o draft-ietf-simple-simple-08 - IETF stream SIMPLE made Simple: An Overview of the IETF Specifications for Instant Messaging and Presence using the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) (Informational) Note: The document shepherd for this document is Ben Campbell (ben@nostrum.com). Token: Robert Sparks Consensus: Yes 3.1.2 Returning Items o draft-ietf-ancp-pon-04 - IETF stream Applicability of Access Node Control Mechanism to PON based Broadband Networks (Informational) Note: Matthew Bocci (matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com) is the document shepherd. Token: Ralph Droms Consensus: Unknown Last call expires: 2013-02-19 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Items o draft-templin-intarea-seal-51 - IETF stream The Subnetwork Encapsulation and Adaptation Layer (SEAL) (Informational) Note: Joe Touch (touch@isi.edu) is the document shepherd. Token: Ralph Droms Consensus: Unknown Last call expires: 2013-02-20 o draft-templin-ironbis-12 - IETF stream The Intradomain Routing Overlay Network (IRON) (Informational) Token: Ralph Droms Consensus: Unknown Last call expires: 2013-02-18 o draft-leiba-urnbis-ietf-namespace-02 - IETF stream Registration of Second-Level URN Namespaces Under "ietf" (Informational) Note: Barry Leiba (barryleiba@computer.org) is serving as the document shepherd as well as author. Token: Pete Resnick Consensus: Unknown o draft-shafranovich-mime-sql-04 - IETF stream The application/sql Media Type (Informational) Token: Barry Leiba Consensus: Unknown Last call expires: 2013-02-20 3.2.2 Returning Items NONE 3.3 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents 3.3.1 New Items NONE 3.3.2 Returning Items NONE 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o Web PKI OPS (wpkops) 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval o Common Authentication Technology Next Generation (kitten) From bclaise@cisco.com Thu Feb 21 06:00:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D440121F878F for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 06:00:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.246 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.246 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.248, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_57=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0LNU12GUEono for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 06:00:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8315521F8860 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 06:00:41 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1LE0YN1019504; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:00:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1LDxcDV012128; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:59:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5126284A.7060600@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:59:38 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: draft-ietf-lisp-mib@tools.ietf.org, lisp-chairs@ietf.org, "MIB Doctors (E-mail)" References: <99F39326-4237-4843-8607-52F341C02073@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <99F39326-4237-4843-8607-52F341C02073@gmail.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <99F39326-4237-4843-8607-52F341C02073@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070302050902090604070405" Cc: 'Brian Haberman' Subject: [MIB-DOCTORS] draft-ietf-lisp-mib MIB doctor review X-BeenThere: mib-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: MIB Doctors list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:00:44 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070302050902090604070405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear draft-ietf-lisp-mib authors, Here is the MIB doctor review, done by Harrie Hazewinkel Regards, Benoit -------- Original Message -------- Hereby my review of the LISP MIB. I could not find a full list to whom this all should have been addressed. I hope you could forward it. In general I beleive the MIB is quit OK, but I have two concerns: 1) a combination of a length value and a ListAddressType is there and they are also used as part of an INDEX. 2) The MIB is completely read-only while I believe this would not be neccessary and at various places a read-write would be appropriate. Then with conformance statements a read-only version should be made. Below are the more detailed concerns I found by section (the 'indented text is quoted from the draft). 2 . Introduction > Finally, while not specifically required, this document assumes the > existence of a database to store and propagate those mappings globally. If it assumes the existance of a database, what does this MIB module do with that? 4 . Definition of Terms Are these not in other documents of LISP described? I wonder if it would not be better just to reference those. 5 . LISP MIB Objectives > The objectives for defining this LISP MIB module are as follows: > > o Provide a means for obtaining a list of enabled LISP features and > the current status of configuration attributes related to those > features. I noticed that here the word 'enabled' is used. Does that mean ONLY those features that currently work on the managed device, could be used on the managed device, or a list of all features avaialble in LISP? Even more if I read section 6.2 the first described table. See below where 'representing the various features' is used. 6.2 . Overview of Defined Tables > lispMapCache - This table represents the short-lived, on-demand > table on an ITR that stores, tracks, and is responsible for > timing-out and otherwise validating EID-to-RLOC mappings. I do not understand the last sentence, but wonder if that is because 'otherwise' makes no sense. 7 . LISP MIB Definitions TODO: use libsmi for machine-readable testing/verification. > lispMIB MODULE-IDENTITY > [snip] > DESCRIPTION > "Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP) MIB Textual > Conventions module. The LISP MIB is intended for > management of LISP routers. I would argue that this is not a Textual Conventions Module and would suggest to use 'Managed Object module'. > LispAddressType ::= TEXTUAL-CONVENTION I understand the definition of the four-tuple, but do wonder is one should merge the values as such. Why not using three different managed objects? Then for the illustration of the use of such an object I do not see the link with the lispMapCacheEidLength and the lispMapCacheEid.Also because you already have defined a length 'part' in the four-tuple. > lispMapCacheEidLength = 8 > lispMapCacheEid = 1, 4, 192.0.2.0, 24 > ... [skip] ... > Note that the lispMapCacheEidLength > value of 8 is used to compute the length of the fourth > (last) field in lispMapCacheEid to be 1 octet - as > computed by 8 - (2 + 1 + 4) = 1. Why is the length 8? I would say 7. Beyond that I believe it is a bad idea to have a lispAddressType that combines already some data, but still must use an extra object for some length of a part of the listpAddressType. > lispFeaturesTable OBJECT-TYPE I wonder if there will be never new features defined for LISP and how one foresees this new feeature to include in this table? Is it also the idea that this MIB is ONLY for information retrieval? I could imagine that one would like to turn features on and off or change the map cache size. In the last case, the MAX-ACCESS should be read-write and one should create compliance statements where a read-only version is defined. > lispFeaturesInstanceID OBJECT-TYPE The desciption deinfes a default. This should be in the DEFVAL clause. DEFVAL { 0 } > lispMappingDatabaseTable OBJECT-TYPE Why is this a value between 5 and 259? The type for which this object provides the length can only be between 5 and 39. The value of 529 has also an impact of the index as an index and prefix of the OID -sequence van only be 256 of length. > lispMappingDatabaseTimeStamp OBJECT-TYPE I would suggect a DEFVAL { 0 } to capture the situation in which is described that the information was present during the re-initialization of the local management subsystem. (This occurs more often in the MIB module) > lispMapCacheTable OBJECT-TYPE > lispConfiguredLocatorTable OBJECT-TYPE > lispEidRegistrationTable OBJECT-TYPE > lispUseMapResolverTable OBJECT-TYPE > lispUseProxyEtrTable OBJECT-TYPE I believe the index clause has the same 'length' problems as the listpMappingDtabaseTable. > lispMapCacheLocatorTable OBJECT-TYPE > lispEidRegistrationEtrTable OBJECT-TYPE I believe the index clause has the same 'length' problems as the listpMappingDtabaseTable. Now even 2 times the combination of a 'length' and a 'LispAddressType'. > lispEidRegistrationLocatorTable OBJECT-TYPE And this one 3 times the 'length' and a 'LispAddressType' combination. Also at this place there is a possibility that the OID exceeds the maximum length of an OID. . > lispMapCacheLocatorRlocState OBJECT-TYPE The SYNTAX defines 3 values, the description only defines 2 of them. I suggest to align this. > SYNTAX INTEGER { > up (1), > down (2), > unreachable (3) > } I see various times the above INTEGER syntax. I would suggest to define a TEXTUAL-CONVENTION for this > SYNTAX INTEGER { > siteself (1), > sitelocal (2) > } I see various times the above INTEGER syntax. I would suggest to define a TEXTUAL-CONVENTION for this > lispIidToVrfName OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX MplsL3VpnName MAX-ACCESS read-only > STATUS current DESCRIPTION "The identifier for each VPN that is mapped > to the given LISP Instance ID." ::= { lispIidToVrfEntry 2 } REFERENCE > "RFC 4382, Section 7." The reference clause is placed incorrectly. > lispMapCacheLocatorRlocTimeStamp OBJECT-TYPE > lispMapCacheLocatorRlocLastPriorityChange OBJECT-TYPE > lispMapCacheLocatorRlocLastWeightChange OBJECT-TYPE > lispMapCacheLocatorRlocLastMPriorityChange OBJECT-TYPE > lispMapCacheLocatorRlocLastMWeightChange OBJECT-TYPE > lispMapCacheLocatorRlocLastStateChange OBJECT-TYPE Why is the First item a timestamp and others a time ticks? Does it not make sense to have them algined wit the same type? 8.1 . MIB modules required for IMPORTS This section is not complete. The section refers to 1 imported module, but there are still 4 others as well in the IMPORTS section. 9 . Security Considerations Is is required that this MIB module is ONLY read-only? As mentioned earlier I would sugget a read-write MIB module with a READ-ONLY compliance statement. Is done more often in MIB modules. Appendix A . Open Issues I would suggest that the inclusion (or better the choice for NOT including) would be addres in the overview section or introduction. Harrie hhazewinkel@gmail.com --------------070302050902090604070405 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear draft-ietf-lisp-mib authors,

Here is the MIB doctor review, done by Harrie Hazewinkel

Regards, Benoit


-------- Original Message --------


Hereby my review of the LISP MIB. I could not find a full list to whom this all should have been addressed. 
I hope you could forward it. In general I beleive the MIB is quit OK, but I have two concerns:

1)  a combination of a length value and a ListAddressType is there and they are also used as part of an INDEX.
2) The MIB is completely read-only while I believe this would not be neccessary and at various places a read-write
would be appropriate. Then with conformance statements a read-only version should be made.


Below are the more detailed concerns I found by section (the 'indented text is quoted from the draft).

2.  Introduction
   Finally, while not specifically required, this document
   assumes the existence of a database to store and propagate those
   mappings globally.

If it assumes the existance of a database, what does this MIB module do with that?

4.  Definition of Terms
Are these not in other documents of LISP described? I wonder if it would
not be better just to reference those.

5.  LISP MIB Objectives
   The objectives for defining this LISP MIB module are as follows:

   o  Provide a means for obtaining a list of enabled LISP features and
      the current status of configuration attributes related to those
      features.
I noticed that here the word 'enabled' is used. Does that mean ONLY those features
that currently work on the managed device, could be used on the managed device,
or a list of all features avaialble in LISP? Even more if I read section 6.2 the first
described table. See below where 'representing the various features' is used.
 
6.2.  Overview of Defined Tables
   lispMapCache -  This table represents the short-lived, on-demand
      table on an ITR that stores, tracks, and is responsible for
      timing-out and otherwise validating EID-to-RLOC mappings.
I do not understand the last sentence, but wonder if that is because 'otherwise'
makes no sense.


7.  LISP MIB Definitions
TODO: use libsmi for machine-readable testing/verification.
lispMIB MODULE-IDENTITY
[snip]
   DESCRIPTION
            "Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP) MIB Textual
             Conventions module. The LISP MIB is intended for
             management of LISP routers.
I would argue that this is not a Textual Conventions Module and would suggest to use
'Managed Object module'.

LispAddressType ::= TEXTUAL-CONVENTION
I understand the definition of the four-tuple, but do wonder is one should merge the
values as such. Why not using three different managed objects?

Then for the illustration of the use of such an object I do not see the link with the 
lispMapCacheEidLength and the lispMapCacheEid.Also because you already have
defined a length 'part' in the four-tuple.

             lispMapCacheEidLength  = 8
             lispMapCacheEid = 1, 4, 192.0.2.0, 24
             ... [skip] ...

          Note that the lispMapCacheEidLength
          value of 8 is used to compute the length of the fourth
          (last) field in lispMapCacheEid to be 1 octet - as
          computed by 8 - (2 + 1 + 4) = 1.
Why is the length 8? I would say 7.

Beyond that I believe it is a bad idea to have a lispAddressType that combines already
some data, but still must use an extra object for some length of a part of the
listpAddressType.

   lispFeaturesTable OBJECT-TYPE
I wonder if there will be never new features defined for LISP and how one foresees
this new feeature to include in this table?

Is it also the idea that this MIB is ONLY for information retrieval? I could imagine that
one would like to turn features on and off or change the map cache size.
In the last case, the MAX-ACCESS should be read-write and one should create 
compliance statements where a read-only version is defined.
   lispFeaturesInstanceID OBJECT-TYPE
The desciption deinfes a default. This should be in the DEFVAL clause.

DEFVAL { 0 }

    lispMappingDatabaseTable OBJECT-TYPE

Why is this a value between 5 and 259? The type for which this object provides
the length can only be between 5 and 39.

The value of 529 has also an impact of the index as an index and prefix of the 
OID -sequence van only be 256 of length.

    lispMappingDatabaseTimeStamp OBJECT-TYPE
I would suggect a DEFVAL { 0 } to capture the situation in which is described that the
information was present during the re-initialization of the local management subsystem.
(This occurs more often in the MIB module)

    lispMapCacheTable OBJECT-TYPE
    lispConfiguredLocatorTable OBJECT-TYPE
    lispEidRegistrationTable OBJECT-TYPE
      lispUseMapResolverTable OBJECT-TYPE
      lispUseProxyEtrTable OBJECT-TYPE
I believe the index clause has the same 'length' problems as the
listpMappingDtabaseTable.
    lispMapCacheLocatorTable OBJECT-TYPE
     lispEidRegistrationEtrTable OBJECT-TYPE
I believe the index clause has the same 'length' problems as the
lis!
 tpMappin
gDtabaseTable. Now even 2 times the combination of a
'length' and a 'LispAddressType'.


   lispEidRegistrationLocatorTable OBJECT-TYPE
And this one 3 times the 'length' and a 'LispAddressType' combination.
Also at this place there is a possibility that the OID exceeds the
maximum length of an OID.


.
    lispMapCacheLocatorRlocState OBJECT-TYPE
The SYNTAX defines 3 values, the description only defines 2 of them.
I suggest to align this.
        SYNTAX     INTEGER {
                      up (1),
                      down (2),
                      unreachable (3)
                   }
I see various times the above INTEGER syntax. I would suggest to
define a TEXTUAL-CONVENTION for this




        SYNTAX     INTEGER {
                      siteself (1),
                      sitelocal (2)
                   }
I see various times the above INTEGER syntax. I would suggest to
define a TEXTUAL-CONVENTION for this


      lispIidToVrfName OBJECT-TYPE
          SYNTAX     MplsL3VpnName
          MAX-ACCESS read-only
          STATUS     current
          DESCRIPTION
              "The identifier for each VPN that is mapped to the
              given LISP Instance ID."
              ::= { lispIidToVrfEntry 2 }
          REFERENCE
              "RFC 4382, Section 7."



The reference clause is placed incorrectly.




lispMapCacheLocatorRlocTimeStamp OBJECT-TYPE
lispMapCacheLocatorRlocLastPriorityChange OBJECT-TYPE
lispMapCacheLocatorRlocLastWeightChange OBJECT-TYPE
lispMapCacheLocatorRlocLastMPriorityChange OBJECT-TYPE
lispMapCacheLocatorRlocLastMWeightChange OBJECT-TYPE
lispMapCacheLocatorRlocLastStateChange OBJECT-TYPE
Why is the First item a timestamp and others a time ticks?
Does it not make sense to have them algined wit the same type?




8.1.  MIB modules required for IMPORTS
This section is not complete.
The section refers to 1 imported module, but there are still 4 others as well
in the IMPORTS section.


9.  Security Considerations
Is is required that this MIB module is ONLY read-only? As mentioned earlier
I would sugget a read-write MIB module with a READ-ONLY compliance statement.
Is done more often in MIB modules.


Appendix A.  Open Issues
I would suggest that the inclusion (or better the choice for NOT including)
would be addres in the overview section or introduction.







--------------070302050902090604070405-- From bclaise@cisco.com Fri Feb 22 09:34:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mib-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE19821F8E21; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:34:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.544 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.544 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.055, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L51xbm0LAt4V; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:34:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDFC21F8E17; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:34:48 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1MHYjGZ029156; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:34:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1MHYS10017204; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:34:39 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5127AC23.2070408@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:34:27 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "aaa-doctors@ietf.org" , "MIB Doctors (E-mail)" , YANG Doctors , "ops-dir@ietf.org" , IETF DNS Directorate References: <20130222144423.31635.38700.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20130222144423.31635.38700.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20130222144423.31635.38700.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [MIB-DOCTORS] Fwd: [IESG-AGENDA-DIST] Summarized Agenda for the 2013-02-28 IESG Teleconference X-BeenThere: mib-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: MIB Doctors list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:34:49 -0000 Dear all, Please find below the agenda of the February 28th IESG telechat. Please send your questions, comments and concerns before Feb 27th COB. Thanks and Regards, Benoit -------- Original Message -------- INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Summarized Agenda for the 2013-02-28 IESG Teleconference This agenda was generated at 2013-02-22 06:43:30 PST Up-to-date web version of this agenda can be found at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/agenda/ 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Items o draft-ietf-6man-ipv6-atomic-fragments-03 - IETF stream Processing of IPv6 "atomic" fragments (Proposed Standard) Token: Brian Haberman Consensus: Unknown o draft-ietf-dhc-secure-dhcpv6-07 - IETF stream Secure DHCPv6 Using CGAs (Proposed Standard) Note: Ted Lemon (ted.lemon@nominum.com) is the document shepherd. Token: Ralph Droms Consensus: Unknown Last call expires: 2013-02-25 o draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-client-link-layer-addr-opt-04 - IETF stream Client Link-layer Address Option in DHCPv6 (Proposed Standard) Note: Ted Lemon (Ted.Lemon@nominum.com) is the document shepherd. Token: Ralph Droms IANA Review: IANA Review Needed Consensus: Unknown Last call expires: 2013-02-28 o draft-ietf-geopriv-flow-identity-01 - IETF stream Flow Identity Extension for HELD (Proposed Standard) Note: Alissa Cooper (acooper@cdt.org) is the Document Shepherd. Token: Robert Sparks IANA Review: IANA Review Needed Consensus: Yes Last call expires: 2013-02-27 2.1.2 Returning Items NONE 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Items o draft-eastlake-additional-xmlsec-uris-09 - IETF stream Additional XML Security Uniform Resource Identifiers (URIs) (Proposed Standard) Note: Charlie Kaufman is the document shepherd (charliek@microsoft.com). Token: Sean Turner Consensus: Unknown Last call expires: 2013-02-28 2.2.2 Returning Items NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Items o draft-ietf-tcpm-proportional-rate-reduction-04 - IETF stream Proportional Rate Reduction for TCP (Experimental) Note: Document Shepherd is Pasi Sarolahti . Token: Wesley Eddy Consensus: Unknown Last call expires: 2013-02-26 3.1.2 Returning Items NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Items o draft-harkins-brainpool-ike-groups-04 - IETF stream Brainpool Elliptic Curves for the IKE Group Description Registry (Informational) Note: Johannes Merkle (johannes.merkle@secunet.com) is the document shepherd. Token: Sean Turner Consensus: Unknown Last call expires: 2013-02-28 o draft-cardenas-dff-09 - IETF stream Depth-First Forwarding in Unreliable Networks (DFF) (Experimental) Note: Document Shepherd: Geoff Mulligan (geoff.ietf@mulligan.com) Token: Ralph Droms Consensus: Unknown Last call expires: 2013-02-24 3.2.2 Returning Items NONE 3.3 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents 3.3.1 New Items NONE 3.3.2 Returning Items NONE 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review o Hypertext Transmission Protocol Authentication (httpauth) 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o JSON data formats for vCard and iCalendar (jcardcal) 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review o Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (xmpp) 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval NONE