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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Multiple Interfaces Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Multiple Provisioning Domain Architecture
        Author          : Dmitry Anipko
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mif-mpvd-arch-04.txt
	Pages           : 23
	Date            : 2014-09-12

Abstract:
   This document is a product of the work of the MIF Architecture Design
   team.  It outlines a solution framework for some of the issues
   experienced by nodes that can be attached to multiple networks
   simultaneously.  The framework defines the concept of a Provisioning
   Domain (PvD) which is a a consistent set of network configuration
   information.  PvD aware nodes learn PvD specific information from the
   networks they are attached to and / or other sources.  PvDs are used
   to enable separation and configuration consistency in presence of
   multiple concurrent connections.


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This revision includes changes suggested by Ian Farrer per language review =
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 This draft is a work item of the Multiple Interfaces Working Group of the =
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        Title           : Multiple Provisioning Domain Architecture
        Author          : Dmitry Anipko
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mif-mpvd-arch-04.txt
	Pages           : 23
	Date            : 2014-09-12

Abstract:
   This document is a product of the work of the MIF Architecture Design
   team.  It outlines a solution framework for some of the issues
   experienced by nodes that can be attached to multiple networks
   simultaneously.  The framework defines the concept of a Provisioning
   Domain (PvD) which is a a consistent set of network configuration
   information.  PvD aware nodes learn PvD specific information from the
   networks they are attached to and / or other sources.  PvDs are used
   to enable separation and configuration consistency in presence of
   multiple concurrent connections.


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Hi,

One additional question that arose whilst I was reviewing the document =
is from the end of P1 in section 3.4:

One way this could be accomplished is by using a DHCPv6 ORO containing =
the PvDs that are of interest.
The configuration source can then respond with only the requested =
information.

I think that the language here is incorrect. The ORO is a list of option =
codes and this doesn=92t have any way of including specific PvDs (unless =
each PvD was defined as a DHCP option in its own right, which seems =
unworkable). I guess that the real intension here is to have a new DHCP =
option which carries information about requested/available PvDs, and for =
the client to include the option code for this in the ORO.=20

If so, proposed new text:

One way this could be accomplished is by using a new DHCPv6 option =
containing the PvDs that are of interest.
The configuration source can then respond with only the requested =
information.

Cheers,
Ian


On 13 Sep 2014, at 02:29, Dmitry Anipko <Dmitry.Anipko@microsoft.com> =
wrote:

> This revision includes changes suggested by Ian Farrer per language =
review (thanks Ian!), and list of contributors as provided by the WG =
chairs.
>=20
> Thank you.
>=20
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> This draft is a work item of the Multiple Interfaces Working Group of =
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>        Title           : Multiple Provisioning Domain Architecture
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> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-mif-mpvd-arch-04.txt
> 	Pages           : 23
> 	Date            : 2014-09-12
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>   This document is a product of the work of the MIF Architecture =
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>   team.  It outlines a solution framework for some of the issues
>   experienced by nodes that can be attached to multiple networks
>   simultaneously.  The framework defines the concept of a Provisioning
>   Domain (PvD) which is a a consistent set of network configuration
>   information.  PvD aware nodes learn PvD specific information from =
the
>   networks they are attached to and / or other sources.  PvDs are used
>   to enable separation and configuration consistency in presence of
>   multiple concurrent connections.
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>One additional =
question that arose whilst I was reviewing the document is from the end =
of P1 in section 3.4:</div><div><br></div><div><pre style=3D"line-height: =
1.2em; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; font-size: 13px;">One way =
this could be accomplished is by using a DHCPv6 ORO containing the PvDs =
that are of interest.</pre><pre style=3D"line-height: 1.2em; margin-top: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; font-size: 13px;">The configuration source can =
then respond with only the requested =
information.</pre><div><br></div></div><div>I think that the language =
here is incorrect. The ORO is a list of option codes and this doesn=92t =
have any way of including specific PvDs (unless each PvD was defined as =
a DHCP option in its own right, which seems unworkable). I guess that =
the real intension here is to have a new DHCP option which carries =
information about requested/available PvDs, and for the client to =
include the option code for this in the =
ORO.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>If so, proposed new =
text:</div><div><br></div><div><pre style=3D"line-height: 1.2em; =
margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; font-size: 13px;">One way this =
could be accomplished is by using a new DHCPv6 option containing the =
PvDs that are of interest.</pre><pre style=3D"line-height: 1.2em; =
margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; font-size: 13px;">The configuration =
source can then respond with only the requested =
information.</pre><div><br></div></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Ian</div><di=
v><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>On 13 Sep 2014, at 02:29, Dmitry =
Anipko &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:Dmitry.Anipko@microsoft.com">Dmitry.Anipko@microsoft.com</a=
>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">This revision includes changes suggested by Ian Farrer per =
language review (thanks Ian!), and list of contributors as provided by =
the WG chairs.<br><br>Thank you.<br><br>-----Original =
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<a href=3D"mailto:mif@ietf.org">mif@ietf.org</a><br>Subject: [mif] I-D =
Action: draft-ietf-mif-mpvd-arch-04.txt<br><br><br>A New Internet-Draft =
is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.<br> This =
draft is a work item of the Multiple Interfaces Working Group of the =
IETF.<br><br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Title =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: Multiple =
Provisioning Domain Architecture<br> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Author =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: Dmitry =
Anipko<br><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>Filename &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: =
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</span>Date =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: =
2014-09-12<br><br>Abstract:<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;This document is a product =
of the work of the MIF Architecture Design<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;team. =
&nbsp;It outlines a solution framework for some of the issues<br> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;experienced by nodes that can be attached to multiple =
networks<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;simultaneously. &nbsp;The framework defines the =
concept of a Provisioning<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;Domain (PvD) which is a a =
consistent set of network configuration<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;information. =
&nbsp;PvD aware nodes learn PvD specific information from the<br> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;networks they are attached to and / or other sources. =
&nbsp;PvDs are used<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;to enable separation and =
configuration consistency in presence of<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;multiple =
concurrent connections.<br><br><br>The IETF datatracker status page for =
this draft is:<br><a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mif-mpvd-arch/">https:=
//datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mif-mpvd-arch/</a><br><br>There's =
also a htmlized version available =
at:<br>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mif-mpvd-arch-04<br><br>A =
diff from the previous version is available =
at:<br>http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-mif-mpvd-arch-04<br><=
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Hi, Folks:=20

It has been a long time since I posted something in this list last time.=20
Recently, I am doing a project related to intelligent driving and maintenanc=
e, which may need the help from this list.=20
Basically, one embedded HW platform will be put inside the vehicles. And, GS=
M, UMTS, WiFi have already been supported. In the near future, we will think=
 of integrating TD-LTE and C2X modules.=20
In this application scenario, quite a few sessions with diverse requirements=
 on bandwidth, routing, security, jitter, and reliability should be supporte=
d. In the meantime, the connections are quite dynamic along the driving rout=
e. Our current NIC management function is not so optimized, and has some neg=
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Is there any open-source MIF implementation could be available now days? And=
, our current HW is already very constrained in CPU/Mem resources, so that t=
he implementation should be well optimized for ARM/Linux.=20

Your help is greatly appreciated.=20
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It would be worth to consider NEMO (RFC 3963) for your use-case; open sourc=
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Hope that helps,
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>It has been a long time since I posted something in this list last time.
>Recently, I am doing a project related to intelligent driving and maintena=
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>Basically, one embedded HW platform will be put inside the vehicles. And,
>GSM, UMTS, WiFi have already been supported. In the near future, we will
>think of integrating TD-LTE and C2X modules.
>In this application scenario, quite a few sessions with diverse requiremen=
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>meantime, the connections are quite dynamic along the driving route. Our
>current NIC management function is not so optimized, and has some negative
>impact on the service quality.
>Is there any open-source MIF implementation could be available now days?
>And, our current HW is already very constrained in CPU/Mem resources, so
>that the implementation should be well optimized for ARM/Linux.
>
>Your help is greatly appreciated.
>BR
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Hi, Pierrick:

Cool. Your help is greatly appreciated. I will let my man to check it.=20

Many thanks
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>> =C3=80 : mif@ietf.org
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>>=20
>> Hi, Folks:
>>=20
>> It has been a long time since I posted something in this list last time.
>> Recently, I am doing a project related to intelligent driving and mainten=
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>> which may need the help from this list.
>> Basically, one embedded HW platform will be put inside the vehicles. And,=

>> GSM, UMTS, WiFi have already been supported. In the near future, we will
>> think of integrating TD-LTE and C2X modules.
>> In this application scenario, quite a few sessions with diverse requireme=
nts on
>> bandwidth, routing, security, jitter, and reliability should be supported=
. In the
>> meantime, the connections are quite dynamic along the driving route. Our
>> current NIC management function is not so optimized, and has some negativ=
e
>> impact on the service quality.
>> Is there any open-source MIF implementation could be available now days?
>> And, our current HW is already very constrained in CPU/Mem resources, so
>> that the implementation should be well optimized for ARM/Linux.
>>=20
>> Your help is greatly appreciated.
>> BR
>> Peny YANG
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Peny, you might be interested in https://project.inria.fr/itssv6/=20
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On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:31 PM, Peng.yang.chn@gmail.com =
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> Hi, Pierrick:
>=20
> Cool. Your help is greatly appreciated. I will let my man to check it.=20=

>=20
> Many thanks
> Regards,
> Peny
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> =E5=8F=91=E8=87=AA=E6=88=91=E7=9A=84 iPad
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>> Hi Peny,
>>=20
>> It would be worth to consider NEMO (RFC 3963) for your use-case; open =
source available here: http://www.umip.org/=20
>>=20
>> Hope that helps,
>> Pierrick
>>=20
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>>> =C3=80 : mif@ietf.org
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>>>=20
>>> Hi, Folks:
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>>> It has been a long time since I posted something in this list last =
time.
>>> Recently, I am doing a project related to intelligent driving and =
maintenance,
>>> which may need the help from this list.
>>> Basically, one embedded HW platform will be put inside the vehicles. =
And,
>>> GSM, UMTS, WiFi have already been supported. In the near future, we =
will
>>> think of integrating TD-LTE and C2X modules.
>>> In this application scenario, quite a few sessions with diverse =
requirements on
>>> bandwidth, routing, security, jitter, and reliability should be =
supported. In the
>>> meantime, the connections are quite dynamic along the driving route. =
Our
>>> current NIC management function is not so optimized, and has some =
negative
>>> impact on the service quality.
>>> Is there any open-source MIF implementation could be available now =
days?
>>> And, our current HW is already very constrained in CPU/Mem =
resources, so
>>> that the implementation should be well optimized for ARM/Linux.
>>>=20
>>> Your help is greatly appreciated.
>>> BR
>>> Peny YANG
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thanks<br>Regards,<br>Peny<br><br>=E5=8F=91=E8=87=AA=E6=88=91=E7=9A=84 =
iPad<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">=E5=9C=A8 =
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environment<br><br>Hi, Folks:<br><br>It has been a long time since I =
posted something in this list last time.<br>Recently, I am doing a =
project related to intelligent driving and maintenance,<br>which may =
need the help from this list.<br>Basically, one embedded HW platform =
will be put inside the vehicles. And,<br>GSM, UMTS, WiFi have already =
been supported. In the near future, we will<br>think of integrating =
TD-LTE and C2X modules.<br>In this application scenario, quite a few =
sessions with diverse requirements on<br>bandwidth, routing, security, =
jitter, and reliability should be supported. In the<br>meantime, the =
connections are quite dynamic along the driving route. Our<br>current =
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MIF implementation could be available now days?<br>And, our current HW =
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Le 15/09/2014 13:08, Peng.yang.chn@gmail.com a écrit :
> Hi, Folks:
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> It has been a long time since I posted something in this list last
> time. Recently, I am doing a project related to intelligent driving
> and maintenance, which may need the help from this list. Basically,
> one embedded HW platform will be put inside the vehicles. And, GSM,
> UMTS, WiFi have already been supported. In the near future, we will
> think of integrating TD-LTE and C2X modules. In this application
> scenario, quite a few sessions with diverse requirements on
> bandwidth, routing, security, jitter, and reliability should be
> supported. In the meantime, the connections are quite dynamic along
> the driving route. Our current NIC management function is not so
> optimized, and has some negative impact on the service quality. Is
> there any open-source MIF implementation could be available now days?
> And, our current HW is already very constrained in CPU/Mem resources,
> so that the implementation should be well optimized for ARM/Linux.
>
> Your help is greatly appreciated. BR Peny YANG

Hello,

It all depends of which particular functionality is needed in realizing
this intelligent driving and maintenance, and at which layer.

At the software driver level, open-source software exists for most NICs 
on the market.  There are also some less open sources for 802.11p 
drivers (which one can call C2X).

At the networking layer, almost everything needed is available as 
open-source: IPv4 and IPv6 stacks in linux, umip.org implementation of 
Mobile IPv6, dynamics implementation of Mobile IPv4, NAT masquerading in 
the kernel for IPv4 and IPv6, DHCPv4 and DHCPv6 clients, relays and servers.

At the application layer, there is very little available as open source. 
  These applications are developped very quickly in rapid development 
environments such as java, remote procedure calls, eclipse and more. 
The tools to develop such application software _are_ open source - it is 
the same as for desktop environments.  Along these lines I saw recent 
announcements: BMW CarIT, Automotive Grade Android, Xen hypervisor, 
GENIVI, Apple CarPlay, Google Auto Link (ask Jeremiah Foster).

In terms of making connections reliable to the vehicle- there is nothing 
available as open source either.  This is software depending to a large 
extent to the behaviour of particular chipsets and telecom operators' 
networks.  There is a big challenge to start connections very quickly 
(engine start plus 5 seconds) and to maintain connections up during long 
time while the vehicle moves across large areas).

Alex

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Multiple Interfaces Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Multiple Provisioning Domain Architecture
        Author          : Dmitry Anipko
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	Date            : 2014-09-15

Abstract:
   This document is a product of the work of the MIF Architecture Design
   team.  It outlines a solution framework for some of the issues
   experienced by nodes that can be attached to multiple networks
   simultaneously.  The framework defines the concept of a Provisioning
   Domain (PvD) which is a a consistent set of network configuration
   information.  PvD aware nodes learn PvD specific information from the
   networks they are attached to and / or other sources.  PvDs are used
   to enable separation and configuration consistency in presence of
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Multiple Interfaces Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Multiple Provisioning Domain Architecture
        Author          : Dmitry Anipko
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mif-mpvd-arch-06.txt
	Pages           : 23
	Date            : 2014-09-17

Abstract:
   This document is a product of the work of the MIF Architecture Design
   team.  It outlines a solution framework for some of the issues
   experienced by nodes that can be attached to multiple networks
   simultaneously.  The framework defines the concept of a Provisioning
   Domain (PvD) which is a a consistent set of network configuration
   information.  PvD aware nodes learn PvD specific information from the
   networks they are attached to and / or other sources.  PvDs are used
   to enable separation and configuration consistency in presence of
   multiple concurrent connections.


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