From nobody Sun May 8 15:56:59 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mif@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mif@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F03C12B059 for ; Sun, 8 May 2016 15:56:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.197 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.197 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.996, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ei0ZodFutCVJ for ; Sun, 8 May 2016 15:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out.west.pexch112.icann.org (pfe112-ca-1.pexch112.icann.org [64.78.40.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9432A12B033 for ; Sun, 8 May 2016 15:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org (64.78.40.21) by PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org (64.78.40.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1130.7; Sun, 8 May 2016 15:56:51 -0700 Received: from PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org ([64.78.40.21]) by PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG ([64.78.40.21]) with mapi id 15.00.1130.005; Sun, 8 May 2016 15:56:51 -0700 From: Terry Manderson To: "mif@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Decision regarding MIF Thread-Index: AQHRqXzoXOA/exeC90K89UcAn90N8w== Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 22:56:50 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.6.3.160329 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [192.0.32.234] Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="B_3545629009_2635825" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [mif] Decision regarding MIF X-BeenThere: mif@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multiple Interface Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 May 2016 22:56:57 -0000 --B_3545629009_2635825 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit WG, As AD I have been following the WG recharter/position discussion with much interest. My observations are these: * There are great suggestions of what MIF could work on. * These suggestions are interesting topics and might lead to great places. * There is a small group of people that supports these topics. * There is currently not a sufficient critical mass of participants to assist in and review that work. My decision is this. While the work is interesting, there is not a sufficiently sized cohort to carry this work through the standards process. I could certainly speculate why that might be, but would prefer to keep to the facts. This is simply where we are. I will be closing the MIF Working Group, however I will be leaving the Mailing List open for ongoing discussion. I will AD shepherd any remaining milestone MIF documents when they come to me. At a later date when a sufficiently sized cohort exists that is committed to see the work done either I, my co-ad, or my successor (if that is the case) has the option ability to re-open and recharter MIF. I would like to express my sincere thanks appreciation to both Hui and Margaret, as co-chairs, for doing everything they could to ignite the passion in MIF. A hearty "Thank You" also goes to the active authors, contributors, participants, and supporters of MIF. The IETF is a community and you are a valuable part of that community. I expect to see more of MIF at some point in the future. Thanks Terry (Wearing the INT AD Fez) --B_3545629009_2635825 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIIYwwYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIYtDCCGLACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC FowwggV0MIIEXKADAgECAhAJ0fxYYYV36W1njUywVtW8MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMGUxCzAJ BgNVBAYTAlVTMRUwEwYDVQQKEwxEaWdpQ2VydCBJbmMxGTAXBgNVBAsTEHd3dy5kaWdpY2Vy dC5jb20xJDAiBgNVBAMTG0RpZ2lDZXJ0IFNIQTIgQXNzdXJlZCBJRCBDQTAeFw0xNTAzMjYw MDAwMDBaFw0xODAzMjYxMjAwMDBaMIGQMQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzETMBEGA1UECBMKQ2FsaWZv cm5pYTEUMBIGA1UEBxMLTG9zIEFuZ2VsZXMxPDA6BgNVBAoTM0ludGVybmV0IENvcnBvcmF0 aW9uIGZvciBBc3NpZ25lZCBOYW1lcyBhbmQgTnVtYmVyczEYMBYGA1UEAxMPVGVycnkgTWFu ZGVyc29uMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAwTImt0Ol/9dOAbnm4lby 4RG1iQEnHVB5UJTYqwX8kqEhA5NPFHbMX22ChnP7M/zIlY+OP2TfKcwfdF5DJN4ybt4gFGzE 9ksigMe365F0uA2Q4+CskwqWo2fGIqrhgb0C68bg6EnZxj73KlJ0mvbQqzLBY8fVwr8srWpB 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Mon, 9 May 2016 09:10:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 09:10:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Mikael Abrahamsson To: Terry Manderson In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) Organization: People's Front Against WWW MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Archived-At: Cc: "mif@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mif] Decision regarding MIF X-BeenThere: mif@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multiple Interface Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 May 2016 07:10:17 -0000 On Sun, 8 May 2016, Terry Manderson wrote: > I will be closing the MIF Working Group, however I will be leaving the > Mailing List open for ongoing discussion. Hi, With the MIF working group closed, where should work in this area be done? I don't really care where the work is done, as long as it gets done. INTAREA? Since we're seeing people show up with solutions and request these to be implemented (draft-mccann-dmm-prefixcost for instance), I'd like to see this being coordinated somewhere. Or is there no agreement that this should be coordinated? Because I don't think we'll find the best technical architecture overall by working groups independently coming up with solutions in the same space and then go and request L3 protocol enhancements individually without overall coordination. In my view, this would mean that either nothing gets done (because 6MAN will say no), or we get too many solutions in the same problem space leading to fragmentation and different technologies not playing nice with each other. 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FWIW, I was thinking to send them to intarea when they're done being separated. On 9 May 2016 at 16:10, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On Sun, 8 May 2016, Terry Manderson wrote: > >> I will be closing the MIF Working Group, however I will be leaving the >> Mailing List open for ongoing discussion. > > > Hi, > > With the MIF working group closed, where should work in this area be done? > > I don't really care where the work is done, as long as it gets done. > INTAREA? > > Since we're seeing people show up with solutions and request these to be > implemented (draft-mccann-dmm-prefixcost for instance), I'd like to see this > being coordinated somewhere. Or is there no agreement that this should be > coordinated? > > Because I don't think we'll find the best technical architecture overall by > working groups independently coming up with solutions in the same space and > then go and request L3 protocol enhancements individually without overall > coordination. In my view, this would mean that either nothing gets done > (because 6MAN will say no), or we get too many solutions in the same problem > space leading to fragmentation and different technologies not playing nice > with each other. > > So while I realise why you've made your decision, this is the one question > that is still left unanswered for me. > > -- > Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se > > _______________________________________________ > mif mailing list > mif@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mif From nobody Mon May 9 10:07:32 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mif@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mif@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07A512D55C for ; Mon, 9 May 2016 10:07:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xVdTV47x3WDY for ; Mon, 9 May 2016 10:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pf0-x22e.google.com (mail-pf0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6A2912D549 for ; Mon, 9 May 2016 10:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pf0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id c189so80499853pfb.3 for ; Mon, 09 May 2016 10:07:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=reply-to:subject:references:to:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eEzAeoGNHDVweKjdkltILMYJ+kGSJMzQRyiLEn7lPsc=; b=SnGwVUNEoBkmsLEpfPH5mdkoda+6sMKMP8UuBTkmyvqpUSZLET+C2BUrHHVDM1CSBr lJIEDpuJtfN4q5o6PeD48lT0rnFSOoDa4qCe4P3UQYu8b+fstRP+izQHj5s0BBByUNNp +Vivl5MyMch99ablP9ug/IKa+Po26Ej7PHwF7z4AAdlyisPoVXH3FpWSEJHTUvyuHdgb X1fOox4CobEM4Dm7iWPcUrATbI85Fi2275DixAlB9mprtHcnMWUkH0zxkhA3EqPK+xEQ j77O2vN4fH56pghyL0vEyalMJbkEEv1IdOdUeVkyTMT9Cdzgyur9Dk+JGwt5dNyrASlg eBZg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:reply-to:subject:references:to:cc:from :message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eEzAeoGNHDVweKjdkltILMYJ+kGSJMzQRyiLEn7lPsc=; b=SMN9A2y9AMGueQqnLX+WHOgkqa4M3kIZruMNsrVEpEo8Sddqg58mcd/pGKTlW4f0Cf B/5bQXhUEMb3bf0v3+uliSMlf2kWVPUtis3xqMia/PBxJRYAyAHIruBFnvAoAIlwMnNu Q4SUDN47bqEUYh9KZrnl2W8b3QZTCN5/n7LPRhZG5drakpU6vfK9SQD41Qnrobfrjk0l aRIsSDbbaJW5a21wh/1ZswZ0TOlf1zCpYKQJTUAAnz6hx/cioIe9Y0bIBobHVU43mkat T4zkLpwZ6UJk3XYATsGx4pMMw3yYlGwRCxqlPQrEziu2MB+RB84m8nDOcJFOf+f7YNND mtew== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FWUirt/waBRnoMzIG32DHeW97WBoChxYqMgpBF6wNquKBReADu83uQcScmyaGxmIg== X-Received: by 10.98.66.80 with SMTP id p77mr51837852pfa.75.1462813649341; Mon, 09 May 2016 10:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.16.65.123] ([216.31.219.19]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id h1sm41831714pfh.49.2016.05.09.10.07.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 09 May 2016 10:07:28 -0700 (PDT) References: To: Mikael Abrahamsson , Terry Manderson From: Jouni Korhonen Message-ID: <5730C3CA.4060807@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 10:07:22 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "mif@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mif] Decision regarding MIF X-BeenThere: mif@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: jouni.nospam@gmail.com List-Id: Multiple Interface Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 May 2016 17:07:31 -0000 My take is that anything "mobility" related can be hosted in DMM (within the limits of the charter, of course). The coordination part as pointed out by Mikael is a bit of a challenge. - Jouni (DMM co-chair) 5/9/2016, 12:10 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson kirjoitti: > On Sun, 8 May 2016, Terry Manderson wrote: > >> I will be closing the MIF Working Group, however I will be leaving the >> Mailing List open for ongoing discussion. > > Hi, > > With the MIF working group closed, where should work in this area be done? > > I don't really care where the work is done, as long as it gets done. > INTAREA? > > Since we're seeing people show up with solutions and request these to be > implemented (draft-mccann-dmm-prefixcost for instance), I'd like to see > this being coordinated somewhere. Or is there no agreement that this > should be coordinated? > > Because I don't think we'll find the best technical architecture overall > by working groups independently coming up with solutions in the same > space and then go and request L3 protocol enhancements individually > without overall coordination. In my view, this would mean that either > nothing gets done (because 6MAN will say no), or we get too many > solutions in the same problem space leading to fragmentation and > different technologies not playing nice with each other. > > So while I realise why you've made your decision, this is the one > question that is still left unanswered for me. > From nobody Tue May 10 06:23:32 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mif@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mif@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8BD12B04A for ; Tue, 10 May 2016 06:23:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.197 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.197 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.996, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PvSK2AkCu5us for ; Tue, 10 May 2016 06:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out.west.pexch112.icann.org (pfe112-ca-2.pexch112.icann.org [64.78.40.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78A2A12B018 for ; Tue, 10 May 2016 06:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org (64.78.40.21) by PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org (64.78.40.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1130.7; Tue, 10 May 2016 06:23:27 -0700 Received: from PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org ([64.78.40.21]) by PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG ([64.78.40.21]) with mapi id 15.00.1130.005; Tue, 10 May 2016 06:23:27 -0700 From: Terry Manderson To: Mikael Abrahamsson Thread-Topic: [mif] Decision regarding MIF Thread-Index: AQHRqXzoXOA/exeC90K89UcAn90N85+wpgIAgAKiQ4A= Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 13:23:27 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.6.3.160329 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [192.0.47.234] Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="B_3545767405_488486" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "mif@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mif] Decision regarding MIF X-BeenThere: mif@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multiple Interface Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 13:23:31 -0000 --B_3545767405_488486 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi Mikael, On 9/05/2016, 5:10 PM, "Mikael Abrahamsson" wrote: >On Sun, 8 May 2016, Terry Manderson wrote: > >> I will be closing the MIF Working Group, however I will be leaving the >> Mailing List open for ongoing discussion. > >Hi, > >With the MIF working group closed, where should work in this area be done? > >I don't really care where the work is done, as long as it gets done. >INTAREA? I doubt there is a one place for everything as some topics do appear to have strong correlation to existing WGs. However, yes INTAREA would be the default location for topics not already solidly in play. That said, I'm very open to talking about what and where on a case by case basis. [..] > >So while I realise why you've made your decision, this is the one >question >that is still left unanswered for me. Does this help address that concern? 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