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Hi Roman,

On 21/12/2015 18:16, Roman D. Danyliw wrote:
> Hello WG!
>
> Updates to 5070bis addressing the feedback from the WGLC is almost complete.  In cleaning up the text in Section 2, Data Types, I noticed that four classes (SystemImpact, BusinessImpact, IntendedImpact and NodeRole) are defined as extentions to iodef:MLStringType -- they add more attributes.  I wonder if that's the right thing to do giving the recently introduced complexity of the @translation-id.
>
> Consider the following:
>
> <Assessment>
>    <SystemImpact xml:lang="foo" translation-id="1" type="damaged-data">Impact 1</SystemImpact>
>    <SystemImpact xml:lang="bar" translation-id="1" type="cps-damage">Translation of Impact 1</SystemImpact>
> ...
> </Assessment>
>
> There appear to be two SystemImpact classes that are translations of each other (both with @translation-id=1).  However, they have different values for the @type attribute strongly suggesting they aren't identical instances of the same class.  Shouldn't instances of SystemImpact with the same translation-id have the same @type value?  This same circumstance can arise in BusinessImpact, IntendedImpact and NodeRole.
>
> Option 1:
> =======
> Would a syntax as follows be preferred to prevent this inconsistency:
> ...
> <Assessment>
>    <SystemImpact type="damaged-data">
>      <Description xml:lang="foo" translation-id="1">Translation of Impact 1</Description>
>      <Description xml:lang="bar" translation-id="1">Translation of Impact 1</Description>
>    </SystemImpact>
>    <SystemImpact cps-damage" />
> ...
> </Assessment>
>
> +-----------------------+
> | SystemImpact          |
> +-----------------------+
> | ENUM severity         |<>--{0..*}--[ Description       ]
> | ENUM completion       |
> | ENUM type             |
> | STRING ext-type       |
> +-----------------------+
>
> Option 2:
> =======
> As an alternative, class-specific text could be written to state which attributes need to be identical for a given translation-id.
>
> IMHO, I'm leaning towards Option #1 because it will likely mean less implementation logic and it prevents even making the wrong XML.
Speaking with no hats, I prefer your option #1 as well.


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Dear MILE participants,
This message starts 2 weeks acceptance call (ending on February 2nd) for 
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Dear MILE participants,

Just a reminder, that there is still 1 week left of the acceptance call. 
If you think the MILE WG should work or not work on this item, please 
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Thank you,
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Hello all,

I would like to support the adoption of the draft.

The current version of the draft mainly talks about the overview/summary =
of
XMPP itself.
I hope the draft will develop the content of Section 3.
As the section indicates, we already have
http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0268.html.
This draft could cope with this, considering IODEF-bis.

Take




2016-01-19 22:31 GMT+09:00 Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com>:
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Subject: Re: [mile] Acceptance call for draft-appala-mile-xmpp-grid-00
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I support the draft as well. It should be updated to apply to more to the I=
ODEF context.
Panos


-----Original Message-----
From: mile [mailto:mile-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexey Melnikov
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:41 PM
To: mile@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [mile] Acceptance call for draft-appala-mile-xmpp-grid-00

Dear MILE participants,

Just a reminder, that there is still 1 week left of the acceptance call.=20
If you think the MILE WG should work or not work on this item, please let c=
hairs know.

Thank you,
Alexey

On 19/01/2016 13:31, Alexey Melnikov wrote:
> Dear MILE participants,
> This message starts 2 weeks acceptance call (ending on February 2nd)=20
> for draft draft-appala-mile-xmpp-grid-00 (XMPP Protocol Extensions for=20
> Use with IODEF). Please reply to this message (or directly to MILE=20
> chairs mile-chairs@ietf.org) with your opinion on the matter, in=20
> particular if you are interested in reviewing or implementing this=20
> document.
>
> Thank you,
> Alexey, as a co-chair.
>
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