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(Fed)" To: Roman Danyliw CC: "mile@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Feedback on draft-banghart-mile-rolie-csirt-02 Thread-Index: AdNiE0gmyccQA7GdQdmhMZonzYpWZwGb6TqQ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 15:31:00 +0000 Message-ID: References: <359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC010500B1E4@marathon> In-Reply-To: <359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC010500B1E4@marathon> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=stephen.banghart@nist.gov; x-originating-ip: [129.6.251.1] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; MWHPR09MB1198; 6:6uYDGLliQHYlwCCPMrwdXpoFGLPQSdcQCW+MrSkJFdGrb9wVSo27ZxALX0Dm47DCO4fI9560OXpUgXImoFYhcwSy3WHvL4RWG6B7KTuuJ9CT5lJ4q81KiN7kkofz/1q/HVVfyffEv/uCwsnuoYrWBphTU9FT1g2nvTlJsexEQQI7kLus7rMpbtaswQHf0yTEhVXleyRM/sSTH7e+f/c/6iFsu62ChN0BBVWneONDWtQ0ZI+765DI1ZRF06s7JORkPJ90vQExkATBaY9cfiNGCFM+cSArR0brQrSBnEhAXJK0WDeXni4XrkHn8erKD2GD0N7+gqKb1gU2qp1S/BX0QqYiJPh/vE8WOe4h1bIR3uA=; 5:N2VLHlYu/rVIeP20X+u6JtBX+3KvWGVRYZT2N5842sR467w1eX9RRFLEC++297WQZH1nCr4F5fbxAN1KQ+SkPsjTiQvR+KI9fDsVSfpDUshuPbxLkm9yNH6xLy3zSbey3nYRIZk36yYrrUeaG/ewf72aIrpEZ3ZwhZQTXRUd4Co=; 24:lKNQ8JdSnSYmTdtarh8/EIIcK8BZNxd1sf+jFwR0K1EwJIIHD4sSZZ7/NOkTIRs2mvU+kuLgGKOGAvjkr0gCRu+B8tP0Oz9CsVtBGUGUUk4=; 7:tANZeiUf9bi2mhsvRO1BgiXS41FrGRCsbECgHrpFCMS2xTf3p28kCnPwjLtNHKx7MTpLP4oiSkcLHI8v+vYv40C1htgIjeU7lObiJ+Nik3vPLdnWMNZsoXTkKJjHHuIv1Pu52UKqoL4E2sOHnvwvLfmVvYwnN6JjdXEk4+q08kMStpK2myVFl6Oeb47Ci9+VS1Z1SI2mPW8iSNp72EIgk91UeKyGj8kgDRSpOTv3Mtmw5qJOPOq56DJE/EN8z3tU x-ms-exchange-antispam-srfa-diagnostics: SSOS; x-ms-office365-filtering-ht: Tenant x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 1a24d074-b711-42fa-c87a-08d538d0868f x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(4534020)(4602075)(4627115)(201703031133081)(201702281549075)(48565401081)(5600026)(4604075)(2017052603286); SRVR:MWHPR09MB1198; x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: MWHPR09MB1198: x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:(192374486261705)(189930954265078)(219752817060721)(211171220733660); x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(6040450)(2401047)(8121501046)(5005006)(93006095)(93001095)(3002001)(10201501046)(3231022)(6055026)(6041248)(20161123558100)(20161123560025)(201703131423075)(201702281528075)(201703061421075)(201703061406153)(20161123564025)(20161123555025)(20161123562025)(6072148)(201708071742011); SRVR:MWHPR09MB1198; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(100000803101)(100110400095); SRVR:MWHPR09MB1198; x-forefront-prvs: 05087F0C24 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(376002)(39860400002)(346002)(366004)(13464003)(51914003)(199003)(189002)(8936002)(86362001)(6436002)(81166006)(8676002)(81156014)(99286004)(230783001)(14454004)(966005)(33656002)(55016002)(76176011)(2950100002)(6246003)(77096006)(54356011)(74316002)(7736002)(6506006)(316002)(68736007)(25786009)(6916009)(305945005)(102836003)(105586002)(3660700001)(3846002)(3280700002)(106356001)(2900100001)(53546010)(101416001)(9686003)(7696005)(45080400002)(5660300001)(229853002)(66066001)(97736004)(478600001)(53936002)(2906002)(189998001)(4326008)(6306002)(6116002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:MWHPR09MB1198; H:MWHPR09MB1197.namprd09.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: nist.gov does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: nist.gov X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 1a24d074-b711-42fa-c87a-08d538d0868f X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 01 Dec 2017 15:31:00.3153 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 2ab5d82f-d8fa-4797-a93e-054655c61dec X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: MWHPR09MB1198 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mile] Feedback on draft-banghart-mile-rolie-csirt-02 X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2017 15:31:06 -0000 Roman, Thanks for the review. Comments inline. Several of your points cover sectio= ns of the document that are being removed following the decision the group = made at IETF100 to trim down the IODEF specific requirements. I'll have the= newer version of the document with those changes posted soon. > -----Original Message----- > From: mile [mailto:mile-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Roman Danyliw > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 11:23 AM > To: mile@ietf.org > Subject: [mile] Feedback on draft-banghart-mile-rolie-csirt-02 >=20 > Hi Stephen and John! >=20 > >From my reading of draft-banghart-mile-rolie-csirt-02, I have the follow= ing > feedback: >=20 > (1) Section 3, Additional Requirements for the Atom Publishing Protocol >=20 > ** Cite RFC5023 as the reference for Atom Publishing Protocol. >=20 > (2) Section 4, > ** Cite RFC4287 as the reference for Atom Syndication Format. Added reference to both of these, thanks. > (3) Section 3.1.2, User Authorization >=20 > ** In the first sentence, I'd recommend replacing s/When the content mode= l > .../When the content for the Atom element contains an Document>/ for readability. > ** Also the first sentence states "... the authorization MUST be adjudic= ated > ... per Section 8.1.1". What specific section in 8.1.1 is being referenc= ed? Is it > @restriction? Is it also worth noting that this adjudication will be don= e is > outside the scope of the document -- some sites might treat > @restriction=3D"need-to-know" differently? > ** is mentioned but without citation. Per discussion at IETF 100 this entire requirement has been removed as part= of the process of removing IODEF specific restriction on the ROLIE protoco= l. > (4) Section 4, Additonal Requirements for the Atom Syndication Format > ** s/Additonal/Additional/ (typo in the Section title) >=20 > (5) Section 4.1, Additional Requirements for the atom:feed element > ** s/Additonal/Additional/ (typo in the Section title) Thanks for catching this, fixed. > ** The first sentence states "A feed containing IODEF incident content MU= ST > contain at least two additional elements." What does it > mean to contain "IODEF incident content"? Is "IODEF incident content" an > instance of an whose includes at least one ? > (6) Section 4.2, Additonal Requirements for the atom:entry element > ** s/Additonal/Additional/ (typo in the Section title) > ** The first sentence states "An entry containing an IODEF payload." Wha= t > does it mean to contain an "IODEF payload"? Is it an instance of Document>? >=20 > (7) Section 4.3.1, The IODEF Document >=20 > ** s/// > ** s/// >=20 > (8) Section 5.1, "incident" information type >=20 > ** The fifth bullet uses the language "effect and result information", it= might > be clearer to refer to it as the "incident impact" All of the above sections have been removed as IODEF specific requirements = per IETF100. > (9) Section 5.3.1, IODEF Format >=20 > ** Cite IODEF with an informative reference Added. > ** The last paragraph states that "The use of the IODEF format imposes > additional requirements on the server." Where are those requirement > documented? Removed this paragraph. > (10) Section 5.3.2, STIX Format >=20 > ** Cite STIX with an informative reference Trying to track down a good single reference for this. I suspect that Bret = might be able to help us with this. >=20 > (11) Section 6.1, urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:csirt:ID >=20 > ** The first sentence states that csirt:ID "provides an exposure point fo= r an > identifier ...". What is an "exposure point"? Is that a unique referenc= e? > ** Also, the first sentence states "... identifier from the indicator or = incident > document". What is an "indicator" or "incident document" in this content= ? Rewrote this sentence to: "Provides an XML element that can be populated with an identifier from the indicator or incident document linked to by an atom:content element." This is in the context of being a rolie:property element, a general use key= :value pairing defined in the ROLIE core. > (12) Section 8.1.1, Newly registered category values > ** The second sentence notes that "This IODEF content exposure provides > ..." What is meant by "content exposure"? > ** The second and third paragraphs make references to Section 3.2 of IODE= F. I agree that the terminology "content exposure" isn't very intuitive. I'll = think about the wording on this and redo it for the next version. > Which IODEF -- RFC 5070 or 7970? > ** I'd recommend removing the attribute value examples (i.e., "e.g, publi= c, > need-to-know, private, default", "e.g. traceback, mitigation, reporting, = or > other") as these may change with the extension values in the IANA registr= y > (assuming RFC7970 is the version of IODEF in question). We're intending to reference RFC7970. Thanks for the suggestion on the exam= ple values, I've removed them. > (13) Section 10, Security Considerations >=20 > ** The first sentence states that this document is about "us[ing] ROLIE i= n > high-security use cases". I'm not sure what "high security" means in thi= s > context. > ** In the same sentence, it says that "added care should be taken to fort= ify > and secure ROLIE" -- like what? I was trying to remain vague, to avoid prescribing actions for CSIRTs to ta= ke. With that said references to some of the specific technologies we call = out in the ROLIE core document Security considerations would provide some g= ood concrete examples of what "high security" is and how to secure it. > ** Per the second sentence, I recommend: > s/The guidance in the ROILE core specification ... is strongly > recommended/The security and privacy considerations of the ROILE core > specification [I-D.ietf-mile-roile] are applicable./ Changed. > ** In the same sentence, it says that "implementers should consider addin= g > additional security measures as they see fit" -- like what? I'll add references to the methods we call out in the ROLIE core here as ex= amples. > ** The first sentence of the second paragraph references "closed sharing"= . > I'm not sure what that means. How about just "private consortium"? I'm trying to reference any security o= rganization or a group of security organizations that are privately sharing= information with eachother. Thanks for the review, the document is shaping up, Stephen > Regards, > Roman >=20 > _______________________________________________ > mile mailing list > mile@ietf.org > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.i > etf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fmile&data=3D02%7C01%7Cstephen.banghar > t%40nist.gov%7C6e5575bf4a4e44340d2008d53033106d%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797 > a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C0%7C636467918241204252&sdata=3D%2FKfhbkT5N > vuBPE07VUZ3Y3JMJJHPMRMOM8FRqvY9cjc%3D&reserved=3D0 From nobody Fri Dec 1 11:37:40 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8AC126CB6 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 11:37:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.879 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.879 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, T_SPF_HELO_TEMPERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nistgov.onmicrosoft.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HQH_eO3_Yi4s for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 11:37:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from gcc01-CY1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-cy1gcc01on0125.outbound.protection.outlook.com [23.103.200.125]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B11FA124D85 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 11:37:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nistgov.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector1-nist-gov; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=RIpqjMJ6ACxrWHVvM8qMLPKJPVqGMBAy7GnbYoGZvOU=; b=CptpvGRpOnn69SRhnoAjRQPDzzRlvEre1A9Chng288L4hLbOeHFGgH00iESLpcog/nWnYUW3eqoNSgfLOWyu3HI3fvBM7SdXpbhcHiB15D5dgVp2agkn4S+3zh9D3cD7jZHxuW4uEas22pdAnQKzsjzHSLocgjMkW/twMZU8e50= Received: from MWHPR09MB1197.namprd09.prod.outlook.com (10.172.49.143) by MWHPR09MB1199.namprd09.prod.outlook.com (10.172.49.145) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P256) id 15.20.282.5; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 19:37:34 +0000 Received: from MWHPR09MB1197.namprd09.prod.outlook.com ([10.172.49.143]) by MWHPR09MB1197.namprd09.prod.outlook.com ([10.172.49.143]) with mapi id 15.20.0282.007; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 19:37:34 +0000 From: "Banghart, Stephen A. 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<497F1C2F-2CAE-4261-B603-62CB8F22AAAA@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <497F1C2F-2CAE-4261-B603-62CB8F22AAAA@cisco.com> From: Adam Montville Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2017 22:01:48 +0000 Message-ID: To: "Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" Cc: "mile@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11405cac82d76e055f4e846b" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mile] Adoption call for draft-banghart-mile-rolie-csirt-00 X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2017 22:02:02 -0000 --001a11405cac82d76e055f4e846b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I support MILE adopting this draft (I raised my hand at the meeting, so I wanted to show support here as well). On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 1:23 PM Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing) < ncamwing@cisco.com> wrote: > Hello MILE members, > > > > Thanks to Panos and Roman for providing some feedback on the > draft-banghart-mile-rolie-csirt-00 > > draft. There was some interest at both the IETF 99 and IETF 100 to have > this work move forward > > as a work item in MILE. > > > > As to the question raised: =E2=80=9CIs this draft in scope for MILE=E2=80= =9D, I believe > the answer is Yes as it is an applicability document that demonstrates ho= w > ROLIE can be used for CSIRT use cases. > > > > With that in mind, we need to reach consensus on whether MILE should adop= t > draft-banghart-mile-rolie-csirt-00 > > as a WG informational draft. Please provide feedback and comments in > this thread. > > > > Thanks, Nancy > _______________________________________________ > mile mailing list > mile@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mile > --001a11405cac82d76e055f4e846b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I support MILE adopting this draft (I raised my hand= at the meeting, so I wanted to show support here as well).

On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 1:23 PM Nancy Cam-Winget = (ncamwing) <ncamwing@cisco.com= > wrote:

Hello MILE members,=

=C2=A0

Thanks to Panos and= Roman for providing some feedback on the draft-banghart-mile-rolie-csirt-0= 0

draft.=C2=A0 There = was some interest at both the IETF 99 and IETF 100 to have this work move f= orward

as a work item in M= ILE.

=C2=A0

As to the question = raised: =E2=80=9CIs this draft in scope for MILE=E2=80=9D, I believe the an= swer is Yes as it is an applicability document that demonstrates how ROLIE = can be used for CSIRT use cases.

=C2=A0

With that in mind, = we need to reach consensus on whether MILE should adopt draft-banghart-mile= -rolie-csirt-00

as a WG information= al draft.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Please provide feedback and comments in this thread.<= u>

=C2=A0

Thanks, Nancy

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(Fed)" Cc: "Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" , "Banghart, Stephen A. (Fed)" , "mile@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mile] Adoption call for draft-banghart-mile-rolie-csirt-00 X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 14:24:53 -0000 +1 Kind regards, Take 2017-12-05 23:22 GMT+09:00 Waltermire, David A. (Fed) : > I support this work being adopted as a WG item. > > > > Thanks, > > Dave > > > > From: mile [mailto:mile-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Nancy Cam-Winget > (ncamwing) > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 4:57 PM > To: Banghart, Stephen A. (Fed) > Cc: mile@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [mile] Adoption call for draft-banghart-mile-rolie-csirt-00 > > > > Hi Stephen, > > > > Yes, thank you for that! The call for adoption, in general, is to whethe= r > the MILE members want to adopt work demonstrating how ROLIE maps to CSIRT > use cases. > > But we can point to the most recent draft which is -02. > > > > Thanks again, Nancy > > > > From: "Banghart, Stephen A. (Fed)" > Date: Friday, December 1, 2017 at 11:37 AM > To: "ncamwing@cisco.com" > Cc: "mile@ietf.org" > Subject: RE: [mile] Adoption call for draft-banghart-mile-rolie-csirt-00 > > > > Nancy, > > > > Just wanted to clarify that Roman provided his comments on the most recen= t > version of the draft: banghart-mile-rolie-csirt-02. There have been fairl= y > significant formatting changes since version -00. > > > > Thanks, > > Stephen > > > > From: mile [mailto:mile-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Nancy Cam-Winget > (ncamwing) > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 2:23 PM > To: mile@ietf.org > Subject: [mile] Adoption call for draft-banghart-mile-rolie-csirt-00 > > > > Hello MILE members, > > > > Thanks to Panos and Roman for providing some feedback on the > draft-banghart-mile-rolie-csirt-00 > > draft. There was some interest at both the IETF 99 and IETF 100 to have > this work move forward > > as a work item in MILE. > > > > As to the question raised: =E2=80=9CIs this draft in scope for MILE=E2=80= =9D, I believe the > answer is Yes as it is an applicability document that demonstrates how RO= LIE > can be used for CSIRT use cases. > > > > With that in mind, we need to reach consensus on whether MILE should adop= t > draft-banghart-mile-rolie-csirt-00 > > as a WG informational draft. Please provide feedback and comments in th= is > thread. > > > > Thanks, Nancy > > > _______________________________________________ > mile mailing list > mile@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mile > --=20 -- Takeshi Takahashi, Ph.D., CISSP, PMP "Practice makes perfect!" 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11 Dec 2017 09:19:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.186.208 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:19:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <150670057250.14181.17753271478518577817.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Kathleen Moriarty Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 12:19:00 -0500 Message-ID: To: Pearl Liang via RT Cc: "iesg@ietf.org" , John Field , "Banghart, Stephen A. (Fed)" , "Waltermire, David A." , ncamwing@cisco.com, Takeshi Takahashi , Eric Rescorla , "mile-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , MILE IETF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 10:37:13 -0800 Subject: Re: [mile] [IANA #983750] Last Call: (Resource-Oriented Lightweight Information Exchange) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:19:44 -0000 Dear IANA, The IANA state on this document, says, Version Changed, review needed. Could I get a status update please? Thank you, Kathleen On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Sabrina Tanamal via RT wrote: > (BEGIN IANA COMMENTS) > > IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: > > The IANA Services Operator has completed its review of draft-ietf-mile-ro= lie-10. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let us know. > > The IANA Services Operator understands that, upon approval of this docume= nt, there are seven actions which we must complete. > > First, in the ns registry on the IETF XML registry page located at: > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/xml-registry/ > > a new namespace will be registered as follows: > > ID: rolie-1.0 > URI: urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:rolie-1.0 > Filename: [ TBD-at-registration ] > Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] > > Because this registry requires Expert Review [RFC8126] for registration, = we've contacted the IESG-designated expert in a separate ticket to request = approval. Expert review should be completed before your document can be app= roved for publication as an RFC. > > Second, in the schema registry also on the IETF XML registry page located= at: > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/xml-registry/ > > a new schema will be registered as follows: > > ID: rolie-1.0 > URI: urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:rolie-1.0 > Filename: [ TBD-at-registration ] > Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] > > Because this registry also requires Expert Review [RFC8126] for registrat= ion, we've contacted the IESG-designated expert in a separate ticket to req= uest approval. Expert review should be completed before your document can b= e approved for publication as an RFC. > > Third, in the IETF URN Sub-namespace for Registered Protocol Parameter Id= entifiers registry on the Uniform Resource Name (URN) Namespace for IETF Us= e registry page located at: > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/params/ > > a new parameter identifier will be registered as follows: > > Registered Parameter Identifier: rolie > Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] > IANA Registry Reference: [ TBD-at-Registration ] > > Fourth, a new, top-level registry page will be created called "Resource O= riented Lightweight Information Exchange (ROLIE) Parameters" on the IANA Ma= trix at: > > https://www.iana.org/protocols > > On this new registry page, a new registry is to be created called the ROL= IE URN Parameters registry. The new registry will be managed via Specificat= ion Required as defined in [ RFC 8126 ]. > > There are initial registrations in the new registry as follows: > > Name: category:information-type > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:category:information-type > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 8.4 ] > Sub-Registry: None > > Name: > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie: > Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] > Sub-Registry: https://www.iana.org/assignments/rolie/category/information= -type > > Name: property:local > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:local > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 7.4 ] > Sub-Registry: None > > Name: category:local > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:category:local > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 7.1 ] > Sub-Registry: None > > Name: property:content-author-name > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:content-author-name > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 7.4 ] > Sub-Registry: None > > Name: property:content-id > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:content-id > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 7.4 ] > Sub-Registry: None > > Name: property:content-published-date > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:content-published-date > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 7.4 ] > Sub-Registry: None > > Name: property:content-updated-date > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:content-updated-date > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 7.4 ] > Sub-Registry: None > > Fifth, a new registry is to be created called the ROLIE Information Types= registry. > > We note that the authors request that the registry be created in the foll= owing, specific location: > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/rolie/category/information-type > > The registry is to be located on the Registry Page created in step four a= bove. > > The registry is to be managed via Specification Required as defined in [ = RFC 8126 ]. > > We understand that there are no initial registrations in the new registry= . > > Sixth, in the Well-Known URIs registry located at: > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/well-known-uris/ > > a new URI is to be registered as follows: > > URI Suffix: rolie/servicedocument > Change Controller: IETF > Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] > > Because this registry requires Expert Review [RFC8126] for registration, = we've contacted the IESG-designated expert in a separate ticket to request = approval. Expert review should be completed before your document can be app= roved for publication as an RFC. > > Seventh, also in the Well-Known URIs registry located at: > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/well-known-uris/ > > a new URI is to be registered as follows: > > URI Suffix: rolie/categorydocument > Change Controller: IETF > Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] > > Because this registry also requires Expert Review [RFC8126] for registrat= ion, we've contacted the IESG-designated expert in a separate ticket to req= uest approval. Expert review should be completed before your document can b= e approved for publication as an RFC. > > The IANA Services Operator understands that these seven actions are the o= nly ones required to be completed upon approval of this document. > > Note: The actions requested in this document will not be completed until= the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is = only to confirm what actions will be performed. > > > Thank you, > > Sabrina Tanamal > IANA Services Specialist > > (END IANA COMMENTS) > --=20 Best regards, Kathleen From nobody Mon Dec 11 10:39:43 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mile@ietf.org Delivered-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E48E12726E; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 10:39:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mile@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.67.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151301757745.21265.13398439727887117118@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 10:39:37 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [mile] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mile-rolie-15.txt X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 18:39:37 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange WG of the IETF. Title : Resource-Oriented Lightweight Information Exchange Authors : John P. Field Stephen A. Banghart David Waltermire Filename : draft-ietf-mile-rolie-15.txt Pages : 45 Date : 2017-12-11 Abstract: This document defines a resource-oriented approach for security automation information publication, discovery, and sharing. Using this approach, producers may publish, share, and exchange representations of software descriptors, security incidents, attack indicators, software vulnerabilities, configuration checklists, and other security automation information as web-addressable resources. Furthermore, consumers and other stakeholders may access and search this security information as needed, establishing a rapid and on- demand information exchange network for restricted internal use or public access repositories. This specification extends the Atom Publishing Protocol and Atom Syndication Format to transport and share security automation resource representations. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mile-rolie/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mile-rolie-15 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mile-rolie-15 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mile-rolie-15 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Dec 11 10:39:51 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mile@ietf.org Delivered-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B787128799; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 10:39:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: , , , "Nancy Cam-Winget" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.67.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151301757763.21265.13691787772947515021.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 10:39:37 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [mile] New Version Notification - draft-ietf-mile-rolie-15.txt X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 18:39:38 -0000 A new version (-15) has been submitted for draft-ietf-mile-rolie: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mile-rolie-15.txt The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mile-rolie/ Diff from previous version: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mile-rolie-15 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the diff is available at tools.ietf.org. IETF Secretariat. 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The "property:local" registration has bee= n removed. We feel all other issues in the ART review have been addressed. [1] Thanks, Stephen Banghart [1] https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mile/current/msg02344.html=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: mile [mailto:mile-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- > drafts@ietf.org > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 1:40 PM > To: mile@ietf.org; mile-chairs@tools.ietf.org; > Kathleen.Moriarty.ietf@gmail.com; Nancy Cam-Winget > > Subject: [mile] New Version Notification - draft-ietf-mile-rolie-15.txt >=20 >=20 > A new version (-15) has been submitted for draft-ietf-mile-rolie: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.i > etf.org%2Finternet-drafts%2Fdraft-ietf-mile-rolie- > 15.txt&data=3D02%7C01%7Cstephen.banghart%40nist.gov%7Cbd82e17f53e343 > e81fef08d540c696c4%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C0%7C > 636486144031659314&sdata=3Df7RleN%2FylTS8AEb8Hjc3Sul6XqKogPSae%2F%2 > B8dAncbmA%3D&reserved=3D0 >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fdatatr > acker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdraft-ietf-mile- > rolie%2F&data=3D02%7C01%7Cstephen.banghart%40nist.gov%7Cbd82e17f53e > 343e81fef08d540c696c4%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C0 > %7C636486144031659314&sdata=3DI4KFO0s227BSSKcvC4iVl31g76OtbmPjM2KQ > fAmaFj8%3D&reserved=3D0 >=20 > Diff from previous version: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.i > etf.org%2Frfcdiff%3Furl2%3Ddraft-ietf-mile-rolie- > 15&data=3D02%7C01%7Cstephen.banghart%40nist.gov%7Cbd82e17f53e343e81 > fef08d540c696c4%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C0%7C636 > 486144031659314&sdata=3D8u8CgWlY4zGtqTxKK1cG4%2Fu5CIMC0MF0RqcUXU > uWF5k%3D&reserved=3D0 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion > until the diff is available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > IETF Secretariat. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > mile mailing list > mile@ietf.org > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.i > etf.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fmile&data=3D02%7C01%7Cstephen.banghar > t%40nist.gov%7Cbd82e17f53e343e81fef08d540c696c4%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797 > a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C0%7C636486144031659314&sdata=3Dfk6vvynWJgxk > tHNOBFJuQuNbCvBwFbrUpEkAsszwMnU%3D&reserved=3D0 From nobody Tue Dec 12 08:21:43 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A346A1276AF; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:58:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.979 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.979 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, MISSING_HEADERS=1.021, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dS3uF6zRx9cl; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:58:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp01.icann.org (smtp01.icann.org [192.0.46.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8CDD128B91; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:58:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from request3.lax.icann.org (request1.lax.icann.org [10.32.11.221]) by smtp01.icann.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04BFE08A4; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 23:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by request3.lax.icann.org (Postfix, from userid 48) id B706DC20665; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 23:58:02 +0000 (UTC) RT-Owner: Nobody From: "Sabrina Tanamal via RT" Reply-To: drafts-lastcall@iana.org In-Reply-To: References: <150670057250.14181.17753271478518577817.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Message-ID: X-RT-Loop-Prevention: IANA X-RT-Ticket: IANA #992294 X-Managed-BY: RT 4.2.9 (http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/) X-RT-Originator: sabrina.tanamal@icann.org CC: mile@ietf.org, david.waltermire@nist.gov, iesg@ietf.org, ekr@rtfm.com, mile-chairs@tools.ietf.org, stephen.banghart@nist.gov, kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com, ncamwing@cisco.com, jfield@pivotal.io, takeshi_takahashi@nict.go.jp Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-RT-Original-Encoding: utf-8 Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 23:58:02 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:21:42 -0800 Subject: [mile] [IANA #992294] Re: Last Call: (Resource-Oriented Lightweight Information Exchange) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 23:58:07 -0000 Hi Kathleen, It looks like we're waiting for the IETF XML experts and chairs to approve. One of the IETF XML experts wrote, "I reviewed this document and provided feedback to the working group a few weeks ago, but that discussion stalled. I've poked that thread and will see whether anything has resolved despite me not seeing any activity." Thank you, Sabrina Tanamal IANA Services Specialist On Mon Dec 11 17:20:04 2017, kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com wrote: > Dear IANA, > > The IANA state on this document, says, Version Changed, review needed. > Could I get a status update please? > > Thank you, > Kathleen > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Sabrina Tanamal via RT > wrote: > > (BEGIN IANA COMMENTS) > > > > IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: > > > > The IANA Services Operator has completed its review of draft-ietf- > > mile-rolie-10. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let > > us know. > > > > The IANA Services Operator understands that, upon approval of this > > document, there are seven actions which we must complete. > > > > First, in the ns registry on the IETF XML registry page located at: > > > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/xml-registry/ > > > > a new namespace will be registered as follows: > > > > ID: rolie-1.0 > > URI: urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:rolie-1.0 > > Filename: [ TBD-at-registration ] > > Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] > > > > Because this registry requires Expert Review [RFC8126] for > > registration, we've contacted the IESG-designated expert in a > > separate ticket to request approval. Expert review should be > > completed before your document can be approved for publication as an > > RFC. > > > > Second, in the schema registry also on the IETF XML registry page > > located at: > > > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/xml-registry/ > > > > a new schema will be registered as follows: > > > > ID: rolie-1.0 > > URI: urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:rolie-1.0 > > Filename: [ TBD-at-registration ] > > Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] > > > > Because this registry also requires Expert Review [RFC8126] for > > registration, we've contacted the IESG-designated expert in a > > separate ticket to request approval. Expert review should be > > completed before your document can be approved for publication as an > > RFC. > > > > Third, in the IETF URN Sub-namespace for Registered Protocol > > Parameter Identifiers registry on the Uniform Resource Name (URN) > > Namespace for IETF Use registry page located at: > > > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/params/ > > > > a new parameter identifier will be registered as follows: > > > > Registered Parameter Identifier: rolie > > Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] > > IANA Registry Reference: [ TBD-at-Registration ] > > > > Fourth, a new, top-level registry page will be created called > > "Resource Oriented Lightweight Information Exchange (ROLIE) > > Parameters" on the IANA Matrix at: > > > > https://www.iana.org/protocols > > > > On this new registry page, a new registry is to be created called the > > ROLIE URN Parameters registry. The new registry will be managed via > > Specification Required as defined in [ RFC 8126 ]. > > > > There are initial registrations in the new registry as follows: > > > > Name: category:information-type > > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:category:information-type > > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 8.4 ] > > Sub-Registry: None > > > > Name: > > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie: > > Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] > > Sub-Registry: > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/rolie/category/information-type > > > > Name: property:local > > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:local > > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 7.4 ] > > Sub-Registry: None > > > > Name: category:local > > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:category:local > > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 7.1 ] > > Sub-Registry: None > > > > Name: property:content-author-name > > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:content-author-name > > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 7.4 ] > > Sub-Registry: None > > > > Name: property:content-id > > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:content-id > > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 7.4 ] > > Sub-Registry: None > > > > Name: property:content-published-date > > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:content-published-date > > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 7.4 ] > > Sub-Registry: None > > > > Name: property:content-updated-date > > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:content-updated-date > > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 7.4 ] > > Sub-Registry: None > > > > Fifth, a new registry is to be created called the ROLIE Information > > Types registry. > > > > We note that the authors request that the registry be created in the > > following, specific location: > > > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/rolie/category/information-type > > > > The registry is to be located on the Registry Page created in step > > four above. > > > > The registry is to be managed via Specification Required as defined > > in [ RFC 8126 ]. > > > > We understand that there are no initial registrations in the new > > registry. > > > > Sixth, in the Well-Known URIs registry located at: > > > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/well-known-uris/ > > > > a new URI is to be registered as follows: > > > > URI Suffix: rolie/servicedocument > > Change Controller: IETF > > Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] > > > > Because this registry requires Expert Review [RFC8126] for > > registration, we've contacted the IESG-designated expert in a > > separate ticket to request approval. Expert review should be > > completed before your document can be approved for publication as an > > RFC. > > > > Seventh, also in the Well-Known URIs registry located at: > > > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/well-known-uris/ > > > > a new URI is to be registered as follows: > > > > URI Suffix: rolie/categorydocument > > Change Controller: IETF > > Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] > > > > Because this registry also requires Expert Review [RFC8126] for > > registration, we've contacted the IESG-designated expert in a > > separate ticket to request approval. Expert review should be > > completed before your document can be approved for publication as an > > RFC. > > > > The IANA Services Operator understands that these seven actions are > > the only ones required to be completed upon approval of this > > document. > > > > Note: The actions requested in this document will not be completed > > until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This > > message is only to confirm what actions will be performed. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Sabrina Tanamal > > IANA Services Specialist > > > > (END IANA COMMENTS) > > From nobody Tue Dec 12 08:21:48 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966D812922E; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 18:29:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AlHB9XjtzTEm; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 18:29:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pf0-x22e.google.com (mail-pf0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17358128E19; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 18:29:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pf0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id j28so13065884pfk.8; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 18:29:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=dmw5gjuf9k8RJ0MIjhFy8OEGrbpKAn/8JxJd4pcEXwA=; b=ULOO7ul9H7NVBTqonKz4gRb4eHFToklL//MlauRZj1Gpi86XLRL4mK4GzIEagwbewT RMAK5KI13DrTRtPgtEJIwQDe/Jgw69UY5X2TNaIMzh9RdRHjOOBGKYlwxbkvX+AjwpLg 8STkVm+S+4NUUyGZ+Eixm3skiOTYNFeDKllnVtHVWPUVdpNRJ6ql2WJEP5YeoLk8Yvx1 MHoazOCc4bep2TPBMrIEXU+OO5dUaqZvvp5RN0t54P+VQ1KmxLVbiXhnWklDBEODOL+3 UP54jbO5F6316DEdU3BnQmrMR7w4eOxpsDivKamQUbgaevcJnLHD7iZ6P34q545rafGf URng== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=dmw5gjuf9k8RJ0MIjhFy8OEGrbpKAn/8JxJd4pcEXwA=; b=Anb6yCHRVVOZ/YPFRc2GA+juuu7nIdJKNNpf0BbXBTux+9TVYZPtKXdMS68z9lHhue DHlJqPQzkDndunoIZzVhN9BIjb8MRjQENBvzwDlmVtunftnXaxos1cMDtk/fIMvubN4R xYkINOLZOiKeYR0HOubxR78t9jBihvPitjL3cTy57mW7YErTjG/brDn1ApzS14IRtnc1 Z8ovvsGErJ5Zu/yH4ViXsCDch+LMNZ8hmLt7tUM7Davi203Un8H1h3jNoBv0Q5nDn7WW Jkn/CShBYuTNk0jm2QgQenJ+c8jJrRSGy8SIs5GuGQ87opbqk6vCgDZfWN0DTelfr32B egfQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mJTLKXOocFY1vZBbEnhGsNIVXBRt55geZyGHeJwHl82rvSPhHsz P//1rQ8P24ARXNvAm6xQLMeFVVrWSu4PX58yN5o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBou3AeyXL4sYl+oFPzOXDL0eRJuc0ISeV7vGDxrgwnDe/NnNfW8Lsw+jPeHAiOrW5NvsiVR+O+yr0XleJopMmtg= X-Received: by 10.84.172.195 with SMTP id n61mr666563plb.78.1513045769551; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 18:29:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.186.208 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 18:28:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <150670057250.14181.17753271478518577817.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Kathleen Moriarty Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:28:49 -0500 Message-ID: To: Pearl Liang via RT Cc: MILE IETF , "Waltermire, David A." , "iesg@ietf.org" , Eric Rescorla , "mile-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "Banghart, Stephen A. (Fed)" , ncamwing@cisco.com, John Field , Takeshi Takahashi Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:21:42 -0800 Subject: Re: [mile] [IANA #992294] Re: Last Call: (Resource-Oriented Lightweight Information Exchange) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 02:29:32 -0000 On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 6:58 PM, Sabrina Tanamal via RT wrote: > Hi Kathleen, > > It looks like we're waiting for the IETF XML experts and chairs to approve. > > One of the IETF XML experts wrote, "I reviewed this document and provided feedback to the working group a few weeks ago, but that discussion stalled. I've poked that thread and will see whether anything has resolved despite me not seeing any activity." The authors have addressed the comments that pertain to the IANA review and a new revision has been posted. If you could nudge, that would be great. Thank you, Kathleen > > Thank you, > > Sabrina Tanamal > IANA Services Specialist > > On Mon Dec 11 17:20:04 2017, kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com wrote: >> Dear IANA, >> >> The IANA state on this document, says, Version Changed, review needed. >> Could I get a status update please? >> >> Thank you, >> Kathleen >> >> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Sabrina Tanamal via RT >> wrote: >> > (BEGIN IANA COMMENTS) >> > >> > IESG/Authors/WG Chairs: >> > >> > The IANA Services Operator has completed its review of draft-ietf- >> > mile-rolie-10. If any part of this review is inaccurate, please let >> > us know. >> > >> > The IANA Services Operator understands that, upon approval of this >> > document, there are seven actions which we must complete. >> > >> > First, in the ns registry on the IETF XML registry page located at: >> > >> > https://www.iana.org/assignments/xml-registry/ >> > >> > a new namespace will be registered as follows: >> > >> > ID: rolie-1.0 >> > URI: urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:rolie-1.0 >> > Filename: [ TBD-at-registration ] >> > Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] >> > >> > Because this registry requires Expert Review [RFC8126] for >> > registration, we've contacted the IESG-designated expert in a >> > separate ticket to request approval. Expert review should be >> > completed before your document can be approved for publication as an >> > RFC. >> > >> > Second, in the schema registry also on the IETF XML registry page >> > located at: >> > >> > https://www.iana.org/assignments/xml-registry/ >> > >> > a new schema will be registered as follows: >> > >> > ID: rolie-1.0 >> > URI: urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:rolie-1.0 >> > Filename: [ TBD-at-registration ] >> > Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] >> > >> > Because this registry also requires Expert Review [RFC8126] for >> > registration, we've contacted the IESG-designated expert in a >> > separate ticket to request approval. Expert review should be >> > completed before your document can be approved for publication as an >> > RFC. >> > >> > Third, in the IETF URN Sub-namespace for Registered Protocol >> > Parameter Identifiers registry on the Uniform Resource Name (URN) >> > Namespace for IETF Use registry page located at: >> > >> > https://www.iana.org/assignments/params/ >> > >> > a new parameter identifier will be registered as follows: >> > >> > Registered Parameter Identifier: rolie >> > Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] >> > IANA Registry Reference: [ TBD-at-Registration ] >> > >> > Fourth, a new, top-level registry page will be created called >> > "Resource Oriented Lightweight Information Exchange (ROLIE) >> > Parameters" on the IANA Matrix at: >> > >> > https://www.iana.org/protocols >> > >> > On this new registry page, a new registry is to be created called the >> > ROLIE URN Parameters registry. The new registry will be managed via >> > Specification Required as defined in [ RFC 8126 ]. >> > >> > There are initial registrations in the new registry as follows: >> > >> > Name: category:information-type >> > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:category:information-type >> > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 8.4 ] >> > Sub-Registry: None >> > >> > Name: >> > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie: >> > Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] >> > Sub-Registry: >> > https://www.iana.org/assignments/rolie/category/information-type >> > >> > Name: property:local >> > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:local >> > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 7.4 ] >> > Sub-Registry: None >> > >> > Name: category:local >> > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:category:local >> > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 7.1 ] >> > Sub-Registry: None >> > >> > Name: property:content-author-name >> > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:content-author-name >> > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 7.4 ] >> > Sub-Registry: None >> > >> > Name: property:content-id >> > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:content-id >> > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 7.4 ] >> > Sub-Registry: None >> > >> > Name: property:content-published-date >> > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:content-published-date >> > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 7.4 ] >> > Sub-Registry: None >> > >> > Name: property:content-updated-date >> > Extension IRI: urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:content-updated-date >> > Reference: [ RFC-to-be Section 7.4 ] >> > Sub-Registry: None >> > >> > Fifth, a new registry is to be created called the ROLIE Information >> > Types registry. >> > >> > We note that the authors request that the registry be created in the >> > following, specific location: >> > >> > https://www.iana.org/assignments/rolie/category/information-type >> > >> > The registry is to be located on the Registry Page created in step >> > four above. >> > >> > The registry is to be managed via Specification Required as defined >> > in [ RFC 8126 ]. >> > >> > We understand that there are no initial registrations in the new >> > registry. >> > >> > Sixth, in the Well-Known URIs registry located at: >> > >> > https://www.iana.org/assignments/well-known-uris/ >> > >> > a new URI is to be registered as follows: >> > >> > URI Suffix: rolie/servicedocument >> > Change Controller: IETF >> > Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] >> > >> > Because this registry requires Expert Review [RFC8126] for >> > registration, we've contacted the IESG-designated expert in a >> > separate ticket to request approval. Expert review should be >> > completed before your document can be approved for publication as an >> > RFC. >> > >> > Seventh, also in the Well-Known URIs registry located at: >> > >> > https://www.iana.org/assignments/well-known-uris/ >> > >> > a new URI is to be registered as follows: >> > >> > URI Suffix: rolie/categorydocument >> > Change Controller: IETF >> > Reference: [ RFC-to-be ] >> > >> > Because this registry also requires Expert Review [RFC8126] for >> > registration, we've contacted the IESG-designated expert in a >> > separate ticket to request approval. Expert review should be >> > completed before your document can be approved for publication as an >> > RFC. >> > >> > The IANA Services Operator understands that these seven actions are >> > the only ones required to be completed upon approval of this >> > document. >> > >> > Note: The actions requested in this document will not be completed >> > until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This >> > message is only to confirm what actions will be performed. >> > >> > >> > Thank you, >> > >> > Sabrina Tanamal >> > IANA Services Specialist >> > >> > (END IANA COMMENTS) >> > > > > -- Best regards, Kathleen From nobody Tue Dec 12 08:21:51 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4F5128E19; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 18:30:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.52 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZEdFO56rd30C; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 18:30:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from alln-iport-6.cisco.com (alln-iport-6.cisco.com [173.37.142.93]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A60B128DF6; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 18:30:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=11640; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1513045855; x=1514255455; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=/JKUINyLL4Li88PgUZUtVDXD0u7GYbhqcHuecNriZkk=; b=fkBJURVVkC+SXPfCh/Stjo0jlXxlcNexnrz4xwZMInS7G7pYcnSCrJqD ZB48+lPQ2kowHLlaZtCL9uYbteY0inFCSU6/COP04B3BFRYHhpqWkTdVz LLwMx5/uFAM8KCB8uGILy5rlst4YX4r+sfqj30mO7C0AwiaFmoSoNJQM3 A=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0DLAABJPi9a/51dJa1aGQEBAQEBAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBAQcBAQEBAYM+ZnQnB4N7iiGPAoF9iHWOFxSCAQojhRgCGoRYPxgBAQEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQFrKIUiAQEBAQIBIxE3DgULAgEIGAICHwcCAgIfERUQAgQBDQWKEAMNCBCoI?= =?us-ascii?q?YIng1aDZg2DJgEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBARgFgQ+CWYILgz8pgXSBDoF?= =?us-ascii?q?JgSGBfSgQF4J+MYIyBZIPkEU9ApAjhHyCFoYSizuKQYMGiGoCERkBgToBHzmBT?= =?us-ascii?q?28VZAGBfoJeKYFOeAGJSIEVAQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.45,393,1508803200"; d="scan'208";a="42820861" Received: from rcdn-core-6.cisco.com ([173.37.93.157]) by alln-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 12 Dec 2017 02:30:53 +0000 Received: from XCH-RTP-014.cisco.com (xch-rtp-014.cisco.com [64.101.220.154]) by rcdn-core-6.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id vBC2UrU9014314 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 12 Dec 2017 02:30:53 GMT Received: from xch-rtp-015.cisco.com (64.101.220.155) by XCH-RTP-014.cisco.com (64.101.220.154) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1320.4; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:30:52 -0500 Received: from xch-rtp-015.cisco.com ([64.101.220.155]) by XCH-RTP-015.cisco.com ([64.101.220.155]) with mapi id 15.00.1320.000; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:30:52 -0500 From: "Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" To: Kathleen Moriarty , Pearl Liang via RT CC: MILE IETF , "Waltermire, David A." , "iesg@ietf.org" , Eric Rescorla , "mile-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "Banghart, Stephen A. 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(Fed)" Cc: "Banghart, Stephen A. (Fed)" , "mile@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mile-rolie.all@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mile] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-mile-rolie-10 X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 23:38:39 -0000 Apologies for delays; travel. On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Waltermire, David A. (Fed) wrote: > I agree that media types would be ideal here, but they are insufficient f= or what we are trying to accomplish in ROLIE. Let's use a ROLIE entry for a= n IODEF resource as an example. A notional example ROLIE entry might look l= ike this: [...] > In the example, the element informs the client that the co= ntent is IODEF v2 content, which can then be used by the client to make a d= ecision to filter or download the content. The client may choose to filter = if it doesn't support IODEF 2.0 as an example. Why would defining "application/iodefv2+xml" be worse than this? It's simpler. It fits with a bunch of other mechanisms. A new, bespoke format that is more complex, yet still inadequate, is strictly worse in my opinion and experience. > A primary reason in my mind is that we are looking for an approach that w= ill map to JSON objects easily. We are working on new drafts for representi= ng ROLIE feeds in JSON and CBOR. In such an approach, use of a URN-based pr= operty table (with indexes for CBOR) provides a path that can be more easil= y translated to JSON as compared to using ns+localname. We are willing to f= orego some constraints in the grammar to make JSON and CBOR an easier propo= sition for this application. I'm not sure that I find this any more persuasive. ns+localname is trivial to map to JSON provided you stick to simple types for values. 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(Fed)" Cc: "Banghart, Stephen A. (Fed)" , "mile@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mile-rolie.all@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-From: Resent-To: jfield@pivotal.io, stephen.banghart@nist.gov, david.waltermire@nist.gov, ncamwing@cisco.com, takeshi_takahashi@nict.go.jp, Kathleen.Moriarty.ietf@gmail.com, ekr@rtfm.com, mile-chairs@tools.ietf.org, mile@ietf.org, Nancy Cam-Winget Resent-Message-Id: <20171212233839.797C7126C19@ietfa.amsl.com> Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 15:38:39 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mile] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-mile-rolie-10 X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 23:38:39 -0000 Apologies for delays; travel. On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Waltermire, David A. (Fed) wrote: > I agree that media types would be ideal here, but they are insufficient f= or what we are trying to accomplish in ROLIE. Let's use a ROLIE entry for a= n IODEF resource as an example. A notional example ROLIE entry might look l= ike this: [...] > In the example, the element informs the client that the co= ntent is IODEF v2 content, which can then be used by the client to make a d= ecision to filter or download the content. The client may choose to filter = if it doesn't support IODEF 2.0 as an example. Why would defining "application/iodefv2+xml" be worse than this? It's simpler. It fits with a bunch of other mechanisms. A new, bespoke format that is more complex, yet still inadequate, is strictly worse in my opinion and experience. > A primary reason in my mind is that we are looking for an approach that w= ill map to JSON objects easily. We are working on new drafts for representi= ng ROLIE feeds in JSON and CBOR. In such an approach, use of a URN-based pr= operty table (with indexes for CBOR) provides a path that can be more easil= y translated to JSON as compared to using ns+localname. We are willing to f= orego some constraints in the grammar to make JSON and CBOR an easier propo= sition for this application. I'm not sure that I find this any more persuasive. ns+localname is trivial to map to JSON provided you stick to simple types for values. 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(Fed)" Cc: "Banghart, Stephen A. (Fed)" , "mile@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mile-rolie.all@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mile] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-mile-rolie-10 X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 16:38:41 -0000 Hi Dave, I think that you are underestimating the cost of each of these, but it's ultimately your document and your responsibility. I won't continue to try to convince you further :) On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Waltermire, David A. (Fed) wrote: > Martin, > >> Apologies for delays; travel. > > No worries. > >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Waltermire, David A. (Fed) >> wrote: >> > I agree that media types would be ideal here, but they are insufficien= t for what >> we are trying to accomplish in ROLIE. Let's use a ROLIE entry for an IOD= EF >> resource as an example. A notional example ROLIE entry might look like t= his: >> [...] >> > In the example, the element informs the client that the= content >> is IODEF v2 content, which can then be used by the client to make a deci= sion to >> filter or download the content. The client may choose to filter if it do= esn't >> support IODEF 2.0 as an example. >> >> Why would defining "application/iodefv2+xml" be worse than this? It's s= impler. >> It fits with a bunch of other mechanisms. A new, bespoke format that is= more >> complex, yet still inadequate, is strictly worse in my opinion and exper= ience. > > I am agreeing with you that defining "application/iodefv2+xml" is better,= but creating new media types for arbitrary formats is not the responsibili= ty of ROLIE. The specifications for these things should be doing this. What= we are providing through rolie:format is a way to address the less-than-id= eal case of having no specific media type. The consensus of the WG was that= this is needed. > > In cases where a specific media type is provided, we could change the req= uirement making rolie:format optional. This would support the ideal case of= using a media type without the rolie:format element and the less-than-idea= l case of using something like "application/ xml" + rolie:format. We can wo= rk on some text if this sounds like a good compromise. Are you ok with this= approach? > >> > A primary reason in my mind is that we are looking for an approach tha= t will >> map to JSON objects easily. We are working on new drafts for representin= g >> ROLIE feeds in JSON and CBOR. In such an approach, use of a URN-based >> property table (with indexes for CBOR) provides a path that can be more = easily >> translated to JSON as compared to using ns+localname. We are willing to = forego >> some constraints in the grammar to make JSON and CBOR an easier proposit= ion >> for this application. >> >> I'm not sure that I find this any more persuasive. ns+localname is triv= ial to map >> to JSON provided you stick to simple types for values. > > There are pros and cons on both sides of the argument. We have a good tec= hnical rationale for the text in the draft; we are willing to give up some = validation to allow for a clearer path forward with JSON/CBOR. Can we agree= to disagree and move forward on this one? > > Thanks, > Dave From nobody Thu Dec 14 08:38:47 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: expand-draft-ietf-mile-rolie.all@virtual.ietf.org Delivered-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Received: by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 40D5A127337; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 08:38:41 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: xfilter-draft-ietf-mile-rolie.all@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xfilter-draft-ietf-mile-rolie.all@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082CD1273B1; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 08:38:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1gnIBGs-7z1X; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 08:38:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oi0-x22d.google.com (mail-oi0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DECD127337; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 08:38:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oi0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id y75so4299234oie.4; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 08:38:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=14vYOPrje+/9Eft6ZC36kOPNwj/Tlm8XCl3/0SsogDI=; b=u/D+9NA/PC8XogeJOicG11Jynle9adRuw0SMoLuzzi7Yzv3m5Lt9lTOzHmj6r6IxVQ KBOJFB0rZZ0rLeR7hJEbmY4AiYBtO2m7/hKd5x0L56BBlFOz/ePRF+wBIELkOHocl9UO nQqK1nhwZy2eRc1A9l8eZstHeJszKoCypzuo9liK/HtU6WiaycEZFmHMMvRyIvthX2h3 gr8fOqF2y5Ohv1PLD3dXEpB9vVAWV0/Io28t3sQAnsXzToVdf16arjCvs1ka1gQ2fQX0 h4sFdLXUQRuHneOgJrMB7cT9FqoTYEavEvBiZZm63jDA2nYi/4U4WF4AN7MDGplXkiY4 /iPA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=14vYOPrje+/9Eft6ZC36kOPNwj/Tlm8XCl3/0SsogDI=; b=QBK0KJM2Yn3qMef0LgnUSy/eAfepWLBQfsHPXe37IMm6XKM8RadLzc/wEMIU8HJuK/ JNHK8AVGNZfmofgnVLEIEe+FmtjXi0Z5VK4/2RsHgkqG910DRJS6ADqhTrzmvrR1p/UT H5arnayOGNDDlAZCrFFt43esY7oLi7l1fcNyxN/NUo3AxlZj+VDvgZ12CSgKtqroTvkF Qp5ut31sghS2BU6u+Cqm/FQQzU3Yg6PRT7R2Vbl/8K8o5QjOCUvaJrGXamrAETiqGAhx U5b+DFA86ZQ3CeWVQyKgzJgZsxjH2Txvy5+naqWjfmm0D8rw99FLB/EzTlCGaZ5S3/pp nuXg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mIGb7jRkbRk420d0+o2rfqYMJ5sWGNzZasxLg5uUnPbEim4ALUf 3kGKiI+YzKIztjrqM7bD+4lueQjz04yeGn/9PSnD9A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBou3qB1tjPqfcvbaI4kHQ0XBJm5Q1/37h22O8rj+o0E2LSCCl23X+H2+1hnpCMbnIsFF7lbTuqop/tbzukeLcF4= X-Received: by 10.202.166.206 with SMTP id t75mr4965103oij.28.1513269518332; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 08:38:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.8.11 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 08:38:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <150752570618.18384.5615358468704377459@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Martin Thomson Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 10:38:37 -0600 Message-ID: To: "Waltermire, David A. (Fed)" Cc: "Banghart, Stephen A. (Fed)" , "mile@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mile-rolie.all@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-From: Resent-To: jfield@pivotal.io, stephen.banghart@nist.gov, david.waltermire@nist.gov, ncamwing@cisco.com, takeshi_takahashi@nict.go.jp, Kathleen.Moriarty.ietf@gmail.com, ekr@rtfm.com, mile-chairs@tools.ietf.org, mile@ietf.org, Nancy Cam-Winget Resent-Message-Id: <20171214163841.40D5A127337@ietfa.amsl.com> Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 08:38:41 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mile] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-mile-rolie-10 X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 16:38:41 -0000 Hi Dave, I think that you are underestimating the cost of each of these, but it's ultimately your document and your responsibility. I won't continue to try to convince you further :) On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Waltermire, David A. (Fed) wrote: > Martin, > >> Apologies for delays; travel. > > No worries. > >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Waltermire, David A. (Fed) >> wrote: >> > I agree that media types would be ideal here, but they are insufficien= t for what >> we are trying to accomplish in ROLIE. Let's use a ROLIE entry for an IOD= EF >> resource as an example. A notional example ROLIE entry might look like t= his: >> [...] >> > In the example, the element informs the client that the= content >> is IODEF v2 content, which can then be used by the client to make a deci= sion to >> filter or download the content. The client may choose to filter if it do= esn't >> support IODEF 2.0 as an example. >> >> Why would defining "application/iodefv2+xml" be worse than this? It's s= impler. >> It fits with a bunch of other mechanisms. A new, bespoke format that is= more >> complex, yet still inadequate, is strictly worse in my opinion and exper= ience. > > I am agreeing with you that defining "application/iodefv2+xml" is better,= but creating new media types for arbitrary formats is not the responsibili= ty of ROLIE. The specifications for these things should be doing this. What= we are providing through rolie:format is a way to address the less-than-id= eal case of having no specific media type. The consensus of the WG was that= this is needed. > > In cases where a specific media type is provided, we could change the req= uirement making rolie:format optional. This would support the ideal case of= using a media type without the rolie:format element and the less-than-idea= l case of using something like "application/ xml" + rolie:format. We can wo= rk on some text if this sounds like a good compromise. Are you ok with this= approach? > >> > A primary reason in my mind is that we are looking for an approach tha= t will >> map to JSON objects easily. We are working on new drafts for representin= g >> ROLIE feeds in JSON and CBOR. In such an approach, use of a URN-based >> property table (with indexes for CBOR) provides a path that can be more = easily >> translated to JSON as compared to using ns+localname. We are willing to = forego >> some constraints in the grammar to make JSON and CBOR an easier proposit= ion >> for this application. >> >> I'm not sure that I find this any more persuasive. ns+localname is triv= ial to map >> to JSON provided you stick to simple types for values. > > There are pros and cons on both sides of the argument. We have a good tec= hnical rationale for the text in the draft; we are willing to give up some = validation to allow for a clearer path forward with JSON/CBOR. Can we agree= to disagree and move forward on this one? > > Thanks, > Dave From nobody Thu Dec 14 11:13:53 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mile@ietf.org Delivered-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824A21200C1; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 11:13:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mile@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.67.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151327882748.13875.10212247863991411056@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 11:13:47 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [mile] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mile-rolie-16.txt X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 19:13:47 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange WG of the IETF. Title : Resource-Oriented Lightweight Information Exchange Authors : John P. Field Stephen A. Banghart David Waltermire Filename : draft-ietf-mile-rolie-16.txt Pages : 45 Date : 2017-12-14 Abstract: This document defines a resource-oriented approach for security automation information publication, discovery, and sharing. Using this approach, producers may publish, share, and exchange representations of software descriptors, security incidents, attack indicators, software vulnerabilities, configuration checklists, and other security automation information as web-addressable resources. Furthermore, consumers and other stakeholders may access and search this security information as needed, establishing a rapid and on- demand information exchange network for restricted internal use or public access repositories. This specification extends the Atom Publishing Protocol and Atom Syndication Format to transport and share security automation resource representations. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mile-rolie/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mile-rolie-16 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mile-rolie-16 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mile-rolie-16 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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(Fed)" Cc: "Waltermire, David A. (Fed)" , "mile@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mile-rolie.all@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mile] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-mile-rolie-10 X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 19:18:48 -0000 Looks good. Nit: The brace alignment in the relaxng schema in Appendix A is a little strange. On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Banghart, Stephen A. (Fed) wrote: > Martin, > > We've posted a new version (-16) with the rolie:format changes as discussed. Thank you again for your work in reviewing the document, it has been extremely helpful in improving the draft throughout these last several draft iterations. > > Thanks, > Stephen Banghart > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Martin Thomson [mailto:martin.thomson@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 11:39 AM >> To: Waltermire, David A. (Fed) >> Cc: Banghart, Stephen A. (Fed) ; >> mile@ietf.org; draft-ietf-mile-rolie.all@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [mile] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-mile-rolie-10 >> >> Hi Dave, I think that you are underestimating the cost of each of these, but >> it's ultimately your document and your responsibility. I won't continue to try >> to convince you further :) >> >> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Waltermire, David A. (Fed) >> wrote: >> > Martin, >> > >> >> Apologies for delays; travel. >> > >> > No worries. >> > >> >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Waltermire, David A. (Fed) >> >> wrote: >> >> > I agree that media types would be ideal here, but they are >> >> > insufficient for what >> >> we are trying to accomplish in ROLIE. Let's use a ROLIE entry for an >> >> IODEF resource as an example. A notional example ROLIE entry might look >> like this: >> >> [...] >> >> > In the example, the element informs the client that >> >> > the content >> >> is IODEF v2 content, which can then be used by the client to make a >> >> decision to filter or download the content. The client may choose to >> >> filter if it doesn't support IODEF 2.0 as an example. >> >> >> >> Why would defining "application/iodefv2+xml" be worse than this? It's >> simpler. >> >> It fits with a bunch of other mechanisms. A new, bespoke format that >> >> is more complex, yet still inadequate, is strictly worse in my opinion and >> experience. >> > >> > I am agreeing with you that defining "application/iodefv2+xml" is better, >> but creating new media types for arbitrary formats is not the responsibility of >> ROLIE. The specifications for these things should be doing this. What we are >> providing through rolie:format is a way to address the less-than-ideal case of >> having no specific media type. The consensus of the WG was that this is >> needed. >> > >> > In cases where a specific media type is provided, we could change the >> requirement making rolie:format optional. This would support the ideal case >> of using a media type without the rolie:format element and the less-than- >> ideal case of using something like "application/ xml" + rolie:format. We can >> work on some text if this sounds like a good compromise. Are you ok with >> this approach? >> > >> >> > A primary reason in my mind is that we are looking for an approach >> >> > that will >> >> map to JSON objects easily. We are working on new drafts for >> >> representing ROLIE feeds in JSON and CBOR. In such an approach, use >> >> of a URN-based property table (with indexes for CBOR) provides a path >> >> that can be more easily translated to JSON as compared to using >> >> ns+localname. We are willing to forego some constraints in the >> >> grammar to make JSON and CBOR an easier proposition for this >> application. >> >> >> >> I'm not sure that I find this any more persuasive. ns+localname is >> >> trivial to map to JSON provided you stick to simple types for values. >> > >> > There are pros and cons on both sides of the argument. We have a good >> technical rationale for the text in the draft; we are willing to give up some >> validation to allow for a clearer path forward with JSON/CBOR. Can we agree >> to disagree and move forward on this one? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Dave From nobody Thu Dec 14 11:18:55 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: expand-draft-ietf-mile-rolie.all@virtual.ietf.org Delivered-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Received: by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id C2CB9129465; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 11:18:47 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: xfilter-draft-ietf-mile-rolie.all@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xfilter-draft-ietf-mile-rolie.all@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865C8129466; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 11:18:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 88ISIXv-RhC5; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 11:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ot0-x230.google.com (mail-ot0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D19A5129465; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 11:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ot0-x230.google.com with SMTP id y10so5839719otg.10; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 11:18:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=IJ5WVDDzJiaeiSY+IVAqZ2/DXj/qOkWkTFV1SqVocho=; b=grt6bUZ476vMNSofpYfcnGsMHdC1aNu6viyXJ0PAWlE9fezCxh9yontH/7qpstpTOC NYd+gAtTQs1CISTfxbkyOOZEQh3iK4+x08D+h7C+yGtaX98lTcLLxnt6xmMinwpc+A9O 8xTxc0ht9ICPln7SDnaYQETb0KeZ4XOQDKhPPR7gv/GLcM+Ad63XFI38fdOSrb0+nF/G UMNCqZWi/3b3EDC05nrY/q1cV/Z+smb26OY0OogRyb1MsWU54UEDnYkgISplMth2s5GN 0OpkoYKTsin7RCG0g5jnr+kDMxe2ZTeF1VvhV7vuYngtxXifH0b9qsxPbWlf0X5ub3mD qaaA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=IJ5WVDDzJiaeiSY+IVAqZ2/DXj/qOkWkTFV1SqVocho=; b=BKpzar8VcE7jGRSUTB9pPuoB+S/yfWBsgFoBCMHOZte3k4mjSETMJHmbPbTeUhmWNb iZZLs95u8qu3p/WST2JyngT+QA73uvUIeHN3AFXOrVyy9eDTGAh08YPqALbCJ/y7JRZN IzqrmMyOKkFt7GIckVysuY9QfCr4D35P/qprDBeupF+AOL32hvqnR13ENykgboCIMvPe EeZUYIF6AKEkzpWFthXpxqoHW4pBsU0vJSyNmt3UjVjyw5p+6syi6cbnX2mgQJrX+33X f6uiDCXl4K8zGJNsBHSQN+ZQkMX1n+N+uMX1thCNabWS8FWivZxQElRvSfnFU/TwUueS uqKA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mJqI++ly+Dq+z9rYsrBmitVy/lWickEW5Zg0Ki7CE9JWtk32ES6 izkR4b4Zbdp/+prTvBS3PaGeYlBM8N+FedPnIOg2Dg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBouPnAdvp97vRHDpWhVlrXqQFiFyhMTVcNwNRBIGb8yiJThmQoD/cfCnbKmTNn5jc+PnF8dig44MRZWZMPP7K98= X-Received: by 10.157.32.19 with SMTP id n19mr5995861ota.133.1513279116139; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 11:18:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.8.11 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 11:18:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <150752570618.18384.5615358468704377459@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Martin Thomson Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 13:18:35 -0600 Message-ID: To: "Banghart, Stephen A. (Fed)" Cc: "Waltermire, David A. (Fed)" , "mile@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mile-rolie.all@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Resent-From: Resent-To: jfield@pivotal.io, stephen.banghart@nist.gov, david.waltermire@nist.gov, ncamwing@cisco.com, takeshi_takahashi@nict.go.jp, Kathleen.Moriarty.ietf@gmail.com, ekr@rtfm.com, mile-chairs@tools.ietf.org, mile@ietf.org, Nancy Cam-Winget Resent-Message-Id: <20171214191847.C2CB9129465@ietfa.amsl.com> Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 11:18:47 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mile] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-mile-rolie-10 X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 19:18:48 -0000 Looks good. Nit: The brace alignment in the relaxng schema in Appendix A is a little strange. On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Banghart, Stephen A. (Fed) wrote: > Martin, > > We've posted a new version (-16) with the rolie:format changes as discussed. Thank you again for your work in reviewing the document, it has been extremely helpful in improving the draft throughout these last several draft iterations. > > Thanks, > Stephen Banghart > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Martin Thomson [mailto:martin.thomson@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 11:39 AM >> To: Waltermire, David A. (Fed) >> Cc: Banghart, Stephen A. (Fed) ; >> mile@ietf.org; draft-ietf-mile-rolie.all@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [mile] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-mile-rolie-10 >> >> Hi Dave, I think that you are underestimating the cost of each of these, but >> it's ultimately your document and your responsibility. I won't continue to try >> to convince you further :) >> >> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Waltermire, David A. (Fed) >> wrote: >> > Martin, >> > >> >> Apologies for delays; travel. >> > >> > No worries. >> > >> >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Waltermire, David A. (Fed) >> >> wrote: >> >> > I agree that media types would be ideal here, but they are >> >> > insufficient for what >> >> we are trying to accomplish in ROLIE. Let's use a ROLIE entry for an >> >> IODEF resource as an example. A notional example ROLIE entry might look >> like this: >> >> [...] >> >> > In the example, the element informs the client that >> >> > the content >> >> is IODEF v2 content, which can then be used by the client to make a >> >> decision to filter or download the content. The client may choose to >> >> filter if it doesn't support IODEF 2.0 as an example. >> >> >> >> Why would defining "application/iodefv2+xml" be worse than this? It's >> simpler. >> >> It fits with a bunch of other mechanisms. A new, bespoke format that >> >> is more complex, yet still inadequate, is strictly worse in my opinion and >> experience. >> > >> > I am agreeing with you that defining "application/iodefv2+xml" is better, >> but creating new media types for arbitrary formats is not the responsibility of >> ROLIE. The specifications for these things should be doing this. What we are >> providing through rolie:format is a way to address the less-than-ideal case of >> having no specific media type. The consensus of the WG was that this is >> needed. >> > >> > In cases where a specific media type is provided, we could change the >> requirement making rolie:format optional. This would support the ideal case >> of using a media type without the rolie:format element and the less-than- >> ideal case of using something like "application/ xml" + rolie:format. We can >> work on some text if this sounds like a good compromise. Are you ok with >> this approach? >> > >> >> > A primary reason in my mind is that we are looking for an approach >> >> > that will >> >> map to JSON objects easily. We are working on new drafts for >> >> representing ROLIE feeds in JSON and CBOR. In such an approach, use >> >> of a URN-based property table (with indexes for CBOR) provides a path >> >> that can be more easily translated to JSON as compared to using >> >> ns+localname. We are willing to forego some constraints in the >> >> grammar to make JSON and CBOR an easier proposition for this >> application. >> >> >> >> I'm not sure that I find this any more persuasive. ns+localname is >> >> trivial to map to JSON provided you stick to simple types for values. >> > >> > There are pros and cons on both sides of the argument. We have a good >> technical rationale for the text in the draft; we are willing to give up some >> validation to allow for a clearer path forward with JSON/CBOR. Can we agree >> to disagree and move forward on this one? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Dave From nobody Thu Dec 14 12:13:05 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4391D127286; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 12:13:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nistgov.onmicrosoft.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pIfTh_D4uqPp; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 12:13:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from gcc01-dm2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-dm2gcc01on0119.outbound.protection.outlook.com [23.103.201.119]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C74D1200C1; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 12:13:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nistgov.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector1-nist-gov; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=JRrVt3gfLGMxwVuQxwjltkWJxmxIJCVrbFt+wI58m4c=; b=ingRddBnvtYXF4/U5z09Hf8SfCHfmnyekcLsaLIMM/p1Y3HEt44xx2xyb2lNSWNAdeDQMaxJQGSecZFpnUli4chFUypKRbh0+bFFg6ontRMGMz4LiYlft0bsrBOU5nlwzVxIBLc7Sq+AMVDu9+TQH3LbYNmLQ1vtV+23vtQgIb0= Received: from CY4PR09MB1495.namprd09.prod.outlook.com (10.173.191.141) by CY4PR09MB1496.namprd09.prod.outlook.com (10.173.191.142) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P256) id 15.20.302.9; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 20:12:59 +0000 Received: from CY4PR09MB1495.namprd09.prod.outlook.com ([10.173.191.141]) by CY4PR09MB1495.namprd09.prod.outlook.com ([10.173.191.141]) with mapi id 15.20.0302.014; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 20:12:59 +0000 From: "Waltermire, David A. 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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.67.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: The IESG , ncamwing@cisco.com, mile-chairs@tools.ietf.org, mile@ietf.org, Kathleen.Moriarty.ietf@gmail.com, mile-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-mile-rolie@ietf.org, Nancy Cam-Winget , rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <151337414403.30411.9251104808657940862.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 13:42:24 -0800 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 13:42:57 -0800 Subject: [mile] Protocol Action: 'Resource-Oriented Lightweight Information Exchange' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-mile-rolie-16.txt) X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 21:42:24 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Resource-Oriented Lightweight Information Exchange' (draft-ietf-mile-rolie-16.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Kathleen Moriarty and Eric Rescorla. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mile-rolie/ Technical Summary This document describes a Resource-Oriented Lightweight Information Exchange (ROLIE). Based on a RESTful architecture, security resources are expected to be maintained in a web-accessible repository structured as Atom Syndication Format (RFC 4287) feeds. The document details extensions to AtomPub (RFC 5023) and Atom Syndication Format (RFC 4287) to facilitate the sharing of information relevant to security applications. Working Group Summary There is solid consensus in the WG for this draft. Document Quality There are implementations and use of this draft. There was several revisions of the draft resulting from feedback and agreement on the updates. Personnel Nancy Cam-Winget is acting as the Document Shepherd. Kathleen is the Responsible Area Director. The IANA Expert(s) for the registries in this document are David Waltermire and Stephen Banghart. IANA Note The following new registry entry titled "Resource Oriented Lightweight Information Exchange (ROLIE) Parameters" is requested with Specification required and Designated Expert review per RFC8126. The specification adds a new entry to the "IETF URN Sub-namespace for Registered Protocol Parameter Identifiers" to define the ROLIE 1.0 as a namespace. Two new registrations are also added to the “Well-Known URI” to add the URI suffixes “rolie/servicedocument” and “rolie/categorydocument”. From nobody Fri Dec 15 14:05:10 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mile@ietf.org Delivered-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EF8128CFF; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 14:05:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: , , , , , , "Nancy Cam-Winget" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.67.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151337550919.12802.2418852145487924890.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 14:05:09 -0800 From: IETF Secretariat Archived-At: Subject: [mile] Datatracker State Update Notice: X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 22:05:09 -0000 IANA action state changed to "In Progress" Datatracker URL: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mile-rolie/ From nobody Thu Dec 21 11:11:28 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 048AE124C27 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 11:11:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.941 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.941 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, MISSING_HEADERS=1.021, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gcYPFmbxzOjH for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 11:11:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp01.icann.org (smtp01.icann.org [192.0.46.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6332F124BE8 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 11:11:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from request3.lax.icann.org (request1.lax.icann.org [10.32.11.221]) by smtp01.icann.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97648E0A6E; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:11:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by request3.lax.icann.org (Postfix, from userid 48) id 5A69BC20677; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:11:24 +0000 (UTC) RT-Owner: sabrina.tanamal From: "Sabrina Tanamal via RT" Reply-To: drafts-approval@iana.org In-Reply-To: <151337414414.30411.4182876559542343151.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <151337414414.30411.4182876559542343151.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Message-ID: X-RT-Loop-Prevention: IANA X-RT-Ticket: IANA #992871 X-Managed-BY: RT 4.2.9 (http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/) X-RT-Originator: sabrina.tanamal@icann.org CC: jfield@pivotal.io, stephen.banghart@nist.gov, david.waltermire@nist.gov, ncamwing@cisco.com, takeshi_takahashi@nict.go.jp, Kathleen.Moriarty.ietf@gmail.com, ekr@rtfm.com, mile-chairs@tools.ietf.org, mile@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-RT-Original-Encoding: utf-8 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:11:24 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: [mile] [IANA #992871] Protocol Action: 'Resource-Oriented Lightweight Information Exchange' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-mile-rolie-16.txt) X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:11:27 -0000 Dear Authors, The schema provided in Appendix A doesn't appear to be validating correctly for us. The page online displayed the following errors: This page contains the following errors: error on line 1 at column 1: Document is empty Below is a rendering of the page up to the first error. -- Are there any changes that need to be made in the document? If so, would you want to send us a revised schema before the changes are made in the document? Thank you, Sabrina Tanamal IANA Services Specialist From nobody Thu Dec 21 12:05:09 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mile@ietf.org Delivered-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C9512700F; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 12:05:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: , , , , , , "Nancy Cam-Winget" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.68.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151388670740.13968.8508660184607682839.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 12:05:07 -0800 From: IETF Secretariat Archived-At: Subject: [mile] Datatracker State Update Notice: X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 20:05:07 -0000 IANA action state changed to "Waiting on Authors" Datatracker URL: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mile-rolie/ From nobody Thu Dec 21 22:46:22 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mile@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C534512D810 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 22:46:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.941 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.941 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, MISSING_HEADERS=1.021, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0Va9Gk9k52jQ for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 22:46:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp01.icann.org (smtp01.icann.org [192.0.46.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8628126FDC for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 22:46:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from request3.lax.icann.org (request1.lax.icann.org [10.32.11.221]) by smtp01.icann.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F87E04FD; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 06:46:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by request3.lax.icann.org (Postfix, from userid 48) id 52140C20678; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 06:46:17 +0000 (UTC) RT-Owner: sabrina.tanamal From: "Sabrina Tanamal via RT" Reply-To: drafts-approval@iana.org In-Reply-To: <151337414414.30411.4182876559542343151.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <151337414414.30411.4182876559542343151.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Message-ID: X-RT-Loop-Prevention: IANA X-RT-Ticket: IANA #992871 X-Managed-BY: RT 4.2.9 (http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/) X-RT-Originator: sabrina.tanamal@icann.org CC: jfield@pivotal.io, stephen.banghart@nist.gov, david.waltermire@nist.gov, ncamwing@cisco.com, takeshi_takahashi@nict.go.jp, Kathleen.Moriarty.ietf@gmail.com, ekr@rtfm.com, mile-chairs@tools.ietf.org, mile@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-RT-Original-Encoding: utf-8 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 06:46:17 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: [mile] [IANA #992871] Protocol Action: 'Resource-Oriented Lightweight Information Exchange' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-mile-rolie-16.txt) X-BeenThere: mile@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange, IODEF extensions and RID exchanges" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 06:46:21 -0000 Dear Authors, ATTENTION: A RESPONSE TO THIS MESSAGE IS NEEDED While we're waiting for your response regarding the schema, could you review the other actions in this document and confirm they have been completed correctly? draft-ietf-mile-rolie-16 ACTION 1: We've added the following entry to the IETF XML ns registry: ID: rolie-1.0 URI:urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:rolie-1.0 Filename: ns/rolie-1.0.txt Reference: [RFC-ietf-mile-rolie-16] Please see https://www.iana.org/assignments/xml-registry ACTION 2: We've added the following entry to the IETF XML schema registry: ID: rolie-1.0 URI: urn:ietf:params:xml:schema:rolie-1.0 Filename: schema/rolie-1.0.xsd Reference: [RFC-ietf-mile-rolie-16] Please see https://www.iana.org/assignments/xml-registry ACTION 3: We've added the following entry to the IETF URN Sub-namespace for Registered Protocol Parameter Identifiers registry Registered Parameter Identifier: rolie Reference: [RFC-ietf-mile-rolie-16] IANA Registry Reference: [http://www.iana.org/assignments/rolie] Please see https://www.iana.org/assignments/params ACTION 4: We've created the following registries under the heading "Resource Oriented Lightweight Information Exchange (ROLIE) URN Parameters" Resource Oriented Lightweight Information Exchange (ROLIE) URN Parameters ROLIE URN Parameters Registration Procedure(s) Specification Required Expert(s) Unassigned Reference [RFC-ietf-mile-rolie-16] Name Extension URI Reference Sub-Registry category:information-type urn:ietf:params:rolie:category:information-type [RFC-ietf-mile-rolie-16, Section 8.4] [https://www.iana.org/assignments/rolie/rolie.xhtml#information-type] property:content-author-name urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:content-author-name [RFC-ietf-mile-rolie-16, Section 7.4] None property:content-id urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:content-id [RFC-ietf-mile-rolie-16, Section 7.4] None property:content-published-date urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:content-published-date [RFC-ietf-mile-rolie-16, Section 7.4] None property:content-updated-date urn:ietf:params:rolie:property:content-updated-date [RFC-ietf-mile-rolie-16, Section 7.4] None ROLIE Information Types Registration Procedure(s) Specification Required Expert(s) Unassigned Reference [RFC-ietf-mile-rolie-16] No registrations at this time. Please see https://www.iana.org/assignments/rolie The updated list of Protocol Registries is available here: http://www.iana.org/protocols/ Once we receive your confirmation, we'll notify the RFC Editor that the actions are complete. If a team of authors is responsible for the document, and the actions have been performed correctly, please send a single confirmation message. We'll update any references to this document in the registries when the RFC Editor notifies us that they've assigned an RFC number. Best regards, Sabrina Tanamal IANA Services Specialist