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Extended draft paper submission: HPCNCS-09 call for papers
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This Extended Call for Papers for the 2009 International Conference on High=
 Performance Computing, Networking and Communication Systems (HPCNCS-09) (w=
ebsite: http://www.PromoteResearch.org ) is for those who didn't get a chan=
ce to submit the papers for the earlier call for papers. The papers receive=
d and accepted in response to this extended call for papers will be include=
d in the final version of the respective conference proceedings. These proc=
eedings will be either ready by the time of the conference (i.e., they will=
 be available during the conference) or soon after the conference (before t=
he end of August 2009), based how fast the proceedings can be prepared.=20
Note: If you have already submitted a paper (whether accepted or rejected o=
r currently under review) for MULTICONF-09, please DO NOT submit that paper=
 again to this extended call for papers.=20

IMPORTANT DATES:=20
Draft paper submission date: May 11, 2009=20
Acceptance/rejection decision: May 21, 2009
Camera ready paper and copyright and pre-registration due: May 28, 2009
Conference dates: July 13-16, 2009
=A0
=A0
HPCNCS-09 will be held during July 13-16 2009 in Orlando, FL, USA. We invit=
e draft paper submissions. The conference will take place at the same time =
and venue where several other international conferences are taking place. T=
he other conferences include:
=B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 International Conference on Artificial Intellig=
ence and Pattern Recognition (AIPR-09)=20
=B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 International Conference on Automation, Robotic=
s and Control Systems (ARCS-09)
=B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 International Conference on Bioinformatics, Com=
putational Biology, Genomics and Chemoinformatics (BCBGC-09)=20
=B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 International Conference on Enterprise Informat=
ion Systems and Web Technologies (EISWT-09)
=B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 International Conference on Information Securit=
y and Privacy (ISP-09)
=B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 International Conference on Recent Advances in =
Information Technology and Applications (RAITA-09)
=B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 International Conference on Software Engineerin=
g Theory and Practice (SETP-09)=20
=B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 International Conference on Theory and Applicat=
ions of Computational Science (TACS-09)
=B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 International Conference on Theoretical and Mat=
hematical Foundations of Computer Science (TMFCS-09)
=A0
The website http://www.PromoteResearch.org contains more details.
=A0
Sincerely
John Edward
Publicity committee
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E_LINK4></A><A name=3DOLE_LINK3><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK4"><FO=
NT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman">Extended draft paper submission: HPCNC=
S-09 call for papers</FONT></SPAN></A></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3"><S=
PAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK4"><?xml:namespace prefix =3D o ns =3D "=
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s New Roman">&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: O=
LE_LINK4"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT size=3D3><SPAN class=3Dstyle=
4>This Extended Call for Papers for the </SPAN>2009 <SPAN style=3D"COLOR: b=
lack">International Conference on High Performance Computing, Networking an=
d Communication Systems (HPCNCS-09) </SPAN>(website: </FONT></FONT></SPAN><=
/SPAN><A href=3D"http://www.promoteresearch.org/"><FONT face=3D"Times New R=
oman"><FONT size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D=
"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK4">http://www.PromoteResearch.org</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN=
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</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></A><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3"><SP=
AN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK4"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT s=
ize=3D3> ) <SPAN class=3Dstyle4>is for those who didn't get a chance to sub=
mit the papers for the earlier call for papers. The papers received and acc=
epted in response to this
 extended call for papers will be included in the final version of the resp=
ective conference proceedings. These proceedings will be either ready by th=
e time of the conference (i.e., they will be available during the conferenc=
e) or soon after the conference (before the end of August 2009), based how =
fast the proceedings can be prepared. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></=
DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: auto 0in" class=3Dstyle41><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: =
OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK4"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><FONT size=3D3><STRONG>Note:</STRONG> If you have already submitted =
a paper (whether accepted or rejected or currently under review) for MULTIC=
ONF-09, please DO NOT submit that paper again to this extended call for pap=
ers. </FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: auto 0in" class=3Dstyle41><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: =
OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK4"><BR><STRONG><FONT size=
=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman">IMPORTANT DATES: </FONT></STRONG></SPAN></SPA=
N></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: auto 0in" class=3Dstyle41><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: =
OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK4"><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"T=
imes New Roman">Draft paper submission date: May 11, 2009 <BR>Acceptance/re=
jection decision: May 21, 2009<BR>Camera ready paper and copyright and pre-=
registration due: May 28, 2009<BR>Conference dates: July 13-16, 2009</FONT>=
</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3"><S=
PAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK4"><o:p><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New=
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<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3"><S=
PAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK4"><o:p><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New=
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<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3"><S=
PAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK4"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT =
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black">HPCNCS-09 </SPAN>will be held during =
July 13-16 2009 in Orlando, FL, USA. We invite draft paper submissions. The=
 conference will take place at the same time and venue where several other =
international conferences are taking place. The other conferences include:<=
SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN><=
/DIV>
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evel1 lfo1"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-book=
mark: OLE_LINK4"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: black; mso-fare=
ast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol"><SPAN style=3D"mso-l=
ist: Ignore"><FONT size=3D3>=B7</FONT><SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New R=
oman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPA=
N><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black=
">International Conference on Artificial Intelligence and Pattern Recogniti=
on (AIPR-09)</SPAN> <SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT><=
/FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<P style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l0 l=
evel1 lfo1"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-book=
mark: OLE_LINK4"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: black; mso-fare=
ast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol"><SPAN style=3D"mso-l=
ist: Ignore"><FONT size=3D3>=B7</FONT><SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New R=
oman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPA=
N><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT size=3D=
3>International Conference on Automation, Robotics and Control Systems (ARC=
S-09)<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<P style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l0 l=
evel1 lfo1"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-book=
mark: OLE_LINK4"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: black; mso-fare=
ast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol"><SPAN style=3D"mso-l=
ist: Ignore"><FONT size=3D3>=B7</FONT><SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New R=
oman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPA=
N><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT size=3D=
3>International Conference on Bioinformatics, Computational Biology, Genomi=
cs and Chemoinformatics (BCBGC-09) <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN><=
/SPAN></DIV>
<P style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l0 l=
evel1 lfo1"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-book=
mark: OLE_LINK4"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: black; mso-fare=
ast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol"><SPAN style=3D"mso-l=
ist: Ignore"><FONT size=3D3>=B7</FONT><SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New R=
oman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPA=
N><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT size=3D=
3>International Conference on Enterprise Information Systems and Web Techno=
logies (EISWT-09)<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<P style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l0 l=
evel1 lfo1"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-book=
mark: OLE_LINK4"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: black; mso-fare=
ast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol"><SPAN style=3D"mso-l=
ist: Ignore"><FONT size=3D3>=B7</FONT><SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New R=
oman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPA=
N><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT size=3D=
3>International Conference on Information Security and Privacy (ISP-09)<o:p=
></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<P style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l0 l=
evel1 lfo1"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-book=
mark: OLE_LINK4"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: black; mso-fare=
ast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol"><SPAN style=3D"mso-l=
ist: Ignore"><FONT size=3D3>=B7</FONT><SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New R=
oman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPA=
N><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT size=3D=
3>International Conference on Recent Advances in Information Technology and=
 Applications (RAITA-09)<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV=
>
<P style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l0 l=
evel1 lfo1"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-book=
mark: OLE_LINK4"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: black; mso-fare=
ast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol"><SPAN style=3D"mso-l=
ist: Ignore"><FONT size=3D3>=B7</FONT><SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New R=
oman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPA=
N><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT size=3D=
3>International Conference on Software Engineering Theory and Practice (SET=
P-09) <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<P style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l0 l=
evel1 lfo1"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-book=
mark: OLE_LINK4"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: black; mso-fare=
ast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol"><SPAN style=3D"mso-l=
ist: Ignore"><FONT size=3D3>=B7</FONT><SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New R=
oman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPA=
N><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT size=3D=
3>International Conference on Theory and Applications of Computational Scie=
nce (TACS-09)<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<P style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l0 l=
evel1 lfo1"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-book=
mark: OLE_LINK4"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: black; mso-fare=
ast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol"><SPAN style=3D"mso-l=
ist: Ignore"><FONT size=3D3>=B7</FONT><SPAN style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New R=
oman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPA=
N><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"><FONT size=3D3><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman=
">International Conference on Theoretical and Mathematical Foundations of C=
omputer Science (TMFCS-09)<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></D=
IV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookm=
ark: OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK4"><o:p><FONT size=3D3=
 face=3D"Times New Roman">&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookm=
ark: OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK4"><FONT size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman">The website </FONT></SPAN></SPAN><A href=3D"http://www=
..promoteresearch.org/"><FONT size=3D3><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN =
style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK4">h=
ttp://www.PromoteResearch.org</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE=
_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK4"></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT=
></A><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: O=
LE_LINK4"><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"> contains more details.</=
FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookm=
ark: OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK4"><o:p><FONT size=3D3=
 face=3D"Times New Roman">&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookm=
ark: OLE_LINK3"><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK4"><FONT size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman">Sincerely</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV><SPAN style=3D"mso=
-bookmark: OLE_LINK4"></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3"></SPAN=
>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"T=
imes New Roman">John Edward</FONT></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"T=
imes New Roman">Publicity committee</FONT></DIV>
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Hi, all,

During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
the multiple tunnel support and flow movement, as described in
these two drafts:

draft-gundavelli-mip4-multiple-tunnel-support-00.txt
draft-tsirtsis-mip4-flowmove-01.txt

The sense of the room seemed to be that we should combine these
two drafts and take the result on as a new work item.

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or disagree, and state your reasons why.

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Hi, all,

During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
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draft-doswald-robert-mip4-btn-fmipv4-00.txt

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Hi, all,

During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
Home Agent Assisted Route Optimization, as described in this
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draft-makela-mip4-nemo-haaro-03.txt

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-Pete

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Hi, all,

During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
the Bulk Revocation work, as described in this draft:

draft-acee-mip4-bulk-revocation-01.txt

There was some support for this work during the meeting, but
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discusion of the need for this before taking it on as a work
item.

Please, if you support this work item, respond to this message
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Hi, all,

During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
a draft describing how to negotiate GRE Keys for when GRE tunneling
is used with Mobile IPv4, as described in this draft:

draft-yegani-gre-key-extension-03.txt

The sense of the room was that we should adopt this draft as
a new work item.

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Hi, all,

During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed the way forward for
host configuration with Mobile IPv4.  On the table are the following
drafts:

draft-ietf-mip4-gen-ext-04.txt
draft-deng-mip4-host-configuration-00.txt
draft-chakrabarti-mip4-mcbc-03.txt

There was an involved discussion during the meeting on what to
do.  The point was raised that some SDOs are already extending
mip4 with VSEs to do host configuration, and that some support
is needed for non-DHCP clients.  Issues with the handling of
the broadcast DHCPDISCOVER on the home link were also raised,
and some people thought that the current specifications would
require the home agent to relay every DHCPDISCOVER to every
connected mobile node.  This clearly would be unacceptable.

However, we don't want to go creating too many mechanisms for
host configuration that would require maintenance of mip4 every
time we add a new configuration option.

One proposal put forth by George at the meeting was to do one
extension to mip4 to carry a unicast address of a DHCP server,
and then run DHCPINFORM directly between the mobile host and=20
that server using unicast messages.

Is this the most viable way forward?  Please respond to this
note with a message saying whether you agree/disagree with this
approach, and state your reasons why.

Note that there was also support for the multicast-broadcast
enhancement draft independent of DHCP.  I will create a separate
thread to discuss whether to take on that work in our rechartering
effort.

-Pete

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Hi, all,

During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
a draft describing support for Ethernet service to a mobile node,
as described in this draft:

draft-wu-mip4-ether-00.txt

The sense of the room seemed to be that we NOT take on this=20
as a work item at this time.

This message is a request to confirm/reject this approach.  Please
respond to this e-mail with an indication of whether you agree
or disagree, and state your reasons why.

-Pete

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Hi, all,

This is a call for consensus to see whether we want to adopt
the IPv4 Mobility Extension for Multicast and Broadcast Packets,
as described in the following draft:

draft-chakrabarti-mip4-mcbc-03.txt

Please respond with a message stating whether you support or oppose
this action, and your reasons why.

-Pete

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Hello, all

I support this work, but just want to point out there are another
related draft avilable before at
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-deng-multimob-mip4-00

Thanks

-Hui

2009/5/5 McCann Peter-A001034 <pete.mccann@motorola.com>:
> Hi, all,
>
> This is a call for consensus to see whether we want to adopt
> the IPv4 Mobility Extension for Multicast and Broadcast Packets,
> as described in the following draft:
>
> draft-chakrabarti-mip4-mcbc-03.txt
>
> Please respond with a message stating whether you support or oppose
> this action, and your reasons why.
>
> -Pete
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> Supplemental site: http://www.mip4.org/
>

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Hi, all

I support this work, since it is what mip4 is lacking at the moment.

-Hui

2009/5/5 McCann Peter-A001034 <pete.mccann@motorola.com>:
> Hi, all,
>
> During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
> a draft describing how to negotiate GRE Keys for when GRE tunneling
> is used with Mobile IPv4, as described in this draft:
>
> draft-yegani-gre-key-extension-03.txt
>
> The sense of the room was that we should adopt this draft as
> a new work item.
>
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Hi, all

I support this work since there are enough interest to work on it.

-Hui

2009/5/5 McCann Peter-A001034 <pete.mccann@motorola.com>:
> Hi, all,
>
> During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
> the multiple tunnel support and flow movement, as described in
> these two drafts:
>
> draft-gundavelli-mip4-multiple-tunnel-support-00.txt
> draft-tsirtsis-mip4-flowmove-01.txt
>
> The sense of the room seemed to be that we should combine these
> two drafts and take the result on as a new work item.
>
> This message is a request to confirm/reject this approach. =A0Please
> respond to this e-mail with an indication of whether you agree
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>
> -Pete
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Hello Pete,

GRE as a tunneling mechanism is supported by Mobile IPv4 specification.
Adding a dynamic mechanism for exchanging the GRE keys using the MIP4
signaling is very useful and allows the identification of different
flows based on the GRE key.

Therefore, I support this to be adopted as a work item.

Regards,
Ahmad
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Support too. =20

I have one question: does it cover HMIP domain (rfc4857) yet?

B.R.
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> Hi, all
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> I support this work since there are enough interest to work on it.
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> -Hui
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> 2009/5/5 McCann Peter-A001034 <pete.mccann@motorola.com>:
> > Hi, all,
> >
> > During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
> > the multiple tunnel support and flow movement, as described in
> > these two drafts:
> >
> > draft-gundavelli-mip4-multiple-tunnel-support-00.txt
> > draft-tsirtsis-mip4-flowmove-01.txt
> >
> > The sense of the room seemed to be that we should combine these
> > two drafts and take the result on as a new work item.
> >
> > This message is a request to confirm/reject this approach. =A0Please
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> >
> > -Pete
> >
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Hello

I support this work. 
The emulated Ethernet over fixed IP infrastructure had be 
widely deployed as rfc4448 and rfc4719, etc. 
In fixed and mobile convergence network, it is possible that
mobile network infrastructure could also offer the emulated 
Ethernet service.
For example, Ethernet service traversing WiMAX network is 
described in 01029_r001_NWG_ETH_Srvs_R1-5_Stage2_
Amendment_Rel_1[1].5_v1.0.2_V&V INTERIM Draft.doc from 
http://members.wimaxforum.org/apps/org/workgroup/nwg/
documents.php.

 
B.R.  /Yungui
  

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> Hi, all,
> 
> During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
> a draft describing support for Ethernet service to a mobile node,
> as described in this draft:
> 
> draft-wu-mip4-ether-00.txt
> 
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Hi all,

I support this work since there is enough interest and also it is very
useful.

BR,
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> Hi, all,
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> During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
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Hi,
I support work on this topic as it's a currently gap in MIP4.

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Hi, all,

During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
a draft describing how to negotiate GRE Keys for when GRE tunneling
is used with Mobile IPv4, as described in this draft:

draft-yegani-gre-key-extension-03.txt

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Hi,
I support work on this topic.

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Hi, all,

During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
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these two drafts:

draft-gundavelli-mip4-multiple-tunnel-support-00.txt
draft-tsirtsis-mip4-flowmove-01.txt

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Hi,
I support work on this topic and could be interested to assist in the works=
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Hi, all,

During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
a draft describing support for Ethernet service to a mobile node,
as described in this draft:

draft-wu-mip4-ether-00.txt

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Thanks Shah, I am glad you join this work. As we discussed in the IETF74 meeting, 
I will consider to incorporate VSE mechanism as another candidate mechanism to transport ethernet service across MIP
to what we already have in the draft. And your further comments and suggestion are welcome in the maillist.

Regards!
-Qin
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> Hi,
> I support work on this topic and could be interested to assist in the works.
> 
> Thanks.
> Shah
> 
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> 
> Hi, all,
> 
> During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
> a draft describing support for Ethernet service to a mobile node,
> as described in this draft:
> 
> draft-wu-mip4-ether-00.txt
> 
> The sense of the room seemed to be that we NOT take on this 
> as a work item at this time.
> 
> This message is a request to confirm/reject this approach.  Please
> respond to this e-mail with an indication of whether you agree
> or disagree, and state your reasons why.
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Hello, all

It seems major concerns have been considered by the updated version.
so I support this work as well

-Hui

2009/5/5 McCann Peter-A001034 <pete.mccann@motorola.com>:
> Hi, all,
>
> During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
> a draft describing support for Ethernet service to a mobile node,
> as described in this draft:
>
> draft-wu-mip4-ether-00.txt
>
> The sense of the room seemed to be that we NOT take on this
> as a work item at this time.
>
> This message is a request to confirm/reject this approach. =A0Please
> respond to this e-mail with an indication of whether you agree
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I support this work, since GRE mechanism has already been pushed forward in the netlmm WG,
mip4 WG needs the similar synchroneous work.
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> Hi, all,
> 
> During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
> a draft describing how to negotiate GRE Keys for when GRE tunneling
> is used with Mobile IPv4, as described in this draft:
> 
> draft-yegani-gre-key-extension-03.txt
> 
> The sense of the room was that we should adopt this draft as
> a new work item.
> 
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Hi, Folks:
We just submitted the updated Internet draft:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wu-mip4-ether-01.txt

Your Comments and suggestions are welcome.

Regards!
-Qin
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> Hi, all,
> 
> During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
> a draft describing support for Ethernet service to a mobile node,
> as described in this draft:
> 
> draft-wu-mip4-ether-00.txt
> 
> The sense of the room seemed to be that we NOT take on this 
> as a work item at this time.
> 
> This message is a request to confirm/reject this approach.  Please
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> 
> -Pete
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Since this work does cover multi-homing issues in the mip4 scenario, 
I would like to support this work.

-Qin
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> Hi, all,
> 
> During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
> the multiple tunnel support and flow movement, as described in
> these two drafts:
> 
> draft-gundavelli-mip4-multiple-tunnel-support-00.txt
> draft-tsirtsis-mip4-flowmove-01.txt
> 
> The sense of the room seemed to be that we should combine these
> two drafts and take the result on as a new work item.
> 
> This message is a request to confirm/reject this approach.  Please
> respond to this e-mail with an indication of whether you agree
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Some v.good work went into this draft, lot of details. I will post my
comments later. If the WG is interested in this topic (market for this
is the question), this is probably a base. Also, keeping this in
experimental track makes lot of sense. I'd support this in experimental
track.


Sri


On Tue, 5 May 2009, McCann Peter-A001034 wrote:

> Hi, all,
>
> During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
> Home Agent Assisted Route Optimization, as described in this
> draft:
>
> draft-makela-mip4-nemo-haaro-03.txt
>
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> understand the scope and applicability of this draft.
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I support this draft. Its there for 3 or 4 years, hope
it can move faster.


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> Hi, all,
>
> During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on
> a draft describing how to negotiate GRE Keys for when GRE tunneling
> is used with Mobile IPv4, as described in this draft:
>
> draft-yegani-gre-key-extension-03.txt
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I support this optimization work.

On Tue, 5 May 2009, McCann Peter-A001034 wrote:

> Hi, all,
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> This is a call for consensus to see whether we want to adopt
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>
> draft-chakrabarti-mip4-mcbc-03.txt
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I support this work item because multiple tunnel support is a real-world
use case.

Kent=20

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Hi, all,

During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on the
multiple tunnel support and flow movement, as described in these two
drafts:

draft-gundavelli-mip4-multiple-tunnel-support-00.txt
draft-tsirtsis-mip4-flowmove-01.txt

The sense of the room seemed to be that we should combine these two
drafts and take the result on as a new work item.

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respond to this e-mail with an indication of whether you agree or
disagree, and state your reasons why.

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I support this work item because it is used/required by other SDOs.=20

Kent

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Hi, all,

During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed whether to take on a draft
describing how to negotiate GRE Keys for when GRE tunneling is used with
Mobile IPv4, as described in this draft:

draft-yegani-gre-key-extension-03.txt

The sense of the room was that we should adopt this draft as a new work
item.

This message is a request to confirm/reject this approach.  Please
respond to this e-mail with an indication of whether you agree or
disagree, and state your reasons why.

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I support a work item for host configuration.  George's proposal should
be studied further.

Kent=20

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Hi, all,

During our meeting at IETF74, we discussed the way forward for host
configuration with Mobile IPv4.  On the table are the following
drafts:

draft-ietf-mip4-gen-ext-04.txt
draft-deng-mip4-host-configuration-00.txt
draft-chakrabarti-mip4-mcbc-03.txt

There was an involved discussion during the meeting on what to do.  The
point was raised that some SDOs are already extending
mip4 with VSEs to do host configuration, and that some support is needed
for non-DHCP clients.  Issues with the handling of the broadcast
DHCPDISCOVER on the home link were also raised, and some people thought
that the current specifications would require the home agent to relay
every DHCPDISCOVER to every connected mobile node.  This clearly would
be unacceptable.

However, we don't want to go creating too many mechanisms for host
configuration that would require maintenance of mip4 every time we add a
new configuration option.

One proposal put forth by George at the meeting was to do one extension
to mip4 to carry a unicast address of a DHCP server, and then run
DHCPINFORM directly between the mobile host and that server using
unicast messages.

Is this the most viable way forward?  Please respond to this note with a
message saying whether you agree/disagree with this approach, and state
your reasons why.

Note that there was also support for the multicast-broadcast enhancement
draft independent of DHCP.  I will create a separate thread to discuss
whether to take on that work in our rechartering effort.

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Hi, Folks:
Just for your information, We have just posted the second version of the Internet Draft on ethernet service transport over MIP as Shah's comments.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wu-mip4-ether-02.txt
Thank for  Shah's valuable input. Also for anybody who is interested in this topic, your comments and suggestions are welcome!

Regards!
-Qin

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> 
> A new version of I-D, draft-wu-mip4-ether-02.txt has been successfuly submitted by Wenson Wu and posted to the IETF repository.
> 
> Filename: draft-wu-mip4-ether
> Revision: 02
> Title: MIP Extension for Ethernet Service transport Support
> Creation_date: 2009-05-12
> WG ID: Independent Submission
> Number_of_pages: 12
> 
> Abstract:
> The IP Mobility Protocol [RFC3344] enables a mobile node maintain IP
> connectivity when it changes its location.  However, it is not enough
> to enable the node to maintain L2 connectivity between mobile node
> and Ethernet service provider in order to support Ethernet service
> transport.  This document describes "Ethernet Service Transport"
> mobility option for mobile IPv4 that is intended to assist home agent
> tunnel Ethernet packets from the home link to the FA on the foreign
> link during the datagram delivery process.
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> The IETF Secretariat.
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CALL FOR PAPERS

IWSOS 2009 - 4th International Workshop on Self-Organizing Systems
December 9-11, 2009, ETH Zurich, Zurich, Switzerland
http://iwsos2009.ethz.ch

Workshop Scope

IWSOS 2009 is the fourth workshop in a series of annual workshops dedicated to self-organization in networks and networked systems. The necessity for and expected benefit of self-organization is caused by the growing scale, complexity, and heterogeneity of future networked systems, like the future Internet. Future networks will form complex networks integrating wired and wireless infrastructures with mobile ad-hoc, and sensor networks that could be spontaneously deployed in hostile environments, have a dynamic population and a potentially short life time. In spite of this, there will be stringent user requirements, such as high availability and real-time guarantees. Although self-organization is desirable for these kinds of networks, it is not yet clear to what extent self-organization can be exploited.

Research into networked systems started a few years ago to systematically investigate self-organization and has lead to a multitude of open research issues. The applicability of well-known self-organizing techniques to specific networks and networked systems is being investigated, as well as adaptations and novel approaches inspired by cooperation in nature and evolutionary dynamics, sociology, and game theory. Additionally, models originating from areas like control theory and complex systems research, are being applied to networked systems to analyze their controllability and behavior. Aspects of engineering self-organizing networked systems are studied that draw on approaches like programmable networks, and tools and frameworks for deploying, testing, and monitoring self-organizing networks. The role of self-organization in the future Internet and the impact on its architecture is an important topic, as well as the application of self-organization in future intelligent tra
 nsportation systems and vehicular ad-hoc networks.

Building on the success of its predecessors, this workshop aims at bringing together leading international researchers to create a visionary forum for discussing the future of self-organization in networked systems. Topics include, but are not limited to the following.

Key Topics

*  Self-organization and self-management 
*  Self-configuration and self-optimization 
*  Self-protection, -diagnosis, and -healing 
*  Self-organizing Networks and networked systems
*  Autonomic networking principles and practice
*  Control theory based models and approaches to self-organization
*  Group-forming networks and techniques 
*  Programmable and cognitive networks as a basis for self-organization
*  Visualization of network state
*  Inspiring models of self-organization in nature and society (e.g., bio-inspired or based on game theory)
*  Self-organization for Quality of Service
*  Resilience, robustness and fault tolerance for networked systems
*  Security in self-organizing networked systems 
*  Self-organization in peer-to-peer, sensor and ad-hoc networks
*  Self-organization for ubiquitous computing
*  Self-organization in heterogeneous network convergence
*  Evolutionary principles of the (future, emerging) Internet
*  Self-configuring place-and-play mobile networks 
*  Self-organizing vehicular ad-hoc networks
*  Methods for configuration and management of large, complex networks
*  Applications, e.g. the self-organizing home network
*  Risks of self-organization
*  The human in the loop of self-organizing networks

Paper Submission

IWSOS invites submission of manuscripts as full or short papers that present original research results, and that have not been previously published or are currently under review by another conference or journal. Any previous or simultaneous publication of related material should be explicitly noted in the submission. All papers must be submitted in PDF format. Submissions will be peer reviewed by at least three members of the international TPC and judged on originality, significance, interest, clarity, relevance, and correctness.

Full Papers

Submissions should be full-length papers up to 12 pages using the LNCS style, including all figures and references, and must include an abstract of 100-150 words. 

Short Papers

Submissions should be position papers, challenging papers, and papers presenting first or late results up to 6 pages length (LNCS style, including all figures and references), and must include an abstract of 100-150 words.

Accepted Papers

The proceedings will be published by Springer-Verlag in their Lecture Notes in Computer Science (LNCS) series. At least one of the authors of each accepted paper must attend IWSOS 2009 to present the paper.

Posters and Demonstrations

To complement the main technical programme of IWSOS 2009, we are soliciting extended abstracts (up to two pages, LNCS style) that describe posters and demonstrations that will be presented at an informal session during the workshop. This session should provide a platform to present and discuss work-in-progress and demonstrations. The abstracts will be collected and made available at the event.

Important Dates

Full Paper submission deadline: July 10, 2009
Notification of acceptance: September 12, 2009

Short Paper submission deadline: August 14, 2009
Notification of acceptance: September 12, 2009

Poster submission deadline: October 16, 2009
Notification of acceptance: October 30, 2009

Camera-ready papers due: September 30, 2009
Early registration ends: October 6, 2009 (except for poster authors)

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Hi, Christian:
Thank for your feedback. Just let you know, we have already updated the version 2. 
As regarding your comments, please see my reply below.

> Below, you'll find some comments based on my review of your I-D  
> draft-wu-mip4-ether-01.txt:
> 
> Introduction:
> 
> Remove the r:  "The capability .......service providers to _provide_ IP 
> services ..."

[Qin]: Right,  there appears to be a typo here, thanks you for pointing out this.

> Third bullet: ISP-head _and_ to enable
> 
> Last paragraph:  "... home address assignment _policies_ and tunnel ... 
> can be operated _in_ parallel to ..."

[Qin]: Right, good catch.

> Terminology:
> 
> GRE Extension: check: _to differentiate between *difference* Ethernet_ 
> ... Not clear what you mean.

[Qin]: I actually said GRE extension can be used to differentiate between different Ethernet service based on GRE keys.
Here is a nits, thank you for pointing out this.

> Section 3.3
> 
> VLAN tags process in _both direction_ towards ...

[Qin]: It is okay with me, I can change bidirection into both direction.
 
> Section 4.2
> " ... the communication between the MN and the home agent needs to be 
> modified to support Ethernet frame network..." This statement maybe 
> difficult  in order to sell your proposal.
[Qin] You are right. We could add some text to say:
"
In order to support Ethernet service delivery in mobile IPv4
scenario, the communication between the MN and the home agent needs
to be modified to setup binding between MN's MAC address and FA CoA.
"
What do you think of it?

> I do not understand what do you mean by: "host behind the MN" is  it a 
> router/IP node? MN is one of the end-point of communication path. Which 
> node/host is behind MN?

[Qin]: What I mean here is in multi-host support scenario(please see the section 3.4 of this draft), there are multiple mobile devices connected to the bridge behind Mobile Router. The mobile router contains a bridge forwarding to the mobile devices behind the MR. The traffic sent from the mobile device should be forwarded by the Mobile Router to the Ethernet sevice provider. In this scenario, the MN is the mobile router and not a end point of communication path. The mobile device behind the mobile router is the real end point of communication path.

> Section 6.2
> _to differentiate between *difference* Ethernet_ services or flows... 
> Not clear what you mean.

[Qin]: It is a typo, the difference should be changed into different, thank you for correcting me.

> Last sentence: "... Wu Expires ....", formatting issue, need to check.
> 
> Section 7.2
> 
> Home Agent Operatio_*n

> *_Best regards,
> Christian_*
> *_

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Hallo, my name is Pablo and I am wondering how a mobile establishes a
connection to a correspondent node, I am guessing it uses the ordinary
TCP/IP three way handshake but I am wondering if there is somewhere more
specified how the packages are composed if they are anything special with
them when using Mobile IPv4 or Mobile IPv6?

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Hallo, my name is Pablo and I am wondering how a mobile establishes a conne=
ction to a correspondent node, I am guessing it uses the ordinary TCP/IP th=
ree way handshake but I am wondering if there is somewhere more specified h=
ow the packages are composed if they are anything special with them when us=
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Hello Pablo,

Mobile IPv* is specifically constructed so that TCP (or any other
transport protocol that would normally be carried by IP) will work
without any knowledge of Mobile IP.  So UDP, SCTP, ICMP,
all should just work.

Regards,
Charlie P.


KKloe Kaishoto wrote:
> Hallo, my name is Pablo and I am wondering how a mobile establishes a 
> connection to a correspondent node, I am guessing it uses the ordinary 
> TCP/IP three way handshake but I am wondering if there is somewhere 
> more specified how the packages are composed if they are anything 
> special with them when using Mobile IPv4 or Mobile IPv6?
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Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this call due to cross  
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**** Call for Papers ****

4th International Conference on Pervasive Computing Technologies for  
Healthcare 2010

	http://www.pervasivehealth.org

March 22nd-25th 2010, Munich, Germany


Pervasive healthcare is an emerging research discipline, focusing on  
the development and application of pervasive and ubiquitous computing  
technology for healthcare and wellness. Pervasive healthcare seeks to  
respond to a variety of pressures on healthcare systems, including the  
increased incidence of life-style related and chronic diseases,  
emerging consumerism in healthcare, need for empowering patients and  
relatives for self-care and management of their health, and need to  
provide seamless access for health care services, independent of time  
and place.

Pervasive healthcare may be defined from two perspectives. First, it  
is the development and application of pervasive computing (or  
ubiquitous computing, ambient intelligence) technologies for  
healthcare, health and wellness management. Second, it seeks to make  
healthcare available to anyone, anytime, and anywhere by removing  
locational, time and other restraints while increasing both the  
coverage and quality of healthcare.

The Pervasive Healthcare conference aims to gather together technology  
experts, practitioners, industry and national authorities contributing  
towards the development and application of human-centered pervasive  
and ubiquitous computing technology for healthcare and wellness.


		*** CONTRIBUTIONS ***

We seek novel, innovative, and exciting work in areas including but  
not limited to:

Technology
* Design and evaluation of patient and ambient-related sensors
* Wearable and implantable sensor integration
* Energy management and harvesting
* Sensor networks for pervasive healthcare
* Data fusion in pervasive healthcare environments
* Physiological models for interpreting medical sensor data
* Decision support algorithms for sensor data analysis
* Human to machine interfaces

User Needs
* Usability and acceptability issues
* Social implications
* Coverage and delivery of pervasive healthcare services
* Cognitive deficits (mild cognitive impairment, dementia,...)
* Physical deficits (mobility,...)
* Vegetative deficits (incontinence, adipositas, cardiovascular  
diseases,...)
* Telemedicine

Applications
* Clinical applications, validation and evaluation studies
* Pervasive healthcare applications for citizen for chronic disease  
management & health risk management
* Health promotion, and disease prevention
* Wearable, ambient and home based health and wellness measurement and  
monitoring technologies
* Continuous vs event-driven monitoring of patients in diverse  
environments
* Health interfaces, information visualisation and feedback
* Health-related ICT for Development
* Assistive Devices for temporal and spatial orientation
* Activity recognition and fall detection
* Entertainment, educational and motivational aids

Management of Pervasive Healthcare
* Business cases and cost issues
* Electronic citizen-managed health records
* Security and privacy in pervasive healthcare
* Training of healthcare professional for pervasive healthcare
* Legal and regulatory issues in pervasive healthcare
* Insurance payments and cost aspects
* Standards and interoperability in pervasive healthcare
* Using mobile devices for healthcare information storage, update, and  
transmission


		*** TYPE OF SUBMISSIONS ***

Pervasive Health will accept submissions in the following categories:

1 Full papers (up to 8 pages submissions) - Full papers are  
submissions describing results and original research work not  
submitted or published elsewhere in one of the four main categories  
listed below. Full papers should properly place the work within the  
field, cite related work, and clearly indicate the innovative aspects  
of the work and its contribution to the field.

2 Posters (up to 4 pages submissions) - Authors are invited to submit  
work in progress whose preliminary results are already interesting to  
Pervasive Health audience. The poster track will give Pervasive Health  
attendees a way to learn about ongoing research initiatives and will  
provide presenters with an excellent opportunity to receive invaluable  
direct feedback from experts.

3 Demos and Videos (2 pages submissions) - For the first time,  
Pervasive Health Conference proposes a demos and videos track that  
will showcase the latest developments and prototypes related to the  
topics of interest of the conference. The expected submissions should  
describe the demo from both, the technical side and its contribution  
to healthcare aspects

4 Workshop Proposals
A separate Call for Workshops will be issued in due course. Please  
check conference website (http://www.pervasivehealth.org).



All accepted submissions will be published in IEEE Xplore Digital  
Library.


*** IMPORTANT DATES ****
All Papers Categories Submissions:	December 4, 2009
Notification of Acceptance: 		February 8, 2010
Camera-ready Manuscripts due: 		February 26, 2010
Conference Dates: 			March 22-25, 2010
		
*** WORKSHOPS ***
Please visit the Workshops pages for detailed submission requirements  
and procedures.

*** SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS ***
Please visit the Submission page for detailed submission requirements  
and procedures.
http://www.pervasivehealth.org/submission.shtml

*** PUBLICATION ***
Please visit the Publications page for more information.
http://www.pervasivehealth.org/publication.shtml


__________________________

Julie Maitland
Social/Ubiquitous/Mobile Group
Department of Computer Science
University of Glasgow

phone: +44 141 330 2333
web: http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~jules

'Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today' - James  
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application of pervasive and ubiquitous computing technology for =
healthcare and wellness. Pervasive healthcare seeks to respond to a =
variety of pressures on healthcare systems, including the increased =
incidence of life-style related and chronic diseases, emerging =
consumerism in healthcare, need for empowering patients and relatives =
for self-care and management of their health, and need to provide =
seamless access for health care services, independent of time and =
place.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Pervasive healthcare may be =
defined from two perspectives. First, it is the development and =
application of pervasive computing (or ubiquitous computing, ambient =
intelligence) technologies for healthcare, health and wellness =
management. Second, it seeks to make healthcare available to anyone, =
anytime, and anywhere by removing locational, time and other restraints =
while increasing both the coverage and quality of =
healthcare.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The Pervasive Healthcare =
conference aims to gather together technology experts, practitioners, =
industry and national authorities contributing towards the development =
and application of human-centered pervasive and ubiquitous computing =
technology for healthcare and =
wellness.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">		=
</span>*** CONTRIBUTIONS ***</div><div><br></div><div>We seek novel, =
innovative, and exciting work in areas including but not limited =
to:</div><div><br></div><div>Technology</div><div>* Design and =
evaluation of patient and ambient-related sensors</div><div>* Wearable =
and implantable sensor integration&nbsp;</div><div>* Energy management =
and harvesting&nbsp;</div><div>* Sensor networks for pervasive =
healthcare</div><div>* Data fusion in pervasive healthcare =
environments</div><div>* Physiological models for interpreting medical =
sensor data</div><div>* Decision support algorithms for sensor data =
analysis&nbsp;</div><div>* Human to machine =
interfaces</div><div><br></div><div>User Needs</div><div>* Usability and =
acceptability issues</div><div>* Social implications</div><div>* =
Coverage and delivery of pervasive healthcare services</div><div>* =
Cognitive deficits (mild cognitive impairment, =
dementia,...)&nbsp;</div><div>* Physical deficits =
(mobility,...)&nbsp;</div><div>* Vegetative deficits (incontinence, =
adipositas, cardiovascular diseases,...)&nbsp;</div><div>* =
Telemedicine</div><div><br></div><div>Applications</div><div>* Clinical =
applications, validation and evaluation studies</div><div>* Pervasive =
healthcare applications for citizen for chronic disease management &amp; =
health risk management</div><div>* Health promotion, and disease =
prevention</div><div>* Wearable, ambient and home based health and =
wellness measurement and monitoring technologies</div><div>* Continuous =
vs event-driven monitoring of patients in diverse =
environments</div><div>* Health interfaces, information visualisation =
and feedback&nbsp;</div><div>* Health-related ICT for =
Development</div><div>* Assistive Devices for temporal and spatial =
orientation</div><div>* Activity recognition and fall =
detection</div><div>* Entertainment, educational and motivational =
aids</div><div><br></div><div>Management of Pervasive =
Healthcare</div><div>* Business cases and cost issues</div><div>* =
Electronic citizen-managed health records</div><div>* Security and =
privacy in pervasive healthcare</div><div>* Training of healthcare =
professional for pervasive healthcare</div><div>* Legal and regulatory =
issues in pervasive healthcare</div><div>* Insurance payments and cost =
aspects</div><div>* Standards and interoperability in pervasive =
healthcare</div><div>* Using mobile devices for healthcare information =
storage, update, and =
transmission</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">		=
</span>*** TYPE OF SUBMISSIONS ***</div><div><br></div><div>Pervasive =
Health will accept submissions in the following =
categories:&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>1 Full papers (up to 8 pages =
submissions) - Full papers are submissions describing results and =
original research work not submitted or published elsewhere in one of =
the four main categories listed below. Full papers should properly place =
the work within the field, cite related work, and clearly indicate the =
innovative aspects of the work and its contribution to the =
field.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>2 Posters (up to 4 pages =
submissions) - Authors are invited to submit work in progress whose =
preliminary results are already interesting to Pervasive Health =
audience. The poster track will give Pervasive Health attendees a way to =
learn about ongoing research initiatives and will provide presenters =
with an excellent opportunity to receive invaluable direct feedback from =
experts.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>3 Demos and Videos (2 pages =
submissions) - For the first time, Pervasive Health Conference proposes =
a demos and videos track that will showcase the latest developments and =
prototypes related to the topics of interest of the conference. The =
expected submissions should describe the demo from both, the technical =
side and its contribution to healthcare =
aspects</div><div><br></div><div>4 Workshop Proposals</div><div>A =
separate Call for Workshops will be issued in due course. Please check =
conference website (<a =
href=3D"http://www.pervasivehealth.org">http://www.pervasivehealth.org</a>=
).</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>All accepted =
submissions will be published in IEEE Xplore Digital =
Library.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>*** IMPORTANT DATES =
****</div><div>All Papers Categories Submissions:<span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>December =
4, 2009</div><div>Notification of Acceptance: <span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">		=
</span>February 8, 2010</div><div>Camera-ready Manuscripts due: <span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">		=
</span>February 26, 2010</div><div>Conference Dates: <span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">			=
</span>March 22-25, 2010&nbsp;</div><div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">		</span></div><div>*** WORKSHOPS =
***</div><div>Please visit the Workshops pages for detailed submission =
requirements and procedures.</div><div><br></div><div>*** SUBMISSION =
INSTRUCTIONS ***</div><div>Please visit the Submission page for detailed =
submission requirements and procedures.</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.pervasivehealth.org/submission.shtml">http://www.pervas=
ivehealth.org/submission.shtml</a></div><div><br></div><div>*** =
PUBLICATION ***</div><div>Please visit the Publications page for more =
information.</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.pervasivehealth.org/publication.shtml">http://www.perva=
sivehealth.org/publication.shtml</a></div><div><br></div><div></div></body=
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**** Call for Papers ****

4th International Conference on Pervasive Computing Technologies for Healthcare 2010

	http://www.pervasivehealth.org

March 22nd-25th 2010, Munich, Germany


Pervasive healthcare is an emerging research discipline, focusing on the development and application of pervasive and ubiquitous computing technology for healthcare and wellness. Pervasive healthcare seeks to respond to a variety of pressures on healthcare systems, including the increased incidence of life-style related and chronic diseases, emerging consumerism in healthcare, need for empowering patients and relatives for self-care and management of their health, and need to provide seamless access for health care services, independent of time and place. 

Pervasive healthcare may be defined from two perspectives. First, it is the development and application of pervasive computing (or ubiquitous computing, ambient intelligence) technologies for healthcare, health and wellness management. Second, it seeks to make healthcare available to anyone, anytime, and anywhere by removing locational, time and other restraints while increasing both the coverage and quality of healthcare. 

The Pervasive Healthcare conference aims to gather together technology experts, practitioners, industry and national authorities contributing towards the development and application of human-centered pervasive and ubiquitous computing technology for healthcare and wellness.


		*** CONTRIBUTIONS ***

We seek novel, innovative, and exciting work in areas including but not limited to:

Technology
* Design and evaluation of patient and ambient-related sensors
* Wearable and implantable sensor integration 
* Energy management and harvesting 
* Sensor networks for pervasive healthcare
* Data fusion in pervasive healthcare environments
* Physiological models for interpreting medical sensor data
* Decision support algorithms for sensor data analysis 
* Human to machine interfaces

User Needs
* Usability and acceptability issues
* Social implications
* Coverage and delivery of pervasive healthcare services
* Cognitive deficits (mild cognitive impairment, dementia,...) 
* Physical deficits (mobility,...) 
* Vegetative deficits (incontinence, adipositas, cardiovascular diseases,...) 
* Telemedicine

Applications
* Clinical applications, validation and evaluation studies
* Pervasive healthcare applications for citizen for chronic disease management & health risk management
* Health promotion, and disease prevention
* Wearable, ambient and home based health and wellness measurement and monitoring technologies
* Continuous vs event-driven monitoring of patients in diverse environments
* Health interfaces, information visualisation and feedback 
* Health-related ICT for Development
* Assistive Devices for temporal and spatial orientation
* Activity recognition and fall detection
* Entertainment, educational and motivational aids

Management of Pervasive Healthcare
* Business cases and cost issues
* Electronic citizen-managed health records
* Security and privacy in pervasive healthcare
* Training of healthcare professional for pervasive healthcare
* Legal and regulatory issues in pervasive healthcare
* Insurance payments and cost aspects
* Standards and interoperability in pervasive healthcare
* Using mobile devices for healthcare information storage, update, and transmission


		*** TYPE OF SUBMISSIONS ***

Pervasive Health will accept submissions in the following categories: 

1 Full papers (up to 8 pages submissions) - Full papers are submissions describing results and original research work not submitted or published elsewhere in one of the four main categories listed below. Full papers should properly place the work within the field, cite related work, and clearly indicate the innovative aspects of the work and its contribution to the field. 

2 Posters (up to 4 pages submissions) - Authors are invited to submit work in progress whose preliminary results are already interesting to Pervasive Health audience. The poster track will give Pervasive Health attendees a way to learn about ongoing research initiatives and will provide presenters with an excellent opportunity to receive invaluable direct feedback from experts. 

3 Demos and Videos (2 pages submissions) - For the first time, Pervasive Health Conference proposes a demos and videos track that will showcase the latest developments and prototypes related to the topics of interest of the conference. The expected submissions should describe the demo from both, the technical side and its contribution to healthcare aspects

4 Workshop Proposals
A separate Call for Workshops will be issued in due course. Please check conference website (http://www.pervasivehealth.org).



All accepted submissions will be published in IEEE Xplore Digital Library.


*** IMPORTANT DATES ****
All Papers Categories Submissions:	December 4, 2009
Notification of Acceptance: 		February 8, 2010
Camera-ready Manuscripts due: 		February 26, 2010
Conference Dates: 			March 22-25, 2010 
		
*** WORKSHOPS ***
Please visit the Workshops pages for detailed submission requirements and procedures.

*** SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS ***
Please visit the Submission page for detailed submission requirements and procedures.
http://www.pervasivehealth.org/submission.shtml

*** PUBLICATION ***
Please visit the Publications page for more information.
http://www.pervasivehealth.org/publication.shtml


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Hallo again, I was wondering if you know any company that have implemented
this in their product and is in use in the private or public domain for
mobile applications?

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Hallo again, I was wondering if you know any company that have implemented this in their product and is in use in the private or public domain for mobile applications?<br>

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