From alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com Mon Mar 7 12:52:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D553A67C2 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 12:52:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ULGKV3IoB3Yy for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 12:52:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81BB63A6784 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 12:52:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.239.213.32]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931AD9403D5; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 21:53:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D7545CD.1070408@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 21:53:33 +0100 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mip4@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110307-0, 07/03/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: nicolas.demailly@ixxi.biz, "Christophe \(w\) Janneteau" Subject: [Mip4] Tunnel Type Change for Mobile IPv4 X-BeenThere: mip4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility for IPv4 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:52:30 -0000 Dear MIP4, I have just submitted a new draft titled "Tunnel Type Change for Mobile IPv4 (TTC)" http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-petrescu-mip4-tuntype-change-00 It describes a situation where some HA implementation has difficulty with the change of tunnel of a Mobile Router: from IP-in-IP to IP-in-UDP (MR changes its CoA between NAT and no-NAT). Proposed solutions include: better HA implementation, better specifications of Mobile IPv4 RFC5944, better NAT Traversal RFC, or maybe a new extension TTC to the Registration Request, or a better Reply Code (more detailed than just 64 "declined, reason unspecified"). As it stands now we are interested in comments on the problem, see similar issues were experience elsewhere. Comments appreciated, Alex From tslura@gmail.com Tue Mar 8 10:09:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050C83A68F7 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:09:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id umE198i3AnQi for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f172.google.com (mail-iw0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9F23A68AF for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by iwl42 with SMTP id 42so6402919iwl.31 for ; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:10:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Xv52cVIugiGW0h/hxnYhQ4rzTPU5p3evVXBNaSbx/pc=; b=cgzeDxJJEa4OktaMhDAkkgxdg6Eg8nhDtfVt+VOh9ttFGVPZMSxUA40spd3FIYVf3I nhN2J0qKqFEC8vo03kWLwESioeA2sCdXAADsy80pqxW2bYfxw6fGrtjiJ3u/x2rR+xmb 6DKTe4slZcsDhpjLNXyQRZv1/i2cARPSd670o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=aqPoN28ZGUEn/KiGGZVpru4X2t+g6Bn8oH9yi22xEy8+tRTuL/zCt3njQn5pQIZfSr KzBVUxWB0DVQ5kJlbduldFr2ImJsoQpU544xJ0q1KRp59/GFDZyNXEKCBygxlnKANlCj XfEVQqFoNNPHbHGFfla2zgGNF9iiSHknA5KtM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.197.2 with SMTP id ei2mr6800336icb.291.1299607835418; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:10:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.240.8 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:10:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 18:10:35 +0000 Message-ID: From: TS Lura To: mip4@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf303bff70609f5a049dfc8702 Subject: [Mip4] Seeking information about implemented Monitoring tools for the Home Agent. X-BeenThere: mip4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility for IPv4 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 18:21:24 -0000 --20cf303bff70609f5a049dfc8702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear participants of the mip4 mailing-list, I am a student doing research for my dissertation. In part of that research I am looking for monitoring tools, specifically implemented for the Home Agent. (MIB RFC2006) Or for Mobile IP suite. So far I have only found general tools, as the HP NNMi, Nagios, OpenNMS, Cacti, Munin, NetMRG. And a framework for massive SNMP polling named Torrus. I have done some research on Cisco ASA and Juniper's Steel-Belted Radius Mobile IP Module. But I have been unsuccessful in determining if they have implemented software to display the MIB structure in RFC 2006 in other forms than in a router CLI. I would be very grateful, if anyone could answer my question of: - Is there is any tools which is designed specifically to monitor and display, in for example a web interface, the information from the data objects in RFC 2006? Kind regards, T.S.Lura. --20cf303bff70609f5a049dfc8702 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear participants of the mip4 mailing-list,


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--20cf303bff70609f5a049dfc8702-- From alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com Wed Mar 9 05:21:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6B23A69A2 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 05:21:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GhOZ16zgZRTb for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 05:21:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from cirse-out.extra.cea.fr (cirse-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.142]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33873A6992 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 05:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by cirse.extra.cea.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.2) with ESMTP id p29DMV7K004917 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:22:31 +0100 Received: from muguet2.intra.cea.fr (muguet2.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.7]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p29DMUcU015194; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:22:31 +0100 (envelope-from alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com) Received: from [132.166.133.173] (is010173.intra.cea.fr [132.166.133.173]) by muguet2.intra.cea.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.1) with ESMTP id p29DMUCO013969; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:22:30 +0100 Message-ID: <4D777F16.3060700@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 14:22:30 +0100 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mip4@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Mip4] Seeking information about implemented Monitoring tools for the Home Agent. X-BeenThere: mip4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility for IPv4 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 13:21:18 -0000 For the HA implementation "dynamics" there is a dynha_tool which is CLI and shows the egistrations. For SNMP - I suppose if I google I can find a large number of open source SNMP tools showing contents of databases, like the "Free MIB Browser". I am also interested whether there exists an RFC2006-specific (rfc2006 "MIB for MIP") monitoring tool freely available. Alex Le 08/03/2011 19:10, TS Lura a écrit : > Dear participants of the mip4 mailing-list, > > > I am a student doing research for my dissertation. In part of that > research I am looking for monitoring tools, specifically implemented > for the Home Agent. (MIB RFC2006) Or for Mobile IP suite. So far I > have only found general tools, as the HP NNMi, Nagios, OpenNMS, > Cacti, Munin, NetMRG. And a framework for massive SNMP polling named > Torrus. > > I have done some research on Cisco ASA and Juniper's Steel-Belted > Radius Mobile IP Module. But I have been unsuccessful in determining > if they have implemented software to display the MIB structure in RFC > 2006 in other forms than in a router CLI. I would be very grateful, > if anyone could answer my question of: > > - Is there is any tools which is designed specifically to monitor and > display, in for example a web interface, the information from the > data objects in RFC 2006? > > > > Kind regards, > > T.S.Lura. > > > > > > > > > > -- Mip4 mailing list: Mip4@ietf.org Web interface: > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mip4 Charter page: > http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/mip4-charter.html Supplemental > site: http://www.mip4.org/ From tslura@gmail.com Mon Mar 14 08:42:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DD73A696C for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 08:42:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.572 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.572 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.026, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xJj8ibMgMqWe for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 08:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEFC83A6D32 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 08:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz13 with SMTP id 13so5098420bwz.31 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 08:43:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IjElMoqL3ZINEAMHV7HW1NZ30HQczybTt0RsCv+XFBQ=; b=p3VQapcAjC6sUr7qvvqo5bCX2diwqozPP08HAZJludCKu/39y35m8sBFNYAyhj5M84 fPH7sN/XnUUIcnZ63Nm3SwZujeJUcjbBU1hkn3wwpEcAhxNJIol18k7bmD14+Pe78r9N E1Xjr92ALmj99Ihu2CeQiSx8ImSnj6XduHBk4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PPiH2GxNsrOlmvFI0rh7lc7fLfJlW84kDzSM51K3jWYOy1VSVLoK96p3b9FE2EdCp9 WOeFFNdXakCF5eeJGwV6WSaSs08vCZxnPzsOVAGr+unPvsnFiwa2oY4B/iKnGmQ935YC Q4UYmEFCaTjESmrq817hExa7vTCUHDgJAHLS0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.23.81 with SMTP id q17mr1132445bkb.2.1300117412618; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 08:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.78.197 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 08:43:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4D777F16.3060700@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:43:32 +0000 Message-ID: From: TS Lura To: mip4@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325556d728baa55049e732cbf Subject: Re: [Mip4] Seeking information about implemented Monitoring tools for the Home Agent. X-BeenThere: mip4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility for IPv4 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:42:19 -0000 --000325556d728baa55049e732cbf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay, Thank you for the feedback. It helped me. I am currently working on a web gui interface which implements the RFC2006 which is to be freely available. Its an simple solution build on Perl and the Perl Dancer web framework with RRDtools. Which I have combined with a Java Script Mocha(UI) to spice it up a bit. If there is any interest I can post a link when the software is finished. T.S. On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Alexandru Petrescu < alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote: > For the HA implementation "dynamics" there is a dynha_tool which is CLI > and shows the egistrations. > > For SNMP - I suppose if I google I can find a large number of open > source SNMP tools showing contents of databases, like the "Free MIB > Browser". > > I am also interested whether there exists an RFC2006-specific (rfc2006 > "MIB for MIP") monitoring tool freely available. > > Alex > > Le 08/03/2011 19:10, TS Lura a =E9crit : > >> Dear participants of the mip4 mailing-list, >> >> >> I am a student doing research for my dissertation. In part of that >> research I am looking for monitoring tools, specifically implemented >> for the Home Agent. (MIB RFC2006) Or for Mobile IP suite. So far I >> have only found general tools, as the HP NNMi, Nagios, OpenNMS, >> Cacti, Munin, NetMRG. And a framework for massive SNMP polling named >> Torrus. >> >> I have done some research on Cisco ASA and Juniper's Steel-Belted >> Radius Mobile IP Module. But I have been unsuccessful in determining >> if they have implemented software to display the MIB structure in RFC >> 2006 in other forms than in a router CLI. I would be very grateful, >> if anyone could answer my question of: >> >> - Is there is any tools which is designed specifically to monitor and >> display, in for example a web interface, the information from the >> data objects in RFC 2006? >> >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> T.S.Lura. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- Mip4 mailing list: Mip4@ietf.org Web interface: >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mip4 Charter page: >> http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/mip4-charter.html Supplemental >> site: http://www.mip4.org/ >> > > -- > Mip4 mailing list: Mip4@ietf.org > Web interface: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mip4 > Charter page: http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/mip4-charter.html > Supplemental site: http://www.mip4.org/ > --000325556d728baa55049e732cbf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Okay,

Thank you for the f= eedback. It helped me.
I am currently working on a web gui interf= ace which implements the RFC2006 which is to be freely available.
Its an simple solution build on Perl and the Perl Dancer web framework with= RRDtools.=A0Which I have combined with a Java Script Mocha(UI) to spice it= up a bit.

If there is any=A0interest=A0I can post a link when the= software is finished.=A0

T.S.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011= at 1:22 PM, Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote:
For the HA implementation "dynamics&quo= t; there is a dynha_tool which is CLI
and shows the egistrations.

For SNMP - I suppose if I google I can find a large number of open
source SNMP tools showing contents of databases, like the "Free MIB Browser".

I am also interested whether there exists an RFC2006-specific (rfc2006
"MIB for MIP") monitoring tool freely available.

Alex

Le 08/03/2011 19:10, TS Lura a =E9crit :
Dear participants of the mip4 mailing-list,


I am a student doing research for my dissertation. In part of that
research I am looking for monitoring tools, specifically implemented
for the Home Agent. (MIB RFC2006) =A0Or for Mobile IP suite. So far I
have only found general tools, as the HP NNMi, Nagios, OpenNMS,
Cacti, Munin, NetMRG. And a framework for massive SNMP polling named
Torrus.

I have done some research on Cisco ASA and Juniper's Steel-Belted
Radius Mobile IP Module. But I have been unsuccessful in determining
if they have implemented software to display the MIB structure in RFC
2006 in other forms than in a router CLI. I would be very grateful,
if anyone could answer my question of:

- Is there is any tools which is designed specifically to monitor and
=A0display, in for example a web interface, the information from the
data objects in RFC 2006?



Kind regards,

T.S.Lura.









-- Mip4 mailing list: Mi= p4@ietf.org Web interface:
ht= tps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mip4 Charter page:
http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/mip4-charter.html Supplemental=
site: http://www.mip4.or= g/

--
Mip4 mailing list: Mip4@= ietf.org
=A0 Web interface: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mip4
=A0 =A0Charter page: http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/mip4-charter= .html
Supplemental site: http:= //www.mip4.org/


--000325556d728baa55049e732cbf-- From pekkas@netcore.fi Tue Mar 15 02:44:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2885A3A6B3A; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:44:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.593 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.593 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.006, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RTIrQGBxfpwW; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcore.fi (eunet-gw.ipv6.netcore.fi [IPv6:2001:670:86:3001::1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F433A6C3D; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcore.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netcore.fi (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2F9jKEn003416 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:45:20 +0200 Received: from localhost (pekkas@localhost) by netcore.fi (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id p2F9jK1p003412; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:45:20 +0200 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:45:20 +0200 (EET) From: Pekka Savola To: ietf@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <20110301005446.21771.57661.idtracker@localhost> Message-ID: References: <20110301005446.21771.57661.idtracker@localhost> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (LRH 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at otso.netcore.fi X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:05:00 -0700 Cc: mip4-chairs@tools.ietf.org, draft-ietf-mip4-gre-key-extension@tools.ietf.org, mip4@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Mip4] Last Call: (GRE Key Extension for Mobile IPv4) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: mip4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility for IPv4 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 09:44:01 -0000 On Mon, 28 Feb 2011, The IESG wrote: > The IESG has received a request from the Mobility for IPv4 WG (mip4) to > consider the following document: > - 'GRE Key Extension for Mobile IPv4' > as a Proposed Standard I've done an ops-dir review of draft-ietf-mip4-gre-key-extension-04. The document defines procedures when using using GRE tunneling between the mobile node or foreign agent and the home agent. GRE Key extention is used as for disambiguation purposes to handle overlapping address space. The specification appears to be clear enough, though it is actually specifying more than the document title suggests e.g. by adding MUST requirements for all foreign agent implementations. As a general comment, I suppose this is expected to be used in controlled environments only, because UDP encapsulation is already defined and does not (AFAIK) have these issues, and GRE is not expected to traverse NATs. As such this does not seem to be a very long-term solution. As an operational comment, I know many hardware GRE tunneling implementations don't support GRE keying in hardware. Maybe this is not a concern here. substantial issues ------------------ The document title is a bit misleading. This document not only specifies MIP GRE key extension, but seems to be specifying how Foreign Agent (FA) MUST act when either the foreign agent or mobile node wants to use GRE tunneling. This document includes MUST requirements also for Foreign Agents that don't implement GRE (S 4.1, fourth paragraph), and even if Key extension would not be used (S 4.1-4.2). As such, Updates: RFC3344 should be required. (Or, now Updates: RFC5944) In essence, this seems to actually be a more specific "Encapsulation with MIP4" specification. As a result, it would be nice if the scope of the document was laid out more clearly. Nits: ----- - Abstract is a bit verbose and mostly copy-paste from Introduction. - in S 4.1, reference [X.S0011-D] does not seem to exist in the references section. - RFC3344 has been obsoleted by RFC5944 -- Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings From mccap@petoni.org Wed Mar 16 17:08:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378BC3A6A11 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:08:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.947 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.947 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.030, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RqJIRW4sBvTQ for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f44.google.com (mail-ww0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461693A69FA for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wwa36 with SMTP id 36so1914913wwa.13 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:09:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.170.67 with SMTP id c3mr601379wbz.164.1300320587551; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.140.102 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:09:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [216.254.125.194] Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:09:47 -0500 Message-ID: From: Pete McCann To: mip4@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [Mip4] Agenda in Prague X-BeenThere: mip4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility for IPv4 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:08:22 -0000 We will be meeting at 0900 Thursday in Prague. I am putting together the agenda now. If anyone wants time to discuss some issues, please send e-mail to me, Henrik, and the list ASAP. Thanks, -Pete From daniele.migliorini@for.unipi.it Thu Mar 17 09:17:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46A23A69BA for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:17:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.719 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.719 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3y5ntCSQjqA8 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.unipi.it (smtp2.unipi.it [131.114.21.21]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F633A69DB for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.unipi.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0761C5DA; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:19:17 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.unipi.it Received: from smtp.unipi.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.unipi.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6T4juwIlarXq; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:19:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from host.homenet.telecomitalia.it (host191-255-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [62.211.255.191]) (Authenticated sender: r000420) by smtp.unipi.it (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CFDED1C457; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:19:15 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) From: Daniele Migliorini Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:19:15 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <99478AEA-5E5F-4D08-A6A7-902C009F60B2@for.unipi.it> References: To: mip4@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Subject: [Mip4] WoWMoM 2011: call for PhD forum extended abstracts X-BeenThere: mip4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility for IPv4 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:17:58 -0000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Call for PhD Forum Extended Abstracts PhD Forum WoWMoM 2011 Twelfth International Symposium on a World of Wireless, Mobile and Multimedia Networks http://wowmom2011.imtlucca.it/ sponsored by IEEE Computer Society, University of Texas at Arlington, IEEE CS TC on Computer Communications (TCCC) June 20-24, 2011 Lucca, Tuscany, Italy ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ******* SUBMISSION DEADLINE: MARCH 25, 2011 ******* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The third PhD Forum on Wireless and Multimedia Networks hosted at 12th International Symposium on a World of Wireless, Mobile and Multimedia Networks (WoWMoM 2011). Doctoral students working in areas related to wireless, mobile and multimedia networking are solicited to submit an=20 extended abstract comprising a summary of their research findings, work in progress and planned research. The forum will be a platform for PhD students to interact both with their peers as well as experienced re- searchers from industry. The forum will be organized as a poster session=20= and will include a '1-minute madness' introduction by each student. Current Ph.D. students are encouraged to submit extended abstracts. The Ph.D. student should be the sole author, although contributions of the advisor and others may be acknowledged in the extended abstract. Sub- missions will be reviewed to ensure quality and relevance. Authors of=20 accepted submissions are expected to attend WoWMoM 2011 and present = their poster at the PhD Forum. The best presentation at the Forum will receive a sponsored award, and there is likely to be travel assistance for some students. Accepted extended abstracts will appear in conference proceedings. Extended Abstract Submission: Ph.D. students are invited to submit two- page extended abstracts that describe current research and potential = con- tributions to theory and innovation in mobile and wireless = computing/com- munications, multimedia on mobile networks and closely related areas.=20 Submissions must be received by no later than March 25, 2011. Extended abstracts should include the author's name, affiliation, and email = address. There will be a prize for the best PhD Forum extended abstract. Submissions must be PDF files, written in English. Submissions should adhere to the IEEE format and be no more than two pages in length (all inclusive). Abstracts must be submitted on EDAS. =20 More details will be available at = http://wowmom2011.imtlucca.it/callphdforum.html. Important Dates =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Extended abstract submission deadline: March 25, 2011 Acceptance Notification: April 20, 2011 Camera Ready: April 28, 2011 WoWMoM: 20-24 June, 2011 PhD Forum Co-Chairs ------------------- Silvia Giordano, SUPSI, Switzerland and Mohan Kumar, The University of Texas at Arlington From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Mon Mar 21 14:13:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D478E3A68D0; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:13:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QzEmkxZxHlSU; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813553A68D2; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.12 Message-ID: <20110321211327.14509.65966.idtracker@localhost> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:13:27 -0700 Cc: mip4 chair , Internet Architecture Board , mip4 mailing list , RFC Editor Subject: [Mip4] Protocol Action: 'GRE Key Extension for Mobile IPv4' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-mip4-gre-key-extension-04.txt) X-BeenThere: mip4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility for IPv4 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:13:28 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'GRE Key Extension for Mobile IPv4' (draft-ietf-mip4-gre-key-extension-04.txt) as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Mobility for IPv4 Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Jari Arkko and Ralph Droms. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mip4-gre-key-extension/ Technical Summary This document defines an attribute to pass a GRE key in Mobile IPv4 messages. Working Group Summary This is a product of the MIP4 WG. Document Quality The document has passed WGLC. Personnel The responsible Area Director is Jari Arkko. From mccap@petoni.org Sat Mar 26 14:39:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208DC3A697C for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:39:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rgHjlNpUg2un for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f172.google.com (mail-qy0-f172.google.com [209.85.216.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F583A6974 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so363608qyk.10 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:41:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.178.14 with SMTP id bk14mr1917490qab.96.1301175669983; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.134.129 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:41:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [173.142.174.50] Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:41:09 -0400 Message-ID: From: Pete McCann To: mip4@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [Mip4] Agenda Uploaded X-BeenThere: mip4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility for IPv4 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 21:39:36 -0000 Apologies for being late, but the agenda is now uploaded here: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/agenda/mip4.txt We have a very light schedule this meeting as I only got one request to schedule time. If anyone wants to discuss other drafts please let me and Henrik know. -Pete From Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Mon Mar 28 06:45:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F903A6A21; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 06:45:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.567 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.567 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.032, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U6fRNQ-TFjtg; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 06:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9733A693A; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 06:45:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.13 Message-ID: <20110328134502.19737.40923.idtracker@localhost> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 06:45:02 -0700 Cc: mip4@ietf.org Subject: [Mip4] I-D Action:draft-ietf-mip4-gre-key-extension-05.txt X-BeenThere: mip4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility for IPv4 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:45:03 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Mobility for IPv4 Working Group of the IETF. Title : GRE Key Extension for Mobile IPv4 Author(s) : P. Yegani, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-mip4-gre-key-extension-05.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2011-03-28 The Generic Routing Encapsulation (GRE) specification contains a Key field, which MAY contain a value that is used to identify a particular GRE data stream. This specification defines a new Mobile IP extension that is used to exchange the value to be used in the GRE Key field. This extension further allows the Mobility Agents to set up the necessary protocol interfaces prior to receiving the mobile's traffic. The new extension allows a foreign agent to request GRE tunneling without disturbing the Home Agent behavior specified for Mobile IPv4. GRE tunneling with the Key field allows the operators to have home networks that consist of multiple Virtual Private Networks (VPNs), which may have overlapping home addresses. When the tuple < Care of Address, Home Address and Home Agent Address > is the same across multiple subscriber sessions, GRE tunneling will provide a means for the Foreign Agent and Home Agent to identify data streams for the individual sessions based on the GRE key. In the absence of this key identifier, the data streams cannot be distinguished from each other, a significant drawback when using IP-in-IP tunneling. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mip4-gre-key-extension-05.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-mip4-gre-key-extension-05.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2011-03-28063904.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From mccap@petoni.org Thu Mar 31 01:00:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C9C28C1F5 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 01:00:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jt8zAXQsnVw5 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 01:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qw0-f44.google.com (mail-qw0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873AB28C1F2 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 01:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so1527037qwg.31 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 01:02:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.222.144 with SMTP id ig16mr1986194qab.142.1301558529763; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 01:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.134.131 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 01:02:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [252.243.248.210] Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 04:02:09 -0400 Message-ID: From: Pete McCann To: mip4@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [Mip4] Minutes Uploaded X-BeenThere: mip4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility for IPv4 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 08:00:31 -0000 The meeting minutes from this morning's session have been uploaded: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/minutes/mip4.txt Please send any corrections or comments to the list ASAP. Many thanks to Antti Makela for taking the notes during the meeting. -Pete From Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Thu Mar 31 08:45:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mip4@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7313A6B57; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 08:45:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.579 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.579 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.020, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L0w+xolg4tDr; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 08:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9535A3A6B6E; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 08:45:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.14 Message-ID: <20110331154502.20000.50412.idtracker@localhost> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 08:45:02 -0700 Cc: mip4@ietf.org Subject: [Mip4] I-D Action:draft-ietf-mip4-nemov4-dynamic-04.txt X-BeenThere: mip4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility for IPv4 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:45:05 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Mobility for IPv4 Working Group of the IETF. Title : Dynamic Prefix Allocation for NEMOv4 Author(s) : G. Tsirtsis, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-mip4-nemov4-dynamic-04.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2011-03-31 The base NEMOv4 specification defines extensions to Mobile IPv4 for mobile networks. This specification defines a dynamic prefix allocation mechanism. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mip4-nemov4-dynamic-04.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-mip4-nemov4-dynamic-04.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2011-03-31084025.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart--