From mailman-bounces@core3.amsl.com Fri Feb 1 06:14:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DE4293A98 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2008 06:11:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.588 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.588 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.011, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from core3.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YeHsJLNMRu0y for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2008 06:11:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79AF52A2F9C for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2008 05:48:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ietf.org mailing list memberships reminder From: mailman-owner@ietf.org To: mobopts-archive@megatron.ietf.org X-No-Archive: yes Message-ID: Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 05:06:22 -0800 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: mailman@core3.amsl.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 List-Id: X-List-Administrivia: yes Sender: mailman-bounces@core3.amsl.com Errors-To: mailman-bounces@core3.amsl.com This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about your ietf.org mailing list memberships. 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Thanks! http://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/mobopts/mobopts-archive%40megatron.ietf.org From mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Mon Feb 18 07:08:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C27D28C349; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:08:13 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER, MIME error: error: illegal encoding [base64] for MIME type message/external-body X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.405 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.405 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.032, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y2tlj3k8Gaxt; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:08:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E753A6CCC; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:08:11 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDBCE28C2AA for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:08:10 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER, MIME error: error: illegal encoding [base64] for MIME type message/external-body Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k7Kse5WRokl8 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:08:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.mei.co.jp (smtp.mei.co.jp [133.183.100.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10FB3A67F4 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:08:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gw.jp.panasonic.com ([157.8.1.145]) by smtp.mei.co.jp (8.12.11.20060614/3.7W/kc-maile11) with ESMTP id m1IF878b022022 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:08:07 +0900 (JST) Received: by mail-gw.jp.panasonic.com (8.11.6p2/3.7W/somlb2) with ESMTP id m1IF87m09350 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:08:07 +0900 (JST) Received: from pslexc01.psl.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.jp.panasonic.com (8.11.6p2/3.7W/kc-maili02) with ESMTP id m1IF86Y03064 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:08:06 +0900 (JST) Received: from ncc1701e.sg.panasonic.com ([10.81.113.10]) by pslexc01.psl.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:06:58 +0800 Received: by ncc1701e.sg.panasonic.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6255826518C2; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:07:46 +0800 (SGT) From: Chan-Wah Ng To: "mobopts@irtf.org" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-O4s8CYfSIbGZ6tRtTYwy" Organization: Panasonic Singapore Labs Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:07:45 +0800 Message-Id: <1203347265.7675.9.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.2 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Feb 2008 15:06:59.0449 (UTC) FILETIME=[E8CFAE90:01C8723F] Subject: [Mobopts] [Fwd: I-D Action:draft-ng-mobopts-multihoming-01.txt] X-BeenThere: mobopts@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: chanwah.ng@sg.panasonic.com List-Id: Mobility Optimizations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org --=-O4s8CYfSIbGZ6tRtTYwy Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, We have updated the multihoming optimization draft. Changes include: * Added Section for "Multihomed MN" * Re-organized "Multihomed CN" and added discussion on mitigating the security threats This basically covers the feedback received after presentation, and added the whole new major section on multihomed mobile nodes. Do take a read, and provide more feedback. Thanks! /rgds /cwng -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action:draft-ng-mobopts-multihoming-01.txt Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:15:01 -0800 (PST) A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : On Mobile IPv6 Optimization and Multihoming Author(s) : C. Ng, K. Aso Filename : draft-ng-mobopts-multihoming-01.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2008-02-16 This memo explores the possible areas of extensions to MIPv6 route optimization in the considerations of multihomed nodes. 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This ID needs to make transition from "Approved-announcement to be sent" to "Approved-announcement sent". Could you please process this so that the ID can be published? Thank you. -Rajeev ------=_Part_6106_20094491.1203617745240 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Dear Secretariat,

The authors of the draft have submitted the revised version (v07). This ID needs to make transition from 

"Approved-announcement to be sent" to "Approved-announcement sent".

Could you please process this so that the ID can be published?

Thank you.

-Rajeev


------=_Part_6106_20094491.1203617745240-- --===============1334896803== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts --===============1334896803==-- From mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Thu Feb 21 10:30:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA5A28CABC; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:30:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.022 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.022 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.540, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HTML_MESSAGE=1, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p+qQh-DP52C7; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:30:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2189228CA3F; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:30:31 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E6228CA3F for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:30:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RCCJlWYAYadx for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:30:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7867828C823 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:30:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id j3so1051864ugf.49 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:30:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=IQ1gCIpUaVm4SIpi2EXZSM4kSK5O92TxnUu6bXLU5bI=; b=kYTu20onk0R3xU7WhwqaMgREpLxBaHds1Xm4jpzMkc+/bjPN4r9NVWqFgZco0ZUxl+I2bCbk1VFApoOuIufo9BkgSE+0bZTH6nDNYKjwsd2qc5xFRxvKITeMac8mYD7mDCB7DM8ffdA63EUiV3byeyaMkrBKZvhe5WUgMtFibLk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=kliCcI4xqojdv4+hqaFC0Z8bFF+JXAv/4731nqoyZJcyFLYv7mrOUEzjFTiH/CounOXWRtx+pYQpwyuTx+DkHwPq0z2ylPbQQTMf1rq8bW6M24NJpt4ICZQJoSBJXi6NeAdMjZ2cOXEdDfR/iVrakAiK94pwTTqbRJ35x3aPLg0= Received: by 10.142.147.15 with SMTP id u15mr7919502wfd.149.1203618621782; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:30:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.13.5 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:30:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3d57679a0802211030s28592d0du6745aef94e3d26a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:30:21 -0800 From: "Rajeev Koodli" To: "mobopts@irtf.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [Mobopts] RG documents X-BeenThere: mobopts@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility Optimizations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1467091457==" Sender: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org --===============1467091457== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6195_12716389.1203618621790" ------=_Part_6195_12716389.1203618621790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello folks, here is the status of different documents. 1. draft-irtf-mobopts-l2-abstractions -07.txt - waiting to move to RFC Editor's queue. 2. draft-irtf-mobopts-location-privacy-solutions -06.txt - authors submitting a new version based on the RG LC 3. draft-irtf-mobopts-mmcastv6-ps-02.txt - many good reviews already. Any updates authors? Ready for LC? 4. draft-irtf-mobopts-mpa-framework -01.txt - Authors: what else needs to be done before LC? 5. draft-irtf-mobopts-mip6-cnlocpriv-00.txt - has gone through few reviews. Folks please review the ID so that we can move it forward. There is no meeting scheduled for Philadelphia. We will meet at the next IETF meeting. In the meanwhile, we need to progress the documents. So, please provide your input. Thanks, -Rajeev ------=_Part_6195_12716389.1203618621790 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Hello folks,

here is the status of different documents.

1. draft-irtf-mobopts-l2-abstractions-07.txt - waiting to move to RFC Editor's queue. 

2. draft-irtf-mobopts-location-privacy-solutions-06.txt - authors submitting a new version based on the RG LC

3. draft-irtf-mobopts-mmcastv6-ps-02.txt - many good reviews already. Any updates authors? Ready for LC?

4. draft-irtf-mobopts-mpa-framework-01.txt - Authors: what else needs to be done before LC?

5. draft-irtf-mobopts-mip6-cnlocpriv-00.txt  - has gone through few reviews. Folks please review the ID so that we can move it forward.

There is no meeting scheduled for Philadelphia. We will meet at the next IETF meeting. 
In the meanwhile, we need to progress the documents. So, please provide your input.

Thanks,

-Rajeev


------=_Part_6195_12716389.1203618621790-- --===============1467091457== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts --===============1467091457==-- From mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Thu Feb 21 10:53:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B5728CA3F; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:53:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.433 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.433 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.005, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A+geo5rQYpy2; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:53:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDECF3A6A26; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:53:49 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE66828C67F for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:53:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TKp+ccN48nRf for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:53:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from toshi17.tari.toshiba.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:418:1403:0:212:17ff:fe52:7811]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A31A28CA44 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:52:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from steelhead.localdomain (tarij-98.tari.toshiba.com [172.30.24.201] (may be forged)) by toshi17.tari.toshiba.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m1LIqGsZ011652; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:52:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from yohba@tari.toshiba.com) Received: from ohba by steelhead.localdomain with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JSGWo-0002RN-3c; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:52:18 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:52:18 -0500 From: Yoshihiro Ohba To: Rajeev Koodli Message-ID: <20080221185218.GI7476@steelhead.localdomain> References: <3d57679a0802211030s28592d0du6745aef94e3d26a1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3d57679a0802211030s28592d0du6745aef94e3d26a1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) Cc: "mobopts@irtf.org" Subject: Re: [Mobopts] RG documents X-BeenThere: mobopts@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility Optimizations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Hi Rajeev, On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 10:30:21AM -0800, Rajeev Koodli wrote: > > 4. draft-irtf-mobopts-mpa-framework > -01.txt - Authors: what else needs to be done before LC? We will submit rev -02 soon with addressing the two issues discussed in IETF70 relating to DAD and Router Discovery over proactive handover tunnel. Once rev -02 is submitted I believe it is ready for LC. Thanks, Yoshihiro Ohba _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts From mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Thu Feb 21 11:03:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6733A3A6D0C; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:03:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.812 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.812 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.240, BAYES_05=-1.11, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VMcZigxdYv+q; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:03:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8C53A6CF5; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:03:36 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A9028C65C for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:03:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s989CmPkqWil for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.rz.fhtw-berlin.de (mail2.rz.fhtw-berlin.de [141.45.10.102]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C848C3A6CF5 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:03:33 -0800 (PST) Envelope-to: mobopts@irtf.org Received: from e178153153.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.153.153] helo=[192.168.178.22]) by mail2.rz.fhtw-berlin.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JSGhc-000JGL-T4; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:03:29 +0100 Message-ID: <47BDCAFD.7060409@fhtw-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:03:25 +0100 From: "Thomas C. Schmidt" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rajeev Koodli References: <3d57679a0802211030s28592d0du6745aef94e3d26a1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3d57679a0802211030s28592d0du6745aef94e3d26a1@mail.gmail.com> Cc: "mobopts@irtf.org" Subject: Re: [Mobopts] RG documents X-BeenThere: mobopts@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility Optimizations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Hi Rajeev & all, Rajeev Koodli wrote: > > 3. draft-irtf-mobopts-mmcastv6-ps-02.txt > - > many good reviews already. Any updates authors? Ready for LC? > We are just in the middle of updating the draft and will submit it these days. Based on the discussion in Vancouver and on a very careful review of Gorry, there will be a lot of changes, supposedly improvements ;). We will come up with suggestions for a roadmap thereafter. Best wishes, thomas _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts From mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Sun Feb 24 07:57:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA3328C126; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:57:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.544 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.544 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.906, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sOpOqwkdQyIC; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:57:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55AE3A68A0; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:57:17 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821553A68A0; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:57:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QsAyzfpPxpqT; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:57:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.rz.fhtw-berlin.de (mail2.rz.fhtw-berlin.de [141.45.10.102]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397523A688D; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:56:45 -0800 (PST) Envelope-to: mobopts@irtf.org, multimob@ietf.org Received: from e178187150.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.187.150] helo=[192.168.178.22]) by mail2.rz.fhtw-berlin.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JTJDR-000Cgn-0h; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:56:37 +0100 Message-ID: <47C193AC.3020001@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:56:28 +0100 From: "Thomas C. Schmidt" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mobopts@irtf.org" , multimob@ietf.org Subject: [Mobopts] ID-update of draft-irtf-mobopts-mmcastv6-ps X-BeenThere: mobopts@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility Optimizations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Dear all, we just updated the problem statement ID: "Multicast Mobility in MIPv6: Problem Statement and Brief Survey" Abstract This document discusses current mobility extensions to IP layer multicast. Problems arising from mobile group communication in general, in the case of multicast listener mobility and for mobile Any Source Multicast as well as Source Specific Multicast senders are documented. Characteristic aspects of multicast routing and deployment issues for fixed IPv6 networks are summarized. Specific properties and interplays with the underlying network access are surveyed w.r.t. the relevant technologies in the wireless domain. It outlines the principal approaches to multicast mobility. In addition to providing a comprehensive exploration of the mobile multicast problem and solution space, this document attempts to draft a conceptual roadmap for initial steps in standardization for the use of future mobile multicast protocol designers. It should be on the ID directory soon: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-mobopts-mmcastv6-ps-03 but may be immediately downloaded from: http://www.realmv6.org/papers/draft-irtf-mobopts-mmcastv6-ps-03.txt This version is a major update, including * the outcome of the extensive discussions at Vancouver * a new section on multicast tunneling issues * a real lot of editorial improvements, which are mainly due to a very thorough review by Gorry Fairhurst. The document seems to converge - it is our intention to provide another = update shortly after Philadelphia to fill some gaps. Please all, provide your comments and help us work towards finalization = - to arrive at a high quality problem reference for this hot, but quite = involved area of Mobile Multicast. Best regards, thomas -- = =B0 Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt =B0 HAW Hamburg, Dept. Informatik =B0 University of Applied Sciences =B0 Berliner Tor 7, D 20099 Hamburg =B0 Germany, Fon: +49-40-42875-8157 =B0 http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts From mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Sun Feb 24 12:39:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DB428C1F5; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:39:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.288 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.288 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.149, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mWOvfdelt33D; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:39:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6F83A6C61; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:39:40 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8214D3A68A0; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:39:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ffYUU9Bh0atu; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:39:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.rz.fhtw-berlin.de (mail2.rz.fhtw-berlin.de [141.45.10.102]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E536D3A6AA2; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:39:36 -0800 (PST) Envelope-to: multimob@ietf.org, mobopts@irtf.org Received: from e178187150.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.187.150] helo=[192.168.178.22]) by mail2.rz.fhtw-berlin.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JTNdC-0005KX-Gg; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:39:30 +0100 Message-ID: <47C1D5F0.5010405@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:39:12 +0100 From: "Thomas C. Schmidt" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Suresh Krishnan References: <47BEF27F.3050402@piuha.net> <47BF5E60.2070305@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <47BF5E60.2070305@ericsson.com> Cc: multimob@ietf.org, "mobopts@irtf.org" Subject: Re: [Mobopts] [multimob] moving forward? X-BeenThere: mobopts@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility Optimizations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Hi Suresh & Behcet, just some quick comments on your new ID: * first of all the obvious: this is not exactly hitting the basic = problems identified in the Vancouver meeting. So the question would be, = why do you propose to proceed otherwise? * second I'm thinking about the ID itself: Mobile multicast always = faces the problems of two complex worlds, mobility & multicast. Very = easily one is tempted to come up with a neat solution, which then turns = out to be in conflict with either one of the two paradigms. In cutting = the problem space short, there is significant danger of turning away = from those problems, which are hidden but harmful. Some more details: * In your sample scenario (figure 1) you seem to draw a layer2-only handover. In this case, the problem reduces to the MIH-context transfer problem (cf. section 4.3 in [1]). * The statement "When a mobile node joins a multicast group, it uses its home address to do so." (sect. 4.2) is not generally true. For Mcast listeners I would rather suspect the opposite, the use of CoA as the more common use case. * The statement "The currently available multicast protocols were designed based on the receivers being fixed nodes with large processing capacities. [...] They also potentially involve extensive computation capabilities on the nodes." (sect. 4.) appears generally wrong to my ears. Actually, 'normal' multicast admits a rather lightweight interface at the client side - it's a UDP socket option. I haven't measure system resources, but an MLDv1 Mcast socket poses probably less load than a TCP socket. It is about zero as compared to a full-screen H.264 decoder :-) * A repeat on MLD-light: This cuts off the selective exclude, which addresses basically a layer 2 issue. Routers in SSM do have source-selective group membership tables anyway, but switches do not. This does not seem mobility-related, as a wireless L2 operates on a shared medium - thus an exclude of selective receivers would not save bandwidth. * Another word about the MLD problem: To my understanding, there are two established mechanisms, the explicit host tracking and the attendance mode, which solve the (rather minor) issues. Per-host tracking is discussed as an option in RFC 3810, attendance today is implemented for IPTV on the application layer together with a fast (video) frame recovery (cf. section 5.2.4 in [1]). [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-mobopts-mmcastv6-ps-03 Elsewise: What are the plans for Philadelphia? We might find the time to = write down some solution draft from the pipe ... at least we can = contribute in a meeting: any specific plans? Cheers & best regards, Thomas Suresh Krishnan wrote: > Hi Jari, > Behcet and I wrote a condensed problem statement document that = > discusses the basic problems we would like to solve in multimob. We = > would like to use the document to get feedback from interested people in = > Philly. After these discussions we would like to decide on the way = > forward. i.e. prioritizing the work items. The document is available at > = > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-sarikaya-multimob-ps-00.txt > = > Thanks > Suresh > = > Jari Arkko wrote: >> Folks, >> >> Its been a while since something happened on this front. >> >> I talked to Rajeev yesterday and I would like to suggest that if you are >> still interested in this problem, you start working on solutions. Some >> potential topics include tweaking MLD parameter recommendations for >> wireless links and building new protocol machinery for home agents to >> "aggregate" multicast traffic sent to mobile nodes. >> >> Without high quality proposals, this work is not going to move forward. >> I would suggest that the interested people gather in hallways at >> Philadelphia and start working on proposals. If you need rooms I can >> give you one. When you have something for IETF-72, some of it might be >> appropriate for AD sponsored documents in the IETF, some might be food >> for discussion in MOBOPTS, etc. >> >> Jari >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> multimob mailing list >> multimob@ietf.org >> http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/multimob > = > _______________________________________________ > multimob mailing list > multimob@ietf.org > http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/multimob -- = =B0 Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt =B0 HAW Hamburg, Dept. Informatik =B0 University of Applied Sciences =B0 Berliner Tor 7, D 20099 Hamburg =B0 Germany, Fon: +49-40-42875-8157 =B0 http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts From mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Sun Feb 24 14:13:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9AE28C2FC; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:13:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.546 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.546 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.109, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Rz69MBC4AJC4; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:13:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D43828C3BE; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:13:17 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B412C28C3AF for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:13:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XBd7yz2AmD2n for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:13:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A5628C15B for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:11:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from eusrcmw750.eamcs.ericsson.se (eusrcmw750.exu.ericsson.se [138.85.77.50]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m1OM5KDt031855; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:05:20 -0600 Received: from eusrcmw751.eamcs.ericsson.se ([138.85.77.51]) by eusrcmw750.eamcs.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:05:20 -0600 Received: from [142.133.10.140] ([142.133.10.140]) by eusrcmw751.eamcs.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:05:19 -0600 Message-ID: <47C1EA07.1090008@ericsson.com> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:04:55 -0500 From: Suresh Krishnan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Thomas C. Schmidt" References: <47BEF27F.3050402@piuha.net> <47BF5E60.2070305@ericsson.com> <47C1D5F0.5010405@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> In-Reply-To: <47C1D5F0.5010405@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2008 22:05:19.0579 (UTC) FILETIME=[582212B0:01C87731] Cc: multimob@ietf.org, "mobopts@irtf.org" Subject: Re: [Mobopts] [multimob] moving forward? X-BeenThere: mobopts@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility Optimizations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Hi Thomas, Thanks for the comments. Please see responses inline. Thomas C. Schmidt wrote: > Hi Suresh & Behcet, > > just some quick comments on your new ID: > > * first of all the obvious: this is not exactly hitting the basic > problems identified in the Vancouver meeting. So the question would be, > why do you propose to proceed otherwise? This document is just an attempt to have a high level view of the problem space. This document has no official standing at all (nor will it ever). It will be used to gauge interest in what problems people are interested in solving right now. There was no such understanding (of what to do) achieved in Vancouver. The other problem statement drafts (including yours) will be the ones that will define the precise problems to be solved. > > * second I'm thinking about the ID itself: Mobile multicast always > faces the problems of two complex worlds, mobility & multicast. Very > easily one is tempted to come up with a neat solution, which then turns > out to be in conflict with either one of the two paradigms. In cutting > the problem space short, there is significant danger of turning away > from those problems, which are hidden but harmful. Agree. But do you see anything in the draft that suggests doing so? > > Some more details: This draft was not designed to be a detailed problem statement. I would like the other problem statement drafts to cover the details. Other than the details, do you agree that the problems listed in this document cover the problem space? > Elsewise: What are the plans for Philadelphia? We might find the time to > write down some solution draft from the pipe ... at least we can > contribute in a meeting: any specific plans? Jari has offered us a room to meet in Philly. I would really love to see some solution drafts. Thanks Suresh _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts From mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Sun Feb 24 16:02:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3FFC28C2BE; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:02:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.363 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.363 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.074, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sToIbUa0T05q; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:02:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE43628C0FF; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:02:17 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9809028C0FF; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:02:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wMRTTj82hIEv; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:02:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.rz.fhtw-berlin.de (mail2.rz.fhtw-berlin.de [141.45.10.102]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E6D28C141; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:02:10 -0800 (PST) Envelope-to: multimob@ietf.org, mobopts@irtf.org Received: from e178187150.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.187.150] helo=[192.168.178.22]) by mail2.rz.fhtw-berlin.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JTQnB-000F4F-Ml; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 01:02:02 +0100 Message-ID: <47C20570.6060703@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 01:01:52 +0100 From: "Thomas C. Schmidt" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Suresh Krishnan References: <47BEF27F.3050402@piuha.net> <47BF5E60.2070305@ericsson.com> <47C1D5F0.5010405@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> <47C1EA07.1090008@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <47C1EA07.1090008@ericsson.com> Cc: multimob@ietf.org, "mobopts@irtf.org" Subject: Re: [Mobopts] [multimob] moving forward? X-BeenThere: mobopts@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility Optimizations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Hi Suresh, Suresh Krishnan wrote: >> just some quick comments on your new ID: >> >> * first of all the obvious: this is not exactly hitting the basic = >> problems identified in the Vancouver meeting. So the question would = >> be, why do you propose to proceed otherwise? > = > This document is just an attempt to have a high level view of the = > problem space. This document has no official standing at all (nor will = > it ever). It will be used to gauge interest in what problems people are = > interested in solving right now. = ... Fine, we can continue discussions in Philadelphia. > = >> >> * second I'm thinking about the ID itself: Mobile multicast always = >> faces the problems of two complex worlds, mobility & multicast. Very = >> easily one is tempted to come up with a neat solution, which then = >> turns out to be in conflict with either one of the two paradigms. In = >> cutting the problem space short, there is significant danger of = >> turning away from those problems, which are hidden but harmful. > = > Agree. But do you see anything in the draft that suggests doing so? > = It sort of cuts the problems short ... it could give the impression that = one could escape from the context. That was my concern. >> >> Some more details: > = > This draft was not designed to be a detailed problem statement. I would = > like the other problem statement drafts to cover the details. Other than = > the details, do you agree that the problems listed in this document = > cover the problem space? > Well, it misses at first the very fundamental problem of seamless, = time-constrained handover for mobile nodes ;) >> Elsewise: What are the plans for Philadelphia? We might find the time = >> to write down some solution draft from the pipe ... at least we can = >> contribute in a meeting: any specific plans? > = > Jari has offered us a room to meet in Philly. I would really love to see = > some solution drafts. Fine. Let's see what can be done. At least we should start working on = solutions ... Jari is right in the sense that we must start to get them = done. Best wishes, thomas -- = =B0 Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt =B0 HAW Hamburg, Dept. Informatik =B0 University of Applied Sciences =B0 Berliner Tor 7, D 20099 Hamburg =B0 Germany, Fon: +49-40-42875-8157 =B0 http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts From mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Mon Feb 25 07:58:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899F728C6E9; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:58:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.207 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.207 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.155, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zS6WO3+0HGlz; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:58:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87ECA28C6EE; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:54:13 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B407A28C6E5 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:54:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4Qt-1sih7oLa for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:54:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from rodin.i2r.a-star.edu.sg (rodin.i2r.a-star.edu.sg [192.122.139.27]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4FC28C872 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:51:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from rodin.i2r.a-star.edu.sg (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSA (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECE213B689 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 06:25:23 +0800 (SGT) Received: from mailfe01.teak.local.net (unknown [192.122.134.9]) by rodin.i2r.a-star.edu.sg (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD6713B683 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 06:25:23 +0800 (SGT) Received: from precision5570 ([192.168.137.53]) by mailfe01.teak.local.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:50:42 +0800 Message-ID: <00e701c877c6$43f886d0$3589a8c0@precision5570> From: "QIU Ying" To: Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:51:20 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2008 15:50:42.0934 (UTC) FILETIME=[2D6BF960:01C877C6] Subject: [Mobopts] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-irtf-mobopts-location-privacy-solutions-07 X-BeenThere: mobopts@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility Optimizations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Dear all, The draft of "Mobile IPv6 Location Privacy Solutions" is updated. The major changes are: 1) revise according to Heejin and Vijay comments 2) add traffic formats 3) IANA requirement 4) other editorial errors Thanks again for your attention. Any comments are very appreciated. Regards Qiu Ying ----- Original Message ----- From: "IETF I-D Submission Tool" To: Cc: ; Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:40 PM Subject: New Version Notification for draft-irtf-mobopts-location-privacy-solutions-07 > > A new version of I-D, draft-irtf-mobopts-location-privacy-solutions-07.txt > has been successfuly submitted by QIU Ying and posted to the IETF > repository. > > Filename: draft-irtf-mobopts-location-privacy-solutions > Revision: 07 > Title: Mobile IPv6 Location Privacy Solutions > Creation_date: 2008-02-25 > WG ID: Independent Submission > Number_of_pages: 42 > > Abstract: > Mobile IPv6 [10] enables mobile nodes to remain reachable while > roaming on the Internet. With its current specification, the > location of a mobile node can be revealed and its movement can be > tracked by simply monitoring its IP packets. In this document, we > consider the MIP6 location privacy problem described in [14] and > propose efficient and secure techniques to protect the location > privacy of a mobile node. > > > > The IETF Secretariat. > > ------------ Institute For Infocomm Research - Disclaimer -------------This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify us immediately. Please do not copy or use it for any purpose, or disclose its contents to any other person. Thank you.-------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts From mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Mon Feb 25 16:37:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97D428C998; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:37:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.179 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.179 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.540, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qhXp-odzyV8j; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:37:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5583A6D87; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:31:21 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5A53A6BB8 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:31:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hfdL5H+XEh8s for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:31:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from flower.research.telcordia.com (flower.research.telcordia.com [128.96.41.5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2EF3A6ED1 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:23:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.96.59.82] (vpntnlB82.research.telcordia.com [128.96.59.82]) by flower.research.telcordia.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1Q0NnFZ025380; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:23:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <47C35C0F.6010208@research.telcordia.com> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:23:43 -0500 From: Ashutosh Dutta User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rajeev.koodli@gmail.com, "mobopts@irtf.org" Subject: [Mobopts] [Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-irtf-mobopts-mpa-framework-02] X-BeenThere: mobopts@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility Optimizations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Dear All An updated version of the draft titled, "A Framework of Media-Independent Pre-Authentication (MPA) for Inter-domain Handover Optimization," has been submitted that addresses the two issues discussed during IETF 70. Regards Ashutosh Dutta -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Mobopts] RG documents Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:52:18 -0500 From: Yoshihiro Ohba To: Rajeev Koodli CC: mobopts@irtf.org References: <3d57679a0802211030s28592d0du6745aef94e3d26a1@mail.gmail.com> Hi Rajeev, On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 10:30:21AM -0800, Rajeev Koodli wrote: > > 4. draft-irtf-mobopts-mpa-framework > -01.txt - Authors: what else needs to be done before LC? We will submit rev -02 soon with addressing the two issues discussed in IETF70 relating to DAD and Router Discovery over proactive handover tunnel. Once rev -02 is submitted I believe it is ready for LC. Thanks, Yoshihiro Ohba _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-irtf-mobopts-mpa-framework-02 Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:18:27 -0800 (PST) From: IETF I-D Submission Tool To: adutta@research.telcordia.com CC: vfajardo@tari.toshiba.com, yohba@tari.toshiba.com, taniuchi@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp, hgs@cs.columbia.edu A new version of I-D, draft-irtf-mobopts-mpa-framework-02.txt has been successfuly submitted by Ashutosh Dutta and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-irtf-mobopts-mpa-framework Revision: 02 Title: A Framework of Media-Independent Pre-Authentication (MPA) for Inter- domain Handover Optimization Creation_date: 2008-02-25 WG ID: Independent Submission Number_of_pages: 61 Abstract: This document describes a framework of Media-independent Pre- Authentication (MPA), a new handover optimization mechanism that addresses the issues on existing mobility management protocols and mobility optimization mechanisms to support inter-domain handover. MPA is a mobile-assisted, secure handover optimization scheme that works over any link-layer and with any mobility management protocol and is best applicable to support optimization during inter-domain handover. MPA's pre-authentication, pre-configuration, and proactive handover techniques allow many of the handoff related operations to take place before the mobile has moved to the new network. We describe the details of all the associated techniques and its applicability for different scenarios involving various mobility protocols during inter-domain handover. The IETF Secretariat. _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts From mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Tue Feb 26 04:02:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mobopts-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27D828C3AD; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:02:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.714 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.714 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.577, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SHJ9o7k3+0v1; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:02:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980E828C2D6; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:02:55 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mobopts@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1456928C2C9 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:02:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GZ85SrpjtrJp for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:02:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-fb01.nokia.com (mgw-fb01.nokia.com [192.100.122.235]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841F928C3AA for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:02:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-mx06.nokia.com (mgw-mx06.nokia.com [192.100.122.233]) by mgw-fb01.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.6/Switch-3.2.6) with ESMTP id m1QC23Zn028295 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:02:04 +0200 Received: from esebh107.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh107.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.143]) by mgw-mx06.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.6/Switch-3.2.6) with ESMTP id m1QC1AZa009630 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:01:42 +0200 Received: from esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.183]) by esebh107.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:01:20 +0200 Received: from [10.180.41.9] ([10.241.184.208]) by esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:01:19 +0200 Message-Id: <3F784EF6-DF99-4A36-84A5-65E9E4B48289@nokia.com> From: Eggert Lars (Nokia-NRC/Helsinki) To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:01:18 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Feb 2008 12:01:19.0759 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C57E1F0:01C8786F] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: [Mobopts] =?iso-8859-1?q?Deadline_in_3_weeks_-_MobiArch=2708_-=A0?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ACM_SIGCOMM_workshop?= X-BeenThere: mobopts@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility Optimizations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mobopts-bounces@ietf.org *********************************************** *** PAPER REGISTRATION DEADLINE APPROACHING *** *** 3 short weeks until March 17, 2008 *** *********************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------- CALL FOR PAPERS ACM MobiArch 2008 An ACM SIGCOMM 2008 Workshop Paper registration deadline: March 17, 2008 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ACM MobiArch 2008 The 3rd ACM International Workshop on Mobility in the Evolving Internet Architecture An ACM SIGCOMM 2008 Workshop Seattle, WA, USA, August 22, 2008 http://www.sigcomm.org/sigcomm2008/workshops/mobiarch/ Recent developments in wireless access technologies and mobile devices are beginning to make widespread user, terminal and network mobility a reality in the commercial Internet. 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Papers may be submitted at http://edas.info/newPaper.php?c=3D6140 IMPORTANT DATES March 17, 2008 Registration of paper abstract March 24, 2008 Submissions due May 1, 2008 Notification of acceptance June 9, 2008 Camera ready version due August 22, 2008 Workshop date TECHNICAL PROGRAM COMMITTEE Lars Eggert (co-chair, Nokia Research Center, FI) Linda Doyle (co-chair, Trinity College, IE) Rui Aguiar (Universidade de Aveiro, PT) Bengt Ahlgren (Swedish Institute of Computer Science, SE) Jari Arkko (Ericsson, FI) Marcelo Bagnulo (University Carlos III of Madrid, ES) Olivier Bonaventure (Universit=E9 Catholique de Louvain, BE) Wesley Eddy (NASA/Verizon (US) Joseph Evans (University of Kansas, US) Ted Faber (USC Information Sciences Institute, US) Stephen Hailes (University College London, UK) Roger Karrer (T-Labs, DE) Rajeev Koodli (Nokia Research Center, US) Donal O'Mahony (Trinity College, IE) J=F6rg Ott (Helsinki University of Technology, FI) Guru Parulkar (Stanford University, US) Dipankar Raychaudhuri (Rutgers University, US) Dave Thaler (Microsoft, US) Ryuji Wakikawa (Keio University, JP) Klaus Wehrle (RWTH Aachen University, DE) Lixia Zhang (UCLA, US) _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts