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Dear Nicolas, Thierry
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I have reviewd and posted some comments to the draft "Analysis of
Multihoming in Mobile IPv6"=20
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Page2

"It is not the intention of this document to imply that all issues must
be solved in the short term."

Comment: This sentence gives a weak impression for the whole draft. I
propose to skip this sentence.

=20

Page3

First sentences of Introduction:

"The use of multiple addresses (allocated to either a single interface
or multiple interfaces) is foreseen to provide ubiquitous, permanent and
fault-tolerant access to the Internet, particularly on mobile nodes
which are prone to failure or sudden lack of connectivity."

Comment: Multiple addresses cannot guarantee permanent access, but
higher probability for permanent access, it can provide for less error
prone, etc.

=20

=20

=20

=20

=20

Again I have reviewd and posted some comments to the draft "Motivations
and Scenarios for Using Multiple Interfaces and Global Addresses"
=20

Page6:

"3.1.  Need for Ubiquitous Access to the Internet"

Comment: The title ubiquitous is misleading. Typically an ubiquitous
access depends not only on the number of interfaces on the node but also
on the reliability of the network.

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Page 6:

Comment: Issue 3.1 is also redirection of a flow as is issue 3.2

=20

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Page 10:

4.1

"Multiple interfaces bound to distinct technologies can be used to
ensure a permanent connectivity is offered, anywhere, anytime, with
anyone."

Comment: Multiple addresses cannot guarantee permanent access, but
higher probability for permanent access, it can provide for less error
prone, etc.

=20

=20

Page 10:

4. Goals and Benefits:

=20

Comment:

Extent further important scenarios followed by multihoming:=20

pre-authentication,=20

bicasting,=20

error correction,

monitoring of the available interfaces which of them has the best
quality, policy-based decision at which time interface should be
changed.

=20

=20

Comment: Insert the following aspect in page 17

6.7 Issues:

=20

The listed issues are not complete.

Monitoring of the available interfaces which of them has the best
quality, policy-based decision at which time interface should be
changed.

=20

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=20

best regards=20

=20
_______________________________
=20
Erich Plasser
phone: +43 - (0) 51707 / 21475
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D788001014-04012007>Dear =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">&#8220;<SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
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<DIV align=3Dleft><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial =
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<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Erich Plasser</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>phone: +43 - (0) 51707 / =
<SPAN=20
class=3D074262314-24072006>21475</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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[Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this CFP]
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               The Second International Workshop on
    Mobility in the Evolving Internet Architecture (MobiArch 2007)
                   Kyoto, Japan, August 27, 2007
        (to be held with ACM SIGCOMM 2007, August 27-31, 2007)
       http://user.informatik.uni-goettingen.de/~mobiarch/2007
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With the recent development of technologies in wireless access and
mobile devices, user, terminal, and network mobility has become an
indispensable component of today's Internet vision, and it is likely to
continue in the near future, while affecting the whole architectural
design of the future Internet. Yet, issues like efficient mobility
management and optimization, locator-identifier split, multihoming,
security, and related operational/deployment concerns are still in their
early stages of development. Moreover, the Internet architecture, its
end-to-end principles, and business models will require rethinking due
to the massive penetration of mobility into the Internet.

MobiArch'07 welcomes submissions, from both researchers and
practitioners, in exploration of recent advances in architectures,
protocols, and experiences with emerging technologies on wireless and
mobility over the Internet, with an emphasis on wireless infrastructures
and mobility patterns for mobility support, new mobility protocols,
service discovery, routing and location management, mobile network
performance evaluation and modeling, multi-homing, security,
architectural impacts and deployment considerations.

Topics of Interest:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Topics of MobiArch=81f07 cover all aspects of architectural issues and
system support for wireless and mobility in the Internet, including but
not limited to:

- Impacts of new wireless technologies/services and mobility patterns on
the Internet architecture
- Architectures and protocols for mobility support in the Internet,
ranging from approaches in link, network, transport to
session/application layers and cross-layer design
- Location management, positioning and data management systems for
wireless and mobility
- Routing and addressing, including locator/identifier split issues and
their impacts to the Internet architecture
- IP multihoming including flow distribution and load sharing for
wireless and mobility
- Performance evaluation, experimentation and modeling of mobility in
the Internet
- Accounting, access control, security and privacy issues and impacts to
Internet architecture
- Economic, scalability and deployment issues of mobility infrastructure
design
- Mechanisms and issues with connecting developing regions into the =20
Internet

Following the success of MobiArch'06, the MobiArch'07 workshop will be a
single-track one-day workshop. Early stages, position papers, systems
and measurement papers will be particularly welcome. The proceedings
will be published by the ACM and ACM digital library.

Submissions:
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Submissions must be made to MobiArch'07 EDAS entry:
http://edas.info/5238, following the guidelines in MobiArch'07 webpage:
http://user.informatik.uni-goettingen.de/~mobiarch/2007

Important Dates:
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Abstract registration:    March 20, 2007
Submission Deadline:      March 27, 2007
Acceptance Notification:  May 15, 2007
Camera-ready version due: June 12, 2007
MobiArch'07 Workshop:     August 27, 2007
SIGCOMM'07:               August 27-31, 2007

PROGRAM CO-CHAIRS
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Xiaoming Fu, University of Goettingen (Germany)
Katherine Guo, Bell Labs (USA)
Sue Moon, KAIST (Korea)
Ryuji Wakikawa, Keio University (Japan)

PUBLICITY CHAIR
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Jon Crowcroft, University of Cambridge (UK)

QUESTIONS
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Please consult the Program Co-Chairs
(mobiarch@informatik.uni-goettingen.de) if you are uncertain whether
your paper falls within the scope of the workshop.


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From: Andy Huang <hpanda@huawei.com>
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Hi, all

I reviewed two drafts and here are some comments.

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-monami6-multiplecoa-01.txt
---------------------------------------
section 1:
comment: In the fourth paragraph, I advise to replace correspondent nodes 
with home agent to illustate the fact that CoA will be overwritten. After 
all, registration with CN is not necessary for mobility management, it's 
only for route optimization.

Section 3.2
"The node can detect a binding invalidation by packets loss or ICMP error 
messages such as ICMP_UNREACHABLE."

comment: packets loss may be a reason to change the binding entry, but in 
fact it's nearly impossible for node to change the binding entry just 
because of packets loss, there are too many factor resulting in packets 
loss.

Section 4.3.1
   "If needed, the Binding Unique Identifier sub-option is included in
   the Binding Update, Binding Acknowledgment, Binding Refresh Request,
   or Binding Error messages."

   ...

   "Priority/Status"

comment: lack of details , for example, if this sub-option is included in 
Binding Refresh Request, what does Priority/Status field mean? should it be 
ingored?

Section 5.4
comment: There is a problem. If MN has registered a CoA without BID to HA 
and then at some time it finds out that it has multiple CoAs due to some 
reasons, it need to register multiple CoAs with HA. What should it do? first 
de-registering the CoA without BID and then sending bulk registration to HA?

Section 5.5
   "Note that when the mobile node does not want to return home even if
   one of interfaces is attached to the home link, the mobile node MUST
   disable the interface.  Otherwise, address duplication will be
   observed because the Home Agent still defend the Home Address..."

comment: what do address duplication mean here? I don't think the fact that 
HA defends the HoA will result in address duplication.

Section 5.6
"   o  A mobile node has multiple interfaces, but it wants to send
      Binding Updates for all Care-of Addresses from a specific
      interface which has wider bandwidth depending on interface's"

comment:
About the second situation, it looks stange to me that using Alternate 
Care-of Address sub-option here. Why not using Care-of address field of 
Binding Unique Identifier sub-option to carry these CoAs?

There is another problem here. If Binding Unique Identifier sub-option with 
C flag set and Alternate Care-of Address sub-option are both included in the 
Binding Update, which CoA (CoA in Binding Unique Identifier sub-option or in 
Alternate Care-of Address sub-option) will be registered? Or such a 
situation is illegal?

By the way, I don't know why these options are called sub-option, such as 
Alternate Care-of Address sub-option, Binding Unique Identifier sub-option. 
In RFC3775, there are all called as option.

Section 5.7.
comment: If MN sends bulk registration with HA, does HA need to reply with 
multiple Binding Acknowledge?

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-monami6-mipv6-analysis-01.txt
---------------------------------------
I'm confused by the load sharing and load balancing, what's the difference 
between them? From the draft it seems to me load sharing is about the 
network traffic while load balancing is focused on node itself. If so, it's 
better to describe it in more detail.

section 4.6
I don't think preference settings are goals or benefits. It's just a method 
to realize the goals.

Section 5.1
As I said, preference settings are not real goals. In case of one interface 
and multiple prefixes, preference(address selection) does exist in the view 
of technology, but what can users get from the this kind of technical 
preference? Generally speaking, one interface means just one kind of L2 
access technology, there is little benefits that users can get.

Section 6.1
<!--Source-->Address Selection, is it a typo?
----------------------------------------


Best regards
Zhigang Huang


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>
> Dear all,
>
> The 3 WG I-D as currently available on the Monami6 page
>
> Analysis of Multihoming in Mobile IPv6
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-monami6-mipv6-analysis-01.txt
>
> Motivations and Scenarios for Using Multiple Interfaces and Global
> Addresses
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-monami6-multihoming-motivation-scenario-01.txt
>
> Multiple Care-of Addresses Registration
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-monami6-multiplecoa-01.txt
>
>
> are in pretty good shape, and we think that it is the right time to get
> some in-depth reviews. We would be happy to get some volunteers; if you
> are willing to, please report to Nicolas and I.
>
> Thanks,
> Monami6 Chairs.
>
>
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Misters,

Happy New year to you :) !

Let me introduce myself : Guillaume FORTAINE, French engineer in informatic=
s.

I found your research projects because I am currently researching people wi=
th=20
a strong background in Networking. Me and my collaborator have a team of NA=
SA=20
and Nokia engineers.We would want to start a project to develop=20
a new standard a la 802.20 but without repeating/or correcting the past err=
or=20
from IPv6 ( included in MAC/PHY layer of 802.20).


=46or the HandOver part, we have not made the final choice :

There are FMIPv6:

http://www.fmipv6.org/

or Monami6 :

http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/monami6-charter.html

or 802.21 :

http://www.ieee802.org/21/



Dr. Jose Morales Barroso from L&M Data Communications
=A0sent me this link andI believe of interest for you the following paper,=
=20
presented at the last eChallenges Conference:

=A0 =A0 http://www.lmdata.es/uets/eChallenges-e2006-uets-paper.pdf

To quote :

"Your comments are welcomed."


We look forward to your answer,

Best Regards,

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Guillaume


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Misters,

Happy New year to you :) !

Let me introduce myself : Guillaume FORTAINE, French engineer in informatic=
s.

I found your research projects because I am currently researching people wi=
th=20
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SA=20
and Nokia engineers.We would want to start a project to develop=20
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or=20
from IPv6 ( included in MAC/PHY layer of 802.20).


=46or the HandOver part, we have not made the final choice :

There are FMIPv6:

http://www.fmipv6.org/

or Monami6 :

http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/monami6-charter.html

or 802.21 :

http://www.ieee802.org/21/



Dr. Jose Morales Barroso from L&M Data Communications
=A0sent me this link andI believe of interest for you the following paper,=
=20
presented at the last eChallenges Conference:

=A0 =A0 http://www.lmdata.es/uets/eChallenges-e2006-uets-paper.pdf

To quote :

"Your comments are welcomed."


We look forward to your answer,

Best Regards,

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Guillaume


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On Monday 22 January 2007 23:08, Daniel Park wrote:
> Guillaume,
>
> First off, your question seems a bit ambiguous. Do you want to
> transmit IPv6 packets over 802.20 networks ? If yes, it is not a big
> issues. 

Stupid question : What is an IPv6 packet ? If it was so "easy", I believe that 
we would already be in an IPv6 World ...

> Rather, you should study on how to transmit IPv6 packets over 
> 802.20 networks.

As IP ( v4 & v6 ) is already in the MAC/PHY layer, I don't see what we can 
analyse here ... It is not like 16ng ( below ) ...

> IETF has many experiences regarding IPv6 over foo. If 
> you are awaring of any specific characteristics of 802.20 networks,
> these should be analyzed first, then bring it to IETF. Example: 16ng
> (IP over 802.16 networks). Also, choosing a specific solution among
> FMIP, Momani, 802.21 depends on your purpose as well as application.
> In short, IETF is ready for helping out with the working in every L2
> technologies.
>
> Hope this helps.


Thank you :)

> Daniel

Best Regards,

		Guillaume


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Hello everybody at Monami6,

I am implementing Flow Management support in nemo-mcoa following the
draft-soliman-monami6-flow-binding-03 draft. I am using nemo-0.2-mcoa from
Nautilus as a basis for my implementation. I have succeeded in implementing a
basic flow management support in nemo-0.2-mcoa. I will continue sharing my
experiences in this list.

One of the issues to report is that in the PRO field in fid mobility option. It
is said in the draft that it is a 4 bit field (section 3.1) and hence can carry
unsigned integers from 0 to 15. However the draft also says value 255 should be
put to PRO field in order to "Remove a flow binding". Since 255 can not be
accomodated in a 4 bit PRO field I have used 15 (the maximum 4 bit number)
currently in my implementation and it's working fine.

   Regards,
   Umar Toseef



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Hello Umar,

Thank you for catching this error and reporting it. We'll fix this in the
next rev. Please keep us posted with more issues. 

Thanks,
Hesham

 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: umr@comnets.uni-bremen.de [mailto:umr@comnets.uni-bremen.de] 
 > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:51 AM
 > To: Monami6 WG
 > Subject: [Monami6] draft-soliman-monami6-flow-binding-03 
 > implementation
 > 
 > Hello everybody at Monami6,
 > 
 > I am implementing Flow Management support in nemo-mcoa following the
 > draft-soliman-monami6-flow-binding-03 draft. I am using 
 > nemo-0.2-mcoa from
 > Nautilus as a basis for my implementation. I have succeeded 
 > in implementing a
 > basic flow management support in nemo-0.2-mcoa. I will 
 > continue sharing my
 > experiences in this list.
 > 
 > One of the issues to report is that in the PRO field in fid 
 > mobility option. It
 > is said in the draft that it is a 4 bit field (section 3.1) 
 > and hence can carry
 > unsigned integers from 0 to 15. However the draft also says 
 > value 255 should be
 > put to PRO field in order to "Remove a flow binding". Since 
 > 255 can not be
 > accomodated in a 4 bit PRO field I have used 15 (the maximum 
 > 4 bit number)
 > currently in my implementation and it's working fine.
 > 
 >    Regards,
 >    Umar Toseef
 > 
 > 
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Hi Andy, Erich and all,

I am trying to update draft-ietf-monami6-mipv6-analysis-01.txt.

First, thank to Erich Plasser and Andy Huang for their reviews. I =20
encorage more people to read this draft to provide more feedback.

I just would like to check with the WG if the changes I want to make =20
are ok for everybody.
I'll consider no responses to this email as a Yes from the working =20
group to the proposed changes.

Here are some proposed changes :

On Jan 4, 2007, at 3:15 PM, Plasser, Erich wrote:

> Dear Nicolas, Thierry
>
> I have reviewd and posted some comments to the draft "Analysis of =20
> Multihoming in Mobile IPv6"
>
> Page2
> =84It is not the intention of this document to imply that all issues =20=

> must be solved in the short term.=94
> Comment: This sentence gives a weak impression for the whole draft. =20=

> I propose to skip this sentence.

Agree to remove the sentence.

>
> Page3
> First sentences of Introduction:
> =93The use of multiple addresses (allocated to either a single =20
> interface or multiple interfaces) is foreseen to provide =20
> ubiquitous, permanent and fault-tolerant access to the Internet, =20
> particularly on mobile nodes which are prone to failure or sudden =20
> lack of connectivity.=94
> Comment: Multiple addresses cannot guarantee permanent access, but =20
> higher probability for permanent access, it can provide for less =20
> error prone, etc.

Agree to change "permanent" to higher probability for permanent access"

[skip the part on draft-ietf-monami6-multihoming-motivation-=20
scenario-01.txt which will be dealt with in another email]

On Jan 15, 2007, at 5:01 AM, Andy Huang wrote:
> Hi, all
>
> I reviewed two drafts and here are some comments.
>
>

[skip draft-ietf-monami6-multiplecoa-01.txt which will be dealt with =20
in another email]

>
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-monami6-mipv6-=20
> analysis-01.txt
> ---------------------------------------
> I'm confused by the load sharing and load balancing, what's the =20
> difference between them? =46rom the draft it seems to me load sharing =20=

> is about the network traffic while load balancing is focused on =20
> node itself. If so, it's better to describe it in more detail.

It is stated that terms in this document are those defined in =20
references 4, 1, 3. In reference 3, sections 4.4 and 4.5 gives clear =20
definition of load sharing and load balancing.
I don't think we need to re-write or copy/paste those definition in =20
this document, so I propose to let it as it is.

>
> section 4.6
> I don't think preference settings are goals or benefits. It's just =20
> a method to realize the goals.

I agree with you. I propose to remove preference settings from all =20
goals and benefits section in the document.

>
> Section 5.1
> As I said, preference settings are not real goals. In case of one =20
> interface and multiple prefixes, preference(address selection) does =20=

> exist in the view of technology, but what can users get from the =20
> this kind of technical preference? Generally speaking, one =20
> interface means just one kind of L2 access technology, there is =20
> little benefits that users can get.
>
> Section 6.1
> <!--Source-->Address Selection, is it a typo?
> ----------------------------------------

It seems :)
But I didn't find it in the doc... did you read 01 version?

Thank you,

Nicolas

>
>
> Best regards
> Zhigang Huang
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thierry Ernst" =20
> <thierry.ernst@inria.fr>
> To: "ml-ietf-monami6" <monami6@ietf.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 12:49 AM
> Subject: [Monami6] Need I-D reviews
>
>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> The 3 WG I-D as currently available on the Monami6 page
>>
>> Analysis of Multihoming in Mobile IPv6
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-monami6-mipv6-=20
>> analysis-01.txt
>>
>> Motivations and Scenarios for Using Multiple Interfaces and Global
>> Addresses
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-monami6-multihoming-=20=

>> motivation-scenario-01.txt
>>
>> Multiple Care-of Addresses Registration
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-monami6-=20
>> multiplecoa-01.txt
>>
>>
>> are in pretty good shape, and we think that it is the right time =20
>> to get
>> some in-depth reviews. We would be happy to get some volunteers; =20
>> if you
>> are willing to, please report to Nicolas and I.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Monami6 Chairs.
>>
>>
>>
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