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Barry Leiba wrote:

>I'm putting together an agenda for the MORG session in Hiroshima,
>currently scheduled for Tuesday, 10 Nov, 1710-1810 local time (subject
>to schedule changes).  Apart from general status review, the only item
>I have for the agenda is discussion of how we might possibly add a
>function like Google's XLIST.
>
>Are there any other specific agenda items?
>  
>
(Without my AD hat) I think we should talk about SORTDISPLAY, even if 
only to confirm that it is ready for WGLC.


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>> Are there any other specific agenda items?
>
> (Without my AD hat) I think we should talk about SORTDISPLAY, even if only
> to confirm that it is ready for WGLC.

Got it; I've updated the preliminary agenda.

Barry, MORG working group secretary

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Any updates on draft-leiba-morg-message-recall 
</id/draft-leiba-morg-message-recall-00.txt> ?

On 11/1/2009 11:40 AM, Barry Leiba wrote:
> I'm putting together an agenda for the MORG session in Hiroshima,
> currently scheduled for Tuesday, 10 Nov, 1710-1810 local time (subject
> to schedule changes).  Apart from general status review, the only item
> I have for the agenda is discussion of how we might possibly add a
> function like Google's XLIST.
>
> Are there any other specific agenda items?
>
> Barry, MORG working group secretary
> _______________________________________________
> MORG mailing list
> MORG@ietf.org
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Any updates on <a href="/id/draft-leiba-morg-message-recall-00.txt">draft-leiba-morg-message-recall</a>
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  <pre wrap="">I'm putting together an agenda for the MORG session in Hiroshima,
currently scheduled for Tuesday, 10 Nov, 1710-1810 local time (subject
to schedule changes).  Apart from general status review, the only item
I have for the agenda is discussion of how we might possibly add a
function like Google's XLIST.

Are there any other specific agenda items?

Barry, MORG working group secretary
_______________________________________________
MORG mailing list
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> Any updates on draft-leiba-morg-message-recall ?

Not yet, and I've left it off the agenda -- I don't think more
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We'll be gathering for the now-traditional "Friends of IMAP" dinner
in Hiroshima this Tuesday evening.  The plan is to meet in the lobby
of the ANA Crowne Plaza Hotel after the MORG session (probably around
7pm), and then head out to a smoke-free restaurant.

Please drop me a line if you're interested in attending so we can have
a sense of how large a restaurant we'll require.

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This is a working group last call for draft-ietf-morg-sortdisplay-01.txt.

Please read this draft (it's short) and send a response to the list 
either saying the draft is OK to proceed, or with comments or 
suggestions.

>  Responses are due by Tuesday, December 1.
>
>  	Title           : Display-based Address Sorting for the IMAP4 
> SORT Extension
>  	Author(s)       : D. Karp
>  	Filename        : draft-ietf-morg-sortdisplay-01.txt
>  	Pages           : 6
>  	Date            : 2009-09-29
>
>  This document describes an IMAP protocol extension enabling server-
>  side message sorting based on the commonly-displayed portion of the
>  From and To header fields.
>
>  A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
>  http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-morg-sortdisplay-01.txt

-- 
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I checked this against the X-DISPLAY-FROM, X-DISPLAY-TO and X-DISPLAY-CC 
extension sort keys in our server implementation.  I note two differences:

1. We decode RFC 2047 to UTF-8.  The draft does not specify charset, so an 
implementation which decoded 2047 to a different charset would sort 
differently.  The algorithm in 5255 section 4.6 needs to be followed, which 
states the decoded text MUST be converted to a charset expected by the 
active comparator.  I believe 5255 should have said that decoding to UTF-8 
SHOULD be used where the active comparator specifies multiple acceptable 
charsets including UTF-8.  As it does not say that, I believe it would 
improve interoperability if this draft said that although I wouldn't 
consider that a blocking flaw.  RFC 4790 states that any octet-based 
charset is acceptable for i;octet.

2. Our implementation also strips double-quotes from around the personal 
name field prior to comparing.  I believe RFC 3501 is unclear about whether 
double-quotes are stripped when an RFC 2822 mailbox is parsed into an IMAP 
envelope.  I'd like this draft to state double-quotes are stripped (or 
un-escaped) if present.

I support advancement of this specification.

		- Chris

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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
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>
> 	Title           : Display-based Address Sorting for the IMAP4 SORT
> Extension 	Author(s)       : D. Karp
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-morg-sortdisplay-02.txt
> 	Pages           : 6
> 	Date            : 2009-10-18
>
> This document describes an IMAP protocol extension enabling server-
> side message sorting based on the commonly-displayed portion of the
>> From and To header fields.
>
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> This is a working group last call for draft-ietf-morg-sortdisplay-01.txt.
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> Please read this draft (it's short) and send a response to the list either
> saying the draft is OK to proceed, or with comments or suggestions.

Presuming that you mean -02, not -01...
With Chris's suggestions, this is OK to proceed.

Barry

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I am greatly happy about sortdisplay as it stands.

Barry Leiba <barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

>> This is a working group last call for draft-ietf-morg-sortdisplay-01.txt.
>>
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>Presuming that you mean -02, not -01...
>With Chris's suggestions, this is OK to proceed.
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>Barry
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