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Scudder" Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:00:16 -0400 To: mpls@lists.ietf.org, ospf@ietf.org, isis-wg@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 93238566e09e6e262849b4f805833007 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:04:49 -0400 Cc: Subject: [mpls] Fwd: Working Group Last Call for "Basic Specification for IP Fast-Reroute: Loop-free Alternates" X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org FYI for those not subscribed to rtgwg. --John Begin forwarded message: > From: "John G. 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X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Adrian Farrel List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Shilpa, Since no-one else answered, I'll bite. > I have a query regarding ping support for static LSPs. > > Firstly, is it supported? I don't believe that there is anything in the definition of LSP Ping that makes the use of a control plane to establish the LSP mandatory. > Secondly, if Control Plane is implementing LSR MIB (which does not hold > any > information about FECs) to use for setting up of static LSPs, then when an > echo request packet (with FEC TLV) is received by Data Plane, then how can > one verify DP against CP? I don't think the control plane implements the LSR MIB. That would be "the LSR". But, anyway... The deeper question you are asking is: how is the FEC-To-NHLFE table built at an LSR through management plane activity? You are correct that the LSR MIB module (RFC3813) only defines how to set up the LFIB. You should look at RFC3814 to see how the FEC-To-NHLFE table can be built using a MIB module. You may want to look at RFC4221 to see an overview of how all of the MPLS MIB modules fit together. Cheers, Adrian _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Wed Oct 03 07:11:15 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id25d-0001Zd-5P; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:08:29 -0400 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Id25b-0001Wg-Ei for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:08:27 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id25b-0001Rq-51 for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:08:27 -0400 Received: from pmesmtp01.wcom.com ([199.249.20.1] helo=pmesmtp01.mci.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id25Q-0000M5-Ua for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:08:23 -0400 Received: from cmr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net ([198.5.241.38]) by firewall.verizonbusiness.com (Iplanet MTA 5.2) with ESMTP id <0JPC0039Y1L3J7@firewall.verizonbusiness.com> for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:07:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-control.ash.ops.us.uu.net by cmr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: mail-control.ash.ops.us.uu.net [153.39.10.50]) id QQxigy13036; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:07:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: by mail-control.ash.ops.us.uu.net id QQxigy23070 for mpls-outgoing; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:07:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net by mail-control.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: imr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net [153.39.43.46]) id QQxigy23063 for ; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:07:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp03.mcilink.com by imr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: pmismtp03.mcilink.com [166.37.158.163]) id l93B71h3010686 for ; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:07:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp03.mcilink.com ([127.0.0.1]) by pmismtp03.mcilink.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.08 (built Sep 22 2005)) with SMTP id <0JPC007QQ1JPIS@pmismtp03.mcilink.com> for mpls@uu.net; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:07:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmmspam01.mcilink.com ([166.37.156.161]) by pmismtp03.mcilink.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.08 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JPC0080O1JPEE@pmismtp03.mcilink.com> for mpls@uu.net; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:07:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmesmtp02.mci.com (pmesmtp02.mci.com [199.249.20.2]) by pmmspam01.mcilink.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l93B6sbj006091 for ; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:07:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmesmtp02.mci.com ([127.0.0.1]) by firewall.verizonbusiness.com (Iplanet MTA 5.2) with SMTP id <0JPC00K7V1JL8C@firewall.verizonbusiness.com> for mpls@uu.net; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:06:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.128.185]) by firewall.verizonbusiness.com (Iplanet MTA 5.2) with ESMTP id <0JPC00K0W1JKCW@firewall.verizonbusiness.com> for mpls@uu.net; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:06:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 22so4268754fkq for ; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.156.12 with SMTP id d12mr7048082bue.1191409614685; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.152.14 with HTTP; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:36:53 +0530 From: shilpa goel In-reply-to: To: mpls-ops@mplsrc.com, mpls@lists.ietf.org, mpls@UU.NET Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=bBLGPvYAWPnsieDDLC3a4DWbDcLxnslWZxG7/gf1lxA=; b=O08sTHQBHWcW4ZxeBnSR/Xs8dVjfo4hqEVxWWLN3NKvW5Nbr3p7B82BNvmFYW5upvX5ol3PZgKYRNEfs6zv7FrTj2BUEEM+HsXFeac9G6Rm3xYK/O34Ojj5d1sSnxcYqM91E3kz3TB0XVEEq401QGWRHlJgjBlSv9uieCo1kY2A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MUEMbsX1uY5DmZUWnYUwJSv/DFhTTt5t1NErNXcXqzMVBELFkzZQB8qHDtXvUapwtbv7cNyJaaK5Ens0KvbwBb+EYKnekTqN/xT0vumav/pLu7OJz2xvedZ74x3IPVIelBKuoMm3jCfKPsrrK7WgqFLAVwjnD2nJGvfyuRTJpTU= X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=3.1.0-0708230000 definitions=main-0710030020 References: <01dc01c805a8$213eaf60$0200a8c0@your029b8cecfe> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 10ba05e7e8a9aa6adb025f426bef3a30 Cc: Subject: [mpls] Re: ping for static LSPs? X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0855572622==" Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org --===============0855572622== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20731_20705778.1191409613994" ------=_Part_20731_20705778.1191409613994 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: shilpa goel Date: Oct 3, 2007 4:20 PM Subject: Re: ping for static LSPs? To: Adrian Farrel Adrian, What I meant was that suppose MPLS DP is implementing FTN MIB while MPLS CP is implementing LSR MIB. In this scenario, when a static LSP is set up, LSR MIB is configured in the CP with the cross-connect/LSP. This cross connect information is passed to DP. FTN MIB is then configured in DP with an FEC to this cross-connect/LSP mapping. Now consider such a LSP is pinged. When it reached the egress node, it is required that DP passes this packet to CP for "Egress FEC validation" (section 4.4, point 6 of RFC 4379). My doubt was that how can CP verify this ping packet when it does not have any such "FEC" information in its LSR MIB for this cross-connect/LSP. thanks and regards, Shilpa On 10/3/07, Adrian Farrel wrote: > > Shilpa, > > Since no-one else answered, I'll bite. > > > I have a query regarding ping support for static LSPs. > > > > Firstly, is it supported? > > I don't believe that there is anything in the definition of LSP Ping that > makes the use of a control plane to establish the LSP mandatory. > > > Secondly, if Control Plane is implementing LSR MIB (which does not hold > > any > > information about FECs) to use for setting up of static LSPs, then when > an > > echo request packet (with FEC TLV) is received by Data Plane, then how > can > > one verify DP against CP? > > I don't think the control plane implements the LSR MIB. That would be "the > LSR". But, anyway... > > The deeper question you are asking is: how is the FEC-To-NHLFE table built > at an LSR through management plane activity? > > You are correct that the LSR MIB module (RFC3813) only defines how to set > up > the LFIB. > You should look at RFC3814 to see how the FEC-To-NHLFE table can be built > using a MIB module. > > You may want to look at RFC4221 to see an overview of how all of the MPLS > MIB modules fit together. > > Cheers, > Adrian > > > ------=_Part_20731_20705778.1191409613994 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: shilpa goel <shilpa07@gmail.com>
Date: Oct 3, 2007 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: ping for static LSPs?
To: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>

Adrian,

  What I meant was that suppose MPLS DP is implementing FTN MIB while MPLS CP is implementing LSR MIB. In this scenario, when a static LSP is set up, LSR MIB is configured in the CP with the cross-connect/LSP. This cross connect information is passed to DP. FTN MIB is then configured in DP with an FEC to this cross-connect/LSP mapping.

Now consider such a LSP is pinged. When it reached the egress node, it is required that DP passes this packet to CP for "Egress FEC validation" (section 4.4, point 6 of RFC 4379). My doubt was that how can CP verify this ping packet when it does not have any such "FEC" information in its LSR MIB for this cross-connect/LSP.

thanks and regards,
Shilpa


On 10/3/07, Adrian Farrel < adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
Shilpa,

Since no-one else answered, I'll bite.

>  I have a query regarding ping support for static LSPs.
>
> Firstly, is it supported?

I don't believe that there is anything in the definition of LSP Ping that
makes the use of a control plane to establish the LSP mandatory.

> Secondly, if Control Plane is implementing LSR MIB (which does not hold
> any
> information about FECs) to use for setting up of static LSPs, then when an
> echo request packet (with FEC TLV) is received by Data Plane, then how can
> one verify DP against CP?

I don't think the control plane implements the LSR MIB. That would be "the
LSR". But, anyway...

The deeper question you are asking is: how is the FEC-To-NHLFE table built
at an LSR through management plane activity?

You are correct that the LSR MIB module (RFC3813) only defines how to set up
the LFIB.
You should look at RFC3814 to see how the FEC-To-NHLFE table can be built
using a MIB module.

You may want to look at RFC4221 to see an overview of how all of the MPLS
MIB modules fit together.

Cheers,
Adrian



------=_Part_20731_20705778.1191409613994-- --===============0855572622== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --===============0855572622==-- From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Wed Oct 03 07:11:19 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id24r-0008M5-Lb; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:07:41 -0400 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Id24q-0008Kz-0I for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:07:40 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id24p-0008KA-1f for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:07:39 -0400 Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.128.191]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id24g-0000KY-24 for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:07:39 -0400 Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id z22so4978007fkz for ; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:06:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=bBLGPvYAWPnsieDDLC3a4DWbDcLxnslWZxG7/gf1lxA=; b=O08sTHQBHWcW4ZxeBnSR/Xs8dVjfo4hqEVxWWLN3NKvW5Nbr3p7B82BNvmFYW5upvX5ol3PZgKYRNEfs6zv7FrTj2BUEEM+HsXFeac9G6Rm3xYK/O34Ojj5d1sSnxcYqM91E3kz3TB0XVEEq401QGWRHlJgjBlSv9uieCo1kY2A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MUEMbsX1uY5DmZUWnYUwJSv/DFhTTt5t1NErNXcXqzMVBELFkzZQB8qHDtXvUapwtbv7cNyJaaK5Ens0KvbwBb+EYKnekTqN/xT0vumav/pLu7OJz2xvedZ74x3IPVIelBKuoMm3jCfKPsrrK7WgqFLAVwjnD2nJGvfyuRTJpTU= Received: by 10.82.156.12 with SMTP id d12mr7048082bue.1191409614685; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.152.14 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 04:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 16:36:53 +0530 From: "shilpa goel" To: mpls-ops@mplsrc.com, mpls@lists.ietf.org, mpls@uu.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <01dc01c805a8$213eaf60$0200a8c0@your029b8cecfe> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 10ba05e7e8a9aa6adb025f426bef3a30 Cc: Subject: [mpls] Re: ping for static LSPs? X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0423293202==" Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org --===============0423293202== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20731_20705778.1191409613994" ------=_Part_20731_20705778.1191409613994 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: shilpa goel Date: Oct 3, 2007 4:20 PM Subject: Re: ping for static LSPs? To: Adrian Farrel Adrian, What I meant was that suppose MPLS DP is implementing FTN MIB while MPLS CP is implementing LSR MIB. In this scenario, when a static LSP is set up, LSR MIB is configured in the CP with the cross-connect/LSP. This cross connect information is passed to DP. FTN MIB is then configured in DP with an FEC to this cross-connect/LSP mapping. Now consider such a LSP is pinged. When it reached the egress node, it is required that DP passes this packet to CP for "Egress FEC validation" (section 4.4, point 6 of RFC 4379). My doubt was that how can CP verify this ping packet when it does not have any such "FEC" information in its LSR MIB for this cross-connect/LSP. thanks and regards, Shilpa On 10/3/07, Adrian Farrel wrote: > > Shilpa, > > Since no-one else answered, I'll bite. > > > I have a query regarding ping support for static LSPs. > > > > Firstly, is it supported? > > I don't believe that there is anything in the definition of LSP Ping that > makes the use of a control plane to establish the LSP mandatory. > > > Secondly, if Control Plane is implementing LSR MIB (which does not hold > > any > > information about FECs) to use for setting up of static LSPs, then when > an > > echo request packet (with FEC TLV) is received by Data Plane, then how > can > > one verify DP against CP? > > I don't think the control plane implements the LSR MIB. That would be "the > LSR". But, anyway... > > The deeper question you are asking is: how is the FEC-To-NHLFE table built > at an LSR through management plane activity? > > You are correct that the LSR MIB module (RFC3813) only defines how to set > up > the LFIB. > You should look at RFC3814 to see how the FEC-To-NHLFE table can be built > using a MIB module. > > You may want to look at RFC4221 to see an overview of how all of the MPLS > MIB modules fit together. > > Cheers, > Adrian > > > ------=_Part_20731_20705778.1191409613994 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: shilpa goel <shilpa07@gmail.com>
Date: Oct 3, 2007 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: ping for static LSPs?
To: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>

Adrian,

  What I meant was that suppose MPLS DP is implementing FTN MIB while MPLS CP is implementing LSR MIB. In this scenario, when a static LSP is set up, LSR MIB is configured in the CP with the cross-connect/LSP. This cross connect information is passed to DP. FTN MIB is then configured in DP with an FEC to this cross-connect/LSP mapping.

Now consider such a LSP is pinged. When it reached the egress node, it is required that DP passes this packet to CP for "Egress FEC validation" (section 4.4, point 6 of RFC 4379). My doubt was that how can CP verify this ping packet when it does not have any such "FEC" information in its LSR MIB for this cross-connect/LSP.

thanks and regards,
Shilpa


On 10/3/07, Adrian Farrel < adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
Shilpa,

Since no-one else answered, I'll bite.

>  I have a query regarding ping support for static LSPs.
>
> Firstly, is it supported?

I don't believe that there is anything in the definition of LSP Ping that
makes the use of a control plane to establish the LSP mandatory.

> Secondly, if Control Plane is implementing LSR MIB (which does not hold
> any
> information about FECs) to use for setting up of static LSPs, then when an
> echo request packet (with FEC TLV) is received by Data Plane, then how can
> one verify DP against CP?

I don't think the control plane implements the LSR MIB. That would be "the
LSR". But, anyway...

The deeper question you are asking is: how is the FEC-To-NHLFE table built
at an LSR through management plane activity?

You are correct that the LSR MIB module (RFC3813) only defines how to set up
the LFIB.
You should look at RFC3814 to see how the FEC-To-NHLFE table can be built
using a MIB module.

You may want to look at RFC4221 to see an overview of how all of the MPLS
MIB modules fit together.

Cheers,
Adrian



------=_Part_20731_20705778.1191409613994-- --===============0423293202== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --===============0423293202==-- From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Wed Oct 03 07:43:02 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2cR-0006gT-2P; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:42:23 -0400 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2cQ-0006d2-Hi for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:42:22 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2cQ-0006ci-7w for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:42:22 -0400 Received: from static-72-71-250-34.cncdnh.fios.verizon.net ([72.71.250.34] helo=lucidvision.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2cP-0001LD-1t for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:42:22 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lucidvision.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5431F69BCC; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:42:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucidvision.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09235-04; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:42:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.120] (static-72-71-250-36.cncdnh.fios.verizon.net [72.71.250.36]) by lucidvision.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6161A69B88; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:42:34 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <01dc01c805a8$213eaf60$0200a8c0@your029b8cecfe> References: <01dc01c805a8$213eaf60$0200a8c0@your029b8cecfe> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <93248442-9778-4E4B-82C7-54F94078B14A@lucidvision.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Thomas D.Nadeau Subject: Re: [mpls] Re: ping for static LSPs? Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:42:04 -0400 To: Adrian Farrel X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at lucidvision.com X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: c0bedb65cce30976f0bf60a0a39edea4 Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org, shilpa goel , mpls-ops@mplsrc.com X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org > Shilpa, > > Since no-one else answered, I'll bite. > >> I have a query regarding ping support for static LSPs. >> >> Firstly, is it supported? > > I don't believe that there is anything in the definition of LSP > Ping that makes the use of a control plane to establish the LSP > mandatory. This is correct. LSP ping needs a target FEC, but doesn't care how that FEC to NHLFE mapping was established whether though a signaling protocol or statically. >> Secondly, if Control Plane is implementing LSR MIB (which does not >> hold any >> information about FECs) to use for setting up of static LSPs, then >> when an >> echo request packet (with FEC TLV) is received by Data Plane, then >> how can >> one verify DP against CP? > > I don't think the control plane implements the LSR MIB. That would > be "the LSR". But, anyway... The LSR-MIB is implemented in the control plane, but I think the original poster is confused about its use if you are using it to validate echo reply packets; that is not its purpose. > The deeper question you are asking is: how is the FEC-To-NHLFE > table built at an LSR through management plane activity? > > You are correct that the LSR MIB module (RFC3813) only defines how > to set up the LFIB. > You should look at RFC3814 to see how the FEC-To-NHLFE table can be > built using a MIB module. > > You may want to From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Wed Oct 03 07:43:02 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2cR-0006gT-2P; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:42:23 -0400 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2cQ-0006d2-Hi for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:42:22 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2cQ-0006ci-7w for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:42:22 -0400 Received: from static-72-71-250-34.cncdnh.fios.verizon.net ([72.71.250.34] helo=lucidvision.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2cP-0001LD-1t for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:42:22 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lucidvision.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5431F69BCC; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:42:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucidvision.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09235-04; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:42:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.120] (static-72-71-250-36.cncdnh.fios.verizon.net [72.71.250.36]) by lucidvision.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6161A69B88; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:42:34 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <01dc01c805a8$213eaf60$0200a8c0@your029b8cecfe> References: <01dc01c805a8$213eaf60$0200a8c0@your029b8cecfe> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <93248442-9778-4E4B-82C7-54F94078B14A@lucidvision.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Thomas D.Nadeau Subject: Re: [mpls] Re: ping for static LSPs? Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:42:04 -0400 To: Adrian Farrel X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at lucidvision.com X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: c0bedb65cce30976f0bf60a0a39edea4 Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org, shilpa goel , mpls-ops@mplsrc.com X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org > Shilpa, > > Since no-one else answered, I'll bite. > >> I have a query regarding ping support for static LSPs. >> >> Firstly, is it supported? > > I don't believe that there is anything in the definition of LSP > Ping that makes the use of a control plane to establish the LSP > mandatory. This is correct. LSP ping needs a target FEC, but doesn't care how that FEC to NHLFE mapping was established whether though a signaling protocol or statically. >> Secondly, if Control Plane is implementing LSR MIB (which does not >> hold any >> information about FECs) to use for setting up of static LSPs, then >> when an >> echo request packet (with FEC TLV) is received by Data Plane, then >> how can >> one verify DP against CP? > > I don't think the control plane implements the LSR MIB. That would > be "the LSR". But, anyway... The LSR-MIB is implemented in the control plane, but I think the original poster is confused about its use if you are using it to validate echo reply packets; that is not its purpose. > The deeper question you are asking is: how is the FEC-To-NHLFE > table built at an LSR through management plane activity? > > You are correct that the LSR MIB module (RFC3813) only defines how > to set up the LFIB. > You should look at RFC3814 to see how the FEC-To-NHLFE table can be > built using a MIB module. > > You may want to look at RFC4221 to see an overview of how all of > the MPLS MIB modules fit together. Agreed, although I will also point out that it appears the original poster needs a clearer understanding of what the control and data planes do before implementing LSP ping too, which may or may not come from reading the original MPLS RFCs such as RFC3031. --Tom > > Cheers, > Adrian > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@lists.ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Wed Oct 03 07:43:02 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2Wu-0001To-Aw; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:36:40 -0400 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2Ws-0001Td-8T for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:36:38 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2Wr-0001TS-TZ for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:36:37 -0400 Received: from static-72-71-250-34.cncdnh.fios.verizon.net ([72.71.250.34] helo=lucidvision.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2Wq-0001C1-Nv for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:36:37 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lucidvision.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DFA69A82; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:36:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucidvision.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09161-03; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.120] (static-72-71-250-36.cncdnh.fios.verizon.net [72.71.250.36]) by lucidvision.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BAB69A5D; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:36:37 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <01dc01c805a8$213eaf60$0200a8c0@your029b8cecfe> References: <01dc01c805a8$213eaf60$0200a8c0@your029b8cecfe> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Thomas D. Nadeau" Subject: Re: [mpls] Re: ping for static LSPs? Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:36:07 -0400 To: Adrian Farrel X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at lucidvision.com X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: c0bedb65cce30976f0bf60a0a39edea4 Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org, shilpa goel , mpls-ops@mplsrc.com X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org > Shilpa, > > Since no-one else answered, I'll bite. > >> I have a query regarding ping support for static LSPs. >> >> Firstly, is it supported? > > I don't believe that there is anything in the definition of LSP > Ping that makes the use of a control plane to establish the LSP > mandatory. This is correct. LSP ping needs a target FEC, but doesn't care how that FEC to NHLFE mapping was established whether though a signaling protocol or statically. >> Secondly, if Control Plane is implementing LSR MIB (which does not >> hold any >> information about FECs) to use for setting up of static LSPs, then >> when an >> echo request packet (with FEC TLV) is received by Data Plane, then >> how calook at RFC4221 to see an overview of how all of > the MPLS MIB modules fit together. Agreed, although I will also point out that it appears the original poster needs a clearer understanding of what the control and data planes do before implementing LSP ping too, which may or may not come from reading the original MPLS RFCs such as RFC3031. --Tom > > Cheers, > Adrian > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@lists.ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Wed Oct 03 07:43:02 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2Wu-0001To-Aw; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:36:40 -0400 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2Ws-0001Td-8T for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:36:38 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2Wr-0001TS-TZ for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:36:37 -0400 Received: from static-72-71-250-34.cncdnh.fios.verizon.net ([72.71.250.34] helo=lucidvision.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2Wq-0001C1-Nv for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:36:37 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lucidvision.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DFA69A82; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:36:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucidvision.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09161-03; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.120] (static-72-71-250-36.cncdnh.fios.verizon.net [72.71.250.36]) by lucidvision.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BAB69A5D; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:36:37 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <01dc01c805a8$213eaf60$0200a8c0@your029b8cecfe> References: <01dc01c805a8$213eaf60$0200a8c0@your029b8cecfe> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Thomas D. Nadeau" Subject: Re: [mpls] Re: ping for static LSPs? Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:36:07 -0400 To: Adrian Farrel X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at lucidvision.com X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: c0bedb65cce30976f0bf60a0a39edea4 Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org, shilpa goel , mpls-ops@mplsrc.com X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org > Shilpa, > > Since no-one else answered, I'll bite. > >> I have a query regarding ping support for static LSPs. >> >> Firstly, is it supported? > > I don't believe that there is anything in the definition of LSP > Ping that makes the use of a control plane to establish the LSP > mandatory. This is correct. LSP ping needs a target FEC, but doesn't care how that FEC to NHLFE mapping was established whether though a signaling protocol or statically. >> Secondly, if Control Plane is implementing LSR MIB (which does not >> hold any >> information about FECs) to use for setting up of static LSPs, then >> when an >> echo request packet (with FEC TLV) is received by Data Plane, then >> how can >> one verify DP against CP? > > I don't think the control plane implements the LSR MIB. That would > be "the LSR". But, anyway... The LSR-MIB is implemented in the control plane, but I think the original poster is confused about its use if you are using it to validate echo reply packets; that is not its purpose. > The deeper question you are asking is: how is the FEC-To-NHLFE > table built at an LSR through management plane activity? > > You are correct that the LSR MIB module (RFC3813) only defines how > to set up the LFIB. > You should look at RFC3814 to see how the FEC-To-NHLFE table can be > built using a MIB module. > > You may want to look at RFC4221 to see an overview of how all of > the MPLS MIB modules fit together. Agreed, although I will also point out that it appears the original poster needs a clearer understanding of what the control and data planes do before implementing LSP ping too, which may or may not come from reading the original MPLS RFCs such as RFC3031. --Tom > > Cheers, > Adrian > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@lists.ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls n >> one verify DP against CP? > > I don't think the control plane implements the LSR MIB. That would > be "the LSR". But, anyway... The LSR-MIB is implemented in the control plane, but I think the original poster is confused about its use if you are using it to validate echo reply packets; that is not its purpose. > The deeper question you are asking is: how is the FEC-To-NHLFE > table built at an LSR through management plane activity? > > You are correct that the LSR MIB module (RFC3813) only defines how > to set up the LFIB. > You should look at RFC3814 to see how the FEC-To-NHLFE table can be > built using a MIB module. > > You may want to look at RFC4221 to see an overview of how all of > the MPLS MIB modules fit together. Agreed, although I will also point out that it appears the original poster needs a clearer understanding of what the control and data planes do before implementing LSP ping too, which may or may not come from reading the original MPLS RFCs such as RFC3031. --Tom > > Cheers, > Adrian > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@lists.ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Wed Oct 03 07:43:07 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2aC-0005cP-CI; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:40:04 -0400 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2aB-0005aO-6h for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:40:03 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2aA-0005VA-GF for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:40:02 -0400 Received: from static-72-71-250-34.cncdnh.fios.verizon.net ([72.71.250.34] helo=lucidvision.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2a3-0001H4-AS for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:40:02 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lucidvision.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8878169ADB; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:40:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucidvision.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09161-04; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:40:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.120] (static-72-71-250-36.cncdnh.fios.verizon.net [72.71.250.36]) by lucidvision.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C91769AAF; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:40:10 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: References: <01dc01c805a8$213eaf60$0200a8c0@your029b8cecfe> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Message-Id: <6FADD7F2-E954-44D4-9BF9-B11217E771AE@lucidvision.com> From: "Thomas D. Nadeau" Subject: Re: [mpls] Re: ping for static LSPs? Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:39:40 -0400 To: shilpa goel X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at lucidvision.com X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 501044f827b673024f6a4cb1d46e67d2 Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org, mpls@UU.NET, mpls-ops@mplsrc.com X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1780591070==" Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org --===============1780591070== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-503499346 --Apple-Mail-5-503499346 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Oct 3, 2007, at 7:06 AM, shilpa goel wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: shilpa goel > Date: Oct 3, 2007 4:20 PM > Subject: Re: ping for static LSPs? > To: Adrian Farrel > > Adrian, > > What I meant was that suppose MPLS DP is implementing FTN MIB > while MPLS CP is implementing LSR MIB. In this scenario, when a > static LSP is set up, LSR MIB is configured in the CP with the > cross-connect/LSP. This cross connect information is passed to DP. > FTN MIB is then configured in DP with an FEC to this cross-connect/ > LSP mapping. Again, I think you are a bit confused about how the MIBs are used. The XCEntry is a "mib only thing" used to bind together the incoming and outgoing labels. Internally, this can actually be a variety of things, but suffice to say it has really nothing to do with lsp ping except that when validating an echo request, you are consulting the same control plane information under the covers. You are also validating that the data plane is consistent with this view of the world as well. > Now consider such a LSP is pinged. > When it reached the egress node, it is required that DP passes this > packet to CP for "Egress FEC validation" (section 4.4, point 6 of > RFC 4379). My doubt was that how can CP verify this ping packet > when it does not have any such "FEC" information in its LSR MIB for > this cross-connect/LSP. The target FEC information is included in the echo request message. It should be compared against that of the receiving LSR to determine among other things, if this packet was indeed destined for the LSR on which it is terminating. --Tom > > > thanks and regards, > Shilpa > > > On 10/3/07, Adrian Farrel < adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote: > Shilpa, > > Since no-one else answered, I'll bite. > > > I have a query regarding ping support for static LSPs. > > > > Firstly, is it supported? > > I don't believe that there is anything in the definition of LSP > Ping that > makes the use of a control plane to establish the LSP mandatory. > > > Secondly, if Control Plane is implementing LSR MIB (which does > not hold > > any > > information about FECs) to use for setting up of static LSPs, > then when an > > echo request packet (with FEC TLV) is received by Data Plane, > then how can > > one verify DP against CP? > > I don't think the control plane implements the LSR MIB. That would > be "the > LSR". But, anyway... > > The deeper question you are asking is: how is the FEC-To-NHLFE > table built > at an LSR through management plane activity? > > You are correct that the LSR MIB module (RFC3813) only defines how > to set up > the LFIB. > You should look at RFC3814 to see how the FEC-To-NHLFE table can be > built > using a MIB module. > > You may want to look at RFC4221 to see an overview of how all of > the MPLS > MIB modules fit together. > > Cheers, > Adrian > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@lists.ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --Apple-Mail-5-503499346 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Oct 3, 2007, at 7:06 AM, shilpa goel wrote:



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: shilpa = goel <shilpa07@gmail.com>
Date: = Oct 3, 2007 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: ping for static LSPs?
To: Adrian = Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>

Adrian,

=A0 What I meant was that suppose MPLS DP is = implementing FTN MIB while MPLS CP is implementing LSR MIB. In this = scenario, when a static LSP is set up, LSR MIB is configured in the CP = with the cross-connect/LSP. This cross connect information is passed to = DP. FTN MIB is then configured in DP with an FEC to this = cross-connect/LSP mapping.

Again, I = think you are a bit confused about how the MIBs are used. The XCEntry is = a "mib only thing"
used = to bind together the incoming and outgoing labels. Internally, this can = actually be a variety of
things, but suffice to say it has = really nothing to do with lsp ping except that when validating an = echo=A0
request, you are consulting the same control plane = information under the covers. =A0 You are also=A0
validating = that the data plane is consistent with this view of the world as = well.

Now consider such a LSP is = pinged.
When it reached the egress = node, it is required that DP passes this packet to CP for "Egress FEC = validation" (section 4.4, point 6 of RFC 4379). My doubt was that how = can CP verify this ping packet when it does not have any such "FEC" = information in its LSR MIB for this cross-connect/LSP. =

The = target FEC information is included in the echo request message. It = should be compared against
that of the receiving LSR = to determine among other things, if this packet was indeed = destined
for the LSR on which it is terminating.

--Tom





thanks and regards,
Shilpa


On = 10/3/07, Adrian Farrel < adrian@olddog.co.uk> = wrote:
Shilpa,

Since no-one else answered, I'll = bite.

>=A0=A0I have a query regarding ping support for static = LSPs.
>
> Firstly, is it supported?

I don't believe = that there is anything in the definition of LSP Ping that
makes the = use of a control plane to establish the LSP mandatory.

> = Secondly, if Control Plane is implementing LSR MIB (which does not = hold
> any
> information about FECs) to use for setting up = of static LSPs, then when an
> echo request packet (with FEC TLV) = is received by Data Plane, then how can
> one verify DP against = CP?

I don't think the control plane implements the LSR MIB. That = would be "the
LSR". But, anyway...

The deeper question you = are asking is: how is the FEC-To-NHLFE table built
at an LSR through = management plane activity?

You are correct that the LSR MIB = module (RFC3813) only defines how to set up
the LFIB.
You should = look at RFC3814 to see how the FEC-To-NHLFE table can be built
using = a MIB module.

You may want to look at RFC4221 to see an overview = of how all of the MPLS
MIB modules fit together.

Cheers, =
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= --Apple-Mail-5-503499346-- --===============1780591070== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --===============1780591070==-- From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Wed Oct 03 07:43:12 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2cZ-00074A-6m; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:42:31 -0400 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2cX-00071F-VZ for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:42:29 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2cX-00070i-LP for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:42:29 -0400 Received: from static-72-71-250-34.cncdnh.fios.verizon.net ([72.71.250.34] helo=lucidvision.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id2cW-0001LQ-AB for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:42:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lucidvision.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A551E69BDC; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:42:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucidvision.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09161-07; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:42:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.120] (static-72-71-250-36.cncdnh.fios.verizon.net [72.71.250.36]) by lucidvision.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB98B69BA5; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:42:40 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: References: <01dc01c805a8$213eaf60$0200a8c0@your029b8cecfe> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Message-Id: <81581820-DA0E-4EFD-BE06-E571EDA04720@lucidvision.com> From: Thomas D.Nadeau Subject: Re: [mpls] Re: ping for static LSPs? Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:42:11 -0400 To: shilpa goel X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at lucidvision.com X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 501044f827b673024f6a4cb1d46e67d2 Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org, mpls@UU.NET, mpls-ops@mplsrc.com X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0732581826==" Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org --===============0732581826== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-503650469 --Apple-Mail-6-503650469 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Oct 3, 2007, at 7:06 AM, shilpa goel wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: shilpa goel > Date: Oct 3, 2007 4:20 PM > Subject: Re: ping for static LSPs? > To: Adrian Farrel > > Adrian, > > What I meant was that suppose MPLS DP is implementing FTN MIB > while MPLS CP is implementing LSR MIB. In this scenario, when a > static LSP is set up, LSR MIB is configured in the CP with the > cross-connect/LSP. This cross connect information is passed to DP. > FTN MIB is then configured in DP with an FEC to this cross-connect/ > LSP mapping. Again, I think you are a bit confused about how the MIBs are used. The XCEntry is a "mib only thing" used to bind together the incoming and outgoing labels. Internally, this can actually be a variety of things, but suffice to say it has really nothing to do with lsp ping except that when validating an echo request, you are consulting the same control plane information under the covers. You are also validating that the data plane is consistent with this view of the world as well. > Now consider such a LSP is pinged. > When it reached the egress node, it is required that DP passes this > packet to CP for "Egress FEC validation" (section 4.4, point 6 of > RFC 4379). My doubt was that how can CP verify this ping packet > when it does not have any such "FEC" information in its LSR MIB for > this cross-connect/LSP. The target FEC information is included in the echo request message. It should be compared against that of the receiving LSR to determine among other things, if this packet was indeed destined for the LSR on which it is terminating. --Tom > > > thanks and regards, > Shilpa > > > On 10/3/07, Adrian Farrel < adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote: > Shilpa, > > Since no-one else answered, I'll bite. > > > I have a query regarding ping support for static LSPs. > > > > Firstly, is it supported? > > I don't believe that there is anything in the definition of LSP > Ping that > makes the use of a control plane to establish the LSP mandatory. > > > Secondly, if Control Plane is implementing LSR MIB (which does > not hold > > any > > information about FECs) to use for setting up of static LSPs, > then when an > > echo request packet (with FEC TLV) is received by Data Plane, > then how can > > one verify DP against CP? > > I don't think the control plane implements the LSR MIB. That would > be "the > LSR". But, anyway... > > The deeper question you are asking is: how is the FEC-To-NHLFE > table built > at an LSR through management plane activity? > > You are correct that the LSR MIB module (RFC3813) only defines how > to set up > the LFIB. > You should look at RFC3814 to see how the FEC-To-NHLFE table can be > built > using a MIB module. > > You may want to look at RFC4221 to see an overview of how all of > the MPLS > MIB modules fit together. > > Cheers, > Adrian > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@lists.ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --Apple-Mail-6-503650469 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Oct 3, 2007, at 7:06 AM, shilpa goel wrote:



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: shilpa = goel <shilpa07@gmail.com>
Date: = Oct 3, 2007 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: ping for static LSPs?
To: Adrian = Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>

Adrian,

=A0 What I meant was that suppose MPLS DP is = implementing FTN MIB while MPLS CP is implementing LSR MIB. In this = scenario, when a static LSP is set up, LSR MIB is configured in the CP = with the cross-connect/LSP. This cross connect information is passed to = DP. FTN MIB is then configured in DP with an FEC to this = cross-connect/LSP mapping.

Again, I = think you are a bit confused about how the MIBs are used. The XCEntry is = a "mib only thing"
used = to bind together the incoming and outgoing labels. Internally, this can = actually be a variety of
things, but suffice to say it has = really nothing to do with lsp ping except that when validating an = echo=A0
request, you are consulting the same control plane = information under the covers. =A0 You are also=A0
validating = that the data plane is consistent with this view of the world as = well.

Now consider such a LSP is = pinged.
When it reached the egress = node, it is required that DP passes this packet to CP for "Egress FEC = validation" (section 4.4, point 6 of RFC 4379). My doubt was that how = can CP verify this ping packet when it does not have any such "FEC" = information in its LSR MIB for this cross-connect/LSP. =

The = target FEC information is included in the echo request message. It = should be compared against
that of the receiving LSR = to determine among other things, if this packet was indeed = destined
for the LSR on which it is terminating.

--Tom





thanks and regards,
Shilpa


On = 10/3/07, Adrian Farrel < adrian@olddog.co.uk> = wrote:
Shilpa,

Since no-one else answered, I'll = bite.

>=A0=A0I have a query regarding ping support for static = LSPs.
>
> Firstly, is it supported?

I don't believe = that there is anything in the definition of LSP Ping that
makes the = use of a control plane to establish the LSP mandatory.

> = Secondly, if Control Plane is implementing LSR MIB (which does not = hold
> any
> information about FECs) to use for setting up = of static LSPs, then when an
> echo request packet (with FEC TLV) = is received by Data Plane, then how can
> one verify DP against = CP?

I don't think the control plane implements the LSR MIB. That = would be "the
LSR". But, anyway...

The deeper question you = are asking is: how is the FEC-To-NHLFE table built
at an LSR through = management plane activity?

You are correct that the LSR MIB = module (RFC3813) only defines how to set up
the LFIB.
You should = look at RFC3814 to see how the FEC-To-NHLFE table can be built
using = a MIB module.

You may want to look at RFC4221 to see an overview = of how all of the MPLS
MIB modules fit together.

Cheers, =
Adrian



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X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Adrian Farrel List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Hi, > What I meant was that suppose MPLS DP is implementing FTN MIB while MPLS > CP is implementing LSR MIB. In this scenario, when a static LSP is set up, > LSR MIB is configured in the CP with the cross-connect/LSP. This cross > connect information is passed to DP. FTN MIB is then configured in DP with > an FEC to this cross-connect/LSP mapping. Well, first, you must get off this thing about the CP or DP implementing a MIB. The LSR is one big, happy family. The MIB is present in the management plane. The information that is stored to correspond to the MIB objects may be stored in the CP or DP. When Tom says that he thinks the LSR MIB is implemented in the control plane, I tend to disagree. It is perfectly possible to have no control plane on an LSR and still have access to the LFIB information through the LSR MIB. (Of course, how LSRs are actually built is a different matter.) > Now consider such a LSP is pinged. When it reached the egress node, it is > required that DP passes this packet to CP for "Egress FEC validation" > (section 4.4, point 6 of RFC 4379). Why is the Ping packet passed to the CP? Because LSP Ping is a CP protocol. Thus, the module that processes the packet is a CP module. > My doubt was that how can CP verify this > ping packet when it does not have any such "FEC" > information in its LSR MIB for this cross-connect/LSP. If your CP implementation is unable to read the FTN information stored in the data plane then: - you can't process the ping - your implementation is probably badly broken! At the very least (although this would be an incredibly bad idea) the CP should be able to read the FTN MIB using SNMP. 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Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:55:55 -0400 Message-ID: <87AC5F88F03E6249AEA68D40BD3E00BE11D8A5EE@zcarhxm2.corp.nortel.com> In-Reply-To: <93248442-9778-4E4B-82C7-54F94078B14A@lucidvision.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mpls] Re: ping for static LSPs? thread-index: AcgFs4nXJ7l/d1QtQRKzC4nOIH6XOQAKp4eg References: <01dc01c805a8$213eaf60$0200a8c0@your029b8cecfe> <93248442-9778-4E4B-82C7-54F94078B14A@lucidvision.com> From: "David Allan" To: "Thomas D.Nadeau" , "Adrian Farrel" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: bdc523f9a54890b8a30dd6fd53d5d024 Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org, shilpa goel , mpls-ops@mplsrc.com X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Just a thought but when doing a traceroute, the FTN information would not be available in any form at transit nodes...? C'est vrai? Dave=20 -----Original Message----- From: Thomas D.Nadeau [mailto:tnadeau@lucidvision.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:42 AM To: Adrian Farrel Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org; shilpa goel; mpls-ops@mplsrc.com Subject: Re: [mpls] Re: ping for static LSPs? > Shilpa, > > Since no-one else answered, I'll bite. > >> I have a query regarding ping support for static LSPs. >> >> Firstly, is it supported? > > I don't believe that there is anything in the definition of LSP Ping=20 > that makes the use of a control plane to establish the LSP mandatory. This is correct. LSP ping needs a target FEC, but doesn't care how that FEC to NHLFE mapping was established whether though a signaling protocol or statically. >> Secondly, if Control Plane is implementing LSR MIB (which does not=20 >> hold any information about FECs) to use for setting up of static=20 >> LSPs, then when an echo request packet (with FEC TLV) is received by=20 >> Data Plane, then how can one verify DP against CP? > > I don't think the control plane implements the LSR MIB. That would be=20 > "the LSR". But, anyway... The LSR-MIB is implemented in the control plane, but I think the original poster is confused about its use if you are using it to validate echo reply packets; that is not its purpose. > The deeper question you are asking is: how is the FEC-To-NHLFE table=20 > built at an LSR through management plane activity? > > You are correct that the LSR MIB module (RFC3813) only defines how to=20 > set up the LFIB. > You should look at RFC3814 to see how the FEC-To-NHLFE table can be=20 > built using a MIB module. > > You may want to look at RFC4221 to see an overview of how all of the=20 > MPLS MIB modules fit together. Agreed, although I will also point out that it appears the original poster needs a clearer understanding of what the control and data planes do before implementing LSP ping too, which may or may not come from reading the original MPLS RFCs such as RFC3031. --Tom > > Cheers, > Adrian > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@lists.ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From Nishil_Shumaker@keepsmiling.de Wed Oct 03 13:28:14 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id816-0008Ej-Si for mpls-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:28:13 -0400 Received: from [72.54.54.189] (helo=[72.54.54.189]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Id816-000123-J4 for mpls-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:28:12 -0400 Received: from user-j3p0wlyyx4 ([172.137.181.30] helo=user-j3p0wlyyx4) by [72.54.54.189] ( sendmail 8.13.3/8.13.1) with esmtpa id 1HSeGd-000ATF-qJ for mpls-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:28:32 -0500 Message-ID: <000201c805e2$bfc44d40$bd363648@userj3p0wlyyx4> From: "Nishil Shumaker" To: Subject: mistread Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:28:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C805B8.D6EE4540" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Score: 3.5 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: 8abaac9e10c826e8252866cbe6766464 ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C805B8.D6EE4540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://siteaval.com/ Whats up mpls-archive Did you ever ask yourself is my penis big enough???? 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Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 22:47:50 +0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <87AC5F88F03E6249AEA68D40BD3E00BE11D8A5EE@zcarhxm2.corp.nortel.com> References: <01dc01c805a8$213eaf60$0200a8c0@your029b8cecfe> <93248442-9778-4E4B-82C7-54F94078B14A@lucidvision.com> <87AC5F88F03E6249AEA68D40BD3E00BE11D8A5EE@zcarhxm2.corp.nortel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2007 14:47:50.0887 (UTC) FILETIME=[899F4770:01C80695] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 769a46790fb42fbb0b0cc700c82f7081 Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org, shilpa goel , mpls-ops@mplsrc.com X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1111234045==" Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org --===============1111234045== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1410a754-2c2d-4d62-82a9-c37f14fdfafb_" --_1410a754-2c2d-4d62-82a9-c37f14fdfafb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit lsp ping or lsp traceroute does not care about the information of CP. After the lsp created, static lsp or else , the CP download the forwarding information to DP, so a question occur, as the same fec, which one we should use ,the static lsp or signal lsp? > Subject: RE: [mpls] Re: ping for static LSPs?> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:55:55 -0400> From: dallan@nortel.com> To: tnadeau@lucidvision.com; adrian@olddog.co.uk> CC: mpls@lists.ietf.org; shilpa07@gmail.com; mpls-ops@mplsrc.com> > Just a thought but when doing a traceroute, the FTN information would> not be available in any form at transit nodes...?> > C'est vrai?> > Dave > > -----Original Message-----> From: Thomas D.Nadeau [mailto:tnadeau@lucidvision.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:42 AM> To: Adrian Farrel> Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org; shilpa goel; mpls-ops@mplsrc.com> Subject: Re: [mpls] Re: ping for static LSPs?> > > > > Shilpa,> >> > Since no-one else answered, I'll bite.> >> >> I have a query regarding ping support for static LSPs.> >>> >> Firstly, is it supported?> >> > I don't believe that there is anything in the definition of LSP Ping > > that makes the use of a control plane to establish the LSP mandatory.> > This is correct. LSP ping needs a target FEC, but doesn't care> how that FEC to NHLFE mapping was established whether though a signaling> protocol or statically.> > >> Secondly, if Control Plane is implementing LSR MIB (which does not > >> hold any information about FECs) to use for setting up of static > >> LSPs, then when an echo request packet (with FEC TLV) is received by > >> Data Plane, then how can one verify DP against CP?> >> > I don't think the control plane implements the LSR MIB. That would be > > "the LSR". But, anyway...> > The LSR-MIB is implemented in the control plane, but I think the> original poster is confused about its use if you are using it to> validate echo reply packets; that is not its purpose.> > > The deeper question you are asking is: how is the FEC-To-NHLFE table > > built at an LSR through management plane activity?> >> > You are correct that the LSR MIB module (RFC3813) only defines how to > > set up the LFIB.> > You should look at RFC3814 to see how the FEC-To-NHLFE table can be > > built using a MIB module.> >> > You may want to look at RFC4221 to see an overview of how all of the > > MPLS MIB modules fit together.> > Agreed, although I will also point out that it appears the> original poster needs a clearer understanding of what the control and> data planes do before implementing LSP ping too, which may or may not> come from reading the original MPLS RFCs such as RFC3031.> > --Tom> > > >> > Cheers,> > Adrian> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > mpls mailing list> > mpls@lists.ietf.org> > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls> >> > > > _______________________________________________> mpls mailing list> mpls@lists.ietf.org> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls> > > _______________________________________________> mpls mailing list> mpls@lists.ietf.org> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Custom Domain£¬ÄúµÄÃâ·Ñµç×ÓÓʾ֡£ https://domains.live.com/default.aspx --_1410a754-2c2d-4d62-82a9-c37f14fdfafb_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit  
lsp ping or lsp traceroute does not care about the information of CP.
 
After the lsp created, static lsp or else , the CP download the forwarding
information to DP, so a question occur, as the same fec, which one we should
use ,the static lsp or signal lsp?
 
 

> Subject: RE: [mpls] Re: ping for static LSPs?
> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:55:55 -0400
> From: dallan@nortel.com
> To: tnadeau@lucidvision.com; adrian@olddog.co.uk
> CC: mpls@lists.ietf.org; shilpa07@gmail.com; mpls-ops@mplsrc.com
>
> Just a thought but when doing a traceroute, the FTN information would
> not be available in any form at transit nodes...?
>
> C'est vrai?
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas D.Nadeau [mailto:tnadeau@lucidvision.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:42 AM
> To: Adrian Farrel
> Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org; shilpa goel; mpls-ops@mplsrc.com
> Subject: Re: [mpls] Re: ping for static LSPs?
>
>
>
> > Shilpa,
> >
> > Since no-one else answered, I'll bite.
> >
> >> I have a query regarding ping support for static LSPs.
> >>
> >> Firstly, is it supported?
> >
> > I don't believe that there is anything in the definition of LSP Ping
> > that makes the use of a control plane to establish the LSP mandatory.
>
> This is correct. LSP ping needs a target FEC, but doesn't care
> how that FEC to NHLFE mapping was established whether though a signaling
> protocol or statically.
>
> >> Secondly, if Control Plane is implementing LSR MIB (which does not
> >> hold any information about FECs) to use for setting up of static
> >> LSPs, then when an echo request packet (with FEC TLV) is received by
> >> Data Plane, then how can one verify DP against CP?
> >
> > I don't think the control plane implements the LSR MIB. That would be
> > "the LSR". But, anyway...
>
> The LSR-MIB is implemented in the control plane, but I think the
> original poster is confused about its use if you are using it to
> validate echo reply packets; that is not its purpose.
>
> > The deeper question you are asking is: how is the FEC-To-NHLFE table
> > built at an LSR through management plane activity?
> >
> > You are correct that the LSR MIB module (RFC3813) only defines how to
> > set up the LFIB.
> > You should look at RFC3814 to see how the FEC-To-NHLFE table can be
> > built using a MIB module.
> >
> > You may want to look at RFC4221 to see an overview of how all of the
> > MPLS MIB modules fit together.
>
> Agreed, although I will also point out that it appears the
> original poster needs a clearer understanding of what the control and
> data planes do before implementing LSP ping too, which may or may not
> come from reading the original MPLS RFCs such as RFC3031.
>
> --Tom
>
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Adrian
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > mpls mailing list
> > mpls@lists.ietf.org
> > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls
> >
>
>
>
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[STANDARDS TRACK] This document is a product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Draft Standard Protocol. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the Internet community,and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements.Please refer to the current edition of the Internet Official Protocol Standards (STD 1) for the standardization state and status of this protocol. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. This announcement is sent to the IETF list and the RFC-DIST list. Requests to be added to or deleted from the IETF distribution list should be sent to IETF-REQUEST@IETF.ORG. Requests to be added to or deleted from the RFC-DIST distribution list should be sent to RFC-DIST-REQUEST@RFC-EDITOR.ORG. Details on obtaining RFCs via FTP or EMAIL may be obtained by sending an EMAIL message to rfc-info@RFC-EDITOR.ORG with the message body help: ways_to_get_rfcs. 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The RFC Editor Team USC/Information Sciences Institute ... _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Fri Oct 12 15:48:14 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IgQOY-0006Yw-Pt; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:42:02 -0400 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IgQOW-0006Rr-1x for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:42:00 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IgQOV-0006Rf-NE for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:41:59 -0400 Received: from bosco.isi.edu ([128.9.168.207]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IgQOV-0004o1-9A for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:41:59 -0400 Received: by bosco.isi.edu (Postfix, from userid 70) id D2E23E6F4A; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:37:05 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20071012193705.D2E23E6F4A@bosco.isi.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:37:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Score: -15.0 (---------------) X-Scan-Signature: d0bdc596f8dd1c226c458f0b4df27a88 Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [mpls] RFC 5037 on Experience with the Label Distribution Protocol (LDP) X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5037 Title: Experience with the Label Distribution Protocol (LDP) Author: L. Andersson, Ed., I. Minei, Ed., B. Thomas, Ed. Status: Informational Date: October 2007 Mailbox: loa@pi.se, ina@juniper.net, rhthomas@cisco.com Pages: 7 Characters: 13886 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-experience-00.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5037.txt The purpose of this memo is to document how some of the requirements specified in RFC 1264 for advancing protocols developed by working groups within the IETF Routing Area to Draft Standard have been satisfied by LDP (Label Distribution Protocol). Specifically, this report documents operational experience with LDP, requirement 5 of section 5.0 in RFC 1264. This memo provides information for the Internet community. This document is a product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF. INFORMATIONAL: This memo provides information for the Internet community. 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The RFC Editor Team USC/Information Sciences Institute ... _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Fri Oct 12 15:48:19 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IgQOh-0006xv-1T; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:42:11 -0400 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IgQOf-0006vi-2k for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:42:09 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IgQOe-0006t1-NK for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:42:08 -0400 Received: from bosco.isi.edu ([128.9.168.207]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IgQOe-0004oC-8M for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:42:08 -0400 Received: by bosco.isi.edu (Postfix, from userid 70) id 12983E6F4C; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:37:15 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20071012193715.12983E6F4C@bosco.isi.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:37:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Score: -15.0 (---------------) X-Scan-Signature: d8ae4fd88fcaf47c1a71c804d04f413d Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [mpls] RFC 5038 on The Label Distribution Protocol (LDP) Implementation Survey Results X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5038 Title: The Label Distribution Protocol (LDP) Implementation Survey Results Author: B. Thomas, L. Andersson Status: Informational Date: October 2007 Mailbox: rhthomas@cisco.com, loa@pi.se Pages: 23 Characters: 46890 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-survey2002-00.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5038.txt Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS), described in RFC 3031, is a method for forwarding packets that uses short, fixed-length values carried by packets, called labels, to determine packet next hops. A fundamental concept in MPLS is that two Label Switching Routers (LSRs) must agree on the meaning of the labels used to forward traffic between and through them. This common understanding is achieved by using a set of procedures, called a Label Distribution Protocol (as described in RFC 3036) , by which one LSR informs another of label bindings it has made. 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This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF. Title : An Analysis of Scaling Issues in MPLS-TE Backbone Networks Author(s) : S. Yasukawa, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-01.txt Pages : 37 Date : 2007-10-13 Traffic engineered Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS-TE) is deployed in providers' backbone networks. As providers plan to grow these networks, they need to discover whether existing protocols and implementations can support the network sizes that they are planning. This document presents an analysis of some of the scaling concerns for MPLS-TE backbone networks, and examines the value of two techniques for improving scaling. The intention is to motivate the development of appropriate deployment techniques and protocol extensions to enable the application of MPLS-TE in large networks. This document considers only scalability for point-to-point MPLS-TE. Point-to-multipoint MPLS-TE is for future study. 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Cheers, Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 1:40 PM Subject: [mpls] I-D Action:draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-01.txt >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >directories. > This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working > Group of the IETF. > > > Title : An Analysis of Scaling Issues in MPLS-TE Backbone > Networks > Author(s) : S. Yasukawa, et al. > Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-01.txt > Pages : 37 > Date : 2007-10-13 > > Traffic engineered Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS-TE) is > deployed in providers' backbone networks. As providers plan to grow > these networks, they need to discover whether existing protocols and > implementations can support the network sizes that they are planning. > > This document presents an analysis of some of the scaling concerns > for MPLS-TE backbone networks, and examines the value of two > techniques for improving scaling. 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From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Sun Oct 14 05:21:48 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IgzTY-00008m-5s; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:09:32 -0400 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IgzTW-00008g-Mx for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:09:30 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IgzTW-00008W-DQ for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:09:30 -0400 Received: from webmail.chats.mrv.com ([66.43.110.3] helo=chmailsrv.int.mrv.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IgzTN-0006k7-7a for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:09:27 -0400 Received: from zeus.yok.int.mrv.com ([172.21.9.11]) by chmailsrv.int.mrv.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 14 Oct 2007 02:09:39 -0700 Received: from 194.90.138.5 ([194.90.138.5]) by zeus.yok.int.mrv.com ([172.21.9.11]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 09:09:06 +0000 Received: from miri.nbase.co.il by web.mrv.co.il; 14 Oct 2007 11:09:47 +0200 From: Miri wolloch To: mpls@lists.ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: MRV Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 11:09:47 +0200 Message-Id: <1192352987.3176.24.camel@miri.nbase.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.3 (2.10.3-4.fc7) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2007 09:09:39.0447 (UTC) FILETIME=[F31CC070:01C80E41] X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Scan-Signature: 7655788c23eb79e336f5f8ba8bce7906 Subject: [mpls] Question about ldp label Mapping Message X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mwolloch@mrv.com List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Hi all, Consider the following scenario: Due to some local event LSR X removes a local label for some FEC and sends a Label_withdraw_message to LSR Y. As a result, according to rfc 3036, LSR Y sends back a label Release message. Before LSR X recieves this label Release message a new event occurs that demands to add a new local label to that FEC and to send a label mapping message to Y. LSR X is choosing the label just removed to be added again. Now, when the label Release message, coming from LSR Y, is received, LSR X releases the label just added. Eventually we are left with no label for that FEC. Have anyone ever encountered this kind of scenario? IS this a true RFC bug ? Thanks for any comments how to overcome this problem. Miri _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Sun Oct 14 13:24:58 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ih72c-0002uJ-9d; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:14:14 -0400 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ih72b-0002tp-D7 for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:14:13 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ih72a-0002rj-Ir for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:14:12 -0400 Received: from exprod7og105.obsmtp.com ([64.18.2.163]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ih72W-0008Eb-9N for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:14:09 -0400 Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) by exprod7ob105.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:13:41 PDT Received: from emailsmtp54.jnpr.net ([172.24.18.127]) by gamma.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:13:42 -0700 Received: from garnet.juniper.net ([172.17.28.17]) by emailsmtp54.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:02:16 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:02:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Ina Minei To: Miri wolloch Subject: Re: [mpls] Question about ldp label Mapping Message In-Reply-To: <1192352987.3176.24.camel@miri.nbase.co.il> Message-ID: <20071014095506.K75418@garnet.juniper.net> References: <1192352987.3176.24.camel@miri.nbase.co.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2007 17:02:16.0713 (UTC) FILETIME=[F95C2790:01C80E83] X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: e1e48a527f609d1be2bc8d8a70eb76cb Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Miri, Until the "release" is received, the label is not eligible for reuse, as it is still in use by the neighboring router. This is done at the implementation level, not at the protocol level. Ina On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, Miri wolloch wrote: > Hi all, > > Consider the following scenario: > > Due to some local event LSR X removes a local label for some FEC and > sends a Label_withdraw_message to LSR Y. > As a result, according to rfc 3036, LSR Y sends back a label Release > message. > Before LSR X recieves this label Release message a new event occurs that > demands to add a new local label to that FEC and to send a label mapping > message to Y. LSR X is choosing the label just removed to be added > again. > Now, when the label Release message, coming from LSR Y, is received, LSR > X releases the label just added. > > Eventually we are left with no label for that FEC. > > Have anyone ever encountered this kind of scenario? IS this a true RFC > bug ? > > Thanks for any comments how to overcome this problem. > > Miri > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@lists.ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From satanica666@thebrick.com Sun Oct 14 14:56:02 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ih8d8-0006i8-0L for mpls-archive@lists.ietf.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:56:02 -0400 Received: from [207.134.64.194] (helo=irwjztw) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ih8d3-00027j-RM for mpls-archive@lists.ietf.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:55:58 -0400 Received: (qmail 5007 invoked from network); Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:53:45 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO ddugk) (180.211.151.126) by irwjztw with SMTP; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:53:45 -0400 Message-ID: <000f01c80e93$8c138510$7e97d3b4@ddugk> From: To: Subject: have you seen this yet? Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:53:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1250"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Scan-Signature: d17f825e43c9aed4fd65b7edddddec89 Big Move is Drawing Attention At PPYH. Physical Property Holdings Inc. PPYH $0.25 Big changes are looking like big returns as new Real Estate focus takes hold at PPYH. They are already sweeping Hong Kong and grabbing high profile properties according to recent news. Monday will be a big day for this one, get your broker on it as the trading warms up. From unemsrws@bottin.com Sun Oct 14 17:01:42 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IhAak-0003zl-4m; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:01:42 -0400 Received: from p5b278b3f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([91.39.139.63]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IhAaX-0004oh-0u; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:01:40 -0400 Received: from [91.39.139.63] by in2.smtp.messagingengine.com; , 14 Oct 2007 21:59:25 +0100 From: "Tracey Callahan" To: Subject: Moscow mystery as 34 bodies dug up Date: , 14 Oct 2007 21:59:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C80EAD.7C001390" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Aca6Q5JAVQX117X34I3A87MXNBAGPW== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Message-ID: <01c80ead$7c001390$3f8b275b@unemsrws> X-Spam-Score: 2.4 (++) X-Scan-Signature: 6fd498969019220b4f904725504c12a0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C80EAD.7C001390 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000F_01C80EAD.7C001390" ------=_NextPart_001_000F_01C80EAD.7C001390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Dow Jones industrial average added nearly 192 points to end at an all-time high of 14,087.55 points on Monday amid hopes that banks have put the worst of the recent 'credit crunch' behind them and expectations that the Federal Reserve will continue to cut interest rates. "It becomes a psychological phenomenon. Investors know that there are inherent risks in the market, but at the same time, they're rationalizing any bad news." In Asia on Tuesday, Tokyo's Nikkei 225 gained 200 points to close up 1.19 percent at 17,047, its highest finish since August 9. Technology companies Sony (4.2 percent) and Canon (2.6 percent) and automakers Nissan (3 percent) were among the biggest gainers. "The mother has cooperated with us," De Meo said. "We believe that the mother was not aware of anything that went on with this young girl. It was very sad for her to find this out." "She's what you'd expect a little girl in elementary school to be like," he said. "You would never know something like that happened. Ever." "The Nikkei appears to be in a gradual uptrend now," Nobuyuki Nagamorim, a technical analyst at Unimat Yamamaru Securities, told The Associated Press. The tech-dominated Nasdaq also gained 1.5 percent for its highest close since February 2001 while the S&P 500 gained 1.3 percent. Gotbaum was the mother of three young children and the daughter-in-law of longtime New York City Public Advocate Betsy Gotbaum. Carol Ann Gotbaum may have accidentally strangled herself while trying to get out of her handcuffs, Phoenix Police Department spokesman Sgt. Andy Hill said Saturday. Betsy Gotbaum called Carol Ann Gotbaum "a wonderful, wonderful person" and a great mother. She said the family was dealing with the situation "the best way we can." Someone close to Stiles told investigators Stiles is a "survivalist type" and always carries a weapon, Nye County District Attorney Bob Beckett said. Allen said nobody realized the child had been abused. A spokeswoman for the Maricopa County medical examiner said an autopsy would be conducted Monday morning. Authorities have identified Chester A. Stiles, 37, as the suspect in the tape. A resident of Pahrump, Nevada, he remains at-large, De Meo said. Pahrump is about 60 miles west of Las Vegas. "According to investigators, it appeared as though Ms. Gotbaum had possibly tried to manipulate the handcuffs from behind her to the front, got tangled up in the process, and they ended up around her neck area," he said. "Sometime during the time she went into custody, she went into medical distress," he said. Allen said he never witnessed Stiles physically assault anyone. (CNN) -- Darren Tuck, the man who gave police a tape depicting the rape of a 3-year-old girl, turned himself in Sunday to Nye County, Nevada, authorities. CNN and other news organizations did so until the child was found, and De Meo asked media to stop showing the picture. Stiles was a distant friend of the girl's family, De Meo said. ------=_NextPart_001_000F_01C80EAD.7C001390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The Dow Jones industrial average added nearly 192 points to end at an= all-time high of 14,087.55 points on Monday amid hopes that banks have p= ut the worst of the recent 'credit crunch' behind them and expectations t= hat the Federal Reserve will continue to cut interest rates.


"It becomes a psychological phenomenon. Investors know that there are= inherent risks in the market, but at the same time, they're rationalizin= g any bad news."


In Asia on Tuesday, Tokyo's Nikkei 225 gained 200 points to close up = 1.19 percent at 17,047, its highest finish since August 9. Technology com= panies Sony (4.2 percent) and Canon (2.6 percent) and automakers Nissan (= 3 percent) were among the biggest gainers.


"The mother has cooperated with us," De Meo said. "We believe that th= e mother was not aware of anything that went on with this young girl. It = was very sad for her to find this out."


"She's what you'd expect a little girl in elementary school to be lik= e," he said. "You would never know something like that happened. Ever."

"The Nikkei appears to be in a gradual uptrend now," Nobuyuki Nagamor= im, a technical analyst at Unimat Yamamaru Securities, told The Associate= d Press.


The tech-dominated Nasdaq also gained 1.5 percent for its highest clo= se since February 2001 while the S&P 500 gained 1.3 percent.


Gotbaum was the mother of three young children and the daughter-in-la= w of longtime New York City Public Advocate Betsy Gotbaum.


Carol Ann Gotbaum may have accidentally strangled herself while tryin= g to get out of her handcuffs, Phoenix Police Department spokesman Sgt. A= ndy Hill said Saturday.


Betsy Gotbaum called Carol Ann Gotbaum "a wonderful, wonderful person= " and a great mother. She said the family was dealing with the situation = "the best way we can."


Someone close to Stiles told investigators Stiles is a "survivalist t= ype" and always carries a weapon, Nye County District Attorney Bob Becket= t said.


Allen said nobody realized the child had been abused.


A spokeswoman for the Maricopa County medical examiner said an autops= y would be conducted Monday morning.


Authorities have identified Chester A. Stiles, 37, as the suspect in = the tape. A resident of Pahrump, Nevada, he remains at-large, De Meo sai= d. Pahrump is about 60 miles west of Las Vegas.


"According to investigators, it appeared as though Ms. Gotbaum had po= ssibly tried to manipulate the handcuffs from behind her to the front, go= t tangled up in the process, and they ended up around her neck area," he = said.


"Sometime during the time she went into custody, she went into medica= l distress," he said.


Allen said he never witnessed Stiles physically assault anyone.

(CNN) -- Darren Tuck, the man who gave police a tape depicting th= e rape of a 3-year-old girl, turned himself in Sunday to Nye County, Neva= da, authorities.


CNN and other news organizations did so until the child was found, an= d De Meo asked media to stop showing the picture.


Stiles was a distant friend of the girl's family, De Meo said.

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    Only one in four trains will be running on Thursday, including suburba= n services linking Paris to its three international airports, she said.

    The man and his wife were attending a court hearing in Reggio Emilia a= s part of separation proceedings when he pulled out a gun and pointed it = at his wife and her brother, then started shooting randomly, police said.=


    Before visiting Iran, Putin held extensive talks on Iran's nuclear act= ivities with some Western leaders including French President Nicolas Sark= ozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel.


    Police were investigating how the man managed to take a weapon into th= e courtroom in Reggio Emilia, a city about 80 kilometers (50 miles) north= west of Bologna.


    The wife was taken to a hospital, where she was declared clinically de= ad, Italian media reported. Her brother died at the scene.


    A police officer and the woman's lawyer also were injured, but not ser= iously, police said.


    LONDON, England (CNN) -- Widespread strikes are expected to cripple Fr= ance's transport network just as rugby fans make their way to Paris for t= his weekend's World Cup final.


    At talks Friday with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and U.S.= Defense Secretary Robert Gates, he ridiculed U.S. plans for a missile de= fense system in eastern Europe, supposedly to stop an Iranian attack.

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    The five permanent U.N. Security Council members, plus Germany, have b= een working together to try to find a way to get Iran to abandon its uran= ium enrichment program. The U.S. and some allies allege that the program = is cover for a weapons program. Iran says it is intended purely for peace= ful energy production.


    The strike is expected to cripple France's national train network.

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    Putin met with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and attended a su= mmit of Caspian Sea nations Tuesday, the first visit by a Kremlin leader = to Iran since Josef Stalin attended a 1943 summit with Winston Churchill = and Franklin D. Roosevelt.


    "He was shooting like crazy at everybody," officer Antonio Turi said.<= /P>

    The ANSA news agency identified the man as Klirim Fejzo, his wife as V= yosa Demcolli and her brother as Arjan Demcolli, all Albanians.


    About 80,000 rugby fans are expected to attend Saturday's World Cup fi= nal between England and South Africa.


    "We are certainly concerned about the impact for fans. So far we've be= en assured the disruptions should be manageable but it remains to be seen= ," Jessica Chambers, a spokeswoman for the England Rugby Supporters Club.=


    With Paris hotels booked full many fans are staying 30 kilometers (20 = miles) outside the city in hotels around Disneyland's Paris resort.

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