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Filename: draft-ietf-mpls-multicast-encaps Revision: 07 Title: MPLS Multicast Encapsulations Creation_date: 2007-11-01 WG ID: mpls Number_of_pages: 11 Abstract: RFC 3032 established two data link layer codepoints for MPLS: one to indicate that the data link layer frame is carrying an MPLS unicast packet, and the other to indicate that the data link layer frame is carrying an MPLS multicast packet. This specification updates RFC 3032 by redefining the meaning of these two codepoints. The former "multicast codepoint" is now to be used only on multiaccess media, and it is to mean "the top label of the following label stack is an upstream-assigned label". The former "unicast codepoint" is to be used in all other cases. Whether the data link layer payload is a unicast MPLS packet or a multicast MPLS packet is now to be determined by looking up the top label, rather than by the codepoint. 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    ------=_NextPart_000_761ED_01C822A0.44D54B40-- From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Fri Nov 09 04:03:21 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqPlP-0005D3-EL; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 04:02:55 -0500 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqPlN-0005C5-1S for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 04:02:53 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqPlH-00053y-H7 for mpls@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 04:02:47 -0500 Received: from smtp.testbed.se ([80.86.78.228] helo=fw.testbed.se) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqPlD-0006sT-0e for mpls@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 04:02:47 -0500 Received: from MailerDaemon by fw.testbed.se with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqPlB-0004yo-Mw for mpls@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:02:41 +0100 Received: from h241n2fls33o874.telia.com ([213.66.47.241]:62135 helo=[192.168.0.100]) by fw.testbed.se with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqPl5-0004xy-N4; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:02:35 +0100 Message-ID: <47342221.4070201@pi.se> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:02:25 +0100 From: Loa Andersson Organization: Acreo AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Iesg (E-mail)" , mpls@ietf.org, pwe3 , ccamp References: <472E26BC.40207@pi.se> In-Reply-To: <472E26BC.40207@pi.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B0204.473420E6.004C,ss=1,fgs=0 X-cff-SpamScore: 0(/) X-cff-SpamReport: ----- ----- Message is unknown to the spam scanner. 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See below. > > > >> > TE LSPs signalled with zero bandwidth that are configured and >> > provisioned through a management system are not included in the count >> > that is reported. > > Two questions WRT the above: > - Why are such LSPs excluded from reporting? > - How is the above accomplished for signalled LSPs? > JP> This should actually read " Unconstrained TE LSPs that are configured and > provisioned through a management system are not included in the count > that is reported." - Thanks. > section 3.1: >> > The Number of 0-bandwidth TE LSP(s) sub-TLV is OPTIONAL and MUST >> > appear at most once within [...] > and section 3.2: >> > The Number of 0-bandwidth TE LSP(s) sub-TLV is OPTIONAL and MUST >> > appear at most once within [...] > > While your intent is pretty clear, the phrasing is a bit awkward and > subject to misinterpretation (i.e., what does it mean for an > "OPTIONAL" element to "MUST" appear ). How about rephrasing along > the lines of (change marked in asterisks): > > "The Number of 0-bandwidth TE LSP(s) sub-TLV is OPTIONAL and MUST > ***NOT appear more than*** once within [...]" > > JP> Makes a lot of sense. Changed. > > >> >4. Elements of procedure >> > >> > An implementation MAY decide to implement a dual-thresholds mechanism >> > based on the number of unconstrained TE LSPs to govern the >> > origination of updated OSPF LSA or ISIS LSP. [...] > > Should either define or point a reference that defines "a > dual-thresholds mechanism". > > JP> Yes, we've got two options here. (1) Mimic the RFC3209 approach and just > do not say anything. Isn't it so obvious that implementers will know this > anyway or (2) start to explain possible approach to avoid too frequent > flooding. I favor (1). Agree ? >> >5. IANA Considerations >> > >> > IANA will assign a new code point for the newly defined IS-IS Number >> > of 0-bandwidth TE LSP(s) sub-TLV carried within the TLV 22 (suggested >> > value =18). >> > >> > IANA will assign a new code point for the newly defined OSPF Number >> > of 0-bandwidth TE LSP(s) sub-TLV carried within the Link TLV (Type 2) >> > of the Traffic Engineering LSA (suggested value=18). > > Both suggested values are already assigned. > JP> Yes thanks, we were waiting for the last minute to update the proposed > values (next available slot is 23). > Thanks. > JP. > That's it! > Lou > _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Fri Nov 09 08:34:27 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqU06-0003Lk-J8; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:34:22 -0500 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqU05-0003Jy-7V for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:34:21 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqU04-0003Jq-T5 for mpls@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:34:20 -0500 Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com ([64.102.122.149]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqU04-0002K1-Gg for mpls@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:34:20 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,394,1188792000"; d="scan'208";a="136461828" Received: from rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com ([64.102.121.159]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2007 08:34:20 -0500 Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com (rtp-core-2.cisco.com [64.102.124.13]) by rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lA9DYK8g021237; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 08:34:20 -0500 Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lA9DY3dw021457; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:34:19 GMT Received: from xmb-rtp-213.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.112]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 9 Nov 2007 08:34:15 -0500 Received: from 10.86.104.180 ([10.86.104.180]) by xmb-rtp-213.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.112]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:34:15 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.3.3.061214 Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:34:13 -0500 Subject: Your comments [mpls] working group last call for draft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps From: JP Vasseur To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Your comments [mpls] working group last call for draft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps Thread-Index: Acgi1Tc6demiyI7IEdyHogANk8WjQA== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2007 13:34:15.0407 (UTC) FILETIME=[38A97FF0:01C822D5] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-8.0.0.1181-5.000.1023-15534.002 X-TM-AS-Result: No--10.834900-8.000000-31 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=2067; t=1194615260; x=1195479260; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=jvasseur@cisco.com; z=From:=20JP=20Vasseur=20 |Subject:=20Your=20comments=20[mpls]=20working=20group=20last=20call=20fo r=0A=20draft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps |Sender:=20 |To:=20; bh=AaUg57P4Zoueh4xBzNNICKV2yeg6kS0WhdVU6We1S2g=; b=wCA4Lx49kO9770tg3HLDbnl4SewBO+Tn2A0D/6BHtDwuHuMKhcDDeaui+cXYcZbCywo/0ez6 cdVtD1dqk0YNqrGu5gKSpSyi5u851KEAT3CTJisbEn6UXvgKMvKgyKOU; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-2; header.From=jvasseur@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/rtpdkim2001 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3e15cc4fdc61d7bce84032741d11c8e5 Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org > Hi Atila, > > Thanks for your comments - See in line, > Hi all, > > Some comments and questions on the draft. > > Best regards, > Attila > > > Section 1, > -remove the full stops after the expansion of acronyms > JP> ? > Section 2, > -paragraph 1: remove the explanation "(TE LSP signaled with zero > bandwidth)" > JP> Reworded as "TE LSP signaled with 0 bandwidth" > -paragraph 2: the text is unclear on what is referred by "such metrics" > in the last sentence. To clarify remove the parenthesis from "(other > metric...)" and change "other metric..." => "on metrics, e.g., > percentage of reserved bandwidth or the number of hops." Maybe the last > sentence should simply state something like: "Unfortunately, in the > presence of unconstrained TE LSPs constraints on reserved bandwidth and > number of LSPs may be misleading and may lead to poorly load balanced > traffic." > JP> Clarification added "such metrics (e.g. path cost, number of hops, ...) > are usually ineffective" > > -paragraph 5 ("Note that...") and 7 ("Furthermore, the...") should be > moved after paragraph 3 > JP> Right, done. > > -paragraph 6: ("TE LSPs signaled..."): why do you exclude provisioned > LSPs? I can understand that there are cases where the information on > management plane provisioned LSPs is not needed/available, however I > think the proposed extensions should be more general and allow > collecting information on all the unconstrained LSPs in the TED. > Wouldn't it be possible to have two fields to include both the number of > unconstrained signaled and provisioned LSPs in the new TLV? > > JP> Yes, it should actually read "Unconstrained TE LSPs that are configured and provisioned through a management system are not included in the count that is reported". Thanks. > Section 3, > -maybe a figure would be appropriate showing the new TLV format. > > JP>> always happy to add a figure but the TLV format cannot be more simple > than that. > Section 4, > -change ISIS to IS-IS > JP> Done, thanks. > JP. _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Fri Nov 09 08:50:01 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqUF9-0004TQ-FX; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:49:55 -0500 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IqUF7-0004PK-3G for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:49:53 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqUF6-0004OP-P3 for mpls@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:49:52 -0500 Received: from [216.104.42.195] (helo=esc91.midphase.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqUF3-0006LB-Fa for mpls@ietf.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:49:52 -0500 Received: from esc91.midphase.com ([216.104.33.66] helo=LC1.labn.net) by esc91.midphase.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IqUEs-0004DP-52; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:49:38 -0500 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:49:35 -0500 To: JP Vasseur From: Lou Berger Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call fordraft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc91.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7d33c50f3756db14428398e2bdedd581 Message-Id: Cc: mpls@ietf.org X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org JP, Thanks for the response. See below for a remaining question. At 08:29 AM 11/9/2007, JP Vasseur wrote: > >> > TE LSPs signalled with zero bandwidth that are configured and > >> > provisioned through a management system are not included in the count > >> > that is reported. > > > > Two questions WRT the above: > > - Why are such LSPs excluded from reporting? > > - How is the above accomplished for signalled LSPs? > > JP> This should actually read " Unconstrained TE LSPs that are > configured and > > provisioned through a management system are not included in the count > > that is reported." - Thanks. - Why are such LSPs excluded from reporting? 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text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 769a46790fb42fbb0b0cc700c82f7081 Subject: [mpls] Fw: I-D Action:draft-farrel-mpls-lsp-ping-tlvs-01.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Adrian Farrel List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Hi MPLS working group, This short I-D is proposing to impose some sub-ranges on the type values of LSP Ping TLVs to make them future proof. Comments welcome. Thanks, Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 12:40 PM Subject: I-D Action:draft-farrel-mpls-lsp-ping-tlvs-01.txt >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >directories. > > Title : Future-Proof TLV Codepoint Space for LSP Ping > Author(s) : A. Farrel, G. Swallow > Filename : draft-farrel-mpls-lsp-ping-tlvs-01.txt > Pages : 10 > Date : 2007-11-17 > > Techniques for detecting Multi-Protocol Label Switched (MPLS) data > plane failures are described in RFC 4379 and include the definition > of a control protocol for testing and verifying Label Switched Path > (LSP) connectivity that is known as LSP Ping. The protocol consists > of a set of messages each of which contains data encoded as TLVs. > > The LSP Ping protocol is being extended for several related uses. > Each extension gives rise to the definition of new TLVs to be carried > on the existing protocol messages. > > The LSP Ping specification makes it mandatory that all TLVs are > understood by each participating Label Switching Router (LSR) that > receives an LSP Ping message. This makes future extensibility hard > without upgrading all LSRs in the network. > This document defines ranges in the TLV codepoint space so that TLVs > may be associated with different processing rules within an LSR if > the TLV is unknown. 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Any feed-back from the list? If not, we'll submit the new revision with that change. Thanks. Cheers. JP. > From: Lou Berger > Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:17:30 -0500 > To: JP Vasseur > Cc: > Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call > fordraft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps > > JP, > See below. > > At 01:25 PM 11/16/2007, JP Vasseur wrote: > >> Hi Lou, >> >> On 11/9/07 8:49 AM, "Lou Berger" wrote: >> >>> JP, >>> Thanks for the response. See below for a remaining question. >>> >>> At 08:29 AM 11/9/2007, JP Vasseur wrote: >>> >>>>>>> TE LSPs signalled with zero bandwidth that are configured and >>>>>>> provisioned through a management system are not included >> in the count >>>>>>> that is reported. >>>>> >>>>> Two questions WRT the above: >>>>> - Why are such LSPs excluded from reporting? >>>>> - How is the above accomplished for signalled LSPs? >>>>> JP> This should actually read " Unconstrained TE LSPs that are >>>> configured and >>>>> provisioned through a management system are not included in the count >>>>> that is reported." - Thanks. >>> >>> - Why are such LSPs excluded from reporting? >> >> Well if they are configured and provisioned through a management system (non >> signaled using RSVP), it is out of the (G)MPLS scope ... > > This is inconsistent with management provisioned LSPs with resources > (non-zero bandwidth). Why is this inconsistency desirable? > > How about adding the word MAY, i.e., change the text to read > "...provisioned through a management system MAY not be included in..." > > Lou > >> The management >> system should be used to also report the number of such LSPs. Note that this >> is probably not a common situation though. > > > >> Thanks. >> >> Cheers. >> >> JP. >> >>> >>> Lou >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpls mailing list >>> mpls@lists.ietf.org >>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@lists.ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Tue Nov 20 09:35:37 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuUBe-0007oV-9o; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:34:50 -0500 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IuUBd-0007oP-Ht for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:34:49 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuUBc-0007mZ-DB for mpls@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:34:48 -0500 Received: from [216.104.42.195] (helo=esc91.midphase.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuUBb-0004PZ-VO for mpls@ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:34:48 -0500 Received: from esc91.midphase.com ([216.104.33.66] helo=LC1.labn.net) by esc91.midphase.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IuUBT-0000jX-Hn; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:34:39 -0500 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:34:36 -0500 To: JP Vasseur From: Lou Berger Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call fordraft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc91.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cf3becbbd6d1a45acbe2ffd4ab88bdc2 Message-Id: Cc: mpls@ietf.org X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org JP, I think this was my sole remaining issue. Lou At 06:16 AM 11/20/2007, JP Vasseur wrote: >Hi Lou, > >You proposed change is fine with me. Any feed-back from the list? >If not, we'll submit the new revision with that change. > >Thanks. > >Cheers. > >JP. > > > > From: Lou Berger > > Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:17:30 -0500 > > To: JP Vasseur > > Cc: > > Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call > > fordraft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps > > > > JP, > > See below. > > > > At 01:25 PM 11/16/2007, JP Vasseur wrote: > > > >> Hi Lou, > >> > >> On 11/9/07 8:49 AM, "Lou Berger" wrote: > >> > >>> JP, > >>> Thanks for the response. See below for a remaining question. > >>> > >>> At 08:29 AM 11/9/2007, JP Vasseur wrote: > >>> > >>>>>>> TE LSPs signalled with zero bandwidth that are configured and > >>>>>>> provisioned through a management system are not included > >> in the count > >>>>>>> that is reported. > >>>>> > >>>>> Two questions WRT the above: > >>>>> - Why are such LSPs excluded from reporting? > >>>>> - How is the above accomplished for signalled LSPs? > >>>>> JP> This should actually read " Unconstrained TE LSPs that are > >>>> configured and > >>>>> provisioned through a management system are not included > in the count > >>>>> that is reported." - Thanks. > >>> > >>> - Why are such LSPs excluded from reporting? > >> > >> Well if they are configured and provisioned through a management > system (non > >> signaled using RSVP), it is out of the (G)MPLS scope ... > > > > This is inconsistent with management provisioned LSPs with resources > > (non-zero bandwidth). Why is this inconsistency desirable? > > > > How about adding the word MAY, i.e., change the text to read > > "...provisioned through a management system MAY not be included in..." > > > > Lou > > > >> The management > >> system should be used to also report the number of such LSPs. > Note that this > >> is probably not a common situation though. > > > > > > > >> Thanks. > >> > >> Cheers. > >> > >> JP. > >> > >>> > >>> Lou > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> mpls mailing list > >>> mpls@lists.ietf.org > >>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mpls mailing list > > mpls@lists.ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Tue Nov 20 13:41:19 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuY1b-00024t-M4; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:40:43 -0500 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IuY1Z-00024Z-1r for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:40:41 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuY1Y-00024R-Mb for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:40:40 -0500 Received: from ns4.neustar.com ([156.154.24.139]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuY1Y-0005Kz-Aa for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:40:40 -0500 Received: from stiedprstage1.ietf.org (stiedprstage1.va.neustar.com [10.31.47.10]) by ns4.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50772AC5F; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:15:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ietf by stiedprstage1.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IuXcj-00082B-MH; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:15:01 -0500 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:15:01 -0500 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b7b9551d71acde901886cc48bfc088a6 Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-typed-wildcard-02.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF. Title : LDP Typed Wildcard FEC Author(s) : B. Thomas, I. Minei Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-typed-wildcard-02.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2007-11-20 The LDP specification [RFC5036] for the Wildcard FEC element has several deficiencies. This document corrects those deficiencies. In addition, it specifies the Typed Wildcard FEC for the Prefix FEC Element Type defined in RFC5036. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-typed-wildcard-02.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF. Title : Security Framework for MPLS and GMPLS Networks Author(s) : L. Fang Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-mpls-and-gmpls-security-framework-01.txt Pages : 0 Date : 2007-11-20 This document provides a security framework for Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) and Generalized Multiprotocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Networks (MPLS and GMPLS are described in [RFC3031] and [RFC3945]). This document addresses the security aspects that are relevant in the context of MPLS and GMPLS. It describes the security threats, the related defensive techniques, and the mechanisms for detection and reporting. This document emphasizes RSVP-TE and LDP security considerations, as well as Inter-AS and Inter-provider security considerations for building and maintaining MPLS and GMPLS networks across different domains or different Service Providers. 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This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF. Title : LDP extension for Inter-Area LSP Author(s) : B. Decraene, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-interarea-01.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2007-11-20 To facilitate the establishment of Label Switched Paths (LSP) that would span multiple IGP areas in a given Autonomous System (AS), this document proposes a new optional label mapping procedure for the Label Distribution Protocol (LDP). This procedure allows the use of a label if the Forwarding Equivalence Class (FEC) Element matches an entry in the routing table (RIB). Matching is defined by an IP longest match search and does not mandate an exact match. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-interarea-01.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. 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The URL of the draft: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/mpls/draft-cao-mpls-te-p2mp-head-protection-01.txt . Welcome to comment :) Cheers! Cao Wei 2007-11-21 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Filename: draft-cao-mpls-te-p2mp-head-protection Revision: 01 Title: Head Node Protection Extensions to RSVP-TE for LSP Tunnels Creation_date: 2007-11-17 WG ID: Independent Submission Number_of_pages: 17 Abstract: Protection methods for RSVP-TE P2MP LSP have been described in [TE- FRR]([RFC4090]) and [P2MP-TE-Bypass], but there are no solutions to protect an RSVP-TE P2MP head node. This document discusses the scenario for RSVP-TE P2MP LSP head node failure protection and describes the protection procedures. RSVP-TE extensions for such protection are also described. To protect the head node, a backup head node is appointed which forwards traffic to downstream LSRs of the LSP when the protected head node fails. The backup head node is not on the path of protected LSP. Similar to [TE-FRR] there are two methods that can apply: one- to-one backup and facility backup. Only one-to-one backup is described in detail here, facility backup will be discussed in a future version of this draft. -------------- _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Wed Nov 21 13:18:06 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iuu8K-00082P-Rl; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:17:08 -0500 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iuu8J-00082H-Ah for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:17:07 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iuu8J-000828-0w for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:17:07 -0500 Received: from exprod7og109.obsmtp.com ([64.18.2.171]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iuu8F-0006SR-41 for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:17:07 -0500 Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) by exprod7ob109.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:17:00 PST Received: from emailcorp1.jnpr.net ([66.129.254.11]) by gamma.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:16:11 -0800 Received: from emailcorp3.jnpr.net ([66.129.254.13]) by emailcorp1.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:15:17 -0800 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:15:16 -0800 Message-ID: <7FA0C743C38E5340BFC2873488FA1E8E8B220D@emailcorp3.jnpr.net> In-Reply-To: <200711211645558640490@huawei.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Updated draft available: draft-nitinb-lsp-ping-over-mpls-tunnel-01.txt Thread-Index: AcgsHBnXg1qjeO50Q+OExGK0g7wkzAATPxtQ References: <200711211645558640490@huawei.com> From: "Nitin Bahadur" To: "mpls" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2007 18:15:17.0169 (UTC) FILETIME=[78033210:01C82C6A] X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: 8abaac9e10c826e8252866cbe6766464 Subject: [mpls] Updated draft available: draft-nitinb-lsp-ping-over-mpls-tunnel-01.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org WG, A new version of "Mechanism for performing LSP-Ping over MPLS tunnels" has been submitted. http://tools.ietf.org/wg/mpls/draft-nitinb-lsp-ping-over-mpls-tunnel-01. txt Abstract: This document describes methods for performing lsp-ping traceroute over mpls tunnels. The techniques outlined in RFC 4379 are insufficient to perform correct traceroute validation and path discovery for a LSP that goes over other mpls tunnels. This document describes new procedures that can be used in conjunction with the standard procedures described in RFC 4379 to trace such LSPs. Changes since ver-00. * Outlined detailed procedures for performing hierarchical lsp trace * Extended procedures to perform tracing of stitched LSPs * Introduced a Downstream Detailed Mapping TLV which deprecates Downstream Mapping TLV of RFC4379. * Updated security considerations Please take some time to go through the document. We shall be presenting it at Vancouver. 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Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Fri Nov 23 08:05:56 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvYDZ-0001V1-1o; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:05:13 -0500 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IvYDY-0001Uq-CK for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:05:12 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvYDY-0001Ui-2m for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:05:12 -0500 Received: from kuber.nabble.com ([216.139.236.158]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvYDU-0007bG-TQ for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:05:12 -0500 Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IvYDQ-0001HC-AQ for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:05:04 -0800 Message-ID: <13907713.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:05:04 -0800 (PST) From: zillah To: mpls@lists.ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] IP VPN MPLS design requirements In-Reply-To: <13906680.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: forwardtruth@yahoo.com References: <13906680.post@talk.nabble.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Scan-Signature: 8b30eb7682a596edff707698f4a80f7d X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org I have not designed this before , I am looking to make a simple proposal for a manufacture company that is looking to implement IP VPN over MPLS for his/her customers (30 of them). Each customer site has got around 10 users. Applications are to be used database and http to access their accounts at the manufacture company (I can not find more about that which obviously effects bandwidth required) Customer right now accessing manufacture company site through ADSL connection (Internet) 1- What are the recommended requirements (router, leased line, etc,,,,) for each customer to have ? 2- If we want to implement IP VPN MPLS , do we need to replace that ADSL connection with a leased line ? or still we can used ADSL connection ? or we have to have another specific connection for IP VPN beside ADSL, (i.e. one connection is dedicated for IP VPN and the ADSL connection for accessing the Internet ) 3- If I am looking to use a Cisco router as Customer Edge router (CE router, because client right now does not have a Cisco router ) what type of router do I need ? what module should a router have ? what type of ISO ? or does not matter ? 4- Do I need to have any other devices beside a Cisco router ? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/IP-VPN-MPLS-design-requirements-tf4859665.html#a13907713 Sent from the IETF - mpls mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Fri Nov 23 08:30:46 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvYbU-0007R4-FY; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:29:56 -0500 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IvYbS-000733-8f for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:29:54 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvYbR-0006rj-8d for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:29:53 -0500 Received: from mail125.messagelabs.com ([85.158.136.35]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvYbM-0008Lh-0D for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:29:53 -0500 X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: jordan.britnell@bell.ca X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-125.messagelabs.com!1195824531!30090909!21 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.12.14.2; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [206.47.0.177] Received: (qmail 19102 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2007 13:29:41 -0000 Received: from dm1c8e.bell.ca (HELO TLS.Exchange.Bell.ca) (206.47.0.177) by server-8.tower-125.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Nov 2007 13:29:41 -0000 Received: from hub03-wyn.bell.corp.bce.ca (142.182.199.49) by dm1c8e.exchange3.bell.ca (198.235.102.108) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.0.685.24; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:34:31 -0500 Received: from toroondc550.bell.corp.bce.ca (142.182.84.162) by hub03-wyn.bell.corp.bce.ca (142.182.199.49) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.0.744.0; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:29:17 -0500 Received: from TOROONDC915.bell.corp.bce.ca ([142.182.89.18]) by toroondc550.bell.corp.bce.ca with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:29:17 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [mpls] IP VPN MPLS design requirements Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:29:17 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <13907713.post@talk.nabble.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mpls] IP VPN MPLS design requirements Thread-index: Acgt0Y2opxz+vKbgSXO+jtajPOtIoAAAludQ References: <13906680.post@talk.nabble.com> <13907713.post@talk.nabble.com> From: To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2007 13:29:17.0732 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9046640:01C82DD4] X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-Scan-Signature: fcb459c204557d9509ce9c1b55d771f1 Cc: X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0660989657==" Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org --===============0660989657== Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C82DD4.D8B779B1" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82DD4.D8B779B1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll take a crack at these questions. Comments inline... ________________________________________ Jordan Britnell IP Technology Research BCE/Bell Canada (416) 215-3729 jordan.britnell@bell.ca -----Original Message----- From: zillah [mailto:forwardtruth@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: November 23, 2007 8:05 AM To: mpls@lists.ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] IP VPN MPLS design requirements I have not designed this before , I am looking to make a simple proposal for a manufacture company that is looking to implement IP VPN over MPLS for his/her customers (30 of them). Each customer site has got around 10 users. Applications are to be used database and http to access their accounts at the manufacture company (I can not find more about that which obviously effects bandwidth required) Customer right now accessing manufacture company site through ADSL connection (Internet) 1- What are the recommended requirements (router, leased line, etc,,,,) for each customer to have ? [Britnell, Jordan (5000008)] A Cisco 877 DSL router (some models have Wireless which is an added bonus) is a very affordable CE device and has proven to be quite reliable while supporting lots of features 2- If we want to implement IP VPN MPLS , do we need to replace that ADSL connection with a leased line ? or still we can used ADSL connection ? or we have to have another specific connection for IP VPN beside ADSL, (i.e. one connection is dedicated for IP VPN and the ADSL connection for accessing the Internet ) [Britnell, Jordan (5000008)] You can keep the DSL line but run IPsec to the company PE device. You can then set up an Internet VRF on the PE to handle Internet requests.=20 3- If I am looking to use a Cisco router as Customer Edge router (CE router, because client right now does not have a Cisco router ) what type of router do I need ? what module should a router have ? what type of ISO ? or does not matter ? [Britnell, Jordan (5000008)] See below: Cisco 877W (MPC8272) processor (revision 0x200) with 118784K/12288K bytes of memory. Processor board ID FHK103051CT MPC8272 CPU Rev: Part Number 0xC, Mask Number 0x10 4 FastEthernet interfaces 1 ATM interface 1 802.11 Radio 128K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory. 24576K bytes of processor board System flash (Intel Strataflash) 4- Do I need to have any other devices beside a Cisco router ? [Britnell, Jordan (5000008)] Not on the customer prem but you'll need the MPLS core of course! LOL.=20 --=20 View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/IP-VPN-MPLS-design-requirements-tf4859665.html#a13 907713 Sent from the IETF - mpls mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82DD4.D8B779B1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [mpls] IP VPN MPLS design requirements

    I'll take a crack at these questions. Comments = inline...

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    -----Original Message-----

    From: zillah [mailto:forwardtruth@yahoo.com]=

    Sent: November 23, 2007 8:05 AM

    To: mpls@lists.ietf.org

    Subject: Re: [mpls] IP VPN MPLS design = requirements


    I = have not designed this before , I am looking to make

    a = simple proposal for a manufacture company that is

    looking to implement IP VPN over MPLS for his/her

    customers (30 of them). Each customer site has = got

    around 10 users.

    Applications are to be used database and http to

    access their accounts at the manufacture company = (I

    can not find more about that which obviously = effects

    bandwidth required)

    Customer right now accessing manufacture company = site

    through ADSL connection (Internet)

    1- = What are the recommended requirements (router,

    leased line, etc,,,,) for each customer to have  = ?

    [Britnell, Jordan (5000008)] A Cisco 877 DSL router (some models = have Wireless which is an added bonus) is a very affordable CE device = and has proven to be quite reliable while supporting lots of = features


    2- = If we want to implement IP VPN MPLS , do we need to

    replace that ADSL connection with a leased line ? = or

    still we can used ADSL connection ? or we have to = have

    another specific connection for IP VPN beside = ADSL,

    (i.e. one connection is dedicated for IP VPN and = the

    ADSL connection for accessing the Internet )

    [Britnell, Jordan (5000008)] You can keep the DSL line but run = IPsec to the company PE device. You can then set up an Internet VRF on = the PE to handle Internet requests.


    3- = If  I am looking to use a Cisco router as = Customer

    Edge router (CE router, because client right now = does

    not have a Cisco router ) what type of router do = I

    need ? what module should a router have ? what type = of

    ISO ? or does not matter ?

    [Britnell, Jordan (5000008)] See below:

    Cisco 877W (MPC8272) processor (revision 0x200) with = 118784K/12288K bytes of memory.

    Processor board ID FHK103051CT

    MPC8272 CPU Rev: Part Number 0xC, Mask Number = 0x10

    4 = FastEthernet interfaces

    1 = ATM interface

    1 = 802.11 Radio

    128K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.

    24576K bytes of processor board System flash (Intel = Strataflash)

    4- = Do I need to have any other devices beside a Cisco

    router ?

    [Britnell, Jordan (5000008)] Not on the customer = prem but you'll need the MPLS core of course! LOL.

    -- =

    View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/IP-VPN-MPLS-design-requirements-tf48= 59665.html#a13907713

    Sent from the IETF - mpls mailing list archive at = Nabble.com.



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You can then set up an Internet VRF on the PE to handle Internet requests<< By: "company PE device" phrase , you meant to say : "provider PE device", which I do not have control on it. If this is the case that means I can use current ADSL connection-not ADSL router- (of course I can increase speed depends on bandwidth needed),without needing to purchase additional T1/E1 leased line to implement IP VPN MPLS. Please correct my understanding if I am wrong >>You can then set up an Internet VRF on the PE to handle Internet requests<< That means if cutomer willing to access the internet beside the internal connection, I should ask ISP to enable that at Provider Edge router ? Warm regards -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/IP-VPN-MPLS-design-requirements-tf4859665.html#a13919435 Sent from the IETF - mpls mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Fri Nov 23 17:11:34 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivgio-0007DM-JS; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:10:02 -0500 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivgim-0007BS-7n for mpls-confirm+ok@megatroFrom mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Fri Nov 23 17:11:34 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivgji-0007gg-6N; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:10:58 -0500 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivgjg-0007gN-Fb for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:10:56 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivgjg-0007gF-66 for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:10:56 -0500 Received: from kuber.nabble.com ([216.139.236.158]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivgjd-00013e-Sz for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:10:56 -0500 Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ivgjd-0000XF-M9 for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:10:53 -0800 Message-ID: <13919435.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:10:53 -0800 (PST) From: zillah To: mpls@lists.ietf.org Subject: RE: [mpls] IP VPN MPLS design requirements In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: forwardtruth@yahoo.com References: <13906680.post@talk.nabble.com> <13907713.post@talk.nabble.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Scan-Signature: e5ba305d0e64821bf3d8bc5d3bb07228 X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Thanks Britnell for your reply >> A Cisco 877 DSL router (some models have Wireless which is an added >> bonus) is a very affordable CE device and has proven to be quite reliable >> while supporting lots of features<< Since customers they are using (Netgear, D-Link, Linksys,,,,etc) for their ADSL connection, Are you saying that these ADSL routers preferably to be replaced by Cisco 877 DSL router to implement IP VPN MPLS ? and a customer should run IPSec VPN tunnel to PE router. >>You can keep the DSL line but run IPsec to the company PE device. You can then set up an Internet VRF on the PE to handle Internet requests<< By: "company PE device" phrase , you meant to say : "provider PE device", which I do not have control on it. If this is the case that means I can use current ADSL connection-not ADSL router- (of course I can increase speed depends on bandwidth needed),without needing to purchase additional T1/E1 leased line to implement IP VPN MPLS. Please correct my understanding if I am wrong >>You can then set up an Internet VRF on the PE to handle Internet requests<< That means if cutomer willing to access the internet beside the internal connection, I should ask ISP to enable that at Provider Edge router ? Warm regards -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/IP-VPN-MPLS-design-requirements-tf4859665.html#a13919435 Sent from the IETF - mpls mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Fri Nov 23 17:11:34 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivgio-0007DM-JS; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:10:02 -0500 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivgim-0007BS-7n for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:10:00 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivgil-0007BI-Ua for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:09:59 -0500 Received: from kuber.nabble.com ([216.139.236.158]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivgij-00011R-H8 for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:09:59 -0500 Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ivgij-0000Wd-62 for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:09:57 -0800 Message-ID: <13919435.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:09:57 -0800 (PST) From: zillah To: mpls@lists.ietf.org Subject: RE: [mpls] IP VPN MPLS design requirements In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: forwardtruth@yahoo.com References: <13906680.post@talk.nabble.com> <13907713.post@talk.nabble.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Scan-Signature: e5ba305d0e64821bf3d8bc5d3bb07228 X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Thanks Britnell for your reply >> A Cisco 877 DSL router (some models have Wireless which is an added >> bonus) is a very affordable CE device and has proven to be quite reliable >> while supporting lots of features<< Since customers they are using (Netgear, D-Link, Linksys,,,,etc) for their ADSL connection, Are you saying that these ADSL routers preferably to be replaced by Cisco 877 DSL router to implement IP VPN MPLS ? and a customer should run IPSec VPN tunnel to PE router. >>You can keep the DSL line but run IPsec to the company PE device. You can then set up an Internet VRF on the PE to handle Internet requests<< By: company PE device, you meant to say : provider PE device, which is I do not have control on it. If this is the case that means I can use current ADSL connection-not ADSL router- (of course I can increase speed depends on bandwidth needed),without needing to purchase additional T1/E1 leased line to implement IP VPN MPLS. Please correct my understanding if I am wrong >>You can then set up an Internet VRF on the PE to handle Internet requests<< That means if cutomer willing to access the internet beside the internal connection, I should ask ISP to enable that at Provider Edge router ? Warm regards -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/IP-VPN-MPLS-design-requirements-tf4859665.html#a13919435 Sent from the IETF - mpls mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls n.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:10:00 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivgil-0007BI-Ua for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:09:59 -0500 Received: from kuber.nabble.com ([216.139.236.158]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivgij-00011R-H8 for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:09:59 -0500 Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ivgij-0000Wd-62 for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:09:57 -0800 Message-ID: <13919435.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:09:57 -0800 (PST) From: zillah To: mpls@lists.ietf.org Subject: RE: [mpls] IP VPN MPLS design requirements In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: forwardtruth@yahoo.com References: <13906680.post@talk.nabble.com> <13907713.post@talk.nabble.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Scan-Signature: e5ba305d0e64821bf3d8bc5d3bb07228 X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Thanks Britnell for your reply >> A Cisco 877 DSL router (some models have Wireless which is an added >> bonus) is a very affordable CE device and has proven to be quite reliable >> while supporting lots of features<< Since customers they are using (Netgear, D-Link, Linksys,,,,etc) for their ADSL connection, Are you saying that these ADSL routers preferably to be replaced by Cisco 877 DSL router to implement IP VPN MPLS ? and a customer should run IPSec VPN tunnel to PE router. >>You can keep the DSL line but run IPsec to the company PE device. You can then set up an Internet VRF on the PE to handle Internet requests<< By: company PE device, you meant to say : provider PE device, which is I do not have control on it. If this is the case that means I can use current ADSL connection-not ADSL router- (of course I can increase speed depends on bandwidth needed),without needing to purchase additional T1/E1 leased line to implement IP VPN MPLS. Please correct my understanding if I am wrong >>You can then set up an Internet VRF on the PE to handle Internet requests<< That means if cutomer willing to access the internet beside the internal connection, I should ask ISP to enable that at Provider Edge router ? Warm regards -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/IP-VPN-MPLS-design-requirements-tf4859665.html#a13919435 Sent from the IETF - mpls mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Fri Nov 23 19:13:43 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ivide-0007p4-21; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:12:50 -0500 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ividb-0007on-UC for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:12:47 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ividb-0007nk-0v for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:12:47 -0500 Received: from zcars04f.nortel.com ([47.129.242.57]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvidY-0005Kl-GF for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:12:47 -0500 Received: from zcarhxm2.corp.nortel.com (zcarhxm2.corp.nortel.com [47.129.230.99]) by zcars04f.nortel.com (Switch-2.2.6/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id lAO0Cbp05656; Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:12:37 GMT X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [mpls] IP VPN MPLS design requirements Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:12:36 -0500 Message-ID: <87AC5F88F03E6249AEA68D40BD3E00BE11D8ABB8@zcarhxm2.corp.nortel.com> In-Reply-To: <13919435.post@talk.nabble.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mpls] IP VPN MPLS design requirements Thread-Index: AcguHemmqBd64f5bQ1674dZvPmd44AAEG9iw References: <13906680.post@talk.nabble.com> <13907713.post@talk.nabble.com> <13919435.post@talk.nabble.com> From: "David Allan" To: "zillah" , X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-Scan-Signature: 8b431ad66d60be2d47c7bfeb879db82c Cc: X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org This smacks of a scripted pitch. 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This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF. Title : Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Traffic Engineering Management Information Base for Fast Reroute Author(s) : R. Cetin, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-fastreroute-mib-08.txt Pages : 39 Date : 2007-11-19 This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base for use with network management protocols in the Internet community. In particular, it describes managed objects used to support two fast reroute (FRR) methods for Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) based traffic engineering (TE). The two methods are one-to-one backup method and facility backup method. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-fastreroute-mib-08.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. 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This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF. Title : Requirements for Point-To-Multipoint Extensions to the Label Distribution Protocol Author(s) : J. Le Roux Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-mp-ldp-reqs-03.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2007-11-19 This document lists a set of functional requirements for Label Distribution Protocol (LDP) extensions for setting up point-to- multipoint (P2MP) Label Switched Paths (LSP), in order to deliver point-to-multipoint applications over a Multi Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) infrastructure. It is intended that solutions that specify LDP procedures for setting up P2MP LSP satisfy these requirements. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-mp-ldp-reqs-03.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. 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This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF. Title : Security Framework for MPLS and GMPLS Networks Author(s) : L. Fang Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-mpls-and-gmpls-security-framework-01.txt Pages : 0 Date : 2007-11-20 This document provides a security framework for Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) and Generalized Multiprotocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Networks (MPLS and GMPLS are described in [RFC3031] and [RFC3945]). This document addresses the security aspects that are relevant in the context of MPLS and GMPLS. It describes the security threats, the related defensive techniques, and the mechanisms for detection and reporting. This document emphasizes RSVP-TE and LDP security considerations, as well as Inter-AS and Inter-provider security considerations for building and maintaining MPLS and GMPLS networks across different domains or different Service Providers. 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X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1562670719==" Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org --===============1562670719== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_34077_33428208.1196058075803" ------=_Part_34077_33428208.1196058075803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello, We have a scenario as below; (LSR) ( LER) [ A ]---------[ B ] ======[ C ] (LER) | | [ D ] ( LER ) Following are the 2 signalled LSP's, LSP1: A---B---C : with X bandwidth. LSP2: D---B---C : with Y bandwidth. These two LSP's are sharing the same link. ( Between LSR [B] and LER [c] ), Now, 1: We want to gaurantee LSP1 with X bandwidth, and LSP2 with Y bandwidth. At LSR [B] how this bandwidths are gauranteed? Is there any scheduler applied for this, if so how? 2: If LSP1 is not utilizing its X bandwidth, then we want LSP2 to get that bw utilized. Can we have a scheduler like WRR to reserve bandwidth for LSP's? And, In RFC 3209 " RSVP-TE: Extensions to RSVP for LSP Tunnels", ( in 2.4Reservation styles) explanation of "Fixed Filter (FF) Style" will it actually serve of our need about guaranteing the reserved bw for each LSP? Waiting for the valuable responses. Thanks in advance, Padmavathi. ------=_Part_34077_33428208.1196058075803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello,

    We have a scenario as below; 

                                    (LSR)                
    ( LER) [ A ]---------[ B ] ======[ C ] (LER)
                                    |
                                |
                              [ D ]
                                    ( LER )

    Following are the 2 signalled LSP's,

    LSP1: A---B---C : with X bandwidth.
    LSP2: D---B---C : with Y bandwidth.

    These two LSP's are sharing the same link. ( Between LSR [B] and LER [c] ), Now,

    1:  We want to gaurantee LSP1 with X bandwidth, and LSP2  with Y bandwidth.
        At LSR [B] how this bandwidths are gauranteed?  Is there any scheduler applied for this,
        if so how?

    2:  If LSP1 is not utilizing its X bandwidth, then we want LSP2 to get that bw utilized.

     Can we have a scheduler like WRR to reserve bandwidth for LSP's?

    And, In RFC 3209 " RSVP-TE: Extensions to RSVP for LSP Tunnels", ( in 2.4 Reservation styles) explanation of  "Fixed Filter (FF) Style" will it actually serve of our need about guaranteing the reserved bw for each LSP?

    Waiting for the valuable responses.

    Thanks in advance,
    Padmavathi.
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    Padmavathi,
     
     FF Style will physically=20 carve out the bw needs for each = ;LSP. (SE style cannot be used since i= t will only reserve the Max of LSP1 and=20 LSP2).
     WRR at=20 LSP level will make sure LSP1 and LSP2 will utilize the BW in work=20 conserving fashion.
     
    Regards,
    Phaniraj
    From: Padmavathi Chilukoori=20 [mailto:paddams.2003@gmail.com]
    Sent: Monday, November 26, = 2007=20 11:51 AM
    To: mpls@lists.ietf.org
    Subject: [mpls] = WRR=20 between LSP's.

    Hello,

    We have a scenario as below;  =

     =20                    =  =20          (LSR)    =20             =
    ( LER) [ A ]---------    [ B ] =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D[ C ] (LER)
            =                   =    =20   |
              = ;        =20         =20 = |
               &n= bsp;           &nb= sp; =20 [ D ]
              &nbs= p;            = ;        =20 ( LER )

    Following are the 2 signalled LSP's,

    LSP1: = A---B---C :=20 with X bandwidth.
    LSP2: D---B---C : with Y bandwidth.

    These = two=20 LSP's are sharing the same link. ( Between LSR [B] and LER [c] ), Now, =

    1:  We want to gaurantee LSP1 with X bandwidth, and = LSP2 =20 with Y bandwidth.
        At LSR [B] how this bandwidths = are=20 gauranteed?  Is there any scheduler applied for=20 this,
        if so how?

    2:  If LSP1 is not = utilizing its X bandwidth, then we want LSP2 to get that bw=20 utilized.

    Can we have a scheduler = like WRR to=20 reserve bandwidth for LSP's?

    And, In RFC 3209 " RSVP-TE: = Extensions to=20 RSVP for LSP Tunnels", ( in 2.4 Reservation styles) explanation = of =20 "Fixed Filter (FF) Style" will it actually serve of our need about = guaranteing=20 the reserved bw for each LSP?

    Waiting for the valuable=20 responses.

    Thanks in=20 advance,
    Padmavathi.
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    Thanks for your responses.
    I will rephrase my query as i believe it is not strictly an implementation issue alone.
    While reading the RFC 3209, i get an impression that the LSP bandwidth reservation means, some sort of queuing discipline instance taking place on the data-plane. though this is not stated explicitly in the RFC, i do expect this.
    When a router-vendor says it support RFC 3209, what should dean as RFC compliant? Is it enough if the implementation simply maintains " an account" of bandwidth reserved without actually reaching it in the data-plane using a scheduler like WRR for the LSP's?

    Waiting for your valuable responses,

    Thanks & Regards,
    Padmavathi.


    ------=_Part_5062_2264757.1196233052918-- --===============0598428363== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --===============0598428363==-- From mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org Wed Nov 28 06:40:47 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IxLGq-0006pK-76; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:40:00 -0500 Received: from mpls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IxLGo-0006p8-K4 for mpls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:39:58 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IxLGo-0006ow-AO for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:39:58 -0500 Received: from ihemail4.lucent.com ([135.245.0.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IxLGn-0000q7-Fo for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:39:58 -0500 Received: from ilexp03.ndc.lucent.com (h135-3-39-50.lucent.com [135.3.39.50]) by ihemail4.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id lASBdARH029801; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 05:39:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from inexp02.in.lucent.com ([135.254.223.66]) by ilexp03.ndc.lucent.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 28 Nov 2007 05:39:32 -0600 Received: from INEXC1U02.in.lucent.com ([135.254.223.26]) by inexp02.in.lucent.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:09:27 +0530 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: [mpls] WRR between LSP's. Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:09:24 +0530 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <69c2746a0711272257y639eb5f1o400ac0f49eea5150@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mpls] WRR between LSP's. Thread-Index: Acgxi/pM3FPtsF6MRhGFPx0HRnbiDwAIos4w References: <69c2746a0711272257y639eb5f1o400ac0f49eea5150@mail.gmail.com> From: "Vattem, Phaniraj \(Phaniraj\)" To: "Padmavathi Chilukoori" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Nov 2007 11:39:27.0489 (UTC) FILETIME=[54FDDF10:01C831B3] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.39 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 6ffdee8af20de249c24731d8414917d3 Cc: X-BeenThere: mpls@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0128861516==" Errors-To: mpls-bounces@lists.ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0128861516== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C831B3.54944410" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C831B3.54944410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Padmavathi, =20 RFC 3209 covers only the signalling mechanisms involved in setting up Traffic engineerd LSPs in MPLS. Data Path should ensure the BW allocated for an LSP to guarantee Qos treatment. The implementation is vendor specific.=20 =20 Regards, Phaniraj =20 ________________________________ From: Padmavathi Chilukoori [mailto:paddams.2003@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:28 PM To: mpls@lists.ietf.org Cc: filippo.cugini@cnit.it; Vattem, Phaniraj (Phaniraj) Subject: Re: [mpls] WRR between LSP's. =09 =09 Hi, Thanks for your responses. I will rephrase my query as i believe it is not strictly an implementation issue alone. While reading the RFC 3209, i get an impression that the LSP bandwidth reservation means, some sort of queuing discipline instance taking place on the data-plane. though this is not stated explicitly in the RFC, i do expect this.=20 When a router-vendor says it support RFC 3209, what should dean as RFC compliant? Is it enough if the implementation simply maintains " an account" of bandwidth reserved without actually reaching it in the data-plane using a scheduler like WRR for the LSP's?=20 =09 Waiting for your valuable responses, =09 Thanks & Regards, Padmavathi. =09 =09 =09 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C831B3.54944410 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Padmavathi,
     
    RFC 3209 covers only the signalling = mechanisms=20 involved in setting up Traffic engineerd LSPs in = MPLS.
    Data Path should ensure the=20 BW allocated for an LSP to guarantee Qos treatment. The = implementation=20 is vendor specific.
     
    Regards,
    Phaniraj
     

    From: Padmavathi Chilukoori=20 [mailto:paddams.2003@gmail.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, November = 28, 2007=20 12:28 PM
    To: mpls@lists.ietf.org
    Cc:=20 filippo.cugini@cnit.it; Vattem, Phaniraj (Phaniraj)
    Subject: = Re:=20 [mpls] WRR between LSP's.

    Hi,
    Thanks for your responses.
    I will rephrase my = query as i=20 believe it is not strictly an implementation issue alone.
    While = reading the=20 RFC 3209, i get an impression that the LSP bandwidth reservation = means, some=20 sort of queuing discipline instance taking place on the data-plane. = though=20 this is not stated explicitly in the RFC, i do expect this.
    When a = router-vendor says it support RFC 3209, what should dean as RFC = compliant? Is=20 it enough if the implementation simply maintains " an account" of = bandwidth=20 reserved without actually reaching it in the data-plane using a = scheduler like=20 WRR for the LSP's?

    Waiting for your valuable = responses,

    Thanks=20 & Regards,
    Padmavathi.


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