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From: "Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
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Stephen says it all.

There will (possibly, and in the opinion of the authors) be some =
situations where e2e encryption is not possible or desirable, but =
encryption over a single MPLS hop will add value (perhaps over a =
vulnerable link).

Of course, if you choose to achieve e2e encryption by concatenating =
hop-by-hop encryption on every hop, then you will have achieved exactly =
what you talk about. That would have the costs you describe, and someone =
doing that (it's a deployment choice!) would have to have a reason.

Adrian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Farrell [mailto:stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie]
> Sent: 30 January 2015 11:34
> To: Uma Chunduri; adrian@olddog.co.uk; mpls@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [mpls] FW: New Version Notification for =
draft-farrelll-mpls-
> opportunistic-encrypt-04.txt
>=20
>=20
> Hiya,
>=20
> On 30/01/15 01:41, Uma Chunduri wrote:
> > Hi Stephen,
> >
> > In-line [Uma]:
> >
> > --
> > Uma C.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen Farrell [mailto:stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:33 AM
> > To: Uma Chunduri; adrian@olddog.co.uk; mpls@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [mpls] FW: New Version Notification for =
draft-farrelll-mpls-
> opportunistic-encrypt-04.txt
> >
> >
> >
> > On 29/01/15 04:03, Uma Chunduri wrote:
> >>  But the important point here is - packet is getting encrypted and =
decrypted
> >>                multiple times;
> >
> > Sorry, but that is not the case. The packet is encrypted once and =
decrypted
> once when following this specification. And the packet can traverse =
LSRs whilst
> encrypted without those having to decrypt and then re-encrypt.
> >
> > [Uma]: I am sure then there is some gap (in my understanding =
perhaps??), but
> from the draft I clearly see this-
> >
> > From Section 3:
> >
> >                     ----------- .      -----------
> >                    | Top Label | .    | Label 15  |
> >                    +-----------+  .   +-----------+
> >                    |   Label   |   .  | MEL   S=3D1 |
> >                    +-----------+    . +-----------+
> >                    | Label S=3D1 |     .| Ctrl Word |
> >                    +-----------+      +-----------+
> >                    |           |      |           |
> >                    ~  Payload  ~      ~ Encrypted ~
> >                    |           |      |           |
> >                     -----------........-----------
> >
> >         Figure 1 : The Use of the MEL for Hop-by-Hop Encryption
> >
> >
> > Each LSR has to decrypt first to get the top label and at the egress =
swap it
> without label encrypt with keys for the neighbor, put MEL and send =
out, right?
> And the same should happen at each LSR..isn=E2=80=99t it??
> >
>=20
> I'm afraid not. Figure 1 is about hop-by-hop (as it says in the
> Figure caption copied above). There is only one hop and hence
> no repeated en/decryption.
>=20
> And (if we look down the page a few centimeters:-) we also have
> Figure 2:
>=20
>                    -----------        -----------
>                    | Top Label |      | Top Label |
>                    +-----------+      +-----------+
>                    |   Label   |      |   Label   |
>                    +-----------+.     +-----------+
>                    |   Label   | .    | Label 15  |
>                    +-----------+  .   +-----------+
>                    |   Label   |   .  | MEL   S=3D1 |
>                    +-----------+    . +-----------+
>                    | Label S=3D1 |     .| Ctrl Word |
>                    +-----------+      +-----------+
>                    |           |      |           |
>                    ~  Payload  ~      ~ Encrypted ~
>                    |           |      |           |
>                     -----------........-----------
>=20
>         Figure 2 : The Use of the MEL for End-to-End Encryption
>=20
> Which I think makes things quite clear - the top label is present
> in clear as required.
>=20
> It just would not make any sense (and it simply wouldn't work) for
> this specification to require such repeated en/decryptions of the
> same payload. If there is any text that implies one does that,
> then that text needs fixing and I'd be delighted to see OLD/NEW
> form corrections offered. But I do not see any such text to be
> honest.
>=20
> Cheers,
> S.
>=20
>=20
> >
> > The entire e2e path of a packet may cause it to traverse more than =
one
> encrypt/decrypt but that is as true for IPsec as it is for this. That =
is, one can
> arrange that the endpoints of cryptographic protection are wherever =
you want.
> >
> > S.
> >


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Thank you for addressing my concern.



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I am not aware of any IPRs other than already disclosed below.

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Uma C.


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Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-esale-mpls-app-aware-tldp

Working group,

An adoption poll will be started on draft-esale-mpls-app-aware-tldp.
We will run the IPR poll in parallel.

This mail starts that IPR poll.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-esale-mpls-app- aware-tldp?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R=
FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

Currently there are currently 1 IPR disclosure that relates to this documen=
t.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to thi=
s email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

*The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.*

The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been r=
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Thanks, Loa
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : MPLS-TP Operations, Administration, and Management (OAM) Identifiers Management Information Base (MIB)
        Authors         : Sam Aldrin
                          Venkatesan Mahalingam
                          Kannan KV Sampath
                          Thomas D. Nadeau
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-07.txt
	Pages           : 28
	Date            : 2015-02-02

Abstract:
   This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
   for use with network management protocols in the Internet community.
   In particular, it describes Operations, Administration, and
   Management (OAM) identifiers related managed objects for
   Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) and MPLS based Transport Profile
   (TP).


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Hi

I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. 
The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related 
drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and 
sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide 
assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing 
Directorate, please see ​ 
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir

Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it 
would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF 
Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through 
discussion or by updating the draft.

Document: draft-ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast-15
Reviewer: Stig Venaas
Review Date: 2 February 2015
IETF LC End Date: 2 February 2015
Intended Status: Proposed Standard

Summary:
The document is fairly well written. I only found minor editorial
issues, plus potentially a missing IANA action.

The document states in e.g.
6.2.2. Leaf A-D Route for Global Table Multicast
that the RD in the MCAST-VPN NLRI is set to all 1s for (*,G)-state.
Is this use of RD defined in another document? Shouldn't RD type
65535 then be assigned for this purpose in
http://www.iana.org/assignments/route-distinguisher-types/route-distinguisher-types.xhtml

Minor issues:

Section 3:
The reader is suppose to be familiar with MVPN procedures and
               ^^^^^^^^

although this by no means imply that this alternative
                           ^^^^^^

5.1.2. Routes re-avertise by PE or ASBR
               ^^^^^^^^^^^
5.2.2. Routes re-avertise by PE or ASBR
               ^^^^^^^^^^^

Stig


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Folks,

First we have a problem with the draft-ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast aliases.
The mail does not go directly to most of the authors, even though I
guess the authors should see this through the mpls wg list.

I've copied the authors with their addresses directly.

Stig,

See inline please.

On 2015-02-03 05:38, Stig Venaas wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft.
> The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related
> drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and
> sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide
> assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing
> Directorate, please see ​
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir
>
> Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it
> would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF
> Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through
> discussion or by updating the draft.
>
> Document: draft-ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast-15
> Reviewer: Stig Venaas
> Review Date: 2 February 2015
> IETF LC End Date: 2 February 2015
> Intended Status: Proposed Standard
>
> Summary:
> The document is fairly well written. I only found minor editorial
> issues, plus potentially a missing IANA action.

Section 15 is the IANA section, can you be mote specific about
"potentially a missing IANA action"?

/Loa
>
> The document states in e.g.
> 6.2.2. Leaf A-D Route for Global Table Multicast
> that the RD in the MCAST-VPN NLRI is set to all 1s for (*,G)-state.
> Is this use of RD defined in another document? Shouldn't RD type
> 65535 then be assigned for this purpose in
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/route-distinguisher-types/route-distinguisher-types.xhtml
>
>
> Minor issues:
>
> Section 3:
> The reader is suppose to be familiar with MVPN procedures and
>                ^^^^^^^^
>
> although this by no means imply that this alternative
>                            ^^^^^^
>
> 5.1.2. Routes re-avertise by PE or ASBR
>                ^^^^^^^^^^^
> 5.2.2. Routes re-avertise by PE or ASBR
>                ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Stig
>
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Senior MPLS Expert                          loa@pi.nu
Huawei Technologies (consultant)     phone: +46 739 81 21 64


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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        
        RFC 7442

        Title:      Carrying Protocol Independent Multicast - 
                    Sparse Mode (PIM-SM) in Any-Source Multicast 
                    (ASM) Mode Trees over Multipoint LDP (mLDP) 
        Author:     Y. Rekhter, R. Aggarwal,
                    N. Leymann, W. Henderickx,
                    Q. Zhao, R. Li
        Status:     Standards Track
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       February 2015
        Mailbox:    yakov@juniper.net, 
                    raggarwa_1@yahoo.com, 
                    N.Leymann@telekom.de,
                    wim.henderickx@alcatel-lucent.com, 
                    quintin.zhao@huawei.com,
                    renwei.li@huawei.com
        Pages:      11
        Characters: 24020
        Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:   None

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-mpls-pim-sm-over-mldp-03.txt

        URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7442

When IP multicast trees created by Protocol Independent
Multicast - Sparse Mode (PIM-SM) in Any-Source Multicast (ASM) mode
need to pass through an MPLS domain, it may be desirable to map such
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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        
        RFC 7447

        Title:      Deprecation of BGP Entropy Label 
                    Capability Attribute 
        Author:     J. Scudder, K. Kompella
        Status:     Standards Track
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       February 2015
        Mailbox:    jgs@juniper.net, 
                    kireeti@juniper.net
        Pages:      4
        Characters: 7486
        Updates:    RFC 6790

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-mpls-deprecate-bgp-entropy-label-02.txt

        URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7447

The BGP Entropy Label Capability attribute is defined in RFC 6790.
Regrettably, it has a bug: although RFC 6790 mandates that routers
incapable of processing Entropy Labels must remove the attribute,
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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        Title           : MPLS Transport Profile Linear Protection MIB
        Authors         : Kingston Smiler Selvaraj
                          Venkatesan Mahalingam
                          Vishwas Manral
                          Daniel King
                          Sam Aldrin
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib-04.txt
	Pages           : 30
	Date            : 2015-02-03

Abstract:
   This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
   for use with network management protocols. In particular it defines
   objects for managing MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) Linear
   Protection.


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        Title           : mLDP Node Protection
        Authors         : IJsbrand Wijnands
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                          Kamran Raza
                          Jeff Tantsura
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                          Quintin Zhao
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-mldp-node-protection-03.txt
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Abstract:
   This document describes procedures to support node protection for
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   (MP LSPs) that has been built by "Multipoint Label Distribution
   Protocol"(mLDP).  In order to protect a node N, the Point of Local
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   N such that traffic can be redirected to them in case node N fails.
   Redirecting the traffic around the failed node N depends on existing
   P2P LSPs.  The pre-established LSPs originate from the PLR LSR and
   terminate on the MPT LSRs while bypassing LSR N.


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        Title           : IANA registries for LSP ping Code Points
        Authors         : Bruno Decraene
                          Nobo Akiya
                          Carlos Pignataro
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                          Sam Aldrin
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registry-01.txt
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Abstract:
   RFC 4379 and RFC 6424 created name spaces for Multiprotocol Label
   Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping.  However, those RFCs
   did not create the corresponding IANA registries for the Downstream
   Mapping object Flags (DS Flags), Multipath Type, Pad TLV and Address
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   There is now a need to make further code point allocations from these
   name spaces.  This document updates RFC 4379 and RFC 6424 in that it
   creates the IANA registries for that purpose.


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Hi,

-01 address the (editorial) comments received during WG Last Call.=20
Diff: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registry-=
01

Thanks to Julien for his comments.

Bruno

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>=20
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct=
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>  This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working G=
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> of the IETF.
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>         Title           : IANA registries for LSP ping Code Points
>         Authors         : Bruno Decraene
>                           Nobo Akiya
>                           Carlos Pignataro
>                           Loa Andersson
>                           Sam Aldrin
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registry-01.txt
> 	Pages           : 6
> 	Date            : 2015-02-03
>=20
> Abstract:
>    RFC 4379 and RFC 6424 created name spaces for Multiprotocol Label
>    Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping.  However, those RFCs
>    did not create the corresponding IANA registries for the Downstream
>    Mapping object Flags (DS Flags), Multipath Type, Pad TLV and Address
>    Types.
>=20
>    There is now a need to make further code point allocations from these
>    name spaces.  This document updates RFC 4379 and RFC 6424 in that it
>    creates the IANA registries for that purpose.
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> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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On 2/2/2015 4:38 PM, Stig Venaas wrote:
> The document states in e.g. 6.2.2. Leaf A-D Route for Global Table
> Multicast that the RD in the MCAST-VPN NLRI is set to all 1s for
> (*,G)-state. Is this use of RD defined in another document?

No it isn't.

> Shouldn't RD type 65535 then be assigned for this purpose in
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/route-distinguisher-types/route-distinguisher-types.xhtml

Stig,

I think you're right, the draft should do something to prevent a future 
draft from using -1 in the RD field.  Perhaps we should ask IANA to 
assign value 65535  to "for use only as specified in this document".

Of course, IANA will complain that we're not supposed to ask for 
specific assignments, but it's a bit too late to ask for early 
allocation ;-)

Eric

P.S.: The nits you pointed out are fixed in the source.


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This draft adds useful new functionality to targeted LDP, I support it for
WG adoption.

Cheers,
Andy


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> Working Group,
>
> This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-esale-mpls-app-
> aware-tldp-03 as an MPLS working group document.
>
> Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working
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> motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that
> the document should not be adopted as a working group document.
>
> There is 1 IPR disclosure against this document. An IPR has been
> started in parallel to the adoption poll, and the adoption
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> If you are on the the mpls working group mailing list and
> aware of IPR that relates to this draft, you should respond to the
> IPR poll.
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> This poll ends February 14, 2015.
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Sue,

Tnx - though I'm not sure here.

Adrian, Pearl and Eric you need to look at the proposal below.

The early allocation follows the same rules as other allocations when
it comes to assigning specific values.

What I see here is that Eric want to assign 65535 from the
Route Distinguisher Type Field; values 32768-65535 are assigned under
IETF Consensus.

We have a document that is past IETF Last Call (2 days) in fact the
comments from Stig was part of the IETF Last Call comments.

I think Eric is correct, it is to late for an early allocation. What I
propose, given that Adrian and IANA (Pearl) agree, is that Eric add
some text in response to the LC comment that says:

In body text (Eric you'll have to flesh it out a bit).

"A RD field with the value [TBAx] is for use only as specified in this 
document."

And in the IANA section.

"IANA is requested to assign a new Route Distinguisher Type from the
Route Distinguisher Type Field registry. The highest available value in
the IETF consensus range should be assigned."

/Loa


On 2015-02-04 09:48, Susan Hares wrote:
> Eric:
>
> An early allocation just needs a review of your WG chairs and AD.  Start the conversation with Loa - he's good at working through these issues.
>
> Sue
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
> On 2/2/2015 4:38 PM, Stig Venaas wrote:
>> The document states in e.g. 6.2.2. Leaf A-D Route for Global Table
>> Multicast that the RD in the MCAST-VPN NLRI is set to all 1s for
>> (*,G)-state. Is this use of RD defined in another document?
>
> No it isn't.
>
>> Shouldn't RD type 65535 then be assigned for this purpose in
>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/route-distinguisher-types/route-distin
>> guisher-types.xhtml
>
> Stig,
>
> I think you're right, the draft should do something to prevent a future draft from using -1 in the RD field.  Perhaps we should ask IANA to assign value 65535  to "for use only as specified in this document".
>
> Of course, IANA will complain that we're not supposed to ask for specific assignments, but it's a bit too late to ask for early allocation ;-)
>
> Eric
>
> P.S.: The nits you pointed out are fixed in the source.
>
>

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Authors,

I think there are a few minor comments that you already have
captured in your working copy, I should be time to post that
now.

/Loa

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Working Group,

We've been mulling over or milestones for quite some time.

I'm not that happy with how the milestones work today, and will take
a requirement discussion with the tools people after Dallas.

There are a number of issues

- It is very hard to group several drafts together to form a single
   milestone that is possible to track
- The meaning of e.g. "Submit draft-ietf-mpls-foo-bar for publication"
   for publication has changed over time. When we first used it was to
   reflect the actual "publication request", later it became close to the
   "AD go ahead" after "the AD evaluation", now we have more work in
   and after IETF Last Call, during the IESG evaluation and the IANA and
   RFC Editor processing.

To reflect this the milestone of the format:

Jan 2015 Submit draft-ietf-mpls-foo-bar for publication

will be marked "Done" after the IETF Last Call is done and a new
milestone of the format

Feb 2015 ++ Progress Jan draft-ietf-mpls-foo-bar to publication

That milestone will be marked done when the RFC is published. It also
have a click-able link to take you directly to the draft from the
charter page.

There are some draft past IETF Last but where this change has not been
made, this will be sorted out over time.

I don't think this is ideal and hope we can do something once
requirements are discussed and understood.


/Loa
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Eric:=20

An early allocation just needs a review of your WG chairs and AD.  Start =
the conversation with Loa - he's good at working through these issues. =20

Sue=20

-----Original Message-----
From: rtg-dir [mailto:rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eric C =
Rosen
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 10:27 AM
To: Stig Venaas; draft-ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast.all@tools.ietf.org; =
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Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] [mpls] Routing Directorate Review of =
draft-ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast-15

On 2/2/2015 4:38 PM, Stig Venaas wrote:
> The document states in e.g. 6.2.2. Leaf A-D Route for Global Table=20
> Multicast that the RD in the MCAST-VPN NLRI is set to all 1s for=20
> (*,G)-state. Is this use of RD defined in another document?

No it isn't.

> Shouldn't RD type 65535 then be assigned for this purpose in=20
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/route-distinguisher-types/route-distin
> guisher-types.xhtml

Stig,

I think you're right, the draft should do something to prevent a future =
draft from using -1 in the RD field.  Perhaps we should ask IANA to =
assign value 65535  to "for use only as specified in this document".

Of course, IANA will complain that we're not supposed to ask for =
specific assignments, but it's a bit too late to ask for early =
allocation ;-)

Eric

P.S.: The nits you pointed out are fixed in the source.



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        Title           : IPv6 Router Alert Option for MPLS OAM
        Authors         : Kamran Raza
                          Nobo Akiya
                          Carlos Pignataro
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-oam-ipv6-rao-03.txt
	Pages           : 6
	Date            : 2015-02-04

Abstract:
   RFC 4379 defines the MPLS LSP Ping/Traceroute mechanism, in which the
   Router Alert Option MUST be set in the IP header of the MPLS Echo
   Request messages, and may conditionally be set in the IP header of
   the MPLS Echo Reply messages depending on the Reply Mode used.  While
   a generic "Router shall examine packet" Option Value is used for the
   IPv4 Router Alert Option (RAO), there is no generic Router Alert
   Option Value defined for IPv6 that can be used.  This document
   allocates a new generic IPv6 Router Alert Option Value that can be
   used by MPLS OAM tools, including the MPLS Echo Request and MPLS Echo
   Reply messages for MPLS in IPv6 environments.  Consequently, it
   updates RFC 4379.

   The initial motivation to request an IPv6 Router Alert Option (RAO)
   Value for MPLS OAM comes from MPLS LSP Ping/Traceroute.  However,
   this Value is applicable to all MPLS OAM and not limited to MPLS LSP
   Ping/Traceroute.


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Loa:

Thanks for doing what you can.  =20

Sue=20

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Sue,

Tnx - though I'm not sure here.

Adrian, Pearl and Eric you need to look at the proposal below.

The early allocation follows the same rules as other allocations when it =
comes to assigning specific values.

What I see here is that Eric want to assign 65535 from the Route =
Distinguisher Type Field; values 32768-65535 are assigned under IETF =
Consensus.

We have a document that is past IETF Last Call (2 days) in fact the =
comments from Stig was part of the IETF Last Call comments.

I think Eric is correct, it is to late for an early allocation. What I =
propose, given that Adrian and IANA (Pearl) agree, is that Eric add some =
text in response to the LC comment that says:

In body text (Eric you'll have to flesh it out a bit).

"A RD field with the value [TBAx] is for use only as specified in this =
document."

And in the IANA section.

"IANA is requested to assign a new Route Distinguisher Type from the =
Route Distinguisher Type Field registry. The highest available value in =
the IETF consensus range should be assigned."

/Loa


On 2015-02-04 09:48, Susan Hares wrote:
> Eric:
>
> An early allocation just needs a review of your WG chairs and AD.  =
Start the conversation with Loa - he's good at working through these =
issues.
>
> Sue
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rtg-dir [mailto:rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eric C=20
> Rosen
> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 10:27 AM
> To: Stig Venaas; draft-ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast.all@tools.ietf.org;=20
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> Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] [mpls] Routing Directorate Review of=20
> draft-ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast-15
>
> On 2/2/2015 4:38 PM, Stig Venaas wrote:
>> The document states in e.g. 6.2.2. Leaf A-D Route for Global Table=20
>> Multicast that the RD in the MCAST-VPN NLRI is set to all 1s for=20
>> (*,G)-state. Is this use of RD defined in another document?
>
> No it isn't.
>
>> Shouldn't RD type 65535 then be assigned for this purpose in=20
>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/route-distinguisher-types/route-disti
>> n
>> guisher-types.xhtml
>
> Stig,
>
> I think you're right, the draft should do something to prevent a =
future draft from using -1 in the RD field.  Perhaps we should ask IANA =
to assign value 65535  to "for use only as specified in this document".
>
> Of course, IANA will complain that we're not supposed to ask for=20
> specific assignments, but it's a bit too late to ask for early=20
> allocation ;-)
>
> Eric
>
> P.S.: The nits you pointed out are fixed in the source.
>
>

--=20


Loa Andersson                        email: loa@mail01.huawei.com
Senior MPLS Expert                          loa@pi.nu
Huawei Technologies (consultant)     phone: +46 739 81 21 64


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        Title           : Inter-Area P2MP Segmented LSPs
        Authors         : Yakov Rekhter
                          Eric C Rosen
                          Rahul Aggarwal
                          Thomas Morin
                          Irene Grosclaude
                          Nicolai Leymann
                          Samir Saad
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Abstract:
   This document describes procedures for building inter-area point-to-
   multipoint (P2MP) segmented service LSPs by partitioning such LSPs
   into intra-area segments and using BGP as the inter-area routing and
   label distribution protocol. Within each IGP area the intra-area
   segments are either carried over intra-area P2MP LSPs, using P2MP LSP
   hierarchy, or instantiated using ingress replication.  The intra-area
   P2MP LSPs may be signaled using P2MP RSVP-TE or P2MP mLDP. If ingress
   replication is used within an IGP area, then (multipoint-to-point)
   LDP LSPs or (point-to-point) RSVP-TE LSPs may be used in the IGP
   area. The applications/services that use such inter-area service LSPs
   may be BGP Multicast VPN, VPLS multicast, or global table multicast
   over MPLS.




The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast/

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http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast-16

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Dear all,
I appreciate if the authors provided some input on this question.

Regards,
Mustapha.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Aissaoui, Mustapha
> (Mustapha)
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:17 PM
> To: mpls@ietf.org
> Subject: [mpls] Missing RFC in draft-ietf-mpls-ipv6-only-gap?
>=20
> Dear all,
> I recently was made aware of RFC 5549 which seems to cover a couple of th=
e
> gaps in draft-ietf-mpls-ipv6-only-gap:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5549
>=20
> RFC 5549 extends MP-BGP with the ability for an IPv4 NLRI (AFI=3D1, SAFI=
=3D1),
> labeled IPv4 NLRI (AFI=3D1, SAFI=3D4), and VPN-IPv4 NLRI (AFI=3D1, SAFI=
=3D128) to use
> an IPv6 next-hop. This would I believe cover scenario 2 in sections 3.3.2=
, 3.3.2.1,
> and 3.3.2.1 for the above types of routes.
>=20
> I missed this during the MPLS-RT review and I appreciate if the authors c=
ould
> confirm my observation.
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> I apologize if this was already discussed.
>=20
> Regards,
> Mustapha.
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Working Group,

"Gap Analysis for Operating IPv6-Only MPLS Networks" (RFC 7439) was
published about a month ago.

One thing that brought up when progressing this document was that,
even though the document is a good start and extremely useful, we will
need a way to keep keep track of the MPLS/IPv6 gaps.

It has been suggested that this environment is likely to be "fluid,
i.e. new gaps are discovered and old are closed.

One idea that brought forward was that we should create a wiki-page
for this. However this discussion was deferred waiting for the
publication of the RFC.

We would now like comments on how to continue to keep track of the
MPLS/IPv6 gaps in general and the idea to do this via a wiki-page in
particular.

/Loa
mpls wg co-chair



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Loa Andersson                        email: loa@mail01.huawei.com
Senior MPLS Expert                          loa@pi.nu
Huawei Technologies (consultant)     phone: +46 739 81 21 64


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Hmmm,

There was a thread between the authors and chairs discussing this, but it wasn't
summarised back to the list.

Could someone do that, please.

Adrian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Aissaoui, Mustapha
> (Mustapha)
> Sent: 04 February 2015 23:15
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> Subject: Re: [mpls] Missing RFC in draft-ietf-mpls-ipv6-only-gap?
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> Dear all,
> I appreciate if the authors provided some input on this question.
> 
> Regards,
> Mustapha.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Aissaoui, Mustapha
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> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:17 PM
> > To: mpls@ietf.org
> > Subject: [mpls] Missing RFC in draft-ietf-mpls-ipv6-only-gap?
> >
> > Dear all,
> > I recently was made aware of RFC 5549 which seems to cover a couple of the
> > gaps in draft-ietf-mpls-ipv6-only-gap:
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5549
> >
> > RFC 5549 extends MP-BGP with the ability for an IPv4 NLRI (AFI=1, SAFI=1),
> > labeled IPv4 NLRI (AFI=1, SAFI=4), and VPN-IPv4 NLRI (AFI=1, SAFI=128) to
use
> > an IPv6 next-hop. This would I believe cover scenario 2 in sections 3.3.2,
3.3.2.1,
> > and 3.3.2.1 for the above types of routes.
> >
> > I missed this during the MPLS-RT review and I appreciate if the authors
could
> > confirm my observation.
> >
> > I apologize if this was already discussed.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mustapha.
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Wes,

Tnx - I was about to sit down and write pretty much the same mail, a
further comment would be that doing a gap analysis is always at risk of
not cover 100%, but that that on the other hand is not a real problem.
what we need now is some way of following how the gaps evolves/closes
and this could be handle as part of that.

/Loa

On 2015-02-05 21:58, George, Wes wrote:
> The discussion went like this:
>
> By the time we were made aware of this, the document was already in
> auth48, and we did not think that the addition of an informational
> reference was something that we could credibly do during auth48, which is
> intended for minor wording and formatting tweaks only. This would have
> required recalling the document and putting it back through the process,
> and we didn't see this update as being critical to the document's quality.
>
> The way that we left it was that this could certainly be filed via the
> errata process if the WG thinks that it is important, but it could also be
> tracked via whatever means we decide to track the gaps (see other thread).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wes
>
>
> On 2/5/15, 6:09 AM, "Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hmmm,
>>
>> There was a thread between the authors and chairs discussing this, but it
>> wasn't
>> summarised back to the list.
>>
>> Could someone do that, please.
>>
>> Adrian
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Aissaoui,
>>> Mustapha
>>> (Mustapha)
>>> Sent: 04 February 2015 23:15
>>> To: mpls@ietf.org
>>> Subject: Re: [mpls] Missing RFC in draft-ietf-mpls-ipv6-only-gap?
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> I appreciate if the authors provided some input on this question.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mustapha.
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Aissaoui,
>>> Mustapha
>>>> (Mustapha)
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:17 PM
>>>> To: mpls@ietf.org
>>>> Subject: [mpls] Missing RFC in draft-ietf-mpls-ipv6-only-gap?
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> I recently was made aware of RFC 5549 which seems to cover a couple
>>> of the
>>>> gaps in draft-ietf-mpls-ipv6-only-gap:
>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5549
>>>>
>>>> RFC 5549 extends MP-BGP with the ability for an IPv4 NLRI (AFI=1,
>>> SAFI=1),
>>>> labeled IPv4 NLRI (AFI=1, SAFI=4), and VPN-IPv4 NLRI (AFI=1,
>>> SAFI=128) to
>> use
>>>> an IPv6 next-hop. This would I believe cover scenario 2 in sections
>>> 3.3.2,
>> 3.3.2.1,
>>>> and 3.3.2.1 for the above types of routes.
>>>>
>>>> I missed this during the MPLS-RT review and I appreciate if the
>>> authors
>> could
>>>> confirm my observation.
>>>>
>>>> I apologize if this was already discussed.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Mustapha.
>>>>
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Wes,

I sympathize that a wiki is another place that can get out of date - but it
is
at least a common public place that can be viewed.

We may want to find a coordinator to track what's happening, keep the wiki
up to date, and encourage the work.   I don't think that's a full-time job
but
something that someone who is interested in the subject (say for a day-job
doing the implementation) might be interested in.

Thoughts?

Regards,
Alia

On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:28 AM, George, Wes <wesley.george@twcable.com>
wrote:

> Well, I think the solution depends on where in the new framework of the
> Routing Area the work ends up, because there may be more groups than this
> one that need to be involved in the discussion of how to track/address.
>
> My preference would be to have milestones or charter items added in the
> appropriate WGs, and to have the drafts that are written to address the
> gap formally update RFC7439 so that there is a link between the documents,
> I.e. "This document updates RFC7439 by closing the gap discussed in
> section(s) x.y." This follows a relatively standard process using the
> tools we already use, and puts a defined work item in place to ensure that
> gaps are addressed in a timely manner by the right folks.
>
> I'm not totally opposed to setting up a Wiki, but IMO a wiki would be just
> one more place where we need to track potential work items, and honestly,
> one more place for them to be ignored. It raises the question of not only
> who is responsible for entering the initial items, but who is responsible
> for tracking which WG and authors are working on fixes in which drafts,
> and whether the proposed solution actually does fix the identified gap,
> and what is to be done if gaps are sitting idle and unaddressed. That
> seems like a full-time job to me, one that the AD certainly doesn't have
> time for, the WG chair or secretary may not have scope for (if the work
> spans multiple WGs), and I as one of the authors of the gap analysis
> personally cannot sign up for.
>
> Perhaps the right thing to do is to tee this discussion up for the next
> Routing Area open meeting, or even a plenary, since tracking and resolving
> gap analyses is something that needs to be improved IETF-wide. I'm open to
> writing a quick BCP draft suggesting the above if people believe that it
> would be a useful way to have the discussion with a wider audience.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wes
>
>
> On 2/5/15, 12:10 AM, "Loa Andersson" <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
>
> >Working Group,
> >
> >"Gap Analysis for Operating IPv6-Only MPLS Networks" (RFC 7439) was
> >published about a month ago.
> >
> >One thing that brought up when progressing this document was that,
> >even though the document is a good start and extremely useful, we will
> >need a way to keep keep track of the MPLS/IPv6 gaps.
> >
> >It has been suggested that this environment is likely to be "fluid,
> >i.e. new gaps are discovered and old are closed.
> >
> >One idea that brought forward was that we should create a wiki-page
> >for this. However this discussion was deferred waiting for the
> >publication of the RFC.
> >
> >We would now like comments on how to continue to keep track of the
> >MPLS/IPv6 gaps in general and the idea to do this via a wiki-page in
> >particular.
> >
> >/Loa
> >mpls wg co-chair
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >
> >Loa Andersson                        email: loa@mail01.huawei.com
> >Senior MPLS Expert                          loa@pi.nu
> >Huawei Technologies (consultant)     phone: +46 739 81 21 64
> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Wes,<div><br></div><div>I sympathize that a wiki is anothe=
r place that can get out of date - but it is</div><div>at least a common pu=
blic place that can be viewed.</div><div><br></div><div>We may want to find=
 a coordinator to track what&#39;s happening, keep the wiki</div><div>up to=
 date, and encourage the work. =C2=A0 I don&#39;t think that&#39;s a full-t=
ime job but</div><div>something that someone who is interested in the subje=
ct (say for a day-job</div><div>doing the implementation) might be interest=
ed in.</div><div><br></div><div>Thoughts?</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,=
</div><div>Alia</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:28 AM, George, Wes <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:wesley.george@twcable.com" target=3D"_blank">wesley.geor=
ge@twcable.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Well=
, I think the solution depends on where in the new framework of the<br>
Routing Area the work ends up, because there may be more groups than this<b=
r>
one that need to be involved in the discussion of how to track/address.<br>
<br>
My preference would be to have milestones or charter items added in the<br>
appropriate WGs, and to have the drafts that are written to address the<br>
gap formally update RFC7439 so that there is a link between the documents,<=
br>
I.e. &quot;This document updates RFC7439 by closing the gap discussed in<br=
>
section(s) x.y.&quot; This follows a relatively standard process using the<=
br>
tools we already use, and puts a defined work item in place to ensure that<=
br>
gaps are addressed in a timely manner by the right folks.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m not totally opposed to setting up a Wiki, but IMO a wiki would be j=
ust<br>
one more place where we need to track potential work items, and honestly,<b=
r>
one more place for them to be ignored. It raises the question of not only<b=
r>
who is responsible for entering the initial items, but who is responsible<b=
r>
for tracking which WG and authors are working on fixes in which drafts,<br>
and whether the proposed solution actually does fix the identified gap,<br>
and what is to be done if gaps are sitting idle and unaddressed. That<br>
seems like a full-time job to me, one that the AD certainly doesn&#39;t hav=
e<br>
time for, the WG chair or secretary may not have scope for (if the work<br>
spans multiple WGs), and I as one of the authors of the gap analysis<br>
personally cannot sign up for.<br>
<br>
Perhaps the right thing to do is to tee this discussion up for the next<br>
Routing Area open meeting, or even a plenary, since tracking and resolving<=
br>
gap analyses is something that needs to be improved IETF-wide. I&#39;m open=
 to<br>
writing a quick BCP draft suggesting the above if people believe that it<br=
>
would be a useful way to have the discussion with a wider audience.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Wes<br>
<div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On 2/5/15, 12:10 AM, &quot;Loa Andersson&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:loa@pi=
.nu">loa@pi.nu</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt;Working Group,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&quot;Gap Analysis for Operating IPv6-Only MPLS Networks&quot; (RFC 743=
9) was<br>
&gt;published about a month ago.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;One thing that brought up when progressing this document was that,<br>
&gt;even though the document is a good start and extremely useful, we will<=
br>
&gt;need a way to keep keep track of the MPLS/IPv6 gaps.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;It has been suggested that this environment is likely to be &quot;fluid=
,<br>
&gt;i.e. new gaps are discovered and old are closed.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;One idea that brought forward was that we should create a wiki-page<br>
&gt;for this. However this discussion was deferred waiting for the<br>
&gt;publication of the RFC.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;We would now like comments on how to continue to keep track of the<br>
&gt;MPLS/IPv6 gaps in general and the idea to do this via a wiki-page in<br=
>
&gt;particular.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;/Loa<br>
&gt;mpls wg co-chair<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;--<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Loa Andersson=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 email: <a href=3D"mailto:loa@mail01.huawei.com"=
>loa@mail01.huawei.com</a><br>
&gt;Senior MPLS Expert=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:loa@pi.nu">loa@pi.=
nu</a><br>
&gt;Huawei Technologies (consultant)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0phone: <a href=3D"t=
el:%2B46%20739%2081%2021%2064" value=3D"+46739812164">+46 739 81 21 64</a><=
br>
&gt;<br>
</div></div>&gt;_______________________________________________<br>
&gt;mpls mailing list<br>
&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:mpls@ietf.org">mpls@ietf.org</a><br>
&gt;<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls" target=3D"_blank=
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Hi Loa, Sue, Eric, Adrian, et al.

Adrian, we have a question for you.

We received the added IANA action from Eric as per the discussion below.
Here is a copy of Eric's proposed text in version -16::

[[[
This document makes use of a Route Distinguisher whose value is all
1's. The two-octet type field of this Route Distinguisher thus has
the value 65535. IANA is therefore requested to assign the value
65535 from the "Route Distinguisher Type Field" registry to "For Use
Only in Certain Leaf A-D Routes", with this document as the
reference.
]]]

The registry is located at http://www.iana.org/assignments/route-distinguisher-types.
Values 32768-65535 are assigned under IETF Consensus.

The above text looks fine.  Since it looks like the draft is almost approved,
Is it okay to complete the requested action when the document has been approved?
If you need an early assignment now to lock down the value 65535, we need Adrian
to advise us how to proceed.

Thanks,
~pl

Pearl Liang
ICANN


On Wed Feb 04 04:06:36 2015, loa@pi.nu wrote:
> Sue,
> 
> Tnx - though I'm not sure here.
> 
> Adrian, Pearl and Eric you need to look at the proposal below.
> 
> The early allocation follows the same rules as other allocations when
> it comes to assigning specific values.
> 
> What I see here is that Eric want to assign 65535 from the
> Route Distinguisher Type Field; values 32768-65535 are assigned under
> IETF Consensus.
> 
> We have a document that is past IETF Last Call (2 days) in fact the
> comments from Stig was part of the IETF Last Call comments.
> 
> I think Eric is correct, it is to late for an early allocation. What I
> propose, given that Adrian and IANA (Pearl) agree, is that Eric add
> some text in response to the LC comment that says:
> 
> In body text (Eric you'll have to flesh it out a bit).
> 
> "A RD field with the value [TBAx] is for use only as specified in this
> document."
> 
> And in the IANA section.
> 
> "IANA is requested to assign a new Route Distinguisher Type from the
> Route Distinguisher Type Field registry. The highest available value
> in
> the IETF consensus range should be assigned."
> 
> /Loa
> 
> 
> On 2015-02-04 09:48, Susan Hares wrote:
> > Eric:
> >
> > An early allocation just needs a review of your WG chairs and AD.
> > Start the conversation with Loa - he's good at working through these
> > issues.
> >
> > Sue
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rtg-dir [mailto:rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eric C
> > Rosen
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 10:27 AM
> > To: Stig Venaas; draft-ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast.all@tools.ietf.org;
> > mpls@ietf.org
> > Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org; erosen@juniper.net; rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] [mpls] Routing Directorate Review of draft-
> > ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast-15
> >
> > On 2/2/2015 4:38 PM, Stig Venaas wrote:
> >> The document states in e.g. 6.2.2. Leaf A-D Route for Global Table
> >> Multicast that the RD in the MCAST-VPN NLRI is set to all 1s for
> >> (*,G)-state. Is this use of RD defined in another document?
> >
> > No it isn't.
> >
> >> Shouldn't RD type 65535 then be assigned for this purpose in
> >> http://www.iana.org/assignments/route-distinguisher-types/route-
> >> distin
> >> guisher-types.xhtml
> >
> > Stig,
> >
> > I think you're right, the draft should do something to prevent a
> > future draft from using -1 in the RD field.  Perhaps we should ask
> > IANA to assign value 65535  to "for use only as specified in this
> > document".
> >
> > Of course, IANA will complain that we're not supposed to ask for
> > specific assignments, but it's a bit too late to ask for early
> > allocation ;-)
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > P.S.: The nits you pointed out are fixed in the source.
> >
> >



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Hi Pearl,

Thanks for this.

I do not believe you need to make any early allocation assignment.
It seems to me that an allocation of this particular code point is very =
unlikely to arrive in the next couple of weeks.

The text is now in the draft, and the draft is on its way to the IESG =
for evaluation on 19/2

Cheers,
Adrian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pearl Liang via RT [mailto:iana-issues@iana.org]
> Sent: 05 February 2015 19:42
> Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk; loa@pi.nu; erosen@juniper.net; =
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> rtg-dir@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; stig@venaas.com; =
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> ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast.all@tools.ietf.org; =
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> liang@icann.org
> Subject: [IANA #807148] Re: [RTG-DIR] [mpls] Routing Directorate =
Review of
> draft-ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast-15
>=20
> Hi Loa, Sue, Eric, Adrian, et al.
>=20
> Adrian, we have a question for you.
>=20
> We received the added IANA action from Eric as per the discussion =
below.
> Here is a copy of Eric's proposed text in version -16::
>=20
> [[[
> This document makes use of a Route Distinguisher whose value is all
> 1's. The two-octet type field of this Route Distinguisher thus has
> the value 65535. IANA is therefore requested to assign the value
> 65535 from the "Route Distinguisher Type Field" registry to "For Use
> Only in Certain Leaf A-D Routes", with this document as the
> reference.
> ]]]
>=20
> The registry is located at =
http://www.iana.org/assignments/route-distinguisher-
> types.
> Values 32768-65535 are assigned under IETF Consensus.
>=20
> The above text looks fine.  Since it looks like the draft is almost =
approved,
> Is it okay to complete the requested action when the document has been
> approved?
> If you need an early assignment now to lock down the value 65535, we =
need
> Adrian
> to advise us how to proceed.
>=20
> Thanks,
> ~pl
>=20
> Pearl Liang
> ICANN
>=20
>=20
> On Wed Feb 04 04:06:36 2015, loa@pi.nu wrote:
> > Sue,
> >
> > Tnx - though I'm not sure here.
> >
> > Adrian, Pearl and Eric you need to look at the proposal below.
> >
> > The early allocation follows the same rules as other allocations =
when
> > it comes to assigning specific values.
> >
> > What I see here is that Eric want to assign 65535 from the
> > Route Distinguisher Type Field; values 32768-65535 are assigned =
under
> > IETF Consensus.
> >
> > We have a document that is past IETF Last Call (2 days) in fact the
> > comments from Stig was part of the IETF Last Call comments.
> >
> > I think Eric is correct, it is to late for an early allocation. What =
I
> > propose, given that Adrian and IANA (Pearl) agree, is that Eric add
> > some text in response to the LC comment that says:
> >
> > In body text (Eric you'll have to flesh it out a bit).
> >
> > "A RD field with the value [TBAx] is for use only as specified in =
this
> > document."
> >
> > And in the IANA section.
> >
> > "IANA is requested to assign a new Route Distinguisher Type from the
> > Route Distinguisher Type Field registry. The highest available value
> > in
> > the IETF consensus range should be assigned."
> >
> > /Loa
> >
> >
> > On 2015-02-04 09:48, Susan Hares wrote:
> > > Eric:
> > >
> > > An early allocation just needs a review of your WG chairs and AD.
> > > Start the conversation with Loa - he's good at working through =
these
> > > issues.
> > >
> > > Sue
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rtg-dir [mailto:rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eric =
C
> > > Rosen
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 10:27 AM
> > > To: Stig Venaas; =
draft-ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast.all@tools.ietf.org;
> > > mpls@ietf.org
> > > Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org; erosen@juniper.net; rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org
> > > Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] [mpls] Routing Directorate Review of draft-
> > > ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast-15
> > >
> > > On 2/2/2015 4:38 PM, Stig Venaas wrote:
> > >> The document states in e.g. 6.2.2. Leaf A-D Route for Global =
Table
> > >> Multicast that the RD in the MCAST-VPN NLRI is set to all 1s for
> > >> (*,G)-state. Is this use of RD defined in another document?
> > >
> > > No it isn't.
> > >
> > >> Shouldn't RD type 65535 then be assigned for this purpose in
> > >> http://www.iana.org/assignments/route-distinguisher-types/route-
> > >> distin
> > >> guisher-types.xhtml
> > >
> > > Stig,
> > >
> > > I think you're right, the draft should do something to prevent a
> > > future draft from using -1 in the RD field.  Perhaps we should ask
> > > IANA to assign value 65535  to "for use only as specified in this
> > > document".
> > >
> > > Of course, IANA will complain that we're not supposed to ask for
> > > specific assignments, but it's a bit too late to ask for early
> > > allocation ;-)
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > > P.S.: The nits you pointed out are fixed in the source.
> > >
> > >



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Hi Adrian,

Thank you for the reply.  I've responded to the Evaluation request.

Cheers,
~pl


On Thu Feb 05 20:49:09 2015, adrian@olddog.co.uk wrote:
> Hi Pearl,
> 
> Thanks for this.
> 
> I do not believe you need to make any early allocation assignment.
> It seems to me that an allocation of this particular code point is
> very unlikely to arrive in the next couple of weeks.
> 
> The text is now in the draft, and the draft is on its way to the IESG
> for evaluation on 19/2
> 
> Cheers,
> Adrian
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pearl Liang via RT [mailto:iana-issues@iana.org]
> > Sent: 05 February 2015 19:42
> > Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk; loa@pi.nu; erosen@juniper.net;
> > shares@ndzh.com;
> > rtg-dir@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; stig@venaas.com; rtg-
> > ads@tools.ietf.org; draft-
> > ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast.all@tools.ietf.org;
> > michelle.cotton@icann.org;
> > liang@icann.org
> > Subject: [IANA #807148] Re: [RTG-DIR] [mpls] Routing Directorate
> > Review of
> > draft-ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast-15
> >
> > Hi Loa, Sue, Eric, Adrian, et al.
> >
> > Adrian, we have a question for you.
> >
> > We received the added IANA action from Eric as per the discussion
> > below.
> > Here is a copy of Eric's proposed text in version -16::
> >
> > [[[
> > This document makes use of a Route Distinguisher whose value is all
> > 1's. The two-octet type field of this Route Distinguisher thus has
> > the value 65535. IANA is therefore requested to assign the value
> > 65535 from the "Route Distinguisher Type Field" registry to "For Use
> > Only in Certain Leaf A-D Routes", with this document as the
> > reference.
> > ]]]
> >
> > The registry is located at http://www.iana.org/assignments/route-
> > distinguisher-
> > types.
> > Values 32768-65535 are assigned under IETF Consensus.
> >
> > The above text looks fine.  Since it looks like the draft is almost
> > approved,
> > Is it okay to complete the requested action when the document has
> > been
> > approved?
> > If you need an early assignment now to lock down the value 65535, we
> > need
> > Adrian
> > to advise us how to proceed.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > ~pl
> >
> > Pearl Liang
> > ICANN
> >
> >
> > On Wed Feb 04 04:06:36 2015, loa@pi.nu wrote:
> > > Sue,
> > >
> > > Tnx - though I'm not sure here.
> > >
> > > Adrian, Pearl and Eric you need to look at the proposal below.
> > >
> > > The early allocation follows the same rules as other allocations
> > > when
> > > it comes to assigning specific values.
> > >
> > > What I see here is that Eric want to assign 65535 from the
> > > Route Distinguisher Type Field; values 32768-65535 are assigned
> > > under
> > > IETF Consensus.
> > >
> > > We have a document that is past IETF Last Call (2 days) in fact the
> > > comments from Stig was part of the IETF Last Call comments.
> > >
> > > I think Eric is correct, it is to late for an early allocation.
> > > What I
> > > propose, given that Adrian and IANA (Pearl) agree, is that Eric add
> > > some text in response to the LC comment that says:
> > >
> > > In body text (Eric you'll have to flesh it out a bit).
> > >
> > > "A RD field with the value [TBAx] is for use only as specified in
> > > this
> > > document."
> > >
> > > And in the IANA section.
> > >
> > > "IANA is requested to assign a new Route Distinguisher Type from
> > > the
> > > Route Distinguisher Type Field registry. The highest available
> > > value
> > > in
> > > the IETF consensus range should be assigned."
> > >
> > > /Loa
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2015-02-04 09:48, Susan Hares wrote:
> > > > Eric:
> > > >
> > > > An early allocation just needs a review of your WG chairs and AD.
> > > > Start the conversation with Loa - he's good at working through
> > > > these
> > > > issues.
> > > >
> > > > Sue
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: rtg-dir [mailto:rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eric
> > > > C
> > > > Rosen
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 10:27 AM
> > > > To: Stig Venaas; draft-ietf-mpls-seamless-
> > > > mcast.all@tools.ietf.org;
> > > > mpls@ietf.org
> > > > Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org; erosen@juniper.net; rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] [mpls] Routing Directorate Review of
> > > > draft-
> > > > ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast-15
> > > >
> > > > On 2/2/2015 4:38 PM, Stig Venaas wrote:
> > > >> The document states in e.g. 6.2.2. Leaf A-D Route for Global
> > > >> Table
> > > >> Multicast that the RD in the MCAST-VPN NLRI is set to all 1s for
> > > >> (*,G)-state. Is this use of RD defined in another document?
> > > >
> > > > No it isn't.
> > > >
> > > >> Shouldn't RD type 65535 then be assigned for this purpose in
> > > >> http://www.iana.org/assignments/route-distinguisher-types/route-
> > > >> distin
> > > >> guisher-types.xhtml
> > > >
> > > > Stig,
> > > >
> > > > I think you're right, the draft should do something to prevent a
> > > > future draft from using -1 in the RD field.  Perhaps we should
> > > > ask
> > > > IANA to assign value 65535  to "for use only as specified in this
> > > > document".
> > > >
> > > > Of course, IANA will complain that we're not supposed to ask for
> > > > specific assignments, but it's a bit too late to ask for early
> > > > allocation ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > >
> > > > P.S.: The nits you pointed out are fixed in the source.
> > > >
> > > >




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Working Group,

draft-ietf-mpls-mldp-node-protection is through working group last call
and we have consensus to continue to request publication.

For the publication request a Shepherds Write-up is needed and one of
the question we need to answer is about existing implementations.

This mail starts the implementation poll.

If you have an implementation of draft-ietf-mpls-mldp-node-protection
please tell the mailing list and/or the chairs.

/Loa
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Martin,

When version -11 of draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp were posted, the authors sent
a mail to people holding DISCUSSES, saying that this version of the
draft should resolve all outstanding issues.

Have you checked if your issues are resolved and of so are ready to
clear?

/Loa
document shepherd cape on

On 2015-01-31 18:51, Black, David wrote:
> Martin and Stephen,
>
> This -11 draft version contains text that should be sufficient to resolve
> your Discuss concerns.  Please check that text and clear the Discuss
> positions if the text is sufficient to resolve your concerns.
>
> Thanks,
> --David
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 5:28 AM
>> To: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp@tools.ietf.org; Loa
>> Andersson; mpls@ietf.org; akatlas@gmail.com; stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie;
>> mls.ietf@gmail.com
>> Subject: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp-11.txt
>>
>>
>> A new version (-11) has been submitted for draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp:
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp-11.txt
>>
>> Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed
>>
>>
>> The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp/
>>
>> Diff from previous version:
>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp-11
>>
>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>
>> IETF Secretariat.
>

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Hi Loa,

I have cleared my Discuss since a couple of days already.=20

Have a good weekend

  Martin

> On 06.02.2015, at 10:20, "Loa Andersson" <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
>=20
> Martin,
>=20
> When version -11 of draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp were posted, the authors sent
> a mail to people holding DISCUSSES, saying that this version of the
> draft should resolve all outstanding issues.
>=20
> Have you checked if your issues are resolved and of so are ready to
> clear?
>=20
> /Loa
> document shepherd cape on
>=20
>> On 2015-01-31 18:51, Black, David wrote:
>> Martin and Stephen,
>>=20
>> This -11 draft version contains text that should be sufficient to resolv=
e
>> your Discuss concerns.  Please check that text and clear the Discuss
>> positions if the text is sufficient to resolve your concerns.
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> --David
>>=20
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org]
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 5:28 AM
>>> To: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp@tools.ietf.org; =
Loa
>>> Andersson; mpls@ietf.org; akatlas@gmail.com; stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie;
>>> mls.ietf@gmail.com
>>> Subject: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp-11.txt
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> A new version (-11) has been submitted for draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp:
>>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp-11.txt
>>>=20
>>> Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp/
>>>=20
>>> Diff from previous version:
>>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-mpls-in-udp-11
>>>=20
>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submi=
ssion
>>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>>=20
>>> IETF Secretariat.
>=20
> --=20
>=20
>=20
> Loa Andersson                        email: loa@mail01.huawei.com
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Stephen,

When version -11 of draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp were posted, the authors sent
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Have you checked if your issues are resolved and of so are ready to
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/Loa
document shepherd cape on

On 2015-01-31 18:51, Black, David wrote:
> Martin and Stephen,
>
> This -11 draft version contains text that should be sufficient to resolve
> your Discuss concerns.  Please check that text and clear the Discuss
> positions if the text is sufficient to resolve your concerns.
>
> Thanks,
> --David
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 5:28 AM
>> To: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp@tools.ietf.org; Loa
>> Andersson; mpls@ietf.org; akatlas@gmail.com; stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie;
>> mls.ietf@gmail.com
>> Subject: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp-11.txt
>>
>>
>> A new version (-11) has been submitted for draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp:
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp-11.txt
>>
>> Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed
>>
>>
>> The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp/
>>
>> Diff from previous version:
>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp-11
>>
>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>
>> IETF Secretariat.
>

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Martin,

Sorry - I read the web page wrong, it is Stephen who has not cleared.

/Loa

On 2015-02-06 22:08, Martin Stiemerling wrote:
> Hi Loa,
>
> I have cleared my Discuss since a couple of days already.
>
> Have a good weekend
>
>    Martin
>
>> On 06.02.2015, at 10:20, "Loa Andersson" <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
>>
>> Martin,
>>
>> When version -11 of draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp were posted, the authors sent
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>> draft should resolve all outstanding issues.
>>
>> Have you checked if your issues are resolved and of so are ready to
>> clear?
>>
>> /Loa
>> document shepherd cape on
>>
>>> On 2015-01-31 18:51, Black, David wrote:
>>> Martin and Stephen,
>>>
>>> This -11 draft version contains text that should be sufficient to resolve
>>> your Discuss concerns.  Please check that text and clear the Discuss
>>> positions if the text is sufficient to resolve your concerns.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> --David
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 5:28 AM
>>>> To: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp@tools.ietf.org; Loa
>>>> Andersson; mpls@ietf.org; akatlas@gmail.com; stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie;
>>>> mls.ietf@gmail.com
>>>> Subject: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp-11.txt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A new version (-11) has been submitted for draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp:
>>>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp-11.txt
>>>>
>>>> Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is:
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp/
>>>>
>>>> Diff from previous version:
>>>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp-11
>>>>
>>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
>>>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
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>>>> IETF Secretariat.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Loa Andersson                        email: loa@mail01.huawei.com
>> Senior MPLS Expert                          loa@pi.nu
>> Huawei Technologies (consultant)     phone: +46 739 81 21 64

-- 


Loa Andersson                        email: loa@mail01.huawei.com
Senior MPLS Expert                          loa@pi.nu
Huawei Technologies (consultant)     phone: +46 739 81 21 64


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Hi Loa,

Sorry for being slow. Yes, those changes look like they work
to me. Thanks all for handling the discuss and I've cleared.

Cheers,
S.

On 06/02/15 14:19, Loa Andersson wrote:
> Stephen,
> 
> When version -11 of draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp were posted, the authors sent
> a mail to people holding DISCUSSES, saying that this version of the
> draft should resolve all outstanding issues.
> 
> Have you checked if your issues are resolved and of so are ready to
> clear?
> 
> /Loa
> document shepherd cape on
> 
> On 2015-01-31 18:51, Black, David wrote:
>> Martin and Stephen,
>>
>> This -11 draft version contains text that should be sufficient to resolve
>> your Discuss concerns.  Please check that text and clear the Discuss
>> positions if the text is sufficient to resolve your concerns.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --David
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> Subject: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp-11.txt
>>>
>>>
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>>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp-11.txt
>>>
>>> Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed
>>>
>>>
>>> The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is:
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>>>
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>>>
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>>
> 


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The IESG has approved the following document:
- 'Encapsulating MPLS in UDP'
  (draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp-11.txt) as Proposed Standard

This document is the product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working
Group.

The IESG contact persons are Adrian Farrel and Alia Atlas.

A URL of this Internet Draft is:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp/




Technical Summary

   This document specifies an IP-based encapsulation for MPLS, referred to as MPLS-in-
   UDP (User Datagram Protocol). It also  describes the applicability of this encapsulation 
   in presence of other IP-based encapsulations for MPLS. This encapsulation allows for 
   two Label Switching Routers (LSR) to be adjacent on a Label Switched Path (LSP), 
   while separated by an IP network. 

Working Group Summary

   There is consensus to progress this document.

Document Quality

   There are existing implementations of the protocol, and more than one vendor is 
   believed to be either implementing or planning to implement. The document has been 
   well reviewed. 

Personnel

   Loa Andersson is the Document Shepherd 
   Alia Atlas is the Responsible Area Director.


RFC Editor Note:
   Please add Martin Stiemerling to the list of names in Section 9 Acknowledgements.


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Hi authors, 

Thanks for this simple and useful document.

I've done my usual AD review and I only have a couple of nits to do
with the way the IANA information is present. If you could resolve them
either by telling me I'm a fool or by fixing the text, then we can move
forward.

Thanks,
Adrian

===

Brace yourselves for the IESG saying that this does not Update 4379 and
6424. We'll handle it when it happens :-)

---

Section 2.1 has a final paragraph
   Note that "DS Flags" is a field included in two TLVs defined in
   "Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Paths (LSPs)
   Ping Parameters - TLVs" registry: Downstream Mapping TLV (value 2)
   and Downstream Detailed Mapping TLV (value 20).  Modification to "DS
   Flags" registry will affect both TLVs.
Is IANA supposed to take any action as a result of this paragraph? Or is
this just an observation for the reader?

If the former: it's not clear what.
If the latter: IANA will be unhappy to find commentary in the IANA 
section. We'll need to delete it or find somewhere else to move it to.

---

Section 2.2

   Assignments of Multipath Types are via Standards Action [RFC5226].

Except there are four that are marked "Experimental" which are
presumably not assigned via Standards Action.

You can fix this by saying:   

   The registration policies [RFC5226] for this registry are:

          0-250     Standards Action
        251-254     Experimental
            255     Standards Action

   IANA is requested to make the following initial assignments

          0    no multipath                             RFC4379
          1    Unassigned
          2    IP address                               RFC4379
          3    Unassigned
          4    IP address range                         RFC4379
        5-7    Unassigned
          8    Bit-masked IP address set                RFC4379
          9    Bit-masked label set                     RFC4379
     10-250    Unassigned
    251-254    Experimental                             This document
        255    Reserved                                 This document
   
---

Similar issue in 2.3 and 2.4

---

Section 4 can presumably be deleted.


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                          Quintin Zhao
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Hi Folks,

A lot of us are currently working on Yang model drafts. In the framework of=
 routing protocols related drafts, we have some discussion regarding how to=
 model the configuration of routing protocols and especially do it need to =
be routing-instance centric or protocol centric (see slides for quick expla=
nation of the difference). This is a cross protocol discussion, as we would=
 like to apply the same design to all.

In order to decide how to progress on this major design point, one point  i=
s to evaluate current implementations and how many are routing-instance cen=
tric and protocol centric. The famous implementations are well known, but w=
e would like to have a more global view. This metric would be one among oth=
ers.

In order to help us to do this inventory, could you please respond unicast =
to me, if you are an implementor and you have an implementation of a routin=
g-protocol (ISIS,OSPF,RIP,BGP, PIM ... but also MPLS-TE, LDP, RSVP ...) and=
 in this case, what is your CLI flavor ?

Please use this sample format, so it would be easier for me to aggregate :
(If you own multiple implementations, you can fill multiple lines.)


Vendor

OS

Protocol Centric

VRF centric

Cisco

IOS/IOS-XE

X





Thanks for your help !


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Stephane Litkowski
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">A lot of us are currently working on Yang model draf=
ts. In the framework of routing protocols related drafts, we have some disc=
ussion regarding how to model the configuration of routing protocols and es=
pecially do it need to be routing-instance
 centric or protocol centric (see slides for quick explanation of the diffe=
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same design to all.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">In order to decide how to progress on this major des=
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any are routing-instance centric and protocol centric. The famous implement=
ations are well known, but we would like
 to have a more global view. This metric would be one among others.<o:p></o=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">In order to help us to do this inventory, could you =
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lementation of a routing-protocol (ISIS,OSPF,RIP,BGP, PIM &#8230; but also =
MPLS-TE, LDP, RSVP &#8230;) and in this case,
 what is your CLI flavor ? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">(If you own multiple implementations, you can fill m=
ultiple lines.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Updates to LDP for IPv6
        Authors         : Rajiv Asati
                          Carlos Pignataro
                          Vishwas Manral
                          Rajiv Papneja
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-16.txt
	Pages           : 25
	Date            : 2015-02-11

Abstract:
   The Label Distribution Protocol (LDP) specification defines
   procedures to exchange label bindings over either IPv4, or IPv6 or
   both networks. This document corrects and clarifies the LDP behavior
   when IPv6 network is used (with or without IPv4). This document
   updates RFC 5036 and RFC 6720.




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Yes/support=20

Regards,
Jeff
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu]=20
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:10 PM
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> Subject: poll to see if we have consensus tp adopt draft-esale-mpls-app-a=
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>=20
> Working Group,
>=20
> This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-esale-mpls-app-
> aware-tldp-03 as an MPLS working group document.
>=20
> Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working group=
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support/not support, especially if you think that the document should not b=
e adopted as a working group document.
>=20
> There is 1 IPR disclosure against this document. An IPR has been started =
in parallel to the adoption poll, and the adoption poll will not be closed =
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>=20
> If you are on the the mpls working group mailing list and aware of IPR th=
at relates to this draft, you should respond to the IPR poll.
>=20
> This poll ends February 14, 2015.
>=20
> /Loa
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Yes/Support

-Pavan

On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:

> Working Group,
>
> This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-esale-mpls-app-
> aware-tldp-03 as an MPLS working group document.
>
> Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working
> group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical
> motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that
> the document should not be adopted as a working group document.
>
> There is 1 IPR disclosure against this document. An IPR has been
> started in parallel to the adoption poll, and the adoption
> poll will not be closed before we have responses from all authors.
>
> If you are on the the mpls working group mailing list and
> aware of IPR that relates to this draft, you should respond to the
> IPR poll.
>
> This poll ends February 14, 2015.
>
> /Loa
> --
>
>
> Loa Andersson                        email: loa@mail01.huawei.com
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Yes/Support<br><br></div>-Pavan<br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 2:1=
0 AM, Loa Andersson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:loa@pi.nu" targ=
et=3D"_blank">loa@pi.nu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex">Working Group,<br>
<br>
This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-esale-mpls-app-<br>
aware-tldp-03 as an MPLS working group document.<br>
<br>
Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working<br>
group mailing list (<a href=3D"mailto:mpls@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">mpls=
@ietf.org</a>). Please give a technical<br>
motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that<br>
the document should not be adopted as a working group document.<br>
<br>
There is 1 IPR disclosure against this document. An IPR has been<br>
started in parallel to the adoption poll, and the adoption<br>
poll will not be closed before we have responses from all authors.<br>
<br>
If you are on the the mpls working group mailing list and<br>
aware of IPR that relates to this draft, you should respond to the<br>
IPR poll.<br>
<br>
This poll ends February 14, 2015.<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888=
888"><br>
<br>
/Loa<br>
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Yes/support.

I have read the draft and it addresses a real problem.

Best regards,
Mach

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> Subject: [mpls] poll to see if we have consensus tp adopt
> draft-esale-mpls-app-aware-tldp as an MPLS wg document
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> Working Group,
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> This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-esale-mpls-app-
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> support/not support, especially if you think that the document should not=
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> adopted as a working group document.
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> There is 1 IPR disclosure against this document. An IPR has been started =
in
> parallel to the adoption poll, and the adoption poll will not be closed b=
efore we
> have responses from all authors.
>=20
> If you are on the the mpls working group mailing list and aware of IPR th=
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> to this draft, you should respond to the IPR poll.
>=20
> This poll ends February 14, 2015.
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I am not aware of any IPR related to this either.

On 2015-02-12, 10:46 AM, "Chris Bowers" <cbowers@juniper.net> wrote:

>Loa,
>
>I am not aware of any undisclosed IPR on this document.
>
>Chris
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Subject: IPR poll on draft-esale-mpls-app-aware-tldp
>
>Working group,
>
>An adoption poll will be started on draft-esale-mpls-app-aware-tldp.
>We will run the IPR poll in parallel.
>
>This mail starts that IPR poll.
>
>Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-esale-mpls-app- aware-tldp?
>
>If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see
>RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
>
>Currently there are currently 1 IPR disclosure that relates to this
>document.
>
>If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
>this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.
>
>*The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.*
>
>The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been
>received from each author and contributor.
>
>If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
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>IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
>
>Thanks, Loa
>mpls wg co-chair
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>
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Working Group,

This adoption poll is closed, and we have a new working group document.

Could the authors please post draft-esale-mpls-app-aware-tldp-00,
without any other changes than administrativia (filename, date and
version number).

/Loa
mpls wg co-chair

On 2015-01-31 15:10, Loa Andersson wrote:
> Working Group,
>
> This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-esale-mpls-app-
> aware-tldp-03 as an MPLS working group document.
>
> Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working
> group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical
> motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that
> the document should not be adopted as a working group document.
>
> There is 1 IPR disclosure against this document. An IPR has been
> started in parallel to the adoption poll, and the adoption
> poll will not be closed before we have responses from all authors.
>
> If you are on the the mpls working group mailing list and
> aware of IPR that relates to this draft, you should respond to the
> IPR poll.
>
> This poll ends February 14, 2015.
>
> /Loa

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WG,

Of course I meant draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-00.

/Loa

On 2015-02-16 11:35, Loa Andersson wrote:
> Working Group,
>
> This adoption poll is closed, and we have a new working group document.
>
> Could the authors please post draft-esale-mpls-app-aware-tldp-00,
> without any other changes than administrativia (filename, date and
> version number).
>
> /Loa
> mpls wg co-chair
>
> On 2015-01-31 15:10, Loa Andersson wrote:
>> Working Group,
>>
>> This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-esale-mpls-app-
>> aware-tldp-03 as an MPLS working group document.
>>
>> Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working
>> group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical
>> motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that
>> the document should not be adopted as a working group document.
>>
>> There is 1 IPR disclosure against this document. An IPR has been
>> started in parallel to the adoption poll, and the adoption
>> poll will not be closed before we have responses from all authors.
>>
>> If you are on the the mpls working group mailing list and
>> aware of IPR that relates to this draft, you should respond to the
>> IPR poll.
>>
>> This poll ends February 14, 2015.
>>
>> /Loa
>

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Authors, Working Group,

I started to review draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed, but got stuck on the
problem statement.

If I understand you correctly, but I admit that I may have
misunderstood, you are saying that the scope of the document are uni-
directional explicit routed LSPs. A typical example would be MPLS-TE
LSPs, right?

You also say that for such an LSPs the egress would use the shortest
path for its control message, while the ingress will send control 
messages in-band.

Now in Asynchronous mode the BFD session will form a loop ingress -
egress - ingress, where ingress to egress is on the the monitored LSP,
while egress to ingress is out-of-band, right?

You say that since the egress to ingress control message will follow the
shortest path, which might not be co-routed with the ingress to egress
LSP, missing responses can't be taken as an indication of that the uni-
directional LSP needs to be re-routed.

While I agree with that statement, I don't see that if you give the
egress an explicit return/reverse path that is co-routed with the
monitored LSP you are really in a better shape to draw any conclusions.
Failure to receive egress to ingress control messages does not
necessarily  tell you anything about the state of the monitored LSP.

/Loa
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Senior MPLS Expert                          loa@pi.nu
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : IANA registries for LSP ping Code Points
        Authors         : Bruno Decraene
                          Nobo Akiya
                          Carlos Pignataro
                          Loa Andersson
                          Sam Aldrin
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registry-02.txt
	Pages           : 6
	Date            : 2015-02-16

Abstract:
   RFC 4379 and RFC 6424 created name spaces for Multiprotocol Label
   Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping.  However, those RFCs
   did not create the corresponding IANA registries for the Downstream
   Mapping object Flags (DS Flags), Multipath Type, Pad TLV and Address
   Types.

   There is now a need to make further code point allocations from these
   name spaces.  This document updates RFC 4379 and RFC 6424 in that it
   creates the IANA registries for that purpose.


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Hi all,

FYI -02 address comments raised by Adrian during his AD review.

No technical change but some clean up in the IANA section: http://www.ietf.=
org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registry-02

Thanks to Adrian for his comments.

Bruno

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The IESG has received a request from the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG
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  <draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registry-02.txt> as Proposed Standard

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Abstract

   RFC 4379 and RFC 6424 created name spaces for Multiprotocol Label
   Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping.  However, those RFCs
   did not create the corresponding IANA registries for the Downstream
   Mapping object Flags (DS Flags), Multipath Type, Pad TLV and Address
   Types.

   There is now a need to make further code point allocations from these
   name spaces.  This document updates RFC 4379 and RFC 6424 in that it
   creates the IANA registries for that purpose.


The file can be obtained via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registry/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registry/ballot/


No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.


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This Discuss ballot is probably more accurately a "Please clue in a TSV
AD who is trying to pattern match and failing" ballot, and likely quick
to resolve.

But, I'm looking at this text:

4.  Updates to RFC 4379

   [RFC4379] specifies the use of the Router Alert Option in the IP
   header.  Sections 4.3 and 4.5 of [RFC4379] are updated as follows:
   for every time in which the "Router Alert IP option" is used, the
   following text is appended:

      In case of an IPv4 header, the generic IPv4 Router Alert Option
      value 0x0 [RFC2113] SHOULD be used.  In case of an IPv6 header,
                          ^^^^^^
      the IPv6 Router Alert Option value TBD1 allocated through this
      document for MPLS OAM MUST be used.
      
When I click over to Section 4.3 of [RFC4379], I see this text:

4.3.  Sending an MPLS Echo Request

   An MPLS echo request is a UDP packet.  The IP header is set as
   follows: the source IP address is a routable address of the sender;
   the destination IP address is a (randomly chosen) IPv4 address from
   the range 127/8 or IPv6 address from the range
   0:0:0:0:0:FFFF:127/104.  The IP TTL is set to 1.  The source UDP port
   is chosen by the sender; the destination UDP port is set to 3503
   (assigned by IANA for MPLS echo requests).  The Router Alert option
   MUST be set in the IP header.
   ^^^^
   
Could you help me understand whether this is really a MUST in Section 4.3
of [RFC4379] that is morphing into a SHOULD for IPv4 and remaining a MUST
in IPv6?

I have the same confusion in Section 4.5, but I'm betting the same answer
applies.





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This Discuss ballot is probably more accurately a "Please clue in a TSV
AD who is trying to pattern match and failing" ballot, and likely quick
to resolve.

But, I'm looking at this text:

4.  Updates to RFC 4379

   [RFC4379] specifies the use of the Router Alert Option in the IP
   header.  Sections 4.3 and 4.5 of [RFC4379] are updated as follows:
   for every time in which the "Router Alert IP option" is used, the
   following text is appended:

      In case of an IPv4 header, the generic IPv4 Router Alert Option
      value 0x0 [RFC2113] SHOULD be used.  In case of an IPv6 header,
                          ^^^^^^
      the IPv6 Router Alert Option value TBD1 allocated through this
      document for MPLS OAM MUST be used.
      
When I click over to Section 4.3 of [RFC4379], I see this text:

4.3.  Sending an MPLS Echo Request

   An MPLS echo request is a UDP packet.  The IP header is set as
   follows: the source IP address is a routable address of the sender;
   the destination IP address is a (randomly chosen) IPv4 address from
   the range 127/8 or IPv6 address from the range
   0:0:0:0:0:FFFF:127/104.  The IP TTL is set to 1.  The source UDP port
   is chosen by the sender; the destination UDP port is set to 3503
   (assigned by IANA for MPLS echo requests).  The Router Alert option
   MUST be set in the IP header.
   ^^^^
   
Could you help me understand whether this is really a MUST in Section 4.3
of [RFC4379] that is morphing into a SHOULD for IPv4 and remaining a MUST
in IPv6?

I have the same confusion in Section 4.5, but I'm betting the same answer
applies.





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Hi everyone,

It is time we start building the MPLS WG agenda for the upcoming IETF92 at
Dallas.
The IETF agenda, still subject to change, is available at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda/

The MPLS WG sessions are currently to be finalized - will send out a note
once that is done.

For those planning to present, please send *me* (by replying to this
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Please send your requests by February 20th, 2015.

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Hi, Carlos,

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) <
cpignata@cisco.com> wrote:

>  Hi, Spencer,
>
>  Thanks for the question =E2=80=94 please see inline.
>
>  On Feb 16, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Spencer Dawkins <
> spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-mpls-oam-ipv6-rao-03: Discuss
>
> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this
> introductory paragraph, however.)
>
>
> Please refer to http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
>
>
> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-oam-ipv6-rao/
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> DISCUSS:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> This Discuss ballot is probably more accurately a "Please clue in a TSV
> AD who is trying to pattern match and failing" ballot, and likely quick
> to resolve.
>
> But, I'm looking at this text:
>
> 4.  Updates to RFC 4379
>
>   [RFC4379] specifies the use of the Router Alert Option in the IP
>   header.  Sections 4.3 and 4.5 of [RFC4379] are updated as follows:
>   for every time in which the "Router Alert IP option" is used, the
>   following text is appended:
>
>      In case of an IPv4 header, the generic IPv4 Router Alert Option
>      value 0x0 [RFC2113] SHOULD be used.  In case of an IPv6 header,
>                          ^^^^^^
>      the IPv6 Router Alert Option value TBD1 allocated through this
>      document for MPLS OAM MUST be used.
>
> When I click over to Section 4.3 of [RFC4379], I see this text:
>
> 4.3.  Sending an MPLS Echo Request
>
>   An MPLS echo request is a UDP packet.  The IP header is set as
>   follows: the source IP address is a routable address of the sender;
>   the destination IP address is a (randomly chosen) IPv4 address from
>   the range 127/8 or IPv6 address from the range
>   0:0:0:0:0:FFFF:127/104.  The IP TTL is set to 1.  The source UDP port
>   is chosen by the sender; the destination UDP port is set to 3503
>   (assigned by IANA for MPLS echo requests).  The Router Alert option
>   MUST be set in the IP header.
>   ^^^^
>
>
>  Right =E2=80=94 Section 4.3 of RFC 4379 says =E2=80=9C The Router Alert =
option MUST be
> set in the IP header=E2=80=9D and Section 4.5 of RFC 4379 says =E2=80=9CI=
P header MUST
> contain the Router Alert IP option=E2=80=9D.
>
>  However, these Sections do not specify what value ought to be used
> within the option.
>
>  That is, they specify the option (which contains a value) MUST be used,
> but are silent as to which value to use. This new draft closes that gap,
> and specifies that when the option is used (because of the MUST in 4379),
> then which values to use for IPv4 and IPv6 respectively.
>
>  In other words, this doc specifies the 2-octet value within
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2113#section-2.1 and
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2711#section-2.1
>
>  Could you help me understand whether this is really a MUST in Section 4.=
3
> of [RFC4379] that is morphing into a SHOULD for IPv4 and remaining a MUST
> in IPv6?
>
>
>  No. The MUST remains, and we are specifying what to do within the value
> when the option is used (following the 4379 MUST). We used MUST for the
> IPv6 value because it=E2=80=99s being defined here, and SHOULD for the IP=
v4 value
> because there are existing implementations and 4379 was focused on IPv4
> assuming the value of 0x0.
>
>
> I have the same confusion in Section 4.5, but I'm betting the same answer
> applies.
>
>
>  Ditto =E2=80=94 same answer.
>
>  Does this help?
>

Completely. I'm clearing.

Thanks!

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi, Carlos,<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Carlos Pignataro (cpignat=
a) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cpignata@cisco.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">cpignata@cisco.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex">



<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
Hi, Spencer,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks for the question =E2=80=94 please see inline.</div>
<div><br>
<div><div><div class=3D"h5">
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>On Feb 16, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Spencer Dawkins &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spe=
ncerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com=
</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<br>
<div>Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for<br>
draft-ietf-mpls-oam-ipv6-rao-03: Discuss<br>
<br>
When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all<br>
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ao/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
DISCUSS:<br>
----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<br>
This Discuss ballot is probably more accurately a &quot;Please clue in a TS=
V<br>
AD who is trying to pattern match and failing&quot; ballot, and likely quic=
k<br>
to resolve.<br>
<br>
But, I&#39;m looking at this text:<br>
<br>
4.=C2=A0 Updates to RFC 4379<br>
<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0[RFC4379] specifies the use of the Router Alert Option in the I=
P<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0header.=C2=A0 Sections 4.3 and 4.5 of [RFC4379] are updated as =
follows:<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0for every time in which the &quot;Router Alert IP option&quot; =
is used, the<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0following text is appended:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0In case of an IPv4 header, the generic IPv4 R=
outer Alert Option<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0value 0x0 [RFC2113] SHOULD be used.=C2=A0 In =
case of an IPv6 header,<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
^^^^^^<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0the IPv6 Router Alert Option value TBD1 alloc=
ated through this<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0document for MPLS OAM MUST be used.<br>
<br>
When I click over to Section 4.3 of [RFC4379], I see this text:<br>
<br>
4.3.=C2=A0 Sending an MPLS Echo Request<br>
<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0An MPLS echo request is a UDP packet.=C2=A0 The IP header is se=
t as<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0follows: the source IP address is a routable address of the sen=
der;<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0the destination IP address is a (randomly chosen) IPv4 address =
from<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0the range 127/8 or IPv6 address from the range<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A00:0:0:0:0:FFFF:127/104.=C2=A0 The IP TTL is set to 1.=C2=A0 The=
 source UDP port<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0is chosen by the sender; the destination UDP port is set to 350=
3<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0(assigned by IANA for MPLS echo requests).=C2=A0 The Router Ale=
rt option<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0MUST be set in the IP header.<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0^^^^<br>
<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
</div></div><div>Right =E2=80=94 Section 4.3 of RFC 4379 says =E2=80=9C The=
 Router Alert option MUST be set in the IP header=E2=80=9D and Section 4.5 =
of RFC 4379 says =E2=80=9CIP header MUST contain the Router Alert IP option=
=E2=80=9D.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>However, these Sections do not specify what value ought to be used wit=
hin the option.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>That is, they specify the option (which contains a value) MUST be used=
, but are silent as to which value to use. This new draft closes that gap, =
and specifies that when the option is used (because of the MUST in 4379), t=
hen which values to use for IPv4
 and IPv6 respectively.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>In other words, this doc specifies the 2-octet value within=C2=A0<a hr=
ef=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2113#section-2.1" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tps://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2113#section-2.1</a>=C2=A0and=C2=A0<a href=3D"=
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2711#section-2.1" target=3D"_blank">https://=
tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2711#section-2.1</a>=C2=A0</div><span class=3D"">
<br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>Could you help me understand whether this is really a MUST in Section =
4.3<br>
of [RFC4379] that is morphing into a SHOULD for IPv4 and remaining a MUST<b=
r>
in IPv6?<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
</span><div>No. The MUST remains, and we are specifying what to do within t=
he value when the option is used (following the 4379 MUST). We used MUST fo=
r the IPv6 value because it=E2=80=99s being defined here, and SHOULD for th=
e IPv4 value because there are existing implementations
 and 4379 was focused on IPv4 assuming the value of 0x0.</div><span class=
=3D"">
<br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div><br>
I have the same confusion in Section 4.5, but I&#39;m betting the same answ=
er<br>
applies.<br>
<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
</span><div>Ditto =E2=80=94 same answer.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Does this help?</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><di=
v>Completely. I&#39;m clearing.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!=C2=
=A0</div></div></div></div>

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Hi, Carlos,

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) <
cpignata@cisco.com> wrote:

>  Hi, Spencer,
>
>  Thanks for the question =E2=80=94 please see inline.
>
>  On Feb 16, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Spencer Dawkins <
> spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-mpls-oam-ipv6-rao-03: Discuss
>
> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this
> introductory paragraph, however.)
>
>
> Please refer to http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
>
>
> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-oam-ipv6-rao/
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> DISCUSS:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> This Discuss ballot is probably more accurately a "Please clue in a TSV
> AD who is trying to pattern match and failing" ballot, and likely quick
> to resolve.
>
> But, I'm looking at this text:
>
> 4.  Updates to RFC 4379
>
>   [RFC4379] specifies the use of the Router Alert Option in the IP
>   header.  Sections 4.3 and 4.5 of [RFC4379] are updated as follows:
>   for every time in which the "Router Alert IP option" is used, the
>   following text is appended:
>
>      In case of an IPv4 header, the generic IPv4 Router Alert Option
>      value 0x0 [RFC2113] SHOULD be used.  In case of an IPv6 header,
>                          ^^^^^^
>      the IPv6 Router Alert Option value TBD1 allocated through this
>      document for MPLS OAM MUST be used.
>
> When I click over to Section 4.3 of [RFC4379], I see this text:
>
> 4.3.  Sending an MPLS Echo Request
>
>   An MPLS echo request is a UDP packet.  The IP header is set as
>   follows: the source IP address is a routable address of the sender;
>   the destination IP address is a (randomly chosen) IPv4 address from
>   the range 127/8 or IPv6 address from the range
>   0:0:0:0:0:FFFF:127/104.  The IP TTL is set to 1.  The source UDP port
>   is chosen by the sender; the destination UDP port is set to 3503
>   (assigned by IANA for MPLS echo requests).  The Router Alert option
>   MUST be set in the IP header.
>   ^^^^
>
>
>  Right =E2=80=94 Section 4.3 of RFC 4379 says =E2=80=9C The Router Alert =
option MUST be
> set in the IP header=E2=80=9D and Section 4.5 of RFC 4379 says =E2=80=9CI=
P header MUST
> contain the Router Alert IP option=E2=80=9D.
>
>  However, these Sections do not specify what value ought to be used
> within the option.
>
>  That is, they specify the option (which contains a value) MUST be used,
> but are silent as to which value to use. This new draft closes that gap,
> and specifies that when the option is used (because of the MUST in 4379),
> then which values to use for IPv4 and IPv6 respectively.
>
>  In other words, this doc specifies the 2-octet value within
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2113#section-2.1 and
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2711#section-2.1
>
>  Could you help me understand whether this is really a MUST in Section 4.=
3
> of [RFC4379] that is morphing into a SHOULD for IPv4 and remaining a MUST
> in IPv6?
>
>
>  No. The MUST remains, and we are specifying what to do within the value
> when the option is used (following the 4379 MUST). We used MUST for the
> IPv6 value because it=E2=80=99s being defined here, and SHOULD for the IP=
v4 value
> because there are existing implementations and 4379 was focused on IPv4
> assuming the value of 0x0.
>
>
> I have the same confusion in Section 4.5, but I'm betting the same answer
> applies.
>
>
>  Ditto =E2=80=94 same answer.
>
>  Does this help?
>

Completely. I'm clearing.

Thanks!

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi, Carlos,<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Carlos Pignataro (cpignat=
a) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cpignata@cisco.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">cpignata@cisco.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex">



<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
Hi, Spencer,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks for the question =E2=80=94 please see inline.</div>
<div><br>
<div><div><div class=3D"h5">
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>On Feb 16, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Spencer Dawkins &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spe=
ncerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com=
</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<br>
<div>Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for<br>
draft-ietf-mpls-oam-ipv6-rao-03: Discuss<br>
<br>
When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all<br>
email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this<br>
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<br>
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arget=3D"_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-oam-ipv6-r=
ao/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
DISCUSS:<br>
----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<br>
This Discuss ballot is probably more accurately a &quot;Please clue in a TS=
V<br>
AD who is trying to pattern match and failing&quot; ballot, and likely quic=
k<br>
to resolve.<br>
<br>
But, I&#39;m looking at this text:<br>
<br>
4.=C2=A0 Updates to RFC 4379<br>
<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0[RFC4379] specifies the use of the Router Alert Option in the I=
P<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0header.=C2=A0 Sections 4.3 and 4.5 of [RFC4379] are updated as =
follows:<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0for every time in which the &quot;Router Alert IP option&quot; =
is used, the<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0following text is appended:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0In case of an IPv4 header, the generic IPv4 R=
outer Alert Option<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0value 0x0 [RFC2113] SHOULD be used.=C2=A0 In =
case of an IPv6 header,<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
^^^^^^<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0the IPv6 Router Alert Option value TBD1 alloc=
ated through this<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0document for MPLS OAM MUST be used.<br>
<br>
When I click over to Section 4.3 of [RFC4379], I see this text:<br>
<br>
4.3.=C2=A0 Sending an MPLS Echo Request<br>
<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0An MPLS echo request is a UDP packet.=C2=A0 The IP header is se=
t as<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0follows: the source IP address is a routable address of the sen=
der;<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0the destination IP address is a (randomly chosen) IPv4 address =
from<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0the range 127/8 or IPv6 address from the range<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A00:0:0:0:0:FFFF:127/104.=C2=A0 The IP TTL is set to 1.=C2=A0 The=
 source UDP port<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0is chosen by the sender; the destination UDP port is set to 350=
3<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0(assigned by IANA for MPLS echo requests).=C2=A0 The Router Ale=
rt option<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0MUST be set in the IP header.<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0^^^^<br>
<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
</div></div><div>Right =E2=80=94 Section 4.3 of RFC 4379 says =E2=80=9C The=
 Router Alert option MUST be set in the IP header=E2=80=9D and Section 4.5 =
of RFC 4379 says =E2=80=9CIP header MUST contain the Router Alert IP option=
=E2=80=9D.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>However, these Sections do not specify what value ought to be used wit=
hin the option.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>That is, they specify the option (which contains a value) MUST be used=
, but are silent as to which value to use. This new draft closes that gap, =
and specifies that when the option is used (because of the MUST in 4379), t=
hen which values to use for IPv4
 and IPv6 respectively.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>In other words, this doc specifies the 2-octet value within=C2=A0<a hr=
ef=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2113#section-2.1" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tps://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2113#section-2.1</a>=C2=A0and=C2=A0<a href=3D"=
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2711#section-2.1" target=3D"_blank">https://=
tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2711#section-2.1</a>=C2=A0</div><span class=3D"">
<br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>Could you help me understand whether this is really a MUST in Section =
4.3<br>
of [RFC4379] that is morphing into a SHOULD for IPv4 and remaining a MUST<b=
r>
in IPv6?<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
</span><div>No. The MUST remains, and we are specifying what to do within t=
he value when the option is used (following the 4379 MUST). We used MUST fo=
r the IPv6 value because it=E2=80=99s being defined here, and SHOULD for th=
e IPv4 value because there are existing implementations
 and 4379 was focused on IPv4 assuming the value of 0x0.</div><span class=
=3D"">
<br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div><br>
I have the same confusion in Section 4.5, but I&#39;m betting the same answ=
er<br>
applies.<br>
<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
</span><div>Ditto =E2=80=94 same answer.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Does this help?</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><di=
v>Completely. I&#39;m clearing.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!=C2=
=A0</div></div></div></div>

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Thanks for working with me to clear my Discuss, which was:

This Discuss ballot is probably more accurately a "Please clue in a TSV
AD who is trying to pattern match and failing" ballot, and likely quick
to resolve.

But, I'm looking at this text:

4.  Updates to RFC 4379

   [RFC4379] specifies the use of the Router Alert Option in the IP
   header.  Sections 4.3 and 4.5 of [RFC4379] are updated as follows:
   for every time in which the "Router Alert IP option" is used, the
   following text is appended:

      In case of an IPv4 header, the generic IPv4 Router Alert Option
      value 0x0 [RFC2113] SHOULD be used.  In case of an IPv6 header,
                          ^^^^^^
      the IPv6 Router Alert Option value TBD1 allocated through this
      document for MPLS OAM MUST be used.
      
When I click over to Section 4.3 of [RFC4379], I see this text:

4.3.  Sending an MPLS Echo Request

   An MPLS echo request is a UDP packet.  The IP header is set as
   follows: the source IP address is a routable address of the sender;
   the destination IP address is a (randomly chosen) IPv4 address from
   the range 127/8 or IPv6 address from the range
   0:0:0:0:0:FFFF:127/104.  The IP TTL is set to 1.  The source UDP port
   is chosen by the sender; the destination UDP port is set to 3503
   (assigned by IANA for MPLS echo requests).  The Router Alert option
   MUST be set in the IP header.
   ^^^^
   
Could you help me understand whether this is really a MUST in Section 4.3
of [RFC4379] that is morphing into a SHOULD for IPv4 and remaining a MUST
in IPv6?

I have the same confusion in Section 4.5, but I'm betting the same answer
applies.



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Thanks for working with me to clear my Discuss, which was:

This Discuss ballot is probably more accurately a "Please clue in a TSV
AD who is trying to pattern match and failing" ballot, and likely quick
to resolve.

But, I'm looking at this text:

4.  Updates to RFC 4379

   [RFC4379] specifies the use of the Router Alert Option in the IP
   header.  Sections 4.3 and 4.5 of [RFC4379] are updated as follows:
   for every time in which the "Router Alert IP option" is used, the
   following text is appended:

      In case of an IPv4 header, the generic IPv4 Router Alert Option
      value 0x0 [RFC2113] SHOULD be used.  In case of an IPv6 header,
                          ^^^^^^
      the IPv6 Router Alert Option value TBD1 allocated through this
      document for MPLS OAM MUST be used.
      
When I click over to Section 4.3 of [RFC4379], I see this text:

4.3.  Sending an MPLS Echo Request

   An MPLS echo request is a UDP packet.  The IP header is set as
   follows: the source IP address is a routable address of the sender;
   the destination IP address is a (randomly chosen) IPv4 address from
   the range 127/8 or IPv6 address from the range
   0:0:0:0:0:FFFF:127/104.  The IP TTL is set to 1.  The source UDP port
   is chosen by the sender; the destination UDP port is set to 3503
   (assigned by IANA for MPLS echo requests).  The Router Alert option
   MUST be set in the IP header.
   ^^^^
   
Could you help me understand whether this is really a MUST in Section 4.3
of [RFC4379] that is morphing into a SHOULD for IPv4 and remaining a MUST
in IPv6?

I have the same confusion in Section 4.5, but I'm betting the same answer
applies.



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Working Group,

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the
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Before we do the WGLC we want to do an IPR poll on the document.

This mail starts that IPR poll.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-o=
am-conf?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

Currently there are no IPR disclosures that relate to this document.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping=
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">draft is ready for working group last c=
all (WGLC).
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Before we do the WGLC we want to do an =
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">This mail starts that IPR poll.<o:p></o=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Are you aware of any IPR that applies t=
o draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-oam-conf?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Currently there are no IPR disclosures =
that relate to this document.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">If you are listed as a document author =
or contributor please respond to<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">this email regardless of whether or not=
 you are aware of any relevant<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Ross,

I'm not aware of any IPRs that relates to this draft.

/Loa

On 2015-02-17 09:23, Ross Callon wrote:
> Working Group,
>
> The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-oam-conf have told us
> that the
>
> draft is ready for working group last call (WGLC).
>
> Before we do the WGLC we want to do an IPR poll on the document.
>
> This mail starts that IPR poll.
>
> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to
> draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-oam-conf?
>
> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
>
> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
>
> Currently there are no IPR disclosures that relate to this document.
>
> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
>
> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
>
> IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The
>
> document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been
>
> received from each author and contributor.
>
> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
>
> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any
>
> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
>
> Thanks, Ross
>
> (as MPLS WG co-chair)
>

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Hi,
  Authors of this draft requesting any comments on this draft
draft-tiruveedhula-mpls-mldp-mib-03.txt.

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>A new version of I-D, draft-tiruveedhula-mpls-mldp-mib-03.txt
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>Name:		draft-tiruveedhula-mpls-mldp-mib
>Revision:	03
>Title:		Definitions of Managed Objects for the LDP Point-to-Multipoint
>and Multipoint-to-Multipoint Label Switched Paths
>Document date:	2014-10-10
>Group:		Individual Submission
>Pages:		36
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>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tiruveedhula-mpls-mldp-mib/
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>Abstract:
>   This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
>   for use with network management protocols.  In particular it defines
>   objects for managing multicast LDP point-to-multipoint (P2MP) and
>   multipoint-to-multipoint (MP2MP) Label Switched Paths.  The MIB
>   module defined in this document is extension of LDP MIB defined in
>   RFC3815 which supports only for LDP point-to-point LSPs.
>
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Hi Ross,
I'm not aware of any IPR related to this draft.

	Regards,
		Greg

On 2015-02-17 09:23, Ross Callon wrote:
> Working Group,
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> The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-oam-conf have told us=20
> that the
>
> draft is ready for working group last call (WGLC).
>
> Before we do the WGLC we want to do an IPR poll on the document.
>
> This mail starts that IPR poll.
>
> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to=20
> draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-oam-conf?
>
> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
>
> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
>
> Currently there are no IPR disclosures that relate to this document.
>
> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond=20
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>
> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
>
> IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The
>
> document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been
>
> received from each author and contributor.
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> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author=20
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> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of=20
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> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
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> Thanks, Ross
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> (as MPLS WG co-chair)
>

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Application-aware Targeted LDP
        Authors         : Santosh Esale
                          Raveendra Torvi
                          Chris Bowers
                          Luay Jalil
                          Uma Chunduri
                          Zhenbin Li
                          Kamran Raza
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-00.txt
	Pages           : 17
	Date            : 2015-02-16

Abstract:
   Recent targeted LDP applications such as remote loop-free alternates
   (LFA) and BGP auto discovered pseudowire may automatically establish
   a tLDP session to any LSR in a network. The initiating LSR has
   information about the targeted applications to administratively
   control initiation of the session. However the responding LSR has no
   such information to control acceptance of this session. This document
   defines a mechanism to advertise and negotiate Targeted Applications
   Capability during LDP session initialization. As the responding LSR
   becomes aware of targeted applications, it may establish a limited
   number of tLDP sessions for certain applications. In addition, each
   targeted application is mapped to LDP Forwarding Equivalence Class
   (FEC) Elements to advertise only necessary LDP FEC-label bindings
   over the session.



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Rather a lot of authors in this one.

Which, as I have commented on before, I do think a real issue of making
it unclear just who should do what when action on the I-D is needed -
like cutting back the number of authors to fit within the RFC Editor
guidelines:-)

Tom Petch


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>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.
>  This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching
Working Group of the IETF.
>
>         Title           : Application-aware Targeted LDP
>         Authors         : Santosh Esale
>                           Raveendra Torvi
>                           Chris Bowers
>                           Luay Jalil
>                           Uma Chunduri
>                           Zhenbin Li
>                           Kamran Raza
> Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-00.txt
> Pages           : 17
> Date            : 2015-02-16
>
> Abstract:
>    Recent targeted LDP applications such as remote loop-free
alternates
>    (LFA) and BGP auto discovered pseudowire may automatically
establish
>    a tLDP session to any LSR in a network. The initiating LSR has
>    information about the targeted applications to administratively
>    control initiation of the session. However the responding LSR has
no
>    such information to control acceptance of this session. This
document
>    defines a mechanism to advertise and negotiate Targeted
Applications
>    Capability during LDP session initialization. As the responding LSR
>    becomes aware of targeted applications, it may establish a limited
>    number of tLDP sessions for certain applications. In addition, each
>    targeted application is mapped to LDP Forwarding Equivalence Class
>    (FEC) Elements to advertise only necessary LDP FEC-label bindings
>    over the session.
>
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp/
>
> There's also a htmlized version available at:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-00
>
>
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Tom,

Chair hat on

- there are 7 authors ( I think I have a record of 22)
- there is a rule in RFC 7322, that says:
   "The total number of authors or editors on the first page is generally
    limited to five individuals and their affiliations.  If there is a
    request for more than five authors, the stream-approving body needs
    to consider if one or two editors should have primary responsibility
    for this document, with the other individuals listed in the
    Contributors or Acknowledgements section."
    So not an absolute requirement
- since the rule is there most chairs bring this up with the authors
   some time during the process up to "Publication Request"
- my practice (and I have forgotten a few times) is to bring this up
   after the 2nd IPR poll, since editors, authors, contributors and
   people acknowledge to have substantial contribution are required to
   respond explicitly to the IPR poll.
   If we start moving people around or off, it will be the chairs
   headache to track them down, better to have well listed.
- I don't belive this *policy* need to be discussed for a single
   document or on the mpls wg mailing list only.

Chair hat off
- I think this policy need to be discussed, but if it is it should
   probably be on IETF discuss list.

/Loa

On 2015-02-18 02:17, t.petch wrote:
> Rather a lot of authors in this one.
>
> Which, as I have commented on before, I do think a real issue of making
> it unclear just who should do what when action on the I-D is needed -
> like cutting back the number of authors to fit within the RFC Editor
> guidelines:-)
>
> Tom Petch
>
>
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>
>>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
>>   This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching
> Working Group of the IETF.
>>
>>          Title           : Application-aware Targeted LDP
>>          Authors         : Santosh Esale
>>                            Raveendra Torvi
>>                            Chris Bowers
>>                            Luay Jalil
>>                            Uma Chunduri
>>                            Zhenbin Li
>>                            Kamran Raza
>> Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-00.txt
>> Pages           : 17
>> Date            : 2015-02-16
>>
>> Abstract:
>>     Recent targeted LDP applications such as remote loop-free
> alternates
>>     (LFA) and BGP auto discovered pseudowire may automatically
> establish
>>     a tLDP session to any LSR in a network. The initiating LSR has
>>     information about the targeted applications to administratively
>>     control initiation of the session. However the responding LSR has
> no
>>     such information to control acceptance of this session. This
> document
>>     defines a mechanism to advertise and negotiate Targeted
> Applications
>>     Capability during LDP session initialization. As the responding LSR
>>     becomes aware of targeted applications, it may establish a limited
>>     number of tLDP sessions for certain applications. In addition, each
>>     targeted application is mapped to LDP Forwarding Equivalence Class
>>     (FEC) Elements to advertise only necessary LDP FEC-label bindings
>>     over the session.
>>
>>
>>
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp/
>>
>> There's also a htmlized version available at:
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-00
>>
>>
>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> submission
>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>
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>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
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 + BFD WG

Hi Loa,



> -----Original Message-----

> From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org <mpls-bounces@ietf.org>] On
Behalf Of Loa Andersson

> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 3:55 AM

> To: mpls@ietf.org; draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed@tools.ietf.org

> Subject: [mpls] Question on draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed

>

> Authors, Working Group,

>

> I started to review draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed, but got stuck on the

> problem statement.

>

> If I understand you correctly, but I admit that I may have misunderstood,

> you are saying that the scope of the document are uni- directional
explicit

> routed LSPs. A typical example would be MPLS-TE LSPs, right?



That's not incorrect :)



AFAIK, technically correct scope is all BFD session types that are
bootstrapped with LSP Ping, with uni-directional traffic engineered paths
on SPRING based networks being the primary use case.



>

> You also say that for such an LSPs the egress would use the shortest path
for

> its control message, while the ingress will send control messages in-band.

>

> Now in Asynchronous mode the BFD session will form a loop ingress -

> egress - ingress, where ingress to egress is on the the monitored LSP,
while

> egress to ingress is out-of-band, right?

>

> You say that since the egress to ingress control message will follow the

> shortest path, which might not be co-routed with the ingress to egress
LSP,

> missing responses can't be taken as an indication of that the uni-
directional

> LSP needs to be re-routed.

>

> While I agree with that statement, I don't see that if you give the
egress an

> explicit return/reverse path that is co-routed with the monitored LSP you

> are really in a better shape to draw any conclusions.

> Failure to receive egress to ingress control messages does not necessarily

> tell you anything about the state of the monitored LSP.



You are absolutely right. The egress-to-ingress BFD session not being
co-routed is a motivation for this document, but what the proposed
mechanism is providing is an ability to bootstrap egress-to-ingress BFD
session to take a specific path. Whether such egress-to-ingress sessions
are co-routed or otherwise is a choice left to users, and is outside the
scope of this document. With SPRING based network, user choosing the
co-routed egress-to-ingress path is doable (i.e., it is possible for an
element computing the forward stack to compute the reverse stack), but,
again, that's outside the scope of this document. I believe you have
pointed out this these aspects are slightly confusing/misleading and need
to be clarified in the document, and I agree with that.



Additionally, I believe the premise is that it's better to take down the
uni-directional path based on the failure of user specified
egress-to-ingress path instead of an arbitrary egress-to-ingress path. If
the egress-to-ingress path can always be guaranteed [automatically] to be
co-routed in all cases, then that may be superior. However, I do think what
this document is describing is a reasonable improvement over what we have
today.



Thanks!



-Nobo



>

> /Loa

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>

>

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> Senior MPLS Expert                          loa@pi.nu

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</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; From: mpls [</font><a href=3D"mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf=
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</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
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</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
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</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; Subject: [mpls] Question on
draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Ti=
mes New Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
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bri" size=3D"3">&gt; Authors, Working Group,</font></p><font color=3D"#0000=
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</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; </font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; I started to review draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed,
but got stuck on the</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New Ro=
man" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; problem statement.</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" f=
ace=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; </font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; If I understand you correctly, but I admit that I
may have misunderstood,</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New=
 Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; you are saying that the scope of the document are
uni- directional explicit</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times N=
ew Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; routed LSPs. A typical example would be MPLS-TE
LSPs, right?</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New Roman" siz=
e=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">=C2=A0</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New =
Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">That&#39;s not incorrect :)</font></p><font color=3D"#00000=
0" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">=C2=A0</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New =
Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">AFAIK, technically correct scope is all BFD session types
that are bootstrapped with LSP Ping, with uni-directional traffic engineere=
d
paths on SPRING based networks being the primary use case.</font></p><font =
color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">=C2=A0</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New =
Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; </font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; You also say that for such an LSPs the egress would
use the shortest path for</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times N=
ew Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; its control message, while the ingress will send
control messages in-band.</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times N=
ew Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; </font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; Now in Asynchronous mode the BFD session will form a
loop ingress -</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New Roman" s=
ize=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; egress - ingress, where ingress to egress is on the
the monitored LSP, while</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times Ne=
w Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; egress to ingress is out-of-band, right?</font></p><fo=
nt color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; </font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; You say that since the egress to ingress control
message will follow the</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New=
 Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; shortest path, which might not be co-routed with the
ingress to egress LSP,</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New =
Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; missing responses can&#39;t be taken as an indication =
of
that the uni- directional</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times N=
ew Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; LSP needs to be re-routed.</font></p><font color=3D"#0=
00000" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; </font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; While I agree with that statement, I don&#39;t see tha=
t
if you give the egress an</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times N=
ew Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; explicit return/reverse path that is co-routed with
the monitored LSP you</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; are really in a better shape to draw any
conclusions.</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New Roman" siz=
e=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; Failure to receive egress to ingress control
messages does not necessarily</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Tim=
es New Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; tell you anything about the state of the monitored
LSP.</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">=C2=A0</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New =
Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">You are absolutely right. The egress-to-ingress BFD
session not being co-routed is a motivation for this document, but what the
proposed mechanism is providing is an ability to bootstrap egress-to-ingres=
s
BFD session to take a specific path. Whether such egress-to-ingress session=
s
are co-routed or otherwise is a choice left to users, and is outside the sc=
ope
of this document. With SPRING based network, user choosing the co-routed
egress-to-ingress path is doable (i.e., it is possible for an element compu=
ting
the forward stack to compute the reverse stack), but, again, that&#39;s out=
side the
scope of this document. I believe you have pointed out this these aspects a=
re
slightly confusing/misleading and need to be clarified in the document, and=
 I
agree with that.</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
 size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">=C2=A0</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New =
Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">Additionally, I believe the premise is that it&#39;s better
to take down the uni-directional path based on the failure of user specifie=
d
egress-to-ingress path instead of an arbitrary egress-to-ingress path. If t=
he
egress-to-ingress path can always be guaranteed [automatically] to be co-ro=
uted
in all cases, then that may be superior. However, I do think what this docu=
ment
is describing is a reasonable improvement over what we have today.</font></=
p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">=C2=A0</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New =
Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">Thanks!</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New=
 Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">=C2=A0</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New =
Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">-Nobo</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">=C2=A0</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New =
Roman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; </font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D"3">

</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; /Loa</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times N=
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</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">&gt; --</font></p><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Times New=
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=3D"#000000" size=3D"3">&gt; Loa Andersson</font><span><font color=3D"#0000=
00" size=3D"3">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
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=A0 </font></span><font color=3D"#000000" size=3D"3">email: </font></font><=
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</font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font face=3D"Calibri"><font color=
=3D"#000000" size=3D"3">&gt; Senior MPLS Expert</font><span><font color=3D"=
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Greg and Nobo,



On 2015-02-19 10:52, Gregory Mirsky wrote:
> Hi Loa, Nobo, et. al,
>
> many thanks for very thorough review and great discussion. Nobo pointed
> that investigation of BFD in Segment Routing network, both with MPLS and
> IPv6 data plane, was the main motivator for this proposal.
>
> I agree that the document needs improvements in number of places and
> greatly appreciate your comments and suggestions. Hence the question,
> would “ingress”/”egress” be more intuitive than “near-end”/”far-end”?

Since we are talking explicitly routed LSPs "ingress/egress" is more
intuitive for me.

However, there is one question that I don't really grok.

If you have a bi-directional co-routed and you are not receiving the
egress to ingress control messages, you know that one direction is
broken and since you have the requirement that the bi-directional LSP
shall be "co-routed" you need to swap over to a stand-by or re-route,
for both directions.

If you have a uni-directional a co-route the control back from the
egress to the ingress, and you are not receiving the egress to ingress
control messages, you know that either the uni-directional LSP is broken
or that the control channel is. Do you have a way to tell which it is?

Do you really want to swap to a stand-by or re-route because the egress
to ingress control channel is broken, while the explicit routed LSP is
working just fine?

/Loa

>
>                  Regards,
>
>                                  Greg
>
> *From:*Nobo Akiya [mailto:nobo.akiya.dev@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2015 5:21 AM
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> *Subject:* RE: [mpls] Question on draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed
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> + BFD WG
>
> Hi Loa,
>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson
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>> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 3:55 AM
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>> To:  mpls@ietf.org <mailto:mpls@ietf.org>;
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>> Subject: [mpls] Question on draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed
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>>
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>> Authors, Working Group,
>
>>
>
>> I started to review draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed, but got stuck on the
>
>> problem statement.
>
>>
>
>> If I understand you correctly, but I admit that I may have misunderstood,
>
>> you are saying that the scope of the document are uni- directional explicit
>
>> routed LSPs. A typical example would be MPLS-TE LSPs, right?
>
> That's not incorrect :)
>
> AFAIK, technically correct scope is all BFD session types that are
> bootstrapped with LSP Ping, with uni-directional traffic engineered
> paths on SPRING based networks being the primary use case.
>
>>
>
>> You also say that for such an LSPs the egress would use the shortest path for
>
>> its control message, while the ingress will send control messages in-band.
>
>>
>
>> Now in Asynchronous mode the BFD session will form a loop ingress -
>
>> egress - ingress, where ingress to egress is on the the monitored LSP, while
>
>> egress to ingress is out-of-band, right?
>
>>
>
>> You say that since the egress to ingress control message will follow the
>
>> shortest path, which might not be co-routed with the ingress to egress LSP,
>
>> missing responses can't be taken as an indication of that the uni- directional
>
>> LSP needs to be re-routed.
>
>>
>
>> While I agree with that statement, I don't see that if you give the egress an
>
>> explicit return/reverse path that is co-routed with the monitored LSP you
>
>> are really in a better shape to draw any conclusions.
>
>> Failure to receive egress to ingress control messages does not necessarily
>
>> tell you anything about the state of the monitored LSP.
>
> You are absolutely right. The egress-to-ingress BFD session not being
> co-routed is a motivation for this document, but what the proposed
> mechanism is providing is an ability to bootstrap egress-to-ingress BFD
> session to take a specific path. Whether such egress-to-ingress sessions
> are co-routed or otherwise is a choice left to users, and is outside the
> scope of this document. With SPRING based network, user choosing the
> co-routed egress-to-ingress path is doable (i.e., it is possible for an
> element computing the forward stack to compute the reverse stack), but,
> again, that's outside the scope of this document. I believe you have
> pointed out this these aspects are slightly confusing/misleading and
> need to be clarified in the document, and I agree with that.
>
> Additionally, I believe the premise is that it's better to take down the
> uni-directional path based on the failure of user specified
> egress-to-ingress path instead of an arbitrary egress-to-ingress path.
> If the egress-to-ingress path can always be guaranteed [automatically]
> to be co-routed in all cases, then that may be superior. However, I do
> think what this document is describing is a reasonable improvement over
> what we have today.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Nobo
>
>>
>
>> /Loa
>
>> --
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Loa Andersson                        email:  loa@mail01.huawei.com <mailto:loa@mail01.huawei.com>
>
>> Senior MPLS Expertloa@pi.nu <mailto:loa@pi.nu>
>
>> Huawei Technologies (consultant)     phone: +46 739 81 21 64
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Greg,

On 2015-02-19 13:49, Gregory Mirsky wrote:
> Hi Loa,
> your scenario perfectly illustrates the dilemma operator would face when trying to provide n:m  protection for uni-directional transport. If only 1+1 protection required, then it is the egress node that would detect a defect and flip the switch. But if n:m (1:1 and 1:n are special cases) required we have to make certain assumptions. Obviously we always try to minimize them but as, for example, with use of SPME for Segment OAM in MPLS-TP, cannot eliminate completely. Yes, failure of egress-to-ingress OAM channel may happen while ingress-to-egress flow is fully operational even though both are co-routed.
>
> 	Regards,
> 		Greg

I understand that we are able to quite easily co-route the explicitly
route LSP, and the the egress to ingress control channel. Can you more
precisely describe the assumptions you make and what problem you solve?

/Loa
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:34 PM
> To: Gregory Mirsky; Nobo Akiya; mpls@ietf.org; draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed@tools.ietf.org
> Cc: rtg-bfd@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [mpls] Question on draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed
>
> Greg and Nobo,
>
>
>
> On 2015-02-19 10:52, Gregory Mirsky wrote:
>> Hi Loa, Nobo, et. al,
>>
>> many thanks for very thorough review and great discussion. Nobo
>> pointed that investigation of BFD in Segment Routing network, both
>> with MPLS and
>> IPv6 data plane, was the main motivator for this proposal.
>>
>> I agree that the document needs improvements in number of places and
>> greatly appreciate your comments and suggestions. Hence the question,
>> would “ingress”/”egress” be more intuitive than “near-end”/”far-end”?
>
> Since we are talking explicitly routed LSPs "ingress/egress" is more intuitive for me.
>
> However, there is one question that I don't really grok.
>
> If you have a bi-directional co-routed and you are not receiving the egress to ingress control messages, you know that one direction is broken and since you have the requirement that the bi-directional LSP shall be "co-routed" you need to swap over to a stand-by or re-route, for both directions.
>
> If you have a uni-directional a co-route the control back from the egress to the ingress, and you are not receiving the egress to ingress control messages, you know that either the uni-directional LSP is broken or that the control channel is. Do you have a way to tell which it is?
>
> Do you really want to swap to a stand-by or re-route because the egress to ingress control channel is broken, while the explicit routed LSP is working just fine?
>
> /Loa
>
>>
>>                   Regards,
>>
>>                                   Greg
>>
>> *From:*Nobo Akiya [mailto:nobo.akiya.dev@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2015 5:21 AM
>> *To:* Loa Andersson; mpls@ietf.org;
>> draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed@tools.ietf.org
>> *Cc:* rtg-bfd@ietf.org
>> *Subject:* RE: [mpls] Question on draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed
>>
>> + BFD WG
>>
>> Hi Loa,
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>> From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson
>>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 3:55 AM
>>
>>> To:  mpls@ietf.org <mailto:mpls@ietf.org>;
>> draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed@tools.ietf.org
>> <mailto:draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed@tools.ietf.org>
>>
>>> Subject: [mpls] Question on draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Authors, Working Group,
>>
>>>
>>
>>> I started to review draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed, but got stuck on
>>> the
>>
>>> problem statement.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> If I understand you correctly, but I admit that I may have
>>> misunderstood,
>>
>>> you are saying that the scope of the document are uni- directional
>>> explicit
>>
>>> routed LSPs. A typical example would be MPLS-TE LSPs, right?
>>
>> That's not incorrect :)
>>
>> AFAIK, technically correct scope is all BFD session types that are
>> bootstrapped with LSP Ping, with uni-directional traffic engineered
>> paths on SPRING based networks being the primary use case.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> You also say that for such an LSPs the egress would use the shortest
>>> path for
>>
>>> its control message, while the ingress will send control messages in-band.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Now in Asynchronous mode the BFD session will form a loop ingress -
>>
>>> egress - ingress, where ingress to egress is on the the monitored
>>> LSP, while
>>
>>> egress to ingress is out-of-band, right?
>>
>>>
>>
>>> You say that since the egress to ingress control message will follow
>>> the
>>
>>> shortest path, which might not be co-routed with the ingress to
>>> egress LSP,
>>
>>> missing responses can't be taken as an indication of that the uni-
>>> directional
>>
>>> LSP needs to be re-routed.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> While I agree with that statement, I don't see that if you give the
>>> egress an
>>
>>> explicit return/reverse path that is co-routed with the monitored LSP
>>> you
>>
>>> are really in a better shape to draw any conclusions.
>>
>>> Failure to receive egress to ingress control messages does not
>>> necessarily
>>
>>> tell you anything about the state of the monitored LSP.
>>
>> You are absolutely right. The egress-to-ingress BFD session not being
>> co-routed is a motivation for this document, but what the proposed
>> mechanism is providing is an ability to bootstrap egress-to-ingress
>> BFD session to take a specific path. Whether such egress-to-ingress
>> sessions are co-routed or otherwise is a choice left to users, and is
>> outside the scope of this document. With SPRING based network, user
>> choosing the co-routed egress-to-ingress path is doable (i.e., it is
>> possible for an element computing the forward stack to compute the
>> reverse stack), but, again, that's outside the scope of this document.
>> I believe you have pointed out this these aspects are slightly
>> confusing/misleading and need to be clarified in the document, and I agree with that.
>>
>> Additionally, I believe the premise is that it's better to take down
>> the uni-directional path based on the failure of user specified
>> egress-to-ingress path instead of an arbitrary egress-to-ingress path.
>> If the egress-to-ingress path can always be guaranteed [automatically]
>> to be co-routed in all cases, then that may be superior. However, I do
>> think what this document is describing is a reasonable improvement
>> over what we have today.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Nobo
>>
>>>
>>
>>> /Loa
>>
>>> --
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Loa Andersson                        email:  loa@mail01.huawei.com <mailto:loa@mail01.huawei.com>
>>
>>> Senior MPLS Expertloa@pi.nu <mailto:loa@pi.nu>
>>
>>> Huawei Technologies (consultant)     phone: +46 739 81 21 64
>>
>>>
>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>> mpls mailing list
>>
>>>   mpls@ietf.org <mailto:mpls@ietf.org>
>>
>>>   https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls
>>
>

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Senior MPLS Expert                          loa@pi.nu
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 This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Inter-Area P2MP Segmented LSPs
        Authors         : Yakov Rekhter
                          Eric C Rosen
                          Rahul Aggarwal
                          Thomas Morin
                          Irene Grosclaude
                          Nicolai Leymann
                          Samir Saad
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast-17.txt
	Pages           : 42
	Date            : 2015-02-20

Abstract:
   This document describes procedures for building inter-area point-to-
   multipoint (P2MP) segmented service LSPs by partitioning such LSPs
   into intra-area segments and using BGP as the inter-area routing and
   label distribution protocol. Within each IGP area the intra-area
   segments are either carried over intra-area P2MP LSPs, using P2MP LSP
   hierarchy, or instantiated using ingress replication.  The intra-area
   P2MP LSPs may be signaled using P2MP RSVP-TE or P2MP mLDP. If ingress
   replication is used within an IGP area, then (multipoint-to-point)
   LDP LSPs or (point-to-point) RSVP-TE LSPs may be used in the IGP
   area. The applications/services that use such inter-area service LSPs
   may be BGP Multicast VPN, VPLS multicast, or global table multicast
   over MPLS.




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Hi Ross,

I'm not aware of any IPR related to this draft either.

BR,

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________________________________
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Subject: IPR Poll for draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-oam-conf

Working Group,

The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-oam-conf have told us that =
the
draft is ready for working group last call (WGLC).

Before we do the WGLC we want to do an IPR poll on the document.

This mail starts that IPR poll.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-o=
am-conf?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

Currently there are no IPR disclosures that relate to this document.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The
document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been
received from each author and contributor.

If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any
IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thanks, Ross
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-pin=
g-mpls-tp-oam-conf have told us that the</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">draft is ready for working group last =
call (WGLC).
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Before we do the WGLC we want to do an=
 IPR poll on the document.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">This mail starts that IPR poll.</span>=
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Are you aware of any IPR that applies =
to draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-oam-conf?</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">If so, has this IPR been disclosed in =
compliance with IETF IPR rules</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 fo=
r more details).</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Currently there are no IPR disclosures=
 that relate to this document.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">If you are listed as a document author=
 or contributor please respond to</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">this email regardless of whether or no=
t you are aware of any relevant</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">IPR. *The response needs to be sent to=
 the MPLS wg mailing list.* The
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">document will not advance to the next =
stage until a response has been</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">received from each author and contribu=
tor.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">If you are on the MPLS WG email list b=
ut are not listed as an author or</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">contributor, then please explicitly re=
spond only if you are aware of any</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">IPR that has not yet been disclosed in=
 conformance with IETF rules.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Thanks, Ross</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">(as MPLS WG co-chair)</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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</div>
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Technical Summary

   This document updates RFC 4379

   This document fixes a gap in MPLS/IPv6, in RFC 4379 that defines 
   the MPLS LSP Ping/Traceroute mechanism, a Router Alert Option MUST 
   be set in the IP header of the MPLS Echo Request messages, and may 
   conditionally be set in the IP header of the MPLS Echo Reply messages.
   A generic "Router shall examine packet" Option Value is used for the
   IPv4 Router Alert Option (RAO). There is no corresponding generic Router Alert
   Option Value defined for IPv6. This document allocates this new generic IPv6 
   RAO Value. The RAO value can be used by the entire set of MPLS OAM 
   functions as needed, but the  initial motivation comes from using RFC 4379 
   with IPv6. 

   The document defines the RAO that will be used in the MPLS Echo Request 
   and MPLS Echo Reply messages in IPv6 environments.  Consequently, it
   updates RFC 4379.

Working Group Summary

  This document is generally accepted by the working group, there are several
  implementations of RFC 4379 for IPv6 going on or planned and this gap is 
  widely recognized.

Document Quality

   No expert reviews necessary!

   The RAO Value is necessary to correctly implement LSP Ping and Traceroute
   for IPv6 networks.
 
Personnel

  Document Shepherd: Loa ANdersson
  Responsible Area Director: Adrian Farrel


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The IESG has approved the following document:
- 'Inter-Area P2MP Segmented LSPs'
  (draft-ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast-17.txt) as Proposed Standard

This document is the product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working
Group.

The IESG contact persons are Alia Atlas and Adrian Farrel.

A URL of this Internet Draft is:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-seamless-mcast/




Technical Summary

   This document describes procedures for building inter-area point-to-
   multipoint (P2MP) segmented service LSPs by partitioning such LSPs
   into intra-area segments and using BGP as the inter-area routing and
   label distribution protocol. Within each IGP area the intra-area
   segments are either carried over intra-area P2MP LSPs, using P2MP LSP
   hierarchy, or instantiated using ingress replication.  The intra-area
   P2MP LSPs may be signaled using P2MP RSVP-TE or P2MP mLDP. If ingress
   replication is used within an IGP area, then (multipoint-to-point)
   LDP LSPs or (point-to-point) RSVP-TE LSPs may be used in the IGP
   area. The applications/services that use such inter-area service LSPs
   may be BGP Multicast VPN, VPLS multicast, or global table multicast
   over MPLS.

Working Group Summary

   The WG process has been straightforward. There is a general agreement in the
   working group that support for multicast service is needed and that there are 
   synergies if we can use the same method for multiple cases
   
   There have been no controversies around this draft and the support for this 
   document is good.

Document Quality

   We are currently aware of one implementation. 

   There has been no other reviews than the MPLS review team, the WGLC,
   and AD review. No expert reviews are necessary for this document.

Personnel

   Loa Andersson is the Document Shepherd.
   Adrian Farrel is the Responsible Area Director.


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Working Group,

The authors of draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping have told us that the draft
is ready to be polled to see if we have consensus to make it a working
group document.

Before we start the adoption poll we will do an IPR poll and an MPLS-RT
review.

This mail starts the IPR poll. A mail to start the MPLS-RT review will
soon go out to the reviewers, even if you are not one of the MPLS-RT
reviewers, it is a good time to review the document now.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

Currently there are one IPR disclosure (ID # 2476) that relate to this
document.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The
document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been
received from each author and contributor.

If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any
IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.


/Loa

(as MPLS WG co-chair)


-- 


Loa Andersson                        email: loa@mail01.huawei.com
Senior MPLS Expert                          loa@pi.nu
Huawei Technologies (consultant)     phone: +46 739 81 21 64


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Hi Loa,

I am not aware of any other IPR that applies to draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping=
.

- Ravi Torvi


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Open source vs standards, Virtual enterprise CPE, segment routing
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What's happening in the MPLS, SDN & NFV areas?
 
Three weeks left before the MPLS SDN World and the NFV & SDN Summit.
 
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To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, "draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping@tools.ietf.org" <draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping@tools.ietf.org>, "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" <mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org>, "<mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org>" <mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org>
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> Subject: [mpls] IPR Poll on draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping
>=20
>=20
> Working Group,
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> The authors of draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping have told us that the draft is
> ready to be polled to see if we have consensus to make it a working group
> document.
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> Before we start the adoption poll we will do an IPR poll and an MPLS-RT
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> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping?
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> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see=
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> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to t=
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h
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> /Loa
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Am listed as contributor.
Not aware of any applicable IPR other than the one in Loa's email below.


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> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 12:30 AM
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> Subject: [mpls] IPR Poll on draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping
>=20
>=20
> Working Group,
>=20
> The authors of draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping have told us that the draft is=
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> to be polled to see if we have consensus to make it a working group docum=
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>=20
> Before we start the adoption poll we will do an IPR poll and an MPLS-RT
> review.
>=20
> This mail starts the IPR poll. A mail to start the MPLS-RT review will so=
on go out
> to the reviewers, even if you are not one of the MPLS-RT reviewers, it is=
 a good
> time to review the document now.
>=20
> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping?
>=20
> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see=
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> 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
>=20
> Currently there are one IPR disclosure (ID # 2476) that relate to this do=
cument.
>=20
> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to t=
his
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e
> response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The document will=
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thor
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>=20
> /Loa
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> (as MPLS WG co-chair)
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>=20
> --
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>=20
> Loa Andersson                        email: loa@mail01.huawei.com
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WG,
I am not aware of any patent applications that apply to draft "draft-bonica=
-mpls-self-ping" other than the one described in https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/ipr/2476/ .

Luis Tomotaki (co-author)

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:30 AM
> > To: mpls@ietf.org<mailto:mpls@ietf.org>; draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping@to=
ols.ietf.org<mailto:draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping@tools.ietf.org>; mpls-
> > chairs@tools.ietf.org<mailto:chairs@tools.ietf.org>; <mpls-ads@tools.ie=
tf.org<mailto:mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org>>
> > Subject: IPR Poll on draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping
> >
> >
> > Working Group,
> >
> > The authors of draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping have told us that the
> > draft is ready to be polled to see if we have consensus to make it a
> > working group document.
> >
> > Before we start the adoption poll we will do an IPR poll and an
> > MPLS-RT review.
> >
> > This mail starts the IPR poll. A mail to start the MPLS-RT review
> > will soon go out to the reviewers, even if you are not one of the
> > MPLS-RT reviewers, it is a good time to review the document now.
> >
> > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping?
> >
> > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
> > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
> >
> > Currently there are one IPR disclosure (ID # 2476) that relate to
> > this document.
> >
> > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond
> > to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any
> > relevant IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing
> > list.* The document will not advance to the next stage until a
> > response has been received from each author and contributor.
> >
> > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author
> > or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware
> > of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rul=
es.
> >
> >
> > /Loa
> >
> > (as MPLS WG co-chair)
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Loa Andersson                        email: loa@mail01.huawei.com<mailt=
o:loa@mail01.huawei.com>
> > Senior MPLS Expert                          loa@pi.nu<mailto:loa@pi.nu>
> > Huawei Technologies (consultant)     phone: +46 739 81 21 64


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t;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; &gt; Before we start the adoptio=
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t; &gt; MPLS-RT review.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; &gt;<o:p></=
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l to start the MPLS-RT review <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; &gt;=
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</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; &gt;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; =
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ether or not you are aware of any <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; =
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icitly respond only if you are aware <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&g=
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&gt;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; &gt;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D=
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; email: <a href=3D"mailto:loa@mail01.huawei.com">loa@mail01.huawei=
.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; &gt; Senior MPLS Expert&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a=
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>&gt; &gt; Huawei Technologies (consultant)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; phone: =
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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        
        RFC 7453

        Title:      MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) Traffic 
                    Engineering (TE) Management Information Base (MIB) 
        Author:     V. Mahalingam, K. Sampath,
                    S. Aldrin, T. Nadeau
        Status:     Standards Track
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       February 2015
        Mailbox:    venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com, 
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        Pages:      62
        Characters: 117910
        Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:   None

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-mpls-tp-te-mib-11.txt

        URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7453

This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB) for 
use with network management protocols in the Internet community.  In 
particular, it describes additional managed objects and textual 
conventions for tunnels, identifiers, and Label Switching Routers to 
support Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) MIB modules for transport 
networks.

This document is a product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF.

This is now a Proposed Standard.

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Updates to LDP for IPv6
        Authors         : Rajiv Asati
                          Carlos Pignataro
                          Kamran Raza
                          Vishwas Manral
                          Rajiv Papneja
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-17.txt
	Pages           : 25
	Date            : 2015-02-25

Abstract:
   The Label Distribution Protocol (LDP) specification defines
   procedures to exchange label bindings over either IPv4, or IPv6 or
   both networks. This document corrects and clarifies the LDP behavior
   when IPv6 network is used (with or without IPv4). This document
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Loa,

As a co-author of the draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping, I do not know of any IPR=
 other than that described in https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2476/ .

Michael E Conn
Manager Network Planning
Office 972 729 6469

There are two ways to deal with a problem:
You can accept it and learn to live with it or
you can fix it and learn to live without it.

Which will you choose?

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:30 AM
> > To: mpls@ietf.org<mailto:mpls@ietf.org>; draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping@to=
ols.ietf.org<mailto:draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping@tools.ietf.org>; mpls-
> > chairs@tools.ietf.org<mailto:chairs@tools.ietf.org>; <mpls-ads@tools.ie=
tf.org<mailto:mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org>>
> > Subject: IPR Poll on draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping
> >
> >
> > Working Group,
> >
> > The authors of draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping have told us that the
> > draft is ready to be polled to see if we have consensus to make it a
> > working group document.
> >
> > Before we start the adoption poll we will do an IPR poll and an
> > MPLS-RT review.
> >
> > This mail starts the IPR poll. A mail to start the MPLS-RT review
> > will soon go out to the reviewers, even if you are not one of the
> > MPLS-RT reviewers, it is a good time to review the document now.
> >
> > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping?
> >
> > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
> > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
> >
> > Currently there are one IPR disclosure (ID # 2476) that relate to
> > this document.
> >
> > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond
> > to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any
> > relevant IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing
> > list.* The document will not advance to the next stage until a
> > response has been received from each author and contributor.
> >
> > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author
> > or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware
> > of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rul=
es.
> >
> >
> > /Loa
> >
> > (as MPLS WG co-chair)
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Loa Andersson                        email: loa@mail01.huawei.com<mailt=
o:loa@mail01.huawei.com>
> > Senior MPLS Expert                          loa@pi.nu<mailto:loa@pi.nu>
> > Huawei Technologies (consultant)     phone: +46 739 81 21 64

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an that described in <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2476/">htt=
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l><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Michael E Conn<o:p></o:p></p><p=
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<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>you can fix it and learn to live withou=
t it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal>Which will you choose?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; &gt; From: Loa Andersson [<a href=3D"mai=
lto:loa@pi.nu">mailto:loa@pi.nu</a>]<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt=
; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:30 AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMs=
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a href=3D"mailto:draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping@tools.ietf.org">draft-bonica-m=
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>&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"mailto:chairs@tools.ietf.org">chairs@tools.ietf.org</=
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class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; &gt;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; &gt; Th=
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</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; &gt; will soon go out to the reviewers, even =
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> I am not aware of any IPR.
>

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>
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:30 AM
> To: mpls@ietf.org; draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping@tools.ietf.org; mpls-
> chairs@tools.ietf.org; <mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org>
>
> Subject: IPR Poll on draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping
>
>  Working Group,
>
>
>
> The authors of draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping have told us that the draft
>
> is ready to be polled to see if we have consensus to make it a working
>
> group document.
>
>
>
> Before we start the adoption poll we will do an IPR poll and an MPLS-RT
>
> review.
>
>
>
> This mail starts the IPR poll. A mail to start the MPLS-RT review will
>
> soon go out to the reviewers, even if you are not one of the MPLS-RT
>
> reviewers, it is a good time to review the document now.
>
>
>
> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping?
>
>
>
> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
>
> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
>
>
>
> Currently there are one IPR disclosure (ID # 2476) that relate to this
>
> document.
>
>
>
> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
>
> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
>
> IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The
>
> document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been
>
> received from each author and contributor.
>
>
>
> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
>
> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any
>
> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
>
>
>
>
>
> /Loa
>
>
>
> (as MPLS WG co-chair)
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
> Loa Andersson                        email: loa at mail01.huawei.com
>
> Senior MPLS Expert                          loa at pi.nu
>
> Huawei Technologies (consultant)     phone: +46 739 81 21 64
>
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ot aware of any IPR.=C2=A0<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>=
Ina =C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(2=
04,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" l=
ink=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">-------------------------------------=
---------<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"">From: Loa Andersson [mailto:<a href=
=3D"mailto:loa@pi.nu" target=3D"_blank">loa@pi.nu</a>]<br>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:30 AM<br></span>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:mpls@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">mpls@ietf.org</a>; <=
a href=3D"mailto:draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping@tools.ietf.org" target=3D"_bla=
nk">
draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping@tools.ietf.org</a>; mpls-<a href=3D"mailto:chai=
rs@tools.ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">chairs@tools.ietf.org</a>; &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">mpls-ads@tools.ietf.o=
rg</a>&gt;</p><div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
Subject: IPR Poll on draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;=
color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><p></p><div><div class=3D"h=
5">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">Working Group,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">The authors of draft-bonica-mpls-self-ping hav=
e told us that the draft<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">is ready to be polled to see if we have consen=
sus to make it a working<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">group document.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">Before we start the adoption poll we will do a=
n IPR poll and an MPLS-RT<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">review.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">This mail starts the IPR poll. A mail to start=
 the MPLS-RT review will<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">soon go out to the reviewers, even if you are =
not one of the MPLS-RT<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">reviewers, it is a good time to review the doc=
ument now.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft=
-bonica-mpls-self-ping?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">If so, has this IPR been disclosed in complian=
ce with IETF IPR rules<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more d=
etails).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">Currently there are one IPR disclosure (ID # 2=
476) that relate to this<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">document.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">If you are listed as a document author or cont=
ributor please respond to<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">this email regardless of whether or not you ar=
e aware of any relevant<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPL=
S wg mailing list.* The<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">document will not advance to the next stage un=
til a response has been<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">received from each author and contributor.<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are n=
ot listed as an author or<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">contributor, then please explicitly respond on=
ly if you are aware of any<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conform=
ance with IETF rules.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">/Loa<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">(as MPLS WG co-chair)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">--<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">Loa Andersson=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 email: loa at <a href=3D"http://=
mail01.huawei.com" target=3D"_blank">mail01.huawei.com</a><u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">Senior MPLS Expert=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 loa at <a href=3D"http://p=
i.nu" target=3D"_blank">pi.nu</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><span class=3D"">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">Huawei Technologies (consultant)=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 phone: +46 739 81 21 64<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"></span></i></b><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</span></div>
</div>

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        Title           : MPLS-TP Operations, Administration, and Management (OAM) Identifiers Management Information Base (MIB)
        Authors         : Sam Aldrin
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   This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
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                          Loa Andersson
                          Manuel Paul
                          Satoshi Ueno
                          Kaoru Arai
                          Yoshinori Koike
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-tp-temporal-hitless-psm-06.txt
	Pages           : 16
	Date            : 2015-02-27

Abstract:
   The MPLS transport profile (MPLS-TP) is being standardized to enable
   carrier-grade packet transport and complement converged packet
   network deployments.  Among the most attractive features of MPLS-TP
   are OAM functions, which enable network operators or service
   providers to provide various maintenance characteristics, such as
   fault location, survivability, performance monitoring, and
   preliminary or in-service measurements.

   One of the most important mechanisms which is common for transport
   network operation is fault location.  A segment monitoring function
   of a transport path is effective in terms of extension of the
   maintenance work and indispensable particularly when the OAM function
   is effective only between end points.  However, the current approach
   defined for MPLS-TP for the segment monitoring (SPME) has some fatal
   drawbacks.  This document elaborates on the problem statement for the
   Sub-path Maintenance Elements (SPMEs) which provides monitoring of a
   portion of a set of transport paths (LSPs or MS-PWs).  Based on the
   problems, this document specifies new requirements to consider a new
   improved mechanism of hitless transport path segment monitoring.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-tp-temporal-hitless-psm/

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All,

We are starting to build the MPLS WG agenda for Dallas IETF92. The prelimin=
ary IETF92 agenda, is available at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/92/agenda.html

The MPLS WG sessions are for the moment scheduled on:
Tuesday, March 24, Afternoon Session I, 13:00-15:00
and
Friday, March 27, Afternoon Session II, 11:50-13:20

Please send *me* (reply to this e-mail and copy myself and the MPLS co-chai=
rs) your requests for a presentation slot. Please indicate: draft name, spe=
aker and desired duration (covering presentation + Q&As).

If presenting, your slides will be due on Sunday March 22, 2015. Please sen=
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Regards,
Tarek



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