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([173.36.7.30]) by XCH-ALN-020.cisco.com ([173.36.7.30]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Tue, 1 Mar 2016 17:29:32 -0600 From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" To: Gregory Mirsky Thread-Topic: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-lsp-ping Thread-Index: AQHRbVUTKbUtec8bN0aHIfTCoXQ9DZ88Ej2AgAmcGAA= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 23:29:32 +0000 Message-ID: References: <56CAD781.3070207@pi.nu> <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219E1EEC@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219E1EEC@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.82.224.80] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_35E723C7-E90D-4279-A59D-5B791985554D"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-lsp-ping@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-lsp-ping X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2016 23:29:37 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_35E723C7-E90D-4279-A59D-5B791985554D Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6C38EAEA-B71D-4B5D-B257-D47C52315E36" --Apple-Mail=_6C38EAEA-B71D-4B5D-B257-D47C52315E36 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thank you very much for your review! I agree with your comment. I will update our working copy addressing = this (both section 1.3 and the DSMAP references) Thanks! =E2=80=94 Carlos. > On Feb 24, 2016, at 3:44 PM, Gregory Mirsky = wrote: >=20 > Dear Authors, WG chairs, et. al, > I believe that the document thoroughly addresses set of very important = and real issues in MPLS OAM and does that thoroughly. I support its = publication. I have one comment: > section 1.3 references Downstream Mapping TLV defined in RFC 4379 as = source of information available to discover ECMP paths. But also = mentioned in the section RFC 6424 deprecated Downstream Mapping TLV in = favor of Downstream Detailed Mapping TLV. I think that reference to = DSMAP TLV is unnecessary in the document or should be clarified by = mentioning that the TLV is deprecated. Then references to DSMAP TLV = throughout the document, I've found 11 of these, should be removed. >=20 > Regards, > Greg > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org = ] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 1:40 AM > To: mpls@ietf.org ; = draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-lsp-ping@ietf.org = > Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: [mpls] working group last call on = draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-lsp-ping >=20 > Working Group, >=20 > This is to initiate a two week working group last call on = draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-lsp-ping. >=20 > Please send your comments to the mpls wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org = ). >=20 > There are three IPR disclosures against this document. >=20 > The document shepherd and working group chairs are frequently asked = about the working group discussions related to any IPR disclosures. >=20 > We like to remind the working group that discussion on the content and = validity of an IPR disclosure should not take place on the MPLS wg list = or any IETF mailing lists. >=20 > However we are looking for simple statements whether you think the = working group should continue progress the document, regardless of an = existing IPR disclosure. Please include this information in your = "support/do not support" when responding to working group adoption calls = and last calls. >=20 > All the authors and contributors (with one exception) have stated on = the working group mailing list that they are not aware of any other IPRs = that relates to this draft. >=20 > Note: One of the authors - Nobo - has not responded to the IPR poll, = we know that in his new role Nobo is an infrequent reader of IETF mails. > We have decided to go ahead with the wglc, while we continue to ping = him on the IPR poll. We have a pretty good idea off Nobo's response, but = should ther be any "surprises" this will be brought to the attention of = the working group. >=20 > This working group last call ends March 08, 2016, however the wglc = will not be closed until we have all the responses on the IPR poll. >=20 >=20 > /Loa > for the MPLS wg chairs > -- >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com = > Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu = > Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls = --Apple-Mail=_6C38EAEA-B71D-4B5D-B257-D47C52315E36 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Thank you very much for your review!

I agree with your comment. I will = update our working copy addressing this (both section 1.3 and the DSMAP = references)

Thanks!

=E2=80=94 Carlos.

On = Feb 24, 2016, at 3:44 PM, Gregory Mirsky <gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com> wrote:

Dear Authors, WG chairs, et. al,
I believe = that the document thoroughly addresses set of very important and real = issues in MPLS OAM and does that thoroughly. I support its publication. = I have one comment:
section 1.3 references Downstream Mapping TLV defined in RFC = 4379 as source of information available to discover ECMP paths. But also = mentioned in the section RFC 6424 deprecated Downstream Mapping TLV in = favor of Downstream Detailed Mapping TLV. I think that reference to = DSMAP TLV is unnecessary in the document or should be clarified by = mentioning that the TLV is deprecated. Then references to DSMAP TLV = throughout the document, I've found 11 of these, should be removed.
 
          &nb= sp;     Regards,
          &nb= sp;            = ;         Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf Of Loa Andersson
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 = 1:40 AM
To: mpls@ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-lsp-ping@ietf.org
Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [mpls] working group last call on = draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-lsp-ping
 
Working Group,
 
This is to initiate a two week working group last call on = draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-lsp-ping.
 
Please send your comments to the mpls = wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org).
 
There are three IPR disclosures against = this document.
 
The document shepherd and working group chairs are frequently = asked about the working group discussions related to any IPR = disclosures.
 
We like to remind the working group that discussion on the = content and validity of an IPR disclosure should not take place on the = MPLS wg list or any IETF mailing lists.
 
However we are looking for simple = statements whether you think the working group should continue progress = the document, regardless of an existing IPR disclosure. Please include = this information in your "support/do not support" when responding to = working group adoption calls and last calls.
 
All the = authors and contributors (with one exception) have stated on the working = group mailing list that they are not aware of any other IPRs that = relates to this draft.
 
Note: One of the authors - Nobo - has not responded to the = IPR poll, we know that in his new role Nobo is an infrequent reader of = IETF mails.
We have decided to go ahead with the wglc, while we continue = to ping him on the IPR poll. We have a pretty good idea off Nobo's = response, but should ther be any "surprises" this will be brought to the = attention of the working group.
 
This working group last call ends March = 08, 2016, however the wglc will not be closed until we have all the = responses on the IPR poll.
 
 
/Loa
for the MPLS wg chairs
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The text should now say: "All the authors and contributors have stated on the working group mailing list that they are not aware of any other IPRs than what has already been disclosed that relates to this draft." The wglc will be closed March 08, 2016. /Loa On 2016-02-22 17:40, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, > > This is to initiate a two week working group last call on > draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-lsp-ping. > > Please send your comments to the mpls wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). > > There are three IPR disclosures against this document. > > The document shepherd and working group chairs are frequently asked > about the working group discussions related to any IPR disclosures. > > We like to remind the working group that discussion on the content > and validity of an IPR disclosure should not take place on the MPLS wg > list or any IETF mailing lists. > > However we are looking for simple statements whether you think the > working group should continue progress the document, regardless of an > existing IPR disclosure. Please include this information in your > "support/do not support" when responding to working group adoption > calls and last calls. > > All the authors and contributors (with one exception) have stated on > the working group mailing list that they are not aware of any other > IPRs that relates to this draft. > > Note: One of the authors - Nobo - has not responded to the IPR poll, we > know that in his new role Nobo is an infrequent reader of IETF mails. > We have decided to go ahead with the wglc, while we continue to ping him > on the IPR poll. We have a pretty good idea off Nobo's response, but > should ther be any "surprises" this will be brought to the attention of > the working group. > > This working group last call ends March 08, 2016, however the wglc will > not be closed until we have all the responses on the IPR poll. > > > /Loa > for the MPLS wg chairs From nobody Wed Mar 2 15:24:48 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F661B34A4; Wed, 2 Mar 2016 15:24:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.15.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160302232446.22546.59229.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2016 15:24:46 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2016 23:24:46 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) Directed Return Path Authors : Greg Mirsky Jeff Tantsura Ilya Varlashkin Mach(Guoyi) Chen Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2016-03-02 Abstract: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) is expected to monitor bi- directional paths. When a BFD session monitors an explicit routed path there is a need to be able to direct egress BFD peer to use specific path for the reverse direction of the BFD session. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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[213.123.124.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g3sm41127601wjw.31.2016.03.03.06.43.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 03 Mar 2016 06:43:15 -0800 (PST) To: "Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB)" , "draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates@tools.ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" References: From: Stewart Bryant Message-ID: <56D84D82.9080709@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 14:43:14 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates-02.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2016 14:43:19 -0000 I was also selected as an MPLS Review team reviewer. The document is well written and should be adopted by the WG. As part of the WG process there needs to be independent confirmation that if put into an arbitrary state, the state machine unconditionally migrates to the correct state, and hence that the state machine is unconditionally correct. That way we can be sure that no further changes will be needed to address "all problematic changes@ - Stewart Stewart On 22/02/2016 11:41, Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) wrote: > Authors > > I have been selected as an MPLS Review team reviewer for > draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates-02.txt. > > In general, I think the draft is technically sound and it is useful to > provide clarification to sections of RFC7271 if it is the case that this > is actually causing confusion to implementers. However, I would encourage > the working group to think about how widely implemented and deployed > RFC7271 is before progressing this work, since spending working group time > on something that is not being widely implemented does not seem useful. > > Minor Comments/Nits > ‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹ > 4.1 > > . Initialization Behavior > > This section defines initialization behavior that is not described in > [RFC7271 ]. > > MB> It is a little unclear if this is adding a new INIT state to the state > machine that you can transit to from one or more other states, or if this > is just stating initial conditions before APS becomes operational. Please > can you clarify? > > 4.2 > > . State Transition Modification > > In addition to the initialization behavior described in Section 4.1 > > , > four cells of remote state transition table need to be changed to > make two end nodes converged after initialization. > > MB> s/four cells of remote state/ four cells of the remote state > MB> s/two end nodes converged / two end nodes converge > > > Best regards > > Matthew > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Thu Mar 3 18:38:30 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3761C1B2F16 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2016 18:38:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.906 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.906 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.006] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mzsCmJkmC22D for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2016 18:38:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A393C1B2F02 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2016 18:38:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.13] (unknown [49.149.217.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 48F871802BEB; Fri, 4 Mar 2016 03:38:20 +0100 (CET) To: Stewart Bryant , "Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB)" , "draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates@tools.ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" References: <56D84D82.9080709@gmail.com> From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <56D8F513.2030303@pi.nu> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 10:38:11 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56D84D82.9080709@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates-02.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2016 02:38:29 -0000 Authors, We have enough mpls-rt reviews in now. Could you please check if there is anything that you want to change in the draft, before starting the working group document adoption poll. /Loa On 2016-03-03 22:43, Stewart Bryant wrote: > I was also selected as an MPLS Review team reviewer. > > The document is well written and should be adopted by the WG. > > As part of the WG process there needs to be independent confirmation > that if put into an arbitrary state, the state machine unconditionally > migrates to the correct state, and hence that the state machine is > unconditionally correct. That way we can be sure that no further > changes will be needed to address "all problematic changes@ > > - Stewart > > Stewart > > On 22/02/2016 11:41, Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) wrote: >> Authors >> >> I have been selected as an MPLS Review team reviewer for >> draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates-02.txt. >> >> In general, I think the draft is technically sound and it is useful to >> provide clarification to sections of RFC7271 if it is the case that this >> is actually causing confusion to implementers. However, I would encourage >> the working group to think about how widely implemented and deployed >> RFC7271 is before progressing this work, since spending working group >> time >> on something that is not being widely implemented does not seem useful. >> >> Minor Comments/Nits >> ‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹ >> 4.1 >> >> >> . Initialization Behavior >> >> This section defines initialization behavior that is not described in >> [RFC7271 ]. >> >> MB> It is a little unclear if this is adding a new INIT state to the >> state >> machine that you can transit to from one or more other states, or if this >> is just stating initial conditions before APS becomes operational. Please >> can you clarify? >> >> 4.2 >> >> >> . State Transition Modification >> >> In addition to the initialization behavior described in Section 4.1 >> >> >> , >> four cells of remote state transition table need to be changed to >> make two end nodes converged after initialization. >> >> MB> s/four cells of remote state/ four cells of the remote state >> MB> s/two end nodes converged / two end nodes converge >> >> >> Best regards >> >> Matthew >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list >> mpls@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Thu Mar 3 20:49:01 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5431B3341; Thu, 3 Mar 2016 20:48:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.15.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160304044859.25799.64499.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2016 20:48:59 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates-03.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2016 04:48:59 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Updates to MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) Linear Protection in Automatic Protection Switching (APS) Mode Authors : Jeong-dong Ryoo Taesik Cheung Huub van Helvoort Italo Busi Guangjuan Weng Filename : draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates-03.txt Pages : 7 Date : 2016-03-03 Abstract: This document contains updates to MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) linear protection in Automatic Protection Switching (APS) mode defined in RFC 7271. The updates provide rules related to the initialization of the Protection State Coordination (PSC) Control Logic, in which the state machine resides, when operating in APS mode. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Dear WG Chairs and all,

 

My name is Jong Han Yang, and I am = with NIA (National Information Society Agency) and currently in charge = of operating Korean government-owned national backbone networks. =

 

I would like to confirm Jeong-dong’s previous remarks on the deployment of MPLS-TP linear = protection. We recently deployed 3.2 Terabit MPLS-TP/OTN systems in our = networks, and the systems are up and running with protection specified = in RFC 7271. We also plan to upgrade them when an implementation of the = updates is available.

 

Best regards,

 

Jong Han = Yang

 

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7bit Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates as an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2016 08:39:19 -0000 Working Group, This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps- updates as an MPLS working group document. Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that the document should not be adopted as a working group document. There are no IPR disclosures against this document. All the authors has stated on the on the mpls wg mailing list that they are not aware of any IPRs that relate to this document. Note: One of the issues that surfaced in the MPLS-RT review was that the implementation status was unclear. To check on this we did an early implementation poll. There have been responses to the mailing, to the mpls wg chairs and to my uni-directionally. The conclusion is that RFC 7271 (the specification that this document updates) is well implemented and we know of deployments; a rather large number of vendors says that they will implement this draft and operators has stated that it will be deployed once it is available. The working group adoption poll ends March 19, 2016. /Loa MPLS wg co-chair. -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Sat Mar 5 08:27:42 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FBFB1B3395; Sat, 5 Mar 2016 08:27:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ElAqV5TR4w21; Sat, 5 Mar 2016 08:27:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 383171B3396; Sat, 5 Mar 2016 08:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u25GRawt006069; Sat, 5 Mar 2016 16:27:36 GMT Received: from 950129200 ([79.141.128.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u25GRYd9006060 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 5 Mar 2016 16:27:35 GMT From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Loa Andersson'" , References: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 16:27:36 -0000 Message-ID: <05e401d176fb$ee26bcc0$ca743640$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQKt79g9rUg2jBKK/jxTCAZ01IZljp2SF/jA Content-Language: en-gb X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1679-8.0.0.1202-22174.000 X-TM-AS-Result: No--12.327-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--12.327-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: 1GZI+iG+Mte2uGZ0VrPO/SuRmcDMF+7vynX51d66ecuqvcIF1TcLYKKE RaDOI8KFElkddelp8WYuntQAyESQibXAj35CMHKuvnSVh24OCE5XLUapz6y7gS62hjZS0WoYl5g cQsiAks1chubhxwKgm6oSMdHwVfcFnPecQ/hKOMCZroPNdqiG8wuK1hIitSIHS+D/9ULgnEy7CG rJz6r8kMdnJ8ZhqciAnQ3vRvq5Kl/oKVMZp6ADvdjGRkLinPFIpfVcx39Kq+4kcJhDAxLsGRj+B QpbRgyo9C9CMIwENAJYs5LhMSIPqsaTKeuPWRxynVTWWiNp+v9BldmDYjwlpudTjSOFC/vqo8WM kQWv6iV95l0nVeyiuEIhOWyY9/MAC24oEZ6SpSkj80Za3RRg8ECDAGC3ToCnXo8Zd4UPVFAyjH4 0ARd+JSEfDH727Ui74JuxhNWpcyM= Archived-At: Cc: draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates as an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2016 16:27:41 -0000 What I said last time :-) > I appreciate the time the authors have put in to identify and resolve > issues with the original document. Always good to apply polish to WG > products, and so this should be run through the WG to update RFC 7271. Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson > Sent: 05 March 2016 08:39 > To: mpls@ietf.org > Cc: draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: [mpls] Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps- > updates as an mpls working group document > > Working Group, > > This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps- > updates as an MPLS working group document. > > Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working > group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical > motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that > the document should not be adopted as a working group document. > > There are no IPR disclosures against this document. > > All the authors has stated on the on the mpls wg mailing list that they > are not aware of any IPRs that relate to this document. > > Note: One of the issues that surfaced in the MPLS-RT review was that the > implementation status was unclear. To check on this we did an early > implementation poll. There have been responses to the mailing, to the > mpls wg chairs and to my uni-directionally. The conclusion is that > RFC 7271 (the specification that this document updates) is well > implemented and we know of deployments; a rather large number of > vendors says that they will implement this draft and operators has > stated that it will be deployed once it is available. > > The working group adoption poll ends March 19, 2016. > > /Loa > > MPLS wg co-chair. > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com > Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu > Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Sun Mar 6 19:00:13 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168391A6FFD; Sun, 6 Mar 2016 19:00:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.901 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 06:56:48 -0000 Yes, Support Jong Han, Yang ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 16:39:02 +0800 From: Loa Andersson To: "mpls@ietf.org" Cc: "draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates as an mpls working group document Message-ID: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Working Group, This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps- updates as an MPLS working group document. Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that the document should not be adopted as a working group document. There are no IPR disclosures against this document. All the authors has stated on the on the mpls wg mailing list that they are not aware of any IPRs that relate to this document. Note: One of the issues that surfaced in the MPLS-RT review was that the implementation status was unclear. To check on this we did an early implementation poll. There have been responses to the mailing, to the mpls wg chairs and to my uni-directionally. The conclusion is that RFC 7271 (the specification that this document updates) is well implemented and we know of deployments; a rather large number of vendors says that they will implement this draft and operators has stated that it will be deployed once it is available. The working group adoption poll ends March 19, 2016. /Loa MPLS wg co-chair. -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Mon Mar 7 00:28:27 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CA41B379C for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 00:28:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.322 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.322 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C6Wn-ZwZlf-s for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 00:28:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from TELEDG001RM001.telecomitalia.it (teledg001rm001.telecomitalia.it [217.169.121.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D05B01B378A for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 00:28:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from TELCAH003RM001.telecomitalia.local (10.19.10.106) by TELEDG001RM001.telecomitalia.it (10.19.3.111) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.266.1; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 09:28:20 +0100 Received: from TELMBB002RM001.telecomitalia.local ([169.254.3.194]) by TELCAH003RM001.telecomitalia.local ([10.19.10.106]) with mapi id 14.03.0266.001; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 09:28:20 +0100 From: D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo To: Loa Andersson Thread-Topic: [mpls] Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates as an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AQHRdrqNyXlacr3mqUSp89CeC9hibp9NqQKQ Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 08:28:19 +0000 Message-ID: <22257C41A415324A984CD03D63344E27E7205AC0@TELMBB002RM001.telecomitalia.local> References: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: it-IT X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.19.10.124] x-ti-disclaimer: Disclaimer1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] R: Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates as an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 08:28:26 -0000 I support. Best regards, Alessandro ------------------------------------------------------------------ Alessandro Gerardo D'Alessandro Transport Innovation Transport and IP Innovation Via Reiss Romoli, 274 - 10148 Torino phone: +39 011 228 5887 mobile: +39 335 766 9607 fax: +39 06 418 639 07 Tim Official: Facebook - Twitter www.tim.it -----Messaggio originale----- Da: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] Per conto di Loa Andersson Inviato: sabato 5 marzo 2016 09:39 A: mpls@ietf.org Cc: draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org Oggetto: [mpls] Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls-t= p-aps-updates as an mpls working group document Working Group, This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps- updates as an MPLS working group document. Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that the document should not be adopted as a working group document. There are no IPR disclosures against this document. All the authors has stated on the on the mpls wg mailing list that they are not aware of any IPRs that relate to this document. Note: One of the issues that surfaced in the MPLS-RT review was that the implementation status was unclear. To check on this we did an early implementation poll. There have been responses to the mailing, to the mpls wg chairs and to my uni-directionally. The conclusion is that RFC 7271 (the specification that this document updates) is well implemented and we know of deployments; a rather large number of vendors says that they will implement this draft and operators has stated that it will be deployed once it is available. The working group adoption poll ends March 19, 2016. /Loa MPLS wg co-chair. -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle per= sone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dall= a conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abb= iate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di dar= ne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione= , Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged = information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, pri= nting or use by anybody else is unauthorised. 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Mon, 07 Mar 2016 00:50:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.236.167 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 00:50:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> References: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 00:50:01 -0800 Message-ID: To: Loa Andersson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113d5edc0c893b052d718e06 Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates as an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 08:50:24 -0000 --001a113d5edc0c893b052d718e06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Loa, Yes, I support. Cheers, Andy On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, > > This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps- > updates as an MPLS working group document. > > Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working > group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical > motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that > the document should not be adopted as a working group document. > > There are no IPR disclosures against this document. > > All the authors has stated on the on the mpls wg mailing list that they > are not aware of any IPRs that relate to this document. > > Note: One of the issues that surfaced in the MPLS-RT review was that the > implementation status was unclear. To check on this we did an early > implementation poll. There have been responses to the mailing, to the > mpls wg chairs and to my uni-directionally. The conclusion is that > RFC 7271 (the specification that this document updates) is well > implemented and we know of deployments; a rather large number of > vendors says that they will implement this draft and operators has > stated that it will be deployed once it is available. > > The working group adoption poll ends March 19, 2016. > > /Loa > > MPLS wg co-chair. > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com > Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu > Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > --001a113d5edc0c893b052d718e06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Loa,

Yes, I support.

Cheers,
Andy

On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu<= /a>> wrote:
Working Group,

This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-
updates as an MPLS working group document.

Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working
group mailing list (mpls= @ietf.org). Please give a technical
motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that
the document should not be adopted as a working group document.

There are no IPR disclosures against this document.

All the authors has stated on the on the mpls wg mailing list that they
are not aware of any IPRs that relate to this document.

Note: One of the issues that surfaced in the MPLS-RT review was that the implementation status was unclear. To check on this we did an early
implementation poll. There have been responses to the mailing, to the
mpls wg chairs and to my uni-directionally. The conclusion is that
RFC 7271 (the specification that this document updates) is well
implemented and we know of deployments; a rather large number of
vendors says that they will implement this draft and operators has
stated that it will be deployed once it is available.

The working group adoption poll ends March 19, 2016.

/Loa

MPLS wg co-chair.
--


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Senior MPLS Expert=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 loa@pi.nu
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--001a113d5edc0c893b052d718e06-- From nobody Mon Mar 7 01:26:41 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355AA1B3821; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 01:26:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xgm4V4lIgZkk; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 01:26:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wm0-x232.google.com (mail-wm0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38A9D1B3D26; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 01:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wm0-x232.google.com with SMTP id l68so62578748wml.1; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 01:26:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aNVD80qV1Nt0O26HjT7WZ2pq89kX83+ebsT0B60OItc=; b=jkjeOqPwe/5mPkKq5bmaXrMxBaWGT9CRe4tXn4izSCUcpZbW2B/j+UstOoFm6EVHZS pl+lKS2s4MaHvb91xsJR0+5qQzV8x4FoC8JYRg1yw1o8ySwP0JSFQOqN30Et1yvnYJZg FxczacBAlGCCgs4UFnGIZYHSiklJ1ODxP4kCLBr090E0C5X8eSVnWna3rLR5Kgh/yW+5 WOhwD0TAXTtUbpSYg5nPKp67BW8riExccfwqaowppFcb94Lqemp1AdJApemfN0skm2dM oACXjq5UwgiMAALC1wKqlPwwO5awaci2bVbv27moWqTqZJjXY5xVtezYW5wmH42hwXp7 mHaQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from :reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aNVD80qV1Nt0O26HjT7WZ2pq89kX83+ebsT0B60OItc=; b=f8ZltTNNT/8P82/ymNaRaIOmOGBSWfbFitVR/BR8HVpQSDhHgumVgUKgCdePFEM+0z djHaIXCBo6JNaRHp56RWfS0XlGFQ6DWqDRjI4QQ4ff6w1SLBPrRIb/rh520uonZsw9Wn dk0L7LFwZzD9sojC+LCSjS5iXfk9FNSKLdWjDk1Mb2HJevW4EwqG5AurM1UcAwxOBRqA z8DtqTWAiJr3Eqzo32HTVTNH4mIhdShFlL4XkjpDf47hOoKlgkbBu46JYLDSJPF+ZmLw FwIGAWdDJ/Jv9X1YOTZqvBohBznHuQQ5aybic5HV9jL1lmMsi1fVg3oV5CK8vD/aMZvP xCig== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIJVtNzeyxBUAo6xcERbKgYdh0UQoXLrlPciE1hNQkhJFoKOwH/lZNiM0nvsWcjyg== X-Received: by 10.28.52.197 with SMTP id b188mr12570152wma.77.1457342797765; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 01:26:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from McAsterix.local ([92.109.37.136]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 192sm12781937wmw.0.2016.03.07.01.26.36 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Mar 2016 01:26:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <56DD4957.2000508@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 10:26:47 +0100 From: Huub van Helvoort User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" References: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates as an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: huubatwork@gmail.com List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 09:26:41 -0000 All, Yes, I support adoption of this draft to become WG draft. Cheers, Huub. ------------ On 05-03-16 09:39, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, > > This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps- > updates as an MPLS working group document. > > Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working > group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical > motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that > the document should not be adopted as a working group document. > > There are no IPR disclosures against this document. > > All the authors has stated on the on the mpls wg mailing list that they > are not aware of any IPRs that relate to this document. > > Note: One of the issues that surfaced in the MPLS-RT review was that the > implementation status was unclear. To check on this we did an early > implementation poll. There have been responses to the mailing, to the > mpls wg chairs and to my uni-directionally. The conclusion is that > RFC 7271 (the specification that this document updates) is well > implemented and we know of deployments; a rather large number of > vendors says that they will implement this draft and operators has > stated that it will be deployed once it is available. > > The working group adoption poll ends March 19, 2016. > > /Loa > > MPLS wg co-chair. -- ***************************************************************** 请记ä½ï¼Œä½ æ˜¯ç‹¬ä¸€æ— äºŒçš„，就åƒå…¶ä»–æ¯ä¸€ä¸ªäººä¸€æ · From nobody Mon Mar 7 02:02:39 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CB21B3DD1 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 02:02:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.202 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.202 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OdsnhdYHkD8w for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 02:02:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgwkm03.jp.fujitsu.com (mgwkm03.jp.fujitsu.com [202.219.69.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93E011B3DD0 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 02:02:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from kw-mxauth.gw.nic.fujitsu.com (unknown [192.168.231.132]) by mgwkm03.jp.fujitsu.com with smtp id 613a_dd1f_e1227f61_a031_4d47_9eca_fa543bac7785; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 19:02:28 +0900 Received: from dm.kawasaki.flab.fujitsu.co.jp (dm.kawasaki.flab.fujitsu.co.jp [10.25.192.105]) by kw-mxauth.gw.nic.fujitsu.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE8CAC02C3 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 19:02:27 +0900 (JST) X-SecurityPolicyCheck: OK by SHieldMailChecker v2.3.2 X-SHieldMailCheckerPolicyVersion: FJ-ISEC-20140924-1 X-SHieldMailCheckerMailID: cc301bf1f7dd4eb48b27f355becedc1d To: mpls@ietf.org References: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> From: Yuji Tochio Message-ID: <56DD51B8.5030602@jp.fujitsu.com> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 19:02:32 +0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TM-AS-MML: disable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates as an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 10:02:38 -0000 Support Regards, Yuji On 2016/03/05 17:39, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, > > This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps- > updates as an MPLS working group document. > > Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working > group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical > motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that > the document should not be adopted as a working group document. > > There are no IPR disclosures against this document. > > All the authors has stated on the on the mpls wg mailing list that they > are not aware of any IPRs that relate to this document. > > Note: One of the issues that surfaced in the MPLS-RT review was that the > implementation status was unclear. To check on this we did an early > implementation poll. There have been responses to the mailing, to the > mpls wg chairs and to my uni-directionally. The conclusion is that > RFC 7271 (the specification that this document updates) is well > implemented and we know of deployments; a rather large number of > vendors says that they will implement this draft and operators has > stated that it will be deployed once it is available. > > The working group adoption poll ends March 19, 2016. > > /Loa > > MPLS wg co-chair. 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Mon, 07 Mar 2016 09:08:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML504-MBS.china.huawei.com ([10.125.30.107]) by lhreml705-cah.china.huawei.com ([10.201.5.168]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 09:08:46 +0000 From: Italo Busi To: Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates as an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AQHRdrqHn/k0PnNEEEyoYoUECiJHJp9NtEyQ Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 09:08:45 +0000 Message-ID: <91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B1560A6C1@lhreml504-mbs> References: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.200.144.134] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown, refid=x_failed, ip=unknown, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32, mode=multiengine X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A090205.56DD5987.00A3, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 18fef4d69e04a6f564f834d305000fd3 Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates as an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 10:36:21 -0000 WWVzLCBzdXBwb3J0IChhcyBjby1hdXRob3IpDQoNCkl0YWxvDQoNCi0tLS0tT3JpZ2luYWwgTWVz c2FnZS0tLS0tDQpGcm9tOiBMb2EgQW5kZXJzc29uIFttYWlsdG86bG9hQHBpLm51XSANClNlbnQ6 IHNhYmF0byA1IG1hcnpvIDIwMTYgMDk6MzkNClRvOiBtcGxzQGlldGYub3JnDQpDYzogbXBscy1j aGFpcnNAaWV0Zi5vcmc7IGRyYWZ0LXJ5b28tbXBscy10cC1hcHMtdXBkYXRlc0BpZXRmLm9yZw0K U3ViamVjdDogUG9sbCB0byBzZWUgaWYgd2UgaGF2ZSBjb25zZW5zdXMgdG8gYWRvcHQgZHJhZnQt cnlvby1tcGxzLXRwLWFwcy11cGRhdGVzIGFzIGFuIG1wbHMgd29ya2luZyBncm91cCBkb2N1bWVu dA0KDQpXb3JraW5nIEdyb3VwLA0KDQpUaGlzIGlzIHRvIHN0YXJ0IGEgdHdvIHdlZWsgcG9sbCBv biBhZG9wdGluZyBkcmFmdC1yeW9vLW1wbHMtdHAtYXBzLSB1cGRhdGVzIGFzIGFuIE1QTFMgd29y a2luZyBncm91cCBkb2N1bWVudC4NCg0KUGxlYXNlIHNlbmQgeW91ciBjb21tZW50cyAoc3VwcG9y dC9ub3Qgc3VwcG9ydCkgdG8gdGhlIG1wbHMgd29ya2luZyBncm91cCBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QgKG1w bHNAaWV0Zi5vcmcpLiBQbGVhc2UgZ2l2ZSBhIHRlY2huaWNhbCBtb3RpdmF0aW9uIGZvciB5b3Vy IHN1cHBvcnQvbm90IHN1cHBvcnQsIGVzcGVjaWFsbHkgaWYgeW91IHRoaW5rIHRoYXQgdGhlIGRv Y3VtZW50IHNob3VsZCBub3QgYmUgYWRvcHRlZCBhcyBhIHdvcmtpbmcgZ3JvdXAgZG9jdW1lbnQu DQoNClRoZXJlIGFyZSBubyBJUFIgZGlzY2xvc3VyZXMgYWdhaW5zdCB0aGlzIGRvY3VtZW50Lg0K DQpBbGwgdGhlIGF1dGhvcnMgaGFzIHN0YXRlZCBvbiB0aGUgb24gdGhlIG1wbHMgd2cgbWFpbGlu ZyBsaXN0IHRoYXQgdGhleSBhcmUgbm90IGF3YXJlIG9mIGFueSBJUFJzIHRoYXQgcmVsYXRlIHRv IHRoaXMgZG9jdW1lbnQuDQoNCk5vdGU6IE9uZSBvZiB0aGUgaXNzdWVzIHRoYXQgc3VyZmFjZWQg aW4gdGhlIE1QTFMtUlQgcmV2aWV3IHdhcyB0aGF0IHRoZSBpbXBsZW1lbnRhdGlvbiBzdGF0dXMg d2FzIHVuY2xlYXIuIFRvIGNoZWNrIG9uIHRoaXMgd2UgZGlkIGFuIGVhcmx5IGltcGxlbWVudGF0 aW9uIHBvbGwuIFRoZXJlIGhhdmUgYmVlbiByZXNwb25zZXMgdG8gdGhlIG1haWxpbmcsIHRvIHRo ZSBtcGxzIHdnIGNoYWlycyBhbmQgdG8gbXkgdW5pLWRpcmVjdGlvbmFsbHkuIFRoZSBjb25jbHVz aW9uIGlzIHRoYXQgUkZDIDcyNzEgKHRoZSBzcGVjaWZpY2F0aW9uIHRoYXQgdGhpcyBkb2N1bWVu dCB1cGRhdGVzKSBpcyB3ZWxsIGltcGxlbWVudGVkIGFuZCB3ZSBrbm93IG9mIGRlcGxveW1lbnRz OyBhIHJhdGhlciBsYXJnZSBudW1iZXIgb2YgdmVuZG9ycyBzYXlzIHRoYXQgdGhleSB3aWxsIGlt cGxlbWVudCB0aGlzIGRyYWZ0IGFuZCBvcGVyYXRvcnMgaGFzIHN0YXRlZCB0aGF0IGl0IHdpbGwg YmUgZGVwbG95ZWQgb25jZSBpdCBpcyBhdmFpbGFibGUuDQoNClRoZSB3b3JraW5nIGdyb3VwIGFk b3B0aW9uIHBvbGwgZW5kcyBNYXJjaCAxOSwgMjAxNi4NCg0KL0xvYQ0KDQpNUExTIHdnIGNvLWNo YWlyLg0KLS0gDQoNCg0KTG9hIEFuZGVyc3NvbiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIGVtYWls OiBsb2FAbWFpbDAxLmh1YXdlaS5jb20NClNlbmlvciBNUExTIEV4cGVydCAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgbG9hQHBpLm51DQpIdWF3ZWkgVGVjaG5vbG9naWVzIChjb25zdWx0YW50KSAg ICAgcGhvbmU6ICs0NiA3MzkgODEgMjEgNjQNCg== From nobody Mon Mar 7 06:51:54 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C341B4200 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 06:51:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.55 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=unavailable Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OcioEsSLoQWP for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 06:51:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from csmtp01.wmail.naver.com (csmtp01.wmail.naver.com [125.209.216.88]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 401EC1B41DD for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 06:51:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23848 invoked by uid 100); 7 Mar 2016 14:45:06 -0000 Received: from 39.118.124.181 (HELO [192.168.25.45]) (shs4139@modonet.kr@39.118.124.181) by csmtp01.wmail.naver.com with SMTP;7 Mar 2016 14:45:06 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.8.151023 Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 23:45:01 +0900 From: SeunghyunShim_MODO To: Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [mpls] Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates as an mpls working group document References: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="EUC-KR" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Naver-Sender-Locale: envfrom=shs4139@modonet.kr; locale=ko_kr Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates as an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 14:51:53 -0000 Yes, I support. This work is useful to fix the issues related to initialization of PSC in APS mode. BR SH Shim On 2016. 3. 5. =BF=C0=C8=C4 5:39, "mpls on behalf of Loa Andersson" wrote: >Working Group, > >This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps- >updates as an MPLS working group document. > >Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working >group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical >motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that >the document should not be adopted as a working group document. > >There are no IPR disclosures against this document. > >All the authors has stated on the on the mpls wg mailing list that they >are not aware of any IPRs that relate to this document. > >Note: One of the issues that surfaced in the MPLS-RT review was that the >implementation status was unclear. To check on this we did an early >implementation poll. There have been responses to the mailing, to the >mpls wg chairs and to my uni-directionally. The conclusion is that >RFC 7271 (the specification that this document updates) is well >implemented and we know of deployments; a rather large number of >vendors says that they will implement this draft and operators has >stated that it will be deployed once it is available. > >The working group adoption poll ends March 19, 2016. > >/Loa > >MPLS wg co-chair. >--=20 > > >Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com >Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu >Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > >_______________________________________________ >mpls mailing list >mpls@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > > From nobody Mon Mar 7 07:00:17 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85B61B401E; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 07:00:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.693 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.693 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0shH6UJWEEsi; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 07:00:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp (TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp [210.143.35.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C21061B4204; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 07:00:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgate3.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.197]) by tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id u27F06ok024740; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 00:00:06 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailsv4.nec.co.jp (imss62.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.157]) by mailgate3.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id u27F06p08865; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 00:00:06 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail01b.kamome.nec.co.jp (mail01b.kamome.nec.co.jp [10.25.43.2]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id u27F05KX027086; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 00:00:05 +0900 (JST) Received: from bpxc99gp.gisp.nec.co.jp ([10.38.151.141] [10.38.151.141]) by mail03.kamome.nec.co.jp with ESMTP id BT-MMP-6069794; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 23:59:42 +0900 Received: from BPXM16GP.gisp.nec.co.jp ([10.38.151.208]) by BPXC13GP.gisp.nec.co.jp ([10.38.151.141]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 23:59:41 +0900 From: Akira Sakurai To: Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [mpls] Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates as an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AQHRdrqF0W3ZfLdFEUa68ZGlRZkkoJ9OFduA Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 14:59:39 +0000 Message-ID: <2303F18444F57448A9C105D09C9257613DC5E428@BPXM16GP.gisp.nec.co.jp> References: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> Accept-Language: ja-JP, en-US Content-Language: ja-JP X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.38.125.82] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates as an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 15:00:17 -0000 I support. BR, Akira > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 5:39 PM > To: mpls@ietf.org > Cc: draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: [mpls] Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls= -tp-aps-updates as an mpls > working group document >=20 > Working Group, >=20 > This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps- upda= tes as an MPLS working group > document. >=20 > Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working group= mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). > Please give a technical motivation for your support/not support, especial= ly if you think that the > document should not be adopted as a working group document. >=20 > There are no IPR disclosures against this document. >=20 > All the authors has stated on the on the mpls wg mailing list that they a= re not aware of any IPRs that > relate to this document. >=20 > Note: One of the issues that surfaced in the MPLS-RT review was that the = implementation status was > unclear. To check on this we did an early implementation poll. There have= been responses to the mailing, > to the mpls wg chairs and to my uni-directionally. The conclusion is that= RFC 7271 (the specification > that this document updates) is well implemented and we know of deployment= s; a rather large number of > vendors says that they will implement this draft and operators has stated= that it will be deployed > once it is available. >=20 > The working group adoption poll ends March 19, 2016. >=20 > /Loa >=20 > MPLS wg co-chair. > -- >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com > Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu > Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Mon Mar 7 08:08:38 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3911B1B4370 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 08:08:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.603 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.603 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VcTkZdBzw19Z for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 08:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu (mailer1.neclab.eu [195.37.70.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B863D1B4351 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 08:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3553E10C64B for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 17:08:33 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Amavisd on Debian GNU/Linux (netlab.nec.de) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlas-a.office.hd [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1CKCm1_v8h_F for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 17:08:33 +0100 (CET) X-ENC: Last-Hop-TLS-encrypted X-ENC: Last-Hop-TLS-encrypted Received: from ENCELADUS.office.hd (enceladus.office.hd [192.168.24.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BBE210C646 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 17:08:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from PALLENE.office.hd ([169.254.1.191]) by ENCELADUS.office.hd ([192.168.24.52]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 17:08:10 +0100 From: Rolf Winter To: "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [mpls] Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates as an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AQHRdrqMPN0Oc0PhskueKLu11AnMCJ9OKV0w Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 16:08:09 +0000 Message-ID: <791AD3077F94194BB2BDD13565B6295DA9D349E7@PALLENE.office.hd> References: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US, de-DE Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.7.0.203] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates as an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 16:08:37 -0000 Support NEC Europe Ltd | Registered Office: Athene, Odyssey Business Park, West End= Road, London, HA4 6QE, GB | Registered in England 2832014 > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson > Sent: Samstag, 5. M=E4rz 2016 09:39 > To: mpls@ietf.org > Cc: draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: [mpls] Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo- > mpls-tp-aps-updates as an mpls working group document >=20 > Working Group, >=20 > This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps- > updates as an MPLS working group document. >=20 > Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working > group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical motivation > for your support/not support, especially if you think that the document > should not be adopted as a working group document. >=20 > There are no IPR disclosures against this document. >=20 > All the authors has stated on the on the mpls wg mailing list that they > are not aware of any IPRs that relate to this document. >=20 > Note: One of the issues that surfaced in the MPLS-RT review was that > the implementation status was unclear. To check on this we did an early > implementation poll. There have been responses to the mailing, to the > mpls wg chairs and to my uni-directionally. The conclusion is that RFC > 7271 (the specification that this document updates) is well implemented > and we know of deployments; a rather large number of vendors says that > they will implement this draft and operators has stated that it will be > deployed once it is available. >=20 > The working group adoption poll ends March 19, 2016. >=20 > /Loa >=20 > MPLS wg co-chair. > -- >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com > Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu > Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Mon Mar 7 12:02:47 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfc.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfc.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfc.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4BCA1CDA88; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 12:02:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.521 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfc.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.41]) by localhost (ietfc.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Avhq0jVhkPC8; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 12:02:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from alln-iport-3.cisco.com (alln-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.142.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfc.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2F2C1CDA7C; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 12:02:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=5142; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1457380964; x=1458590564; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=W1FpkKgNCETjTERo1D6/oY+u/MkwFdB2exitsCZy/vo=; b=QeOYM99+AWG+HQcjX/3wC8OVfIfBAOZBFo5w5OpMW8QfZP221ziWXduY 4/g24FCfgLHDHZwttE+HlNoUXY9VhGXp3oEJxDIqLekhyiQz5sORluIJA LUKP9KRAj+dIHavNsqi0rC4bFg0+8dXOV6iVcrtiJmJfit0uyM70U+7YJ Y=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0AFAgCT3d1W/4ENJK1cgm5MUm0GuCeCE?= =?us-ascii?q?wENgWkhhW6BMDgUAQEBAQEBAWQcC4REBHkSAYEAJwQOiCkOvkwBAQEBAQEBAwE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQEBAQESBIYXiSSEDQWNMIl6AYEihECICoFjhESIU45UAR4BAUKDZGoBi?= =?us-ascii?q?D4BfQEBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.22,553,1449532800"; d="scan'208,217";a="245925867" Received: from alln-core-9.cisco.com ([173.36.13.129]) by alln-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 07 Mar 2016 20:02:43 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-005.cisco.com (xch-rcd-005.cisco.com [173.37.102.15]) by alln-core-9.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u27K2hVp013218 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 7 Mar 2016 20:02:43 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) by XCH-RCD-005.cisco.com (173.37.102.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 14:00:51 -0600 Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 14:00:52 -0600 From: "Tarek Saad (tsaad)" To: "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Building agenda for MPLS WG sessions - Buenos Aires IETF95 Thread-Index: AQHReKwNCfXcTj+WAE6NMlNuKmwQbg== Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 20:00:51 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.7.151005 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [161.44.213.172] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D303451C8663Ftsaadciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] Building agenda for MPLS WG sessions - Buenos Aires IETF95 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 20:02:46 -0000 --_000_D303451C8663Ftsaadciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, We are starting to build the MPLS WG agenda for Buenos Aires IETF95. The pr= eliminary agenda, is available at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/95/agenda.html The MPLS WG session is tentatively scheduled for: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 (ART), 10:00-12:30 Wednesday Morning session I There is also a joint session for MPLS, TEAS and PCE WGs for topics of comm= on interest (e.g. YANG models) that is scheduled for Tuesday, April 5, 2016 (ART), 17:30-19:00 Tuesday Afternoon session III Please send (reply to this e-mail and copy myself and the MPLS chairs) your= requests for a presentation slot and iIndicate: draft name, speaker and de= sired duration (covering presentation + Q&As). If presenting, your slides will be due by Friday, April 1st, 2016. Please s= end slides to the addresses above. Regards, Tarek and MPLS chairs --_000_D303451C8663Ftsaadciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,

We are starting to build the MPLS WG= agenda for Buenos Aires IETF95. The preliminary agenda, is ava= ilable at:

The MPLS WG session is tentatively schedu= led for:
Wednesday, April 6, 2016 (ART), = ;10:00-12:30 Wednesday Morning session= I

There is also a joint session for MPLS, TEAS and PCE WGs for topics of comm= on interest (e.g. YANG models) that is scheduled for
Tuesday, April 5, 2016 (ART), 17:30-19:00 Tuesday Afternoon session III

Please send (reply to this e-= mail and copy myself and the MPLS chairs) your requests for a presentation = slot and iIndicate: draft name, speaker and desired duration (covering presentation + Q&am= p;As).
If presenting, your slides will be due by=  Friday, April 1st, 2016. Pleas= e send slides to the addresses above.

Regards,
Tarek and MPLS chairs


 --_000_D303451C8663Ftsaadciscocom_-- From nobody Tue Mar 8 08:48:09 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F5212D820; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:48:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m5uMI3lbGc9U; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:47:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1bon0714.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:fc10::1:714]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A369D12D82B; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:47:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from BN3PR0501MB1377.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.160.117.11) by DM2PR0501MB811.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.242.115.141) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.427.16; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:32:27 +0000 Received: from BN3PR0501MB1377.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.160.117.11]) by BN3PR0501MB1377.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.160.117.11]) with mapi id 15.01.0415.024; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:32:26 +0000 From: Chandrasekar Ramachandran To: "AISSAOUI, Mustapha (Mustapha)" , "Loa Andersson" Thread-Topic: MPLS-RT review of draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr Thread-Index: AQHRDMPhsONZcO/ZDU6JSnAr5/i5wJ55MxXAgC7BdQCAAj56AIAB1u4AgAwwBlCAGFak8IAbhGgQgGRIFpA= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:32:26 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5628D430.4070602@pi.nu> <4A79394211F1AF4EB57D998426C9340DD479A17D@US70UWXCHMBA01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> <56514290.60200@pi.nu> <95453A37E413464E93B5ABC0F8164C4D14C9BB4D@eusaamb101.ericsson.se> <4A79394211F1AF4EB57D998426C9340DD47C1317@US70UWXCHMBA01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> <4A79394211F1AF4EB57D998426C9340DD47F8527@US70UWXCHMBA01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> In-Reply-To: <4A79394211F1AF4EB57D998426C9340DD47F8527@US70UWXCHMBA01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: nokia.com; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;nokia.com; dmarc=none action=none header.from=juniper.net; x-originating-ip: [116.197.184.11] x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 344d403a-5169-4bef-3edb-08d3476f3c1e x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; DM2PR0501MB811; 5:HxpR7yijEdNbM2cLBOyBcldNkP2tUrR8bI74JE7ie9URq4ks3WhTj2Yicchn7ucIgr7xh10WoQxS1sKdKKi7XBZwlB/KSkCtL5MDB/kn1Pi9sMqEd7g75DB4kjqQG5GcUVe8oD8q/3ZlXF58MnKzRA==; 24:OC/hF7ecHIb3jzpv7hqsYBUjxchU5xaR0jCFPcjjKo/ECshuxckFX43W4779tFlfCA8dykmERV+a06+G6BLJ1koAdsvkgod9jvFWNBAU+Cw= x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:DM2PR0501MB811; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:(138986009662008); x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(2401047)(8121501046)(5005006)(3002001)(10201501046); SRVR:DM2PR0501MB811; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:DM2PR0501MB811; x-forefront-prvs: 08756AC3C8 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(164054003)(377454003)(50944005)(13464003)(37854004)(87936001)(99286002)(107886002)(40100003)(5002640100001)(77096005)(3846002)(6116002)(102836003)(586003)(189998001)(1220700001)(1096002)(4001430100002)(106116001)(5001770100001)(3280700002)(4326007)(15975445007)(3660700001)(122556002)(19580405001)(2950100001)(5003600100002)(93886004)(5008740100001)(92566002)(86362001)(33656002)(230783001)(10400500002)(2900100001)(74316001)(81166005)(2906002)(19580395003)(66066001)(54356999)(50986999)(76176999)(76576001)(5004730100002)(42262002)(579004); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:DM2PR0501MB811; H:BN3PR0501MB1377.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 08 Mar 2016 16:32:26.3678 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM2PR0501MB811 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr@ietf.org" , Vishnu Pavan Beeram Subject: Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 16:48:07 -0000 Hi Mustapha, Apologies for the delay. I will be prompt for subsequent mails on this thre= ad. In my previous mail, I categorized your concerns into two. (A) The need for introducing refresh-interval independent behavior into RSV= P-TE (B) Why some kind of local implementation based timers will not be sufficie= nt to support long refresh intervals Your mail sent in January seems to indicate you are either not convinced on= the need for introducing refresh-interval independent behavior, or you are= not convinced that the extensions proposed in this draft (or the ones prop= osed in [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec]) actually make RSVP-TE FRR re= fresh-interval independent. Here is my summary response to your points. I have also responded to your c= omments separately inline. - The goal of the draft is not to reduce the number of triggered messages b= etween PLR and MP when the protected LSP is being locally repaired. The dra= ft addresses a specific gap to make RSVP-TE refresh-interval independent as= documented in [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec]. The key point is that= if RSVP-TE routers are not constrained by short refresh timeouts, then the= existing RFC 2961 mechanisms, plus some minor additional mechanisms as rec= ommended in [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec] should be sufficient to h= andle large LSP scale in all cases (except FRR that [draft-chandra-mpls-ri-= rsvp-frr] addresses). It should be noted that while reducing the number of = triggered backup LSP messages would be additional performance improvement, = the goal of RI-RSVP is more generic and also encompasses make-before-break.= Hence, the scope of this draft is not limited reducing triggered messages = as specified in draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte. - It should be noted that [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec] does make a= specific recommendation that would address the limitation you have pointed= out with Message-ID-ACK mechanism. The problem you have brought up is rela= ted to the lack of flow control between the RSVP-TE neighbors and Section 2= .3 of [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec] does address this limitation. I= f a router sends some messages that are unacknowledged, then the router can= use that as an indication to reduce message rate to that neighbor. In fact= , RFC 2961 message-ID-ACK mechanism is the key tool in achieving flow contr= ol between RSVP-TE neighbors. Hence, the mechanism proposed in this draft i= f considered along with [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec] does make RSV= P-TE refresh interval independent. Do you have specific cases in mind that = are not covered by these drafts? - The use of implementation specific timers for scaled networks have been p= roblematic in production networks because these timers are ad-hoc and do no= t provide predictability to the behavior when the deployed scale increase o= ver time. Moreover, your point assumes the network uses short refresh inter= val so that lack of reliable PathTear does not result in unacceptable level= of stale state build up on the routers. In fact, the only two new aspects = introduced in this draft leverage PathTear messages (with some minor extens= ion) to reliably remove state from downstream router(s). Could you specific= ally point out the mechanism(s) in the draft that is/are complex? Please refer inline for more detailed and specific responses. Thanks, Chandra. > -----Original Message----- > From: AISSAOUI, Mustapha (Mustapha) [mailto:mustapha.aissaoui@nokia.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 10:00 AM > To: Chandrasekar Ramachandran ; Sriganesh Kini > ; Loa Andersson ; Lucy yong > > Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp- > frr@ietf.org; Guijuan Wang 3 ; Lizhong Jin > > Subject: RE: MPLS-RT review of draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr >=20 > Hi Chandra, > Sorry for the late reply. See inline for some follow-up. >=20 > Regards, > Mustapha. >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chandrasekar Ramachandran [mailto:csekar@juniper.net] > > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:41 AM > > To: Chandrasekar Ramachandran; Aissaoui, Mustapha (Mustapha); Sriganesh > Kini; > > Loa Andersson; Lucy yong > > Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp- > frr@ietf.org; > > Guijuan Wang 3; Lizhong Jin > > Subject: RE: MPLS-RT review of draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr > > > > Mustapha, > > Did my response address your concerns? If I have understood you correct= ly, > the > > concerns fall in two categories and I have tried to address these conce= rns. > > (A) The need for introducing refresh-interval independent behavior into= RSVP- > TE > > (B) Why some kind of local implementation based timers will not be suff= icient > to > > support long refresh intervals > > > > Do you have any specific comment on my responses? Specifically, do you = still > > think the responses did not address (A), or (B) or both? > > > > Regards, > > Chandra. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Chandrasekar > > > Ramachandran > > > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 12:58 AM > > > To: Aissaoui, Mustapha (Mustapha) > > > ; > > > Sriganesh Kini ; Loa Andersson > > > ; Lucy yong > > > Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp- > > > frr@ietf.org; Guijuan Wang 3 ; Lizhong Jin > > > > > > Subject: Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr > > > > > > Mustapha, > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Aissaoui, Mustapha (Mustapha) > > > > [mailto:mustapha.aissaoui@alcatel- > > > > lucent.com] > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 8:48 AM > > > > To: Sriganesh Kini ; Loa Andersson > > > > ; Lucy yong > > > > Cc: Lizhong Jin ; Guijuan Wang 3 > > > > ; > > > > draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr@ietf.org; > > > > mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Aissaoui, Mustapha (Mustapha) > > > > ; mpls@ietf.org > > > > Subject: RE: MPLS-RT review of draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr > > > > > > > > Dear authors, > > > > I read this draft and I believe the intent is to provide a tighter > > > > control plane synchronization of the PLR and MP roles on a per RSVP > > > > session basis such that a LSR will know if it is a MP for a given > > > > RSVP session which requested protection. This is done such that the > > > > decision to retain or delete the state by the LSR detecting the > > > > failure of the link to the previous hop (or the failure of the > > > > previous hop itself) is made with the prior knowledge that the LSR = is a MP > or > > not on a per RSVP session basis. > > > > > > [Chandra] The primary motivation of the draft is to enable LSRs to > > > support FRR when the LSP scale on the LSR is of the order of hundreds > > > of thousands. The analysis of the bottlenecks as a consequence of LSP > > > scale, that can cause disruption of the LSR has already been > > > documented in RFC 5439. As analyzed in RFC 5439, while there is a > > > correlation between the percentage increase in refresh time and the > > > improvement in LSR performance, there is a degree of functionality > > > that is lost owing to the soft-state nature of the protocol. TE- > > > SCALE-REC > > > (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-00) > > > outlines the motivation for refresh independent RSVP (RI-RSVP) for al= l > > > types of LSPs (packet or non-packet), and makes recommendations to > > > enable RSVP implementations eliminate the reliance on short refresh > > > time. This draft addresses the refresh-interval dependent behavior of > > > RFC 4090 in order to support RI-RSVP, as facility backup FRR is a > > > widely deployed feature in production networ ks. >=20 > MA> It seems to me the main issue with bypass protection is to deal with = the > generation (PLR) and processing (MP) of a large number of *triggered* Pat= h > messages for the individual protected LSPs at the time the PLR activates = the > bypass LSP. >=20 > I do not see anything new in this draft to address the bottleneck of the = state > refresh mechanism itself. In fact, the draft suggests that after the bypa= ss LSP is > activated, the state refresh continues with summary refreshes which is th= e > solution already existent as per RFC 2961. Based on that, it is misleadin= g to call > this a Refresh-Independent RSVP FRR and this draft is not changing the fa= ct that > a PLR can generate and the MP may have to process a Srefresh message with > potentially a large number of message IDs once the bypass is activated. [Chandra] The need to generate and process a large number of message IDs wi= ll not be a problem as long as the refresh interval is long. If the concern= is that transmitting and processing a large number of message IDs would ov= erwhelm the routers, then that is an orthogonal problem for which Section 2= .3 of [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec] proposes to solve. Again, [draf= t-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec] does indeed rely on RFC 2961 Message-Id-AC= K extension to accomplish flow control. Even if an implementation supports = extensions to reduce the messages between PLR and MP during local repair, w= e still require long refresh interval in order to relieve the burden of the= routers from having to refresh unaffected LSP states and the make-before-b= reak LSP states that occur subsequent to local repair. Once the refresh interval could be set to an arbitrarily large value, it ma= kes RSVP-TE "refresh interval independent". Is the use of "refresh independ= ent" instead of a longer phrase "refresh-interval independent" a matter of = concern here? > What this mechanism is providing is a bulk notification of bypass activat= ion from > the PLR to the MP. This can speed up the creation in the control plane of= the > new remote neighbor (PLR) at the MP and associate the existing PSB/RSBs o= f the > protected LSPs with this new neighbor. The savings in the creation of the= new > remote neighbor is due to not relying on the receipt from the PLR and the > processing of a triggered refresh message for each protected LSP. Note he= re > there are no issue with the data plane and packets from all LSPs will be > forwarded properly at the MP since the ILM for the protected LSP is the s= ame > whether the packet is received from the primary interface or from the byp= ass > LSP interface. [Chandra] Yes, precisely. The data plane can continue to forward traffic bu= t the control plane imposes an artificial restriction that the LSP states s= hould be refreshed within a short refresh timeout. The goal is to remove th= is restriction and align with the goal of [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-= rec]. > Based on the above, I am having trouble reconciling the limited benefits = and the > complexity of the proposed mechanism. > I am not opposed for this part of the draft to move forward as an optiona= l > mechanism but I propose that it gets merged with draft-mtaillon-mpls-summ= ary- > frr-rsvpte and that the reference to "Refresh-Independent RSVP FRR" be > removed. Also, the objective of the mechanism to more clearly explained a= s a > bulk notification mechanism when bypass is activated. [Chandra] The goals of draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte and draft-cha= ndra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr are different. While draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary-frr-= rsvpte could be used by RSVP-TE implementation using short refresh interval= to reduce message rate between PLR and MP during local repair, draft-chand= ra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr could be used by RSVP-TE implementation to set arbitrar= ily long refresh interval but avoid unacceptable buildup of stale states ac= ross FRR local repairs. That's why the only two extensions introduced in dr= aft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr involve sending PathTear messages to ensure ex= plicit cleanup of LSP states rather than relying on timeout (which would be= long with long refresh interval). Implementation that sets arbitrarily lon= g refresh interval could also use draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte to= reduce message rate during local repair. > > > > However, the procedures presented in this document are fairly > > > > complex and go at odds with the original intent of making state > > > > synchronization based on a soft-state mechanism. > > > > > > [Chandra] The tradeoffs between using short or long refresh intervals > > > has been well understood. Short refresh intervals aid fast > > > synchronization of states along the path of the LSP, but is > > > problematic because of the control message traffic that a router has > > > to handle at high LSP scale. Routers not only must synchronize new > > > states as promptly as possible, but also must maintain the rate of > > > periodic Srefresh messages to a level sufficient to refresh all > > > existing states without being timed out. When the number of LSPs that > routers > > carry approach half a million, there will be two problems with the cont= rol > message > > rate. > > > (1) As analyzed in RFC 5439, even with RFC 2961 refresh reduction the > > > size of Srefresh message may become very large, and the processing > > > required may cause disruption of the LSR. > > > (2) Apart from the problem of RSVP message processing overhead, there > > > is also the problem of RSVP-TE becoming a bottleneck preventing the > > > router to scale other protocols or services. >=20 > MA> This draft does not solve the issue of large Srefresh message. After = the bulk > triggering of the bypass, Srefresh message will still be large because > implementations will need to make efficient use of the message by sending= as > many Message IDs as possible. [Chandra] I think this is a problem that is orthogonal to remove the relian= ce on short refresh interval. As mentioned before, one should also take int= o account the recommendations in [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec] in o= rder to support LSP scales much higher than what routers run or support tod= ay. The point you have raised here has been addressed in Section 2.3 of [dr= aft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec]. =20 > > > > In fact, what I fail to find is a compelling argument or data from > > > > the field which shows the issue is not resolved via much simpler > > > > methods which are used in production networks today. I describe thi= s > > > > in the detailed comments below. > > > > > > [Chandra] Some of the mechanisms already deployed in multi-vendor > > > production networks involve configuring implementation specific timer= s or > > delays on LSRs. > > > Multiple vendors support various timers or delays on Ingress and Tran= sit > LSRs. > > > However, in practice the values configured for these timers or delays > > > are very scale specific, and the values that work at one LSP scale > > > usually do not work at higher LSP scale. In practice, the "scale" tha= t > > > impacts the behavior at specific timer or delay value is not only the > > > number of LSPs carried on the router, but also the number of other > > > protocol states that reside on the router. It should be noted that th= e > > > reliance on such implementation specific timers or delays has been a > > > major contributor of operational complexity in running RSVP-TE FRR. > > > Any solution based on such timers or delays while being operationally > > > simple at one scale ceases to be so at higher scale. It has been > > > practically found (with existing implementations from multiple > > > vendors) tha t it is operationally hard to find out the new better > > > value as a running production network grows over time. In short, the = use of > such > > timers or delays has been found to involve guess work that seldom remai= n > simple > > in the long run. >=20 >=20 > MA> The timer is for a different issue than the main objective of the dra= ft. Let us > discuss it in the points below >=20 > > > > Regards, > > > > Mustapha. > > > > --------------------- > > > > 1. Section 3.1 - Problem Description " > > > > - If the protected LSP on C times out before D receives signaling > > > > for the backup LSP, then D would receive PathTear from C prior to > > > > receiving signaling for the backup LSP, thus resulting in deleting > > > > the LSP state. This would be possible at scale even with default > > > > refresh time. > > > > " > > > > MA> Since each LSR in the path of a RSVP session which requested > > > > MA> protection > > > > has to assume it can be a MP without prior knowledge, a simpler > > > > method is to reset the refresh timeout for each session as soon as > > > > the link to the previous hop failed. In fact, a user configurable M= P > > > > timeout upon failure, independent of the refresh timeout, can be > > > > provided to tune it to the desired value to give enough time to the > > > > Path message to be received via the bypass LSP. > > > > > > [Chandra] The option of resetting the refresh timeout may not be > > > viable if long refresh interval (of the order of tens of minutes) is > > > applied on the LSPs. That leaves the other option of providing a "wai= t > > > timer" (independent of refresh time) that is configurable on the MP. > However, it is > > fairly clear that the "wait timer" > > > that the operator should configure on MP will be problematic for two > reasons. > > > The operator should carefully analyze the performance impact of an > > > existing timer/delay value if and when (a) the LSP scale on the same > > > router increases, and (2) the LSP scale increases on other routers > > > around it (that may potentially become upstream PLRs)! >=20 > MA> The use of a refresh-timeout independent timer has been shown to work= in > production networks. Most of the time, the value is conservative enough t= o > cover a large scale network. [Chandra] Relying on implementation specific timers does not provide predic= tability of behavior as the deployed network scale increases. There are cas= es in deployed networks where the use of such timers have increased the com= plexity of network operations (a) when network scale increases with the sam= e software image, and (b) when network scale increase is also accompanied b= y software upgrades. The general point is that increasing refresh interval = to arbitrarily long values without any accompanying mechanism to introducin= g predictable behavior in the protocol may increase operational complexity.= I have provided detailed discussion on this in previous mails. > > > > 2. Section 3.1 - Problem Description: > > > > " > > > > - If upon the link failure C is to keep state until its timeout, > > > > then with long refresh interval this may result in a large amount o= f > > > > stale state on C. Alternatively, if upon the link failure C is to > > > > delete the state and send PathTear to D, this would result in > > > > deleting the state on D, thus deleting the LSP. D needs a reliable > > > > mechanism to determine whether it is MP or not to overcome this > > > > problem. > > > > " > > > > MA> What is exactly the issue with state timeout being retained > > > > MA> until the > > > > refresh timeout? You refer to this as "stale" state but in fact it > > > > is desirable to keep the state until node D created the backup PSB. > > > > Also, remember that head-end node will perform global revertive MBB > > > > and may tear down the LSP before the state timeout. > > > > > > [Chandra] As described in the first response in this mail, the > > > motivation driving the draft is to eliminate RSVP-TE's reliance of > > > short refresh intervals. If router C were to retain the LSP state > > > until time out, without any additional procedures that provide an > > > explicit indication to router C on when the LSP state is no longer > > > required, then router C would retain the LSP state potentially for > > > hours if the refresh interval is long. So, router C will not only > > > store the state of the LSP but also periodically send the Path messag= e > > > (in Srefresh) downstream - thereby unnecessarily consuming resources = that > > could potentially be utilized for other LSPs. > > > It should also be noted that the transit router cannot assume that > > > Ingress LSR will be able to complete global repair within a particula= r > > > time frame. The transit LSR procedures should be able to handle cases > > > when global repair does not complete for some valid reason for an ext= ended > > period of time. >=20 > MA> Clearly, you are not taking away the reliance on refresh messages. An= y ad- > hoc mechanism which is not reliable such as a PathTear may still keep the= state > until it times out. Furthermore, relying exclusively on Message ID ACk as > proposed in draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec in a scaled network is no= t good. > Data from deployment networks I am familiar with has shown that the > retransmission of messages which are not acknowledged when the control > plane churn is happening is causing much more churn. Our advice for our > customers was to disable the requirement to receive a Message ID Ack. [Chandra] I disagree with both the points above. - The extensions introduced in the draft only involve leveraging PathTear m= echanism in two slightly modified ways. If PathTear messages are reliably s= ent by RSVP routers (i.e. implement RFC 2961 for tear down messages also an= d also implement flow control described in draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-= rec), then the operator could set arbitrarily long refresh intervals. If th= e concern is the use of "refresh independent" instead of "refresh-interval = independent", then I can add clarification to the draft. - The cause of churn in RSVP-TE deployments running at high scale in terms = of LSPs is the lack of flow control in RSVP-TE implementations. It is possi= ble to implement flow control if implementations can leverage Message-id-AC= Ks suitably as recommended in [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec]. > > > > 3. Section 3.1 - Problem Statement: > > > > " > > > > - If head-end A attempts to tear down LSP after step 1 but before > > > > step 2 of the above sequence, then B may receive the tear down > > > > message before step 2 and delete the LSP state from its state > > > > database. If B deletes its state without informing D, with long > > > > refresh interval this could cause (large) buildup of stale state on > > > > D. > > > > " > > > > MA> I am not sure I understand the issue here. If B acting as a PLR > > > > MA> receives a > > > > PathTear from A, all it needs to do is to check that the primary > > > > path neighbor (C in this case) is in down or in cleanup state and > > > > send the PathTear over the bypass before deleting its own local sta= te From nobody Tue Mar 8 10:08:43 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E1312D94A; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 10:08:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id msBJ_BNga2sc; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 10:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1bon0776.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:fc10::1:776]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74AEE12D949; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 10:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from DM2PR05MB573.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.159.16) by DM2PR05MB576.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.159.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.427.16; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 18:08:17 +0000 Received: from DM2PR05MB573.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.159.16]) by DM2PR05MB573.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.159.16]) with mapi id 15.01.0415.024; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 18:08:17 +0000 From: Ross Callon To: Gregory Mirsky , Jeff Tantsura , Ilya Varlashkin , Mach Chen , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: IPR Poll for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed Thread-Index: AQHReWV9Rlhl6Ry67kCUqsHITJAR9g== Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 18:08:17 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: ericsson.com; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;ericsson.com; dmarc=none action=none header.from=juniper.net; x-originating-ip: [66.129.241.10] x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: c9363645-94ad-473a-649a-08d3477c9fc1 x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; DM2PR05MB576; 5:uI+2t4+Q3AuBx3eGvRlA9Zhrk/R/r3X4p2UprdOwaZ3z/AQOm4WTc0v+OkxvZ7orMgyTjRzE8aj2j3vh3D1k+71rn1i3tEPpY919YT6thu8fqSZUm4GrU/3k4lhu05EG2VBnlVZY6MVeBTVqHTbaRQ==; 24:BTlP3JY5gn1B6NN7KjLE0Kr9tb3rqNUZv3uh2hYefhSLjZKWMBFb/3RnqWHi1WmPD9TMgjYjF9GVMZHKCDux11KO9r6Q0MFvHeF40bKhG4I= x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:DM2PR05MB576; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(2401047)(5005006)(8121501046)(3002001)(10201501046); SRVR:DM2PR05MB576; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:DM2PR05MB576; x-forefront-prvs: 08756AC3C8 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(164054003)(2906002)(5003600100002)(106116001)(99286002)(66066001)(122556002)(19580395003)(3280700002)(3660700001)(74316001)(40100003)(92566002)(50986999)(54356999)(5002640100001)(5004730100002)(189998001)(4326007)(2501003)(3846002)(790700001)(86362001)(1220700001)(1096002)(2900100001)(586003)(19625215002)(18717965001)(33656002)(15975445007)(230783001)(77096005)(6116002)(19300405004)(102836003)(11100500001)(5008740100001)(5001770100001)(229853001)(16236675004)(76576001)(87936001)(10400500002)(81166005); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:DM2PR05MB576; H:DM2PR05MB573.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_DM2PR05MB57342D6B675B6C217B40E12A5B20DM2PR05MB573namprd_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 08 Mar 2016 18:08:17.0202 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM2PR05MB576 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 18:08:42 -0000 --_000_DM2PR05MB57342D6B675B6C217B40E12A5B20DM2PR05MB573namprd_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Working Group, The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed have told us that the draft is ready for working group last call (WGLC). Before we do the WGLC we want to do an IPR poll on the document. This mail starts that IPR poll. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). Currently there is one IPR disclosure on draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed (which was the pre-working group version of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed): https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2625/ If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. Thanks, Ross (as MPLS WG co-chair) --_000_DM2PR05MB57342D6B675B6C217B40E12A5B20DM2PR05MB573namprd_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Working Group,

 

The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-dire= cted have told us that the

draft is ready for working group last c= all (WGLC).

 

Before we do the WGLC we want to do an = IPR poll on the document.

 

This mail starts that IPR poll.

 

Are you aware of any IPR that applies t= o draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed?

 

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in c= ompliance with IETF IPR rules

(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for= more details).

 

Currently there is one IPR disclosure o= n draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed

(which was the pre-working group versio= n of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed):

https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2625/<= o:p>

 

If you are listed as a document author = or contributor please respond to

this email regardless of whether or not= you are aware of any relevant

IPR. *The response needs to be sent to = the MPLS wg mailing list.* The

document will not advance to the next s= tage until a response has been

received from each author and contribut= or.

 

If you are on the MPLS WG email list bu= t are not listed as an author or

contributor, then please explicitly res= pond only if you are aware of any

IPR that has not yet been disclosed in = conformance with IETF rules.

 

Thanks, Ross

(as MPLS WG co-chair)=

 

--_000_DM2PR05MB57342D6B675B6C217B40E12A5B20DM2PR05MB573namprd_-- From nobody Tue Mar 8 10:42:48 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235B412D9A2; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 10:42:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jTJGD_3VNvg2; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 10:42:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from usplmg21.ericsson.net (usplmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFAFA12D9A1; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 10:42:44 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c6180641-f799c6d000007d66-10-56df1d06775e Received: from EUSAAHC003.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.81]) by usplmg21.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id B1.8E.32102.60D1FD65; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 19:42:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from EUSAAMB103.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.120]) by EUSAAHC003.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.81]) with mapi id 14.03.0248.002; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 13:42:43 -0500 From: Gregory Mirsky To: Ross Callon , Jeff Tantsura , Ilya Varlashkin , Mach Chen , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: IPR Poll for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed Thread-Index: AQHReWV9Rlhl6Ry67kCUqsHITJAR9p9P39YA Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 18:42:41 +0000 Message-ID: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A05D7A@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.10] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A05D7Aeusaamb103erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrFIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPoC6b7P0wgytbpSzaN3UxW1xYK2yx 7vIpNotbS1eyWvxdcYXFgdWj5chbVo8lS34yeVxvusrusei2eQBLFJdNSmpOZllqkb5dAldG +9/5rAUvkyoOb2lkamA8GNHFyMkhIWAisWndHRYIW0ziwr31bF2MXBxCAkcYJebcaYFyljFK TL/0gxGkik3ASOLFxh52kISIwB5Gid1b5oMlmAUMJSZO3M8MYgsLmEnMnP2MCcQWETCXmLro CSOEbSSx589SNhCbRUBF4sm3NrA4r4CvxIlDM8HiQgJREve2rQA7iVMgWmLh3f1gNYxA530/ tYYJYpe4xK0n85kgzhaQWLLnPDOELSrx8vE/VghbSWLS0nNANgdQfb7Ewsm+EKsEJU7OfMIy gVF0FpJJsxCqZiGpgijRkViw+xMbhK0tsWzha2YY+8yBx0zI4gsY2VcxcpQWF+TkphsZbmIE xuAxCTbHHYx7ez0PMQpwMCrx8H5gvxcmxJpYVlyZe4hRgoNZSYSXSeZ+mBBvSmJlVWpRfnxR aU5q8SFGaQ4WJXHebx8vhwkJpCeWpGanphakFsFkmTg4pRoY5yVp/bA9E9567vSxr70ek/Ka M9uZ38hOV395U2D6i2U+SXEPJq4LMzq3Ly31mbVqsYJAsbbYLUP+rZUCdzUT9dN3JkmJnpga 7yslG3rWcMqMQ4/0pswJn8z5zTVo0uccBuNPn8we/mtapql/bvFVlZeSeY6d9cm6S4+qbfZs rj2x4Y1akOUhJZbijERDLeai4kQAwnJF3b0CAAA= Archived-At: Cc: "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 18:42:47 -0000 --_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A05D7Aeusaamb103erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Ross, et. al, I'm not aware of any IPR other than the one that already been disclosed, ht= tps://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2625/. Regards, Greg From: Ross Callon [mailto:rcallon@juniper.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 10:08 AM To: Gregory Mirsky; Jeff Tantsura; Ilya Varlashkin; Mach Chen; mpls@ietf.or= g Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org Subject: IPR Poll for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed Working Group, The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed have told us that the draft is ready for working group last call (WGLC). Before we do the WGLC we want to do an IPR poll on the document. This mail starts that IPR poll. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). Currently there is one IPR disclosure on draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed (which was the pre-working group version of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed): https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2625/ If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. Thanks, Ross (as MPLS WG co-chair) --_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A05D7Aeusaamb103erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Ross, et. al,

I’m not aware of an= y IPR other than the one that already been disclosed, http= s://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2625/.

 

      &nb= sp;         Regards,

      &nb= sp;            =              Gr= eg

 <= /p>

 <= /p>

From: Ross Cal= lon [mailto:rcallon@juniper.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 10:08 AM
To: Gregory Mirsky; Jeff Tantsura; Ilya Varlashkin; Mach Chen; mpls@= ietf.org
Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: IPR Poll for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed=

 

Working Group,

 

The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-dire= cted have told us that the

draft is ready for working group last c= all (WGLC).

 

Before we do the WGLC we want to do an = IPR poll on the document.

 

This mail starts that IPR poll.

 

Are you aware of any IPR that applies t= o draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed?

 

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in c= ompliance with IETF IPR rules

(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for= more details).

 

Currently there is one IPR disclosure o= n draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed

(which was the pre-working group versio= n of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed):

https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2625/

 

If you are listed as a document author = or contributor please respond to

this email regardless of whether or not= you are aware of any relevant

IPR. *The response needs to be sent to = the MPLS wg mailing list.* The

document will not advance to the next s= tage until a response has been

received from each author and contribut= or.

 

If you are on the MPLS WG email list bu= t are not listed as an author or

contributor, then please explicitly res= pond only if you are aware of any

IPR that has not yet been disclosed in = conformance with IETF rules.

 

Thanks, Ross

(as MPLS WG co-chair)=

 

--_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A05D7Aeusaamb103erics_-- From nobody Tue Mar 8 10:48:06 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE5F12D9AF; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 10:48:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Liaison Statement Management Tool To: "Loa Andersson" , "Ross Callon" , "George Swallow" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.15.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160308184803.18600.97126.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 10:48:03 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: tom.huber@coriant.com, Multiprotocol Label Switching Discussion List , itu-t-liaison@iab.org, lihan@chinamobile.com, Ross Callon Subject: [mpls] New Liaison Statement, "LS on work on MPLS-TP protection" X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 18:48:03 -0000 Title: LS on work on MPLS-TP protection Submission Date: 2016-03-08 URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1462/ Please reply by 2016-05-16 From: "Hiroshi Ota" To: Loa Andersson ,George Swallow ,Ross Callon Cc: Alvaro Retana ,Deborah Brungard ,Multiprotocol Label Switching Discussion List ,Scott Mansfield ,George Swallow ,John Drake ,Alia Atlas ,Ross Callon ,Loa Andersson ,itu-t-liaison@iab.org, Response Contacts: tom.huber@coriant.com, lihan@chinamobile.com Technical Contacts: Purpose: For comment Body: ITU-T SG15 wishes to inform the IETF mpls WG of an update to the ITU-T Q9/15 work programme to include a second amendment to Recommendation ITU-T G.8131/Y.1382 Linear protection switching for MPLS transport profile. This amendment will cover pseudowire protection based on Appendix A of IETF RFC 7771. The amendment is targeted for consent at the September 2016 plenary meeting of SG15. ITU-T Q9/15 has also been made aware of the initiation of work on MPLS-TP Shared-Ring protection (MSRP) mechanism for ring topology in draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection-00, and has consequently re-initiated work on draft Recommendation ITU-T G.8132/Y.1383 Ring protection switching for MPLS transport profile. As ITU-T Q9/15 intends to reference and be aligned with corresponding normative RFCs, we would appreciate your assessment of the anticipated completion date for draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection as the target consent date for draft Recommendation ITU-T G.8132/Y.1383 depends on it. Attachments: Liaison https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2016-03-08-itu-t-sg-15-mpls-ls-on-work-on-mpls-tp-protection-attachment-1.pdf From nobody Tue Mar 8 10:53:16 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8FA12D961; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 10:29:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Liaison Statement Management Tool To: , , , , , , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.15.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160308182929.18303.62865.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 10:29:29 -0800 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 10:53:14 -0800 Cc: itu-t-liaison@iab.org, Multiprotocol Label Switching Discussion List , naotaka.morita@ntt-at.co.jp, Common Control and Measurement Plane Discussion List , JP Vasseur , Jonathan Hardwick , Path Computation Element Discussion List , Ross Callon Subject: [mpls] New Liaison Statement, "LS on ITU-T SG15 OTNT standardization work plan" X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 18:29:29 -0000 Title: LS on ITU-T SG15 OTNT standardization work plan Submission Date: 2016-03-08 URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1460/ Please reply by 2016-08-31 From: "Naotaka Morita" To: loa@pi.nu, swallow.ietf@gmail.com, rcallon@juniper.net, jonathan.hardwick@metaswitch.com, jpv@cisco.com, julien.meuric@orange.com, daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com, zhangfatai@huawei.com Cc: Alvaro Retana ,Deborah Brungard ,Julien Meuric ,Multiprotocol Label Switching Discussion List ,Scott Mansfield ,Jonathan Hardwick ,Fatai Zhang ,George Swallow ,Path Computation Element Discussion List ,John Drake ,Alia Atlas ,Daniele Ceccarelli ,Ross Callon ,Loa Andersson ,Common Control and Measurement Plane Discussion List ,itu-t-liaison@iab.org,JP Vasseur , Response Contacts: naotaka.morita@ntt-at.co.jp Technical Contacts: Purpose: For comment Body: Thank you for your previous review and comments on “Optical Transport Networks & Technologies Standardization Work Plan.†Attached is Issue 21, the latest version updated by the SG15 meeting in February 2016. We appreciate your continued review and comments which allow us to keep the document up to date. Attach: − OTNT Standardization Work Plan, Issue 21 (TD504/PLEN) Attachments: OTNT Standardization Work Plan, Issue 21 (TD504/PLEN) https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2016-03-08-itu-t-sg-15-mpls-ccamp-pce-ls-on-itu-t-sg15-otnt-standardization-work-plan-attachment-1.pdf Liaison https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2016-03-08-itu-t-sg-15-mpls-ccamp-pce-ls-on-itu-t-sg15-otnt-standardization-work-plan-attachment-2.pdf From nobody Tue Mar 8 11:59:06 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AED12DA69; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 11:58:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.522 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3gqnZcWGbw4o; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 11:58:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from alln-iport-1.cisco.com (alln-iport-1.cisco.com [173.37.142.88]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD9CA12DA5D; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 11:58:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=618; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1457467122; x=1458676722; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=osus56VdCEaoypF+Pn2c6fGoda4m5SYIMFp+12304E4=; b=RwphO8gD4dHiOMj7YQaC96EK2RsUvGVBpb5A7+LOMhObTAPvuA8L/dWK hCgqfn8UjFDZTVKs6oDR3D6vpx9VuTiLVx35PV8rcGiozhsdJNvVEUwrA gB1XP0BaPkCKdLlNs9drsqyopGSeqbVPzMkYLEVbQ2T0AYkaQX2cI/3hq U=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0AVBQC8Lt9W/4YNJK1cgzqBRbg2giGBa?= =?us-ascii?q?YYPgUk5EwEBAQEBAQFkJ4REBDo/EgE+QiYBBAENDYgcvkMBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQEBF4YXjTYFlyoBgSKMRIFVFoREiFOOVQEiAT+DZIlrAX0BAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.22,557,1449532800"; d="scan'208";a="247203622" Received: from alln-core-12.cisco.com ([173.36.13.134]) by alln-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 08 Mar 2016 19:58:19 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-004.cisco.com (xch-aln-004.cisco.com [173.36.7.14]) by alln-core-12.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u28JwJ42004317 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 8 Mar 2016 19:58:19 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) by XCH-ALN-004.cisco.com (173.36.7.14) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 13:58:18 -0600 Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 13:58:18 -0600 From: "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" To: "TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org)" , "pce@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Agenda requests for joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS Yang session Thread-Index: AdF5dAnVP29i6/2LQUaQgiphMngjfg== Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 19:58:18 +0000 Message-ID: <29ff71e4b7724c118fdd2122ed03a264@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [161.44.213.184] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "Matt Hartley \(mhartley\)" , "teas-chairs@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "pce-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] Agenda requests for joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS Yang session X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 19:58:56 -0000 All, On the agenda for Buenos Aires, we have a session on Tuesday April 5th, 17:= 30 - 19:00 in Atlantico B. This is currently listed as a TEAS meeting, but = is intended as a joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS meeting for the discussion of Yang mod= els. If you'd like a slot to present a Yang draft in Buenos Aires, please send a= request to me and the WG chairs by Friday March 18th. Please note the date= s below; in particular, the deadline for draft submission is UTC 23:59 on M= arch 21st. We'll need slides for presentation by Friday, April 1st. Again, please send= to me and the Chairs. Cheers Matt From nobody Tue Mar 8 18:02:24 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA47312D533; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 18:02:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.221 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.221 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30GWGgdb5BMV; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 18:02:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4C3712DD45; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 18:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml707-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id CFO77024; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 02:02:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEMA413-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.72) by lhreml707-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.199) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 02:02:17 +0000 Received: from SZXEMA510-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.177]) by SZXEMA413-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.72]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 10:02:14 +0800 From: Mach Chen To: Ross Callon , Gregory Mirsky , Jeff Tantsura , Ilya Varlashkin , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: IPR Poll for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed Thread-Index: AQHReWV9Rlhl6Ry67kCUqsHITJAR9p9QXFqw Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 02:02:13 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.102.135] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F73A3CB31E8BE34FA1BBE3C8F0CB2AE28B6FBF2FSZXEMA510MBXchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A090202.56DF842B.0002, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.3.177, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 1691c49e6ad9b8f2b1b3b1dc49c80d21 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 02:02:23 -0000 --_000_F73A3CB31E8BE34FA1BBE3C8F0CB2AE28B6FBF2FSZXEMA510MBXchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ross, I am not aware of any IPR applies to this document. Best regards, Mach From: Ross Callon [mailto:rcallon@juniper.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 2:08 AM To: Gregory Mirsky; Jeff Tantsura; Ilya Varlashkin; Mach Chen; mpls@ietf.or= g Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org Subject: IPR Poll for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed Working Group, The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed have told us that the draft is ready for working group last call (WGLC). Before we do the WGLC we want to do an IPR poll on the document. This mail starts that IPR poll. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). Currently there is one IPR disclosure on draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed (which was the pre-working group version of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed): https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2625/ If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. Thanks, Ross (as MPLS WG co-chair) --_000_F73A3CB31E8BE34FA1BBE3C8F0CB2AE28B6FBF2FSZXEMA510MBXchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Ross,

 = ;

I am not a= ware of any IPR applies to this document.

 = ;

Best regar= ds,

Mach<= /o:p>

 = ;

From: Ross Callon [mailto:rcallon@juniper.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 2:08 AM
To: Gregory Mirsky; Jeff Tantsura; Ilya Varlashkin; Mach Chen; mpls@= ietf.org
Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: IPR Poll for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed=

 

Working Group,

 =

The authors of draft-iet= f-mpls-bfd-directed have told us that the

draft is ready for worki= ng group last call (WGLC).

 =

Before we do the WGLC we= want to do an IPR poll on the document.

 =

This mail starts that IP= R poll.

 =

Are you aware of any IPR= that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed?

 =

If so, has this IPR been= disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules

(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 36= 69 and 5378 for more details).

 =

Currently there is one I= PR disclosure on draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed

(which was the pre-worki= ng group version of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed):

https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2625/<= /o:p>

 =

If you are listed as a d= ocument author or contributor please respond to

this email regardless of= whether or not you are aware of any relevant

IPR. *The response needs= to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The

document will not advanc= e to the next stage until a response has been

received from each autho= r and contributor.

 =

If you are on the MPLS W= G email list but are not listed as an author or

contributor, then please= explicitly respond only if you are aware of any

IPR that has not yet bee= n disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.

 =

Thanks, Ross<= /span>

(as MPLS WG co-chair)

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(CET) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C41B19B5-904F-48C0-AE6D-A76C0C1FAD2D" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) From: iLya Varlashkin In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:33:28 +0000 Message-Id: References: To: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR Poll for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:33:59 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_C41B19B5-904F-48C0-AE6D-A76C0C1FAD2D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I=E2=80=99m not aware of any IPR related to this draft other than what = has already been disclosed. Kind regards, iLya > On 11 Mar 2016, at 08:55, Jeff Tantsura = wrote: >=20 > Hi Ross, >=20 > I=E2=80=99m not aware of any IPR other than the one that has already = been disclosed, https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2625 = /. >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Cheers, > Jeff >=20 > From: Ross Callon > > Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 19:08 > To: Gregory Mirsky >, Jeff Tantsura = >, Ilya = Varlashkin >, Mach Chen = >, "mpls@ietf.org = " > > Cc: "mpls-chairs@ietf.org " = > > Subject: IPR Poll for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed >=20 > Working Group, > =20 > The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed have told us that the > draft is ready for working group last call (WGLC). > =20 > Before we do the WGLC we want to do an IPR poll on the document. > =20 > This mail starts that IPR poll. > =20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed? > =20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > =20 > Currently there is one IPR disclosure on = draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed > (which was the pre-working group version of = draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed): > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2625/ = > =20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond = to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The > document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been > received from each author and contributor. > =20 > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author = or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of = any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > =20 > Thanks, Ross > (as MPLS WG co-chair) > =20 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls = --Apple-Mail=_C41B19B5-904F-48C0-AE6D-A76C0C1FAD2D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I=E2=80=99m not aware of any IPR related to this draft other = than what has already been disclosed.

Kind regards,
iLya

On 11 Mar 2016, at 08:55, Jeff = Tantsura <jeff.tantsura@ericsson.com> wrote:

Hi= Ross,

I=E2=80=99m not aware of any IPR = other than the one that has already been disclosed, https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2625/.

Thanks!

Cheers,
Jeff

From: Ross Callon <rcallon@juniper.net>
Date: Tuesday, March 8, = 2016 at 19:08
To: Gregory Mirsky = <gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com>, Jeff Tantsura <jeff.tantsura@ericsson.com>, Ilya Varlashkin <ilya@nobulus.com>, Mach = Chen <mach.chen@huawei.com>, = "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>
Cc: "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" <mpls-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: IPR Poll for = draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed

Working Group,
 
The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed have = told us that the
draft is ready for working group last call (WGLC).
 
Before we do the WGLC we want to do an IPR poll = on the document.
 
This mail starts that IPR poll.
 
Are you aware of any IPR that applies to = draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed?
 
If= so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more = details).
 
Currently there is one IPR disclosure on = draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed
(which was the pre-working = group version of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed):
https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2625/
 
If you are listed as a document author or = contributor please respond to
this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any = relevant
IPR. *The response needs = to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The
document will not advance to the next stage = until a response has been
received from each author and contributor.
 
If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not = listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are = aware of any
IPR that has not yet been = disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
 
Thanks, Ross
(as MPLS WG co-chair)
 
_______________________________________________
mpls mailing = list
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Working Group,

 

This is to initiate a two week working = group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt.

 

Please send your comments to the mpls w= g mailing list (mpls@ietf.org).

 

There is one IPR disclosure on draft-mi= rsky-mpls-bfd-directed

(which was the pre-working group versio= n of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed):

https://datatracker.ietf.org/i= pr/2625/  

All the authors have stated that they a= re not aware of any other IPR that relates to this

draft.

 

This working group last call will end a= t the end of the day Friday March 25, 2016. 

 

As with any WGLC, working group partici= pants are requested to read the document

and comment. If you feel that the docum= ent is ready for publication it is appropriate to

respond to any WGLC with a short and si= mple email indicating support.

 

Ross

for the MPLS WG chairs

 

 

--_000_DM2PR05MB5739589085FA0F2BE6D09D3A5B50DM2PR05MB573namprd_-- From nobody Fri Mar 11 09:34:48 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856B212D85E; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:34:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.609 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.609 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, T_KAM_HTML_FONT_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T2HrK0kZEVtR; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:34:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74CE912D716; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:34:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u2BHYeYd017124; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:34:40 GMT Received: from 950129200 ([66.129.241.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u2BHYZFT017001 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:34:38 GMT From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Ross Callon'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:34:36 -0000 Message-ID: <064501d17bbc$49f36110$ddda2330$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0646_01D17BBC.49F66E50" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIPtX5PXBQ9ZIS32WQ03GWYAODWQZ7YCy/A Content-Language: en-gb X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1679-8.0.0.1202-22188.002 X-TM-AS-Result: No--18.179-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--18.179-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: YBNypeo131BbJCKOm3VRCaj5v7I4/SgYmaNJLBg9NzWaF3c5uYrk34M7 zVCe86C9V0ThOjwD9lwtMfCdg6KRDbqGBW9J0Yqj5Jhw0TywQPdWFhmPLWym/kuDyhliKQkVaIz bcTh5EYPU3yxz5maqmZVRzPxemJL06Pzo2DwBrIoM74Nf6tTB9uEtb6e4qSOWVj/G+ZC2n940Ga ZO0xs/uZ4kN5dGmpzaUSn3o+eoUmzgHtq54uZTQGsTVziYHlSa5zldYRH+EtG3l1z8JYfAfPwcn P9OIj54R1vveBQPCRdCvapcIkxJX66IBbSnfz+30pZKESwinxOekFZ5VzCMoF632KLJ/vqKoSAY JH6B6vYiHZrZAcDtw5cDhniv1q1zU+A7YkpDJ1goDMZ3xV44iHVw2xxcZthfnb+0a0qIQCQpJvJ LpbPfP2hKBwPmHsPFu72KpAktHS+2InV6AaP6lZUhT38IzfaR7KBBZ2QBUyxPifNxprH2cuulrr vUsCg/hxaO3bw3PjDjrayXo0o3MIfsPVs/8Vw6EfKzCAntKpAGk2pTPAu+9//55Kkc+9/6c91xM YNqHkWBkjWfpo1TNt/wYmMFcJSIcbVmJQ7kUKVLwIXeA1TZXXii5kSOR4tGVCir/P/HlBCexSLB WoM4BFISCbZIzCBZIj0zFI5DoJJeCrB32KOS0H6cp973lFkJS/4a/2DJkv/yzEFaT3dkzG5zP/F SQ4TNo27w8ee4WC8OsNNBnlgRWn0tCKdnhB58r10pknZXGJrJ4y0wP1A6AB8AKgKWeNGhA9vnXq 1h8XU1SvviRRlM8OD2lNLNn6VImHZY/zL6QxbzWoE3Wx2CchTtmJuG/1Mg Archived-At: Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:34:45 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0646_01D17BBC.49F66E50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ross, thanks for this notice. I need to read the IPR referenced by the disclosure, but pending that, I do not support this document going forward in its current state. I think it is important for the working group to seek to develop solutions that either completely unencumbered by IPR or that is available on free-to-implementers terms. It may turn out that this is not possible with the disclosed IPR, but I think the WG should try. For the avoidance of doubt: I am not making any comment on the IPR-holder's rights to impose whatever license they want, and I am not asking them to vary their terms. I do not that it would be convenient if the IPR holder updated the disclosure to show that it applies to the current WG draft. Thanks, Adrian From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ross Callon Sent: 11 March 2016 17:13 To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt Working Group, This is to initiate a two week working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt. Please send your comments to the mpls wg mailing list ( mpls@ietf.org). There is one IPR disclosure on draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed (which was the pre-working group version of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed): https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2625/ All the authors have stated that they are not aware of any other IPR that relates to this draft. This working group last call will end at the end of the day Friday March 25, 2016. As with any WGLC, working group participants are requested to read the document and comment. If you feel that the document is ready for publication it is appropriate to respond to any WGLC with a short and simple email indicating support. Ross for the MPLS WG chairs ------=_NextPart_000_0646_01D17BBC.49F66E50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ross, thanks for this = notice.

 

I need to read the IPR = referenced by the disclosure, but pending that, I do not support this = document going forward in its current state.

 

I think it is important for = the working group to seek to develop solutions that either completely = unencumbered by IPR or that is available on free-to-implementers terms. = It may turn out that this is not possible with the disclosed IPR, but I = think the WG should try.

 

For the avoidance of doubt: I = am not making any comment on the IPR-holder's rights to impose whatever = license they want, and I am not asking them to vary their terms. =

 

I do not that it would be = convenient if the IPR holder updated the disclosure to show that it = applies to the current WG draft.

 

Thanks,

Adrian

 

From: mpls = [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ross = Callon
Sent: 11 March 2016 17:13
To: = mpls@ietf.org
Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: = [mpls] working group last call on = draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt

 

Working Group,

 

This is to initiate a two week working group last call on = draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt.

 

Please send your comments to the mpls wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org).

 

There is one IPR disclosure on = draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed

(which was the pre-working group version of = draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed):

https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2625/<= /a>  

All the authors have stated that they are not aware of any = other IPR that relates to this

draft.

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I think it is important for the working group to seek to develop solution= s that either completely > unencumbered by IPR or that is available on free-to-implementers terms. My understanding of the process (which I really *should* know by now, but I= am sure someone will correct me if I get this wrong): - As a working group, we get to decide by rough consensus of the working gr= oup whether or not we are willing to progress a document, based on whatever criteria we want i= ncluding whether or not the technology is available on "free-to-implement terms". - As a working group, we DO NOT get to decide whether or not any particular= IPR is valid and we should not be making any statements about this (and I note that Adrian did = not make any statement about validity). Thanks, Ross (as WG co-chair) From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:35 PM To: Ross Callon; mpls@ietf.org Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org Subject: RE: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed= -02.txt Ross, thanks for this notice. I need to read the IPR referenced by the disclosure, but pending that, I do= not support this document going forward in its current state. I think it is important for the working group to seek to develop solutions = that either completely unencumbered by IPR or that is available on free-to-= implementers terms. It may turn out that this is not possible with the disc= losed IPR, but I think the WG should try. For the avoidance of doubt: I am not making any comment on the IPR-holder's= rights to impose whatever license they want, and I am not asking them to v= ary their terms. I do not that it would be convenient if the IPR holder updated the disclosu= re to show that it applies to the current WG draft. Thanks, Adrian From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ross Callon Sent: 11 March 2016 17:13 To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.= txt Working Group, This is to initiate a two week working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-b= fd-directed-02.txt. Please send your comments to the mpls wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). There is one IPR disclosure on draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed (which was the pre-working group version of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed): https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2625/ All the authors have stated that they are not aware of any other IPR that r= elates to this draft. This working group last call will end at the end of the day Friday March 25= , 2016. As with any WGLC, working group participants are requested to read the docu= ment and comment. If you feel that the document is ready for publication it is a= ppropriate to respond to any WGLC with a short and simple email indicating support. Ross for the MPLS WG chairs --_000_DM2PR05MB573E050599CABADD6407409A5B50DM2PR05MB573namprd_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> I think it is import= ant for the working group to seek to develop solutions that either complete= ly

> unencumbered by IPR = or that is available on free-to-implementers terms.

 <= /p>

My understanding of the p= rocess (which I really *should* know by now, but I am sure someone

will correct me if I get = this wrong):

 <= /p>

- As a working group, we = get to decide by rough consensus of the working group whether or not

we are willing to progres= s a document, based on whatever criteria we want including whether or

not the technology is ava= ilable on “free-to-implement terms”.

 <= /p>

- As a working group, we = DO NOT get to decide whether or not any particular IPR is valid and we

should not be making any = statements about this (and I note that Adrian did not make any statement

about validity).

 <= /p>

Thanks, Ross (as WG co-ch= air)

 <= /p>

From: Adrian F= arrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:35 PM
To: Ross Callon; mpls@ietf.org
Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-d= irected-02.txt

 

Ross, than= ks for this notice.

 = ;

I need to = read the IPR referenced by the disclosure, but pending that, I do not suppo= rt this document going forward in its current state.

 = ;

I think it= is important for the working group to seek to develop solutions that eithe= r completely unencumbered by IPR or that is available on free-to-implemente= rs terms. It may turn out that this is not possible with the disclosed IPR, b= ut I think the WG should try.

 = ;

For the av= oidance of doubt: I am not making any comment on the IPR-holder's rights to= impose whatever license they want, and I am not asking them to vary their terms.

 = ;

I do not t= hat it would be convenient if the IPR holder updated the disclosure to show= that it applies to the current WG draft.

 = ;

Thanks,

Adrian

 = ;

From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ross Callon
Sent: 11 March 2016 17:13
To: mpls@ietf.org
Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org=
Subject: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-direc= ted-02.txt

 

Working Group,

 

This is to initiate a two week working = group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt.

 

Please send your comments to the mpls w= g mailing list (mpls@ietf.org).

 

There is one IPR disclosure on draft-mi= rsky-mpls-bfd-directed

(which was the pre-working group versio= n of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed):

https://datatracker.ietf.org/i= pr/2625/  

All the authors have stated that they a= re not aware of any other IPR that relates to this

draft.

 

This working group last call will end a= t the end of the day Friday March 25, 2016. 

 

As with any WGLC, working group partici= pants are requested to read the document

and comment. If you feel that the docum= ent is ready for publication it is appropriate to

respond to any WGLC with a short and si= mple email indicating support.

 

Ross

for the MPLS WG chairs

 

 

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X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:05:28 -0000 Dear Tarek Saad, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. mpls Session 1 (2:30:00) Wednesday, Morning Session I 1000-1230 Room Name: Pacifico A size: 300 --------------------------------------------- Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Multiprotocol Label Switching Area Name: Routing Area Session Requester: Tarek Saad Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2.5 Hours Number of Attendees: 150 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: teas ccamp pce bess bfd idr pals bier Second Priority: nvo3 sfc spring i2rs rtgarea rtgwg Third Priority: ospf isis sidr Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Mon Mar 14 08:45:57 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6637F12DC98; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 08:45:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1_61XjhKSbdG; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 08:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A77112DCAE; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 08:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [49.149.180.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 67B95180158D; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 16:39:40 +0100 (CET) To: "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-lsp-ping@ietf.org" References: <56CAD781.3070207@pi.nu> From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <56E6DB27.8080808@pi.nu> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 23:39:19 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56CAD781.3070207@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] Closed -- working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-lsp-ping X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 15:45:55 -0000 Working Group, This wglc is now closed. There has been one set of comments, could the authors please address the comments, check that the reviewer is comfortable about how it has been addressed and post a new version. /Loa for the mpls wg co-chairs On 2016-02-22 17:40, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, > > This is to initiate a two week working group last call on > draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-lsp-ping. > > Please send your comments to the mpls wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). > > There are three IPR disclosures against this document. > > The document shepherd and working group chairs are frequently asked > about the working group discussions related to any IPR disclosures. > > We like to remind the working group that discussion on the content > and validity of an IPR disclosure should not take place on the MPLS wg > list or any IETF mailing lists. > > However we are looking for simple statements whether you think the > working group should continue progress the document, regardless of an > existing IPR disclosure. Please include this information in your > "support/do not support" when responding to working group adoption > calls and last calls. > > All the authors and contributors (with one exception) have stated on > the working group mailing list that they are not aware of any other > IPRs that relates to this draft. > > Note: One of the authors - Nobo - has not responded to the IPR poll, we > know that in his new role Nobo is an infrequent reader of IETF mails. > We have decided to go ahead with the wglc, while we continue to ping him > on the IPR poll. We have a pretty good idea off Nobo's response, but > should ther be any "surprises" this will be brought to the attention of > the working group. > > This working group last call ends March 08, 2016, however the wglc will > not be closed until we have all the responses on the IPR poll. > > > /Loa > for the MPLS wg chairs From nobody Mon Mar 14 08:52:46 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE4312DAD4; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 08:52:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YwEcuyzulcXO; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 08:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38EB912D624; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 08:48:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [49.149.180.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2F711180158D; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 16:48:19 +0100 (CET) To: "mpls@ietf.org" , draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib@ietf.org From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <56E6DD2F.7090000@pi.nu> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 23:47:59 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 15:52:45 -0000 Working Group, The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib has told us that the document is ready to be considered for working group last call. We will start an IPR poll prior to the start of the wglc. This mail starts the IPR poll. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). There are no IPR disclosures filed directly against this document. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. /Loa mpls wg co-chair -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Mon Mar 14 11:07:30 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDAF12D5DC; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:07:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P1y8ilG-AZ_K; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-x235.google.com (mail-ob0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5553812D5DA; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ob0-x235.google.com with SMTP id fp4so184825801obb.2; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=AYRPbqVbpGoYCgDlHnL5ZCxlQpXfviNEr+ww1Q7nU+s=; b=l6jCnaLYKYGU6cy/hgDe07g4Hzg0pjoT+qY/U/l8bNCY2qc4LhomITy7jH3De+PRbK 4hIUcbqa3Po9ziZSlV+0x6jFpV1qoxdJn5omJ+DtbGDkCwRUPZAudkTR524V/+W2Z3tf EZ84L3uMZ6BN7XdFvowtaerOvzEbx13zR1FpxRFPgGrO35q5DJsnxt9eFu5yw/EiqORL gDw6Dg9qq/wNwXYAssMjocx7qPooyZCxqTj2DPnpYjTxvZ8lkBeSGjc4MbZsh/Xv3qe7 OCVpFl+3SfVyOOT7kLfkMAEA4SHXmf11cM6OYnCImesujHQ2QoynJfYvLq3JjF5TdzeH p2pw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=AYRPbqVbpGoYCgDlHnL5ZCxlQpXfviNEr+ww1Q7nU+s=; b=cCWWewH5MU4EJKdE8n5srWwSN2wR3i570RXr9uOsJn5Mh1sEGdv/YYaQbs+MdSQWVB p5a/MAIkOTlP7cIGqXDAOJqcQod6oduD78yr4CpLK09O7OuW3Ddt0Xe1+dLBe7018XCi m22vcAZ78we4lHMXj4eDh/En/EoQZnh0+0GFR81TWqLORqmGq//bHH4qrlN+h/Yczv9t CWZux9Km7YtKQ7LMcL4QfVGlltNQxMfYExzxqGXevLZYcRf1IDW7EnfjS+51GzVPR/f6 mblhoEPh2ZYEKIuX12+ZTxkzAsgBrUTIz0vIsdzHMeyUvfe8k5S1WQwi75NhmIA7dwvg YPbA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKFb70mF6MxRbKq0EaA7vriEh3hPbT9/qBeHg+YY9P9KAxJZ8zs8w6z+mXo+3S9u5Euj2NPNCsT+PEmdw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.158.197 with SMTP id ww5mr14629373obb.71.1457978845745; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.157.20.175 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:07:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <56E6DD2F.7090000@pi.nu> References: <56E6DD2F.7090000@pi.nu> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:07:25 -0700 Message-ID: From: venkatesan mahalingam To: Loa Andersson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0149c28e30de45052e06277e Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib@ietf.org, "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 18:07:28 -0000 --089e0149c28e30de45052e06277e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thanks Loa. I'm not aware of any IPR related to this draft. -Venkat. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, > > The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib has told us that > the document is ready to be considered for working group last call. > > We will start an IPR poll prior to the start of the wglc. > > This mail starts the IPR poll. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > There are no IPR disclosures filed directly against this document. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The > document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been > received from each author and contributor. > > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > > /Loa > mpls wg co-chair > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com > Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu > Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > --089e0149c28e30de45052e06277e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Loa.

I'm not aware of any IP= R related to this draft.


-Venkat.

On Mon,= Mar 14, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
Working Group,

The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib has told us that the document is ready to be considered for working group last call.

We will start an IPR poll prior to the start of the wglc.

This mail starts the IPR poll.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protecti= on-mib?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

There are no IPR disclosures filed directly against this document.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
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Sam Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2016, at 11:07 AM, venkatesan mahalingam = wrote: >=20 > Thanks Loa. >=20 > I'm not aware of any IPR related to this draft. >=20 >=20 > -Venkat. >=20 >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Loa Andersson wrote: >> Working Group, >>=20 >> The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib has told us that >> the document is ready to be considered for working group last call. >>=20 >> We will start an IPR poll prior to the start of the wglc. >>=20 >> This mail starts the IPR poll. >>=20 >> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protec= tion-mib? >>=20 >> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >>=20 >> There are no IPR disclosures filed directly against this document. >>=20 >> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to >> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant >> IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The >> document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been >> received from each author and contributor. >>=20 >> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or >> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any >> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >>=20 >>=20 >> /Loa >> mpls wg co-chair >> --=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com >> Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu >> Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list >> mpls@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >=20 --Apple-Mail-B6C27C3D-2A37-4167-892C-3940FA1C1E3E Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Not aware of any IPR related to this draft.

Sam

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On Mar 14, 2016, at 11:07 AM, venkatesan mahalingam <venkatflex@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Loa.

I'm not aware of any IPR related to this draft.


-Venkat.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
Working Group,

The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib has told us that
the document is ready to be considered for working group last call.

We will start an IPR poll prior to the start of the wglc.

This mail starts the IPR poll.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

There are no IPR disclosures filed directly against this document.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The
document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been
received from each author and contributor.

If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any
IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.


/Loa
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charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you, Loa.

I am not aware of any IPR related to this document, either.

Jeong-dong



-------- =BF=F8=BA=BB =C0=CC=B8=DE=C0=CF --------
=BA=B8=B3=BD =BB=E7=B6=F7: Sam Aldrin <aldrin.ietf@gmail.com>
=B3=AF=C2=A5: 2016/3/15 03:23 (GMT+09:00)
=B9=DE=C0=BA =BB=E7=B6=F7: venkatesan mahalingam <venkatflex@gmail.= com>
=C2=FC=C1=B6: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>, mpls@ietf.org, draft-ie= tf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@ietf.org
=C1=A6=B8=F1: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protect= ion-mib

Not aware of any IPR related to this draft.

Sam

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 14, 2016, at 11:07 AM, venkatesan mahalingam <venkatflex@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Loa.

I'm not aware of any IPR related to this draft.


-Venkat.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Loa Andersson <= span dir=3D"ltr"> <loa@pi.nu>= wrote:
Working Group,

The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib has told us that the document is ready to be considered for working group last call.

We will start an IPR poll prior to the start of the wglc.

This mail starts the IPR poll.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protecti= on-mib?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

There are no IPR disclosures filed directly against this document.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The
document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been
received from each author and contributor.

If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.


/Loa
mpls wg co-chair
--


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Senior MPLS Expert                &= nbsp;         loa@pi.nu
Huawei Technologies (consultant)     phone: +46 739 81 21 64

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--_000_fa4k9deumf9b6txm6k36jq1h1457997324352emailandroidcom_-- From nobody Tue Mar 15 07:41:55 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9098D12DA87; Tue, 15 Mar 2016 07:41:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5yD-HbZwakNX; Tue, 15 Mar 2016 07:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ig0-x22e.google.com (mail-ig0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15CB312DC27; Tue, 15 Mar 2016 07:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ig0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id mh10so17178550igb.0; Tue, 15 Mar 2016 07:41:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=ayfDVoi909AhC3RxJQeTHna21cglAfXurDWYlkOlLlk=; b=aKKlB06yV74mLhQ4hFw5EIY0uNe0jHraZLqXiD/hyA8evpd/O7u69bWVAzuv1HEQse ffmaqgbCNcJs1VbZKdS2siIokyvVnzjCTo7Jf9fywvuVO5P/UqtCMCVjt8w5crl3UWCn XWIMZQNp364Kgp+XNqcaglpcjFPEooBvQgnMGnwyiFTvjY/0T4k6j6MGMZ7X7MD1al0/ 0VUQioGkQ8MnBS3CNuaISyTCRQUwULXRKYVgeO6a1vSvzUgY19MtFNbZgisEGNaV91Kp GkuzsDX+TFO5D026UbVuLVcpy+fMjr2vjLMQuJzRVz/mN1nc0ZA+12kTj/+ejXDJbWYL ScsQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=ayfDVoi909AhC3RxJQeTHna21cglAfXurDWYlkOlLlk=; b=TeOa4Q27f2qM3N/CuGHzhXjY437aYtQJQ/D49EPE4E10d5VpPd5HHp1QQQXAOvEP61 l2tQqbM8ZyoxD3ZNgsuUEGg9ddkxfnO1NZgPlhcKjwSz3OULjJLGPGsXZBcT5Kt+4C1Q 3eJ+3RnedrO9wkhPTb/d4C2J3JmM6a6fnz8o2T09t+Ufu744lxq4AjtdgZKzRY/hwZ1k kUJJOoQqJ9gO2oh1kQIf/b136Vr/cvjGlWaF/+zTBkZVm35hWrDhI5qQVIyFRA78LynJ UH4nQm6tewHfnZynz31Y2umdBp/SIa2c7066Is8mCDJsWjNxs2Ba+P9QZ81nU8JGqvtC 2r5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIbKmym953RXCHR/jWgFGAl1h4Anpwsv8myUWQiH/G5Q5MDDt2JPrcsDmHMGQe4Wo7tpTHi3JzD0Fq6Uw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.43.168 with SMTP id x8mr24679435igl.92.1458052897472; Tue, 15 Mar 2016 07:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.37.210 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2016 07:41:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <56E6DD2F.7090000@pi.nu> References: <56E6DD2F.7090000@pi.nu> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 20:11:37 +0530 Message-ID: From: Kingston Smiler To: Loa Andersson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01184ac2048df0052e176551 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib@ietf.org, "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:41:54 -0000 --089e01184ac2048df0052e176551 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I'm not aware of any IPR related to this draft. Regards, S. Kingston Smiler On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, > > The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib has told us that > the document is ready to be considered for working group last call. > > We will start an IPR poll prior to the start of the wglc. > > This mail starts the IPR poll. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > There are no IPR disclosures filed directly against this document. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The > document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been > received from each author and contributor. > > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > > /Loa > mpls wg co-chair > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com > Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu > Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > --089e01184ac2048df0052e176551 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm not aware of any IPR related to this draft.

Regards,
S. Kingston Smiler

On M= on, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
Working Group,

The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib has told us that the document is ready to be considered for working group last call.

We will start an IPR poll prior to the start of the wglc.

This mail starts the IPR poll.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protecti= on-mib?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

There are no IPR disclosures filed directly against this document.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The
document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been
received from each author and contributor.

If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.


/Loa
mpls wg co-chair
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--089e01184ac2048df0052e176551-- From nobody Tue Mar 15 08:08:24 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD82E12D5EF; Tue, 15 Mar 2016 08:08:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.522 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SXo8Q2ORxYgf; Tue, 15 Mar 2016 08:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com [173.37.86.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5B1012DABC; Tue, 15 Mar 2016 08:07:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=732; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1458054449; x=1459264049; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=nIZ8dZJ7H1uS42V3ZbkkdFFGZvnr99AG6omX0rOr34s=; b=WUMFuLggxinNMhir7nEhZV2PuTJdDhd7BZwYum/m8PIr2S6Qkd60yXF1 JRODcVSrFPZ/PXqyHrfN0x5i6VvtONAzkQiO/zrNoNkzE7C9N3x9ogXjS CBYNRON6HdEuh4CT/MhV/H/t/xtel4auJt+OGS6oPv3NrU54CeeCBkOJN c=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0AHAgA6JOhW/5NdJa1eg0aBSLg6gg8BD?= =?us-ascii?q?YFuhg0CgTQ4FAEBAQEBAQFkJ4RBAQEBAwE6PwULAgEINhAyJQEBBAENDYgWCL4?= =?us-ascii?q?NAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBFYYahEKIdQEEl08BjXmBbIRJiFeOfgEeA?= =?us-ascii?q?QFCg2WKTwF9AQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,339,1454976000"; d="scan'208";a="80938051" Received: from rcdn-core-11.cisco.com ([173.37.93.147]) by rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 15 Mar 2016 15:07:28 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-002.cisco.com (xch-aln-002.cisco.com [173.36.7.12]) by rcdn-core-11.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u2FF7T5f008664 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 15 Mar 2016 15:07:29 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) by XCH-ALN-002.cisco.com (173.36.7.12) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Tue, 15 Mar 2016 10:07:28 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Tue, 15 Mar 2016 10:07:28 -0500 From: "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" To: "TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org)" , "pce@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Agenda requests for joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS Yang session Thread-Index: AdF5dAnVP29i6/2LQUaQgiphMngjfgFWEyfQ Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 15:07:27 +0000 Message-ID: References: <29ff71e4b7724c118fdd2122ed03a264@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <29ff71e4b7724c118fdd2122ed03a264@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [161.44.212.209] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "Matt Hartley \(mhartley\)" , "teas-chairs@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "pce-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] Agenda requests for joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS Yang session X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 15:08:20 -0000 All, A reminder: deadline for slot requests is Friday. Cheers Matt > All, >=20 > On the agenda for Buenos Aires, we have a session on Tuesday April 5th, > 17:30 - 19:00 in Atlantico B. This is currently listed as a TEAS meeting, > but is intended as a joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS meeting for the discussion of > Yang models. >=20 > If you'd like a slot to present a Yang draft in Buenos Aires, please send > a request to me and the WG chairs by Friday March 18th. Please note the > dates below; in particular, the deadline for draft submission is UTC 23:5= 9 > on March 21st. >=20 > We'll need slides for presentation by Friday, April 1st. Again, please > send to me and the Chairs. >=20 > Cheers >=20 > Matt From nobody Tue Mar 15 09:49:00 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F57912DB4F; Tue, 15 Mar 2016 09:48:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.16.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160315164857.8098.24535.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 09:48:57 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org, ipr-announce@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] IPR Disclosure Telefonaktiebolaget LM Ericsson (publ)'s Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 16:48:57 -0000 Dear Greg Mirsky, Jeff Tantsura, Ilya Varlashkin, Mach Chen: An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) Directed Return Path" (draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2769/). The title of the IPR disclosure is "Telefonaktiebolaget LM Ericsson (publ)'s Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed" Thank you IETF Secretariat From nobody Tue Mar 15 14:08:13 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD80E12DDB2; Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:07:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.16.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160315210753.7666.88339.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:07:53 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 21:07:54 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Residence Time Measurement in MPLS network Authors : Greg Mirsky Stefano Ruffini Eric Gray John Drake Stewart Bryant Alexander Vainshtein Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt Pages : 26 Date : 2016-03-15 Abstract: This document specifies G-ACh based Residence Time Measurement and how it can be used by time synchronization protocols being transported over MPLS domain. Residence time is the variable part of propagation delay of timing and synchronization messages and knowing what this delay is for each message allows for a more accurate determination of the delay to be taken into account in applying the value included in a PTP event message. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A0D437@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , TEAS WG Subject: Re: [mpls] [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 22:47:38 -0000 Greg, On 3/15/2016 5:13 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: > Hi, > this version primarily addresses comments related to the proposed extensions to RSVP-TE and operation of the control plane in support of Residence Time Measurement. Would appreciate the confirmation from Lou. I don't think I saw a response to: > I think this doesn't always work, e.g., when RRO is modified due to > policy or limited due to size constraints. This has to be addressed. I > can see how to easily detect this situation, but not how to get the > number of non-supporting hops. I guess it's always possible to play ttl > comparison games, but that's pretty ugly too. Any thoughts? Parts of Sections 4.6 and 4.7 are a bit rough and could stand a reread and editorial pass. Section 4.7 says PathErr messages are sent in response to Resv processing error. This is clearly wrong. Lou > Authors always welcome comments and questions about RTM. > > Regards, > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:08 PM > To: Alexander Vainshtein; Gregory Mirsky; Stefano Ruffini; John Drake; Sasha Vainshtein; Eric Gray; Stewart Bryant; Eric Gray > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > > > A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > has been successfully submitted by Greg Mirsky and posted to the IETF repository. > > Name: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time > Revision: 05 > Title: Residence Time Measurement in MPLS network > Document date: 2016-03-15 > Group: mpls > Pages: 26 > URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time/ > Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 > Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 > > Abstract: > This document specifies G-ACh based Residence Time Measurement and > how it can be used by time synchronization protocols being > transported over MPLS domain. > > Residence time is the variable part of propagation delay of timing > and synchronization messages and knowing what this delay is for each > message allows for a more accurate determination of the delay to be > taken into account in applying the value included in a PTP event > message. > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > From nobody Tue Mar 15 15:56:14 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE8D12DE3E; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lou, thank you for the most detailed comments. Please find my notes in-line tagg= ed GIM>>. Regards, Greg -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 3:41 PM To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-reside= nce-time-05.txt Greg, On 3/15/2016 5:13 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: > Hi, > this version primarily addresses comments related to the proposed extensi= ons to RSVP-TE and operation of the control plane in support of Residence T= ime Measurement. Would appreciate the confirmation from Lou. I don't think I saw a response to: > I think this doesn't always work, e.g., when RRO is modified due to > policy or limited due to size constraints. This has to be addressed. > I can see how to easily detect this situation, but not how to get the > number of non-supporting hops. I guess it's always possible to play > ttl comparison games, but that's pretty ugly too. Any thoughts? GIM>> The following text in Section 4.7 intended to handle the situation yo= u've described: If the node cannot find matching ID in RRO, then it MUST try to use ID of the next node in the RTM_SET until it finds the match or reaches the end of RTM_SET TLV. If match have been found, then the calculated value is used by the node as TTL value in outgoing label to reach the next RTM capable node on the LSP. Otherwise, the TTL value MUST be set to 255. In essence, the node tries to locate the closest to it downstream RTM-capab= le node. Otherwise, it sets TTL to 255 so that the RTM packets arrive at eg= ress LER. Parts of Sections 4.6 and 4.7 are a bit rough and could stand a reread and = editorial pass. GIM>> I'm trying. Section 4.7 says PathErr messages are sent in response to Resv processing e= rror. This is clearly wrong. GIM>> Great catch! I'm ready to update to ResvErr in -06. Lou > Authors always welcome comments and questions about RTM. > > Regards, > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:i= nternet-drafts@ietf.org] > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:08 PM > To: Alexander Vainshtein; Gregory Mirsky; Stefano Ruffini; John Drake; > Sasha Vainshtein; Eric Gray; Stewart Bryant; Eric Gray > Subject: New Version Notification for > draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > > > A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > has been successfully submitted by Greg Mirsky and posted to the IETF rep= ository. > > Name: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time > Revision: 05 > Title: Residence Time Measurement in MPLS network > Document date: 2016-03-15 > Group: mpls > Pages: 26 > URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-resi= dence-time-05.txt > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-residenc= e-time/ > Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-tim= e-05 > Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-mpls-resid= ence-time-05 > > Abstract: > This document specifies G-ACh based Residence Time Measurement and > how it can be used by time synchronization protocols being > transported over MPLS domain. > > Residence time is the variable part of propagation delay of timing > and synchronization messages and knowing what this delay is for each > message allows for a more accurate determination of the delay to be > taken into account in applying the value included in a PTP event > message. > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A0D5ACeusaamb103erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Lou,

thank you for the most detailed comments. Please = find my notes in-line tagged GIM>>.

 

        &= nbsp;       Regards,

        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;           Greg

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 3:41 PM
To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org
Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG
Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-reside= nce-time-05.txt

 

 

Greg,

 

On 3/15/2016 5:13 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote:<= /o:p>

> Hi,

> this version primarily addresses comments re= lated to the proposed extensions to RSVP-TE and operation of the control pl= ane in support of Residence Time Measurement. Would appreciate the confirma= tion from Lou.

 

I don't think I saw a response to:

> I think this doesn't always work, e.g., when= RRO is modified due to

> policy or limited due to size constraints.&n= bsp; This has to be addressed. 

> I can see how to easily detect this situatio= n, but not how to get the

> number of non-supporting hops.  I guess= it's always possible to play

> ttl comparison games, but that's pretty ugly= too.  Any thoughts?

GIM>> The following text in Section 4.7 int= ended to handle the situation you’ve described:

   If the n= ode cannot find matching ID in RRO,

   then it = MUST try to use ID of the next node in the RTM_SET until it

   finds th= e match or reaches the end of RTM_SET TLV.  If match have

   been fou= nd, then the calculated value is used by the node as TTL<= /p>

   value in= outgoing label to reach the next RTM capable node on the=

   LSP.&nbs= p; Otherwise, the TTL value MUST be set to 255.

In essence, the node = tries to locate the closest to it downstream RTM-capable node. Otherwise, i= t sets TTL to 255 so that the RTM packets arrive at egress LER.<= /span>

 

Parts of Sections 4.6 and 4.7 are a bit rough and= could stand a reread and editorial pass.

GIM>> I’m= trying.

 

Section 4.7 says PathErr messages are sent in res= ponse to Resv processing error.  This is clearly wrong.

GIM>> Great catch! I’m ready to updat= e to ResvErr in -06.

 

Lou

 

> Authors always welcome comments and question= s about RTM.

> 

>        &n= bsp;    Regards,

>        &n= bsp;            = ;        Greg

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: internet-drafts= @ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.or= g]

> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:08 PM

> To: Alexander Vainshtein; Gregory Mirsky; St= efano Ruffini; John Drake;

> Sasha Vainshtein; Eric Gray; Stewart Bryant;= Eric Gray

> Subject: New Version Notification for <= /o:p>

> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt

> 

> 

> A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-mpls-reside= nce-time-05.txt

> has been successfully submitted by Greg Mirs= ky and posted to the IETF repository.

> 

> Name:      &nb= sp;            =             draft-ie= tf-mpls-residence-time

> Revision:      = ;    05

> Title:      &n= bsp;           Residence = Time Measurement in MPLS network

> Document date:     =       2016-03-15

> Group:      &n= bsp;            = ;           mpls

> Pages:      &n= bsp;            = ;            26=

> URL:      &nbs= p;     https://www.ietf.org/= internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt=

> Status:      &= nbsp;  https://datatracker.i= etf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time/

> Htmlized:      = ; https://tools.ietf.or= g/html/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05

> Diff:      &nb= sp;    https://www.ietf.org/= rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05

> 

> Abstract:

>    This document specifies G-= ACh based Residence Time Measurement and

>    how it can be used by time= synchronization protocols being

>    transported over MPLS doma= in.

> 

>    Residence time is the vari= able part of propagation delay of timing

>    and synchronization messag= es and knowing what this delay is for each

>    message allows for a more = accurate determination of the delay to be

>    taken into account in appl= ying the value included in a PTP event

>    message.

> 

>       &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;            =             

> 

> 

> Please note that it may take a couple of min= utes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are av= ailable at tools.ietf.org.

> 

> The IETF Secretariat

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--_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A0D5ACeusaamb103erics_-- From nobody Tue Mar 15 16:56:14 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5709512DE6B; Tue, 15 Mar 2016 16:56:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.16.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160315235613.22774.45860.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 16:56:13 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-opportunistic-encrypt-01.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 23:56:13 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Opportunistic Security in MPLS Networks Authors : Adrian Farrel Stephen Farrell Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-opportunistic-encrypt-01.txt Pages : 37 Date : 2016-03-15 Abstract: This document describes a way to apply opportunistic security between adjacent nodes on an MPLS Label Switched Path (LSP) or between end points of an LSP. It explains how keys may be agreed to enable encryption, and how key identifiers are exchanged in encrypted MPLS packets. Finally, this document describes the applicability of this approach to opportunistic security in MPLS networks with an indication of the level of improved security as well as the continued vulnerabilities. This document does not describe security for MPLS control plane protocols. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-opportunistic-encrypt/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-opportunistic-encrypt-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-opportunistic-encrypt-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Mar 15 16:59:44 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B1D12D7ED for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2016 16:59:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.62 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.62 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5Ed2gJON52R5 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2016 16:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C94D712D648 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2016 16:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u2FNxauq030325; Tue, 15 Mar 2016 23:59:36 GMT Received: from 950129200 ([66.129.246.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u2FNxX1b030313 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Mar 2016 23:59:35 GMT From: "Adrian Farrel" To: References: <20160315235613.22774.45860.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20160315235613.22774.45860.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 23:59:32 -0000 Message-ID: <018701d17f16$b9742620$2c5c7260$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJf2FMeR/Kpeq3c4Dg4j4GBkGwrtp4+fAQA Content-Language: en-gb X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1679-8.0.0.1202-22196.003 X-TM-AS-Result: No--16.310-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--16.310-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: UuaOI1zLN1jMi6swfqIoFPSG/+sPtZVkNQJ9VZNJj05U4V1pMvNQR1ce Q73TEOmdPwJ2AiKKqJELvXcIs+AbZSXnPeRhjUhB8eSmTJSmEv1R3sGN+j7mNAmvtxE5nD8S9kZ 14G/bCrQhbOahTKQ9CIhKV5n/9uUN94K/U9yoT94Is18ZTh19+BkqnRJng/51azG2pCTfDnnQhJ skFKgIw2EnlnKqfWhLEbTaN9t6T44q2g1GUWpWR4FufylzN+m+mdrHMkUHHq8EyNi/x99BVRUv9 fhgeasG86pQMWfIIwUGMk4xUJf2Co4a2rhHAtuZvHKClHGjjr0hmbYg1ZcOnmTYnZ5/c13f9Os/ l7x5zsG36h2hK5rvdpGTpe1iiCJqtD9qpBlNF8rAuFFGa+JUhfoA9r2LThYYKrauXd3MZDWM80y xUZ7Lx6t9DrsnvblwlRmSPwEltil+nPBZlnZzp5drBJ2uxmui Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-opportunistic-encrypt-01.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 23:59:42 -0000 WG, The updates here are: - oops we let the I-D expire - I moved over to XML and that changed a little formatting - I fixed nits and spelling - a few nearly-trivial tweaks The status is that we continue to discuss some of the mechanisms and hunt prototypers. Anyone looking for an openvswitch project? Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- > drafts@ietf.org > Sent: 15 March 2016 23:56 > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: mpls@ietf.org > Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-opportunistic-encrypt-01.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. > > Title : Opportunistic Security in MPLS Networks > Authors : Adrian Farrel > Stephen Farrell > Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-opportunistic-encrypt-01.txt > Pages : 37 > Date : 2016-03-15 > > Abstract: > This document describes a way to apply opportunistic security between > adjacent nodes on an MPLS Label Switched Path (LSP) or between end > points of an LSP. It explains how keys may be agreed to enable > encryption, and how key identifiers are exchanged in encrypted MPLS > packets. Finally, this document describes the applicability of this > approach to opportunistic security in MPLS networks with an > indication of the level of improved security as well as the continued > vulnerabilities. > > This document does not describe security for MPLS control plane > protocols. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-opportunistic-encrypt/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-opportunistic-encrypt-01 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-opportunistic-encrypt-01 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Wed Mar 16 05:30:11 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4CC12D69B for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 05:30:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id amKLVHXhIBag for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 05:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 116D612D791 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 05:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16131 invoked by uid 0); 16 Mar 2016 12:29:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2016 12:29:59 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw3 with id WjVj1s00a2SSUrH01jVmH3; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 13:29:56 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Maz/5fPf c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=-NfooI8aBGcA:10 a=uEJ9t1CZtbIA:10 a=7OsogOcEt9IA:10 a=0FD05c-RAAAA:8 a=wU2YTnxGAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=bu8SBMSyS-Fzm1LDTDgA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:Cc:References:To:Subject:From; bh=Rlj7XuKLcjKsjTUNjlnokF9cqXIDr+LJs1+9woRw0lg=; b=RhEvuQNnLDQthyhqxqXEWquAgn mUrPjO1xisTrHCgPPcPq66uLLNUJWdhgY2w+mAinSA3PTBgpudQUjHagjZP8qz4bwBoSFsVwUysYi cEokXjb18vFFYxBktWTUTzfCq; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:50678 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1agAaA-0006Nw-KM; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 06:29:46 -0600 From: Lou Berger To: Gregory Mirsky , Loa Andersson , mpls-chairs@ietf.org References: <20160315210754.7666.49708.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A0D437@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> <56E88F6B.8010506@labn.net> <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A0D5AC@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> Message-ID: <56E951B5.2050803@labn.net> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 08:29:41 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A0D5AC@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org, TEAS WG Subject: Re: [mpls] [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:30:10 -0000 Greg, Thanks for the response. See below. On March 15, 2016 6:56:34 PM Gregory Mirsky wrote: > Hi Lou, > > thank you for the most detailed comments. Please find my notes in-line > tagged GIM>>. > > > > Regards, > > Greg > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 3:41 PM > To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org > Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG > Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for > draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > > > > > > Greg, > > > > On 3/15/2016 5:13 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: > > > Hi, > > > this version primarily addresses comments related to the proposed > extensions to RSVP-TE and operation of the control plane in support of > Residence Time Measurement. Would appreciate the confirmation from Lou. > > > > I don't think I saw a response to: > > > I think this doesn't always work, e.g., when RRO is modified due to > > > policy or limited due to size constraints. This has to be addressed. > > > I can see how to easily detect this situation, but not how to get the > > > number of non-supporting hops. I guess it's always possible to play > > > ttl comparison games, but that's pretty ugly too. Any thoughts? > > GIM>> The following text in Section 4.7 intended to handle the > situation you’ve described: > > If the node cannot find matching ID in RRO, > > then it MUST try to use ID of the next node in the RTM_SET until it > > finds the match or reaches the end of RTM_SET TLV. If match have > > been found, then the calculated value is used by the node as TTL > > value in outgoing label to reach the next RTM capable node on the > > LSP. Otherwise, the TTL value MUST be set to 255. > > In essence, the node tries to locate the closest to it downstream > RTM-capable node. Otherwise, it sets TTL to 255 so that the RTM > packets arrive at egress LER. > So this doesn't cover the case where there are holes in the RRO -- which I think then translates to RTM black holes. Also not covered is what happens during Resv processing if there is no room (or a policy) against adding local information. Perhaps it would just be better to add a section that explicitly states that the defined mechanism only works in cases where full RRO is supported (i.e., where RRO is not limited due to size constraints or otherwise impacted due to policy)? -- not saying I like this, I just think it fills the open gaps in the spec - but at the price of limiting applicability. I haven't spent too much time thinking about this so there may be a better solution out there. Lou > > > Parts of Sections 4.6 and 4.7 are a bit rough and could stand a reread > and editorial pass. > > GIM>> I’m trying. > > > > Section 4.7 says PathErr messages are sent in response to Resv > processing error. This is clearly wrong. > > GIM>> Great catch! I’m ready to update to ResvErr in -06. > > > > Lou > > > > > Authors always welcome comments and questions about RTM. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Greg > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:08 PM > > > To: Alexander Vainshtein; Gregory Mirsky; Stefano Ruffini; John Drake; > > > Sasha Vainshtein; Eric Gray; Stewart Bryant; Eric Gray > > > Subject: New Version Notification for > > > draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > > > > > > > > > A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > > > has been successfully submitted by Greg Mirsky and posted to the > IETF repository. > > > > > > Name: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time > > > Revision: 05 > > > Title: Residence Time Measurement in MPLS network > > > Document date: 2016-03-15 > > > Group: mpls > > > Pages: 26 > > > URL: > https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > > > Status: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time/ > > > Htmlized: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 > > > Diff: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 > > > > > > Abstract: > > > This document specifies G-ACh based Residence Time Measurement and > > > how it can be used by time synchronization protocols being > > > transported over MPLS domain. > > > > > > Residence time is the variable part of propagation delay of timing > > > and synchronization messages and knowing what this delay is for each > > > message allows for a more accurate determination of the delay to be > > > taken into account in applying the value included in a PTP event > > > message. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at > tools.ietf.org. > > > > > > The IETF Secretariat > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Teas mailing list > > > Teas@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > From nobody Wed Mar 16 07:15:33 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA3012D591; 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Wed, 16 Mar 2016 10:15:24 -0400 From: Gregory Mirsky To: Lou Berger , Loa Andersson , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt Thread-Index: AQHRfv7AabajoYyQ8ESTiHRUKGeJAJ9a/5YwgABc5ID//77vIIABKK6A///XwlA= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:15:24 +0000 Message-ID: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A0DE4E@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> References: <20160315210754.7666.49708.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A0D437@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> <56E88F6B.8010506@labn.net> <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A0D5AC@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> <56E951B5.2050803@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <56E951B5.2050803@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.11] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprIIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXSPn65f6sswg3/3BS06mt+yWPybO4fZ Yt3lU2wWt5auZLVo/bGDxYHVY8mSn0weHzY1s3nMmt7GFsAcxWWTkpqTWZZapG+XwJWx+ONd 9oLbphXr9v5kbmB8q97FyMkhIWAi8e35IxYIW0ziwr31bF2MXBxCAkcYJU5/WMME4SxnlDh+ 5QozSBWbgJHEi4097CC2iECuxK21V1hBbGYBG4mjx4+CTRIWiJF49KoRqiZW4tyLuYwQtp9E 1/GHYHEWAVWJB6emgdm8Ar4Sc87fZIVY1sIkcWHhIbChnAIaEkd/PWICsRmBzvt+ag0TxDJx iVtP5jNBnC0gsWTPeWYIW1Ti5eN/rBC2ksTH3/PZIep1JBbs/sQGYWtLLFv4mhlisaDEyZlP WCYwis1CMnYWkpZZSFpmIWlZwMiyipGjtLggJzfdyGATIzCijkmw6e5gvD/d8xCjAAejEg/v hugXYUKsiWXFlbmHGCU4mJVEeL0yX4YJ8aYkVlalFuXHF5XmpBYfYpTmYFES513/9nKYkEB6 YklqdmpqQWoRTJaJg1OqgXF+wawN3b7covpT1hWHpHgV6IU3GM8pKBYoc37/MP7gmYaK4tds zZ9yhB60/DzZ+/1Q5bpTnQI1Qswc6yz/rnmRLDbXltVu6XmmkgR9pR/x60JadFL/rEuWrhQ9 yPDFaSbb5Ao7SdfqbyvfL/36Y8XTP/cPVHN+MV9jYBp2cd/LL56vVYJq+JRYijMSDbWYi4oT AeECoemkAgAA Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , TEAS WG Subject: Re: [mpls] [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:15:30 -0000 Hi Lou, thank you for the detailed explanation of the case. I agree that there coul= d be other ways to handle it from what been described in the document. If a= node ID of the first node in the RTM_SET TLV is not found in the RRO list,= then the TTL will be set to 255 and packet will not be processed by interm= ediate RTM-capable nodes but arrive at LSP egress LSR. Thus not all RTM cap= able nodes will be accounted for in the Scratch Pad but still some nodes ma= y. I'll add some text to highlight this case. Regards, Greg -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 5:30 AM To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-reside= nce-time-05.txt Greg, Thanks for the response. See below. On March 15, 2016 6:56:34 PM Gregory Mirsky w= rote: > Hi Lou, > > thank you for the most detailed comments. Please find my notes in-line=20 > tagged GIM>>. > > =20 > > Regards, > > Greg > > =20 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 3:41 PM > To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org > Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG > Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for=20 > draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > > =20 > > =20 > > Greg, > > =20 > > On 3/15/2016 5:13 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: > > > Hi, > > > this version primarily addresses comments related to the proposed > extensions to RSVP-TE and operation of the control plane in support of=20 > Residence Time Measurement. Would appreciate the confirmation from Lou. > > =20 > > I don't think I saw a response to: > > > I think this doesn't always work, e.g., when RRO is modified due to > > > policy or limited due to size constraints. This has to be addressed.=20 > > > I can see how to easily detect this situation, but not how to get=20 > > the > > > number of non-supporting hops. I guess it's always possible to play > > > ttl comparison games, but that's pretty ugly too. Any thoughts? > > GIM>> The following text in Section 4.7 intended to handle the > situation you've described: > > If the node cannot find matching ID in RRO, > > then it MUST try to use ID of the next node in the RTM_SET until it > > finds the match or reaches the end of RTM_SET TLV. If match have > > been found, then the calculated value is used by the node as TTL > > value in outgoing label to reach the next RTM capable node on the > > LSP. Otherwise, the TTL value MUST be set to 255. > > In essence, the node tries to locate the closest to it downstream=20 > RTM-capable node. Otherwise, it sets TTL to 255 so that the RTM=20 > packets arrive at egress LER. > So this doesn't cover the case where there are holes in the RRO -- which I = think then translates to RTM black holes. Also not covered is what happens= during Resv processing if there is no room (or a policy) against adding lo= cal information. Perhaps it would just be better to add a section that explicitly states tha= t the defined mechanism only works in cases where full RRO is supported (i= .e., where RRO is not limited due to size constraints or otherwise impacted= due to policy)? -- not saying I like this, I just think it fills the open = gaps in the spec - but at the price of limiting applicability. I haven't s= pent too much time thinking about this so there may be a better solution ou= t there. Lou > =20 > > Parts of Sections 4.6 and 4.7 are a bit rough and could stand a reread=20 > and editorial pass. > > GIM>> I'm trying. > > =20 > > Section 4.7 says PathErr messages are sent in response to Resv=20 > processing error. This is clearly wrong. > > GIM>> Great catch! I'm ready to update to ResvErr in -06. > > =20 > > Lou > > =20 > > > Authors always welcome comments and questions about RTM. > > >=20 > > > Regards, > > > Greg > > >=20 > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:08 PM > > > To: Alexander Vainshtein; Gregory Mirsky; Stefano Ruffini; John=20 > > Drake; > > > Sasha Vainshtein; Eric Gray; Stewart Bryant; Eric Gray > > > Subject: New Version Notification for > > > draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > > > has been successfully submitted by Greg Mirsky and posted to the > IETF repository. > > >=20 > > > Name: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time > > > Revision: 05 > > > Title: Residence Time Measurement in MPLS network > > > Document date: 2016-03-15 > > > Group: mpls > > > Pages: 26 > > > URL: =20 > https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 > .txt > > > Status: =20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time/ > > > Htmlized: =20 > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 > > > Diff: =20 > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 > > >=20 > > > Abstract: > > > This document specifies G-ACh based Residence Time Measurement=20 > > and > > > how it can be used by time synchronization protocols being > > > transported over MPLS domain. > > >=20 > > > Residence time is the variable part of propagation delay of=20 > > timing > > > and synchronization messages and knowing what this delay is for=20 > > each > > > message allows for a more accurate determination of the delay to=20 > > be > > > taken into account in applying the value included in a PTP event > > > message. > > >=20 > > > = =20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at=20 > tools.ietf.org. > > >=20 > > > The IETF Secretariat > > >=20 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Teas mailing list > > > Teas@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > >=20 > > =20 > > =20 > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org =20 > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > From nobody Wed Mar 16 07:19:13 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F254A12D89F for ; 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WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A0DE4E@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , TEAS WG Subject: Re: [mpls] [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:19:12 -0000 Greg, What happens when some information is removed from an RRO due to policy processing (e.g., as may happen between providers). Couldn't the TTL calculation some up too small if the wrong SOs are removed, and wouldn't this result in a black hole of actual RTM messages? How do you cover this case? Thanks, Lou On 3/16/2016 10:15 AM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: > Hi Lou, > thank you for the detailed explanation of the case. I agree that there could be other ways to handle it from what been described in the document. If a node ID of the first node in the RTM_SET TLV is not found in the RRO list, then the TTL will be set to 255 and packet will not be processed by intermediate RTM-capable nodes but arrive at LSP egress LSR. Thus not all RTM capable nodes will be accounted for in the Scratch Pad but still some nodes may. I'll add some text to highlight this case. > > Regards, > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 5:30 AM > To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org > Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG > Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > > Greg, > > Thanks for the response. See below. > > On March 15, 2016 6:56:34 PM Gregory Mirsky wrote: > >> Hi Lou, >> >> thank you for the most detailed comments. Please find my notes in-line >> tagged GIM>>. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Greg >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 3:41 PM >> To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org >> Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG >> Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for >> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >> >> >> >> >> >> Greg, >> >> >> >> On 3/15/2016 5:13 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> this version primarily addresses comments related to the proposed >> extensions to RSVP-TE and operation of the control plane in support of >> Residence Time Measurement. Would appreciate the confirmation from Lou. >> >> >> >> I don't think I saw a response to: >> >>> I think this doesn't always work, e.g., when RRO is modified due to >>> policy or limited due to size constraints. This has to be addressed. >>> I can see how to easily detect this situation, but not how to get >>> the >>> number of non-supporting hops. I guess it's always possible to play >>> ttl comparison games, but that's pretty ugly too. Any thoughts? >> GIM>> The following text in Section 4.7 intended to handle the >> situation you've described: >> >> If the node cannot find matching ID in RRO, >> >> then it MUST try to use ID of the next node in the RTM_SET until it >> >> finds the match or reaches the end of RTM_SET TLV. If match have >> >> been found, then the calculated value is used by the node as TTL >> >> value in outgoing label to reach the next RTM capable node on the >> >> LSP. Otherwise, the TTL value MUST be set to 255. >> >> In essence, the node tries to locate the closest to it downstream >> RTM-capable node. Otherwise, it sets TTL to 255 so that the RTM >> packets arrive at egress LER. >> > So this doesn't cover the case where there are holes in the RRO -- which I think then translates to RTM black holes. Also not covered is what happens during Resv processing if there is no room (or a policy) against adding local information. > > Perhaps it would just be better to add a section that explicitly states that the defined mechanism only works in cases where full RRO is supported (i.e., where RRO is not limited due to size constraints or otherwise impacted due to policy)? -- not saying I like this, I just think it fills the open gaps in the spec - but at the price of limiting applicability. I haven't spent too much time thinking about this so there may be a better solution out there. > > Lou > >> >> >> Parts of Sections 4.6 and 4.7 are a bit rough and could stand a reread >> and editorial pass. >> >> GIM>> I'm trying. >> >> >> >> Section 4.7 says PathErr messages are sent in response to Resv >> processing error. This is clearly wrong. >> >> GIM>> Great catch! I'm ready to update to ResvErr in -06. >> >> >> >> Lou >> >> >> >>> Authors always welcome comments and questions about RTM. >>> Regards, >>> Greg >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >> [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:08 PM >>> To: Alexander Vainshtein; Gregory Mirsky; Stefano Ruffini; John >>> Drake; >>> Sasha Vainshtein; Eric Gray; Stewart Bryant; Eric Gray >>> Subject: New Version Notification for >>> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>> A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>> has been successfully submitted by Greg Mirsky and posted to the >> IETF repository. >> >>> Name: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time >>> Revision: 05 >>> Title: Residence Time Measurement in MPLS network >>> Document date: 2016-03-15 >>> Group: mpls >>> Pages: 26 >>> URL: >> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >> .txt >> >>> Status: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time/ >> >>> Htmlized: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >> >>> Diff: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >> >>> Abstract: >>> This document specifies G-ACh based Residence Time Measurement >>> and >>> how it can be used by time synchronization protocols being >>> transported over MPLS domain. >>> Residence time is the variable part of propagation delay of >>> timing >>> and synchronization messages and knowing what this delay is for >>> each >>> message allows for a more accurate determination of the delay to >>> be >>> taken into account in applying the value included in a PTP event >>> message. >>> >> >>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at >> tools.ietf.org. >> >>> The IETF Secretariat >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Teas mailing list >>> Teas@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Teas mailing list >> Teas@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >> > From nobody Wed Mar 16 07:23:52 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F90F12D97D; 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Wed, 16 Mar 2016 10:23:42 -0400 From: Gregory Mirsky To: Lou Berger , Loa Andersson , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt Thread-Index: AQHRfv7AabajoYyQ8ESTiHRUKGeJAJ9a/5YwgABc5ID//77vIIABKK6A///XwlCAAEa4AP//vUBw Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:23:40 +0000 Message-ID: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A0DEE8@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> References: <20160315210754.7666.49708.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A0D437@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> <56E88F6B.8010506@labn.net> <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A0D5AC@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> <56E951B5.2050803@labn.net> <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A0DE4E@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> <56E96B46.1060706@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <56E96B46.1060706@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.11] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFuplkeLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42KZXLonQdc+/WWYQdNFJYuO5rcsFv/mzmG2 WHf5FJvFraUrWS1af+xgcWD1WLLkJ5PHh03NbB6zprexBTBHcdmkpOZklqUW6dslcGVsnjOH veChTcWraZeZGxiv6XUxcnBICJhIzFxb2cXICWSKSVy4t56ti5GLQ0jgCKNE/45zLBDOckaJ XR/2soBUsQkYSbzY2MMOYosI5ErcWnuFFcRmFrCROHr8KFiNsECMxKNXjVA1sRLnXsxlBFkm IhAlcWypLIjJIqAqseRhMYjJK+Ar8f+zCMSmZ0wSy7ZvAZvCKaAhsXFOFxuIzQh02/dTa5gg NolL3HoynwniZgGJJXvOM0PYohIvH/9jhbCVJD7+ns8OUa8jsWD3JzYIW1ti2cLXYPW8AoIS J2c+YZnAKDYLydhZSFpmIWmZhaRlASPLKkaO0uKCnNx0I4NNjMBIOibBpruD8f50z0OMAhyM Sjy8G6JfhAmxJpYVV+YeYpTgYFYS4dXOfhkmxJuSWFmVWpQfX1Sak1p8iFGag0VJnHf928th QgLpiSWp2ampBalFMFkmDk6pBsaCFN43R1evN9m462C27GXbFTaPuWyPSq3S1ZMwS7pgHR1Z /uhrU/yt2QoZVckvN65s3f6eaaLakqJa2fNr1t28t/OdvtZCM955Oxy53n2s29P4O+DcU0X7 qlzPzV9qC2NnJc5tiNzz4YiQyHvhTQ/6FrLLi0oqd59+77+/qsI+cY7vIscuUxUlluKMREMt 5qLiRADaYNM4oAIAAA== Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , TEAS WG Subject: Re: [mpls] [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:23:49 -0000 Hi Lou, if node A is on RTM_SET TLV but not in RRO, then its first upstream RTM-cap= able node, e.g. node B, would set TTL to 255 according to the text. Thus th= ere will be no RTM processing downstream of node B and all packets will be = arriving at the egress LER in RTM encapsulation. Regards, Greg -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 7:19 AM To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-reside= nce-time-05.txt Greg, What happens when some information is removed from an RRO due to policy= processing (e.g., as may happen between providers). Couldn't the TTL calc= ulation some up too small if the wrong SOs are removed, and wouldn't this r= esult in a black hole of actual RTM messages? How do you cover this case? Thanks, Lou On 3/16/2016 10:15 AM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: > Hi Lou, > thank you for the detailed explanation of the case. I agree that there co= uld be other ways to handle it from what been described in the document. If= a node ID of the first node in the RTM_SET TLV is not found in the RRO lis= t, then the TTL will be set to 255 and packet will not be processed by inte= rmediate RTM-capable nodes but arrive at LSP egress LSR. Thus not all RTM c= apable nodes will be accounted for in the Scratch Pad but still some nodes = may. I'll add some text to highlight this case. > > Regards, > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 5:30 AM > To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org > Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG > Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for=20 > draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > > Greg, > > Thanks for the response. See below. > > On March 15, 2016 6:56:34 PM Gregory Mirsky = wrote: > >> Hi Lou, >> >> thank you for the most detailed comments. Please find my notes=20 >> in-line tagged GIM>>. >> >> =20 >> >> Regards, >> >> Greg >> >> =20 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 3:41 PM >> To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org >> Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG >> Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for=20 >> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >> >> =20 >> >> =20 >> >> Greg, >> >> =20 >> >> On 3/15/2016 5:13 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> this version primarily addresses comments related to the proposed >> extensions to RSVP-TE and operation of the control plane in support=20 >> of Residence Time Measurement. Would appreciate the confirmation from Lo= u. >> >> =20 >> >> I don't think I saw a response to: >> >>> I think this doesn't always work, e.g., when RRO is modified due to=20 >>> policy or limited due to size constraints. This has to be addressed. >>> I can see how to easily detect this situation, but not how to get=20 >>> the number of non-supporting hops. I guess it's always possible to=20 >>> play ttl comparison games, but that's pretty ugly too. Any=20 >>> thoughts? >> GIM>> The following text in Section 4.7 intended to handle the >> situation you've described: >> >> If the node cannot find matching ID in RRO, >> >> then it MUST try to use ID of the next node in the RTM_SET until=20 >> it >> >> finds the match or reaches the end of RTM_SET TLV. If match have >> >> been found, then the calculated value is used by the node as TTL >> >> value in outgoing label to reach the next RTM capable node on the >> >> LSP. Otherwise, the TTL value MUST be set to 255. >> >> In essence, the node tries to locate the closest to it downstream=20 >> RTM-capable node. Otherwise, it sets TTL to 255 so that the RTM=20 >> packets arrive at egress LER. >> > So this doesn't cover the case where there are holes in the RRO -- which = I think then translates to RTM black holes. Also not covered is what happe= ns during Resv processing if there is no room (or a policy) against adding = local information. > > Perhaps it would just be better to add a section that explicitly states t= hat the defined mechanism only works in cases where full RRO is supported = (i.e., where RRO is not limited due to size constraints or otherwise impact= ed due to policy)? -- not saying I like this, I just think it fills the ope= n gaps in the spec - but at the price of limiting applicability. I haven't= spent too much time thinking about this so there may be a better solution = out there. > > Lou > >> =20 >> >> Parts of Sections 4.6 and 4.7 are a bit rough and could stand a=20 >> reread and editorial pass. >> >> GIM>> I'm trying. >> >> =20 >> >> Section 4.7 says PathErr messages are sent in response to Resv=20 >> processing error. This is clearly wrong. >> >> GIM>> Great catch! I'm ready to update to ResvErr in -06. >> >> =20 >> >> Lou >> >> =20 >> >>> Authors always welcome comments and questions about RTM. >>> Regards, >>> Greg >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >> [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:08 PM >>> To: Alexander Vainshtein; Gregory Mirsky; Stefano Ruffini; John=20 >>> Drake; Sasha Vainshtein; Eric Gray; Stewart Bryant; Eric Gray >>> Subject: New Version Notification for=20 >>> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>> A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>> has been successfully submitted by Greg Mirsky and posted to the >> IETF repository. >> >>> Name: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time >>> Revision: 05 >>> Title: Residence Time Measurement in MPLS network >>> Document date: 2016-03-15 >>> Group: mpls >>> Pages: 26 >>> URL: =20 >> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >> .txt >> >>> Status: =20 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time/ >> >>> Htmlized: =20 >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >> >>> Diff: =20 >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >> >>> Abstract: >>> This document specifies G-ACh based Residence Time Measurement=20 >>> and >>> how it can be used by time synchronization protocols being >>> transported over MPLS domain. >>> Residence time is the variable part of propagation delay of=20 >>> timing >>> and synchronization messages and knowing what this delay is for=20 >>> each >>> message allows for a more accurate determination of the delay to=20 >>> be >>> taken into account in applying the value included in a PTP event >>> message. >>> = =20 >> >>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at=20 >> tools.ietf.org. >> >>> The IETF Secretariat >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Teas mailing list >>> Teas@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >> =20 >> >> =20 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Teas mailing list >> Teas@ietf.org =20 >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >> > From nobody Wed Mar 16 09:35:02 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C65F12D768 for ; 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[58.27.222.26]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 74sm4238307wmn.17.2016.03.16.09.34.50 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 16 Mar 2016 09:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Daniel King X-Google-Original-Sender: "Daniel King" From: To: "'Loa Andersson'" , , References: <56E6DD2F.7090000@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <56E6DD2F.7090000@pi.nu> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 21:34:55 +0500 Message-ID: <009b01d17fa1$c7e83080$57b89180$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQIuobweYtFhS4pe2epcga/vGU82Ap6h/9ew Content-Language: en-gb Archived-At: Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 16:34:59 -0000 Hi Loa, all.=20 No, I am not aware of any IPR related to this work.=20 BR, Dan.=20 -----Original Message----- From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu]=20 Sent: 14 March 2016 20:48 To: mpls@ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib@ietf.org Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Tarek Saad (tsaad) Subject: IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib Working Group, The authors of draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib has told us that = the document is ready to be considered for working group last call. 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Such changes affect the core assumption of the method to control processing of RTM packets. RTM SHOULD NOT be used if it is not guaranteed that RRO contains complete information. Hope that would address your concern with potential blackholed RTM packets. Regards, Greg -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 7:19 AM To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-reside= nce-time-05.txt Greg, What happens when some information is removed from an RRO due to policy= processing (e.g., as may happen between providers). Couldn't the TTL calc= ulation some up too small if the wrong SOs are removed, and wouldn't this r= esult in a black hole of actual RTM messages? How do you cover this case? Thanks, Lou On 3/16/2016 10:15 AM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: > Hi Lou, > thank you for the detailed explanation of the case. I agree that there co= uld be other ways to handle it from what been described in the document. If= a node ID of the first node in the RTM_SET TLV is not found in the RRO lis= t, then the TTL will be set to 255 and packet will not be processed by inte= rmediate RTM-capable nodes but arrive at LSP egress LSR. Thus not all RTM c= apable nodes will be accounted for in the Scratch Pad but still some nodes = may. I'll add some text to highlight this case. > > Regards, > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 5:30 AM > To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org > Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG > Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for=20 > draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > > Greg, > > Thanks for the response. See below. > > On March 15, 2016 6:56:34 PM Gregory Mirsky = wrote: > >> Hi Lou, >> >> thank you for the most detailed comments. Please find my notes=20 >> in-line tagged GIM>>. >> >> =20 >> >> Regards, >> >> Greg >> >> =20 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 3:41 PM >> To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org >> Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG >> Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for=20 >> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >> >> =20 >> >> =20 >> >> Greg, >> >> =20 >> >> On 3/15/2016 5:13 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> this version primarily addresses comments related to the proposed >> extensions to RSVP-TE and operation of the control plane in support=20 >> of Residence Time Measurement. Would appreciate the confirmation from Lo= u. >> >> =20 >> >> I don't think I saw a response to: >> >>> I think this doesn't always work, e.g., when RRO is modified due to=20 >>> policy or limited due to size constraints. This has to be addressed. >>> I can see how to easily detect this situation, but not how to get=20 >>> the number of non-supporting hops. I guess it's always possible to=20 >>> play ttl comparison games, but that's pretty ugly too. Any=20 >>> thoughts? >> GIM>> The following text in Section 4.7 intended to handle the >> situation you've described: >> >> If the node cannot find matching ID in RRO, >> >> then it MUST try to use ID of the next node in the RTM_SET until=20 >> it >> >> finds the match or reaches the end of RTM_SET TLV. If match have >> >> been found, then the calculated value is used by the node as TTL >> >> value in outgoing label to reach the next RTM capable node on the >> >> LSP. Otherwise, the TTL value MUST be set to 255. >> >> In essence, the node tries to locate the closest to it downstream=20 >> RTM-capable node. Otherwise, it sets TTL to 255 so that the RTM=20 >> packets arrive at egress LER. >> > So this doesn't cover the case where there are holes in the RRO -- which = I think then translates to RTM black holes. Also not covered is what happe= ns during Resv processing if there is no room (or a policy) against adding = local information. > > Perhaps it would just be better to add a section that explicitly states t= hat the defined mechanism only works in cases where full RRO is supported = (i.e., where RRO is not limited due to size constraints or otherwise impact= ed due to policy)? -- not saying I like this, I just think it fills the ope= n gaps in the spec - but at the price of limiting applicability. I haven't= spent too much time thinking about this so there may be a better solution = out there. > > Lou > >> =20 >> >> Parts of Sections 4.6 and 4.7 are a bit rough and could stand a=20 >> reread and editorial pass. >> >> GIM>> I'm trying. >> >> =20 >> >> Section 4.7 says PathErr messages are sent in response to Resv=20 >> processing error. This is clearly wrong. >> >> GIM>> Great catch! I'm ready to update to ResvErr in -06. >> >> =20 >> >> Lou >> >> =20 >> >>> Authors always welcome comments and questions about RTM. >>> Regards, >>> Greg >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >> [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:08 PM >>> To: Alexander Vainshtein; Gregory Mirsky; Stefano Ruffini; John=20 >>> Drake; Sasha Vainshtein; Eric Gray; Stewart Bryant; Eric Gray >>> Subject: New Version Notification for=20 >>> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>> A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>> has been successfully submitted by Greg Mirsky and posted to the >> IETF repository. >> >>> Name: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time >>> Revision: 05 >>> Title: Residence Time Measurement in MPLS network >>> Document date: 2016-03-15 >>> Group: mpls >>> Pages: 26 >>> URL: =20 >> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >> .txt >> >>> Status: =20 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time/ >> >>> Htmlized: =20 >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >> >>> Diff: =20 >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >> >>> Abstract: >>> This document specifies G-ACh based Residence Time Measurement=20 >>> and >>> how it can be used by time synchronization protocols being >>> transported over MPLS domain. >>> Residence time is the variable part of propagation delay of=20 >>> timing >>> and synchronization messages and knowing what this delay is for=20 >>> each >>> message allows for a more accurate determination of the delay to=20 >>> be >>> taken into account in applying the value included in a PTP event >>> message. >>> = =20 >> >>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at=20 >> tools.ietf.org. >> >>> The IETF Secretariat >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Teas mailing list >>> Teas@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >> =20 >> >> =20 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Teas mailing list >> Teas@ietf.org =20 >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >> > From nobody Thu Mar 17 09:20:42 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED9B12DC35; 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Thu, 17 Mar 2016 16:20:11 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 11:20:10 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 11:20:10 -0500 From: "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" To: "TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org)" , "pce@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Agenda requests for joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS Yang session Thread-Index: AdF5dAnVP29i6/2LQUaQgiphMngjfgFWEyfQAGceOZA= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 16:20:10 +0000 Message-ID: <59f547ca7b20478f9be142b2db3f9502@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> References: <29ff71e4b7724c118fdd2122ed03a264@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [161.44.212.180] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "Matt Hartley \(mhartley\)" , "teas-chairs@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "pce-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] Agenda requests for joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS Yang session X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 16:20:37 -0000 All, Final reminder. Deadline for requests is tomorrow. Cheers Matt > All, >=20 > A reminder: deadline for slot requests is Friday. >=20 > Cheers >=20 > Matt >=20 > > All, > > > > On the agenda for Buenos Aires, we have a session on Tuesday April > > 5th, > > 17:30 - 19:00 in Atlantico B. This is currently listed as a TEAS > > meeting, but is intended as a joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS meeting for the > > discussion of Yang models. > > > > If you'd like a slot to present a Yang draft in Buenos Aires, please > > send a request to me and the WG chairs by Friday March 18th. Please > > note the dates below; in particular, the deadline for draft submission > > is UTC 23:59 on March 21st. > > > > We'll need slides for presentation by Friday, April 1st. Again, please > > send to me and the Chairs. > > > > Cheers > > > > Matt From nobody Thu Mar 17 09:32:44 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A865A12D5BB; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 09:32:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.522 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D55L_AGvTwEX; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 09:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-1.cisco.com (alln-iport-1.cisco.com [173.37.142.88]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6A4512D9B8; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 09:32:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1204; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1458232332; x=1459441932; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=RwgTIbFoNHFbetRmAyBSIVJXyXPWH0+7RPTeBDu8dzk=; b=J6WbJupoZWX2a9nU4L6T3dh15OKEFsOgNIxgDBXb9jXg6UUL6806mySE 7E8HQexkWfJ2/p2DByWR1xdM/+Cc3aWeQEZ47jSVRbzAUtW9SndrzCFx+ jARcghjzlN6Ku67qpkqH7xm5s7hcGaNFn9CRsrWH/JXsfEqw5TCRQcn5u Y=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0ADAgDQ2+pW/5tdJa1eg0WBQQa3cIIPA?= =?us-ascii?q?Q2Bb4YNAoE2OBQBAQEBAQEBZCeEQgEBBHkQAgEIRjIlAQEEAQ0FiCfBBAEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBARWGHoREiHYBBI1ziWEBjgCBZYRJiFiPAgEeAQFCg?= =?us-ascii?q?2VqiWV+AQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,350,1454976000"; d="scan'208";a="250673593" Received: from rcdn-core-4.cisco.com ([173.37.93.155]) by alln-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 17 Mar 2016 16:31:51 +0000 Received: from XCH-RTP-001.cisco.com (xch-rtp-001.cisco.com [64.101.220.141]) by rcdn-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u2HGVp43008462 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 17 Mar 2016 16:31:51 GMT Received: from xch-rtp-001.cisco.com (64.101.220.141) by XCH-RTP-001.cisco.com (64.101.220.141) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 12:31:50 -0400 Received: from xch-rtp-001.cisco.com ([64.101.220.141]) by XCH-RTP-001.cisco.com ([64.101.220.141]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 12:31:50 -0400 From: "Tarek Saad (tsaad)" To: "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" , "TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org)" , "pce@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Agenda requests for joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS Yang session Thread-Index: AdF5dAnVP29i6/2LQUaQgiphMngjfgFWEyfQAGceOZAAAGxsgA== Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 16:31:50 +0000 Message-ID: References: <29ff71e4b7724c118fdd2122ed03a264@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> <59f547ca7b20478f9be142b2db3f9502@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <59f547ca7b20478f9be142b2db3f9502@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.7.151005 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.82.244.85] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "teas-chairs@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "pce-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] Agenda requests for joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS Yang session X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 16:32:31 -0000 Hi Matt, We=B9d like to ask for a 10-15mins slot to present the updates for TE and RSVP YANG models in the joint yang session. for drafts:=20 draft-ietf-teas-yang-te draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp Regards, Tarek On 2016-03-17, 12:20 PM, "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" wrote: >All, > >Final reminder. Deadline for requests is tomorrow. > >Cheers > >Matt > >> All, >>=20 >> A reminder: deadline for slot requests is Friday. >>=20 >> Cheers >>=20 >> Matt >>=20 >> > All, >> > >> > On the agenda for Buenos Aires, we have a session on Tuesday April >> > 5th, >> > 17:30 - 19:00 in Atlantico B. This is currently listed as a TEAS >> > meeting, but is intended as a joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS meeting for the >> > discussion of Yang models. >> > >> > If you'd like a slot to present a Yang draft in Buenos Aires, please >> > send a request to me and the WG chairs by Friday March 18th. Please >> > note the dates below; in particular, the deadline for draft submission >> > is UTC 23:59 on March 21st. >> > >> > We'll need slides for presentation by Friday, April 1st. Again, please >> > send to me and the Chairs. >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > Matt From nobody Fri Mar 18 05:44:49 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0FA12D525; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 05:44:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.17.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160318124447.5374.83174.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 05:44:47 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib-07.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 12:44:48 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : MPLS Transport Profile Linear Protection MIB Authors : Kingston Smiler Selvaraj Mahalingam Venkatesan Vishwas Manral Daniel King Sam Aldrin Jeong-dong Ryoo Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib-07.txt Pages : 39 Date : 2016-03-18 Abstract: This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB) for use with network management protocols. In particular it defines objects for managing MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) Linear Protection. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib-07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Mar 18 11:25:42 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894A812D618; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 11:25:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.191 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.191 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_KAM_HTML_FONT_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w04DyScaoqOb; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 11:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usplmg21.ericsson.net (usplmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B762A12D774; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 11:25:38 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c6180641-f79fa6d0000057a9-95-56ec4801b4a2 Received: from EUSAAHC004.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.84]) by usplmg21.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id E6.BE.22441.1084CE65; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 19:25:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from EUSAAMB105.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.122]) by EUSAAHC004.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.84]) with mapi id 14.03.0248.002; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 14:25:37 -0400 From: David Allan I To: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , 'Ross Callon' , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt Thread-Index: AQHRe7lB57lSLFFx6Um0wB1zJIvyep9U1O4AgAq1gBA= Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 18:25:36 +0000 Message-ID: References: <064501d17bbc$49f36110$ddda2330$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <064501d17bbc$49f36110$ddda2330$@olddog.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.12] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_E6C17D2345AC7A45B7D054D407AA205C4B0EF43Aeusaamb105erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrCIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPiC6jx5swgylLlCx+9Nxgtlh3+RSb xa2lK1kt/q64wuLA4rFkyU8mj+tNV9k9VmxeyRjAHMVlk5Kak1mWWqRvl8CV8W/WZuaCj22M FXPvWTYwbqnoYuTkkBAwkXj4ezkThC0mceHeerYuRi4OIYEjjBL7991nh3CWM0p8mvURrIpN wEBiz/8vjCC2iEC5xIvN65hBbGYBQ4mJE/eD2cICIRJ3961hh6gJlZj84yMrhG0l8brpLlic RUBV4tnBbWBxXgFfiacP/jNCLOtmlPi+Yj7YAk4Ba4kl37rAbEag876fWsMEsUxc4taT+VBn C0gs2XOeGcIWlXj5+B8rhK0kMef1Najj8iU6L6xiglgmKHFy5hOWCYyis5CMmoWkbBaSMoi4 jsSC3Z/YIGxtiWULXzPD2GcOPGZCFl/AyL6KkaO0uCAnN93IcBMjMO6OSbA57mDc2+t5iFGA g1GJh7dg+eswIdbEsuLK3EOMEhzMSiK8R93ehAnxpiRWVqUW5ccXleakFh9ilOZgURLn/fbx cpiQQHpiSWp2ampBahFMlomDU6qBsfr0eTndZzPnJCz8efPI9a9/BEwevm/9F2RhnT3z8tpn v5ckTZlwbbtp7qvaL3HumxfPaWoyWbX5W88N13rRr3uFfTbwflZ6crBVRz7jRGV9/asg9c6U jACpvUcERV26rJi7Gr4Ensxvjzp+tfR90tOtkp67lqa/6mfg4FjVd3bidPN5Nt1lR5VYijMS DbWYi4oTAeQpFz23AgAA Archived-At: Cc: "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 18:25:41 -0000 --_000_E6C17D2345AC7A45B7D054D407AA205C4B0EF43Aeusaamb105erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmmm Truth in advertising here; IMO my employer's policy is "disclose early, di= sclose often and license RAND" as good corporate citizens. The IPR in quest= ion was disclosed on the MPLS list in July of 2015 (I just checked the arc= hive). If there is a reasonable expectation of an unencumbered alternative then se= eking an alternative make sense, but the appropriate disclosure has been ou= t there for 9+ months, and no alternative would appear to be forthcoming. S= uddenly seeking one now seems to be just a bit counter productive.... So to me the only real question is "does the WG think this is a problem wor= th solving". I would think the answer to that is a self-evident "yes" My 2 cents Dave From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:35 AM To: 'Ross Callon'; mpls@ietf.org Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed= -02.txt Ross, thanks for this notice. I need to read the IPR referenced by the disclosure, but pending that, I do= not support this document going forward in its current state. I think it is important for the working group to seek to develop solutions = that either completely unencumbered by IPR or that is available on free-to-= implementers terms. It may turn out that this is not possible with the disc= losed IPR, but I think the WG should try. For the avoidance of doubt: I am not making any comment on the IPR-holder's= rights to impose whatever license they want, and I am not asking them to v= ary their terms. I do not that it would be convenient if the IPR holder updated the disclosu= re to show that it applies to the current WG draft. Thanks, Adrian From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ross Callon Sent: 11 March 2016 17:13 To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.= txt Working Group, This is to initiate a two week working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-b= fd-directed-02.txt. Please send your comments to the mpls wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). There is one IPR disclosure on draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed (which was the pre-working group version of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed): https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2625/ All the authors have stated that they are not aware of any other IPR that r= elates to this draft. This working group last call will end at the end of the day Friday March 25= , 2016. As with any WGLC, working group participants are requested to read the docu= ment and comment. If you feel that the document is ready for publication it is a= ppropriate to respond to any WGLC with a short and simple email indicating support. Ross for the MPLS WG chairs --_000_E6C17D2345AC7A45B7D054D407AA205C4B0EF43Aeusaamb105erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hmmm

 <= /p>

Truth in advertising here= ; IMO my employer’s  policy is “disclose early, di= sclose often and license RAND” as good corporate citizens. The IPR in= question was disclosed on the MPLS  list in July of 2015 (I just chec= ked the archive).

 <= /p>

If there is a reasonable = expectation of an unencumbered alternative then seeking an alternative make= sense, but the appropriate disclosure has been out there for 9+ months, and no alternative would appear to be forthcoming. Sudd= enly seeking one now seems to be just a bit counter productive….=

 <= /p>

So to me the only real qu= estion is “does the WG think this is a problem worth solving”. = I would think the answer to that is a self-evident “yes”

 <= /p>

My 2 cents

Dave

 <= /p>

From: mpls [ma= ilto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:35 AM
To: 'Ross Callon'; mpls@ietf.org
Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-d= irected-02.txt

 

Ross, than= ks for this notice.

 = ;

I need to = read the IPR referenced by the disclosure, but pending that, I do not suppo= rt this document going forward in its current state.

 = ;

I think it= is important for the working group to seek to develop solutions that eithe= r completely unencumbered by IPR or that is available on free-to-implemente= rs terms. It may turn out that this is not possible with the disclosed IPR, b= ut I think the WG should try.

 = ;

For the av= oidance of doubt: I am not making any comment on the IPR-holder's rights to= impose whatever license they want, and I am not asking them to vary their terms.

 = ;

I do not t= hat it would be convenient if the IPR holder updated the disclosure to show= that it applies to the current WG draft.

 = ;

Thanks,

Adrian

 = ;

From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ross Callon
Sent: 11 March 2016 17:13
To: mpls@ietf.org
Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org=
Subject: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-direc= ted-02.txt

 

Working Group,

 

This is to initiate a two week working = group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt.

 

Please send your comments to the mpls w= g mailing list (mpls@ietf.org).

 

There is one IPR disclosure on draft-mi= rsky-mpls-bfd-directed

(which was the pre-working group versio= n of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed):

https://datatracker.ietf.org/i= pr/2625/  

All the authors have stated that they a= re not aware of any other IPR that relates to this

draft.

 

This working group last call will end a= t the end of the day Friday March 25, 2016. 

 

As with any WGLC, working group partici= pants are requested to read the document

and comment. If you feel that the docum= ent is ready for publication it is appropriate to

respond to any WGLC with a short and si= mple email indicating support.

 

Ross

for the MPLS WG chairs

 

 

--_000_E6C17D2345AC7A45B7D054D407AA205C4B0EF43Aeusaamb105erics_-- From nobody Fri Mar 18 12:39:11 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F08612D682; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 12:39:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.17.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160318193909.26081.13278.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 12:39:09 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-06.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 19:39:09 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Residence Time Measurement in MPLS network Authors : Greg Mirsky Stefano Ruffini Eric Gray John Drake Stewart Bryant Alexander Vainshtein Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-06.txt Pages : 26 Date : 2016-03-18 Abstract: This document specifies G-ACh based Residence Time Measurement and how it can be used by time synchronization protocols being transported over MPLS domain. Residence time is the variable part of propagation delay of timing and synchronization messages and knowing what this delay is for each message allows for a more accurate determination of the delay to be taken into account in applying the value included in a PTP event message. 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boundary="_000_D311DF5888F62tsaadciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "teas-chairs@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] progressing draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 20:48:19 -0000 --_000_D311DF5888F62tsaadciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lou/WG, We have uploaded a new revision of the draft to incorporate the change need= ed to carry the Summary FRR information inside the (extended) Association O= bject. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte-04 We also looked into your comment about considering usage of existing PRIMAR= Y_PATH_ROUTE object in place of the newly proposed SUMMARY_FRR_BYPASS objec= t. The only concern we had with this was the PRIMARY_PATH_ROUTE object is defined with a class value of the form 0bbbbbbb, and receiving nodes along = the path (of the bypass LSP in our case) that do not support this object MU= ST return a PathErr (as described in RFC4872). This may impact backward compatibility, so we=92ve kept the new SUMMARY_FRR= _BYPASS object until consensus is reached. Regards, Tarek On 2015-10-13, 3:18 PM, "Lou Berger" > wrote: Tarek, Thanks for the status. I'll keep an eye out for the next rev. Lou On 10/13/2015 2:46 PM, Tarek Saad (tsaad) wrote: Hi Lou, The authors met and reviewed the proposal to use the RSVP Association object as a mechanism to relay the per-group bypass assignment information between the PLR(s) and MP(s). We agree that since the Association object as proposed is used to associate recovery LSP with the LSPs it is protecting can serve the purpose of associating a group of protected LSP(s) with a bypass LSP. We are looking into extending the IPv4/IPv6 Extended ASSOCIATION Object (as defined in rfc6780) to carry the necessary Summary FRR information between the PLR and MP. We plan to add this in the next revision of the document. Regards, Tarek On 2015-09-25, 8:20 AM, "Lou Berger" > wrote: Tarek, Thanks for the response, see below. On 9/20/2015 10:39 PM, Tarek Saad (tsaad) wrote: Thanks Lou for your review and comments. Inline for responses. On 2015-09-17, 11:21 AM, "mpls on behalf of Lou Berger" on behalf of lberger@l= abn.net> wrote: I have some comments on the proposed mechanism (I have no opinion on utility or likely implementation): 1. WRT SUMMARY_FRR_BYPASS_ACTIVE object RSVP object space is a pretty scarce resource and it seems we have a number of existing objects that could be reused to support transport of the required information. Some candidates include: the Association object with a new association type; or perhaps the PRIMARY_PATH_ROUTE Object with a new C-type. [TS]: seems reasonable, we will discuss this among the authors for a suitable extension. great. 2. SUMMARY_FRR_BYPASS_ASSIGNMENT subobjects While RFC4090 makes use of RRO carried information, it does so without changing the RRO format. (At the time, I recall some used this as justification for RRO usage vs introducing new formats.) The new SOs introduce new information and don't seem to be particularly linked to normal RRO operation -- and more significantly really defining new transit-node to transit-node signaling semantics: [TS]: the new SO, is recording local information that if intercepted by another LSR (PLR or MP that understands it) can use it for further summary FRR processing. This resembles to an extent what other RRO SOs do today (e.g. node-id and label Sos) for regular FRR. The point was that those SOs serve their original purpose of being useful in constructing EROs, while the new SOs really have entirely different semantics -- for example what does it mean if an ingress includes the new SOs for a transit node? The PLR notifies the MP of the bypass tunnel assignment via adding a SUMMARY_FRR_BYPASS_ASSIGNMENT subobject to the RSVP Path message RECORD_ROUTE object ... The MP acknowledges the PLR's assignment by signalling a SUMMARY_FRR_BYPASS_ASSIGNMENT subobject within the RSVP Resv messsage RECORD_ROUTE object. IMO this usage of RRO is really wrong (and is easily broken by application of RRO policies). I think extending an existing object [TS]: yes, the comment (about RRO policies) is rightfully correct. .. but also applicable to existing RRO/SO(s) (e.g. node-id and/or label SO) needed for proper FRR too. Again, this was leveraging SOs that were defined & used for other purposes and overloading their semantics. That said, will discuss extension of an existing (FRR) object amongst the authors for (dis)advantages. That would be great and will be very interested in hearing your thoughts. Thanks, Lou Regards, Tarek class is a better approach. Extending one of the existing FRR objects would probably be cleanest, but think the authors should consider and propose their preference. Lou On 9/17/2015 6:44 AM, Loa Andersson wrote: Working Groups, The mpls and teas working group chairs discussed the home working group for draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte. Since the is entirely the choice fell on the mpls working group. We also decided to keep the teas wg in the loop. We have just initiated the mpls review team (MPLS-RT) review if this draft. This review is focused on if we want to accept the document as a working group draft, and if it is in shape for us to do so. The MPLS-RT reviewers are picked by the mpls chair that will shepherd the document. This also mean that this is a good time for anyone, from both working groups, to review the document. Please send your reviews to the mpls working group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). /Loa _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --_000_D311DF5888F62tsaadciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Lou/WG,

We have uploaded a new revision of the draft to incorporate the change= needed to carry the Summary FRR information inside the (extended) Associat= ion Object.

We also looked into your comment about considering usage of existing P= RIMARY_PATH_ROUTE object in place of the newly proposed SUMMARY_FRR_BYPASS = object. The only concern we had with this was the PRIMARY_PATH_ROUTE object= is
defined with a class value of the form 0bbbbbbb, and receiving nodes a= long the path (of the bypass LSP in our case) that do not support this obje= ct MUST return a PathErr (as described in RFC4872).
This may impact backward compatibility, so we=92ve kept the new SUMMAR= Y_FRR_BYPASS  object until consensus is reached.

Regards,
Tarek



On 2015-10-13, 3:18 PM, "Lou Berger" <lberger@labn.net> wrote:

Tarek,
    Thanks for the status.  I'll keep an= eye out for the next rev.

Lou

On 10/13/2015 2:46 PM, Tarek Saad (tsaad) wrote:
Hi Lou,

The authors met and reviewed the proposal to use the RSVP Association<= /div>
object as a mechanism to relay the per-group bypass assignment informa= tion
between the PLR(s) and MP(s). We agree that since the Association obje= ct
as proposed is used to associate recovery LSP with the LSPs it is
protecting can serve the purpose of associating a group of protected
LSP(s) with a bypass LSP. We are looking into extending the IPv4/IPv6<= /div>
Extended ASSOCIATION Object (as defined in rfc6780) to carry the neces= sary
Summary FRR information between the PLR and MP. We plan to add this in= the
next revision of the document.
  
Regards,
Tarek



On 2015-09-25, 8:20 AM, "Lou Berger" <lberger@labn.net> wrote:

Tarek,
    Thanks for the response, see below.

On 9/20/2015 10:39 PM, Tarek Saad (tsaad) wrote:
Thanks Lou for your review and comments. Inline for responses.

On 2015-09-17, 11:21 AM, "mpls on behalf of Lou Berger"

I have some comments on the proposed mechanism (I have no opinion on
utility or likely implementation):

1. WRT SUMMARY_FRR_BYPASS_ACTIVE object

RSVP object space is a pretty scarce resource and it seems we have a
number of existing objects that could be reused to support transport o= f
the required information.  Some candidates include: the Asso= ciation
object with a new association type; or perhaps the PRIMARY_PATH_ROUTE<= /div>
Object with a new C-type.
[TS]: seems reasonable, we will discuss this among the authors for a
suitable extension.
great.

2. SUMMARY_FRR_BYPASS_ASSIGNMENT subobjects

While RFC4090 makes use of RRO carried information, it does so without=
changing the RRO format.  (At the time, I recall some used t= his as
justification for RRO usage vs introducing new formats.)  Th= e new SOs
introduce new information and don't seem to be particularly linked to<= /div>
normal RRO operation -- and more significantly really defining new
transit-node to transit-node signaling semantics:
[TS]: the new SO, is recording local information that if intercepted b= y
another LSR (PLR or MP that understands it) can use it for further
summary
FRR processing. This resembles to an extent what other RRO SOs do toda= y
(e.g. node-id and label Sos) for regular FRR.
The point was that those SOs serve their original purpose of being
useful in constructing EROs, while the new SOs really have entirely
different semantics -- for example what does it mean if an ingress
includes the new SOs for a transit node?

   The PLR notifies the MP of the bypass tunnel assignment v= ia adding a
   SUMMARY_FRR_BYPASS_ASSIGNMENT subobject to the RSVP Path = message
   RECORD_ROUTE object ...

   The MP acknowledges the PLR's assignment by signalling a<= /div>
   SUMMARY_FRR_BYPASS_ASSIGNMENT subobject within the RSVP R= esv messsage
   RECORD_ROUTE object.

IMO this usage of RRO is really wrong (and is easily broken by
application of RRO policies).  I think extending an existing= object
[TS]: yes, the comment (about RRO policies) is rightfully correct. ..<= /div>
but
also applicable to existing RRO/SO(s) (e.g. node-id and/or label SO)
needed for proper FRR too.
Again, this was leveraging SOs that were defined & used for other<= /div>
purposes and overloading their semantics.

That said, will discuss extension of an
existing (FRR) object amongst the authors for (dis)advantages.
That would be great and will be very interested in hearing your though= ts.

Thanks,
Lou

Regards,
Tarek


class is a better approach. Extending one of the existing FRR objects<= /div>
would probably be cleanest, but think the authors should consider and<= /div>
propose their preference.

Lou

On 9/17/2015 6:44 AM, Loa Andersson wrote:
Working Groups,

The mpls and teas working group chairs discussed the home working
group for draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte. Since the is
entirely
the choice fell on the mpls working group. We also decided to keep
the teas wg in the loop.

We have just initiated the mpls review team (MPLS-RT) review if this
draft. This review is focused on if we want to accept the document as<= /div>
a working group draft, and if it is in shape for us to do so.

The MPLS-RT reviewers are picked by the mpls chair that will shepherd<= /div>
the document.

This also mean that this is a good time for anyone, from both working<= /div>
groups, to review the document. Please send your reviews to the mpls
working group mailing list (mpls@ietf= .org).

/Loa

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Please send your comments to the mpls wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). There are no IPR disclosures against this document. All the authors and contributors have stated on the working group mailing list that they are not aware of any IPRs that relates to this draft. Note 1: The document shepherd has agreed with the MIB-doctor to do a further review as part of the wglc. Note 2: When we progress MIB modules today it is often asked if we should do a YANG model instead. Nothing in this document stops us from doing a YANG model, but we have clear operator interest to have the MIB module progressed. This working group last call ends April 05, 2016. /Loa for the MPLS wg chairs -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Fri Mar 18 20:04:13 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD94912D6AD; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 20:04:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MCwi1VHClJsZ; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 20:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BCAD12D66E; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 20:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [49.149.180.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 76F10180155A; Sat, 19 Mar 2016 04:04:02 +0100 (CET) To: "mpls@ietf.org" References: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <56ECC18A.8030101@pi.nu> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 11:03:38 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56DA9B26.8050800@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] Closed - Poll to see if we have consensus to adopt draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps-updates as an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 03:04:12 -0000 Working Group, This working group adoption poll is closed. We have a new wg document! Can the authors please post draft-ietf-mpls-tp-aps-updates-00 with no other changes than file name, version and dates. /Loa mpls wg co-chair On 2016-03-05 16:39, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, > > This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-ryoo-mpls-tp-aps- > updates as an MPLS working group document. > > Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working > group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical > motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that > the document should not be adopted as a working group document. > > There are no IPR disclosures against this document. > > All the authors has stated on the on the mpls wg mailing list that they > are not aware of any IPRs that relate to this document. > > Note: One of the issues that surfaced in the MPLS-RT review was that the > implementation status was unclear. To check on this we did an early > implementation poll. There have been responses to the mailing, to the > mpls wg chairs and to my uni-directionally. The conclusion is that > RFC 7271 (the specification that this document updates) is well > implemented and we know of deployments; a rather large number of > vendors says that they will implement this draft and operators has > stated that it will be deployed once it is available. > > The working group adoption poll ends March 19, 2016. > > /Loa > > MPLS wg co-chair. 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auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160320062237.21219.82368.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 23:22:37 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-aps-updates-00.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 06:22:37 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Updates to MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) Linear Protection in Automatic Protection Switching (APS) Mode Authors : Jeong-dong Ryoo Taesik Cheung Huub van Helvoort Italo Busi Guangjuan Weng Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-tp-aps-updates-00.txt Pages : 7 Date : 2016-03-19 Abstract: This document contains updates to MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) linear protection in Automatic Protection Switching (APS) mode defined in RFC 7271. The updates provide rules related to the initialization of the Protection State Coordination (PSC) Control Logic, in which the state machine resides, when operating in APS mode. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Mar 20 23:43:29 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D2F12D623; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 23:43:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.17.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160321064325.8941.557.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 23:43:25 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis-01.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 06:43:25 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Detecting Multi-Protocol Label Switched (MPLS) Data Plane Failures Authors : Kireeti Kompella Carlos Pignataro Nagendra Kumar Sam Aldrin Mach(Guoyi) Chen Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis-01.txt Pages : 53 Date : 2016-03-20 Abstract: This document describes a simple and efficient mechanism that can be used to detect data plane failures in Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Paths (LSPs). There are two parts to this document: information carried in an MPLS "echo request" and "echo reply" for the purposes of fault detection and isolation, and mechanisms for reliably sending the echo reply. This document obsoletes RFC 4379. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Mar 21 00:45:46 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5711C12D6B2; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:45:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.17.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160321074544.6005.9680.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:45:44 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection-01.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 07:45:44 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : MPLS-TP Shared-Ring protection (MSRP) mechanism for ring topology Authors : Weiqiang Cheng Lei Wang Han Li Huub van Helvoort Kai Liu Jie Dong Jia He Fang Li Jian Yang Junfang Wang Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection-01.txt Pages : 47 Date : 2016-03-21 Abstract: This document describes requirements, architecture and solutions for MPLS-TP Shared Ring Protection (MSRP) in the ring topology for point- to-point (P2P) services. The mechanism of MSRP is illustrated and how it satisfies the requirements for optimized ring protection in RFC 5654 is analyzed. This document also defines the Ring Protection Switch (RPS) Protocol which is used to coordinate the protection behavior of the nodes on MPLS ring. 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Malis" Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 08:04:52 -0400 Message-ID: To: Loa Andersson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff1cca8a9f6c7052e8de886 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 12:05:29 -0000 --e89a8ff1cca8a9f6c7052e8de886 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As someone that=E2=80=99s done a bit of MIB work in the past, it=E2=80=99s = great to see this very useful MIB coming out of the WG. And you can=E2=80=99t go wrong w= ith Joan as the MIB Doctor! I heartily support the publication of this draft. Thanks, Andy On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Loa Andersson wrote: > > Working Group, > > This is to initiate a two week working group last call on > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib. > > Please send your comments to the mpls wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). > > There are no IPR disclosures against this document. > > All the authors and contributors have stated on the working group > mailing list that they are not aware of any IPRs that relates to this > draft. > > Note 1: The document shepherd has agreed with the MIB-doctor to do a > further review as part of the wglc. > > Note 2: When we progress MIB modules today it is often asked if we > should do a YANG model instead. Nothing in this document stops us from > doing a YANG model, but we have clear operator interest to have the MIB > module progressed. > > This working group last call ends April 05, 2016. > > /Loa > for the MPLS wg chairs > > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com > Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu > Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > --e89a8ff1cca8a9f6c7052e8de886 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As someone that=E2=80=99s done a bit of MIB work in the pa= st, it=E2=80=99s great to see this very useful MIB coming out of the WG. An= d you can=E2=80=99t go wrong with Joan as the MIB Doctor! I heartily suppor= t the publication of this draft.

Thanks,
Andy<= /div>


On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Loa Andersson = <loa@pi.nu>= wrote:

Working Group,

This is to initiate a two week working group last call on
draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-mib.

Please send your comments to the mpls wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org).

There are no IPR disclosures against this document.

All the authors and contributors have stated on the working group
mailing list that they are not aware of any IPRs that relates to this
draft.

Note 1: The document shepherd has agreed with the MIB-doctor to do a
further review as part of the wglc.

Note 2: When we progress MIB modules today it is often asked if we
should do a YANG model instead. Nothing in this document stops us from
doing a YANG model, but we have clear operator interest to have the MIB
module progressed.

This working group last call ends April 05, 2016.

/Loa
for the MPLS wg chairs

--


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Senior MPLS Expert=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 loa@pi.nu
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--e89a8ff1cca8a9f6c7052e8de886-- From nobody Mon Mar 21 07:21:06 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF18D12D852; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 07:21:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.17.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160321142102.31965.53103.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 07:21:02 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping-06.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:21:03 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping/Trace for Segment Routing Networks Using MPLS Dataplane Authors : Nagendra Kumar George Swallow Carlos Pignataro Nobo Akiya Sriganesh Kini Hannes Gredler Mach(Guoyi) Chen Filename : draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping-06.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2016-03-21 Abstract: Segment Routing architecture leverages the source routing and tunneling paradigms and can be directly applied to MPLS data plane. A node steers a packet through a controlled set of instructions called segments, by prepending the packet with a Segment Routing header. The segment assignment and forwarding semantic nature of Segment Routing raises additional consideration for connectivity verification and fault isolation in LSP with Segment Routing architecture. This document illustrates the problem and describe a mechanism to perform LSP Ping and Traceroute on Segment Routing network over MPLS data plane. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Mar 21 10:31:52 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4711212D97A; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:31:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.17.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160321173144.31929.12464.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:31:44 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-rmr-01.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:31:44 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Resilient MPLS Rings Authors : Kireeti Kompella Luis M. Contreras Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-rmr-01.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2016-03-21 Abstract: This document describes the use of the MPLS control and data planes on ring topologies. It describes the special nature of rings, and proceeds to show how MPLS can be effectively used in such topologies. It describes how MPLS rings are configured, auto-discovered and signaled, as well as how the data plane works. Companion documents describe the details of discovery and signaling for specific protocols. 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If you feel that the document is ready for publication it is a= ppropriate to respond to any WGLC with a short and simple email indicating support. Ross for the MPLS WG chairs --_000_CO2PR05MB5711D655C42D52D020EAF14A58F0CO2PR05MB571namprd_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Please note that this wor= king group last call is still open, and to this point we have only received= two responses (from Adrian and Dave Allan).

 <= /p>

I would like to encourage= others to look at the document and to respond to the WGLC.

 <= /p>

Thanks, Ross

 <= /p>

From: Ross Cal= lon [mailto:rcallon@juniper.net]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:13 PM
To: mpls@ietf.org
Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Gregory Mirsky; Jeff Tantsura; Ilya Varlas= hkin; Mach Chen
Subject: working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.= txt

 

Working Group,

 

This is to initiate a two week working = group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt.

 

Please send your comments to the mpls w= g mailing list (mpls@ietf.org).

 

There is one IPR disclosure on draft-mi= rsky-mpls-bfd-directed

(which was the pre-working group versio= n of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed):

https://datatracker.ietf.org/i= pr/2625/  

All the authors have stated that they a= re not aware of any other IPR that relates to this

draft.

 

This working group last call will end a= t the end of the day Friday March 25, 2016. 

 

As with any WGLC, working group partici= pants are requested to read the document

and comment. If you feel that the docum= ent is ready for publication it is appropriate to

respond to any WGLC with a short and si= mple email indicating support.

 

Ross

for the MPLS WG chairs

 

 

--_000_CO2PR05MB5711D655C42D52D020EAF14A58F0CO2PR05MB571namprd_-- From nobody Mon Mar 21 13:37:57 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0164212D5B4; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 13:37:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.689 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.689 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_KAM_HTML_FONT_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gWIMJsZxGVVt; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 13:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi0-x229.google.com (mail-oi0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4A6212DB50; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 13:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi0-x229.google.com with SMTP id d205so152057228oia.0; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 13:37:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=TFKIWhJuKpArKbvp28N0BxrycDHCw2Vg3TgXi1XSWM8=; b=0aFiq5taH6apKaLkKlmPXW+5bcTKX3VMLwOjZ9du6xH86r3PLJ2+5ps/OOGUDaierJ s5Dh3j42drahNweyZkJfTEJR6d8Vq8N7Ko22DyvsEJ1AT+XDTRMX4uQ/Dx/0C5VH/ZQE kOnvJNOp/PKh645l79AlewNEFs/+GMA34yugnCVXnGqdqEcXgJnI5hFvBzEFkyGaLjX7 QM5Dyttu388+GUbNTupfO7rHXa6Sv75fsE3Z+uMHLos+3y7RtAAlyAxzXTi0hobEEgzG BlqlouOgjAwIeY6qB2OXHL18wB8+BCM/Fwlcsr3zUgJnqKewWO6ZLqawsErpVs1yh+q8 q/2g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=TFKIWhJuKpArKbvp28N0BxrycDHCw2Vg3TgXi1XSWM8=; b=AfTiltwlXdxd54Uw573Gvazs9mr2dBH523Mr87h1hDNByCkWKsQequRMPxKUH0PkhO 5Zc2XCzD/5sOJ7Tq/6sLaTga5y1deKo+mHKgfofjlgBMYwJC7Y8IeG68YdfudfAkJj22 DcnSPUfTVX0L9bMNkKSaodjQiJ45YpVoCMAmkg3QZEaXKiYjSUKdzsPpB7m9KewzvGkY 8XVxF/eZtkoo66cg6/fDV19z9iIc/HEY0rwQCm6dxrneH9RgVnuMDU9PlWyKQpNGmt1Y 4zty+SKBH6URfpgUhYK8KuvyJRoGwduv+cW+FXzgb2kHvNKo+LeiDQYrv5wTY2UhhHEE EOjg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJInNCwOsZmcKGjxKQLeWjR3jzHLIKdyc7UmLGtNUOXJo7JDfEWhQMJQtWheHiGe5ML5enfs7w7X0wqRzQ== X-Received: by 10.157.49.49 with SMTP id e46mr178629otc.96.1458592673313; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 13:37:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.104.162 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 13:37:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:37:33 -0400 Message-ID: To: Ross Callon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11411ee42a3c50052e951254 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] reminder, RE: working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 20:37:56 -0000 --001a11411ee42a3c50052e951254 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ross, I just read the draft, and while I don=E2=80=99t have any specific comments= on the text, I do support its publication as an RFC. Cheers, Andy On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Ross Callon wrote: > Please note that this working group last call is still open, and to this > point we have only received two responses (from Adrian and Dave Allan). > > > > I would like to encourage others to look at the document and to respond t= o > the WGLC. > > > > Thanks, Ross > > > > *From:* Ross Callon [mailto:rcallon@juniper.net] > *Sent:* Friday, March 11, 2016 12:13 PM > *To:* mpls@ietf.org > *Cc:* mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Gregory Mirsky; Jeff Tantsura; Ilya > Varlashkin; Mach Chen > *Subject:* working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt > > > > Working Group, > > > > This is to initiate a two week working group last call on > draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt. > > > > Please send your comments to the mpls wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). > > > > There is one IPR disclosure on draft-mirsky-mpls-bfd-directed > > (which was the pre-working group version of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed)= : > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2625/ > > All the authors have stated that they are not aware of any other IPR that > relates to this > > draft. > > > > This working group last call will end at the end of the day Friday March > 25, 2016. > > > > As with any WGLC, working group participants are requested to read the > document > > and comment. If you feel that the document is ready for publication it is > appropriate to > > respond to any WGLC with a short and simple email indicating support. > > > > Ross > > for the MPLS WG chairs > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > --001a11411ee42a3c50052e951254 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ross,

I just read the draft, and while = I don=E2=80=99t have any specific comments on the text, I do support its pu= blication as an RFC.

Cheers,
Andy
<= /div>

On Mon, Mar = 21, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Ross Callon <rcallon@juniper.net> wro= te:

Please note that this wor= king group last call is still open, and to this point we have only received= two responses (from Adrian and Dave Allan).

=C2=A0

I would like to encourage= others to look at the document and to respond to the WGLC.

=C2=A0

Thanks, Ross

=C2=A0

From: Ross Cal= lon [mailto:rcallo= n@juniper.net]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:13 PM
To: mpls@ietf.org=
Cc: mpls-c= hairs@ietf.org; Gregory Mirsky; Jeff Tantsura; Ilya Varlashkin; Mach Ch= en
Subject: working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.= txt

=C2=A0

Working Group,

=C2=A0

This is to initiate a two week working = group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt.

=C2=A0

Please send your comments to the mpls w= g mailing list (mpls@ietf.org).

=C2=A0

There is one IPR disclosure on draft-mi= rsky-mpls-bfd-directed

(which was the pre-working group versio= n of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed):

https://data= tracker.ietf.org/ipr/2625/ =C2=A0

All the authors have stated that they a= re not aware of any other IPR that relates to this

draft.

=C2=A0

This working group last call will end a= t the end of the day Friday=C2=A0March 25, 2016.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

As with any WGLC, working group partici= pants are requested to read the document

and comment. If you feel that the docum= ent is ready for publication it is appropriate to

respond to any WGLC with a short and si= mple email indicating support.

=C2=A0

Ross

for the MPLS WG chairs

=C2=A0

=C2=A0


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Please send slides for presentation by Friday, April 1st to me and the Chai= rs. 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Note that a written status report is expected for WG drafts that will not b= e presented at the WG session. The status report is expected 1 week prior t= o the WG meeting and needs to include the 3 sections (mostly fits 1 slide): ID name: Current status: Open issues: Next steps: For drafts to be presented, please send the slides by Friday, April 1st. Pl= ease direct the slides and the written status reports to myself, and to the= MPLS WG chairs. Regards, Tarek and MPLS WG chairs --_000_D31641778932Btsaadciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <162210935B35C64192A1C620FE833214@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi WG,

The MPLS and (TEAS and PCE) Joint session Agenda for IETF95 is published at= :
Please review and let the chairs and myself know of any discrepancies.

Note that a written status report is expected for WG drafts that will not b= e presented at the WG session. The status report is expected 1 week prior to the WG meeting and needs to include the 3 sec= tions (mostly fits 1 slide):
ID name:
Current status:
Open issues:
Next steps:

For drafts to be presented, please s= end the slides by Friday, April 1st. Please direct the slides and the writt= en status reports to myself, and to the MPLS WG chairs.

Regards,
Tarek and MPLS WG chairs


--_000_D31641778932Btsaadciscocom_-- From nobody Tue Mar 22 05:28:45 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA8012D5A4; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:28:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l57iFXnYJtOm; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DADC12D55A; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [112.205.66.124]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8036918013E4; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:28:30 +0100 (CET) From: Loa Andersson To: "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping@tools.ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Message-ID: <56F13A68.9020807@pi.nu> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 20:28:24 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:28:38 -0000 Working Group, The authors of draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping has told us that the document is ready to be considered for working adoption. The document been through MPLS-RT review. We will do an IPR poll prior to the start of the adoption poll. This mail starts the IPR poll. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring- lsp-ping? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). There are no IPR disclosure filed directly against this document. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. /Loa mpls wg co-chair -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Tue Mar 22 05:57:08 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8350012D6AE; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:57:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.522 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3g8C_09iPr2h; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com [173.37.86.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C118912D663; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 05:57:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1506; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1458651424; x=1459861024; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-id:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=WcqKtLZFb3t5ooadqPjm8FX85sUaBQ1b7fRTVj+kaMY=; b=fkaxocIKKz4DEhKrkzGdzf/87wbh17cADjR0gVAlF/01iH4e1X2VBdNt vh7t1a4odpbmFla2FC+Zt93DdfZwGFz0OAc2GID+5vCsujINR3UQgSAnC Hhd/HusNw9gSOezfympxYGeCE6EeP0Rs5qfKt4bLGTwlxVlGqwoYpDCiX k=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0D0AQB6QPFW/4cNJK1egzOBTQa6QAENg?= =?us-ascii?q?XCGDQKBRzgUAQEBAQEBAWQnhEIBAQQ6MQMGEwICAQg2EBsXJQIEARKIJ756AQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQECAQEBAQEBGgSKXoQMEAIBhXMFkwSEUwGOA4FlhEyIWI8GAR4BAUKDZ?= =?us-ascii?q?WqJCH4BAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,377,1454976000"; d="scan'208";a="83616461" Received: from alln-core-2.cisco.com ([173.36.13.135]) by rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 22 Mar 2016 12:57:03 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-011.cisco.com (xch-rcd-011.cisco.com [173.37.102.21]) by alln-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u2MCv3h9029451 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:57:03 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-015.cisco.com (173.37.102.25) by XCH-RCD-011.cisco.com (173.37.102.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 07:57:03 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-015.cisco.com ([173.37.102.25]) by XCH-RCD-015.cisco.com ([173.37.102.25]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 07:57:03 -0500 From: "Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar)" To: Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping@tools.ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: IPR poll on draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping Thread-Index: AQHRhDZhLK+fq5+3AEagllntfHyiiJ9lfPaA Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:57:03 +0000 Message-ID: References: <56F13A68.9020807@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <56F13A68.9020807@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.7.151005 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.82.243.96] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <256A67ED3424754CBB74CA6AFF07BCB3@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:57:06 -0000 Hi Loa, I am not aware of any IPR. Thanks, Nagendra On 3/22/16, 8:28 AM, "Loa Andersson" wrote: >Working Group, > >The authors of draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping has told us that >the document is ready to be considered for working adoption. > >The document been through MPLS-RT review. We will do an IPR poll >prior to the start of the adoption poll. > >This mail starts the IPR poll. > >Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring- >lsp-ping? > >If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > >There are no IPR disclosure filed directly against this document. > >If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to >this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant >IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The >document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been >received from each author and contributor. > >If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or >contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any >IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > >/Loa >mpls wg co-chair >--=20 > > >Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com >Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu >Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Tue Mar 22 06:45:39 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5647412D748; 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Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:45:34 GMT Received: from xch-rtp-020.cisco.com (64.101.220.160) by XCH-RTP-019.cisco.com (64.101.220.159) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:45:33 -0400 Received: from xch-rtp-020.cisco.com ([64.101.220.160]) by XCH-RTP-020.cisco.com ([64.101.220.160]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:45:33 -0400 From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" To: Loa Andersson Thread-Topic: IPR poll on draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping Thread-Index: AQHRhDZiguAuAq11FEaQ20h8QI1fi59lvNeA Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:45:33 +0000 Message-ID: References: <56F13A68.9020807@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <56F13A68.9020807@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.82.238.234] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_14D95B80-0998-4FD0-8D2B-FCDC4DF4995C"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping@tools.ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:45:37 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_14D95B80-0998-4FD0-8D2B-FCDC4DF4995C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Loa, I am not aware of any IPR that applies to = draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping-06. Thanks, =E2=80=94 Carlos. > On Mar 22, 2016, at 8:28 AM, Loa Andersson wrote: >=20 > Working Group, >=20 > The authors of draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping has told us that > the document is ready to be considered for working adoption. >=20 > The document been through MPLS-RT review. We will do an IPR poll > prior to the start of the adoption poll. >=20 > This mail starts the IPR poll. >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring- > lsp-ping? >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >=20 > There are no IPR disclosure filed directly against this document. >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond = to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The > document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been > received from each author and contributor. >=20 > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author = or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of = any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >=20 >=20 > /Loa > mpls wg co-chair > -- >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com > Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu > Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 --Apple-Mail=_14D95B80-0998-4FD0-8D2B-FCDC4DF4995C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJW8Ux8AAoJEIXgpQGOZny9t60P+wYtN0OW+v4WdopeAcNVaqi2 LiBnhf0j+Cmmi0W+FJXcECIiZQLUVkaUk+hNnvdUqxsU5Oy25ni6eVKtlwo/GXgU s1fOP53gEn6ko+ycNHrLzblSazoxAca1PGgqZBBqRAEhKOmYxzKrAlP787GbwydE LeFeBT3Am7B/dmS5K8IBmeGcDrZyg7ruOtlXwIJon4lw0s+ADP7qw8YcGLjVs4E3 6v7MGUjnWoZfYz13a1JSNODBc7IsLEHOP/0N5HGpApP2KqUsLsh3HxoFT5mx3DkS 0Q5SpRvc6z13I3bflzw7Zcr+u94lis6Gi+mNVlgycoxeeghaP4ffC5cTAU5v/HDW ic9af9df5b96Q5OSLMWJ8frWrEaWjp0lAPGMfba5W+6OEGUXCexqfCVSLxpJLZfP 172W8uWx8X03K9jiyULMpFNBphEY4MmVlCu2gyTg/20LgL1edhpPj1QeV0wiKae1 jTaGEW6eBSa73SwSH48m55d29km7OeD5Mrx8pgXeiTSA4wZLviKnTYLMRhoNw3dQ HLKookikPl/Q3GtXMkAbZvhe/h1bTtYtDUllIFkDgLz1zdLjgn+HVQyZjz1btuGe GJJour7tDgsd1uA3GWKvgm8VxoZ5c6o6A2aJDuok/oszbHPoasWFABlXoiQkpGvt MnVepjk5NABz+xVHEm/g =fT1o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_14D95B80-0998-4FD0-8D2B-FCDC4DF4995C-- From nobody Tue Mar 22 06:50:44 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D41A12D7EA; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 06:50:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LgvuHX74eJgi; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 06:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilfert.gredler.at (gilfert.gredler.at [87.106.222.165]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A459112D8B6; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 06:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.200] ([::ffff:106.51.28.93]) (AUTH: PLAIN hannes, SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,128bits,AES128-SHA) by gilfert.gredler.at with ESMTPSA; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:50:24 +0100 id 0000000002F783B3.0000000056F14DA1.00006327 To: Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping@tools.ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" References: <56F13A68.9020807@pi.nu> From: Hannes Gredler Message-ID: <56F14D80.8000909@gredler.at> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 19:19:52 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56F13A68.9020807@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:50:33 -0000 not aware of any IPR. - /hannes On Tuesday 22 March 2016 05:58 PM, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, > > The authors of draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping has told us that > the document is ready to be considered for working adoption. > > The document been through MPLS-RT review. We will do an IPR poll > prior to the start of the adoption poll. > > This mail starts the IPR poll. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring- > lsp-ping? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > There are no IPR disclosure filed directly against this document. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The > document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been > received from each author and contributor. > > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > > /Loa > mpls wg co-chair From nobody Tue Mar 22 06:56:22 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DAB912D8F1; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 06:56:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.522 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lCm0Ok8x3fis; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 06:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0168212D904; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 06:56:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1723; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1458654976; x=1459864576; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-id:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=DvG04HsFDbAajHxhtxEQz9TiTWBeM3kjNPLO+HyN9rs=; b=WT/fXh5014y6bIHY44katQheuM7aSPZKifMejb1fhxwTAbGPVzKQtmPJ NqgUrc1yts4G0iIvNiZuq0uvAuuxlDIAVjRPzQJ2HmMzTxDRZpXwstnSa oBRyi8QfKWqY37F7dXK6u7Hj+zF6U2pRAhdcRDCGKT1gLuzimRdeGSdw3 A=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0D1AQDSTfFW/49dJa1egzNTega6QAENg?= =?us-ascii?q?XAXCoVsAoFDOBQBAQEBAQEBZCeEQgEBBAEBAWgDBhMCAgEIRhsMCyUCBAESiCc?= =?us-ascii?q?OvxkBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEUBASGGoREhAwQAgGFcwWNc4lkAY4DgWWET?= =?us-ascii?q?IhYjwYBHgEBQoNlaokIAX0BAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,377,1454976000"; d="scan'208";a="89025240" Received: from rcdn-core-7.cisco.com ([173.37.93.143]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 22 Mar 2016 13:56:15 +0000 Received: from XCH-RTP-013.cisco.com (xch-rtp-013.cisco.com [64.101.220.153]) by rcdn-core-7.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u2MDuE8K019856 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:56:14 GMT Received: from xch-rtp-013.cisco.com (64.101.220.153) by XCH-RTP-013.cisco.com (64.101.220.153) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:56:14 -0400 Received: from xch-rtp-013.cisco.com ([64.101.220.153]) by XCH-RTP-013.cisco.com ([64.101.220.153]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:56:13 -0400 From: "Faisal Iqbal (faiqbal)" To: Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping@tools.ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping Thread-Index: AQHRhDZmVx/ter05N0OqZbOb6v555J9lfMIA Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:56:13 +0000 Message-ID: References: <56F13A68.9020807@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <56F13A68.9020807@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [161.44.212.89] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:56:22 -0000 Hi Loa, I=B9m not aware of any IPR related to this draft. Regards, Faisal Iqbal On 2016-03-22, 8:28 AM, "mpls on behalf of Loa Andersson" wrote: >Working Group, > >The authors of draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping has told us that >the document is ready to be considered for working adoption. > >The document been through MPLS-RT review. We will do an IPR poll >prior to the start of the adoption poll. > >This mail starts the IPR poll. > >Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring- >lsp-ping? > >If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > >There are no IPR disclosure filed directly against this document. > >If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to >this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant >IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The >document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been >received from each author and contributor. > >If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or >contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any >IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > >/Loa >mpls wg co-chair >--=20 > > >Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com >Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu >Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > >_______________________________________________ >mpls mailing list >mpls@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Tue Mar 22 07:46:04 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846C312D160 for ; 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Tue, 22 Mar 2016 07:45:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.20.186 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 07:45:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <56F14D80.8000909@gredler.at> References: <56F13A68.9020807@pi.nu> <56F14D80.8000909@gredler.at> From: Sri Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 07:45:05 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113cf5ac139815052ea444e2 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping@tools.ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:46:03 -0000 --001a113cf5ac139815052ea444e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Loa, I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft. - Sri On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 6:49 AM, Hannes Gredler wrote: > not aware of any IPR. - /hannes > > > On Tuesday 22 March 2016 05:58 PM, Loa Andersson wrote: > >> Working Group, >> >> The authors of draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping has told us that >> the document is ready to be considered for working adoption. >> >> The document been through MPLS-RT review. We will do an IPR poll >> prior to the start of the adoption poll. >> >> This mail starts the IPR poll. >> >> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring- >> lsp-ping? >> >> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >> >> There are no IPR disclosure filed directly against this document. >> >> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to >> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant >> IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The >> document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been >> received from each author and contributor. >> >> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or >> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any >> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >> >> >> /Loa >> mpls wg co-chair >> > > --001a113cf5ac139815052ea444e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Loa, I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft.
- Sri

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 6:49 AM, Hannes Gredler <hannes@gredle= r.at> wrote:
not aware of a= ny IPR. - /hannes


On Tuesday 22 March 2016 05:58 PM, Loa Andersson wrote:
Working Group,

The authors of draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping has told us that
the document is ready to be considered for working adoption.

The document been through MPLS-RT review. We will do an IPR poll
prior to the start of the adoption poll.

This mail starts the IPR poll.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-
lsp-ping?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

There are no IPR disclosure filed directly against this document.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The
document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been
received from each author and contributor.

If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.


/Loa
mpls wg co-chair


--001a113cf5ac139815052ea444e2-- From nobody Tue Mar 22 08:11:49 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E824C12DA0C; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:11:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.522 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MDdQC3zgLyRl; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-6.cisco.com (alln-iport-6.cisco.com [173.37.142.93]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 847EE12D9EF; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:11:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1862; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1458659504; x=1459869104; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=i3IRoMEIIyiK9+XqWTRQzhbUa7EucTYOHM/9CCYmug0=; b=EyAzpPsCXTMr/t5s684KsBSqydPflW5CHJRmF711C+Iz5u6PMh3OjT73 TSFJcqgoyJHSFqntZ/Hq6RKbzio7JKV684gywpk6Eh4+pMXFpnhSFo9qS DEzKhhFJD4btqSnuCch0hgVEb8zmXd7eoiZn6527c1dqfmMYFkczDp2hO I=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0ArAgDMX/FW/5RdJa1egzNTega6PwENg?= =?us-ascii?q?XAXCoczOBQBAQEBAQEBZCeEQgEBBAEBATcxAwYTBAEIGB4rBAgLJwQBEognDsB?= =?us-ascii?q?/AQEBAQEBBAEBAQEBAQEVBASKXoQMEAIBhXMFkwSEUwEWjW2BZYRMiFiPBgEeA?= =?us-ascii?q?QFCg2VqiQh+AQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,377,1454976000"; d="scan'208";a="252347747" Received: from rcdn-core-12.cisco.com ([173.37.93.148]) by alln-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 22 Mar 2016 15:11:43 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-016.cisco.com (xch-rcd-016.cisco.com [173.37.102.26]) by rcdn-core-12.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u2MFBhSn024432 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:11:43 GMT Received: from xch-aln-016.cisco.com (173.36.7.26) by XCH-RCD-016.cisco.com (173.37.102.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 10:11:42 -0500 Received: from xch-aln-016.cisco.com ([173.36.7.26]) by XCH-ALN-016.cisco.com ([173.36.7.26]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 10:11:42 -0500 From: "George Swallow -X (swallow - CLEARPATH WORKFORCE MANAGEMENT INC at Cisco)" To: "Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar)" , Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping@tools.ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping Thread-Index: AQHRhE0kFY1nSmlQ/kmVftvcAcVLOw== Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:11:42 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.6.1.160122 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.131.118.113] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <09858B0AD0B16443A4BA9059256E1D65@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:11:48 -0000 I am aware of no IPR. George On 3/22/16, 8:57 AM, "mpls on behalf of Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar)" wrote: >Hi Loa, > >I am not aware of any IPR. > >Thanks, >Nagendra > >On 3/22/16, 8:28 AM, "Loa Andersson" wrote: > >>Working Group, >> >>The authors of draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping has told us that >>the document is ready to be considered for working adoption. >> >>The document been through MPLS-RT review. We will do an IPR poll >>prior to the start of the adoption poll. >> >>This mail starts the IPR poll. >> >>Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring- >>lsp-ping? >> >>If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >>(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >> >>There are no IPR disclosure filed directly against this document. >> >>If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to >>this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant >>IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The >>document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been >>received from each author and contributor. >> >>If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or >>contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any >>IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >> >> >>/Loa >>mpls wg co-chair >>--=20 >> >> >>Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com >>Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu >>Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > >_______________________________________________ >mpls mailing list >mpls@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Tue Mar 22 18:19:48 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B3512D555; 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Tue, 22 Mar 2016 19:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.189.230 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 19:09:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <56F13A68.9020807@pi.nu> References: <56F13A68.9020807@pi.nu> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 11:09:05 +0900 Message-ID: From: Nobo Akiya To: Loa Andersson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113fb8dc798e14052eadd006 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping@tools.ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 02:09:09 -0000 --001a113fb8dc798e14052eadd006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Loa, I=C2=B9m not aware of any IPR related to this draft. Regards, Nobo On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:28 PM, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, > > The authors of draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping has told us that > the document is ready to be considered for working adoption. > > The document been through MPLS-RT review. We will do an IPR poll > prior to the start of the adoption poll. > > This mail starts the IPR poll. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring- > lsp-ping? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > There are no IPR disclosure filed directly against this document. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The > document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been > received from each author and contributor. > > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > > /Loa > mpls wg co-chair > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com > Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu > Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > --001a113fb8dc798e14052eadd006 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Loa,

I=C2=B9m not aware of any IPR related to this draft.

Regards,
No= bo

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:28 PM, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote= :
Working Group,

The authors of draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-lsp-ping has told us that
the document is ready to be considered for working adoption.

The document been through MPLS-RT review. We will do an IPR poll
prior to the start of the adoption poll.

This mail starts the IPR poll.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-kumarkini-mpls-spring-
lsp-ping?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

There are no IPR disclosure filed directly against this document.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The
document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been
received from each author and contributor.

If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.


/Loa
mpls wg co-chair
--


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--001a113fb8dc798e14052eadd006-- From nobody Wed Mar 23 07:20:47 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7B412D57D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 07:20:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=junipernetworks.onmicrosoft.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D7BIIbggDm2l for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 07:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1bon0734.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:fc10::1:734]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC0EE12D71F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 07:09:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=junipernetworks.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector1-juniper-net; h=From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=/r45nqax4bynfg/EPJwmjT+9IqM+ItNbFzzO5Svbju8=; b=TprOosdI5GN4MW5oGx1r2QOSdzw4I0EeLKICmTNlj8QzGrR4/vMC6GPC25Q9LceqgowSlSgSh2QMxj5xE7h0ENbsc2iSeFN2UZ+d1zRNyhGkhneA+ShB5PKbBokfZWpkZH7+ynVTGlnnIfnBAuYiYC1HpB93GN+K7lLp45/fBFw= Received: from BLUPR05MB1985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.162.224.27) by BLUPR05MB1986.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.162.224.28) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.443.12; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 14:08:46 +0000 Received: from BLUPR05MB1985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.224.27]) by BLUPR05MB1985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.224.27]) with mapi id 15.01.0443.015; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 14:08:46 +0000 From: Ronald Bonica To: "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt Thread-Index: AdGFDYJvzOpZ6BbxTD2LOnYJ8T0PNw== Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 14:08:46 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: ietf.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;ietf.org; dmarc=none action=none header.from=juniper.net; x-originating-ip: [66.129.241.12] x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 0b15421d-810c-4503-f4d9-08d35324a651 x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; BLUPR05MB1986; 5:y/8ylphmgtrXxPI5WQMwnuHTTfJut2WVsD4MgGzJQ6XXshDKGkhLV2EQYSSQmt/Et1J63CA7TkZTGHtZeKp3rsfnrLezkbP4IgMJx+hcg11ic1Kfl4d5MXS963O3Hz3NuGS9jGI5Xt6kOvo93jClfw==; 24:sk2lemEBMOxjvNtsRnq3XfW7mWW6fhi+BwEL2QN4Q+xWnQ2ZMUTS4indsVNQ8wKQ7Adb1k80EGCmKH+vAiWTvoUau849gBPtxq4DiqSq/Uc= x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BLUPR05MB1986; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:(138986009662008); x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(2401047)(8121501046)(5005006)(10201501046)(3002001); SRVR:BLUPR05MB1986; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:BLUPR05MB1986; x-forefront-prvs: 08902E536D x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(164054003)(3846002)(19580405001)(19580395003)(6116002)(76576001)(5008740100001)(5002640100001)(87936001)(66066001)(102836003)(110136002)(107886002)(1220700001)(122556002)(2501003)(5640700001)(81166005)(586003)(2906002)(1096002)(230783001)(50986999)(512954002)(74316001)(450100001)(54356999)(5003600100002)(92566002)(3280700002)(10400500002)(11100500001)(5004730100002)(1730700002)(189998001)(2351001)(33656002)(77096005)(99286002)(3660700001)(2900100001)(86362001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR05MB1986; H:BLUPR05MB1985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 23 Mar 2016 14:08:46.2125 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BLUPR05MB1986 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 14:20:46 -0000 Ross, I agree with Adrian's statement, below. Ron >=20 > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:34:36 -0000 > From: "Adrian Farrel" > To: "'Ross Callon'" , > Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call on > draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt > Message-ID: <064501d17bbc$49f36110$ddda2330$@olddog.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" >=20 > Ross, thanks for this notice. >=20 > I need to read the IPR referenced by the disclosure, but pending that, I = do > not support this document going forward in its current state. >=20 > I think it is important for the working group to seek to develop solution= s that > either completely unencumbered by IPR or that is available on free-to- > implementers terms. It may turn out that this is not possible with the > disclosed IPR, but I think the WG should try. >=20 > For the avoidance of doubt: I am not making any comment on the IPR- > holder's rights to impose whatever license they want, and I am not asking > them to vary their terms. >=20 > I do not that it would be convenient if the IPR holder updated the disclo= sure > to show that it applies to the current WG draft. >=20 > Thanks, > Adrian >=20 From nobody Thu Mar 24 08:33:32 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1DC12DC90; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:33:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.929 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.929 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5o9BdvnhvD03; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relais-inet.orange.com (relais-nor34.orange.com [80.12.70.34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4D5012DD87; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opfednr03.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.67]) by opfednr20.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 56A1740699; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:17:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from Exchangemail-eme2.itn.ftgroup (unknown [xx.xx.31.60]) by opfednr03.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id E3F041A0081; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:17:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from OPEXCLILM21.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::e92a:c932:907e:8f06]) by OPEXCLILM7F.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::c1d7:e278:e357:11ad%19]) with mapi id 14.03.0279.002; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:17:31 +0100 From: To: Eric C Rosen Thread-Topic: [bess] draft-rosen-mpls-rfc3107bis Thread-Index: AdGF3GeY7oYpWXlDQPavaGqQ0wDeuQ== Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:17:30 +0000 Message-ID: <3515_1458832652_56F4050B_3515_774_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A0F819B1E@OPEXCLILM21.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.168.234.5] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "idr@ietf.org" , BESS , "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] [bess] draft-rosen-mpls-rfc3107bis X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:33:25 -0000 Hi Eric, Thanks for your reply. Very much appreciated. Sorry for the delay in responding, but I wanted more time to think about it= .=20 I'm fine with all your point, except one. Please see inline [Bruno]. > From: Eric C Rosen [mailto:erosen@juniper.net] > Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 7:01 PM > To: DECRAENE Bruno IMT/OLN > Cc: idr@ietf.org; BESS; mpls@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [bess] draft-rosen-idr-rfc3107bis-00 >=20 > Bruno, >=20 > Thanks for reviewing the draft! > >> - RFC 3107 provides an encoding that allows BGP to assign multiple > labels > > Upfront, the current issue is that implementations, which claim > compliance with RFC 3107, are just non-compliant. So the draft is proposi= ng > to change the specification to make such implementations compliant, while > another option would be to fix implementation (to be compliant with the > RFC they claim to support). > I think the best approach is to try to write 3107bis in such a way that > the existing deployed implementations are compliant to it. [Bruno] I understand that we have a different perspective on this. Nothing wrong, b= ut please find below mine. On my side, I think that the best approach is to have a 3107bis which is ba= ckward compatible with RFC3107. I don't see why the IEFT would want to create a bis which is not compatible= with the original RFC, especially since this incompatibility may be very d= isruptive in existing networks. > > The main issue I have, is that this draft is not backward compatible wi= th > RFC 3107 (as a RFC 3107 speaker will never notice that its peer has not s= end > the new capability, and may still send multiple labels). Plus in case of = error > due to this incompatibility, the error handling behavior is likely to be = "BGP > session shutdown" (as the NLRI "cannot" be correctly parsed) which is > disruptive. Plus the implementation A not supporting multiple labels, will > claim that the implementation B supporting multiple labels is "not > compliant" with rfc3107bis, while I would rather argue that this is > implementation A which is not compliant with RFC 3107. > Luckily, the existing deployed implementations, as far as I know, do not > support multiple labels. [Bruno] I'm sorry, but I would need more facts on this. In particular which are the= implementations that are known to be incapable of sending multiple labels,= today and in the foreseeable future. And even with such data, there is no guaranty as there may be implementatio= n that we don't know about. Therefore, creating this incompatibility is ris= ky. (Especially for network operator which are the ones which bare the risk) > If a new implementation were to send multiple > labels to an old implementation, we would likely experience the > disruptive behavior you describe. 3107bis tries to prevent this > disruption. 1) again, I appreciate the work being done to handle the fact that some imp= lementations are not compliant with RFC 3107. 2) I think you mean :s/old implementation/non compliant RFC 3107 implementa= tion. As of today "old implementation" are "existing implementations" = and they are supposed to be compliant with RFC 3107. 3) "As far as I know" all the implementations claims to be compliant with R= FC 3107, i.e. are expected to be able to receive multiple labels. And for t= he ones which we are using, they may have written this as part of a contrac= tual agreement. So before considering making a 3107bis which is non backwar= d compatible with RFC 3107, I would like to have the list of those implemen= tations. In the absence of this, I assume that current implementations are = indeed compliant with RFC 3107, just as they claim. Thanks -- Bruno > > > > I'd propose one change: > > - Capability means: I don't support receiving multiple labels, hence you > SHOULD not send that to me. > > - Even if the capability is not advertised by both peers, and hence a s= ingle > label is expected, all implementations MUST check that the "S" bit (in th= is > first label) is set to 1. If the bit is cleared, the Prefix MUST be ident= ified as > per RFC 3107/this document and treated as withdraw as defined in RFC > 7606. > > > > This means more work for rfc3107bis speakers, but we can't ask existing > speakers to do the job. Especially since they were compliant with RFC 310= 7. > If only a single label is expected, there is no real reason to check the > S bit. I'm not sure that all existing implementations actually set the > S bit, so requiring new implementations to check for it would just > introduce a possible backwards compatibility problem. > > Plus very minor comments > > - From an editorial standpoint, I'd personally favor removing =A72.2 and > saying in 2.3(or elsewhere) that if the capability is not exchanged, a si= ngle > label may be encoded. (IMHO duplicating the text is less easy to read and > more error prone. And I believe this would be enough to address your poin= t). > I went back and forth on this issue, and I'd welcome more opinions on > this from the WG. >=20 > You are right that it is generally a bad practice to have so much > duplicated text in a specification, but I thought the intention would be > clearer if the encoding for multiple labels were described separately > from the encoding for single labels. >=20 > > - In Figure 2 (=A72.3), 2 labels are indicated. Do you think there is a= need to > indicate which one is the first (Label 1) and which one is the k th (Labe= l k). > Indeed, the order of the labels is significant when the router will need = to > push them in the dataplane. Or a sentence could be added to make this > explicit. > This is mentioned in the "Data Plane" section, but I think you're right, = it > should be mentioned in section 2.3 as well. >=20 > > - In =A74, there is a possible case which is not described: > > S1 receives L11, L12,... L1k > > S1 sends L21, L12,... L1k > > S1 programs in the data plane: L21 swap L11 > > Compared to sending a single label (L21), S1 avoids having to push k la= bels > in its dataplane, which it may be incapable of. > > - In =A74 > > "While this may be useful in certain scenarios, it may provide unintend= ed > results in other scenarios." I fail to see when this can be useful as N1 = or > downstream LSR will receive packets with labels there are not aware of > (L22...L2k). Out of curiosity, I'm be curious to know the useful scenario= that > you have in mind. > Actually, I was thinking of the case you just described above, but I want= ed to > formulate it in a more general way. For all we know, may be > domain-wide unique labels ;-), or S1 may have some other way of knowing > L21 will get the packet to a node that will be able to understand > . > > - in =A75 " It is possible that a BGP speaker will receive both a SAFI-= 1 route > > for prefix P and a SAFI-4 route for prefix P. The significance of > > this is a matter of local policy." > > For 6PE (rfc4798), may be this should not be a local policy but be spec= ified > as a priori SAFI-1 and SAFI-4 prefix should be comparable. Ideally rfc4798 > could have specified this but I haven't check if it's done. Alternatively= =A75 > could reference this case. > > (Same point for propagation between SAFI-1 and SAFI-4) > In 3107bis, I just tried to capture the fact that different implementatio= ns > handle this differently. If a particular application needs to mandate a > particular behavior, that should be part of the spec for that application. >=20 > Eric ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu= ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages el= ectroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou = falsifie. Merci. 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BLUPR05MB785; 5:ieu+zdNsIn/nJXPSxj6jZlXMCaf8+vQ+FSKx/NaNdzR3t4rRjJjUIgCqOfC+/E+KqjzkCQQZcFzqz6KYS0yTnmZVhk3hoaiyXfZY2h3Uto4AcVgMuDn67zOlCErPmigQKu59rNJ7m0cN4zfrsN9SFQ==; 24:TRe5cHgMdZatRLpB/cmD2XXQ16RvZDHgQe7eE+zXj5hUI7/mWziAESkTSGwQ/VhwAr23DUL2WZXvizTB6N5UouwQ3Syj50t0nhjNbfLpg2Q= X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2016 18:14:14.0064 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BLUPR05MB785 Archived-At: Cc: "idr@ietf.org" , BESS , "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] [bess] draft-rosen-mpls-rfc3107bis X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 18:14:27 -0000 On 3/24/2016 11:17 AM, bruno.decraene@orange.com wrote: > I don't see why the IETF would want to create a bis which is not compatible with the original RFC, It's typical in a bis draft to remove features that haven't been used. > especially since this incompatibility may be very disruptive in existing networks. My belief is that existing deployments don't use or support the multiple labels feature, and that any attempt to use it as specified in RFC3107 will itself be disruptive to existing networks, because it will have interoperability issues and unpredictable results. Adding the "multiple labels" capability is a way to make the feature deployable without causing disruption. > "As far as I know" all the implementations claim to be compliant with RFC 3107, i.e. are expected to be able to receive multiple labels. I'm quite sure you have deployed implementations, from several prominent vendors, that will not properly handle this case. If you do have a deployed implementation that can receive multiple labels, what would you expect it to do with those labels? RFC 3107 doesn't say anything about what to do in this case, it just provides an encoding. Have you ever tried to use the "multiple labels" feature? From nobody Thu Mar 24 23:28:31 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CEFA12D529; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 23:28:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JPr2ZT9xD8os; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 23:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7947912D515; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 23:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [49.149.143.116]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2D512180158D; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 07:28:18 +0100 (CET) To: Ross Callon , George Swallow References: <20160308184803.18600.97126.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <56F4DA7E.6020105@pi.nu> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 14:28:14 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160308184803.18600.97126.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: Multiprotocol Label Switching Discussion List , tom.huber@coriant.com, lihan@chinamobile.com, "pals-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] New Liaison Statement, "LS on work on MPLS-TP protection" X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 06:28:29 -0000 All, I've added the pals chairs, since pseudowire protection is mentioned. Scott, I think a and polite polite response for information is needed, including: - thank them for the information, - if there is anything we need to say on pals work on (linear) protection (Stewart and Andy need to input - acknowledge that we will complete the work on mpls ring protection (mention MSRP and RMR) - wish good luck at the meeting in September Can you compile this. /Loa On 2016-03-09 02:48, Liaison Statement Management Tool wrote: > Title: LS on work on MPLS-TP protection > Submission Date: 2016-03-08 > URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1462/ > Please reply by 2016-05-16 > From: "Hiroshi Ota" > To: Loa Andersson ,George Swallow ,Ross Callon > Cc: Alvaro Retana ,Deborah Brungard ,Multiprotocol Label Switching Discussion List ,Scott Mansfield ,George Swallow ,John Drake ,Alia Atlas ,Ross Callon ,Loa Andersson ,itu-t-liaison@iab.org, > Response Contacts: tom.huber@coriant.com, lihan@chinamobile.com > Technical Contacts: > Purpose: For comment > > Body: ITU-T SG15 wishes to inform the IETF mpls WG of an update to the ITU-T Q9/15 work programme to include a second amendment to Recommendation ITU-T G.8131/Y.1382 Linear protection switching for MPLS transport profile. This amendment will cover pseudowire protection based on Appendix A of IETF RFC 7771. The amendment is targeted for consent at the September 2016 plenary meeting of SG15. > > ITU-T Q9/15 has also been made aware of the initiation of work on MPLS-TP Shared-Ring protection (MSRP) mechanism for ring topology in draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection-00, and has consequently re-initiated work on draft Recommendation ITU-T G.8132/Y.1383 Ring protection switching for MPLS transport profile. As ITU-T Q9/15 intends to reference and be aligned with corresponding normative RFCs, we would appreciate your assessment of the anticipated completion date for draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection as the target consent date for draft Recommendation ITU-T G.8132/Y.1383 depends on it. > Attachments: > > Liaison > https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2016-03-08-itu-t-sg-15-mpls-ls-on-work-on-mpls-tp-protection-attachment-1.pdf > From nobody Fri Mar 25 04:26:06 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBC412D66E; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 04:26:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.619 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.619 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mgw_HTrG2kF2; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 04:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relais-inet.francetelecom.com (relais-ias92.francetelecom.com [193.251.215.92]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15B5912D68D; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 04:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omfedm08.si.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.4]) by omfedm14.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 6981D22C750; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 12:25:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from Exchangemail-eme2.itn.ftgroup (unknown [10.114.31.31]) by omfedm08.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 3C66523805C; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 12:25:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from OPEXCLILM21.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::e92a:c932:907e:8f06]) by OPEXCLILM22.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::8c90:f4e9:be28:2a1%19]) with mapi id 14.03.0279.002; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 12:25:58 +0100 From: To: Eric C Rosen Thread-Topic: [bess] draft-rosen-mpls-rfc3107bis Thread-Index: AQHRhfj17oYpWXlDQPavaGqQ0wDeuZ9p2nRA Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 11:25:58 +0000 Message-ID: <9656_1458905159_56F52047_9656_7014_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A0F81AAA7@OPEXCLILM21.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <3515_1458832652_56F4050B_3515_774_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A0F819B1E@OPEXCLILM21.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <56F42E71.9020201@juniper.net> In-Reply-To: <56F42E71.9020201@juniper.net> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.168.234.5] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 6.2.1.2478543, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2016.3.25.103616 Archived-At: Cc: "idr@ietf.org" , BESS , "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] [bess] draft-rosen-mpls-rfc3107bis X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 11:26:03 -0000 > From: Eric C Rosen [mailto:erosen@juniper.net] > Sent: Thursday, March 24= , 2016 7:14 PM > On 3/24/2016 11:17 AM, bruno.decraene@orange.com wrote: > > I don't see why the IETF would want to create a bis which is not > compatible with the original RFC, >=20 > It's typical in a bis draft to remove features that haven't been used. - Not by making it non backward compatible with the current RFC, in a way w= hich is very disruptive (BGP session shut and the session will stay down or= keep cycling) - On a side note, rfc3107bis does not remove the feature to advertise multi= ple labels.=20 =20 > > especially since this incompatibility may be very disruptive in existing > networks. >=20 > My belief is that existing deployments don't use or support the multiple > labels feature, Do you have data that support this? i.e. there are no deployments and no si= ngle implementation which advertise multiple labels? That sounds very hard = to prove. Hence there will be a risk, and this risk is bared by network ope= rators. I don't see a reason why I would take that risk.=20 > and that any attempt to use it as specified in RFC3107 > will itself be disruptive to existing networks, IMHO RFC3107 is clear enough with respect to the encoding of multiple label= s inside the BGP UPDATE. I fail to see which point would not be clear to so= meone. But this is a theoretical discussion since so far, AFAIK, no major implemen= tation has stated that they would not be able to understand NLRI received w= ith multiple labels, and hence would shutdown the BGP session. So I'm waiting for those hypothetical implementations to declare themselves= . Then we'll see if they are compliant with RFC 3107 or if this is rather a= n implementation issue. > because it will have > interoperability issues and unpredictable results. Any non-compliant implementation may create interoperability issues and unp= redictable results. >From an IETF standpoint, the question is whether a RFC 3107 implementation = would create interoperability issues, up to shutting down the BGP session. > Adding the "multiple > labels" capability is a way to make the feature deployable without > causing disruption. I agree with this point. (although one could also discuss this, at it seems a way to accommodate non= -compliant implementation) =20 > > "As far as I know" all the implementations claim to be compliant with R= FC > 3107, i.e. are expected to be able to receive multiple labels. > I'm quite sure you have deployed implementations, from several > prominent vendors, that will not properly handle this case. I'm waiting for this/these implementation(s) to make a public statement in = this thread / IETF WGs. Then we can discuss whether the issue comes from RF= CF3107 or from the implementation. If none make a public statement, we should assume that all implementations = are capable of receiving multiple labels, as per RFC 3107. And hence there = is no need to make a 3107bis which is non backward compatible with RFC 3107. =20 > If you do have a deployed implementation that can receive multiple > labels, what would you expect it to do with those labels?=20 A priori, the sender said "For FEC X, uses this label stack", so any behavi= or compliant with this information e.g. what is described in your bis draft= https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rosen-idr-rfc3107bis-00#section-4 > RFC 3107 > doesn't say anything about what to do in this case, it just provides an > encoding. RFC3107 describes the BGP encoding, aka "bits on the wire". It does describe how to send and receive multiple labels from a BGP standpo= int. This does not involve shutting down the BGP session when multiple labe= ls are received. =20 > Have you ever tried to use the "multiple labels" feature? If you mean by following RFC 3107, I'm not seeing why the BGP session would= need to be shutdown. If you mean that some non-compliant implementation do not work, well let's = fix them. And I don't see how making a rfc3107bis non backward compatible with RFC 31= 07 would improve the situation. ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu= ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages el= ectroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou = falsifie. Merci. 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From nobody Fri Mar 25 05:57:56 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EBEA12D6E2 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 05:57:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.702 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.702 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e31jri_2LPhi for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 05:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.33.93]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 73CC512D69E for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 05:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22359 invoked by uid 0); 25 Mar 2016 12:51:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy8.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2016 12:51:13 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw2 with id aCr31s00Z2SSUrH01Cr6KL; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 06:51:11 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Nal1iQz4 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=-NfooI8aBGcA:10 a=uEJ9t1CZtbIA:10 a=7OsogOcEt9IA:10 a=wU2YTnxGAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=0FD05c-RAAAA:8 a=_rSYUE6gUGVMZzqpyoYA:9 a=Z6xlZOL5O4X4Vdzk:21 a=-ZIw7KEMIBtpeSl3:21 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:Cc:References:To:Subject; bh=vob2eic7CIrYKPYxjrB1kIPzejdgZQYZklbVAtb0WMo=; b=W2aOrc6Kw+Civ6DMZCBzOw2XuB EtVgGiL0v97G3WkW+epszXMX7D63iAfeSWHzJNX7voCjCHIn7qoH6mOwlKCX9GtVQ6TKZchSnihr4 O14E2eCXpS2XvtzI48mNCEiaU; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:60413 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ajRCj-0002BT-9I; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 06:51:05 -0600 To: Gregory Mirsky , Loa Andersson , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" References: <20160315210754.7666.49708.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A0D437@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> <56E88F6B.8010506@labn.net> <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A0D5AC@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> <56E951B5.2050803@labn.net> <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A0DE4E@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> <56E96B46.1060706@labn.net> <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A0E248@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <56F5342F.2080002@labn.net> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 08:50:55 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A0E248@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , TEAS WG Subject: Re: [mpls] [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 12:57:55 -0000 Greg, Sorry for not responding before the ID cutoff. I think this is fine, but why not go a step further and have the nodes that have the limitation indicate that RTM can't be used, e.g., clear the RTM_SET Attribute Flag and/or remove the RTM_SET TLV to notify the ingress of the issue. This would allow the automatic detection of the (corner) cases were there are actual issues and let RTM operate properly in the common case. Lou On 3/16/2016 3:11 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: > Hi Lou, > following the discussion we propose the following new paragraph before Section 4.7.1: > There are scenarios when some information is removed from an RRO due > to policy processing (e.g., as may happen between providers) or RRO > is limited due to size constraints . Such changes affect the core > assumption of the method to control processing of RTM packets. RTM > SHOULD NOT be used if it is not guaranteed that RRO contains complete > information. > > Hope that would address your concern with potential blackholed RTM packets. > > Regards, > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 7:19 AM > To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org > Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG > Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > > Greg, > What happens when some information is removed from an RRO due to policy processing (e.g., as may happen between providers). Couldn't the TTL calculation some up too small if the wrong SOs are removed, and wouldn't this result in a black hole of actual RTM messages? How do you cover this case? > > Thanks, > Lou > > On 3/16/2016 10:15 AM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: >> Hi Lou, >> thank you for the detailed explanation of the case. I agree that there could be other ways to handle it from what been described in the document. If a node ID of the first node in the RTM_SET TLV is not found in the RRO list, then the TTL will be set to 255 and packet will not be processed by intermediate RTM-capable nodes but arrive at LSP egress LSR. Thus not all RTM capable nodes will be accounted for in the Scratch Pad but still some nodes may. I'll add some text to highlight this case. >> >> Regards, >> Greg >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 5:30 AM >> To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org >> Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG >> Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for >> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >> >> Greg, >> >> Thanks for the response. See below. >> >> On March 15, 2016 6:56:34 PM Gregory Mirsky wrote: >> >>> Hi Lou, >>> >>> thank you for the most detailed comments. Please find my notes >>> in-line tagged GIM>>. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Greg >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 3:41 PM >>> To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org >>> Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG >>> Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for >>> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Greg, >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/15/2016 5:13 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> this version primarily addresses comments related to the proposed >>> extensions to RSVP-TE and operation of the control plane in support >>> of Residence Time Measurement. Would appreciate the confirmation from Lou. >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't think I saw a response to: >>> >>>> I think this doesn't always work, e.g., when RRO is modified due to >>>> policy or limited due to size constraints. This has to be addressed. >>>> I can see how to easily detect this situation, but not how to get >>>> the number of non-supporting hops. I guess it's always possible to >>>> play ttl comparison games, but that's pretty ugly too. Any >>>> thoughts? >>> GIM>> The following text in Section 4.7 intended to handle the >>> situation you've described: >>> >>> If the node cannot find matching ID in RRO, >>> >>> then it MUST try to use ID of the next node in the RTM_SET until >>> it >>> >>> finds the match or reaches the end of RTM_SET TLV. If match have >>> >>> been found, then the calculated value is used by the node as TTL >>> >>> value in outgoing label to reach the next RTM capable node on the >>> >>> LSP. Otherwise, the TTL value MUST be set to 255. >>> >>> In essence, the node tries to locate the closest to it downstream >>> RTM-capable node. Otherwise, it sets TTL to 255 so that the RTM >>> packets arrive at egress LER. >>> >> So this doesn't cover the case where there are holes in the RRO -- which I think then translates to RTM black holes. Also not covered is what happens during Resv processing if there is no room (or a policy) against adding local information. >> >> Perhaps it would just be better to add a section that explicitly states that the defined mechanism only works in cases where full RRO is supported (i.e., where RRO is not limited due to size constraints or otherwise impacted due to policy)? -- not saying I like this, I just think it fills the open gaps in the spec - but at the price of limiting applicability. I haven't spent too much time thinking about this so there may be a better solution out there. >> >> Lou >> >>> >>> >>> Parts of Sections 4.6 and 4.7 are a bit rough and could stand a >>> reread and editorial pass. >>> >>> GIM>> I'm trying. >>> >>> >>> >>> Section 4.7 says PathErr messages are sent in response to Resv >>> processing error. This is clearly wrong. >>> >>> GIM>> Great catch! I'm ready to update to ResvErr in -06. >>> >>> >>> >>> Lou >>> >>> >>> >>>> Authors always welcome comments and questions about RTM. >>>> Regards, >>>> Greg >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >>> [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] >>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:08 PM >>>> To: Alexander Vainshtein; Gregory Mirsky; Stefano Ruffini; John >>>> Drake; Sasha Vainshtein; Eric Gray; Stewart Bryant; Eric Gray >>>> Subject: New Version Notification for >>>> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>>> A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>>> has been successfully submitted by Greg Mirsky and posted to the >>> IETF repository. >>> >>>> Name: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time >>>> Revision: 05 >>>> Title: Residence Time Measurement in MPLS network >>>> Document date: 2016-03-15 >>>> Group: mpls >>>> Pages: 26 >>>> URL: >>> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >>> .txt >>> >>>> Status: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time/ >>> >>>> Htmlized: >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >>> >>>> Diff: >>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >>> >>>> Abstract: >>>> This document specifies G-ACh based Residence Time Measurement >>>> and >>>> how it can be used by time synchronization protocols being >>>> transported over MPLS domain. >>>> Residence time is the variable part of propagation delay of >>>> timing >>>> and synchronization messages and knowing what this delay is for >>>> each >>>> message allows for a more accurate determination of the delay to >>>> be >>>> taken into account in applying the value included in a PTP event >>>> message. >>>> >>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at >>> tools.ietf.org. >>> >>>> The IETF Secretariat >>>> _______________________________________________ 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IETF meeting. I agree, that there could be different ways a node can handle the RRO limit= ation. I addition to those you've suggested node may change RTM Capability = state advertised in IGP-TE. I think that the choice can be left to a develo= per. I've published the -06 version with all updates noted in my mail before the= cut-off and if you agree with the changes perhaps Loa can start the WGLC a= t the most suitable time. Regards, Greg -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 5:51 AM To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-reside= nce-time-05.txt Greg, Sorry for not responding before the ID cutoff.=20 I think this is fine, but why not go a step further and have the nodes that= have the limitation indicate that RTM can't be used, e.g., clear the RTM_S= ET Attribute Flag and/or remove the RTM_SET TLV to notify the ingress of t= he issue. This would allow the automatic detection of the (corner) cases were there are actual issues and let RTM operate properly in= the common case. Lou On 3/16/2016 3:11 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: > Hi Lou, > following the discussion we propose the following new paragraph before Se= ction 4.7.1: > There are scenarios when some information is removed from an RRO due > to policy processing (e.g., as may happen between providers) or RRO > is limited due to size constraints . Such changes affect the core > assumption of the method to control processing of RTM packets. RTM > SHOULD NOT be used if it is not guaranteed that RRO contains complete > information. > > Hope that would address your concern with potential blackholed RTM packet= s. > > Regards, > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 7:19 AM > To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org > Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG > Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for=20 > draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > > Greg, > What happens when some information is removed from an RRO due to poli= cy processing (e.g., as may happen between providers). Couldn't the TTL ca= lculation some up too small if the wrong SOs are removed, and wouldn't this= result in a black hole of actual RTM messages? How do you cover this case= ? > > Thanks, > Lou > > On 3/16/2016 10:15 AM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: >> Hi Lou, >> thank you for the detailed explanation of the case. I agree that there c= ould be other ways to handle it from what been described in the document. I= f a node ID of the first node in the RTM_SET TLV is not found in the RRO li= st, then the TTL will be set to 255 and packet will not be processed by int= ermediate RTM-capable nodes but arrive at LSP egress LSR. Thus not all RTM = capable nodes will be accounted for in the Scratch Pad but still some nodes= may. I'll add some text to highlight this case. >> >> Regards, >> Greg >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 5:30 AM >> To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org >> Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG >> Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for=20 >> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >> >> Greg, >> >> Thanks for the response. See below. >> >> On March 15, 2016 6:56:34 PM Gregory Mirsky wrote: >> >>> Hi Lou, >>> >>> thank you for the most detailed comments. Please find my notes=20 >>> in-line tagged GIM>>. >>> >>> =20 >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Greg >>> >>> =20 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 3:41 PM >>> To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org >>> Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG >>> Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for=20 >>> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>> >>> =20 >>> >>> =20 >>> >>> Greg, >>> >>> =20 >>> >>> On 3/15/2016 5:13 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> this version primarily addresses comments related to the proposed >>> extensions to RSVP-TE and operation of the control plane in support=20 >>> of Residence Time Measurement. Would appreciate the confirmation from L= ou. >>> >>> =20 >>> >>> I don't think I saw a response to: >>> >>>> I think this doesn't always work, e.g., when RRO is modified due to=20 >>>> policy or limited due to size constraints. This has to be addressed. >>>> I can see how to easily detect this situation, but not how to get=20 >>>> the number of non-supporting hops. I guess it's always possible to=20 >>>> play ttl comparison games, but that's pretty ugly too. Any=20 >>>> thoughts? >>> GIM>> The following text in Section 4.7 intended to handle the >>> situation you've described: >>> >>> If the node cannot find matching ID in RRO, >>> >>> then it MUST try to use ID of the next node in the RTM_SET until=20 >>> it >>> >>> finds the match or reaches the end of RTM_SET TLV. If match have >>> >>> been found, then the calculated value is used by the node as TTL >>> >>> value in outgoing label to reach the next RTM capable node on the >>> >>> LSP. Otherwise, the TTL value MUST be set to 255. >>> >>> In essence, the node tries to locate the closest to it downstream=20 >>> RTM-capable node. Otherwise, it sets TTL to 255 so that the RTM=20 >>> packets arrive at egress LER. >>> >> So this doesn't cover the case where there are holes in the RRO -- which= I think then translates to RTM black holes. Also not covered is what happ= ens during Resv processing if there is no room (or a policy) against adding= local information. >> >> Perhaps it would just be better to add a section that explicitly states = that the defined mechanism only works in cases where full RRO is supported= (i.e., where RRO is not limited due to size constraints or otherwise impac= ted due to policy)? -- not saying I like this, I just think it fills the op= en gaps in the spec - but at the price of limiting applicability. I haven'= t spent too much time thinking about this so there may be a better solution= out there. >> >> Lou >> >>> =20 >>> >>> Parts of Sections 4.6 and 4.7 are a bit rough and could stand a=20 >>> reread and editorial pass. >>> >>> GIM>> I'm trying. >>> >>> =20 >>> >>> Section 4.7 says PathErr messages are sent in response to Resv=20 >>> processing error. This is clearly wrong. >>> >>> GIM>> Great catch! I'm ready to update to ResvErr in -06. >>> >>> =20 >>> >>> Lou >>> >>> =20 >>> >>>> Authors always welcome comments and questions about RTM. >>>> Regards, >>>> Greg >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >>> [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] >>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:08 PM >>>> To: Alexander Vainshtein; Gregory Mirsky; Stefano Ruffini; John=20 >>>> Drake; Sasha Vainshtein; Eric Gray; Stewart Bryant; Eric Gray >>>> Subject: New Version Notification for=20 >>>> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>>> A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>>> has been successfully submitted by Greg Mirsky and posted to the >>> IETF repository. >>> >>>> Name: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time >>>> Revision: 05 >>>> Title: Residence Time Measurement in MPLS network >>>> Document date: 2016-03-15 >>>> Group: mpls >>>> Pages: 26 >>>> URL: =20 >>> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time- >>> 05 >>> .txt >>> >>>> Status: =20 >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time/ >>> >>>> Htmlized: =20 >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >>> >>>> Diff: =20 >>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >>> >>>> Abstract: >>>> This document specifies G-ACh based Residence Time Measurement=20 >>>> and >>>> how it can be used by time synchronization protocols being >>>> transported over MPLS domain. >>>> Residence time is the variable part of propagation delay of=20 >>>> timing >>>> and synchronization messages and knowing what this delay is for=20 >>>> each >>>> message allows for a more accurate determination of the delay to=20 >>>> be >>>> taken into account in applying the value included in a PTP event >>>> message. >>>> = =20 >>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at=20 >>> tools.ietf.org. >>> >>>> The IETF Secretariat >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Teas mailing list >>>> Teas@ietf.org =20 >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >>> =20 >>> >>> =20 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Teas mailing list >>> Teas@ietf.org =20 >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >>> > > From nobody Fri Mar 25 10:05:19 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDD412D560 for ; 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WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A24A46@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , TEAS WG Subject: Re: [mpls] [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:05:14 -0000 Greg, On 3/25/2016 12:52 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: > Hi Lou, > Greatly appreciate you've found time during these extremely busy days before the IETF meeting. > > I agree, that there could be different ways a node can handle the RRO limitation. I addition to those you've suggested node may change RTM Capability state advertised in IGP-TE. I think that the choice can be left to a developer. I think the RSVP change should be in the draft as it impacts interoperability and expected behavior. Once this change is made I think the draft will be ready to progress. Lou > I've published the -06 version with all updates noted in my mail before the cut-off and if you agree with the changes perhaps Loa can start the WGLC at the most suitable time. > > Regards, > Greg > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 5:51 AM > To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org > Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG > Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > > Greg, > Sorry for not responding before the ID cutoff. > > I think this is fine, but why not go a step further and have the nodes that have the limitation indicate that RTM can't be used, e.g., clear the RTM_SET Attribute Flag and/or remove the RTM_SET TLV to notify the ingress of the issue. This would allow the automatic detection of the > (corner) cases were there are actual issues and let RTM operate properly in the common case. > > Lou > > On 3/16/2016 3:11 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: >> Hi Lou, >> following the discussion we propose the following new paragraph before Section 4.7.1: >> There are scenarios when some information is removed from an RRO due >> to policy processing (e.g., as may happen between providers) or RRO >> is limited due to size constraints . Such changes affect the core >> assumption of the method to control processing of RTM packets. RTM >> SHOULD NOT be used if it is not guaranteed that RRO contains complete >> information. >> >> Hope that would address your concern with potential blackholed RTM packets. >> >> Regards, >> Greg >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 7:19 AM >> To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org >> Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG >> Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for >> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >> >> Greg, >> What happens when some information is removed from an RRO due to policy processing (e.g., as may happen between providers). Couldn't the TTL calculation some up too small if the wrong SOs are removed, and wouldn't this result in a black hole of actual RTM messages? How do you cover this case? >> >> Thanks, >> Lou >> >> On 3/16/2016 10:15 AM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: >>> Hi Lou, >>> thank you for the detailed explanation of the case. I agree that there could be other ways to handle it from what been described in the document. If a node ID of the first node in the RTM_SET TLV is not found in the RRO list, then the TTL will be set to 255 and packet will not be processed by intermediate RTM-capable nodes but arrive at LSP egress LSR. Thus not all RTM capable nodes will be accounted for in the Scratch Pad but still some nodes may. I'll add some text to highlight this case. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Greg >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 5:30 AM >>> To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org >>> Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG >>> Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for >>> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>> >>> Greg, >>> >>> Thanks for the response. See below. >>> >>> On March 15, 2016 6:56:34 PM Gregory Mirsky wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Lou, >>>> >>>> thank you for the most detailed comments. Please find my notes >>>> in-line tagged GIM>>. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Greg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 3:41 PM >>>> To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org >>>> Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG >>>> Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for >>>> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Greg, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/15/2016 5:13 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> this version primarily addresses comments related to the proposed >>>> extensions to RSVP-TE and operation of the control plane in support >>>> of Residence Time Measurement. Would appreciate the confirmation from Lou. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't think I saw a response to: >>>> >>>>> I think this doesn't always work, e.g., when RRO is modified due to >>>>> policy or limited due to size constraints. This has to be addressed. >>>>> I can see how to easily detect this situation, but not how to get >>>>> the number of non-supporting hops. I guess it's always possible to >>>>> play ttl comparison games, but that's pretty ugly too. Any >>>>> thoughts? >>>> GIM>> The following text in Section 4.7 intended to handle the >>>> situation you've described: >>>> >>>> If the node cannot find matching ID in RRO, >>>> >>>> then it MUST try to use ID of the next node in the RTM_SET until >>>> it >>>> >>>> finds the match or reaches the end of RTM_SET TLV. If match have >>>> >>>> been found, then the calculated value is used by the node as TTL >>>> >>>> value in outgoing label to reach the next RTM capable node on the >>>> >>>> LSP. Otherwise, the TTL value MUST be set to 255. >>>> >>>> In essence, the node tries to locate the closest to it downstream >>>> RTM-capable node. Otherwise, it sets TTL to 255 so that the RTM >>>> packets arrive at egress LER. >>>> >>> So this doesn't cover the case where there are holes in the RRO -- which I think then translates to RTM black holes. Also not covered is what happens during Resv processing if there is no room (or a policy) against adding local information. >>> >>> Perhaps it would just be better to add a section that explicitly states that the defined mechanism only works in cases where full RRO is supported (i.e., where RRO is not limited due to size constraints or otherwise impacted due to policy)? -- not saying I like this, I just think it fills the open gaps in the spec - but at the price of limiting applicability. I haven't spent too much time thinking about this so there may be a better solution out there. >>> >>> Lou >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Parts of Sections 4.6 and 4.7 are a bit rough and could stand a >>>> reread and editorial pass. >>>> >>>> GIM>> I'm trying. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Section 4.7 says PathErr messages are sent in response to Resv >>>> processing error. This is clearly wrong. >>>> >>>> GIM>> Great catch! I'm ready to update to ResvErr in -06. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Lou >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Authors always welcome comments and questions about RTM. >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Greg >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >>>> [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] >>>> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:08 PM >>>>> To: Alexander Vainshtein; Gregory Mirsky; Stefano Ruffini; John >>>>> Drake; Sasha Vainshtein; Eric Gray; Stewart Bryant; Eric Gray >>>>> Subject: New Version Notification for >>>>> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>>>> A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>>>> has been successfully submitted by Greg Mirsky and posted to the >>>> IETF repository. >>>> >>>>> Name: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time >>>>> Revision: 05 >>>>> Title: Residence Time Measurement in MPLS network >>>>> Document date: 2016-03-15 >>>>> Group: mpls >>>>> Pages: 26 >>>>> URL: >>>> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time- >>>> 05 >>>> .txt >>>> >>>>> Status: >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time/ >>>> >>>>> Htmlized: >>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >>>> >>>>> Diff: >>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >>>> >>>>> Abstract: >>>>> This document specifies G-ACh based Residence Time Measurement >>>>> and >>>>> how it can be used by time synchronization protocols being >>>>> transported over MPLS domain. >>>>> Residence time is the variable part of propagation delay of >>>>> timing >>>>> and synchronization messages and knowing what this delay is for >>>>> each >>>>> message allows for a more accurate determination of the delay to >>>>> be >>>>> taken into account in applying the value included in a PTP event >>>>> message. >>>>> >>>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>>> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at >>>> tools.ietf.org. >>>> >>>>> The IETF Secretariat >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Teas mailing list >>>>> Teas@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Teas mailing list >>>> Teas@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >>>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > From nobody Fri Mar 25 11:06:00 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A3B12D5AA; 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Fri, 25 Mar 2016 11:05:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.104.162 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 11:05:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20160308184803.18600.97126.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <56F4DA7E.6020105@pi.nu> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 14:05:36 -0400 Message-ID: To: Scott Mansfield Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff1cca81fdf76052ee36ac0 Archived-At: Cc: "tom.huber@coriant.com" , Multiprotocol Label Switching Discussion List , "lihan@chinamobile.com" , "pals-chairs@ietf.org" , Ross Callon Subject: Re: [mpls] New Liaison Statement, "LS on work on MPLS-TP protection" X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 18:05:59 -0000 --e89a8ff1cca81fdf76052ee36ac0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Scott, PALS currently has two drafts in progress that are relevant to MPLS-TP PW linear protection: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-coordi= nation/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-dual-homing-protec= tion/ These drafts provide a fast protection mechanism for MPLS-TP PWs to protect dual-homed CEs against failures of their attachment circuits or PE routers. The drafts are ongoing work and were very recently updated. We hope to forward the drafts to the IESG perhaps by the Berlin IETF meeting, and would very much appreciate SG15=E2=80=99s review and comments. Cheers, Andy On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Scott Mansfield < scott.mansfield@ericsson.com> wrote: > No problem. > > I can fill in the boiler plate. Can the experts/leaders for the MSPR and > RMR provide some text as outlined by Loa below? Also please let me know > what PALS wants to say. > > Regards, > -scott. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu] > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 2:28 AM > To: Ross Callon; George Swallow > Cc: Alia Atlas; tom.huber@coriant.com; Scott Mansfield; > lihan@chinamobile.com; John Drake; Multiprotocol Label Switching > Discussion List; Deborah Brungard; Alvaro Retana; pals-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on work on MPLS-TP protection" > > All, > > I've added the pals chairs, since pseudowire protection is mentioned. > > Scott, > > I think a and polite polite response for information is needed, > including: > > - thank them for the information, > - if there is anything we need to say on pals work on (linear) > protection (Stewart and Andy need to input > - acknowledge that we will complete the work on mpls ring protection > (mention MSRP and RMR) > - wish good luck at the meeting in September > > Can you compile this. > > /Loa > > > > On 2016-03-09 02:48, Liaison Statement Management Tool wrote: > > Title: LS on work on MPLS-TP protection Submission Date: 2016-03-08 > > URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1462/ > > Please reply by 2016-05-16 > > From: "Hiroshi Ota" > > To: Loa Andersson ,George Swallow > > ,Ross Callon > > Cc: Alvaro Retana ,Deborah Brungard > > ,Multiprotocol Label Switching Discussion List > > ,Scott Mansfield ,George > > Swallow ,John Drake ,Alia > > Atlas ,Ross Callon ,Loa > > Andersson ,itu-t-liaison@iab.org, > > Response Contacts: tom.huber@coriant.com, lihan@chinamobile.com > > Technical Contacts: > > Purpose: For comment > > > > Body: ITU-T SG15 wishes to inform the IETF mpls WG of an update to the > ITU-T Q9/15 work programme to include a second amendment to Recommendatio= n > ITU-T G.8131/Y.1382 Linear protection switching for MPLS transport profil= e. > This amendment will cover pseudowire protection based on Appendix A of IE= TF > RFC 7771. The amendment is targeted for consent at the September 2016 > plenary meeting of SG15. > > > > ITU-T Q9/15 has also been made aware of the initiation of work on > MPLS-TP Shared-Ring protection (MSRP) mechanism for ring topology in > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection-00, and has consequently > re-initiated work on draft Recommendation ITU-T G.8132/Y.1383 Ring > protection switching for MPLS transport profile. As ITU-T Q9/15 intends t= o > reference and be aligned with corresponding normative RFCs, we would > appreciate your assessment of the anticipated completion date for > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection as the target consent date for > draft Recommendation ITU-T G.8132/Y.1383 depends on it. > > Attachments: > > > > Liaison > > > > > https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2016-03-08-itu-t-sg= -15-mpls-ls-on-work-on-mpls-tp-protection-attachment-1.pdf > > > --e89a8ff1cca81fdf76052ee36ac0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Scott,

PALS currently has two drafts in= progress that are relevant to MPLS-TP PW linear protection:

=

These drafts provide a fast protecti= on mechanism for MPLS-TP PWs to protect dual-homed CEs against failures of = their attachment circuits or PE routers. The drafts are ongoing work and we= re very recently updated. We hope to forward the drafts to the IESG perhaps= by the Berlin IETF meeting, and would very much appreciate SG15=E2=80=99s = review and comments.

Cheers,
Andy
<= div>

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Scott Mansfield <<= a href=3D"mailto:scott.mansfield@ericsson.com" target=3D"_blank">scott.mans= field@ericsson.com> wrote:
= No problem.

I can fill in the boiler plate.=C2=A0 Can the experts/leaders for the MSPR = and RMR provide some text as outlined by Loa below?=C2=A0 Also please let m= e know what PALS wants to say.

Regards,
-scott.

-----Original Message-----
From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 2:28 AM
To: Ross Callon; George Swallow
Cc: Alia Atlas; tom.huber@coriant.= com; Scott Mansfield; lihan@ch= inamobile.com; John Drake; Multiprotocol Label Switching Discussion Lis= t; Deborah Brungard; Alvaro Retana; pals-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on work on MPLS-TP protection&= quot;

All,

I've added the pals chairs, since pseudowire protection is mentioned.
Scott,

I think a and polite polite response for information is needed,
including:

- thank them for the information,
- if there is anything we need to say on pals work on (linear)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0protection (Stewart and Andy need to input
- acknowledge that we will complete the work on mpls ring protection
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(mention MSRP and RMR)
- wish good luck at the meeting in September

Can you compile this.

/Loa



On 2016-03-09 02:48, Liaison Statement Management Tool wrote:
> Title: LS on work on MPLS-TP protection Submission Date: 2016-03-08 > URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.or= g/liaison/1462/
> Please reply by 2016-05-16
> From: "Hiroshi Ota" <hiroshi.ota@itu.int>
> To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>,G= eorge Swallow
> <swallow.ietf@gmail.com>,Ross Callon <rcallon@junip= er.net>
> Cc: Alvaro Retana <aretana@cis= co.com>,Deborah Brungard
> <db3546@att.com>,Multiprot= ocol Label Switching Discussion List
> <mpls@ietf.org>,Scott Mansf= ield <Scott.Mansfield@Ericsson.com>,George
> Swallow <swallow.ietf@gma= il.com>,John Drake <jdrake@= juniper.net>,Alia
> Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com&g= t;,Ross Callon <rcallon@juniper.n= et>,Loa
> Andersson <loa@pi.nu>,itu-t-liaison@iab.org,
> Response Contacts: tom.huber@= coriant.com, lihan@chinamobile= .com
> Technical Contacts:
> Purpose: For comment
>
> Body: ITU-T SG15 wishes to inform the IETF mpls WG of an update to the= ITU-T Q9/15 work programme to include a second amendment to Recommendation= ITU-T G.8131/Y.1382 Linear protection switching for MPLS transport profile= . This amendment will cover pseudowire protection based on Appendix A of IE= TF RFC 7771. The amendment is targeted for consent at the September 2016 pl= enary meeting of SG15.
>
> ITU-T Q9/15 has also been made aware of the initiation of work on MPLS= -TP Shared-Ring protection (MSRP) mechanism for ring topology in draft-ietf= -mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection-00, and has consequently re-initiated work = on draft Recommendation ITU-T G.8132/Y.1383 Ring protection switching for M= PLS transport profile. As ITU-T Q9/15 intends to reference and be aligned w= ith corresponding normative RFCs, we would appreciate your assessment of th= e anticipated completion date for draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection= as the target consent date for draft Recommendation ITU-T G.8132/Y.1383 de= pends on it.
> Attachments:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Liaison
>
> https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/L= IAISON/liaison-2016-03-08-itu-t-sg-15-mpls-ls-on-work-on-mpls-tp-protection= -attachment-1.pdf
>

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Regards, Greg -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 9:58 AM To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-reside= nce-time-05.txt Greg, On 3/25/2016 12:52 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: > Hi Lou, > Greatly appreciate you've found time during these extremely busy days bef= ore the IETF meeting. > > I agree, that there could be different ways a node can handle the RRO lim= itation. I addition to those you've suggested node may change RTM Capabilit= y state advertised in IGP-TE. I think that the choice can be left to a deve= loper. I think the RSVP change should be in the draft as it impacts interoperabili= ty and expected behavior. Once this change is made I think the draft will be ready to progress. Lou > I've published the -06 version with all updates noted in my mail before t= he cut-off and if you agree with the changes perhaps Loa can start the WGLC= at the most suitable time. > > Regards, > Greg > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 5:51 AM > To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org > Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG > Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for=20 > draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > > Greg, > Sorry for not responding before the ID cutoff.=20 > > I think this is fine, but why not go a step further and have the nodes=20 > that have the limitation indicate that RTM can't be used, e.g., clear=20 > the RTM_SET Attribute Flag and/or remove the RTM_SET TLV to notify=20 > the ingress of the issue. This would allow the automatic detection of=20 > the > (corner) cases were there are actual issues and let RTM operate properly = in the common case. > > Lou > > On 3/16/2016 3:11 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: >> Hi Lou, >> following the discussion we propose the following new paragraph before S= ection 4.7.1: >> There are scenarios when some information is removed from an RRO due >> to policy processing (e.g., as may happen between providers) or RRO >> is limited due to size constraints . Such changes affect the core >> assumption of the method to control processing of RTM packets. RTM >> SHOULD NOT be used if it is not guaranteed that RRO contains complete >> information. >> >> Hope that would address your concern with potential blackholed RTM packe= ts. >> >> Regards, >> Greg >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 7:19 AM >> To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org >> Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG >> Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for=20 >> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >> >> Greg, >> What happens when some information is removed from an RRO due to pol= icy processing (e.g., as may happen between providers). Couldn't the TTL c= alculation some up too small if the wrong SOs are removed, and wouldn't thi= s result in a black hole of actual RTM messages? How do you cover this cas= e? >> >> Thanks, >> Lou >> >> On 3/16/2016 10:15 AM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: >>> Hi Lou, >>> thank you for the detailed explanation of the case. I agree that there = could be other ways to handle it from what been described in the document. = If a node ID of the first node in the RTM_SET TLV is not found in the RRO l= ist, then the TTL will be set to 255 and packet will not be processed by in= termediate RTM-capable nodes but arrive at LSP egress LSR. Thus not all RTM= capable nodes will be accounted for in the Scratch Pad but still some node= s may. I'll add some text to highlight this case. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Greg >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 5:30 AM >>> To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org >>> Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG >>> Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for=20 >>> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>> >>> Greg, >>> >>> Thanks for the response. See below. >>> >>> On March 15, 2016 6:56:34 PM Gregory Mirsky wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Lou, >>>> >>>> thank you for the most detailed comments. Please find my notes=20 >>>> in-line tagged GIM>>. >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Greg >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 3:41 PM >>>> To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org >>>> Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG >>>> Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for=20 >>>> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> >>>> Greg, >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> >>>> On 3/15/2016 5:13 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> this version primarily addresses comments related to the proposed >>>> extensions to RSVP-TE and operation of the control plane in support=20 >>>> of Residence Time Measurement. Would appreciate the confirmation from = Lou. >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> >>>> I don't think I saw a response to: >>>> >>>>> I think this doesn't always work, e.g., when RRO is modified due=20 >>>>> to policy or limited due to size constraints. This has to be address= ed. >>>>> I can see how to easily detect this situation, but not how to get=20 >>>>> the number of non-supporting hops. I guess it's always possible=20 >>>>> to play ttl comparison games, but that's pretty ugly too. Any=20 >>>>> thoughts? >>>> GIM>> The following text in Section 4.7 intended to handle the >>>> situation you've described: >>>> >>>> If the node cannot find matching ID in RRO, >>>> >>>> then it MUST try to use ID of the next node in the RTM_SET until=20 >>>> it >>>> >>>> finds the match or reaches the end of RTM_SET TLV. If match=20 >>>> have >>>> >>>> been found, then the calculated value is used by the node as TTL >>>> >>>> value in outgoing label to reach the next RTM capable node on=20 >>>> the >>>> >>>> LSP. Otherwise, the TTL value MUST be set to 255. >>>> >>>> In essence, the node tries to locate the closest to it downstream=20 >>>> RTM-capable node. Otherwise, it sets TTL to 255 so that the RTM=20 >>>> packets arrive at egress LER. >>>> >>> So this doesn't cover the case where there are holes in the RRO -- whic= h I think then translates to RTM black holes. Also not covered is what hap= pens during Resv processing if there is no room (or a policy) against addin= g local information. >>> >>> Perhaps it would just be better to add a section that explicitly states= that the defined mechanism only works in cases where full RRO is supporte= d (i.e., where RRO is not limited due to size constraints or otherwise impa= cted due to policy)? -- not saying I like this, I just think it fills the o= pen gaps in the spec - but at the price of limiting applicability. I haven= 't spent too much time thinking about this so there may be a better solutio= n out there. >>> >>> Lou >>> >>>> =20 >>>> >>>> Parts of Sections 4.6 and 4.7 are a bit rough and could stand a=20 >>>> reread and editorial pass. >>>> >>>> GIM>> I'm trying. >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> >>>> Section 4.7 says PathErr messages are sent in response to Resv=20 >>>> processing error. This is clearly wrong. >>>> >>>> GIM>> Great catch! I'm ready to update to ResvErr in -06. >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> >>>> Lou >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> >>>>> Authors always welcome comments and questions about RTM. >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Greg >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >>>> [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] >>>> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:08 PM >>>>> To: Alexander Vainshtein; Gregory Mirsky; Stefano Ruffini; John=20 >>>>> Drake; Sasha Vainshtein; Eric Gray; Stewart Bryant; Eric Gray >>>>> Subject: New Version Notification for=20 >>>>> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>>>> A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>>>> has been successfully submitted by Greg Mirsky and posted to the >>>> IETF repository. >>>> >>>>> Name: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time >>>>> Revision: 05 >>>>> Title: Residence Time Measurement in MPLS network >>>>> Document date: 2016-03-15 >>>>> Group: mpls >>>>> Pages: 26 >>>>> URL: =20 >>>> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time >>>> - >>>> 05 >>>> .txt >>>> >>>>> Status: =20 >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time/ >>>> >>>>> Htmlized: =20 >>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >>>> >>>>> Diff: =20 >>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >>>> >>>>> Abstract: >>>>> This document specifies G-ACh based Residence Time Measurement=20 >>>>> and >>>>> how it can be used by time synchronization protocols being >>>>> transported over MPLS domain. >>>>> Residence time is the variable part of propagation delay of=20 >>>>> timing >>>>> and synchronization messages and knowing what this delay is for=20 >>>>> each >>>>> message allows for a more accurate determination of the delay=20 >>>>> to be >>>>> taken into account in applying the value included in a PTP event >>>>> message. >>>>> = =20 >>>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>>> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at=20 >>>> tools.ietf.org. >>>> >>>>> The IETF Secretariat >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Teas mailing list >>>>> Teas@ietf.org =20 >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >>>> =20 >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Teas mailing list >>>> Teas@ietf.org =20 >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >>>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > From nobody Fri Mar 25 13:59:16 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2273F12D7EC for ; 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WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221A24CDF@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , TEAS WG Subject: Re: [mpls] [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 20:59:14 -0000 Great, thank you. Feel free to unicast me a diff if you'd like. Lou On 3/25/2016 4:51 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: > Hi Lou, > I'll work on the update and will post after the meeting. > > Regards, > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 9:58 AM > To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org > Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG > Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt > > Greg, > > On 3/25/2016 12:52 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: >> Hi Lou, >> Greatly appreciate you've found time during these extremely busy days before the IETF meeting. >> >> I agree, that there could be different ways a node can handle the RRO limitation. I addition to those you've suggested node may change RTM Capability state advertised in IGP-TE. I think that the choice can be left to a developer. > I think the RSVP change should be in the draft as it impacts interoperability and expected behavior. > > Once this change is made I think the draft will be ready to progress. > > Lou > >> I've published the -06 version with all updates noted in my mail before the cut-off and if you agree with the changes perhaps Loa can start the WGLC at the most suitable time. >> >> Regards, >> Greg >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 5:51 AM >> To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org >> Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG >> Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for >> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >> >> Greg, >> Sorry for not responding before the ID cutoff. >> >> I think this is fine, but why not go a step further and have the nodes >> that have the limitation indicate that RTM can't be used, e.g., clear >> the RTM_SET Attribute Flag and/or remove the RTM_SET TLV to notify >> the ingress of the issue. This would allow the automatic detection of >> the >> (corner) cases were there are actual issues and let RTM operate properly in the common case. >> >> Lou >> >> On 3/16/2016 3:11 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: >>> Hi Lou, >>> following the discussion we propose the following new paragraph before Section 4.7.1: >>> There are scenarios when some information is removed from an RRO due >>> to policy processing (e.g., as may happen between providers) or RRO >>> is limited due to size constraints . Such changes affect the core >>> assumption of the method to control processing of RTM packets. RTM >>> SHOULD NOT be used if it is not guaranteed that RRO contains complete >>> information. >>> >>> Hope that would address your concern with potential blackholed RTM packets. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Greg >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 7:19 AM >>> To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org >>> Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG >>> Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for >>> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>> >>> Greg, >>> What happens when some information is removed from an RRO due to policy processing (e.g., as may happen between providers). Couldn't the TTL calculation some up too small if the wrong SOs are removed, and wouldn't this result in a black hole of actual RTM messages? How do you cover this case? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Lou >>> >>> On 3/16/2016 10:15 AM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: >>>> Hi Lou, >>>> thank you for the detailed explanation of the case. I agree that there could be other ways to handle it from what been described in the document. If a node ID of the first node in the RTM_SET TLV is not found in the RRO list, then the TTL will be set to 255 and packet will not be processed by intermediate RTM-capable nodes but arrive at LSP egress LSR. Thus not all RTM capable nodes will be accounted for in the Scratch Pad but still some nodes may. I'll add some text to highlight this case. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Greg >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 5:30 AM >>>> To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org >>>> Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG >>>> Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for >>>> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>>> >>>> Greg, >>>> >>>> Thanks for the response. See below. >>>> >>>> On March 15, 2016 6:56:34 PM Gregory Mirsky wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Lou, >>>>> >>>>> thank you for the most detailed comments. Please find my notes >>>>> in-line tagged GIM>>. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Greg >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 3:41 PM >>>>> To: Gregory Mirsky; Loa Andersson; mpls-chairs@ietf.org >>>>> Cc: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG >>>>> Subject: Re: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for >>>>> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Greg, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 3/15/2016 5:13 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> this version primarily addresses comments related to the proposed >>>>> extensions to RSVP-TE and operation of the control plane in support >>>>> of Residence Time Measurement. Would appreciate the confirmation from Lou. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't think I saw a response to: >>>>> >>>>>> I think this doesn't always work, e.g., when RRO is modified due >>>>>> to policy or limited due to size constraints. This has to be addressed. >>>>>> I can see how to easily detect this situation, but not how to get >>>>>> the number of non-supporting hops. I guess it's always possible >>>>>> to play ttl comparison games, but that's pretty ugly too. Any >>>>>> thoughts? >>>>> GIM>> The following text in Section 4.7 intended to handle the >>>>> situation you've described: >>>>> >>>>> If the node cannot find matching ID in RRO, >>>>> >>>>> then it MUST try to use ID of the next node in the RTM_SET until >>>>> it >>>>> >>>>> finds the match or reaches the end of RTM_SET TLV. If match >>>>> have >>>>> >>>>> been found, then the calculated value is used by the node as TTL >>>>> >>>>> value in outgoing label to reach the next RTM capable node on >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>> LSP. Otherwise, the TTL value MUST be set to 255. >>>>> >>>>> In essence, the node tries to locate the closest to it downstream >>>>> RTM-capable node. Otherwise, it sets TTL to 255 so that the RTM >>>>> packets arrive at egress LER. >>>>> >>>> So this doesn't cover the case where there are holes in the RRO -- which I think then translates to RTM black holes. Also not covered is what happens during Resv processing if there is no room (or a policy) against adding local information. >>>> >>>> Perhaps it would just be better to add a section that explicitly states that the defined mechanism only works in cases where full RRO is supported (i.e., where RRO is not limited due to size constraints or otherwise impacted due to policy)? -- not saying I like this, I just think it fills the open gaps in the spec - but at the price of limiting applicability. I haven't spent too much time thinking about this so there may be a better solution out there. >>>> >>>> Lou >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Parts of Sections 4.6 and 4.7 are a bit rough and could stand a >>>>> reread and editorial pass. >>>>> >>>>> GIM>> I'm trying. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Section 4.7 says PathErr messages are sent in response to Resv >>>>> processing error. This is clearly wrong. >>>>> >>>>> GIM>> Great catch! I'm ready to update to ResvErr in -06. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Lou >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Authors always welcome comments and questions about RTM. >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Greg >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >>>>> [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] >>>>> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:08 PM >>>>>> To: Alexander Vainshtein; Gregory Mirsky; Stefano Ruffini; John >>>>>> Drake; Sasha Vainshtein; Eric Gray; Stewart Bryant; Eric Gray >>>>>> Subject: New Version Notification for >>>>>> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>>>>> A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05.txt >>>>>> has been successfully submitted by Greg Mirsky and posted to the >>>>> IETF repository. >>>>> >>>>>> Name: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time >>>>>> Revision: 05 >>>>>> Title: Residence Time Measurement in MPLS network >>>>>> Document date: 2016-03-15 >>>>>> Group: mpls >>>>>> Pages: 26 >>>>>> URL: >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time >>>>> - >>>>> 05 >>>>> .txt >>>>> >>>>>> Status: >>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time/ >>>>> >>>>>> Htmlized: >>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >>>>> >>>>>> Diff: >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-05 >>>>> >>>>>> Abstract: >>>>>> This document specifies G-ACh based Residence Time Measurement >>>>>> and >>>>>> how it can be used by time synchronization protocols being >>>>>> transported over MPLS domain. >>>>>> Residence time is the variable part of propagation delay of >>>>>> timing >>>>>> and synchronization messages and knowing what this delay is for >>>>>> each >>>>>> message allows for a more accurate determination of the delay >>>>>> to be >>>>>> taken into account in applying the value included in a PTP event >>>>>> message. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>>>> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at >>>>> tools.ietf.org. >>>>> >>>>>> The IETF Secretariat >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Teas mailing list >>>>>> Teas@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Teas mailing list >>>>> Teas@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Teas mailing list >> Teas@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >> > > From nobody Fri Mar 25 17:29:16 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF03912D739 for ; 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Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.73.100 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:29:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 20:29:11 -0400 Message-ID: From: George Swallow To: Ronald Bonica Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114b1050bf120a052ee8c4a1 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 00:29:16 -0000 --001a114b1050bf120a052ee8c4a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 With chair hat off, I really hate "reasonable", since there is really no definition of what is "reasonable". Can we find a way around this? George On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Ronald Bonica wrote: > Ross, > > I agree with Adrian's statement, below. > > Ron > > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:34:36 -0000 > > From: "Adrian Farrel" > > To: "'Ross Callon'" , > > Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call on > > draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt > > Message-ID: <064501d17bbc$49f36110$ddda2330$@olddog.co.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Ross, thanks for this notice. > > > > I need to read the IPR referenced by the disclosure, but pending that, I > do > > not support this document going forward in its current state. > > > > I think it is important for the working group to seek to develop > solutions that > > either completely unencumbered by IPR or that is available on free-to- > > implementers terms. It may turn out that this is not possible with the > > disclosed IPR, but I think the WG should try. > > > > For the avoidance of doubt: I am not making any comment on the IPR- > > holder's rights to impose whatever license they want, and I am not asking > > them to vary their terms. > > > > I do not that it would be convenient if the IPR holder updated the > disclosure > > to show that it applies to the current WG draft. > > > > Thanks, > > Adrian > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > --001a114b1050bf120a052ee8c4a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
With chair hat off, I really hate "reasonable", = since there is really no definition of what is "reasonable".=C2=A0 Can we find a way arou= nd this?

George

On Wed, M= ar 23, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Ronald Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net> wrote:
Ross,

I agree with Adrian's statement, below.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Ron

>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:34:36 -0000
> From: "Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
> To: "'Ross Callon'" <rcallon@juniper.net>, <mpls@ietf.org>
> Cc: mpls-chai= rs@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call on
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt
> Message-ID: <064501d17bbc$49f36110$ddda2330$@olddog.co.uk><= br> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"
>
> Ross, thanks for this notice.
>
> I need to read the IPR referenced by the disclosure, but pending that,= I do
> not support this document going forward in its current state.
>
> I think it is important for the working group to seek to develop solut= ions that
> either completely unencumbered by IPR or that is available on free-to-=
> implementers terms. It may turn out that this is not possible with the=
> disclosed IPR, but I think the WG should try.
>
> For the avoidance of doubt: I am not making any comment on the IPR- > holder's rights to impose whatever license they want, and I am not= asking
> them to vary their terms.
>
> I do not that it would be convenient if the IPR holder updated the dis= closure
> to show that it applies to the current WG draft.
>
> Thanks,
> Adrian
>

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We have failed to reach consensus a= nd therefore the working group last call has failed. As document shepherd, while at the IETF in Buenos Aires I will attempt to m= eet with the authors and people who commented on the draft, to see if we ca= n figure out a reasonable way forward. We will keep the WG informed of any = progress (or lack thereof). Assuming we can find a reasonable way forward, = then the working group last call will need to be repeated before the docume= nt can be progressed. Thanks, Ross (as document shepherd and WG co-chair). From: Ross Callon [mailto:rcallon@juniper.net] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:13 PM To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Gregory Mirsky; Jeff Tantsura; Ilya Varlashkin; M= ach Chen Subject: working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt Working Group, This is to initiate a two week working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-b= fd-directed-02.txt. Please send your comments to the mpls wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). 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This working group last c= all has ended. We have failed to reach consensus and therefore the working = group last call has failed.

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As document shepherd, whi= le at the IETF in Buenos Aires I will attempt to meet with the authors and = people who commented on the draft, to see if we can figure out a reasonable way forward. We will keep the WG informed of any progress= (or lack thereof). Assuming we can find a reasonable way forward, then the= working group last call will need to be repeated before the document can b= e progressed.

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Thanks, Ross

(as document shepherd and= WG co-chair).

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From: Ross Cal= lon [mailto:rcallon@juniper.net]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:13 PM
To: mpls@ietf.org
Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Gregory Mirsky; Jeff Tantsura; Ilya Varlas= hkin; Mach Chen
Subject: working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.= txt

 

Working Group,

 

This is to initiate a two week working = group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt.

 

Please send your comments to the mpls w= g mailing list (mpls@ietf.org).

 

There is one IPR disclosure on draft-mi= rsky-mpls-bfd-directed

(which was the pre-working group versio= n of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed):

https://datatracker.ietf.org/i= pr/2625/  

All the authors have stated that they a= re not aware of any other IPR that relates to this

draft.

 

This working group last call will end a= t the end of the day Friday March 25, 2016. 

 

As with any WGLC, working group partici= pants are requested to read the document

and comment. If you feel that the docum= ent is ready for publication it is appropriate to

respond to any WGLC with a short and si= mple email indicating support.

 

Ross

for the MPLS WG chairs

 

 

--_000_DM2PR05MB573726D852AAAD670556F63A5860DM2PR05MB573namprd_-- From nobody Mon Mar 28 08:11:56 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3725312DB5B for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 08:11:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.53 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W1Ygs3caLwuC for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 08:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-6.cisco.com (alln-iport-6.cisco.com [173.37.142.93]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2914912DA51 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 08:08:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=9245; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1459177692; x=1460387292; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=EvNCIRZJyp4ILU6eRj5e48ZM7P1vgd5OMOvSwadI2kM=; b=Js6Dp2EaPMEAyt2ugnj3sdaNhgusRrbdc8lpcuxglJPBGhVQosczLeCO HbyVE5MQXg6r894x5PIK+qlOA0kFGIsvYKVd1XiZclX1E92HI7ItMj59B w18KnSdBGmtKYFtZtie1q4rXTQcyYH+3I/evKLcmgEdOYJOMU3nLcrrM9 M=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0ABAgCtR/lW/40NJK1cgmJMU24PrySGY?= =?us-ascii?q?IRuAQ2BcBcBC4VqAoEgOBQBAQEBAQEBZCeEQQEBAQMBAQEBawsQAgEIEQMBAig?= =?us-ascii?q?HHwIGCxQJCAEBBA4FG4d3AwoIDrp6DYRYAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBF?= =?us-ascii?q?YEPhwKCUYI+gV8BAT0NEYJVGIIrBZcwMQEWhVqCLoMwQoF1gWYWN4cnhTGHNod?= =?us-ascii?q?UAQ8PAQFCg2VsAYdFgTQBAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,407,1454976000"; d="scan'208,217";a="254444976" Received: from alln-core-8.cisco.com ([173.36.13.141]) by alln-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 28 Mar 2016 15:08:10 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-018.cisco.com (xch-rcd-018.cisco.com [173.37.102.28]) by alln-core-8.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u2SF8Anv029399 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 28 Mar 2016 15:08:10 GMT Received: from xch-aln-016.cisco.com (173.36.7.26) by XCH-RCD-018.cisco.com (173.37.102.28) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 10:08:09 -0500 Received: from xch-aln-016.cisco.com ([173.36.7.26]) by XCH-ALN-016.cisco.com ([173.36.7.26]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 10:08:09 -0500 From: "George Swallow -X (swallow - CLEARPATH WORKFORCE MANAGEMENT INC at Cisco)" To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" Thread-Topic: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt Thread-Index: AdGFDYJvzOpZ6BbxTD2LOnYJ8T0PNwCEuqyAAABYEQAAeHWZeQ== Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 15:08:09 +0000 Message-ID: References: , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D7AD1F6A9EF247A882B4C4560FFF0B9Eciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: Ronald Bonica , "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 15:11:55 -0000 --_000_D7AD1F6A9EF247A882B4C4560FFF0B9Eciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No change to the term. Just pointing out that sellers and potential buyers = don't necessarily agree on what a reasonable fee is. On Mar 25, 2016, at 8:39 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) > wrote: Hey George, It is somewhat of an industry standard term so I don't think we can just ch= ange it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_and_non-discriminatory_licensing On that note, I'm glad I don't have to worry about FRAN terms with IPR and = drafts any more... Thanks, Acee From: mpls > on behalf = of George Swallow > Date: Friday, March 25, 2016 at 8:29 PM To: Ronald Bonica > Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" > Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed= -02.txt With chair hat off, I really hate "reasonable", since there is really no de= finition of what is "reasonable". Can we find a way around this? [https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif] George On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Ronald Bonica > wrote: Ross, I agree with Adrian's statement, below. Ron > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:34:36 -0000 > From: "Adrian Farrel" > > To: "'Ross Callon'" >, > > Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call on > draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt > Message-ID: <064501d17bbc$49f36110$ddda2330$@olddog.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" > > Ross, thanks for this notice. > > I need to read the IPR referenced by the disclosure, but pending that, I = do > not support this document going forward in its current state. > > I think it is important for the working group to seek to develop solution= s that > either completely unencumbered by IPR or that is available on free-to- > implementers terms. It may turn out that this is not possible with the > disclosed IPR, but I think the WG should try. > > For the avoidance of doubt: I am not making any comment on the IPR- > holder's rights to impose whatever license they want, and I am not asking > them to vary their terms. > > I do not that it would be convenient if the IPR holder updated the disclo= sure > to show that it applies to the current WG draft. > > Thanks, > Adrian > _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --_000_D7AD1F6A9EF247A882B4C4560FFF0B9Eciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No change to the term. Just pointing out that sellers and potential bu= yers don't necessarily agree on what a reasonable fee is. 

On Mar 25, 2016, at 8:39 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

Hey George, 
It is somewhat of an industry standard term so I don’t think we = can just change it: 


On that note, I’m glad I don’t have to worry about FRAN te= rms with IPR and drafts any more… 

Thanks,
Acee

From: mpls <mpls-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of George Swal= low <swallow.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, March 25, 2016 at 8:2= 9 PM
To: Ronald Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>
Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@i= etf.org>
Subject: Re: [mpls] working group l= ast call on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt

With chair hat off, I really hate "reasonable", = since there is really no definition of what is "reasonable". = ; Can we find a way around this?

George

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Ronald Bonica = <rbonica@junipe= r.net> wrote:
Ross,

I agree with Adrian's statement, below.

                     = ;        Ron

>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:34:36 -0000
> From: "Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
> To: "'Ross Callon'" <rcallon@juniper.net>, <mpls@i= etf.org>
> Cc: mpls-chai= rs@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call on
>       draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-02.txt
> Message-ID: <064501d17bbc$49f36110$ddda2330$@olddog.co.uk><= br> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"
>
> Ross, thanks for this notice.
>
> I need to read the IPR referenced by the disclosure, but pending that,= I do
> not support this document going forward in its current state.
>
> I think it is important for the working group to seek to develop solut= ions that
> either completely unencumbered by IPR or that is available on free-to-=
> implementers terms. It may turn out that this is not possible with the=
> disclosed IPR, but I think the WG should try.
>
> For the avoidance of doubt: I am not making any comment on the IPR- > holder's rights to impose whatever license they want, and I am not ask= ing
> them to vary their terms.
>
> I do not that it would be convenient if the IPR holder updated the dis= closure
> to show that it applies to the current WG draft.
>
> Thanks,
> Adrian
>

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Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:47:59 +0100 Received: from DFWEML501-MBB.china.huawei.com ([10.193.5.179]) by dfweml702-chm ([10.193.5.72]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 06:47:57 -0700 From: Lucy yong To: "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: BGP FS for MPLS Thread-Index: AdGJPN/nE+xMMFy+S2KBp+w3bSrBqgAg9lnA Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:47:57 +0000 Message-ID: <2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D5726D058@dfweml501-mbb> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.212.246.147] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_004_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D5726D058dfweml501mbb_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A020201.56FA8791.0211, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 32cb9f01a7021d207a19b8d23bff4ef4 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] FW: BGP FS for MPLS X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:48:43 -0000 --_004_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D5726D058dfweml501mbb_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D5726D058dfweml501mbb_" --_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D5726D058dfweml501mbb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI. Here are two drafts about BGP FlowSpec for MPLS. They specify label m= atching and label action. Label matching rule is used to filter mpls packets on data plane, an action= applies to matched packets. Actions applying to label matched packets incl= ude label action and/or other actions such as rate limit, etc. Label action applies to flowspec packets, i.e. packets passes flow spec mat= ching rules such as label matching rule, 5 tuple rules. Like to hear the comment and feedback on this. From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lucy yong Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 4:58 PM To: 'idr@ietf. org' Subject: [Idr] BGP FS for MPLS Here are two drafts that address BGP FS for MPLS. We like to get community = feedback on the proposals. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yong-idr-flowspec-mpls-match/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liang-idr-bgp-flowspec-label/ Look forward to discussing this in Buenos Aires. Lucy --_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D5726D058dfweml501mbb_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

FYI.  Here are two = drafts about BGP FlowSpec for MPLS. They specify label matching and label action. =

 

Label matching rule is used to filter mpls packet= s on data plane, an action applies to matched packets. Actions applying to = label matched packets include label action and/or other actions such as rat= e limit, etc.

 

Label action applies to flowspec packets, i.e. pa= ckets passes flow spec matching rules such as label matching rule, 5 tuple = rules.

 

Like to hear the comment= and feedback on this.

 

From: Idr [mai= lto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lucy yong
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 4:58 PM
To: 'idr@ietf. org'
Subject: [Idr] BGP FS for MPLS

 

Here are two drafts that address BGP FS for MPLS. We= like to get community feedback on the proposals.

 

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yong-id= r-flowspec-mpls-match/

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liang-i= dr-bgp-flowspec-label/

 

Look forward to discussing this in Buenos Aires.

 

Lucy

 

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I have been selected as an MPLS Review Team reviewer for
draft-saad-mpls-static-yang-02

Before adopting this draft as a WG draft I suggest to resolve/discuss
the following comments:

In general I think this draft should be split into two separate documents.
One for describing the MPLS base YANG module, and
one for describing the MPLS Static LSP module.
The latter augments the former, and the authors expect that there will
be more documents that augment the first.
(they even provide examples in the Abstract and section 2 of this draft)

The text in Section 1. Introduction needs more words than just " AAA".

I think that the remainder of the draft looks technically sound.

Minor nits:
2.
s/proposes/provides/

4.
s/memo/document/

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Best regards, Huub.



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