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X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.25.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160704045009.9336.62659.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2016 21:50:09 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis-06.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2016 04:50:09 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Detecting Multi-Protocol Label Switched (MPLS) Data Plane Failures Authors : Kireeti Kompella Carlos Pignataro Nagendra Kumar Sam Aldrin Mach(Guoyi) Chen Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis-06.txt Pages : 70 Date : 2016-07-03 Abstract: This document describes a simple and efficient mechanism that can be used to detect data plane failures in Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Paths (LSPs). There are two parts to this document: information carried in an MPLS "echo request" and "echo reply" for the purposes of fault detection and isolation, and mechanisms for reliably sending the echo reply. This document obsoletes RFCs 4379, 6424, 6829, and 7537. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Jul 5 10:55:49 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B04A12D67F; Tue, 5 Jul 2016 10:55:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.25.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160705175548.22379.35244.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2016 10:55:48 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-10.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2016 17:55:48 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Residence Time Measurement in MPLS network Authors : Greg Mirsky Stefano Ruffini Eric Gray John Drake Stewart Bryant Alexander Vainshtein Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-10.txt Pages : 26 Date : 2016-07-05 Abstract: This document specifies G-ACh based Residence Time Measurement and how it can be used by time synchronization protocols being transported over MPLS domain. Residence time is the variable part of propagation delay of timing and synchronization messages and knowing what this delay is for each message allows for a more accurate determination of the delay to be taken into account in applying the value included in a PTP event message. 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boundary="_000_HE1PR0301MB2266FC367B390DE05D1C18789D3A0HE1PR0301MB2266_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: ecitele.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 06 Jul 2016 11:03:06.4353 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 2c514a61-08de-4519-b4c0-921fef62c42a X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: HE1PR0301MB2265 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "ramakrishnadtv@infosys.com" Subject: Re: [mpls] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC3209 (4733) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2016 11:03:13 -0000 --_000_HE1PR0301MB2266FC367B390DE05D1C18789D3A0HE1PR0301MB2266_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, >From my POV the comment is obviously correct. However, I strongly doubt that in the 15 years that have passed after publi= cation of RFC 3209 any implementer of RSVP-TE (or any operator using RSVP-T= E) really did not understand that an explicit route is an ordered set of ab= stract nodes. May I suggest that it is re-classified from Technical to Editorial and hold= for update of RFC 3209 until such time it is progressed to Standard? Regards, Sasha Office: +972-39266302 Cell: +972-549266302 Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com -----Original Message----- From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of RFC Errata System Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 12:54 PM To: awduche@movaz.com; lberger@movaz.com; dhg@juniper.net; tli@procket.com;= vsriniva@cosinecom.com; swallow@cisco.com; akatlas@gmail.com; db3546@att.c= om; aretana@cisco.com; loa@pi.nu; swallow.ietf@gmail.com; rcallon@juniper.n= et Cc: mpls@ietf.org; ramakrishnadtv@infosys.com; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [mpls] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC3209 (4733) The following errata report has been submitted for RFC3209, "RSVP-TE: Extensions to RSVP for LSP Tunnels". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D3209&eid=3D4733 -------------------------------------- Type: Technical Reported by: Ramakrishna DTV > Section: 4.3.2 Original Text ------------- To formalize the discussion, we call each group of nodes an abstract node. Thus, we say that an explicit route is a specification of a set of abstract nodes to be traversed. If an abstract node consists of only one node, we refer to it as a simple abstract node. Corrected Text -------------- To formalize the discussion, we call each group of nodes an abstract node. Thus, we say that an explicit route is a specification of a sequence of abstract nodes to be traversed. If an abstract node consists of only one node, we refer to it as a simple abstract node. Notes ----- s/set/sequence A set implies ordering of abstract nodes is NOT important. A sequence implies ordering of abstract nodes IS important. In the rest of RFC 3209, this distinction is maintained, but not in this pa= ragraph. Instructions: ------------- This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "R= eply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a deci= sion is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status= and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC3209 (draft-ietf-mpls-rsvp-lsp-tunnel-09) -------------------------------------- Title : RSVP-TE: Extensions to RSVP for LSP Tunnels Publication Date : December 2001 Author(s) : D. Awduche, L. Berger, D. Gan, T. Li, V. Srinivasan, = G. Swallow Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Multiprotocol Label Switching Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --_000_HE1PR0301MB2266FC367B390DE05D1C18789D3A0HE1PR0301MB2266_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

From my POV the comment is obviously correct.

 

However, I strongly doubt that in the 15 years th= at have passed after publication of RFC 3209 any implementer of RSVP-TE (or= any operator using RSVP-TE) really did not understand that an explicit rou= te is an ordered set of abstract nodes.

 

May I suggest that it is re-classified from Techn= ical to Editorial and hold for update of RFC 3209 until such time it is pro= gressed to Standard?

 

Regards,

Sasha

 

Office: +972-39266302

Cell:      +972-5492= 66302

Email:   Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.c= om

 

-----Original Message-----
From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of RFC Errata System Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 12:54 PM
To: awduche@movaz.com; lberger@movaz.com; dhg@juniper.net; tli@procket.com;= vsriniva@cosinecom.com; swallow@cisco.com; akatlas@gmail.com; db3546@att.c= om; aretana@cisco.com; loa@pi.nu; swallow.ietf@gmail.com; rcallon@juniper.n= et
Cc: mpls@ietf.org; ramakrishnadtv@infosys.com; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [mpls] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC3209 (4733)

 

The following errata report has been submitted fo= r RFC3209,

"RSVP-TE: Extensions to RSVP for LSP Tunnels= ".

 

--------------------------------------=

You may review the report below and at:

http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D3209&eid= =3D4733

 

--------------------------------------=

Type: Technical

Reported by: Ramakrishna DTV <ramakrishnadtv@infosys.com>

 

Section: 4.3.2

 

Original Text

-------------

   To formalize the discussion, we call= each group of nodes an abstract

   node.  Thus, we say that an exp= licit route is a specification of a

   set of abstract nodes to be traverse= d.  If an abstract node consists

   of only one node, we refer to it as = a simple abstract node.

 

 

Corrected Text

--------------

   To formalize the discussion, we call= each group of nodes an abstract

   node.  Thus, we say that an exp= licit route is a specification of a

   sequence of abstract nodes to be tra= versed.  If an abstract node

   consists of only one node, we r= efer to it as a simple abstract node.

 

 

Notes

-----

s/set/sequence

 

A set implies ordering of abstract nodes is NOT i= mportant.

A sequence implies ordering of abstract nodes IS = important.

 

In the rest of RFC 3209, this distinction is main= tained, but not in this paragraph.

 

Instructions:

-------------

This erratum is currently posted as "Reporte= d". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether = it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifyin= g party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.

 

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RFC3209 (draft-ietf-mpls-rsvp-lsp-tunnel-09)=

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Title        &= nbsp;      : RSVP-TE: Extensions to RSVP for = LSP Tunnels

Publication Date    : December 200= 1

Author(s)      &nbs= p;    : D. Awduche, L. Berger, D. Gan, T. Li, V. Srinivasan,= G. Swallow

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One question we have to answer in the Shepherd Write-Up is if we are aware of existing implementations or intentions to implement the specification. This is to start the Implementation Poll. If you have or are aware of existing implementations of or intentions to implement draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp please send this information to the working group mailing list or directly to the working group chairs. /Loa mpls wg co-chair -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Thu Jul 7 20:33:18 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD3112D093 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2016 20:33:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.316 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.316 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_KAM_HTML_FONT_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lMMuzp0MnoHw for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2016 20:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.cablevision.com.ar (smtp.cablevision.com.ar [200.49.158.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34DB5126FDC for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2016 20:33:11 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c8319e92-f792e6d000001dee-e1-577f1ef56051 Received: from HERMES-MBX2.corp.cablevision.com.ar ([fe80::6027:5d96:9e1f:eed8]) by HERMES-HCAS2.corp.cablevision.com.ar ([fe80::587a:dce6:cc47:37fe%10]) with mapi id 14.03.0266.001; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 00:33:09 -0300 From: "Ger, Javier" To: "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: draft-kompella-mpls-rmr-01 Thread-Index: AdHTUGnI0ZQvLxeATUKZHAP29FgObQFdtpkQ Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 03:33:09 +0000 Message-ID: <94E7360D59AAB64F852152C5579B5F2280347CC9@HERMES-MBX2.corp.cablevision.com.ar> Accept-Language: es-AR, en-US Content-Language: es-ES X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.183.110] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_004_94E7360D59AAB64F852152C5579B5F2280347CC9HERMESMBX2corpc_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrOKsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsVyYMX2NN2vcvXhBqc3G1rcWrqS1eLzyUuM DkweS5b8ZPLYMuMWUwBTVAOjTWJeXn5JYkmqQkpqcbKtkktmcXJOYmZuapGCs6OTj2uYZ7Cn v5+SQmaKrZKxkkJBTmJyam5qXomtUmJBQWpeipIdlwIGsAEqy8xTSM1Lzk/JzEu3VfIM9te1 sDC11DVUsgvLLM4EWpdRUlJQbKWf8J0to6fxNGPB/WVMFa+vzWFqYLzUxdTFyMkhIWAiMWvB JBYIW0ziwr31bF2MXBxCArcZJbr+HmADSbAJ6ErMWb6cEcQWEVCWODKxmxXEZhbwlJj7eS7Q IA4OYaD48RcWIKaIgIbE5Y/8ENVGEn8PLQFbxSKgIrHn2EqwKbwCURJT5x8Gm84oICtx5nMr C8REcYl7U3pYIc4RkXh48TQbhC0q8fLxP6i4skTbzXmMIKuYBTIl5szTgxgpKHFy5hOWCYxC s5BMmoVQNQtJFURJvsTG23MZIWw9iRtTp7BB2NoSyxa+ZoawdSVm/DvEgikeJvHuzR+oXg+J BVc2AfVyAdmXGCXm7eiGKlKUmNL9kH0BI88qRvHi3JICveTEpJzUMmDk5OfpJefn6iUWbWIE JqQThvMm7WD89EXlEKMAB6MSD6+BeH24EGtiWXFl7iFGH2DYTWSWEk3OB6a9vJJ4QyNTCwNj U2MzUwNDCxzCSuK8U1acCxISSAcmu+zU1ILUovii0pzU4kOMTBycUg2MNzw2nIs4p83lErum 5+U2s6WaJ/luH5gtvXan7VpVySyFtomv1p/wvFL6VPDsvU7VPS06px0/mz1ZJpVZPuWi34GU iQYK3b+U5nREvmIWz/Vaa//r7vF9dVHnZlw8wM6drrBjwzvr4keLX3rzfZPb69K03P1UV8Hr m+cULr14uok3Peekn+bZNUosxRmJhlrMRcWJAApMWj1aAwAA Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] draft-kompella-mpls-rmr-01 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 03:33:18 -0000 --_004_94E7360D59AAB64F852152C5579B5F2280347CC9HERMESMBX2corpc_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_94E7360D59AAB64F852152C5579B5F2280347CC9HERMESMBX2corpc_" --_000_94E7360D59AAB64F852152C5579B5F2280347CC9HERMESMBX2corpc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hello Authors, I am sending you some comments and suggestions related to this draft. Apolog= ies in advance if some of them are not clear enough, in that case please jus= t let me know. 1. Page 4 - Ring direction. It has only 2 bits. Would they be enough? o= r Would it be needed some additional experimental bits for future use? Given= that Flags for Ring Link TLV have MBZ making the Ring Direction field into= three bits might be an option? 2. Page 6 - "A ring node indicates in its IGP updates the ring LSP signal= ing protocols it supports. This can be LDP and/or RSVP-TE. Ideally, each nod= e should support both." Should not SR be also included in the scope (since it is another option for= the MPLS control plane)? Or at least some mention about its future inclusio= n (similar to what is stated for express link in the same Page 6)? My opinion is based on that in the medium-term protection options should con= verge or at least be them available to any control plane, in this way it wil= l be a design decision how to implement the features. But maybe I am misunde= rstanding something, sorry if that is the case. 3. Page 7 - I get confused with the RSVP-TE "reverse call admission contr= ol" concept. Does it mean that BW is not reserved in both directions? If so, what happen= with backup or "other direction" path when traffic has to be sent through i= t (because current has some failure)? Can the CAC reject the request? How it= works considering the LSP are multipoint, i.e. the BW is aggregate of all r= ing nodes that will use this LSP? 4. Page 8 - I did not understand in depth the proposals for protections a= nd loop avoidance. How can I get further clarification? 5. Page 11 - Similar to comment #2 for SS and SU field related to SR. Sho= uld it be signaled in the IGP? Additionally, SS and SU have only 2 bits. Are they enough or some extra expe= rimental bit might be needed for future use? Could they change into value-ba= sed field. 6. Page 11 - Ring Announcement Phase. It might be needed to clarify that the MV value is not mandatory (Or is it?)= , and if not provisioned the lower loopback address will be taken into consi= deration to elect the Ring Master. I think that we can specify the default Mastership Value to decrease provisi= oning. Otherwise, MV must be explicitly provisioned. Would you agree? Additionally, you might replace the following text "A node is also provision= ed with a mastership value" in item 4.2 with the something like "A node may= is also be provisioned with a mastership value to modify the default one".= Do you think is a good suggestion? 7. Page 11/12 - I did not understand in depth the timers (T1, T2) and how= each node and all of them are going through different phases to elect the R= ing Master. General concept is OK, but I think a better explanation about th= e sequence, including details, would be great. I am attaching an state machi= ne proposal just in case you think it can be useful for further clarificatio= n. 8. Page 13 - Ring OAM. The default hello interval for OAM protocol is defined in 3.3ms. Although ma= y be that is dating back fron SONET/SDH, the reasons for this value are not= specified. Furthermore, the amount of lost packets to determine a fault is= not defined. On the other hand, hello interval for the LSP is defined is one second. Agai= n, the reasons for this value might be missing, since it does not allow sub-= second reconvergence nor it is defined the number of lost packets to determi= ne a failure. Do not you think that should be better to specified clearly that by default= 3 packets lost means fault? And that this values can be modified. Same for= LSP hello packets. 9. Do you think some clarification might be needed related to overlapping w= ith TI-LFA? 10. Minor comment. Page 2 - "it is imperative that MPLS handles rings well;= this is not the case today." I think this sentence is very unspecific and might lead to some confusion. T= oday MPLS is working in different topologies, including rings, with no issue= s. This proposal is improving things like redundancy on MPLS layer itself, c= onvergence time, control plane scalability, etc. but it does not mean that M= PLS is working "bad". I think it is much more precise in Page 5 paragraph "The goals of this docum= ent ..." Perhaps the statement may be changed to something like "the ring topologies,= because of their properties, can be automatically protected. MPLS doesn't e= nable that today." 11. Very minor comment. Page 10 - Ring ID 2 -> Ring ID 3 - 3rd Ring ID field on IS-IS Ring TLV Form= at Additionally, could it be possible to use enumeration on figures for ease of= referencing. I would like to thank Greg Mirsky for his time and guidance. Thanks and regards. Javier Ger Arquitectura y Tecnolog=EDa Gerencia T=E9cnica | Ingenier=EDa Tel: (+54 11)5530-4531 Cel: (+54 9 11)3926-5017 Hornos 690. CABA, CP C1272ACL Argentina Visite https://www.cablevisionfibertel.com.ar
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Hello Authors,<= /p>

 

I am sending you some comments an= d suggestions related to this draft. Apologies in advance if some of them ar= e not clear enough, in that case please just let me know.

 

1.<= span style=3D"font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">   &nbs= p;  Page 4 - Ring direction.= It has only 2 bits. Would they be enough? or Would it be needed some additi= onal experimental bits for future use? Given that Flags for Ring Link TLV have MBZ making the Ring Direction field into= three bits might be an option?

 

2.  &nbs= p; Page 6 – “A ring node indicates in it= s IGP updates the ring LSP signaling protocols it supports. This can be LDP= and/or RSVP-TE. Ideally, each node should support both.”

Should not SR be also incl= uded in the scope (since it is another option for the MPLS control plane)? O= r at least some mention about its future inclusion (similar to what is stated for express link in the same Page 6)?=

My= opinion is based on that in the medium-term protection options should conve= rge or at least be them available to any control plane, in this way it will be a design decision how to implement the featur= es. But maybe I am misunderstanding something, sorry if that is the case.

 

3.  &nbs= p; Page 7 – I get confused with the RSVP-TE &#= 8220;reverse call admission control” concept.

Does it mean that BW is no= t reserved in both directions? If so, what happen with backup or “othe= r direction” path when traffic has to be sent through it (because current has some failure)? Can the CAC reject the request? How= it works considering the LSP are multipoint, i.e. the BW is aggregate of al= l ring nodes that will use this LSP?

 

4.  &nbs= p; Page 8 – I did not understand in depth the= proposals for protections and loop avoidance. How can I get further clarifi= cation?

 

5.  &nbs= p; Page 11 – Similar to comment #2 for SS and= SU field related to SR. Should it be signaled in the IGP?=

Additionally, SS and SU ha= ve only 2 bits. Are they enough or some extra experimental bit might be need= ed for future use? Could they change into value-based field.

 

6.  &nbs= p; Page 11 – Ring Announcement Phase.

It might be needed to clar= ify that the MV value is not mandatory (Or is it?), and if not provisioned t= he lower loopback address will be taken into consideration to elect the Ring Master.

I think that we can specif= y the default Mastership Value to decrease provisioning. Otherwise, MV must= be explicitly provisioned. Would you agree?

Addi= tionally, you might replace the following text “A node is also provisi= oned with a mastership value” in item 4.2 with the something like  “A node may is also be provisioned with a mastershi= p value to modify the default one”. Do you think is a good suggestion?

 

7.  &nbs= p; Page 11/12 – I did not understand in depth= the timers (T1, T2) and how each node and all of them are going through dif= ferent phases to elect the Ring Master. General concept is OK, but I think a better explanation about the sequence, including detai= ls, would be great. I am attaching an state machine proposal just in case yo= u think it can be useful for further clarification.

 

8.  &nbs= p; Page 13 – Ring OAM.

The default hello interval= for OAM protocol is defined in 3.3ms. Although may be that is dating back f= ron SONET/SDH, the reasons for this value are not specified. Furthermore, the amount of lost packets to determine a fault= is not defined.

On the other hand, hello i= nterval for the LSP is defined is one second. Again, the reasons for this va= lue might be missing, since it does not allow sub-second reconvergence nor it is defined the number of lost packets to de= termine a failure.

Do not you think that should be better to specified clearly that by defa= ult 3 packets lost means fault? And that this values can be modified. Same for LSP hello packets.

 

9.  Do you think some clarification might be needed r= elated to overlapping with TI-LFA?

 

10.  Minor comment. Page 2 – “it is impera= tive that MPLS handles rings well; this is not the case today.”

I think this sentence is v= ery unspecific and might lead to some confusion. Today MPLS is working in di= fferent topologies, including rings, with no issues. This proposal is improving things like redundancy on MPLS layer its= elf, convergence time, control plane scalability, etc. but it does not mean= that MPLS is working “bad”.

I think it is much more pr= ecise in Page 5 paragraph “The goals of this document …”

Perhaps the statement may= be changed to something like “the ring topologies, because of their p= roperties, can be automatically protected. MPLS doesn’t enable that today.”

 

11.  Very minor comment.

Page 10 - Ring ID 2 ->= Ring ID 3  - 3rd Ring ID field on IS-IS Ring TLV Format

Additionally, could it be= possible to use enumeration on figures for ease of referencing.<= /span>

=  

= I would like to thank Greg Mirsky for his time and guidance.

 

Thanks and regards.

 

Javier Ge= r

Arquitectura y= Tecnolog=EDa

Gerencia T=E9cn= ica | Ingenier=EDa

Tel: (+5= 4 11)5530-4531

Cel: (+54 9= 11)3926-5017
Hornos 690. CABA, CP C1272ACL
Argentina

 

Visite https://www.cablevisionfibertel.com.ar
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Si usted ha recibido este e-mail por error, debera elimin= arlo de su sistema.
No debera copiar el mensaje ni divulgar su contenido= a ninguna persona.
Muchas gracias.
This message is confidential. It m= ay also contain information that is privileged or not authorized to be discl= osed. If you have received it by mistake, delete it from your system.
You= should not copy the messsage nor disclose its contents to anyone.
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__________________________________________

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XCH-RCD-016.cisco.com (173.37.102.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1210.3; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 10:25:12 -0500 Received: from xch-aln-016.cisco.com ([173.36.7.26]) by XCH-ALN-016.cisco.com ([173.36.7.26]) with mapi id 15.00.1210.000; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 10:25:12 -0500 From: "George Swallow -X (swallow - CLEARPATH WORKFORCE MANAGEMENT INC at Cisco)" To: RFC Errata System , "dhg@juniper.net" , "akatlas@gmail.com" , "db3546@att.com" , "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" , "loa@pi.nu" , "swallow.ietf@gmail.com" , "rcallon@juniper.net" Thread-Topic: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC3209 (4733) Thread-Index: AQHR12xQ5fm9GTZ6xEylYcvHzMQ7JqAOu72A Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 15:25:12 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20160706095353.B0454B80F36@rfc-editor.org> In-Reply-To: <20160706095353.B0454B80F36@rfc-editor.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.6.2.160219 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.86.249.207] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "ramakrishnadtv@infosys.com" Subject: Re: [mpls] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC3209 (4733) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 15:25:17 -0000 I totally agree that this is an improvement. I don't really see it as an error. Since the rest of the document is clear that sequence is important I doubt that anyone seriously stumbled over this. Suggest we mark this one "hold for update". George On 7/6/16, 5:53 AM, "RFC Errata System" wrote: >The following errata report has been submitted for RFC3209, >"RSVP-TE: Extensions to RSVP for LSP Tunnels". > >-------------------------------------- >You may review the report below and at: >http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D3209&eid=3D4733 > >-------------------------------------- >Type: Technical >Reported by: Ramakrishna DTV > >Section: 4.3.2 > >Original Text >------------- > To formalize the discussion, we call each group of nodes an abstract > node. Thus, we say that an explicit route is a specification of a > set of abstract nodes to be traversed. If an abstract node consists > of only one node, we refer to it as a simple abstract node. > > >Corrected Text >-------------- > To formalize the discussion, we call each group of nodes an abstract > node. Thus, we say that an explicit route is a specification of a > sequence of abstract nodes to be traversed. If an abstract node > consists of only one node, we refer to it as a simple abstract node. > > >Notes >----- >s/set/sequence > >A set implies ordering of abstract nodes is NOT important. >A sequence implies ordering of abstract nodes IS important. > >In the rest of RFC 3209, this distinction is maintained, but not >in this paragraph. > >Instructions: >------------- >This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please >use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or >rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) >can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. > >-------------------------------------- >RFC3209 (draft-ietf-mpls-rsvp-lsp-tunnel-09) >-------------------------------------- >Title : RSVP-TE: Extensions to RSVP for LSP Tunnels >Publication Date : December 2001 >Author(s) : D. Awduche, L. Berger, D. Gan, T. Li, V. >Srinivasan, G. Swallow >Category : PROPOSED STANDARD >Source : Multiprotocol Label Switching >Area : Routing >Stream : IETF >Verifying Party : IESG > From nobody Fri Jul 8 10:35:41 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DAEF12D678; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 10:35:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.25.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160708173536.32201.89955.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 10:35:36 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-rmr-02.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 17:35:37 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Resilient MPLS Rings Authors : Kireeti Kompella Luis M. Contreras Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-rmr-02.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2016-07-08 Abstract: This document describes the use of the MPLS control and data planes on ring topologies. It describes the special nature of rings, and proceeds to show how MPLS can be effectively used in such topologies. It describes how MPLS rings are configured, auto-discovered and signaled, as well as how the data plane works. Companion documents describe the details of discovery and signaling for specific protocols. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-rmr/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-rmr-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-rmr-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Jul 8 10:48:24 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5996A12D124; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 10:48:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.25.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160708174817.32205.27787.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 10:48:17 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang-01.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 17:48:17 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : A YANG Data Model for MPLS Static LSPs Authors : Tarek Saad Kamran Raza Rakesh Gandhi Xufeng Liu Vishnu Pavan Beeram Himanshu Shah Igor Bryskin Xia Chen Raqib Jones Bin Wen Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang-01.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2016-07-08 Abstract: This document contains the specification for the MPLS Static Label Switched Paths (LSPs) YANG model. The model allows for the provisioning of static LSP(s) on LER(s) and LSR(s) devices along a LSP path without the dependency on any signaling protocol. The MPLS Static LSP model augments the MPLS base YANG model with specific data to configure and manage MPLS Static LSP(s). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Jul 8 11:15:26 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D10D12D105; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 11:15:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.25.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160708181521.32143.46179.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 11:15:21 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-base-yang-01.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 18:15:21 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : A YANG Data Model for MPLS Base Authors : Tarek Saad Kamran Raza Rakesh Gandhi Xufeng Liu Vishnu Pavan Beeram Himanshu Shah Igor Bryskin Xia Chen Raqib Jones Bin Wen Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-base-yang-01.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2016-07-08 Abstract: This document contains a specification of the the MPLS base YANG model. The MPLS base YANG module serves as a base framework for configuring and managing an MPLS switching subsystem. It is expected that other MPLS technology YANG models (e.g. MPLS LSP Static, LDP or RSVP-TE models) will augment the MPLS base YANG model. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-base-yang/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-base-yang-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-base-yang-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Jul 8 16:17:28 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8CD12D989; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 16:17:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.25.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160708231720.32071.59924.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 16:17:20 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-spring-entropy-label-04.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 23:17:21 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Entropy labels for source routed tunnels with label stacks Authors : Sriganesh Kini Kireeti Kompella Siva Sivabalan Stephane Litkowski Rob Shakir Jeff Tantsura Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-spring-entropy-label-04.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2016-07-08 Abstract: Source routed tunnels with label stacking is a technique that can be leveraged to provide a method to steer a packet through a controlled set of segments. This can be applied to the Multi Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) data plane. Entropy label (EL) is a technique used in MPLS to improve load balancing. This document examines and describes how ELs are to be applied to source routed tunnels with label stacks. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-spring-entropy-label/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-spring-entropy-label-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-spring-entropy-label-04 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Jul 10 10:59:52 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87BCE1200DF for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 10:59:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2ZQkx2FfqnxG for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 10:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-fr.alcatel-lucent.com (fr-hpida-esg-02.alcatel-lucent.com [135.245.210.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1E1812B01B for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 10:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fr712umx4.dmz.alcatel-lucent.com (unknown [135.245.210.45]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id E4CFE371B24E5 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 17:59:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fr712usmtp2.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (fr712usmtp2.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com [135.239.2.42]) by fr712umx4.dmz.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO-o) with ESMTP id u6AHxkr4032451 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 17:59:46 GMT Received: from FR711WXCHHUB02.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (fr711wxchhub02.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com [135.239.2.112]) by fr712usmtp2.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id u6AHxkPk027434 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 19:59:46 +0200 Received: from [135.224.193.146] (135.239.27.40) by FR711WXCHHUB02.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (135.239.2.112) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.195.1; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 19:59:46 +0200 Message-ID: <57828D0C.6000100@nokia.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 19:59:40 +0200 From: Martin Vigoureux User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [135.239.27.40] Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] 2nd WG LC on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 17:59:50 -0000 WG, as said by Ross [1], I have been appointed Document Shepherd for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed [2]. As such I am also running the second WG LC. So, this e-mail starts a WG LC which will end on the 31st of July. I'd like to remind that an IPR disclosure [3] exists against this document. So it is time to state whether or not you are in favour of progressing the document. Please also take the time to review the document and post comments on its content. Please respond to this call. Thank you Martin [1]: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mpls/rxnEv4LnUiwhTiZOhowOC6AcHYU [2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed/ [2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2769/ From nobody Sun Jul 10 11:06:16 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBACD128E19 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 11:06:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.202 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.202 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AIU4rwtmOds5 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 11:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usplmg21.ericsson.net (usplmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 681231200DF for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 11:06:14 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c6180641-f796f6d000000e1e-a8-57828e5269b3 Received: from EUSAAHC002.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.78]) by usplmg21.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 3C.AF.03614.25E82875; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 20:05:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EUSAAMB103.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.120]) by EUSAAHC002.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.78]) with mapi id 14.03.0294.000; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 14:06:13 -0400 From: Gregory Mirsky To: Martin Vigoureux , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [mpls] 2nd WG LC on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed Thread-Index: AQHR2tTfUV4x8qvsy0ahBhQZ8DqID6AR9X7w Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 18:06:12 +0000 Message-ID: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221AC7500@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> References: <57828D0C.6000100@nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <57828D0C.6000100@nokia.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.12] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrLLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXSPn25QX1O4wfUWC4t5z9tZLG4tXcnq wOSxZMlPJo+7ty4xBTBFcdmkpOZklqUW6dslcGW8n/CUveAfR8XdrzNZGhh3sncxcnBICJhI XJjm3cXICWSKSVy4t56ti5GLQ0jgKKPEitYPjBDOckaJ34v2sINUsQkYSbzY2ANmiwiESPy/ eoUJxBYWsJXYcvE0C0TcTmJS1xlGCNtIYt6Kf2wgNouAqsS/5xPA6nkFfCVuTfrOCHKEkICG xIqDeiAmp4CmxMRrbiAVjED3fD+1BqyaWUBc4taT+UwQdwpILNlznhnCFpV4+fgfK4StJDHn 9TVmiHodiQW7P7FB2NoSyxa+ZobYKihxcuYTlgmMorOQjJ2FpGUWkpZZSFoWMLKsYuQoLS7I yU03MtzECIyEYxJsjjsY9/Z6HmIU4GBU4uF9UNwYLsSaWFZcmXuIUYKDWUmEl7ezKVyINyWx siq1KD++qDQntfgQozQHi5I4r/5LxXAhgfTEktTs1NSC1CKYLBMHp1QDo7uXb9g5s+9Zr/R3 70/hudgv8P/hy6e5T78XKmy3+8Vpvv4z6zYWpy3tca82u3LdCZW79klqqsWszsXv9pe9ErSo Mn8Qxzg31rYk8rXM2g3/jt4+9uv2Xnu1ovQlv97N4Aua6zh920ubqq0zd+j+uZzJq2p7xuLJ 34aNuxjezj1t5Z9wfaVVxmYlluKMREMt5qLiRAA9Yx9ZgAIAAA== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] 2nd WG LC on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 18:06:16 -0000 yes/support progressing this work as co-author. Regards, Greg -----Original Message----- From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Martin Vigoureux Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 11:00 AM To: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] 2nd WG LC on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed WG, as said by Ross [1], I have been appointed Document Shepherd for draft-ietf= -mpls-bfd-directed [2]. As such I am also running the second WG LC. So, this e-mail starts a WG LC which will end on the 31st of July. I'd like to remind that an IPR disclosure [3] exists against this document. So it is time to state whether or not you are in favour of progressing the = document. Please also take the time to review the document and post comment= s on its content. Please respond to this call. Thank you Martin [1]: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mpls/rxnEv4LnUiwhTiZOhowOC6AcHYU [2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed/ [2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2769/ _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Sun Jul 10 12:16:58 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C27F12D0C5 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:16:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rp_43oprocAm for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi0-x236.google.com (mail-oi0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C50012D09D for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi0-x236.google.com with SMTP id s66so122168847oif.1 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:16:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Am7v/NV2CnXTxvpqPIg/JlveIcptrnBh80lTDNT0+1c=; b=L0kd2ewH3LqBi8eFKjPQEPpxcMPxd/M2ZJlGKMfjNPGjdAPyyAsAOK2+Oy6Qw/MdXm u6t8kOcAPL0VjRbc989+Kmh6pAHIF3fktr+D/gXFUSJBPwUZnDo0ETLMMOxZK/0bfmlz UJ9tD90FU6REDQdud084tTZHs6a4bLcWor/ddf8B6zYJwzMJHyMBEA4gYIbeRHjjViZz DeEnM6fhdcqoRSkyYoyWzLNngnRx2HB1UbKo90/mA+mxxaP9BlabdGE+6+KklUu2BuUE PNJ75qEd+eVMOIsPEU6jHBCgp+2LIDxGhsHAns8LJbnzsDBT0C/agSuMhlPRW97yKkhu kr6Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Am7v/NV2CnXTxvpqPIg/JlveIcptrnBh80lTDNT0+1c=; b=jt9UUN2MZtcEJfWG9Qi0lsdTKnAvvSjdRa0OgdicwnBVJnVvT7bjNWRcLvvbGuxZPM 1/SE3ikTITymR5s/vpiwituvhDiDW+qp7k9lkZEGiRXN0T7mJjWIpJmPbBoprpKO+Q6+ sK8Wq9JP1N4IGEgmP+n0q1FwrY15I18zpjt8T4VimU1dVH0l/z8vHWXrnkfzupsH10eW iObu9dKw6sYyNZb7HGiN01aqUA4VIHKeEr9szR7xMzTFJWmpnl/JeWM7lrWjiXzszCyJ DkCJQcntRlP8sJBgTOe2uA4vRK30/FkONaHCWFd5nvdeor61YO66q2fClfS02wu2WxBU xVNw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJ7w8U/21zkelmS+s0lb0lL1HsK6KIpbudbXKwbY2e2T7TjnGWWBDeZ7brSHedJs4Zt6fDXcbNNcSSrPA== X-Received: by 10.157.16.43 with SMTP id h40mr7815228ote.36.1468178213771; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:16:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.68.231 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:16:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <57828D0C.6000100@nokia.com> References: <57828D0C.6000100@nokia.com> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 15:16:34 -0400 Message-ID: To: Martin Vigoureux Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1135bf38e6204f05374ce026 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] 2nd WG LC on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 19:16:56 -0000 --001a1135bf38e6204f05374ce026 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Martin, I supported this draft going forward on its first go-around, and I still support it! It=E2=80=99s needed functionality. Cheers, Andy On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Martin Vigoureux < martin.vigoureux@nokia.com> wrote: > WG, > > as said by Ross [1], I have been appointed Document Shepherd for > draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed [2]. As such I am also running the second WG > LC. > > So, this e-mail starts a WG LC which will end on the 31st of July. > > I'd like to remind that an IPR disclosure [3] exists against this documen= t. > > So it is time to state whether or not you are in favour of progressing th= e > document. Please also take the time to review the document and post > comments on its content. > > Please respond to this call. > > Thank you > > Martin > > > [1]: > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mpls/rxnEv4LnUiwhTiZOhowOC6AcHYU > [2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed/ > [2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2769/ > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > --001a1135bf38e6204f05374ce026 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Martin,

I supported this draft going fo= rward on its first go-around, and I still support it! It=E2=80=99s needed f= unctionality.

Cheers,
Andy

On Sun, Jul 10, 201= 6 at 1:59 PM, Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com>= ; wrote:
WG,

as said by Ross [1], I have been appointed Document Shepherd for draft-ietf= -mpls-bfd-directed [2]. As such I am also running the second WG LC.

So, this e-mail starts a WG LC which will end on the 31st of July.

I'd like to remind that an IPR disclosure [3] exists against this docum= ent.

So it is time to state whether or not you are in favour of progressing the = document. Please also take the time to review the document and post comment= s on its content.

Please respond to this call.

Thank you

Martin


[1]: https://mailarchive.ietf.= org/arch/msg/mpls/rxnEv4LnUiwhTiZOhowOC6AcHYU
[2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/= draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed/
[2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2769/

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Regards, Jeff > On Jul 10, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Martin Vigoureux wrote: >=20 > WG, >=20 > as said by Ross [1], I have been appointed Document Shepherd for draft-iet= f-mpls-bfd-directed [2]. As such I am also running the second WG LC. >=20 > So, this e-mail starts a WG LC which will end on the 31st of July. >=20 > I'd like to remind that an IPR disclosure [3] exists against this document= . >=20 > So it is time to state whether or not you are in favour of progressing the= document. Please also take the time to review the document and post comment= s on its content. >=20 > Please respond to this call. >=20 > Thank you >=20 > Martin >=20 >=20 > [1]: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mpls/rxnEv4LnUiwhTiZOhowOC6AcHY= U > [2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed/ > [2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2769/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Mon Jul 11 01:39:58 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7733F128874; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 01:39:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.021 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.021 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2PR0201MB1912; H:BY2PR0201MB1910.namprd02.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: metaswitch.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_BY2PR0201MB19108B768DA83D090786C5E8843F0BY2PR0201MB1910_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: metaswitch.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 11 Jul 2016 08:39:53.6280 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 9d9e56eb-f613-4ddb-b27b-bfcdf14b2cdb X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BY2PR0201MB1912 Archived-At: Cc: "teas-chairs@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "pce-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] MPLS/PCE/TEAS joint meeting agenda for IETF 96 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 08:39:56 -0000 --_000_BY2PR0201MB19108B768DA83D090786C5E8843F0BY2PR0201MB1910_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We have posted the agenda for the joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS meeting. The agenda = is the second session at the link below. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/96/agenda/pce/ If you are presenting then please send your slides to the chairs by the end= of Sunday July 17. Best regards Jon (on behalf of all chairs) --_000_BY2PR0201MB19108B768DA83D090786C5E8843F0BY2PR0201MB1910_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

We have posted the agenda for the joint MPLS/PCE/TEA= S meeting.  The agenda is the second session at the link below.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/96/agenda/pce/

 

If you are presenting then please send your slides t= o the chairs by the end of Sunday July 17.

 

Best regards

Jon (on behalf of all chairs)

 

--_000_BY2PR0201MB19108B768DA83D090786C5E8843F0BY2PR0201MB1910_-- From nobody Mon Jul 11 11:20:04 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0739812D641 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 11:20:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.202 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.202 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1JMRJ1I3VEWk for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 11:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usplmg21.ericsson.net (usplmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06E4612D63C for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 11:19:59 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c6180641-f796f6d000000e1e-9d-5783e30b7135 Received: from EUSAAHC002.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.78]) by usplmg21.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 61.C1.03614.B03E3875; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 20:18:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EUSAAMB105.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.122]) by EUSAAHC002.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.78]) with mapi id 14.03.0294.000; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:19:58 -0400 From: David Allan I To: "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [mpls] 2nd WG LC on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed Thread-Index: AQHR2tTg78wL4M0bxk22LzNMxoXDz6ATi8hQ Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 18:19:58 +0000 Message-ID: References: <57828D0C.6000100@nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <57828D0C.6000100@nokia.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrMLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXSPny734+Zwg189Nha3lq5kdWD0WLLk J1MAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxreFd1gLznNW7H/UxdjA+IO9i5GTQ0LARKLz0lc2CFtM4sK9 9UA2F4eQwFFGiau7e6Gc5YwSO7/cYgKpYhMwkNjz/wsjiC0ioCxxZGI3K4gtLGArseXiaRaI uJ3EpK4zUDVGEkemTwWKc3CwCKhKfJqWCBLmFfCVeLDoCitIWEhAQ2LFQT0Qk1NAU2LiNTeQ Ckagc76fWgO2lFlAXOLWk/lMEGcKSCzZc54ZwhaVePn4HyuErSQxaek5Voh6HYkFuz+xQdja EssWvmaG2CoocXLmE5YJjKKzkIydhaRlFpKWWUhaFjCyrGLkKC0uyMlNNzLcxAgM+mMSbI47 GPf2eh5iFOBgVOLhXXCvOVyINbGsuDL3EKMEB7OSCO/j20Ah3pTEyqrUovz4otKc1OJDjNIc LErivPovFcOFBNITS1KzU1MLUotgskwcnFINjOkzkptSQzf3rOtp+O/wrLBpqX+T663LJ97x VrgwzZixVGWvxIQLO+oUVsjcst66wMK+5Yj2Y9nytDVHp3DUtv15HHJrjft7h6khblcEe/cE TWRmc4141/nN00h27jubTL1/G+3/SKroMJRsaT76arHhhsMlkRwOieyrPiRqF85q+X+fu+zQ YSWW4oxEQy3mouJEAGn5iK12AgAA Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] 2nd WG LC on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 18:20:03 -0000 Hi I've read the draft, it solves a useful problem and AFAIK is technically co= mplete. I'm in favor of progressing the document. Cheers Dave -----Original Message----- From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Martin Vigoureux Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 11:00 AM To: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] 2nd WG LC on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed WG, as said by Ross [1], I have been appointed Document Shepherd for draft-ietf= -mpls-bfd-directed [2]. As such I am also running the second WG LC. So, this e-mail starts a WG LC which will end on the 31st of July. I'd like to remind that an IPR disclosure [3] exists against this document. So it is time to state whether or not you are in favour of progressing the = document. Please also take the time to review the document and post comment= s on its content. Please respond to this call. Thank you Martin [1]: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mpls/rxnEv4LnUiwhTiZOhowOC6AcHYU [2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed/ [2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2769/ _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Mon Jul 11 16:15:37 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAA812D69C; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 16:15:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.807 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.807 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham 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id 14.03.0294.000; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 19:26:52 -0400 From: Uma Chunduri To: Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [mpls] implementation poll on draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp Thread-Index: AQHR2I1xoxfgChZlTUGjCMCpD32gpqAT5LFg Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 23:26:51 +0000 Message-ID: <1B502206DFA0C544B7A604691520086369E3D505@eusaamb105.ericsson.se> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.9] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmplkeLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42KZXLonQfeXVku4wap2DovmzTOYLf7NncNs se7yKTaLW0tXsjqweCxZ8pPJY9b0NrYApigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujHXL+hgLpvJUrP30ib2B 8S5nFyMHh4SAiUTrxbguRk4gU0ziwr31bF2MXBxCAkcZJVp7JrJCOMsZJVYuXMIIUsUmoCfx cepPdhBbRMBOYuOrf2BxZoEuRolHh3lBbGEBT4m2tVegarwkDh67ygxhG0m8PbAIzGYRUJW4 96kVzOYV8JW4NfsZC4gtJGAhsfz/C7CZnAKWEq+X3wCbwwh03fdTa5ggdolL3HoynwniagGJ 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This is being planned for implementation in our MBH = portfolio (both for controlling number of tLDP sessions that can be suppor= ted by a cell site router participating in the ring topology and less numbe= r of FEC bindings). -- Uma C. -----Original Message----- From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 1:23 PM To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] implementation poll on draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp Working Group, We are currently preparing on the Document Shepherd Write-Up for draft-ietf= -mpls-app-aware-tldp. One question we have to answer in the Shepherd Write-= Up is if we are aware of existing implementations or intentions to implemen= t the specification. This is to start the Implementation Poll. If you have or are aware of existing implementations of or intentions to im= plement draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp please send this information to the= working group mailing list or directly to the working group chairs. /Loa mpls wg co-chair --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Tue Jul 12 07:55:06 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7814912D8E6 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 07:55:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.508 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.508 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X5fBOSBA5n-f for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 07:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7787A12DD9C for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 07:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id CNO23124; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 14:17:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEMA411-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.70) by lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.99) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 15:15:23 +0100 Received: from SZXEMA510-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.173]) by szxema411-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.70]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 22:15:17 +0800 From: Mach Chen To: Martin Vigoureux , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [mpls] 2nd WG LC on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed Thread-Index: AQHR2tTpD9cXJbEW9ESnbHpb+Lp4D6AU2dY7 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 14:15:17 +0000 Message-ID: References: <57828D0C.6000100@nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <57828D0C.6000100@nokia.com> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.46.169.31] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A090206.5784FBEC.0118, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.3.173, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 8c6964d845eceeae081d283e33b64098 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] 2nd WG LC on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 14:55:05 -0000 Support as co-author! Best regards, Mach ________________________________________ From: mpls [mpls-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Martin Vigoureux [martin.vi= goureux@nokia.com] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 1:59 To: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] 2nd WG LC on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed WG, as said by Ross [1], I have been appointed Document Shepherd for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed [2]. As such I am also running the second WG LC. So, this e-mail starts a WG LC which will end on the 31st of July. I'd like to remind that an IPR disclosure [3] exists against this document. So it is time to state whether or not you are in favour of progressing the document. Please also take the time to review the document and post comments on its content. Please respond to this call. Thank you Martin [1]: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mpls/rxnEv4LnUiwhTiZOhowOC6AcHYU [2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed/ [2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2769/ _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls= From nobody Tue Jul 12 10:10:33 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0486C12D1B7 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 10:10:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.202 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.202 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Nj9URJvJpPrt for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 10:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usplmg21.ericsson.net (usplmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBD6F12D100 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 10:10:30 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c6180641-f796f6d000000e1e-48-57852442a370 Received: from EUSAAHC006.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.90]) by usplmg21.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 34.21.03614.24425875; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:09:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EUSAAMB105.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.122]) by EUSAAHC006.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.90]) with mapi id 14.03.0294.000; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 13:10:29 -0400 From: Uma Chunduri To: Martin Vigoureux , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [mpls] 2nd WG LC on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed Thread-Index: AQHR2tTgWFqlpcwEvUSh66vbY5B2v6AVCp7Q Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 17:10:28 +0000 Message-ID: <1B502206DFA0C544B7A604691520086369E409BB@eusaamb105.ericsson.se> References: <57828D0C.6000100@nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <57828D0C.6000100@nokia.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.9] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrLLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPlK6TSmu4wb1bahbznrezWNxaupLV gcljyZKfTB53b11iCmCK4rJJSc3JLEst0rdL4Mo4vecVS8F7jooja46wNzCuZu9i5OSQEDCR +P6rlwXCFpO4cG89WxcjF4eQwFFGiaU3JjNBOMsZJW7s/M0IUsUmoCfxcepPsG4RgRCJ/1ev MIHYwgK2ElsunmaBiNtJTOo6A1TPAWQbScy/GAISZhFQlWg89IkNxOYV8JV4sWoDC0iJkICG xIqDeiAmp4CmxMRrbiAVjEDnfD+1Bmw4s4C4xK0n85kgzhSQWLLnPDOELSrx8vE/VghbUWJf /3R2iHodiQW7ITYxC2hLLFv4mhliq6DEyZlPWCYwis5CMnYWkpZZSFpmIWlZwMiyipGjtLgg JzfdyHATIzASjkmwOe5g3NvreYhRgINRiYd3wb3mcCHWxLLiytxDjBIczEoivAcVWsOFeFMS K6tSi/Lji0pzUosPMUpzsCiJ8+q/VAwXEkhPLEnNTk0tSC2CyTJxcEo1MHpKVHgaCYYuDY52 j5UxLFM5K23gmithYduyvuf2Bq8Dk/dzLdZZkdk74enpCwsd92U0CrdbLe+vvZ7lInW6Uv7u kevVXfy2jH7mTbranm1/ag8tOZGjeqO2gO/jgXrGvqluexwtzm60kdcIzm/QO7ZSlTvdpLat Zmne2zlfanMZWYxs4w8qsRRnJBpqMRcVJwIAzHoLi4ACAAA= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] 2nd WG LC on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 17:10:32 -0000 Support for progressing the document. -- Uma C. -----Original Message----- From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Martin Vigoureux Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 11:00 AM To: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] 2nd WG LC on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed WG, as said by Ross [1], I have been appointed Document Shepherd for draft-ietf= -mpls-bfd-directed [2]. As such I am also running the second WG LC. So, this e-mail starts a WG LC which will end on the 31st of July. I'd like to remind that an IPR disclosure [3] exists against this document. So it is time to state whether or not you are in favour of progressing the = document. Please also take the time to review the document and post comment= s on its content. Please respond to this call. Thank you Martin [1]: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mpls/rxnEv4LnUiwhTiZOhowOC6AcHYU [2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed/ [2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2769/ _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Tue Jul 12 15:22:05 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C39D12DA66; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 15:21:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.889 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.889 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NS_Stj_PO1Wk; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 15:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5DC012DA79; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 15:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id A1ED5B80DF2; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 15:21:47 -0700 (PDT) To: ramakrishnadtv@infosys.com, awduche@movaz.com, lberger@movaz.com, dhg@juniper.net, tli@procket.com, vsriniva@cosinecom.com, swallow@cisco.com X-PHP-Originating-Script: 30:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20160712222147.A1ED5B80DF2@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 15:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org, iesg@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [mpls] [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC3209 (4733) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 22:21:57 -0000 The following errata report has been held for document update for RFC3209, "RSVP-TE: Extensions to RSVP for LSP Tunnels". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3209&eid=4733 -------------------------------------- Status: Held for Document Update Type: Editorial Reported by: Ramakrishna DTV Date Reported: 2016-07-06 Held by: Deborah Brungard (IESG) Section: 4.3.2 Original Text ------------- To formalize the discussion, we call each group of nodes an abstract node. Thus, we say that an explicit route is a specification of a set of abstract nodes to be traversed. If an abstract node consists of only one node, we refer to it as a simple abstract node. Corrected Text -------------- To formalize the discussion, we call each group of nodes an abstract node. Thus, we say that an explicit route is a specification of a sequence of abstract nodes to be traversed. If an abstract node consists of only one node, we refer to it as a simple abstract node. Notes ----- s/set/sequence A set implies ordering of abstract nodes is NOT important. A sequence implies ordering of abstract nodes IS important. In the rest of RFC 3209, this distinction is maintained, but not in this paragraph. -------------------------------------- RFC3209 (draft-ietf-mpls-rsvp-lsp-tunnel-09) -------------------------------------- Title : RSVP-TE: Extensions to RSVP for LSP Tunnels Publication Date : December 2001 Author(s) : D. Awduche, L. Berger, D. Gan, T. Li, V. Srinivasan, G. Swallow Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Multiprotocol Label Switching Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Wed Jul 13 14:42:12 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A8B12D7FC; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:42:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.889 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.889 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m0f8Fz16-G0o; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 006F912D688; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id D6233B80FD2; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:42:09 -0700 (PDT) To: alexander.okonnikov@gmail.com, Markus.Jork@genband.com, alia.atlas@bt.com, lufang@cisco.com X-PHP-Originating-Script: 30:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20160713214209.D6233B80FD2@rfc-editor.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org, iesg@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [mpls] [Errata Rejected] RFC5443 (4686) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 21:42:11 -0000 The following errata report has been rejected for RFC5443, "LDP IGP Synchronization". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5443&eid=4686 -------------------------------------- Status: Rejected Type: Technical Reported by: Alexander Okonnikov Date Reported: 2016-05-06 Rejected by: Deborah Brungard (IESG) Section: 3 Original Text ------------- Corrected Text -------------- (At the end of the section) In case of OSPF while router advertises maximum cost, virtual link(s) that cross link under question, could be broken. This is because virtual link, which underlying path has cost greater than 0xFFFF, considered as inoperational. As a result, virtually connected area(s) could be isolated from backbone. Notes ----- In case there are two or more links on path taken by virtual link, and one of them has max link cost, path metric will exceed value 0xffff. As a result virtual link will become inoperational. --VERIFIER NOTES-- This update requires consensus by the Working Group. -------------------------------------- RFC5443 (draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-igp-sync-04) -------------------------------------- Title : LDP IGP Synchronization Publication Date : March 2009 Author(s) : M. Jork, A. Atlas, L. 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client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AC08E18013E4; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 18:24:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Loa Andersson To: "mpls@ietf.org" Message-ID: <4e2720d2-6a96-d5a3-f875-ba0b84e83394@pi.nu> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 18:24:07 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] preparing draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis for working group last call X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 16:24:16 -0000 Working Group, The authors have told us that the document is ready for working group last call, there are a few things we need to complete before starting the wglc. First need to clarify what type of document we are aiming for, this mail is intended to do that. When we started the work to update RFC 4379 we fully intended to take it to Internet Standard (the top of the standards ladder). However, there are many updates to RFC 4379, and we want to capture as many of these updates as possible. RFC 6410 (section 2.2) describes the maturity level required for Internet Standard. Given how much material has been combined and updated in draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis, time is needed to ensure that no errors were inadvertently introduced. We have therefore instructed the team working on RFC4379bis to change the "Intended Status" to Proposed Standard (PS). At the same we'd like the authors to work closely (after publication of the PS) with the wg and the wg-chairs to verify when we have met the criteria to make the document an Internet Standard." Second, we need to do a IPR poll, will send a separate mail. Third, we need to do an implementation poll, will send a separate mail. These separate mails will go out shortly. /Loa for the MPLS wg chairs -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Sat Jul 16 09:29:30 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59AB12D511; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 09:29:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.187 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.187 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yBK2Ee9oCMbg; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 09:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AAD912D0FF; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 09:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.10.4] (109.58.144.224.bredband.tre.se [109.58.144.224]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 226A718013E4; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 18:29:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Loa Andersson To: "mpls@ietf.org" Message-ID: <9e5bdf75-0bd8-8643-2c76-51e91844bf35@pi.nu> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 18:29:19 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 16:29:29 -0000 Working Group, We are currently preparing draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis for working group last call. We will do an IPR poll prior to the wglc. This is to start the IPR Poll. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bi? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). There is no IPR disclosure filed directly against this documents. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. /Loa mpls wg co-chair -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Sat Jul 16 09:30:29 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E1812D0A8; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 09:30:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.187 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.187 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id msgrVJt4scas; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 09:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BB9812D0FF; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 09:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.10.4] (109.58.144.224.bredband.tre.se [109.58.144.224]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E89B618013E4; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 18:30:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Loa Andersson To: "mpls@ietf.org" Message-ID: <360a2a19-c353-ca30-2136-ce61a5c63356@pi.nu> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 18:30:17 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] Implementation poll on draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 16:30:28 -0000 Working Group, We are currently preparing draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis for working group last call. 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DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BN3PR0501MB1377; H:BN3PR0501MB1377.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: juniper.net does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 16 Jul 2016 18:45:10.5687 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BN3PR0501MB1377 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr@ietf.org" , Vishnu Pavan Beeram Subject: Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 18:45:20 -0000 Hi Mustapha, It is precisely because the clearing of RSVP-TE session state on Merge Poin= t (MP) is "short refresh interval dependent" in RFC 4090 (under conditions = explained in section 3 "Problem Description" of the draft), the extensions = defined in the draft make RSVP-TE FRR "refresh interval independent". Hence= , it is indeed accurate to term the capability as "refresh interval indepen= dent". With this capability it would be possible to increase refresh interv= al to an arbitrarily long value (refer to Section 2.2 of draft-ietf-teas-rs= vp-te-scaling-rec-01). 2.2. Refresh Interval Independent RSVP =20 The RSVP protocol relies on periodic refreshes for state synchronization between RSVP neighbors and for recovery from lost RSVP messages. It relies on refresh timeout for stale state cleanup. The primary motivation behind introducing the notion of "Refresh Interval Independent RSVP" (RI-RSVP) is to completely eliminate RSVP's reliance on refreshes and refresh timeouts. This is done by simply increasing the refresh interval to a fairly large value. It is also because of the reasons explained above that the RI-RSVP capabili= ty cannot be an optional procedure in draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpt= e. I guess you would agree that the goal in Section 2.2. of draft-ietf-teas-rs= vp-te-scaling-rec-01 cannot be subsumed in draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary-frr-= rsvpte. In the mail sent on march 8, I have also clarified that the extensi= ons proposed in the draft are not complex - which was your earlier concern.= So, I do not think the proposal of merging the drafts is workable. Thanks, Chandra. > -----Original Message----- > From: Aissaoui, Mustapha (Nokia - CA) > [mailto:mustapha.aissaoui@nokia.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:17 AM > To: Chandrasekar Ramachandran ; Loa Andersson > > Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp- > frr@ietf.org; Vishnu Pavan Beeram > Subject: RE: MPLS-RT review of draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr >=20 > Hi Chandra, > I am sorry for the late follow-up. >=20 > My proposal to move forward with merging the conditional Path Tear > extension in this draft as an optional capability in draft-mtaillon-mpls- > summary-frr-rsvpte is based on the following analysis: >=20 > 1. It is very misleading to refer to the capability in this draft as "Ref= resh > Interval Independent FRR Facility Protection". This draft describes a met= hod > for clearing the RSVP-TE session state at a Merge-Point (MP) on an ad-hoc > basis complementing the state timeout. It is not replacing the state refr= esh > method and the state timeout. >=20 > 2. draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte defines a handshake procedure > for the PLR and MP to signal and engage in the use of the Bypass Summary > FRR Association object. So, there is no need to add a new capability. The > conditional Path Tear can be an optional procedure of PLR and MP nodes > which support the Bypass Summary FRR Association object. >=20 > Let me know if this works. >=20 > Regards, > Mustapha. >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: EXT Chandrasekar Ramachandran [mailto:csekar@juniper.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:32 AM > > To: Aissaoui, Mustapha (Nokia - CA); Loa Andersson > > Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp- > frr@ietf.org; > > Vishnu Pavan Beeram > > Subject: RE: MPLS-RT review of draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr > > > > Hi Mustapha, > > Apologies for the delay. I will be prompt for subsequent mails on this > thread. In my > > previous mail, I categorized your concerns into two. > > (A) The need for introducing refresh-interval independent behavior into > RSVP-TE > > (B) Why some kind of local implementation based timers will not be > sufficient to > > support long refresh intervals > > > > Your mail sent in January seems to indicate you are either not convince= d > on the > > need for introducing refresh-interval independent behavior, or you are > not > > convinced that the extensions proposed in this draft (or the ones > proposed in > > [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec]) actually make RSVP-TE FRR refres= h- > interval > > independent. > > > > Here is my summary response to your points. I have also responded to > your > > comments separately inline. > > - The goal of the draft is not to reduce the number of triggered messag= es > between > > PLR and MP when the protected LSP is being locally repaired. The draft > addresses > > a specific gap to make RSVP-TE refresh-interval independent as > documented in > > [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec]. The key point is that if RSVP-TE= routers > are not > > constrained by short refresh timeouts, then the existing RFC 2961 > mechanisms, > > plus some minor additional mechanisms as recommended in [draft-ietf- > teas-rsvp- > > te-scaling-rec] should be sufficient to handle large LSP scale in all c= ases > (except > > FRR that [draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr] addresses). It should be note= d > that while > > reducing the number of triggered backup LSP messages would be > additional > > performance improvement, the goal of RI-RSVP is more generic and also > > encompasses make-before-break. Hence, the scope of this draft is not > limited > > reducing triggered messages as specified in draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary= - > frr- > > rsvpte. > > - It should be noted that [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec] does ma= ke a > specific > > recommendation that would address the limitation you have pointed out > with > > Message-ID-ACK mechanism. The problem you have brought up is related > to the > > lack of flow control between the RSVP-TE neighbors and Section 2.3 of > [draft-ietf- > > teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec] does address this limitation. If a router sen= ds > some > > messages that are unacknowledged, then the router can use that as an > indication > > to reduce message rate to that neighbor. In fact, RFC 2961 message-ID- > ACK > > mechanism is the key tool in achieving flow control between RSVP-TE > neighbors. > > Hence, the mechanism proposed in this draft if considered along with > [draft-ietf- > > teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec] does make RSVP-TE refresh interval independen= t. > Do you > > have specific cases in mind that are not covered by these drafts? > > - The use of implementation specific timers for scaled networks have be= en > > problematic in production networks because these timers are ad-hoc and > do not > > provide predictability to the behavior when the deployed scale increase > over time. > > Moreover, your point assumes the network uses short refresh interval so > that lack > > of reliable PathTear does not result in unacceptable level of stale sta= te > build up on > > the routers. In fact, the only two new aspects introduced in this draft > leverage > > PathTear messages (with some minor extension) to reliably remove state > from > > downstream router(s). Could you specifically point out the mechanism(s) > in the > > draft that is/are complex? > > > > Please refer inline for more detailed and specific responses. > > > > Thanks, > > Chandra. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: AISSAOUI, Mustapha (Mustapha) > > > [mailto:mustapha.aissaoui@nokia.com] > > > Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 10:00 AM > > > To: Chandrasekar Ramachandran ; Sriganesh Kini > > > ; Loa Andersson ; Lucy yong > > > > > > Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp- > > > frr@ietf.org; Guijuan Wang 3 ; Lizhong Jin > > > > > > Subject: RE: MPLS-RT review of draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr > > > > > > Hi Chandra, > > > Sorry for the late reply. See inline for some follow-up. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Mustapha. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Chandrasekar Ramachandran [mailto:csekar@juniper.net] > > > > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:41 AM > > > > To: Chandrasekar Ramachandran; Aissaoui, Mustapha (Mustapha); > > > > Sriganesh > > > Kini; > > > > Loa Andersson; Lucy yong > > > > Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp= - > > > frr@ietf.org; > > > > Guijuan Wang 3; Lizhong Jin > > > > Subject: RE: MPLS-RT review of draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr > > > > > > > > Mustapha, > > > > Did my response address your concerns? If I have understood you > > > > correctly, > > > the > > > > concerns fall in two categories and I have tried to address these > concerns. > > > > (A) The need for introducing refresh-interval independent behavior > > > > into RSVP- > > > TE > > > > (B) Why some kind of local implementation based timers will not be > > > > sufficient > > > to > > > > support long refresh intervals > > > > > > > > Do you have any specific comment on my responses? Specifically, do > > > > you still think the responses did not address (A), or (B) or both? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Chandra. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > > > > > Chandrasekar Ramachandran > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 12:58 AM > > > > > To: Aissaoui, Mustapha (Mustapha) > > > > > ; > > > > > Sriganesh Kini ; Loa Andersson > > > > > ; Lucy yong > > > > > Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; > > > > > draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp- frr@ietf.org; Guijuan Wang 3 > > > > > ; Lizhong Jin > > > > > Subject: Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of > > > > > draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr > > > > > > > > > > Mustapha, > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Aissaoui, Mustapha (Mustapha) > > > > > > [mailto:mustapha.aissaoui@alcatel- > > > > > > lucent.com] > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 8:48 AM > > > > > > To: Sriganesh Kini ; Loa Andersson > > > > > > ; Lucy yong > > > > > > Cc: Lizhong Jin ; Guijuan Wang 3 > > > > > > ; > > > > > > draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr@ietf.org; > > > > > > mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Aissaoui, Mustapha (Mustapha) > > > > > > ; mpls@ietf.org > > > > > > Subject: RE: MPLS-RT review of draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear authors, > > > > > > I read this draft and I believe the intent is to provide a > > > > > > tighter control plane synchronization of the PLR and MP roles o= n > > > > > > a per RSVP session basis such that a LSR will know if it is a M= P > > > > > > for a given RSVP session which requested protection. This is > > > > > > done such that the decision to retain or delete the state by th= e > > > > > > LSR detecting the failure of the link to the previous hop (or > > > > > > the failure of the previous hop itself) is made with the prior > > > > > > knowledge that the LSR is a MP > > > or > > > > not on a per RSVP session basis. > > > > > > > > > > [Chandra] The primary motivation of the draft is to enable LSRs t= o > > > > > support FRR when the LSP scale on the LSR is of the order of > > > > > hundreds of thousands. The analysis of the bottlenecks as a > > > > > consequence of LSP scale, that can cause disruption of the LSR ha= s > > > > > already been documented in RFC 5439. As analyzed in RFC 5439, > > > > > while there is a correlation between the percentage increase in > > > > > refresh time and the improvement in LSR performance, there is a > > > > > degree of functionality that is lost owing to the soft-state > > > > > nature of the protocol. TE- SCALE-REC > > > > > (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-= 0 > > > > > 0) outlines the motivation for refresh independent RSVP (RI-RSVP) > > > > > for all types of LSPs (packet or non-packet), and makes > > > > > recommendations to enable RSVP implementations eliminate the > > > > > reliance on short refresh time. This draft addresses the > > > > > refresh-interval dependent behavior of RFC 4090 in order to > > > > > support RI-RSVP, as facility backup FRR is a widely deployed > > > > > feature in production networ ks. > > > > > > MA> It seems to me the main issue with bypass protection is to deal > > > MA> with the > > > generation (PLR) and processing (MP) of a large number of *triggered* > > > Path messages for the individual protected LSPs at the time the PLR > > > activates the bypass LSP. > > > > > > I do not see anything new in this draft to address the bottleneck of > > > the state refresh mechanism itself. In fact, the draft suggests that > > > after the bypass LSP is activated, the state refresh continues with > > > summary refreshes which is the solution already existent as per RFC > > > 2961. Based on that, it is misleading to call this a > > > Refresh-Independent RSVP FRR and this draft is not changing the fact > > > that a PLR can generate and the MP may have to process a Srefresh > message > > with potentially a large number of message IDs once the bypass is > activated. > > > > [Chandra] The need to generate and process a large number of message > IDs will > > not be a problem as long as the refresh interval is long. If the concer= n is > that > > transmitting and processing a large number of message IDs would > overwhelm the > > routers, then that is an orthogonal problem for which Section 2.3 of > [draft-ietf-teas- > > rsvp-te-scaling-rec] proposes to solve. Again, [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te= - > scaling-rec] > > does indeed rely on RFC 2961 Message-Id-ACK extension to accomplish > flow > > control. Even if an implementation supports extensions to reduce the > messages > > between PLR and MP during local repair, we still require long refresh > interval in > > order to relieve the burden of the routers from having to refresh > unaffected LSP > > states and the make-before-break LSP states that occur subsequent to > local > > repair. > > > > Once the refresh interval could be set to an arbitrarily large value, i= t > makes RSVP- > > TE "refresh interval independent". Is the use of "refresh independent" > instead of a > > longer phrase "refresh-interval independent" a matter of concern here? > > > > > What this mechanism is providing is a bulk notification of bypass > > > activation from the PLR to the MP. This can speed up the creation in > > > the control plane of the new remote neighbor (PLR) at the MP and > > > associate the existing PSB/RSBs of the protected LSPs with this new > > > neighbor. The savings in the creation of the new remote neighbor is > > > due to not relying on the receipt from the PLR and the processing of = a > > > triggered refresh message for each protected LSP. Note here there are > > > no issue with the data plane and packets from all LSPs will be > > > forwarded properly at the MP since the ILM for the protected LSP is > > > the same whether the packet is received from the primary interface or > from the > > bypass LSP interface. > > > > [Chandra] Yes, precisely. The data plane can continue to forward traffi= c > but the > > control plane imposes an artificial restriction that the LSP states sho= uld > be > > refreshed within a short refresh timeout. The goal is to remove this > restriction and > > align with the goal of [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec]. > > > > > Based on the above, I am having trouble reconciling the limited > > > benefits and the complexity of the proposed mechanism. > > > I am not opposed for this part of the draft to move forward as an > > > optional mechanism but I propose that it gets merged with > > > draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary- frr-rsvpte and that the reference to > > > "Refresh-Independent RSVP FRR" be removed. Also, the objective of the > > > mechanism to more clearly explained as a bulk notification mechanism > when > > bypass is activated. > > > > [Chandra] The goals of draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte and draft= - > chandra- > > mpls-ri-rsvp-frr are different. While draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary-frr- > rsvpte could be > > used by RSVP-TE implementation using short refresh interval to reduce > message > > rate between PLR and MP during local repair, draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp= - > frr could > > be used by RSVP-TE implementation to set arbitrarily long refresh inter= val > but > > avoid unacceptable buildup of stale states across FRR local repairs. Th= at's > why > > the only two extensions introduced in draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr > involve sending > > PathTear messages to ensure explicit cleanup of LSP states rather than > relying on > > timeout (which would be long with long refresh interval). Implementatio= n > that sets > > arbitrarily long refresh interval could also use draft-mtaillon-mpls- > summary-frr- > > rsvpte to reduce message rate during local repair. > > > > > > > > However, the procedures presented in this document are fairly > > > > > > complex and go at odds with the original intent of making state > > > > > > synchronization based on a soft-state mechanism. > > > > > > > > > > [Chandra] The tradeoffs between using short or long refresh > > > > > intervals has been well understood. Short refresh intervals aid > > > > > fast synchronization of states along the path of the LSP, but is > > > > > problematic because of the control message traffic that a router > > > > > has to handle at high LSP scale. Routers not only must synchroniz= e > > > > > new states as promptly as possible, but also must maintain the > > > > > rate of periodic Srefresh messages to a level sufficient to > > > > > refresh all existing states without being timed out. When the > > > > > number of LSPs that > > > routers > > > > carry approach half a million, there will be two problems with the > > > > control > > > message > > > > rate. > > > > > (1) As analyzed in RFC 5439, even with RFC 2961 refresh reduction > > > > > the size of Srefresh message may become very large, and the > > > > > processing required may cause disruption of the LSR. > > > > > (2) Apart from the problem of RSVP message processing overhead, > > > > > there is also the problem of RSVP-TE becoming a bottleneck > > > > > preventing the router to scale other protocols or services. > > > > > > MA> This draft does not solve the issue of large Srefresh message. > > > MA> After the bulk > > > triggering of the bypass, Srefresh message will still be large becaus= e > > > implementations will need to make efficient use of the message by > > > sending as many Message IDs as possible. > > > > [Chandra] I think this is a problem that is orthogonal to remove the > reliance on > > short refresh interval. As mentioned before, one should also take into > account the > > recommendations in [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec] in order to > support LSP > > scales much higher than what routers run or support today. The point > you have > > raised here has been addressed in Section 2.3 of [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-= te- > scaling- > > rec]. > > > > > > > > In fact, what I fail to find is a compelling argument or data > > > > > > from the field which shows the issue is not resolved via much > > > > > > simpler methods which are used in production networks today. I > > > > > > describe this in the detailed comments below. > > > > > > > > > > [Chandra] Some of the mechanisms already deployed in multi- > vendor > > > > > production networks involve configuring implementation specific > > > > > timers or > > > > delays on LSRs. > > > > > Multiple vendors support various timers or delays on Ingress and > > > > > Transit > > > LSRs. > > > > > However, in practice the values configured for these timers or > > > > > delays are very scale specific, and the values that work at one > > > > > LSP scale usually do not work at higher LSP scale. In practice, > > > > > the "scale" that impacts the behavior at specific timer or delay > > > > > value is not only the number of LSPs carried on the router, but > > > > > also the number of other protocol states that reside on the > > > > > router. It should be noted that the reliance on such > > > > > implementation specific timers or delays has been a major > contributor of > > operational complexity in running RSVP-TE FRR. > > > > > Any solution based on such timers or delays while being > > > > > operationally simple at one scale ceases to be so at higher scale= . > > > > > It has been practically found (with existing implementations from > > > > > multiple > > > > > vendors) tha t it is operationally hard to find out the new > > > > > better value as a running production network grows over time. In > > > > > short, the use of > > > such > > > > timers or delays has been found to involve guess work that seldom > > > > remain > > > simple > > > > in the long run. > > > > > > > > > MA> The timer is for a different issue than the main objective of the > > > MA> draft. Let us > > > discuss it in the points below > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Mustapha. > > > > > > --------------------- > > > > > > 1. Section 3.1 - Problem Description " > > > > > > - If the protected LSP on C times out before D receives > > > > > > signaling for the backup LSP, then D would receive PathTear fro= m > > > > > > C prior to receiving signaling for the backup LSP, thus > > > > > > resulting in deleting the LSP state. This would be possible at > > > > > > scale even with default refresh time. > > > > > > " > > > > > > MA> Since each LSR in the path of a RSVP session which requeste= d > > > > > > MA> protection > > > > > > has to assume it can be a MP without prior knowledge, a simpler > > > > > > method is to reset the refresh timeout for each session as soon > > > > > > as the link to the previous hop failed. In fact, a user > > > > > > configurable MP timeout upon failure, independent of the refres= h > > > > > > timeout, can be provided to tune it to the desired value to giv= e > > > > > > enough time to the Path message to be received via the bypass > LSP. > > > > > > > > > > [Chandra] The option of resetting the refresh timeout may not be > > > > > viable if long refresh interval (of the order of tens of minutes) > > > > > is applied on the LSPs. That leaves the other option of providing > > > > > a "wait timer" (independent of refresh time) that is configurable= on > the MP. > > > However, it is > > > > fairly clear that the "wait timer" > > > > > that the operator should configure on MP will be problematic for > > > > > two > > > reasons. > > > > > The operator should carefully analyze the performance impact of a= n > > > > > existing timer/delay value if and when (a) the LSP scale on the > > > > > same router increases, and (2) the LSP scale increases on other > > > > > routers around it (that may potentially become upstream PLRs)! > > > > > > MA> The use of a refresh-timeout independent timer has been shown > to > > > MA> work in > > > production networks. Most of the time, the value is conservative > > > enough to cover a large scale network. > > > > [Chandra] Relying on implementation specific timers does not provide > > predictability of behavior as the deployed network scale increases. The= re > are > > cases in deployed networks where the use of such timers have increased > the > > complexity of network operations (a) when network scale increases with > the same > > software image, and (b) when network scale increase is also accompanied > by > > software upgrades. The general point is that increasing refresh interva= l to > arbitrarily > > long values without any accompanying mechanism to introducing > predictable > > behavior in the protocol may increase operational complexity. I have > provided > > detailed discussion on this in previous mails. > > > > > > > > 2. Section 3.1 - Problem Description: > > > > > > " > > > > > > - If upon the link failure C is to keep state until its timeout= , > > > > > > then with long refresh interval this may result in a large > > > > > > amount of stale state on C. Alternatively, if upon the link > > > > > > failure C is to delete the state and send PathTear to D, this > > > > > > would result in deleting the state on D, thus deleting the LSP. > > > > > > D needs a reliable mechanism to determine whether it is MP or > > > > > > not to overcome this problem. > > > > > > " > > > > > > MA> What is exactly the issue with state timeout being retained > > > > > > MA> until the > > > > > > refresh timeout? You refer to this as "stale" state but in fact > > > > > > it is desirable to keep the state until node D created the back= up > PSB. > > > > > > Also, remember that head-end node will perform global revertive > > > > > > MBB and may tear down the LSP before the state timeout. > > > > > > > > > > [Chandra] As described in the first response in this mail, the > > > > > motivation driving the draft is to eliminate RSVP-TE's reliance o= f > > > > > short refresh intervals. If router C were to retain the LSP state > > > > > until time out, without any additional procedures that provide an > > > > > explicit indication to router C on when the LSP state is no longe= r > > > > > required, then router C would retain the LSP state potentially fo= r > > > > > hours if the refresh interval is long. So, router C will not only > > > > > store the state of the LSP but also periodically send the Path > > > > > message (in Srefresh) downstream - thereby unnecessarily > consuming > > > > > resources that > > > > could potentially be utilized for other LSPs. > > > > > It should also be noted that the transit router cannot assume tha= t > > > > > Ingress LSR will be able to complete global repair within a > > > > > particular time frame. The transit LSR procedures should be able > > > > > to handle cases when global repair does not complete for some > > > > > valid reason for an extended > > > > period of time. > > > > > > MA> Clearly, you are not taking away the reliance on refresh messages= . > > > MA> Any ad- > > > hoc mechanism which is not reliable such as a PathTear may still keep > > > the state until it times out. Furthermore, relying exclusively on > > > Message ID ACk as proposed in draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec in = a > scaled > > network is not good. > > > Data from deployment networks I am familiar with has shown that the > > > retransmission of messages which are not acknowledged when the > control > > > plane churn is happening is causing much more churn. Our advice for > > > our customers was to disable the requirement to receive a Message ID > Ack. > > > > [Chandra] I disagree with both the points above. > > - The extensions introduced in the draft only involve leveraging PathTe= ar > > mechanism in two slightly modified ways. If PathTear messages are > reliably sent > > by RSVP routers (i.e. implement RFC 2961 for tear down messages also > and also > > implement flow control described in draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec= ), > then the > > operator could set arbitrarily long refresh intervals. If the concern i= s the > use of > > "refresh independent" instead of "refresh-interval independent", then I > can add > > clarification to the draft. > > - The cause of churn in RSVP-TE deployments running at high scale in > terms of > > LSPs is the lack of flow control in RSVP-TE implementations. It is poss= ible > to > > implement flow control if implementations can leverage Message-id-ACKs > suitably > > as recommended in [draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec]. > > > > > > > > 3. Section 3.1 - Problem Statement: > > > > > > " > > > > > > - If head-end A attempts to tear down LSP after step 1 but > > > > > > before step 2 of the above sequence, then B may receive the tea= r > > > > > > down message before step 2 and delete the LSP state from its > > > > > > state database. If B deletes its state without informing D, wit= h > > > > > > long refresh interval this could cause (large) buildup of stale > > > > > > state on D. > > > > > > " > > > > > > MA> I am not sure I understand the issue here. If B acting as a > > > > > > MA> PLR receives a > > > > > > PathTear from A, all it needs to do is to check that the primar= y > > > > > > path neighbor (C in this case) is in down or in cleanup state > > > > > > and send the PathTear over the bypass before deleting its own > > > > > > local state From nobody Sat Jul 16 13:43:03 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87ECF12D10B; Sat, 16 Jul 2016 13:43:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.808 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.808 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:55:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.187 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.187 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D8haMwn8edLh; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A435012D1A2; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.15.30] (unknown [213.23.104.157]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EC01918013E4; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 09:55:10 +0200 (CEST) To: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" References: <9e5bdf75-0bd8-8643-2c76-51e91844bf35@pi.nu> <4A1FDEDF-8881-4210-82DD-9EECB987828C@cisco.com> From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <1300632b-c30b-5d37-7798-313d9c6bb105@pi.nu> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 09:55:07 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A1FDEDF-8881-4210-82DD-9EECB987828C@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 07:55:15 -0000 Carlos, Yes - I'm aware of that the question on IPR for the delta is probably a bit "narrow", applying only to the delta info we added to the document. Nevertheless I'd like to see the editors respond to the IPR poll. I had a few words about the limited applicability of the poll in the IPR poll mail initially, but decided that I have to write something more elaborated when we go to wglc. In that context I need the responses for this first IPR poll. /Loa On 2016-07-16 22:42, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) wrote: > Loa, > > I am not aware of any IPR applicable specifically to the delta from draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis (meaning, applicable only to changes from RFC 4379 and the other 3 RFCs that it is attempting to obsolete or otherwise incorporates from other docs) > > The datatracker does not pull IPR declarations from those, that’s probably some text for the Doc shepherd doc and/or question for the AD. > > Thanks, > > — Carlos. > >> On Jul 16, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Loa Andersson wrote: >> >> Working Group, >> >> We are currently preparing draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis for working >> group last call. We will do an IPR poll prior to the wglc. >> >> This is to start the IPR Poll. >> >> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bi? >> >> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >> >> There is no IPR disclosure filed directly against this documents. >> >> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to >> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant >> IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The >> document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been >> received from each author and contributor. >> >> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or >> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any >> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >> >> /Loa >> mpls wg co-chair >> >> -- >> >> >> Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com >> Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu >> Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > From nobody Sun Jul 17 05:04:10 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4D012B069; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 05:04:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.28.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160717120409.16798.53475.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 05:04:09 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] The MPLS WG has placed draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr in state "Candidate for WG Adoption" X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:04:09 -0000 The MPLS WG has placed draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr in state Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Loa Andersson) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr/ From nobody Sun Jul 17 19:19:42 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1334512D155; 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charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 02:19:41 -0000 Hi, I am not aware of any IPR that is not disclosed. Thanks, Nagendra On 7/16/16, 4:42 PM, "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" wrote: >Loa, > >I am not aware of any IPR applicable specifically to the delta from >draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis (meaning, applicable only to changes from RFC >4379 and the other 3 RFCs that it is attempting to obsolete or otherwise >incorporates from other docs) > >The datatracker does not pull IPR declarations from those, that=B9s >probably some text for the Doc shepherd doc and/or question for the AD. > >Thanks, > >=8B Carlos. > >> On Jul 16, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Loa Andersson wrote: >>=20 >> Working Group, >>=20 >> We are currently preparing draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis for working >> group last call. We will do an IPR poll prior to the wglc. >>=20 >> This is to start the IPR Poll. >>=20 >> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bi? >>=20 >> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >>=20 >> There is no IPR disclosure filed directly against this documents. >>=20 >> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to >> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant >> IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The >> document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been >> received from each author and contributor. >>=20 >> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or >> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any >> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >>=20 >> /Loa >> mpls wg co-chair >>=20 >> --=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com >> Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu >> Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > From nobody Sun Jul 17 20:30:57 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4000E12D0D3; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 20:30:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.507 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.507 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qfHtiRH4lzKj; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 20:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) 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draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis , mpls-chairs , "Nagendra Kumar Nainar \(naikumar\)" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 08:21:07 -0000 --001a11426598095cb50537e4a684 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not aware of any IPR, other than the IPR's which were disclosed with original RFC's. cheers -sam On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Mach Chen wrote: > Hi, > > I am also not aware of any IPR that is not disclosed. > > Best regards, > Mach > *=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9A*Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar) > *=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9A*Carlos Pignataro (cpignata),Loa, An= dersson, > *=E6=8A=84=E9=80=81=EF=BC=9A*mpls@ietf.org,mpls-chairs@ietf.org, > draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis@ietf.org, > *=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4=EF=BC=9A*2016-07-18 10:19:46 > *=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98:*Re: IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis > > Hi, > > I am not aware of any IPR that is not disclosed. > > Thanks, > Nagendra > > On 7/16/16, 4:42 PM, "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" > wrote: > > >Loa, > > > >I am not aware of any IPR applicable specifically to the delta from > >draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis (meaning, applicable only to changes from RFC > >4379 and the other 3 RFCs that it is attempting to obsolete or otherwise > >incorporates from other docs) > > > >The datatracker does not pull IPR declarations from those, that=C2=B9s > >probably some text for the Doc shepherd doc and/or question for the AD. > > > >Thanks, > > > >=E2=80=B9 Carlos. > > > >> On Jul 16, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Loa Andersson wrote: > >> > >> Working Group, > >> > >> We are currently preparing draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis for working > >> group last call. We will do an IPR poll prior to the wglc. > >> > >> This is to start the IPR Poll. > >> > >> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bi? > >> > >> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > >> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > >> > >> There is no IPR disclosure filed directly against this documents. > >> > >> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond t= o > >> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > >> IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The > >> document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been > >> received from each author and contributor. > >> > >> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author o= r > >> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of a= ny > >> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > >> > >> /Loa > >> mpls wg co-chair > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > >> Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com > >> Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu > >> Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > > > --001a11426598095cb50537e4a684 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not aware of any IPR, other than the IPR's which were = disclosed with original RFC's.

cheers
-sam=

On Su= n, Jul 17, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Mach Chen <mach.chen@huawei.com> wrote:
Hi,

I am also not aware of any IPR that is not disclosed.

Best regards,
Mach
=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9A= Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar)
=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9A= Carlos Pignataro (cpignata),Loa, Andersson,
=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4=EF=BC=9A2016-= 07-18 10:19:46
=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98:Re: IPR poll = on draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis

Hi,

I am not aware of any IPR that is not disclosed.

Thanks,
Nagendra

On 7/16/16, 4:42 PM, "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" <cpignata@cisco.com> wrote:

>Loa,
>
>I am not aware of any IPR applicable specifically to the delta from
>draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis (meaning, applicable only to changes from RF= C
>4379 and the other 3 RFCs that it is attempting to obsolete or otherwis= e
>incorporates from other docs)
>
>The datatracker does not pull IPR declarations from those, that=C2=B9s<= br> >probably some text for the Doc shepherd doc and/or question for the AD.=
>
>Thanks,
>
>=E2=80=B9 Carlos.
>
>> On Jul 16, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
>>
>> Working Group,
>>
>> We are currently preparing draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis for working<= br> >> group last call. We will do an IPR poll prior to the wglc.
>>
>> This is to start the IPR Poll.
>>
>> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bi= ?
>>
>> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rul= es
>> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
>>
>> There is no IPR disclosure filed directly against this documents.<= br> >>
>> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respo= nd to
>> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relev= ant
>> IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* = The
>> document will not advance to the next stage until a response has b= een
>> received from each author and contributor.
>>
>> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an auth= or or
>> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware = of any
>> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules= .
>>
>> /Loa
>> mpls wg co-chair
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Loa Andersson=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 email: loa@mail01.huawei.com
>> Senior MPLS Expert=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = loa@pi.nu
>> Huawei Technologies (consultant)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 phone: +4= 6 739 81 21 64
>

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([2001:67c:370:176:2cf9:e7ef:c8d7:3d6d]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m11sm1040138qke.36.2016.07.18.02.35.00 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Jul 2016 02:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Kireeti Kompella X-Mailer: iPad Mail (13F69) In-Reply-To: <9e5bdf75-0bd8-8643-2c76-51e91844bf35@pi.nu> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 11:34:56 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <079E7912-AC1A-4814-8C12-A17C569BDA45@gmail.com> References: <9e5bdf75-0bd8-8643-2c76-51e91844bf35@pi.nu> To: Loa Andersson Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 09:37:41 -0000 I'm not aware of any IPR for the 4379bis that hasn't already been disclosed.= Your statement below "There is no IPR disclosure filed directly against this= documents" is not perfectly accurate. Juniper Networks has disclosed IPR on= rfc 4379: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1078/ Kireeti. > On Jul 16, 2016, at 18:29, Loa Andersson wrote: >=20 > Working Group, >=20 > We are currently preparing draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis for working > group last call. We will do an IPR poll prior to the wglc. >=20 > This is to start the IPR Poll. >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bi? >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >=20 > There is no IPR disclosure filed directly against this documents. >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The > document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been > received from each author and contributor. >=20 > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >=20 > /Loa > mpls wg co-chair >=20 > --=20 >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com > Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu > Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Mon Jul 18 02:48:32 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C4712D7A0; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 02:48:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.187 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.187 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h9di5HByMg0R; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 02:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89FF812D6A6; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 02:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [31.133.177.67] (dhcp-b143.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.177.67]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 20E9918015A1; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 11:44:22 +0200 (CEST) To: Kireeti Kompella References: <9e5bdf75-0bd8-8643-2c76-51e91844bf35@pi.nu> <079E7912-AC1A-4814-8C12-A17C569BDA45@gmail.com> From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <73fc5755-0f49-9250-f9cc-f431ec31ecd9@pi.nu> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 11:44:18 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <079E7912-AC1A-4814-8C12-A17C569BDA45@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 09:48:30 -0000 Kireeti, "directly against this document" meant against draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis", the complication with disclosures against 4379 and documents that have been fully or partly incorporated into rfc4379bis will be addressed in the mail starting the wglc. /Loa On 2016-07-18 11:34, Kireeti Kompella wrote: > I'm not aware of any IPR for the 4379bis that hasn't already been disclosed. > > Your statement below "There is no IPR disclosure filed directly against this documents" is not perfectly accurate. Juniper Networks has disclosed IPR on rfc 4379: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1078/ > > Kireeti. > >> On Jul 16, 2016, at 18:29, Loa Andersson wrote: >> >> Working Group, >> >> We are currently preparing draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis for working >> group last call. We will do an IPR poll prior to the wglc. >> >> This is to start the IPR Poll. >> >> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bi? >> >> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >> >> There is no IPR disclosure filed directly against this documents. >> >> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to >> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant >> IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The >> document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been >> received from each author and contributor. >> >> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or >> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any >> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >> >> /Loa >> mpls wg co-chair >> >> -- >> >> >> Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com >> Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu >> Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Mon Jul 18 03:22:54 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273E812D80C for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 03:22:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.688 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.688 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_KAM_HTML_FONT_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JniQo7Uvj2v6 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 03:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qt0-x229.google.com (mail-qt0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6809D12D794 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 03:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qt0-x229.google.com with SMTP id x25so9106286qtx.2 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 03:22:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=EBHpume5v/GFdu4L2RgXbwPttCM9gZ61YGh39ZKNgI8=; b=tESip0ZbKkPq/E2mItMW7RQbb8neCt/PL5QoUS4BMhNqCgIFN0abwIsns/c4aV/Ywj 3mq/Uygld0pY9+sm+8kfKJYphrhllztF82P9YTjuOq9usQGTnXRCIE5+yRUGbp76Tz5q GgoswRWe5/NBx9fiSLCE5Tba0Hi+u4v3A1bgzIRJ7Ui/CeXz71sdKbeQt86T4V2I5X11 rtk5NtpxMD6dqCA8DCgn6E/SfbeatyaK6vr+eOOttNZPzS+gSH5EDsavbGwZ+U3yohz4 b9J4bNKDbJjiZtqE3qOTHtkc26XOUmH1P/ZPIpNwA/WiFGdoWrTV0YmFDX5b9t51n+mu B04w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=EBHpume5v/GFdu4L2RgXbwPttCM9gZ61YGh39ZKNgI8=; b=CM0YRVKKHc3gfHTbOq1HzeicCDbSYh8QLazlKMGal0CLMOWp1/i0uu1h62dMbOQaPW QFV7/+0Kw2OZag88k+Ids31rwek2q+slAzlu2NsjgP9/JntIp3hykeuji0a9GWiW0Tz4 lX3aFKN2h4xeNOSUykyfCMDPHKhor8JuPWIvHKLmUiFs+473JmevrsGkE0tjklWMKk03 BWUvFo384vTDbibwPEJQsllDfxdo8G36AjAYAEWjCLaiVHoVa+K/qsBfeoftr0WZtBk5 LTeY+DQ/O9U7rsMwvvsBurz3kVsYlWrKnIxVyGcvfdSZydKidbb+92kDNNmNQ5lbtnce pH3g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tK0NU2oiZIr47disJOJSfKjwReLSm6yAzK388pb+C1DebX2EDWR8cRegd5MxU2Uow== X-Received: by 10.237.37.58 with SMTP id v55mr51406847qtc.9.1468837367485; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 03:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:67c:370:176:8c65:5191:62fd:8de8? ([2001:67c:370:176:8c65:5191:62fd:8de8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v4sm2983126qkh.28.2016.07.18.03.22.45 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Jul 2016 03:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9EAB0C90-A89F-4163-BA0A-0AF23DCF0A49 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Kireeti Kompella X-Mailer: iPad Mail (13F69) In-Reply-To: <94E7360D59AAB64F852152C5579B5F2280347CC9@HERMES-MBX2.corp.cablevision.com.ar> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 12:22:43 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <94E7360D59AAB64F852152C5579B5F2280347CC9@HERMES-MBX2.corp.cablevision.com.ar> To: "Ger, Javier" Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] draft-kompella-mpls-rmr-01 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:22:52 -0000 --Apple-Mail-9EAB0C90-A89F-4163-BA0A-0AF23DCF0A49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Javier, Thanks for your very detailed comments! See inline for more. BTW, there is a= n updated version of the draft: draft-ietf-mpls-rmr-02.=20 Kireeti. > On Jul 8, 2016, at 05:33, Ger, Javier wrote: >=20 > Hello Authors, > =20 > I am sending you some comments and suggestions related to this draft. Apol= ogies in advance if some of them are not clear enough, in that case please j= ust let me know. > =20 > 1. Page 4 - Ring direction. It has only 2 bits. Would they be enough?= or Would it be needed some additional experimental bits for future use? Giv= en that Flags for Ring Link TLV have MBZ making the Ring Direction field int= o three bits might be an option? You're right -- all possible values of these bits have been used. Two choice= s: A) add a bit for ring direction. However, then it cannot be used for somethi= ng else.=20 B) add a bit later from MBZ when needed. A little complicated as the bits wi= ll not be contiguous, but manageable. So, here's a suggestion: if we find a use for more bits before this becomes a= n RFC, we'll increase the bits. Otherwise, we'll probably leave it as is.=20= > 2. Page 6 =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9CA ring node indicates in its IGP updates t= he ring LSP signaling protocols it supports. This can be LDP and/or RSVP-TE.= Ideally, each node should support both.=E2=80=9D > Should not SR be also included in the scope (since it is another option fo= r the MPLS control plane)? Or at least some mention about its future inclusi= on (similar to what is stated for express link in the same Page 6)? > My opinion is based on that in the medium-term protection options should c= onverge or at least be them available to any control plane, in this way it w= ill be a design decision how to implement the features. But maybe I am misun= derstanding something, sorry if that is the case. Perhaps.=20 > 3. Page 7 =E2=80=93 I get confused with the RSVP-TE =E2=80=9Creverse ca= ll admission control=E2=80=9D concept. > Does it mean that BW is not reserved in both directions? If so, what happe= n with backup or =E2=80=9Cother direction=E2=80=9D path when traffic has to b= e sent through it (because current has some failure)? Can the CAC reject the= request? How it works considering the LSP are multipoint, i.e. the BW is ag= gregate of all ring nodes that will use this LSP? Sorry, I should be clearer. In CAC, typically you set the bw of the LSP, say= 6G, then keep subtracting as new services use this LSP. So, a 1G pw will re= duce the available bw on the LSP to 5G. When the LSP's bw is used up, it wou= ld need to be re-signaled.=20 In reverse CAC, the LSP starts with 0 bw. Every time a service uses the LSP,= it has to be re-signaled with the required bw. This may seem inefficient in= the control plane, but more efficient use of bw.=20 > 4. Page 8 =E2=80=93 I did not understand in depth the proposals for pro= tections and loop avoidance. How can I get further clarification? > =20 > 5. Page 11 =E2=80=93 Similar to comment #2 for SS and SU field related t= o SR. Should it be signaled in the IGP? > Additionally, SS and SU have only 2 bits. Are they enough or some extra ex= perimental bit might be needed for future use? Could they change into value-= based field. > =20 > 6. Page 11 =E2=80=93 Ring Announcement Phase. > It might be needed to clarify that the MV value is not mandatory (Or is it= ?), and if not provisioned the lower loopback address will be taken into con= sideration to elect the Ring Master. Okay, will do.=20 > I think that we can specify the default Mastership Value to decrease provi= sioning. Otherwise, MV must be explicitly provisioned. Would you agree? Agreed. Default is 0.=20 > Additionally, you might replace the following text =E2=80=9CA node is also= provisioned with a mastership value=E2=80=9D in item 4.2 with the something= like =E2=80=9CA node may is also be provisioned with a mastership value to= modify the default one=E2=80=9D. Do you think is a good suggestion? Okay.=20 > 7. Page 11/12 =E2=80=93 I did not understand in depth the timers (T1, T= 2) and how each node and all of them are going through different phases to e= lect the Ring Master. General concept is OK, but I think a better explanatio= n about the sequence, including details, would be great. I am attaching an s= tate machine proposal just in case you think it can be useful for further cl= arification. Thanks, I'll take a look.=20 > 8. Page 13 =E2=80=93 Ring OAM. > The default hello interval for OAM protocol is defined in 3.3ms. Although m= ay be that is dating back fron SONET/SDH, the reasons for this value are not= specified. I believe this is the default for CFM and EFM.=20 > Furthermore, the amount of lost packets to determine a fault is not define= d. > On the other hand, hello interval for the LSP is defined is one second. Ag= ain, the reasons for this value might be missing, since it does not allow su= b-second reconvergence nor it is defined the number of lost packets to deter= mine a failure. > Do not you think that should be better to specified clearly that by defaul= t 3 packets lost means fault? And that this values can be modified. Same for= LSP hello packets. I'll specify the number of packets for both as 3. I want to keep auto-discov= ery simple; for other values, use configuration.=20 > 9. Do you think some clarification might be needed related to overlapping= with TI-LFA? No. :) That logic means every protection draft must discuss every other pro= tection scheme.=20 > 10. Minor comment. Page 2 =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9Cit is imperative that MPLS h= andles rings well; this is not the case today.=E2=80=9D > I think this sentence is very unspecific and might lead to some confusion.= Today MPLS is working in different topologies, including rings, with no iss= ues. This proposal is improving things like redundancy on MPLS layer itself,= convergence time, control plane scalability, etc. but it does not mean that= MPLS is working =E2=80=9Cbad=E2=80=9D. > I think it is much more precise in Page 5 paragraph =E2=80=9CThe goals of t= his document =E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D > Perhaps the statement may be changed to something like =E2=80=9Cthe ring t= opologies, because of their properties, can be automatically protected. MPLS= doesn=E2=80=99t enable that today.=E2=80=9D Okay, will tweak wording.=20 > 11. Very minor comment. > Page 10 - Ring ID 2 -> Ring ID 3 - 3rd Ring ID field on IS-IS Ring TLV Fo= rmat > Additionally, could it be possible to use enumeration on figures for ease o= f referencing. Much has changed here, but numbering figures is a good suggestion. > I would like to thank Greg Mirsky for his time and guidance. > =20 > Thanks and regards. > =20 > Javier Ger > Arquitectura y Tecnolog=C3=ADa > Gerencia T=C3=A9cnica | Ingenier=C3=ADa > Tel: (+54 11)5530-4531 > Cel: (+54 9 11)3926-5017 > Hornos 690. CABA, CP C1272ACL > Argentina > =20 > Visite https://www.cablevisionfibertel.com.ar > __________________________________________ > Este mensaje es confidencial. Puede contener informacion amparada por el s= ecreto comercial. > Si usted ha recibido este e-mail por error, debera eliminarlo de su sistem= a. > No debera copiar el mensaje ni divulgar su contenido a ninguna persona. > Muchas gracias. > This message is confidential. 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Hi Javier,

Thanks for your very detai= led comments! See inline for more. BTW, there is an updated version of the d= raft: draft-ietf-mpls-rmr-02. 

Kireeti.

On Jul 8, 2= 016, at 05:33, Ger, Javier <jg= er@cablevision.com.ar> wrote:

=

Hello Authors,<= /p>

 

I am sending you some comments an= d suggestions related to this draft. Apologies in advance if some of them ar= e not clear enough, in that case please just let me know.

 

1.   =    Page 4 - Ring directi= on. It has only 2 bits. Would they be enough? or Would it be needed some add= itional experimental bits for future use? Given that Flags for Ring Link TLV have MBZ making the Ring Direction field into t= hree bits might be an option?


You're right -- all possible values of these bits have been used. Two ch= oices:
A) add a bit for ring direction. However, then it cannot be used for something e= lse. 
B) add a bit later from MBZ when needed. A littl= e complicated as the bits will not be contiguous, but manageable.
=
So, here's a suggestion: if we find a use for more bits befor= e this becomes an RFC, we'll increase the bits. Otherwise, we'll probably le= ave it as is. 

2.  &nbs= p; Page 6 =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9CA ring node indicates i= n its IGP updates the ring LSP signaling protocols it supports. This can be L= DP and/or RSVP-TE. Ideally, each node should support both.=E2=80=9D

Should not SR be also incl= uded in the scope (since it is another option for the MPLS control plane)? O= r at least some mention about its future inclusion (similar to what is stated for express link in the same Page 6)?=

My o= pinion is based on that in the medium-term protection options should converg= e or at least be them available to any control plane, in this way it will be a design decision how to implement the featur= es. But maybe I am misunderstanding something, sorry if that is the case.


Perhaps. 

3.  &nbs= p; Page 7 =E2=80=93 I get confused with the RSVP-TE =E2= =80=9Creverse call admission control=E2=80=9D concept.

=

Does it mean that BW is no= t reserved in both directions? If so, what happen with backup or =E2=80=9Cot= her direction=E2=80=9D path when traffic has to be sent through it (because current has some failure)? Can the CAC reject the request? How i= t works considering the LSP are multipoint, i.e. the BW is aggregate of all r= ing nodes that will use this LSP?


Sorry, I should be clearer. In CAC, typically you set the bw of the LSP, s= ay 6G, then keep subtracting as new services use this LSP. So, a 1G pw will r= educe the available bw on the LSP to 5G. When the LSP's bw is used up, it wo= uld need to be re-signaled. 

In reverse CAC, t= he LSP starts with 0 bw. Every time a service uses the LSP, it has to be re-= signaled with the required bw. This may seem inefficient in the control plan= e, but more efficient use of bw. 

4.  &nbs= p; Page 8 =E2=80=93 I did not understand in depth th= e proposals for protections and loop avoidance. How can I get further clarif= ication?

 

5.  &nbs= p; Page 11 =E2=80=93 Similar to comment #2 for SS an= d SU field related to SR. Should it be signaled in the IGP?

Additionally, SS and SU ha= ve only 2 bits. Are they enough or some extra experimental bit might be need= ed for future use? Could they change into value-based field.

 

6.  &nbs= p; Page 11 =E2=80=93 Ring Announcement Phase.

It might be needed to clar= ify that the MV value is not mandatory (Or is it?), and if not provisioned t= he lower loopback address will be taken into consideration to elect the Ring Master.

<= br>
Okay, will do. 

I think that we can specif= y the default Mastership Value to decrease provisioning. Otherwise, MV must b= e explicitly provisioned. Would you agree?


Agreed. Default is 0. 

Addi= tionally, you might replace the following text =E2=80=9CA node is also provi= sioned with a mastership value=E2=80=9D in item 4.2 with the something like  =E2=80=9CA node may is also be provisioned with a masters= hip value to modify the default one=E2=80=9D. Do you think is a good suggest= ion?


Okay. 

7.  &nbs= p; Page 11/12 =E2=80=93 I did not understand in dept= h the timers (T1, T2) and how each node and all of them are going through di= fferent phases to elect the Ring Master. General concept is OK, but I think a better explanation about the sequence, including detai= ls, would be great. I am attaching an state machine proposal just in case yo= u think it can be useful for further clarification.


Thanks, I'll take a look. 

8.  &nbs= p; Page 13 =E2=80=93 Ring OAM.

=

The default hello interval= for OAM protocol is defined in 3.3ms. Although may be that is dating back f= ron SONET/SDH, the reasons for this value are not specified.


I believe this i= s the default for CFM and EFM. 

Furthermore, the amount of lost packets to determine a fault is not defin= ed.

On the other hand, hello i= nterval for the LSP is defined is one second. Again, the reasons for this va= lue might be missing, since it does not allow sub-second reconvergence nor it is defined the number of lost packets to de= termine a failure.

Do not you think that should be better to specified clearly that by defa= ult 3 packets lost means fault? And that this values can be modified. Same for LSP hello packets.

<= div>
I'll specify the number of packets for both as 3. I want to ke= ep auto-discovery simple; for other values, use configuration. 

9.  Do you think some clarification might be needed r= elated to overlapping with TI-LFA?


No. :)  That logic means every protection draft must discuss every o= ther protection scheme. 

10.  Minor comment. Page 2 =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9Cit is im= perative that MPLS handles rings well; this is not the case today.=E2=80=9D<= o:p>

I think this sentence is v= ery unspecific and might lead to some confusion. Today MPLS is working in di= fferent topologies, including rings, with no issues. This proposal is improving things like redundancy on MPLS layer its= elf, convergence time, control plane scalability, etc. but it does not mean t= hat MPLS is working =E2=80=9Cbad=E2=80=9D.

I think it is much more pr= ecise in Page 5 paragraph =E2=80=9CThe goals of this document =E2=80=A6=E2=80= =9D

Perhaps the statement may b= e changed to something like =E2=80=9Cthe ring topologies, because of their p= roperties, can be automatically protected. MPLS doesn=E2=80=99t enable that today.=E2=80=9D


Oka= y, will tweak wording. 

11.  Very minor comment.

Page 10 - Ring ID 2 -> R= ing ID 3  - 3rd Ring ID field on IS-IS Ring TLV Format

Additionally, could it be p= ossible to use enumeration on figures for ease of referencing.


Much has changed here, but numbering figures i= s a good suggestion.

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The working group adoption poll ends August 2, 2016. /Loa mpls wg co-chair -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Tue Jul 19 05:10:36 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7129312D5B2; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 05:10:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.28.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160719121034.20761.15928.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 05:10:34 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] The MPLS WG has placed draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yang in state "Candidate for WG Adoption" X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 12:10:34 -0000 The MPLS WG has placed draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yang in state Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Loa Andersson) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yang/ From nobody Tue Jul 19 05:16:31 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F27B12D0B1; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 05:16:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.187 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.187 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vJI5yZ9kCjVW; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 05:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8031212D5D7; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 05:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [31.133.177.67] (dhcp-b143.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.177.67]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1A2571802AD0; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:16:22 +0200 (CEST) To: "mpls@ietf.org" From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <490ffa0b-dd23-ac38-823a-2935971006d8@pi.nu> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:16:17 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yang@ietf.org, "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] Shepherd for draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yang X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 12:16:30 -0000 Working Group, In a series of small steps we will allocate Document Shepherds for the documents that Ross has been shepherding. 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Please join us in welcoming Tarek to this new role. /Loa for the MPLS wg co-chairs -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Tue Jul 19 08:19:07 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B4912D868; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 08:18:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.187 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.187 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ipulp2iRnioG; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 08:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E142D12D874; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 07:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [31.133.177.67] (dhcp-b143.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.177.67]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A53D71802AD0; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:57:36 +0200 (CEST) To: "mpls@ietf.org" From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:57:32 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection@ietf.org, "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:18:59 -0000 Working Group, Eric Gray has been appointed Document Shepherd for draft-ietf-mpls- tp-shared-ring-protection. Please join us welcoming Eric in this new role. /Loa mpls wg co-chairs -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Tue Jul 19 08:35:29 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5852512D97F for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 08:35:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.62 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.62 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gW_ZXfLooMLt for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 08:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (asmtp4.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CCB512DE3E for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 08:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u6JFInX4020285 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:18:49 +0100 Received: from 950129200 (jplon-nat14.juniper.net [193.110.55.14]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u6JFIg7J020270 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:18:48 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:18:40 +0100 Message-ID: <009501d1e1d0$db05e9a0$9111bce0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdHh0MlKSgUiWK02Q262Vzh0tz6D+Q== Content-Language: en-gb X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1679-8.0.0.1202-22462.000 X-TM-AS-Result: No--6.417-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--6.417-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: u0JMc/t7MjZR6DT7jy4uvdOdGz1/8ORmz/QY4pbyQ2nSYAzZ6KmqWve9 fJVMajmONJnt9TW/xwb1ULoBG8LHrl2kuSHmn3uDw69AIwXJn0Y0AKed0u9fB/gnJH5vm2+gcvL IQwkShE4diTaKYs6ZUYODlzj9GzbRFDysHLls3CQIVoCLGbl5T/TWKs29qDlrACF5TKaad18wNg yB5vK4X/OXMYDgodY8cIzsvT6ldPT/3pF4wGrfyN35+5/2RxqmIOd58Mrid/6bKItl61J/ycnjL TA/UDoAxpQ77C1A1tqOhzOa6g8KrcqezgNQopn1cylln4E0yDQN7vtiUdrXnLSbo2LyZ5hO7X5c yPReqbY= Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Confusion over my comments in MPLS WG meeting X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:35:29 -0000 Hi, During our discussion of draft-shen-mpls-egress-protection-framework-02 I made some comments at the mic. The Etherpad records me as saying Adrian - Lets not hang up on word framework. ...and that was pretty much my message. It felt to me that we were obsessing about the precise interpretation of the document title rather than what it actually achieves. It is clear (to me) that the document could equally have a title like "framework for the use of MPLS to achieve foo" or a "framework to achieve foo in an MPLS network" and that that would be obviously an MPLS document. On the other hand (and historically) a framework is not an architecture: architectures are usually solution-independent; frameworks are often descriptions of how to achieve something from a number of building blocks. But if the word "framework" gets in the way, simply use a different word. In the meeting I then rambled into my beard wondering what would be the point of an MPLS working group if we are not able to work on this document that I feel is clearly an MPLS document (IRRC Hannes and Kireeti also considered this to be an MPLS document). Someone may have misheard me as saying "close down MPLS". Although Ross' departure might make this a fitting option, it was not what I was saying. I think George's point was that if someone thinks that there is value in a generic (not limited to MPLS) framework, then they are welcome to write one, and RTGWG would be a good venue. Adrian From nobody Tue Jul 19 09:17:37 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9608E12D7C9; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 09:17:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.187 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.187 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xRhRd-JCpzK6; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 09:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15F4A12D8DA; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 09:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [31.133.177.67] (dhcp-b143.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.177.67]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CFA2618013E4; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 18:14:15 +0200 (CEST) To: "mpls@ietf.org" From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <44d9f902-dc6b-7252-e748-898c87f70800@pi.nu> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 18:14:11 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: draft-ijln-mpls-rfc5036bis@ietf.org, "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] New Document Shepherd for draft-ijln-mpls-rfc5036bis X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:17:36 -0000 Working Group, Andy Malis has been appointed as the Document Shepherd for draft-ijln-mpls-rfc5036bis. Please join us in welcoming ANdy in this new role. /Loa -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Tue Jul 19 14:18:36 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FADA12D921 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:18:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Khztm0tfx5DV for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wm0-x229.google.com (mail-wm0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B254F12D500 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm0-x229.google.com with SMTP id q128so32905037wma.1 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:18:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=KuF6k6vAO17wbFuSBGhOo6r/pw6b9jld1r2v3G4InkI=; b=edWkX6S8GsETXrZizLPC3F4yzZ7eAO2PfZZYGxFKLb8QxQxMEExIHPRw0zCXE77Wr4 fLPMCcOPr2UBZMcvOgwLqC69arWEw6Pj/3kfWr9YvEI1TJIY0SRmJ3Bx8vn+2VR0apY2 gwFlKT4H/+nNJabWzAbs1ZEhNocqAWDL04CwdcmX5x65YY2Ss3syG6cL6+gA6F11y4RU UqXZGQDkg685GsU6kUJ4CXRlt7km35gE8eHYnbVgvliYGIeVmLhGWJF4A4w4+gU5Mc8j 9kKHCmbr6Mznjw3zt3AyA1BEoant/3s+4kiTe88eUm9A2N+5SeJOitnnF24Sf2qAz17c rsnQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=KuF6k6vAO17wbFuSBGhOo6r/pw6b9jld1r2v3G4InkI=; b=DPg+988plNuzLgwlm14VVA4qD5aafGagJ9rfuoV8cKuSajyfiFyf14VoEg6GvGdFNs +YypCzdsAeefd//UiXg3TF3raZ2rJL8kYW0WHSFwPPllFqPvFZ2DNrkEUxqrwchT98gt XhpXpZgHGnL9H4z/ryI1NiNjzDQdbDU5pswxkMVGXd4T3b3lz00jRyPw8XTtXRpYcYOn JAD/R4662O/D+PY/m/ytDffJLIH3lj5yErgk8zkmz10wmEAAxWC5ulHjhl1iQtaFE64M CTqTNBrlvy94yW/88WzVMF4uqL3TlGKgrHRL0tgkYiCmFETyP51XX8sYSJRc0v12q28r 6LVw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tK/GbG6gGjfyzaBTp+/3HVdO4142XNORZKZrwm1xSqGsmarg77hOV655B20ZWxNQg== X-Received: by 10.28.134.203 with SMTP id i194mr7000966wmd.22.1468963110212; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.24.254.240] ([46.189.28.56]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b203sm10034351wmh.20.2016.07.19.14.18.29 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Jul 2016 14:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: George Swallow X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13F69) In-Reply-To: <009501d1e1d0$db05e9a0$9111bce0$@olddog.co.uk> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 23:18:28 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <009501d1e1d0$db05e9a0$9111bce0$@olddog.co.uk> To: adrian@olddog.co.uk Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] Confusion over my comments in MPLS WG meeting X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 21:18:34 -0000 Adrian restatement of what I said. It is not the job of these authors to exp= and their scope because someone else wants a more general solution. If that s= omeone really wants it the can put in the work in the appropriate venue whic= h IMHO is RTGWG.=20 George > On Jul 19, 2016, at 5:18 PM, Adrian Farrel wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > During our discussion of draft-shen-mpls-egress-protection-framework-02 I m= ade > some comments at the mic. >=20 > The Etherpad records me as saying=20 > Adrian - Lets not hang up on word framework. >=20 > ...and that was pretty much my message. >=20 > It felt to me that we were obsessing about the precise interpretation of t= he > document title rather than what it actually achieves. It is clear (to me) t= hat > the document could equally have a title like "framework for the use of MPL= S to > achieve foo" or a "framework to achieve foo in an MPLS network" and that t= hat > would be obviously an MPLS document. On the other hand (and historically) a= > framework is not an architecture: architectures are usually > solution-independent; frameworks are often descriptions of how to achieve > something from a number of building blocks. But if the word "framework" ge= ts in > the way, simply use a different word. >=20 > In the meeting I then rambled into my beard wondering what would be the po= int of > an MPLS working group if we are not able to work on this document that I f= eel is > clearly an MPLS document (IRRC Hannes and Kireeti also considered this to b= e an > MPLS document). Someone may have misheard me as saying "close down MPLS". > Although Ross' departure might make this a fitting option, it was not what= I was > saying. >=20 > I think George's point was that if someone thinks that there is value in a= > generic (not limited to MPLS) framework, then they are welcome to write on= e, and > RTGWG would be a good venue. >=20 > Adrian >=20 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Wed Jul 20 02:36:22 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404F112D17B; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 02:36:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.808 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.808 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:03:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.29.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160720180309.26454.45151.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:03:09 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-11.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 18:03:10 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Residence Time Measurement in MPLS network Authors : Greg Mirsky Stefano Ruffini Eric Gray John Drake Stewart Bryant Alexander Vainshtein Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-11.txt Pages : 26 Date : 2016-07-20 Abstract: This document specifies G-ACh based Residence Time Measurement and how it can be used by time synchronization protocols being transported over MPLS domain. Residence time is the variable part of propagation delay of timing and synchronization messages and knowing what this delay is for each message allows for a more accurate determination of the delay to be taken into account in applying the value included in a PTP event message. 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If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd >like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > >The poll ends July 31, 2016. > >Regards, >Tarek and MPLS WG chairs From nobody Thu Jul 21 04:41:32 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB8112DEC5; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 04:41:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.187 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.187 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s_7LXdtnk8Ad; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 04:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EDA212D0E2; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 04:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [31.133.177.67] (dhcp-b143.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.177.67]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8872E18015A1; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 13:37:34 +0200 (CEST) To: "mpls@ietf.org" From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <7f3e97e4-cbce-1471-e881-2ca344a3fda9@pi.nu> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 13:37:28 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] David Sinicrope appointed document shepherd for draft-ietf-mpls-tp-temporal-hitless-psm X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:41:31 -0000 Working Group, David Sinicrope has been appointed as the Document Shepherd for draft-ietf-mpls-tp-temporal-hitless-psm. Please join us in welcoming David in this new role. /Loa -- -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Thu Jul 21 05:39:26 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FE412DA63; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 05:39:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.808 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.808 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DMKZ8kAHJ5ZW; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 05:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com [173.37.86.77]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04B2F12DA18; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 05:39:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2752; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1469104748; x=1470314348; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=4zhsmLmN1NqbnKq4kAKDaSR+DOC0Pn1Omp4LoxhbXzA=; b=AbxD/jstpHX7Wjrnq/oc1JVt9Q8Xi2QJhCbG5U4EyeK32s/7Gt4FYZAr ROKzr4DdAcdptNXT1qoCqxLTXg51pFj81b9QRAh/mLvJEU5ckzQpgXGdC jOdKkXJE69n4hKYs9jX/z57XGwpGKotrW1AAmQvtl4qEYssmKgTn3QJcG A=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0AmAgD4wZBX/5pdJa1dgz9WfAa4XoF7I?= =?us-ascii?q?oV4AoEtOBQBAQEBAQEBZSeEXAEBBXcCDAQCAQgRBAEBKAcyFAkIAgQBDQWIMA6?= =?us-ascii?q?9AwEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBARyGKoRNihsBBI4MOYphAYYViFWBbE6EC?= =?us-ascii?q?4h1kCABHjaDc24Bhk5/AQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.28,399,1464652800"; d="scan'208";a="128368079" Received: from rcdn-core-3.cisco.com ([173.37.93.154]) by rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 21 Jul 2016 12:39:07 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-016.cisco.com (xch-aln-016.cisco.com [173.36.7.26]) by rcdn-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u6LCd767012483 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 21 Jul 2016 12:39:07 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-005.cisco.com (173.37.102.15) by XCH-ALN-016.cisco.com (173.36.7.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1210.3; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:39:06 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-005.cisco.com ([173.37.102.15]) by XCH-RCD-005.cisco.com ([173.37.102.15]) with mapi id 15.00.1210.000; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:39:06 -0500 From: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" To: "Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi)" , "bess@ietf.org" , "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: New Version Notification for draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-00.txt Thread-Index: AQHR14OkSoSUTH6fiECcys2OUSg506AfGXbQgARGo4A= Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 12:39:06 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20160706124054.7765.88133.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.6.5.160527 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.86.240.53] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "Ali Sajassi \(sajassi\)" , "draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] New Version Notification for draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-00.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 12:39:11 -0000 Hi, Some questions on the draft: - Section 4 mentions that LSP-Ping is needed to exchange discriminators because the MPLS label stack doesn=B9t contain enough information to disambiguate the sender of the session. Isn=B9t the IP hdr enough? - Section 7.1.1 mentions SH label, I believe this is the ESI label as per section 8.3 of RFC7432? - There are alternative encapsulation formats with sub-TLVs for unicast and multicast. Is it an alternative to the label stack or on top of the label stack? Even if obvious, I think the advantage of those alternative formats should be stated. Regards, Reshad. On 2016-07-19, 4:24 AM, "Rtg-bfd on behalf of Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi)" wrote: >Hello all, > draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-00.txt was presented by Greg Mirsky at IETF 96 >MPLS WG and is scheduled for presentation at BESS and BFD WG meetings. >Authors request comments/ suggestions on this draft. >Thanks >Prasad > >-----Original Message----- >From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] >Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 6:11 PM >To: MALLIK MUDIGONDA (mmudigon) ; MALLIK MUDIGONDA >(mmudigon) ; Greg Mirsky >; Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi) >; Gregory Mirsky ; Ali >Sajassi (sajassi) >Subject: New Version Notification for draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-00.txt > > >A new version of I-D, draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-00.txt has been >successfully submitted by Vengada Prasad Govindan and posted to the IETF >repository. > >Name: draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd >Revision: 00 >Title: Fault Management for EVPN networks >Document date: 2016-07-06 >Group: Individual Submission >Pages: 10 >URL: =20 >https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-00.txt >Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd/ >Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-00 > > >Abstract: > This document proposes a proactive, in-band network OAM mechanism to > detect loss of continuity and miss-connection faults that affect > unicast and multi-destination paths, used by Broadcast, unknown > Unicast and Multicast traffic, in an EVPN network. The mechanisms > proposed in the draft use the principles of the widely adopted > Bidirectional Forwarding Detection protocol. > > =20 > =20 > > >Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at >tools.ietf.org. > >The IETF Secretariat > From nobody Fri Jul 22 01:18:22 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA8B12DA3E for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 01:18:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.808 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.808 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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charset="euc-kr" Content-ID: <4D2487728338394381EE1CF835DA5E97@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll for adoption: draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yang X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:18:17 -0000 WWVzL3N1cHBvcnQuDQoNCk9uIDIwMTYtMDctMjAsIDExOjM2IEFNLCAiVGFyZWsgU2FhZCAodHNh YWQpIiA8dHNhYWRAY2lzY28uY29tPiB3cm90ZToNCg0KPkhpIFdHLA0KPg0KPlRoaXMgaXMgc3Rh cnQgb2YgYSB0d28gd2VlayBwb2xsIG9uIG1ha2luZyBkcmFmdC1yYXphLW1wbHMtbGRwLW1sZHAt eWFuZw0KPmEgTVBMUyB3b3JraW5nIGdyb3VwIGRvY3VtZW50Lg0KPlBsZWFzZSBzZW5kIGVtYWls IHRvIHRoZSBsaXN0IGluZGljYXRpbmcgqfh5ZXMvc3VwcG9ydKn3IG9yIKn4bm8vZG8gbm90DQo+ c3VwcG9ydKn3LiBJZiBpbmRpY2F0aW5nIG5vLCBwbGVhc2Ugc3RhdGUgeW91ciB0ZWNobmljYWwg cmVzZXJ2YXRpb25zIHdpdGgNCj50aGUgZG9jdW1lbnQuIElmIHllcywgcGxlYXNlIGFsc28gZmVl bCBmcmVlIHRvIHByb3ZpZGUgY29tbWVudHMgeW91J2QNCj5saWtlIHRvIHNlZSBhZGRyZXNzZWQg b25jZSB0aGUgZG9jdW1lbnQgaXMgYSBXRyBkb2N1bWVudC4NCj4NCj5UaGUgcG9sbCBlbmRzIEp1 bHkgMzEsIDIwMTYuDQo+DQo+UmVnYXJkcywNCj5UYXJlayBhbmQgTVBMUyBXRyBjaGFpcnMNCg0K DQoNCj4NCg0K From nobody Fri Jul 22 01:28:38 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B9E12DA42 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 01:28:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.187 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.187 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8mRrccTItAqL for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 01:28:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E7E912D672 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 01:28:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [31.133.177.67] (dhcp-b143.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.177.67]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DAC491802A30; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 10:28:33 +0200 (CEST) To: "mpls@ietf.org" , "Tarek Saad (tsaad)" References: From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <9d653c63-049c-549a-5633-01b6880c3ce7@pi.nu> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 10:28:31 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll for adoption: draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yang X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:28:38 -0000 All, (I wanted to do this for a long time, it is Andy's fault, he did it once). +1 (I also wanted to do this) support (as co-author) puuuh - done! promise not to do it again. On a more serious note. The +1 and the support as co-author does not help the shepherd to call consensus, it is not a surprise that the co-authors support adopting a document :)! the +1 gives almost no info, there is a tendency to think that people doing the +1 have not really reviewed the document (could be right or wrong). Bit a statement that you have read the document and think it is ready for working group adoption is far better. For the record - I have read the document and believe that it could have been adopted much earlier. We know that we need this document and it is fairly easy to see that it is a good starting point for the wg to carry on reaching consensus on the models. /Loa On 2016-07-22 10:18, Reshad Rahman (rrahman) wrote: > Yes/support. > > On 2016-07-20, 11:36 AM, "Tarek Saad (tsaad)" wrote: > >> Hi WG, >> >> This is start of a two week poll on making draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yang >> a MPLS working group document. >> Please send email to the list indicating ©øyes/support©÷ or ©øno/do not >> support©÷. If indicating no, please state your technical reservations with >> the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd >> like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. >> >> The poll ends July 31, 2016. >> >> Regards, >> Tarek and MPLS WG chairs > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > From nobody Fri Jul 22 05:29:42 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B2C12B04A for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 05:29:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.62 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.62 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e4QrocTOxMzC for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 05:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B997412D144 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 05:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u6MCTaT8017706; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:29:36 +0100 Received: from 950129200 (dhcp-b05f.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.176.95]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u6MCTZsd017695 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:29:36 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Martin Vigoureux'" , References: <57828D0C.6000100@nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <57828D0C.6000100@nokia.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 13:29:38 +0100 Message-ID: <0a4d01d1e414$b6e07fe0$24a17fa0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHK12reTckU1MgdGo3835yU8a3jzaAydQXg Content-Language: en-gb X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1679-8.0.0.1202-22466.007 X-TM-AS-Result: No--18.114-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--18.114-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: 1GZI+iG+MteI0KPyMNrNUkNTnAhL0/m3QPCWRE0Lo8JaW2Ktn+I8/hKA ewg97VeY2qAxUduGUHzZiwCPgDBYEWbxI8bKMM2V04Rmz/agfdxaNaxZBRbNWgv5ehI/zNJacF6 rggxRxksOIAD2O/MgJ33J0gEt3fM9Vkb6T8YCGB3huXUWQoMQt7d2noO4P7rALraGNlLRahhxDZ qHzfZ66Q3D4NiLZlKus4zBRS3zNhG36bWU2xVUigDPuhU4P53KUe6Cirv2Avf1hE3O9q/rWEvs0 z/QUgiyTPnwfilucT5zdzFkPjVoty2PQJ73d0XSQr2qXCJMSV91k+gP1XamtJsoi2XrUn/JyeMt MD9QOgAfACoClnjRoWLHjeGkjh9X3QfwsVk0UbtuRXh7bFKB7naaIfLBktk1gyssPVMwxZMe3B3 EQd53/lJdrC5U1OEGvuvB6gAgryg= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] 2nd WG LC on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 12:29:41 -0000 It's not your fault, Martin, but I don't understand this second WG last call. There was no revision to the document, and no discussion on the list that I can see. Will we adopt "This WG last call will be repeated until we get the answer we want" as our normal mode of operation? I wonder whether, in view of the absence of any changes or discussions, my opinion from the previous last call still carries over. For the record, my opinion as stated for the first last call has not changed, although thanks to the IPR holder for the update that links directly to this document. Thanks, Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Martin Vigoureux > Sent: 10 July 2016 19:00 > To: mpls@ietf.org > Subject: [mpls] 2nd WG LC on draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed > > WG, > > as said by Ross [1], I have been appointed Document Shepherd for > draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed [2]. As such I am also running the second > WG LC. > > So, this e-mail starts a WG LC which will end on the 31st of July. > > I'd like to remind that an IPR disclosure [3] exists against this document. > > So it is time to state whether or not you are in favour of progressing > the document. Please also take the time to review the document and post > comments on its content. > > Please respond to this call. > > Thank you > > Martin > > > [1]: > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mpls/rxnEv4LnUiwhTiZOhowOC6AcHYU > [2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed/ > [2]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2769/ > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Fri Jul 22 08:48:09 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF1F12D830 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:48:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CYvvALBufcr9 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi0-x234.google.com (mail-oi0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8709F12D76D for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi0-x234.google.com with SMTP id l72so168456252oig.2 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:48:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=B4hCoylKjmERo1VeBeuqFPINFMfbXTFS/8JaocSuhgg=; b=Z13A9ZR4/pkvp4oQtSZo369bLyGgEAWVPn+/GsVOfkwFNUhQZ4zpmYNVUhEiVfgD20 5Pukgm4wx+By90+vSzoZgRQUz2TKL/4lXvf+/w4Seqk5tI0RLQzFuzLK82lfyJO6Bay4 y2JVoTPSLhP3RnYI8OHV9quUZILWKCtBCNvM6NmjeQjQY/C1PIqPSv81h0zTsF9rmOBO 8q/L6xIq0kB36v+YcWIslnPknttN294ZBzDPsHrdDyL5Ge1/6sa/aiqxD1yX5vyM7aWT hsQUiPJ8bpdyObAdN3TkK9LZz4/4V7VBilO3ZgW4Gh7adg9pklHPGNNhplMtVPps3gcS ZcBg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=B4hCoylKjmERo1VeBeuqFPINFMfbXTFS/8JaocSuhgg=; b=eosLJnZ8sdEF92veeZxwZlT7PBwCZVuGD9vyCSEV32Bq7m5bJuzsEeUz5rxQTx3lx8 712f7I2USTIYl8aytSAvJw3JcqGc9NM/l408e83YG5Z7q+plwZ1y3xUM1l6B0XA1t8oo lqKJKxfT6ahwcHnKwD2mZKlrCkW6pJTvluSEWrHIf7uziSUFezVM5jgDqYygpGOaW5eN kcgGV2ugAukPHvAobG6UyPndlJlkcbEhJ/U8hTATZdnmviQYbUF/gAjAIkULYzOcrpFy dmnXBJR6/Ux2NYyttySIrXm9npqFf++rw8Y2m4e4eMItjWaq11SD4iU1u3TjXWQK1lFi GTPQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouu2Cc+ZMSCT0B0soJzruccGOAniqTw+3hRyJNTmdiSzahh5MbIjnNf7VqjnGp69mOiiWVV3lK9MCqD0Mg== X-Received: by 10.157.29.249 with SMTP id w54mr2203190otw.36.1469202484932; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:48:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.250.19 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:47:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9d653c63-049c-549a-5633-01b6880c3ce7@pi.nu> References: <9d653c63-049c-549a-5633-01b6880c3ce7@pi.nu> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:47:45 +0200 Message-ID: To: Loa Andersson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113e327a37b81d05383b5ce4 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll for adoption: draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yang X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 15:48:08 -0000 --001a113e327a37b81d05383b5ce4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree with Loa that this could have been adopted much earlier, so +1. :-) Cheers, Andy On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Loa Andersson wrote: > All, > > (I wanted to do this for a long time, it is Andy's fault, he did > it once). > > +1 > > (I also wanted to do this) > > support (as co-author) > > puuuh - done! promise not to do it again. > > On a more serious note. The +1 and the support as co-author does not > help the shepherd to call consensus, it is not a surprise that the > co-authors support adopting a document :)! > > the +1 gives almost no info, there is a tendency to think that people > doing the +1 have not really reviewed the document (could be right or > wrong). Bit a statement that you have read the document and think it is > ready for working group adoption is far better. > > For the record - I have read the document and believe that it could > have been adopted much earlier. We know that we need this document and > it is fairly easy to see that it is a good starting point for the wg to > carry on reaching consensus on the models. > > /Loa > > > On 2016-07-22 10:18, Reshad Rahman (rrahman) wrote: > >> Yes/support. >> >> On 2016-07-20, 11:36 AM, "Tarek Saad (tsaad)" wrote: >> >> Hi WG, >>> >>> This is start of a two week poll on making draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yan= g >>> a MPLS working group document. >>> Please send email to the list indicating =C2=B3yes/support=C2=B2 or =C2= =B3no/do not >>> support=C2=B2. If indicating no, please state your technical reservatio= ns with >>> the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd >>> like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. >>> >>> The poll ends July 31, 2016. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Tarek and MPLS WG chairs >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list >> mpls@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >> >> --001a113e327a37b81d05383b5ce4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I agree with Loa that this could have been adopted much ea= rlier, so +1. :-)

Cheers,
Andy

<= /div>

On Fri= , Jul 22, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
All,

(I wanted to do this for a long time, it is Andy's fault, he did
it once).

+1

(I also wanted to do this)

support (as co-author)

puuuh - done! promise not to do it again.

On a more serious note. The +1 and the support as co-author does not
help the shepherd to call consensus, it is not a surprise that the
co-authors support adopting a document :)!

the +1 gives almost no info, there is a tendency to think that people
doing the +1 have not really reviewed the document (could be right or
wrong). Bit a statement that you have read the document and think it is
ready for working group adoption is far better.

For the record - I have read the document and believe that it could
have been adopted much earlier. We know that we need this document and
it is fairly easy to see that it is a good starting point for the wg to
carry on reaching consensus on the models.

/Loa


On 2016-07-22 10:18, Reshad Rahman (rrahman) wrote:
Yes/support.

On 2016-07-20, 11:36 AM, "Tarek Saad (tsaad)" <tsaad@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi WG,

This is start of a two week poll on making draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yang a MPLS working group document.
Please send email to the list indicating =C2=B3yes/support=C2=B2 or =C2=B3n= o/do not
support=C2=B2. If indicating no, please state your technical reservations w= ith
the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends July 31, 2016.

Regards,
Tarek and MPLS WG chairs





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mpls-chairs@ietf.org >> Subject: [mpls] Poll for adoption: draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yang >>=20 >> Hi WG, >>=20 >> This is start of a two week poll on making draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yang a= MPLS >> working group document. >> Please send email to the list indicating =93yes/support=94 or =93no/do no= t support=94. 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If yes, >> please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed onc= e the >> document is a WG document. >>=20 >> The poll ends July 31, 2016. >>=20 >> Regards, >> Tarek and MPLS WG chairs >> _______________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list >> mpls@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Fri Jul 22 14:12:10 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3B612D776; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:12:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n_lnZhflQy4c; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vk0-x232.google.com (mail-vk0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6AD712B05B; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vk0-x232.google.com with SMTP id x130so173996406vkc.0; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:12:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=JotVej93Fj+qcRXtvpbSs8PfRPAdN3Xxf1bsHL47c6I=; b=YOe2ieb4PdaqzDWMi6C/wVGPPa10l9/sod+iTSkZM0Rz8NtuLQ/UTb6EbutMxJiAk0 NnRRrMcTur6sC1cQwX9q/CrOwCmSj8G+XbA8xyb5UNeQBV05Sujlea1yMdw1bV5gfAQm Bo+DISwgilotBADTQmP8VwEnkW8KataKZcwn71mMJ/3/crk4WzggdCrpnf4bNiTlEdvJ 875vmMfKn61Zf0QvgysndqdgcW2gSg0q4WlTG9CaY4MSRRIxmVmHoh2HREyJimC1ZwUs eMMpF7MN/pMkClYU5It7ThunjNkDoLSUOuZu5BH2JqvvouKnPy+PKSQTKS3hk+rTB0nR YScg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=JotVej93Fj+qcRXtvpbSs8PfRPAdN3Xxf1bsHL47c6I=; b=ZwaLvi79wlWbwKrGDS+YRKZaZkyTxk8Pfp2FN4DUK4yW/E2RpA7mbtPmC+3Z5WN7Ii dHfEc+mygJnri/loBfISXsefKmwpgOHLwVXX2qZRsvlU35LjOQ7sSnuJWCqisKFPxtyn kwDIWHJC2hCEW3PceMwrddaDMKCtleJtCoFjngtuUILJv7g3GIq5huLmcONqo3HiR9zD dsFG4Zu9YH+Phq+eONsgV33ilP8sEAFP1EiHnHBOBW692jGgZlZP6RdVMEBPIj4aDbHm m275AldAJko+r/C9f32fqrPyOlGy6XJbyGaChVBlC7lZJvRe0eKiywjh5cjdjQT5wJho 3auA== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouuvH6RvdGgpas2VIsl4EuPdik0uy/9rQ2LYlfNfNrkbVwfWtloCcAne1HAHms6SSaGIgzB3SEZarTjrDg== X-Received: by 10.176.65.41 with SMTP id j38mr3087448uad.108.1469221925895; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:12:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.154.66 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:12:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3beaf5e5-db43-e8e6-f24b-c75e23d467f2@pi.nu> References: <3beaf5e5-db43-e8e6-f24b-c75e23d467f2@pi.nu> From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:12:05 -0400 Message-ID: To: Loa Andersson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c123592fd440b05383fe20a Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] working adoption poll on g draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 21:12:09 -0000 --94eb2c123592fd440b05383fe20a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Support. Regards, -Pavan (as a contributor) On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 5:21 AM, Loa Andersson wrote: > > Working Group, > > This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-chandra-mpls-ri- > rsvp-frr as a MPLS working group document. > > Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working > group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical > motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that > the document should not be adopted as a working group document. > > There is one IPR disclosure against either document.. > > All the authors have stated on the MPLS wg mailing list that they are > unaware of any other IPRs that those that has been disclosed > > The MPLS-RT review had some comments about the relationship between > this document and draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte. The authors > of draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte has told the wg chairs that > their draft is almost ready for working group adoption. It seems, given > that one or both documents are accepted as wg denouements, that these > issues are more efficiently resolved during working document process. > > The working group adoption poll ends August 2, 2016. > > /Loa > mpls wg co-chair > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com > Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu > Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > --94eb2c123592fd440b05383fe20a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Support.

Regards,
-Pavan (= as a contributor)

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 5:21 AM, Loa Andersson = <loa@pi.nu>= wrote:

Working Group,

This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-chandra-mpls-ri-
rsvp-frr as a MPLS working group document.

Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working
group mailing list (mpls= @ietf.org). Please give a technical
motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that
the document should not be adopted as a working group document.

There is one IPR disclosure against either document..

All the authors have stated on the MPLS wg mailing list that they are
unaware of any other IPRs that those that has been disclosed

The MPLS-RT review had some comments about the relationship between
this document and draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte. The authors
of draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte has told the wg chairs that
their draft is almost ready for working group adoption. It seems, given
that one or both documents are accepted as wg denouements, that these
issues are more efficiently resolved during working document process.

The working group adoption poll ends August 2, 2016.

/Loa
mpls wg co-chair
--


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Support.

Regards,
-Pavan


>= > -----Original Message-----
>> From: mpls [mailto:mpls-b= ounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tarek Saad (tsaad)
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 5:36 AM
>> To: mpls@ietf.org
>> Cc: draf= t-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yang@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org
>> Subject: [mpls] Poll for adoption: draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yang >>
>> Hi WG,
>>
>> This is start of a two week poll on making draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mld= p-yang a MPLS
>> working group document.
>> Please send email to the list indicating =E2=80=9Cyes/support=E2= =80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno/do not support=E2=80=9D. If
>> indicating no, please state your technical reservations with the d= ocument. If yes,
>> please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see ad= dressed once the
>> document is a WG document.
>>
>> The poll ends July 31, 2016.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tarek and MPLS WG chairs
>> _______________________________________________
>> mpls mailing list
>> mpls@ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________
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Scudder" , "spring@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [mpls] WG adoption requested for draft-psarkar-spring-mpls-anycast-segments Thread-Index: AQHR5a2ZhiZbvzzK2UKu/Q/GF3xj8A== Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 13:16:33 +0000 Message-ID: <0CC2618F-717F-4F1A-A9E5-C37DCD5523C6@nokia.com> References: <5D8D1F47-F36D-48FB-A256-2C338D2E5612@juniper.net> In-Reply-To: <5D8D1F47-F36D-48FB-A256-2C338D2E5612@juniper.net> Accept-Language: nl-BE, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/0.0.0.151008 x-originating-ip: [135.239.27.38] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] WG adoption requested for draft-psarkar-spring-mpls-anycast-segments X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 13:16:39 -0000 SSBzdXBwb3J0IFdHIGFkb3B0aW9uDQoNCg0KDQoNCk9uIDI0LzA3LzE2IDE0OjM5LCAibXBscyBv biBiZWhhbGYgb2YgSm9obiBHLiBTY3VkZGVyIiA8bXBscy1ib3VuY2VzQGlldGYub3JnIG9uIGJl aGFsZiBvZiBqZ3NAanVuaXBlci5uZXQ+IHdyb3RlOg0KDQo+RGVhciBXRyAoYW5kIGNjIE1QTFMs IHBsZWFzZSBpbmNsdWRlIFNQUklORyBpbiByZXBsaWVzKSwNCj4NCj5BcyB3ZSBkaXNjdXNzZWQg YXQgb3VyIG1lZXRpbmcsIHdvcmtpbmcgZ3JvdXAgYWRvcHRpb24gaGFzIGJlZW4gcmVxdWVzdGVk IGZvciBkcmFmdC1wc2Fya2FyLXNwcmluZy1tcGxzLWFueWNhc3Qtc2VnbWVudHMuIFBsZWFzZSBy ZXBseSB0byB0aGUgbGlzdCB3aXRoIHlvdXIgY29tbWVudHMsIGluY2x1ZGluZyBhbHRob3VnaCBu b3QgbGltaXRlZCB0byB3aGV0aGVyIG9yIG5vdCB5b3Ugc3VwcG9ydCBhZG9wdGlvbi4gTm9uLWF1 dGhvcnMgYXJlIGVzcGVjaWFsbHkgZW5jb3VyYWdlZCB0byBjb21tZW50Lg0KPg0KPldlIHdpbGwg ZW5kIHRoZSBjYWxsIG9uIEF1Z3VzdCAzMSwgMjAxNS4gDQo+DQo+QXV0aG9ycywgcGxlYXNlIGlu ZGljYXRlIHdoZXRoZXIgeW91IGFyZSBhd2FyZSBvZiBhbnkgcmVsZXZhbnQgSVBSIGFuZCBpZiBz bywgd2hldGhlciBpdCBoYXMgYmVlbiBkaXNjbG9zZWQuIEFsc28sIHRoZSBsZW5ndGggb2YgdGhl IGF1dGhvciBsaXN0IGZvciB0aGlzIGRvY3VtZW50IGV4Y2VlZHMgdGhlIG1heGltdW0gcmVjb21t ZW5kZWQuIEFzc3VtaW5nIHRoZSBkb2N1bWVudCBpcyBhZG9wdGVkLCB0aGUgYXV0aG9ycyBzaG91 bGQgYmUgcHJlcGFyZWQgdG8gY29ycmVjdCB0aGlzIHdoZW4gc3VibWl0dGluZyBhcyBhIFdHIGRv Y3VtZW50LCBpZGVhbGx5IGJ5IHJlZHVjaW5nIHRoZSBsaXN0IHRvIHNpbXBseSB0aGUgYWN0aXZl IGVkaXRvcihzKSBhbmQgbWFraW5nIHVzZSBvZiB0aGUgImNvbnRyaWJ1dG9ycyIgc2VjdGlvbiBm b3IgdGhlIGZ1bGwgbGlzdC4NCj4NCj5UaGFua3MsDQo+DQo+LS1CcnVubyBhbmQgSm9obg0KPg0K Pl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fDQo+bXBscyBt YWlsaW5nIGxpc3QNCj5tcGxzQGlldGYub3JnDQo+aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaWV0Zi5vcmcvbWFpbG1h bi9saXN0aW5mby9tcGxzDQo= From nobody Sun Jul 24 08:27:44 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD1F12D885; 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Sun, 24 Jul 2016 08:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Pushpasiss-MacBook-Pro.local ([122.171.57.246]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y184sm33438598pfg.94.2016.07.24.08.27.33 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Jul 2016 08:27:34 -0700 (PDT) To: "John G. Scudder" , spring@ietf.org References: <5D8D1F47-F36D-48FB-A256-2C338D2E5612@juniper.net> From: Pushpasis Sarkar Message-ID: <8fec46ac-42c8-2ced-3664-bbbcfa1a15c2@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 21:00:16 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5D8D1F47-F36D-48FB-A256-2C338D2E5612@juniper.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] [spring] WG adoption requested for draft-psarkar-spring-mpls-anycast-segments X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 15:27:43 -0000 Hi John, I support WG adoption as an author. Personally I know a couple of operators who are looking forward to some interesting applications of anycast segments with SPRING. Hence adopting this document certainly makes sense. On IPR front, I am not aware of any IPR so far. Thanks and Regards, -Pushpasis On 7/24/16 6:09 PM, John G. Scudder wrote: > Dear WG (and cc MPLS, please include SPRING in replies), > > As we discussed at our meeting, working group adoption has been requested for draft-psarkar-spring-mpls-anycast-segments. Please reply to the list with your comments, including although not limited to whether or not you support adoption. Non-authors are especially encouraged to comment. > > We will end the call on August 31, 2015. > > Authors, please indicate whether you are aware of any relevant IPR and if so, whether it has been disclosed. Also, the length of the author list for this document exceeds the maximum recommended. Assuming the document is adopted, the authors should be prepared to correct this when submitting as a WG document, ideally by reducing the list to simply the active editor(s) and making use of the "contributors" section for the full list. > > Thanks, > > --Bruno and John > > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring From nobody Sun Jul 24 19:13:14 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5389A12D666; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 19:13:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.507 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.507 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7xLHJU9lZhvM; 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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tarek Saad (tsaad)
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 5:36 AM
>> To: mpls@ietf.o= rg
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>> Subject: [mpls] Poll for adoption: draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yang >>
>> Hi WG,
>>
>> This is start of a two week poll on making draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mld= p-yang a MPLS
>> working group document.
>> Please send email to the list indicating =A1=B0yes/support=A1=B1 o= r =A1=B0no/do not support=A1=B1. If
>> indicating no, please state your technical reservations with the d= ocument. If yes,
>> please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addres= sed once the
>> document is a WG document.
>>
>> The poll ends July 31, 2016.
>>
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>> Tarek and MPLS WG chairs
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Thanks, Rakesh On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 5:36 AM, Tarek Saad (tsaad) wrote= : > Hi WG, > > This is start of a two week poll on making draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yang = a > MPLS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating =E2=80=9Cyes/support=E2=80=9D or= =E2=80=9Cno/do not > support=E2=80=9D. If indicating no, please state your technical reservati= ons with > the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd lik= e > to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > The poll ends July 31, 2016. > > Regards, > Tarek and MPLS WG chairs > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > --001a11408f08939669053877ee70 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Support.

Thanks,
Rakesh

On Wed= , Jul 20, 2016 at 5:36 AM, Tarek Saad (tsaad) <tsaad@cisco.com> wrote:
Hi WG,

This is start of a two week poll on making draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yang a = MPLS working group document.
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The poll ends July 31, 2016.

Regards,
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are n= ow available. Please see "session II" at the link below. Thanks to all ou= r minute takers! Please let me know if you have any comments or correction= s. https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/minutes/minutes-96-pce Best regards Jon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- Session II Joint YANG session with MPLS & TEAS & PCE Time: July 21, 2016, 16:20-18:20 (4:20pm-6:20pm) Location: Charlottenburg II/III, Intercontinental Berlin, Germany ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- Last meeting co-chaired by Ross. Set of pictures of Ross sitting between Pa= van and Jon taken by Lou and George. 1. Introduction --------------- 1.1. Welcome, Administrivia, Agenda Bashing (chairs, 10 min) (16:20-16:30) 2. YANG models discussion ------------------------- 2.1 YANG Data Model for TE Topologies https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-topo/ Xufeng Liu, 20 min (16:30-16:50) Dhruv Dhody: Relationship with SR model? XL: Types to be shared. DD: Do we need RW on per-node attributes? Tarek: There are cases where information is learned via IGP, but other case= s where static may be supported, thus the need for RW DD: What do we do on conflicts? TBD Igor Bryskin: one of the clients (users?) wanted to do path computation bas= ed on TE information as well Pavan: How many have read? Not so many. Please read and send comments to th= e list. 2.2 A YANG Data Model for Traffic Engineering Tunnels and Interfaces https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-yang-te/ Tarek Saad, 20 min (16:50-17:10) Lou Berger: Send that [option request] to Netmod. Xian Zhang: No strong preference among options, but, do these options on tu= nnel model also apply to TE topology? TS: I think you are actually asking about somthing that is derrived from routing config, which is also using option #2 (schema mount). LB: Routing config is using it, although the another wildcard form. logical element and network instance in the RTGWG are also using this form. Thi= s would be the 1st use of mounting a specific schema. Loa Anderson: Issues to be fixed on valid ranges of label values. TS: Ack LA: Ambiguous names to be fixed on H-LSP part. LB: What about Extension Labels (RFC7274) TA: will need to consider. DD: Be careful on artifical segmentation around PCC/PCE... DD: The lsp-key is 5 tuple and it should support extensions towards other technologies, e.g., SR. TA: Will have split P2P and P2MP LSPs so will have index within each (sub) trees LA: ietf-te-yang inherits from 2 models; do we need to ensure special revie= w for these cases? 2.3 A YANG Data Model for MPLS Static LSPs https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang/ Tarek Saad, 20 min (17:10-17:30) Iftekar (Infinera): Who's taking care of switch over? TS: Static configuration. Pre-programmed backups are possible. Behaviors wi= dely depend on DP capabilities. LB: What about OpenConfig's "applied state" discussion? TS: No IETF consensus about its usage so far. LB: Indeed, reco is not to jump to fast, too much error-prone. TS: General consistency matters. LB: From routing area discussion: use to be limited. View as author? Pavan: Agreed on consistency, but eithier way is fine. LB: Simplifying our models might be nice. Maybe we should ask the room. Kamran Raza (Cisco): Should be consistent with MPLS document, some fallback already happened. XL: Not so much work. Structure to be simplified. LA: Would it work if both simplified and more complicated module were pushe= d? LB: Would work, but more implementation load. 2 different ways for every information element; Having just one way to access the information impl= ies less code. LB (chair hat on): How many care? How many for simplified? How many for OpenConfig approach with augmentation? How many for OpenConfig as is? 2.4 TEAS Transport Service Model https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-teas-transport-service-model/ Xian Zhang, 15 min (17:30-17:45) Tarek S: I don't understand what's missing from other modules for "step 1". XZ: SB relies on PCEP, this is a service model. Daniele Ceccareli: Is technology-specific only on tunnels or also at servic= e level? XZ: A couple of attributes are relevant for services. DC: OK, so both tunnels and service include technology-specific. Anurag Sharma (Infinera): Commonalty with tunnel: required work? XZ: Many things from tunnels turn optional/unnecessary. Himanshu Shah: Would end up creating something covered by other service mod= els. George Swallow: There seem to be confusion. Service layer may be different = from transport layer (e.g., Ethernet and OTN). Jon: This document is about transport as a service, not end user service HS: Need another document to connect all the dots DC: We can have higher layer services on top of pipe as well as service fil= ling in pipes. We don't have a common service model, like an umbrella. XZ: We are looking at it differently, where we can have the ethernet or OTN service DC: Any plans in mind to solve non-te services? XZ: Plans only for transport/TE. Igor Bryskin: There is no difference between transport or service so lets j= ust use (existing) tunnel model XZ: Indeed, difference is not clear. 2.5 PCEP YANG https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pkd-pce-pcep-yang/ Dhruv Dhody, 15 min (17:45-18:00) Jeff Tantsura: Key-chain is close to LC. Julien: Who has read document? Who thinks it should be a WG document? Who thinks it shouldn't be a WG document? Clear consensus in the room. Decision will be confirmed by a poll on th= e PCE list. 2.6 YANG Data Model for MPLS LDP and mLDP https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yang/ Kamran Raza, 15 min (18:00-18:15) No question 2.7 LSP-PING-YANG https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zheng-mpls-lsp-ping-yang-cfg-03 Greg Mirsky (remaining time; started at 6:07) Italo Busi: Are you including MEG, MEP, MIP, etc? GM: LSP ping doesn't need those. No intention to introduce them there. Zheng? (Huawei, co-author): Confirmed <6:12 - Meeting adjourned> --_000_BY2PR0201MB1910DD268B9AFE84EDDC2A38840E0BY2PR0201MB1910_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The draft minutes for the joint MPLS/PCE/TEAS YANG m= eeting at IETF 96 are now available.  Please see “session IIR= 21; at the link below.  Thanks to all our minute takers!  Please = let me know if you have any comments or corrections.

https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/minutes/minutes-96-p= ce

 

Best regards

Jon

 

= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----

= Session II

= Joint YANG session with MPLS & TEAS & PCE

=  

= Time:

=      July 21, 2016, 16:20-18:20 (4:20pm-6:20pm)

=  

= Location:

=      Charlottenburg II/III, Intercontinental Berlin, Ge= rmany

=  

= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----

=  

= Last meeting co-chaired by Ross. Set of pictures of Ross sitting between Pa= van

= and Jon taken by Lou and George.

=  

= 1. Introduction

= ---------------

=  

= 1.1. Welcome, Administrivia, Agenda Bashing (chairs, 10 min) (16:20-16:30)<= o:p>

=  

=  

= 2. YANG models discussion

= -------------------------

=  

= 2.1 YANG Data Model for TE Topologies

= = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-topo/

= Xufeng Liu, 20 min (16:30-16:50)

=  

= Dhruv Dhody: Relationship with SR model?

= XL: Types to be shared.

= DD: Do we need RW on per-node attributes?

= Tarek: There are cases where information is learned via IGP, but other case= s

=        where static may be supported, thus th= e need for RW

= DD: What do we do on conflicts? TBD

= Igor Bryskin: one of the clients (users?) wanted to do path computation bas= ed

=             &nb= sp; on TE information as well

= Pavan: How many have read? Not so many. Please read and send comments to th= e

=        list.

=  

=  

= 2.2 A YANG Data Model for Traffic Engineering Tunnels and Interfaces

= https= ://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-yang-te/<= /p>

= Tarek Saad, 20 min (16:50-17:10)

=  

= Lou Berger: Send that [option request] to Netmod.

= Xian Zhang: No strong preference among options, but, do these options on tu= nnel

=             model al= so apply to TE topology?

= TS: I think you are actually asking about somthing that is derrived from

=     routing config, which is also using  option #2 (sch= ema mount).

= LB: Routing config is using it, although the another wildcard form. logical=

=     element and network instance in the RTGWG are also using= this form. This

=     would be the 1st use of mounting a specific schema.=

= Loa Anderson: Issues to be fixed on valid ranges of label values.

= TS: Ack

= LA: Ambiguous names to be fixed on H-LSP part.

= LB: What about Extension Labels (RFC7274)

= TA: will need to consider.

= DD: Be careful on artifical segmentation around PCC/PCE...

= DD: The lsp-key is 5 tuple and it should support extensions towards other

=     technologies, e.g., SR.

= TA: Will have split P2P and P2MP LSPs so will have index within each (sub)<= o:p>

=     trees

= LA: ietf-te-yang inherits from 2 models; do we need to ensure special revie= w

=     for these cases?

=  

=  

= 2.3 A YANG Data Model for MPLS Static LSPs

= h= ttps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang/=

= Tarek Saad, 20 min (17:10-17:30)

=  

= Iftekar (Infinera): Who's taking care of switch over?

= TS: Static configuration. Pre-programmed backups are possible. Behaviors wi= dely

=     depend on DP capabilities.

= LB: What about OpenConfig's "applied state" discussion?

= TS: No IETF consensus about its usage so far.

= LB: Indeed, reco is not to jump to fast, too much error-prone.

= TS: General consistency matters.

= LB: From routing area discussion: use to be limited. View as author?

= Pavan: Agreed on consistency, but eithier way is fine.

= LB: Simplifying our models might be nice. Maybe we should ask the room.

= Kamran Raza (Cisco): Should be consistent with MPLS document, some fallback=

=             &nb= sp;        already happened.<= /span>

= XL: Not so much work. Structure to be simplified.

= LA: Would it work if both simplified and more complicated module were pushe= d?

= LB: Would work, but more implementation load.  2 different ways for ev= ery

=     information element; Having just one way to access the i= nformation implies

=     less code.

= LB (chair hat on):

=     How many care? <A decent number, but "not as man= y as expected">

=     How many for simplified? <Almost the same>

=     How many for OpenConfig approach with augmentation? <= A small number>

=     How many for OpenConfig as is? <One>

=  

=  

= 2.4 TEAS Transport Service Model

= https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-teas-transport-ser= vice-model/

= Xian Zhang, 15 min (17:30-17:45)

=  

= Tarek S: I don't understand what's missing from other modules for "ste= p 1".

= XZ: SB relies on PCEP, this is a service model.

= Daniele Ceccareli: Is technology-specific only on tunnels or also at servic= e

=             &nb= sp;      level?

= XZ: A couple of attributes are relevant for services.

= DC: OK, so both tunnels and service include technology-specific.=

= Anurag Sharma (Infinera): Commonalty with tunnel: required work?=

= XZ: Many things from tunnels turn optional/unnecessary.

= Himanshu Shah: Would end up creating something covered by other service mod= els.

= George Swallow: There seem to be confusion. Service layer may be different = from

=             &nb= sp;   transport layer (e.g., Ethernet and OTN).=

= Jon: This document is about transport as a service, not end user service

= HS: Need another document to connect all the dots

= DC: We can have higher layer services on top of pipe as well as service fil= ling

=     in pipes. We don't have a common service model, like an = umbrella.

= XZ: We are looking at it differently, where we can have the ethernet or OTN=

=     service

= DC: Any plans in mind to solve non-te services?

= XZ: Plans only for transport/TE.

= Igor Bryskin: There is no difference between transport or service so lets j= ust

=             &nb= sp; use (existing) tunnel model

= XZ: Indeed, difference is not clear.

=  

=  

= 2.5 PCEP YANG

= https= ://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pkd-pce-pcep-yang/<= /p>

= Dhruv Dhody, 15 min (17:45-18:00)

=  

= Jeff Tantsura: Key-chain is close to LC.

=  

= Julien: Who has read document? <Some>

=  

=     Who thinks it should be a WG document? <more!>

=  

=     Who thinks it shouldn't be a WG document? <none>

=  

=     Clear consensus in the room. Decision will be confirmed = by a poll on the

=     PCE list.

=  

=  

= 2.6 YANG Data Model for MPLS LDP and mLDP

= https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-raza-mpls-ldp-mldp-yang/

= Kamran Raza, 15 min (18:00-18:15)

=  

= No question

=  

=  

= 2.7 LSP-PING-YANG

= https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zheng-mpls-lsp-ping-yang-cfg-03

= Greg Mirsky (remaining time; started at 6:07)

=  

= Italo Busi: Are you including MEG, MEP, MIP, etc?

= GM: LSP ping doesn't need those. No intention to introduce them there.=

= Zheng? (Huawei, co-author): Confirmed

=  

= <6:12 - Meeting adjourned>

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--_000_BY2PR0201MB1910DD268B9AFE84EDDC2A38840E0BY2PR0201MB1910_-- From nobody Tue Jul 26 13:57:36 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535CB12D95D; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 13:57:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.619 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.619 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TorxCoQtACqG; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 13:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com (mx0b-00191d01.pphosted.com [67.231.157.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C748412D920; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 13:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0049459.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0049459.ppops.net-00191d01. (8.16.0.11/8.16.0.11) with SMTP id u6QKmlat007445; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:57:31 -0400 Received: from alpi155.enaf.aldc.att.com (sbcsmtp7.sbc.com [144.160.229.24]) by m0049459.ppops.net-00191d01. with ESMTP id 24eehhnvsx-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:57:31 -0400 Received: from enaf.aldc.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alpi155.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u6QKvSdg006043; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:57:30 -0400 Received: from mlpi409.sfdc.sbc.com (mlpi409.sfdc.sbc.com [130.9.128.241]) by alpi155.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u6QKvGU1005412 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:57:24 -0400 Received: from MISOUT7MSGHUBAA.ITServices.sbc.com (MISOUT7MSGHUBAA.itservices.sbc.com [130.9.129.145]) by mlpi409.sfdc.sbc.com (RSA Interceptor); Tue, 26 Jul 2016 20:57:15 GMT Received: from MISOUT7MSGUSRDE.ITServices.sbc.com ([169.254.5.69]) by MISOUT7MSGHUBAA.ITServices.sbc.com ([130.9.129.145]) with mapi id 14.03.0294.000; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:57:15 -0400 From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" To: "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Retiring Co-Chair and New Co-Chair Thread-Index: AdHnfrA+6ty6gN+rR+aaW0nzsuEzrQ== Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 20:57:14 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [130.10.234.224] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F64C10EAA68C8044B33656FA214632C8529E98E8MISOUT7MSGUSRDE_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:, , definitions=2016-07-26_14:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_policy_notspam policy=outbound_policy score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1604210000 definitions=main-1607260223 Archived-At: Cc: " \(rtg-ads@ietf.org\)" , "Ross Callon \(rcallon@juniper.net\)" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] Retiring Co-Chair and New Co-Chair X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 20:57:34 -0000 --_000_F64C10EAA68C8044B33656FA214632C8529E98E8MISOUT7MSGUSRDE_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MPLS WG, For those that attended last week's meeting, it was announced Ross Callon w= ill be retiring. He has been the MPLS Co-Chair these last years and previou= sly our Routing AD. He is one of the few that can claim to have been at the= first IETF meeting! We wish you all the best Ross! In consultation with the MPLS Co-Chairs and the other RTG ADs, we have aske= d Nic Leymann (N.Leymann@telekom.de) to take o= n the role of Co-Chair. Nic is familiar to all of us as he has been an acti= ve participant in MPLS and other WGs. Welcome Nic! Thanks- Deborah --_000_F64C10EAA68C8044B33656FA214632C8529E98E8MISOUT7MSGUSRDE_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MPLS WG,
 
For those that attended last week’s meeting, it was announced Ro= ss Callon will be retiring. He has been the MPLS Co-Chair these last years = and previously our Routing AD. He is one of the few that can claim to have = been at the first IETF meeting! We wish you all the best Ross!
 
In consultation with the MPLS Co-Chairs and the other RTG ADs, we have= asked Nic Leymann (N.Leymann@telekom.de) to take on the role of Co-= Chair. Nic is familiar to all of us as he has been an active participant in MPLS and other WGs. Welcome Nic!
 
Thanks-
Deborah
 
 
 --_000_F64C10EAA68C8044B33656FA214632C8529E98E8MISOUT7MSGUSRDE_-- From nobody Tue Jul 26 17:45:31 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8528D12DA84; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:45:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.889 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.889 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Cuna2DOpgQd4; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03ECE12D1E3; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id D99B1B811B1; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:45:27 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20160727004527.D99B1B811B1@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Cc: drafts-update-ref@iana.org, mpls@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [mpls] RFC 7876 on UDP Return Path for Packet Loss and Delay Measurement for MPLS Networks X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 00:45:29 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 7876 Title: UDP Return Path for Packet Loss and Delay Measurement for MPLS Networks Author: S. Bryant, S. Sivabalan, S. Soni Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: July 2016 Mailbox: stewart.bryant@gmail.com, msiva@cisco.com, sagsoni@cisco.com Pages: 10 Characters: 21092 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-udp-return-path-05.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7876 DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.17487/RFC7876 RFC 6374 defines a protocol for Packet Loss and Delay Measurement for MPLS networks (MPLS-PLDM). This document specifies the procedures to be used when sending and processing out-of-band MPLS performance management Responses over an UDP/IP return path. This document is a product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From nobody Wed Jul 27 02:36:33 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F45412DD82; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 02:36:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.187 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.187 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yxnl9hJDXIuX; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 02:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57AE712DD7F; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 02:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (81-236-221-144-no93.tbcn.telia.com [81.236.221.144]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2759118015A1; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 11:36:26 +0200 (CEST) To: "mpls@ietf.org" References: From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <7a2ad48e-7743-05b7-ee91-4231ae45ca67@pi.nu> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 11:36:18 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: " \(rtg-ads@ietf.org\)" , "Ross Callon \(rcallon@juniper.net\)" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] Retiring Co-Chair and New Co-Chair X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 09:36:32 -0000 Working Group, I'd the opportunity to work with Ross over quite a long time, both in the IETF, in other standards organizations and for other events. He was the MPLS AD for several years. I've enjoyed working him and we have been through many interesting times together. He has been a rich source of experience, good suggestions and good advises. I hope he will stay tuned to the working group mailing list and chime in when necessary. I also hope that he will have a good retirement, and find time for his other interests in life. Much as I've enjoyed working with Ross, I nevertheless want to welcome Nic as the MPLS working group co-chair. I also known Nic for many years and is convince that he will make many good contributions to the working group. Please join me in welcoming Nic. /Loa On 2016-07-26 22:57, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote: > MPLS WG, > > For those that attended last week’s meeting, it was announced Ross > Callon will be retiring. He has been the MPLS Co-Chair these last years > and previously our Routing AD. He is one of the few that can claim to > have been at the first IETF meeting! We wish you all the best Ross! > > In consultation with the MPLS Co-Chairs and the other RTG ADs, we have > asked Nic Leymann (_N.Leymann@telekom.de_ ) > to take on the role of Co-Chair. Nic is familiar to all of us as he has > been an active participant in MPLS and other WGs. 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DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:HE1PR0301MB2266; H:HE1PR0301MB2266.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: ecitele.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: ecitele.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 27 Jul 2016 11:46:19.2130 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 2c514a61-08de-4519-b4c0-921fef62c42a X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: HE1PR0301MB2266 Archived-At: Cc: " \(rtg-ads@ietf.org\)" , "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] Retiring Co-Chair and New Co-Chair X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 11:46:25 -0000 Ross, I join Deborah and Loa with lots of thanks for the great job you've done at= the IETF - a job that covers at least the last 30 years and includes co-au= thorship of RFC with numbers starting at 986 and going up to 7510 (with su= ch jewels as 1195, 1925 and 3031 among them).=20 I (and I think many other people) will miss you. I wish you best of luck in= whatever you are going to do.=20 And, of course, Nic - welcome! My 2c Sasha Office: +972-39266302 Cell: +972-549266302 Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com -----Original Message----- From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:36 PM To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: (rtg-ads@ietf.org) ; Ross Callon (= rcallon@juniper.net) ; mpls-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] Retiring Co-Chair and New Co-Chair Working Group, I'd the opportunity to work with Ross over quite a long time, both in the I= ETF, in other standards organizations and for other events. He was the MPLS= AD for several years. I've enjoyed working him and we have been through ma= ny interesting times together. He has been a rich source of experience, goo= d suggestions and good advises. I hope he will stay tuned to the working gr= oup mailing list and chime in when necessary. I also hope that he will have= a good retirement, and find time for his other interests in life. Much as I've enjoyed working with Ross, I nevertheless want to welcome Nic = as the MPLS working group co-chair. I also known Nic for many years and is = convince that he will make many good contributions to the working group. Pl= ease join me in welcoming Nic. /Loa On 2016-07-26 22:57, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote: > MPLS WG, > > For those that attended last week's meeting, it was announced Ross=20 > Callon will be retiring. He has been the MPLS Co-Chair these last=20 > years and previously our Routing AD. He is one of the few that can=20 > claim to have been at the first IETF meeting! We wish you all the best Ro= ss! > > In consultation with the MPLS Co-Chairs and the other RTG ADs, we have=20 > asked Nic Leymann (_N.Leymann@telekom.de_=20 > ) to take on the role of Co-Chair. Nic is=20 > familiar to all of us as he has been an active participant in MPLS and ot= her WGs. Welcome Nic! > > Thanks- > Deborah > > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Wed Jul 27 07:28:28 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0D012D98D; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 07:28:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.202 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.202 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zsKsuM2HpEgA; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 07:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usplmg21.ericsson.net (usplmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37EFC12D835; 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Wed, 27 Jul 2016 07:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from McAsterix.local ([92.109.37.136]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d8sm7488949wmi.0.2016.07.27.07.35.14 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 27 Jul 2016 07:35:15 -0700 (PDT) References: <48E1A67CB9CA044EADFEAB87D814BFF64A8573CA@eusaamb107.ericsson.se> To: Eric Gray , "draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection@ietf.org" From: Huub van Helvoort Message-ID: <0efc68e6-2018-0260-7d23-1c57438d48fd@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 16:35:14 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <48E1A67CB9CA044EADFEAB87D814BFF64A8573CA@eusaamb107.ericsson.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR Poll RE: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: huubatwork@gmail.com List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 14:35:19 -0000 Hello Eric, Apart from the already declared IPR I am not aware of any additional IPR. Best regards, Huub. On 27-07-16 16:28, Eric Gray wrote: > This is an IPR Poll relative to the MPLS Working Group Internet Draft "MPLS-TP Shared-Ring protection (MSRP) mechanism for ring topology." > > As of this request, there are 4 IPR declarations listed at: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=draft&id=draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection > > The authors have indicated that they believe the draft is ready for Working Group Last Call. This poll is in anticipation of that Working Group Last Call. > > Authors and contributors please reply to this E-Mail indicating whether or not you are aware of any IPR that may apply to this draft that is not yet the subject of an IPR declaration available at the site above (i.e. - IPR that has not already been declared). > > Working Group participants, if you know of any IPR that may apply to this draft which has not yet been declared, please reply to this E-Mail with the relevant information that you are aware of and able to disclose. In addition, you may be asked to initiate a process to provide the required declaration. > > This poll will close on Friday, 5 August, 2016 - at 23:59 US Pacific Time. > > -- > Eric > > -----Original Message----- > From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu] > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 10:58 AM > To: mpls@ietf.org > Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Eric Gray; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection@ietf.org > Subject: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection > > Working Group, > > Eric Gray has been appointed Document Shepherd for draft-ietf-mpls- > tp-shared-ring-protection. > > Please join us welcoming Eric in this new role. > > /Loa > mpls wg co-chairs > -- ================================================================ Always remember that you are unique...just like everyone else... From nobody Wed Jul 27 09:45:43 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684CC12B051; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 09:45:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.739 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.739 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX=2.845, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.793] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o44iyoZbhqQt; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 09:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hickoryhill-consulting.com (unknown [50.245.122.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAA0F127077; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 09:45:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=forwardok (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=184.157.85.5; From: "Susan Hares" To: "'BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 12:45:00 -0400 Message-ID: <01fe01d1e826$37bb5440$a731fcc0$@ndzh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01FF_01D1E804.B0AB8900" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQIt4O1eaAcvqsyMvG4sI0Ww/M0lWZ90illA X-Authenticated-User: skh@ndzh.com Archived-At: Cc: rtg-ads@ietf.org, 'Ross Callon' , mpls-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] Retiring Co-Chair and New Co-Chair X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 16:45:42 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01FF_01D1E804.B0AB8900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Deborah: +1 - I wish Ross the best in his retirement. I hope he will enjoy his garden and his family. Sue From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 4:57 PM To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: (rtg-ads@ietf.org); Ross Callon (rcallon@juniper.net); mpls-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] Retiring Co-Chair and New Co-Chair MPLS WG, For those that attended last week's meeting, it was announced Ross Callon will be retiring. He has been the MPLS Co-Chair these last years and previously our Routing AD. He is one of the few that can claim to have been at the first IETF meeting! We wish you all the best Ross! In consultation with the MPLS Co-Chairs and the other RTG ADs, we have asked Nic Leymann ( N.Leymann@telekom.de) to take on the role of Co-Chair. Nic is familiar to all of us as he has been an active participant in MPLS and other WGs. Welcome Nic! Thanks- Deborah ------=_NextPart_000_01FF_01D1E804.B0AB8900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Deborah:

 

+1 – I wish Ross the best in his retirement.  I hope he = will enjoy his garden and his family.

 

Sue

 

From:= = mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, = DEBORAH A
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 4:57 PM
To: = mpls@ietf.org
Cc: <rtg-ads@ietf.org> (rtg-ads@ietf.org); = Ross Callon (rcallon@juniper.net); = mpls-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [mpls] Retiring Co-Chair and New = Co-Chair

 

MPLS = WG,

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For those = that attended last week’s meeting, it was announced Ross Callon = will be retiring. He has been the MPLS Co-Chair these last years and = previously our Routing AD. He is one of the few that can claim to have = been at the first IETF meeting! We wish you all the best = Ross!

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In = consultation with the MPLS Co-Chairs and the other RTG ADs, we have = asked Nic Leymann (N.Leymann@telekom.de) to take on the = role of Co-Chair. Nic is familiar to all of us as he has been an active = participant in MPLS and other WGs. Welcome = Nic!

 =

Thanks-

Deborah

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SCL:1; SRVR:MWHPR05MB2814; H:MWHPR05MB2814.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: juniper.net does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 27 Jul 2016 17:39:47.6416 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: MWHPR05MB2814 Archived-At: Cc: " \(rtg-ads@ietf.org\)" , "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] Retiring Co-Chair and New Co-Chair X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 17:39:53 -0000 I would like to thank everyone for their kind words (and for a few free bee= rs last week in Berlin!). The past 30+ years in the IETF has been a great o= pportunity and a great learning experience. I have so many people to thank = that I don't know where to start.=20 There is an old saying that every dog has its day. At this point I think th= at it is time for me to move on. I am quite sure that the MPLS working grou= p and the IETF will continue to do excellent work whether with or without m= e.=20 In the ongoing work in the IETF, I hope that everyone will continue to keep= in mind the enormous value that we have all received due to the huge succe= ss of the Internet, which in turn depends upon the well defined interoperab= le standards produced by the IETF. The work that you are doing is indeed ve= ry important. We have changed the world, enriched all of our lives, and in = the process provided enormous economic opportunities for each of us and for= our companies. Without good standards this could not have happened.=20 Thanks, and keep up the good work, Ross -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Vainshtein [mailto:Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:46 AM To: Loa Andersson; Ross Callon; N.Leymann@telekom.de Cc: (rtg-ads@ietf.org); mpls-chairs@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.= org Subject: RE: [mpls] Retiring Co-Chair and New Co-Chair Ross, I join Deborah and Loa with lots of thanks for the great job you've done at= the IETF - a job that covers at least the last 30 years and includes co-au= thorship of RFC with numbers starting at 986 and going up to 7510 (with su= ch jewels as 1195, 1925 and 3031 among them).=20 I (and I think many other people) will miss you. I wish you best of luck in= whatever you are going to do.=20 And, of course, Nic - welcome! My 2c Sasha Office: +972-39266302 Cell: +972-549266302 Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com -----Original Message----- From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:36 PM To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: (rtg-ads@ietf.org) ; Ross Callon (= rcallon@juniper.net) ; mpls-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] Retiring Co-Chair and New Co-Chair Working Group, I'd the opportunity to work with Ross over quite a long time, both in the I= ETF, in other standards organizations and for other events. He was the MPLS= AD for several years. I've enjoyed working him and we have been through ma= ny interesting times together. He has been a rich source of experience, goo= d suggestions and good advises. I hope he will stay tuned to the working gr= oup mailing list and chime in when necessary. I also hope that he will have= a good retirement, and find time for his other interests in life. Much as I've enjoyed working with Ross, I nevertheless want to welcome Nic = as the MPLS working group co-chair. I also known Nic for many years and is = convince that he will make many good contributions to the working group. Pl= ease join me in welcoming Nic. /Loa On 2016-07-26 22:57, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote: > MPLS WG, > > For those that attended last week's meeting, it was announced Ross=20 > Callon will be retiring. He has been the MPLS Co-Chair these last=20 > years and previously our Routing AD. He is one of the few that can=20 > claim to have been at the first IETF meeting! We wish you all the best Ro= ss! > > In consultation with the MPLS Co-Chairs and the other RTG ADs, we have=20 > asked Nic Leymann (_N.Leymann@telekom.de_=20 > ) to take on the role of Co-Chair. Nic is=20 > familiar to all of us as he has been an active participant in MPLS and ot= her WGs. Welcome Nic! > > Thanks- > Deborah > > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Wed Jul 27 14:04:49 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD3B12DD74; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 14:04:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.29.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160727210443.10521.4891.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 14:04:43 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org, ipr-announce@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] IPR Disclosure Juniper Networks, Inc.'s Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 21:04:44 -0000 Dear Kireeti Kompella, Carlos Pignataro, Nagendra Kumar, Sam Aldrin, Mach Chen: An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "Detecting Multi-Protocol Label Switched (MPLS) Data Plane Failures" (draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2826/). The title of the IPR disclosure is "Juniper Networks, Inc.'s Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis" Thank you IETF Secretariat From nobody Wed Jul 27 18:59:17 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3AA312DA9E; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 18:59:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.887 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.887 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uYRCHBvYunSS; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 18:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmccmta2.chinamobile.com (cmccmta2.chinamobile.com [221.176.66.80]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348AE12D5AF; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 18:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spf.mail.chinamobile.com (unknown[172.16.121.17]) by rmmx-syy-dmz-app08-12008 (RichMail) with SMTP id 2ee8579966e56e6-38400; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 09:59:01 +0800 (CST) X-RM-TRANSID: 2ee8579966e56e6-38400 X-RM-SPAM-FLAG: 00000000 Received: from cmcc (unknown[183.243.253.136]) by rmsmtp-syy-appsvr09-12009 (RichMail) with SMTP id 2ee9579966e4bf1-ec030; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 09:59:01 +0800 (CST) X-RM-TRANSID: 2ee9579966e4bf1-ec030 From: "Weiqiang Cheng" To: "'Eric Gray'" , References: <48E1A67CB9CA044EADFEAB87D814BFF64A8573CA@eusaamb107.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <48E1A67CB9CA044EADFEAB87D814BFF64A8573CA@eusaamb107.ericsson.se> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 09:59:00 +0800 Message-ID: <003201d1e873$9c859be0$d590d3a0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AdHoEJn2Q+CNA4yTTQ2BB6b5gDNdrwAYu+aw Content-Language: zh-cn Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR Poll RE: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 01:59:16 -0000 Hi Eric=EF=BC=8C Apart from the already declared IPR I am not aware of any additional = IPR. B.R. Weiqiang Cheng -----=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6=E5=8E=9F=E4=BB=B6----- =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Eric Gray [mailto:eric.gray@ericsson.com]=20 =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2016=E5=B9=B47=E6=9C=8827=E6=97=A5 = 22:28 =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: = draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection@ietf.org =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: IPR Poll RE: = draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection This is an IPR Poll relative to the MPLS Working Group Internet Draft = "MPLS-TP Shared-Ring protection (MSRP) mechanism for ring topology." As of this request, there are 4 IPR declarations listed at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=3Ddraft&id=3Ddraft-ietf-m= pls-tp-shared-ring-protection The authors have indicated that they believe the draft is ready for = Working Group Last Call. This poll is in anticipation of that Working = Group Last Call. Authors and contributors please reply to this E-Mail indicating whether = or not you are aware of any IPR that may apply to this draft that is not = yet the subject of an IPR declaration available at the site above (i.e. = - IPR that has not already been declared). Working Group participants, if you know of any IPR that may apply to = this draft which has not yet been declared, please reply to this E-Mail = with the relevant information that you are aware of and able to = disclose. In addition, you may be asked to initiate a process to = provide the required declaration. This poll will close on Friday, 5 August, 2016 - at 23:59 US Pacific = Time. -- Eric -----Original Message----- From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu] Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 10:58 AM To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Eric Gray; = draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection@ietf.org Subject: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection Working Group, Eric Gray has been appointed Document Shepherd for draft-ietf-mpls- = tp-shared-ring-protection. Please join us welcoming Eric in this new role. /Loa mpls wg co-chairs --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Thu Jul 28 00:37:38 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F120512D59D; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 00:37:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.508 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.508 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sD_Z6Nm3YpbJ; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 00:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 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+0800 (CST) X-RM-TRANSID: 2eea579b0bc1994-19a2c From: "Wang Lei" To: "'Eric Gray'" , References: <48E1A67CB9CA044EADFEAB87D814BFF64A8573CA@eusaamb107.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <48E1A67CB9CA044EADFEAB87D814BFF64A8573CA@eusaamb107.ericsson.se> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 15:54:18 +0800 Message-ID: <000001d1e96e$6a640830$3f2c1890$@chinamobile.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQKZMHVw58tusrZUKvTcMdatjh6a2J6ge9DQ Content-Language: zh-cn Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] =?utf-8?b?562U5aSNOiBJUFIgUG9sbCBSRTogZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi1tcGxz?= =?utf-8?q?-tp-shared-ring-protection?= X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 08:54:33 -0000 I'm not aware of any other IPR except the four already declared. Thank = you. Lei Wang -----=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6=E5=8E=9F=E4=BB=B6----- =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Eric Gray [mailto:eric.gray@ericsson.com]=20 =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2016=E5=B9=B47=E6=9C=8827=E6=97=A5 = 22:28 =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: = draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection@ietf.org =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: IPR Poll RE: = draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection This is an IPR Poll relative to the MPLS Working Group Internet Draft = "MPLS-TP Shared-Ring protection (MSRP) mechanism for ring topology." As of this request, there are 4 IPR declarations listed at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=3Ddraft&id=3Ddraft-ietf-m= pls-tp-shared-ring-protection The authors have indicated that they believe the draft is ready for = Working Group Last Call. This poll is in anticipation of that Working = Group Last Call. Authors and contributors please reply to this E-Mail indicating whether = or not you are aware of any IPR that may apply to this draft that is not = yet the subject of an IPR declaration available at the site above (i.e. = - IPR that has not already been declared). Working Group participants, if you know of any IPR that may apply to = this draft which has not yet been declared, please reply to this E-Mail = with the relevant information that you are aware of and able to = disclose. In addition, you may be asked to initiate a process to = provide the required declaration. This poll will close on Friday, 5 August, 2016 - at 23:59 US Pacific = Time. -- Eric -----Original Message----- From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu] Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 10:58 AM To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Eric Gray; = draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection@ietf.org Subject: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection Working Group, Eric Gray has been appointed Document Shepherd for draft-ietf-mpls- = tp-shared-ring-protection. Please join us welcoming Eric in this new role. /Loa mpls wg co-chairs --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Fri Jul 29 02:00:51 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193D712D90A; Fri, 29 Jul 2016 02:00:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.508 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.508 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QucY0pTOrcRg; Fri, 29 Jul 2016 02:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0287E126579; 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WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160727210443.10521.4891.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] IPR disclosure - Re: IPR Disclosure Juniper Networks, Inc.'s Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 11:35:27 -0000 Working Group, Since this disclosure arrives during wglc, I would like to bring it to your attention. The way I read it this is "just a way" the IPR holder to re-confirm that there opinion is that IPRs related to RFC 4379 are also applicable to draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis. Nevertheless review and give (without discussing the validity of the IPR) the same short statement on whether you think it is OK to progress the document. /Loa mpls wg co-chair On 2016-07-27 23:04, IETF Secretariat wrote: > Dear Kireeti Kompella, Carlos Pignataro, Nagendra Kumar, Sam Aldrin, Mach Chen: > > > An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "Detecting > Multi-Protocol Label Switched (MPLS) Data Plane Failures" > (draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on and has > been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" > (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2826/). The title of the IPR disclosure is > "Juniper Networks, Inc.'s Statement about IPR related to > draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis" > > > Thank you > > IETF Secretariat > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > From nobody Sun Jul 31 08:48:46 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E2512B036; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 08:48:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZVDu4umFhxft; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 08:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pf0-x235.google.com (mail-pf0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C356312B015; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 08:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pf0-x235.google.com with SMTP id h186so46923295pfg.3; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 08:48:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=YFL6gZTcFbamUVifP0W0l3PkJC0DE5TO6vyVRj3dsnk=; b=bwuZQn8rxXXQq/XlrYthifV8XDqNxPuqxwZ2QIM61d/NHMvElczdEN27rO5ZX7wmVy N6Ll02Em6IMoxJfWEeipuv20A+rgjjOpAv+P6IJYJ+MnTakWVJlPYMvlTnh2mAWMeukP 3RiqdF17CDFydw0KuKmy/bMC6Uaq4qU/BVlID+oM7+NEjoSTAtxYC63nahyVoBiiwia9 gVZzdMp2rT6lPVhJV+WbEpl0IK/jutVc8O7aW0CtnhkmYy9siD3S8NRjP/XSAsjc8tz+ sBBXeMZ3W0h6pryJtOx3+UbX4ua/AMzIAogR/x3f8nWIIUYS8qvwBcvP3HnGfqIEspAZ eDWA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=YFL6gZTcFbamUVifP0W0l3PkJC0DE5TO6vyVRj3dsnk=; b=VWdGvG2HWozidxAwy+nl0N96Ddni5h0QSfy83TuH597x+RrsSJwJ52JGKTPTd4aWc9 gbTUwQQoc4TP6/vSTfIxCN8dtmn1HDcj8xQNbSc6srfrmWGpyPYZwBvuQs2kFVpdbfWK 0oBmZLeuh4pCCY2nAHh3oQpyf3lA3iTVD0iU1+p1PemW/zrZGhl/CAhFU1MChnnE9yma 5TyRXZdza0y1CnegKfl536zCjHmw1Qx275S0nmiovcSbIvDkpmDvytkI5YIeQCb+JnRg xzHvwHwcAZY6CDB8wHHqKTGZjNsq6bBoEYM9TZe7YPd0azPo0NhOr5vkz2v5VdsFW4NC 6bqA== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoousR8TgcRIC6BGHP8rwAURaaKOwPxrtkIDrHh/yPAbEdxlgQ7qAeWzfSzr0zM/E1vA== X-Received: by 10.98.192.144 with SMTP id g16mr88332707pfk.55.1469980123234; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 08:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.71.7.139] ([8.25.222.2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c125sm38990739pfc.40.2016.07.31.08.48.42 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 31 Jul 2016 08:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Colby Barth X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13F69) In-Reply-To: <3beaf5e5-db43-e8e6-f24b-c75e23d467f2@pi.nu> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 08:48:39 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <4025E991-F866-4C4C-ADD7-51BBB61AFE0F@gmail.com> References: <3beaf5e5-db43-e8e6-f24b-c75e23d467f2@pi.nu> To: Loa Andersson Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] working adoption poll on g draft-chandra-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 15:48:46 -0000 Support -Colby Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 19, 2016, at 2:21 AM, Loa Andersson wrote: > > > Working Group, > > This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-chandra-mpls-ri- > rsvp-frr as a MPLS working group document. > > Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working > group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical > motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that > the document should not be adopted as a working group document. > > There is one IPR disclosure against either document.. > > All the authors have stated on the MPLS wg mailing list that they are > unaware of any other IPRs that those that has been disclosed > > The MPLS-RT review had some comments about the relationship between > this document and draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte. The authors > of draft-mtaillon-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte has told the wg chairs that > their draft is almost ready for working group adoption. It seems, given > that one or both documents are accepted as wg denouements, that these > issues are more efficiently resolved during working document process. > > The working group adoption poll ends August 2, 2016. > > /Loa > mpls wg co-chair > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com > Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu > Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Sun Jul 31 09:42:45 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15D912B027; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 09:42:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Oz_wYxu_QhR0; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 09:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi0-x230.google.com (mail-oi0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9E3612B004; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 09:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi0-x230.google.com with SMTP id w18so165570023oiw.3; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 09:42:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ZZOUwF0PcA+45pSS0ugzzY9dLNds9p9Hsz45YTjK6vw=; b=H3jq5LynRqtRMiQuybIHfTuBmsTMONxw+GUMAZG+IpkmMDmmcxCYABgjRio8o4SG2q j1gj71QPAB2zecFNUFZpLHnZk16PXuSiMAgLS113meKxbA8pFMjdMU++xszAHDIVjA5y vJKPfLKafdMrfEIMVzyiBp2kU9HuSajNC3SYv0g+DbQ8DNWE0Km95ZJo/Y8dfmnGBHeb 26RIoolknJ4GBX04nrY9RDkyv8eNFNdYzuZc/ahFgBAYiTEoDNnn5QqCYyoGl0LOEDen kW7qub8d/yZEYaz015yuM7QNcRFG+Mi4K/Z83mlBdFyBnWzsJIu4tg6sCE8ce2+gvJ2Q P32w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ZZOUwF0PcA+45pSS0ugzzY9dLNds9p9Hsz45YTjK6vw=; b=cNsdltqjT+r3Mszv7JNi1LRF2GkhWo9h58eZj0VZSkkDYlboMEkhngb2QBZnaJk363 3M00jalD3upFlAypDAnbioGOsNSVVvt9FHMz0RtOJ+X6XnqwOknFHvcpPE7mcbwF4iLE SNjW5RlAV676CyVKtCgaJ7hX8n136oIFWJaxxXbfn1vXCkmcHcsbFc5G+grN+kXwHDJa b1qmXH3tnGURqEOx0G+nyrTKX4o+Hc61hozQIaO3q1ZI8q5Ee6ubrghDIMBQUvv0pZh3 2ao3/rWTAyVIKLFMEMizc/YdmYz4tpALaWRhanIdUArNJDclp26v2eUL/OKRHXDNInuV vxLQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouuvLuSWqkX2JXB1uS1kRkZNelXdDk6IrLvMQIeGHohOYaxo8IgfyvimEPM4OrMBvFCDk312jyneW8iaww== X-Received: by 10.202.53.198 with SMTP id c189mr30518181oia.65.1469983362081; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 09:42:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.250.19 with HTTP; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 09:42:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9d87b020-6b68-245f-0650-09b9befe5178@pi.nu> References: <20160727210443.10521.4891.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <9d87b020-6b68-245f-0650-09b9befe5178@pi.nu> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 12:42:22 -0400 Message-ID: To: Loa Andersson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113ceecc1f68800538f12c82 Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis@ietf.org, "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR disclosure - Re: IPR Disclosure Juniper Networks, Inc.'s Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 16:42:45 -0000 --001a113ceecc1f68800538f12c82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Loa, I=E2=80=99m fine with progressing the draft, as you said this is the same a= s the original RFC. Cheers, Andy On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, > > Since this disclosure arrives during wglc, I would like to bring it to > your attention. > > The way I read it this is "just a way" the IPR holder to re-confirm > that there opinion is that IPRs related to RFC 4379 are also applicable > to draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis. > > Nevertheless review and give (without discussing the validity of > the IPR) the same short statement on whether you think it is OK to > progress the document. > > /Loa > > mpls wg co-chair > > On 2016-07-27 23:04, IETF Secretariat wrote: > >> Dear Kireeti Kompella, Carlos Pignataro, Nagendra Kumar, Sam Aldrin, Mac= h >> Chen: >> >> >> An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "Detecti= ng >> Multi-Protocol Label Switched (MPLS) Data Plane Failures" >> (draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on >> and has >> been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosure= s" >> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2826/). The title of the IPR >> disclosure is >> "Juniper Networks, Inc.'s Statement about IPR related to >> draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis" >> >> >> Thank you >> >> IETF Secretariat >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list >> mpls@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >> >> > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > --001a113ceecc1f68800538f12c82 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Loa,

I=E2=80=99m fine with progressing = the draft, as you said this is the same as the original RFC.

=
Cheers,
Andy


On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 7:35 AM,= Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
= Working Group,

Since this disclosure arrives during wglc, I would like to bring it to your= attention.

The way I read it this is "just a way" the IPR holder to re-confi= rm
that there opinion is that IPRs related to RFC 4379 are also applicable
to draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis.

Nevertheless review and give (without discussing the validity of
the IPR) the same short statement on whether you think it is OK to
progress the document.

/Loa

mpls wg co-chair

On 2016-07-27 23:04, IETF Secretariat wrote:
Dear Kireeti Kompella, Carlos Pignataro, Nagendra Kumar, Sam Aldrin, Mach C= hen:


An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "Detec= ting
Multi-Protocol Label Switched (MPLS) Data Plane Failures"
(draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on=C2=A0= and has
been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosu= res"
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2826/). The title of the= IPR disclosure is
"Juniper Networks, Inc.'s Statement about IPR related to
draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis"


Thank you

IETF Secretariat

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