From nobody Thu Jun 1 15:43:05 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1C8129ABD; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 15:42:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f9Pq306gzq18; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 15:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ua0-x235.google.com (mail-ua0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4785A129AA3; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 15:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ua0-x235.google.com with SMTP id j17so35944816uag.3; Thu, 01 Jun 2017 15:42:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=5PSpX9s/b+YMpP6cFZPWjAea93PjtRPHM6gHcpwks3I=; b=GFvZtOla4HQlTxDSbJzkSbeXoWywXzpVoQ2PqeKykmO3zXdvDWKE64SroCDI+LuXDe /p01Ggbo2SLjdsGyVbBtm430U9FYDpA2nCck1X/YYOrgxz0fCSf4k+B59uh64VyWlFml n5qIM3OzrrL2O7/0n41+QoUN6EipSlljewhWc2a+bPdvcxQ0zFNvUazMipsDf5OEOnZa 6JQla2/yeLwy6z9uGvaoJjGC72WGoJ/ll8NkA+CXwiUCG0PXVY/1Ev1wPBwOWJqcROjr SxAppQOyT/UBkR21UuusxX8wqRgLdP5SlcgTLy2/NBb2QDtYmPu8gUBZiKzXRLz2VNCs meyA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5PSpX9s/b+YMpP6cFZPWjAea93PjtRPHM6gHcpwks3I=; b=eoz/MHKc4q99KcyspcR+A8vuzRDeDjxjB8N/Q2TmmyBbz3J6M/60DkFKLF7bT2i2wL r28WAAMgMujDuHMvKCEdBL1Fwjl0BjCF4PotFMxe/NJCLFinI921Up4C5XVmdchDUYEu g/Q+7ksou7Ik8qDLyLkah9vnTbthoXblBcfpAuRn7PFXBacjXnSrLDa9vp0r1hLh/MNw a/jb3H4OrTOKSUBUKzh6a5Yf/PBCF8mIV4sDoyxKAIdCFcMBHUKbuNy4imT9Q8YQ6AF7 KfgV8eaVTHzyFA5gagFUhGwCfGush3dmFkSZ9ugvlsLQLS1jk4gk+uGHanOUpBMHk+Hg 11Ug== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcD/B8Jx9XK/4XCTU4iO236spU6oi79bCa6Ef4si6LvEvDHAqyZ1 MhBAPZsbRGkrvpeRcYgSrMcTULfhGA== X-Received: by 10.176.70.137 with SMTP id r9mr2181249uaa.149.1496356974465; Thu, 01 Jun 2017 15:42:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.159.38.108 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 15:42:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Shyam Sethuram Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 15:42:53 -0700 Message-ID: To: "John G. Scudder" Cc: "idr@ietf. org" , mpls@ietf.org, draft-decraene-idr-next-hop-capability@bgp.nu Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045dcf9ceb9c2a0550edc140" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] Working Group adoption call for draft-decraene-idr-next-hop-capability-03 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2017 22:42:57 -0000 --f403045dcf9ceb9c2a0550edc140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear authors, Some of the language sounds similar to that in draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps. Did you consider augmenting tunnel-encaps in order to signal EL by adding a new sub-TLV ? It is a transitive attribute but it has a Remote Endpoint sub-TLV to bind the capability to the specific nexthop. (It may require a new "tunnel type" to represent plain MPLS nexthops.) This would avoid the need to upgrade all the BGP speakers between egress and ingress. tunnel-encaps also has a Color sub-TLV that can be useful, for example, when using recursive resoltion, to select a subset of overlay prefixes that would actually use EL for forwarding. That said, some nitpicks: - dependant==>dependent; infact it can be totally avoided and just call it "Nexthop capabilites" - that said, it would be better to avoid reusing the term "Capabilities" for this attribute though I understand you are trying to draw a parallel with session capabilities thanks--shyam On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:32 AM, John G. Scudder wrote: > Hi All, > > IDR working group adoption has been requested for > draft-decraene-idr-next-hop-capability-03. Please send your comments to > the IDR mailing list before June 2, 2017. Please remember that we need > affirmative support in order to adopt the draft, so don't be shy. > > draft datatracker page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ > doc/draft-decraene-idr-next-hop-capability/ > slides from IETF-98: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/98/slides/slides- > 98-idr-08-bgp-next-hop-dependent-capabilities-00.pdf > > Since in part this draft specifies a replacement for the Entropy Label > Capability Attribute (ELCA) that was defined by the MPLS WG in RFC 6790 and > deprecated by RFC 7447, I have cc'd the MPLS WG mailing list. Since the > proposed new attribute is a generic container with the ELCA replacement > just the first application, the current draft is targeted to IDR and not > MPLS (this was discussed during IETF-93). > > Thanks, > > --John > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > --f403045dcf9ceb9c2a0550edc140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear authors,

Some of the language soun= ds similar to that in draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps.
Did you consider aug= menting tunnel-encaps in order to signal EL by
adding a new sub-TLV ? It= is a transitive attribute but it has a
Remote Endpoint sub-TLV to bind = the capability to the specific nexthop.
(It may require a new "tunn= el type" to represent plain MPLS nexthops.)

T= his would avoid the need to upgrade all the BGP speakers between egress
= and ingress. tunnel-encaps also has a Color sub-TLV that can be useful,
= for example, when using recursive resoltion, to select a subset of overlay<= br>prefixes that would actually use EL for forwarding.

=
That said, some nitpicks:
- dependant=3D=3D>dependent; infact it= can be totally avoided and just
call it "Nexthop capabilites"=
- that said, it would be better to avoid reusing the term "Capabil= ities" for this
attribute though I understand you are trying to dra= w a parallel with
session capabilities

thanks--= shyam

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:32 AM, John G. Scudder <= jgs@juniper.net>= ; wrote:
Hi All,

IDR working group adoption has been requested for draft-decraene-idr-next-h= op-capability-03. Please send your comments to the IDR mailing list be= fore June 2, 2017. Please remember that we need affirmative support in orde= r to adopt the draft, so don't be shy.

draft datatracker page: http= s://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-decraene-idr-next-hop-capabili= ty/
slides from IETF-98: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/98/slides/slid= es-98-idr-08-bgp-next-hop-dependent-capabilities-00.pdf

Since in part this draft specifies a replacement for the Entropy Label Capa= bility Attribute (ELCA) that was defined by the MPLS WG in RFC 6790 and dep= recated by RFC 7447, I have cc'd the MPLS WG mailing list. Since the pr= oposed new attribute is a generic container with the ELCA replacement just = the first application, the current draft is targeted to IDR and not MPLS (t= his was discussed during IETF-93).

Thanks,

--John
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with ESMTP id 2D568127B5A; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 13:31:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.52.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149643550714.31830.13217040825964794221@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 13:31:47 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping-03.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 20:31:47 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping/Traceroute for Segment Routing Networks with MPLS Dataplane Authors : Nagendra Kumar George Swallow Carlos Pignataro Nobo Akiya Sriganesh Kini Hannes Gredler Mach(Guoyi) Chen Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping-03.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2017-06-02 Abstract: Segment Routing architecture leverages the source routing and tunneling paradigms and can be directly applied to MPLS data plane. A node steers a packet through a controlled set of instructions called segments, by prepending the packet with a Segment Routing header. The segment assignment and forwarding semantic nature of Segment Routing raises additional consideration for connectivity verification and fault isolation in LSP with Segment Routing architecture. This document illustrates the problem and describe a mechanism to perform LSP Ping and Traceroute on Segment Routing network over MPLS data plane. 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As promised I will now answer the remaining comments in-line [Huub] > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > DISCUSS: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---8<--- snipped (see my previous response) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------- all the other questions > > In this text, > > When the service LSP passes through the interconnected rings, the > direction of the working ring tunnels used on both rings SHOULD be > the same. For example, if the service LSP uses the clockwise > working > ring tunnel on Ring1, when the service LSP leaves Ring1 and enters > Ring2, the working ring tunnel used on Ring2 SHOULD also follow the > clockwise direction. > > I'm not understanding why this is a SHOULD, and not a MUST. If the > direction of the working ring tunnels used on both rings is not the same, > does this still work? [Huub] it will still work. The SHOULD is in particular useful in case of dual-node interconnected rings. It ensures that the traffic passes only one of the two interconnecting nodes, and does not pass the link between the two interconnecting nodes. The traffic will then only be switched to the protection path if the interconnecting node fails which is in working path. > If it still works, why does this matter? But, either way, you might > usefully say something about why this isn't always the right thing to do, > even if you just give one example. The point of SHOULD is that > implementers make their own informed decisions, so providing information > that will inform those decisions seems important. [Huub] OK, point taken. > I wanted to call out > > Ring switches MUST be preempted by higher priority RPS requests. > For > example, consider a protection switch that is active due to a manual > switch request on the given link, and another protection switch is > required due to a failure on another link. Then an RPS request MUST > be generated, the former protection switch MUST be dropped, and the > latter protection switch established. > > MSRP mechanism SHOULD support multiple protection switches in the > ring, resulting in the ring being segmented into two or more > separate > segments. This may happen when several RPS requests of the same > priority exist in the ring due to multiple failures or external > switch commands. > > as really good examples of the kind of text I think would help the places > in this document ("For example", "This may happen when") where no > examples are given. Thanks for providing those examples! [Huub] thank you for your advise. > Ouch. Do I understand from > > o Protection Switching Mode (M): This 2-bit field indicates the > protection switching mode used by the sending node of the RPS > message. This can be used to check that the ring nodes on the > same ring use the same protection switching mechanism. The > defined values of the M field are listed as below: > > +------------------+-----------------------------+ > | Bits (MSB-LSB) | Protecton Switching Mode | > +------------------+-----------------------------+ > | 0 0 | Reserved | > | 0 1 | Wrapping | > | 1 0 | Short Wrapping | > | 1 1 | Steering | > +------------------+-----------------------------+ > > that you already have three protection mechanisms, and have only one > possible codepoint to allocate for any future optimizations? Assuming > that "0 0" can be unReserved ... [Huub] I hope the explanations I provided for the application of wrapping/short-wrapping/steering show that these are the only three possible mechanisms. > Could you clarify what "anyway" means in this text? > > When multiple MS RPS requests exist at the same time addressing > different links and there is no higher priority request on the ring, > no switch SHOULD be executed and existing switches MUST be dropped. > The nodes MUST signal, anyway, the MS RPS request code. [Huub] good point. To avoid confusion it would be better to replace the last sentence by: "The node still SHOULD signal the relevant RPS request". > I'm seeing that the commands like LP described in section 5.2.1.1 are > used in the document before these (I'm serious) helpful and clear > explanations appear. If it's possible to move section 5.2.1.1 up in the > document, that would be great, but if it isn't possible, a forward > pointer would be helpful to readers who don't already know what the > command abbreviations mean. [Huub] good point, we will take this into account when we make the revision of the draft. > I'm really confused by this SHOULD: > > The PSC protocol [RFC6378] is designed for point-to-point LSPs, on > which the protection switching can only be performed on one or both > of the end points of the LSP. The RPS protocol is designed for ring > tunnels, which consist of multiple ring nodes, and the failure could > happen on any segment of the ring, thus RPS SHOULD be capable of > identifying and handling the different failures on the ring, and > coordinating the protection switching behavior of all the nodes on > the ring. > > I suspect that's because it's not a 2119 SHOULD, but if people think it > is, I wouldn't mind understanding why. [Huub] you are right that is not a 2119 SHOULD, It would be better to replace "SHOULD be" by "is". (the protocol has been implemented and the capability has been tested successfully) > Section 5.3, "RPS and PSC Comparison on Ring Topology" is really helpful, > but it appears 43 pages in. Given that I'd expect people to be asking why > they should implement a new protection switching protocol when they've > already implemented PSC, I'd think this would be much more useful, early > in the document. [Huub] we can move the text up in the draft. > I'm somewhat confused about the code point allocation strategy in this > text: > > The RPS Request Field is 8 bits, the allocated values are as > follows: > > Value Description Reference > ------- --------------------------- --------------- > 0 No Request (NR) this document > 1 Reverse Request (RR) this document > 2 unassigned > 3 Exercise (EXER) this document > 4 unassigned > 5 Wait-To-Restore (WTR) this document > 6 Manual Switch (MS) this document > 7-10 unassigned > 11 Signal Fail (SF) this document > 12 unassigned > 13 Forced Switch (FS) this document > 14 unassigned > 15 Lockout of Protection (LP) this document > 16-254 unassigned > 255 Reserved > > My first question is, why the highest priority RPS value is 15, given > that the field is 8 bits wide. [Huub] the four LSB of the request field are sufficient for the required values. (in PSC and other technologies also four bits are used for the request coding). > If anyone ever needs to add a code point > higher than the highest priority code point, will that work well? [Huub] that will never be necessary. LP means protection is disabled. > I can > imagine code that says "if operation_priority is greater than > highest_priority, it's an error", for example. [Huub] indeed, this will be reported as FOP (failure of protocol). Best regards, Huub. -- ================================================================ Always remember that you are unique...just like everyone else... 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This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Updates to MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) Linear Protection in Automatic Protection Switching (APS) Mode Authors : Jeong-dong Ryoo Taesik Cheung Huub van Helvoort Italo Busi Guangjuan Wen Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-tp-aps-updates-04.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2017-06-03 Abstract: This document contains updates to MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) linear protection in Automatic Protection Switching (APS) mode defined in RFC 7271. The updates provide rules related to the initialization of the Protection State Coordination (PSC) Control Logic, in which the state machine resides, when operating in APS mode, and clarify some operation related to state transition table lookup. 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Scudder" , "draft-decraene-idr-next-hop-capability@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11457cc21ddc0505512c759f" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] Working Group adoption call for draft-decraene-idr-next-hop-capability-03 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2017 01:31:12 -0000 --001a11457cc21ddc0505512c759f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bruno, Thanks for the response. Please see inline... On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 3:12 AM, wrote: > Dear Shyam, > > > > Thanks for the review and feedback > > Please see inline [Bruno] > > > > *From:* Shyam Sethuram [mailto:shyam.ioml@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, June 02, 2017 12:43 AM > *To:* John G. Scudder > *Cc:* idr@ietf. org; mpls@ietf.org; draft-decraene-idr-next-hop- > capability@bgp.nu > *Subject:* Re: [mpls] Working Group adoption call for > draft-decraene-idr-next-hop-capability-03 > > > > Dear authors, > > > Some of the language sounds similar to that in > draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps. > Did you consider augmenting tunnel-encaps in order to signal EL by > adding a new sub-TLV ? It is a transitive attribute but it has a > Remote Endpoint sub-TLV to bind the capability to the specific nexthop. > (It may require a new "tunnel type" to represent plain MPLS nexthops.) > > [Bruno] To be honest, we have not considered using > draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps. That being said, if it=E2=80=99s a transiti= ve > attribute, it seems like a no go as this is the reason why the original E= LC > BGP attribute had been deprecated: cf this short section > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7447#section-1 > > > Yes any transitive attribute would have this issue. The tunnel-encaps solves this by encoding the nexthop address also in the Remote Endpoint sub-TLV. The receiver can then compare that with the MP_REACH nexthop and perform required validations. At a high level, I wanted to see if there was a way to avoid having two separate attributes that both essentially deal with nexthops. It is quite possible that a speaker receives both nexthop-cap and tunnel-encaps attributes for that same nexthop and has to synthesize the two data before installing into forwarding. On the other hand, tunnel-encaps has turned into a "monster attribute" with the whole kitchen sink in it; I can see a fertile breeding ground for implementation bugs :-) So I guess we'll see if anyone else has any opinion on this. Coming back to your attribute, as I said earlier w.r.t. coloring, I know atleast one usecase that wants to apply EL only to particular types of overlay traffic (for example, L2 vs L3 VPN) recursing to a given nexthop with EL capability. There are many ways to address that - a config knob, signal within the NH attribute, use the color extcomm and so on. If you have any thoughts on the same, please add it to the draft. > This would avoid the need to upgrade all the BGP speakers between egress > and ingress. tunnel-encaps also has a Color sub-TLV that can be useful, > for example, when using recursive resoltion, to select a subset of overla= y > prefixes that would actually use EL for forwarding. > > > > That said, some nitpicks: > - dependant=3D=3D>dependent; > > [Bruno] Thanks > > infact it can be totally avoided and just call it "Nexthop capabilites" > > [Bruno] Yes and that was the initial text. However, this had generated > some misunderstanding. In particular because the attribute is not > advertising the capability of the Next-Hop, but capability of this Next-H= op > _for the routes advertised with this capability. In particular, one > Next-Hop may advertise different capabilities for different routes. This = is > in needed for the Entropy Label Capability, as this ELC is FEC specific. > > That being said, I=E2=80=99m not that happy with the wording =E2=80=9CNex= t-Hop dependent > capability=E2=80=9D, hence any other suggestion is welcomed. > > > - that said, it would be better to avoid reusing the term "Capabilities" > for this > attribute though I understand you are trying to draw a parallel with > session capabilities > > [Bruno] Indeed, I was trying to draw a parallel with session capability. > Could you elaborate on why the term =E2=80=9CCapabilities=E2=80=9D is not= optimal? Would > you have alternate suggestion? > I don't have a strong opinion on this, it just seemed odd to reuse terminology from the base spec for a different purpose. I guess we can call it nexthop-properties or nexthop-forwarding-info or some such thing. No big deal, it's just a nit. thanks--shyam > > Thanks, > > Regards, > > --Bruno > > > > thanks--shyam > > > > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:32 AM, John G. Scudder wrote: > > Hi All, > > IDR working group adoption has been requested for > draft-decraene-idr-next-hop-capability-03. Please send your comments to > the IDR mailing list before June 2, 2017. Please remember that we need > affirmative support in order to adopt the draft, so don't be shy. > > draft datatracker page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ > doc/draft-decraene-idr-next-hop-capability/ > slides from IETF-98: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/98/slides/slides- > 98-idr-08-bgp-next-hop-dependent-capabilities-00.pdf > > Since in part this draft specifies a replacement for the Entropy Label > Capability Attribute (ELCA) that was defined by the MPLS WG in RFC 6790 a= nd > deprecated by RFC 7447, I have cc'd the MPLS WG mailing list. Since the > proposed new attribute is a generic container with the ELCA replacement > just the first application, the current draft is targeted to IDR and not > MPLS (this was discussed during IETF-93). > > Thanks, > > --John > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > > > _________________________________________________________________________= ________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confid= entielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez re= cu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages = electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme o= u falsifie. 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Hi Bruno,

Thanks for the response. Please see i= nline...


On F= ri, Jun 2, 2017 at 3:12 AM, <bruno.decraene@orange.com> wrote:

Dear = Shyam,

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Thank= s for the review and feedback

Pleas= e see inline [Bruno]

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From: Shyam Sethur= am [mailto:shyam.= ioml@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 12:43 AM
To: John G. Scudder
Cc: idr@ietf. org; mpls@ietf.org; draft-decraene-idr-next-hop-capability@bg= p.nu
Subject: Re: [mpls] Working Group adoption call for draft-decraene-i= dr-next-hop-capability-03

=C2=A0

Dear authors,


Some of the language sounds similar to that in draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps= .
Did you consider augmenting tunnel-encaps in order to signal EL by
adding a new sub-TLV ? It is a transitive attribute but it has a
Remote Endpoint sub-TLV to bind the capability to the specific nexthop.
(It may require a new "tunnel type" to represent plain MPLS nexth= ops.)

[Brun= o] To be honest, we have not considered using draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps.= That being said, if it=E2=80=99s a transitive attribute, it seems like a no go as this is the reason why the original ELC BGP attribute had been = deprecated: cf this short section https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7447#section-1

= =C2=A0

Yes any transitive attribute would have this issue. The tunnel-= encaps
solves this by encoding the nexthop address also in the Remote En= dpoint
sub-TLV. The receiver can then compare that with the MP_REACH nex= thop
and perform required validations.

At a hig= h level, I wanted to see if there was a way to avoid
having two separate= attributes that both essentially deal with nexthops.
It is quite= possible that a speaker receives both nexthop-cap and tunnel-encaps
<= div>attributes for that same=C2=A0nexthop and has to synthesize the two dat= a before
installing into forwarding. On the other hand, tunnel-en= caps has turned into a
"monster attribute" with the whole kitc= hen sink in it; I can see a fertile
breeding ground for implementation b= ugs :-)
So I guess we'll see if anyone else has any opini= on on this.

Coming back to your attribute, as I sa= id earlier w.r.t. coloring, I know
atleast one usecase that wants to app= ly EL only to particular
types of overlay traffic (for example, L2 vs L3= VPN) recursing to
a given nexthop with EL capability. There are many wa= ys to
address that - a config knob, signal within the NH attribute, use = the
color extcomm and so on. If you have any thoughts on the same,
pl= ease add it to the draft.

=C2=A0

This would avoid the need to up= grade all the BGP speakers between egress
and ingress. tunnel-encaps also has a Color sub-TLV that can be useful,
for example, when using recursive resoltion, to select a subset of overlay<= br> prefixes that would actually use EL for forwarding.

=C2=A0

That said, some nitpicks:
- dependant=3D=3D>dependent;=

infact it can be totally avoide= d and just call it "Nexthop capabilites"

That = being said, I=E2=80=99m not that happy with the wording =E2=80=9CNext-Hop d= ependent capability=E2=80=9D, hence any other suggestion is welcomed.


- that said, it would be better to avoid reusing the term "Capabilitie= s" for this
attribute though I understand you are trying to draw a parallel with
session capabilities

=C2=A0

Thank= s,

Regar= ds,

--Bru= no

=C2=A0

thanks--shyam

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On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:32 AM, John G. Scudder <= ;jgs@juniper.net&g= t; wrote:

Hi All,

IDR working group adoption has been requested for draft-decraene-idr-next-h= op-capability-03. Please send your comments to the IDR mailing list be= fore June 2, 2017. Please remember that we need affirmative support in orde= r to adopt the draft, so don't be shy.

draft datatracker page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-decraene-idr-next-hop-capa= bility/
slides from IETF-98: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/98/slides/slides-98-idr-08-bgp-n= ext-hop-dependent-capabilities-00.pdf

Since in part this draft specifies a replacement for the Entropy Label Capa= bility Attribute (ELCA) that was defined by the MPLS WG in RFC 6790 and dep= recated by RFC 7447, I have cc'd the MPLS WG mailing list. Since the pr= oposed new attribute is a generic container with the ELCA replacement just the first application, the current draft is= targeted to IDR and not MPLS (this was discussed during IETF-93).

Thanks,

--John
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Mon, 05 Jun 2017 14:44:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.195.194 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Jun 2017 14:44:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <149565660910.8641.739437988075507213.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 16:44:19 -0500 Message-ID: To: huubatwork@gmail.com Cc: The IESG , draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection@ietf.org, Eric Gray , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045da456c8d53d05513d67d7" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] Spencer Dawkins' Discuss on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2017 21:44:27 -0000 --f403045da456c8d53d05513d67d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, Huub, On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Huub van Helvoort wrote: > Hello Spencer, > > I am back from our holiday. > As promised I will now answer the remaining comments > in-line [Huub] > Thanks - and all your proposed responses in this e-mail seem good to me. Spencer > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> DISCUSS: >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ---8<--- snipped (see my previous response) > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> COMMENT: >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> ---------- all the other questions >> >> In this text, >> >> When the service LSP passes through the interconnected rings, the >> direction of the working ring tunnels used on both rings SHOULD be >> the same. For example, if the service LSP uses the clockwise >> working >> ring tunnel on Ring1, when the service LSP leaves Ring1 and enters >> Ring2, the working ring tunnel used on Ring2 SHOULD also follow the >> clockwise direction. >> >> I'm not understanding why this is a SHOULD, and not a MUST. If the >> direction of the working ring tunnels used on both rings is not the same, >> does this still work? >> > > [Huub] it will still work. > The SHOULD is in particular useful in case of dual-node interconnected > rings. It ensures that the traffic passes only one of the two > interconnecting > nodes, and does not pass the link between the two interconnecting nodes. > The traffic will then only be switched to the protection path if the > interconnecting node fails which is in working path. > > If it still works, why does this matter? But, either way, you might >> usefully say something about why this isn't always the right thing to do, >> even if you just give one example. The point of SHOULD is that >> implementers make their own informed decisions, so providing information >> that will inform those decisions seems important. >> > > [Huub] OK, point taken. > > I wanted to call out >> >> Ring switches MUST be preempted by higher priority RPS requests. >> For >> example, consider a protection switch that is active due to a manual >> switch request on the given link, and another protection switch is >> required due to a failure on another link. Then an RPS request MUST >> be generated, the former protection switch MUST be dropped, and the >> latter protection switch established. >> >> MSRP mechanism SHOULD support multiple protection switches in the >> ring, resulting in the ring being segmented into two or more >> separate >> segments. This may happen when several RPS requests of the same >> priority exist in the ring due to multiple failures or external >> switch commands. >> >> as really good examples of the kind of text I think would help the places >> in this document ("For example", "This may happen when") where no >> examples are given. Thanks for providing those examples! >> > > [Huub] thank you for your advise. > > Ouch. Do I understand from >> >> o Protection Switching Mode (M): This 2-bit field indicates the >> protection switching mode used by the sending node of the RPS >> message. This can be used to check that the ring nodes on the >> same ring use the same protection switching mechanism. The >> defined values of the M field are listed as below: >> >> +------------------+-----------------------------+ >> | Bits (MSB-LSB) | Protecton Switching Mode | >> +------------------+-----------------------------+ >> | 0 0 | Reserved | >> | 0 1 | Wrapping | >> | 1 0 | Short Wrapping | >> | 1 1 | Steering | >> +------------------+-----------------------------+ >> >> that you already have three protection mechanisms, and have only one >> possible codepoint to allocate for any future optimizations? Assuming >> that "0 0" can be unReserved ... >> > > [Huub] I hope the explanations I provided for the application of > wrapping/short-wrapping/steering show that these are the only > three possible mechanisms. > > Could you clarify what "anyway" means in this text? >> >> When multiple MS RPS requests exist at the same time addressing >> different links and there is no higher priority request on the ring, >> no switch SHOULD be executed and existing switches MUST be dropped. >> The nodes MUST signal, anyway, the MS RPS request code. >> > > [Huub] good point. To avoid confusion it would be better to > replace the last sentence by: > "The node still SHOULD signal the relevant RPS request". > > I'm seeing that the commands like LP described in section 5.2.1.1 are >> used in the document before these (I'm serious) helpful and clear >> explanations appear. If it's possible to move section 5.2.1.1 up in the >> document, that would be great, but if it isn't possible, a forward >> pointer would be helpful to readers who don't already know what the >> command abbreviations mean. >> > > [Huub] good point, we will take this into account when we make > the revision of the draft. > > I'm really confused by this SHOULD: >> >> The PSC protocol [RFC6378] is designed for point-to-point LSPs, on >> which the protection switching can only be performed on one or both >> of the end points of the LSP. The RPS protocol is designed for ring >> tunnels, which consist of multiple ring nodes, and the failure could >> happen on any segment of the ring, thus RPS SHOULD be capable of >> identifying and handling the different failures on the ring, and >> coordinating the protection switching behavior of all the nodes on >> the ring. >> >> I suspect that's because it's not a 2119 SHOULD, but if people think it >> is, I wouldn't mind understanding why. >> > > [Huub] you are right that is not a 2119 SHOULD, > It would be better to replace "SHOULD be" by "is". > (the protocol has been implemented and the capability has been tested > successfully) > > Section 5.3, "RPS and PSC Comparison on Ring Topology" is really helpful, >> but it appears 43 pages in. Given that I'd expect people to be asking why >> they should implement a new protection switching protocol when they've >> already implemented PSC, I'd think this would be much more useful, early >> in the document. >> > > [Huub] we can move the text up in the draft. > > I'm somewhat confused about the code point allocation strategy in this >> text: >> >> The RPS Request Field is 8 bits, the allocated values are as >> follows: >> >> Value Description Reference >> ------- --------------------------- --------------- >> 0 No Request (NR) this document >> 1 Reverse Request (RR) this document >> 2 unassigned >> 3 Exercise (EXER) this document >> 4 unassigned >> 5 Wait-To-Restore (WTR) this document >> 6 Manual Switch (MS) this document >> 7-10 unassigned >> 11 Signal Fail (SF) this document >> 12 unassigned >> 13 Forced Switch (FS) this document >> 14 unassigned >> 15 Lockout of Protection (LP) this document >> 16-254 unassigned >> 255 Reserved >> >> My first question is, why the highest priority RPS value is 15, given >> that the field is 8 bits wide. >> > > [Huub] the four LSB of the request field are sufficient for the > required values. (in PSC and other technologies also four bits > are used for the request coding). > > If anyone ever needs to add a code point >> higher than the highest priority code point, will that work well? >> > > [Huub] that will never be necessary. LP means protection is disabled. > > I can >> imagine code that says "if operation_priority is greater than >> highest_priority, it's an error", for example. >> > > [Huub] indeed, this will be reported as FOP (failure of protocol). > > Best regards, Huub. > > > > -- > ================================================================ > Always remember that you are unique...just like everyone else... > > --f403045da456c8d53d05513d67d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, Huub,

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Huub van Helvoort <huubatwork@= gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Sp= encer,

I am back from our holiday.
As promised I will now answer the remaining comments
in-line [Huub]

Thanks - and all your pr= oposed responses in this e-mail seem good to me.

S= pencer
=C2=A0

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---------- all the other questions

In this text,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 When the service LSP passes through the interconnected rings,= the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 direction of the working ring tunnels used on both rings SHOU= LD be
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the same.=C2=A0 For example, if the service LSP uses the cloc= kwise
working
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ring tunnel on Ring1, when the service LSP leaves Ring1 and e= nters
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ring2, the working ring tunnel used on Ring2 SHOULD also foll= ow the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 clockwise direction.

I'm not understanding why this is a SHOULD, and not a MUST. If the
direction of the working ring tunnels used on both rings is not the same, does this still work?

 [Huub] it will still work.
The SHOULD is in particular useful in case of=C2=A0 dual-node interconnecte= d
rings. It ensures that the traffic passes only one of the two interconnecti= ng
nodes, and does not pass the link between the two interconnecting nodes. The traffic will then only be switched to the protection path if the
interconnecting node fails which is in working path.

If it still works, why does this matter? But, either way, you might
usefully say something about why this isn't always the right thing to d= o,
even if you just give one example. The point of SHOULD is that
implementers make their own informed decisions, so providing information that will inform those decisions seems important.

 [Huub] OK, point taken.

I wanted to call out

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ring switches MUST be preempted by higher priority RPS reques= ts.
For
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 example, consider a protection switch that is active due to a= manual
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 switch request on the given link, and another protection swit= ch is
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 required due to a failure on another link.=C2=A0 Then an RPS = request MUST
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 be generated, the former protection switch MUST be dropped, a= nd the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 latter protection switch established.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 MSRP mechanism SHOULD support multiple protection switches in= the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ring, resulting in the ring being segmented into two or more<= br> separate
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 segments.=C2=A0 This may happen when several RPS requests of = the same
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 priority exist in the ring due to multiple failures or extern= al
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 switch commands.

as really good examples of the kind of text I think would help the places in this document ("For example", "This may happen when"= ) where no
examples are given. Thanks for providing those examples!

 [Huub] thank you for your advise.

Ouch. Do I understand from

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 Protection Switching Mode (M): This 2-bit field indic= ates the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0protection switching mode used by the sending no= de of the RPS
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0message.=C2=A0 This can be used to check that th= e ring nodes on the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0same ring use the same protection switching mech= anism.=C2=A0 The
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0defined values of the M field are listed as belo= w:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 +------------------+------= -----------------------+
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 Bits (MSB-LSB)=C2= =A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0Protecton Switching Mode=C2=A0 |
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 +------------------+------= -----------------------+
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A00 0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Reserv= ed=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A00 1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Wrappi= ng=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A01 0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Short Wrappin= g=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A01 1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Steeri= ng=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 +------------------+------= -----------------------+

that you already have three protection mechanisms, and have only one
possible codepoint to allocate for any future optimizations? Assuming
that "0 0" can be unReserved ...

 [Huub] I hope the explanations I provided for the application of
wrapping/short-wrapping/steering show that these are the only
three possible mechanisms.

Could you clarify what "anyway" means in this text?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 When multiple MS RPS requests exist at the same time addressi= ng
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 different links and there is no higher priority request on th= e ring,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 no switch SHOULD be executed and existing switches MUST be dr= opped.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The nodes MUST signal, anyway, the MS RPS request code.

 [Huub] good point. To avoid confusion it would be better to
replace the last sentence by:
"The node still SHOULD signal the relevant RPS request".

I'm seeing that the commands like LP described in section 5.2.1.1=C2=A0= are
used in the document before these (I'm serious) helpful and clear
explanations appear. If it's possible to move section 5.2.1.1 up in the=
document, that would be great, but if it isn't possible, a forward
pointer would be helpful to readers who don't already know what the
command abbreviations mean.

 [Huub] good point, we will take this into account when we make
the revision of the draft.

I'm really confused by this SHOULD:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The PSC protocol [RFC6378] is designed for point-to-point LSP= s, on
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 which the protection switching can only be performed on one o= r both
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 of the end points of the LSP.=C2=A0 The RPS protocol is desig= ned for ring
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 tunnels, which consist of multiple ring nodes, and the failur= e could
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 happen on any segment of the ring, thus RPS SHOULD be capable= of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 identifying and handling the different failures on the ring, = and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 coordinating the protection switching behavior of all the nod= es on
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the ring.

I suspect that's because it's not a 2119 SHOULD, but if people thin= k it
is, I wouldn't mind understanding why.

 [Huub] you are right that is not a 2119 SHOULD,
It would be better to replace "SHOULD be" by "is".
(the protocol has been implemented and the capability has been tested
successfully)

Section 5.3, "RPS and PSC Comparison on Ring Topology" is really = helpful,
but it appears 43 pages in. Given that I'd expect people to be asking w= hy
they should implement a new protection switching protocol when they've<= br> already implemented PSC, I'd think this would be much more useful, earl= y
in the document.

 [Huub] we can move the text up in the draft.

I'm somewhat confused about the code point allocation strategy in this<= br> text:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The RPS Request Field is 8 bits, the allocated values are as<= br> follows:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Value=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Description=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Reference
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-------=C2=A0 --------------------------- ------= ---------
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0No Request (NR)=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0this document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Reverse Request (RR= )=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 this document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0unassigned
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Exercise (EXER)=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0this document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 4=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0unassigned
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 5=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Wait-To-Restore (WT= R)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0this document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 6=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Manual Switch (MS)= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 this document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A07-10=C2=A0 =C2=A0unassigned
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A011=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Signal Fail (SF)=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 this document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A012=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0unassigned
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A013=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Forced Switch (FS)= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 this document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A014=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0unassigned
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A015=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Lockout of Protecti= on (LP)=C2=A0 this document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A016-254=C2=A0 =C2=A0unassigned
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0255=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Reserved

My first question is, why the highest priority RPS value is 15, given
that the field is 8 bits wide.

 [Huub] the four LSB of the request field are sufficient for the
required values. (in PSC and other technologies also four bits
are used for the request coding).

If anyone ever needs to add a code point
higher than the highest priority code point, will that work well?

 [Huub] that will never be necessary. LP means protection is disabled.

=C2=A0 I can
imagine code that says "if operation_priority is greater than
highest_priority, it's an error", for example.

 [Huub] indeed, this will be reported as FOP (failure of protocol).

Best regards, Huub.



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Dear Authors, et.al,
I= 9;ve got a question, or several of them, about data models of MPLS label an= d MPLS label stack element (LSE). I ahve not followed the discussions and a= pologize if these already were considered, discussed.
In the Rout= ing Types document I've found that only MPLS label being modeled but no= t the MPLS LSE. As result, models that use rt-types:mpls-label, e.g. YANG D= Ata Model for MPLS Static LSPs, defines outgoing labels not as array of LSE= s but as array (leaf-list) of MPLS labels. In the latter document I don'= ;t see how TTL and Traffic Class (TC) are presented for each of labels in t= he array. Hence my questions:
  • should there be data model = of MPLS LSE in rt-types (it does have TTL and TC but separately);
  • s= hould data model of Static MPLS LSP use MPLS LSE model rather than model of= only 20 bit-long label.
Appreciate you comments.
=

Regards,
Greg
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2017 17:43:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.52.225 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Jun 2017 17:43:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Greg Mirsky Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 17:43:39 -0700 Message-ID: To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" Cc: "draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113d66b2296c4005513fe9ca" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] MPLS label and LSE data models X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 00:43:42 -0000 --001a113d66b2296c4005513fe9ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Acee, I think rather of the contrary, Static MPLS LSP must include TC and TTL. And Bottom-of-the-stack flag as well (I don't see it in grouping mpls-label-stack of the ietf-routing-types). Regards, Greg On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Greg, et al, > > From: Greg Mirsky > Date: Monday, June 5, 2017 at 6:28 PM > To: "draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org" types@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org" < > draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org> > Cc: Routing WG , "mpls@ietf.org" > Subject: MPLS label and LSE data models > Resent-From: > Resent-To: Yingzhen Qu , , > Acee Lindem , Christian Hopps , < > lberger@labn.net> > Resent-Date: Monday, June 5, 2017 at 6:28 PM > > Dear Authors, et.al, > I've got a question, or several of them, about data models of MPLS label > and MPLS label stack element (LSE). I ahve not followed the discussions a= nd > apologize if these already were considered, discussed. > In the Routing Types document I've found that only MPLS label being > modeled but not the MPLS LSE. As result, models that use > rt-types:mpls-label, e.g. YANG DAta Model for MPLS Static LSPs, defines > outgoing labels not as array of LSEs but as array (leaf-list) of MPLS > labels. In the latter document I don't see how TTL and Traffic Class (TC) > are presented for each of labels in the array. Hence my questions: > > - should there be data model of MPLS LSE in rt-types (it does have TTL > and TC but separately); > > > - should data model of Static MPLS LSP use MPLS LSE model rather than > model of only 20 bit-long label. > > Where else so you see a requirement for a label stack with entries that > don=E2=80=99t contain TC and TTL? This seems specific to static provision= ing of > static LSPs rather than a general requirement for ietf-routing-types. > > Thanks, > Acee > > > Appreciate you comments. > > Regards, > Greg > > --001a113d66b2296c4005513fe9ca Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Acee,
I think rather of the contrary, Static MPLS L= SP must include TC and TTL. And Bottom-of-the-stack flag as well (I don'= ;t see it in grouping=C2=A0mpls-label-stack of the ietf-routing-types).

Regards,
Greg

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 = at 4:55 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:
Greg, et al,=C2=A0

From: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>=
Date: Monday, June 5, 2017 at 6:28 = PM
To: "draft-ietf-rtgwg-routin= g-types@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@i= etf.org>, "draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org>
Cc: Routing WG <rtgwg@ietf.org>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>
Subject: MPLS label and LSE data mo= dels
Resent-From: <alias-bounces@ietf.org> Resent-To: Yingzhen Qu <yingzhen.qu@huawei.com= >, <xuf= eng_liu@jabil.com>, Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>, Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org>, <lberger@labn.net>
Resent-Date: Monday, June 5, 2017 a= t 6:28 PM

Dear Authors, e= t.al,
I've got a question, or several of them, about data models of MPLS= label and MPLS label stack element (LSE). I ahve not followed the discussi= ons and apologize if these already were considered, discussed.
In the Routing Types document I've found that only MPLS label bein= g modeled but not the MPLS LSE. As result, models that use rt-types:mpls-la= bel, e.g. YANG DAta Model for MPLS Static LSPs, defines outgoing labels not= as array of LSEs but as array (leaf-list) of MPLS labels. In the latter document I don't see how TTL and Traffic= Class (TC) are presented for each of labels in the array. Hence my questio= ns:
  • should there be data model of MPLS LSE in rt-types (it does have TTL an= d TC but separately);
  • should data model of Static MPLS LSP use MPLS LSE model rather than mod= el of only 20 bit-long label.
Where else so you see =C2=A0a requirement for a label stack wit= h entries that don=E2=80=99t contain TC and TTL? This seems specific to sta= tic provisioning of static LSPs rather than a general requirement for ietf-= routing-types.=C2=A0

Thanks,
Acee


Appreciate you comments.

Regards,
Greg

--001a113d66b2296c4005513fe9ca-- From nobody Tue Jun 6 02:46:42 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2441129BA2; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 02:46:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0_vdz4k3db-p; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 02:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilfert.gredler.at (gilfert.gredler.at [87.106.222.165]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFBB4129B9E; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 02:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hannes-mba.local (188-23-180-232.adsl.highway.telekom.at [::ffff:188.23.180.232]) (AUTH: PLAIN hannes, SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,128bits,AES128-SHA) by gilfert.gredler.at with ESMTPSA; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 11:46:21 +0200 id 00000000032DC2EB.00000000593679EF.000042AE To: Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" Cc: "draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "spring@ietf.org" References: <14c7b495-b3ce-8f81-d7ef-7abc33424acb@pi.nu> From: Hannes Gredler Message-ID: <05a33fce-37e6-2fb2-a290-225c7b61d981@gredler.at> Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 11:46:21 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14c7b495-b3ce-8f81-d7ef-7abc33424acb@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 09:46:33 -0000 hi loa, i am not aware of any IPR around draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping. /hannes On 6/5/17 09:39, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, authors, > > We have started to prepare the the draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping for > wglc, prior to the wglc we need to do an IPR poll. > > This mail starts this IPR poll. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping? 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Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] MPLS label and LSE data models X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 18:56:11 -0000 --001a114055529c4bd605514f2b8a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Xufeng, thank you for helping me with your insight. I have couple follow-up questions: - yes, grouping mpls-label-stack covers LSE though I cannot see why it needs id, sequence identifier. I'd expect the label stack already be properly ordered; - if we agree that the mpls-label-stack is ordered list, then figuring out which LSE should have BoS set is indeed benign and may not require t= o be explicit; - as for Static MPLS LSP I propose: - no need to have outgoing_label and outgoing_labels as the former is special case of the latter; - consider whether to use rt-type:mpls-label-stack rather than rt-type:mpls-label. It gets tricky on transit nodes but we, it seems to me, need operations on TTL and TC being explicit on ingress. Regards, Greg On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Xufeng Liu wrote: > Hi Greg, > > > > 1. As you mentioned, grouping mpls-label-stack is defined in > routing-types, so MPLS LSE is covered, right? > 2. Bottom-of-the-stack flag should not be needed in the model, > because the label stack is a list with sequence ID=E2=80=99s, which te= ll us the > beginning and the end of the stack. > 3. The discussion on static MPLS LSP has started, but not converged > yet. There are still open issues w.r.t. how to model the label stack a= nd > stack operations. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Do you have a > proposal? > > Thanks, > > - Xufeng > > > > *From:* Greg Mirsky [mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, June 5, 2017 8:44 PM > *To:* Acee Lindem (acee) > *Cc:* draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org; > draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org; rtgwg@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: MPLS label and LSE data models > > > > Hi Acee, > > I think rather of the contrary, Static MPLS LSP must include TC and TTL. > And Bottom-of-the-stack flag as well (I don't see it in grouping mpls-lab= el-stack > of the ietf-routing-types). > > > > Regards, > > Greg > > > > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote= : > > Greg, et al, > > > > *From: *Greg Mirsky > *Date: *Monday, June 5, 2017 at 6:28 PM > *To: *"draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org" types@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org" < > draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org> > *Cc: *Routing WG , "mpls@ietf.org" > *Subject: *MPLS label and LSE data models > *Resent-From: * > *Resent-To: *Yingzhen Qu , = , > Acee Lindem , Christian Hopps , < > lberger@labn.net> > *Resent-Date: *Monday, June 5, 2017 at 6:28 PM > > > > Dear Authors, et.al, > > I've got a question, or several of them, about data models of MPLS label > and MPLS label stack element (LSE). I ahve not followed the discussions a= nd > apologize if these already were considered, discussed. > > In the Routing Types document I've found that only MPLS label being > modeled but not the MPLS LSE. As result, models that use > rt-types:mpls-label, e.g. YANG DAta Model for MPLS Static LSPs, defines > outgoing labels not as array of LSEs but as array (leaf-list) of MPLS > labels. In the latter document I don't see how TTL and Traffic Class (TC) > are presented for each of labels in the array. Hence my questions: > > - should there be data model of MPLS LSE in rt-types (it does have TTL > and TC but separately); > > > - should data model of Static MPLS LSP use MPLS LSE model rather than > model of only 20 bit-long label. > > Where else so you see a requirement for a label stack with entries that > don=E2=80=99t contain TC and TTL? This seems specific to static provision= ing of > static LSPs rather than a general requirement for ietf-routing-types. > > > > Thanks, > > Acee > > > > > > Appreciate you comments. > > > > Regards, > > Greg > > > --001a114055529c4bd605514f2b8a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Xufeng,
thank you for helping me with your insight.= I have couple follow-up questions:
  • yes, grouping mpls-la= bel-stack covers LSE though I cannot see why it needs id, sequence identifi= er. I'd expect the label stack already be properly ordered;
  • if = we agree that the mpls-label-stack is ordered list, then figuring out which= LSE should have BoS set is indeed benign and may not require to be explici= t;
  • as for Static MPLS LSP I propose:
    • no need to have ou= tgoing_label and outgoing_labels as the former is special case of the latte= r;
    • consider whether to use rt-type:mpls-label-stack rather than rt-= type:mpls-label. It gets tricky on transit nodes but we, it seems to me, ne= ed operations on TTL and TC being explicit on ingress.
R= egards,
Greg

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Xufeng Liu <Xufeng_Liu= @jabil.com> wrote:

Hi Greg,

=C2=A0

  1. As you mentioned, grouping mpls-label-stack is defined in routing-types, s= o MPLS LSE is covered, right?
  2. Bottom-of-the-stack flag should not be needed in th= e model,=C2=A0 because the label stack is a list with sequence ID=E2=80=99s= , which tell us the beginning and the end of the stack.
    3. <= li class=3D"m_19761024394473048MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0in">= The discussion on static MPLS LSP has started, but not converged yet. There= are still open issues w.r.t. how to model the label stack and stack operat= ions. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Do you have a proposal?

Thanks,

- Xufeng

=C2=A0

From: Greg Mirsky [mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 8:44 PM
To: Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org; draft-ietf-mp= ls-static-yang@ietf.org; rtgwg@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org
Subject: Re: MPLS label and LSE data models

=C2=A0

Hi Acee,

I think rather of the contrary, Static MPLS LSP must= include TC and TTL. And Bottom-of-the-stack flag as well (I don't see = it in grouping=C2=A0mpls-label= -stack of the ietf-routing-types).

=C2=A0

Regards= ,

Greg

=C2=A0

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) &= lt;acee@cisco.com&g= t; wrote:

Greg, e= t al,=C2=A0

= =C2=A0

From: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, June 5, 2017 at 6:28 PM
To: "draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org" &= lt;draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-= mpls-static-yang@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org>
Cc: Routing WG <rtgwg@ietf.org>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>
Subject: MPLS label and LSE data models
Resent-From: <alias-bounces@ietf.org>
Resent-To: Yingzhen Qu <yingzhen.qu@huawei.com>, <xufeng_liu@jabil.com>, Acee Li= ndem <acee@cisco.com= >, Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org>, <lberger@labn.net>
Resent-Date: Monday, June 5, 2017 at 6:28 PM

= =C2=A0

Dear Au= thors, et.al,

I'v= e got a question, or several of them, about data models of MPLS label and M= PLS label stack element (LSE). I ahve not followed the discussions and apol= ogize if these already were considered, discussed.

In the = Routing Types document I've found that only MPLS label being modeled bu= t not the MPLS LSE. As result, models that use rt-types:mpls-label, e.g. YA= NG DAta Model for MPLS Static LSPs, defines outgoing labels not as array of LSEs but as array (leaf-list) of MPLS labe= ls. In the latter document I don't see how TTL and Traffic Class (TC) a= re presented for each of labels in the array. Hence my questions:=

  • should there be data model of MPLS LSE in = rt-types (it does have TTL and TC but separately);
  • should data model of Static MPLS LSP use M= PLS LSE model rather than model of only 20 bit-long label.

Where e= lse so you see =C2=A0a requirement for a label stack with entries that don= =E2=80=99t contain TC and TTL? This seems specific to static provisioning o= f static LSPs rather than a general requirement for ietf-routing-types.=C2=A0

= =C2=A0

Thanks,=

Acee=

= =C2=A0

= =C2=A0

Appreci= ate you comments.

= =C2=A0

Regards= ,

Greg=

=C2=A0


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The draft cleared WGLC in the BIER WG, so we need your review before WG LC support before proceeding. Thanks, Greg (BIER Chairs) On 05/05/2017 23:58, Greg Shepherd wrote: > > At WG meeting, IETF97 in Chicago, we decided to move forward to WGLC for > some of our docs. We learned that even once published the IESG has a > process to change the track of the RFC if the WG makes the case to move the > work from Informational to Standards track. The feedback from operators is > that RFC status was more important than track, and we won't be able to meet > our charter requirements to change track without deployment experience and > operator support. > > This email starts a two week timer for feedback on the draft: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bier-mpls-encapsulation/ > > Please read and respond do this thread. 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MPLS Chairs,

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On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 7:52= AM, Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> wrote:=
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Please could you clarify whether this document is being reviewed by the MPLS WG as part of this process?

Ye= s, MPLS WG review is our next step. The draft cleared WGLC in the BIER WG, = so we need your review before WG LC support before proceeding.
Thanks,
Greg
(BIER Chairs)

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On 05/05/2017 23:58= , Greg Shepherd wrote:
At WG meeting, IETF97 in Chicago, we decided to move forward to=C2=A0WGLC=C2=A0for some of our docs. We learned that even once published the IESG has a process to change the track of the RFC if the WG makes the case to move the work from Informational to Standards track. The feedback from operators is that RFC status was more important than track, and we won't be able to meet our charter requirements to change track without deployment experience and operator support.

This email starts a two week timer for feedback on the draft:

Please read and respond do this thread. EOWGLC - 20/5/17

Thank you,
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WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <99e4ec1e-c7d7-4fd4-3bfc-57c317dead58@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Closed: working group adoption poll on draft-bryant-mpls-rfc6374-sfl X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2017 09:44:06 -0000 Working Group, This adoption poll is closed and we have a new working group document. Can the authors please post draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sfl, without any changes (compared to the document we polled) than administrative. /Loa mpls wg co-chair On 2017-05-12 08:57, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, > > This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-bryant- > mpls-rfc6374-sfl-04 as a MPLS working group document. > > Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working > group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical > motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that > the document should not be adopted as a working group document. > > There two IPR disclosure against this document. > > > All the authors have stated on the MPLS wg mailing list that they are > unaware of any other IPRs that those that has been disclosed > > The working group adoption poll ends May 26, 2017. > > /Loa > mpls wg co-chair -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Thu Jun 8 14:47:32 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BD612952D; Thu, 8 Jun 2017 14:47:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Yoav Nir To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp.all@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.54.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149695844237.15142.17304755568511932911@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2017 14:47:22 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2017 21:47:22 -0000 Reviewer: Yoav Nir Review result: Has Nits I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area directors. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like any other last call comments. My biggest issue with this document is that it is hard to read. For example, the Introduction expands tLDP to "targeted LDP", and the Introduction begins with "LDP uses extended discovery...", but LDP itself is only expanded to "label distribution protocol" in the IANA considerations section. Similarly, the much-overloaded term "application" is never explained except that some applications are "targeted" and that "FEC 128 pseudowire" is an example of an application. I am sure this makes sense to participants of the MPLS working group, but to others this is much harder. There needs to be at least a reference to RFC 5036 where these terms are better explained (RFC 5036 is referenced but only as the document where tLDP adjacency is described). Nits: The Security Considerations section begins with "The Capability procedure described in this document will apply and does not introduce any change to LDP Security Considerations". The procedure will apply what? Or will apply to what? I think the words "will apply and" are superfluous. The second paragraph seems to be repeating part of the (rather extensive) security considerations of RFC 5036, but it does not say why (or even whether) that particular anti-DoS measure applies in particular to the mechanism described in this document. IOW why is this measure singled out from among the three pages of security considerations from RFC 5036? The third paragraph is not clear to me. It talks about two nodes not establishing a tLDP session if they don't support the same application. I don't know why that belongs in the security considerations section. The SHOULD NOT (establish a session) mandate definitely does not belong there. 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Sri On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 12:39 AM, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, authors, > > We have started to prepare the the draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping for > wglc, prior to the wglc we need to do an IPR poll. > > This mail starts this IPR poll. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > No IPR disclosures have been submitted directly on draft-ietf-mpls- > spring-lsp-ping or the individual document it replaced. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS WG mailing list.* The > document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been > received from each author and contributor. > > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > Since this document might be of interest for the SPRING wg, it has been > copied to the SPRING wg mailing list. > > /Loa > mpls wg co-chair > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com > Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu > Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > --001a1147c4eea02cb60551809184 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not aware of any IPR.

Sri

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017= at 12:39 AM, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
Working Group, authors,

We have started to prepare the the draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping for=
wglc, prior to the wglc we need to do an IPR poll.

This mail starts this IPR poll.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to
draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

No IPR disclosures have been submitted directly on draft-ietf-mpls-
spring-lsp-ping or the individual document it replaced.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS WG mailing list.* The
document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been
received from each author and contributor.

If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.

Since this document might be of interest for the SPRING wg, it has been
copied to the SPRING wg mailing list.

/Loa
mpls wg co-chair
--


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--001a1147c4eea02cb60551809184-- From nobody Fri Jun 9 04:28:34 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95E312956D; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 04:28:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7Qct4EiWIaQc; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 04:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ot0-x234.google.com (mail-ot0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5AB6124D68; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 04:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot0-x234.google.com with SMTP id i31so37346872ota.3; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 04:28:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Q/cagDqPadC4VjF/egK3rp4zQosrVSjoQRO+A8O6tRI=; b=RBahHt51tz/geACD79Kk8dvDrfyIO+cI2sparAOtTu6M2CAJGlg+tMQ0iHTy34BB8M Fi6pGAbQj+2kuQPxQuy7fB5s5JJCpAOZC2fZjXOY2S9Jabl/j5rWUMrfELbopaWAlbD1 PuVFy+iITmx7ecnnyX+hjXD9RUBjJ5kypYSasLd8HdrdTH8gdH0NmTBo/UTnW+zCS6+x FuOIr6iMPMQkjTPjFe+dGxz8U9UZgXSlsGS5WTXSlS4ZV7rv1Yu8RrZknNuvSgfdyfUM Qq/w9ZMQGMHci1kZe8iDF5iEw7ZJ9tdtwmVTYNu1C9KGYfHVXOtV3LipaqrQnselylfC kGlQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Q/cagDqPadC4VjF/egK3rp4zQosrVSjoQRO+A8O6tRI=; b=butIp0Npc0ALZeTkjRGd6n8jwFkaUKsQG7xHYaLtkyDpBHiik48pbJ9j+ey/4alHuI Z/VsAddOgnrSJa1PFdJStLjMHm5Xk6gzP/q/ZNK2x37L7i373CXQxkI1NeGzTJfEtM4C /yVuq0JejqAL3aPySdEG5UhcRLUgn5yYsakOypeBLDMxbF9OS9VzWH5S9yGe7xVRT9nf NHi2ZuItG/gdA1PEAkNT4Ap2SgRxIYsW+WLn+2si1lvCjqCcXIbyqWaMEFp/bfpl7+p9 Rib+2D6EqA/Vk5TtyBVRHUO0GE5fFeatMNGKQG8aRm42Qc+l9lCd+r0MuCCBx4MItnhS ukaA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOwzzokhidNVrdyDa64iiQE1pHXPhG+tW9WQZcoViOObsY/BUxQ/ IShAfxnP4K9PR1G/Z8uUDeOIAc26XaXlqFc= X-Received: by 10.157.56.56 with SMTP id i53mr22184520otc.206.1497007703393; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 04:28:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.43.79 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 04:28:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <14c7b495-b3ce-8f81-d7ef-7abc33424acb@pi.nu> References: <14c7b495-b3ce-8f81-d7ef-7abc33424acb@pi.nu> From: Nobo Akiya Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 20:28:23 +0900 Message-ID: To: Loa Andersson Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "spring@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a114178f6630c3a0551854466" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2017 11:28:26 -0000 --001a114178f6630c3a0551854466 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Loa, I am not aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping. Regards, Nobo On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, authors, > > We have started to prepare the the draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping for > wglc, prior to the wglc we need to do an IPR poll. > > This mail starts this IPR poll. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > No IPR disclosures have been submitted directly on draft-ietf-mpls- > spring-lsp-ping or the individual document it replaced. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS WG mailing list.* The > document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been > received from each author and contributor. > > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > Since this document might be of interest for the SPRING wg, it has been > copied to the SPRING wg mailing list. > > /Loa > mpls wg co-chair > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com > Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu > Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > --001a114178f6630c3a0551854466 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Loa,

I am not aware of any IPR that applies to=C2=A0draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping.

Regards,
Nobo

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017= at 4:39 PM, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
Working Group, authors,

We have started to prepare the the draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping for=
wglc, prior to the wglc we need to do an IPR poll.

This mail starts this IPR poll.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to
draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

No IPR disclosures have been submitted directly on draft-ietf-mpls-
spring-lsp-ping or the individual document it replaced.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS WG mailing list.* The
document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been
received from each author and contributor.

If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.

Since this document might be of interest for the SPRING wg, it has been
copied to the SPRING wg mailing list.

/Loa
mpls wg co-chair
--


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mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5821294B7; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 03:37:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.54.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149726385151.10266.9702966582872428721@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 03:37:31 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sfl-00.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:37:32 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : RFC6374 Synonymous Flow Labels Authors : Stewart Bryant Mach Chen Zhenbin Li George Swallow Siva Sivabalan Gregory Mirsky Giuseppe Fioccola Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sfl-00.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2017-06-12 Abstract: This document describes a method of making RFC6374 performance measurements on flows carried over an MPLS Label Switched path. This allows loss and delay measurements to be made on multi-point to point LSPs and allows the measurement of flows within an MPLS construct using RFC6374. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sfl/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sfl-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sfl-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jun 12 04:51:54 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03EE124234; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 04:51:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.54.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149726830568.10253.3114533864943866247@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 04:51:45 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection-06.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 11:51:46 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Shared-Ring protection (MSRP) mechanism for ring topology Authors : Weiqiang Cheng Lei Wang Han Li Huub van Helvoort Jie Dong Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection-06.txt Pages : 53 Date : 2017-06-12 Abstract: This document describes requirements, architecture and solutions for MPLS-TP Shared Ring Protection (MSRP) in a ring topology for point- to-point (P2P) services. The MSRP mechanism is described to meet the ring protection requirements as described in RFC 5654. This document defines the Ring Protection Switch (RPS) Protocol that is used to coordinate the protection behavior of the nodes on MPLS ring. 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Regards, Faisal -----Original Message----- From: spring [mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 3:39 AM To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: spring@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping@= ietf.org Subject: [spring] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping Working Group, authors, We have started to prepare the the draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping for wglc= , prior to the wglc we need to do an IPR poll. This mail starts this IPR poll. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). No IPR disclosures have been submitted directly on draft-ietf-mpls- spring-= lsp-ping or the individual document it replaced. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to thi= s email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. *Th= e response needs to be sent to the MPLS WG mailing list.* The document will= not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each= author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or con= tributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR t= hat has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. Since this document might be of interest for the SPRING wg, it has been cop= ied to the SPRING wg mailing list. /Loa mpls wg co-chair --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 _______________________________________________ spring mailing list spring@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring From nobody Mon Jun 12 22:28:36 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78D6129B41; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 22:28:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.202 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.202 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jqJgEgZ1iXt5; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 22:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53100129B40; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 22:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id C0200B80D27; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 22:28:23 -0700 (PDT) To: eric.gray@ericsson.com, erosen@cisco.com, arun@force10networks.com, rcallon@juniper.net X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, iesg@ietf.org, mpls@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20170613052823.C0200B80D27@rfc-editor.org> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 22:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] [Errata Verified] RFC3031 (5002) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 05:28:36 -0000 The following errata report has been verified for RFC3031, "Multiprotocol Label Switching Architecture". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5002 -------------------------------------- Status: Verified Type: Editorial Reported by: Eric Gray Date Reported: 2017-04-21 Verified by: RFC Editor Section: 3.8 Original Text ------------- Liberal label retention mode allows for quicker adaptation to routing changes, but conservative label retention mode though requires an LSR to maintain many fewer labels. Corrected Text -------------- Liberal label retention mode allows for quicker adaptation to routing changes, while conservative label retention mode requires an LSR to maintain many fewer labels. Notes ----- Grammar error in original text, which may make it harder for some to read and understand. Verifier Notes: (removed the spurious "though") -------------------------------------- RFC3031 (draft-ietf-mpls-arch-06) -------------------------------------- Title : Multiprotocol Label Switching Architecture Publication Date : January 2001 Author(s) : E. Rosen, A. Viswanathan, R. Callon Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Multiprotocol Label Switching Area : Routing Stream : IETF From nobody Tue Jun 13 01:58:46 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CDA12EBBB; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 01:58:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.32 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.32 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=telekom.de Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VXpLB_xKxbia; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 01:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout24.telekom.de (MAILOUT24.telekom.de [80.149.113.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EE0012EBC4; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 01:58:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telekom.de; i=@telekom.de; q=dns/txt; s=dtag1; t=1497344310; x=1528880310; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=wRcAJVQZQ/Q+HK9qL6q26/pSIb47dDrclWLDCRnjJ5E=; b=PPX5xfRnm/Upk1j3nqmSRGMBUVzttDSrOXxcH9Wds73lLDpYyT+PL0NU rsBgDY9sODNCNBu6td4Y/zxnC46VXHdQx0txW4zFuD8m4mRMF3zupRGVX H0VbVkU0/jgILnSKU+6n3GWAvpPR5mF6cWXL9n7sjY1IajGWeeA+rkwgN C9c9tF8PTF22nXPuKr4zZ+yS3LpOu4dD+pLWNzQ92vBajnqRrrz9Gj+O6 us1JWVe+nuOelaLOTnk1bEetq6JwSVhp4zyPX7q2tYsIhZ1Rue0aGtOuR 3YC/2eIoXIVl/NAwqB309NKOR5I1X2PSe3oLASDKu80XvymqQXQrO0Pho A==; Received: from q4de8psa04t.blf.telekom.de ([10.151.13.130]) by MAILOUT21.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 13 Jun 2017 10:58:27 +0200 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.39,337,1493676000"; d="scan'208,217";a="683028295" Received: from he105661.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.169.119.57]) by Q4DE8PSA04V.blf.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/AES256-SHA; 13 Jun 2017 10:58:26 +0200 Received: from HE105662.EMEA1.cds.t-internal.com (10.169.119.58) by HE105661.emea1.cds.t-internal.com (10.169.119.57) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1263.5; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 10:58:26 +0200 Received: from HE105662.EMEA1.cds.t-internal.com ([fe80::442c:834e:c489:d2c4]) by HE105662.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([fe80::442c:834e:c489:d2c4%26]) with mapi id 15.00.1263.000; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 10:58:26 +0200 From: To: CC: , , , , , Thread-Topic: Closed: 3rd WG Last Call for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed Thread-Index: AdLkIrVnbLu5SLBQQSCPrHzVDmz2iQ== Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:58:26 +0000 Message-ID: <4881841240784426b2d0c5f06eccc62e@HE105662.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.213.208.208] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_4881841240784426b2d0c5f06eccc62eHE105662emea1cdstintern_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Closed: 3rd WG Last Call for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:58:45 -0000 --_000_4881841240784426b2d0c5f06eccc62eHE105662emea1cdstintern_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear WG, This mail closes the 3rd WG Last Call for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed. As a result we still do not have consensus to request publication for this = document and there are a couple of issues which need to be addressed: - We have strong technical comments that need to be resolved, the wor= king group chairs would like to encourage the authors and Carlos to work to= gether to see if it possible to resolve the technical issues. From our unde= rstanding this work is already in progress. - Carlos has also pointed out a procedural issue, the document should= have been brought to the attention of the bfd WG. We'll make sure that thi= s happens if and when a version that resolve the technical issue mentioned = above is posted. The earlier IPR issues seems to be resolved. Best regards Nic --_000_4881841240784426b2d0c5f06eccc62eHE105662emea1cdstintern_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear WG,
 
This mail closes the 3rd WG Last Call for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed= .
 
As a result we still do not have consensus to request publication for = this document and there are a couple of issues which need to be addressed: =
 
  • We have strong technical comments that need to be resolved, the working= group chairs would like to encourage the authors and Carlos to work togeth= er to see if it possible to resolve the technical issues. From our understa= nding this work is already in progress.
  • Carlos has also pointed out a procedural issue, the document shoul= d have been brought to the attention of the bfd WG. We'll make sure that th= is happens if and when a version that resolve the technical issue mentioned= above is posted.
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The earlier IPR issues seems to be resolved.
 
Best regards
 
Nic
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Tue, 13 Jun 2017 11:00:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.54.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149737681495.7645.17175811083846358033@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 11:00:14 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-07.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 18:00:15 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) Directed Return Path Authors : Greg Mirsky Jeff Tantsura Ilya Varlashkin Mach(Guoyi) Chen Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-07.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2017-06-13 Abstract: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) is expected to be able to monitor wide variety of encapsulations of paths between systems. When a BFD session monitors an explicitly routed unidirectional path there may be a need to direct egress BFD peer to use a specific path for the reverse direction of the BFD session. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-07 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Jun 13 11:07:22 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054F2129451; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 11:07:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EjytYb-FgLUZ; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 11:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi0-x22d.google.com (mail-oi0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3783129427; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 11:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id s3so74356329oia.0; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 11:07:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=p+tpsKZ2lF+HpgchvN0M3QDqnXxnPVamTd9Lu+LJ/FA=; b=rodKmX9aZq+KSx28wbfaxz8LXVAvcNZtlT8PQ59E+aJ+1TNbuMZFxG69Sei1lA+pgx Cm0zypokTRhmRdIVfpkTWDBUFg88eOomy572MtxmWxFIFxcSWz4wT3W2yhxfIs9nyL/v BQyM9/SEiSJhX5SgjnKiDu4QfZv9LwJZ2VHmB8kZbLKDb+SWE9GEkVYD+mcWZScRfayp W75kZ7H/wtCP070U8riUiie8I5lVjorSFxEbJUDBPe6Yel7oLkv8eNQrnl/fh+ipYxq+ cX01qZI+WDXy9VJWAO73rlZTVM8gDxLG3w4ajCT0NlNpmyhtft6shAIFKWQvMcHmUK3u dNfA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=p+tpsKZ2lF+HpgchvN0M3QDqnXxnPVamTd9Lu+LJ/FA=; b=lnBCuy2+CuOGhoWdRNXWRf06fBO4eY7Fo9+FjGBzKqGTbIGQqcvtG7vhQs9aW4wMq1 NN/+KuKMkOEDPpz6anmV78yBlPMDJrhYFfTcnMS/YXXM0bP8bZlDmTQqmCNPqWsVmzgp TbTOGDZzpfb9mzWiS6672YEJO3wj0sZYhG/Gxbx1NLCXCKI4gK84eWDY+5nEgZvphaxF aC/ifg/sLfmIf1pdiuaS0KXy1uvRurqG8k+OuvT5a9lQJZkBLxNvkN1DIqWLxBZX7m+s iIu8aZLPUvW1IwqmRvpZ2CTPBqPpk6sb0Hu/WW9bwtD2zfoZGOkkPLsm6BcqnDJaIRS+ yNLg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOyic83LDRjTZHCkPshdRslfzKVCbufcOG5Eu91zortUvCBkBy9H IxTIxMy1zSeEOhl1fxHxyjsrbQLAbQ== X-Received: by 10.202.51.7 with SMTP id z7mr756072oiz.75.1497377237186; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 11:07:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.52.225 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 11:07:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4881841240784426b2d0c5f06eccc62e@HE105662.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: <4881841240784426b2d0c5f06eccc62e@HE105662.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> From: Greg Mirsky Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 11:07:16 -0700 Message-ID: To: "n.leymann@telekom.de" Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , mpls-chairs@ietf.org, Jeff Tantsura , iLya , Mach Chen , "cpignata@cisco.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113cd192513e3d0551db4ec1" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] Closed: 3rd WG Last Call for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 18:07:20 -0000 --001a113cd192513e3d0551db4ec1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Nick, authors greatly appreciate the consideration and comments this work received during the WG LC. Update to address technical and editorial comments just been posted as 07 version . We invite all who participated in the discussion to check the latest version and let us know if their comments have been addressed. It is unfortunate if BFD WG was not informed of the MPLS WG LC. Updates on this work had been presented and discussed at BFD WG meetings with the last presentation at IETF-92 . Regards, Greg On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 1:58 AM, wrote: > Dear WG, > > This mail closes the 3rd WG Last Call for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed. > > As a result we still do not have consensus to request publication for this > document and there are a couple of issues which need to be addressed: > > > - We have strong technical comments that need to be resolved, the > working group chairs would like to encourage the authors and Carlos to work > together to see if it possible to resolve the technical issues. From our > understanding this work is already in progress. > - Carlos has also pointed out a procedural issue, the document should > have been brought to the attention of the bfd WG. We'll make sure that this > happens if and when a version that resolve the technical issue mentioned > above is posted. > > > The earlier IPR issues seems to be resolved. > > Best regards > > Nic > > > > --001a113cd192513e3d0551db4ec1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Nick,
authors greatly appreciate the consideration = and comments this work received during the WG LC. Update to address technic= al and editorial comments just been posted as 07 version. We invite all= who participated in the discussion to check the latest version and let us = know if their comments have been addressed.
It is unfortunate if = BFD WG was not informed of the MPLS WG LC. Updates on this work had been pr= esented and discussed at BFD WG meetings with the last presentation at IETF-92.

Regards,
Greg

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 1:58 AM, <N.= Leymann@telekom.de> wrote:
Dear WG,
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This mail closes the 3rd WG Last Call for draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed= .
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As a result we still do not have consensus to request publication for = this document and there are a couple of issues which need to be addressed: =
=C2=A0
  • We have strong technical comments that need to be resolved, the working= group chairs would like to encourage the authors and Carlos to work togeth= er to see if it possible to resolve the technical issues. From our understa= nding this work is already in progress.
  • Carlos has also pointed out a procedural issue, the document shoul= d have been brought to the attention of the bfd WG. We'll make sure tha= t this happens if and when a version that resolve the technical issue menti= oned above is posted.
=C2= =A0
The earlier IPR issues seems to be resolved.
=C2=A0
Best regards
=C2=A0
Nic
=C2= =A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0

--001a113cd192513e3d0551db4ec1-- From nobody Thu Jun 15 08:29:09 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854FB1294F8; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 08:29:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.646 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.646 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX=2.845, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kVR5LW9MDSET; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 08:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hickoryhill-consulting.com (50-245-122-97-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.245.122.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C06DE127201; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 08:28:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=174.124.176.217; From: "Susan Hares" To: Cc: "'idr wg'" Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 11:23:15 -0400 Message-ID: <016e01d2e5eb$4fe48fa0$efadaee0$@ndzh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_016F_01D2E5C9.C8D33DC0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AdLl6z2HTUbeIzfZQbWOME4KNjnbuw== X-Authenticated-User: skh@ndzh.com Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Request for Feedback - on draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-05.txt (6/15 to 6/21). X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 15:29:01 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_016F_01D2E5C9.C8D33DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MPLS WG and chairs: The IDR WG has reached consensus on publication of draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-05.txt. In my duties as shepherd, I noticed that we had not cross-reviewed this with the MPLS WG. This email requests feedback from the MPLS working on draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-05.txt during the period 6/15 to 6/21. Thank you, Sue Hares ------=_NextPart_000_016F_01D2E5C9.C8D33DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

MPLS WG = and chairs:

 

The IDR WG has reached consensus on publication of = draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-05.txt.   In my duties as = shepherd, I noticed that we had not cross-reviewed this with the MPLS = WG.   This email requests feedback from the MPLS working on = draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-05.txt during the period 6/15 to = 6/21. 

 

Thank you,

Sue = Hares

------=_NextPart_000_016F_01D2E5C9.C8D33DC0-- From nobody Sun Jun 18 02:13:24 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476D6126D45; Sun, 18 Jun 2017 02:13:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind?= To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@ietf.org, loa@pi.nu, mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149777719528.10707.4778792159848725145.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 02:13:15 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind=27s_No_Objection_on_draft-i?= =?utf-8?q?etf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08=3A_=28with_COMMENT=29?= X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 09:13:15 -0000 Mirja Kühlewind has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- nits regarding use of normative language: 1) sec 2.2.: „Therefore, if the intersection of the sets of received and sent TA-Id is null, then LSR MUST send 'Session Rejected/Targeted Application Capability Mis- Match' Notification message to the initiating LSR and close the session.“ Probably no need to make this normative MUST again in the example text -> s/MUST send/sends/ 2) Similar the use of normative language in the use case section (5) does not seem to be appropriate, or at least not consistent. Maybe just convert all upper cases MAYs to lower case in that section. From nobody Sun Jun 18 13:58:23 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44606129401; Sun, 18 Jun 2017 13:58:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alexey Melnikov To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@ietf.org, loa@pi.nu, mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149781950127.10765.7110741007570619355.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 13:58:21 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Alexey Melnikov's No Record on draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 20:58:21 -0000 Alexey Melnikov has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08: No Record When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I have a small list of issues that I think you should look at: LSR -- needs expansion in the Abstract, as it is not an abbreviation recognized by RFC Editor. In 2.2 If the receiver LSR does not receive the TAC TLV in the Initialization message or it does not understand the TAC TLV, the TAC negotiation MUST be considered unsuccessful and the session establishment MUST proceed as per [RFC5036]. Firstly, you can't have requirements on any implementation that doesn't support this specification. Secondly, the last MUST is already the default. So I think use of RFC 2119 lange here is not appropriate, you should just use "is considered" and "proceeds". The following text: If it sets the session setup retry interval to maximum, the session MAY stay in a non-existent state. When this LSR detects a change in the responding LSR configuration or its own configuration pertaining to TAC TLV, it MUST clear the session setup back off delay associated with the session in order to re-attempt the session establishment. is repeated twice in the same section. What is "TAI"? In 5.2: the section is titled "Use Cases", so I didn't expect any normative RFC 2119 language in there. Some MAY seem not to be specifying implementation choices, so they should be "may". From nobody Mon Jun 19 15:19:47 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250B7129329; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:19:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ben Campbell To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@ietf.org, loa@pi.nu, mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149791077805.23795.18346431792837031128.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:19:38 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 22:19:38 -0000 Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This should be easy to fix, but needs to be fixed before the draft progresses: Section 7 establishes a new IANA registry under the Label Distribution Protocol (LDP) Parameters page. Unless I missed something (which happens) it doesn't specify the registration policy as required by BCP26. Please see RFC 5226 section 4.1 for details. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -General: When you use the word "application", is a person skilled in MPLS automatically going to think in terms of the sort of "applications" listed here? If not, it would be good to have a paragraph early in the introduction that describes what you mean by "applications". As an application-layer person, I tend to think of it in terms of application-layer applications. Am I correct to assume that it would not make sense to register, for example, HTTP in the the LDP Targeted Application Identifier registry? - 1.1: I noticed a number instances of at least "may" in lower case. If your intent is that lower case words not be treated as keywords, please consider using the new boilerplate from RFC 8174 Nits: -1, first paragraph: "LDP uses extended discovery mechanism..." Missing article before "discovery". -2.2, paragraph 4 and 5, "... a maximum value, as 0xffff.": should "as" be "such as"? -2.2, paragraphs 6 and 7: the "it" in the opening sentence of each paragraph has an unclear antecedent. From nobody Mon Jun 19 21:21:28 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1EE12704B; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 21:21:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z2E2OqsiYEIL; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 21:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi0-x22c.google.com (mail-oi0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 446591243F3; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 21:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id b6so65676229oia.1; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 21:21:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=vgCOqoKjgcr2ZWf3QemD4Hu0jZVB56cJTsP9ROjCEDg=; b=Est6awMw/2fsKHduDx4ELLb9T2bz++wfhw/W2B6VRN8uVtphEF/yxt2hHRBeGEFkUT gRtN2tgJ7ltBYUb1odvq/hq3vdh3ByhBdDtXCV7CVIIHxAGT3rAf3reFNk2xX7NbyLZy 0hZ1e1UR6Vu/TacCE2ESfevUEj/UnijybrSVqssndF/9pC5+uXY+ibfDqbADbTGUNQ0V mKjXGZEsk7ujby276MTlQmjyAu42t3pcU8gpPW+sOR4Z7SGNUtIwehDQ/whzW7PMZJcg im6WGdXTpMPGtAOV/2isrHDIXwQkcZ/SY2JfHMC/HyceX3VGkRIK74KmHOl79Fc3Lp/f P1aQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=vgCOqoKjgcr2ZWf3QemD4Hu0jZVB56cJTsP9ROjCEDg=; b=Ah4fHjHtiHvvyR9mDc8SjqxcwWNH1CVFStGRlDtYkJ9G1ivZ30HyNBLFKoKcVFAHRI PdTcJA93liwlEXDeYHXJBvtc/0d+FvIoyimw4PImHjILFeh/C3l4YyyCEWOgL2M+xItS 472+HX3iUEklDeY3Bbv120clqeNM071hypOHUmjZWvclkokUYbC0HXtjTMby8yBigYby WnpG7fPidf3GNdOlDpAwkUeuZ2uYWas7h5G4Msh0lZoV96CM0x+dGw9AueekpnoOftmh c37FB+6B/AQP8iwIjdqzzGVax52OMxbqOTXoC/QkuYVZmqa/0VnRg9EVxYNhd5N4s/2J pTcQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOye76PSEXfR5Wr5rk82rq8eaU4va29QXWqUL5ciw6T4dQNzllo0 9P4Ue4SaXiNMl6QTG7sMz1Suhkj9WQ== X-Received: by 10.202.87.87 with SMTP id l84mr13613621oib.214.1497932483350; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 21:21:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.52.171 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 21:21:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <149791573372.23708.11815253927158130940.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <149791573372.23708.11815253927158130940.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Greg Mirsky Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 23:21:22 -0500 Message-ID: To: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" , spring@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113d2ecc916e5405525c95be" Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-mirsky-bfd-mpls-demand-00.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 04:21:27 -0000 --001a113d2ecc916e5405525c95be Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear All, I think this new draft may be of interest. 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--001a113d2ecc916e5405525c95be-- From nobody Tue Jun 20 13:41:33 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1301294B8; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:41:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.903 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.903 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EsthyYq654J1; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AF3131633; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DFB831E37F; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 16:50:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 16:50:21 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: Xufeng Liu Cc: Greg Mirsky , "draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" Message-ID: <20170620205021.GG2289@pfrc.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] MPLS label and LSE data models X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 20:41:32 -0000 Xufeng, On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 07:33:05PM +0000, Xufeng Liu wrote: > From: Greg Mirsky [mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com] > * yes, grouping mpls-label-stack covers LSE though I cannot see why it needs id, sequence identifier. I'd expect the label stack already be properly ordered; > [Xufeng] There are two ways to achieve the ordering: 1) Explicit sequence id, 2) Implicit order of the list items. Personally I feel that the explicit way is more clear and easier to use, but have no strong objection to the implicit way. While I found the semantics of mpls-label-stack[id] to be clear, it does have the peculiar property that the ids present in the list may have gaps. E.g. 10,20,30 instead of 1,2,3. And also the ambiguity of whether people's implementations starting counting at 0 or 1. I'm not conversant with common Yang tool suites, but it seems if the ordered-by user rather than the default of system, then the tooling might present the bottom of stack entry as the first or last node of the list rather than requiring the consumer to have to run a sort of the nodes based on the id number and then select the first node. -- Jeff From nobody Tue Jun 20 14:12:43 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91492129486; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:12:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9W1b5VcbxFEC; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-x22f.google.com (mail-yw0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38037129417; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id l75so57387913ywc.3; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:12:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=+cTIZcDAad/2JAwbhNSeghh0S+uOFJyW0ttfgAe5jB8=; b=dfGSHDF/rdyq/d3XkIVHVCXur698HM9E/A2Cu/jqOdfgf7ocFfqO0+bRzGuNYqiXOf 4Dg1xsF0u/PEp9+v2gZiPDll/B8U0lq0E2t8uCWR9B3KzGxFyhINQ0VzDFCnI/JiLpuD zm1IIpioA5rmRL2TVopC9a3dU7bOZQW6/16CiPChSSUVIBGvERIsQDD0xnDiFqnMyVNP GEnozvSVzzkxzmXH9wRbzU00sCMoB13x8j0mFiWnrQGqXhWXfwa6thJHQtLVFu2MJpT1 FC9MP8mNIJgrNLb8lwghLUpMobe//iNdDJVt69MXgzOBHCwL0xMoqcqyO2EfP4oCTfE3 KCpw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=+cTIZcDAad/2JAwbhNSeghh0S+uOFJyW0ttfgAe5jB8=; b=ajIzsZpg9S0rc34Z3sNqVyleyVbhoMMLA+doXroWmOuklsIGxeUpkSGNsjoN4SEXYt TGsKDEl1K6zeLcAy34n4QcKQ4KS/l7KsUZex9AS+ZizoorLJCQhwuBfrCHVarkyMiNJI ZAFXJ8vXGzX5TpNgdZn8uNEdTnjOjcmBVCVkyxW+rvSaUN3qDp5dquvneCoPfdubQEQ1 jtWEs45jgsQ9mwThHXgAfrL09ZLZtlIeT9Y36UmUTnUlL2izFfopwQvqKgd50Xc3HZig OKdGagoycZVRNWJr/boawKGmGB7lFkSerALBcberm1TAAbXJTtf8o66Gefls7rVXmm19 b28w== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOydqoIyYLWsqBRs9WYHirEmEmfxI2jH3fqwCq/Fla9M9zgJ75QP qTXmlH0QvK2xSrvuraxNHICOij8hHA== X-Received: by 10.129.130.71 with SMTP id s68mr25497403ywf.42.1497993150175; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:12:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.216.85 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:12:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <149565660910.8641.739437988075507213.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <149565660910.8641.739437988075507213.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 16:12:29 -0500 Message-ID: To: The IESG Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection@ietf.org, "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , Eric Gray Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c07c8a497b85a05526ab584" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] Spencer Dawkins' Discuss on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:12:35 -0000 --94eb2c07c8a497b85a05526ab584 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Jimmy has asked whether -06 works for me. The easiest way for me to reply to that, is from my original ballot, but I'm looking at Huub's e-mails in this thread. So, see below. On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Spencer Dawkins < spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared-ring-protection-05: Discuss > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-tp-shared- > ring-protection/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > DISCUSS: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I want to thank the authors for a very readable draft. It was a pleasure > to review, and that's a high bar for the subject. > > I have loads of questions, but my first set of questions is an expansion > of Alvaro's comment that I think rises to the level of a Discuss. Please > note that I'm asking questions, not proposing text changes, so I really > do want to discuss it. > > ---------- my first set of questions > > In this text, > > Three typical ring protection mechanisms are described in this > section: wrapping, short wrapping and steering. All nodes on the > same ring MUST use the same protection mechanism. > > I would like to understand what happens if they aren't - and I'm asking, > mostly as a way of encouraging guidance for operators in debugging cases > where they're not all using the same mechanism. I'm not asking for a full > mesh of possible misconfigurations, only for a sentence or two ("If they > aren't all using the same protection mechanism, the following things may > happen"). > Huub's additional text worked for me here. > More broadly, I'd like to understand why wrapping and short wrapping are > both defined. It seems like the only functional difference is that short > wrapping doesn't give you as much latency. Is that right? > > 24 pages in, I see this: > > o In rings utilizing the wrapping protection, each node detects the > failure or receives the RPS request as the destination node MUST > perform the switch from/to the working ring tunnels to/from the > protection ring tunnels if it has no higher priority active RPS > request. > > o In rings utilizing the short wrapping protection, each node > detects the failure or receives the RPS request as the > destination > node MUST perform the switch only from the working ring tunnels > to > the protection ring tunnels. > > so I'm pretty sure there are differences beyond what I was seeing, > earlier in the document. > I think Huub's proposed text addressed this. > > And, of course, I'm not sure what the effect of choosing steering over > wrapping/short wrapping would be, for my users, but that can wait until > we talk about wrapping and short wrapping ... > And this. > > At a minimum, I'd like to see guidance for operators in choosing among > the three protection mechanisms. Why would they choose any one of the > three? > Section 7 is what I was hoping for. It's likely that a forward pointer to this section, early in the document, would be helpful for your readers. Do the right thing. > > I also note that this MUST seems to be repeated using different words in > section 5.1, as > > All nodes in the same ring MUST use the same protection mechanism, > Wrapping, steering or short-wrapping. > > If that's saying the same thing, one MUST is all you need. > So, that went away. SO I CAN CLEAR MY DISCUSS ... but just to check on my comments :-) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------- all the other questions > > In this text, > > When the service LSP passes through the interconnected rings, the > direction of the working ring tunnels used on both rings SHOULD be > the same. For example, if the service LSP uses the clockwise > working > ring tunnel on Ring1, when the service LSP leaves Ring1 and enters > Ring2, the working ring tunnel used on Ring2 SHOULD also follow the > clockwise direction. > > I'm not understanding why this is a SHOULD, and not a MUST. If the > direction of the working ring tunnels used on both rings is not the same, > does this still work? > > If it still works, why does this matter? But, either way, you might > usefully say something about why this isn't always the right thing to do, > even if you just give one example. The point of SHOULD is that > implementers make their own informed decisions, so providing information > that will inform those decisions seems important. > Huub's additional text was very helpful in explaining what's going on here. > > I wanted to call out > > Ring switches MUST be preempted by higher priority RPS requests. > For > example, consider a protection switch that is active due to a manual > switch request on the given link, and another protection switch is > required due to a failure on another link. Then an RPS request MUST > be generated, the former protection switch MUST be dropped, and the > latter protection switch established. > > MSRP mechanism SHOULD support multiple protection switches in the > ring, resulting in the ring being segmented into two or more > separate > segments. This may happen when several RPS requests of the same > priority exist in the ring due to multiple failures or external > switch commands. > > as really good examples of the kind of text I think would help the places > in this document ("For example", "This may happen when") where no > examples are given. Thanks for providing those examples! > > Ouch. Do I understand from > > o Protection Switching Mode (M): This 2-bit field indicates the > protection switching mode used by the sending node of the RPS > message. This can be used to check that the ring nodes on the > same ring use the same protection switching mechanism. The > defined values of the M field are listed as below: > > +------------------+-----------------------------+ > | Bits (MSB-LSB) | Protecton Switching Mode | > +------------------+-----------------------------+ > | 0 0 | Reserved | > | 0 1 | Wrapping | > | 1 0 | Short Wrapping | > | 1 1 | Steering | > +------------------+-----------------------------+ > > that you already have three protection mechanisms, and have only one > possible codepoint to allocate for any future optimizations? Assuming > that "0 0" can be unReserved ... > Huub's explanation helped me with this one. > > Could you clarify what "anyway" means in this text? > > When multiple MS RPS requests exist at the same time addressing > different links and there is no higher priority request on the ring, > no switch SHOULD be executed and existing switches MUST be dropped. > The nodes MUST signal, anyway, the MS RPS request code. > Thanks for this one. > > I'm seeing that the commands like LP described in section 5.2.1.1 are > used in the document before these (I'm serious) helpful and clear > explanations appear. If it's possible to move section 5.2.1.1 up in the > document, that would be great, but if it isn't possible, a forward > pointer would be helpful to readers who don't already know what the > command abbreviations mean. > Thanks for the forward pointer. > > I'm really confused by this SHOULD: > > The PSC protocol [RFC6378] is designed for point-to-point LSPs, on > which the protection switching can only be performed on one or both > of the end points of the LSP. The RPS protocol is designed for ring > tunnels, which consist of multiple ring nodes, and the failure could > happen on any segment of the ring, thus RPS SHOULD be capable of > identifying and handling the different failures on the ring, and > coordinating the protection switching behavior of all the nodes on > the ring. > > I suspect that's because it's not a 2119 SHOULD, but if people think it > is, I wouldn't mind understanding why. > Thanks for fixing this. > > Section 5.3, "RPS and PSC Comparison on Ring Topology" is really helpful, > but it appears 43 pages in. Given that I'd expect people to be asking why > they should implement a new protection switching protocol when they've > already implemented PSC, I'd think this would be much more useful, early > in the document. > There's more text, and it looks helpful, but I still think it would be more useful, much earlier in the document. Do the right thing :-) ... > > I'm somewhat confused about the code point allocation strategy in this > text: > > The RPS Request Field is 8 bits, the allocated values are as > follows: > > Value Description Reference > ------- --------------------------- --------------- > 0 No Request (NR) this document > 1 Reverse Request (RR) this document > 2 unassigned > 3 Exercise (EXER) this document > 4 unassigned > 5 Wait-To-Restore (WTR) this document > 6 Manual Switch (MS) this document > 7-10 unassigned > 11 Signal Fail (SF) this document > 12 unassigned > 13 Forced Switch (FS) this document > 14 unassigned > 15 Lockout of Protection (LP) this document > 16-254 unassigned > 255 Reserved > > My first question is, why the highest priority RPS value is 15, given > that the field is 8 bits wide. If anyone ever needs to add a code point > higher than the highest priority code point, will that work well? I can > imagine code that says "if operation_priority is greater than > highest_priority, it's an error", for example. > > I may have other questions depending on your answer, but let's start > there. > Huub's explanation helped a lot. So, I'll go clear now, and thanks for working through my Discuss. Spencer --94eb2c07c8a497b85a05526ab584 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I want to thank the authors for a very readable draft. It was a pleasure to review, and that's a high bar for the subject.

I have loads of questions, but my first set of questions is an expansion of Alvaro's comment that I think rises to the level of a Discuss. Pleas= e
note that I'm asking questions, not proposing text changes, so I really=
do want to discuss it.

---------- my first set of questions

In this text,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Three typical ring protection mechanisms are described in this=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0section: wrapping, short wrapping and steering.=C2=A0 All node= s on the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0same ring MUST use the same protection mechanism.

I would like to understand what happens if they aren't - and I'm as= king,
mostly as a way of encouraging guidance for operators in debugging cases where they're not all using the same mechanism. I'm not asking for = a full
mesh of possible misconfigurations, only for a sentence or two ("If th= ey
aren't all using the same protection mechanism, the following things ma= y
happen").

Huub's additional te= xt worked for me here.
=C2=A0
More broadly, I'd like to understand why wrapping and short wrapping a= re
both defined. It seems like the only functional difference is that short wrapping doesn't give you as much latency. Is that right?

24 pages in, I see this:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0o=C2=A0 In rings utilizing the wrapping protection, each node = detects the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 failure or receives the RPS request as the destination= node MUST
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 perform the switch from/to the working ring tunnels to= /from the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 protection ring tunnels if it has no higher priority a= ctive RPS
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 request.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0o=C2=A0 In rings utilizing the short wrapping protection, each= node
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 detects the failure or receives the RPS request as the=
destination
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 node MUST perform the switch only from the working rin= g tunnels
to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the protection ring tunnels.

so I'm pretty sure there are differences beyond what I was seeing,
earlier in the document.

I think Huub&#= 39;s proposed text addressed this.
=C2=A0

And, of course, I'm not sure what the effect of choosing steering over<= br> wrapping/short wrapping would be, for my users, but that can wait until
we talk about wrapping and short wrapping ...

And this.
=C2=A0

At a minimum, I'd like to see guidance for operators in choosing among<= br> the three protection mechanisms. Why would they choose any one of the
three?

Section 7 is what I was hoping f= or. It's likely that a forward pointer to this section, early in the do= cument, would be helpful for your readers. Do the right thing.
= =C2=A0

I also note that this MUST seems to be repeated using different words in section 5.1, as

=C2=A0 =C2=A0All nodes in the same ring MUST use the same protection mechan= ism,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Wrapping, steering or short-wrapping.

If that's saying the same thing, one MUST is all you need.

So, that went away.

SO I CAN CLEAR MY DISCU= SS ... but just to check on my comments :-)
=C2=A0


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---------- all the other questions

In this text,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0When the service LSP passes through the interconnected rings, = the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0direction of the working ring tunnels used on both rings SHOUL= D be
=C2=A0 =C2=A0the same.=C2=A0 For example, if the service LSP uses the clock= wise
working
=C2=A0 =C2=A0ring tunnel on Ring1, when the service LSP leaves Ring1 and en= ters
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Ring2, the working ring tunnel used on Ring2 SHOULD also follo= w the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0clockwise direction.

I'm not understanding why this is a SHOULD, and not a MUST. If the
direction of the working ring tunnels used on both rings is not the same, does this still work?

If it still works, why does this matter? But, either way, you might
usefully say something about why this isn't always the right thing to d= o,
even if you just give one example. The point of SHOULD is that
implementers make their own informed decisions, so providing information that will inform those decisions seems important.

=
Huub's additional text was very helpful in explaining what&#= 39;s going on here.
=C2=A0

I wanted to call out

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Ring switches MUST be preempted by higher priority RPS request= s.
For
=C2=A0 =C2=A0example, consider a protection switch that is active due to a = manual
=C2=A0 =C2=A0switch request on the given link, and another protection switc= h is
=C2=A0 =C2=A0required due to a failure on another link.=C2=A0 Then an RPS r= equest MUST
=C2=A0 =C2=A0be generated, the former protection switch MUST be dropped, an= d the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0latter protection switch established.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0MSRP mechanism SHOULD support multiple protection switches in = the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0ring, resulting in the ring being segmented into two or more separate
=C2=A0 =C2=A0segments.=C2=A0 This may happen when several RPS requests of t= he same
=C2=A0 =C2=A0priority exist in the ring due to multiple failures or externa= l
=C2=A0 =C2=A0switch commands.

as really good examples of the kind of text I think would help the places in this document ("For example", "This may happen when"= ) where no
examples are given. Thanks for providing those examples!

Ouch. Do I understand from

=C2=A0 =C2=A0o=C2=A0 Protection Switching Mode (M): This 2-bit field indica= tes the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 protection switching mode used by the sending node of = the RPS
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 message.=C2=A0 This can be used to check that the ring= nodes on the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 same ring use the same protection switching mechanism.= =C2=A0 The
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 defined values of the M field are listed as below:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0+------------------+-------= ----------------------+
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 Bits (MSB-LSB)=C2= =A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0Protecton Switching Mode=C2=A0 |
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0+------------------+-------= ----------------------+
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A00 0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Reserv= ed=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A00 1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Wrappi= ng=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A01 0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Short Wrappin= g=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A01 1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Steeri= ng=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0+------------------+-------= ----------------------+

that you already have three protection mechanisms, and have only one
possible codepoint to allocate for any future optimizations? Assuming
that "0 0" can be unReserved ...

<= div>Huub's explanation helped me with this one.
=C2=A0
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Could you clarify what "anyway" means in this text?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0When multiple MS RPS requests exist at the same time addressin= g
=C2=A0 =C2=A0different links and there is no higher priority request on the= ring,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0no switch SHOULD be executed and existing switches MUST be dro= pped.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0The nodes MUST signal, anyway, the MS RPS request code.

Thanks for this one.
=C2=A0

I'm seeing that the commands like LP described in section 5.2.1.1=C2=A0= are
used in the document before these (I'm serious) helpful and clear
explanations appear. If it's possible to move section 5.2.1.1 up in the=
document, that would be great, but if it isn't possible, a forward
pointer would be helpful to readers who don't already know what the
command abbreviations mean.

Thanks for = the forward pointer.
=C2=A0

I'm really confused by this SHOULD:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0The PSC protocol [RFC6378] is designed for point-to-point LSPs= , on
=C2=A0 =C2=A0which the protection switching can only be performed on one or= both
=C2=A0 =C2=A0of the end points of the LSP.=C2=A0 The RPS protocol is design= ed for ring
=C2=A0 =C2=A0tunnels, which consist of multiple ring nodes, and the failure= could
=C2=A0 =C2=A0happen on any segment of the ring, thus RPS SHOULD be capable = of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0identifying and handling the different failures on the ring, a= nd
=C2=A0 =C2=A0coordinating the protection switching behavior of all the node= s on
=C2=A0 =C2=A0the ring.

I suspect that's because it's not a 2119 SHOULD, but if people thin= k it
is, I wouldn't mind understanding why.

<= div>Thanks for fixing this.
=C2=A0

Section 5.3, "RPS and PSC Comparison on Ring Topology" is really = helpful,
but it appears 43 pages in. Given that I'd expect people to be asking w= hy
they should implement a new protection switching protocol when they've<= br> already implemented PSC, I'd think this would be much more useful, earl= y
in the document.

There's more text,= and it looks helpful, but I still think it would be more useful, much earl= ier in the document. Do the right thing :-) ...
=C2=A0

I'm somewhat confused about the code point allocation strategy in this<= br> text:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0The RPS Request Field is 8 bits, the allocated values are as follows:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Value=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Description=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Reference
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 -------=C2=A0 --------------------------- ------------= ---
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0No Request (NR)=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0this document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Reverse Request (RR)= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 this document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0unassigned
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A03=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Exercise (EXER)=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0this document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A04=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0unassigned
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A05=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Wait-To-Restore (WTR= )=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0this document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A06=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Manual Switch (MS)= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 this document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 7-10=C2=A0 =C2=A0unassigned
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 11=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Signal Fail (SF)=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 this document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 12=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0unassigned
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 13=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Forced Switch (FS)=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 this document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 14=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0unassigned
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 15=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Lockout of Protection (LP= )=C2=A0 this document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 16-254=C2=A0 =C2=A0unassigned
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 255=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Reserved

My first question is, why the highest priority RPS value is 15, given
that the field is 8 bits wide. If anyone ever needs to add a code point
higher than the highest priority code point, will that work well? I can
imagine code that says "if operation_priority is greater than
highest_priority, it's an error", for example.

I may have other questions depending on your answer, but let's start there.

Huub's explanation helped a = lot.

So, I'll go clear now, and thanks for wor= king through my Discuss.

Spencer=C2=A0
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Questions by email or voice are welcome. Volunteering for the NomCom is a great way to contribute to the IETF! You can find a detailed timeline on the NomCom web site at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2017/ I will be publishing a more detailed target timetable, as well as details of the randomness seeds to be used for the RFC 3797 selection process, within short order. Thank you! Peter Yee peter at akayla dot com nomcom-chair-2017 at ietf dot org -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Wed Jun 21 08:49:54 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF0F12EAC1 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 08:49:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.082 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.082 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YByyb6mDMp4E for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 08:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp06.msg.oleane.net (smtp06.msg.oleane.net [62.161.4.6]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80AF712EB4C for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 08:48:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MichelGossePC (LMontsouris-656-1-5-162.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr [80.12.94.162]) (authenticated) by smtp06.msg.oleane.net (MSA) with ESMTP id v5LFmYlH016270 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 17:48:34 +0200 X-Oleane-Rep: REPA From: "Michel Gosse" To: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 17:48:29 +0200 Message-ID: <004201d2eaa5$d4543ec0$7cfcbc40$@upperside.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01D2EAB6.97DD5CE0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AdLqpZBuI/hxgeePRU6J2TOjVT1tiQ== Content-Language: fr X-Backend: vm-mx-sophos-mta95 X-PMX-Backend: PMX 6.3.1.2588712, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2017.6.21.154216 running on vm-mx-sophos-mta95 X-PMX-VirusScan: no virus found X-PFSI-Info: PMX 6.3.1.2588712, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2017.6.21.154216 (no virus found) X-PMX-Spam: Probability=10% X-PMX-SpamScan: NO 10% X X-Orange-Auth: bWcyNjMtM0B1cHBlc2lkZS5mci5mdG8= Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] MPLS World 2018: Call for proposals X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:49:52 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01D2EAB6.97DD5CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The call for proposals of the MPLS + SDN + NFV World Congress 2018 is online. Main items: ONAP/CORD reports, uCPE/SD-WAN, EVPN, VNF, automation, network slicing. Deadline for turning in abstracts is July 15th. More info : http://www.uppersideconferences.com/mpls-sdn-nfv/mplswc2018_cfp.html ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01D2EAB6.97DD5CE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The call for proposals of the MPLS = + SDN + NFV World Congress 2018 is online. 

 

Main = items: ONAP/CORD reports, uCPE/SD-WAN, EVPN, VNF, automation, network = slicing.

Deadline for turning in abstracts is July = 15th. 

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0043_01D2EAB6.97DD5CE0-- From nobody Wed Jun 21 08:59:06 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B6D12EBF2; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 08:59:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Kumari To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@ietf.org, loa@pi.nu, mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149806074381.15547.15809082916681136670.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 08:59:03 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Warren Kumari's No Objection on draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:59:04 -0000 Warren Kumari has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1: Does this document really need 6 front page authors? 2: The shepherd writeup says: "We are aware of several intentions to implement this secification. An implementation poll has been sent to the working group and as further information is received, the write-up will be updated." -- was any further info received? 3: The shepherd writeup also says: "There is one small issue that I'm currently clearing with IANA." -- is this the value of the status code E bit? Or some other issue? Nits: 1: There are are a number of unexpanded acronyms -- e.g: LSP is no "well known" - https://www.rfc-editor.org/materials/abbrev.expansion.txt 2: Sec 1 Introduction "LDP uses extended discovery mechanism to establish..." - "LDP uses *the* extended discovery mechanism" (or discovery *mechanisms*) 3: Sec 1 Introduction "An LSR initiates extended discovery... " - "A LSR..." ("An Label Switch" wouldn't make much sense) 4: Sec 1 Introduction "In addition, since the session is initiated and established after adjacency formation, the responding LSR has no targeted applications information to choose the targeted application" - "has no targeted applications information available to choose which targeted application". 5: Sec 1 Introduction "Also, targeted LDP application is mapped .." - "Also, the targeted LDP application is mapped" 6: Sec 1.2 Terminology "This document uses terminology discussed in [RFC7473] along with others defined in this document." feels clumsy. How about: "In addition to the terminology defined in [RFC7473], this document uses the following terms: " 7: Sec 2.1 Encoding "An LSR MAY advertise that it is capable to negotiate a targeted LDP ..." - "An LSR MAY advertise that it is capable of negotiating a targeted LDP ..." From nobody Wed Jun 21 13:42:23 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E8B1294AB; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 13:42:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric Rescorla To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@ietf.org, loa@pi.nu, mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149807773455.1030.16098566074241306646.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 13:42:14 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 20:42:15 -0000 Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Document: draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-00.txt LDP can use the extended discovery mechanism to establish a tLDP adjacency and subsequent session as described in [RFC5036]. An LSR Please expand LDP and tLDP on first use. Also, I don't see tLDP in RFC 5037 despite the citation S 2.1. A Targeted Applications Capability data consists of none, one or more 32 bit Targeted Application Elements. Its encoding is as follows: This is ungrammatical. Is it intended to say "zero or more"? S 2.2. If the receiver LSR does not receive the TAC in the Initialization message or it does not understand the TAC TLV, the TAC negotiation MUST be considered unsuccessful and the session establishment MUST proceed as per [RFC5036]. On the receipt of a valid TAC TLV, an LSR MUST generate its own TAC TLV with TAEs consisting of unique TA-Ids that it supports over the tLDP session. If there is at least one TAE common between the TAC TLV it has received and its own, the session MUST proceed to establishment as per [RFC5036]. If not, A LSR MUST send a 'Session Rejected/Targeted Application Capability Mis-Match' Notification message to the peer and close the session. The initiating LSR SHOULD tear down the corresponding tLDP adjacency after send or receipt of a 'Session Rejected/Targeted Application Capability Mis-Match' Notification message to or from the responding LSR respectively. This seems like odd semantic: if I don't understand the TLV, I continue with session establishment, but if I understand it but there's no overlap I close the session? instance, suppose a initiating LSR advertises A, B and C as TA-Ids. Further, suppose the responding LSR advertises C, D and E as TA-Ids. Than the negotiated TA-Id, as per both the LSRs is C. In the second instance, suppose a initiating LSR advertises A, B and C as TA-Ids and the responding LSR, which acts as a passive LSR, advertises all the applications - A, B, C, D and E that it supports over this session. Than the negotiated targeted application as per both the Should this say "applications"? It seems like you're just computing intersection. If the Targeted Application Capability and Dynamic Capability, as described in [RFC5561], are negotiated during session initialization, TAC MAY be re-negotiated after session establishment by sending an updated TAC TLV in LDP Capability message. The updated TAC TLV carries TA-Ids with incremental update only. The updated TLV MUST consist of one or more TAEs with E-bit set or E-bit off to advertise or withdraw the new and old application respectively. This may lead to advertisements or withdrawals of certain types of FEC-Label bindings over the session or tear down of the tLDP adjacency and subsequently the session. So, advertisements are cumulative? If I advertise A, B and then C, that means I do A, B, C? From nobody Wed Jun 21 16:06:09 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA36912426E; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 16:06:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Adam Roach To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@ietf.org, loa@pi.nu, mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149808636195.30460.11427006561517429236.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 16:06:01 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 23:06:02 -0000 Adam Roach has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Please expand the following acronyms upon first use and in the title; see https://www.rfc-editor.org/materials/abbrev.expansion.txt for guidance. - LSR - Label Switching Router - mLDP - Multipoint LDP - PQ - Unknown - TAI - Unknown - RSVP-TE - RSVP - Traffic Engineering - P2MP - Point-to-Multipoint - PW - pseudowire - P2P-PW - Peer-to-peer Psuedowire (presumably?) - MP2MP - Multipoint-to-Multipoint - HSMP - Unknown - LSP - Label Switched Path - MP2P - Unknown (should this be P2MP?) - MPT - Unknown From nobody Wed Jun 21 19:27:40 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 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mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B191C124C27; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 06:40:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Benoit Claise To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@ietf.org, loa@pi.nu, mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149813880572.30434.14353039427685435908.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 06:40:05 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Benoit Claise's No Objection on draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 13:40:06 -0000 Benoit Claise has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Close to a DISCUSS, but in the end a COMMENT, assuming I don't know enough about tLDP. Let's have a discussion regardless. This document defines a mechanism to advertise and negotiate Targeted Applications Capability (TAC) during LDP session initialization. ... This document proposes and describes a solution to advertise Targeted Application Capability (TAC), consisting of a targeted application list, during initialization of a tLDP session. ... An LSR MAY advertise that it is capable to negotiate a targeted LDP application list over a tLDP session by using the Capability Advertisement as defined in [RFC5561] and encoded as follows: ... At tLDP session establishment time, a LSR MAY include a new capability TLV, TAC TLV, as an optional TLV in the LDP Initialization message. Reading the doc., I've been wondering for many pages now. Do we speak negotation ... From the initiating LSR: these are the Targeted Application (Identifier(s)) for which I would like to initializate a tLDP Answer from the responding LSR: yes, possible. No, not possible Question: is the tLDP session established. >From the initiating LSR: from this list, tell me which Targeted Application (Identifiers) you support Answer from the responding LSR: here are the Targeted Application (Identifiers) I support >From the receiving LSR: here are the Targeted Application (Identifiers) I support Throughout the doc, clarify if the LSR is the initiating or receiving party. As a starting point, this text should be updated: At tLDP session establishment time, a LSR MAY include a new capability TLV, TAC TLV, as an optional TLV in the LDP Initialization message. LSR => initiating LSR. Oh, wait, then I've been confused with: "If both the peers advertise TAC TLV," So both can start the negotiation? Then you speak about "the responding LSR playing the active role in LDP session" So it's not about initiating/responding LSR any longer. A small diagram with arrows, at least for the most common case, would go a long way. From nobody Thu Jun 22 07:48:45 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0296F12702E; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 07:48:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ben Campbell To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@ietf.org, loa@pi.nu, mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149814291691.30632.16984845315293045969.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 07:48:36 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:48:37 -0000 Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (I cleared my discuss. Alexey pointed out that the registration policies for unassigned ranges are explicitly mentioned in the table itself. Apologies, I missed that.) -General: When you use the word "application", is a person skilled in MPLS automatically going to think in terms of the sort of "applications" listed here? If not, it would be good to have a paragraph early in the introduction that describes what you mean by "applications". As an application-layer person, I tend to think of it in terms of application-layer applications. Am I correct to assume that it would not make sense to register, for example, HTTP in the the LDP Targeted Application Identifier registry? - 1.1: I noticed a number instances of at least "may" in lower case. If your intent is that lower case words not be treated as keywords, please consider using the new boilerplate from RFC 8174 Nits: -1, first paragraph: "LDP uses extended discovery mechanism..." Missing article before "discovery". -2.2, paragraph 4 and 5, "... a maximum value, as 0xffff.": should "as" be "such as"? -2.2, paragraphs 6 and 7: the "it" in the opening sentence of each paragraph has an unclear antecedent. 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draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf= .org; > mpls@ietf.org; draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org; rtgwg@ietf.org > Subject: Re: MPLS label and LSE data models >=20 > Xufeng, >=20 > On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 07:33:05PM +0000, Xufeng Liu wrote: > > From: Greg Mirsky [mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com] > > * yes, grouping mpls-label-stack covers LSE though I cannot see why= it needs > id, sequence identifier. I'd expect the label stack already be properly o= rdered; > > [Xufeng] There are two ways to achieve the ordering: 1) Explicit sequen= ce id, 2) > Implicit order of the list items. Personally I feel that the explicit way= is more > clear and easier to use, but have no strong objection to the implicit way= . >=20 > While I found the semantics of mpls-label-stack[id] to be clear, it does = have the > peculiar property that the ids present in the list may have gaps. E.g. 1= 0,20,30 > instead of 1,2,3. And also the ambiguity of whether people's implementat= ions > starting counting at 0 or 1. [Xufeng] I understand the peculiarity of the ID gaps, but I don't have a go= od way to eliminate it. It seems that YANG does not have a simple mechanism= to specify an ordered list items allowing duplicated items, so we'd need t= o use the ID, but we cannot restrict the ID values to be consecutive easily= . However, the implantation and the operator can ignore the gaps, and use t= he ID values only for the ordering purpose. Therefore, it would not matter = whether the implementation starts counting at 0 or 1, or any other number. >=20 > I'm not conversant with common Yang tool suites, but it seems if the orde= red-by > user rather than the default of system, then the tooling might present th= e > bottom of stack entry as the first or last node of the list rather than r= equiring the > consumer to have to run a sort of the nodes based on the id number and th= en > select the first node. [Xufeng] Are you suggesting to use the position to order instead of the ID = value? If so, what would be the semantics of the ID value? If we cannot get= rid of the ID key, I don't know if using a separate ordering mechanism wil= l make the usability better. 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From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org, smccammon@amsl.com, mpls-chairs@ietf.org, db3546@att.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149826181590.7699.8819650089726576693.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:50:15 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] mpls - Update to a Meeting Session Request for IETF 99 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 23:50:16 -0000 An update to a meeting session request has just been submitted by Stephanie McCammon, on behalf of the mpls working group. --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Multiprotocol Label Switching Area Name: Routing Area Session Requester: Stephanie McCammon Number of Sessions: 2 Length of Session(s): 2.5 Hours, 1 Hour Number of Attendees: 150 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: teas ccamp pce spring bess bfd idr pals bier detnet Second Priority: nvo3 sfc i2rs rtgarea rtgwg Third Priority: ospf isis sidr People who must be present: George Swallow Loa Andersson Deborah Brungard Nicolai Leymann Tarek Saad Resources Requested: Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Fri Jun 23 17:09:35 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E557C129B2C; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 17:07:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: mpls@ietf.org, db3546@att.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149826282193.7840.3709903984872502821.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 17:07:01 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] mpls - Requested sessions have been scheduled for IETF 99 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 00:07:02 -0000 Dear Tarek Saad, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. mpls Session 1 (2:30:00) Tuesday, Afternoon Session I 1330-1530 Room Name: Congress Hall II size: 350 --------------------------------------------- mpls Session 2 (1:00:00) Friday, Afternoon Session II 1150-1320 Room Name: Grand Hilton Ballroom size: 250 --------------------------------------------- Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Multiprotocol Label Switching Area Name: Routing Area Session Requester: Tarek Saad Number of Sessions: 2 Length of Session(s): 2.5 Hours, 1 Hour Number of Attendees: 150 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: teas ccamp pce spring bess bfd idr pals bier detnet Second Priority: nvo3 sfc i2rs rtgarea rtgwg Third Priority: ospf isis sidr People who must be present: George Swallow Loa Andersson Deborah Brungard Nicolai Leymann Tarek Saad Resources Requested: Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Fri Jun 23 22:02:49 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5DF129B4F; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 22:02:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.881 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.881 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nY6AH5yDdOWl; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 22:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2ECD129B4D; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 22:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.63] (cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v5O52fd3005652 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 24 Jun 2017 00:02:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22] claimed to be [10.0.1.63] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) From: Ben Campbell In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 00:02:40 -0500 Cc: The IESG , "draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "loa@pi.nu" , "mpls@ietf.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7280838F-4BC6-473A-AF72-28B3C0B05785@nostrum.com> References: <149814291691.30632.16984845315293045969.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: Santosh Esale X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 05:02:47 -0000 Hi, Your responses resolve all of my comments. Thanks! Ben. > On Jun 23, 2017, at 4:08 PM, Santosh Esale wrote: >=20 > Hello Ben, Please see inline for answers. >=20 >=20 > On 6/22/17, 7:48 AM, "Ben Campbell" wrote: >=20 >> Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for >> draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08: No Objection >>=20 >> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all >> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut = this >> introductory paragraph, however.) >>=20 >>=20 >> Please refer to = https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html >> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. >>=20 >>=20 >> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp/ >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> = ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> COMMENT: >> = ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>=20 >> (I cleared my discuss. Alexey pointed out that the registration = policies >> for >> unassigned ranges are explicitly mentioned in the table itself. >> Apologies, I >> missed that.) >>=20 >> -General: When you use the word "application", is a person skilled = in >> MPLS >> automatically going to think in terms of the sort of "applications" = listed >> here? If not, it would be good to have a paragraph early in the >> introduction >> that describes what you mean by "applications". As an = application-layer >> person, >> I tend to think of it in terms of application-layer applications. Am = I >> correct >> to assume that it would not make sense to register, for example, HTTP = in >> the >> the LDP Targeted Application Identifier registry? > Correct.=20 > Also added the following definition of application to first paragraph = - > Targeted=20 > LDP application is an application that uses tLDP session to exchange > information=20 > such as FEC-Label bindings with a peer LSR in the network. >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> - 1.1: I noticed a number instances of at least "may" in lower case. = If >> your >> intent is that lower case words not be treated as keywords, please >> consider >> using the new boilerplate from RFC 8174 >=20 > Updated. >=20 >>=20 >> Nits: >>=20 >> -1, first paragraph: "LDP uses extended discovery mechanism..." >> Missing article before "discovery". >=20 > Updated. >>=20 >> -2.2, paragraph 4 and 5, "... a maximum value, as 0xffff.": should = "as" be >> "such as"? >=20 > Yes. 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W [sent from a phone; apologies for terseness / autocorrect fun....] On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 6:11 PM Santosh Esale wrote: > Warren, > Thanks for the review and comments. Answers inline. > > > On 6/21/17, 8:59 AM, "Warren Kumari" wrote: > > >Warren Kumari has entered the following ballot position for > >draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08: No Objection > > > >When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > >email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > >introductory paragraph, however.) > > > > > >Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > >for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > > > >The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp/ > > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >COMMENT: > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >1: Does this document really need 6 front page authors? > The latest version has 5 authors on the front page. > > > >2: The shepherd writeup says: "We are aware of several intentions to > >implement > >this secification. An implementation poll has been sent to the working > >group > >and as further information is received, the write-up will be updated." -- > >was > >any further info received? > I would let Loa answer it. > > > >3: The shepherd writeup also says: "There is one small issue that I'm > >currently > >clearing with IANA." -- is this the value of the status code E bit? Or > >some > >other issue? > AFAIK, it is the value of the status code E bit. > > > >Nits: > >1: There are are a number of unexpanded acronyms -- e.g: LSP is no "well > >known" > >- https://www.rfc-editor.org/materials/abbrev.expansion.txt > Updated. > > > >2: Sec 1 Introduction > >"LDP uses extended discovery mechanism to establish..." - "LDP uses *the* > >extended discovery mechanism" (or discovery *mechanisms*) > Its the former. Updated. > > >3: Sec 1 Introduction > > "An LSR initiates extended discovery... " - "A LSR..." ("An Label Switch" > > wouldn't make much sense) > Updated. > > >4: Sec 1 Introduction > >"In addition, since the session is initiated and established after > >adjacency > >formation, the responding LSR has no targeted applications information to > >choose the targeted application" - "has no targeted applications > >information > >available to choose which targeted application". > Updated. > > > >5: Sec 1 Introduction > >"Also, targeted LDP application is mapped .." - "Also, the targeted LDP > >application is mapped" > Updated. > > > >6: Sec 1.2 Terminology > >"This document uses terminology discussed in [RFC7473] along with others > >defined in this document." feels clumsy. How about: "In addition to the > >terminology defined in [RFC7473], this document uses the following terms: > >" > Updated. > > > >7: Sec 2.1 Encoding > >"An LSR MAY advertise that it is capable to negotiate a targeted LDP ..." > >- "An > >LSR MAY advertise that it is capable of negotiating a targeted LDP ..." > Updated. > > > > Santosh (on behalf of Authors) > > > > -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf --001a1145807083f3b40552b3acc5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Cool, thanks for addressing / considering my comments.

W
[= sent from a phone; apologies for terseness / autocorrect fun....]


On Fri, Ju= n 23, 2017 at 6:11 PM Santosh Esale <sesale@juniper.net> wrote:
warren@kumari.net> wrote:

>Warren Kumari has entered the following ballot position for
>draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-08: No Objection
>
>When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all >email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this=
>introductory paragraph, however.)
>
>
>Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/ie= sg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
>for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
>
>
>The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc= /draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp/
>
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------<= br> >COMMENT:
>----------------------------------------------------------------------<= br> >
>1: Does this document really need 6 front page authors?
The latest version has 5 authors on the front page.
>
>2: The shepherd writeup says: "We are aware of several intentions = to
>implement
>this secification. An implementation poll has been sent to the working<= br> >group
>and as further information is received, the write-up will be updated.&q= uot; --
>was
>any further info received?
I would let Loa answer it.
>
>3: The shepherd writeup also says: "There is one small issue that = I'm
>currently
>clearing with IANA." -- is this the value of the status code E bit= ? Or
>some
>other issue?
AFAIK, it is the value of the status code E bit.
>
>Nits:
>1: There are are a number of unexpanded acronyms -- e.g: LSP is no &quo= t;well
>known"
>- https://www.rfc-editor.org/materials/= abbrev.expansion.txt
Updated.
>
>2: Sec 1=C2=A0 Introduction
>"LDP uses extended discovery mechanism to establish..." - &qu= ot;LDP uses *the*
>extended discovery mechanism" (or discovery *mechanisms*)
Its the former. Updated.

>3: Sec 1=C2=A0 Introduction
> "An LSR initiates extended discovery... " - "A LSR...&q= uot; ("An Label Switch"
> wouldn't make much sense)
Updated.

>4: Sec 1=C2=A0 Introduction
>"In addition, since the session is initiated and established after=
>adjacency
>formation, the responding LSR has no targeted applications information = to
>choose the targeted application" - "has no targeted applicati= ons
>information
>available to choose which targeted application".
Updated.
>
>5: Sec 1=C2=A0 Introduction
>"Also, targeted LDP application is mapped .." - "Also, t= he targeted LDP
>application is mapped"
Updated.
>
>6: Sec 1.2 Terminology
>"This document uses terminology discussed in [RFC7473] along with = others
>defined in this document." feels clumsy. How about: "In addit= ion to the
>terminology defined in [RFC7473], this document uses the following term= s:
>"
Updated.
>
>7: Sec 2.1 Encoding
>"An LSR MAY advertise that it is capable to negotiate a targeted L= DP ..."
>- "An
>LSR MAY advertise that it is capable of negotiating a targeted LDP ...&= quot;
Updated.
>

Santosh (on behalf of Authors)
>

--
I don't think the execution is relevant when it wa= s obviously a bad idea in the first place.
This is like putting rabid we= asels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those par= ticular rabid weasels and that pair of pants.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0---maf
--001a1145807083f3b40552b3acc5-- From nobody Mon Jun 26 08:16:11 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C59812EAEA; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 08:16:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149849016314.31785.4382578305769033764@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 08:16:03 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework-05.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 15:16:03 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Synonymous Flow Label Framework Authors : Stewart Bryant Mach Chen Zhenbin Li George Swallow Siva Sivabalan Gregory Mirsky Filename : draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework-05.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2017-06-26 Abstract: draft-ietf-mpls-flow-ident describes the requirement for introducing flow identities within the MPLS architecture. This document describes a method of accomplishing this by using a technique called Synonymous Flow Labels in which labels which mimic the behaviour of other labels provide the identification service. These identifiers can be used to trigger per-flow operations on the on the packet at the receiving label switching router. 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The operator can elect to use [RFC6790] Entropy Labels in a network that fully supports this type of ECMP. If this approach is adopted, the intervening MPLS network MUST NOT load balance on any packet field other than the entropy label. Note that this is stricter than the text in Section 4.2 of [RFC6790]. In networks in which the ECMP decision is independent of both the value of any other label in the label stack, and the MPLS payload, the path of the flow with the SFL will be congruent with the path without the SFL. I think that this addresses the concerns raised during the previous review. If there are any other points that I missed, please let me know. Otherwise I think that we are ready to move forward. - Stewart On 26/06/2017 16:16, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. > > Title : Synonymous Flow Label Framework > Authors : Stewart Bryant > Mach Chen > Zhenbin Li > George Swallow > Siva Sivabalan > Gregory Mirsky > Filename : draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework-05.txt > Pages : 10 > Date : 2017-06-26 > > Abstract: > draft-ietf-mpls-flow-ident describes the requirement for introducing > flow identities within the MPLS architecture. This document > describes a method of accomplishing this by using a technique called > Synonymous Flow Labels in which labels which mimic the behaviour of > other labels provide the identification service. These identifiers > can be used to trigger per-flow operations on the on the packet at > the receiving label switching router. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework-05 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework-05 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework-05 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --------------134C6D05057DBD24CF70E4A2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


The changes in this version are the inclusion of RFC2119 boilerplate (which nits
doesn't like) and the following replacement text for point two in Section 5
(Equal Cost Multipath Considerations )

   2.  The operator can elect to use [RFC6790] Entropy Labels in a
       network that fully supports this type of ECMP.  If this approach
       is adopted, the intervening MPLS network MUST NOT load balance on
       any packet field other than the entropy label.  Note that this is
       stricter than the text in Section 4.2 of [RFC6790].  In networks
       in which the ECMP decision is independent of both the value of
       any other label in the label stack, and the MPLS payload, the
       path of the flow with the SFL will be congruent with the path
       without the SFL.

I think that this addresses the concerns raised during the previous review.

If there are any other points that I missed, please let me know. Otherwise
I think that we are ready to move forward.

- Stewart
On 26/06/2017 16:16, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF.

        Title           : Synonymous Flow Label Framework
        Authors         : Stewart Bryant
                          Mach Chen
                          Zhenbin Li
                          George Swallow
                          Siva Sivabalan
                          Gregory Mirsky
	Filename        : draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework-05.txt
	Pages           : 10
	Date            : 2017-06-26

Abstract:
   draft-ietf-mpls-flow-ident describes the requirement for introducing
   flow identities within the MPLS architecture.  This document
   describes a method of accomplishing this by using a technique called
   Synonymous Flow Labels in which labels which mimic the behaviour of
   other labels provide the identification service.  These identifiers
   can be used to trigger per-flow operations on the on the packet at
   the receiving label switching router.


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<149859539754.31085.2059230421371020521@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 13:29:57 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-mpls-rfc3107bis-02 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 20:29:58 -0000 Reviewer: Stewart Bryant Review result: Ready Firstly my apologies for the lateness of this review. This is a very well written draft, and can proceed as is. Useful clarity might be added to Section 4 (dataplane) by the inclusion of some figures. I say this as someone that finds it easier to take in information in that format, so that is a personal preference comment, the text is correct and technically sufficient. There is an intriguing piece of text in the dataplane section "While this may be useful in certain scenarios, it may provide unintended results in other scenarios." which I think might be usefully expanded to give at least one example of a use, and an unintended consequence. In the introduction it says: "In [RFC3107], this feature was controlled by a BGP Capability Code that has never been implemented, and is now essentially obsolete." which left me wondering whether there was the intention to formally deprecate the feature through the RFC system. From nobody Tue Jun 27 14:16:05 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F5D12EB4A for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:16:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rjOZCINgvzRa for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy5.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.38.55]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62CE812EB30 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmgw4 (unknown [10.0.90.85]) by gproxy5.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD07814051B for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:52:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw4 with id dwsJ1v00A2SSUrH01wsMQ5; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:52:21 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=QdwWhoTv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=LWSFodeU3zMA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=L6t9TxIPINKBRCnAAkkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=FBXsixzRnFQD/wLFLPdEgT5wUQwYR2d5hoY2vKENTLc=; b=Oeda7WBHuLpx1DHOCV1gFUyglA 7TzxjQ8xONzCTBli4HUErgxSVEQnTm3xOjieIIFMdxrahkjdIF/NeRWl8WqjaScF1EFtBDe6P6Rps laRwxU1qvbDO29tOnSf6BzJos; Received: from pool-100-15-84-20.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.84.20]:44132 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1dPxT7-000XPV-TT; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:52:18 -0600 To: Eric C Rosen , Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" , idr@ietf.org, BESS Cc: "" , idr-chairs@ietf.org, bess-chairs@ietf.org, "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , draft-ietf-mpls-rfc3107bis@ietf.org References: <93a6a754-0a2e-2053-542c-a4ce8bf9213b@pi.nu> <61e452c6-80eb-ff94-878d-3152270fc032@pi.nu> <589f3a5e-b663-cc36-bff4-4f2d9b6c207e@juniper.net> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 16:52:13 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <589f3a5e-b663-cc36-bff4-4f2d9b6c207e@juniper.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.84.20 X-Exim-ID: 1dPxT7-000XPV-TT X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-84-20.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.84.20]:44132 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 11 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] Closed -- Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mpls-rfc3107bis X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 21:16:04 -0000 Hi, I know this is a late comment, but feel free to view it as an early IETF LC comment if you wish:-) Section 5 seems to catalogue a fair number of options and allows for incompatible implementations: These differences in the behavior of different implementations may result in unexpected behavior or lack of interoperability. In some cases, it may be difficult or impossible to achieve the desired policies with certain implementations or combinations of implementations. It would be really nice to have something (or some combination) at least recommended to be implemented to ensure interoperability. Do you think it's possible to define such a recommendation, or do we just punt? (Surely there is a defacto default/minimal mode already in the market!) Thanks, Lou On 5/11/2017 12:45 PM, Eric C Rosen wrote: > I have now posted draft-ietf-mpls-rfc3107bis-02.txt, which I believe > addresses the LC comments. > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > From nobody Tue Jun 27 14:44:22 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CA512EB1A; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:44:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.523 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wMQ8S0Y5srDV; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6077B1200C5; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:44:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=520; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1498599853; x=1499809453; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=dOwO+JcEF1Qr13r3qV7H32ehRu9d1Y7w9h54WiG8krs=; b=arkGGZkrSnx9tUKOmm+KQ1UA7hxtqBRz2lo3oIH3LWYpUF7CUusbb82g TZ1tbOiYMyPoTE0ER8s/e2d3Yv0yVUujokA0Hqyb1g+HI+d02xRrOhtdI uxKqV962SkbRcN8ok0t6p0kv1It7mg0YozXJliZjFdhXjVcF+cg2W9SSB Y=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0CZAABC0FJZ/5JdJa1cGQEBAQEBAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBBwEBAQEBg1iBeI1+p2KCEYYcgwU/GAECAQEBAQEBAWsohVk/EgE+QiYBBAE?= =?us-ascii?q?NDYoosxCLXQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBASCDJ4NMgWGOAgWebwKBX5IBgXsYh?= =?us-ascii?q?UmKQZUjAR84gQp0FYdciQUBgQwBAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.40,272,1496102400"; d="scan'208";a="252795157" Received: from rcdn-core-10.cisco.com ([173.37.93.146]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 27 Jun 2017 21:44:12 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-002.cisco.com (xch-rcd-002.cisco.com [173.37.102.12]) by rcdn-core-10.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v5RLiCA0003810 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 27 Jun 2017 21:44:12 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) by XCH-RCD-002.cisco.com (173.37.102.12) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1210.3; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 16:44:12 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) with mapi id 15.00.1210.000; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 16:44:11 -0500 From: "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" To: "TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org)" , "ccamp@ietf.org" , "pce@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" CC: "teas-chairs@ietf.org" , "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" Thread-Topic: Agenda for Joint Yang WG session in Prague Thread-Index: AdLvjgoSaBfnmsHxTqCqVsjaruTqnA== Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 21:44:11 +0000 Message-ID: <169daa25ca484ed1ad79f140cad6c250@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [161.44.213.79] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Agenda for Joint Yang WG session in Prague X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 21:44:15 -0000 All, Once again, we'll be having a joint Yang session. This time, TEAS is hostin= g, which means I get to organize the agenda. We're meeting at 13:30 - 15:30 on Thursday July 20th. Please send slot requ= ests for the TEAS session to me by the end of the day on Monday, July 3rd (= that's next week). Note that this is also the deadline for draft submission= . We'll need slides for presentation by Friday, July 14th so that we can get = them ready to present over the weekend. Cheers Matt/Lou/Pavan From nobody Tue Jun 27 21:40:02 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7158E12009C; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 21:40:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149862480042.18193.5672669890973184663@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 21:40:00 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-09.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 04:40:00 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. Title : Application-aware Targeted LDP Authors : Santosh Esale Raveendra Torvi Luay Jalil Uma Chunduri Kamran Raza Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-09.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2017-06-27 Abstract: Recent targeted Label Distribution Protocol (tLDP) applications such as remote loop-free alternate (LFA) and BGP auto discovered pseudowire may automatically establish a tLDP session to any Label Switching Router (LSR) in a network. The initiating LSR has information about the targeted applications to administratively control initiation of the session. However, the responding LSR has no such information to control acceptance of this session. This document defines a mechanism to advertise and negotiate Targeted Applications Capability (TAC) during LDP session initialization. As the responding LSR becomes aware of targeted applications, it may establish a limited number of tLDP sessions for certain applications. In addition, each targeted application is mapped to LDP Forwarding Equivalence Class (FEC) Elements to advertise only necessary LDP FEC- label bindings over the session. This document updates RFC 7473 for enabling advertisement of LDP FEC-label bindings over the session. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-09 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-09 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-09 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Jun 28 03:35:16 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA87127286; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 03:35:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jzGmNejyTd2m; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 03:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC323126C0F; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 03:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (c213-89-111-155.bredband.comhem.se [213.89.111.155]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AB67B1802ACC; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 12:35:11 +0200 (CEST) To: "mpls@ietf.org" References: <14c7b495-b3ce-8f81-d7ef-7abc33424acb@pi.nu> Cc: draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework@ietf.org, "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <7c94727d-653c-3220-d449-f3df29feabb7@pi.nu> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 12:35:07 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14c7b495-b3ce-8f81-d7ef-7abc33424acb@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 10:35:14 -0000 Working Group, authors, We have started to prepare the the draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework for working group adoption, prior to the wgap we need to do an IPR poll. This mail starts this IPR poll. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). There are two IPR disclosures against draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS WG mailing list.* The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. /Loa mpls wg co-chair -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Wed Jun 28 05:52:53 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597F9129ABE; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 05:52:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.022 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.022 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham 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28 Jun 2017 12:52:43.8374 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BY2PR05MB2184 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-mpls-rfc3107bis-02 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 12:52:51 -0000 On 6/27/2017 4:29 PM, Stewart Bryant wrote: > In the introduction it says: "In [RFC3107], this feature was controlled by a > BGP Capability Code that has never been implemented, and is now essentially > obsolete." which left me wondering whether there was the intention to formally > deprecate the feature through the RFC system. The IANA consideration section of this document requests that the "multiple routes to a destination" capability code be marked as deprecated, with a reference to this document. Isn't that sufficient? 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Isn't that sufficient? > Hi Eric, Sorry I missed that. I am not sure if the same protocol applies to IANA codepoints as RFCs, but if you were obsoleting an RFC it would need to be noted in the abstract and the introduction. If you do a respin it might be better to note the deprecation near the text on obsolescence, since people tend to read the main text and not the IANA section. However at the end of the day it is up to the AD how they want to handle this. - Stewart From nobody Wed Jun 28 08:17:55 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7AA71274D0; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 08:17:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.523 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pmT_yh75W_VW; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 08:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-3.cisco.com (alln-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.142.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40326126DFF; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 08:17:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=893; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1498663064; x=1499872664; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=yvsC5zjAH2QEEqAOTpyuJ8veoMFYZ7IGmKa8vmgBUWQ=; b=KPpUQ+MdpGWh+DQbLtQOE0XBpT4gkbNVA/8lu2jq69cZ8khp9lEfCTuR 22OTXtUKGfu1IjRP4kZY9f8GCfaCy0+gGe771OwyiS/B1LpCWWHzhgwdu 9ugpAS8UbgvDLaKpVhFHSTazplklosC1Xfmt3lcAc0puYTVZzEMoWz3kM 0=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0APAgAtyFNZ/5FdJa1cGgEBAQECAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QgBAQEBgystgXifZpV6ghGGHAKDCUAXAQIBAQEBAQEBayiFGAEBAQECATo/BQs?= =?us-ascii?q?CAQg2EDIlAQEEAQ0NiiAIs2OLWgEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAR2DJ4NMg?= =?us-ascii?q?WGDJIpeAQSedAKTZYIThUqKQpUnASABNoEKdBWHXIkjAYEMAQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.40,276,1496102400"; d="scan'208";a="446476765" Received: from rcdn-core-9.cisco.com ([173.37.93.145]) by alln-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 28 Jun 2017 15:17:21 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-002.cisco.com (xch-rcd-002.cisco.com [173.37.102.12]) by rcdn-core-9.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v5SFHL4C006137 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 28 Jun 2017 15:17:21 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) by XCH-RCD-002.cisco.com (173.37.102.12) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1210.3; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 10:17:20 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) with mapi id 15.00.1210.000; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 10:17:20 -0500 From: "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" To: "TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org)" , "ccamp@ietf.org" , "pce@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" CC: "teas-chairs@ietf.org" , "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" Thread-Topic: Agenda for Joint Yang WG session in Prague Thread-Index: AdLvjgoSaBfnmsHxTqCqVsjaruTqnAAk39mQ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 15:17:20 +0000 Message-ID: References: <169daa25ca484ed1ad79f140cad6c250@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <169daa25ca484ed1ad79f140cad6c250@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [161.44.213.115] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] Agenda for Joint Yang WG session in Prague X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 15:17:46 -0000 A clarification on this: keep in mind that the joint session is intended to= provide a forum for raising YANG related issues or impacts that relate to = more than one of the participating WGs (PCE, CCAMP, MPLS, and TEAS). Simpl= e updates or single WG issues should be discussed in the respective WG sess= ion. Matt/Lou/Pavan > All, >=20 > Once again, we'll be having a joint Yang session. This time, TEAS is > hosting, which means I get to organize the agenda. >=20 > We're meeting at 13:30 - 15:30 on Thursday July 20th. Please send slot > requests for the TEAS session to me by the end of the day on Monday, July > 3rd (that's next week). Note that this is also the deadline for draft > submission. >=20 > We'll need slides for presentation by Friday, July 14th so that we can ge= t > them ready to present over the weekend. >=20 > Cheers >=20 > Matt/Lou/Pavan From nobody Wed Jun 28 08:42:02 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A7C129B31; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xE4Mb2VBjARL; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 08:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com (mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com [67.231.149.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 789A6129B2D; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 08:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0049295.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0049295.ppops.net-00191d01. 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Wed, 28 Jun 2017 11:41:27 -0400 From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" To: Stewart Bryant , Eric C Rosen , "rtg-dir@ietf.org" CC: "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-rfc3107bis.all@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-mpls-rfc3107bis-02 Thread-Index: AQHS74QoAMssEuxBKEqx1Vhwwt6bDqI6ftSAgAAJE4D//+Ft0A== Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 15:41:27 +0000 Message-ID: References: <149859539754.31085.2059230421371020521@ietfa.amsl.com> <3c405108-c18f-8f1b-b9e7-25d08157e1ee@juniper.net> <4f25a6b2-a912-ce02-819c-73c3b4ba9ced@g3ysx.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <4f25a6b2-a912-ce02-819c-73c3b4ba9ced@g3ysx.org.uk> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.16.234.232] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:, , definitions=2017-06-28_10:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_policy_notspam policy=outbound_policy score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 impostorscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1703280000 definitions=main-1706280253 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-mpls-rfc3107bis-02 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 15:41:54 -0000 SGkgU3Rld2FydCwgRXJpYywNCg0KTXVjaCB0aGFua3MgU3Rld2FydCBmb3IgdGhlIGNhcmVmdWwg cmV2aWV3IQ0KDQpJIHRoaW5rIHRoZSBoaWdoIGxldmVsIHN1bW1hcnkgaW4gdGhlIEludHJvZHVj dGlvbiBpcyBvay4gSSB3b3VsZCBvZiBtYWRlIHRoZSBpbnRybyBzZW50ZW5jZSBhIGJpdCBzdHJv bmdlciB0byBzYXkgdGhpcyBkb2N1bWVudCBvYnNvbGV0ZXMgaXQgdnMuICJlc3NlbnRpYWxseSBv YnNvbGV0ZXMiIGJ1dCB0aGF0J3MgYSBwcmVmZXJlbmNlIG9mIHN0eWxlIGFuZCBJIGRvbid0IHRo aW5rIHdlIG5lZWQgdG8gcmVzcGluIHRoZSBkb2N1bWVudCBhdCB0aGlzIHRpbWUuIEknbSBzdXJl IHdlIHdpbGwgaGF2ZSBtb3JlIGNvbW1lbnRzIGxhdGVyIGFuZCBjYW4gZGVjaWRlIHRvIHN0cm9u Z2VyIGNsYXJpZnkgd2l0aCB0aGUgbmV4dCByZXNwaW4uDQoNCkknbGwgc3RhcnQgdGhlIExhc3Qg Q2FsbC0NCkRlYm9yYWgNCg0KDQo+IC0tLS0tT3JpZ2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZS0tLS0tDQo+IEZyb206 IFN0ZXdhcnQgQnJ5YW50IFttYWlsdG86c3Rld2FydEBnM3lzeC5vcmcudWtdDQo+IFNlbnQ6IFdl ZG5lc2RheSwgSnVuZSAyOCwgMjAxNyA5OjI1IEFNDQo+IFRvOiBFcmljIEMgUm9zZW4gPGVyb3Nl bkBqdW5pcGVyLm5ldD47IHJ0Zy1kaXJAaWV0Zi5vcmcNCj4gQ2M6IG1wbHNAaWV0Zi5vcmc7IGRy YWZ0LWlldGYtbXBscy1yZmMzMTA3YmlzLmFsbEBpZXRmLm9yZzsgaWV0ZkBpZXRmLm9yZw0KPiBT dWJqZWN0OiBSZTogUnRnZGlyIGxhc3QgY2FsbCByZXZpZXcgb2YgZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi1tcGxzLXJm YzMxMDdiaXMtMDINCj4gDQo+IA0KPiANCj4gT24gMjgvMDYvMjAxNyAxMzo1MiwgRXJpYyBDIFJv c2VuIHdyb3RlOg0KPiA+IE9uIDYvMjcvMjAxNyA0OjI5IFBNLCBTdGV3YXJ0IEJyeWFudCB3cm90 ZToNCj4gPj4gSW4gdGhlIGludHJvZHVjdGlvbiBpdCBzYXlzOiAiSW4gW1JGQzMxMDddLCB0aGlz IGZlYXR1cmUgd2FzDQo+ID4+IGNvbnRyb2xsZWQgYnkgYQ0KPiA+PiBCR1AgQ2FwYWJpbGl0eSBD b2RlIHRoYXQgaGFzIG5ldmVyIGJlZW4gaW1wbGVtZW50ZWQsIGFuZCBpcyBub3cNCj4gPj4gZXNz ZW50aWFsbHkNCj4gPj4gb2Jzb2xldGUuIiB3aGljaCBsZWZ0IG1lIHdvbmRlcmluZyB3aGV0aGVy IHRoZXJlIHdhcyB0aGUgaW50ZW50aW9uIHRvDQo+ID4+IGZvcm1hbGx5DQo+ID4+IGRlcHJlY2F0 ZSB0aGUgZmVhdHVyZSB0aHJvdWdoIHRoZSBSRkMgc3lzdGVtLg0KPiA+DQo+ID4gVGhlIElBTkEg Y29uc2lkZXJhdGlvbiBzZWN0aW9uIG9mIHRoaXMgZG9jdW1lbnQgcmVxdWVzdHMgdGhhdCB0aGUN Cj4gPiAibXVsdGlwbGUgcm91dGVzIHRvIGEgZGVzdGluYXRpb24iIGNhcGFiaWxpdHkgY29kZSBi ZSBtYXJrZWQgYXMNCj4gPiBkZXByZWNhdGVkLCB3aXRoIGEgcmVmZXJlbmNlIHRvIHRoaXMgZG9j dW1lbnQuICBJc24ndCB0aGF0IHN1ZmZpY2llbnQ/DQo+ID4NCj4gDQo+IEhpIEVyaWMsDQo+IA0K PiBTb3JyeSBJIG1pc3NlZCB0aGF0Lg0KPiANCj4gSSBhbSBub3Qgc3VyZSBpZiB0aGUgc2FtZSBw cm90b2NvbCBhcHBsaWVzIHRvIElBTkEgY29kZXBvaW50cyBhcyBSRkNzLA0KPiBidXQgaWYgeW91 IHdlcmUgb2Jzb2xldGluZyBhbiBSRkMgaXQgd291bGQgbmVlZCB0byBiZSBub3RlZCBpbiB0aGUN Cj4gYWJzdHJhY3QgYW5kIHRoZSBpbnRyb2R1Y3Rpb24uDQo+IA0KPiBJZiB5b3UgZG8gYSByZXNw aW4gaXQgbWlnaHQgYmUgYmV0dGVyIHRvIG5vdGUgdGhlIGRlcHJlY2F0aW9uIG5lYXIgdGhlDQo+ IHRleHQgb24gb2Jzb2xlc2NlbmNlLCBzaW5jZSBwZW9wbGUgdGVuZCB0byByZWFkIHRoZSBtYWlu IHRleHQgYW5kIG5vdA0KPiB0aGUgSUFOQSBzZWN0aW9uLiBIb3dldmVyIGF0IHRoZSBlbmQgb2Yg dGhlIGRheSBpdCBpcyB1cCB0byB0aGUgQUQgaG93DQo+IHRoZXkgd2FudCB0byBoYW5kbGUgdGhp cy4NCj4gDQo+IC0gU3Rld2FydA0K From nobody Wed Jun 28 08:43:15 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF50129B2D; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 08:43:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: mpls@ietf.org, db3546@att.com, The IESG , mpls-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-mpls-tp-aps-updates@ietf.org, Loa Andersson , rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, loa@pi.nu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <149866458711.7677.17710530093360033464.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 08:43:07 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Protocol Action: 'Updates to MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) Linear Protection in Automatic Protection Switching (APS) Mode' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-mpls-tp-aps-updates-04.txt) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 15:43:07 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Updates to MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) Linear Protection in Automatic Protection Switching (APS) Mode' (draft-ietf-mpls-tp-aps-updates-04.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Alia Atlas and Deborah Brungard. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-tp-aps-updates/ Technical Summary The document contains updates to MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) linear protection in Automatic Protection Switching (APS) mode defined in RFC 7271. The updates provide rules related to the initialization of the Protection State Coordination (PSC) Control Logic. When PSC operates in APS mode, the state machine is part of the control logic. The document also clarifies some operations related to state transition table lookup. Working Group Summary The interest in MPLS-TP is slightly waning, however there is a rather strong group within the working group working on the last MPLS-TP documents. The MPLS WG is also committed to complete the MPLS-TP project. This document has been greatly improved in the reviews during the working group process. Document Quality We know of a several vendors that intend to implement this specification, we actually expect every implementor that did implement RFC 7271 to implement. Several vendors have said that they will implement "as soon as it is an RFC". Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Loa Andersson Who is the Responsible Area Director? Deborah Brungard From nobody Wed Jun 28 09:05:08 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E2F129B65; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 09:05:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk CC: draft-ietf-mpls-rfc3107bis@ietf.org, db3546@att.com, mpls@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@ietf.org, Loa Andersson , loa@pi.nu Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <149866590191.7678.15474613019732685740.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 09:05:01 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Last Call: (Using BGP to Bind MPLS Labels to Address Prefixes) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:05:02 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG (mpls) to consider the following document: - 'Using BGP to Bind MPLS Labels to Address Prefixes' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2017-07-12. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document specifies a set of procedures for using BGP to advertise that a specified router has bound a specified MPLS label (or a specified sequence of MPLS labels, organized as a contiguous part of a label stack) to a specified address prefix. This can be done by sending a BGP UPDATE message whose Network Layer Reachability Information field contains both the prefix and the MPLS label(s), and whose Next Hop field identifies the node at which said prefix is bound to said label(s). This document obsoletes RFC 3107. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-rfc3107bis/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-rfc3107bis/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From nobody Wed Jun 28 09:21:06 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C7F129B51; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 09:21:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: mpls@ietf.org, db3546@att.com, The IESG , mpls-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, loa@pi.nu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <149866686488.7677.16042476826061015879.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 09:21:04 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Protocol Action: 'Application-aware Targeted LDP' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-09.txt) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:21:05 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Application-aware Targeted LDP' (draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp-09.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Alia Atlas and Deborah Brungard. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-app-aware-tldp/ Technical Summary Some tLDP applications e.g. remote loop-free alternate (LFA) and BGP auto discovered pseudowires may establish a tLDP session to any LSR in a network. The LSR that initializes such a session has enough information to administratively control initiation of the session. The targetted LSR normally does not have the information necessary to control acceptance of the requested session. This document defines a mechanism to advertise and negotiate Targeted Applications Capability (TAC) during LDP session initialization. The targetted LSR is made aware of targeted applications through the TAC information. When this happens it can establish a limited number of tLDP sessions for certain applications. In addition, each targeted application is mapped to LDP Forwarding Equivalence Class (FEC) Elements to advertise only necessary LDP FEC-label bindings over the session. Working Group Summary The WG process for this document has been fairly normal, and the working agreed that this is a necessary extension to LDP for some applications. Discussion has been targeted on resolving a small number of outstanding issues. The consensus in the working was good. Document Quality We are aware of several intentions to implement this specification. An implementation poll has been sent to the working group and as further information is received, the write-up will be updated. No expert review outside the working group is necessary. Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Loa Andersson Who is the Responsible Area Director? 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[213.123.124.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 143sm6803956wmo.11.2017.06.28.09.59.56 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 28 Jun 2017 09:59:56 -0700 (PDT) To: Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" Cc: draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework@ietf.org, "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" References: <14c7b495-b3ce-8f81-d7ef-7abc33424acb@pi.nu> <7c94727d-653c-3220-d449-f3df29feabb7@pi.nu> From: Stewart Bryant Message-ID: <084299c9-ed79-994b-c013-86e68dab8a72@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:59:54 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7c94727d-653c-3220-d449-f3df29feabb7@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:00:01 -0000 The only IPR I am aware of is the IPR that has already been declared. - Stewart On 28/06/2017 11:35, Loa Andersson wrote: > > Working Group, authors, > > We have started to prepare the the draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework for > working group adoption, prior to the wgap we need to do an IPR poll. > > This mail starts this IPR poll. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework? 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Regards, Greg On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:35 AM, Loa Andersson wrote: > > Working Group, authors, > > We have started to prepare the the draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework for > working group adoption, prior to the wgap we need to do an IPR poll. > > This mail starts this IPR poll. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > There are two IPR disclosures against draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS WG mailing list.* The > document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been > received from each author and contributor. > > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > > /Loa > mpls wg co-chair > > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com > Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu > Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > --f403043622c07c2f32055308d152 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Loa,
I'm not aware of any IPR other than IPR th= at already has been disclosed.

Regards,
= Greg

O= n Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:35 AM, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
=

Working Group, authors,

We have started to prepare the the draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework for=
working group adoption, prior to the wgap we need to do an IPR poll.

This mail starts this IPR poll.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

There are two IPR disclosures against draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework.=

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS WG mailing list.* The
document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been
received from each author and contributor.

If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.


/Loa
=C2=A0mpls wg co-chair

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Senior MPLS Expert=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 loa@pi.nu
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--f403043622c07c2f32055308d152-- From nobody Wed Jun 28 11:27:07 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A80F12EABD; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 11:26:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2CSrOpvaYmYG; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 11:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pg0-x236.google.com (mail-pg0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c05::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B568124D6C; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 11:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pg0-x236.google.com with SMTP id u62so35619561pgb.3; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 11:26:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=m6dsZ4qGYo8ZFqOGe5RQorx9Ysy+77k13V7l4vCxFfY=; b=moFCLadjqZcChqxN9e4Iuk0NhZx03Eu23BK9gV7RQwyvRypcPLoZ8BfE57K3DXjDMV T4WZ8Mc13pOo4CloS0ISBrRY0hLovb1mLalI3ToOwiF1/Q2Y0SNzwi6TNaWsphIIQ2ln D4gwRfO6zIovfpO2XdJy1ZUY2CoqzHCBZVzNODSG4+M6PUoGRJwmFuqmIADI+2CDuW6H n6AOE/948std0zHBEin2AgD3Tw2Dud7tFablXwZryAlfpt/R8bUYXdfzNuSQsxY2msUc 9/vp4v6K3HiK3WwCqZn86rmPRCRg80PiibwHPHc7yuTGwE24znCKswjA3rztM6mQDPeB 27/Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=m6dsZ4qGYo8ZFqOGe5RQorx9Ysy+77k13V7l4vCxFfY=; b=MPaR6ml7lBItxjm5zQrtB4qFmrzhKaJms3EM4ubZmOMjzfUOLcfdKNKDIWAqzyjyNS rV6mk0bQGsaOt4WlpnREDGLIzwtQFEaT6y7//bKBMt2VKzZu4C2/AjMVqMi2Y4SKy6w8 i2ERSgdTk+ZS7gDrrzwbSPSCUqw40FQHYMVARFPWkxuugcd4bZFlKnHb97Q17va/pmes 9flwgQYo8g/GPD/eCmk3rOBUo8lW1Dogpu00ys4rO5+FHHfKYI7FdCwgXX3tfJR3Nbd7 p1XX3ZQuU7iyocqapSTVlxbUs4W8N7r4WCMkjoNBMqlw/fS4BzVDek+Ex97XiScbRgzq u0sQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOzvXhXpZ75afq4woA5dvf9KSzUvxQ5qAAJArpexQreXOaglQc0u uHSEgc6tpgtm6eRtBNWF6/tQRXc4VQ== X-Received: by 10.84.128.67 with SMTP id 61mr13723310pla.246.1498674416015; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 11:26:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.163.236 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 11:26:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <149867388303.7659.15017194825402644385.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <149867388303.7659.15017194825402644385.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Greg Mirsky Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 11:26:55 -0700 Message-ID: To: "mpls@ietf.org" , "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" , BESS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c124e9e335cf90553095489" Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-mirsky-mpls-p2mp-bfd-01.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 18:27:00 -0000 --94eb2c124e9e335cf90553095489 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear All, the draft considers use of p2mp BFD, a.k.a. BFD for multipoint networks, to MPLS network. One of use cases - monitoring p2mp MPLS LSP to distribute EVPN BUM traffic. Appreciate your comments, questions, suggestions. Regards, Greg ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 11:18 AM Subject: New Version Notification for draft-mirsky-mpls-p2mp-bfd-01.txt To: Gregory Mirsky A new version of I-D, draft-mirsky-mpls-p2mp-bfd-01.txt has been successfully submitted by Greg Mirsky and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-mirsky-mpls-p2mp-bfd Revision: 01 Title: BFD for Multipoint Networks over Point-to-Multi-Point MPLS LSP Document date: 2017-06-28 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 6 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mirsky-mpls-p2mp- bfd-01.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mirsky-mpls-p2mp-bfd/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mirsky-mpls-p2mp-bfd-01 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-mirsky-mpls- p2mp-bfd-01 Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-mirsky-mpls-p2mp- bfd-01 Abstract: This document describes procedures for using Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) for multipoint networks to detect data plane failures in Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) point-to-multipoint (p2mp) Label Switched Paths (LSPs). It also describes applicability of out- band solutions to bootstrap a BFD session in this environment. 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Dear All,
the draft considers use of p2mp BFD, a.k.a. = BFD for multipoint networks, to MPLS network. One of use cases - monitoring= p2mp MPLS LSP to distribute EVPN BUM traffic.

App= reciate your comments, questions, suggestions.

Reg= ards,
Greg

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Date: Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 11:18 A= M
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Name:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft-mirsky-mpls-p2mp-bfd Revision:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A001
Title:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BFD for Multipoint Networks over P= oint-to-Multi-Point MPLS LSP
Document date:=C2=A0 2017-06-28
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URL:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mirsky-mpls= -p2mp-bfd-01.txt
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Diff:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-mirsky-mpls-p2mp= -bfd-01

Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document describes procedures for using Bidirectional For= warding
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Detection (BFD) for multipoint networks to detect data plane f= ailures
=C2=A0 =C2=A0in Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) point-to-multipoint (p= 2mp)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Label Switched Paths (LSPs).=C2=A0 It also describes applicabi= lity of out-
=C2=A0 =C2=A0band solutions to bootstrap a BFD session in this environment.=




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The draft discusses use of BFD in Demand mode over p2p MPLS LSP. Your comments, questions, and suggestions are always welcome and greatly appreciated. Regards, Greg ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 12:05 PM Subject: New Version Notification for draft-mirsky-bfd-mpls-demand-01.txt To: Gregory Mirsky A new version of I-D, draft-mirsky-bfd-mpls-demand-01.txt has been successfully submitted by Greg Mirsky and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-mirsky-bfd-mpls-demand Revision: 01 Title: BFD in Demand Mode over Point-to-Point MPLS LSP Document date: 2017-06-28 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 5 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mirsky-bfd-mpls-d emand-01.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mirsky-bfd-mpls-dema nd/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mirsky-bfd-mpls-demand-01 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-mirsky-bfd-mpls -demand-01 Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-mirsky-bfd-mpls-dem and-01 Abstract: This document describes procedures for using Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) in Demand mode to detect data plane failures in Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) point-to-point Label Switched Paths. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Dear All,
the update addresses comment from Mankamana = Mishra.
The draft discusses use of BFD in Demand mode over p2p MP= LS LSP.
Your comments, questions, and suggestions are always welc= ome and greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Gr= eg

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Date: Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 12:05 PM
Subjec= t: New Version Notification for draft-mirsky-bfd-mpls-demand-01.txtTo: Gregory Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>



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Name:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft-mirsky-bfd-mpls-demand<= br> Revision:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A001
Title:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BFD in Demand Mode over Point-to-P= oint MPLS LSP
Document date:=C2=A0 2017-06-28
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URL:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mirsky-bf= d-mpls-demand-01.txt
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Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document describes procedures for using Bidirectional For= warding
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Detection (BFD) in Demand mode to detect data plane failures i= n
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) point-to-point Label Swit= ched
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Paths.




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[74.78.156.29]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q70sm651239itb.1.2017.06.30.13.52.29 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Jun 2017 13:52:29 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: George Swallow X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14F89) In-Reply-To: <084299c9-ed79-994b-c013-86e68dab8a72@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:52:27 -0400 Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework@ietf.org, "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , Stewart Bryant Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <60F1BA8D-95DB-4EC6-B147-5EE95050D8D1@gmail.com> References: <14c7b495-b3ce-8f81-d7ef-7abc33424acb@pi.nu> <7c94727d-653c-3220-d449-f3df29feabb7@pi.nu> <084299c9-ed79-994b-c013-86e68dab8a72@gmail.com> To: Loa Andersson Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 20:52:33 -0000 The previously disclosed IPR is all that I am aware of. George=20 > On Jun 28, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Stewart Bryant wr= ote: >=20 > The only IPR I am aware of is the IPR that has already been declared. >=20 > - Stewart >=20 >=20 >> On 28/06/2017 11:35, Loa Andersson wrote: >>=20 >> Working Group, authors, >>=20 >> We have started to prepare the the draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework for >> working group adoption, prior to the wgap we need to do an IPR poll. >>=20 >> This mail starts this IPR poll. >>=20 >> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework?= >>=20 >> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >>=20 >> There are two IPR disclosures against draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework. >>=20 >> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to >> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant >> IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS WG mailing list.* The >> document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been >> received from each author and contributor. >>=20 >> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or >> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any >> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >>=20 >>=20 >> /Loa >> mpls wg co-chair >>=20 >=20 From nobody Fri Jun 30 14:04:23 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B11129B66; Fri, 30 Jun 2017 14:04:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ib-Twyy-hHhQ; Fri, 30 Jun 2017 14:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it0-x241.google.com (mail-it0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C83812741D; Fri, 30 Jun 2017 14:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it0-x241.google.com with SMTP id 188so4491201itx.0; Fri, 30 Jun 2017 14:04:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=X6unkacPaSUTP5Lh+4mTBHlTMQLdbxfogd553DhHJC8=; b=IXQfGub4FdgUGbPYLIu7N197uwCAjKfV2kPRzeSOZBn1d4fL0TanaQJIqm9GCL/1W0 IhKpmg5q4ojGkTYcfsh4O+C2fKn2xYux7CQ96nhsu9cfnyHr1pvI9OkTr64AwCsx57XM 3iGFfY3u9o0xFIvnK74dGclxJ9Als9RZxsMNqQe74utc481sbyqU8DX1ZIAdIYslhX7n w+3C/VlbcsrX0MWo2Y715u4SWeRSHUo6Ce/2URhfLoD6fJRg5SPmSXtrWCJb5Ov0UAf7 ZtblFix0m2OEf3oXSw+rgZdJdqhbG6wMSPtgiwJ5QHg01I1j7nygTuDxB2O0lmB/saYF pK9Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=X6unkacPaSUTP5Lh+4mTBHlTMQLdbxfogd553DhHJC8=; b=A2S/3n9W0wnNmfwrXsTNm0xJaxmD1cma3O1scqPo3H/ihP2e9G/x2xU2F85aCMeFsb gbBD9TOFL3PPmqyaSarTq+4+7D5EA7DmntZcRp7cIrEllkHSOUC8y5u3u7MfHBOE5D0p zNzqGcm0/qaLnoTeubtsz8S84qdRBWSASNIgVoNDwVFXdHiWpoxhpSM8VeypF3nzOt5X xGe3okPTRN0BdjA8vxs2PtQDxYwl32SNxeprdpA02podVSvKNvxS/Eo5m6rqUxH/XtdY NGDIidtwUBQc5SOJmMMfyVF2Lj1dE0E7caRry2NSO3NZmwKhQQu/RDPwCB78j17uFPW8 kw5A== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw110e8f6yU765dr8Iklhx25r4wL0FSTEILeIOLxY4rbHC/nES8/eK FEk+/fbwWNa9Mg== X-Received: by 10.36.88.196 with SMTP id f187mr9342381itb.86.1498856659928; Fri, 30 Jun 2017 14:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (cpe-74-78-156-29.maine.res.rr.com. [74.78.156.29]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 125sm6642666itz.7.2017.06.30.14.04.19 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Jun 2017 14:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: George Swallow X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14F89) In-Reply-To: <084299c9-ed79-994b-c013-86e68dab8a72@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 17:04:18 -0400 Cc: Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" , draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework@ietf.org, "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <541499F5-7241-48EF-9A1B-CF033D4EA771@gmail.com> References: <14c7b495-b3ce-8f81-d7ef-7abc33424acb@pi.nu> <7c94727d-653c-3220-d449-f3df29feabb7@pi.nu> <084299c9-ed79-994b-c013-86e68dab8a72@gmail.com> To: Stewart Bryant Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 21:04:22 -0000 I am not aware of any IPR on the subject draft.=20 George=20 > On Jun 28, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Stewart Bryant wr= ote: >=20 > The only IPR I am aware of is the IPR that has already been declared. >=20 > - Stewart >=20 >=20 >> On 28/06/2017 11:35, Loa Andersson wrote: >>=20 >> Working Group, authors, >>=20 >> We have started to prepare the the draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework for >> working group adoption, prior to the wgap we need to do an IPR poll. >>=20 >> This mail starts this IPR poll. >>=20 >> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework?= >>=20 >> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >>=20 >> There are two IPR disclosures against draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-framework. >>=20 >> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to >> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant >> IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS WG mailing list.* The >> document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been >> received from each author and contributor. >>=20 >> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or >> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any >> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >>=20 >>=20 >> /Loa >> mpls wg co-chair >>=20 >=20