From nobody Thu Aug 1 14:44:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA20E1201F3; Thu, 1 Aug 2019 14:44:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.99.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: mpls@ietf.org, db3546@att.com, The IESG , draft-ietf-mpls-egress-protection-framework@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@ietf.org, Loa Andersson , rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, loa@pi.nu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <156469587188.19293.9453655719421989652.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2019 14:44:31 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Protocol Action: 'MPLS Egress Protection Framework' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-mpls-egress-protection-framework-07.txt) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2019 21:44:32 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'MPLS Egress Protection Framework' (draft-ietf-mpls-egress-protection-framework-07.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Martin Vigoureux and Deborah Brungard. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-egress-protection-framework/ Technical Summary This document specifies a fast reroute framework for protecting IP/ MPLS services and MPLS transport tunnels against egress node and egress link failures. For each type of egress failure, it defines the roles of point of local repair (PLR), protector, and backup egress router, and the procedures of establishing a bypass tunnel from a PLR to a protector. It describes the behaviors of these routers in handling an egress failure, including local repair on the PLR, and context based forwarding on the protector. The framework can be used to develop egress protection mechanisms to reduce traffic loss before global repair reacts to an egress failure and control plane protocols converge on the topology changes due to the egress failure. Working Group Summary This document is the convergence of several initiatives in the IETF and in the industry in general. The working group and more specifically the authors have invested a huge effort to converge on a single solution. Document Quality Aware of both implementations and deployments, as informed by one major European vendor. We have in addition started an Implementation Poll and the write-up will be updated as soon as more information is available. Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Loa Andersson Who is the Responsible Area Director? Deborah Brungard From nobody Fri Aug 2 13:05:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E7712014F; Fri, 2 Aug 2019 13:05:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org, ipr-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.99.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <156477631271.20878.9664038556278474804@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 13:05:12 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] IPR Disclosure Juniper's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 20:05:13 -0000 Dear Chandrasekar R, Tarek Saad, Ina Minei, Dante Pacella: An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "Refresh-interval Independent FRR Facility Protection" (draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3671/). The title of the IPR disclosure is "Juniper's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr" Thank you IETF Secretariat From nobody Fri Aug 2 13:10:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A12C1207EB; Fri, 2 Aug 2019 13:10:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org, ipr-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.99.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <156477661853.20865.7438001889326400960@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 13:10:18 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] IPR Disclosure Juniper's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 20:10:22 -0000 Dear Chandrasekar R, Tarek Saad, Ina Minei, Dante Pacella: An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "Refresh-interval Independent FRR Facility Protection" (draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3672/). The title of the IPR disclosure is "Juniper's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr" Thank you IETF Secretariat From nobody Fri Aug 2 14:05:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED667120147; Fri, 2 Aug 2019 14:04:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Kyle Rose via Datatracker To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification.all@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.99.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Kyle Rose Message-ID: <156477989693.20922.10639864462240787352@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:04:56 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-02 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 21:04:57 -0000 Reviewer: Kyle Rose Review result: Ready I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area directors. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like any other last call comments. This document is a straightforward update for implementation clarity and has neither security nor privacy implications. From nobody Mon Aug 5 05:26:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8762312015B; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 05:25:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Roman Danyliw via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification@ietf.org, Loa Andersson , mpls-chairs@ietf.org, loa@pi.nu, mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.99.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Roman Danyliw Message-ID: <156500795454.24520.16742493473141475413.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2019 05:25:54 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-02: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2019 12:25:55 -0000 Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-02: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ** Section 4, per “The figures in section 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3 of [RFC8287] are replaced by the below figures in section 4.1, 4.2 and 4.3 respectively”: -- none of the diagram in Section 4.1, 4.2 or 4.3 are explicitly labeled as figures -- section 4.3 contains two “figures” (one is called a table in the text and the other has no designation). Which one of these is supposed to be a replacement for RFC8287 Section 5.3? ** Section 4.3. Assuming that the second figure is the replacement for RFC8287’s Section 5.3 figure, the length is still confusing to me. The figure in this draft appears to be a specific instance of the populated Sub-TLV. The existing figure in RFC8287 appears to be a generic depiction. The new figure doesn’t appear to be relevant (or presented incorrect information) if Adj Type = 1 and Protocol = 1 (for example). ** Section 4.3. Typo. s/Protocol =0/Protocol = 0/ ** Section 6. Recommend clarifying that there are no additional security considerations (not that there aren’t any). s/This document updates [RFC8287] and does not introduce any security considerations/This document updates [RFC8287] and does not introduce any additional security considerations/ From nobody Mon Aug 5 06:03:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908331201CA; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 06:03:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ccxKlSYI25kH; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 06:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta8.iomartmail.com (mta8.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.158]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AEC07120072; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 06:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (vs2.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.123]) by mta8.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x75D39G2029566; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 14:03:09 +0100 Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CE12204C; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 14:03:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.248]) by vs2.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F5E92204A; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 14:03:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V ([87.112.55.143]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x75D37kY022780 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Aug 2019 14:03:08 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Cc: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 14:03:06 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <043501d54b8e$20638550$612a8ff0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AdVLjbb3tN2/RbTZTD2eyB4cjyhJjA== Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 87.112.55.143 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-24822.007 X-TM-AS-Result: No--8.922-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--8.922-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-24822.007 X-TMASE-Result: 10--8.921700-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: YeFRLOJIG73xIbpQ8BhdbE7yqWc5cVLPpQH4ogtVQP2rTXaRa2V3fF72 1f1Z1L9KBha/rZwVYuLV4FVLqRYLmcmr2UMHchiZ8Jb881FGn9n4h+uI7dxXxBLf1vz7ecPHyYf oFmd9ELiJKSS7TbEZCWJwCsb/Z8alTX7PJ/OU3vL+xOhjarOnHlOrNp5VU581+gtHj7OwNO2Ohz Oa6g8KrRoFEL7fxmy/Uth4J3YryhBmxEvUVSC3YnTB6udBUMecjpq09Ym1SQk= X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-andersson-lsp-ping-registries-update X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2019 13:03:17 -0000 Hi authors, As we progress draft-andersson-lsp-ping-registries-update, could you please confirm (on the mailing list) whether you know of any applicable IPR that needs to be disclosed consistent with the IETF's IPR policies. Suitable responses are: - No, I'm not aware of any IPR that needs to be disclosed - Yes, I'm aware of IPR and it has already been disclosed - Yes, I'm aware of IPR and I will ensure that it is disclosed in a timely manner Thanks, Adrian From nobody Mon Aug 5 06:33:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9471201EA; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 06:33:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X4XDADpgBuyG; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 06:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta8.iomartmail.com (mta8.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.158]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75B561201E5; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 06:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (vs2.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.123]) by mta8.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x75DXAT1018523; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 14:33:10 +0100 Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C8822044; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 14:33:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.248]) by vs2.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E9B422048; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 14:33:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V ([87.112.55.143]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x75DX7j3000955 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Aug 2019 14:33:09 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Cc: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 14:33:06 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <043801d54b92$51f903c0$f5eb0b40$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AdVLjjGivUPFuwjGRwuUfKfdJIKVuQ== Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 87.112.55.143 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-24822.007 X-TM-AS-Result: No--13.420-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--13.420-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-24822.007 X-TMASE-Result: 10--13.419900-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: FXGKkZg/B/H5uyvfNjfPT3FPUrVDm6jtS/ceBQrgS1FQKAQSutQYXG0L QpmjB9pj21BHKSeoeV4Qnem4O36k5DZxjkmratY+4h8r8l3l4eYiJN3aXuV/obiBTLMkgNsWIN/ MbXxx+S10Q3kLI5lkfACeNsrtHscC3uvoBt9Zrdy20BbG4zmyXpeDTKy+kyH7S411xkMup5Qo+d 2hAeagywXhqtaGWOL/rtM5xoxNNOO433sKec1LAfRUId35VCIe6/ovm5YGTGm8NrbzjPvzJ7mhV mie+sctIjXKhrGfOKcOjHEoV3dzamgRF+KXsXmMUL+lPXRaPqn9EfbuxTfAPYe/yi1B5QhCaoL2 VZYlMZxG+fINELXoh6ORQRr7tR1qYXy1htRbB/CL6q5RsNhv5MtEPnVvPlFkDJinLlDjjHMuhqj QrfAzpVQSf2wR7z3QSasvmwdPPMHtCUBQ/BGX6wm6mWzI013HbhfjcETuo7RXPwnnY5XL5Hd7bc i/LVuNUjwC4PXX8BpicArG/2fGpU1+zyfzlN7y/sToY2qzpx4rN8z0HohG3voLR4+zsDTt+Tf0t cxKuLpa5u2NVJuap3gCu90kT31zLBJRhqwmC1sa66hcTnOLvA== X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Shepherd's pre-adoption-poll review of draft-andersson-lsp-ping-registries-update X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2019 13:33:14 -0000 Hi authors, I'm the designated driver for your draft. I know this is not last call, but there are a couple of things I think you should sort out before we go for adoption. --- This document needs to be Standards Track: it updates two existing Standards Track documents. --- Idnits points out... > -- The draft header indicates that this document updates RFC8029, but the > abstract doesn't seem to mention this, which it should. > > -- The draft header indicates that this document updates RFC8611, but the > abstract doesn't seem to mention this, which it should. Easy fix such as... OLD This document updates some registries in the LSP Ping IANA name space. The updates are mostly for clarification and to align this registry with recent developments. NEW This document updates RFC 8029 and RFC 8611 that define IANA registries for MPLS LSP Ping. The updates are mostly for clarification and to align this registry with recent developments. END --- Section 1 doesn't mention 8611, and it should. It should also make the "updates 8029" statement. OLD When RFC 8029 [RFC8029] where published it contained among other things updates to the "Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Paths (LSPs) Ping Parameters" IANA name space [IANA-LSP-PING]. The LSP Ping IANA registries were partly updated to match RFC 8029, but the there were some ambiguity in the RFC, that were reflected in the registries. This document updates two groups of registries. NEW When RFC 8029 [RFC8029] where published it contained among other things updates to the "Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Paths (LSPs) Ping Parameters" IANA name space [IANA-LSP-PING]. RFC 8126 [RFC8126] updated the LSP Ping IANA registries to match RFC 8029, but there were still some ambiguities, that were reflected in the registries. This document updates [RFC8029] and [RFC8126] by updating two groups of registries. END --- Section 3. Not sure of the value of describing how the registry is now. Anyone who cares (while reviewing the document) can look at the registries themselves. And once this becomes an RFC, all you care about is the description of how the registry is rebuilt. (You don't have to make this change now). --- 3.1 has IETF does not prescribe how the Experimental Use and Private Use sub- TLVs are handled; however, if a packet containing a sub-TLV from the Experimental Use or Private Use ranges is received by an LSR that does not recognize the sub-TLV, an error message MAY be returned if the sub-TLV is from the range 31744-32767, and the packet SHOULD be silently dropped if it is from the range 64512-65535. Is this a new normative definition of implementation behaviour? If so, this document is doing more than updating the registries. That would be OK, but you'd need to say so up front. If this is simply a restatement of established fact, then perhaps you don't need to say it here, but could use a reference. And then you wouldn't need section 1.1. --- Some text in Section 4 will be needed, but you can leave that for later if you like. --- I think the appendix text should be moved into Section 5. Appendices are usually non-normative. --- Thanks, Adrian From nobody Mon Aug 5 07:48:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75622120230; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 07:48:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QvuDKlcmJn9N; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 07:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta8.iomartmail.com (mta8.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.158]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A086F12022C; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 07:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (vs2.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.123]) by mta8.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x75EmCTi004753; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 15:48:14 +0100 Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E99322073; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 15:48:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.224]) by vs2.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B8E6220FA; Mon, 5 Aug 2019 15:47:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V ([87.112.55.143]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x75El0ax014828 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Aug 2019 15:47:00 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Loa Andersson'" , Cc: , References: <32b8812e-612f-ad46-5d7f-8a388e380680@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <32b8812e-612f-ad46-5d7f-8a388e380680@pi.nu> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 15:46:59 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <044801d54b9c$a309fda0$e91df8e0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQILzu4c0kox5ZLU+XvtdUsedrO9IaZ/iYwQ Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 87.112.55.143 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-24824.000 X-TM-AS-Result: No--25.437-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--25.437-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-24824.000 X-TMASE-Result: 10--25.436800-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: H0/uSqZo4D6WfDtBOz4q23FPUrVDm6jtS/ceBQrgS1GnRvssirgAK1bT tJpG9MBBacAE0BXYlcvos7IkKKuHv2MFwILfD7Ygkr0W/BDHWEXg02I3oyGU8Dt7ZjJPAVIiQbN TsIpfWx100u7RRzZGJSHLV9tiezQQkIURhdJWezuqNnzrkU+2mky2QelP2Gj6dNfwwV0Dnr74eY E/JF5KDK/vNCEa2eMJ22Kl3jXtGB9H4UfwjA8Kge5b8GtgkaX9B4Id7CiQcz9s98Z8fG/6kXGaI 3obawWA7Bcpk9b8c2UDTO7t0MJ81Xw/Myj5kX8jqSG7nd+vxDcO9z+P2gwiBS/viQPfOXgnVkEH zL0JqHPKwCMHWrmfRNHsFnkoty1Jpr9mIV4enT71WO1NzV/CYFHewY36PuY0hgn72LMkncpNLIM 9jwUeZ684CEZJnIyVU6WsjEEjHBHGuitb2uBRc/7kh4czHCCaqV3VmuIFNEvWXfwzppZ8SI+04h OwZfJRufn6f1qEnWl0xfeV4aF6gN5bQ01TbK1/qa6SJk58+LZd811WB7wXJ3QRKyUJW+vLtNfew smJeFYZw5ucm3NLWsuT6pyURQPh5UcZtwNsCro5f9Xw/xqKXcidYBYDjITpi2QFaYS1v20qtq5d 3cxkNQwWxr7XDKH8lExlQIQeRG0= X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] please review and comment on draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-00 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2019 14:48:20 -0000 Hi Loa, I guess all authors should review their own work! Idnits says... > -- The draft header indicates that this document updates RFC3032, but the > abstract doesn't seem to mention this, which it should. > > -- The draft header indicates that this document updates RFC7274, but the > abstract doesn't seem to mention this, which it should. The Abstract also has notes that we should now remove. So... OLD This document discusses and recommends a terminology that may be used when MPLS Special Purpose Labels (SPL) are specified and documented. Note: The rest of the text in this section is not really part of the abstract even though the text is placed here. It is working notes. Note: At least at the moment it is not the intention to take this document to an RFC, but it might be polled to become a wg document to see if the MPLS working group agree on the proposed terminology. Note: The changes we propose are minor, but we might have to progress the document to RFC since there is a proposed change to the "Special- Purpose Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label Values" registry. NEW This document discusses and recommends a terminology that may be used when MPLS Special Purpose Labels (SPL) are specified and documented. This document updates RFC 3032 and RFC 7274 by clarifying and refining The terminology that those documents define. It does not make any Changes to on-wire formats or the behaviour of implementations. END --- Section 1 OLD RFC 7274 [RFC7274] made some changes to the terminology used for MPLS Special Purpose Labels, but did not define consistent terminology. NEW RFC 7274 [RFC7274] made some changes to the terminology used for MPLS Special Purpose Labels, labels 0-15 as originally defined in RFC 3032 [RFC3032], but did not define consistent terminology. END --- Section 1 OLD One thing that RFC 7274 did was to deprecate use use of the term "reserved labels" NEW One thing that RFC 7274 did was to deprecate use of the term "reserved labels" [RFC3032] END --- Section 1 OLD At the time of posting this Internet-Draft, the IETF is in the process of allocating the very first SPLs from the Extended SPL range [I-D.ietf-mpls-sfc]. NEW The first SPL from the Extended SPL range was allocated for RFC 8595 [RFC8595]. END --- Section 1 Add a final paragraph... This document updates RFC 3032 and RFC 7274 by clarifying and refining The terminology that those documents define. It does not make any Changes to on-wire formats or the behaviour of implementations. --- Thanks, Adrian -----Original Message----- From: mpls On Behalf Of Loa Andersson Sent: 15 July 2019 08:05 To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] please review and comment on draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-00 Folks, About a week ago we posted the first working group version of draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology. Please read and comment. Please send comments to the mpls wg mailing list. The authors think that the draft is stable and plan to request wglc after the f2f meeting in Montreal. /Loa fior the co-authors -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Tue Aug 6 12:11:01 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F466120059; Tue, 6 Aug 2019 12:10:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alissa Cooper via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification@ietf.org, Loa Andersson , mpls-chairs@ietf.org, loa@pi.nu, mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.100.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Alissa Cooper Message-ID: <156511865364.27327.13090017747855847745.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2019 12:10:53 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-02: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2019 19:10:54 -0000 Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-02: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Gen-ART reviewer caught this error which seems important to fix: Figure of Section 4.2: Type = 35 (IPv4 IGP-Prefix SID) ---> Type = 35 (IPv6 IGP-Prefix SID) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Please respond to the rest of the Gen-ART review. 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I entered a DISCUSS ballot to get the = figure fixed in Section 4.2. Alissa > On Jul 30, 2019, at 8:11 AM, Ines Robles via Datatracker = wrote: >=20 > Reviewer: Ines Robles > Review result: Ready with Issues >=20 > I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area > Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed > by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just > like any other last call comments. >=20 > For more information, please see the FAQ at >=20 > . >=20 > Document: draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-02 > Reviewer: Ines Robles > Review Date: 2019-07-30 > IETF LC End Date: 2019-07-31 > IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat >=20 > Summary: >=20 > I believe the draft is technically good. This document is well = written. >=20 > The document updates RFC8287 by clarifying the length for the = following Segment > ID Sub-TLVs: IPv4 IGP-Prefix Segment ID Sub-TLV, IPv6 IGP-Prefix = Segment ID > Sub-TLV and IGP-Adjacency Segment ID Sub-TLV. >=20 > There are some minor issues detailed below that should be addressed. >=20 > Major issues: Not found >=20 > Minor issues: >=20 > 1- Section 3 - Requirements notation is not complete, it should be = added: "NOT > RECOMMENDED" and "...are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 = [RFC2119] > [RFC8174] when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown = here." >=20 > 2- Figure of Section 4.2: Type =3D 35 (IPv4 IGP-Prefix SID) ---> Type = =3D 35 (IPv6 > IGP-Prefix SID) >=20 > 2.1- It would be nice if the figures have a caption where we can point = to the > figure number, and the figure number is referenced in the text. The = same for > the table of Section 4.3. >=20 > 3- Question: What do you think? >=20 > I think it would be nice to explain a bit more the length for the = different > combinations of the table of Section 4.3, e.g. with tables as detailed = below: >=20 > +-----------------------------+-------------------+ > | Field | Parallel (octets) | > | rfc8287#section-5.3 +-----+------+------+ > | | Any | OSPF | = ISIS | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Local Interface ID | 4 | 4 | 4 | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Remote Interface ID | 4 | 4 | 4 | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Advertising Node Identifier | 4 | 4 | 6 | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Receiving Node Identifier | 4 | 4 | 6 | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Reserved | 2 | 2 | = 2 | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Adj. Type + Protocol | 2 | 2 | 2 | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Sum Total octets =3D | 20 | 20 | 24 = | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ >=20 > +-----------------------------+-------------------+ > | Field | IPv4 (octets) = | > | rfc8287#section-5.3 +-----+------+------+ > | | Any | OSPF = | ISIS | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Local Interface ID | 4 | 4 | 4 | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Remote Interface ID | 4 | 4 | 4 | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Advertising Node Identifier | 4 | 4 | 6 | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Receiving Node Identifier | 4 | 4 | 6 | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Reserved | 2 | 2 | = 2 | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Adj. Type + Protocol | 2 | 2 | 2 | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Sum Total octets =3D | 20 | 20 | 24 | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ >=20 > +-----------------------------+-------------------+ > | Field | IPv6 (octets) = | > | rfc8287#section-5.3 +-----+------+------+ > | | Any | OSPF | = ISIS | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Local Interface ID | 16 | 16 | 16 | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Remote Interface ID | 16 | 16 | 16 | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Advertising Node IdentifieR | 4 | 4 | 6 | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Receiving Node Identifier | 4 | 4 | 6 | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Reserved | 2 | 2 | = 2 | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | Adj. Type + Protocol | 2 | 2 | 2 | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > | sum Total octets =3D | 44 | 44 | 48 = | > +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ >=20 > Nits/editorial comments: Issue tool: Summary: 0 errors (**), 0 flaws = (~~), 0 > warnings (=3D=3D), 1 comment (--). >=20 > Thanks for this document, >=20 > Ines >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Gen-art mailing list > Gen-art@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gen-art From nobody Tue Aug 6 12:25:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5652512003F; Tue, 6 Aug 2019 12:25:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.501 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.501 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, 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boundary="Apple-Mail=_50C6D154-E110-46ED-A57F-DB6BF50E3220" X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 586815245.254123-796a506b9bf332040ec2bdf42e1a0a1b Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Message-Id: <21011742-C1D6-4F64-852A-4C399139B840@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2019 16:14:05 -0400 Cc: draft-andersson-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update@ietf.org, mpls To: Loa Andersson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] draft-andersson-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-01 - Updating the LSP Ping IANA registries X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2019 20:14:15 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_50C6D154-E110-46ED-A57F-DB6BF50E3220 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Loa, Authors, Please find comments and recommendations on, prefaced with =E2=80=9CCMP": = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-andersson-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-updat= e-01 = =20 Updating the LSP Ping IANA registries CMP: I would change the title to follow the actual name of the = registration: =E2=80=9CUpdating IANA=E2=80=99s MPLS LSP Ping Parameters" Abstract This document updates some registries in the LSP Ping IANA name space. The updates are mostly for clarification and to align this registry with recent developments. CMP: Similarly, s/LSP Ping/MPLS LSP Ping/ in the Abstract to match the = registration. CMP: Also, s/to align this registry/to align these registries/ Table of Contents CMP: Editorial -> Arguably, the complete document is a set of =E2=80=9CIAN= A Considerations=E2=80=9D. That should be the main section encapsulating = S2 and S3. 1. Introduction When RFC 8029 [RFC8029] where published it contained among other CMP: s/were published/was published/ The LSP Ping IANA registries were partly updated to match RFC 8029, but the there were some ambiguity in the RFC, that were reflected in the registries. CMP: s/were some ambiguity/was some ambiguity/. CMP: However, I would not say there was =E2=80=9Cambiguity=E2=80=9D. I = would instead write that the registrations can be further clarified and = their definitions more precise. First the registries for Message Types [MessTypes], Reply Modes [re-Mode] and Return Codes [return-codes]. The changes to these registries are minor. CMP: The anchor for all citations is confusing, and it gets mis-sorted. = I recommend the following anchors throughout: OLD NEW ---------------------------------- [IANA-LSP-PING] [IANA-LSP-PING] [MessTypes] [IANA-MT] [re-Mode] [IANA-RM] [return-codes] [IANA-RC] [sub-1-16-21] [IANA-Sub-n] [sub-11] [IANA-Sub-11] [sub-20] [IANA-Sub-20] ... [tlv-reg] [IANA-TLV] 2. Updating the Message Types, Reply Mode and Return Codes Registries The following changes are made to the Message Types, Reply Modes and Return Codes [MessTypes] registries. CMP: Why only citation to message types? o a small set of code points (4 code points) for experimental use is added, actually they are take from the range for "Private Use". CMP: Gramar fixing needed. o the registration procedure "Specification Required" is changed to "RFC Required" and the note "Experimental RFC needed" is removed CMP: Please let=E2=80=99s fix the initial sentence capitalization IETF does not prescribe how the Experimental Use and Private Use sub- TLVs are handled; however, if a packet containing a sub-TLV from the Experimental Use or Private Use ranges is received by an LSR that does not recognize the sub-TLV, an error message MAY be returned if the sub-TLV is from the range 31744-32767, and the packet SHOULD be silently dropped if it is from the range 64512-65535. CMP: Which specific error message is sent? This updates not only = registration but also protocol constructs. As such, this should be = called out in the abstract (since it already updates 8029) 4. Security Considerations TBA CMP: =E2=80=9CThis document does not introduce any additional security = considerations beyond RFC 8029.=E2=80=9D [return-codes] "Return Codes", . CMP: In regards to all the references, the title needs to include = =E2=80=9CMPLS LSP Ping Parameters=E2=80=9D before =E2=80=9C, Return = Codes=E2=80=9D CMP: Also the URI should be shorter: = >= [RFC8611] Akiya, N., Swallow, G., Litkowski, S., Decraene, B., Drake, J., and M. Chen, "Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping and Traceroute Multipath Support for Link Aggregation Group (LAG) Interfaces", RFC 8611, DOI 10.17487/RFC8611, June 2019, . CMP: This should be Informative. I trust these are useful. =E2=80=94 Carlos Pignataro, http://carlos.pignataro.net = =E2=80=9CSometimes I use big words that I do not fully understand, to = make myself sound more photosynthesis." --Apple-Mail=_50C6D154-E110-46ED-A57F-DB6BF50E3220 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Loa, Authors,

Please find comments and recommendations on, prefaced with = =E2=80=9CCMP":
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-andersson-mpls-lsp-ping-regis= tries-update-01


Updating the LSP Ping IANA = registries

CMP: I = would change the title to follow the actual name of the registration: = =E2=80=9CUpdating IANA=E2=80=99s MPLS LSP Ping Parameters"


Abstract

   This document updates some = registries in the LSP Ping IANA name
  =  space.  The updates are mostly for clarification and to align = this
   registry with recent = developments.


CMP: Similarly, s/LSP Ping/MPLS LSP = Ping/ in the Abstract to match the registration.
CMP:= Also, s/to align this registry/to align these registries/


Table of Contents

CMP: Editorial -> Arguably, the = complete document is a set of =E2=80=9CIANA Considerations=E2=80=9D. = That should be the main section encapsulating S2 and S3.

1. =  Introduction

   When RFC = 8029 [RFC8029] where published it contained among other

CMP: s/were published/was = published/

   The LSP Ping IANA registries were partly updated = to match RFC 8029,
   but the there were = some ambiguity in the RFC, that were reflected in
   the registries.

CMP: s/were some ambiguity/was some = ambiguity/.

CMP:= However, I would not say there was =E2=80=9Cambiguity=E2=80=9D. I would = instead write that the registrations can be further clarified and their = definitions more precise.

   First the registries for Message Types = [MessTypes], Reply Modes
   [re-Mode] and = Return Codes [return-codes].  The changes to these
   registries are minor.


CMP: The anchor for all citations is confusing, and it gets = mis-sorted. I recommend the following anchors throughout:


  =  OLD              NEW
  ----------------------------------
  =  [IANA-LSP-PING]  [IANA-LSP-PING]
  =  [MessTypes]      [IANA-MT]
  =  [re-Mode]        [IANA-RM]
  =  [return-codes]   [IANA-RC]
  =  [sub-1-16-21]    [IANA-Sub-n]
  =  [sub-11]         [IANA-Sub-11]
   [sub-20]         = [IANA-Sub-20]
   ...
  =  [tlv-reg]        [IANA-TLV]


2. =  Updating the Message Types, Reply Mode and Return Codes = Registries


   The following changes are = made to the Message Types, Reply Modes and
  =  Return Codes [MessTypes] registries.

CMP: Why only citation to message = types?

   o  a small set of code points (4 code = points) for experimental use is
    =   added, actually they are take from the range for "Private = Use".

CMP: = Gramar fixing needed.

   o  the registration procedure = "Specification Required" is changed to
  =     "RFC Required" and the note "Experimental RFC needed" is = removed


CMP: Please let=E2=80=99s fix the = initial sentence capitalization


   IETF does not prescribe how the Experimental = Use and Private Use sub-
   TLVs are = handled; however, if a packet containing a sub-TLV from the
   Experimental Use or Private Use ranges is = received by an LSR that
   does not = recognize the sub-TLV, an error message MAY be returned if
   the sub-TLV is from the range 31744-32767, and = the packet SHOULD be
   silently dropped = if it is from the range 64512-65535.


CMP: Which specific error message is sent? This updates not = only registration but also protocol constructs. As such, this should be = called out in the abstract (since it already updates 8029)

4.  Security = Considerations


   TBA

CMP: =E2=80=9CThis document does not = introduce any additional security considerations beyond RFC = 8029.=E2=80=9D

   [return-codes]
    =           "Return Codes", <https://www.iana.org/assignments/
              = mpls-lsp-ping-parameters/
      =         = mpls-lsp-ping-parameters.xhtml#return-codes>.

CMP: In regards to all the references, the title needs = to include =E2=80=9CMPLS LSP Ping Parameters=E2=80=9D before =E2=80=9C, = Return Codes=E2=80=9D
CMP: Also the URI should be = shorter: <https://www.iana.org/assignments/mpls-lsp-ping-parameters/#retu= rn-codes>


   [RFC8611]  Akiya, N., Swallow, G., = Litkowski, S., Decraene, B.,
        =       Drake, J., and M. Chen, "Label Switched Path (LSP) = Ping
            =   and Traceroute Multipath Support for Link Aggregation
              Group (LAG) = Interfaces", RFC 8611, DOI 10.17487/RFC8611,
  =             June 2019, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8611>.


CMP: This should be Informative.

I trust these are useful.

=E2=80=94
Carlos Pignataro, http://carlos.pignataro.net

=E2=80=9CSometimes I use big words that I do not fully = understand, to make myself sound more photosynthesis."

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Best, Ines. On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 10:25 PM Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) < cpignata@cisco.com> wrote: > Hi, Ines, Many thanks for your very useful review! > > Thanks Alissa for flagging this. > > Please find some follow-up comments inline. > > > On Aug 6, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Alissa Cooper wrote: > > > > Ines, thanks for your review. I entered a DISCUSS ballot to get the > figure fixed in Section 4.2. > > > > Alissa > > > > > >> On Jul 30, 2019, at 8:11 AM, Ines Robles via Datatracker < > noreply@ietf.org> wrote: > >> > >> Reviewer: Ines Robles > >> Review result: Ready with Issues > >> > >> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area > >> Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed > >> by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just > >> like any other last call comments. > >> > >> For more information, please see the FAQ at > >> > >> . > >> > >> Document: draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-02 > >> Reviewer: Ines Robles > >> Review Date: 2019-07-30 > >> IETF LC End Date: 2019-07-31 > >> IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat > >> > >> Summary: > >> > >> I believe the draft is technically good. This document is well written= . > >> > >> The document updates RFC8287 by clarifying the length for the followin= g > Segment > >> ID Sub-TLVs: IPv4 IGP-Prefix Segment ID Sub-TLV, IPv6 IGP-Prefix > Segment ID > >> Sub-TLV and IGP-Adjacency Segment ID Sub-TLV. > >> > >> There are some minor issues detailed below that should be addressed. > >> > >> Major issues: Not found > >> > >> Minor issues: > >> > >> 1- Section 3 - Requirements notation is not complete, it should be > added: "NOT > >> RECOMMENDED" and "...are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 > [RFC2119] > >> [RFC8174] when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown > here.=E2=80=9D > >> > > Sure. > > >> 2- Figure of Section 4.2: Type =3D 35 (IPv4 IGP-Prefix SID) ---> Type = =3D > 35 (IPv6 > >> IGP-Prefix SID) > >> > > Indeed. Great catch and many thanks. > > >> 2.1- It would be nice if the figures have a caption where we can point > to the > >> figure number, and the figure number is referenced in the text. The > same for > >> the table of Section 4.3. > >> > > We had thought about this, and received this comment before also, but > since this is largely a fix and update to RFC 8287, we want to remain > consistent to the format used there. > > >> 3- Question: What do you think? > >> > >> I think it would be nice to explain a bit more the length for the > different > >> combinations of the table of Section 4.3, e.g. with tables as detailed > below: > > Thanks for this suggestion. To me, it seems a bit overkill to explain the > the size of an IPv4 is 4 octets, and the size of an IPv6 is 16 octets, et= c. > The fact that we are including the table seems the right middle-ground fo= r > readability, thoroughness, and detailed-orientedness. > > But thanks for the suggestion. > > Best, > > Carlos. > > >> > >> +-----------------------------+-------------------+ > >> | Field | Parallel (octets) | > >> | rfc8287#section-5.3 +-----+------+------+ > >> | | Any | OSPF | > ISIS | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Local Interface ID | 4 | 4 | 4 | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Remote Interface ID | 4 | 4 | 4 | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Advertising Node Identifier | 4 | 4 | 6 | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Receiving Node Identifier | 4 | 4 | 6 | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Reserved | 2 | 2 | > 2 | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Adj. Type + Protocol | 2 | 2 | 2 | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Sum Total octets =3D | 20 | 20 | 24 = | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> > >> +-----------------------------+-------------------+ > >> | Field | IPv4 (octets) = | > >> | rfc8287#section-5.3 +-----+------+------+ > >> | | Any | OSPF = | > ISIS | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Local Interface ID | 4 | 4 | 4 | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Remote Interface ID | 4 | 4 | 4 | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Advertising Node Identifier | 4 | 4 | 6 | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Receiving Node Identifier | 4 | 4 | 6 | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Reserved | 2 | 2 | > 2 | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Adj. Type + Protocol | 2 | 2 | 2 | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Sum Total octets =3D | 20 | 20 | 24 | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> > >> +-----------------------------+-------------------+ > >> | Field | IPv6 (octets) > | > >> | rfc8287#section-5.3 +-----+------+------+ > >> | | Any | OSPF | > ISIS | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Local Interface ID | 16 | 16 | 16 | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Remote Interface ID | 16 | 16 | 16 | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Advertising Node IdentifieR | 4 | 4 | 6 | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Receiving Node Identifier | 4 | 4 | 6 | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Reserved | 2 | 2 | > 2 | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | Adj. Type + Protocol | 2 | 2 | 2 | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> | sum Total octets =3D | 44 | 44 | 48 = | > >> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+ > >> > >> Nits/editorial comments: Issue tool: Summary: 0 errors (**), 0 flaws > (~~), 0 > >> warnings (=3D=3D), 1 comment (--). > >> > >> Thanks for this document, > >> > >> Ines > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Gen-art mailing list > >> Gen-art@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gen-art > > > > --000000000000ab1c69058f82fcda Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Carlos,

Ok, thank you very much for = addressing my comments.

Best,

=
Ines.

On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 10:25 PM Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)= <cpignata@cisco.com> wrote= :
Hi, Ines, Many= thanks for your very useful review!

Thanks Alissa for flagging this.

Please find some follow-up comments inline.

> On Aug 6, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> wrote:
>
> Ines, thanks for your review. I entered a DISCUSS ballot to get the fi= gure fixed in Section 4.2.
>
> Alissa
>
>
>> On Jul 30, 2019, at 8:11 AM, Ines Robles via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> w= rote:
>>
>> Reviewer: Ines Robles
>> Review result: Ready with Issues
>>
>> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Are= a
>> Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed >> by the IESG for the IETF Chair.=C2=A0 Please treat these comments = just
>> like any other last call comments.
>>
>> For more information, please see the FAQ at
>>
>> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/gen/wiki/GenAr= tfaq>.
>>
>> Document: draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-02
>> Reviewer: Ines Robles
>> Review Date: 2019-07-30
>> IETF LC End Date: 2019-07-31
>> IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat
>>
>> Summary:
>>
>> I believe the draft is technically good. This document is well wri= tten.
>>
>> The document updates RFC8287 by clarifying the length for the foll= owing Segment
>> ID Sub-TLVs: IPv4 IGP-Prefix Segment ID Sub-TLV, IPv6 IGP-Prefix S= egment ID
>> Sub-TLV and IGP-Adjacency Segment ID Sub-TLV.
>>
>> There are some minor issues detailed below that should be addresse= d.
>>
>> Major issues: Not found
>>
>> Minor issues:
>>
>> 1- Section 3 - Requirements notation is not complete, it should be= added:=C2=A0 "NOT
>> RECOMMENDED" and "...are to be interpreted as described = in BCP 14 [RFC2119]
>> [RFC8174] when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as sho= wn here.=E2=80=9D
>>

Sure.

>> 2- Figure of Section 4.2: Type =3D 35 (IPv4 IGP-Prefix SID) --->= ; Type =3D 35 (IPv6
>> IGP-Prefix SID)
>>

Indeed. Great catch and many thanks.

>> 2.1- It would be nice if the figures have a caption where we can p= oint to the
>> figure number, and the figure number is referenced in the text. Th= e same for
>> the table of Section 4.3.
>>

We had thought about this, and received this comment before also, but since= this is largely a fix and update to RFC 8287, we want to remain consistent= to the format used there.

>> 3- Question: What do you think?
>>
>> I think it would be nice to explain a bit more the length for the = different
>> combinations of the table of Section 4.3, e.g. with tables as deta= iled below:

Thanks for this suggestion. To me, it seems a bit overkill to explain the t= he size of an IPv4 is 4 octets, and the size of an IPv6 is 16 octets, etc. = The fact that we are including the table seems the right middle-ground for = readability, thoroughness, and detailed-orientedness.

But thanks for the suggestion.

Best,

Carlos.

>>
>> +-----------------------------+-------------------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Field=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0| Parallel (octets) |
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0rfc8287#section-5.3=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 +-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0| Any | OSPF | I= SIS |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Local Interface ID=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 4=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2= =A04=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A04=C2=A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Remote Interface ID=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 4=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A04=C2=A0= |=C2=A0 =C2=A04=C2=A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> | Advertising Node Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |= =C2=A0 4=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A04=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A06=C2=A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 Receiving Node Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 4=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A04=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A06=C2= =A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Reserved=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 2=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A02=C2=A0 |=C2= =A0 =C2=A02=C2=A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Adj. Type + Protocol=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 2=C2=A0 |=C2=A0= =C2=A02=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A02=C2=A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Sum Total octets =3D=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 20 |=C2= =A0 20=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 24=C2=A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>>
>> +-----------------------------+-------------------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Field=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0IPv4 (octets)=C2=A0 =C2=A0|
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0rfc8287#section-5.3=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | Any | OSPF | = ISIS |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Local Interface ID=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 4=C2=A0 |=C2=A0= =C2=A04=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A04=C2=A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Remote Interface ID=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 4=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A04=C2=A0= |=C2=A0 =C2=A04=C2=A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> | Advertising Node Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0|=C2=A0 4=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A04=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A06=C2=A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 Receiving Node Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 4=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A04=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A06=C2= =A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Reserved=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 2=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A02=C2=A0 |=C2= =A0 =C2=A02=C2=A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Adj. Type + Protocol=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 2=C2=A0 |=C2=A0= =C2=A02=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A02=C2=A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Sum Total octets =3D=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 20 |=C2= =A0 20=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 24=C2=A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>>
>> +-----------------------------+-------------------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Field=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A0IPv6 (octets)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 |
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0rfc8287#section-5.3=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0| Any | OSPF | I= SIS |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Local Interface ID=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 16 |=C2=A0 16=C2=A0 |= =C2=A0 16=C2=A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Remote Interface ID=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 16 |=C2=A0 16=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 = 16=C2=A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> | Advertising Node IdentifieR=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0|=C2=A0 4=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A04=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A06=C2=A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 Receiving Node Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 4=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A04=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A06=C2= =A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Reserved=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 2=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A02=C2=A0 |=C2= =A0 =C2=A02=C2=A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Adj. Type + Protocol=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 2=C2=A0 |=C2=A0= =C2=A02=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 =C2=A02=C2=A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>> |=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0sum=C2=A0 Total octets =3D=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|=C2=A0 4= 4 |=C2=A0 44=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 48=C2=A0 |
>> +-----------------------------+-----+------+------+
>>
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--000000000000ab1c69058f82fcda-- From nobody Wed Aug 7 19:22:25 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F44120099; Wed, 7 Aug 2019 19:22:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Suresh Krishnan via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification@ietf.org, Loa Andersson , mpls-chairs@ietf.org, loa@pi.nu, mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.100.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Suresh Krishnan Message-ID: <156523094247.8301.12013941748188191188.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2019 19:22:22 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Suresh Krishnan's Discuss on draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-02: (with DISCUSS) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2019 02:22:23 -0000 Suresh Krishnan has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-02: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This should be very easy to clear up * Section 4.3 Since this whole draft is about clarifying Sub-TLV length calculations I think this section needs to cover the length calculation for the unnumbered Adjacency Type (Adj. Type 0 in RFC8287). 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WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <043501d54b8e$20638550$612a8ff0$@olddog.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-andersson-lsp-ping-registries-update X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2019 09:25:33 -0000 Adrian, No, I'm not aware of any IPR that needs to be disclosed /Loa On 2019-08-05 15:03, Adrian Farrel wrote: > Hi authors, > > As we progress draft-andersson-lsp-ping-registries-update, could you please > confirm (on the mailing list) whether you know of any applicable IPR that > needs to be disclosed consistent with the IETF's IPR policies. Suitable > responses are: > > - No, I'm not aware of any IPR that needs to be disclosed > > - Yes, I'm aware of IPR and it has already been disclosed > > - Yes, I'm aware of IPR and I will ensure that it is disclosed in a timely > manner > > Thanks, > Adrian > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Thu Aug 8 13:23:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EA81200A3; Thu, 8 Aug 2019 13:23:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.100.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mpls@ietf.org Message-ID: <156529579807.7662.17649056664960629791@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2019 13:23:18 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-03.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2019 20:23:19 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF. Title : RFC8287 Sub-TLV Length Clarification Authors : Nagendra Kumar Nainar Carlos Pignataro Faisal Iqbal Alexander Vainshtein Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-03.txt Pages : 6 Date : 2019-08-08 Abstract: RFC8287 defines the extensions to MPLS LSP Ping and Traceroute for Segment Routing IGP-Prefix and IGP-Adjacency Segment Identifier (SIDs) with an MPLS data plane. RFC8287 proposes 3 Target FEC Stack Sub-TLVs. While the standard defines the format and procedure to handle those Sub-TLVs, it does not sufficiently clarify how the length of the Segment ID Sub-TLVs should be computed to include in the Length field of the Sub-TLVs which may result in interoperability issues. This document updates RFC8287 by clarifying the length of each Segment ID Sub-TLVs defined in RFC8287. 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We will update the table with length for Unnu= mbered Adj-Type as well. Thanks for addressing this Nagendra. I have cleared. Regards Suresh From nobody Thu Aug 8 15:13:31 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255A212002F; Thu, 8 Aug 2019 15:13:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Suresh Krishnan via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification@ietf.org, Loa Andersson , mpls-chairs@ietf.org, loa@pi.nu, mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.100.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Suresh Krishnan Message-ID: <156530240214.7585.7454874507819096289.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2019 15:13:22 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Suresh Krishnan's No Objection on draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-03: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2019 22:13:22 -0000 Suresh Krishnan has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-03: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for addressing my DISCUSS. From nobody Thu Aug 8 17:33:53 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B036A12006A; Thu, 8 Aug 2019 17:33:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.100.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mpls@ietf.org Message-ID: <156531082468.7678.16691240432825706493@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2019 17:33:44 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-04.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2019 00:33:45 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF. Title : RFC8287 Sub-TLV Length Clarification Authors : Nagendra Kumar Nainar Carlos Pignataro Faisal Iqbal Alexander Vainshtein Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-04.txt Pages : 6 Date : 2019-08-08 Abstract: RFC8287 defines the extensions to MPLS LSP Ping and Traceroute for Segment Routing IGP-Prefix and IGP-Adjacency Segment Identifier (SIDs) with an MPLS data plane. RFC8287 proposes 3 Target FEC Stack Sub-TLVs. While the standard defines the format and procedure to handle those Sub-TLVs, it does not sufficiently clarify how the length of the Segment ID Sub-TLVs should be computed to include in the Length field of the Sub-TLVs which may result in interoperability issues. This document updates RFC8287 by clarifying the length of each Segment ID Sub-TLVs defined in RFC8287. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-04 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-04 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Aug 9 01:52:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F111200F7; Fri, 9 Aug 2019 01:52:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XV1A6wr92lkn; Fri, 9 Aug 2019 01:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2C0A1200EF; Fri, 9 Aug 2019 01:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhreml705-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id AFA9052A00174B2BAF7C; Fri, 9 Aug 2019 09:52:14 +0100 (IST) Received: from DGGEML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.3.17.33) by lhreml705-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.46) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Fri, 9 Aug 2019 09:52:14 +0100 Received: from DGGEML510-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.7]) by DGGEML403-HUB.china.huawei.com ([fe80::74d9:c659:fbec:21fa%31]) with mapi id 14.03.0439.000; Fri, 9 Aug 2019 16:50:58 +0800 From: Mach Chen To: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , "draft-andersson-lsp-ping-registries-update@ietf.org" CC: "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-andersson-lsp-ping-registries-update Thread-Index: AdVLjbb3tN2/RbTZTD2eyB4cjyhJjADAcWgw Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 08:50:58 +0000 Message-ID: References: <043501d54b8e$20638550$612a8ff0$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <043501d54b8e$20638550$612a8ff0$@olddog.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.194.201] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-andersson-lsp-ping-registries-update X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2019 08:52:19 -0000 Hi Adrian, No, I'm not aware of any IPR that needs to be disclosed. Best regards, Mach > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 9:03 PM > To: draft-andersson-lsp-ping-registries-update@ietf.org > Cc: mpls@ietf.org > Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-andersson-lsp-ping-registries-update >=20 > Hi authors, >=20 > As we progress draft-andersson-lsp-ping-registries-update, could you plea= se > confirm (on the mailing list) whether you know of any applicable IPR that > needs to be disclosed consistent with the IETF's IPR policies. Suitable > responses are: >=20 > - No, I'm not aware of any IPR that needs to be disclosed >=20 > - Yes, I'm aware of IPR and it has already been disclosed >=20 > - Yes, I'm aware of IPR and I will ensure that it is disclosed in a timel= y manner >=20 > Thanks, > Adrian >=20 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Fri Aug 9 07:49:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364F312008F; Fri, 9 Aug 2019 07:49:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Tue, 13 Aug 2019 07:02:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.100.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mpls@ietf.org Message-ID: <156570493291.24091.10222358004272601559@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 07:02:12 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-rmr-multicast-00.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 14:02:13 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF. Title : Resilient MPLS Rings and Multicast Authors : Zhaohui Zhang Santosh Esale Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-rmr-multicast-00.txt Pages : 7 Date : 2019-07-29 Abstract: With Resilient MPLS Rings (RMR), although all existing multicast procedures and solutions can work as is, there are optimizations that could be done for RSVP-TE P2MP tunnel signaling and Fast-ReRouting for both mLDP and RSVP-TE P2MP tunnels. This document describes RMR multicast on a high level, with detailed protocol procedure for RSVP- TE P2MP optimizations specified in a separate document. This document also discusses end to end multicast when there are RMRs. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-rmr-multicast/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-rmr-multicast-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mpls-rmr-multicast-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Aug 16 04:11:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB97012008A; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 04:11:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F-iC24PgSlF4; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 04:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 824CA120018; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 04:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (81-236-221-251-no93.tbcn.telia.com [81.236.221.251]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 69F7E363205; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 13:10:57 +0200 (CEST) To: Carlos Pignataro Cc: draft-andersson-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update@ietf.org, mpls , Adrian Farrel References: <21011742-C1D6-4F64-852A-4C399139B840@gmail.com> From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 13:10:56 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <21011742-C1D6-4F64-852A-4C399139B840@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] draft-andersson-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-01 - Updating the LSP Ping IANA registries X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 11:11:02 -0000 Folks, (adding Adrian as Shepherd), It has take me a long tiime to start updating the draft according to the much appreciated comments from Carlos and Adrian. I have a question on one of the comments from Carlos: On 2019-08-06 22:14, Carlos Pignataro wrote: > > >    [RFC8611]  Akiya, N., Swallow, G., Litkowski, S., Decraene, B., >               Drake, J., and M. Chen, "Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping >               and Traceroute Multipath Support for Link Aggregation >               Group (LAG) Interfaces", RFC 8611, DOI 10.17487/RFC8611, >               June 2019, . > > > CMP: This should be Informative. Adrain comment on updating RFC 8611 (his suggested text for Section 1): NEW When RFC 8029 [RFC8029] where published it contained among other things updates to the "Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Paths (LSPs) Ping Parameters" IANA name space [IANA-LSP-PING]. RFC 8126 [RFC8126] updated the LSP Ping IANA registries to match RFC 8029, but there were still some ambiguities, that were reflected in the registries. This document updates [RFC8029] and [RFC8126] by updating two groups of registries. END So we are updating RFC 8611, and the text that we add/change will be normative, does thai not make RFC 8611 a normative refrenece? /Loa -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Fri Aug 16 04:15:00 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB72120099; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 04:14:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZyLlRPFlwOBj; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 04:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta5.iomartmail.com (mta5.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.155]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 790EB120018; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 04:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (vs2.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.123]) by mta5.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x7GBEr37002689; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 12:14:53 +0100 Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B01B2204C; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 12:14:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.249]) by vs2.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 251B72204A; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 12:14:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V (120.105.162.213.dyn.plus.net [213.162.105.120] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x7GBEZSL004867 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 16 Aug 2019 12:14:48 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Loa Andersson'" , "'Carlos Pignataro'" Cc: , "'mpls'" References: <21011742-C1D6-4F64-852A-4C399139B840@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 12:14:34 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <027301d55423$d3269f90$7973deb0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQEM0kRiCYYrge7iedSZPD9sZu03HQLhF666qHeaI6A= Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 213.162.105.120 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-24850.007 X-TM-AS-Result: No--17.759-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--17.759-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-24850.007 X-TMASE-Result: 10--17.759400-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: byfwvk+IcRkeimh1YYHcKHFPUrVDm6jtIiTd2l7lf6Grj76PS+omiPIN /xa5SAWKf0DsqgXXzfNxo9qwhEt9B2j1t8tcTt8vcI7vRACwF0IZskwWqoib3M1YMD+2TGH/6nm mf6Dr6ZI42WIe5Hmyd49bHfxDWoibEEHv4jm9YZSQgeuUY0WN7Ag37HNlYpcQFSvc08loEetXoY nJE8t84g3KD2WvNCEjUoxDUhB+tXjHSVcFK5eFICwgwmow2VqdWw/S0HB7eoNpsnGGIgWMmf0EG qXiN/DnTIhQ5XWjkEksXutoVHERrp4bb0OHDj0TOGJyJBH/4NAHgh3sKJBzP8uSXx71bvSLcfIu blHY1q1kvSA35dnLlLVsp6M3qcLkPoRxaGG/Fxg3N0jFxD0aQ30tCKdnhB58GtkvK5L7RXGw7M6 dyuYKg/cUt5lc1lLgtT4piLWpY7p+3BndfXUhXQ== X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] draft-andersson-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-01 - Updating the LSP Ping IANA registries X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 11:14:59 -0000 Yeah, I think that Carlos was right in the context of the text he reviewed, = but with my change the reference should stay normative. Best, Adrian -----Original Message----- From: Loa Andersson =20 Sent: 16 August 2019 12:11 To: Carlos Pignataro Cc: draft-andersson-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update@ietf.org; mpls = ; Adrian Farrel Subject: Re: draft-andersson-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-01 - = Updating the LSP Ping IANA registries Folks, (adding Adrian as Shepherd), It has take me a long tiime to start updating the draft according to the much appreciated comments from Carlos and Adrian. I have a question on one of the comments from Carlos: On 2019-08-06 22:14, Carlos Pignataro wrote: >=20 >=20 > [RFC8611] Akiya, N., Swallow, G., Litkowski, S., Decraene, B., > Drake, J., and M. Chen, "Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping > and Traceroute Multipath Support for Link Aggregation > Group (LAG) Interfaces", RFC 8611, DOI = 10.17487/RFC8611, > June 2019, . >=20 >=20 > CMP: This should be Informative. Adrain comment on updating RFC 8611 (his suggested text for Section 1): NEW When RFC 8029 [RFC8029] where published it contained among other things updates to the "Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Paths (LSPs) Ping Parameters" IANA name space [IANA-LSP-PING]. RFC 8126 [RFC8126] updated the LSP Ping IANA registries to match RFC 8029, but there were still some ambiguities, that were reflected in the registries. This document updates [RFC8029] and [RFC8126] by updating two groups of registries. END So we are updating RFC 8611, and the text that we add/change will be normative, does thai not make RFC 8611 a normative refrenece? /Loa --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Sun Aug 18 13:19:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0B71201E4; Sun, 18 Aug 2019 13:19:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ebben Aries via Datatracker To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org, draft-ietf-mpls-base-yang.all@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.100.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Ebben Aries Message-ID: <156615954036.3697.1825462750505422399@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2019 13:19:00 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-mpls-base-yang-10 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2019 20:19:01 -0000 Reviewer: Ebben Aries Review result: On the Right Track 1 module in this draft: - ietf-mpls@2019-02-24.yang No YANG compiler errors or warnings (pyang 2.0.1, yanglint 1.1.40, confdc 6.6.3) Module ietf-mpls@2019-02-24.yang: -------------------------------------------------- - Remove WG Chairs from contact information per https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8407#appendix-B - 'ietf-interfaces' import should reference RFC8343 rather - Must clause for start/end-label is incorrect. Would suggest moving this must statement underneath the `leaf end-label` as well: e.g. leaf end-label { type rt-types:mpls-label; must '. >= ../start-label' { error-message "The end-label must be greater than or equal " + "to start-label"; } description "Label-block end"; } - Use of 'state' container under '/routing/mpls/label-blocks/label-block/state' These nodes could sit as r/o nodes by the looks of it directly under the label-block list. In addition, do these nodes need '-count' suffixes? Should they rather be of type `yang:counter32`? See: https://github.com/netmod-wg/FAQ/wiki/NMDA-Modelling-FAQ - Is there any intention to define any surrounding features? 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Should RFC 8126 be instead RFC 8611? If so, then: 1. RFC 8126 could stay as it was. 2. RFC 8611 should be Normative (given the new text from Adrian, on RFC = 8611 and not 8126). Thanks! =E2=80=94 Carlos Pignataro, http://carlos.pignataro.net = =E2=80=9CSometimes I use big words that I do not fully understand, to = make myself sound more photosynthesis." > On Aug 16, 2019, at 7:14 AM, Adrian Farrel = wrote: >=20 > Yeah, >=20 > I think that Carlos was right in the context of the text he reviewed, = but with my change the reference should stay normative. >=20 > Best, > Adrian >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Loa Andersson =20 > Sent: 16 August 2019 12:11 > To: Carlos Pignataro > Cc: draft-andersson-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update@ietf.org; mpls = ; Adrian Farrel > Subject: Re: draft-andersson-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-01 - = Updating the LSP Ping IANA registries >=20 > Folks, (adding Adrian as Shepherd), >=20 > It has take me a long tiime to start updating the draft according to = the > much appreciated comments from Carlos and Adrian. >=20 > I have a question on one of the comments from Carlos: >=20 > On 2019-08-06 22:14, Carlos Pignataro wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> [RFC8611] Akiya, N., Swallow, G., Litkowski, S., Decraene, B., >> Drake, J., and M. Chen, "Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping >> and Traceroute Multipath Support for Link Aggregation >> Group (LAG) Interfaces", RFC 8611, DOI = 10.17487/RFC8611, >> June 2019, . >>=20 >>=20 >> CMP: This should be Informative. >=20 > Adrain comment on updating RFC 8611 (his suggested text for Section = 1): >=20 > NEW > When RFC 8029 [RFC8029] where published it contained among other > things updates to the "Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label > Switched Paths (LSPs) Ping Parameters" IANA name space > [IANA-LSP-PING]. >=20 > RFC 8126 [RFC8126] updated the LSP Ping IANA registries to match > RFC 8029, but there were still some ambiguities, that were > reflected in the registries. >=20 > This document updates [RFC8029] and [RFC8126] by updating two > groups of registries. > END >=20 > So we are updating RFC 8611, and the text that we add/change will be > normative, does thai not make RFC 8611 a normative refrenece? >=20 > /Loa >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu > Senior MPLS Expert > Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_81BABBC0-ED44-4739-B8CD-4BF66BE74BA7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi, = Adrian, Loa,

In this = new proposed text:
   RFC 8126 [RFC8126] updated the LSP Ping IANA = registries to match
   RFC 8029, but there = were still some ambiguities, that were
   reflected in the registries.

Should RFC 8126 be instead RFC 8611?

If so, then:
1. = RFC 8126 could stay as it was.
2. RFC 8611 should = be Normative (given the new text from Adrian, on RFC 8611 and not = 8126).

Thanks!

=E2=80=94
Carlos Pignataro, http://carlos.pignataro.net

=E2=80=9CSometimes I use big words that I do not fully = understand, to make myself sound more photosynthesis."

On Aug 16, 2019, at 7:14 AM, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>= wrote:

Yeah,

I think that Carlos was = right in the context of the text he reviewed, but with my change the = reference should stay normative.

Best,
Adrian

-----Original = Message-----
From: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>
Sent: 16 August 2019 12:11
To: Carlos Pignataro = <cpignata@gmail.com>
Cc: draft-andersson-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update@ietf.org; = mpls <mpls@ietf.org>; Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
Subject: Re: = draft-andersson-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-01 - Updating the LSP = Ping IANA registries

Folks, (adding Adrian = as Shepherd),

It has take me a long tiime = to start updating the draft according to the
much = appreciated comments from Carlos and Adrian.

I have a question on one of the comments from Carlos:

On 2019-08-06 22:14, Carlos Pignataro = wrote:


   [RFC8611]  Akiya, N., = Swallow, G., Litkowski, S., Decraene, B.,
=             &n= bsp; Drake, J., and M. Chen, "Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping
=             &n= bsp; and Traceroute Multipath Support for Link Aggregation
=             &n= bsp; Group (LAG) Interfaces", RFC 8611, DOI 10.17487/RFC8611,
=             &n= bsp; June 2019, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8611>.


CMP: This should be = Informative.

Adrain comment on = updating RFC 8611 (his suggested text for Section 1):

NEW
   When RFC 8029 [RFC8029] = where published it contained among other
=    things updates to the "Multiprotocol Label Switching = (MPLS) Label
   Switched Paths (LSPs) Ping = Parameters" IANA name space
=    [IANA-LSP-PING].

=    RFC 8126 [RFC8126] updated the LSP Ping IANA = registries to match
   RFC 8029, but there = were still some ambiguities, that were
=    reflected in the registries.

   This document updates [RFC8029] and = [RFC8126] by updating two
   groups of = registries.
END

So we are = updating RFC 8611, and the text that we add/change will be
normative, does thai not make RFC 8611 a normative = refrenece?

/Loa



--


Loa Andersson =             &n= bsp;          email: loa@pi.nu
Senior MPLS Expert
Bronze Dragon Consulting =             ph= one: +46 739 81 21 64


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Tue, 20 Aug 2019 03:06:32 +0000 From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" To: Adrian Farrel CC: "draft-andersson-lsp-ping-registries-update@ietf.org" , mpls Thread-Topic: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-andersson-lsp-ping-registries-update Thread-Index: AQHVVwREtN2/RbTZTD2eyB4cjyhJjA== Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 03:06:32 +0000 Message-ID: References: <043501d54b8e$20638550$612a8ff0$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <043501d54b8e$20638550$612a8ff0$@olddog.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=cpignata@cisco.com; x-originating-ip: [173.38.117.94] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: e76f9060-ef00-4e24-8de8-08d7251b679c x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(2390118)(7020095)(4652040)(8989299)(4534185)(4627221)(201703031133081)(201702281549075)(8990200)(5600148)(711020)(4605104)(1401327)(2017052603328)(7193020); SRVR:BL0PR11MB3409; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: e76f9060-ef00-4e24-8de8-08d7251b679c X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 20 Aug 2019 03:06:32.6773 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 5ae1af62-9505-4097-a69a-c1553ef7840e X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: BgSUmYTx2KewYnbf1tXO8Ulsb0doxpI7/iiPD4+BTOfOxOA9wX86kOiDBJMTBOatVML2pxQOefOroZ3TlcoNoA== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BL0PR11MB3409 X-OriginatorOrg: cisco.com X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 173.36.7.22, xch-aln-012.cisco.com X-Outbound-Node: alln-core-10.cisco.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-andersson-lsp-ping-registries-update X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 03:06:57 -0000 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that needs to be disclosed. Thanks, Carlos. > On Aug 5, 2019, at 9:03 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote: >=20 > Hi authors, >=20 > As we progress draft-andersson-lsp-ping-registries-update, could you plea= se > confirm (on the mailing list) whether you know of any applicable IPR that > needs to be disclosed consistent with the IETF's IPR policies. Suitable > responses are: >=20 > - No, I'm not aware of any IPR that needs to be disclosed >=20 > - Yes, I'm aware of IPR and it has already been disclosed >=20 > - Yes, I'm aware of IPR and I will ensure that it is disclosed in a timel= y > manner >=20 > Thanks, > Adrian >=20 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Wed Aug 21 14:11:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB5D120091; Wed, 21 Aug 2019 14:11:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.100.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mpls@ietf.org Message-ID: <156642190734.25743.15937635204688170020@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 14:11:47 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-12.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 21:11:48 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF. Title : Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) Directed Return Path Authors : Greg Mirsky Jeff Tantsura Ilya Varlashkin Mach(Guoyi) Chen Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-12.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2019-08-21 Abstract: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) is expected to be able to monitor a wide variety of encapsulations of paths between systems. When a BFD session monitors an explicitly routed unidirectional path there may be a need to direct egress BFD peer to use a specific path for the reverse direction of the BFD session. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-12 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-12 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-12 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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We believe that with this update all outstanding technical comments have been addressed. Regards, Geg On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 2:12 PM Greg Mirsky wrote: > Hi Mach, et al., > again, thank you for organizing the discussion. I've searched through my > mailbox and the most recent comments went only to MPLS and BFD WGs chairs, > not in WGs archives. Perhaps the discussion thread can still be found as > "Status of draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed". > In response to Carlos questions, in the new update of the draft > , we've > added the new section, Operational Considerations. There the use of LSP > Ping with BFD Reverse Path TLV is described for scenarios of planned and > unexpected changes of the FEC to which the reverse direction of a BFD > session is tied. > I think that addresses all the outstanding comments. > > Regards, > Greg > > > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 7:49 PM Mach Chen wrote: > >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> The MPLS BFD directed draft ( >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-11 ) has been >> there for a long time. There were quite a lot of discussions between Greg >> and Carlos. The draft has been updated several time to address Carlos's >> comment. Seems there still are some unaddressed comments. Can we find a >> time during the Montreal meeting to discuss the unaddressed comments? And >> hopefully we could find a way to progress the draft. >> >> Since this draft is related to both MPLS and BFD, both working group >> chairs are welcome to join the discussion. >> >> See you in Montreal! >> >> Best regards, >> Mach >> > --000000000000ec53930590f87a9a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All,
in the new section, Operat= ional Considerations, we've described the use of LSP Ping with BFD = Reverse Path TLV is described for scenarios of planned and unexpected chang= es of the FEC to which the reverse direction of a BFD session is tied. We b= elieve that with this update all outstanding technical comments have been a= ddressed.

Regards,
Geg

On Wed, Aug 21, 20= 19 at 2:12 PM Greg Mirsky <greg= imirsky@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Mach, et al.,
again, thank you for= organizing the discussion. I've searched through my mailbox and the mo= st recent comments went only to MPLS and BFD WGs chairs, not in WGs archive= s. Perhaps the discussion thread can still be found as "Status of draf= t-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed".
In response to Carlos questions, = in the new update of the draft, we've added the n= ew section, Operational Considerations. There the use of LSP Ping with BFD = Reverse Path TLV is described for scenarios of planned and unexpected chang= es of the FEC to which the reverse direction of a BFD session is tied.
I think that addresses all the outstanding comments.

Regards,
Greg




On = Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 7:49 PM Mach Chen <mach.chen@huawei.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,

The MPLS BFD directed draft (https://tool= s.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-11 ) has been there for a = long time. There were quite a lot of discussions between Greg and Carlos. T= he draft has been updated several time to address Carlos's comment. See= ms there still are some unaddressed comments. Can we find a time during the= Montreal meeting to discuss the unaddressed comments? And hopefully we cou= ld find a way to progress the draft.

Since this draft is related to both MPLS and BFD, both working group chairs= are welcome to join the discussion.

See you in Montreal!

Best regards,
Mach
--000000000000ec53930590f87a9a-- From nobody Tue Aug 27 18:36:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12ED12081A; Tue, 27 Aug 2019 18:36:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alissa Cooper via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification@ietf.org, Loa Andersson , mpls-chairs@ietf.org, loa@pi.nu, mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.100.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Alissa Cooper Message-ID: <156695621665.22264.17125933410098208147.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 18:36:56 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-04: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 01:36:57 -0000 Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-04: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for addressing my DISCUSS. From nobody Thu Aug 29 02:15:02 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A8B120273; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 02:15:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Susan Hares via Datatracker To: Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-rmr.all@ietf.org, mpls@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.100.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Susan Hares Message-ID: <156707010100.21081.6369578151637642112@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 02:15:01 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-mpls-rmr-11 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 09:15:01 -0000 Reviewer: Susan Hares Review result: Has Nits Authors: Thank you for continuing to refine this document. Status: editorial nits: #1 - Section 3.3 paragraph 1, last sentence old/RMR is primarly intended for operation at the packet layer; however, parallel links at hte lambda or fiber layer result in parallel links at the packet layer./ question: Did you want to say /may result/ intead of /result/ #2 - Section 3.7 - Would be easier to read if you included a diagram. #3 - Section 4.4 - Would be easier to read if you included a diagram Rational for requesting diagram: You are explaining the technology that requires additional TLVs in other protocols (IGPS) #4 - Section 5 - (editorial only) This one section jars the reader to ask "why am I bothered with this section." I understand why you want to make this clear that this point. However, in section 1 you lay out the protocols. Do you also want to do this here? Either choice works technically. However this document is dually focused: summary of RMR concepts to those writing future specifications and RMR to those desiring to install these solutions. Does this section help those desiring to install these solutions to find the other document? 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--_000_F64C10EAA68C8044B33656FA214632C8A3A0577DMISOUT7MSGUSRDE_-- From nobody Fri Aug 30 11:10:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B2A120B84; Fri, 30 Aug 2019 11:10:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.100.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: mpls@ietf.org, db3546@att.com, The IESG , draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@ietf.org, Loa Andersson , rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, loa@pi.nu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <156718863800.25739.12429816733270116562.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 11:10:38 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] Protocol Action: 'RFC8287 Sub-TLV Length Clarification' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-04.txt) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 18:10:46 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'RFC8287 Sub-TLV Length Clarification' (draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification-04.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Martin Vigoureux and Deborah Brungard. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-rfc8287-len-clarification/ Technical Summary RFC8287 defines the extensions to MPLS LSP Ping and Traceroute for Segment Routing IGP-Prefix and IGP-Adjacency Segment Identifier (SIDs) with an MPLS data plane. RFC 8287 proposes 3 Target FEC Stack Sub-TLVs. While the standard defines the format and procedure to handle those Sub-TLVs, it does not sufficiently clarify how the length of the Segment ID Sub-TLVs should be computed to include in the Length field of the Sub-TLVs which may result in interoperability issues. Working Group Summary There were no controversies progressing this document, the support in the working group is solid. Document Quality In this case the question of existing implementations is a bit tricky, the document is a clarification to RFC 8287, of which there are implementations. The problem with the Segment ID Sub-TLV was discovered when preparing inter-op test of RFC 8287. Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Loa Andersson Who is the Responsible Area Director? 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pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E9145363754; Sat, 31 Aug 2019 11:22:01 +0200 (CEST) To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "mpls@ietf.org" Cc: "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" References: From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <05227e90-aa23-8e5b-2a80-cb4ce91a83e0@pi.nu> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 11:21:58 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] Late IPRs filed on draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 09:22:07 -0000 Deborah, et.al., I thought this was a simple update of the IPR disclosed against draft-chandra-mpls-enhanced-frr-bypass submitted April 13, 2015. draft-chandra-mpls-enhanced-frr-bypass was replaced by draft-ietf-chandra-ri-rsvp-frr and then by draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr. However, I tried to an IPR search, but I'm still unclear if that is the case. Anyone that have a better IPR search tool than Google? /Loa On 2019-08-30 19:07, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote: > Hi, > > Im preparing to IETF Last Call this document and noted there were two > late IPRs filed on draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr (after WG Last Call). > Please let your Chairs/myself know if any concerns. > > Thanks- > > Deborah > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64