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Tarek Saad has requested publication of draft-ietf-mpls-sfl-framework-06 as Informational on behalf of the MPLS working group.

Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-sfl-framework/


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The MPLS WG has placed draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam in state
Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Loa Andersson)

The document is available at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam/

Comment:
MPLS-RT review, IPR poll and WGAP will be issued.


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Reviewer: Michael Richardson
Review result: Has Nits

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Subject: RtgDir review: draft-ietf-mpls-sfl-framework-06

Hello,

I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The
Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as
they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special
request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing
ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see
​http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir

Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it
would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last
Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion
or by updating the draft.

Document: draft-ietf-mpls-sfl-framework
Reviewer: Michael Richardson
Review Date: 2020-01-05
IETF LC End Date: unknown
Intended Status: Informational

Summary:
        This document is basically ready for publication, but has nits that should be
        considered prior to publication.

Comments:
        This document is clearly written and easy to understand.
        I would have preferred to have a stronger link back to the requirements given
        in RFC8372.  I see how no significant data-plane changes are required on
        intermediate routers.  It would be nice to be sure that they are also
        minimized at the edges.  Are current OAM mechanisms able to obtain sufficient
        granalarity in latency to collect the right data?

        Given that no IANA actions are required, and no mechanisms are described to
        collect the data, or allocate the SFLs, I understand why this is an
        Informational document.  I don't see how it will contribute to better
        interoperation.  Do we even need to publish this?

Major Issues:
        No major issues found

Minor Issues:

section 3:
        "By some method outside the scope of this text, two labels"

It seems that there might be significant operational and/or privacy issues
with this assumption.  It would be good if the reader had some idea of where
to look for a protocol which would be easily adapted to this need.

Nits:
I think that starting the abstract with [RFCxxxx] may not be accepted by the
RFC-editor.  Maybe a single sentence summary is needed.




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Hi Tarek,

Thanks for the replies and the new revision, and sorry for the late
response.

Your recent revision addresses most of my comments.

Please find one further comment below:

On 29.12.19 20:38, Tarek Saad wrote:
> […]
>     3.3
>     "the PLR MUST ensure bypass tunnel assignment can satisfy the protected LSP MTU
>     requirements post FRR" - Is there an existing mechanism to do this?
> [TS]: Section 2.6 in RFC3209 describes a mechanism to determine whether a node should fragment or drop a packet that exceeds the Path MTU as discovered using RSVP signaling on primary LSP path. A PLR can leverage the RSVP discovered Path MTU on the backup and primary LSP path to ensure MTU is not exceeded after rerouting traffic on to the bypass tunnel.

I think it'd be helpful to add a reference to that RFC and section here.

Best,
Theresa


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Thanks for the work on this.  I have a couple of minor substantive comments and
a number of editorial ones.

Substantive, but minor:

— Section 3.1.1 and throughout —
Should the “reserved” fields, which say, “Reserved for future use,” also add
the customary, “MUST be set to zero and ignored on receipt”?

— Section 3.1.2 —

   The MESSAGE_ID object flags SHOULD be cleared when
   transmitted by the PLR and ignored when received at the MP.

Why SHOULD and not MUST?  How do things interoperate properly if this isn’t
done, and what reasons might there be for not doing it?

Editorial:

— Section 1 —
Please expand  “LER”, “LSP”, and “LSR” on first use.

— Section 3 —

   For example, in the context of
   GMPLS-controlled LSP(s), the object is used to associate recovery
   LSPs with the LSP they are protecting.

There might be a number agreement problem here: as it’s written, it implies
that multiple recovery LSPs might protect a single LSP, and a single
ASSOCIATION object is used for all of them.  If that’s the case, then no change
is needed.

But it’s likely that you want to make everything either singular or plural:

“the objects are used to associate recovery LSPs with the LSPs they are
protecting.”

...or...

“the object is used to associate a recovery LSP with the LSP it is protecting.”

— Sections 3.2.1 and 3.2.2 —

   Bypass_Group_Identifier: 32 bits
      The Bypass_Group_Identifier that is previously signaled by the PLR
      using the Extended Association object.  One or more
      Bypass_Group_Identifiers MAY be included.

1. I would say “32 bits each”.
2. The definite article (“The Bypass_Group_Identifier”) doesn’t go with the
fact that there can be more than one of them.  Also “is” doesn’t go with
“previously”.

So, maybe:

NEW
   Bypass_Group_Identifier: 32 bits each
      A Bypass_Group_Identifier that was previously signaled by the PLR
      using the Extended Association object.  One or more
      Bypass_Group_Identifiers MAY be included.
END

— Section 3.4 —

   Upon detection of the fault (egress link or node failure)

Was there a fault we were talking about? Or should it be “a fault”?

— Section 3.4.2 —

   each protected LSP associated with each Bypass_Group_Identifier, as
   if it received an individual RSVP Path messages for that LSP.

Make it, “as if it had received an individual RSVP Path message”.

— Section 5 —

   When using procedures defined in this document, FRR (or the reroute
   of protected LSP(s) on to the bypass tunnel) can be activated on per
   group of protected LSP(s).

I can’t parse “can be activated on per group”, and, hence, don’t understand it.
 Can you fix it?



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Part of this preparation is to do an IPR poll.



This mail is to start the IPR poll.



Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology?



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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">We are currently preparing d=
raft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology for working group last call.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Part of this preparation is =
to do an IPR poll.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">This mail is to start the IP=
R poll.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Are you aware of any IPR tha=
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">If so, has this IPR been dis=
closed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 537=
8 for more details).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">There are no IPR disclosure =
directly against draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">If you are listed as a docum=
ent author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whethe=
r or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. *The response needs to be sent =
to the MPLS WG mailing list.* The document
 will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from=
 each author and contributor.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Best regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; Nic<o:p></o:p></p>
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Hi Nic,

 

I am not aware of any IPR that needs to be disclosed relevant to this draft.

 

Thanks,

Adrian

 

From: N.Leymann@telekom.de <N.Leymann@telekom.de> 
Sent: 17 February 2020 15:24
To: draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org;
mpls-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: IPR Poll on draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology.txt

 

Dear Working Group,

 

We are currently preparing draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology for working group
last call.

 

Part of this preparation is to do an IPR poll.

 

This mail is to start the IPR poll.

 

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology?

 

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see
RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

 

There are no IPR disclosure directly against
draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology. 

 

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this
email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. *The
response needs to be sent to the MPLS WG mailing list.* The document will
not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each
author and contributor.

 

If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR
that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.

 

Best regards

 

   Nic

 


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class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I am not =
aware of any IPR that needs to be disclosed relevant to this =
draft.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> N.Leymann@telekom.de =
&lt;N.Leymann@telekom.de&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> 17 February 2020 =
15:24<br><b>To:</b> draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology@ietf.org; =
mpls@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org<br><b>Subject:</b> IPR Poll on =
draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Dear Working Group,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US>We are currently preparing =
draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology for working group last =
call.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Part of this preparation is to do an IPR =
poll.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>This mail is to start the IPR poll.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US>Are you aware of any IPR that =
applies to draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US>If so, has this IPR been =
disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 =
and 5378 for more details).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US>There are no IPR disclosure =
directly against draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
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lang=3DEN-US>If you are listed as a document author or contributor =
please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware =
of any relevant IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS WG =
mailing list.* The document will not advance to the next stage until a =
response has been received from each author and =
contributor.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US>If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as =
an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are =
aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with =
IETF rules.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DDE>Best regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DDE><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DDE>&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Nic<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Nic,

I'm not aware of any IPR that relates to this draft.


/Loa

On 17/02/2020 23:23, N.Leymann@telekom.de wrote:
> Dear Working Group,
> 
> We are currently preparing draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology for working 
> group last call.
> 
> Part of this preparation is to do an IPR poll.
> 
> This mail is to start the IPR poll.
> 
> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology?
> 
> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules 
> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
> 
> There are no IPR disclosure directly against 
> draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology.
> 
> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to 
> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant 
> IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS WG mailing list.* The 
> document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been 
> received from each author and contributor.
> 
> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or 
> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any 
> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
> 
> Best regards
> 
>     Nic
> 
> 
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To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>, "N.Leymann@telekom.de" <N.Leymann@telekom.de>,  "draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology@ietf.org>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" <mpls-chairs@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR Poll on draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology.txt
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I=92m not aware of any IPR that relates to this draft.

Cheers,
Kireeti
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Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR Poll on draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology.txt

Nic,

I'm not aware of any IPR that relates to this draft.


/Loa

On 17/02/2020 23:23, N.Leymann@telekom.de wrote:
> Dear Working Group,
>
> We are currently preparing draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology for working
> group last call.
>
> Part of this preparation is to do an IPR poll.
>
> This mail is to start the IPR poll.
>
> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology?
>
> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
>
> There are no IPR disclosure directly against
> draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology.
>
> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
> IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS WG mailing list.* The
> document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been
> received from each author and contributor.
>
> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any
> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
>
> Best regards
>
>     Nic
>
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I'm not aware of any IPR that relates to this draft.<br>
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/Loa<br>
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On 17/02/2020 23:23, N.Leymann@telekom.de wrote:<br>
&gt; Dear Working Group,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; We are currently preparing draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology for working=
 <br>
&gt; group last call.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Part of this preparation is to do an IPR poll.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; This mail is to start the IPR poll.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminolo=
gy?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules <=
br>
&gt; (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; There are no IPR disclosure directly against <br>
&gt; draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond t=
o <br>
&gt; this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant =
<br>
&gt; IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS WG mailing list.* The =
<br>
&gt; document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been =
<br>
&gt; received from each author and contributor.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author o=
r <br>
&gt; contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of a=
ny <br>
&gt; IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.<br=
>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Best regards<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Nic<br>
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From: Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020, 14:04
To: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; Mach Chen
Cc: draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam@ietf.org
Subject: RE: MPLS-RT review of draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam


Hello,

I have been selected as one of the  MPLS-RT reviewers of draft-hegde-mpls-=
spring-epe-oam.



This review presumably is part of the process of adoption of this draft as=
 an MPLS WG document, and should answer the following questions:

1.       Does this draft address a real problem?

2.       Is the current version a reasonably good start for solving this p=
roblem?

3.       Are there any issues that must be fixed prior to adoption of the =
draft as a WG document?



After reading the draft I think that the answers to questions (1) and (2) =
above are positive.



I have a couple of technical issues with the draft listed below.



1.       All sub-TLVs defined in the draft include lists of pair of local =
and remote IPv4 or IPv6 addresses describing links between the advertising=
 node and the eBGP neighbor for which the EPE SID is advertised.

a.       I wonder if link-local IPv6 addresses are acceptable in these lis=
ts

b.       I also wonder how unnumbered P2P IPv4 interfaces could be specifi=
ed in these lists.

2.       All sub-TLVs defined in the draft include, as one of their files =
the field =93Local AS=94 that is always defined as =944 octet unsigned int=
eger representing the Member ASN inside the Confederation=94. I wonder if =
this definition equally applies to the case when the so-called =93Local AS=
=94 mechanism defined in RFC 7705<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7705> is =
used vs. a specific eBGP peer. In these scenarios the number of the AS to =
which the node that advertises an EPE SID differs from the AS number that =
this node uses in its OPEN message to the specific neighbor.

3.       The document states in Section 1 that =93Other procedures for mpl=
s ping and traceroute as=20defined in [RFC8287<https://tools.ietf.org/html=
/rfc8287>] are applicable for EPE-SIDs as well=94.

a.       Such a blank statement requires some clarification IMHO

b.       Specifically, RFC 8287 states in Section that the Traceroute init=
iator, upon receiving an MPLS Echo Reply message that includes the FEC Sta=
ck Change TLV with one or more of the original segments being popped =93MA=
Y remove a corresponding FEC(s) from the Target FEC          Stack TLV in =
the next (TTL+1) traceroute request=94. I wonder if, in the case of EPE SI=
Ds, MAY requirement should not be upgraded to SHOULD or even MUST for secu=
rity reasons



Neither of the issues mentioned above looks to be as blocking WG adoption =
of the draft. They can safely be resolved after adoption.



Hopefully this review will be useful.



Regards,

Sasha



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-----Original Message-----
From: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 6:53 AM
To: Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) <matthew.bocci@nokia.com>; Alexander Vains=
htein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>; Sam Aldrin <aldrin.ietf@gmail.co=
m>; Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>
Cc: draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: MPLS-RT review of draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam



Mathew, Sam, Sasha and Italo,



You have be selected as MPLS-RT reviewers for draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-=
oam.



Note to authors: You have been CC'd on this email so that you can know tha=
t this review is going on. However, please do not review your own document=
.



Reviews should comment on whether the document is coherent, is it useful (=
ie, is it likely to be actually useful in operational networks), and is th=
e document technically sound?  We are interested in knowing whether the do=
cument is ready to be considered for WG adoption (ie, it doesn't have to b=
e perfect at this point, but should be a good start).



Reviews should be sent to the document authors, WG co-chairs and WG secret=
ary, and CC'd to the MPLS WG email list. If necessary, comments may be sen=
t privately to only the WG chairs.



If you have technical comments you should try to be explicit about what

*really* need to be resolved before adopting it as a working group documen=
t, and what can wait until the document is a working group document and th=
e working group has the revision control.



Are you able to review this draft by Feb 28, 2020? Please respond in a tim=
ely fashion.





Thanks, Loa

(as MPLS WG chair)

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"><span style=3D"">1.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
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</span></span><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>Does this draft address a real prob=
lem?</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt; text-indent:-18.0pt=
"><span style=3D"">2.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>Is the current version a reasonably=
 good start for solving this problem?</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt; text-indent:-18.0pt=
"><span style=3D"">3.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>Are there any issues that must be f=
ixed prior to adoption of the draft as a WG document?
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">After reading the draft I think that the answers=
 to questions (1) and (2) above are positive.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">I have a couple of technical issues with the dra=
ft listed below.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt; text-indent:-18.0pt=
"><span style=3D"">1.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>All sub-TLVs defined in the draft i=
nclude lists of pair of local and remote IPv4 or IPv6 addresses describing=
 links between the advertising node and the eBGP neighbor for which the EP=
E SID is advertised.
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt; text-indent:-18.0pt=
"><span style=3D"">a.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>I wonder if link-local IPv6 address=
es are acceptable in these lists</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt; text-indent:-18.0pt=
"><span style=3D"">b.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>I also wonder how unnumbered P2P IP=
v4 interfaces could be specified in these lists.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt; text-indent:-18.0pt=
"><span style=3D"">2.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>All sub-TLVs defined in the draft i=
nclude, as one of their files the field =93Local AS=94 that is always defi=
ned as =944 octet unsigned integer representing the Member ASN inside the =
Confederation=94. I wonder if this definition
 equally applies to the case when the so-called =93Local AS=94 mechanism d=
efined in <a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7705" data-ogsc=3D"" s=
tyle=3D"">
RFC 7705</a> is used vs. a specific eBGP peer. In these scenarios the numb=
er of the AS to which the node that advertises an EPE SID differs from the=
 AS number that this node uses in its OPEN message to the specific neighbo=
r.
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt; text-indent:-18.0pt=
"><span style=3D"">3.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>The document states in Section 1 th=
at =93Other procedures for mpls ping and traceroute as defined in [<a href=
=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8287" data-ogsc=3D"" style=3D"">RFC8287=
</a>] are applicable for EPE-SIDs as well=94.
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt; text-indent:-18.0pt=
"><span style=3D"">a.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>Such a blank statement requires som=
e clarification IMHO</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt; text-indent:-18.0pt=
"><span style=3D"">b.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>Specifically, RFC 8287 states in Se=
ction that the Traceroute initiator, upon receiving an MPLS Echo Reply mes=
sage that includes the FEC Stack Change TLV with one or more of the origin=
al segments being popped =93MAY remove
 a corresponding FEC(s) from the Target FEC &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Stack TLV in the next (TTL&#43;1) traceroute reque=
st=94. I wonder if, in the case of EPE SIDs, MAY requirement should not be=
 upgraded to SHOULD or even MUST for security reasons</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Neither of the issues mentioned above looks to b=
e as blocking WG adoption of the draft. They can safely be resolved after =
adoption.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Hopefully this review will be useful.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Regards,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Sasha</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Office: &#43;972-39266302</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Cell:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;972-549=
266302</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Email:&nbsp;&nbsp; Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.=
com</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Loa Andersson &lt;loa@pi.nu&gt; <br>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 6:53 AM<br>
To: Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) &lt;matthew.bocci@nokia.com&gt;; Alexander=
 Vainshtein &lt;Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com&gt;; Sam Aldrin &lt;aldri=
n.ietf@gmail.com&gt;; Italo Busi &lt;Italo.Busi@huawei.com&gt;<br>
Cc: draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org<br>
Subject: MPLS-RT review of draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Mathew, Sam, Sasha and Italo,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">You have be selected as MPLS-RT reviewers for dr=
aft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Note to authors: You have been CC'd on this emai=
l so that you can know that this review is going on. However, please do no=
t review your own document.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Reviews should comment on whether the document i=
s coherent, is it useful (ie, is it likely to be actually useful in operat=
ional networks), and is the document technically sound?&nbsp; We are inter=
ested in knowing whether the document is ready
 to be considered for WG adoption (ie, it doesn't have to be perfect at th=
is point, but should be a good start).</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Reviews should be sent to the document authors, =
WG co-chairs and WG secretary, and CC'd to the MPLS WG email list. If nece=
ssary, comments may be sent privately to only the WG chairs.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">If you have technical comments you should try to=
 be explicit about what</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">*really* need to be resolved=20before adopting i=
t as a working group document, and what can wait until the document is a w=
orking group document and the working group has the revision control.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Are you able to review this draft by Feb 28, 202=
0? Please respond in a timely fashion.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thanks, Loa</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">(as MPLS WG chair)</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">--</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-- </p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Loa Andersson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; email: <a href=3D"mailto:loa@pi.nu" data-ogs=
c=3D"" style=3D"">
<span style=3D"color: windowtext; text-decoration: none;">loa@pi.nu</span>=
</a></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Senior MPLS Expert</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Bronze Dragon Consulting&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; phone: &#43;46 739 81 21 =
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This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF.

        Title           : A YANG Data Model for MPLS Base
        Authors         : Tarek Saad
                          Kamran Raza
                          Rakesh Gandhi
                          Xufeng Liu
                          Vishnu Pavan Beeram
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-base-yang-12.txt
	Pages           : 19
	Date            : 2020-02-18

Abstract:
   This document contains a specification of the MPLS base YANG model.
   The MPLS base YANG model serves as a base framework for configuring
   and managing an MPLS switching subsystem on an MPLS-enabled router.
   It is expected that other MPLS YANG models (e.g.  MPLS LSP Static,
   LDP or RSVP-TE YANG models) will augment the MPLS base YANG model.


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Thanks for quickly addressing the nits/comments from the TSV-ART review (Gorry
thanks for the review!)!



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Title: LS on OTNT Standardization Work Plan Issue 27
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Body: Attached is Issue 27 of the OTNT SWP, the latest version updated by the SG15 during a plenary meeting in February 2020.

We would appreciate updates to the material relevant to your SDO.

Attachment: Optical Transport Networks & Technologies Standardization Work Plan Issue 27, February 2020
Attachments:

    SG15-LS245
    https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2020-02-19-itu-t-sg-15-mpls-ccamp-pce-pals-teas-ls-on-otnt-standardization-work-plan-issue-27-attachment-1.pdf

    SG15-LS245-Att-OTN-issue27
    https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2020-02-19-itu-t-sg-15-mpls-ccamp-pce-pals-teas-ls-on-otnt-standardization-work-plan-issue-27-attachment-2.pdf


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Title: LS - Intent to initiate the approval process for revised MPLS-TP Recommendations
Submission Date: 2020-02-19
URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1674/

From: Hiroshi Ota <hiroshi.ota@itu.int>
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Body: ITU-T SG15 wishes to inform the IETF MPLS WG of our intent to initiate the approval process for the following documents related to MPLS-TP at the September 2020 plenary meeting of Study Group 15:

- Revised Recommendation ITU-T G.8112/Y.1371, Interfaces for the MPLS transport
- Amendment 1 to Recommendation ITU-T G.8110.1/Y.1370.1, Architecture of the Multi-Protocol Label Switching transport profile layer network
- Revised Recommendation ITU-T G.8151 Management aspects of the MPLS-TP network element
- New Recommendation ITU-T G.8152.1 MPLS-TP NE OAM Information Model & Data Model
- New Recommendation ITU-T G.8152.2 MPLS-TP NE Resilience Information Model & Data Model
We would appreciate any comments you may have on these documents.
The next meeting of ITU-T SG15 is in Geneva, Switzerland, 7-18 September 2020.
Attachments TD513R1/3, TD562/3, TD556/3, TD486R1/3, TD487R1/3
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    SG15-LS249
    https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2020-02-19-itu-t-sg-15-mpls-ls-intent-to-initiate-the-approval-process-for-revised-mpls-tp-recommendations-attachment-1.pdf

    T17-SG15-200127-TD-WP3-0486!R1!MSW-E
    https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2020-02-19-itu-t-sg-15-mpls-ls-intent-to-initiate-the-approval-process-for-revised-mpls-tp-recommendations-attachment-2.pdf

    T17-SG15-200127-TD-WP3-0487!R1!MSW-E
    https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2020-02-19-itu-t-sg-15-mpls-ls-intent-to-initiate-the-approval-process-for-revised-mpls-tp-recommendations-attachment-3.pdf

    T17-SG15-200127-TD-WP3-0513!R1!MSW-E
    https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2020-02-19-itu-t-sg-15-mpls-ls-intent-to-initiate-the-approval-process-for-revised-mpls-tp-recommendations-attachment-4.pdf

    T17-SG15-200127-TD-WP3-0556!!MSW-E
    https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2020-02-19-itu-t-sg-15-mpls-ls-intent-to-initiate-the-approval-process-for-revised-mpls-tp-recommendations-attachment-5.pdf

    T17-SG15-200127-TD-WP3-0562!!MSW-E
    https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2020-02-19-itu-t-sg-15-mpls-ls-intent-to-initiate-the-approval-process-for-revised-mpls-tp-recommendations-attachment-6.pdf


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Theresa, thanks for your review. Tarek, thanks for addressing =
Theresa=E2=80=99s comments. I entered a No Objection ballot.

Alissa


> On Feb 11, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi Theresa,
>=20
> Thanks again for your feedback and confirmation.
> The document has been scheduled for a telechat. I accept your =
suggestion, and I'll hold your comment for the next update of the =
document.
>=20
> Regards,
> Tarek
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> =EF=BB=BFOn 2/11/20, 12:23 PM, "Theresa Enghardt" <ietf@tenghardt.net> =
wrote:
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>    Hi Tarek,
>=20
>    Thanks for the replies and the new revision, and sorry for the late
>    response.
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>    Your recent revision addresses most of my comments.
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>    Please find one further comment below:
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>    On 29.12.19 20:38, Tarek Saad wrote:
>> [=E2=80=A6]
>>    3.3
>>    "the PLR MUST ensure bypass tunnel assignment can satisfy the =
protected LSP MTU
>>    requirements post FRR" - Is there an existing mechanism to do =
this?
>> [TS]: Section 2.6 in RFC3209 describes a mechanism to determine =
whether a node should fragment or drop a packet that exceeds the Path =
MTU as discovered using RSVP signaling on primary LSP path. A PLR can =
leverage the RSVP discovered Path MTU on the backup and primary LSP path =
to ensure MTU is not exceeded after rerouting traffic on to the bypass =
tunnel.
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>    I think it'd be helpful to add a reference to that RFC and section =
here.
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Nice and simple.  Thanks!

RFC 2961 says that MESSAGE_ID objects are "always generated and
processed over a single hop between RSVP neighbors", but IIRC the PLR
and MP need not be immediate neighbors.  Has this restriction from RFC
2961 already been lifted by some other document that we can reference
(e.g., in Section 3.1.x where we say "a MESSAGE_ID object as defined by
[RFC2961]")?

Is it generally understood that "Reserved for future use." means "set to
zero on transmit and ignore on receipt, until further notice"?

Section 1

   similar number of LSPs that ingress on the same link.  In the event
   of the failure of the link or neighbor node, the RSVP-TE control
   plane of the node when acting as a PLR becomes busy rerouting
   protected LSPs signaling over the bypass tunnel(s) in one direction,

nit: I think there's a singular/plural (possessive?) mismatch near
"LSPs".

Section 3


   The PLR SHOULD assign the same Bypass_Group_Identifier to all
   protected LSPs that egress the same protected interface and are
   protected by the same bypass tunnel.  This minimizes the number of
   bypass tunnel SFRR groups, and optimizes the amount of signaling
   needed between the PLR and the MP after FRR.
   [...]
   The PLR SHOULD assign the same Bypass_Group_Identifier to all
   protected LSPs that share the egress link, and bypass tunnel as long
   as the protected LSP(s) have the common group attributes, including
   the modified tunnel sender address used for backup path
   identification as described in [RFC4090].

Is one of these a superset of the other?

   The MP maintains the PLR group assignments learned via signaling, and
   acknowledges the group assignments via signaling.  Once the PLR
   receives the acknowledgment, FRR signaling can proceed as group
   based.

nit: "group-based" is (1) hyphenated, and (2) an adjective, so we need a
noun to hang it off of.

   The PLR node that supports Summary FRR procedures adds an Extended
   ASSOCIATION object with B-SFRR-Ready Extended Association ID in the

nit: I'd suggest s/The/A/ since there's probably more than one PLR node
that meets these criteria, globally.

Section 3.1.2

   to [RFC2961].  The MESSAGE_ID object flags SHOULD be cleared when
   transmitted by the PLR and ignored when received at the MP.

When might this SHOULD be ignored?  (Are there cases where a MP might
assign semantics to a received flag that was not intentionally set by
the PLR with intent to induce those semantics?)

   Resv message (with exception of the MESSAGE_ID).  If the fields do
   not match, or if B-SFRR-Ready Extended ASSOCIATION object is absent
   in a subsequent refresh, the PLR node MUST consider the protected LSP
   as not Summary FRR capable.

This "absent in a subsequent refresh" makes me wonder about race
conditions where the PLR tries to refresh and the MP removes the
B-SFRR-Ready nature in its Resv, but the PLR attempts to engage the
bypass before the Resv makes its way to the PLR -- the PLR thinks the
bundled protection is active but the MP does not.  Is this just "normal
operation" and not worth worrying about?

Section 3.2.x

      The Bypass_Group_Identifier that is previously signaled by the PLR
      using the Extended Association object.  One or more
      Bypass_Group_Identifiers MAY be included.

nit: s/is/was/ (I think?)

      Replacement TIME_VALUES object to be applied to all LSPs
      associated with each of the following Bypass_Group_Identifiers
      after receiving the B-SFRR-Active Extended ASSOCIATION Object.

nit: s/following/preceding/ (I think?)

Section 3.3

   The facility backup method introduced in [RFC4090] takes advantage of
   MPLS label stacking (PLR imposing additional MPLS label post FRR) to
   allow rerouting of protected traffic over backup path.  The backup

nit: s/over backup path/over the backup path/

Section 3.3.2

   Note, an MP may receive more than one RSVP Path message with the B-
   SFRR-Ready Extended ASSOCIATION object from different upstream PLR
   node(s).  In this case, the MP node is expected to save all the
   received MESSAGE_IDs from the different upstream PLR node(s).  After
   a failure, the MP node determines and activates the associated
   Summary Refresh ID to use once it receives and processes the RSVP
   Path message containing B-SFRR-Active Extended ASSOCIATION object
   that is signaled over the bypass tunnel from the PLR, as described
   Section 3.4

What is a "Summary Refresh ID" and where is it defined?  I don't see it
either here or in RFC 2961.

Section 3.4

   The PLR MUST signal non-Summary FRR capable LSPs over the bypass
   tunnel before signaling the Summary FRR capable LSPs.  This is needed
   to allow for the case where the PLR node recently changed a bypass
   assignment and the MP has not processed the change yet.

Talking through this, there's two main cases for "changed a bypass
assignment", right -- "added an LSP to a group" and "removed an LSP from
a group"?  For the "removed from a group" case I see how this helps,
since the PLR sends an explicit change and the MP can assume that the
explicit change overrides any former group membership.  But I'm not sure
how/whether this helps with the "added to a group" change.

Section 3.4.1

   The RSVP_HOP_Object field in the B-SFRR-Active Extended ASSOCIATION
   ID is set to the common RSVP_HOP that was used by the PLR in
   Section 3.3 of this document.

I see something more plausible as a target for this reference in Section
3.2(.x) than in Section 3.3(.x).

Section 3.4.2

   1.  The RSVP_HOP object is copied from the B-SFRR-Active Extended
       ASSOCIATION ID.

   2.  The TIME_VALUES object is copied from the TIMES_VALUE field in
       the B-SFRR-Active Extended ASSOCIATION ID.  The TIME_VALUES

nit: I suggest using a parallel linguistic construction for all the
steps (e.g., always or never include "from the <FOO> field in").

Section 5

   When using procedures defined in this document, FRR (or the reroute
   of protected LSP(s) on to the bypass tunnel) can be activated on per
   group of protected LSP(s).  This allows an intruder to potentially
   impact and manipulate a set of protected LSP that are assigned to the
   same bypass tunnel group.

I'd consider saying something about how "new attacks enabled by
these mechanisms would also be possible without these mechanisms, just
at a higher cost in signalling messages" (with the possible exception of
the race condition I mentioned earlier).



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Hello

it's getting late here so please dismiss any tiredness induced comment.

       3.1.1.  IPv4 B-SFRR-Ready IPv4 Extended ASSOCIATION ID  . . .   7
       3.1.2.  IPv6 B-SFRR-Ready IPv6 Extended ASSOCIATION ID  . . .   8
IPv4 and IPv6 appear twice. Not sure the second is needed.

You leave unspecified how to set the Global Association Source of Extended
ASSOCIATION object. If it is as in 6780 then I suggest to explicitly say it.
Indeed you explicitly refer to 4872 for the three other fields.

It might be a stupid thing to do, but the text is not clear on whether an IPv4
B-SFRR-Ready Extended ASSOCIATION ID can be added as the Extended Association
ID of an IPv6 Extended ASSOCIATION object and vice versa. Text is clear for
B-SFRR-Active however.

Why the MP does the test on the Bypass_Destination_Address:
   When forwarding an RSVP Path message downstream, the MP SHOULD remove
   any/all B-SFRR-Ready Extended ASSOCIATION object(s) whose Association
   ID contains Bypass_Destination_Address matching the MP node address.
while the PLR does it on the association source (and not on the
Bypass_Source_Address):
   Note, when forwarding an RSVP Resv message upstream, the PLR node
   SHOULD remove any/all B-SFRR-Ready Extended ASSOCIATION objects whose
   Association Source matches the PLR node address.

By the way, Bypass_Destination_Address does not exist per se in your spec, only
Bypass_Destination_IPv4_Address and Bypass_Destination_IPv6_Address

   The RSVP_HOP_Object field in the B-SFRR-Active Extended ASSOCIATION
   ID is set to the common RSVP_HOP that was used by the PLR in
   Section 3.3 of this document.
There is no mention of RSVP_HOP in Section 3.3



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Hi,

I've briefly reviewed this document (as the incoming Mgmt AD).  I had a que=
stion regarding the manageability of this protocol update:

Is this protocol extension expected to be enabled by configuration?  If so,=
 is there a YANG model in development that covers this?

Ideally, the YANG model would both cover configuration, and also any pertin=
ent operational state required to correctly monitor the protocol extension.

Regards,
Rob

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I&#8217;ve briefly reviewed this document (as the in=
coming Mgmt AD).&nbsp; I had a question regarding the manageability of this=
 protocol update:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Is this protocol extension expected to be enabled by=
 configuration?&nbsp; If so, is there a YANG model in development that cove=
rs this?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ideally, the YANG model would both cover configurati=
on, and also any pertinent operational state required to correctly monitor =
the protocol extension.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Regards,<br>
Rob<o:p></o:p></p>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping/Traceroute for Segment Routing (SR) Egress Peer Engineering Segment Identifiers (SIDs) with MPLS Data Planes
        Authors         : Shraddha Hegde
                          Kapil Arora
                          Mukul Srivastava
                          Samson Ninan
                          Xiaohu Xu
	Filename        : draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam-05.txt
	Pages           : 12
	Date            : 2020-02-24

Abstract:
   Egress Peer Engineering (EPE) is an application of Segment Routing to
   Solve the problem of egress peer selection.  The Segment Routing
   based BGP-EPE solution allows a centralized controller, e.g. a
   Software Defined Network (SDN) controller to program any egress peer.
   The EPE solution requires a node to program the PeerNode SID
   describing a session between two nodes, the PeerAdj SID describing
   the link (one or more) that is used by sessions between peer nodes,
   and the PeerSet SID describing an arbitrary set of sessions or links
   between a local node and its peers.  This document provides new sub-
   TLVs for EPE Segment Identifiers (SID) that would be used in the MPLS
   Target stack TLV (Type 1), in MPLS Ping and Traceroute procedures.


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF.

        Title           : RSVP-TE Summary Fast Reroute Extensions for LSP Tunnels
        Authors         : Mike Taillon
                          Tarek Saad
                          Rakesh Gandhi
                          Abhishek Deshmukh
                          Markus Jork
                          Vishnu Pavan Beeram
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte-09.txt
	Pages           : 21
	Date            : 2020-02-26

Abstract:
   This document updates RFC 4090 for the Resource Reservation Protocol
   (RSVP) Traffic-Engineering (TE) procedures defined for facility
   backup protection.  The updates include extensions that reduce the
   amount of signaling and processing that occurs during Fast Reroute
   (FRR), and subsequently, improves scalability when undergoing FRR
   convergence after a link or node failure.  These extensions allow the
   RSVP message exchange between the Point of Local Repair (PLR) and the
   Merge Point (MP) nodes to be independent of the number of protected
   Label Switched Paths (LSPs) traversing between them when facility
   bypass FRR protection is used.  The signaling extensions are fully
   backwards compatible with nodes that do not support them.


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To: Tarek Saad <tsaad@juniper.net>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte@ietf.org>, "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" <mpls-chairs@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [mpls] Barry Leiba's No Objection on draft-ietf-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte-08: (with COMMENT)
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Thanks, Tarek, for the response and for addressing my comments.
Everything looks good here.

Barry

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 9:13 AM Tarek Saad <tsaad@juniper.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks Barry for reviewing the document and for providing the comments. W=
e have posted version -09 that addresses them.
>
> Please see inline for responses.
>
> =EF=BB=BFOn 2/12/20, 12:07 AM, "Barry Leiba via Datatracker" <noreply@iet=
f.org> wrote:
>
>     Barry Leiba has entered the following ballot position for
>     draft-ietf-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte-08: No Objection
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>     COMMENT:
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>
>     Thanks for the work on this.  I have a couple of minor substantive co=
mments and
>     a number of editorial ones.
>
>     Substantive, but minor:
>
>     =E2=80=94 Section 3.1.1 and throughout =E2=80=94
>     Should the =E2=80=9Creserved=E2=80=9D fields, which say, =E2=80=9CRes=
erved for future use,=E2=80=9D also add
>     the customary, =E2=80=9CMUST be set to zero and ignored on receipt=E2=
=80=9D?
> [TS]: yes, this was explicitly stated in the new revision eliminate ambig=
uity.
>
>     =E2=80=94 Section 3.1.2 =E2=80=94
>
>        The MESSAGE_ID object flags SHOULD be cleared when
>        transmitted by the PLR and ignored when received at the MP.
>
>     Why SHOULD and not MUST?  How do things interoperate properly if this=
 isn=E2=80=99t
>     done, and what reasons might there be for not doing it?
> [TS]: After review, there is no reason for SHOULD and it was changed to M=
UST now.
>
>     Editorial:
>
>     =E2=80=94 Section 1 =E2=80=94
>     Please expand  =E2=80=9CLER=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9CLSP=E2=80=9D, and =E2=
=80=9CLSR=E2=80=9D on first use.
> [TS]: addressed.
>
>     =E2=80=94 Section 3 =E2=80=94
>
>        For example, in the context of
>        GMPLS-controlled LSP(s), the object is used to associate recovery
>        LSPs with the LSP they are protecting.
>
>     There might be a number agreement problem here: as it=E2=80=99s writt=
en, it implies
>     that multiple recovery LSPs might protect a single LSP, and a single
>     ASSOCIATION object is used for all of them.  If that=E2=80=99s the ca=
se, then no change
>     is needed.
>
> [TS]: For clarity, we reworded to align with text in RFC4872:
> NEW:
>    For example, in the context of
>    GMPLS-controlled LSP(s), the ASSOCIATION object is used to associate
>    a recovery LSP with the LSP(s) it is protecting.
> END
>
>     But it=E2=80=99s likely that you want to make everything either singu=
lar or plural:
>
>     =E2=80=9Cthe objects are used to associate recovery LSPs with the LSP=
s they are
>     protecting.=E2=80=9D
>
>     ...or...
>
>     =E2=80=9Cthe object is used to associate a recovery LSP with the LSP =
it is protecting.=E2=80=9D
>
>     =E2=80=94 Sections 3.2.1 and 3.2.2 =E2=80=94
>
>        Bypass_Group_Identifier: 32 bits
>           The Bypass_Group_Identifier that is previously signaled by the =
PLR
>           using the Extended Association object.  One or more
>           Bypass_Group_Identifiers MAY be included.
>
>     1. I would say =E2=80=9C32 bits each=E2=80=9D.
>     2. The definite article (=E2=80=9CThe Bypass_Group_Identifier=E2=80=
=9D) doesn=E2=80=99t go with the
>     fact that there can be more than one of them.  Also =E2=80=9Cis=E2=80=
=9D doesn=E2=80=99t go with
>     =E2=80=9Cpreviously=E2=80=9D.
>
>     So, maybe:
>
>     NEW
>        Bypass_Group_Identifier: 32 bits each
>           A Bypass_Group_Identifier that was previously signaled by the P=
LR
>           using the Extended Association object.  One or more
>           Bypass_Group_Identifiers MAY be included.
>     END
> [TS]: thanks, this was changed as per suggestion.
>
>     =E2=80=94 Section 3.4 =E2=80=94
>
>        Upon detection of the fault (egress link or node failure)
>
>     Was there a fault we were talking about? Or should it be =E2=80=9Ca f=
ault=E2=80=9D?
> [TS]: makes sense, this was changed to "a fault".
>
>     =E2=80=94 Section 3.4.2 =E2=80=94
>
>        each protected LSP associated with each Bypass_Group_Identifier, a=
s
>        if it received an individual RSVP Path messages for that LSP.
>
>     Make it, =E2=80=9Cas if it had received an individual RSVP Path messa=
ge=E2=80=9D.
> [TS]: ack, this was changed as above.
>
>     =E2=80=94 Section 5 =E2=80=94
>
>        When using procedures defined in this document, FRR (or the rerout=
e
>        of protected LSP(s) on to the bypass tunnel) can be activated on p=
er
>        group of protected LSP(s).
>
>     I can=E2=80=99t parse =E2=80=9Ccan be activated on per group=E2=80=9D=
, and, hence, don=E2=80=99t understand it.
>      Can you fix it?
> [TS]: this was revised to:
> NEW:
>    When using procedures defined in this document, FRR signaling for
>    rerouting of protected LSP(s) states on to the bypass tunnel can be
>    performed on a group of protected LSP(s) with a single RSVP message.
>    This allows an intruder to potentially impact and manipulate a set of
> END
>
> Regards,
> Tarek
>
>
>
>


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF.

        Title           : YANG Data Model for MPLS LDP
        Authors         : Kamran Raza
                          Rajiv Asati
                          Xufeng Liu
                          Santosh Esale
                          Xia Chen
                          Himanshu Shah
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-yang-08.txt
	Pages           : 93
	Date            : 2020-02-27

Abstract:
   This document describes a YANG data model for Multi-Protocol Label
   Switching (MPLS) Label Distribution Protocol (LDP).  The model also
   serves as the base model to define Multipoint LDP (mLDP) model.

   The YANG modules in this document conform to the Network Management
   Datastore Architecture (NMDA).


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Subject: [mpls] Protocol Action: 'RSVP-TE Summary Fast Reroute Extensions for LSP Tunnels' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte-09.txt)
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The IESG has approved the following document:
- 'RSVP-TE Summary Fast Reroute Extensions for LSP Tunnels'
  (draft-ietf-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte-09.txt) as Proposed Standard

This document is the product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working
Group.

The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Martin Vigoureux and Deborah
Brungard.

A URL of this Internet Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte/





Technical Summary

This document updates RFC 4090 for the Resource Reservation Protocol
(RSVP) Traffic-Engineering (TE) procedures defined for facility
backup protection.  The updates include extensions that reduce the
amount of signaling and processing that occurs during Fast Reroute
(FRR), and subsequently, improves scalability when undergoing FRR
convergence after a link or node failure.

Working Group Summary

No controversies, the working group supports this document. 

Document Quality

The document is in good shape and well written. The motivation for
defining the extensions is clear.

Personnel

   Who is the Document Shepherd for this document?  Nicolai Leymann
   Who is the Responsible Area Director?  Deborah Brungard


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Subject: [mpls] mpls - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 107
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Dear Mach Chen,

The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled.
Below is the scheduled session information followed by
the original request. 


    mpls Session 1 (2:00 requested)
    Thursday, 26 March 2020, Afternoon Session I 1330-1530
    Room Name: Regency C size: 300
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iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/sessions/mpls.ics

Request Information:


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Working Group Name: Multiprotocol Label Switching
Area Name: Routing Area
Session Requester: Mach Chen

Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):  2 Hours
Number of Attendees: 100
Conflicts to Avoid: 
 Chair Conflict: detnet bier pals idr bfd bess pce ccamp teas sfc
 Technology Overlap: spring lsr lsvr rtgwg rtgarea nvo3



People who must be present:
  Loa Andersson
  Deborah Brungard
  Nicolai Leymann
  Tarek Saad
  Mach(Guoyi) Chen

Resources Requested:

Special Requests:
  
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