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Hi there,

Did we have an agenda for this meeting. I don't see one in the data tracker.

Thanks.
Adrian

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Subject: [mpls] Multiprotocol Label Switching (mpls) WG Virtual Meeting:
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The Multiprotocol Label Switching (mpls) Working Group will hold
a virtual interim meeting on 2020-05-07 from 10:00 to 11:30 America/Toronto
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MPLS WG Virtual Interim Session 02

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I support the working group adoption of this draft.
thanks,
Samson

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 7:05 AM Kapil Arora <kapilaro@juniper.net> wrote:

> I support the working group adoption for this draft
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> To: mpls@ietf.org
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> Subject: working group adaption poll (wgap) for
> draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam
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> Working Group,
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> This is to start a two week poll on adopting
> draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam as a MPLS working group document.
>
> Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working group
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> The working group adoption poll ends May 15, 2020.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I support the=C2=A0working group adoption of this draft.<d=
iv>thanks,</div><div>Samson</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 7:05 AM Kapil Arora=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kapilaro@juniper.net">kapilaro@juniper.net</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I support =
the working group adoption for this draft<br>
<br>
<br>
Juniper Business Use Only<br>
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From: Loa Andersson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:loa@pi.nu" target=3D"_blank">loa@=
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Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:mpls-chairs@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">mpls-chairs@i=
etf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam@ietf.org" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam@ietf.org</a><br>
Subject: working group adaption poll (wgap) for draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe=
-oam<br>
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[External Email. Be cautious of content]<br>
<br>
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Working Group,<br>
<br>
This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oa=
m as a MPLS working group document.<br>
<br>
Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working group m=
ailing list (<a href=3D"mailto:mpls@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">mpls@ietf.o=
rg</a>). Please give a technical motivation for your support/not support, e=
specially if you think that the document should not be adopted as a working=
 group document.<br>
<br>
There is one IPR disclosure against this document.<br>
<br>
The authors have stated on the MPLS wg mailing list that they are unaware o=
f any IPRs that relates to this document.<br>
<br>
The working group adoption poll ends May 15, 2020.<br>
<br>
/Loa<br>
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Support.

//Krzysztof

> On 2020 -Apr-30, at 04:56, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
> 
> Working Group,
> 
> This is to start a two week poll on adopting
> draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam
> as a MPLS working group document.
> 
> Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working
> group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical
> motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that
> the document should not be adopted as a working group document.
> 
> There is one IPR disclosure against this document.
> 
> The authors have stated on the MPLS wg mailing list that they are
> unaware of any IPRs that relates to this document.
> 
> The working group adoption poll ends May 15, 2020.
> 
> /Loa
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> 
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Working Group,

Please respond to the survey, it is your chance to influence online
IETF meeting.

/Loa
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Please circulate this to your working group lists. The survey data will 
be very important as we plan future IETF meetings.

Thanks,
Alissa

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> This is a reminder that we need the IETF community to help us plan for 
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> possibly 2021 may not be able to go ahead in person.  You can help us 
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> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5328FFJ
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> So far we have 114 responses and we would ideally like 500 or more.
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> The survey contains the following pages and will take 15-20 minutes to 
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Special Purpose Label terminology
        Authors         : Loa Andersson
                          Kireeti Kompella
                          Adrian Farrel
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-02.txt
	Pages           : 6
	Date            : 2020-05-05

Abstract:
   This document discusses and recommends a terminology that may be used
   when MPLS Special Purpose Labels (SPL) are specified and documented.

   This document updates RFC 7274 and RFC 3032.


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF.

        Title           : OSPFv3 CodePoint for MPLS LSP Ping
        Authors         : Nagendra Kumar Nainar
                          Carlos Pignataro
                          Mustapha Aissaoui
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-ospfv3-codepoint-01.txt
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	Date            : 2020-05-06

Abstract:
   IANA has created "Protocol in the Segment IS Sub-TLV" registry and
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   Mapping TLV" under the "Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label
   Switched Paths (LSPs) Ping Parameters" registry.  RFC8287 defines the
   code point for different Interior Gateway Protocol (IGP).

   This document proposes the code point to be used in the Segment ID
   Sub-TLV and Downstream Detailed Mapping TLV when the IGP protocol is
   OSPFv3.  This document also clarifies that the existing codepoints of
   these two TLVs called "OSPF" shall only be used for OSPFv2.


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        Title           : OSPFv3 CodePoint for MPLS LSP Ping
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                          Carlos Pignataro
                          Mustapha Aissaoui
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-ospfv3-codepoint-02.txt
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   Mapping TLV" under the "Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label
   Switched Paths (LSPs) Ping Parameters" registry.  RFC8287 defines the
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   This document proposes the code point to be used in the Segment ID
   Sub-TLV and Downstream Detailed Mapping TLV when the IGP protocol is
   OSPFv3.  This document also clarifies that the existing codepoints of
   these two TLVs called "OSPF" shall only be used for OSPFv2.


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Hi MPLS,

Yes, support. This extension is useful, and I think it is ready for adoptio=
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Thanks,
Cheng


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Working Group,

This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oa=
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Hi Loa, WG,

I support the adoption of this work, it provides a useful
functionality that has been described well enough to be adopted by the
WG.

I do have a few suggestions and nits that the authors could take up later -

--

- I suggest adding a few more lines to build some context in your
Introduction section, the current text works for someone in the
know-how of MPLS-OAM/SR but fails to provide context for a general
reader.

- I suggest to expand the text in section 4, to clearly state that
this I-D is further specifying 3 more new sub-TLVs and also which TLVs
would carry these sub-TLVs etc.

- Some of the references mentioned as Informative are more suitable as
Normative, namely - [I-D.ietf-spring-segment-routing-central-epe], RFC
2119, RFC 8174, RFC 8690 (?)

Nits
- Abstract, you expand Segment Identifiers (SID) NOT on first use but
much later.
- Introduction, s/mpls/MPLS (multiple places)
- Section 2, s/e-BGP/EBGP (as per RFC Editor abbreviation preference)
- Section 4.1, Change ipv4/ipv6 to IPv4/IPv6 (multiple places)
- Section 4.1, Expand FFS!
- Section 5, s/SHOuLD/SHOULD
- Section 5, fix the over-running lines (exceeding 80 chars)

--

Regards,
Dhruv

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 8:27 AM Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
>
> Working Group,
>
> This is to start a two week poll on adopting
> draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam
> as a MPLS working group document.
>
> Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working
> group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical
> motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that
> the document should not be adopted as a working group document.
>
> There is one IPR disclosure against this document.
>
> The authors have stated on the MPLS wg mailing list that they are
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>
> The working group adoption poll ends May 15, 2020.
>
> /Loa
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Hello Authors,

I have the following comments on this draft and would be good if you could =
clarify/respond.

1)The FEC description should match the "context" that is advertised in the =
control plane for Peer Adj SID. E.g. the local/remote Interface IDs are not=
 being included from https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-segme=
nt-routing-epe-19#section-4.2

2) For the Peer Node SID, the control plane definition is https://tools.iet=
f.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-segment-routing-epe-19#section-4.1 and the =
FEC description in this draft is not aligned with the corresponding control=
 plane. The Peer Node SID is meant for the packet to be delivered to a spec=
ific BGP peer and it does not matter over which interface it is received. S=
o why have those interface addresses as mandatory in the FEC. The only thin=
g the control plane indicates is the peering session itself.

3) Same as (2) above, for the Peer Set SID, the interfaces are don't care.

4) The draft just says that the procedures are borrowed from RFC8287 but I =
don't think this is so straightforward or trivial. E.g. https://tools.ietf.=
org/html/rfc8287#section-7.2 has the following:

   The network node that is immediately downstream of the node that
   advertised the Adjacency Segment ID is responsible for generating the
   FEC Stack Change sub-TLV for POP operation for the Adjacency Segment
   ID.

In the case of IGPs, the downstream node does have the label and context fo=
r adjacency SID (which is functionally closest to BGP EPE SIDs). In the BGP=
-EPE SIDs case, this is not always the case. So I believe, it would be bett=
er if the entire operation were described.=20

5) The ping or traceroute done to any of the BGP EPE SID corresponding to a=
n eBGP session may result in the packet being sent to another entity. The s=
ecurity consideration talk about it, but the problem is not addressed by th=
e remote AS dropping the packets. The security issue is that the OAM packet=
 could expose the FECs and information of the local AS to a remote AS. So i=
t is more as an caveat for the operators performing the OAM operation to be=
 mindful of this fact.

In general, some more description that set the stage for the introduction o=
f the new extensions and elaborate more on the operations (some considerati=
ons above on what is mandatory to evaluate and what is optional).

Thanks,
Ketan

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ing-epe-oam

Working Group,

This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oa=
m as a MPLS working group document.

Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working group m=
ailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical motivation for your su=
pport/not support, especially if you think that the document should not be =
adopted as a working group document.

There is one IPR disclosure against this document.

The authors have stated on the MPLS wg mailing list that they are unaware o=
f any IPRs that relates to this document.

The working group adoption poll ends May 15, 2020.

/Loa
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Ketan,

Anything of this that need to addressed before wg adoption?


Authors

I leave the wgap opeb a few extra days to llow you to respond to this.


/Loa

On 12/05/2020 23:32, Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) wrote:
> Hello Authors,
> 
> I have the following comments on this draft and would be good if you could clarify/respond.
> 
> 1)The FEC description should match the "context" that is advertised in the control plane for Peer Adj SID. E.g. the local/remote Interface IDs are not being included from https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-segment-routing-epe-19#section-4.2
> 
> 2) For the Peer Node SID, the control plane definition is https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-segment-routing-epe-19#section-4.1 and the FEC description in this draft is not aligned with the corresponding control plane. The Peer Node SID is meant for the packet to be delivered to a specific BGP peer and it does not matter over which interface it is received. So why have those interface addresses as mandatory in the FEC. The only thing the control plane indicates is the peering session itself.
> 
> 3) Same as (2) above, for the Peer Set SID, the interfaces are don't care.
> 
> 4) The draft just says that the procedures are borrowed from RFC8287 but I don't think this is so straightforward or trivial. E.g. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8287#section-7.2 has the following:
> 
>     The network node that is immediately downstream of the node that
>     advertised the Adjacency Segment ID is responsible for generating the
>     FEC Stack Change sub-TLV for POP operation for the Adjacency Segment
>     ID.
> 
> In the case of IGPs, the downstream node does have the label and context for adjacency SID (which is functionally closest to BGP EPE SIDs). In the BGP-EPE SIDs case, this is not always the case. So I believe, it would be better if the entire operation were described.
> 
> 5) The ping or traceroute done to any of the BGP EPE SID corresponding to an eBGP session may result in the packet being sent to another entity. The security consideration talk about it, but the problem is not addressed by the remote AS dropping the packets. The security issue is that the OAM packet could expose the FECs and information of the local AS to a remote AS. So it is more as an caveat for the operators performing the OAM operation to be mindful of this fact.
> 
> In general, some more description that set the stage for the introduction of the new extensions and elaborate more on the operations (some considerations above on what is mandatory to evaluate and what is optional).
> 
> Thanks,
> Ketan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mpls <mpls-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Loa Andersson
> Sent: 30 April 2020 08:26
> To: mpls@ietf.org
> Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam@ietf.org
> Subject: [mpls] working group adaption poll (wgap) for draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam
> 
> Working Group,
> 
> This is to start a two week poll on adopting draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam as a MPLS working group document.
> 
> Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that the document should not be adopted as a working group document.
> 
> There is one IPR disclosure against this document.
> 
> The authors have stated on the MPLS wg mailing list that they are unaware of any IPRs that relates to this document.
> 
> The working group adoption poll ends May 15, 2020.
> 
> /Loa
> 

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Subject: Re: [mpls] working group adaption poll (wgap) for draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam
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Folks,

I don't tink this came through properly

/Loa

On 13/05/2020 15:12, Loa Andersson wrote:
> Ketan,
> 
> For me there is a bit of procedural issue in this, changing the draft at
> this stage would require a new wgap.
> 
> Would it be sufficient that the working group chairs and the authors 
> acknowledge that the issues you pointed out, including "diverging from
> the control plane protocol semantics for what constitutes the FEC"
> exists, and that all the issues you point out will be addressed as part 
> of the working group process?
> 
> Authors,
> 
> You obviously need to chime in on this.
> 
> /Loa
> 
> On 13/05/2020 12:08, Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) wrote:
>> Hi  Loa,
>>
>> There is no doubt about the need for LSP ping and traceroute 
>> operations to cover BGP EPE SIDs. So the requirement is real and 
>> something that the WG should be taking up.
>>
>> My concerns is that the proposal in the draft is diverging from the 
>> control plane protocol semantics for what constitutes the FEC (or 
>> context) and how it is to be validated. These are some core aspects 
>> that IMHO need to be addressed before adoption while the rest may be 
>> taken up during its life as a WG document. I would suggest to wait for 
>> the authors response.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ketan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>
>> Sent: 13 May 2020 09:22
>> To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) <ketant@cisco.com>; 
>> draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam@ietf.org
>> Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [mpls] working group adaption poll (wgap) for 
>> draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam
>>
>> Ketan,
>>
>> Anything of this that need to addressed before wg adoption?
>>
>>
>> Authors
>>
>> I leave the wgap opeb a few extra days to llow you to respond to this.
>>
>>
>> /Loa
>>
>> On 12/05/2020 23:32, Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) wrote:
>>> Hello Authors,
>>>
>>> I have the following comments on this draft and would be good if you 
>>> could clarify/respond.
>>>
>>> 1)The FEC description should match the "context" that is advertised in
>>> the control plane for Peer Adj SID. E.g. the local/remote Interface
>>> IDs are not being included from
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-segment-routing-epe-1
>>> 9#section-4.2
>>>
>>> 2) For the Peer Node SID, the control plane definition is 
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-segment-routing-epe-19#section-4.1 
>>> and the FEC description in this draft is not aligned with the 
>>> corresponding control plane. The Peer Node SID is meant for the 
>>> packet to be delivered to a specific BGP peer and it does not matter 
>>> over which interface it is received. So why have those interface 
>>> addresses as mandatory in the FEC. The only thing the control plane 
>>> indicates is the peering session itself.
>>>
>>> 3) Same as (2) above, for the Peer Set SID, the interfaces are don't 
>>> care.
>>>
>>> 4) The draft just says that the procedures are borrowed from RFC8287 
>>> but I don't think this is so straightforward or trivial. E.g. 
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8287#section-7.2 has the following:
>>>
>>>      The network node that is immediately downstream of the node that
>>>      advertised the Adjacency Segment ID is responsible for 
>>> generating the
>>>      FEC Stack Change sub-TLV for POP operation for the Adjacency 
>>> Segment
>>>      ID.
>>>
>>> In the case of IGPs, the downstream node does have the label and 
>>> context for adjacency SID (which is functionally closest to BGP EPE 
>>> SIDs). In the BGP-EPE SIDs case, this is not always the case. So I 
>>> believe, it would be better if the entire operation were described.
>>>
>>> 5) The ping or traceroute done to any of the BGP EPE SID 
>>> corresponding to an eBGP session may result in the packet being sent 
>>> to another entity. The security consideration talk about it, but the 
>>> problem is not addressed by the remote AS dropping the packets. The 
>>> security issue is that the OAM packet could expose the FECs and 
>>> information of the local AS to a remote AS. So it is more as an 
>>> caveat for the operators performing the OAM operation to be mindful 
>>> of this fact.
>>>
>>> In general, some more description that set the stage for the 
>>> introduction of the new extensions and elaborate more on the 
>>> operations (some considerations above on what is mandatory to 
>>> evaluate and what is optional).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ketan
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mpls <mpls-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Loa Andersson
>>> Sent: 30 April 2020 08:26
>>> To: mpls@ietf.org
>>> Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam@ietf.org
>>> Subject: [mpls] working group adaption poll (wgap) for
>>> draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam
>>>
>>> Working Group,
>>>
>>> This is to start a two week poll on adopting 
>>> draft-hegde-mpls-spring-epe-oam as a MPLS working group document.
>>>
>>> Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working 
>>> group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical 
>>> motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that 
>>> the document should not be adopted as a working group document.
>>>
>>> There is one IPR disclosure against this document.
>>>
>>> The authors have stated on the MPLS wg mailing list that they are 
>>> unaware of any IPRs that relates to this document.
>>>
>>> The working group adoption poll ends May 15, 2020.
>>>
>>> /Loa
>>>
>>
> 

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 Working Group,

We have had a discussion over the last 7-8 weeks with the authors of
draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sfl on the number of authors listed on the
front page. The IETF rules says that there can be no more than 5 names
listed on the front page, if there are more authors than that the should
be moved to a section called "Contributors".

Considering the feedback (sometimes lack of feedback) We have converged on
the following:

Listed on the front page:

Stewart Bryant
George Swallow
Mach Chen
Giuseppe Fioccola
Greg Mirsky

Listed in the contributors section:

Zhenbin Li
Siva Sivabalan

At this time we also appoint Stewart editor of the document, in order
to have the attention needed through the final review and
publication process.

Could the editor please post a document with these changes.

/Loa
for the MPLS co-chairs

-- 

Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu
Senior MPLS Expert
Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF.

        Title           : RFC6374 Synonymous Flow Labels
        Authors         : Stewart Bryant
                          George Swallow
                          Mach Chen
                          Giuseppe Fioccola
                          Gregory Mirsky
	Filename        : draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sfl-06.txt
	Pages           : 20
	Date            : 2020-05-26

Abstract:
   This document describes a method of making RFC6374 performance
   measurements on flows carried over an MPLS Label Switched path.  This
   allows loss and delay measurements to be made on multi-point to point
   LSPs and allows the measurement of flows within an MPLS construct
   using RFC6374.


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https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sfl-06

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This draft changes the authors as per:

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mpls/hOFWegooaBmbAFTty6m4IsFkBOw/

It makes no changes to the text.

If there are any text changes that I should have made, then I apologise for=
 forgetting them, but if you remind  I will apply them.

Meanwhile I believe that this is now ready for the WCLC and on behalf of th=
e authors I request that the MPLS chairs start the WGLC process.

Many thanks

Stewart



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Working Group, authors,


We are preparing  draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sfl for the working group
last call (wglc) The first step is an IPR poll..

This mail starts this IPR poll.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to  draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sfl?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

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sfl.

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this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
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document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been
received from each author and contributor.

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contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any
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/Loa
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Working Group, authors, (fixed the subject line)


We are preparing  draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sfl for the working group
last call (wglc) The first step is an IPR poll..

This mail starts this IPR poll.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to  draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sfl?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

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sfl.

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contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any
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/Loa
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Any IPR that I know about is already declared and referenced in datatracker=
,

Stewart

> On 29 May 2020, at 07:33, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
>=20
> Working Group, authors,
>=20
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> last call (wglc) The first step is an IPR poll..
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> This mail starts this IPR poll.
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> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
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Hi Loa, et al.,
I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this document.

Regards,
Greg

On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 12:43 AM Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:

> Working Group, authors, (fixed the subject line)
>
>
> We are preparing  draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sfl for the working group
> last call (wglc) The first step is an IPR poll..
>
> This mail starts this IPR poll.
>
> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to  draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sfl?
>
> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
>
> There are currently no IPR disclosures against draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-
> sfl.
>
> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
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> received from each author and contributor.
>
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> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
>
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> /Loa
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Loa, et al.,<div>I am not aware of any IPR that applies=
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div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On=
 Fri, May 29, 2020 at 12:43 AM Loa Andersson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:loa@pi.n=
u">loa@pi.nu</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
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g-left:1ex">Working Group, authors, (fixed the subject line)<br>
<br>
<br>
We are preparing=C2=A0 draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sfl for the working group<br=
>
last call (wglc) The first step is an IPR poll..<br>
<br>
This mail starts this IPR poll.<br>
<br>
Are you aware of any IPR that applies to=C2=A0 draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sfl?=
<br>
<br>
If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules<br>
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).<br>
<br>
There are currently no IPR disclosures against draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-<br>
sfl.<br>
<br>
If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to<br>
this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant<br>
IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS WG mailing list.* The<br>
document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been<br>
received from each author and contributor.<br>
<br>
If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or<br>
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any<br=
>
IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.<br>
<br>
<br>
/Loa<br>
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