From nobody Sun Nov 1 19:56:50 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798033A0CE4; Sun, 1 Nov 2020 19:56:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.21.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mpls@ietf.org Message-ID: <160428940445.8832.56281788489927803@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2020 19:56:44 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang-12.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2020 03:56:45 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF. Title : A YANG Data Model for MPLS Static LSPs Authors : Tarek Saad Rakesh Gandhi Xufeng Liu Vishnu Pavan Beeram Igor Bryskin Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang-12.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2020-11-01 Abstract: This document contains the specification for the MPLS Static Label Switched Paths (LSPs) YANG model. The model allows for the provisioning of static LSP(s) on Label Edge Router(s) LER(s) and Label Switched Router(s) LSR(s) devices along a LSP path without the dependency on any signaling protocol. The MPLS Static LSP model augments the MPLS base YANG model with specific data to configure and manage MPLS Static LSP(s). 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It is cool that both attack the problem of loops due to multiple failures (real or perceived). While the goals are similar, there are clearly differences in the approach because of different assumptions. ALDT attempts to minimize false discards, at the expense of higher packet and processing overhead. The NFFRR approach is far more naive, but also far more efficient. It would be interesting to see how often NFFRR discards packets erroneously in different topologies, as opposed to LDT or ALDT. The trade-offs between efficiency and correctness are harder to determine. Sprinkled in the referenced paper in multiple places are limitations due to OpenFlow. P4 is a better base for prototyping. One question: how is an LD label recognized as such? Thanks too for the reference to the Topology Zoo. The topologies I sampled were pretty small, though. On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 8:01 AM Michael Menth wrote: > Hi Kireeti, all, > > interesting to see this in MPLS. We've done a similar feature (Advanced > Loop Detection and Termination, ALDT) for destination-based forwarding > with LFAs and did some evaluations: > > D. Merling, W. Braun, and M. Menth: Efficient Data Plane Protection for > SDN, in Proceedings of the 4th IEEE Conference on Network Softwarization > (NetSoft), June 2018, Montreal, Canada. > https://atlas.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/~menth/papers/Menth18g.pdf > > We've implemented a prototype on the P4-based Tofino from barefoot, a > paper is to come. > > Regards, > > Michael > > Am 17.09.2020 um 16:27 schrieb Kireeti Kompella: > > Hi All, > > > > We have a prototype implementation of NFFRR in Junos. The packet > > forwarding code was easier to write using a well-known SPL rather than a > > configured or signaled label. This implementation is specifically for > > the EVPN multihoming case -- to prevent loops if the CE is down rather > > than a link to the CE, but the principle is the same for other NFFRR > cases. > > > > Given that, and the fact that the problem is real, the solution > > implemented and the draft reasonably comprehensive and stable, the > > authors request WG adoption. > > > > -- > > Kireeti > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mpls mailing list > > mpls@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > > > -- > Prof. Dr. habil. Michael Menth > University of Tuebingen > Faculty of Science > Department of Computer Science > Chair of Communication Networks > Sand 13, 72076 Tuebingen, Germany > phone: (+49)-7071/29-70505 > fax: (+49)-7071/29-5220 > mailto:menth@uni-tuebingen.de > http://kn.inf.uni-tuebingen.de > -- Kireeti --0000000000008bed4305b32145b1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Michael,

Thanks for the link to the = paper.=C2=A0 It is cool that=C2=A0both attack the=C2=A0problem of loops due= to multiple failures (real or perceived).

While t= he goals are similar, there are clearly differences=C2=A0in the approach be= cause of different assumptions.=C2=A0 ALDT attempts to minimize false disca= rds, at the expense of higher packet and processing overhead.=C2=A0 The NFF= RR=C2=A0approach is far more naive, but also far more efficient.=C2=A0 It w= ould be interesting to see how often NFFRR=C2=A0discards packets erroneousl= y in different topologies, as opposed to LDT or ALDT.=C2=A0 The trade-offs = between efficiency and correctness are harder to determine.

<= /div>
Sprinkled in the referenced=C2=A0paper in multiple places are lim= itations=C2=A0due to OpenFlow.=C2=A0 P4 is a better base for prototyping.

One question: how is an LD label recognized as such= ?

Thanks too for the reference to the Topology Zoo= .=C2=A0 The topologies I sampled were pretty small, though.

<= /div>

On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 8:01 AM Michael Menth <menth@uni-tuebingen.de> wrote:
Hi Kireeti, all,

interesting to see this in MPLS. We've done a similar feature (Advanced=
Loop Detection and Termination, ALDT) for destination-based forwarding
with LFAs and did some evaluations:

D. Merling, W. Braun, and M. Menth: Efficient Data Plane Protection for
SDN, in Proceedings of the 4th IEEE Conference on Network Softwarization (NetSoft), June 2018, Montreal, Canada.
https://atlas.informatik.uni-tue= bingen.de/~menth/papers/Menth18g.pdf

We've implemented a prototype on the P4-based Tofino from barefoot, a paper is to come.

Regards,

Michael

Am 17.09.2020 um 16:27 schrieb Kireeti Kompella:
> Hi All,
>
> We have a prototype implementation of NFFRR=C2=A0in Junos.=C2=A0 The p= acket
> forwarding code was easier to write using a well-known SPL rather than= a
> configured or signaled label.=C2=A0 This implementation is specificall= y for
> the EVPN multihoming case -- to prevent loops if the CE is down rather=
> than a link to the CE, but the principle is the same for other NFFRR c= ases.
>
> Given that, and the fact that the problem is real, the solution
> implemented and the draft reasonably comprehensive and stable, the
> authors request WG adoption.
>
> --
> Kireeti
>
> _______________________________________________
> mpls mailing list
> mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls
>

--
Prof. Dr. habil. Michael Menth
University of Tuebingen
Faculty of Science
Department of Computer Science
Chair of Communication Networks
Sand 13, 72076 Tuebingen, Germany
phone: (+49)-7071/29-70505
fax: (+49)-7071/29-5220
mailto:menth@un= i-tuebingen.de
http://kn.inf.uni-tuebingen.de


--
Kireeti
--0000000000008bed4305b32145b1-- From nobody Mon Nov 2 07:37:47 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DF93A0D3E; Mon, 2 Nov 2020 07:37:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.21.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mpls@ietf.org Message-ID: <160433145758.20138.14204760317891406129@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2020 07:37:37 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-mirsky-mpls-p2mp-bfd-12.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2020 15:37:38 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF. Title : BFD for Multipoint Networks over Point-to-Multi-Point MPLS LSP Authors : Greg Mirsky Gyan Mishra Donald Eastlake, 3rd Filename : draft-mirsky-mpls-p2mp-bfd-12.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2020-11-02 Abstract: This document describes procedures for using Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) for multipoint networks to detect data plane failures in Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) point-to-multipoint (p2mp) Label Switched Paths (LSPs) using active tails with unsolicited notifications mode. It also describes the applicability of LSP Ping, as in-band, and the control plane, as out-band, solutions to bootstrap a BFD session in this environment. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Nov 3 21:19:01 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6AA3A0045; Tue, 3 Nov 2020 21:19:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.144 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.144 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.247, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6NnSyUIzc-Ui; Tue, 3 Nov 2020 21:18:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 226203A003F; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: CY4PR05MB3576.namprd05.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: ff70e347-2431-4c2b-7d5a-08d884819a14 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 09 Nov 2020 07:32:24.2807 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: HIQV8m3uk9dSpBqOmPtJxtSFEJ4wt1TM9qpIPuaBJ/n9ypohU1bW5BNVXZHRJx+WHfw7U2zgh/P/IyInbz96kg== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CY1PR05MB2684 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.312, 18.0.737 definitions=2020-11-09_02:2020-11-05, 2020-11-09 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_spam_notspam policy=outbound_spam score=0 priorityscore=1501 phishscore=0 mlxlogscore=845 clxscore=1011 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 impostorscore=0 bulkscore=0 suspectscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 adultscore=0 mlxscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2011090045 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] Working Group Last Call : draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-04 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2020 07:32:30 -0000 I have read the -05 version of the document and find it useful and clear on= IANA code point Registry usage. I have a question on the registry update. The TLVs and sub-TLV registry "vendor private" code points has been update = to " FCFS" while the Message type/return code etc registry types have been left as "private use"= . Any specific reason for not changing them to "FCFS" ? Rgds Shraddha Juniper Business Use Only -----Original Message----- From: mpls On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 10:02 PM To: 'mpls' Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] Working Group Last Call : draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registri= es-update-04 [External Email. Be cautious of content] Hi MPLS WG, As previously noted, I'm the shepherd for this document and I'm running the= working group last call as agreed by the chairs. This email starts a two-week last call on draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-04 https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpl= s-lsp-ping-registries-update/__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!VW78XGy-uR3ChuXVvRR0JKhySp_wD= _Uq4kMjc1Bpc8jk-JZRx6oojaG4eBsY_Edo$ Please send your opinions to the mailing list before October 9th. While yes/no opinions are not without value, it is far more helpful if you = can indicate whether you have read the latest version of the draft, and wha= t the reasons are for your opinions. Of course, all of your review comments will be helpful in improving the doc= ument. 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The reason I did not change to FCFS i= s that there are only four =E2=80=9Cprivate use=E2=80=9D code points. If you= make them FCFS there is a risk that they will be used up very quickly. IANA= documents the allocation of FCFS code points, so as soon as the fourth code= is allocated, they are gone.=20 This is true for Message Types, Reply Modes and Return Codes.=20 In all fairness I did not think keeping them =E2=80=9Cprivate use=E2=80=9D w= as ideal, but it was the least harmful alternative I could find.=20 T /Loa=20 Sent from my iPhone > On 9 Nov 2020, at 15:32, Shraddha Hegde wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFI have read the -05 version of the document and find it useful an= d clear on IANA code point > Registry usage. I have a question on the registry update. > The TLVs and sub-TLV registry "vendor private" code points has been update= to " FCFS" while the > Message type/return code etc registry types have been left as "private use= ". > Any specific reason for not changing them to "FCFS" ? >=20 > Rgds > Shraddha >=20 >=20 > Juniper Business Use Only >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 10:02 PM > To: 'mpls' > Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update@ietf.org > Subject: [mpls] Working Group Last Call : draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registr= ies-update-04 >=20 > [External Email. 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I'll post -05 on Monday when the doors re-open just to tidy up those = nits. The point of returning the document to the WG was, I think, to enable a further WG last call after the comments from IETF last call had been addressed (in -04) because the change was quite extensive and included a modification to how label 7 is handled. It looks like the status of the document was set to "In WG last call" but no last call was started. Nic, let me know if the authors should do anything different. Best, Adrian -----Original Message----- From: N.Leymann@telekom.de =20 Sent: 19 October 2020 12:05 To: stewart.bryant@gmail.com; gregimirsky@gmail.com Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org Subject: AW: [mpls] Intended status of draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology Hi, Yep, in deed I forgot to change it - should be fixed by now. regards Nic -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: mpls Im Auftrag von Stewart Bryant Gesendet: Freitag, 16. Oktober 2020 19:33 An: Greg Mirsky Cc: draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology@ietf.org; mpls Betreff: Re: [mpls] Intended status of draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology Greg It updates an ST RFC so it has to be ST. I think the draft is right (it changed) but the shepherd forgot to = update the tracker. - Stewart > On 16 Oct 2020, at 15:59, Greg Mirsky wrote: >=20 > Dear Authors, > hope you can clarify the intended status of the draft. I've noticed = that the datatracker reflects it as Informational while the document itself states that is on the Standards track. 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BR=20 Stewart= --Apple-Mail=_B0A74AB5-B5C4-45C3-905F-37798A7D227F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Please can I draw the attention of the authors to https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4623

This standards track RFC  specifies how you can sent a fragmented Ethernet frame over a PW in an MPLS network and would seem applicable to the problem that you address in your draft.

BR 

Stewart
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Indeed, this is an already-solved problem.

<= div>Cheers,
Andy


On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 9:57= AM Stewart Bryant <stewart.= bryant@gmail.com> wrote:
Please can I draw= the attention of the authors to=C2=A0https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4623
This standards track RFC =C2=A0specifies how you can sent a fr= agmented Ethernet frame over a PW in an MPLS network and would seem applica= ble to the problem that you address in your draft.

B= R=C2=A0

Stewart
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X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 06:32:57 -0000 Working Group, The NomCom needs our feedback, please take some time to provide feedback! /Loa for the wg chairs -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: NomCom needs your feedback! Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 16:10:17 -0800 From: NomCom Chair 2020 To: IETF Announcement List CC: ietf@ietf.org Hi IETF, NomCom is considering nominees for AD positions, IETF Chair, IAB, LLC Board, and IETF Trust. We need more input from the community both on specific nominees and on over-arching topics regarding what the community wants from these specific groups and wants from its leadership in general. We need *your* input. ** Deadline for community feedback is Friday November 20. ** We've paid attention to discussions on the ietf list. Issues raised there have been brought up in interviews. We've also asked questions of nominees based on feedback received, and based on the "Topics" that people said were important. We're listening to you. But most of the input to date has come from a few consistently vocal people. We need to hear from more of you. I scheduled our office hours during the 2 weeks before next week's IETF, because IETF week is so busy. We have one more left (18:00-19:00 UTC November 11). No-one but NomCom members showed up for our first 3. ☹ If there is demand for more office hours, I'll schedule them; but this really doesn't seem to be the preferred format for input. Most input is coming in as either - email to nomcom20@ietf.org - feedback on https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2020/feedback/ On the feedback page, the specific nominees are all listed at the top. General Topics are at the bottom. We pay attention to all the comments we get through these channels. I'll also try to hang out in Gather.Town during IETF breaks next week. I'm not going to have a specific NomCom area in Gather.Town, because it was really lonely hanging out there during IETF 108. But please feel free to hunt me down and bend my ear -- on NomCom issues or just to chat. I miss seeing all of y'all! Barbara Barbara Stark NomCom 2020 Chair _______________________________________________ IETF-Announce mailing list IETF-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert loa.pi.nu@gmail.com Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Wed Nov 11 04:50:54 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141223A1118; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 04:50:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=btconnect.onmicrosoft.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O_UKi8fxkQZd; 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This version addresses=0A= (almost) all WGLC comments and should be ready to send to the IESG for=0A= approval and publication.=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Loa=0A= =0A= In 3.1.1, you reference Private Use TLVs. AFAICT these do not exist=0A= =0A= You still have one 37140=0A= =0A= I see a contradiction between 3.1.1 and the subsequent tables. 3.1.1 seems= clear that a RC 2 will be sent in response to TLVs in the range 31470-3147= 3 but the tables fail to include that information for this range - they do = for the other three ranges under 32768=0A= =0A= Michelle was probably too polite to point out the incorrect spelling of her= name!=0A= =0A= Tom Petch=0A= =0A= There is one comment on naming IANA registries that is not addressed, I=0A= did not think this draft was the right place to address this issue.=0A= =0A= I'm planning to post a new draft on this on Monday the latest.=0A= =0A= /Loa=0A= =0A= -------- Forwarded Message --------=0A= Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-05.txt=0A= Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 03:45:56 -0700=0A= From: internet-drafts@ietf.org=0A= Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org, mpls@ietf.org=0A= To: i-d-announce@ietf.org=0A= CC: mpls@ietf.org=0A= =0A= =0A= A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts=0A= directories.=0A= This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the=0A= IETF.=0A= =0A= Title : Updating the IANA MPLS LSP Ping Parameters=0A= Authors : Loa Andersson=0A= Mach Chen=0A= Carlos Pignataro=0A= Tarek Saad=0A= Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-05.txt= =0A= Pages : 33=0A= Date : 2020-10-23=0A= =0A= Abstract:=0A= This document updates RFC 8029 and RFC 8611 that both define IANA=0A= registries for MPLS LSP Ping. 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Malis" , "draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions@ietf.org" , mpls , "pals@ietf.org" To: "Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang" References: <4CF6B760-9792-45BD-AC35-31C5C70E2646@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] [Pals] Mail regarding draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:59:38 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_4788B3FB-38CA-4B15-B8B8-6A9C4122E262 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 First some comments on the draft itself. SB> The draft needs to discuss RFC4623 and explain when this draft would = be used in place of RFC4623 Some functionalities (e.g. fragmentation/reassembly and Encapsulating Security Payload) provided by IPv6 can be viewed as independent of IPv6 or even IP entirely. =20 SB> Specifically IPv6 does not support network fragmentation because it = provides PMTUD and devolves the problem to host. This document proposes to provide those functionalities at different layers (e.g., MPLS, BIER or even Ethernet) independent of IP. SB> I think we need to understand why after all these years this is now = needed. SB> Although we have this in PW, I am not sure it is widely used. 1. Introduction Consider an operator providing Ethernet services such as pseudowires, SB> It is already provided for PWs. Now you can build a case for why you = need something better, but you must build the case. VPLS or EVPN. The Ethernet frames that a Provider Edge (PE) device receives from a Customer Edge (CE) device may have a larger size than the PE-PE path MTU (pMTU) in the provider network. =20 SB> I think you need to build a more complete case that the following = because correctly implemented IPv6 will not send a frame that is too = large because PMTUD and host fragmentation or transport fragmantation = will prevent that. IPv4 supports fragmentation. SB> So that begs the question of what these packets are? This could be because 1. the provider network is built upon virtual connections (e.g. pseudowires) provided by another infrastructure provider, or 2. the customer network uses jumbo frames while the provider network does not, or 3. the provider-side overhead for transporting customers packets across the network pushes past the pMTU. In any case, the provider simply cannot require its customers to change their MTU. SB> Don=E2=80=99t they change it automatically for most protocols? To get those large frames across the provider network, currently the only workaround is to encapsulate the frames in IP (with or without GRE) and then fragment the IP packets. =20 SB> Again I think we need a bigger discussion of what those packets are. Even if MPLS is used for service delimiting, IP is used for transporation (MPLS over IP/GRE). This may not be desirable in certain deployment scenarios, where MPLS is the preferred transport or IP encapsulation overhead is deemed excessive. SB> Again, I think we need more detail to justify this. Zhang, et al. Expires May 5, 2021 [Page 2] =0C Internet-Draft Generic Transport Functions November 2020 IPv6 fragmentation and reassembly are based on the IPv6 Fragmentation header below [RFC8200]: +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Next Header | Reserved | Fragment Offset |Res|M| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Identification | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Figure 1: IPv6 Fragmentation Header This document proposes reusing this header in non-IP contexts, since the fragmentation/reassembly function is actually independent of IPv6 except the following aspects: o The fragment header is identified as such by the "previous" header. o The "Next Header" value is from the "Internet Protocol Numbers" registry. o The "Identification" value is unique in the (source, destination) context provided by the IPv6 header SB> Which of course MPLS does not provide. The "Identification" field, in conjunction with the IPv6 source and destination identifies fragments of the original packet, for the purpose of reassembly. Therefore, the fragmentation/reassembly function can be applied at other layers as long as a) the fragment header is identified as such; and b) the context for packet identification is provided. Examples of such layers include MPLS, BIER, and Ethernet (if IEEE determines it is so desired). SB> Presumable we will liaise this to IEEE? For the layers where the IETF is concerned, the "Next Header" value will still be from the "Internet Protocol Numbers" registry when the function is applied at non-IP layers. SB> IPv6 has next headers because Frag is an option and that is the way = IPv6 works. It is unclear why a transport network fragmantation method = as described here would need it. For the same consideration, the IP Encapsulating Security Payload (ESP) [RFC4303] could also be applied at other layers if ESP is desired there. For example, if for whatever reason the Ethernet service provider wants to provide ESP between its PEs, it could do so without requiring IP encapsulation if ESP is applied at non-IP layers. SB> I think we should get to the mechanics before discussing the = options. The possibility of applying some other IP functions (e.g. Authentication Header [RFC4302]) is for further study. Zhang, et al. Expires May 5, 2021 [Page 3] =0C Internet-Draft Generic Transport Functions November 2020 2. Specifications 2.1. Generic Fragmentation Header For generic fragmentation/reassembly functionality independent of IP, the following Generic Fragmentation Header (GFH) is defined: +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Next Header | Header Length | Fragment Offset |R|S|M| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Identification | | (variable) | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Figure 2: Generic Fragmentation Header The "Next Header", "Fragment Offset" and "M" flag bit fields are as in the IPv6 Fragmentation Header. SB> I am really not sure why a transport network frag needs to worry = about NH. It should not care about what it is carrying. Its job is to = simply glue the packet back together and let something that understands = the glued together packet interpret it. SB> IN any case NH could, at least in theory, alias IP and cause ECMP = problems unless this sits behind a CW, which I don=E2=80=99t think we = have discussed yet. Header Length: the number of octets of the entire header. R: The "R" flag bit is reserved. It MUST be 0 on transmitting and ignored on receiving. Identification: at least 4-octet long. SB> Four seems dangerously short given that IPv4 uses Eight. Also we = need some discussion about how the ID is generated such that a = misdelivered packet cannot get fragmented. SB> BTW since later in your discussion you talk about multi-path = delivery, you need to discuss reassembly timeout. That is not a problem = with a PW since it is single path. S: If the "S" flag bit is clear, the context for the Identification field is provided by the outer header, and only the source- identifying information in the outer header is used. If the "S" flag bit is set, the variable Identification field encodes both source-identifying information (e.g. the IP address of the node adding the GFH) and an identification number unique within that source. SB> We need to be clearer that the ID must be unique per flow for the = lifetime of any packet from that flow in the network, including = =E2=80=9Cstuck=E2=80=9D packets. The outer header MUST identify that a Generic Fragmentation Header follows and MAY carry source-identifying information. If the outer header is BIER, a TBD value for the "proto" field in the BIER header identifies that a GFH follows. If the "S" flag bit is clear, the "BFIR-id" field in the BIER header provides the context for the "Identification" field. SB> It is not yet clear why we need the protocol type at the MPLS layer. If the outer header is MPLS, the "S" flag bit MAY be clear if the the label preceeding the GFH identifies the sending BFR in addition to indicating that a GFH follows (see Section 2.2). > On 10 Nov 2020, at 23:13, Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang = wrote: >=20 > Hi Andy, Stewart, > =20 > If I understand it correctly, RFC4623 is specifically for PWs (p2p) = and cannot be used for EVPN/VPLS. It was certainly intended for use in P2P PWs, I am not sure anyone has = thought about its application to EVPN/VPLS. > =20 > The reason is that the sequence number in the control word is specific = to the PW and the fragmentation/reassembly is performed in the context = of the PW. That is correct. > In case of EVPN/VPLS, an egress PE could receive fragments from = different ingress PEs and reassembly must be done in the right context.=20= We need to be quite clear here, you mean that it could be concurrently = reassembling fragments from different ingress PEs to the same egress PE = on the same EVPN label. Yes, that is a problem that needs to be = addressed and there are a number of ways that it could be addressed. We = need t think about whether the FO method is better than the BE method.=20= Now the questions is where we start from scratch or provide that = identity to RFC4623, and how we provide that identity. One method is = SFL, another is to provide identity of the type that you describe as an = extended CW. Whatever happens you are going to need a CW to desire that = you defeat ECMP inspection of the payload in legacy routers. > =20 > In addition, RFC 7432 (EVPN) specifically calls out that control word = is either not used or only with all-0: > =20 > - If a network uses deep packet inspection for its ECMP, then the > "Preferred PW MPLS Control Word" [RFC4385 = ] SHOULD be used with the > value 0 (e.g., a 4-octet field with a value of zero) when sending > EVPN-encapsulated packets over an MP2P LSP. So it has a CW. What method does it use to do OAM, presumable GAL at BOS? > =20 > - If a network uses entropy labels [RFC6790 = ], then the control word > SHOULD NOT be used when sending EVPN-encapsulated packets over an > MP2P LSP. That will only work if you have no legacy nodes on the path. A legacy = node is entitled to ignore the EL and do DPI ECMP. > =20 > - When sending EVPN-encapsulated packets over a P2MP LSP or P2P = LSP, > then the control word SHOULD NOT be used. Given the f/b we got in PALS from the operator community about ECMP on = PWs without CW, I wonder what is happening on these networks? > =20 > This draft-zzhang allows the context to be determined from the = extended =E2=80=9Cidentification=E2=80=9D field or from the outer = header. So you have added Identification, and I agree that with unsolicited = packets as opposed to the P2P PW case it is needed. I am not sure about the rest of the design, and in particular I am not = sure how you deal with reassembly lockup. That was a problem that could = occur in the case of PWs because the reassembly buffer could be = considered part of the PW which was something we provisioned. If we had = a corruption in the network, then it would all work itself out. With an = arbitrary fan in and no preprovisioning, I am not sure what the error = behaviour will be. This is something that you certainly need to discuss = in the text. > In addition, it is =E2=80=9Cgeneric=E2=80=9D such that it can be used = for any situations where fragmentation is needed at any layer for any = solution. I am not convinced that the situations are real. I think there needs to = be some more context on the deployments. Should be just fine. BTW I note that this is a TSVWG draft. I am not sure it belongs there. I = would have though that it belonged in the PALS/MPLS WGs or at least = somewhere in RTG which is where EVPN was developed. Hopefully the chairs have allowed enough time to discuss next Friday. Best regards Stewart > =20 > Thanks. > =20 > Jeffrey > =20 > From: Andrew G. Malis >=20= > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 10:33 AM > To: Stewart Bryant > > Cc: draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions@ietf.org = ; mpls = >; pals@ietf.org = > Subject: Re: [Pals] Mail regarding = draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions > =20 > [External Email. Be cautious of content] > =20 > Indeed, this is an already-solved problem.=20 > =20 > Cheers, > Andy > =20 > =20 > On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 9:57 AM Stewart Bryant = > wrote: > Please can I draw the attention of the authors to = https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4623 = > =20 > This standards track RFC specifies how you can sent a fragmented = Ethernet frame over a PW in an MPLS network and would seem applicable to = the problem that you address in your draft. > =20 > BR=20 > =20 > Stewart > _______________________________________________ > Pals mailing list > Pals@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals = > Juniper Business Use Only >=20 --Apple-Mail=_4788B3FB-38CA-4B15-B8B8-6A9C4122E262 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 

First some comments on the draft itself.

SB> The draft needs to discuss RFC4623 and =
explain when this draft would be used in place of RFC4623

   Some functionalities (e.g. fragmentation/reassembly and Encapsulating
   Security Payload) provided by IPv6 can be viewed as independent of
   IPv6 or even IP entirely.  
SB> Specifically IPv6 =
does not support network fragmentation because it provides PMTUD and =
devolves the problem to host.
This document proposes to provide =
those
   functionalities at different layers (e.g., MPLS, BIER or even
   Ethernet) independent of IP.

SB> I think we need to understand why after all =
these years this is now needed.
SB> Although we have =
this in PW, I am not sure it is widely used.
1.  Introduction

   Consider an operator providing Ethernet =
services such as pseudowires,

SB> It is already provided for PWs. Now you can build a =
case for why you need something better, but you must build the =
case.
   VPLS or EVPN.  The Ethernet frames that a Provider Edge (PE) device
   receives from a Customer Edge (CE) device may have a larger size than
   the PE-PE path MTU (pMTU) in the provider network.  
SB> =
I think you need to build a more complete case that the following =
because correctly implemented IPv6 will not send a frame that is too =
large because PMTUD and host fragmentation or transport fragmantation =
will prevent that.  IPv4 supports fragmentation.
SB> =
So that begs the question of what these packets are?

   This could be
   because

   1.  the provider network is built upon virtual connections (e.g.
       pseudowires) provided by another infrastructure provider, or

   2.  the customer network uses jumbo frames while the provider network
       does not, or

   3.  the provider-side overhead for transporting customers packets
       across the network pushes past the pMTU.

   In any case, the provider simply cannot require its customers to
   change their MTU.
SB> Don=E2=80=99t they change it =
automatically for most protocols?

   To get those large frames across the provider network, currently the
   only workaround is to encapsulate the frames in IP (with or without
   GRE) and then fragment the IP packets.  
SB> =
Again I think we need a bigger discussion of what those packets =
are.

   Even if MPLS is used for
   service delimiting, IP is used for transporation (MPLS over IP/GRE).
   This may not be desirable in certain deployment scenarios, where MPLS
   is the preferred transport or IP encapsulation overhead is deemed
   excessive.

SB> Again, I think we need more detail to justify this.


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   IPv6 fragmentation and reassembly are based on the IPv6 Fragmentation
   header below [RFC8200]:

   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |  Next Header  |   Reserved    |      Fragment Offset    |Res|M|
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |                         Identification                        |
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

                    Figure 1: IPv6 Fragmentation Header

   This document proposes reusing this header in non-IP contexts, since
   the fragmentation/reassembly function is actually independent of IPv6
   except the following aspects:

   o  The fragment header is identified as such by the "previous"
      header.

   o  The "Next Header" value is from the "Internet Protocol Numbers"
      registry.

   o  The "Identification" value is unique in the (source, destination)
      context provided by the IPv6 header
SB> Which of course =
MPLS does not provide.

   The "Identification" field, in conjunction with the IPv6 source and
   destination identifies fragments of the original packet, for the
   purpose of reassembly.

   Therefore, the fragmentation/reassembly function can be applied at
   other layers as long as a) the fragment header is identified as such;
   and b) the context for packet identification is provided.  Examples
   of such layers include MPLS, BIER, and Ethernet (if IEEE determines
   it is so desired).
SB> Presumable we will liaise this =
to IEEE?
   For the layers where the IETF is concerned, the "Next Header" value
   will still be from the "Internet Protocol Numbers" registry when the
   function is applied at non-IP layers.
SB> IPv6 has next =
headers because Frag is an option and that is the way IPv6 works. It is =
unclear why a transport network fragmantation method as described here =
would need it.
   For the same consideration, the IP Encapsulating Security Payload
   (ESP) [RFC4303] could also be applied at other layers if ESP is
   desired there.  For example, if for whatever reason the Ethernet
   service provider wants to provide ESP between its PEs, it could do so
   without requiring IP encapsulation if ESP is applied at non-IP
   layers.
SB> I think we should get to the mechanics =
before discussing the options.

   The possibility of applying some other IP functions (e.g.
   Authentication Header [RFC4302]) is for further study.




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2.  Specifications

2.1.  Generic Fragmentation Header

   For generic fragmentation/reassembly functionality independent of IP,
   the following Generic Fragmentation Header (GFH) is defined:

   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |  Next Header  | Header Length |      Fragment Offset    |R|S|M|
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |                         Identification                        |
   |                           (variable)                          |
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

                  Figure 2: Generic Fragmentation Header

   The "Next Header", "Fragment Offset" and "M" flag bit fields are as
   in the IPv6 Fragmentation Header.
SB> I am really not =
sure why a transport network frag needs to worry about NH. It should not =
care about what it is carrying. Its job is to simply glue the packet =
back together and let something that understands the glued together =
packet interpret it.
SB> IN any case NH could, at least =
in theory, alias IP and cause ECMP problems unless this sits behind a =
CW, which I don=E2=80=99t think we have discussed yet.
   Header Length:  the number of octets of the entire header.

   R: The "R" flag bit is reserved.  It MUST be 0 on transmitting and
      ignored on receiving.

   Identification:  at least 4-octet long.
SB> Four seems =
dangerously short given that IPv4 uses Eight. Also we need some =
discussion about how the ID is generated such that a misdelivered packet =
cannot get fragmented.
SB> BTW since later in your =
discussion you talk about multi-path delivery, you need to discuss =
reassembly timeout. That is not a problem with a PW since it is single =
path.
   S: If the "S" flag bit is clear, the context for the Identification
      field is provided by the outer header, and only the source-
      identifying information in the outer header is used.  If the "S"
      flag bit is set, the variable Identification field encodes both
      source-identifying information (e.g. the IP address of the node
      adding the GFH) and an identification number unique within that
      source.
SB> We need to be clearer that the ID must be =
unique per flow for the lifetime of any packet from that flow in the =
network, including =E2=80=9Cstuck=E2=80=9D packets.

   The outer header MUST identify that a Generic Fragmentation Header
   follows and MAY carry source-identifying information.

   If the outer header is BIER, a TBD value for the "proto" field in the
   BIER header identifies that a GFH follows.  If the "S" flag bit is
   clear, the "BFIR-id" field in the BIER header provides the context
   for the "Identification" field.
SB> It is not yet =
clear why we need the protocol type at the MPLS layer.

   If the outer header is MPLS, the "S" flag bit MAY be clear if the the
   label preceeding the GFH identifies the sending BFR in addition to
   indicating that a GFH follows (see Section 2.2).

On 10 Nov 2020, at 23:13, Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang <zzhang@juniper.net> = wrote:

Hi Andy, Stewart,
 
If I understand it = correctly, RFC4623 is specifically for PWs (p2p) and cannot be used for = EVPN/VPLS.

It= was certainly intended for use in P2P PWs, I am not sure anyone has = thought about its application to EVPN/VPLS.


 
The reason is that the = sequence number in the control word is specific to the PW and the = fragmentation/reassembly is performed in the context of the PW. =

That is = correct.

In case of EVPN/VPLS, an egress PE could receive = fragments from different ingress PEs and reassembly must be done in the = right context. 

We need to be quite clear here, you = mean that it could be concurrently reassembling fragments from different = ingress PEs to the same egress PE on the same EVPN label. Yes, that is a = problem that needs to be addressed and there are a number of ways that = it could be addressed. We need t think about whether the FO method is = better than the BE method. 

Now = the questions is where we start from scratch or provide that identity to = RFC4623, and how we provide that identity. One method is SFL, another is = to provide identity of the type that you describe as an extended CW. = Whatever happens you are going to need a CW to desire that you defeat = ECMP inspection of the payload in legacy routers.

 
In addition, RFC 7432 = (EVPN) specifically calls out that control word is either not used or = only with all-0:
 
   - = If a network uses deep packet inspection for its ECMP, then the
     "Preferred PW MPLS Control Word" [RFC4385] SHOULD be used with the
     value 0 (e.g., a 4-octet field with = a value of zero) when sending
     = EVPN-encapsulated packets over an MP2P = LSP.

So it has a CW.

What method does it use to do OAM, presumable GAL = at BOS?

 
   - If a network uses entropy labels [RFC6790], then the control = word
     SHOULD NOT be used when sending = EVPN-encapsulated packets over an
     MP2P = LSP.

That will only work if you have no legacy nodes on = the path. A legacy node is entitled to ignore the EL and do DPI = ECMP.

 
   - When sending EVPN-encapsulated packets over a = P2MP LSP or P2P LSP,
     then the = control word SHOULD NOT be = used.

Given the f/b we got in PALS from the operator = community about ECMP on PWs without CW, I wonder what is happening on = these networks?

 
This draft-zzhang allows = the context to be determined from the extended =E2=80=9Cidentification=E2=80= =9D field or from the outer header. =

So you = have added Identification, and I agree that with unsolicited packets as = opposed to the P2P PW case it is needed.

I am not sure about the rest of the design, and in = particular I am not sure how you deal with reassembly lockup. That was a = problem that could occur in the case of PWs because the reassembly = buffer could be considered part of the PW which was something we = provisioned. If we had a corruption in the network, then it would all = work itself out. With an arbitrary fan in and no preprovisioning, I am = not sure what the error behaviour will be. This is something that you = certainly need to discuss in the text.

In addition, it is =E2=80=9Cgeneric=E2=80=9D = such that it can be used for any situations where fragmentation is = needed at any layer for any = solution.

I = am not convinced that the situations are real. I think there needs to be = some more context on the deployments. Should be just fine.

BTW I note that this is a TSVWG draft. I am not = sure it belongs there. I would have though that it belonged in the = PALS/MPLS WGs or at least somewhere in RTG which is where EVPN was = developed.

Hopefully the chairs have = allowed enough time to discuss next Friday.

Best regards

Stewart

 
Thanks.
 
Jeffrey
 
From: Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 = 10:33 AM
To: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
Cc: draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions@ietf.org; = mpls <mpls@ietf.org>; pals@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Pals] Mail regarding = draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions
 
[External Email. Be = cautious of content]
 
Indeed, this is an = already-solved problem. 
 
Cheers,
Andy
 
 
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 9:57 AM Stewart Bryant = <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> = wrote:
Please= can I draw the attention of the authors to https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4623
 
This = standards track RFC  specifies how you can sent a fragmented = Ethernet frame over a PW in an MPLS network and would seem applicable to = the problem that you address in your draft.
 
BR 
 
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Malis" , "draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions@ietf.org" , mpls , "pals@ietf.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <29064501-9136-451D-A7D0-9257D0FBDB26@gmail.com> References: <4CF6B760-9792-45BD-AC35-31C5C70E2646@gmail.com> To: "Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] [Pals] Mail regarding draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 13:11:20 -0000 Oh there is a deeper problem Unless you guarantee that you have defeated ECMP, which I don=E2=80=99t = think the design does since first nibble is not 0000, I think the = different fragments can get ECMPed differently. If that happens then = (unlike the PW case) you cannot be sure that the fragments will arrive = on the same LC, and that means that you need to support cross line card = reassembly. If that happens your performance falls through the floor. Of course you could argue that it will mostly work, just like people = argued that not having the CW would work well enough in PW, and it did = mostly work, until it didn=E2=80=99t and we had a disorderly :) queue of = operators at the door of PALS WG. Now what happens in the VPN cases in the existing design is that just = like PW you will be seeing occasional Ethernet reordering, which mostly = does not matter because what is being carried is IP, but as we found out = in PALS it sometimes does matter an it is very difficult for the = operators to diagnose, and then it does matter. However what you have is = potentially much worse because you will accumulate fragments on = different line cards, or have a very complex implementation problem to = reassemble at speed. - Stewart From nobody Wed Nov 11 05:17:43 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC823A10D2; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 05:17:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6fHiAkk9OiMi; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 05:17:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qv1-xf29.google.com (mail-qv1-xf29.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F27C03A0CEE; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 05:17:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qv1-xf29.google.com with SMTP id z17so812214qvy.11; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 05:17:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=vpk45N+9N2RiARk4S5aaGCCFH1YqNmOVqPnQQedR2wQ=; b=H/2fHiBlAaWDPhSNGwZ9NPtVtfS61iRzsl2o6942zD9dk6sQME9A4VBo0dnph3LRdq gIi1cejCGbft7sfm1O6vHlvZ4CjbtNt605mArn3oifSFfBRKU4+8B2Z8nTLIgL7lqlic 6Y7SnNMY35bWqokIkbNUqVSJp4+FWzWODLHWmV+F+t3PT0sAIVxKr2G0vOZH+1hSTenZ SCFINFONFZztLavjvWu30ZUJ3qTQ1fVRksE/yVwgigFsEgHVRNc9kSxStSQZemsnBs7F Xxg8k5yylORPRvwAIPuNB9Fg5GFszArAQ4LURwwRFnWFv5YzZn2rEL5r1aTegf1NWGgu 4itQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=vpk45N+9N2RiARk4S5aaGCCFH1YqNmOVqPnQQedR2wQ=; b=KkcCTWT2e7aHw0p5y9kyDTWvOCpbf3fsi/+3no7WkJuZEEgagh9BrxvsEPW8dr9pf5 QHLPlS6vNK/vInPZ+yagbKrBzj6k2bRmoe0uPeZ6Z858QCaNSgA8VM4dYwNXhYALYwqH D2mG8zhotsNIwSoaTESrcIa3Bxze9m3CPtClIMlD5X7gimoJt74bmH5NQB5H9zx2R8UF KGA8I/TxEKN9dkn5c8lCegTo4Pbo/MKigDlZAJtqyUIpCUF2/xxxHwRODDa9onvcliI8 5nfAa3wlyw/gJ8elC9gk1othJ8I/xxR2ZTBm2lXOCXPEiu2QqW0v9aI6USj68W+Ie+hX 6U1g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5332imRl47R8x47ceqzwMMrPE5txNd0P5LFt+vXtLPIqY/LzZozS om0KaK8goyqKKK3n2PzHmIbQuKidYIrHtObnOmg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxZa2vnJluNZN9dfliFzZ4KiHJ/YZiMsan8IUVXRM85zXkeiCATBwthzVQZhpM/EhuAPFj1CdWys/U8DvFNExw= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:b65b:: with SMTP id q27mr23679588qvf.8.1605100654955; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 05:17:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4CF6B760-9792-45BD-AC35-31C5C70E2646@gmail.com> <29064501-9136-451D-A7D0-9257D0FBDB26@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <29064501-9136-451D-A7D0-9257D0FBDB26@gmail.com> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 08:17:24 -0500 Message-ID: To: Stewart Bryant Cc: "Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang" , "draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions@ietf.org" , mpls , "pals@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005e0f6305b3d49ee3" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] [Pals] Mail regarding draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 13:17:39 -0000 --0000000000005e0f6305b3d49ee3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just to add a bit to Stewart's replies, I assume that you've read RFC 8469, which was the result of the "disorderly queue of operators at the door of PALS". Also, regarding VPLS, VPLS is just a full mesh of P2P Ethernet PWs, and while RFC 4762 is silent on the CW, in practice many (most?) VPLS implementations use the CW. Cheers, Andy On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 8:11 AM Stewart Bryant wrote: > Oh there is a deeper problem > > Unless you guarantee that you have defeated ECMP, which I don=E2=80=99t t= hink the > design does since first nibble is not 0000, I think the different fragmen= ts > can get ECMPed differently. If that happens then (unlike the PW case) you > cannot be sure that the fragments will arrive on the same LC, and that > means that you need to support cross line card reassembly. If that happen= s > your performance falls through the floor. > > Of course you could argue that it will mostly work, just like people > argued that not having the CW would work well enough in PW, and it did > mostly work, until it didn=E2=80=99t and we had a disorderly :) queue of = operators > at the door of PALS WG. > > Now what happens in the VPN cases in the existing design is that just lik= e > PW you will be seeing occasional Ethernet reordering, which mostly does n= ot > matter because what is being carried is IP, but as we found out in PALS i= t > sometimes does matter an it is very difficult for the operators to > diagnose, and then it does matter. However what you have is potentially > much worse because you will accumulate fragments on different line cards, > or have a very complex implementation problem to reassemble at speed. > > - Stewart > > --0000000000005e0f6305b3d49ee3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just to add a bit to Stewart's replies, I assume that = you've read RFC 8469, which was the result of the "disorderly queu= e of operators at the door of PALS".

Also, regardin= g VPLS, VPLS is just a full=C2=A0mesh of P2P Ethernet PWs, and while RFC=C2= =A04762 is silent on t= he CW, in practice many (most?) VPLS implementations use the CW.

Cheers,<= /div>
Andy<= /div>

<= /div>

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 8:11 AM Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l= eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Oh there is a deeper probl= em

Unless you guarantee that you have defeated ECMP, which I don=E2=80=99t thi= nk the design does since first nibble is not 0000, I think the different fr= agments can get ECMPed differently. If that happens then (unlike the PW cas= e) you cannot be sure that the fragments will arrive on the same LC, and th= at means that you need to support cross line card reassembly. If that happe= ns your performance falls through the floor.

Of course you could argue that it will mostly work, just like people argued= that not having the CW would work well enough in PW, and it did mostly wor= k, until it didn=E2=80=99t and we had a disorderly :) queue of operators at= the door of PALS WG.

Now what happens in the VPN cases in the existing design is that just like = PW you will be seeing occasional Ethernet reordering, which mostly does not= matter because what is being carried is IP, but as we found out in PALS it= sometimes does matter an it is very difficult for the operators to diagnos= e, and then it does matter. However what you have is potentially much worse= because you will accumulate fragments on different line cards, or have a v= ery complex implementation problem to reassemble at speed.

- Stewart

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2020 12:16:18 +0000 In-Reply-To: Cc: Stewart Bryant , "Andrew G. Malis" , "draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions@ietf.org" , mpls , "pals@ietf.org" , "bess@ietf.org" To: "Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang" References: <4CF6B760-9792-45BD-AC35-31C5C70E2646@gmail.com> <29064501-9136-451D-A7D0-9257D0FBDB26@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] [Pals] Mail regarding draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:16:30 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_028D3256-2781-4381-A873-10DD17A58493 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 In my view, the discussion on this draft demonstrate that it is not yet = ready for detailed discussion by these working groups next week. - Stewart > On 11 Nov 2020, at 16:32, Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang = wrote: >=20 > Hi Andy, Stewart, > =20 > Please see zzh> below. > =20 > From: Andrew G. Malis >=20= > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 8:17 AM > To: Stewart Bryant > > Cc: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang >; = draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions@ietf.org = ; mpls = >; pals@ietf.org = > Subject: Re: [Pals] Mail regarding = draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions > =20 > [External Email. Be cautious of content] > =20 > Just to add a bit to Stewart's replies, I assume that you've read RFC = 8469, which was the result of the "disorderly queue of operators at the = door of PALS". > =20 > Zzh> Actually I need to read on that yet. > =20 > Also, regarding VPLS, VPLS is just a full mesh of P2P Ethernet PWs, = and while RFC 4762 is silent on the CW, in practice many (most?) VPLS = implementations use the CW. > =20 > Zzh> OK if VPLS relies on data plane mac learning for packets received = from the core then indeed they=E2=80=99re a full mesh of PWs and = that=E2=80=99s different from EVPN. I=E2=80=99ll need to dig deeper into = that. Still, if we solve the EVPN problem using the generic = fragmentation method, the solution works for VPLS/PW as well. > =20 > Cheers, > Andy > =20 > =20 > On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 8:11 AM Stewart Bryant = > wrote: > Oh there is a deeper problem >=20 > Unless you guarantee that you have defeated ECMP, which I don=E2=80=99t = think the design does since first nibble is not 0000, I think the = different fragments can get ECMPed differently. If that happens then = (unlike the PW case) you cannot be sure that the fragments will arrive = on the same LC, and that means that you need to support cross line card = reassembly. If that happens your performance falls through the floor. >=20 > Zzh> I see what you mean. Perhaps we can separate the one-octet = =E2=80=9CNext Header=E2=80=9D from the existing IP =E2=80=9CNext = Header=E2=80=9D space so that the first nibble is always 0000? That = gives us 16 types of =E2=80=9CNext Header=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 or we only = need to make sure the nibble is not 4 or 6 =E2=80=93 that gives us more = types. >=20 > Zzh> Thanks. >=20 > Zzh> Jeffrey >=20 > Of course you could argue that it will mostly work, just like people = argued that not having the CW would work well enough in PW, and it did = mostly work, until it didn=E2=80=99t and we had a disorderly :) queue of = operators at the door of PALS WG. >=20 > Now what happens in the VPN cases in the existing design is that just = like PW you will be seeing occasional Ethernet reordering, which mostly = does not matter because what is being carried is IP, but as we found out = in PALS it sometimes does matter an it is very difficult for the = operators to diagnose, and then it does matter. However what you have is = potentially much worse because you will accumulate fragments on = different line cards, or have a very complex implementation problem to = reassemble at speed. >=20 > - Stewart >=20 >=20 > Juniper Business Use Only >=20 --Apple-Mail=_028D3256-2781-4381-A873-10DD17A58493 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 In = my view, the discussion on this draft demonstrate that it is not yet = ready for detailed discussion by these working groups next week.

- Stewart


On 11 = Nov 2020, at 16:32, Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang <zzhang@juniper.net> = wrote:

Hi Andy, Stewart,
 
Please see zzh> = below.
 
From: Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, = 2020 8:17 AM
To: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang = <zzhang@juniper.net>; draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions@ietf.org; = mpls <mpls@ietf.org>; pals@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Pals] Mail regarding = draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions
 
[External Email. Be = cautious of content]
 
Just to add a bit to = Stewart's replies, I assume that you've read RFC 8469, which was the = result of the "disorderly queue of operators at the door of PALS".
 
Zzh> Actually I need to = read on that yet.
 
Also, regarding VPLS, VPLS is just a = full mesh of P2P Ethernet PWs, and while RFC 4762 is silent on the CW, in = practice many (most?) VPLS implementations use the CW.
 
Zzh> OK if VPLS relies = on data plane mac learning for packets received from the core then = indeed they=E2=80=99re a full mesh of PWs and that=E2=80=99s different = from EVPN. I=E2=80=99ll need to dig deeper into that. Still, if we solve = the EVPN problem using the generic fragmentation method, the solution = works for VPLS/PW as well.
 
Cheers,
Andy
 
 
On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 8:11 AM Stewart Bryant = <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> = wrote:

Oh = there is a deeper problem

Unless you = guarantee that you have defeated ECMP, which I don=E2=80=99t think the = design does since first nibble is not 0000, I think the different = fragments can get ECMPed differently. If that happens then (unlike the = PW case) you cannot be sure that the fragments will arrive on the same = LC, and that means that you need to support cross line card reassembly. = If that happens your performance falls through the floor.

Zzh> I see = what you mean. Perhaps we can separate the one-octet =E2=80=9CNext = Header=E2=80=9D from the existing IP =E2=80=9CNext Header=E2=80=9D space = so that the first nibble is always 0000? That gives us 16 types of = =E2=80=9CNext Header=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 or we only need to make sure the = nibble is not 4 or 6 =E2=80=93 that gives us more types.

Zzh> = Thanks.

Zzh> Jeffrey

Of course you = could argue that it will mostly work, just like people argued that not = having the CW would work well enough in PW, and it did mostly work, = until it didn=E2=80=99t and we had a disorderly :) queue of operators at = the door of PALS WG.

Now what happens in = the VPN cases in the existing design is that just like PW you will be = seeing occasional Ethernet reordering, which mostly does not matter = because what is being carried is IP, but as we found out in PALS it = sometimes does matter an it is very difficult for the operators to = diagnose, and then it does matter. However what you have is potentially = much worse because you will accumulate fragments on different line = cards, or have a very complex implementation problem to reassemble at = speed.

- Stewart


Juniper Business Use = Only


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The model allows for the=0A= provisioning of static LSP(s) on Label Edge Router(s) LER(s) and=0A= Label Switched Router(s) LSR(s) devices along a LSP path without the=0A= dependency on any signaling protocol. The MPLS Static LSP model=0A= augments the MPLS base YANG model with specific data to configure and=0A= manage MPLS Static LSP(s).=0A= =0A= =0A= The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:=0A= https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang/=0A= =0A= There are also htmlized versions available at:=0A= https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang-12=0A= https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang-12=0A= =0A= A diff from the previous version is available at:=0A= https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-mpls-static-yang-12=0A= =0A= =0A= Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n=0A= until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.=0A= =0A= Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:=0A= ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/=0A= =0A= =0A= _______________________________________________=0A= mpls mailing list=0A= mpls@ietf.org=0A= https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls=0A= From nobody Thu Nov 12 04:41:35 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9863A0990 for ; 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Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:41:28 +0000 From: tom petch To: "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang-12.txt Thread-Index: AQHWsMxNQFDRJHum/ECAzqMowspe0qnEfHqy Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:41:28 +0000 Message-ID: References: <160428940445.8832.56281788489927803@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <160428940445.8832.56281788489927803@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-GB X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: ietf.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;ietf.org; dmarc=none action=none header.from=btconnect.com; x-originating-ip: [86.146.121.140] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 9b4f9f19-c436-4295-99d3-08d887084670 x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: AM6PR07MB3976: x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-ms-oob-tlc-oobclassifiers: OLM:3276; x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1 x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0; x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: X8R8IvIviZG85NG7tqKh25jEZ18QMm7eByYvSUkoyRMoSQd81miolBCnyTjYLlydwQkU4kRSlsplSYnyuH/2C2KR++po6ITZdx2gA2zSnmSTPH5itlCChiEuvxiMC/6tqBptJL0YkHQsvDimqfl47rezNHegaFIfxcvcuPmmDexHfC5gR7QdqKP9SuuBsa1Vnfq62tXgRf+Tk01DEYjmg92ehBJ5B3VV7+yvBjhiWzOSgBjoWkaAhmWsMsBx1w5kDmMplIxgGXTQCX9Fi0FbOML9stig4YK8FJsds1RPXtz8at5KsCXnOwdWuoFG8zaUWAddczlPwhArKsUQqXT+cyQyO7VU8X3wXEa+3RQssd43CX6j6HC0WCKRgHU4gSZ1S5b6nszjkVDvjhH2aiStOw== x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:255.255.255.255; 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: btconnect.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: AM7PR07MB6248.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 9b4f9f19-c436-4295-99d3-08d887084670 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 12 Nov 2020 12:41:28.2963 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: cf8853ed-96e5-465b-9185-806bfe185e30 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: wl4MS5tjiaNrikF6LrZDhHbPPjl4T+h5pDoJbUHefPbMAGbZqM9KSo+ldTIyxH0rHxJcyJOhb6wQOCL0gZjbcg== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: AM6PR07MB3976 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang-12.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:41:34 -0000 I wonder if it is worth breaking this into two YANG modules with very littl= e in the second, extended. It could instead be handled by one module with = a feature or two.=0A= =0A= Given that the IETF has abolished the page number, it would be easier to re= ference with more sections. I suggest a new section before the start of th= e YANG and a new section before the text that prefaces the YANG.=0A= =0A= The Security Considerations has a malformed reference to TLS, similar to th= at on another draft!=0A= =0A= Tom Petch=0A= =0A= =0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: mpls on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.org =0A= Sent: 02 November 2020 03:56=0A= To: i-d-announce@ietf.org=0A= Cc: mpls@ietf.org=0A= Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang-12.txt=0A= =0A= =0A= A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.=0A= This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IE= TF.=0A= =0A= Title : A YANG Data Model for MPLS Static LSPs=0A= Authors : Tarek Saad=0A= Rakesh Gandhi=0A= Xufeng Liu=0A= Vishnu Pavan Beeram=0A= Igor Bryskin=0A= Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang-12.txt=0A= Pages : 18=0A= Date : 2020-11-01=0A= =0A= Abstract:=0A= This document contains the specification for the MPLS Static Label=0A= Switched Paths (LSPs) YANG model. The model allows for the=0A= provisioning of static LSP(s) on Label Edge Router(s) LER(s) and=0A= Label Switched Router(s) LSR(s) devices along a LSP path without the=0A= dependency on any signaling protocol. The MPLS Static LSP model=0A= augments the MPLS base YANG model with specific data to configure and=0A= manage MPLS Static LSP(s).=0A= =0A= =0A= The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:=0A= https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang/=0A= =0A= There are also htmlized versions available at:=0A= https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang-12=0A= https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang-12=0A= =0A= A diff from the previous version is available at:=0A= https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-mpls-static-yang-12=0A= =0A= =0A= Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n=0A= until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.=0A= =0A= Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:=0A= ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/=0A= =0A= =0A= _______________________________________________=0A= mpls mailing list=0A= mpls@ietf.org=0A= https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls=0A= From nobody Thu Nov 12 13:37:42 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225483A0995; 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This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF. Title : Special Purpose Label terminology Authors : Loa Andersson Kireeti Kompella Adrian Farrel Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-05.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2020-11-15 Abstract: This document discusses and recommends a terminology that may be used when MPLS Special Purpose Labels (SPL) are specified and documented. This document applies that terminology change to the relevant IANA registry and also clarifies the use of the Entropy Label Indicator (7) when immediately preceded by the Extension Label (15). This document updates RFC 7274 and RFC 3032. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Nov 15 21:15:11 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9163F3A1329; Sun, 15 Nov 2020 21:15:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.895 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.895 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ONzOPRDu25J6; Sun, 15 Nov 2020 21:15:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta6.iomartmail.com (mta6.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.156]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 144853A1328; Sun, 15 Nov 2020 21:15:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from vs3.iomartmail.com (vs3.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.124]) by mta6.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 0AG5F3D7028422; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 05:15:03 GMT Received: from vs3.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0DE2203A; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 05:15:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.249]) by vs3.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9EFE22032; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 05:15:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V ([87.112.234.140]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 0AG5F26f007284 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 16 Nov 2020 05:15:02 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Cc: References: <160550354375.21471.821763555405806681@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <160550354375.21471.821763555405806681@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 05:15:02 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <01f501d6bbd7$70205c20$50611460$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQIQYSbAav7DaDFm88+11YevPVwLAqlW7EHQ Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 87.112.234.140 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-25792.004 X-TM-AS-Result: No--2.858-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--2.858-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-25792.004 X-TMASE-Result: 10--2.858500-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: vEvJ7Rh1lGhor4mPA3EMtnFPUrVDm6jtiRPU6vvejXL++qB77NPfAIR4 RLK5G1ihqthi32DRSIKoEqkKu0SlDUTKfKq8HqzdDHEg6thbROwZskwWqoib3AbYcy9YQl6eMJa nXwc+hbz3OF0UjQGrupnd5GvZSlDOs0l3lkboY0FO8qlnOXFSz88WrkDqCn1roA1qZKkyr6FBs1 Owil9bHZamD1FKnUxFfDhB00N10aJKIVgWeEFfuhRROHBHC6aTSTyFqAhtoaZo5YsPsbyLXRm2j XxDuI1jgWCX44b5qoZSVS5utHGcmnjxgHkp9duCTl/FCEyiTx72hUAowGKip8dWIKdbPEfdedld c5fgD3OtjzUaT6pNBZGTpe1iiCJqtD9qpBlNF8puHY1mnovlhAu6eoWZ7+usDMq3z/Y/gtXfd+P 6wwCt84RtqopBKUBlLl052sWHvHtCXSYiuDVaxHyNj5QiJ9L/bsbeMKeBVxB11S/VCQ0ZRA== X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-05.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 05:15:10 -0000 Hi, As promised, this just caches a couple of nits from Loa. I think the next action is with Nic, but would welcome any review comments or questions. Adrian -----Original Message----- From: mpls On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org Sent: 16 November 2020 05:12 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-05.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF. Title : Special Purpose Label terminology Authors : Loa Andersson Kireeti Kompella Adrian Farrel Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-05.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2020-11-15 Abstract: This document discusses and recommends a terminology that may be used when MPLS Special Purpose Labels (SPL) are specified and documented. This document applies that terminology change to the relevant IANA registry and also clarifies the use of the Entropy Label Indicator (7) when immediately preceded by the Extension Label (15). 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Malis" , "draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions@ietf.org" , mpls , "pals@ietf.org" , "bess@ietf.org" To: "Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang" References: <4CF6B760-9792-45BD-AC35-31C5C70E2646@gmail.com> <29064501-9136-451D-A7D0-9257D0FBDB26@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] [Pals] Mail regarding draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 09:34:42 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_6E382EA1-41D7-483B-97CA-02E50864FCC1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I think that it would be more productive to address the known issues = first, particularly the issue of ECMP and the need to change the packet = structure to make it ECMP safe, and then the WG discussion will be more = focused.=20 - Stewart > On 12 Nov 2020, at 21:37, Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang = wrote: >=20 > Hi Stewart, > =20 > I hope you did not mean that the draft should not be presented. = Whether detailed discussions can happen after the presentation in the = session itself depends on many factors (we quite often run out of time = in the sessions), and the presentation itself quite often is a good way = to stir up wide discussions. > =20 > Thanks to your review and comment, I think we=E2=80=99re having good = discussions on mailing lists on the draft. I hope I have answered your = questions and addressed your main concerns, and I hope more people chime = in, before and after the presentations in relevant WGs. > =20 > Thanks. > Jeffrey > =20 > =20 > From: Stewart Bryant >=20 > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 7:16 AM > To: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang > > Cc: Stewart Bryant >; Andrew G. Malis >; = draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions@ietf.org = ; mpls = >; pals@ietf.org = ; bess@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Pals] Mail regarding = draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions > =20 > [External Email. Be cautious of content] > =20 > In my view, the discussion on this draft demonstrate that it is not = yet ready for detailed discussion by these working groups next week. > =20 > - Stewart > =20 >=20 >=20 > On 11 Nov 2020, at 16:32, Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang > wrote: > =20 > Hi Andy, Stewart, > =20 > Please see zzh> below. > =20 > From: Andrew G. Malis >=20= > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 8:17 AM > To: Stewart Bryant > > Cc: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang >; = draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions@ietf.org = ; mpls = >; pals@ietf.org = > Subject: Re: [Pals] Mail regarding = draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions > =20 > [External Email. Be cautious of content] > =20 > Just to add a bit to Stewart's replies, I assume that you've read RFC = 8469, which was the result of the "disorderly queue of operators at the = door of PALS". > =20 > Zzh> Actually I need to read on that yet. > =20 > Also, regarding VPLS, VPLS is just a full mesh of P2P Ethernet PWs, = and while RFC 4762 is silent on the CW, in practice many (most?) VPLS = implementations use the CW. > =20 > Zzh> OK if VPLS relies on data plane mac learning for packets received = from the core then indeed they=E2=80=99re a full mesh of PWs and = that=E2=80=99s different from EVPN. I=E2=80=99ll need to dig deeper into = that. Still, if we solve the EVPN problem using the generic = fragmentation method, the solution works for VPLS/PW as well. > =20 > Cheers, > Andy > =20 > =20 > On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 8:11 AM Stewart Bryant = > wrote: > Oh there is a deeper problem >=20 > Unless you guarantee that you have defeated ECMP, which I don=E2=80=99t = think the design does since first nibble is not 0000, I think the = different fragments can get ECMPed differently. If that happens then = (unlike the PW case) you cannot be sure that the fragments will arrive = on the same LC, and that means that you need to support cross line card = reassembly. If that happens your performance falls through the floor. >=20 > Zzh> I see what you mean. Perhaps we can separate the one-octet = =E2=80=9CNext Header=E2=80=9D from the existing IP =E2=80=9CNext = Header=E2=80=9D space so that the first nibble is always 0000? That = gives us 16 types of =E2=80=9CNext Header=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 or we only = need to make sure the nibble is not 4 or 6 =E2=80=93 that gives us more = types. >=20 > Zzh> Thanks. >=20 > Zzh> Jeffrey >=20 > Of course you could argue that it will mostly work, just like people = argued that not having the CW would work well enough in PW, and it did = mostly work, until it didn=E2=80=99t and we had a disorderly :) queue of = operators at the door of PALS WG. >=20 > Now what happens in the VPN cases in the existing design is that just = like PW you will be seeing occasional Ethernet reordering, which mostly = does not matter because what is being carried is IP, but as we found out = in PALS it sometimes does matter an it is very difficult for the = operators to diagnose, and then it does matter. However what you have is = potentially much worse because you will accumulate fragments on = different line cards, or have a very complex implementation problem to = reassemble at speed. >=20 > - Stewart >=20 >=20 >=20 > Juniper Business Use Only >=20 > =20 >=20 > Juniper Business Use Only >=20 --Apple-Mail=_6E382EA1-41D7-483B-97CA-02E50864FCC1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I = think that it would be more productive to address the known issues = first, particularly the issue of ECMP and the need to change the packet = structure to make it ECMP safe, and then the WG discussion will be more = focused. 

- Stewart


On 12 = Nov 2020, at 21:37, Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang <zzhang@juniper.net> = wrote:

Hi Stewart,
 
I hope you did not mean = that the draft should not be presented. Whether detailed discussions can = happen after the presentation in the session itself depends on many = factors (we quite often run out of time in the sessions), and the = presentation itself quite often is a good way to stir up wide = discussions.
 
Thanks to your review and = comment, I think we=E2=80=99re having good discussions on mailing lists = on the draft. I hope I have answered your questions and addressed your = main concerns, and I hope more people chime in, before and after the = presentations in relevant WGs.
 
Thanks.
Jeffrey
 
 
From: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 = 7:16 AM
To: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang = <zzhang@juniper.net>
Cc: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>; = Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com>; draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions@ietf.org; = mpls <mpls@ietf.org>; pals@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Pals] Mail regarding = draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions
 
[External Email. Be = cautious of content]
 
In my view, the discussion on this = draft demonstrate that it is not yet ready for detailed discussion by = these working groups next week.
 
- = Stewart
 


On = 11 Nov 2020, at 16:32, Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang <zzhang@juniper.net> = wrote:
 
Hi Andy, Stewart,
 
Please = see zzh> below.
 
From: Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, = 2020 8:17 AM
To: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang = <zzhang@juniper.net>; draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions@ietf.org; = mpls <mpls@ietf.org>; pals@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Pals] Mail regarding = draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions
 
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Just to add a bit to Stewart's replies, = I assume that you've read RFC 8469, which was the result of the = "disorderly queue of operators at the door of PALS".
 
Zzh> = Actually I need to read on that yet.
 
Also, regarding VPLS, VPLS is just a = full mesh of P2P Ethernet PWs, and while RFC 4762 is silent on the CW, in = practice many (most?) VPLS implementations use the CW.
 
Zzh> = OK if VPLS relies on data plane mac learning for packets received from = the core then indeed they=E2=80=99re a full mesh of PWs and that=E2=80=99s= different from EVPN. I=E2=80=99ll need to dig deeper into that. Still, = if we solve the EVPN problem using the generic fragmentation method, the = solution works for VPLS/PW as well.
 
Cheers,
Andy
 
 
On Wed, = Nov 11, 2020 at 8:11 AM Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> = wrote:

Oh = there is a deeper problem

Unless you = guarantee that you have defeated ECMP, which I don=E2=80=99t think the = design does since first nibble is not 0000, I think the different = fragments can get ECMPed differently. If that happens then (unlike the = PW case) you cannot be sure that the fragments will arrive on the same = LC, and that means that you need to support cross line card reassembly. = If that happens your performance falls through the floor.

Zzh> I see = what you mean. Perhaps we can separate the one-octet =E2=80=9CNext = Header=E2=80=9D from the existing IP =E2=80=9CNext Header=E2=80=9D space = so that the first nibble is always 0000? That gives us 16 types of = =E2=80=9CNext Header=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 or we only need to make sure the = nibble is not 4 or 6 =E2=80=93 that gives us more types.

Zzh> = Thanks.

Zzh> Jeffrey

Of course you = could argue that it will mostly work, just like people argued that not = having the CW would work well enough in PW, and it did mostly work, = until it didn=E2=80=99t and we had a disorderly :) queue of operators at = the door of PALS WG.

Now what happens in = the VPN cases in the existing design is that just like PW you will be = seeing occasional Ethernet reordering, which mostly does not matter = because what is being carried is IP, but as we found out in PALS it = sometimes does matter an it is very difficult for the operators to = diagnose, and then it does matter. However what you have is potentially = much worse because you will accumulate fragments on different line = cards, or have a very complex implementation problem to reassemble at = speed.

- Stewart



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(PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.22.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mpls@ietf.org Message-ID: <160563353954.30600.6771168773812760482@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 09:18:59 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr-08.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 17:19:00 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF. Title : Refresh-interval Independent FRR Facility Protection Authors : Chandra Ramachandran Tarek Saad Ina Minei Dante Pacella Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr-08.txt Pages : 25 Date : 2020-11-17 Abstract: RSVP-TE Fast ReRoute extensions specified in RFC 4090 defines two local repair techniques to reroute Label Switched Path (LSP) traffic over pre-established backup tunnel. Facility backup method allows one or more LSPs traversing a connected link or node to be protected using a bypass tunnel. The many-to-one nature of local repair technique is attractive from scalability point of view. This document enumerates facility backup procedures in RFC 4090 that rely on refresh timeout and hence make facility backup method refresh- interval dependent. The RSVP-TE extensions defined in this document will enhance the facility backup protection mechanism by making the corresponding procedures refresh-interval independent and hence compatible with Refresh-interval Independent RSVP (RI-RSVP) specified in RFC 8370. Hence, this document updates RFC 4090 in order to support RI-RSVP capability specified in RFC 8370. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr-08 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr-08 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Malis" , "draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions@ietf.org" , mpls , "pals@ietf.org" , "bess@ietf.org" To: "Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang" References: <4CF6B760-9792-45BD-AC35-31C5C70E2646@gmail.com> <29064501-9136-451D-A7D0-9257D0FBDB26@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] [Pals] Mail regarding draft-zzhang-tsvwg-generic-transport-functions X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 06:21:11 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_7158C781-0FFD-4BB4-AF60-B32E8F29BB6C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 11 Nov 2020, at 16:32, Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang = wrote: >=20 > Zzh> I see what you mean. Perhaps we can separate the one-octet = =E2=80=9CNext Header=E2=80=9D from the existing IP =E2=80=9CNext = Header=E2=80=9D space so that the first nibble is always 0000? That = gives us 16 types of =E2=80=9CNext Header=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 or we only = need to make sure the nibble is not 4 or 6 =E2=80=93 that gives us more = types. >=20 >=20 You should use 0000. This is the IP version number space. 4 and 6 are taken as IP. BIER sits = on 3, PWs sit on 0 and 1 (for OAM), and of course there is a chance that = INT might like invent another IP at some time in the future (a general = note and nothing to do with NewIP). Now what I am not sure about is why you need a next header as this is = not needed elsewhere in MPLS PWs. If you do, then I would suggest that = 16 is likely too few. The standard MPLS method is to trigger processing from the label, so if = you want to do other processing then why not allocate a new label so you = can vector straight to the right packet handler. What I think you need is the existing PW frag design with the = identification field appended. Then to advertise those propertied with = the label. - Stewart --Apple-Mail=_7158C781-0FFD-4BB4-AF60-B32E8F29BB6C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

On 11 Nov 2020, at 16:32, Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang <zzhang@juniper.net> = wrote:

Zzh> I see what you mean. Perhaps we can = separate the one-octet =E2=80=9CNext Header=E2=80=9D from the existing = IP =E2=80=9CNext Header=E2=80=9D space so that the first nibble is = always 0000? That gives us 16 types of =E2=80=9CNext Header=E2=80=9D =E2=80= =93 or we only need to make sure the nibble is not 4 or 6 =E2=80=93 that = gives us more types.




You = should use 0000.

This is the IP version number space. 4 and 6 are taken as IP. = BIER sits on 3, PWs sit on 0 and 1 (for OAM), and of course there is a = chance that INT might like invent another IP at some time in the future = (a general note and nothing to do with NewIP).

Now what I am not sure about is why you = need a next header as this is not needed elsewhere in MPLS PWs. If you = do, then I would suggest that 16 is likely too few.

The standard MPLS method = is to trigger processing from the label, so if you want to do other = processing then why not allocate a new label so you can vector straight = to the right packet handler.

What I think you need is the existing = PW frag design with the identification field appended. Then to advertise = those propertied with the label.

- Stewart



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[IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF4A3A0ED6; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 10:05:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.23.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mpls@ietf.org Message-ID: <160580913151.18461.8835413808084711443@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 10:05:31 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ninan-mpls-spring-inter-domain-oam-01.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 18:05:31 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF. Title : PMS/Head-end based MPLS Ping and Traceroute in Inter-domain SR Networks Authors : Shraddha Hegde Kapil Arora Mukul Srivastava Samson Ninan Nagendra Kumar Filename : draft-ninan-mpls-spring-inter-domain-oam-01.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2020-11-19 Abstract: Segment Routing (SR) architecture leverages source routing and tunneling paradigms and can be directly applied to the use of a Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) data plane. A network may consist of multiple IGP domains or multiple ASes under the control of same organization. It is useful to have the LSP Ping and traceroute procedures when an SR end-to-end path spans across multiple ASes or domains. This document describes mechanisms to facilitae LSP ping and traceroute in inter-AS/inter-domain SR networks in an efficient manner with simple OAM protocol extension which uses dataplane forwarding alone for sending Echo-Reply. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ninan-mpls-spring-inter-domain-oam/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ninan-mpls-spring-inter-domain-oam-01 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ninan-mpls-spring-inter-domain-oam-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ninan-mpls-spring-inter-domain-oam-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Nov 19 10:06:51 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8703A0EFC; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 10:06:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.23.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mpls@ietf.org Message-ID: <160580920687.7043.8608840856433179411@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 10:06:46 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-sr-epe-oam-01.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 18:06:47 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF. Title : Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping/Traceroute for Segment Routing (SR) Egress Peer Engineering Segment Identifiers (SIDs) with MPLS Data Planes Authors : Shraddha Hegde Kapil Arora Mukul Srivastava Samson Ninan Xiaohu Xu Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-sr-epe-oam-01.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2020-11-19 Abstract: Egress Peer Engineering (EPE) is an application of Segment Routing to Solve the problem of egress peer selection. The Segment Routing based BGP-EPE solution allows a centralized controller, e.g. a Software Defined Network (SDN) controller to program any egress peer. The EPE solution requires a node to program the PeerNode Segment Identifier(SID) describing a session between two nodes, the PeerAdj SID describing the link (one or more) that is used by sessions between peer nodes, and the PeerSet SID describing an arbitrary set of sessions or links between a local node and its peers. This document provides new sub-TLVs for EPE Segment Identifiers (SID) that would be used in the MPLS Target stack TLV (Type 1), in MPLS Ping and Traceroute procedures. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-sr-epe-oam/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-sr-epe-oam-01 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mpls-sr-epe-oam-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-sr-epe-oam-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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The DDMT validation will ensure control plane And forwarding plane synchronization between the two routers. The validation of controller's state with actual forwarding state on the Nodes will have to be validated externally by controller/application. In this regard following changes have been done 1. Removed interface address from PeerNode SID and PeerSet SID 2. Updated validation procedures 3. Added text to describe the validation scope=20 Let me know if you have any further comment on the document. Rgds Shraddha Juniper Business Use Only -----Original Message----- From: mpls On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 11:37 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-sr-epe-oam-01.txt [External Email. Be cautious of content] A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IE= TF. Title : Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping/Traceroute for Seg= ment Routing (SR) Egress Peer Engineering Segment Identifiers (SIDs) with M= PLS Data Planes Authors : Shraddha Hegde Kapil Arora Mukul Srivastava Samson Ninan Xiaohu Xu Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-sr-epe-oam-01.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2020-11-19 Abstract: Egress Peer Engineering (EPE) is an application of Segment Routing to Solve the problem of egress peer selection. The Segment Routing based BGP-EPE solution allows a centralized controller, e.g. a Software Defined Network (SDN) controller to program any egress peer. The EPE solution requires a node to program the PeerNode Segment Identifier(SID) describing a session between two nodes, the PeerAdj SID describing the link (one or more) that is used by sessions between peer nodes, and the PeerSet SID describing an arbitrary set of sessions or links between a local node and its peers. 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Thanks, Ketan -----Original Message----- From: mpls On Behalf Of Shraddha Hegde Sent: 19 November 2020 23:40 To: mpls@ietf.org; i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-sr-epe-oam-01.txt Dear WG members, latest version of the draft draft-ietf-mpls-sr-epe-oam posted During WG adoption call, there were comments to exclude the Interface addre= ss details from the PeerNode Sid and PeerSet SID Target FEC TLV. The DDMT v= alidation will ensure control plane And forwarding plane synchronization be= tween the two routers. The validation of controller's state with actual forwarding state on the No= des will have to be validated externally by controller/application. In this regard following changes have been done 1. Removed interface address from PeerNode SID and PeerSet SID 2. Updated validation procedures 3. Added text to describe the validation scope=20 Let me know if you have any further comment on the document. Rgds Shraddha Juniper Business Use Only -----Original Message----- From: mpls On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 11:37 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-sr-epe-oam-01.txt [External Email. Be cautious of content] A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IE= TF. Title : Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping/Traceroute for Seg= ment Routing (SR) Egress Peer Engineering Segment Identifiers (SIDs) with M= PLS Data Planes Authors : Shraddha Hegde Kapil Arora Mukul Srivastava Samson Ninan Xiaohu Xu Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-sr-epe-oam-01.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2020-11-19 Abstract: Egress Peer Engineering (EPE) is an application of Segment Routing to Solve the problem of egress peer selection. The Segment Routing based BGP-EPE solution allows a centralized controller, e.g. a Software Defined Network (SDN) controller to program any egress peer. The EPE solution requires a node to program the PeerNode Segment Identifier(SID) describing a session between two nodes, the PeerAdj SID describing the link (one or more) that is used by sessions between peer nodes, and the PeerSet SID describing an arbitrary set of sessions or links between a local node and its peers. This document provides new sub-TLVs for EPE Segment Identifiers (SID) that would be used in the MPLS Target stack TLV (Type 1), in MPLS Ping and Traceroute procedures. 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This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF. Title : OSPFv3 CodePoint for MPLS LSP Ping Authors : Nagendra Kumar Nainar Carlos Pignataro Mustapha Aissaoui Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-ospfv3-codepoint-03.txt Pages : 6 Date : 2020-11-20 Abstract: IANA has created "Protocol in the Segment IS Sub-TLV" registry and "Protocol in the Label Stack Sub-TLV of the Downstream Detailed Mapping TLV" under the "Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Paths (LSPs) Ping Parameters" registry. RFC8287 defines the code point for different Interior Gateway Protocol (IGP). This document proposes the code point to be used in the Segment ID Sub-TLV and Downstream Detailed Mapping TLV when the IGP protocol is OSPFv3. This document also clarifies that the existing codepoints of these two TLVs called "OSPF" shall only be used for OSPFv2. 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This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF. Title : Refresh-interval Independent FRR Facility Protection Authors : Chandra Ramachandran Tarek Saad Ina Minei Dante Pacella Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr-09.txt Pages : 27 Date : 2020-11-22 Abstract: RSVP-TE Fast ReRoute extensions specified in RFC 4090 defines two local repair techniques to reroute Label Switched Path (LSP) traffic over pre-established backup tunnel. Facility backup method allows one or more LSPs traversing a connected link or node to be protected using a bypass tunnel. The many-to-one nature of local repair technique is attractive from scalability point of view. This document enumerates facility backup procedures in RFC 4090 that rely on refresh timeout and hence make facility backup method refresh- interval dependent. The RSVP-TE extensions defined in this document will enhance the facility backup protection mechanism by making the corresponding procedures refresh-interval independent and hence compatible with Refresh-interval Independent RSVP (RI-RSVP) specified in RFC 8370. Hence, this document updates RFC 4090 in order to support RI-RSVP capability specified in RFC 8370. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr-09 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr-09 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr-09 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Thanks, Chandra. Juniper Business Use Only > -----Original Message----- > From: Benjamin Kaduk > Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2019 8:53 AM > To: Alvaro Retana > Cc: Chandrasekar Ramachandran ; The IESG > ; draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; mpl= s- > chairs@ietf.org; Nicolai Leymann > Subject: Re: Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr-07: (= with > DISCUSS and COMMENT) >=20 > On Wed, Dec 04, 2019 at 02:53:40PM -0800, Alvaro Retana wrote: > > On December 4, 2019 at 1:50:12 PM, Chandrasekar Ramachandran wrote: > > > > Chandra: > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Alvaro Retana via Datatracker > > .... > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ---- > > > > DISCUSS: > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > =A74.1 (Requirement on RFC 4090 Capable Node to advertise RI-RSVP > > > > Capability) > > > > says: > > > > > > > > A node supporting [RFC4090] facility protection FRR MAY set the > > > > RI- RSVP capability (I bit) defined in Section 3 of RSVP-TE > > > > Scaling Techniques [RFC8370] only if it supports all the > > > > extensions specified in the rest of this document. A node > > > > supporting [RFC4090] facility bypass FRR but not supporting the > > > > extensions specified in this document MUST reset the RI-RSVP > > > > capability (I bit) in the outgoing Node-ID based Hello messages. > > > > Hence, this document updates [RFC4090] by defining extensions and > > > > additional procedures over facility protection FRR defined in > > > > [RFC4090] in order to advertise RI-RSVP capability [RFC8370]. > > > > > > > > I understand the intent: advertise the I bit if this specification > > > > is supported, and don't if it is not. However, the second sentence > > > > cannot be normative ("MUST reset the RI-RSVP capability") because, > > > > by definition, a node that doesn't support this specification > > > > won't implement anything in it. IOW, this document can't mandate a > > > > behavior for nodes that may not be aware of it. > > > > > > > > The conditions for supporting RI-RSVP from rfc8370/=A73 don't > > > > contemplate this specification (obviously!), which means that > > > > nodes that conform to > > > > rfc8370 may advertise the capability without supporting this > > > > document. Note that rfc8370 doesn't even mention rfc4090, so the > > > > setting of the I bit seems independent to it too. > > > > > > > > I am balloting DISCUSS because the correct setting of the RI-RSVP > > > > capability is essential to the operation described in this document= . > > > > > > > > > > [Chandra] I agree that what you have pointed out requires some > > > changes to the text. Would the following changes to the document > > > address your concerns adequately? > > .... > > > (3) Change the only paragraph in Section 4.1 from "A node supporting > > > [RFC4090] facility protection FRR MAY set the RI-RSVP capability (I > > > bit) defined in Section 3 of RSVP-TE Scaling Techniques [RFC8370] > > > only if it supports all the extensions specified in the rest of this > > > document. A node supporting [RFC4090] facility bypass FRR but not > > > supporting the extensions specified in this document MUST reset the > > > RI-RSVP capability (I bit) in the outgoing Node-ID based Hello > > > messages. Hence, this document updates [RFC4090] by defining > > > extensions and additional procedures over facility protection FRR > > > defined in [RFC4090] in order to advertise RI-RSVP capability [RFC837= 0]." > > > To > > > "A node supporting [RFC4090] facility protection FRR MUST set the > > > RI- RSVP capability (I bit) defined in Section 3 of RSVP-TE Scaling > > > Techniques [RFC8370] only if it supports all the extensions > > > specified in the rest of this document. Hence, this document updates > > > [RFC4090] and [RFC8370] by defining extensions and additional > > > procedures over facility protection FRR defined in [RFC4090] in order= to > advertise RI-RSVP capability [RFC8370]." > > > > This new text removes the Normative specification for nodes that don't > > support this document, which is good. > > > > But what about implementations of rfc8370 that may still set the I bit > > -- before taking the Update into account. =A0The draft talks about > > backwards compatibility (when some nodes don't support the new > > functionality), but it doesn't cover the transition period when some > > nodes might set the I bit independent of whether they support this > > document or not. =A0I would like to see in the text operational > > considerations of the potential impact of setting the I bit even if > > the new functionality is not supported (a paragraph or two should be > > enough); take a look at rfc5706/=A72.3. >=20 > Let me ask the dumb/obvious question: why do we have to overload the I > bit for this purpose? Can't we allocate a new bit that has precisely the > semantics we want for the new document, without changing the semantics > of an existing bit? [Chandra] Reproducing the response sent to Alvaro: --- draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec (which went on to become RFC8370) and d= raft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr started off as companion documents. Early WG dra= ft versions of RFC8370 (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te= -scaling-rec-02, Sec 2.2) had explicit text saying that if an RFC4090 bypas= s implementation opts to support RI-RSVP, then it must also implement proce= dures specified in draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr (RI-RSVP-FRR). But based on = WG feedback (rightly so), it was decided that draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scali= ng-rec should be kept fairly generic (applicable to all data-plane technolo= gies) and shouldn't include any MPLS specific implementation recommendation= s.=20 If an RFC4090 bypass implementation adds support for just RI-RSVP [RFC8370]= and does not add support for RI-RSVP-FRR, it leaves room for stale state t= o linger around for a long time (given the long refresh-interval) after a f= ailover event. Section 3 "Problem Description" of RI-RSVP-FRR draft delves = on this in detail. Hence, RI-RSVP-FRR updates RFC4090 bypass FRR procedures= and makes them refresh interval independent, i.e. plugs the gap in applyin= g RI-RSVP [RFC8370] technique to RFC4090 bypass procedures. So, the recomme= ndation for RFC4090 bypass implementations is to not turn on RI-RSVP if RI-= RSVP-FRR is not supported. --- I have also reworded the text in Section 4.1 to spell out the requirements = on setting or not setting the I-bit by implementations that support RFC 409= 0 and RFC 8370. I have also included a new Section 4.6.2.3 "Advertising RI-= RSVP without RI-RSVP-FRR" describing the impact of ignoring the requirement= s for setting the I-bit. Could you go through the latest 09 version of the = draft and respond if the changes address your comment? Thanks, Chandra. 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anything else the authors need to do. I think the next action, as noted in the chairs' slides from Bangkok, is with the chairs to do a working group last call specifically on the changes since -03. Thanks, Adrian -----Original Message----- From: mpls On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel Sent: 16 November 2020 05:15 To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-05.txt Hi, As promised, this just catches a couple of nits from Loa. I think the next action is with Nic, but would welcome any review comments or questions. Adrian -----Original Message----- From: mpls On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org Sent: 16 November 2020 05:12 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-05.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF. Title : Special Purpose Label terminology Authors : Loa Andersson Kireeti Kompella Adrian Farrel Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-05.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2020-11-15 Abstract: This document discusses and recommends a terminology that may be used when MPLS Special Purpose Labels (SPL) are specified and documented. This document applies that terminology change to the relevant IANA registry and also clarifies the use of the Entropy Label Indicator (7) when immediately preceded by the Extension Label (15). This document updates RFC 7274 and RFC 3032. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-05 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-05 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-05 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nobody Mon Nov 23 19:59:33 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3023A0DAE; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 19:59:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TRN7jlcYC4im; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 19:59:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5141C3A0DAC; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 19:59:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.14] (unknown [111.125.109.89]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D22F323990; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 04:59:24 +0100 (CET) To: adrian@olddog.co.uk, mpls-chairs@ietf.org Cc: mpls@ietf.org References: <160550354375.21471.821763555405806681@ietfa.amsl.com> <01f501d6bbd7$70205c20$50611460$@olddog.co.uk> <056e01d6c1c9$dbad18f0$93074ad0$@olddog.co.uk> From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 11:59:05 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <056e01d6c1c9$dbad18f0$93074ad0$@olddog.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-05.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 03:59:32 -0000 Adrian, wg group On 24/11/2020 02:52, Adrian Farrel wrote: > Just chasing up to see whether there is anything else the authors need to > do. > I'm fine with the document as it is. > I think the next action, as noted in the chairs' slides from Bangkok, is > with the chairs to do a working group last call specifically on the changes > since -03. Yes, Nic should start this wglc, the wg chairs talked about it. I think one week is enough. /Loa > > Thanks, > Adrian > > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel > Sent: 16 November 2020 05:15 > To: mpls@ietf.org > Cc: mpls-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-05.txt > > Hi, > > As promised, this just catches a couple of nits from Loa. > > I think the next action is with Nic, but would welcome any review comments > or questions. > > Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: 16 November 2020 05:12 > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: mpls@ietf.org > Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-05.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the > IETF. > > Title : Special Purpose Label terminology > Authors : Loa Andersson > Kireeti Kompella > Adrian Farrel > Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-05.txt > Pages : 8 > Date : 2020-11-15 > > Abstract: > This document discusses and recommends a terminology that may be used > when MPLS Special Purpose Labels (SPL) are specified and documented. > > This document applies that terminology change to the relevant IANA > registry and also clarifies the use of the Entropy Label Indicator > (7) when immediately preceded by the Extension Label (15). > > This document updates RFC 7274 and RFC 3032. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-05 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-05 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-05 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert loa.pi.nu@gmail.com Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Wed Nov 25 20:02:18 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD0C3A00D8; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 20:02:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mpls@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.23.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mpls@ietf.org Message-ID: <160636333048.27390.12823631644725895914@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 20:02:10 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-06.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 04:02:11 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF. Title : Updating the IANA MPLS LSP Ping Parameters Authors : Loa Andersson Mach Chen Carlos Pignataro Tarek Saad Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-06.txt Pages : 34 Date : 2020-11-25 Abstract: This document updates RFC 8029 and RFC 8611 that both define IANA registries for MPLS LSP Ping. It also updates the description of the procedures for the responses sent when an unknown or erroneous code point is found. The updates are to clarify and align this name space with recent developments. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-06 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Nov 25 20:14:43 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BD23A044A; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 20:14:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QUnD0irxt8K3; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 20:14:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20A933A0420; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 20:14:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.14] (unknown [111.125.109.89]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 07A12323990; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 05:14:36 +0100 (CET) To: mpls@ietf.org References: <160636333048.27390.12823631644725895914@ietfa.amsl.com> Cc: Adrian Farrel , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <8f15bf75-0ec4-d931-bb8a-c3d6397e4d14@pi.nu> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 12:14:16 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <160636333048.27390.12823631644725895914@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-06.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 04:14:42 -0000 Working Group, I have updated and uploaded version -06 of draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update. Shanges are minor. - one typos - clarified compliant behavior for unrecognise Expermintal TLV and sub-TLVs /Loa On 26/11/2020 12:02, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF. > > Title : Updating the IANA MPLS LSP Ping Parameters > Authors : Loa Andersson > Mach Chen > Carlos Pignataro > Tarek Saad > Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-06.txt > Pages : 34 > Date : 2020-11-25 > > Abstract: > This document updates RFC 8029 and RFC 8611 that both define IANA > registries for MPLS LSP Ping. It also updates the description of the > procedures for the responses sent when an unknown or erroneous code > point is found. The updates are to clarify and align this name space > with recent developments. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-06 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-06 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-06 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert loa.pi.nu@gmail.com Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Wed Nov 25 21:52:45 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C173A0B71; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 21:52:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Crj7kwQzLuZi; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 21:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0B113A0B74; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 21:52:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.14] (unknown [111.125.109.89]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DFB24323990; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 06:52:37 +0100 (CET) From: Loa Andersson To: "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-control@ietf.org" Cc: "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Message-ID: <771c5739-230d-be05-0a2e-c5a121e87e34@pi.nu> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 13:52:16 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-control X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 05:52:43 -0000 Working Group, authors, We are preparing draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-control for the working adoption poll. The first step is an IPR poll.. This mail starts this IPR poll. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-control? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). There are currently two IPR disclosures against draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-control. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. **The response needs to be sent to the MPLS WG mailing list.** The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. /Loa mpls wg co-chair -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert loa.pi.nu@gmail.com Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Thu Nov 26 03:12:12 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4923A11A1; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 03:12:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=stewartbryantcom.onmicrosoft.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id giW0F_GPFT82; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: stewartbryant.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: LO2P123MB2637.GBRP123.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 22afb36d-ddc8-44c0-27e8-08d891fc1c6f X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 26 Nov 2020 11:12:06.6968 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 08ac3335-91dd-4a2d-90a7-b5e825494a75 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: YDkbm1x+ubWfXjadywp7SFsOV/z/IrbXwgThB90QsYCPgN3gNW+26quaD+fCNOWAQemmBesPWSzWSN0n4VU+dg== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: LNXP123MB3803 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-control X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 11:12:11 -0000 The only IPR I know about is the IPR Cisco declared some time ago against t= his draft. Best regards Stewart > On 26 Nov 2020, at 05:52, Loa Andersson wrote: >=20 > Working Group, authors, >=20 > We are preparing draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-control for the working adoption = poll. The first step is an IPR poll.. >=20 > This mail starts this IPR poll. >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-control? >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >=20 > There are currently two IPR disclosures against draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-con= trol. >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. **The response needs to be sent to the MPLS WG mailing list.** The > document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been > received from each author and contributor. >=20 > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >=20 >=20 > /Loa > mpls wg co-chair >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu > Senior MPLS Expert loa.pi.nu@gmail.com > Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Thu Nov 26 07:48:59 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A473A142B; 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The working group adoption poll ends Dec 11, 2020. /Loa mpls wg co-chair -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert loa.pi.nu@gmail.com Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Thu Nov 26 20:01:15 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64AD3A0E0E; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 20:01:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.096 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.096 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VG4VsvVrgTXB; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 20:01:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lf1-x134.google.com (mail-lf1-x134.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CAB63A0E0A; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 20:01:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lf1-x134.google.com with SMTP id t6so5153692lfl.13; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 20:01:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=TB8xJDuY0LTkoxaeHUuguuIieW3YF0gCKBj1L0BwTTg=; b=urVERMYJ8DCNWlA0xT7HQ4FYoPyh2jnaXYFqFgLzefHqWCxcrhQCQiIgT4oSFVMKUz pL5dRuylwEksTTNpTLolisQvXux7/ZbxnGXli4GU3jE6AWdKF0DnDpmk+wsMCQzRqIaE RrlVEeOAW2kcSMITc5jSlOBTWIUO/U0tg7KYDkQRMnP2GnwoR9e+odS+CUhDRb5Yu/hV Ia3kalEZQFqPQx6LiMzec2PW+Uh61JzQeXQu+CFtBXHUGOdLFAj9uX+wjt6YvpLtFAP1 jvDUMHR0O/32SulLBWQgqE5izZzr//vPqbQKGMgBuu63xXOCrir9/lD3pKJ7q7B2zX+s bTCQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=TB8xJDuY0LTkoxaeHUuguuIieW3YF0gCKBj1L0BwTTg=; b=IPVAzFgT+wklNstnEaVSFweimCGwToD+Muk9jmsIEQFhZQXLEIHdS773Aqb/jKxooS eSAR7eTU65SPiRd4ZyL3B0C4uK0WWgIsNlfay9osEUiUZnXzKrRg1kyHGLeD6dqSX4yj hyYl3U7z0fRihC58Pv6tC1+A0+AZn1biQwkJ96W+0ovqQi60uLrRZVM+w29HDBfA9+6n KxU6v+xmTIfDf4iMI2dDyJG4IUcINukTyKed+8lg3ueW9pn8DO16ucnOFLFSZw2smH2x dZXvbg7znjsVTK5M8WgJx+/Iaq6OB6PTC9HWXiTag4hckMdRW318bUBvLaTKTfZyBgBM XwPQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532bQ7ipZtFQ4EbzS8KRxBw3ZkZ7x/FWeb0BJuod0ouRU/TJopdO GC90ma+CnRKxQKtTYEtx1Nq55ucswuvv/L08l/o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyYftLwzVmTu2CRwmsgQDNtNKWKbEpKOg7V2THXigSe6gaISMRgW6anNbQnDhP9oIFMgLSaYatfqHtHUov4EEw= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:5503:: with SMTP id j3mr2570524lfk.94.1606449669284; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 20:01:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <27447ea9-7fe6-5cdc-b739-962e6144f7ce@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <27447ea9-7fe6-5cdc-b739-962e6144f7ce@pi.nu> From: Greg Mirsky Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 20:00:57 -0800 Message-ID: To: Loa Andersson Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-control@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e3261505b50eb5b2" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] workinh hroup sdoption poll on draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-contro X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 04:01:13 -0000 --000000000000e3261505b50eb5b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Loa, Authors, et al., this draft is an important component of the SFL solution. I support the adoption of this draft by the WG. Regards, Greg On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 7:50 PM Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, > > This is to start a two week poll on adopting > draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-contro > as a MPLS working group document. > > Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working > group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical > motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that > the document should not be adopted as a working group document. > > There are two IPR disclosures against this document. > > The authors have stated on the MPLS wg mailing list (or directly to the > document shepherd) that they are unaware of any IPRs that relates to > this document. > > The working group adoption poll ends Dec 11, 2020. > > /Loa > mpls wg co-chair > -- > > Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu > Senior MPLS Expert loa.pi.nu@gmail.com > Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > --000000000000e3261505b50eb5b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Loa, Authors, et al.,
this draft is an important co= mponent of the SFL solution. I support the adoption of this draft by the WG= .

Regards,
Greg

On Thu, Nov 26, 202= 0 at 7:50 PM Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu&g= t; wrote:
Workin= g Group,

This is to start a two week poll on adopting
draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-contro
as a MPLS working group document.

Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working
group mailing list (mpls= @ietf.org). Please give a technical
motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that
the document should not be adopted as a working group document.

There are two IPR disclosures against this document.

The authors have stated on the MPLS wg mailing list (or directly to the document shepherd) that they are unaware of any IPRs that relates to
this document.

The working group adoption poll ends Dec 11, 2020.

/Loa
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Malis" Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 00:37:00 -0500 Message-ID: To: Greg Mirsky Cc: Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-control@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000055ea8b05b5100d38" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] workinh hroup sdoption poll on draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-contro X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 05:37:15 -0000 --00000000000055ea8b05b5100d38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" +1 (and the draft name is draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-control). Cheers, Andy On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 11:01 PM Greg Mirsky wrote: > Hi Loa, Authors, et al., > this draft is an important component of the SFL solution. I support the > adoption of this draft by the WG. > > Regards, > Greg > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 7:50 PM Loa Andersson wrote: > >> Working Group, >> >> This is to start a two week poll on adopting >> draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-contro >> as a MPLS working group document. >> >> Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working >> group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical >> motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that >> the document should not be adopted as a working group document. >> >> There are two IPR disclosures against this document. >> >> The authors have stated on the MPLS wg mailing list (or directly to the >> document shepherd) that they are unaware of any IPRs that relates to >> this document. >> >> The working group adoption poll ends Dec 11, 2020. >> >> /Loa >> mpls wg co-chair >> -- >> >> Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu >> Senior MPLS Expert loa.pi.nu@gmail.com >> Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list >> mpls@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >> > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > --00000000000055ea8b05b5100d38 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+1 (and the draft name is=C2=A0draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-contr= ol).

Cheers,
Andy


On T= hu, Nov 26, 2020 at 11:01 PM Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Loa, Authors, et al.,<= div>this draft is an important component of the SFL solution. I support the= adoption of this draft by the WG.

Regards,
<= div>Greg

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 7:50 PM Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l= eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Working Group,

This is to start a two week poll on adopting
draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-contro
as a MPLS working group document.

Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working
group mailing list (mpls= @ietf.org). Please give a technical
motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that
the document should not be adopted as a working group document.

There are two IPR disclosures against this document.

The authors have stated on the MPLS wg mailing list (or directly to the document shepherd) that they are unaware of any IPRs that relates to
this document.

The working group adoption poll ends Dec 11, 2020.

/Loa
mpls wg co-chair
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Malis" X-Mailer: iPad Mail (17H35) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] workinh hroup sdoption poll on draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-contro X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 07:37:26 -0000 --Apple-Mail-95FE8E02-1E1C-41C5-B4A8-BC6275037C0B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy,=20 Do you remember the old story about a student hackning on his school PC whil= e drinking Coke and eating Digestive? Crumbs of Digestive and drops of Coke f= ell into the keyboard and after a few months the keyboard was more or less s= olid and stopped working.=20 I don=E2=80=99t drink coke or eat Digestive, but one of the kids here manage= d to pour half a glass of mango juice down Into my keyboard. Almost the same= effect =F0=9F=98=9C. I saw some odd results, when I (after cleaning and dry= ing up the keyboard), I pressed Shift nothing happened., when I pressed =E2=80= =9Cg=E2=80=9D the screen showed =E2=80=9Ch=E2=80=9D. When I pressed =E2=80=9C= h=E2=80=9D an =E2=80=9Ch=E2=80=9D were correctly shown.=20 The missing l at the end of =E2=80=9Ccontrol=E2=80=9D Is a copy paste mistak= e.=20 Once I have my keyboard fixed, I will also clean up the mail.=20 /Loa Sent from my iPad > On 27 Nov 2020, at 13:37, Andrew G. Malis wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > +1 (and the draft name is draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-contro > Cheers, > Andy >=20 >=20 >> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 11:01 PM Greg Mirsky wrot= e: >> Hi Loa, Authors, et al., >> this draft is an important component of the SFL solution. I support the a= doption of this draft by the WG. >>=20 >> Regards, >> Greg >>=20 >>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 7:50 PM Loa Andersson wrote: >>> Working Group, >>>=20 >>> This is to start a two week poll on adopting >>> draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-contro >>> as a MPLS working group document. >>>=20 >>> Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working >>> group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical >>> motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that >>> the document should not be adopted as a working group document. >>>=20 >>> There are two IPR disclosures against this document. >>>=20 >>> The authors have stated on the MPLS wg mailing list (or directly to the=20= >>> document shepherd) that they are unaware of any IPRs that relates to=20 >>> this document. >>>=20 >>> The working group adoption poll ends Dec 11, 2020. >>>=20 >>> /Loa >>> mpls wg co-chair >>> --=20 >>>=20 >>> Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu >>> Senior MPLS Expert loa.pi.nu@gmail.com >>> Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpls mailing list >>> mpls@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >> _______________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list >> mpls@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --Apple-Mail-95FE8E02-1E1C-41C5-B4A8-BC6275037C0B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, 

Do you remem= ber the old story about a student hackning on his school PC while drinking C= oke and eating Digestive? Crumbs of Digestive and drops of Coke fell into th= e keyboard and after a few months the keyboard was more or less solid and st= opped working. 
I don=E2=80=99t drink coke or eat Digestive, b= ut one of the kids here managed to pour half a glass of mango juice down Int= o my keyboard. Almost the same effect =F0=9F=98=9C. I saw some odd results, w= hen I (after cleaning and drying up the keyboard), I pressed Shift nothing h= appened., when I pressed =E2=80=9Cg=E2=80=9D the screen showed =E2=80=9Ch=E2= =80=9D. When I pressed =E2=80=9Ch=E2=80=9D an =E2=80=9Ch=E2=80=9D were corre= ctly shown. 
The missing l at the end of =E2=80=9Ccontrol=E2=80= =9D Is a copy paste mistake. 

Once I have my k= eyboard fixed, I will also clean up the mail. 

/Loa
Sent from my iPad
On 27 Nov 2020, at 13:37, Andrew G. Malis <agm= alis@gmail.com> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
+1 (and the draft name is = draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-contro
Cheers,
Andy

=

O= n Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 11:01 PM Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Loa, Authors, et al.,this draft is an important component of the SFL solution. I support the ad= option of this draft by the WG.

Regards,
= Greg

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 7:50 PM Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
Working Group,

This is to start a two week poll on adopting
draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-contro
as a MPLS working group document.

Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working
group mailing list (mpls@= ietf.org). Please give a technical
motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that
the document should not be adopted as a working group document.

There are two IPR disclosures against this document.

The authors have stated on the MPLS wg mailing list (or directly to the
= document shepherd) that they are unaware of any IPRs that relates to
this document.

The working group adoption poll ends Dec 11, 2020.

/Loa
mpls wg co-chair
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Senior MPLS Expert                &n= bsp;         loa.pi.nu@gmail.com
Bronze Dragon Consulting             phon= e: +46 739 81 21 64

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The first step is an IPR poll.. This mail starts this IPR poll. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-ospfv3-codepoint? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). There are currently no IPR disclosures against draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-ospfv3-codepoint. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. **The response needs to be sent to the MPLS WG mailing list.** The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Working Group, This is to initiate a two week working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-s= pl-terminology. Please note that this is the second WGLC, there were a few = changes necessary to the draft. Please send your comments to the MPLS WG mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). There are no IPR disclosures against draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology. Both the authors and the contributors have stated on the working group mail= ing list that they are unaware of any non-disclosed IPRs that relates to th= is document. This working group last call ends December 12th, 2020. Regards Nic --_000_LEJPR01MB0812A6A0AA254C95E503141198F80LEJPR01MB0812DEUP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Working Group,

 

This is to initiate a two we= ek working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology. Please note = that this is the second WGLC, there were a few changes necessary to the dra= ft.

 

Please send your comments to= the MPLS WG mailing list (mpls@ietf.org).

 

There are no IPR disclosures= against draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology.

 

Both the authors and the con= tributors have stated on the working group mailing list that they are unawa= re of any non-disclosed IPRs that relates to this document.

 

This working group last call= ends December 12th, 2020.

 

Regards

 

Nic

 

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Stewart > On 27 Nov 2020, at 11:59, N.Leymann@telekom.de wrote: >=20 > Working Group, > =20 > This is to initiate a two week working group last call on = draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology. Please note that this is the second = WGLC, there were a few changes necessary to the draft. > =20 > Please send your comments to the MPLS WG mailing list (mpls@ietf.org = ). > =20 > There are no IPR disclosures against draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology. > =20 > Both the authors and the contributors have stated on the working group = mailing list that they are unaware of any non-disclosed IPRs that = relates to this document. > =20 > This working group last call ends December 12th, 2020. > =20 > Regards > =20 > Nic > =20 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls = --Apple-Mail=_E56ED919-1E39-49AF-BA0A-C18624F9BBB1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I = have read this and it is ready for publication.

Stewart

On 27 = Nov 2020, at 11:59, N.Leymann@telekom.de wrote:

Working Group,
 
This is = to initiate a two week working group last call on = draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology. Please note that this is the second = WGLC, there were a few changes necessary to the draft.
 
Please = send your comments to the MPLS WG mailing list (mpls@ietf.org).
 
There = are no IPR disclosures against draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology.
 
Both = the authors and the contributors have stated on the working group = mailing list that they are unaware of any non-disclosed IPRs that = relates to this document.
 
This working group last call = ends December 12th, 2020.
 
Regards
 
Nic
 
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= --Apple-Mail=_E56ED919-1E39-49AF-BA0A-C18624F9BBB1-- From nobody Fri Nov 27 04:15:30 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299293A0A4A; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 04:15:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.916 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.916 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iAcbKVd0zEPU; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 04:15:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta8.iomartmail.com (mta8.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.158]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0F7F3A0A49; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 04:15:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from vs3.iomartmail.com (vs3.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.124]) by mta8.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 0ARCFDBm021707; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 12:15:22 GMT Received: from vs3.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1615E2204C; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 12:15:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.248]) by vs3.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08AA22204E; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 12:15:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V ([195.166.134.111]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 0ARCFKRR003002 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 27 Nov 2020 12:15:21 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: , , , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 12:15:19 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <047101d6c4b6$f9da8cf0$ed8fa6d0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0472_01D6C4B6.F9DB0220" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQHLrWtQi4DsNAKlKLSczLG726/GW6nyEsEg Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 195.166.134.111 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-25814.007 X-TM-AS-Result: No--18.983-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--18.983-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-25814.007 X-TMASE-Result: 10--18.982700-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: ZFzIhWOuIztxWR+9hcFWA3FPUrVDm6jt+IfriO3cV8R5xaVclJA5pemW pqKXmZL58DzfMS0SNe1pud7zDWRyY+rR7R0X1wff0H8ihGEHNUd6QyBM5BtUW/gnJH5vm2+g7oX lOczULjFNQkd+iy1Z4VPAfp9FxHjd36uJ7k9YM5cm2C2fR2e+B7q5gapsvWFSDO+DX+rUwfYZto 18Q7iNYzGJw1TMiWU7IBXyBBHOCKd2+e/KC87QWE7yqWc5cVLPfYrr1p9yfCo4XREg9Ki106jPD 2CRrh2KKX2hgt8YivpJpV9rHFX3jwK3yA1Y0A1+wbRQ2BpmliraCn4DqCiXNtcS1tDil/IjyHgE LoGTDQRbcjR0YZo7XwJZUTDWynxt2vAIkf50eYPClTVZIGXfyMt3zHe6QppeMDH8ciA/3Z0ihTA H318jSuW6MT5A9GvTUNDjd2RbdrksMLcUZMcjd4vptQwz5tsi/3x8h/jAheVEYKkGDepfqyxZV2 XdhwOwx/S29zUMRS5YPFQZ2UDeC3hN9wwQ3njengIgpj8eDcBpkajQR5gb3r6qvLNjDYTwzz3je hzenezPvfjkPVP+X9934/rDAK3zhG2qikEpQGVXELRgap5jsDZSyEWoqWGkkA80eCnhRoi2C+pC QJD+F1RH/z5TLB7P X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] MPLS WGLC for draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 12:15:28 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0472_01D6C4B6.F9DB0220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I'm an author, so I would say this. I think this document is ready for publication. I think it is in much better shape than the first time around (many thanks to Stewart for driving a lot of the improvements). Adrian From: N.Leymann@telekom.de Sent: 27 November 2020 12:00 To: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology@ietf.org Subject: MPLS WGLC for draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology Working Group, This is to initiate a two week working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology. Please note that this is the second WGLC, there were a few changes necessary to the draft. Please send your comments to the MPLS WG mailing list ( mpls@ietf.org). There are no IPR disclosures against draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology. Both the authors and the contributors have stated on the working group mailing list that they are unaware of any non-disclosed IPRs that relates to this document. This working group last call ends December 12th, 2020. Regards Nic ------=_NextPart_000_0472_01D6C4B6.F9DB0220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well, I’m an author, so = I would say this…

 

I think this = document is ready for publication. I think it is in much better shape = than the first time around (many thanks to Stewart for driving a lot of = the improvements).

 

Adrian

 

From: N.Leymann@telekom.de = <N.Leymann@telekom.de>
Sent: 27 November 2020 = 12:00
To: mpls-chairs@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; = draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology@ietf.org
Subject: MPLS WGLC = for draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology

 

Working Group,

 

This is to initiate a two week = working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology. Please note = that this is the second WGLC, there were a few changes necessary to the = draft.

 

Please send your comments to the MPLS WG mailing list = (mpls@ietf.org).

 

There are no IPR disclosures against = draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology.

 

Both the authors and the = contributors have stated on the working group mailing list that they are = unaware of any non-disclosed IPRs that relates to this = document.

 

This working group last call ends December 12th, = 2020.

 

Regards

 

Nic

 

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Malis" Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 09:42:28 -0500 Message-ID: To: Stewart Bryant Cc: Nicolai Leymann , draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology@ietf.org, mpls-chairs , mpls Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001bee6b05b517ac2c" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [mpls] MPLS WGLC for draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 14:42:43 -0000 --0000000000001bee6b05b517ac2c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I agree. Cheers, Andy On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 7:06 AM Stewart Bryant wrote: > I have read this and it is ready for publication. > > Stewart > > On 27 Nov 2020, at 11:59, N.Leymann@telekom.de wrote: > > Working Group, > > This is to initiate a two week working group last call on > draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology. Please note that this is the second WGLC, > there were a few changes necessary to the draft. > > Please send your comments to the MPLS WG mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). > > There are no IPR disclosures against draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology. > > Both the authors and the contributors have stated on the working group > mailing list that they are unaware of any non-disclosed IPRs that relates > to this document. > > This working group last call ends December 12th, 2020. > > Regards > > Nic > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > --0000000000001bee6b05b517ac2c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I agree.

Cheers,
Andy


On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 7:06 AM Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> wrote= :
I have read this and it is ready for publicatio= n.

Stewart

On= 27 Nov 2020, at 11:59, N.Leymann@telekom.de wrote:

<= div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,san= s-serif">Working Group,
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This is to initiate a two week working group last call on d= raft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology. Please note that this is the second WGLC, t= here were a few changes necessary to the draft.
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= Please send your comments to the MPLS WG mailing list = (mpls@ietf.org<= /span>).
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There are no IPR disclosures against draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology.<= u>
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Both the authors and the cont= ributors have stated on the working group mailing list that they are unawar= e of any non-disclosed IPRs that relates to this document.
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<= div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,san= s-serif">This working group last call ends December 12= th, 2020.
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This is a correction. You may respond to this mail or the orignal, if yoy responded no need to do it again. On 27/11/2020 11:50, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, > > This is to start a two week poll on adopting > draft-bryant-mpls-sfl-control > as a MPLS working group document. > > Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working > group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical > motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that > the document should not be adopted as a working group document. > > There are two IPR disclosures against this document. > > The authors have stated on the MPLS wg mailing list (or directly to the > document shepherd) that they are unaware of any IPRs that relates to > this document. > > The working group adoption poll ends Dec 11, 2020. > > /Loa > mpls wg co-chair -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert loa.pi.nu@gmail.com Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Mon Nov 30 07:21:25 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101703A0D89; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 07:21:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.619 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.619 tagged_above=-999 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