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From nemo-bounces@ietf.org Sun Aug 06 12:05:36 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G9l85-0000xN-Ra; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 12:05:29 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G9l84-0000xH-9z for nemo@ietf.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 12:05:28 -0400 Received: from stsc1260-eth-s1-s1p1-vip.va.neustar.com ([156.154.16.129] helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G9jJr-00088a-GJ for nemo@ietf.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 10:09:31 -0400 Received: from [67.15.157.13] (helo=serv01.siteground5.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G9j5x-0002TL-VE for nemo@ietf.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 09:55:11 -0400 Received: from boostwor by serv01.siteground5.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1G9j5q-0003JG-0r for nemo@ietf.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:55:03 -0500 To: nemo@ietf.org Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 08:55:01 -0500 From: labiod@enst.fr Message-ID: <7c83d3107a17e240e5fe049b71aa07ff@www.boostwork.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer [version 1.73] X-Mailer: PHPlist v2.10.2 X-MessageID: 11 X-ListMember: nemo@ietf.org Precedence: bulk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - serv01.siteground5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32094 596] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - serv01.siteground5.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 8b6657e60309a1317174c9db2ae5f227 Subject: [nemo] [CFP] NTMS'2007 - 1th International Conference on New Technologies, Mobility and Security (NTMS 2007) X-BeenThere: nemo@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: NEMO Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: nemo-bounces@ietf.org Dear Colleagues, Please feel free to send this CFP to your friends and colleagues that might be interested in the topics of NTMS’2007 International Conference. This message is cross-posted to several lists. We apologize for multiple copies. --------------------- CALL FOR PAPERS - NTMS 2007 ---------------------------------- 1th International Conference on New Technologies, Mobility and Security (NTMS 2007) Technically co-sponsored by IFIP and IEEE France Computer Section April 30 to May 3, 2007 - Beirut, Lebanon http://www.ntms2007.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Due to last events in Lebanon, the NTMS 2007 conference place can be moved to France ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NTMS'2007 aims at fostering advances in the areas of New Technologies, Wireless Networks, Mobile Computing, Ad hoc and Ambient Networks, QoS, Network Security and E-commerce, to mention a few, and provides a dynamic forum for researchers, students and professionals to present their state-of-the-art research and development in these interesting areas. The event will be combined with tutorial sessions and workshops. Tutorials will precede the main program, aiming at the dissemination of mature knowledge and technology advances in the field. Two or more Workshops will immediately follow the main conference, offering the opportunity for a more focused exchange of ideas and presentation of on-going research relevant to selected topics. During NTMS'2007, demo areas will also be available to R&D labs and consortia to demonstrate their prototype implementations, or other prominent results. TOPICS OF INTEREST ------------------------------- The organising and technical committees of the conference are seeking original contributions in the areas of, but not limited to: Analysis and design of network architectures and algorithms Network management and traffic engineering Network, transport, and application-layer protocols Resource management, quality of service, signalling & scheduling Routing, switching, and addressing Network fault-tolerance & reliability, debugging & troubleshooting Network security, vulnerability, authentication and access control Intrusion Detection, Prediction, and Countermeasures Smart Device, Identity, Privacy and Trust Privacy, contract agreements, and payment systems Public key infrastructure implementation Mobile code security & Security management E-business and E-commerce security Peer-to-peer, overlay, and content distribution networks Optical networks and switching Wireless Mesh Networks & Metropolitan Area Networks (WiMAX, 802.16e) 3G & Wireless Personal Area Networks (Wimedia, UWB, Bluetooth, ...) Wireless Local Area Networks (Wi-Fi, ...) & Wireless Local Loop Ad hoc, Sensor Networks and Embedded Systems, Ambient Networks Mobility management and Handover Medium Access Control & Scheduling Techniques for Wireless Systems Cross-layer network design and optimization Pervasive, Ubiquitous and Mobile Computing Agents and Middleware, Agent Computing and Agent Applications Grid and cluster computing & Context aware computing Adaptation software development Next generation systems & Service-oriented techniques Component based software engineering &Software verification & analysis Web Commerce & Services, Data models, Web searching & querying XML, Query Processing & Optimization, Storage Structures & Indexing Web Mining & Web Semantic SUBMISSION GUIDELINES -------------------------------------- Authors are invited to submit complete and original papers. All submitted papers will be refereed for quality, correctness, originality and relevance. Authors of accepted papers will be required to produce final versions of their papers in IEEE camera ready format (double column) according to IEEE Computer Society Press style guidelines Preferred maximum paper length is 5 printed pages (10-point font) including figures, graphics and tables. However, papers for review of up to 8 pages in length will also be accepted, although accepted papers exceeding 5 pages will be charged an overlength fee of $100 for the 6th page. NTMS'2007 is using the EDAS Conference Management System (http://edas.info) to manage paper submissions process. The proposal for tutorial should include the title and clear explanation of the content of the proposed tutorial. Please include in the proposal (1) Organizer Name, (2) Name of proposed instructor, (3) Title of tutorial and detailed outline, (4) Qualifications of proposed instructor, (5) Full contact information: mailing address, telephone & fax number, and email address. IMPORTANT DATES ------------------------------ Draft papers should be submitted by December 20, 2006 Authors will receive the acceptance notification by February 20, 2007 Final papers for presentation should be sent before March 15, 2007 Tutorial Workshop (Instructor) Submission due : November 5, 2006 Deadline Notification of Tutorial & Workshop Acceptance : December 30, 2006 CONFERENCE COMMITTEES ----------------------------------------- ----- CONFERENCE PROGRAM CO-CHAIRS Houda Labiod - General Chair (ENST Paris) - France Bassel Souleiman (ENST Bretagne) - France Bilal Chebaro (Lebanese University) - Lebanon ----- TECHNICAL PROGRAM CO-CHAIRS Houda Labiod - General Chair (ENST Paris) - France Stamatios Kartalopoulos, (University of Oklahoma), USA Pascal Lorenz (Université de Haute Alsace), France ----- TECHNICAL PROGRAM COMMITTEE Akmal Abdelfatah (American University of Sharjah), UAE Mohamed Achemlal (France Telecom R&D Caen), France Khaldoun Al Agha (University Paris-Sud), France Kablan Barbar (Lebanese University), Lebanon Carlo Blundo (Di Salerno University), Italy Raouf Boutaba (University of Waterloo), Canada Azzedine Boukerche (University of ottawa), Canada Rajkumar Buyya (University of Melbourne), Australia Jacques Demerjian (ESRGroups), France Mahmoud Doughan (Lebanese University), Lebanon Bertrand du Castel (Axalto), USA Khaled Fouad Elsayed (Cairo University), Egypt Stephan Flake (ORGA Systems), Germany Steve Furnell (University of Plymouth), United Kingdom Giulio Galante (Istituto Superiore Mario Boella), Italy Wassim Haddad (Ericsson Research), Canada James Hughes (Sun Microsystems), USA Bilel Jamoussi (Nortel - Northern Telecom), Canada Joe Khalife (Lebanese American University), Lebanon Yvon Kermarrec (ENST Bretagne), France Bo-Kyung Lee (Korea Polytechnic University), Korea Seng Loke (La Trobe University), Australia Maryline Maknavicius (INT Evry),France Imad Mougharbel (Lebanese University), Lebanon Chafik Moukbel (Balamand University), Lebanon Hasnaa Moustafa (France Telecom R&D Paris), France Elie Najm (ENST Paris), France Ahmad Nasri (American University of Beirut), Lebanon Jose Marcos Nogueira (Federal Univ. of Minas Gerais) , Brasil Alessandro Nordio (Polytechnico di Torino), Italy Pierre Paradinas (CNAM), France Guy Pujolle (Paris 6 Univeristy),France Francis Rousseaux (Université de Reims), France Pedro Ruiz (University of Murcia), Espagne Kassem Saleh (American University of Sharjah), UAE Yahya Sanadidi (University of California), USA Brunilde Sansò (École Polytechnique de Montréal), Canada Christian Schindelhauer (University of Paderborn), Germany David Simplot-Ryl (Université de Lille 1, LIFL & INRIA), France Otto Spaniol (RWTH Aachen University), Germany Steve Uhlig (Université catholique de Louvain), Belgium Pascal Urien (ENST Paris), France Sung-Ming Yen (National Central University), Taiwan Cui Yong (Tsinghua University), China Bin Zhu (Microsoft Research Asia),China ----- Steering Board Prof. Houda Labiod (ENST Paris), France Prof. Algirdas Pakstas (London Metropolitan University), England Prof. Stamatios Kartalopoulos (University of Oklahoma), USA Dr. Mohamad Badra (ENST Paris), France Dr. Jacques Demerjian (ESRGroups), France Mr. Samer El Sawda (ENST Paris), France Dr. Ibrahim Hajjeh (Acti Group), France Dr. Ouahiba Fouial (ESRGroups), France ----- WORKSHOPS & TUTORIALS CHAIR Michel Riguidel (ENST Paris) - France Mohamad Badra (ENST Paris) - France CONTACT: -------------- Associate Prof. Labiod Houda INFRES Department - ENST Paris 46, rue barrault 75634 Paris Cedex 13 - France E-mail :labiod@enst.fr -- Powered by PHPlist, www.phplist.com -- From nemo-bounces@ietf.org Sun Aug 06 17:06:53 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G9ppi-0000jD-VH; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 17:06:50 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G9pph-0000j3-Li for nemo@ietf.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 17:06:49 -0400 Received: from concorde.inria.fr ([192.93.2.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G9ppe-0005Sw-1g for nemo@ietf.org; Sun, 06 Aug 2006 17:06:49 -0400 Received: from iseran-2.local ([193.251.230.32]) (authenticated bits=0) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k76L6a2f018204 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 23:06:39 +0200 Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 23:06:39 +0200 From: Thierry Ernst To: ml-nemo Message-Id: <20060806230639.7d2a71e6.thierry.ernst@inria.fr> Organization: INRIA X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; powerpc-apple-darwin7.8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart=_Sun__6_Aug_2006_23_06_39_+0200_VfkAzxmMZcjJvyPt" X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 44D659DC.000 on concorde : j-chkmail score : XX : 5/20 0 X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 44D659DC.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 33cc095b503da4365ce57c727e553cf1 Subject: [nemo] CFP 2nd WONEMO event in January 2007 - in conjunction with SAINT X-BeenThere: nemo@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: NEMO Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: nemo-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Multipart=_Sun__6_Aug_2006_23_06_39_+0200_VfkAzxmMZcjJvyPt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all, [Please accept our apologies if you receive multiple copies of this message.] It's my pleasure to announce that we will hold a 2nd edition of WONEMO (WOrkshop on NEtwork MObility) in January 2007, but this time in conjunction with the SAINT conference, and still in Japan (hopefully, in 2008 we will move to another country). Note that the papers must not exceed 4 pages and that we are seeking papers dealing with any approach for supporting network mobility (i.e. not only IETF's NEMO Basic Support, but also BGP-4, LIN6, etc). The CFP is attached and can be found at the following web page: http://www.nautilus6.org/events/wonemo2007/ Link to the list of all workshops colocated with SAINT: http://infonet.cse.kyutech.ac.jp/conf/saint07/workshops/CFPaper/index.html Please don't hesitate to pass this information around you to other people known to be working on any network-mobility related topic. PS: There have been CFPs much less on topic than the following one; in any case it's should be our policy to accept on this list posts advertising NEMO-related events] Regards, Dr. Ryuji Wakikawa and Dr. Thierry Ernst, co-organizers of WONEMO'07. --Multipart=_Sun__6_Aug_2006_23_06_39_+0200_VfkAzxmMZcjJvyPt Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="wonemo2007.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="wonemo2007.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 CgogICAgICAgICAgICBTQUlOVCAyMDA3IFdvcmtzaG9wIG9uIE5ldHdvcmsgTW9iaWxpdHkgKFdP TkVNTykKICAgICAgICAgICAgICBodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm5hdXRpbHVzNi5vcmcvZXZlbnRzL3dvbmVt bzIwMDcvCiAgaHR0cDovL2luZm9uZXQuY3NlLmt5dXRlY2guYWMuanAvY29uZi9zYWludDA3L3dv cmtzaG9wcy9DRlBhcGVyL2luZGV4Lmh0bWwKICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICBKYW51YXJ5IDE1 LTE5LCBIaXJvc2hpbWEsIEphcGFuCgo9PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09CiBJbXBvcnRhbnQg 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-0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GAoFT-0001uD-TB for nemo@ietf.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:37:27 -0400 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.175]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GAoFS-0003hr-KX for nemo@ietf.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:37:27 -0400 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id e2so123467ugf for ; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 06:37:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=pbr1UoBSiyBm8s4sRzI8mRVv4bzrZDkrYIceWmPKw6Hhn95IiRqotZ71jklyeNVkfnIeJS60/I1IELrG4tSysc6+oefoG5i2XNV76h5+zFZ4Qu5ZuyhcFiHX2g6wklNTytBgdC1tG3uKnlLSzrqlqvHQUbgnRrnCnPB0MK07qjY= Received: by 10.66.221.19 with SMTP id t19mr906594ugg; Wed, 09 Aug 2006 06:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.118.10 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Aug 2006 06:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8716059d0608090637j2b1e5462j45795f347f9fddba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:37:25 +0100 From: "Ferial Mimoune" To: nemo@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 79899194edc4f33a41f49410777972f8 Subject: [nemo] Questions X-BeenThere: nemo@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: NEMO Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: nemo-bounces@ietf.org Hi, I want to ask you some questions, if you want to answer me. I wish a little more precision please. 1- the MR sends a RA to all the node in the mobile network, where the prefix is entirely different from the prefix obtained by the MR from the AR, it obtains this prefix by mechanisms of delegation of prefix such as Automatic Prefix Delegation, Router Advertisement Prefix Delegation or Is IPv6 Prefix Options for DHCPv6, is this that? and this prefix could be derived from the prefix obtained by the MR in the RA sent by the AR? 2- LFN (Local Fixed Node) in the mobile network, can configure a temporary address but this address will not be register to another node, can it use this address as IPv6 address when it is attached to a mobile network and send packets with this address (its CoA) as source address, will be this possible? Best regards, Ferial From nemo-bounces@ietf.org Thu Aug 10 05:25:46 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GB6nK-0000W6-1G; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 05:25:38 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GB6nI-0000PZ-HS for nemo@ietf.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 05:25:36 -0400 Received: from motgate8.mot.com ([129.188.136.8]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GB6nH-0000Yg-8a for nemo@ietf.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 05:25:36 -0400 Received: from il06exr04.mot.com (il06exr04.mot.com [129.188.137.134]) by motgate8.mot.com (8.12.11/Motorola) with ESMTP id k7A9PWXQ026054; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:25:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.161.201.117] (zfr01-2117.crm.mot.com [10.161.201.117]) by il06exr04.mot.com (8.13.1/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k7A9PUhW010037; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 04:25:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <44DAFB88.5080508@motorola.com> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:25:28 +0200 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ferial Mimoune Subject: Re: [nemo] Questions References: <8716059d0608090637j2b1e5462j45795f347f9fddba@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8716059d0608090637j2b1e5462j45795f347f9fddba@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAQ= X-White-List-Member: TRUE X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7aafa0432175920a4b3e118e16c5cb64 Cc: nemo@ietf.org X-BeenThere: nemo@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: NEMO Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: nemo-bounces@ietf.org Ferial Mimoune wrote: > Hi, I want to ask you some questions, if you want to answer me. I > wish a little more precision please. > > 1- the MR sends a RA to all the node in the mobile network, where > the prefix is entirely different from the prefix obtained by the MR > from the AR, it obtains this prefix by mechanisms of delegation of > prefix such as Automatic Prefix Delegation, Router Advertisement > Prefix Delegation or Is IPv6 Prefix Options for DHCPv6, is this that? Hi Ferial, thanks for the question, shorter phrases would be better :-) Terminology: Automatic Prefix Delegation - what is it? What draft/RFC? Router Advertisement Prefix Delegation - what is it? DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation - I know what is, it is specified in an RFC. > and this prefix could be derived from the prefix obtained by the MR > in the RA sent by the AR? Well, the prefix sent in an RA is usually for hosts to derive addresses from it, not to be propagated further; thus, by current RFCs the prefix received by a router (in RA) should not be used to derive another prefix and re-propagate it further. There are however some exceptions to this behaviour. With Router Renumbering (RFC2894) routers forward Commands amongst them, and the Commands contain new prefixes to be used. With HMIPv6 (RFC4140) a MAP Option contained in one RA is propagated by all routers in a domain, in subsequent RAs. One could build a system where the MR derives a new prefix from the prefix received in the RA on its egress interface. For what purpose? > 2- LFN (Local Fixed Node) in the mobile network, can configure a > temporary address but this address will not be register to another > node, can it use this address as IPv6 address when it is attached to > a mobile network and send packets with this address (its CoA) as > source address, will be this possible? Yes, it is possible for LFN to configure several IPv6 addresses on its interface, and use any of these addresses as source address for some communications. If the address is derived from a prefix MR derived from the prefix received in its egress interface, then this address will change every time MR receives a new prefix in its egress interface. That is LFN's address is not stable, i.e. its communications break when MR changes prefix. But as long as MR stays attached to the same wireless system and receives the same prefix, LFN's address won't change. If this connection is long enough for user purpose then its communications won't break. Alex From nemo-bounces@ietf.org Thu Aug 10 06:38:45 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GB7vn-000564-Is; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 06:38:27 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GB7vl-00055w-2N for nemo@ietf.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 06:38:25 -0400 Received: from szxga02-in.huawei.com ([61.144.161.54]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GB7vf-0001wd-8r for nemo@ietf.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 06:38:25 -0400 Received: from huawei.com (szxga02-in [172.24.2.6]) by szxga02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3S003NA3MJUC@szxga02-in.huawei.com> for nemo@ietf.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:54:20 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.1.18]) by szxga02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3S0041E3MJ52@szxga02-in.huawei.com> for nemo@ietf.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:54:19 +0800 (CST) Received: from h50541 ([10.164.45.206]) by szxml03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0J3S00KB42Z4OF@szxml03-in.huawei.com> for nemo@ietf.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:40:18 +0800 (CST) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:36:49 +0800 From: Andy Huang Subject: Re: [nemo] Questions To: Alexandru Petrescu , Ferial Mimoune Message-id: <072801c6bc68$e34cce00$ce2da40a@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <8716059d0608090637j2b1e5462j45795f347f9fddba@mail.gmail.com> <44DAFB88.5080508@motorola.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d0bdc596f8dd1c226c458f0b4df27a88 Cc: nemo@ietf.org X-BeenThere: nemo@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: NEMO Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: nemo-bounces@ietf.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandru Petrescu" To: "Ferial Mimoune" Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [nemo] Questions > Ferial Mimoune wrote: >> Hi, I want to ask you some questions, if you want to answer me. I wish a >> little more precision please. >> >> 1- the MR sends a RA to all the node in the mobile network, where the >> prefix is entirely different from the prefix obtained by the MR from the >> AR, it obtains this prefix by mechanisms of delegation of prefix such as >> Automatic Prefix Delegation, Router Advertisement Prefix Delegation or >> Is IPv6 Prefix Options for DHCPv6, is this that? > > Hi Ferial, thanks for the question, shorter phrases would be better :-) > > Terminology: Automatic Prefix Delegation - what is it? What draft/RFC? > Router Advertisement Prefix Delegation - what is it? > DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation - I know what is, it is specified > in an RFC. > >> and this prefix could be derived from the prefix obtained by the MR in >> the RA sent by the AR? > > Well, the prefix sent in an RA is usually for hosts to derive addresses > from it, not to be propagated further; thus, by current RFCs the prefix > received by a router (in RA) should not be used to derive another prefix > and re-propagate it further. > > There are however some exceptions to this behaviour. With Router > Renumbering (RFC2894) routers forward Commands amongst them, and the > Commands contain new prefixes to be used. With HMIPv6 (RFC4140) a MAP > Option contained in one RA is propagated by all routers in a domain, in > subsequent RAs. > > One could build a system where the MR derives a new prefix from the > prefix received in the RA on its egress interface. For what purpose? > => It may be useful to RO. There is an expired I-D using similar method to solve NEMO RO. >> 2- LFN (Local Fixed Node) in the mobile network, can configure a >> temporary address but this address will not be register to another node, >> can it use this address as IPv6 address when it is attached to a mobile >> network and send packets with this address (its CoA) as source address, >> will be this possible? > > Yes, it is possible for LFN to configure several IPv6 addresses on its > interface, and use any of these addresses as source address for some > communications. If the address is derived from a prefix MR derived from > the prefix received in its egress interface, then this address will > change every time MR receives a new prefix in its egress interface. > That is LFN's address is not stable, i.e. its communications break when > MR changes prefix. > > But as long as MR stays attached to the same wireless system and > receives the same prefix, LFN's address won't change. If this > connection is long enough for user purpose then its communications won't > break. > > Alex > > From nemo-bounces@ietf.org Sat Aug 12 09:04:26 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GBtA3-0005mh-1e; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:04:19 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GBtA1-0005hK-Cd for nemo@ietf.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:04:17 -0400 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.171]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GBtA0-0000Dr-4I for nemo@ietf.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:04:17 -0400 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so240440uge for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 06:04:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uCdCjy2gsLcouERyYHQ1Jdp22CmtbPqeau+LQ3UakPqvqXHE0DL6ZKHP2uIeBJrF74nTt+YNkXNBui7k+BlFqLR2wTwVdahkQDFM10X1Czrico1pakHQadvXXGHYS9QQxROL7QhsY33v6hlcs6ZuNhNcoJa21SeU9VAKvJATsuk= Received: by 10.67.93.7 with SMTP id v7mr5410380ugl; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 06:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.118.10 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 06:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8716059d0608120604k16338039n43a930ec571b70e0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 14:04:15 +0100 From: "Ferial Mimoune" To: "Alexandru Petrescu" Subject: Re: [nemo] Questions In-Reply-To: <44DAFB88.5080508@motorola.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8716059d0608090637j2b1e5462j45795f347f9fddba@mail.gmail.com> <44DAFB88.5080508@motorola.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 856eb5f76e7a34990d1d457d8e8e5b7f Cc: nemo@ietf.org X-BeenThere: nemo@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: NEMO Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: nemo-bounces@ietf.org Thank you alex for your answers and for your interest. I want to speak about Route Optimization(RO) in mobile network which allows each mobile nodes in mobile network to perform RO, the MR gets a prefix from an AR using: -Automatic Prefix Delegation:It allows routers to request any prefix from the upper router and defines two new ICMP message types. -Router Advertisement Prefix Delegation: extends the functionality of the IPv6 Router Advertisement (RA) messages and it can be used to assign one or more address prefixes - and DHCPv6 Thereafter,the MR advertises the delegated prefix to its subnet by sending a RA to all the nodes in mobile network to configure their care-of addres. Best regards, Ferial. From nemo-bounces@ietf.org Sat Aug 12 09:09:26 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GBtF0-0000lE-PW; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:09:26 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GBtF0-0000l9-9p for nemo@ietf.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:09:26 -0400 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.172]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GBtEz-0000jo-1Q for nemo@ietf.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:09:26 -0400 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so241033uge for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 06:09:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Qp7zQ6INCJp33AC1BhrKDh65qt9AHOIAw4ByqJGZnzVsvONdLJCvfwLzD/SgEB18QMFqVxDJXkuhr181v9Ztv6+z80WvhnH0sGph4e4KKiBgtyHM2b77KpGvLE1caLFPmVZA66b2tZ48Vt26/HjdfM4SaKVQ6uaMPPCDnDAWBT8= Received: by 10.66.240.12 with SMTP id n12mr5409666ugh; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 06:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.118.10 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Aug 2006 06:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8716059d0608120609t36635713w3d61a26d83bbec5a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 14:09:24 +0100 From: "Ferial Mimoune" To: nemo@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <8716059d0608090637j2b1e5462j45795f347f9fddba@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8716059d0608090637j2b1e5462j45795f347f9fddba@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: de4f315c9369b71d7dd5909b42224370 Subject: [nemo] Re: Questions X-BeenThere: nemo@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: NEMO Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: nemo-bounces@ietf.org Thank you alex for your answers and for your interest. I want to speak about Route Optimization(RO) in mobile network which allows each mobile nodes in mobile network to perform RO, the MR gets a prefix from an AR using: -Automatic Prefix Delegation:It allows routers to request any prefix from the upper router and defines two new ICMP message types. -Router Advertisement Prefix Delegation: extends the functionality of the IPv6 Router Advertisement (RA) messages and it can be used to assign one or more address prefixes - and DHCPv6 Thereafter,the MR advertises the delegated prefix to its subnet by sending a RA to all the nodes in mobile network to configure their care-of addres. Best regards, Ferial. From nemo-bounces@ietf.org Thu Aug 17 11:55:19 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GDkD2-0001x7-VD; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:55:04 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GDkD1-0001vC-9o for nemo@ietf.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:55:03 -0400 Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr ([192.93.2.78]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GDkCw-0006S9-Sl for nemo@ietf.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:55:03 -0400 Received: from dhcp-rocq-97.inria.fr (dhcp-rocq-97.inria.fr [128.93.62.97]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7HFsurU018699 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:54:56 +0200 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:55:01 +0200 From: Thierry Ernst To: ml-nemo Message-Id: <20060817175501.3d63c109.thierry.ernst@inria.fr> Organization: INRIA X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; powerpc-apple-darwin7.8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08170828343bcf1325e4a0fb4584481c Subject: [nemo] Montreal meeting material X-BeenThere: nemo@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: NEMO Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: nemo-bounces@ietf.org Dear all, I've updated the NEMO WG 2ndary page with last meeting material material (minutes, slides and audio):; http://www.mobilenetworks.org/nemo/ In the audio recording, the NEMO WG meeting starts at 11'30'' (so, if you listen from the beginning, you will actually listen to the end of the Monami6 WG) and the 5 last minutes were not recorded. Note that audio is not linked from the official IETF proceedings: https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/meeting_materials.cgi?meeting_num=66 Thierry. From nemo-bounces@ietf.org Thu Aug 24 01:36:48 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GG7tH-0005UQ-NN; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:36:31 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GG7tF-0005U8-R9 for nemo@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:36:29 -0400 Received: from f.csce.kyushu-u.ac.jp ([133.5.33.1]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GG7tE-0004ls-3n for nemo@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:36:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 23795 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2006 05:09:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Aug 2006 05:09:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:09:50 +0900 From: kitasuka@f.csce.kyushu-u.ac.jp To: manet@ietf.org, mip4@ietf.org, mip6@ietf.org, mipshop@ietf.org, monami6@ietf.org, nemo@ietf.org Message-Id: <20060824140453.A1FB.KITASUKA@f.csce.kyushu-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.25.02 [ja] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d8ae4fd88fcaf47c1a71c804d04f413d Cc: Subject: [nemo] call for participation: ICMU2006, 11-13 October, London - Int. Conf. on Mobile Computing and Ubiquitous Networking X-BeenThere: nemo@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: NEMO Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: nemo-bounces@ietf.org (apologies if you receive multiple copies of this message) Call for Participation ------------------------ The 3rd International Conference on Mobile Computing and Ubiquitous Networking (ICMU2006) October 11-13, 2006 BCS London Office, London, UK Sponsored by Information Processing Society of Japan Technically Co-Sponsored by British Computer Society, Institution of Engineering and Technology, and IEEE ITS Society, Technical Committee on Mobile Communications & Applications Supported by International Communications Foundation and SCAT (Support Center for Advanced Telecommunications Technology Research, Foundation) For detailed information about travel and hotel, please refer to the conference webpage: http://www.icmu.org/icmu2006/ ICMU2006 is the 3rd of a successful series of conferences that aim to serve as a specialized conference on a broad range of research topics centred on mobile computing and ubiquitous networking. ICMU strives to provide a place for researchers and practitioners from the globe to meet together to exchange latest research ideas and outcomes on ubiquitous networks and mobile computing. ICMU2006 is to be held in London, UK, one of the most accessible and attractive cities in the world. Keynote Talks ------------- Wednesday, Oct. 11 2006: "RFID: Towards an IP-based Application ? by Ms. Monique Jeanne Morrow, Cisco Systems, Inc., USA Thursday, Oct. 12, 2006: "Reconciling Communication Networks, Sensor Networks, and Human Networks: a Social Perspective on Ubiquitous Computing ? by Dr. Ken Wood of Microsoft Research Cambridge, UK Friday, Oct. 13, 2006: "Toward Ubiquitous Wireless Networking: the Evolution of Keitai (Cell Phone) Communication?by Dr. Atsushi Murase of NTT DoCoMo, Japan Program in Brief ---------------- 8 Oral Sessions: (1) Location, (2) QoS, Scheduling, Performance; (3) Ad hoc & sensor networks -1, (4) Ad hoc & sensor networks -2; (5) Security, Privacy; (6) Architecture; (7) Application-1; (8) Application-2 Panel Session, Poster Session Organizers ----------- General Chair C K Toh: Univ. of Hong Kong Technical Program Co-Chairs Susumu Ishihara: Shizuoka Univ., Japan Eiji Kamioka: National Institute of Informatics, Japan Publications Co-chairs Gen Kitagata: Tohoku Univ., Japan Yang Yang: University College London, UK Publicity Co-chairs Teruaki Kitasuka: Kyusyu Univ., Japan Kun Yang: Univ. of Essex, UK Local Arrangement Chair David Martland: Kingston University, UK Hiroshi Mineno: Shizuoka University, Japan Treasurers Tomohiko Yagyu: NEC, Japan David Martland: Kingston University, UK Registration Co-Chairs Jindong Hou: France Telecom, UK Homare Murakami: NICT, Japan Steering Committee Osamu Takahashi: Future Univ.Hakodate, Japan Tadanori Mizuno: Shizuoka Univ., Japan Takashi Watanabe: Shizuoka Univ., Japan Miki Yamamoto: Kansai Univ., Japan