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I have few minor comments on this I-D. Wes Beebee will send more
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Suresh,

I have few minor comments on this I-D. Wes Beebee will send more
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Therefore section 5.2.7 should change statefully to DHCPv6.

Hemant

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Hi Folks,
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like some more eyeballs. Please spare some time from your busy schedule
to give it a look.

Thanks
Suresh

-------- Original Message --------
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draft-ietf-dna-protocol-06.txt

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Cheers
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Suresh

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: WGLC for draft-ietf-dna-protocol-06.txt
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Here's my review of the DNA I-D:

One global concern:=20
I'm concerned that DNA may not be applicable to all networks.  There
seems to be some=20
implicit assumptions about the networks that must be true - and these
assumptions are
not necessarily going to be true on all of the networks that DNA seems
to be targeting.
In cases where DNA cannot automatically determine that the host is in
such a network,=20
it should be possible to turn DNA off manually and resort to old-style
ND.

Specific concerns:
1) What track is this Internet Draft on - Standards?
2) I'm concerned about two major deployment scenarios, each of which is
likely to affect millions of subscribers
   off of the same aggregation router:
   a) The router offers no PIO in the RA - thus, no prefix is available.
This is currently being=20
      discussed as a possible way to prevent poorly implemented host
stacks which ignore the M and A bits=20
      in the RA from doing SLAAC and force them to do DHCPv6 or not get
online.  Unfortunately, this
      case breaks DNA as there is no prefix available to identify the
link.  The "at least one router
      on a link MUST be configured with one prefix" is a limitation of
DNA.
   b) The prefix for a neighborhood is the same for all access points in
the neighborhood.  This can happen
      if home users are off of bridge modems and they are all bridging
the same prefix (which is defined=20
      on a bundle interface of the aggregation router.  This is done to
conserve address space and simplify
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      as the same link.  Even worse, when DNA causes the node not to do
DHCPv6 again, the aggregation router
      which understands which home corresponds to which addresses,
causes source verify to reject traffic
      from the roaming laptop.  What should happen is that the node
should try to do DHCPv6 again when it roams
      even when the prefix is the same - this doesn't work in DNA.
3) The routers being able to advertise a prefix list as complete assumes
that they know about all the routers on the link.
   However, one of the routers could be silent for a while, and a router
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4) "Any future non-prefix link identifier MUST be 128 bits long." - Why?
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time?  Will there be an RS storm and will
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   I suspect that this case may be even more common than you might
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   UNICAST_RA_INTERVAL and MAX_UNICAST_RA_BURST to deal with interface
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Here's my review of the DNA I-D:

One global concern:=20
I'm concerned that DNA may not be applicable to all networks.  There
seems to be some=20
implicit assumptions about the networks that must be true - and these
assumptions are
not necessarily going to be true on all of the networks that DNA seems
to be targeting.
In cases where DNA cannot automatically determine that the host is in
such a network,=20
it should be possible to turn DNA off manually and resort to old-style
ND.

Specific concerns:
1) What track is this Internet Draft on - Standards?
2) I'm concerned about two major deployment scenarios, each of which is
likely to affect millions of subscribers
   off of the same aggregation router:
   a) The router offers no PIO in the RA - thus, no prefix is available.
This is currently being=20
      discussed as a possible way to prevent poorly implemented host
stacks which ignore the M and A bits=20
      in the RA from doing SLAAC and force them to do DHCPv6 or not get
online.  Unfortunately, this
      case breaks DNA as there is no prefix available to identify the
link.  The "at least one router
      on a link MUST be configured with one prefix" is a limitation of
DNA.
   b) The prefix for a neighborhood is the same for all access points in
the neighborhood.  This can happen
      if home users are off of bridge modems and they are all bridging
the same prefix (which is defined=20
      on a bundle interface of the aggregation router.  This is done to
conserve address space and simplify
      network configuration by MSO's.  Unfortunately, this means that
DNA will detect every AP in the neighborhood
      as the same link.  Even worse, when DNA causes the node not to do
DHCPv6 again, the aggregation router
      which understands which home corresponds to which addresses,
causes source verify to reject traffic
      from the roaming laptop.  What should happen is that the node
should try to do DHCPv6 again when it roams
      even when the prefix is the same - this doesn't work in DNA.
3) The routers being able to advertise a prefix list as complete assumes
that they know about all the routers on the link.
   However, one of the routers could be silent for a while, and a router
may assume that it knows all of the prefixes on
   the link but may be wrong.
4) "Any future non-prefix link identifier MUST be 128 bits long." - Why?
5) Are the MAX_RTR_SOLICITATIONS and RTR_SOLICITATION_INTERVAL chosen to
scale up to 100,000 hosts off of an=20
   aggregation router?  What if multiple interfaces startup at the same
time?  Will there be an RS storm and will
   the token bucket rate limiting cause RS's to be dropped as described
in the security considerations case?
   I suspect that this case may be even more common than you might
suspect...  You may have to adjust
   UNICAST_RA_INTERVAL and MAX_UNICAST_RA_BURST to deal with interface
bringups on the aggregation router.
6) "The router MUST pick the smallest prefix of all the prefixes
configured on the routers on the link as the
    common prefix."  What if there are 2 smallest prefixes?
7) "an absence of that overlap can be used to infer link change" in
5.1.8 is repeated again in 5.1.9, and 5.1.9.1 - please
   eliminate redundancy.
8) In 5.2.6.1, one of the IF statements is missing - "{ Link change has
occurred. RETURN; }" but no IF, and occurred is
   spelled wrong.
9) Why do you need to infer upstream reachability?

- Wes

-----Original Message-----
From: Hemant Singh (shemant)=20
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:40 AM
To: Suresh Krishnan; ipv6@ietf.org; netlmm@ietf.org; mobopts@ietf.org;
nemo@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Fwd: WGLC for draft-ietf-dna-protocol-06.txt]

Suresh,

I have few minor comments on this I-D. Wes Beebee will send more
detailed comments sometime later today. He has reviewed the I-D.

1. While reading the Abstract, I'd like to know what is the maximum
delay DNAv6 is ready to accept in a response from router? =20
2. Stateful has been deprecated for use. We should call it DHCPv6.
Therefore section 5.2.7 should change statefully to DHCPv6.

Hemant

-----Original Message-----
From: Suresh Krishnan [mailto:suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:29 AM
To: ipv6@ietf.org; netlmm@ietf.org; mobopts@ietf.org; nemo@ietf.org
Subject: [Fwd: WGLC for draft-ietf-dna-protocol-06.txt]

Hi Folks,
   We would like to hear your comments on this document as well. This
document is a significant update to ipv6 neighbor discovery and we would
like some more eyeballs. Please spare some time from your busy schedule
to give it a look.

Thanks
Suresh

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: WGLC for draft-ietf-dna-protocol-06.txt
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:47:24 -0400
From: Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com>
To: Dna <dna@eng.monash.edu.au>
CC: Greg Daley <Greg.Daley@eng.monash.edu.au>,  Jari Arkko
<jari.arkko@piuha.net>

This mail starts a 2 week working group Last Call for comments for the
following dna working group document

draft-ietf-dna-protocol-06.txt

to be sent to the IESG for consideration as a Standards Track RFC.

Please review the document carefully, and send your feedback to the
list. Please also indicate whether or not you believe that this document
is ready to go to the IESG.

The last call will end on 2007/07/18.

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router MUST pick the smallest prefix of all the prefixes
configured on the routers on the link as the
    common prefix."  What if there are 2 smallest prefixes?
7) "an absence of that overlap can be used to infer link change" in
5.1.8 is repeated again in 5.1.9, and 5.1.9.1 - please
   eliminate redundancy.
8) In 5.2.6.1, one of the IF statements is missing - "{ Link change has
occurred. RETURN; }" but no IF, and occurred is
   spelled wrong.
9) Why do you need to infer upstream reachability?

- Wes

-----Original Message-----
From: Hemant Singh (shemant)=20
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:40 AM
To: Suresh Krishnan; ipv6@ietf.org; netlmm@ietf.org; mobopts@ietf.org;
nemo@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Fwd: WGLC for draft-ietf-dna-protocol-06.txt]

Suresh,

I have few minor comments on this I-D. Wes Beebee will send more
detailed comments sometime later today. He has reviewed the I-D.

1. While reading the Abstract, I'd like to know what is the maximum
delay DNAv6 is ready to accept in a response from router? =20
2. Stateful has been deprecated for use. We should call it DHCPv6.
Therefore section 5.2.7 should change statefully to DHCPv6.

Hemant

-----Original Message-----
From: Suresh Krishnan [mailto:suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:29 AM
To: ipv6@ietf.org; netlmm@ietf.org; mobopts@ietf.org; nemo@ietf.org
Subject: [Fwd: WGLC for draft-ietf-dna-protocol-06.txt]

Hi Folks,
   We would like to hear your comments on this document as well. This
document is a significant update to ipv6 neighbor discovery and we would
like some more eyeballs. Please spare some time from your busy schedule
to give it a look.

Thanks
Suresh

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: WGLC for draft-ietf-dna-protocol-06.txt
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:47:24 -0400
From: Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com>
To: Dna <dna@eng.monash.edu.au>
CC: Greg Daley <Greg.Daley@eng.monash.edu.au>,  Jari Arkko
<jari.arkko@piuha.net>

This mail starts a 2 week working group Last Call for comments for the
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Please review the document carefully, and send your feedback to the
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TJ I've made some comments on March 14th, acknowledged by first author, 
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The diff between the draft I reviewed and the draft-03 is at:
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Hi Alex,
 

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Subject: [nemo] Re:Comments on draft-ietf-nemo-mib-02.txt

Hi Sri, I have some comments on the NEMO-MIB draft, a WG item.

Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote:
  > 	Title		: NEMO Management Information Base
> 	Author(s)	: S. Gundavelli, et al.
> 	Filename	: draft-ietf-nemo-mib-02.txt
> 	Pages		: 34
> 	Date		: 2006-10-25
> 	
> This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB),
>    the network mobility support (NEMO) MIB, for use with network
>    management protocols in the Internet community.  In particular, the
>    NEMO MIB will be used to monitor and control a mobile ipv6 node with
>    NEMO functionality.
> 
> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-nemo-mib-02.txt


>        nemoActiveRoamingIfIndex OBJECT-TYPE
>              SYNTAX      InterfaceIndex
>              MAX-ACCESS  read-only
>              STATUS      current
>              DESCRIPTION
>                      "The interface index of the current active
>                       roaming interface.
>                      "
>              REFERENCE
>                  "RFC3963 : Section 5.5"
>              ::= { nemoSystem 14 }

Can we call it "egress" interface, instead of "roaming" interface, 
because rfc3963 nemov6 and NEMOv4 draft in MIP4 WG both call it "egress" 
interface.


[Sri] Ok.




>         nemoDynamicHADiscovery  OBJECT-TYPE
>              SYNTAX      TruthValue
>              MAX-ACCESS  read-write
>              STATUS      current
>              DESCRIPTION
>                      "This object indicates whether or not the mobile
>                       router should attempt to make dynamic home agent
>                       address discovery(DHAAD).
>                      "
>              ::= { nemoRegistration 5 }

Can we have a related OBJECT-TYPE that flags the use of DHAAD upon each 
handover.  I mean, a flag value would enforce performing DHAAD upon each 
new CoA obtention, another flag value would enforce perfoming DHAAD now 
only (not upon each handover time).  Is this something feasible?  Or 
needed at all?  I need such kind of conditioning of the DHAAD behaviour 
in my implementation.


[Sri] Possible. Too many knobs. But, we can do that.


>        nemoHomeNetworkPrefixTable   OBJECT-TYPE
>              SYNTAX      SEQUENCE OF NemoHomeNetworkPrefixEntry
>              MAX-ACCESS  not-accessible
>              STATUS      current
>              DESCRIPTION
>                      "A table representing the potential home networks
>                       that the mobile router can use
>                      "
>              ::= { nemoRegistration 12 }

Who would use this table and where?  On MR?  Who fills it?  DHCP?



[Sri] Plan to remove it. Its a feature, but we decided to remove this.





>         nemoPrefixTable   OBJECT-TYPE
>              SYNTAX      SEQUENCE OF NemoPrefixEntry
>              MAX-ACCESS  not-accessible
>              STATUS      current
>              DESCRIPTION
>                      "A table representing the NEMO prefixes.
>                      "
>              ::= { nemoConfiguration 2 }

I think this table should also contain the Home Address for each Home 
Network Prefix, no?  All MIB entries for the Prefix Table don't seem to 
include the HoA, am I right.


[Sri] Why should the HoA be prefix specific. The MIB is on the MR
and so there is only one HoA, per-3963.



>          nemoOpNotSupported  OBJECT-TYPE
>              SYNTAX      Counter32
>              MAX-ACCESS  read-only
>              STATUS      current
>              DESCRIPTION
>                      "The total number of Binding Update requests
>                       rejected by the home agent with status code in the
>                       Binding Acknowledgement indicating
>                       'Mobile Router Operation not permitted'
>                       (Code 140).

Can we call this nemoOpNotPermitted instead of notSupported, to reflect 
the IANA number name better.

[Sri] Ok.



>    [RFC3775] Johnson, D., Perkins, C. and Arkko J., Mobility Support in
>    IPv6q RFC 3775, June 2004.

Typo q.



[Sri] Sure. Will fix it.




Finally, what would you think about doing same kind of document but for 
MIP4 WG (who does NEMOv4).  This MIB-NEMOv6 has several IPv6-related 
text that could be changed for IPv4 relatively easily (I think?).

[Sri] There is a 2206bis ...may be it can go there. You should talk to those
authors.


Thanks for the review.

Sri


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Here's my review of the DNA I-D:

One global concern:=20
I'm concerned that DNA may not be applicable to all networks.  There
seems to be some=20
implicit assumptions about the networks that must be true - and these
assumptions are
not necessarily going to be true on all of the networks that DNA seems
to be targeting.
In cases where DNA cannot automatically determine that the host is in
such a network,=20
it should be possible to turn DNA off manually and resort to old-style
ND.

Specific concerns:
1) What track is this Internet Draft on - Standards?
2) I'm concerned about two major deployment scenarios, each of which is
likely to affect millions of subscribers
   off of the same aggregation router:
   a) The router offers no PIO in the RA - thus, no prefix is available.
This is currently being=20
      discussed as a possible way to prevent poorly implemented host
stacks which ignore the M and A bits=20
      in the RA from doing SLAAC and force them to do DHCPv6 or not get
online.  Unfortunately, this
      case breaks DNA as there is no prefix available to identify the
link.  The "at least one router
      on a link MUST be configured with one prefix" is a limitation of
DNA.
   b) The prefix for a neighborhood is the same for all access points in
the neighborhood.  This can happen
      if home users are off of bridge modems and they are all bridging
the same prefix (which is defined=20
      on a bundle interface of the aggregation router.  This is done to
conserve address space and simplify
      network configuration by MSO's.  Unfortunately, this means that
DNA will detect every AP in the neighborhood
      as the same link.  Even worse, when DNA causes the node not to do
DHCPv6 again, the aggregation router
      which understands which home corresponds to which addresses,
causes source verify to reject traffic
      from the roaming laptop.  What should happen is that the node
should try to do DHCPv6 again when it roams
      even when the prefix is the same - this doesn't work in DNA.
3) The routers being able to advertise a prefix list as complete assumes
that they know about all the routers on the link.
   However, one of the routers could be silent for a while, and a router
may assume that it knows all of the prefixes on
   the link but may be wrong.
4) "Any future non-prefix link identifier MUST be 128 bits long." - Why?
5) Are the MAX_RTR_SOLICITATIONS and RTR_SOLICITATION_INTERVAL chosen to
scale up to 100,000 hosts off of an=20
   aggregation router?  What if multiple interfaces startup at the same
time?  Will there be an RS storm and will
   the token bucket rate limiting cause RS's to be dropped as described
in the security considerations case?
   I suspect that this case may be even more common than you might
suspect...  You may have to adjust
   UNICAST_RA_INTERVAL and MAX_UNICAST_RA_BURST to deal with interface
bringups on the aggregation router.
6) "The router MUST pick the smallest prefix of all the prefixes
configured on the routers on the link as the
    common prefix."  What if there are 2 smallest prefixes?
7) "an absence of that overlap can be used to infer link change" in
5.1.8 is repeated again in 5.1.9, and 5.1.9.1 - please
   eliminate redundancy.
8) In 5.2.6.1, one of the IF statements is missing - "{ Link change has
occurred. RETURN; }" but no IF, and occurred is
   spelled wrong.
9) Why do you need to infer upstream reachability?

- Wes

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Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:40 AM
To: Suresh Krishnan; ipv6@ietf.org; netlmm@ietf.org; mobopts@ietf.org;
nemo@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Fwd: WGLC for draft-ietf-dna-protocol-06.txt]

Suresh,

I have few minor comments on this I-D. Wes Beebee will send more
detailed comments sometime later today. He has reviewed the I-D.

1. While reading the Abstract, I'd like to know what is the maximum
delay DNAv6 is ready to accept in a response from router? =20
2. Stateful has been deprecated for use. We should call it DHCPv6.
Therefore section 5.2.7 should change statefully to DHCPv6.

Hemant

-----Original Message-----
From: Suresh Krishnan [mailto:suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:29 AM
To: ipv6@ietf.org; netlmm@ietf.org; mobopts@ietf.org; nemo@ietf.org
Subject: [Fwd: WGLC for draft-ietf-dna-protocol-06.txt]

Hi Folks,
   We would like to hear your comments on this document as well. This
document is a significant update to ipv6 neighbor discovery and we would
like some more eyeballs. Please spare some time from your busy schedule
to give it a look.

Thanks
Suresh

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: WGLC for draft-ietf-dna-protocol-06.txt
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:47:24 -0400
From: Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com>
To: Dna <dna@eng.monash.edu.au>
CC: Greg Daley <Greg.Daley@eng.monash.edu.au>,  Jari Arkko
<jari.arkko@piuha.net>

This mail starts a 2 week working group Last Call for comments for the
following dna working group document

draft-ietf-dna-protocol-06.txt

to be sent to the IESG for consideration as a Standards Track RFC.

Please review the document carefully, and send your feedback to the
list. Please also indicate whether or not you believe that this document
is ready to go to the IESG.

The last call will end on 2007/07/18.

Cheers
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Suresh,

I have few minor comments on this I-D. Wes Beebee will send more
detailed comments sometime later today. He has reviewed the I-D.

1. While reading the Abstract, I'd like to know what is the maximum
delay DNAv6 is ready to accept in a response from router? =20
2. Stateful has been deprecated for use. We should call it DHCPv6.
Therefore section 5.2.7 should change statefully to DHCPv6.

Hemant

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [Fwd: WGLC for draft-ietf-dna-protocol-06.txt]

Hi Folks,
   We would like to hear your comments on this document as well. This
document is a significant update to ipv6 neighbor discovery and we would
like some more eyeballs. Please spare some time from your busy schedule
to give it a look.

Thanks
Suresh

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: WGLC for draft-ietf-dna-protocol-06.txt
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:47:24 -0400
From: Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com>
To: Dna <dna@eng.monash.edu.au>
CC: Greg Daley <Greg.Daley@eng.monash.edu.au>,  Jari Arkko
<jari.arkko@piuha.net>

This mail starts a 2 week working group Last Call for comments for the
following dna working group document

draft-ietf-dna-protocol-06.txt

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-----Original Message-----
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Folks, 

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Hi Alex,

So in order to avoid everyone digging into the archives, what are the 
comments you gave which have not been considered ? Then, next question I 
will ask to MIB authors is why they haven't considered these ?

Thierry.


Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
> T.J. Kniveton wrote:
>> It's been over a month with no comments received yet. Last chance for 
>> making comments on the MIB.
> 
> TJ I've made some comments on March 14th, acknowledged by first author, 
> but not all reflected in the current draft... :-(
> 
> The diff between the draft I reviewed and the draft-03 is at:
> https://www3.tools.ietf.org/wg/nemo/draft-ietf-nemo-mib/draft-ietf-nemo-mib-03-from-02.wdiff.html 
> 
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
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> RE: [nemo] Re:Comments on draft-ietf-nemo-mib-02.txt
> From:
> "Sri Gundavelli"<sgundave@cisco.com>
> Date:
> Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:42:24 -0700
> To:
> "'Alexandru Petrescu'"<alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com>, <nemo@ietf.org>
> 
> To:
> "'Alexandru Petrescu'"<alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com>, <nemo@ietf.org>
> 
> 
> Hi Alex,
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexandru Petrescu [mailto:alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 6:57 AM
> To: nemo@ietf.org
> Subject: [nemo] Re:Comments on draft-ietf-nemo-mib-02.txt
> 
> Hi Sri, I have some comments on the NEMO-MIB draft, a WG item.
> 
> Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>   > 	Title		: NEMO Management Information Base
>> 	Author(s)	: S. Gundavelli, et al.
>> 	Filename	: draft-ietf-nemo-mib-02.txt
>> 	Pages		: 34
>> 	Date		: 2006-10-25
>> 	
>> This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB),
>>    the network mobility support (NEMO) MIB, for use with network
>>    management protocols in the Internet community.  In particular, the
>>    NEMO MIB will be used to monitor and control a mobile ipv6 node with
>>    NEMO functionality.
>>
>> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-nemo-mib-02.txt
> 
> 
>>        nemoActiveRoamingIfIndex OBJECT-TYPE
>>              SYNTAX      InterfaceIndex
>>              MAX-ACCESS  read-only
>>              STATUS      current
>>              DESCRIPTION
>>                      "The interface index of the current active
>>                       roaming interface.
>>                      "
>>              REFERENCE
>>                  "RFC3963 : Section 5.5"
>>              ::= { nemoSystem 14 }
> 
> Can we call it "egress" interface, instead of "roaming" interface, 
> because rfc3963 nemov6 and NEMOv4 draft in MIP4 WG both call it "egress" 
> interface.
> 
> 
> [Sri] Ok.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>         nemoDynamicHADiscovery  OBJECT-TYPE
>>              SYNTAX      TruthValue
>>              MAX-ACCESS  read-write
>>              STATUS      current
>>              DESCRIPTION
>>                      "This object indicates whether or not the mobile
>>                       router should attempt to make dynamic home agent
>>                       address discovery(DHAAD).
>>                      "
>>              ::= { nemoRegistration 5 }
> 
> Can we have a related OBJECT-TYPE that flags the use of DHAAD upon each 
> handover.  I mean, a flag value would enforce performing DHAAD upon each 
> new CoA obtention, another flag value would enforce perfoming DHAAD now 
> only (not upon each handover time).  Is this something feasible?  Or 
> needed at all?  I need such kind of conditioning of the DHAAD behaviour 
> in my implementation.
> 
> 
> [Sri] Possible. Too many knobs. But, we can do that.
> 
> 
>>        nemoHomeNetworkPrefixTable   OBJECT-TYPE
>>              SYNTAX      SEQUENCE OF NemoHomeNetworkPrefixEntry
>>              MAX-ACCESS  not-accessible
>>              STATUS      current
>>              DESCRIPTION
>>                      "A table representing the potential home networks
>>                       that the mobile router can use
>>                      "
>>              ::= { nemoRegistration 12 }
> 
> Who would use this table and where?  On MR?  Who fills it?  DHCP?
> 
> 
> 
> [Sri] Plan to remove it. Its a feature, but we decided to remove this.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>         nemoPrefixTable   OBJECT-TYPE
>>              SYNTAX      SEQUENCE OF NemoPrefixEntry
>>              MAX-ACCESS  not-accessible
>>              STATUS      current
>>              DESCRIPTION
>>                      "A table representing the NEMO prefixes.
>>                      "
>>              ::= { nemoConfiguration 2 }
> 
> I think this table should also contain the Home Address for each Home 
> Network Prefix, no?  All MIB entries for the Prefix Table don't seem to 
> include the HoA, am I right.
> 
> 
> [Sri] Why should the HoA be prefix specific. The MIB is on the MR
> and so there is only one HoA, per-3963.
> 
> 
> 
>>          nemoOpNotSupported  OBJECT-TYPE
>>              SYNTAX      Counter32
>>              MAX-ACCESS  read-only
>>              STATUS      current
>>              DESCRIPTION
>>                      "The total number of Binding Update requests
>>                       rejected by the home agent with status code in the
>>                       Binding Acknowledgement indicating
>>                       'Mobile Router Operation not permitted'
>>                       (Code 140).
> 
> Can we call this nemoOpNotPermitted instead of notSupported, to reflect 
> the IANA number name better.
> 
> [Sri] Ok.
> 
> 
> 
>>    [RFC3775] Johnson, D., Perkins, C. and Arkko J., Mobility Support in
>>    IPv6q RFC 3775, June 2004.
> 
> Typo q.
> 
> 
> 
> [Sri] Sure. Will fix it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Finally, what would you think about doing same kind of document but for 
> MIP4 WG (who does NEMOv4).  This MIB-NEMOv6 has several IPv6-related 
> text that could be changed for IPv4 relatively easily (I think?).
> 
> [Sri] There is a 2206bis ...may be it can go there. You should talk to those
> authors.
> 
> 
> Thanks for the review.
> 
> Sri
> 


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Hi Thierry,

Glen did the edit for this revision. Alex had suggested
some new knobs/objects. But, the general thought was to
keep the objects low, as there were too many objects
and so could not be added. The base MIB structure is
to stay close to 3963 and the suggested objects that are
not directly specified as config settings in that draft
were added at discretion.

Sri 

> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> Hi Alex,
> 
> So in order to avoid everyone digging into the archives, what are the 
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Thierry Ernst wrote:
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> Hi Alex,
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Right... sorry, it was attached to that mail.  In short:

-call it "egress" instead of "roaming" interface, as per terminology in
  rfc3963 and nemov4 draft.
-agreed to remove the nemoHomeNetworkPrefixTable
-call it nemoOpNotPermitted instead of NotSupported, as per rfc
  terminology.
-typo 'q' in 'IPv6q".

And yes, I've suggested a new knob for triggering DHAAD upon each
handover, Sri said too many knobs, and then I said ok, I can do it
locally configured.

But I've also suggested that the nemoPrefixTable should contain a Home
Address for each prefix, and Sri said there's only one HoA for each MR.
  A thing to which I disagree completely.

Alex


> Then, next question I will ask to MIB authors is why they haven't
> considered these ?
> 
> Thierry.
> 
> 
> Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
>> T.J. Kniveton wrote:
>>> It's been over a month with no comments received yet. Last chance
>>> for making comments on the MIB.
>> 
>> TJ I've made some comments on March 14th, acknowledged by first 
>> author, but not all reflected in the current draft... :-(
>> 
>> The diff between the draft I reviewed and the draft-03 is at: 
>> https://www3.tools.ietf.org/wg/nemo/draft-ietf-nemo-mib/draft-ietf-nemo-mib-03-from-02.wdiff.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Alex
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Subject: RE: [nemo] Re:Comments on draft-ietf-nemo-mib-02.txt From:
>>  "Sri Gundavelli"<sgundave@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007
>> 23:42:24 -0700 To: "'Alexandru
>> Petrescu'"<alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com>, <nemo@ietf.org>
>> 
>> To: "'Alexandru Petrescu'"<alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com>,
>> <nemo@ietf.org>
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Alex,
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Alexandru Petrescu
>> [mailto:alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14,
>> 2007 6:57 AM To: nemo@ietf.org Subject: [nemo] Re:Comments on
>> draft-ietf-nemo-mib-02.txt
>> 
>> Hi Sri, I have some comments on the NEMO-MIB draft, a WG item.
>> 
>> Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>>> Title        : NEMO Management Information Base Author(s)    : S.
>>> Gundavelli, et al. Filename    : draft-ietf-nemo-mib-02.txt Pages
>>> : 34 Date        : 2006-10-25
>>> 
>>> This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base
>>> (MIB), the network mobility support (NEMO) MIB, for use with
>>> network management protocols in the Internet community.  In
>>> particular, the NEMO MIB will be used to monitor and control a
>>> mobile ipv6 node with NEMO functionality.
>>> 
>>> A URL for this Internet-Draft is: 
>>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-nemo-mib-02.txt
>> 
>> 
>>> nemoActiveRoamingIfIndex OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX      InterfaceIndex 
>>> MAX-ACCESS  read-only STATUS      current DESCRIPTION "The
>>> interface index of the current active roaming interface. " 
>>> REFERENCE "RFC3963 : Section 5.5" ::= { nemoSystem 14 }
>> 
>> Can we call it "egress" interface, instead of "roaming" interface,
>>  because rfc3963 nemov6 and NEMOv4 draft in MIP4 WG both call it 
>> "egress" interface.
>> 
>> 
>> [Sri] Ok.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> nemoDynamicHADiscovery  OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX      TruthValue 
>>> MAX-ACCESS  read-write STATUS      current DESCRIPTION "This
>>> object indicates whether or not the mobile router should attempt
>>> to make dynamic home agent address discovery(DHAAD). " ::= {
>>> nemoRegistration 5 }
>> 
>> Can we have a related OBJECT-TYPE that flags the use of DHAAD upon
>>  each handover.  I mean, a flag value would enforce performing
>> DHAAD upon each new CoA obtention, another flag value would enforce
>>  perfoming DHAAD now only (not upon each handover time).  Is this 
>> something feasible?  Or needed at all?  I need such kind of 
>> conditioning of the DHAAD behaviour in my implementation.
>> 
>> 
>> [Sri] Possible. Too many knobs. But, we can do that.
>> 
>> 
>>> nemoHomeNetworkPrefixTable   OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX      SEQUENCE OF
>>> NemoHomeNetworkPrefixEntry MAX-ACCESS  not-accessible STATUS
>>> current DESCRIPTION "A table representing the potential home
>>> networks that the mobile router can use " ::= { nemoRegistration
>>> 12 }
>> 
>> Who would use this table and where?  On MR?  Who fills it?  DHCP?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [Sri] Plan to remove it. Its a feature, but we decided to remove
>> this.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> nemoPrefixTable   OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX      SEQUENCE OF
>>> NemoPrefixEntry MAX-ACCESS  not-accessible STATUS      current 
>>> DESCRIPTION "A table representing the NEMO prefixes. " ::= {
>>> nemoConfiguration 2 }
>> 
>> I think this table should also contain the Home Address for each
>> Home Network Prefix, no?  All MIB entries for the Prefix Table
>> don't seem to include the HoA, am I right.
>> 
>> 
>> [Sri] Why should the HoA be prefix specific. The MIB is on the MR 
>> and so there is only one HoA, per-3963.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> nemoOpNotSupported  OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX      Counter32 MAX-ACCESS
>>> read-only STATUS      current DESCRIPTION "The total number of
>>> Binding Update requests rejected by the home agent with status
>>> code in the Binding Acknowledgement indicating 'Mobile Router
>>> Operation not permitted' (Code 140).
>> 
>> Can we call this nemoOpNotPermitted instead of notSupported, to 
>> reflect the IANA number name better.
>> 
>> [Sri] Ok.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> [RFC3775] Johnson, D., Perkins, C. and Arkko J., Mobility Support
>>> in IPv6q RFC 3775, June 2004.
>> 
>> Typo q.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [Sri] Sure. Will fix it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Finally, what would you think about doing same kind of document but
>>  for MIP4 WG (who does NEMOv4).  This MIB-NEMOv6 has several 
>> IPv6-related text that could be changed for IPv4 relatively easily
>> (I think?).
>> 
>> [Sri] There is a 2206bis ...may be it can go there. You should talk
>> to those authors.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for the review.
>> 
>> Sri
>> 
> 


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