From nobody Tue Oct 9 12:47:40 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netslices@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: netslices@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B662130DC2 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 12:47:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j7D7HwjcGUTZ for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 12:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yb1-xb31.google.com (mail-yb1-xb31.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BBC512F295 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2018 12:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-xb31.google.com with SMTP id e16-v6so1185877ybk.8 for ; Tue, 09 Oct 2018 12:47:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=0IkQ8JvOaWWLoEZoOiWL2Et6pwSDboLFinb5794Zahc=; b=l9cwHTyiL2e7PXSkLVRQyrdKFFoxe5EeENaZc4/+ecHPY6T/DnVGrolbgNv/95LUMu 098wK3MB/6lJmdVTk3pfp3cU28nLU0jgDVVF8FYDn156N22whDNlS8xaiB9+abXYKdw9 BLCC5xGv1ViYM1WZa+ZXsEiI5NVaOUTXMBm0q1vLPQlrltMqtGhRK2EzCSJ/OjVOwAFq LEc6OLkJaRxffrGPAqI4sp/L3VCoUHoBZbHnsnCGGO5PKuqkN5wO2CJvU4UZo6nwCh4c ks1spNiPMRer/0qF1gFmmbUyeP+9dH/Ug41aSHT4agg4lA8hE2RyvUZemrnhA3R5jpPj nWkg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0IkQ8JvOaWWLoEZoOiWL2Et6pwSDboLFinb5794Zahc=; b=F+ZGmOp6ljftQiV7V5oBmlhti12cUhBe5QxNY7smvP2JD7GFrljOz/lMCpsyFls5Sa RYnSvv2gLp7BnYDcW0Yjuv8QEBv9V2R+Nz7LprdlO/oXGLd3BpbMNoZc10OFwIVCi+ZS P/uZRLjlol55K5x1FG2vDI0kLvZojMkjSsBJmCGnxs1IL6vockBS/GUELZ5n37by/J9R f8YmzJ/zJM42BRN4XU0bMo5abmPEvlMLitgHD0rtUtMmJrBS1b1JLXyl5caGA4Ryig5U roCERx4fpknFmDm83iyZsygMs/GUk3RKzjdaQy0AhgXE+QufQ+jH2I6Uef9n+/R2NvjB iVEQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfogoNGuV8ZtkR9zcLb80HFAxM3VT6dhFGzljldiirFoFFda9xNO7 RbxVjHwhw51GvQtHXUQcD5PzrHztd26Y49iHrf0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV620RU+Z9BZszfxQ+T3a9HS0kVLLqacGFl29Xx3eWwbtnoGMeErVOzVhpHdXliYN8xSm6YbZkKkroDzI1zWdRmE= X-Received: by 2002:a25:af10:: with SMTP id a16-v6mr11974375ybh.292.1539114455357; Tue, 09 Oct 2018 12:47:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3527981E-3C03-4520-B107-771BE2801628@ucl.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 14:47:23 -0500 Message-ID: To: a.galis@ucl.ac.uk Cc: netslices@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000615dd10577d10280" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Netslices] Fwd: Network Slicing and its Management work @ IETF102--> short meeting on Thursday 19th July at 19:15 / meeting point : in front of the registration desk X-BeenThere: netslices@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is intended for discussion and review of network slicing at IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2018 19:47:38 -0000 --000000000000615dd10577d10280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I'm sorry for not noticing to ask sooner, but On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:09 PM Alex Galis wrote: > Hi All > > Re: Thursday 19th July at 19:15 - short meeting on the NS next steps > > This is a kind reminder. You are invited to a short meeting /discussion > on the NS next steps (i.e. including preparation of a BoF for IETF103) on > Thursday 19th July at 19:15 - meeting point : in front of the registration > desk > I know there wasn't a BOF requested for IETF 103, but are there next steps as a result of the side meeting? Thanks, Spencer --000000000000615dd10577d10280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm sorry for not noticing to ask sooner, but=C2=A0
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:09 P= M Alex Galis <a.galis@ucl.ac.uk= > wrote:
Hi All

Re:=C2= =A0Thursday 19th July at 19:15 - short meeting on the NS next steps

This is a kind reminder.=C2=A0You are invite= d to a=C2=A0short meeting /discussion on the NS next steps=C2=A0(i.e. including preparation of a BoF for IETF103) =C2=A0on Thursday= 19th July at 19:15 - meeting point : in front of the registration desk

I know there wasn't a B= OF requested for IETF 103, but are there next steps as a result of the side= meeting?

Thanks,

Spencer= =C2=A0
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Please also take into account the NS problems requiring standardised = solutions and the gaps in SDOs (i.e. NGMN, ONF, ETSI, ITU-T, 3GPP, BBF, = IETF) exiting work on NS as presented recently as a tutorial on NS at = IEEE Network Softwarization 2018 - http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/10051374/ = Best Regards Alex > On 9 Oct 2018, at 20:47, Spencer Dawkins at IETF = wrote: >=20 > I'm sorry for not noticing to ask sooner, but=20 > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:09 PM Alex Galis > wrote: > Hi All >=20 > Re: Thursday 19th July at 19:15 - short meeting on the NS next steps >=20 > This is a kind reminder. You are invited to a short meeting = /discussion on the NS next steps (i.e. including preparation of a BoF = for IETF103) on Thursday 19th July at 19:15 - meeting point : in front = of the registration desk >=20 > I know there wasn't a BOF requested for IETF 103, but are there next = steps as a result of the side meeting? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Spencer=20 --Apple-Mail=_E4FBB54B-59A4-412A-8049-0BD17AE4374D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi = Spencer

Thank you = for your inquiries 

Based on the current system context at IETF the practical way = forward is to continue systematically the Net Slicing (NS) work as part = of Network Management RG at IRTF.

Please also take into account the NS problems = requiring standardised solutions  and the gaps in SDOs (i.e. NGMN, = ONF, ETSI, ITU-T, 3GPP, BBF, IETF)  exiting work on NS as presented = recently as a tutorial on NS at IEEE Network Softwarization 2018 = - http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/10051374/

Best Regards
Alex

On 9 Oct = 2018, at 20:47, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> = wrote:

I'm sorry for not noticing to ask sooner, but 
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at = 1:09 PM Alex Galis <a.galis@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
Hi All

Re: Thursday 19th July at 19:15 - short = meeting on the NS next steps

This is a kind = reminder. You are invited to a short meeting = /discussion on the NS next steps (i.e. including preparation = of a BoF for IETF103)  on Thursday 19th July at = 19:15 - meeting point : in front of the registration = desk

I know there wasn't a BOF = requested for IETF 103, but are there next steps as a result of the side = meeting?

Thanks,

Spencer 

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:57:16 -0000 --000000000000fea95d0577de8df3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, All, On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 3:22 AM Alex Galis wrote: > Hi Spencer > > Thank you for your inquiries > > Based on the current system context at IETF the practical way forward is > to continue systematically the Net Slicing (NS) work as part of Network > Management RG at IRTF. > > Please also take into account the NS problems requiring standardised > solutions and the gaps in SDOs (i.e. NGMN, ONF, ETSI, ITU-T, 3GPP, BBF, > IETF) exiting work on NS as presented recently as a tutorial on NS at IEEE > Network Softwarization 2018 - http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/10051374/ > Thanks for the feedback. Spencer > Best Regards > Alex > > On 9 Oct 2018, at 20:47, Spencer Dawkins at IETF < > spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm sorry for not noticing to ask sooner, but > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:09 PM Alex Galis wrote: > >> Hi All >> >> Re: Thursday 19th July at 19:15 - short meeting on the NS next steps >> >> This is a kind reminder. You are invited to a short meeting /discussion >> on the NS next steps (i.e. including preparation of a BoF for IETF103) on >> Thursday 19th July at 19:15 - meeting point : in front of the registration >> desk >> > > I know there wasn't a BOF requested for IETF 103, but are there next steps > as a result of the side meeting? > > Thanks, > > Spencer > > > > --000000000000fea95d0577de8df3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, All,
On= Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 3:22 AM Alex Galis <a.galis@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
Hi Sp= encer

Thank you for your inquiries=C2=A0

<= /div>
Based on the current system context at IETF the practical way for= ward is to continue systematically the Net Slicing (NS) work as part of Net= work Management RG at IRTF.

Please also take = into account the NS problems requiring standardised solutions =C2=A0and the= gaps in SDOs (i.e. NGMN, ONF, ETSI, ITU-T, 3GPP, BBF, IETF) =C2=A0exiting = work on NS as presented recently as a tutorial on NS at IEEE Network Softwa= rization 2018 -=C2=A0http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/= 10051374/

Than= ks for the feedback.

Spencer
=C2=A0
Best Regards<= /span>
Alex

On 9 Oct 2018, at 20:47, Spencer Da= wkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm sorry for= not noticing to ask sooner, but=C2=A0
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:09 PM A= lex Galis <a.gali= s@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
<= div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Hi All

Re:=C2=A0Thursday 19th July at 19:15 - shor= t meeting on the NS next steps

This is a kind reminder.= =C2=A0You are invited to a=C2=A0short meeting /discussion on the NS n= ext steps=C2=A0(i.e. including preparation of a BoF for IETF103) =C2= =A0on Thursday 19th July at 19:15 - meeting point : in front of the r= egistration desk

I know there wasn= 9;t a BOF requested for IETF 103, but are there next steps as a result of t= he side meeting?

=
Thanks,

Spencer=C2=A0
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X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2018 19:35:30.1743 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: fa1db0f5-fb04-4c96-a1ee-08d62ee789d3 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: 1faf88fe-a998-4c5b-93c9-210a11d9a5c2 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: VI1PR0102MB3424 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Netslices] Network Slicing and its Management work @ IETF102--> short meeting on Thursday 19th July at 19:15 / meeting point : in front of the registration desk X-BeenThere: netslices@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is intended for discussion and review of network slicing at IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 19:35:36 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_5646DB88-3B34-4970-AAED-173BE05EC471 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Laurent Thank you for your clarification. As I understand it any NS management work in NMRG would not involve or = require a change in the RG scope (i.e. "I think that in Lisandro=E2=80=99s= message sent in our two names, we recognise network slice management as = a timely and interesting topic worth being presented to NMRG and not out = of scope=E2=80=9D - Laurent Ciavalia=E2=80=99s message of 24t May 2018.) In order to move forward I planed for an information draft (submitted to = NMRG) with a list of research challenges in NS management in line with = my presentation at the IRTF102/NMRG. Best Regards Alex > On 10 Oct 2018, at 15:17, Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) = wrote: >=20 > Hello, > =20 > =46rom NMRG viewpoint: two presentations on NS were made at IETF 102. = One of the conclusions of the discussion was that the research = challenges exposed were not sufficiently clear or scoped. (Meeting = minutes have not been uploaded yet. Thought I did it in July but = apparently not.) > =20 > It remains to be discussed and clarified if/how the NS work = would/could be part of NMRG activities. Currently, NS is not = =E2=80=9Cendorsed=E2=80=9D by the RG (if this means anything =F0=9F=98=89)= . > =20 > Best regards, Laurent (as feeling-alone-NMRG-co-chair). > =20 > =20 > From: Netslices > On Behalf Of Spencer Dawkins at = IETF > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 13:57 > To: Alex Galis > > Cc: netslices@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Netslices] Fwd: Network Slicing and its Management work = @ IETF102--> short meeting on Thursday 19th July at 19:15 / meeting = point : in front of the registration desk > =20 > Hi, All, > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 3:22 AM Alex Galis > wrote: > Hi Spencer > =20 > Thank you for your inquiries=20 > =20 > Based on the current system context at IETF the practical way forward = is to continue systematically the Net Slicing (NS) work as part of = Network Management RG at IRTF. > =20 > Please also take into account the NS problems requiring standardised = solutions and the gaps in SDOs (i.e. NGMN, ONF, ETSI, ITU-T, 3GPP, BBF, = IETF) exiting work on NS as presented recently as a tutorial on NS at = IEEE Network Softwarization 2018 - http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/10051374/ = > =20 > Thanks for the feedback. > =20 > Spencer > =20 > Best Regards > Alex > =20 > On 9 Oct 2018, at 20:47, Spencer Dawkins at IETF = > = wrote: > =20 > I'm sorry for not noticing to ask sooner, but=20 > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:09 PM Alex Galis > wrote: > Hi All > =20 > Re: Thursday 19th July at 19:15 - short meeting on the NS next steps > =20 > This is a kind reminder. You are invited to a short meeting = /discussion on the NS next steps (i.e. including preparation of a BoF = for IETF103) on Thursday 19th July at 19:15 - meeting point : in front = of the registration desk > =20 > I know there wasn't a BOF requested for IETF 103, but are there next = steps as a result of the side meeting? > =20 > Thanks, > =20 > Spencer=20 --Apple-Mail=_5646DB88-3B34-4970-AAED-173BE05EC471 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi = Laurent

Thank you = for your clarification.

As I understand it any NS management work = in NMRG would not involve or require a change in the RG = scope (i.e. "I think that in Lisandro=E2=80=99s message sent in our two names, = we recognise network slice management as a timely and = interesting topic worth being presented to NMRG and not out of = scope=E2=80=9D - Laurent Ciavalia=E2=80=99s message of 24t May = 2018.)

In order to = move forward I planed for an information draft (submitted to NMRG) = with a list of research challenges in NS management  in line with = my presentation at the IRTF102/NMRG.

Best Regards
Alex
On 10 = Oct 2018, at 15:17, Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) <laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com> wrote:

Hello,
 
=46rom = NMRG viewpoint: two presentations on NS were made at IETF 102. One of = the conclusions of the discussion was that the research challenges = exposed were not sufficiently clear or scoped. (Meeting minutes have not = been uploaded yet. Thought I did it in July but apparently not.)
 
It = remains to be discussed and clarified if/how the NS work would/could be = part of NMRG activities. Currently, NS is not =E2=80=9Cendorsed=E2=80=9D = by the RG (if this means anything =F0=9F=98=89).
 
Best = regards, Laurent (as feeling-alone-NMRG-co-chair).
 
 
From: Netslices <netslices-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf = Of Spencer Dawkins = at IETF
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 = 13:57
To: Alex Galis <a.galis@ucl.ac.uk>
Cc: netslices@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Netslices] Fwd: = Network Slicing and its Management work @ IETF102--> short meeting on = Thursday 19th July at 19:15 / meeting point : in front of the = registration desk
 
Hi, All,
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 3:22 AM Alex Galis <a.galis@ucl.ac.uk> = wrote:
Hi Spencer
 
Thank you for your inquiries 
 
Based on the = current system context at IETF the practical way forward is to continue = systematically the Net Slicing (NS) work as part of Network Management = RG at IRTF.
 
Please also take into account the NS problems = requiring standardised solutions  and the gaps in SDOs (i.e. NGMN, = ONF, ETSI, ITU-T, 3GPP, BBF, IETF)  exiting work on NS as presented = recently as a tutorial on NS at IEEE Network Softwarization 2018 = - http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/10051374/
 
Thanks for the feedback.
 
Spencer
 
Best = Regards
Alex
 
On 9 Oct 2018, at 20:47, Spencer = Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
 
I'm sorry for not noticing to ask sooner, = but 
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:09 PM Alex Galis <a.galis@ucl.ac.uk> = wrote:
Hi= All
 
Re: Thursday 19th = July at 19:15 - short meeting on the NS next steps
 
This is a kind reminder. You are invited to a short = meeting /discussion on the NS next steps (i.e. including = preparation of a BoF for IETF103)  on Thursday 19th July at 19:15 - = meeting point : in front of the registration desk
 
I know there wasn't a BOF = requested for IETF 103, but are there next steps as a result of the side = meeting?
 
Thanks,
 
Spencer 
=
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