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List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 05:54:21 -0000 --001a1143ff7021ff7f05291caf2f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Dear all first of all let me wish you a healthy, happy and prosperous 2016. In line, below, marked with [*PD*], are my responses to the discussions points below. Best regards Panagiotis On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Sheng Jiang wrote: > Hi, all NMLRG, > > Happy New Year! The below lists our potential 2016 NMLRG activities, which > have been discussed within the NMLRG organizing team. We would like to hear > your opinions and suggestions. > > NMLRG2 meeting within IETF 95 in Argentina; > NMLRG3 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; > NMLRG4 meeting within IETF 96 in Germany; > NMLRG5 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; > NMLRG6 meeting within IETF 97 in South Korea. > > Firstly, we are thinking to scheme NMLRG2 meeting in IETF 95 as network > traffic with machine learning. It could include traffic prediction using > ML, traffic recognition (may even with encryption) using ML, traffic > classification, traffic management using ML, deploying service using ML > according to traffic history, etc. How do you think? Will you be interested > in discussion of this scheme? Will you potentially make presentations > regarding it? > > [*PD1*]. Network traffic aspects and machine learning are fine. We will provide a presentation. > Secondly, for NMLRG3, ICML http://icml.cc, and EuCNC, http://www.eucnc.eu/ > are both very good candidates. We need to make choice between them. For > now, we are slightly preferring ICML, because it is more ML-oriented. > Giving that most of us are from network side, we would like to catch more > experts from Machine Learning background. How do you think? > > [*PD2*] My vote is for EuCNC. -- The first reason is to raise awareness regarding our group. -- In EuCNC there is a community of researchers working on aspects like 5G. In 5G there is the well accepted need to augment the intelligence, at all layers of the protocol stack, primarily through machine learning. So it is kind of a *unique* chance to *understand new problems* prior to going to solutions. -- Moreover, there are those that want to augment the impact of their research work. Therefore a group like ours is the relevant choice for them. Regarding EuCNC there is the option to organize a workshop. This for sure will attract a lot of attention . > Thirdly, any suggestion for future scheme? > [*PD3*] I would suggest to decide this in a future event. We can go in deep in the sub-categories of the "network traffic and machine learning" area (have a feeling that the subject is wide to be exhausted in one meeting) or address other areas. > > Fourthly, for NMLRG5, we should choose the opposite location of NMLRG > between north American and Europe, with Asia as backup. > > [*PD4*] OK. We would like to hear comments on the above activities. It would help us to > better organize our meeting and we all have a good society to discuss > network machine learning. > > Many thanks and best regards, > > Sheng > --001a1143ff7021ff7f05291caf2f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear all

first of al= l let me wish you a healthy, happy and prosperous 2016.

In line, below,= marked with [PD], are my responses to the discussions points below.=

Best regards
Panagiotis



On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:0= 2 AM, Sheng Jiang <jiangsheng@huawei.com> wrote:
Hi, all NMLRG,

Happy New Year! The below lists our potential 2016 NMLRG activities, which = have been discussed within the NMLRG organizing team. We would like to hear= your opinions and suggestions.

NMLRG2 meeting within IETF 95 in Argentina;
NMLRG3 interim meeting companying with an academic conference;
NMLRG4 meeting within IETF 96 in Germany;
NMLRG5 interim meeting companying with an academic conference;
NMLRG6 meeting within IETF 97 in South Korea.

Firstly, we are thinking to scheme NMLRG2 meeting in IETF 95 as network tra= ffic with machine learning. It could include traffic prediction using ML, t= raffic recognition (may even with encryption) using ML, traffic classificat= ion, traffic management using ML, deploying service using ML according to t= raffic history, etc. How do you think? Will you be interested in discussion= of this scheme? Will you potentially make presentations regarding it?


[PD1].=C2=A0Network traffic aspects and machine learning are fine. We wil= l provide a presentation.

=C2=A0
Secondly, for NMLRG3, ICML http://icml.cc, and EuCNC, http://www.eucnc.eu/ are both= very good candidates. We need to make choice between them. For now, we are= slightly preferring ICML, because it is more ML-oriented. Giving that most= of us are from network side, we would like to catch more experts from Mach= ine Learning background. How do you think?


[PD2] My vote is for EuCNC.=C2=A0

-- The first reason is to raise awareness reg= arding our group.
=C2=A0
-- In E= uCNC there is a community of researchers working on aspects like 5G. In 5G = there is the well accepted need to augment the intelligence, at all layers = of the protocol stack, primarily through machine learning. So it is kind of= a unique chance to understand new problems pri= or to going to solutions.

-= - Moreover, there are those that want to augment the impact of their resear= ch work. Therefore a group like ours is the relevant choice for them.
=

Regarding EuCNC there is the op= tion to organize a workshop. This for sure will attract a lot of attention = .

=C2=A0
Thirdly, any suggestion for future scheme?

<= div>[PD3] I would suggest to decide this in a future event. We can g= o in deep in the sub-categories of the=C2=A0"network traffic and machine learning"=C2=A0area (have a= feeling that the subject is wide to be exhausted in one=C2=A0meeting) or= =C2=A0address other areas.=C2=A0
=C2=A0

Fourthly, for NMLRG5, we should choose the opposite location of NMLRG betwe= en north American and Europe, with Asia as backup.


[PD4] OK.=C2=A0
=C2= =A0

We would like to hear comments on the above activities. It would help us to= better organize our meeting and we all have a good society to discuss netw= ork machine learning.

Many thanks and best regards,

Sheng

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Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160114061642.20395.20140.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:16:42 -0800 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:20:12 -0800 Cc: nmlrg-chairs@ietf.org, nmlrg@irtf.org, irtf-chair@irtf.org, jiangsheng@huawei.com Subject: [Nmlrg] nmlrg - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 95 X-BeenThere: nmlrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Network Machine Learning Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 06:16:42 -0000 A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Sheng Jiang, a Chair of the nmlrg working group. --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Proposed Network Machine Learning Research Group Area Name: IRTF Session Requester: Sheng Jiang Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 100 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: anima dhc sdnrg nfvrg nmrg Second Priority: 6man v6ops supa intarea Third Priority: netconf softwire Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Tue Jan 19 13:05:49 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmlrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmlrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69241B3637 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 13:05:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -93.558 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-93.558 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX=2.845, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RDNS_NONE=0.793, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b2SjIVe_loFr for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 13:05:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from hickoryhill-consulting.com (unknown [50.245.122.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher 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NMLRG activities X-BeenThere: nmlrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Machine Learning Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 21:05:47 -0000 Sheng:=20 I think schedule is exciting. Both Conferences have a paper deadline is = February 5th, 2016. Sue -----Original Message----- From: Sheng Jiang [mailto:jiangsheng@huawei.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 10:02 PM To: nmlrg@irtf.org Cc: Susan Hares; 'J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Fran=C3=A7ois'; 'Rudra Saha'; = 'Panagiotis Demestichas'; 'Albert Cabellos'; 'Brian Carpenter'; 'Dacheng = Zhang' Subject: Call for comments - 2016 NMLRG activities Hi, all NMLRG, Happy New Year! The below lists our potential 2016 NMLRG activities, = which have been discussed within the NMLRG organizing team. We would = like to hear your opinions and suggestions. NMLRG2 meeting within IETF 95 in Argentina; NMLRG3 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; NMLRG4 meeting within IETF 96 in Germany; NMLRG5 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; NMLRG6 meeting within IETF 97 in South Korea. Firstly, we are thinking to scheme NMLRG2 meeting in IETF 95 as network = traffic with machine learning. It could include traffic prediction using = ML, traffic recognition (may even with encryption) using ML, traffic = classification, traffic management using ML, deploying service using ML = according to traffic history, etc. How do you think? Will you be = interested in discussion of this scheme? Will you potentially make = presentations regarding it?=20 Secondly, for NMLRG3, ICML http://icml.cc, and EuCNC, = http://www.eucnc.eu/ are both very good candidates. We need to make = choice between them. For now, we are slightly preferring ICML, because = it is more ML-oriented. Giving that most of us are from network side, we = would like to catch more experts from Machine Learning background. How = do you think? Thirdly, any suggestion for future scheme? Fourthly, for NMLRG5, we should choose the opposite location of NMLRG = between north American and Europe, with Asia as backup. We would like to hear comments on the above activities. It would help us = to better organize our meeting and we all have a good society to discuss = network machine learning. Many thanks and best regards, Sheng From nobody Mon Jan 25 01:52:14 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmlrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmlrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54F81B2AEF for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 01:52:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.52 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.981, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 83K8oDf0CqV2 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 01:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from szxga03-in.huawei.com (szxga03-in.huawei.com [119.145.14.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B21C1B29EC for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 01:52:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.24.1.50 (EHLO NKGEML413-HUB.china.huawei.com) ([172.24.1.50]) by szxrg03-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.4.3-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BVE52800; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:51:57 +0800 (CST) Received: from NKGEML515-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.5.62]) by NKGEML413-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.74]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:51:55 +0800 From: Sheng Jiang To: "nmlrg@irtf.org" Thread-Topic: Holding NMLRG3 with EuCNC//RE: Call for comments - 2016 NMLRG activities Thread-Index: AQHRV1SFdTTeWn+ctkSLEZznMjLHzg== Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:51:55 +0000 Message-ID: <5D36713D8A4E7348A7E10DF7437A4B927C61AE9C@NKGEML515-MBS.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: en-GB X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.84.251] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_5D36713D8A4E7348A7E10DF7437A4B927C61AE9CNKGEML515MBSchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A020205.56A5F03D.00C9, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.5.62, so=2013-05-26 15:14:31, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: ed00f9a7051f9516fa48c2a24afc7879 Archived-At: Cc: Panagiotis Demestichas Subject: [Nmlrg] Holding NMLRG3 with EuCNC//RE: Call for comments - 2016 NMLRG activities X-BeenThere: nmlrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Machine Learning Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:52:12 -0000 --_000_5D36713D8A4E7348A7E10DF7437A4B927C61AE9CNKGEML515MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, all NMLRGers, >>NMLRG3 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; ICML http:= //icml.cc, and EuCNC, http://www.eucnc.eu/ are both very good candidates. Giving that Panagiotis had offer us extra help as a committee member of EuC= NC conference, we am now more preferring EuCNC, June 27~30 in Athens, Greec= e. The deadline for workshop application of EuCNC is Feb. 5th. So, if we di= d not hear any major objection by Jan 27th, Panagiotis and I will work on t= he proposal for the NMLRG workshop. If the application accepted, the NMLRG = workshop should would probably be arranged in June 27th. Hopefully, not onl= y IRTF/IETF people, but also academic people from both network and machine = learning, would attend this event. Best regards, Sheng ________________________________ From: Panagiotis Demestichas [pdemestichas@gmail.com] Sent: 12 January 2016 13:53 To: Sheng Jiang Cc: nmlrg@irtf.org; Susan Hares; J=E9r=F4me Fran=E7ois; Rudra Saha; Albert = Cabellos; Brian Carpenter; Dacheng Zhang Subject: Re: Call for comments - 2016 NMLRG activities Dear all first of all let me wish you a healthy, happy and prosperous 2016. In line, below, marked with [PD], are my responses to the discussions point= s below. Best regards Panagiotis On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Sheng Jiang > wrote: Hi, all NMLRG, Happy New Year! The below lists our potential 2016 NMLRG activities, which = have been discussed within the NMLRG organizing team. We would like to hear= your opinions and suggestions. NMLRG2 meeting within IETF 95 in Argentina; NMLRG3 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; NMLRG4 meeting within IETF 96 in Germany; NMLRG5 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; NMLRG6 meeting within IETF 97 in South Korea. Firstly, we are thinking to scheme NMLRG2 meeting in IETF 95 as network tra= ffic with machine learning. It could include traffic prediction using ML, t= raffic recognition (may even with encryption) using ML, traffic classificat= ion, traffic management using ML, deploying service using ML according to t= raffic history, etc. How do you think? Will you be interested in discussion= of this scheme? Will you potentially make presentations regarding it? [PD1]. Network traffic aspects and machine learning are fine. We will provi= de a presentation. Secondly, for NMLRG3, ICML http://icml.cc, and EuCNC, http://www.eucnc.eu/ = are both very good candidates. We need to make choice between them. For now= , we are slightly preferring ICML, because it is more ML-oriented. Giving t= hat most of us are from network side, we would like to catch more experts f= rom Machine Learning background. How do you think? [PD2] My vote is for EuCNC. -- The first reason is to raise awareness regarding our group. -- In EuCNC there is a community of researchers working on aspects like 5G.= In 5G there is the well accepted need to augment the intelligence, at all = layers of the protocol stack, primarily through machine learning. So it is = kind of a unique chance to understand new problems prior to going to soluti= ons. -- Moreover, there are those that want to augment the impact of their resea= rch work. Therefore a group like ours is the relevant choice for them. Regarding EuCNC there is the option to organize a workshop. This for sure w= ill attract a lot of attention . Thirdly, any suggestion for future scheme? [PD3] I would suggest to decide this in a future event. We can go in deep i= n the sub-categories of the "network traffic and machine learning" area (ha= ve a feeling that the subject is wide to be exhausted in one meeting) or ad= dress other areas. Fourthly, for NMLRG5, we should choose the opposite location of NMLRG betwe= en north American and Europe, with Asia as backup. [PD4] OK. We would like to hear comments on the above activities. It would help us to= better organize our meeting and we all have a good society to discuss netw= ork machine learning. Many thanks and best regards, Sheng --_000_5D36713D8A4E7348A7E10DF7437A4B927C61AE9CNKGEML515MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, all NMLRG= ers,
 
>>NMLRG= 3 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; ICML http://icml.cc, and EuCNC, http://www.eucnc.eu/ are both very good candidates.
 
Giving that P= anagiotis had offer us extra help as a committee member of EuCNC conference= , we am now more preferring EuCNC, June 27~30 in Athens, Greece. The deadline for worksho= p application of EuCNC is Feb. 5th. So, if we did not hear any major objection by Jan 27th, Panagiotis and I will wor= k on the proposal for the NMLRG workshop. If the application accepted, the = NMLRG workshop should would probably be arranged in June 27th. Hopefully, n= ot only IRTF/IETF people, but also academic people from both network and machine learning, would attend this = event.
 
Best regards,=
 
Sheng<= /span>

 

From: Panagiotis Demestichas [pdemestichas@gmail.com]
Sent: 12 January 2016 13:53
To: Sheng Jiang
Cc: nmlrg@irtf.org; Susan Hares; J=E9r=F4me Fran=E7ois; Rudra Saha; = Albert Cabellos; Brian Carpenter; Dacheng Zhang
Subject: Re: Call for comments - 2016 NMLRG activities

Dear all

first of all let me wish you a healthy, happ= y and prosperous 2016.

In line, below, marked with [PD], are= my responses to the discussions points below.

Best regards
Panagiotis



On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Sheng Jiang <jiangsheng@h= uawei.com> wrote:
Hi, all NMLRG,

Happy New Year! The below lists our potential 2016 NMLRG activities, which = have been discussed within the NMLRG organizing team. We would like to hear= your opinions and suggestions.

NMLRG2 meeting within IETF 95 in Argentina;
NMLRG3 interim meeting companying with an academic conference;
NMLRG4 meeting within IETF 96 in Germany;
NMLRG5 interim meeting companying with an academic conference;
NMLRG6 meeting within IETF 97 in South Korea.

Firstly, we are thinking to scheme NMLRG2 meeting in IETF 95 as network tra= ffic with machine learning. It could include traffic prediction using ML, t= raffic recognition (may even with encryption) using ML, traffic classificat= ion, traffic management using ML, deploying service using ML according to traffic history, etc. How do you t= hink? Will you be interested in discussion of this scheme? Will you potenti= ally make presentations regarding it?


[PD1]. Network traffic asp= ects and machine learning are fine. We will provide a presentation.<= /div>

 
Secondly, for NMLRG3, ICML http://icml.cc, and EuCNC, http://www.eucnc.eu/ are both very good candidates. We need to make cho= ice between them. For now, we are slightly preferring ICML, because it is m= ore ML-oriented. Giving that most of us are from network side, we would lik= e to catch more experts from Machine Learning background. How do you think?


[PD2] My vote i= s for EuCNC. 

-- The first reason is= to raise awareness regarding our group.
 
-- In EuCNC there is a= community of researchers working on aspects like 5G. In 5G there is the we= ll accepted need to augment the intelligence, at all layers of the protocol= stack, primarily through machine learning. So it is kind of a unique chance to understand new pro= blems prior to going to solutions.

-- Moreover, there are= those that want to augment the impact of their research work. Therefore a = group like ours is the relevant choice for them.

Regarding EuCNC there = is the option to organize a workshop. This for sure will attract a lot of a= ttention .

 
Thirdly, any suggestion for future scheme?

[PD3] I would suggest to decide this in a future event. We can = go in deep in the sub-categories of the address other areas. 
 

Fourthly, for NMLRG5, we should choose the opposite location of NMLRG betwe= en north American and Europe, with Asia as backup.


[PD4] OK. 
 

We would like to hear comments on the above activities. It would help us to= better organize our meeting and we all have a good society to discuss netw= ork machine learning.

Many thanks and best regards,

Sheng

--_000_5D36713D8A4E7348A7E10DF7437A4B927C61AE9CNKGEML515MBSchi_-- From nobody Mon Jan 25 05:55:32 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmlrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmlrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3CA1ABB19 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 05:55:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.269 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.269 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.981, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1ptG0Mql3uaf for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 05:55:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C1981ABB1A for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 05:55:26 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.22,344,1449529200"; d="scan'208,217";a="199154354" Received: from marly.loria.fr (HELO [152.81.8.41]) ([152.81.8.41]) by mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA; 25 Jan 2016 14:55:16 +0100 Message-ID: <56A62944.7090407@inria.fr> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 14:55:16 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?SsOpcsO0bWUgRnJhbsOnb2lz?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nmlrg@irtf.org References: <5D36713D8A4E7348A7E10DF7437A4B927C61AE9C@NKGEML515-MBS.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <5D36713D8A4E7348A7E10DF7437A4B927C61AE9C@NKGEML515-MBS.china.huawei.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070801080100020105010105" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Nmlrg] Holding NMLRG3 with EuCNC//RE: Call for comments - 2016 NMLRG activities X-BeenThere: nmlrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Machine Learning Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 13:55:30 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070801080100020105010105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sheng, I'm in favor of EuCNC. If you need some help regarding the proposal writing, let me know. Best regards, jerome Le 25/01/2016 10:51, Sheng Jiang a =C3=A9crit : > Hi, all NMLRGers, > =20 > >>NMLRG3 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; ICML h= ttp://icml.cc, and > EuCNC, http://www.eucnc.eu/are both very good candidates. > =20 > Giving that Panagiotis had offer us extra help as a committee member > of EuCNC conference, we am now more preferring EuCNC, June 27~30 in > Athens, Greece. The deadline for workshop application of EuCNC is Feb. > 5^th . So, if we did not hear any major objection by Jan 27th, > Panagiotis and I will work on the proposal for the NMLRG workshop. If > the application accepted, the NMLRG workshop should would probably be > arranged in June 27th. Hopefully, not only IRTF/IETF people, but also > academic people from both network and machine learning, would attend > this event. > =20 > Best regards, > =20 > Sheng > > =20 > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - > *From:* Panagiotis Demestichas [pdemestichas@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 12 January 2016 13:53 > *To:* Sheng Jiang > *Cc:* nmlrg@irtf.org; Susan Hares; J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Fran=C3=A7ois; Rudr= a Saha; Albert > Cabellos; Brian Carpenter; Dacheng Zhang > *Subject:* Re: Call for comments - 2016 NMLRG activities > > Dear all > > first of all let me wish you a healthy, happy and prosperous 2016. > > In line, below, marked with [*PD*], are my responses to the > discussions points below. > > Best regards > Panagiotis > > > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Sheng Jiang > wrote: > > Hi, all NMLRG, > > Happy New Year! The below lists our potential 2016 NMLRG > activities, which have been discussed within the NMLRG organizing > team. We would like to hear your opinions and suggestions. > > NMLRG2 meeting within IETF 95 in Argentina; > NMLRG3 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; > NMLRG4 meeting within IETF 96 in Germany; > NMLRG5 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; > NMLRG6 meeting within IETF 97 in South Korea. > > Firstly, we are thinking to scheme NMLRG2 meeting in IETF 95 as > network traffic with machine learning. It could include traffic > prediction using ML, traffic recognition (may even with > encryption) using ML, traffic classification, traffic management > using ML, deploying service using ML according to traffic history, > etc. How do you think? Will you be interested in discussion of > this scheme? Will you potentially make presentations regarding it? > > > [*PD1*]. Network traffic aspects and machine learning are fine. We > will provide a presentation. > > =20 > > Secondly, for NMLRG3, ICML http://icml.cc , and > EuCNC, http://www.eucnc.eu/ are both very > good candidates. We need to make choice between them. For now, we > are slightly preferring ICML, because it is more ML-oriented. > Giving that most of us are from network side, we would like to > catch more experts from Machine Learning background. How do you thi= nk? > > > [*PD2*] My vote is for EuCNC.=20 > > -- The first reason is to raise awareness regarding our group. > =20 > -- In EuCNC there is a community of researchers working on aspects > like 5G. In 5G there is the well accepted need to augment the > intelligence, at all layers of the protocol stack, primarily through > machine learning. So it is kind of a /_unique_/ chance to _/understand > new problems/_ prior to going to solutions. > > -- Moreover, there are those that want to augment the impact of their > research work. Therefore a group like ours is the relevant choice for > them. > > Regarding EuCNC there is the option to organize a workshop. This for > sure will attract a lot of attention . > > =20 > > Thirdly, any suggestion for future scheme? > > > [*PD3*] I would suggest to decide this in a future event. We can go in > deep in the sub-categories of the "network traffic and machine > learning" area (have a feeling that the subject is wide to be > exhausted in one meeting) or address other areas.=20 > =20 > > > Fourthly, for NMLRG5, we should choose the opposite location of > NMLRG between north American and Europe, with Asia as backup. > > > [*PD4*] OK.=20 > =20 > > We would like to hear comments on the above activities. It would > help us to better organize our meeting and we all have a good > society to discuss network machine learning. > > Many thanks and best regards, > > Sheng > > > > > _______________________________________________ > nmlrg mailing list > nmlrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmlrg --------------070801080100020105010105 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Sheng,

I'm in favor of EuCNC. If you need some help regarding the proposal writing, let me know.

Best regards,
jerome

Le 25/01/2016 10:51, Sheng Jiang a écrit :
Hi, all NMLRGers,
 
>>NMLRG3 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; ICML http://icml.cc, and EuCNC, http://www.eucnc.eu/ are both very good candidates.
 
Giving that Panagiotis had offer us extra help as a committee member of EuCNC conference, we am now more preferring EuCNC, June 27~30 in Athens, Greece. The deadline for workshop application of EuCNC is Feb. 5th. So, if we did not hear any major objection by Jan 27th, Panagiotis and I will work on the proposal for the NMLRG workshop. If the application accepted, the NMLRG workshop should would probably be arranged in June 27th. Hopefully, not only IRTF/IETF people, but also academic people from both network and machine learning, would attend this event.
 
Best regards,
 
Sheng

 

From: Panagiotis Demestichas [pdemestichas@gmail.com]
Sent: 12 January 2016 13:53
To: Sheng Jiang
Cc: nmlrg@irtf.org; Susan Hares; Jérôme François; Rudra Saha; Albert Cabellos; Brian Carpenter; Dacheng Zhang
Subject: Re: Call for comments - 2016 NMLRG activities

Dear all

first of all let me wish you a healthy, happy and prosperous 2016.

In line, below, marked with [PD], are my responses to the discussions points below.

Best regards
Panagiotis



On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Sheng Jiang <jiangsheng@huawei.com> wrote:
Hi, all NMLRG,

Happy New Year! The below lists our potential 2016 NMLRG activities, which have been discussed within the NMLRG organizing team. We would like to hear your opinions and suggestions.

NMLRG2 meeting within IETF 95 in Argentina;
NMLRG3 interim meeting companying with an academic conference;
NMLRG4 meeting within IETF 96 in Germany;
NMLRG5 interim meeting companying with an academic conference;
NMLRG6 meeting within IETF 97 in South Korea.

Firstly, we are thinking to scheme NMLRG2 meeting in IETF 95 as network traffic with machine learning. It could include traffic prediction using ML, traffic recognition (may even with encryption) using ML, traffic classification, traffic management using ML, deploying service using ML according to traffic history, etc. How do you think? Will you be interested in discussion of this scheme? Will you potentially make presentations regarding it?


[PD1]. Network traffic aspects and machine learning are fine. We will provide a presentation.

 
Secondly, for NMLRG3, ICML http://icml.cc, and EuCNC, http://www.eucnc.eu/ are both very good candidates. We need to make choice between them. For now, we are slightly preferring ICML, because it is more ML-oriented. Giving that most of us are from network side, we would like to catch more experts from Machine Learning background. How do you think?


[PD2] My vote is for EuCNC. 

-- The first reason is to raise awareness regarding our group.
 
-- In EuCNC there is a community of researchers working on aspects like 5G. In 5G there is the well accepted need to augment the intelligence, at all layers of the protocol stack, primarily through machine learning. So it is kind of a unique chance to understand new problems prior to going to solutions.

-- Moreover, there are those that want to augment the impact of their research work. Therefore a group like ours is the relevant choice for them.

Regarding EuCNC there is the option to organize a workshop. This for sure will attract a lot of attention .

 
Thirdly, any suggestion for future scheme?

[PD3] I would suggest to decide this in a future event. We can go in deep in the sub-categories of the "network traffic and machine learning" area (have a feeling that the subject is wide to be exhausted in one meeting) or address other areas. 
 

Fourthly, for NMLRG5, we should choose the opposite location of NMLRG between north American and Europe, with Asia as backup.


[PD4] OK. 
 

We would like to hear comments on the above activities. It would help us to better organize our meeting and we all have a good society to discuss network machine learning.

Many thanks and best regards,

Sheng



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If you need some help regarding the proposal = writing, let me know. Best regards, jerome Le 25/01/2016 10:51, Sheng Jiang a =C3=A9crit : Hi, all NMLRGers, =20 >>NMLRG3 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; ICML = http://icml.cc, and EuCNC, http://www.eucnc.eu/ are both very good = candidates. =20 Giving that Panagiotis had offer us extra help as a committee member of = EuCNC conference, we am now more preferring EuCNC, June 27~30 in Athens, = Greece. The deadline for workshop application of EuCNC is Feb. 5th. So, = if we did not hear any major objection by Jan 27th, Panagiotis and I = will work on the proposal for the NMLRG workshop. If the application = accepted, the NMLRG workshop should would probably be arranged in June = 27th. Hopefully, not only IRTF/IETF people, but also academic people = from both network and machine learning, would attend this event. =20 Best regards, =20 Sheng =20 _____ =20 From: Panagiotis Demestichas [pdemestichas@gmail.com] Sent: 12 January 2016 13:53 To: Sheng Jiang Cc: nmlrg@irtf.org; Susan Hares; J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Fran=C3=A7ois; Rudra = Saha; Albert Cabellos; Brian Carpenter; Dacheng Zhang Subject: Re: Call for comments - 2016 NMLRG activities Dear all=20 =20 first of all let me wish you a healthy, happy and prosperous 2016. =20 In line, below, marked with [PD], are my responses to the discussions = points below. =20 Best regards Panagiotis =20 =20 =20 On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Sheng Jiang = wrote: Hi, all NMLRG, Happy New Year! The below lists our potential 2016 NMLRG activities, = which have been discussed within the NMLRG organizing team. We would = like to hear your opinions and suggestions. NMLRG2 meeting within IETF 95 in Argentina; NMLRG3 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; NMLRG4 meeting within IETF 96 in Germany; NMLRG5 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; NMLRG6 meeting within IETF 97 in South Korea. Firstly, we are thinking to scheme NMLRG2 meeting in IETF 95 as network = traffic with machine learning. It could include traffic prediction using = ML, traffic recognition (may even with encryption) using ML, traffic = classification, traffic management using ML, deploying service using ML = according to traffic history, etc. How do you think? Will you be = interested in discussion of this scheme? Will you potentially make = presentations regarding it? =20 [PD1]. Network traffic aspects and machine learning are fine. We will = provide a presentation. =20 =20 Secondly, for NMLRG3, ICML http://icml.cc, and EuCNC, = http://www.eucnc.eu/ are both very good candidates. We need to make = choice between them. For now, we are slightly preferring ICML, because = it is more ML-oriented. Giving that most of us are from network side, we = would like to catch more experts from Machine Learning background. How = do you think? =20 [PD2] My vote is for EuCNC.=20 =20 -- The first reason is to raise awareness regarding our group. =20 -- In EuCNC there is a community of researchers working on aspects like = 5G. In 5G there is the well accepted need to augment the intelligence, = at all layers of the protocol stack, primarily through machine learning. = So it is kind of a unique chance to understand new problems prior to = going to solutions. =20 -- Moreover, there are those that want to augment the impact of their = research work. Therefore a group like ours is the relevant choice for = them. =20 Regarding EuCNC there is the option to organize a workshop. This for = sure will attract a lot of attention . =20 =20 Thirdly, any suggestion for future scheme? =20 [PD3] I would suggest to decide this in a future event. We can go in = deep in the sub-categories of the "network traffic and machine learning" = area (have a feeling that the subject is wide to be exhausted in one = meeting) or address other areas.=20 =20 Fourthly, for NMLRG5, we should choose the opposite location of NMLRG = between north American and Europe, with Asia as backup. =20 [PD4] OK.=20 =20 =20 We would like to hear comments on the above activities. It would help us = to better organize our meeting and we all have a good society to discuss = network machine learning. Many thanks and best regards, Sheng =20 _______________________________________________ nmlrg mailing list nmlrg@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmlrg =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0127_01D15764.F2245AF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sheng:

 

I agree that EuCNC sounds like a good idea.

 

Sue

 

From: nmlrg [mailto:nmlrg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of = J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Fran=C3=A7ois
Sent: Monday, January 25, = 2016 8:55 AM
To: nmlrg@irtf.org
Subject: Re: [Nmlrg] = Holding NMLRG3 with EuCNC//RE: Call for comments - 2016 NMLRG = activities

 

Hi Sheng,

I'm in favor of EuCNC. = If you need some help regarding the proposal writing, let me = know.

Best regards,
jerome

Le 25/01/2016 10:51, Sheng Jiang a = =C3=A9crit :

Hi, all = NMLRGers,

 

>>NMLRG3 = interim meeting companying with an academic conference; ICML http://icml.cc, and EuCNC, = http://www.eucnc.eu/ are both very good = candidates.

 

Giving that = Panagiotis had offer us extra help as a committee member of EuCNC = conference, we am now more preferring EuCNC, June 27~30 in Athens, = Greece. The deadline for workshop application of EuCNC is Feb. = 5= th. So, if we did = not hear any major objection by Jan 27th, Panagiotis and I will work on = the proposal for the NMLRG workshop. If the application accepted, the = NMLRG workshop should would probably be arranged in June 27th. = Hopefully, not only IRTF/IETF people, but also academic people from both = network and machine learning, would attend this event.

 

Best = regards,

 

Sheng

 <= /o:p>

From:= = Panagiotis Demestichas [pdemestichas@gmail.com]
= Sent: 12 January 2016 13:53
To: Sheng Jiang
Cc: = nmlrg@irtf.org; Susan Hares; = J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Fran=C3=A7ois; Rudra Saha; Albert Cabellos; Brian = Carpenter; Dacheng Zhang
Subject: Re: Call for comments - 2016 = NMLRG activities

Dear = all =

 

first of all = let me wish you a healthy, happy and prosperous = 2016.

 

In line, = below, marked with [PD], are my responses to the discussions = points below.

 

Best = regards

Panagiotis

 

 

 

On Mon, Jan = 11, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Sheng Jiang <jiangsheng@huawei.com> = wrote:

Hi, all = NMLRG,

Happy New Year! The below lists our potential 2016 NMLRG = activities, which have been discussed within the NMLRG organizing team. = We would like to hear your opinions and suggestions.

NMLRG2 = meeting within IETF 95 in Argentina;
NMLRG3 interim meeting = companying with an academic conference;
NMLRG4 meeting within IETF 96 = in Germany;
NMLRG5 interim meeting companying with an academic = conference;
NMLRG6 meeting within IETF 97 in South = Korea.

Firstly, we are thinking to scheme NMLRG2 meeting in IETF = 95 as network traffic with machine learning. It could include traffic = prediction using ML, traffic recognition (may even with encryption) = using ML, traffic classification, traffic management using ML, deploying = service using ML according to traffic history, etc. How do you think? = Will you be interested in discussion of this scheme? Will you = potentially make presentations regarding = it?

 

[PD1].=  Network traffic aspects and machine learning are fine. We will = provide a presentation.

 

 

Secondly, = for NMLRG3, ICML http://icml.cc, and EuCNC, http://www.eucnc.eu/ = are both very good candidates. We need to make choice between them. For = now, we are slightly preferring ICML, because it is more ML-oriented. = Giving that most of us are from network side, we would like to catch = more experts from Machine Learning background. How do you = think?

 

[PD2] = My vote is for EuCNC. 

 

-- The first = reason is to raise awareness regarding our = group.

 

-- In EuCNC = there is a community of researchers working on aspects like 5G. In 5G = there is the well accepted need to augment the intelligence, at all = layers of the protocol stack, primarily through machine learning. So it = is kind of a unique chance to understand new = problems prior to going to = solutions.

 

-- Moreover, = there are those that want to augment the impact of their research work. = Therefore a group like ours is the relevant choice for = them.

 

Regarding = EuCNC there is the option to organize a workshop. This for sure will = attract a lot of attention .

 

 

Thirdly, any = suggestion for future scheme?

 

[PD3] = I would suggest to decide this in a future event. We can go in deep in = the sub-categories of the "network traffic and machine = learning" area (have a feeling that the subject is wide to be = exhausted in one meeting) or address other = areas. 

 


Fourthly,= for NMLRG5, we should choose the opposite location of NMLRG between = north American and Europe, with Asia as = backup.

 

[PD4] = OK. 

 

 

We would = like to hear comments on the above activities. It would help us to = better organize our meeting and we all have a good society to discuss = network machine learning.

Many thanks and best = regards,

Sheng

 




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Moura" Message-ID: <56AB5A25.4040606@sidn.nl> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 13:25:09 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [94.198.159.146] X-ClientProxiedBy: ka-hubcasn01.SIDN.local (192.168.2.171) To ka-mbx03.SIDN.local (192.168.2.179) Archived-At: Subject: [Nmlrg] ENTRADA goes open source (.nl Hadoop platform) X-BeenThere: nmlrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Machine Learning Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 12:25:15 -0000 [apologies for multiple copies] ************************************************************* ENTRADA GOES OPEN SOURCE http://entrada.sidnlabs.nl/ ************************************************************* SIDN Labs [1] is happy to announce that we are releasing our ENTRADA platform as an open source project [2]. ENTRADA is a Hadoop-based platform designed to ingest and quickly analyze large amounts of network data. More technically, it is a high-performance data streaming warehouse (DSW). Please refer to our research paper [3] for a performance evaluation and more details. WHO CAN USE IT: * Internet measurement researchers who are in need of a high-performance analytics platform * Domain name registries and other network operators interested in developing DNS big data applications (e.g:[4]) MAIN FEATURES: * Performance: analyze the Parquet equivalent of 50 TB of pcap data in under 3.5 minutes, with a small 6-node cluster (4 data processing nodes). * Interface: benefit from easy SQL statements to analyze your data * Scalable: add more nodes for faster processing and more storage * Built-in support for DNS (and TCP/UDP/IP fields too) and ICMP network data; other protocols may be added too. DEPLOYMENT: We have been using ENTRADA at SIDN Labs for the past 1.5 years. It currently runs on a relatively small 6 node cluster (with 4 data-nodes), which store DNS traffic from the .nl authoritative servers. In total, ENTRADA has more than 100 billion queries and responses stored, and 400 million are added on a daily basis. It can also be deployed on a cloud environment. We also make available open aggregated datasets at [5]. ABOUT SIDN AND SIDN LABS SIDN [6] manages .nl, the country code TLD of the Netherlands. SIDN Labs [1] is SIDN's R&D team, which develops and evaluates new technologies and systems to improve both stability and security of .nl zone. References: [1] https://www.sidnlabs.nl/ [2] http://entrada.sidnlabs.nl/ [3] https://www.sidnlabs.nl/sidn-noms2016.pdf [4] http://iepg.org/2015-11-01-ietf94/iepg-moura.pdf [5] http://stats.sidnlabs.nl [6] https://sidn.nl From nobody Fri Jan 29 04:30:55 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmlrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmlrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB92C1A87E4 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2016 04:30:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.493 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.493 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i6gxhGvn5tf7 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2016 04:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from arn2-kamx.sidn.nl (kamx.sidn.nl [IPv6:2a00:d78:0:147:94:198:152:69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBC771A87E6 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2016 04:30:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; d=sidn.nl; s=sidn-nl; c=relaxed/relaxed; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-originating-ip:x-clientproxiedby; bh=W35K3j3PlMdDDKpNK3k7Au1w1thfbdp3OZ44E+5wPrs=; b=U/rxxm19RVaw9p7Syt6fD46RMY11e6TDuECU2nvAMDA/Eal0VWbarr0b23UM3R1AxRn0dbQp9DrmUu/dZh3RyLW6f1SQ9GCxB4UCKNJ4j3ytP8M7mlWgSmExU+Jxn3naYNMJsAUGeyjim4FTgQwjMx2BCqqR4AtLoTCQr2b+WgpfuvSmqziSOBxg0I9vqAj0xxKeYEeOWm50ij4iCUqKKJV5cW9ex6ENtm7sKc79sX6UtA/3XFL4HMRPZ2sXBeJVaKTxaXQa3AyjOgY8sQDyF44iiP4uKQykgIPHnMh6yMlJV0Vcx4obaTFtMGHFK8W/lsuRkvP6HA6lGqc71IjYMQ== Received: from ka-mbx03.SIDN.local ([192.168.2.179]) by arn2-kamx.sidn.nl with ESMTP id u0TCUn3K005765-u0TCUn3M005765 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=CAFAIL) for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2016 13:30:49 +0100 Received: from [94.198.159.146] (94.198.159.146) by ka-mbx03.SIDN.local (192.168.2.179) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1130.7; Fri, 29 Jan 2016 13:31:00 +0100 To: References: <5D36713D8A4E7348A7E10DF7437A4B927C61AE9C@NKGEML515-MBS.china.huawei.com> <56A62944.7090407@inria.fr> <012601d1578e$daf580f0$90e082d0$@ndzh.com> From: "Giovane C. M. Moura" Message-ID: <56AB5B78.5060301@sidn.nl> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 13:30:48 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <012601d1578e$daf580f0$90e082d0$@ndzh.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: [94.198.159.146] X-ClientProxiedBy: ka-hubcasn01.SIDN.local (192.168.2.171) To ka-mbx03.SIDN.local (192.168.2.179) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Nmlrg] Holding NMLRG3 with EuCNC//RE: Call for comments - 2016 NMLRG activities X-BeenThere: nmlrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Machine Learning Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 12:30:53 -0000 EuCNC also works best for me. I'd like also to volunteer to help. Best, Giovane -- Giovane C. M. Moura, Ph.D. Data Scientist SIDN | Meander 501 | 6825 MD | Postbus 5022 | 6802 EA | ARNHEM giovane.moura@sidn.nl | http://www.sidn.nl/ On 01/25/2016 05:38 PM, Susan Hares wrote: > Sheng: > > > > I agree that EuCNC sounds like a good idea. > > > > Sue > > > > *From:*nmlrg [mailto:nmlrg-bounces@irtf.org] *On Behalf Of *Jérôme François > *Sent:* Monday, January 25, 2016 8:55 AM > *To:* nmlrg@irtf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Nmlrg] Holding NMLRG3 with EuCNC//RE: Call for comments > - 2016 NMLRG activities > > > > Hi Sheng, > > I'm in favor of EuCNC. If you need some help regarding the proposal > writing, let me know. > > Best regards, > jerome > > Le 25/01/2016 10:51, Sheng Jiang a écrit : > > Hi, all NMLRGers, > > > > >>NMLRG3 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; ICML http://icml.cc, and EuCNC, http://www.eucnc.eu/ are both very good > candidates. > > > > Giving that Panagiotis had offer us extra help as a committee member > of EuCNC conference, we am now more preferring EuCNC, June 27~30 in > Athens, Greece. The deadline for workshop application of EuCNC is > Feb. 5^th . So, if we did not hear any major objection by Jan 27th, > Panagiotis and I will work on the proposal for the NMLRG workshop. > If the application accepted, the NMLRG workshop should would > probably be arranged in June 27th. Hopefully, not only IRTF/IETF > people, but also academic people from both network and machine > learning, would attend this event. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Sheng > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Panagiotis Demestichas [pdemestichas@gmail.com > ] > *Sent:* 12 January 2016 13:53 > *To:* Sheng Jiang > *Cc:* nmlrg@irtf.org ; Susan Hares; Jérôme > François; Rudra Saha; Albert Cabellos; Brian Carpenter; Dacheng Zhang > *Subject:* Re: Call for comments - 2016 NMLRG activities > > Dear all > > > > first of all let me wish you a healthy, happy and prosperous 2016. > > > > In line, below, marked with [*PD*], are my responses to the > discussions points below. > > > > Best regards > > Panagiotis > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Sheng Jiang > wrote: > > Hi, all NMLRG, > > Happy New Year! The below lists our potential 2016 NMLRG activities, > which have been discussed within the NMLRG organizing team. We would > like to hear your opinions and suggestions. > > NMLRG2 meeting within IETF 95 in Argentina; > NMLRG3 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; > NMLRG4 meeting within IETF 96 in Germany; > NMLRG5 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; > NMLRG6 meeting within IETF 97 in South Korea. > > Firstly, we are thinking to scheme NMLRG2 meeting in IETF 95 as > network traffic with machine learning. It could include traffic > prediction using ML, traffic recognition (may even with encryption) > using ML, traffic classification, traffic management using ML, > deploying service using ML according to traffic history, etc. How do > you think? Will you be interested in discussion of this scheme? Will > you potentially make presentations regarding it? > > > > [*PD1*]. Network traffic aspects and machine learning are fine. We > will provide a presentation. > > > > > > Secondly, for NMLRG3, ICML http://icml.cc, and EuCNC, > http://www.eucnc.eu/ are both very good candidates. We need to > make choice between them. For now, we are slightly preferring > ICML, because it is more ML-oriented. Giving that most of us are > from network side, we would like to catch more experts from > Machine Learning background. How do you think? > > > > [*PD2*] My vote is for EuCNC. > > > > -- The first reason is to raise awareness regarding our group. > > > > -- In EuCNC there is a community of researchers working on aspects > like 5G. In 5G there is the well accepted need to augment the > intelligence, at all layers of the protocol stack, primarily through > machine learning. So it is kind of a /_unique_/ chance to > /_understand new problems_/ prior to going to solutions. > > > > -- Moreover, there are those that want to augment the impact of > their research work. Therefore a group like ours is the relevant > choice for them. > > > > Regarding EuCNC there is the option to organize a workshop. This for > sure will attract a lot of attention . > > > > > > Thirdly, any suggestion for future scheme? > > > > [*PD3*] I would suggest to decide this in a future event. We can go > in deep in the sub-categories of the "network traffic and machine > learning" area (have a feeling that the subject is wide to be > exhausted in one meeting) or address other areas. > > > > > Fourthly, for NMLRG5, we should choose the opposite location of > NMLRG between north American and Europe, with Asia as backup. > > > > [*PD4*] OK. > > > > > > We would like to hear comments on the above activities. It would > help us to better organize our meeting and we all have a good > society to discuss network machine learning. > > Many thanks and best regards, > > Sheng > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > nmlrg mailing list > > nmlrg@irtf.org > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmlrg > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > nmlrg mailing list > nmlrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmlrg > -- Giovane C. M. 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This year EUCNC theme is = 5G. I feel more exposure to ML serves us better at this time.=20 Thanks Karan Makhijani -----Original Message----- From: nmlrg [mailto:nmlrg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Giovane C. M. = Moura Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 4:31 AM To: nmlrg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [Nmlrg] Holding NMLRG3 with EuCNC//RE: Call for comments - = 2016 NMLRG activities EuCNC also works best for me. I'd like also to volunteer to help. Best, Giovane -- Giovane C. M. Moura, Ph.D. Data Scientist SIDN | Meander 501 | 6825 MD | Postbus 5022 | 6802 EA | ARNHEM giovane.moura@sidn.nl | http://www.sidn.nl/ On 01/25/2016 05:38 PM, Susan Hares wrote: > Sheng: >=20 > =20 >=20 > I agree that EuCNC sounds like a good idea. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Sue >=20 > =20 >=20 > *From:*nmlrg [mailto:nmlrg-bounces@irtf.org] *On Behalf Of *J=E9r=F4me Fran=E7ois > *Sent:* Monday, January 25, 2016 8:55 AM > *To:* nmlrg@irtf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Nmlrg] Holding NMLRG3 with EuCNC//RE: Call for = comments > - 2016 NMLRG activities >=20 > =20 >=20 > Hi Sheng, >=20 > I'm in favor of EuCNC. If you need some help regarding the proposal > writing, let me know. >=20 > Best regards, > jerome >=20 > Le 25/01/2016 10:51, Sheng Jiang a =E9crit : >=20 > Hi, all NMLRGers, >=20 > =20 >=20 > >>NMLRG3 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; = ICML http://icml.cc, and EuCNC, http://www.eucnc.eu/ are both very good > candidates. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Giving that Panagiotis had offer us extra help as a committee = member > of EuCNC conference, we am now more preferring EuCNC, June 27~30 = in > Athens, Greece. The deadline for workshop application of EuCNC is > Feb. 5^th . So, if we did not hear any major objection by Jan = 27th, > Panagiotis and I will work on the proposal for the NMLRG workshop. > If the application accepted, the NMLRG workshop should would > probably be arranged in June 27th. Hopefully, not only IRTF/IETF > people, but also academic people from both network and machine > learning, would attend this event. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > =20 >=20 > Sheng >=20 > =20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >=20 > *From:*Panagiotis Demestichas [pdemestichas@gmail.com > ] > *Sent:* 12 January 2016 13:53 > *To:* Sheng Jiang > *Cc:* nmlrg@irtf.org ; Susan Hares; = J=E9r=F4me > Fran=E7ois; Rudra Saha; Albert Cabellos; Brian Carpenter; Dacheng = Zhang > *Subject:* Re: Call for comments - 2016 NMLRG activities >=20 > Dear all >=20 > =20 >=20 > first of all let me wish you a healthy, happy and prosperous 2016. >=20 > =20 >=20 > In line, below, marked with [*PD*], are my responses to the > discussions points below. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Best regards >=20 > Panagiotis >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Sheng Jiang = > wrote: >=20 > Hi, all NMLRG, >=20 > Happy New Year! The below lists our potential 2016 NMLRG = activities, > which have been discussed within the NMLRG organizing team. We = would > like to hear your opinions and suggestions. >=20 > NMLRG2 meeting within IETF 95 in Argentina; > NMLRG3 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; > NMLRG4 meeting within IETF 96 in Germany; > NMLRG5 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; > NMLRG6 meeting within IETF 97 in South Korea. >=20 > Firstly, we are thinking to scheme NMLRG2 meeting in IETF 95 as > network traffic with machine learning. It could include traffic > prediction using ML, traffic recognition (may even with = encryption) > using ML, traffic classification, traffic management using ML, > deploying service using ML according to traffic history, etc. How = do > you think? Will you be interested in discussion of this scheme? = Will > you potentially make presentations regarding it? >=20 > =20 >=20 > [*PD1*]. Network traffic aspects and machine learning are fine. We > will provide a presentation. >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > Secondly, for NMLRG3, ICML http://icml.cc, and EuCNC, > http://www.eucnc.eu/ are both very good candidates. We need to > make choice between them. For now, we are slightly preferring > ICML, because it is more ML-oriented. Giving that most of us = are > from network side, we would like to catch more experts from > Machine Learning background. How do you think? >=20 > =20 >=20 > [*PD2*] My vote is for EuCNC.=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > -- The first reason is to raise awareness regarding our group. >=20 > =20 >=20 > -- In EuCNC there is a community of researchers working on aspects > like 5G. In 5G there is the well accepted need to augment the > intelligence, at all layers of the protocol stack, primarily = through > machine learning. So it is kind of a /_unique_/ chance to > /_understand new problems_/ prior to going to solutions. >=20 > =20 >=20 > -- Moreover, there are those that want to augment the impact of > their research work. Therefore a group like ours is the relevant > choice for them. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Regarding EuCNC there is the option to organize a workshop. This = for > sure will attract a lot of attention . >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > Thirdly, any suggestion for future scheme? >=20 > =20 >=20 > [*PD3*] I would suggest to decide this in a future event. We can = go > in deep in the sub-categories of the "network traffic and machine > learning" area (have a feeling that the subject is wide to be > exhausted in one meeting) or address other areas.=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > Fourthly, for NMLRG5, we should choose the opposite location = of > NMLRG between north American and Europe, with Asia as backup. >=20 > =20 >=20 > [*PD4*] OK.=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > We would like to hear comments on the above activities. It = would > help us to better organize our meeting and we all have a good > society to discuss network machine learning. >=20 > Many thanks and best regards, >=20 > Sheng >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ >=20 > nmlrg mailing list >=20 > nmlrg@irtf.org >=20 > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmlrg >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > nmlrg mailing list > nmlrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmlrg >=20 --=20 Giovane C. M. Moura, Ph.D. _______________________________________________ nmlrg mailing list nmlrg@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmlrg From nobody Fri Jan 29 09:58:13 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmlrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmlrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E8B1A8A3D for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2016 09:58:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.751 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.751 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, URI_NOVOWEL=0.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OwTXRlS_WuKt for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2016 09:58:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C30041A89C4 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2016 09:58:06 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.22,365,1449529200"; d="scan'208";a="200125606" Received: from marly.loria.fr (HELO [152.81.8.41]) ([152.81.8.41]) by mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA; 29 Jan 2016 18:58:05 +0100 Message-ID: <56ABA82C.10506@inria.fr> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 18:58:04 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?J=E9r=F4me_Fran=E7ois?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nmlrg@irtf.org References: <5D36713D8A4E7348A7E10DF7437A4B927C61AE9C@NKGEML515-MBS.china.huawei.com> <56A62944.7090407@inria.fr> <012601d1578e$daf580f0$90e082d0$@ndzh.com> <56AB5B78.5060301@sidn.nl> <01fa01d15ab0$d06d6830$71483890$@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <01fa01d15ab0$d06d6830$71483890$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Nmlrg] Holding NMLRG3 with EuCNC//RE: Call for comments - 2016 NMLRG activities X-BeenThere: nmlrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Machine Learning Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 17:58:11 -0000 Hi, For ML, we can also target (ECML-PKDD) for NMLRG#5. http://www.ecmlpkdd2016.org/submission.html#call-workshops I have already discussed with colleagues in this field and they could help. Best, jerome Le 29/01/2016 17:19, Kiran (Gmail) a écrit : > Hi Sheng, > I prefer ICML, because we get more opportunities to find subject area > experts and topics even outside the workshop. This year EUCNC theme is 5G. > I feel more exposure to ML serves us better at this time. > Thanks > Karan Makhijani > > -----Original Message----- > From: nmlrg [mailto:nmlrg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Giovane C. M. Moura > Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 4:31 AM > To: nmlrg@irtf.org > Subject: Re: [Nmlrg] Holding NMLRG3 with EuCNC//RE: Call for comments - 2016 > NMLRG activities > > EuCNC also works best for me. > > I'd like also to volunteer to help. > > Best, > > Giovane > > > > -- > Giovane C. M. Moura, Ph.D. > Data Scientist > SIDN | Meander 501 | 6825 MD | Postbus 5022 | 6802 EA | ARNHEM > giovane.moura@sidn.nl | http://www.sidn.nl/ > > > On 01/25/2016 05:38 PM, Susan Hares wrote: >> Sheng: >> >> >> >> I agree that EuCNC sounds like a good idea. >> >> >> >> Sue >> >> >> >> *From:*nmlrg [mailto:nmlrg-bounces@irtf.org] *On Behalf Of *Jérôme > François >> *Sent:* Monday, January 25, 2016 8:55 AM >> *To:* nmlrg@irtf.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Nmlrg] Holding NMLRG3 with EuCNC//RE: Call for comments >> - 2016 NMLRG activities >> >> >> >> Hi Sheng, >> >> I'm in favor of EuCNC. If you need some help regarding the proposal >> writing, let me know. >> >> Best regards, >> jerome >> >> Le 25/01/2016 10:51, Sheng Jiang a écrit : >> >> Hi, all NMLRGers, >> >> >> >> >>NMLRG3 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; ICML > http://icml.cc, and EuCNC, http://www.eucnc.eu/ are both very good >> candidates. >> >> >> >> Giving that Panagiotis had offer us extra help as a committee member >> of EuCNC conference, we am now more preferring EuCNC, June 27~30 in >> Athens, Greece. The deadline for workshop application of EuCNC is >> Feb. 5^th . So, if we did not hear any major objection by Jan 27th, >> Panagiotis and I will work on the proposal for the NMLRG workshop. >> If the application accepted, the NMLRG workshop should would >> probably be arranged in June 27th. Hopefully, not only IRTF/IETF >> people, but also academic people from both network and machine >> learning, would attend this event. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> >> Sheng >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:*Panagiotis Demestichas [pdemestichas@gmail.com >> ] >> *Sent:* 12 January 2016 13:53 >> *To:* Sheng Jiang >> *Cc:* nmlrg@irtf.org ; Susan Hares; Jérôme >> François; Rudra Saha; Albert Cabellos; Brian Carpenter; Dacheng Zhang >> *Subject:* Re: Call for comments - 2016 NMLRG activities >> >> Dear all >> >> >> >> first of all let me wish you a healthy, happy and prosperous 2016. >> >> >> >> In line, below, marked with [*PD*], are my responses to the >> discussions points below. >> >> >> >> Best regards >> >> Panagiotis >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Sheng Jiang > > wrote: >> >> Hi, all NMLRG, >> >> Happy New Year! The below lists our potential 2016 NMLRG activities, >> which have been discussed within the NMLRG organizing team. We would >> like to hear your opinions and suggestions. >> >> NMLRG2 meeting within IETF 95 in Argentina; >> NMLRG3 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; >> NMLRG4 meeting within IETF 96 in Germany; >> NMLRG5 interim meeting companying with an academic conference; >> NMLRG6 meeting within IETF 97 in South Korea. >> >> Firstly, we are thinking to scheme NMLRG2 meeting in IETF 95 as >> network traffic with machine learning. It could include traffic >> prediction using ML, traffic recognition (may even with encryption) >> using ML, traffic classification, traffic management using ML, >> deploying service using ML according to traffic history, etc. How do >> you think? Will you be interested in discussion of this scheme? Will >> you potentially make presentations regarding it? >> >> >> >> [*PD1*]. Network traffic aspects and machine learning are fine. We >> will provide a presentation. >> >> >> >> >> >> Secondly, for NMLRG3, ICML http://icml.cc, and EuCNC, >> http://www.eucnc.eu/ are both very good candidates. We need to >> make choice between them. For now, we are slightly preferring >> ICML, because it is more ML-oriented. Giving that most of us are >> from network side, we would like to catch more experts from >> Machine Learning background. How do you think? >> >> >> >> [*PD2*] My vote is for EuCNC. >> >> >> >> -- The first reason is to raise awareness regarding our group. >> >> >> >> -- In EuCNC there is a community of researchers working on aspects >> like 5G. In 5G there is the well accepted need to augment the >> intelligence, at all layers of the protocol stack, primarily through >> machine learning. So it is kind of a /_unique_/ chance to >> /_understand new problems_/ prior to going to solutions. >> >> >> >> -- Moreover, there are those that want to augment the impact of >> their research work. Therefore a group like ours is the relevant >> choice for them. >> >> >> >> Regarding EuCNC there is the option to organize a workshop. This for >> sure will attract a lot of attention . >> >> >> >> >> >> Thirdly, any suggestion for future scheme? >> >> >> >> [*PD3*] I would suggest to decide this in a future event. We can go >> in deep in the sub-categories of the "network traffic and machine >> learning" area (have a feeling that the subject is wide to be >> exhausted in one meeting) or address other areas. >> >> >> >> >> Fourthly, for NMLRG5, we should choose the opposite location of >> NMLRG between north American and Europe, with Asia as backup. >> >> >> >> [*PD4*] OK. >> >> >> >> >> >> We would like to hear comments on the above activities. It would >> help us to better organize our meeting and we all have a good >> society to discuss network machine learning. >> >> Many thanks and best regards, >> >> Sheng >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> nmlrg mailing list >> >> nmlrg@irtf.org >> >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmlrg >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nmlrg mailing list >> nmlrg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmlrg >>