Subject: Re: [nmrg] future meetings
From: Margaret Wasserman <[email-masked]>
To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email-masked]>
Cc: Network Management Research Group <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 16:05:57 -0400
List-Id: Network Management Research Group <nmrg.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de>

Hi Juergen,

Did you make any decision about this?

I could still do a meeting on the Friday/Saturday after
the Vienna IETF if that works for others...  But, I'd
like to know ASAP so that I can book my plane tickets.

Thanks,
Margaret

At 03:25 PM 5/7/2003 +0200, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:

>We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal Gaspary <[email-masked]> to
>hold a meeting next to LANOMS 2003 (early September) in Iguassu Falls.
>I would like to collect feedback from you, especially:
>
>- what specific topics do you suggest to work on
>
>- whether you will be able to travel to such a meeting in Brazil
>
>Please drop me a note so that I can collect feedback to see whether
>such a meeting is realistic. Other proposed meetings in Europe are:
>
>- next to the IETF meeting in Vienna in July
>
>- next to the DSOM workshop in October (perhaps here in Bremen)
>
>Please let me know what you think.
>
>/js
>
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From: Frank Strauss <[email-masked]>
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Date: 28 May 2003 12:29:59 +0200
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Subject: [nmrg] NMRG SMIng Internet Drafts
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Hi!

Please post the following three documents as Internet Drafts. They
are produced by the Network Management Research Group (NMRG) of the
IRTF. Their sequence number suffix is "03", because there have been
previous incarnations of these documents some time ago.

http://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/projects/sming/draft-irtf-nmrg-sming-03.txt
http://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/projects/sming/draft-irtf-nmrg-sming-snmp-03.txt
http://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/projects/sming/draft-irtf-nmrg-sming-modules-03.txt

Thank you.

 -frank

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Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 18:30:30 -0400
To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email-masked]>, Network Management Research Group <[email-masked]>
From: Ralph Droms <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [nmrg] Re: nmrgfuture meetings
Sender: [email-masked]

At 06:46 AM 5/12/2003 -0700, Wes Hardaker wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 7 May 2003 15:25:48 +0200, Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email-masked]> said:
>
>Juergen> - next to the IETF meeting in Vienna in July

I would prefer to meet some time during or immediately after the Vienna IETF...

- Ralph Droms

Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 13:52:20 +0200
From: Aiko Pras <[email-masked]>
To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email-masked]>
CC: Network Management Research Group <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [nmrg] future meetings
Sender: [email-masked]

A bit late, but here are my answers

Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal Gaspary <[email-masked]> to
> hold a meeting next to LANOMS 2003 (early September) in Iguassu Falls.
> I would like to collect feedback from you, especially:
> 
> - what specific topics do you suggest to work on
Although the XML, SOAP, WSDL activities are very interesting and fit 
well in what we've done before, we must take care that we have a clear 
focus for the meeting, which should NOT be a netconf WG meeting!

> 
> - whether you will be able to travel to such a meeting in Brazil
No

> 
> Please drop me a note so that I can collect feedback to see whether
> such a meeting is realistic. Other proposed meetings in Europe are:
> 
> - next to the IETF meeting in Vienna in July
Unlikely (because of holiday), but not impossible

> 
> - next to the DSOM workshop in October (perhaps here in Bremen)
Sure, no problem

Aiko

> 
> Please let me know what you think.
> 
> /js
> 

To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email-masked]>
Cc: Network Management Research Group <[email-masked]>
From: Wes Hardaker <[email-masked]>
Organization: Network Associates Laboratories
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 06:46:16 -0700
Subject: [nmrg] Re: nmrgfuture meetings
Sender: [email-masked]

>>>>> On Wed, 7 May 2003 15:25:48 +0200, Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email-masked]> said:

Juergen> - next to the IETF meeting in Vienna in July

I'd certainly prefer this, as it means I'd actually be able to attend
anther one (sorry my appearances are so rare).

-- 
Wes Hardaker
Network Associates Laboratories

Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 08:16:51 +0200
From: "J.P. Martin-Flatin" <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: "J.P. Martin-Flatin" <[email-masked]>
To: Network Management Research Group <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [nmrg] future meetings
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I cannot attend LANOMS.

Next to the IETF meeting, I am currently free from July 12 to 19 included. 
I have to go on July 19 at 6:00 pm at the latest.

Next to DSOM, I am free from October 18 to 25. I would rather stay near 
Heidelberg than go to Bremen, if possible.

Regarding topics, I would like to discuss:

  - XML-based configuration management
  - layered information modeling

JP

Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal Gaspary <[email-masked]> to
> hold a meeting next to LANOMS 2003 (early September) in Iguassu Falls.
> I would like to collect feedback from you, especially:
> 
> - what specific topics do you suggest to work on
> 
> - whether you will be able to travel to such a meeting in Brazil
> 
> Please drop me a note so that I can collect feedback to see whether
> such a meeting is realistic. Other proposed meetings in Europe are:
> 
> - next to the IETF meeting in Vienna in July
> 
> - next to the DSOM workshop in October (perhaps here in Bremen)
> 
> Please let me know what you think.
> 
> /js
> 

From: John Strassner <[email-masked]>
To: "'Frank Strauss'" <[email-masked]>, Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email-masked]>
Cc: Network Management Research Group <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [nmrg] future meetings
Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 10:00:47 -0600 
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I can't make it to Brazil, though I would love to go. I'll be at MMNS in
Ireland.

Gee Frank, maybe we should talk about the upcoming I-D that I intend to
write. ;-) Though I doubt I will submit it to netconf...

regards,
John
 
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From: Frank Strauss [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:59 AM
To: Juergen Schoenwaelder
Cc: Network Management Research Group
Subject: Re: [nmrg] future meetings

Hi!

Juergen> We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal Gaspary 
Juergen> <[email-masked]> to hold a meeting next to LANOMS 2003 
Juergen> (early September) in Iguassu Falls.  I would like to collect 
Juergen> feedback from you, especially:

Juergen> - what specific topics do you suggest to work on

My two personally preferred topics are (a) getting deeper into netconf
related stuff, especially how to get netconf operations specified and
realized with existing RPC technologies (especially WSDL & SOAP) and (b)
developing a piece of software to monitor SNMP traffic characteristics.

Juergen> - whether you will be able to travel to such a meeting in 
Juergen> Brazil

I thank Luciano a lot for this offer and I would really love to travel to
Brazil. However, I have severe doubts that I will be able to get there.  Any
of the proposed meeting places in DE or AT would seem much more realistic to
me personally. 

 -frank
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>regards,</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:59 AM</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Juergen&gt; We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Juergen&gt; (early September) in Iguassu =
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(especially WSDL &amp; SOAP) and (b) developing a piece of software to =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Juergen&gt; - whether you will be able to travel to =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I thank Luciano a lot for this offer and I would =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;-frank</FONT>
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From: Frank Strauss <[email-masked]>
To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email-masked]>
Cc: Network Management Research Group <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [nmrg] future meetings
Date: 08 May 2003 10:59:09 +0200
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Hi!

Juergen> We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal Gaspary
Juergen> <[email-masked]> to hold a meeting next to LANOMS 2003
Juergen> (early September) in Iguassu Falls.  I would like to collect
Juergen> feedback from you, especially:

Juergen> - what specific topics do you suggest to work on

My two personally preferred topics are (a) getting deeper into netconf
related stuff, especially how to get netconf operations specified and
realized with existing RPC technologies (especially WSDL & SOAP) and (b)
developing a piece of software to monitor SNMP traffic characteristics.

Juergen> - whether you will be able to travel to such a meeting in Brazil

I thank Luciano a lot for this offer and I would really love to travel
to Brazil. However, I have severe doubts that I will be able to get
there.  Any of the proposed meeting places in DE or AT would seem much
more realistic to me personally. 

 -frank

Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 08:40:34 +0200
From: Marcus Brunner <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: Marcus Brunner <[email-masked]>
To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email-masked]>
Cc: Network Management Research Group <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [nmrg] future meetings
Sender: [email-masked]

If next to DSOM I can easily offer rooms here in Heidelberg. Also every 
other time you like.

Marcus

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Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 15:16:51 -0400
To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email-masked]>
From: Margaret Wasserman <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [nmrg] future meetings
Cc: Network Management Research Group <[email-masked]>
Sender: [email-masked]

Hi Juergen,

I would attend a meeting next to the IETF in Vienna, if it
is planned soon.  I would prefer to meet after the IETF
meeting, rather than before, because I am always very
busy before the IETF meetings.

I probably won't be able to attend other meetings in Europe
unless they happen to align with Wind River activities,
because of travel budget.

Margaret

At 03:25 PM 5/7/2003 +0200, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:

>We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal Gaspary <[email-masked]> to
>hold a meeting next to LANOMS 2003 (early September) in Iguassu Falls.
>I would like to collect feedback from you, especially:
>
>- what specific topics do you suggest to work on
>
>- whether you will be able to travel to such a meeting in Brazil
>
>Please drop me a note so that I can collect feedback to see whether
>such a meeting is realistic. Other proposed meetings in Europe are:
>
>- next to the IETF meeting in Vienna in July
>
>- next to the DSOM workshop in October (perhaps here in Bremen)
>
>Please let me know what you think.
>
>/js
>
>--
>Juergen Schoenwaelder           International University Bremen
>Phone: +49 421 200 3587         P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany
>Fax:   +49 421 200 3103         <http://www.iu-bremen.de/>
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Subject: RE: [nmrg] future meetings
Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 11:31:33 -0400
From: "Harrington, David" <[email-masked]>
To: "Juergen Schoenwaelder" <[email-masked]>, "Network Management Research Group" <[email-masked]>
Sender: [email-masked]

Hi,

I didn't plan to attend LANOMS, and so far have no plans for DSOM, and I
don't know if I can get sponsorship to do either of these.

Next to IETF is always better for me. Let me know if this is a real
possibility; I've already booked my flights and hotel and didn't plan on
an NMRG meeting.

dbh

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:[email-masked]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 9:26 AM
> To: Network Management Research Group
> Subject: [nmrg] future meetings
> 
> 
> 
> We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal Gaspary <[email-masked]> to
> hold a meeting next to LANOMS 2003 (early September) in Iguassu Falls.
> I would like to collect feedback from you, especially:
> 
> - what specific topics do you suggest to work on
> 
> - whether you will be able to travel to such a meeting in Brazil
> 
> Please drop me a note so that I can collect feedback to see whether
> such a meeting is realistic. Other proposed meetings in Europe are:
> 
> - next to the IETF meeting in Vienna in July
> 
> - next to the DSOM workshop in October (perhaps here in Bremen)
> 
> Please let me know what you think.
> 
> /js
> 
> -- 
> Juergen Schoenwaelder		International University Bremen
> Phone: +49 421 200 3587		P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 
> Bremen, Germany
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Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 22:57:11 +0900
From: "Prof. J. Won-Ki Hong" <[email-masked]>
To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email-masked]>
Cc: Network Management Research Group <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [nmrg] future meetings
Sender: [email-masked]

Another possibility is to have a meeting next to APNOMS 2003 
(www.apnoms.org/2003) which will be held in Fukuoka, Japan, Oct. 1-3, 2003.

Cheers!

James

On Wed, May 07, 2003 at 03:25:48PM +0200, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> 
> We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal Gaspary <[email-masked]> to
> hold a meeting next to LANOMS 2003 (early September) in Iguassu Falls.
> I would like to collect feedback from you, especially:
> 
> - what specific topics do you suggest to work on
> 
> - whether you will be able to travel to such a meeting in Brazil
> 
> Please drop me a note so that I can collect feedback to see whether
> such a meeting is realistic. Other proposed meetings in Europe are:
> 
> - next to the IETF meeting in Vienna in July
> 
> - next to the DSOM workshop in October (perhaps here in Bremen)
> 
> Please let me know what you think.
> 
> /js
> 
> -- 
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Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 15:25:48 +0200
From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email-masked]>
To: Network Management Research Group <[email-masked]>
Subject: [nmrg] future meetings
Sender: [email-masked]

We have an offer from Luciano Paschoal Gaspary <[email-masked]> to
hold a meeting next to LANOMS 2003 (early September) in Iguassu Falls.
I would like to collect feedback from you, especially:

- what specific topics do you suggest to work on

- whether you will be able to travel to such a meeting in Brazil

Please drop me a note so that I can collect feedback to see whether
such a meeting is realistic. Other proposed meetings in Europe are:

- next to the IETF meeting in Vienna in July

- next to the DSOM workshop in October (perhaps here in Bremen)

Please let me know what you think.

/js

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Phone: +49 421 200 3587		P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany
Fax:   +49 421 200 3103		<http://www.iu-bremen.de/>