Subject: Re: [nmrg] Next IRTF-NMRG meeting
From: Aiko Pras <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 17:50:05 +0200
List-Id: Network Management Research Group <nmrg.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de>

Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:33:17AM +0200, Aiko Pras wrote:
> 
>>> 0. Administrivia (minute takers, agenda bashing, ...)		[JS]
>>> 1. Introduction and Motivation (15 min)
>>> 2. Tools (20 min)						[JS]
>>> 3. Initial Results (30 min)					[AP]
>>> 4. Discussion (50 min)
>>> 5. Wrapup (5 min)
>>>
>>> Aiko, do you want to do the introduction and motivation as well? 
>> Sure!
> 
> Great.
> 
> However, since I am going to be involved in some of the presentations,
> I think it would be good to have someone else chair or co-chair the
> meeting to keep us on time and so on. Any volunteers out there?

Same holds for me. If there are no other volunteers, I can co-chair and 
remind you that time is running out. ;-)

Aiko

Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 12:30:28 +0200
From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email-masked]>
To: Aiko Pras <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [nmrg] Next IRTF-NMRG meeting
Mail-Followup-To: Aiko Pras <[email-masked]>, "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:33:17AM +0200, Aiko Pras wrote:

> >0. Administrivia (minute takers, agenda bashing, ...)		[JS]
> >1. Introduction and Motivation (15 min)
> >2. Tools (20 min)						[JS]
> >3. Initial Results (30 min)					[AP]
> >4. Discussion (50 min)
> >5. Wrapup (5 min)
> >
> >Aiko, do you want to do the introduction and motivation as well? 
> Sure!

Great.

However, since I am going to be involved in some of the presentations,
I think it would be good to have someone else chair or co-chair the
meeting to keep us on time and so on. Any volunteers out there?

/js

-- 
Juergen Schoenwaelder		    International University Bremen
<http://www.eecs.iu-bremen.de/>	    P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany

Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 11:33:17 +0200
From: Aiko Pras <[email-masked]>
To: Aiko Pras <[email-masked]>, "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [nmrg] Next IRTF-NMRG meeting
Cc: 

Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 10:18:37AM +0200, Aiko Pras wrote:
> To be precise: I requested a meeting slot via the IETF scheduling
> system so the meeting will be _during_ the 66th IETF in Montreal.
Thanks! This clarifies

> 0. Administrivia (minute takers, agenda bashing, ...)		[JS]
> 1. Introduction and Motivation (15 min)
> 2. Tools (20 min)						[JS]
> 3. Initial Results (30 min)					[AP]
> 4. Discussion (50 min)
> 5. Wrapup (5 min)
> 
> Aiko, do you want to do the introduction and motivation as well? 
Sure!
Aiko

Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 10:33:46 +0200
From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email-masked]>
To: Aiko Pras <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [nmrg] Next IRTF-NMRG meeting
Mail-Followup-To: Aiko Pras <[email-masked]>, "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 10:18:37AM +0200, Aiko Pras wrote:
 
> From previous discussions I understood that the next IRTF-NMRG meeting 
> will be held before / after the 66th IETF meeting (Montreal, July 9-14 
> 2006). The exact day(s) for the NMRG meeting should still be determined, 
> and depends on the day / time we get an IETF slot.

To be precise: I requested a meeting slot via the IETF scheduling
system so the meeting will be _during_ the 66th IETF in Montreal.
 
> I believe it would be good to agree on a kind of agenda for the NMRG 
> meeting. The topic / one of the topics will be SNMP trace analysis. It 
> would be good if we could have some speakers to introduce that. Since 
> Juergen has developed several tools and we already have collected a 
> number of traces, Juergen and I could do that. It would be nice if other 
> people have some thoughts on this topic too.

Here is a first draft agenda (assumign a two hour slot):

0. Administrivia (minute takers, agenda bashing, ...)		[JS]
1. Introduction and Motivation (15 min)
2. Tools (20 min)						[JS]
3. Initial Results (30 min)					[AP]
4. Discussion (50 min)
5. Wrapup (5 min)

Aiko, do you want to do the introduction and motivation as well? Are
there other folks who want to have time allocated?

/js

-- 
Juergen Schoenwaelder		    International University Bremen
<http://www.eecs.iu-bremen.de/>	    P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany

Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 10:18:37 +0200
From: Aiko Pras <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [nmrg] Next IRTF-NMRG meeting

Hi Juergen

 From previous discussions I understood that the next IRTF-NMRG meeting 
will be held before / after the 66th IETF meeting (Montreal, July 9-14 
2006). The exact day(s) for the NMRG meeting should still be determined, 
and depends on the day / time we get an IETF slot.

I believe it would be good to agree on a kind of agenda for the NMRG 
meeting. The topic / one of the topics will be SNMP trace analysis. It 
would be good if we could have some speakers to introduce that. Since 
Juergen has developed several tools and we already have collected a 
number of traces, Juergen and I could do that. It would be nice if other 
people have some thoughts on this topic too.

With this email I wanted to ask Juergen if he could put some information 
on the NMRG webpage. As usual, however, Juergen is faster than light: I 
saw he has already done so a few minutes ago!

Great!

Aiko

Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 23:18:29 +0200
From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email-masked]>
To: "Alexander Clemm (alex)" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [nmrg] Re: please post <draft-schoenw-nrmg-snmp-measure-01.txt>
Mail-Followup-To: "Alexander Clemm (alex)" <[email-masked]>, "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Cc: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 12:48:55PM -0700, Alexander Clemm (alex) wrote:
>  
> Are there any other groups / bofs / ... which we should put on the
> conflict lists?
> 
> /js
> 
> Possibly syslog 

Added.

/js

-- 
Juergen Schoenwaelder		    International University Bremen
<http://www.eecs.iu-bremen.de/>	    P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany

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Subject: RE: [nmrg] Re: please post <draft-schoenw-nrmg-snmp-measure-01.txt>
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:48:55 -0700
From: "Alexander Clemm \(alex\)" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>, "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]

Are there any other groups / bofs / ... which we should put on the
conflict lists?

/js

Possibly syslog 

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Subject: RE: [nmrg] Re: please post <draft-schoenw-nrmg-snmp-measure-01.txt>
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 14:36:35 +0300
From: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]

You probably need to use the same procedure as for requesting a BOF -
i.e. send mail to [email-masked]. 

As David said, please add opsarea to the list of conflicts to avoid
(priority one). 

Dan

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:[email-masked]] 
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:02 PM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [nmrg] Re: please post 
> <draft-schoenw-nrmg-snmp-measure-01.txt>
> 
> On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 02:32:16PM +0300, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> > Juergen,
> > 
> > Where are you with the scheduling of the NMRG meeting? I am 
> trying to 
> > figure out how the next IETF week will look like.
> 
> It seems the online system is not yet working for the NMRG 
> research group. What I plan to request is something along the 
> following lines:
> 
> ---
> 
> NMRG meeting
> 
> time:
> 
> - 2 or 2.5 hours
> 
> attendees:
> 
> - 20-50
> 
> avoid conflicts (priority one):
> 
> - netconf, isms
> 
> avoid conflicts (priority two):
> 
> - adslmib, capwap, disman, hubmib, rmonmib, radext
> 
> special requests:
> 
> Can't use any Friday slots due to a conflict with NetConf 
> which also runs an interim Friday-Saturday. Would prefer an 
> evening slot which allows some flexibility with time. The 
> number of attendees is difficult to predict, may be anything 
> between 20 and 50.
> 
> ---
> 
> Are there any other groups / bofs / ... which we should put 
> on the conflict lists?
> 
> /js
> 
> -- 
> Juergen Schoenwaelder		    International University Bremen
> <http://www.eecs.iu-bremen.de/>	    P.O. Box 750 561, 
> 28725 Bremen, Germany
> 

From: "David B Harrington" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>, "'Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [nmrg] Re: please post <draft-schoenw-nrmg-snmp-measure-01.txt>
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 07:00:49 -0400
Importance: Normal
Cc: [email-masked]

I think Dan may be planning to have an OPS open area meeting you would
want to avoid.

dbh

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked] 
> [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Juergen 
> Schoenwaelder
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:02 AM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [nmrg] Re: please post 
> <draft-schoenw-nrmg-snmp-measure-01.txt>
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 02:32:16PM +0300, Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
wrote:
> > Juergen,
> > 
> > Where are you with the scheduling of the NMRG meeting? I am 
> trying to
> > figure out how the next IETF week will look like. 
> 
> It seems the online system is not yet working for the NMRG research
> group. What I plan to request is something along the following
lines:
> 
> ---
> 
> NMRG meeting
> 
> time:
> 
> - 2 or 2.5 hours
> 
> attendees:
> 
> - 20-50
> 
> avoid conflicts (priority one):
> 
> - netconf, isms
> 
> avoid conflicts (priority two):
> 
> - adslmib, capwap, disman, hubmib, rmonmib, radext
> 
> special requests:
> 
> Can't use any Friday slots due to a conflict with NetConf which also
> runs an interim Friday-Saturday. Would prefer an evening slot which
> allows some flexibility with time. The number of attendees is
> difficult to predict, may be anything between 20 and 50.
> 
> ---
> 
> Are there any other groups / bofs / ... which we should put on the
> conflict lists?
> 
> /js
> 
> -- 
> Juergen Schoenwaelder		    International University Bremen
> <http://www.eecs.iu-bremen.de/>	    P.O. Box 750 561, 
> 28725 Bremen, Germany
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Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 12:02:23 +0200
From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email-masked]>
To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [nmrg] Re: please post <draft-schoenw-nrmg-snmp-measure-01.txt>
Mail-Followup-To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 02:32:16PM +0300, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> Juergen,
> 
> Where are you with the scheduling of the NMRG meeting? I am trying to
> figure out how the next IETF week will look like. 

It seems the online system is not yet working for the NMRG research
group. What I plan to request is something along the following lines:

---

NMRG meeting

time:

- 2 or 2.5 hours

attendees:

- 20-50

avoid conflicts (priority one):

- netconf, isms

avoid conflicts (priority two):

- adslmib, capwap, disman, hubmib, rmonmib, radext

special requests:

Can't use any Friday slots due to a conflict with NetConf which also
runs an interim Friday-Saturday. Would prefer an evening slot which
allows some flexibility with time. The number of attendees is
difficult to predict, may be anything between 20 and 50.

---

Are there any other groups / bofs / ... which we should put on the
conflict lists?

/js

-- 
Juergen Schoenwaelder		    International University Bremen
<http://www.eecs.iu-bremen.de/>	    P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany

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Subject: RE: [nmrg] Re: please post <draft-schoenw-nrmg-snmp-measure-01.txt>
Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 14:32:16 +0300
From: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>
Cc: 

Juergen,

Where are you with the scheduling of the NMRG meeting? I am trying to
figure out how the next IETF week will look like. 

Dan

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked] 
> [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Juergen 
> Schoenwaelder
> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:54 PM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: [nmrg] Re: please post 
> <draft-schoenw-nrmg-snmp-measure-01.txt>
> 
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 05:36:10PM +0100, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> 
> > 
> >                        SNMP Traffic Measurements
> >                  draft-schoenw-nrmg-snmp-measure-01.txt
> 
> [...] 
>  
> > Abstract
> > 
> >    The Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) is widely 
> deployed to
> >    monitor, control and configure network elements.  Even though the
> >    SNMP technology is well documented, it remains 
> relatively unclear how
> >    SNMP is used in practice and what typical SNMP usage 
> patterns are.
> >    This document proposes to carry out large scale SNMP traffic
> >    measurements in order to develop a better understanding 
> how SNMP is
> >    used in real world production networks.  It describes 
> the motivation,
> >    the measurement approach, and the tools and data formats 
> needed to
> >    carry out such a study.
> 
> I have posted an updated ID for the SNMP traffic measurements 
> we are working on. We have made some progress on the tool 
> chain and we are collecting the first traces. Note that there 
> is a now a European project called EMANICS 
> <http://www.emanics.org/> which will help us to collect more 
> traces and to work on the analysis tools as a joint effort 
> with other interested parties.
> 
> I believe that this work is highly relevant for the NMRG and 
> I hereby propose to turn this Internet-Draft which is still 
> an individual submission into an NMRG sponsored 
> Internet-Draft. Please let me know what you think about this 
> and especially if you have concerns about doing so.
> 
> I am currently considering to organize an NMRG meeting next 
> to the Summer IETF (July 9-14) in Montreal in order to 
> discuss this activity with IETF folks. We expect to have 
> first results available by that time. The meeting duration 
> will depend on the material we have by the scheduling time, 
> either just a standard two hour time slot or we could opt for 
> more time on Friday or Sunday. Again, I like to have feedback 
> on the general idea to discuss this at the next IETF in 
> Montreal (although it might seem a bit early for some of you 
> to already plan the next IETF while the current one just started ;-).
> 
> /js
> 
> -- 
> Juergen Schoenwaelder		    International University Bremen
> <http://www.eecs.iu-bremen.de/>	    P.O. Box 750 561, 
> 28725 Bremen, Germany
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