From lars.eggert@nokia.com Tue Mar 1 01:30:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nsis@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: nsis@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94613A6AB7 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 01:30:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.228 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.228 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.371, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WLqPHN1JYn2n for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 01:30:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-da01.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [147.243.128.24]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A9D3A69FA for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 01:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.fit.nokia.com (esdhcp030222.research.nokia.com [172.21.30.222]) by mgw-da01.nokia.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id p219VsBC005331 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 1 Mar 2011 11:31:55 +0200 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at fit.nokia.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-689642928; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: Lars Eggert In-Reply-To: <6BF8199B-67A8-4EA7-9E98-12CCDF8D4EA8@nokia.com> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 11:31:46 +0200 Message-Id: <48684925-1B2E-415F-94E1-1C3F763D130D@nokia.com> References: <6BF8199B-67A8-4EA7-9E98-12CCDF8D4EA8@nokia.com> To: nsis X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (mail.fit.nokia.com); Tue, 01 Mar 2011 11:31:51 +0200 (EET) X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: Re: [NSIS] WG update X-BeenThere: nsis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Next Steps in Signaling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 09:30:55 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-689642928 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 2011-2-17, at 15:36, Lars Eggert wrote: > The RFC Editor is waiting for three of the four authors of = draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel to respond to their AUTH48 questions. FYI, the RFC Editor is still waiting. 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-0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id D9F1BE0744; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:50:29 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20110315235029.D9F1BE0744@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Cc: nsis@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [NSIS] RFC 5979 on NSIS Operation over IP Tunnels X-BeenThere: nsis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Next Steps in Signaling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:49:04 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5979 Title: NSIS Operation over IP Tunnels Author: C. Shen, H. Schulzrinne, S. Lee, J. Bang Status: Experimental Stream: IETF Date: March 2011 Mailbox: charles@cs.columbia.edu, hgs@cs.columbia.edu, sung1.lee@samsung.com, jh0278.bang@samsung.com Pages: 27 Characters: 69850 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-13.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5979.txt NSIS Quality of Service (QoS) signaling enables applications to perform QoS reservation along a data flow path. When the data flow path contains IP tunnel segments, NSIS QoS signaling has no effect within those tunnel segments. Therefore, the resulting tunnel segments could become the weakest QoS link and invalidate the QoS efforts in the rest of the end-to-end path. The problem with NSIS signaling within the tunnel is caused by the tunnel encapsulation that masks packets' original IP header fields. Those original IP header fields are needed to intercept NSIS signaling messages and classify QoS data packets. This document defines a solution to this problem by mapping end-to-end QoS session requests to corresponding QoS sessions in the tunnel, thus extending the end-to-end QoS signaling into the IP tunnel segments. This document defines an Experimental Protocol for the Internet community. This document is a product of the Next Steps in Signaling Working Group of the IETF. EXPERIMENTAL: This memo defines an Experimental Protocol for the Internet community. It does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Discussion and suggestions for improvement are requested. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Tue Mar 15 16:49:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nsis@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: nsis@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D58F3A6F18; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:49:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.418 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.418 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.182, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xu-CGofuTqwN; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1::2f]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B486C3A6F0E; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id A99A1E0757; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:50:40 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20110315235040.A99A1E0757@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Cc: nsis@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [NSIS] RFC 5980 on NSIS Protocol Operation in Mobile Environments X-BeenThere: nsis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Next Steps in Signaling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:49:15 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5980 Title: NSIS Protocol Operation in Mobile Environments Author: T. Sanda, Ed., X. Fu, S. Jeong, J. Manner, H. Tschofenig Status: Informational Stream: IETF Date: March 2011 Mailbox: sanda.takako@jp.panasonic.com, fu@cs.uni-goettingen.de, shjeong@hufs.ac.kr, jukka.manner@tkk.fi, Hannes.Tschofenig@nsn.com Pages: 32 Characters: 77323 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-nsis-applicability-mobility-signaling-20.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5980.txt Mobility of an IP-based node affects routing paths, and as a result, can have a significant effect on the protocol operation and state management. This document discusses the effects mobility can cause to the Next Steps in Signaling (NSIS) protocol suite, and shows how the NSIS protocols operate in different scenarios with mobility management protocols. This document is not an Internet Standards Track specification; it is published for informational purposes. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From charles.newyork@gmail.com Tue Mar 15 18:03:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nsis@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: nsis@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB433A6B4F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:03:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K0IyynP4YoOX for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f172.google.com (mail-iw0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F261B3A69DA for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iwl42 with SMTP id 42so1381169iwl.31 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:05:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=p6YoQdr/3WXJcl7AawE1nOA6RuE5PO1G8TNbnCvlzh0=; b=mhOx4MAENTnqMOPtm7wfSSI2QmBBVHNp3VJbifq02JFyEX1F0+G70FfebRW51m3XfW CvAVXpbjJww7g5L25YdVm03hcwHptRMCAbWtlEfgOM8GyyHbr764Rx3rs/qghtXxqCcw JN7V/OQbHQ72cesfH+qBajHfudQJntYyHVeVQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=SL51jsrQYbVOFMiXYcGdUDqEUjLWN2nXrjgoVKhgJ3OdlcMvXXkOTi11ij6ybuXevq ojGfgijNI2dnK1DfOzQLOJHKvJxV9iGGaTb+8V77v/r27lYXX1Jn1K6W4S5MFEY2P/Md 0OCs8EJQiddHxbdfjJ2Qp0ZqE3j4CcCSxAuJ4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.132.198 with SMTP id e6mr61323ict.328.1300237509469; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Sender: charles.newyork@gmail.com Received: by 10.42.226.7 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:05:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110315235029.D9F1BE0744@rfc-editor.org> References: <20110315235029.D9F1BE0744@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:05:09 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2uWAdti6yWwhoDmWmiq_BcDcDio Message-ID: From: Charles Shen To: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, nsis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [NSIS] RFC 5979 on NSIS Operation over IP Tunnels X-BeenThere: nsis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Next Steps in Signaling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:03:45 -0000 Sincere thanks to everyone !! Charles On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:50 PM, wrote: > > A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. > > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0RFC 5979 > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Title: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0NSIS Operation over= IP Tunnels > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Author: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 C. Shen, H. Schulzrinne, > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0S. L= ee, J. Bang > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Status: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Experimental > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Stream: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 IETF > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Date: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 March 2011 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Mailbox: =C2=A0 =C2=A0charles@cs.columbia.edu, > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0hgs@= cs.columbia.edu, > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0sung= 1.lee@samsung.com, > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0jh02= 78.bang@samsung.com > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pages: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A027 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Characters: 69850 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: =C2=A0 None > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I-D Tag: =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-1= 3.txt > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0URL: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://www.rfc= -editor.org/rfc/rfc5979.txt > > NSIS Quality of Service (QoS) signaling enables applications to > perform QoS reservation along a data flow path. =C2=A0When the data flow > path contains IP tunnel segments, NSIS QoS signaling has no effect > within those tunnel segments. =C2=A0Therefore, the resulting tunnel > segments could become the weakest QoS link and invalidate the QoS > efforts in the rest of the end-to-end path. =C2=A0The problem with NSIS > signaling within the tunnel is caused by the tunnel encapsulation > that masks packets' original IP header fields. =C2=A0Those original IP > header fields are needed to intercept NSIS signaling messages and > classify QoS data packets. =C2=A0This document defines a solution to this > problem by mapping end-to-end QoS session requests to corresponding > QoS sessions in the tunnel, thus extending the end-to-end QoS > signaling into the IP tunnel segments. =C2=A0This document defines an > Experimental Protocol for the Internet community. > > This document is a product of the Next Steps in Signaling Working Group o= f the IETF. > > > EXPERIMENTAL: This memo defines an Experimental Protocol for the > Internet community. =C2=A0It does not specify an Internet standard of any > kind. Discussion and suggestions for improvement are requested. > Distribution of this memo is unlimited. > > This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. > To subscribe or unsubscribe, see > =C2=A0http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce > =C2=A0http://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-dist > > For searching the RFC series, see http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfcsearch.htm= l. > For downloading RFCs, see http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc.html. > > Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the > author of the RFC in question, or to rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org. =C2=A0Unl= ess > specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for > unlimited distribution. > > > The RFC Editor Team > Association Management Solutions, LLC > > > _______________________________________________ > nsis mailing list > nsis@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nsis > From lars.eggert@nokia.com Wed Mar 16 01:44:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nsis@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: nsis@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7312C3A68A7 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:44:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.308 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.308 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.291, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u9IgQWJinZdZ for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgw-da01.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [147.243.128.24]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C1B3A6893 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.fit.nokia.com (esdhcp030222.research.nokia.com [172.21.30.222]) by mgw-da01.nokia.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id p2G8jvG5009470 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:45:59 +0200 From: Lars Eggert X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at fit.nokia.com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-26--164591780; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:45:55 +0200 Message-Id: To: nsis Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (mail.fit.nokia.com); Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:45:55 +0200 (EET) X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: [NSIS] thank you all! X-BeenThere: nsis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Next Steps in Signaling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 08:44:35 -0000 --Apple-Mail-26--164591780 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, with the publication of RFC5979 and RFC5980, the NSIS working group has = successfully completed its chartered work. Congratulations! I'd sincerely like to thank all participants, editors and chairs for = their hard work over the years, especially in the last phase, where new = requirements from the IESG meant that a significant amount of edits = needed to be done in a synchronized way across almost the entire set of = documents. I will proceed to close the NSIS WG and this mailing list. Please use = the tsv-area@ietf.org list for any future discussion of NSIS. 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16 Mar 2011 02:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.cs.utwente.nl (janus.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.10.26]) by denhaag.ewi.utwente.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id p2G93xLX024985; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:03:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from 84.82.109.231 (auth. user karagian@imap1.ewi.utwente.nl) by webmail.cs.utwente.nl with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:04:00 +0000 To: "Lars Eggert" , "nsis" Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:04:00 +0000 X-Mailer: IlohaMail/0.8.13 (On: webmail.cs.utwente.nl) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Georgios Karagiannis" Bounce-To: "Georgios Karagiannis" Errors-To: "Georgios Karagiannis" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 130.89.10.11 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0rc3 (denhaag.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.10.11]); Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:04:08 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: [NSIS] thank you all! X-BeenThere: nsis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Next Steps in Signaling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:02:45 -0000 Hi Lars Thank you also very much for the good and hard work that you had to do as transport area director in the context of the NSIS WG! Best regards, Georgios On 3/16/2011, "Lars Eggert" wrote: >Hi, > >with the publication of RFC5979 and RFC5980, the NSIS working group has succ= essfully completed its chartered work. Congratulations! > >I'd sincerely like to thank all participants, editors and chairs for their h= ard work over the years, especially in the last phase, where new requirements= from the IESG meant that a significant amount of edits needed to be done in = a synchronized way across almost the entire set of documents. > >I will proceed to close the NSIS WG and this mailing list. Please use the ts= v-area@ietf.org list for any future discussion of NSIS. > >Thanks again, >Lars From jukka.manner@tkk.fi Wed Mar 16 06:20:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nsis@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: nsis@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B703A698D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 06:20:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rX0b7fWcbNvC for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 06:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.netlab.hut.fi (luuri.netlab.hut.fi [130.233.154.177]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4703A693D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 06:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.netlab.hut.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88031E144 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:21:26 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at luuri.netlab.hut.fi Received: from smtp.netlab.hut.fi ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (luuri.netlab.hut.fi [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id JHZTWY0r2cNR for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:21:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from [80.186.87.136] (80-186-87-136.elisa-mobile.fi [80.186.87.136]) by smtp.netlab.hut.fi (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B8E41E139 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:21:22 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4D80B951.9040308@tkk.fi> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:21:21 +0200 From: Jukka Manner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9pre) Gecko/20100818 Lanikai/3.1.3pre MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nsis@ietf.org References: <375_1300265171_ZZ0LI500DNS70ZRX.00_13645_1300265171_4D8078D2_13645_10860_8_F77C3B0C-85E1-41F3-854A-EF28157B7ECB@nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <375_1300265171_ZZ0LI500DNS70ZRX.00_13645_1300265171_4D8078D2_13645_10860_8_F77C3B0C-85E1-41F3-854A-EF28157B7ECB@nokia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [NSIS] thank you all! X-BeenThere: nsis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Next Steps in Signaling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 13:20:02 -0000 A special thanks to all document authors, editors and reviewers, who spent a huge amount of time to make the RFCs become reality. We produced a good set of documents and created many good concepts and ideas towards a unifying signaling platform. I hope we will see some deployment, in one form or another, in the coming years. Research projects have embraced our work, just need to get the industry interested. regards, Jukka On 03/16/2011 10:45 AM, Lars Eggert wrote: > Hi, > > with the publication of RFC5979 and RFC5980, the NSIS working group has successfully completed its chartered work. Congratulations! > > I'd sincerely like to thank all participants, editors and chairs for their hard work over the years, especially in the last phase, where new requirements from the IESG meant that a significant amount of edits needed to be done in a synchronized way across almost the entire set of documents. > > I will proceed to close the NSIS WG and this mailing list. Please use the tsv-area@ietf.org list for any future discussion of NSIS. > > Thanks again, > Lars > > > > _______________________________________________ > nsis mailing list > nsis@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nsis From jmpolk@cisco.com Wed Mar 16 08:13:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nsis@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: nsis@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7874F3A69AB for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 08:13:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.045, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ecrmaYc-JjUp for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 08:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF2B3A6911 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 08:13:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=jmpolk@cisco.com; l=1002; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1300288474; x=1301498074; h=message-id:date:to:from:subject:in-reply-to:references: mime-version; bh=Zf5nIFnNyVYFTyJL0N9zQu1PdxkBB8VR08VhpO+acsc=; b=IChFqKdAhHB+huuMNpWH8c0ekZ96KcpwIun4bF8WzkxzwUCpmrxbZIcf D24dzsTmeTyjDTC5GwCps7FsjRRyu+oW1e3Q+2b1v4y9EW7gvWHFOnqFh L7ypuI/qf6/QczbFEbidkafEJvpFZfKqTUKg8AkE5vgZfSMsV2TVhFAHG o=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAFtwgE2tJV2Y/2dsb2JhbACmDXekWZxVhWMEhS8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,194,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="667722083" Received: from rcdn-core-1.cisco.com ([173.37.93.152]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2011 15:14:33 +0000 Received: from jmpolk-wxp01.cisco.com (rcdn-jmpolk-8711.cisco.com [10.99.80.18]) by rcdn-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p2GFEXCu014517; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:14:33 GMT Message-Id: <201103161514.p2GFEXCu014517@rcdn-core-1.cisco.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:14:32 -0500 To: Lars Eggert , nsis From: "James M. Polk" In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: [NSIS] thank you all! X-BeenThere: nsis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Next Steps in Signaling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:13:08 -0000 At 03:45 AM 3/16/2011, Lars Eggert wrote: >Hi, > >with the publication of RFC5979 and RFC5980, the NSIS working group >has successfully completed its chartered work. Congratulations! > >I'd sincerely like to thank all participants, editors and chairs for >their hard work over the years, especially in the last phase, where >new requirements from the IESG meant that a significant amount of >edits needed to be done in a synchronized way across almost the >entire set of documents. > >I will proceed to close the NSIS WG and this mailing list. Please >use the tsv-area@ietf.org list for any future discussion of NSIS. Lars TSVAREA? Don't you mean TSVWG? I'm not looking for more work (as TSVWG chair), but at least TSVWG can produce documents if there is anything about NSIS to be done in the future. James >Thanks again, >Lars > >_______________________________________________ >nsis mailing list >nsis@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nsis From wwwrun@core3.amsl.com Wed Mar 16 10:08:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nsis@ietf.org Delivered-To: nsis@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id C744E3A69D5; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:08:18 -0700 (PDT) From: IESG Secretary To: IETF Announcement list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20110316170818.C744E3A69D5@core3.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stiemerling@netlab.nec.de, jukka.manner@tkk.fi, nsis@ietf.org Subject: [NSIS] WG Action: Conclusion of Next Steps in Signaling (nsis) X-BeenThere: nsis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Next Steps in Signaling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:08:18 -0000 The Next Steps in Signaling (nsis) working group in the Transport Area has concluded. The IESG contact persons are Lars Eggert and David Harrington. The mailing list will be closed. From karagian@cs.utwente.nl Wed Mar 16 11:02:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nsis@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: nsis@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC02B3A6A1D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:02:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.892 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.892 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jw79P4uUMZrN for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from denhaag.ewi.utwente.nl (denhaag.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.10.11]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2764A3A69B8 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.cs.utwente.nl (janus.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.10.26]) by denhaag.ewi.utwente.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id p2GI442R010808; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:04:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from 84.82.109.231 (auth. user karagian@imap1.ewi.utwente.nl) by webmail.cs.utwente.nl with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 18:04:06 +0000 To: "Jukka Manner" , "stiemerling@netlab.nec.de" Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 18:04:06 +0000 X-Mailer: IlohaMail/0.8.13 (On: webmail.cs.utwente.nl) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4D80B951.9040308@tkk.fi> From: "Georgios Karagiannis" Bounce-To: "Georgios Karagiannis" Errors-To: "Georgios Karagiannis" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 130.89.10.11 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0rc3 (denhaag.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.10.11]); Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:04:13 +0100 (MET) Cc: "nsis@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [NSIS] thank you all! X-BeenThere: nsis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Next Steps in Signaling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 18:02:51 -0000 Hi Jukka, Hi Martin Thank you very much for the good work on managing the NSIS WG! Best regards, Georgios On 3/16/2011, "Jukka Manner" wrote: >A special thanks to all document authors, editors and reviewers, who >spent a huge amount of time to make the RFCs become reality. We produced >a good set of documents and created many good concepts and ideas towards >a unifying signaling platform. > >I hope we will see some deployment, in one form or another, in the >coming years. Research projects have embraced our work, just need to get >the industry interested. > >regards, >Jukka > >On 03/16/2011 10:45 AM, Lars Eggert wrote: >> Hi, >> >> with the publication of RFC5979 and RFC5980, the NSIS working group has su= ccessfully completed its chartered work. Congratulations! >> >> I'd sincerely like to thank all participants, editors and chairs for their= hard work over the years, especially in the last phase, where new requiremen= ts from the IESG meant that a significant amount of edits needed to be done i= n a synchronized way across almost the entire set of documents. >> >> I will proceed to close the NSIS WG and this mailing list. Please use the = tsv-area@ietf.org list for any future discussion of NSIS. >> >> Thanks again, >> Lars >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nsis mailing list >> nsis@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nsis >_______________________________________________ >nsis mailing list >nsis@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nsis