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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2022 21:26:47 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Open Specification for Pretty Good Privacy WG of the IETF. Title : OpenPGP Message Format Authors : Werner Koch Paul Wouters Filename : draft-ietf-openpgp-crypto-refresh-05.txt Pages : 151 Date : 2022-03-07 Abstract: This document specifies the message formats used in OpenPGP. OpenPGP provides encryption with public-key or symmetric cryptographic algorithms, digital signatures, compression and key management. This document is maintained in order to publish all necessary information needed to develop interoperable applications based on the OpenPGP format. It is not a step-by-step cookbook for writing an application. It describes only the format and methods needed to read, check, generate, and write conforming packets crossing any network. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 16:15:01 -0000 Hi there, I know this is a bit last minute, but as I said in the last DT meeting, it might be interesting to give a presentation on Key Transparency. I've now discussed with Aron Wussler (my colleague at Proton), and I can officially volunteer him for this presentation, if you're interested :) Key Transparency is designed to be an alternative (sort of) to the Web of Trust, but with fewer (or no) manual steps. Essentially, it's a sort of blockchain containing public keys, so that anyone (including the key owner) can verify that the correct keys are published and used by everyone. This work is inspired by CONIKS [0], and Google's previous work on Key Transparency [1]. However, we hope to be the first provider to deploy this very soon. Let me know whether you would be interested in a presentation about this and whether there's still time in the schedule for it. 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Thanks! -Mallory [0] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-knodel-e2ee-definition [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/113/materials/slides-113-openpgp-definition-for-end-to-end-encryption-00 [2] https://github.com/mallory/e2ee -- Mallory Knodel CTO, Center for Democracy and Technology gpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 65A3 B240 BCD9 B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C780 --000000000000a11af405dab980b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,

This morning I prese= nted the draft [0] to openpgp with these slides [1].

Big thanks for the feedback in the session, and an additional request fo= r reviews on this document. You can open issues and PRs [2], or you can rep= ly to the e2ee@ietf.org list with your= review.

Main focus for openpgp: What definitions = in openpgp drafts belong in here but aren't yet? Check our subsection o= n metadata, please.

Thanks!
-Mallory=

[2] https://github.com/mallory/e2ee


--
Mallory Knodel
CTO, Center for Democracy and Technologygpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 65A3 B240 BCD9 B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C780
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There are other possibilities, but changes were needed. I don't think the attack was designed by Lara, AIUI she dug it up. ] * WK: Better option is to only allow one mode of operation, which should be OCB. Rather add an optional GCM packet rather than deprecating the old one. ] * Daniel Kahn Gillmor (DKG): Less is better, but changing the mode to OCB only is a major change already. ] * WK: Users should have choice of algorithm but not mode. ] * Paul Wouters (PW): This is an argument for discussion before we make a PR. ] * Justus Winter (JW): check with Werner to define a more precise proposal and discuss this on the mailing list. That was someone else, I don't remember who though. 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Please send only plain text. Jabber-ID: wk@jabber.gnupg.org Mail-Followup-To: Justus Winter , Stephen Farrell , "openpgp\@ietf.org" Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 14:24:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87y20ub4tw.fsf@europ.lan> (Justus Winter's message of "Mon, 28 Mar 2022 15:10:35 +0200") Message-ID: <87y20tt086.fsf@wheatstone.g10code.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=Suspicious_device_ASPIC_Narcotics_brigand_Trafficking_Electric_FBI=D"; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [openpgp] draft minutes for ietf113 openpgp session X-BeenThere: openpgp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Ongoing discussion of OpenPGP issues." 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 12:46:54 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Werner Koch writes: > On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 15:10, Justus Winter said: > >> I don't think the attack was designed by Lara, AIUI she dug it up. > > She is the author of the the yet unpublished paper. But the notes talk about a different paper that describes how to downgrade a GCM cipher stream to CBC thereby stripping the authentication and making it malleable again: https://www.ndss-symposium.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/10_4_0.pdf Justus --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQFLBAEBCgA1FiEEJWpOVeSnLZetJGjniNx+MzhfeR0FAmJC/58XHGp1c3R1c0Bz ZXF1b2lhLXBncC5vcmcACgkQiNx+MzhfeR0bQAf/SWnYyBuskyylBPBPngzJGAW7 ESE9CFrVTWrkxgKMaP4x/e6V6iVaxw8k3IP+nvXPTvd7QI6zjenW9exBBxMsfFDu v/alonxgxOkKzpXK7l5MfFzHrEPvXLa6HlXq0ET+DY2Wi/BwEawMr1jKFA0IjOyB IbkCQxYkCWZwx7nkQ442hJu8sZLmfpbbK9nriTWJ171preszFawcwDBeRPER1l66 4ndhlX387gGPlPRk0WC25F71Xx7m8w1cSeKvJd2HtOG8BazCWeIdwj57XLPjJzZB TIH6lvgXxqVO1lRmZVqHXIOMcLNlTydeZAr7Zl88sOpJesmmeDXIy54wfWeaQA== =uNGC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--